For full-size and high resolution map please go to http://southfront.org/u-s-carrier-strike-groups-locations-map-sep-10-2015/
Saker Message:
For full-size and high resolution map please go to http://southfront.org/u-s-carrier-strike-groups-locations-map-sep-10-2015/
South Front Carrier strike group map: Better visuals. Good short explanation of components of a strike group.
This is mostly off topic but I need to say something. I just watched about a half hour of Obama’s talk to the troops live. He’s probably still talking. It was painful for me but I wanted to feel what a psychopathic liar looks like and sounds like. And he’s just the tip of the tip of an iceberg. The attitude of the troops who called in and those quoted from twitter is just sickening. This is a mental disease en masse. To get a little more on topic, I counted ten aircraft carriers and I understand Russia has one. One question that I heard was about 9/11. Again a disgusting experience of hypocrisy. I happen to see on my calendar that today is patriot’s day. What insane and complete disassociation from reality. I understand better the importance of this site. It’s a candle in the darkness. It has its own Achilles’ heel but it’s necessary to fight fire with fire. I’m surprised Saker can take the heat and not die from the obnoxious fumes. I appreciate the opportunity to do my own venting. I used to be a psychiatric nurse in the US vets administration. I never understood the depths of despair although I worked with Nam vets. This world is so sick it makes me sick. Mentally I can see the causes and cure which I describe at thelovegovernment.com. It helps but nothing can really alleviate the pain of living in this love forsaken world. “My sense of humanity has gone down the drain; behind every beautiful face is some kind of pain.” Dylan. It looked like Obama was trying to imitate Putin. What a farce. Obama descended into macabre self-confession and loathsome pandering to emotionality. When cut off from truth anything goes. I don’t feel so alone when I come here. It isn’t my ideal community but at least most folks here have an aura of reality in their thoughts. Sorry for the confessional tone. I like Putin and Lavrov because they have dignity unlike lost souls like Obama and the millions of obama-lites everywhere.
@ Dennis Leary,
Have you ever had a good look at the rifles carried by the armed forces during an inauguration?
No shooting from the hip there.
I saw a blind man once, along the river Gambia, in Africa. He did not see me, but I saw a beautiful person.
You need aircraft carriers if you want to take over the world — although they are easy enough to sink if war breaks out — but you don’t need them much if your military is defensive.
Yes, the US government, and many of the people because of that, are truly insane. Many not just neurotic and sociopathic, but psychopathic and out of touch with reality.
If you ever read Casteneda’s Don Juan books you’ll see somewhere in there a description of the Spanish conquest of Central America as a great boon to the sorcerers because they presented such a deadly challenge to them. (Good books, whether factual or not — just don’t take the earlier ones too seriously because they are put into a more sensible and coherent context in the later ones)
Ram Das wrote ‘Grist for the Mill’ — saying that whatever happens is a reason and way to work on yourself.
I don’t think this is completely true, but there is something in it: when you live in a loony bin you can see the traps people fall into and the ways they go crazy, and so look for that in yourself and root it out if there. It’s often easier to see it at first in others than yourself. In a way, humanity is a vehicle for the self-development of the sorcerer (self-actuated or enlightenment).
In Christian terms you can think of this as walking on the water (consciousness) without getting your feet wet, or being in the world but not of it. In Buddhism it can be said as non-attachment. Same basic concept is found in many places. The danger is in the land of the blind the one-eyed man does not become king, but is driven mad — and one needs to work on how to avoid that.
Thanks for the encouraging thoughts. I liked the part about working on myself.
“In Christian terms you can think of this as walking on the water (consciousness) without getting your feet wet, or being in the world but not of it. In Buddhism it can be said as non-attachment. Same basic concept is found in many places. The danger is in the land of the blind the one-eyed man does not become king, but is driven mad — and one needs to work on how to avoid that.”
Wise words, which I too thank you for.
Don Juan in his teachings to Castaneda, when explaining the concepts of the Tonal and the Nagual, described the Tonal as ” a guardian which has in fact become a guard”, a fitting metaphor for modern day “civilization”. We have created a construct which was meant to make life easier and more survivable/manageable for humanity but which through the actions of evil ones amongst us in positions of power has instead turned into a guard so to speak and of which we have all become prisoners and which we can no longer survive without.
We have all mostly become used to walking into our showers and turning on a tap to bring forth an immediate avalanche of hot water, or walking into our homes in the evening and flicking on a switch to bring forth light. We now take all these things for granted and no longer consider the price the planet and its peoples ultimately end up paying for our creature comforts.
How many people now have the ability to survive for any period of time outside the bounds of our construct, so called “civilization” ? Very few people I wager. Unfortunately I feel the time is rapidly approaching when this artificial construct is going to crumble due to a variety of factors including economic collapse, war, extreme weather phenomena and famine/droughts. How many will survive ?
Yes.
And there are more subtle levels of the brain and mind and the internal dialogue which Don Juan talks about, but so do Zen masters and others who teach meditation and mindfulness. Cognitive therapists also deal with this, and with ‘ideation’ and ‘magical thinking’, as do those who talk about sideways thinking, paradigm shift, confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance — and propaganda, of course. Salesmen, manipulators, and tyrants (and stage magicians) learn to use this to their advantage.
The brain likes stories, simple explanations, and familiar habits — ‘don’t wonder if that’s a tiger: just run away and survive’.
Dennis, I agree with your assessment of the Saker. I also get some brief relief when I click on the Saker. Take some small comfort that for this moment when we don’t feel so all alone. Keep the faith! Peace!
It’s about time America changes its constant war posture because War and economic progress don’t mix >> https://goo.gl/15VRor
Please make below clip to go viral, share it spread it all over the world.
Syrian Citizen Boldly Denounces Fake Refugees and Western Manipulation
Link does not go anywhere
@ PeaceMaker
Your link is a hotlink but neither can be clicked nor tells anything about the url.
Maybe I could find this in this entire page’s html-src and then publish it, let me see …
NO: Only the following is contained, without a link:
Please make below clip to go viral, share it spread it all over the world.
Syrian Citizen Boldly Denounces Fake Refugees and Western Manipulation
Reply
However – via google I found it:
Syrian Citizen Boldly Denounces Fake Refugees and Western Manipulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxrWmaeqOU
@ Martin from S.E.B.,
Thanks.
0 near Syria?
EUROPE IS BURNING Nigel Farage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvyhrrwjjCk
Another good question from Nigel Farage and hear what he says about the same problem in Australia in 2008:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW_oXEksqh8
These violent people are not refugees, I’m telling it since day 1, but mercenaries. If you realize, they follow the same pattern of comportment that those violents in the Maidan and Venezuela. This is because they have the same “teachers”. When you go seeking political asylum abroad, you have a more humble attitude. Here in Spain we have always had economic migrants and never behave like that. These come, clearly, to bang about in Europe, and look that they are organized. The so-called “refugee camps” in the Syrian-Turkish border, where they have been so far, and from where they were drawn to Syria, were enclosures closed to the press and humanitarian organizations. Redvoltaire, now some years ago, published at the time that to these camps were coming jihadists from all nurseries ( Lybia, Tunisia, Algeria, Sudan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia…..where they are called for jihad on attractive payment amounts by the Imám on duty and on the payroll) and where they were trained by specialists from the countries which began and supported the destruction of one of the three most prosperous secular countries from the Middle East/ Magreb that remained standing.
I have to say elsi that I am afraid I agree with your post. Who exactly is coming into Europe ? As rightly pointed out genuine asylum seekers are greatful for all they receive and are generally humble. And a majority of those refugees who were housed in the camps in Turkey, etc. had no love for president Assad, these so called “refugee” camps were hotbeds of Islamic jihadist activity directed against Assad.
These psychopaths have a fetish for gruesome videos. I reckon every male refugee should have his mobile phone inspected for any possible videos of beheadings, etc. they seem so enamoured of.
Elsi,
Cartalucc’is newest: 9/12/15 http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2015/09/social-engineering-101-how-to-make.html#more
The detail on how the refugee crisis was created, from Arab Spring to war to refugees: NED & other NGOs. Includes where they originated.
“Catastrophes that are meant to look “sudden” and “unexpected” as well as “unstoppable” but are in fact, allowed to unfold within an operational theater completely controlled by the US and NATO constitutes instead a conspiracy – pitting desperate and/or exploited refugees intentionally sent out of Turkey and into Europe, against a manipulated, fearful, and ill-informed Western public. ”
“the “refugee crisis” is emanating primarily from within NATO’s borders [Turkey], not from beyond them. The refugees are pawns, intentionally moved across the game board to illicit a predictable reaction from their hopelessly unskilled opponents – the public. While the social engineers are engaged in a game of three-dimensional chess, the Western public appears to be infantilely eating their checkers.”
OT
Rick Wolff’s monthly update is just out — can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99HYjoucAz4
Global Capitalism: September 2015 Monthly Update
Published on Sep 9, 2015
Global Capitalism: Monthly Economic Update
Richard D. Wolff
Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 7:30pm
Market Chaos and Capitalism’s Instability
Judson Memorial Church
Assembly Hall
239 Thompson Street at Washington Square, Manhattan
Co-sponsored by Democracy at Work, Left Forum, and Judson Memorial Church
These programs begin with 30 minutes of short updates on important economic events of the last month. Then Wolff analyzes several major economic issues. For this September 9, these will include:
1. China’s Economy and its Global Impacts
2. US Stock Market Instability: causes and consequences
3. Why workers’ pensions are under attack now in the US and how best to respond
…….
Professor Wolff’s Website: http://www.rdwolff.com
Professor Wolff’s Podcast: http://www.truth-out.org/economic-upd…
Permission to reprint Professor Wolff’s writing and videos is granted on an individual basis. Please contact profwolff@rdwolff.com to request permission. We reserve the right to refuse or rescind permission at any time.
Wow! I’m not even 1/2 hour in to his talk and I’m impressed: he’s on a tear this month, taking no prisoners. The first 1/4 hour or so he addresses the refugee issue with amazing clarity, as if with a samurai sword. Listen to at least that much of it.
I think maybe he is uncovering his light under the bushel basket a bit.
I also found on the youtube link sidebar another video of Wolff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqRHNR6lOw
Do You Actually Understand What ‘Socialism’ Is?
David Pakman Show
Published on Aug 6, 2015
–Economist Richard Wolff, Professor Emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, joins David to discuss the reality of socialism and Bernie Sanders’ position within the concept.
————–
duration is 11:24, and is half decent, even if he admits to Sanders being a socialist under some people’s definition. Wolff is not really much of a radical — just an ordinary Marxist economics professor.
@ blue,
Too bad one of the first things he asks for is money.
Especially in light of; “To interpret Jewish values as a commitment to a society with real equality, democracy, and human solidarity requires us to confront in capitalism a system of production that blocks the achievement of such a society. ” – Richard D. Wolf link to Jewish Currents.
I don’t see a problem. Saker might not like asking for money, but the reality is that to keep something going it’s needed.
The article linked is Wolff’s response to an article by Lawrence Bush, who is a Jew writing about Jewish things.
“In conclusion, the Jewish values movingly affirmed in Lawrence Bush’s article can and, I believe, must take us beyond a notion of social responsibility that merely requires capitalists to treat their workers and the workers’ communities better. Those values carry a moral imperative to demand the abolition of the capitalist mode of production.”
Again ZH at own risk (but Cassad wrote similar things not long ago: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2378220.html ) :
It Begins: Europe Flooded With Reports Of “ISIS Terrorists” Posing As Refugees
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-11/europe-flooded-reports-isis-terrorists-posing-refugees
The world’s largest submarine, the Dmitri Donskoy (TK-208), Nato-coded Typhoon, has set sail for the Mediterranean and is destined for the Syrian coast, DEBKAfile reports exclusively from its military and intelligence sources. Aboard the sub are 20 Bulava (NATO-code SS-N-30) intercontinental ballistic missiles with an estimated up to 200 nuclear warheads. Each missile, with a reported range of 10,000km, carries 6-10 MIRV nuclear warheads.
The Russian sub set sail from its northern base on Sept. 4, escorted by two anti-sub warfare ships. Their arrival at destination in 10 days time will top up the new Russian military deployment in Syria.
President Vladimir Putin’s introduction of a nuclear force opposite Syrian shores builds up what first looked like an operation to fortify Assad’s regime in Damascus into a military expedition capable of an air and sea confrontation with US forces in the Middle East.
US Secretary of State John Kerry suggested as much Saturday, Sept. 5, when he expressed concern over reports of Russia’s “increasing military build-up in Syria” in a phone call to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. The State Department reported: “The Secretary made clear that if such reports were accurate, these actions could further escalate the conflict, lead to greater loss of innocent life, increase refugee flows and risk confrontation with the anti-ISIL coalition operation in Syria.”
Kerry was referring to potential Russian interference with US-led coalition air strikes against the Islamic State in Syria.
DEBKAfile’s sources in Washington and Moscow report that the dispatch of a nuclear sub to Syrian waters is taken as a strong message that the Kremlin will not let the US impede its military intervention in the Syrian conflict and will go to extreme lengths to keep the way open for the flow of Russian troops to the war-torn country.
This situation has gone a long way beyond Obama administration intentions when US-Russian talks were initially held for US forces posted in Turkey and Iraq, together with the Russian troops arriving in Syria, to launch a combined effort against the Islamic State. Those talks came to naught.
http://www.debka.com/article/24873/Russian-submarine-with-20-ICBMs-and-200-nuclear-warheads-is-sailing-to-Syria
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150904/1026590302/russia-world-submarine-drills-white-sea.html
Sept. 4:
A source in the Russian Northern Fleet said on Friday that the Russian Akula class nuclear ballistic missile submarine Dmitry Donskoy has left its base in the city of Severodvinsk, entering the White Sea, where it will take part in anti-submarine war games, according to the website flot.com.
So seven days later it may be moving to where the Israel website says it is.
***maybe – maybe not *** mod
Naval Observer,
DebkaFile lies. Almost everything it says is a lie. It frequently makes up quotes by American officials. The following day the quoted official denies them, so it’s hard to see what’s the point.
DebkaFile is among the top 3 disinfo sources.
@ Naval Observer,
Q; DEBKAfile
R; DEBKAfile is one of the Apartheid State’s dis-info channels/sites.
Their good at producing one thing though;
udderutter rubbish.Yes, but what if it is true? It might explain why Obama said on Friday that the US will be having “long discussions” with Russia over Syria. A true determination by Putin not to let the criminals get away with their act any longer would have to have some punch behind it. They are so caught up in their narrative it may be that they believe it. And that would mean there is nobody behind the curtain, it really is an unholy mess, and Putin is having greatness thrust upon him. There have been moments like this before I think.
@ David George,
Q; And that would mean there is nobody behind the curtain, it really is an unholy mess, and Putin is having greatness thrust upon him.
R; The fact that a convoy, a long row of shiny Toyota pick-up trucks, was allowed to move freely from A to B, with all the WASWAS brass aboard, tells me there are most certainly hands moving behind the curtains.
Putin is about to chop them off, hence Obombi’s frantic hollering. The show is over, but someone forgot to tell the actors, or in Putin’s case, he did, but the entire stage just laughed at him.
Laughing is good, it is healthy [and I love to do it a lot myself], but there is a time and place when silence should be observed, not because it is golden, but to reflect on oneself. Therefore Putin will have the last and best laugh.
Otherwise the ‘Highway of Death‘- [link to youtube] would have had a sequel, “Dunes of Destruction.”
Alex ‘I got a Big Bull Horn Baby’ Jones, occasionally says things that are true too. It is what he leaves out or misdirects from, that becomes important. Debkapile is on par with that Dis-info agent; both are rubbish.
Not that I’m trying you to discourage to listen to or read them, au contraire, they do have their use, but as a source of trusted information, no, thanks.
***Daniel Rich, provide proof when slandering Alex Jones ***mod
Q; ***Daniel Rich, provide proof when slandering Alex Jones ***mod
R; You his lawyer?
Maybe I should have said that what is behind the curtain is an unholy mess. Expanding on the curtain theme, there is more than one curtain if each of the criminal regimes in the region is an independent actor, such as Turkey, Israel, Saudi, Qatar, etc.; then there is the US NSC curtain; then there may be a Wall Street curtain; and behind each of these curtains could be unholy messes, or maybe behind one curtain somebody is pulling a lever but it doesn’t work. But I should say something sticks in my mind, didn’t the Russians give a notice of some kind for the eastern Mediterranean? And weren’t they having exercises there? If I were Israel (and anybody on a US-led coalition base or ship) I would be very “concerned” right now. That’s enough of that I think, curtains for me for awhile.
@ David George,
How do you end a brawl?
All the players you’ve mentioned got away with what they’re doing, because they either got the US’ blessing or backing.
But the US’ heydays are over.
Yes, the Empire is still standing, and staggers onward, but s/he’s dying, because of the thousand little cuts s/he received over time.
The idiocy of wanting to be dominant, domineering and demanding, in a world where other powers are rapidly growing, is not shortsighted, it’s ridiculously stupid.
In a fight or battle, when you realize you’re losing, you have to act accordingly.
They say the solution to all this is as difficult as finding a needle in a haystack. My personal solution is basically simple; burn it down, and your job will be a lot easier.
On the other hand, if I’d know the future, I’d be a billionaire, sipping on a martini on a yacht in the Bermuda triangle, but I’m not.
My ‘predictions’ are nothing but a reflection of my gut feelings.
“On the other hand, if I’d know the future, I’d be a billionaire”
Not really.
Suppose you know some stock is going to double in a year — every good return. You break open your piggy bank with $2,500 in it, buy the stock, and in a year you’ve got $5,000 (then worth maybe $4,700 or so from inflation). Long way to go. If you had, amazingly, a piggy bank with $500,000 in it then you could be a billionaire in a year, but with that fat a piggy why would you care — what could you spend even half a billion on before you croaked?
You don’t become a billionaire by investing, but by stealing it or starting a war, while exploiting a whole bunch of people, and making them poorer, and you generally have to have quite a bit of money to start with to become really rich or you can’t coerce or bribe enough people, or otherwise have enough power to get a lot of money, and that usually takes several generations.
Becoming filthy rich is a different process than becoming simply comfortable. If you somehow knew of an investment that would pay 1,000 to 1, letting you become a billionaire with an initial investment of ‘only’ a $million, you couldn’t get in on it because you aren’t in the club.
blue on September 13, 2015 · at 3:52 pm UTC said:
“You don’t become a billionaire by investing, but by stealing it or starting a war, while exploiting a whole bunch of people, and making them poorer, and you generally have to have quite a bit of money to start with to become really rich or you can’t coerce or bribe enough people, or otherwise have enough power to get a lot of money, and that usually takes several generations.
Becoming filthy rich is a different process than becoming simply comfortable.”
Mostly agree – but not always, see my Bill Gates e.g. here /a-scream-of-total-disappointment-saker-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-144983.
So, while there may have been a little real innovation involved in one instance the end result is mostly the same.
Debka.com is useful for info about the IDF and cooperating allies. They reported recently that the rebels in the south east of Syria are under the command of the joint US Jordanian Saudi Israeli command, from the base in Jordan. They supply intelligence, supplies, battle plans.
And to get some insight into the militaristic Zionist mindset, they even think Netayahu isn’t though enough. But not useful if in concerns matter not related to those topics.
And Alex Jones supports Israel, and is supported by Jewish/Zio money and people in his organisation.
Alex Jones is married to a Jewish woman named Kelly Rebecca “Violet” Nichols, with whom he has three(3) Jewish children.
Alex Jones and his Jewish wife and children all qualify for Israeli citizenship under Israel’s “Law of Return”.
Alex Jones’ producer to whom he calls his “boss” is Jew Rob Jacobson. Alex once interviewed David Duke and thought Duke was going to bash blacks the whole episode and he no idea Duke only bashes Jews. Duke exposing Jews for over an hour on his show got Alex “Jew Wife” Jones upset and his Jew producer upset and so Jacobson even came on the air and argued with Duke and then lost. Then Jacobson first edited the 2 hour interview down to 17 minutes, and then later just removed it entirely. Alex now mentions David Duke from time to time with fear on his show calling him “the big bad wolf”. David Duke Debates Alex Jones (8-18-15)
Alex Jones is funded by at least thirty-four(34) Jewish sponsors and advertisers who financially support his radio show and websites.
Alex Jones’ flagship radio station, KLBJ AM, in Austin, Texas, is owned by Emmis Communications, a media conglomerate based in Indianapolis, Indiana. The founder, chairman, president, and CEO of Emmis Communications is the Zionist Jew Jeffrey Smulyan.
Alex Jones’ radio show is broadcast on Sirius XM Radio. The chairman of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Eddy Hartenstein. The CEO of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Mel Karmazin. The President of Sirius XM Radio is the Jew Scott Greenstein. Of the six(6) executive officers of Sirius XM Radio, five(5) are Jews.
Alex Jones is the client of a Jewish attorney named Elizabeth Morgan who is also the attorney for Holly Lev Bronfman, the sister of Edgar Bronfman, Jr. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and the Bronfman family, one of the wealthiest and most influential Jewish Zionist families in North America.
Alex Jones’ employee Molly Maroney, the managing editor of Infowars Magazine, is a former intern of STRATFOR, a private intelligence agency based in Austin, Texas, which has been linked to the CIA and Mossad. The founder and CEO of STRATFOR is the Zionist Jew George Friedman. Thus there are only two degrees of separation between Alex Jones and STRATFOR.’
source: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Alex_Jones#Alex_Jones.27_Jewish_Connections
Alex Jones: “Anti-Zionists are Mentally Ill, Weak Minded Idiots” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDTKBKGdbJ4
well, I can see that you’ve made an indepth study of Alex Jones…he must be doing something right.
Govern the Mente,
Merely being Jewish is not a crime. Being married to a Jew and employing Jewish people is not a crime nor a blot on one’s character. Your last criticism of Alex Jones
“Alex Jones: “Anti-Zionists are Mentally Ill, Weak Minded Idiots”
would be viable– except that the link you supplied is a dud.
I don’t like Alex Jones and I never listen to him, but to criticize someone merely for associating w Jews is illogical.
I agree with what you say.Except, in today’s World.With Zionists doing the things they are.Being totally in league with Zionist supporters,while you are a media personality is suspicious at best.If he had many friends and business associates in the MIC.And was supporting the MIC on his media show, wouldn’t people be rightly suspicious of him.It may not be anything wrong as you say.But still there is the saying “where there is smoke, there is fire”.So he should at least acknowledge his deep connections to Zionism when reporting on stories involving them.
Uncle Bob 1,
Of course you’re right that if Alex Jones has some connection to Zionism– financial or otherwise– it should be known. I’ve heard it said before but don’t know if there’s any documentation, report by an investigative jounalist, etc.
Of course if his coverage always avoids ascribing blame to Israel or Zionism that should be known as well. I don’t watch him so can have no opinion regarding that.
My objections to casting aspersions on mere Jewishness are several:
1. I think it lowers one’s own credibility. After all, there are millions of Jews in the world, but the oligarchical cabal that seeks to institute the NWO is quite a small group which has managed to buy many persons in power and those who have needed skills, whether knowing or unknowing.
2. It’s unjust to cast aspersions on someone merely because he’s Jewish. Those I knew in New York were doctors, lawyers, academics, small businessmen & students. They were all normal people, most very interested in ideas & politics. Jews were very active in Hollywood & the entertainment industry way back in the time that Hollywood was still innocent & made even idealistic films.
3. In our conversations on the web I assume we are trying to persuade others who are not yet awake — thru arguments and evidence. I can’t think of anything more apt to turn an interested person off than bashing millions of people merely for being born into Jewish families. I think it’s counterproductive to our aims to tar our own position w injustice.
Govern the Mente,
DEBKAfile said
“rebels in the south east of Syria are under the command of the joint US Jordanian Saudi Israeli command”
They actually ADMITTED they are under Western command? Amazing!
Guess they ARE good for something.
Slandering Alex? Are you serious?!!! I’d say that was going easy on Alex Jones.
even if Alex Jones married an Israeli woman…he still has contributed much to the alternative media…and people who dislike him for who he married..well, Glenn Greenwald has similar attributes, although not in marriage, but in employment..and his articles still contribute to educating the public as to the problems within the system…Just because they don’t go all the way, doesn’t take away from what they have done.
from what I understand, all Russia would have to do to seriously derail Regime change would be to supply some electronic counter-measures or something, probably already on contract since 2006. I am just speculating
I doubt it. The Dmitri Donskoy will serve better in the Arctic. The sub is an ultimate doomsday weapon, not an attack sub.
“The Israeli army’s co-ed Caracal battalion stationed along the Egyptian border are training to confront the rising threat of ISIS in the Sinai Peninsula”
https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/09/10/mixed-gender-idf-battalion-training-to-fight-isis/
Perhaps this is an opportunity for some counter-propaganda about Israel massing tanks and troops to invade Syria? Damascus is only 30 miles or so from the Golan Heights and Israel.
Sanctuary,
Could be. Also they want the Sinai for themselves.
Dr. Judy Wood is on rense.com radio tonight SEP 11 1ST hour only it shows, which is 10 PM ET Zone, & the entire 3-hour slot shows repeat once, which is 1 AM ET- 4 AM.
It will be of special note if she gets in something commentary on the similarities to the Tianjin port incident of Aug 12/2015, with very suspicious looking damage very unique looking not at all like scorch (burn) marks/damage at all.
pick your audio stream format here:
http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
Mike King has up a special tribute page he’s put together some not all of the clear warnings in media, cartoons, & personalities who knew & warned it was coming:
http://tomatobubble.com/id884.html
In late 2000, lead singer Liam Gallagher visited New York to promote the album. Part of an interview exchange:
Interviewer (Carson Daly): The cover of the album why the New York Skyline?
Gallagher: “Yeah I thought I’d pay you a bit of respect n that before they blow you up n that.”
Anonymous, Forgive me: I do not think that the exact technical means by which the towers were brought down is at all important. It is a distraction to the really important fact that a rogue element w/in the US govt probably w implementation aid of Israeli special forces designed the entire operation. They then protected it from disclosure by preventing an effective investigation.
Obviously this was done to create the pretext for destroying the middle east, and for destroying civil rights at home.
The part not widely understood is that important elements of an actual coup took place, and are still in force. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ7tVb5rskE Peter Dale Scott and Continuity of Govt.
Penelope, since when is the truth a distraction ?… meanwhile you are continually posting info that is half true or not true…hmmm
Ann, Really? Perhaps you should give examples, instead of just slandering me.
well, lets take the first part of the equation…
Judy Wood has been ostracized from the whole 9/11 community because she has a different take on the destruction of the TTT’s.
How is the whole project supposed to move forward if the truth is rejected ? She’s totally qualified and has done a huge amount of research, lost her job as professor of Mechanical Engineering and on and on.
So your casual comment of how irrelevant she is anyway, makes me truly wonder about your integrity Penelope.
And as far as half truths, for the past week or more you’ve been pushing the Russians in Syria meme even though Saker has dealt with the lack of evidence in two threads.
You pushed the envelope again and again as though you’re trying to distract from the truth rather than wanting to really know the truth.
so there girl.
and while I’m at it, here is a recent interview with Dr. Judy Wood on the absolute bizarre effects the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers on cars and the steel beams inside the towers etc.
https://youtu.be/Ojx23FOPmnQ
And again a music video with amazing lyrics, if you listen carefully
https://youtu.be/H2dI-yRkFXY
Ann,
Talk about half-truths! Since you are unable to understand my posts, just don’t read them, Ann.
Penelope, “the exact technical means by which the towers were brought down” is of crucial importance, in that it brings one to the understanding that it could not have been planes or fire that caused the destruction.
Clearly, the majority of Americans are still operating at the stage of “planes and/or fire”. Most still believe the official narrative. Once they realize they’ve been lied to, and they learn that a building can’t be prepared for controlled demolition in a day, or even a week, hopefully they’ll be asking who had to have known.
I haven’t had time to look at your YouTube link, yet, but I agree with you that a coup took place (in 1963, imo). I’m aware of COG, but rather than there being rogue elements, I think just about everyone of any significance in the US govt knows what’s going on. That makes them complicit.
Justine,
Of course it was not planes or fire which brought down the tower; that’s easily established. Likewise that it was some form of explosive demolition.
But to allow the 9-11 Truth movement to be fragmented, and indeed the whole discussion about 9-11 to devolve to a controversy over whether it was demoliotion method 1, 2 or 3 is a distraction from investigating & proving by whom & for what purposes.
You don’t have to agree w me.
Penelope, just watch the first link…If you would take the time, you would change sides…Judy Wood is a person that you should respect and admire. That you don’t makes me wonder about you frankly. Sorry for this, and you’re certainly not the only apparent truth seeker who doesn’t go along with Judy Wood…its like someone said the other night “My mind is made up”.
But you seem to be so well read on everything, I mean you have details that seems like they come onto your desk that day to give to the world…that you don’t even bother watching Judy Wood..hmm.
And I’m probably barking up a wrong tree, except for the fact that you don’t like Judy Wood.
First, she is a mechanical engineer — that’s virtually a laymen concerning energy and particle physics.
I know a mechanical engineer who thinks there was a crystal dome over the earth that stopped cosmic rays so that Methuselah could live so long. The guy is a nut job and pretty dumb in other areas too. There’s nothing special about mechanical engineering outside of it’s specialty, and doesn’t deal with such energy physics, or even TV repair. Would you expect a particle physicist to know how to build a house or design a bridge?
Energy weapons that will take down such buildings? I don’t think so — no evidence they exist at all much less be practical for such purposes, and no explanation as to how they could work, what they would look like. how big they would be, or, importantly, how they would be powered.
Either Wood is a nut job, has too much time on her hands, or a ‘false flag’ dysinformationalist in the information war to obscure the issues at hand while discrediting those who don’t buy the official story. It was thermite — controlled demolition. That’s what the evidence shows.
I’m not sure what caused the phenomena, but I’ve watched the videos of the collapsing second tower, the support beams turn to dust, they simply vaporize into the air. No bending, or melting, just vaporization. After having seen the video for the first time I was a little shocked, it is very clear, the beams simply turn to dust and blow away. What could cause this to happen down the full length of the column?
Also I find it extremely arrogant to cast out aspersions like ‘nutjob’ simply because someones ideas don’t fit your preconceived notions of reality. The judgement minded in this comment section are so full of themselves it’s astounding. Arrogance is violence wrapped up in words, it is the anti-thesis of humility, which is ever learning.
“Without humility there can be no humanity” – J.Buchan
I’m not arrogant — you are just a pesty troll who is constantly full of it, and full of judgements and arrogance yourself, spouting nonsense. ‘Directed energy weapon’ my foot. Before I even admit to the possibility I want to see a detailed scientific explanation of how such a thing works, not just a bunch of hooey, and there’s none of that in anything I’ve seen from Judy Woods.
Stop bothering me with your garbage and insults, and do your fantasies and magical thinking with someone else.
You are indeed arrogant, and you dislike being called out for it. A petulant attitude and insults towards anything that doesn’t fit into the materialistic worldview is the regular fare from self appointed experts such as yourself.
For someone who has posted as little as I have, to get labelled a ‘troll’ is a bit much, it seems to me you live on the comments section of this site, and someone comes poking around your territory and has you all in a huff. The problem with types like you, is you think your worldview is the supreme account, and feel the need to impose it on others with the use of ridicule and condescension.
There is no ‘magic’, only natural laws of creation that are hitherto unknown. (And yes, I said creation, does that pain you?)
Well, blue and Angelo, I think it´s enough guys, do not fight more, please. Who is or is not a troll is decided in moderation and ultimately by The Saker. Please do not categorize other commentators. Thank you.
Judy Wood. Mechanical Engineer, PhD with doctorate in the observation of the destruction of materials under thermal heat….and she says the buildings were not destroyed by thermal heat. That includes nanothermo blah blah and nukes.
blue, just out of curiosity..what degrees do you have ? Evolution theory of apeman and what else ?
Blue has left the building.
Migrant Crisis: The Footage the Media Refuses to Broadcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV315xqbRK8
(the first minutes contain videos that I already re-posted earlier)
We talked about her already, but MUST WATCH:
Barbara Lerner Spectre calls for destruction of Christian European ethnic societies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
Hello Saker,
it is probably and hopefully complete BS.
But as you are in that area I want you to see this nevertheless.
I hope in 2 weeks or 1 month we can laugh about this.
On the other hand there is enough reason to be worried (Dollar, Jade Helm, too many other things)
Asteroid Kill Zone, 23 Sep 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m81W1EhDDSo
It can be crazy PsyOp nonsense.
But we all know that September 2015 has a satanic magic meaning to certain too powerful circles. These freaks are even insane enough to cover this topic in their own English-language newspapers:
BLOOD MOON FEVER: Some of Jewish history’s biggest events during the Tetrad, the 4 consecutive blood moons
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/02/26/blood-moon-fever-what-are-some-of-jewish-historys-biggest-events-during-the-tetrad-the-4-consecutive-blood-moons/
So if they won’t bow up anything it would in fact be a surprise.
Please check if there is some truth to such claims, and if yes RUN!
All the Best,
%martin
@Saker
Maybe I should *****stress***** again: That man is not claiming the typical story of “Asteroid will hit US coast”. But he says that somebody could spread such rumous intentionally as disinfo and in fact throw something down there and film it, while igniting NUCLEAR BOMBS simultanously to simulate a real Asteroid impact. Think about that!
And wonder once more why the Pope is addressing the UN for the first time ever, and then exactly on that daemonic date:
http://www.popefrancisvisit.com/official-final-schedule-of-pope-francis-u-s-visit-2015/
Official Schedule For Pope Francis’ Visit to U.S.
Pope Francis Visits Washington D.C.
Tuesday, September 22, 2015
4pm: Pope Francis arrives in D.C. at Joint Base Andrews at 4 p.m.
Wednesday, September 23, 2015
9:15 a.m: White House Welcoming Ceremony and personal meeting with President Barack Obama
11:30 a.m: Midday Prayer with U.S. bishops at Saint Matthew’s Cathedral in D.C.
4:15 p.m: Junipero Serra Canonization Mass at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
Thursday, September 24, 2015
10 a.m: Speech to the Senate and House of Representatives (Joint Session of Congress)
11 a.m. Brief appearance on West Front of Capitol
11:15 a.m: Visit to St. Patrick’s Catholic Church in D.C. and Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington
4 p.m: Departure for New York from Joint Base Andrews (D.C.)
5 p.m. Arrival at John F. Kennedy International Airport (New York)
6:45 p.m. Evening prayer at St. Patrick’s Cathedral (New York)
Pope Francis Visits New York
Friday, September 25, 2015
8:30 a.m United Nations General-Assembly
11:30 a.m Multi-religious service at 9/11 Memorial and Museum, World Trade Center
4 p.m. Visit to Our Lady Queen of Angels School in East Harlem
5 p.m. Papal motorcade through Central Park
6 p.m. Madison Square Garden Mass
Dear Saker
This map only tells us about the ten big US carriers. It would be helpful if it included information on the nine other carriers they have that they classify differently for budgetry reasons. Each one of the nine is apparently as big as any other countries carriers eg the French Charles de Gaulle.
Best wishes
re: Syrian situation: Moderator–sorry to be posting “too fast” but these are important times and under the surface much is going on. OK. two years ago in July the Israelis claiming that Syria was about to give weapons provided by Russia to Hezbollah, bombed a warehouse in Latakia supposedly containing defensive missiles .There is some international law which covered them on this which they touted out. this was before Isil. Now, the Syrian army and hezbollah and a few other allied groups based in Lebanon and the Kurds are currently the only effective force against Isil. NATO via Turkey ( although this may be for purely Erdovans own opportunistic reasons) is bombing the Kurds. The question is now…will the Russians let the Israelis pull their nonsense this time when quite blatantly it would be a strike ipso facto in support of ISIL? And this at a time when Russia ( doing Minsk II type diplomacy) is calling for a United Front against ISIL? Please think about this carefully even if you do not post this. Especially since the chaos in Syrian skies is ominously similar to times before pre shoot down of the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine.
Teranam the ‘posting too fast’ has nothing to do with Saker’s moderators. Its just a computer thing
Story here about Chicago of the 2010’s issuing IOUs to state lottery winnings!
HA, so even a winner is a loser.
Because Illinois has no current budget, the state does not pay lotto winners. Instead it sends the winners IOUs. Yesterday, two Illinois lottery winners filed a class action lawsuit over unpaid prizes.
Promises, Promises
Unpaid bills do not count additional promises that politicians seek. For example, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel wants a half billion dollars from the state to shore up the Chicago school budget.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.ca/2015/09/apocalypse-illinois-ious-projected-to.html#UoeVjXKXUhbDirxW.99
Sure looks to be they’re desperate to hold their racket together long enough till they can start a big war somewhere for the ultimate distraction.
It’s why Rahmbo was installed as capo of Chicago there!
But the entire state is going going gone broker by the day.
– Yesterday I posted http://www.moonofalabama.org article alleging Rus air defense drills w live missiles off the coast of Tartous, complete w the supposed announcement. Today it appears this might be confirmed by Rus announcement of naval drills in the Eastern Mediterranean.
– Reuters says components of upgraded SA-22 (Pantsir-S1) anti-aircraft system already arrived at Latakia, to be operated by Russians; who knows? Says Syria already has earlier version for several years
– Friday Poroshenko ruled out any possibility of extending the Minsk agreements into 2016. (What the. . ?)
-Syrian discussion here is extremely interesting http://syrianperspective.com/2015/09/russian-intervention-in-syria-the-details-a-syrper-exclusive.html Can’t say about the reliability, but discussion is rational, esp in light of necessity to interdict supply line at Turkish border.
Russia is moving the pieces into place to control the air space over Syria.
1. to protect themselves, their troops, their equipment.
2. to protect the Syrian Army and Hezbollah and some Iranians.
3. to limit the Turks flying over Syria. This will protect the Kurds especially.
4. to limit the Israelis attacking Syrian Army resources.
5. to require coordination of US/NATO/Five Eyes air strikes with Syrian government.
6. to establish Russian stake holding in the region.
7. to demonstrate that the ME is no longer an Anglo-American bombing range or sphere of influence.
Red Ryder,
I think really important to watch what happens to the Patriot missiles on Turkey’s border. These have prevented Syrian airforce from securing the northern part of the country, since it was basically a no-fly area– especially after Turkey shot down a plane.
US announced withdrawal of the Patriots perhaps a month ago, and the other two NATO providers of Patriots also announced withdrawal. It is unclear what this means since the withdrawal is said to take effect at the end of the pre-agreed installation period, which is still a ways off.
Thierry Meyssan saw this move as more or less a proof of US president’s intention to see ISIS attacked– a proof given to the Russians. If you want to be Machiavellian, I suppose Obama cd explain that he can’t oppose the media attack on Russian preparations until after the Iranian agreement is a done deal. US’s usual contradictory behavior which makes response difficult.
It’s unclear to me whether northern part of Syria is nonetheless officially a no-fly zone or not. Erdogan and General Allen said it was, then US said it wasn’t. Don’t know the current state of play. US publicly asked Erdogan not to Bomb the Syrian Kurds. I think the present bombing of the Kurds is of Turkey’s domestic Kurds, who have declared their region autonomous.
The Turks are the locals with the big army, and everything wd change were they to invade. However the army has already stated that it requires such an order in writing and signed by the new govt– which Erdogan has not been able to form. Difficult to see the outcome of the semi-civil-war in Turkey now. In the coming election there are now serious objections to voting for any of the 3 leading parties.
Penelope
Here’s the way a no-fly zone works. The authors have to enforce it. Turkey will have to fly into Syrian air space (soon to be controlled by Russia in behalf of Syrian’s sovereign borders). That is suicide against Russian missile systems. Thus, the no-fly zone is in effect controlled from the ground by Russia.
The NATO game of domination is ending. Erdogan may have a powerful military and NATO Article 5 as shield, but that does not get him squat with Russians. The way he shot down Syrian planes is what he now faces with the Russians.
The protocol will be like an ADIZ which we see in Asia. Planes get permission to pass into various Japanese, South Korean and Chinese zones.
Syria will soon be able to control its own skies.
The NATO dogs will be back in the barracks and planes will be in their hangars.
All these nations who don’t like Russia have been invited in on the fight, now coordinated by and through Russian military. This is not paper or handshake diplomacy. This is a new reality. A military superpower (Russia) has decided in its war councils to destroy ISIS in place.
The sponsors of ISIS are on notice. Qatar, Saudi, Turkey, US are being moved off the playing field. Israel will be marginalized.
The neo-con dream of balkanization of Syria will end in failure.
This is not just shoring up Assad. This is a declared war to destroy ISIS.
Red Ryder,
I doubt Russia would be so confrontational. She’s still trying to build a coalition including the West to attack ISIS. Failing that, to at least coordinate their flights so as to avoid incidents.
Her presence as an observer & her assistance to Syria is immensely valuable.
Anyway I can’t wait until Syria is out of danger. The Empire has just got to be stopped here.
Syria and the Russian kerfluffle: Looks as if Russia Insider is on it.
http://russia-insider.com/en/military/russian-shipments-air-defense-systems-syria-rile-israel/ri9695
SEP 12
A young Jewish American man has been charged with pretending to be an Australian-based Islamic State jihadist after a FBI joint investigation with the Australian Federal Police based on information provided by Fairfax Media.
Joshua Ryne Goldberg, a 20-year old living at his parents’ house in US state of Florida, is accused of posing online as “Australi Witness,” an IS supporter who publicly called for a series of attacks against individuals and events in western countries.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html
SEP 12
\
The Royal Australian Air Force has undertaken its first mission over Syria, but fighter jets used no weapons and returned without incident.
RAAF Australian Air Task Group deployed four aircraft into eastern Syria overnight — two F/A-18A Hornets, a refuelling aircraft and an early warning and control aircraft.
Though the Australian Air Task Group did not used weapons, it will continue to plan and conduct air strikes against Daesh in Iraq and Syria under coalition strike operations aimed at reducing the impact of Daesh forces.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/09/12/australia-syria-raaf_n_8126284.html?ncid=edlinkauhpmg00000001
Again: apologies to the moderators: The anglo zionist press is busy creating a parallel universe narrative for their future actions in the mid East especially after the two day Jewish holiday which ends sundown Monday night. Let us be clear that Syrian territory is being bombed from the air illegally ( with no international legal cover or invite by Syrians) by the following countries: Turkey, Israel, UK, USA, Australia. So any defensive missiles provided by Russia could be used legally for Syria’s legitimate defensive against any of these. Be quick, folks and realize when a psy-op putsch might be afoot because it can begin slowly: an article here, a justification there, a suspicion planted, a subtle innuendo, an alternate explanation of a perfectly reasonable situation etc.etc. This is not a call to be paranoid, just an appeal to be very, very aware.
The link provided by Penelope above seems legitimate and authoritative to me.
http://syrianperspective.com/2015/09/russian-intervention-in-syria-the-details-a-syrper-exclusive.html#comment-122638
Among other things, in the comments Ziad says the southern front is a “flop”, and a “big surprise” which he will reveal when permitted. The hawks controlling the US media, particularly neocon-Republican Fox News who have been at war with Obama since his first election, have the task of making it impossible for Obama to switch the narrative from “Assad is Evil Incarnate”, and there has been no deviation from that party line even when Obama attempted to cast ISIS in the role. It is virtually unimaginable that the US administration could change the script now, but a change behind the curtains is definitely in the cards when “long discussions” are mentioned at the exact same time that the war drums are ratcheted up. If the southern front is a flop and the big surprise is that sides are being rethought, then the northern front will also flop. A nuclear missile submarine makes any air attack on Russian or Syrian forces suicidal, since the bases or ships originating the attacks will be gone and the aircraft will have nowhere to land; etc. I think it is very possible that the strategic struggle is over, the takfiris will be gone, and a peace settlement will soon be possible on the basis of the Russian position. Germany is already with Russia according to DWN.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/09/12/syrien-deutschland-bricht-aus-us-allianz-gegen-russland-aus/
The senseless position of the US is so apparent that it can only be maintained inside the US media space, and then by glossing over facts and mixing in local politicians to muddy the waters.
David George,
Excellent DWN link, thank you. But you know, Germany, Spain and Austria are talking about being in favor of Russia’s DIPLOMATIC involvement in the “anti-ISIS” fight– nothing said about welcoming the Russian’s military involvement.
Yes, and there will have to a diplomatic settlement at some point — after the shooting and bombing stops and there is no more support of any kind for the “rebels”, I hope. Then the Syrians can sit down and decide their own future as Putin says. But just to throw spanners in the works, no doubt the “powers” will somehow insert themselves into the diplomacy, since the US was backing “moderates” with an eye to having a seat at the diplomatic table. I would give them and their criminal cronies nothing! No seat, no voice, nothing. No Saudi, no Turkey, no Qatar, no UK, no France, no US, etc., nothing. Just as they were crowing that Bashar Assad has no place in the future of Syria, let them now have no place in the future of Syria, that is my hope. Let people with some goodwill be the rebuilders.
Wow, i hope the post is reliable. Great news if so, but i think the Saker would be surprised by it
Back to Zakharchenko and the coming elections, schools, the money supply, electricity, and Minsk 2. The latest with English subs for us who lack language skills.
Notice at the very end when he stands and moves. He’s still crippled. I keep him in my thoughts. A young man with young kids and he may not be able to play with them in normal ways when this is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PpocRlXumc&feature=youtu.be&a
Thanks to vox Populi Evo for the translation and subs.
OT
The below might be of interest to some of you;
9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money – link to Corbett Report.com.
Daniel Rich
This video about 9-11 is completely like any of the other coverage. I’m aware of it & have posted it here & there, but always wished for a transcript– and here there’s a transcript on your link. Terrific. Thanks so much.
@ Penelope,
Q; Thanks so much.
R; You’re welcome.
Russian Aid to Syria: how the meme gets developed. Article by the BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34233723
First of all note the snotty parentheses around ‘carrying aid’ in the headline. This was the same smear job they did during the first aid conveys to the Donbass. Then the use of unnamed sources to create a lie ” It comes amid reports that Russia is stepping up military support to the Syrian government” . Again, an unnamed source: “analysts say that without the Kremlin’s backing ( note” Kremlin “is real cold war usage) President Assad may have fallen by now. Then again maybe he wouldn’t have fallen by now and in either case he is still alive and kicking. Then the “concern” of US and NATO that Russia was increasing its military presence. Well, is it or isn’t it??? Then the” catching in a lie sentence”:: The Kremlin has dismissed an military build-up but Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday that Russia would send more help to Syria if requested.” Well, the article has already established how Syria would have fallen without Russian aid and so now it has to establish that more is on the way because it will be requested. Wait for it, wait for it…”US officials have said Russia may be giving President Assad extra (maybe ? extra?) military support because he has suffered substantial territorial losses to rebels.” The Syrian government recently lost control of a key air base in the north-eastern province of Idlib” True, but didn’t they just take it back? Oh then let’s do guilt by association with blah, blah about Bulgaria refusing to allow Russian aircraft to cross its air space “amid fears that Russia was sending extra ( wow, there is that “extra” word again) military support to Syria. now here is the clincher: ” Russia later said it had been given permission to fly over Iranian territory en route to Syria” ( no mention of the Greek’s permission). And the final manipulative line which totally does not mention Isil: ” The war between President Assad’s regime and various rebel groups has so far killed at least 240,00 people and displaced millions.”
In this narrative Isil has disappeared so has context and focus. Watch for Isil coverage to fade away in the next week and for the old Israeli cannard that that “extra” aid is being given to Hezbollah to abound. Oh watch the ramp up the tears for all the refugees ,”millions” , created by nasty ol’ Assad And don’t forget all those ‘perhaps’ and ‘maybes’ of BBC stellar journalism: All these will continue ad nauseum.
Do they really think we are all completely illiterate fools?
@ teranamqe,
Q; Do they really think we are all completely illiterate fools?
R; Whatever people may say about you, you are definitely not one of them.
Furthermore, I consider your BBC dissection to be the equivalent of a ‘moral home-run.’
[parentheses added to make the concept more outstanding].
I loved it. Well done.
I saw that yesterday but thought that people here are probably tired by now of seeing my “BBC calling! BBC calling” reference to Lord Haw-Haw and the BPC -British Propaganda Corporation.
As for that line ” The war between President Assad’s regime and various rebel groups has so far killed at least 240,00 people and displaced millions.”, note that ‘rebel groups’ is neutral but Assad has a ‘regime’ with all the negative association of that word.
As for your last line, I am afraid that for most it’s true. But take note BBC minions, MIC psychopaths, NSA creepies and associated political lowlife, the credibility of the Mass Media is starting to crack under the strain of the egregious lies and distortion you feed it. Even the masses are starting to catch on.
Why? When a simple word analysis and picture association is so blatantly obvious that you need know nothing about the subject matter starts to become clear even to the dullest.
So, ‘handmaiden to the Hegemon’ BBC, take note.
As for what’s actually happening I have read that Putin is moving heavy assets such as nuclear subs/warships to the Syrian coast which is what is rattling USA/NATO. So they respond by spreading disinformation about the normal ongoing Russian supply to Syria, twisting it to being something entirely new and adding rot about tanks, fighter jets and boots on the ground.
@ SanctuaryOne,
I also don’t think anyone is foolish enough to force a Russian plane to land, the way they did with Peruvian president Evo Morales’ plane. I guess that’s why they shtick to ‘chasing’ Russian planes in international airspace.
Sanctuary One,
The one that gets me is “barrel bomb”. There’s not the slightest evidence that Assad is dropping barrel bombs on anyone– certainly not his own people. And what are the Western coalition dropping: metal cannister bombs. So what’s the big difference?
Penelope, the big differerence is that the Hegemon/NATO have manifestly destined double standards.
OT
The following might be of interest to some of you;
A [November 2000] policy paper by Sharon Weinberger and Dov S. Zakheim; ‘Toward a Fortress Europe‘ – link to Sharon Weinberger.com.
It’s in .PDF format. Download a Free .PDF reader here – link to Adobe.com
Here’s the correct download link to Adobe’s Free .PDF reader. My apologies.
Hello,
FYI: On UNIX/LinUX you can use evince.
It’s open-src and much slimmer, also you consume less bandwidth (NSA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evince
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince/Downloads
p.s. As I see it is also usable by those who are crazy enough to still use MS-Windows for surfing …
ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/evince/2.32/evince-2.32.0.145.msi
If you take a 100% safe/secure approach, you check the src code and compile/link it yourself.
Source code
Checkout the source code from Evince’ git repository with:
git clone git://git.gnome.org/evince
Download released source packages from http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/evince/.
A bit OT, but this thread is about the USA, and so is Coca Cola to some extent.
Not sure if everybody is aware of CocaCola’s hot connections to Hitler and Nazi Germany.
See the latest pictures on my fb at
https://www.facebook.com/OpenSXCE
(via google there appear also many pics that look like fakes, therefore my fb url)
Coca Cola is also blamed to have used forced labour/work-slaves in Nazi-Germany and has apparently made some $$$ settlements with relatives of individual victims. Yet Coca Cola denies any wrongdoing.
There are quite a few firect and indirect connections to support for Nazi Germany e.g. IBM and punched card databases. Perhaps now that history is being revised and fascism is romantic, blah, blah, more evidence of complicity will emerge. Business is all.
It brings to mind a classic piece in Dr.Strangelove when Group Captain Lionel Mandrake (Peter Sellars) needs some coins for the telephone in order to call the US President and prevent nuclear armaggedon. It’s prescient and far too good not to share again even if you have seen it multiple times:
“Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Colonel… that Coca-Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some change in there.
Colonel “Bat” Guano: That’s private property.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Colonel! Can you possibly imagine what is going to happen to you, your frame, outlook, way of life, and everything, when they learn that you have obstructed a telephone call to the President of the United States? Can you imagine? Shoot it off! Shoot! With a gun! That’s what the bullets are for, you twit!
Colonel “Bat” Guano: Okay. I’m gonna get your money for ya. But if you don’t get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what’s gonna happen to you?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: What?
Colonel “Bat” Guano: You’re gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company”
And who can forget: “General “Buck” Turgidson: Mr. President, we must not allow a mineshaft gap! and “Mein Führer! I can walk!”
Absolutely true, I know, google for ibm nazis
https://www.google.de/search?q=ibm+nazis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=KCD1VY-8DonaU-zFjpgG
@ SanctuaryOne,
And the likewise brilliant;
“Gentlemen…gentlemen. You cannot fight in here… This is the War Room!”
The Benefits of having US-“Democracy” – Before-vs-After comparison:
http://copypast.ru/fotografii/katastrofi/siria-0-/siria-0-011.jpg
pathetic
Col Cassad had a poll concerning the future of Donbass, Novorossiya, answered by residents of Russia, New Russia and Ukraine as categories.
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2383998.html Use Yandex to translate.
Poll #2022123 Future Of Novorossiya
Open to: All, detailed results are visible: All. Participants: 2417
Which option you think is preferable?
Show the answers
I am a resident of new Russia, and I believe that the DNR and LNR should be part of Russia
219(9.8%)
I am a resident of new Russia, and I believe that the DNR and LNR should be part of an independent Novorossiya
44(2.0%)
I am a resident of new Russia, and I believe that the DNR and LNR should develop as an independent Republic
12(0.5%)
I am a resident of new Russia, and I believe that the DNR and LNR have to go back to the Ukraine
25(1.1%)
I am a citizen of Russia and I believe that the DNR and LNR should be part of Russia
894(39.9%)
I am a citizen of Russia and I believe that the DNR and LNR should be part of an independent Novorossiya
540(24.1%)
I am a citizen of Russia and I believe that the DNR and LNR should develop as an independent Republic
106(4.7%)
I am a citizen of Russia and I believe that the DNR and LNR have to go back to the Ukraine
79(3.5%)
I am a resident of Ukraine and believe that DNR and LNR should be part of Russia
94(4.2%)
I am a resident of Ukraine and believe that DNR and LNR should be part of an independent Novorossiya
68(3.0%)
I am a resident of Ukraine and believe that DNR and LNR should develop as an independent Republic
20(0.9%)
I am a resident of Ukraine and I think that the DNR and LNR have to go back to the Ukraine
50(2.2%)
Difficult to answer
87(3.9%)
What is in your opinion the future of Novorossiya?
Show the answers
Donbass will become part of Russia
405(18.0%)
Donbass shove back to Ukraine
587(26.2%)
DND and LNR will be developed as two of the unrecognized Republic
516(23.0%)
DNR and LC small form Novorossiya
181(8.1%)
Will form a Large Novorossia
345(15.4%)
Difficult to answer
210(9.4%)
Remember what Saker has always said. Russians don’t want part of the Ukraine even if that part is mostly Russian.
He also said that there was weak support for the fight among the people of Donbass.
He is borne out in these results.
And therefore, Putin is correct in not going gung ho and conquering the area because some patriots want to defeat the Ukies.
With these facts in mind a slow, gradual, undramatic wearing down of the junta is prudent.
However, if the Donbass looks to face another offensive, the Bear will roar and strike hard.
According to that small poll Russians themselves were 40% to be part of Russia (39.9% so 40%).And some type of independence was 29.0% among Russians (28.8% so basically 29.0%).And only 3.5% (or lets say 4.0%,almost the exact percentage that I hear the 5th column holds inside Russia) of Russians agreed with Donbass going back to Ukraine.Those are about the polls numbers I’ve heard about before.So that means,for Donbass’s freedom from Ukraine,at least 69% of Russians want that (the 27% no answer or not sure.If pressed would probably divide around the other figures the same way). The other 2 interesting parts of the poll were that only 1.0% of Novorossians wanted to return to Ukraine (1.1%,so 1.0).A horribly small number for the Ukrainian side.The other,was that only 2.0% of Ukrainians thought that they should be forced back in.Also a horrible number for junta supporters.
The totals breakdown is interesting as well.Only 26% of the total thinking they will go back to Ukraine (of all groups combined). While 64% of all groups combined think they will break away from Ukraine (in whichever form of breakaway).It would seem to me the poll is pretty clear.No, to Ukraine,and yes, to either Russia (the highest vote totals),or yes, to independence.A good fact to remember when we see Western propaganda about how “they don’t want to breakaway from Ukraine”.Well now we see that is a total lie,they do want that.The only question is in which form of breakaway.That isn’t as clear yet.
Sorry..can’t resist….I wonder how many Russians want to be part of DNR ?
Haha,well we know there are several thousand volunteers from Russia.But in seriousness,I don’t think they see a difference.The border is like the US-Canadian border in Washington State and BC.The culture is the same.Or the Bavarian-Austrian border,Salzburg used to be part of Bavaria until becoming Austrian,same culture.
Mark Sleboda & Jay Tharappel
Discuss Ukraine and Syria, two war zones on the front lines of imperialism today.
http://store.counterpunch.org/mark-sleboda-jay-tharappel-episode-18
Another podcast a couple of months old on Syria
Sharmine Narwani & Reme Sakr.
http://store.counterpunch.org/sharmine-narwani-reme-sakr-episode-9/
The EU is worrying about winter coming up,as they should be.And are trying to see that the Minsk agreements are kept before then.Its doubtful of course, since the junta continues to violate them (even if less than before).But there is one in particular major reason there can’t be any hope yet of the war being settled by negotiations.Its plainly clear from the words of the junta FM why it can’t be:
” Meanwhile, Ukraine’s Foreign Minister, Pavlo Klimkin, said that Kiev is only ready to talk to “legitimate” representatives of Donetsk and Lugansk, and not those who were chosen through what he called the “fake” elections that took place last year.
“If you see the legitimate representatives of Donbass, which are selected as a result of free and fair elections, if you understand these representatives as wanting to return Ukrainian laws to the Donbass, then we are not only ready for dialogue, we have to have it,” Klimkin said.”
In other words,the junta won’t negotiate with the leaders of Donbass.They,an illegitimate junta,dare to call the Donbass leadership illegitimate.So in another violation of the Minsk agreement the junta dooms the country to war.Its clear that the junta must fall and all Novorossia and Ukraine be freed.All other thoughts are propaganda spill and worthless.There is no plainer “handwriting on the wall” than in this civil war.Those that don’t, or really just refuse to see it. Are fooling themselves,and trying to fool the rest of us.
http://www.rt.com/news/315186-ukraine-normandy-four-progress/
Uncle Bob 1,
It never stops. Just one irrationality after another from Kiev. There’s sure no honest negotiations going on.
I see that the money EU gave Kiev to buy their winter gas has partially “disappeared”.
If EU wants their own gas to successfully transit Ukraine they are going to have to pay Russia directly for Kiev’s gas– bypassing Kiev. This degree of corruption is almost funny.
By the way the US and MSM is frothing at the mouth about Russian “intervention” in Syria it seems they have made a move that has stopped the US intended attack on Syria.
Pantsir S1? protecting critical sites like SAM/Buk systems?
Only a small move but without taking out SAM sites the US can do nothing.
Some talk of Pantsirs sent to Syria in Reuters, no Idea how accurate that is, but I had read some time ago that Russia had sold Pantsir units to Syria.
Pantsir units with Russian “trainers” protecting critical sites from everything from mortars, to cruise missiles, to helicopters and ground attack aircraft. Plus a Russian live fire exercise off the coast.?
@ Peter,
If you check the link below, about Latkia, you’ll get a better idea why
OmbobiObombi get his nickers in atwattwist.Peter,
Hi. The live-fire drills by Russian naval forces in the Eastern Mediterranean are confirmed. Moon of Alabama broke the story, and the comments are as good as the story.
Some commenters here are predicting Russian announced control of the airspace over Syria. I think that’s more dramatic than Russia would choose to be. (That’s not to say that she wouldn’t silently set up the CAPABILITY to control it.)
If I understand it correctly, there is high ground at Slinfeh which overlooks the Turkish border and preparations are underway to militarize the area. If Syrian forces could interdict the supply line w/o subjecting aircraft to Patriot fire from Turkey. . . .
Moon of Alabama for the middle east seems to be on par with Saker’s analysis of anything Russian.
Very accurate.
Syria – Latkia Air Base; A closer look – link to Colonel Cassad.com.
Hello, attention: What brings a nice fency hotlink, if it once again is empty? No url contained.
Also, what is “Colonel Cassad.com”? (spaces are not possible in dns)
All I know is http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/ and http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/
@: Martin from S.E.B.,
Q; Hello, attention: What brings a nice fency hotlink, if it once again is empty? No url contained. Also, what is “Colonel Cassad.com”?
R; The link becomes hot without an actual url in it, that’s the main problem. Check the link above what you write when you or add a new entry all together [Click here to get more info on formatting] to get a better idea.
How many Colonel Cassads do you know?
I provide extra info so you know [and everybody else knows] where you’re heading, and don’t end up in places where you absolutely don’t want to be.
As I type everything manually [and am extremely lazy], I quite when I think the info suffices.
Oh, and, you’re welcome.
@ Daniel Rich
I did not blame you for it but wanted to help by pointing out that something went wrong (my own comments also contain many spelling errors, so no problem).
I know ony the real Cassad which is set as my browsers’s [Home] for abot 1 year: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
But care with other url’s is required, because sometimes the Empire intentionally creates sites that have similar domain names and different falsified disinfo content. So far I didn’t see this in case of Cassad but I know it from different examples in Germany, such as:
Real site: http://hinterderfichte.twoday.net/
Wrong brainshit Anti-Good Pro-Evil counter-site: http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/
That’s why I said it is important to provide A) urls and B) correct urls, rather than something remotely similar (but with [space] and [UPPERcase]).
And: Hotlinks are certainly convenient, but if it is error-prone to get them working it would be a 1000 times _better_ to provide cold-links (but containing urls, and then even the correct ones).
Also: Why do you type in everything manually??? On UNIX with Xorg I only need to mark some text and a single click of the middle mouse button automaticly pastes it whereever I want. On Windows you need to first copy and then paste it, but it can be done with hotkeys, such as ^x and ^v. Or – have you ever used your right-side mouse button? It should always give you a menu (although I’m not sure if they removed this functionality from MS-Windows, as the last versions I know myself are Win95 and a bitWin XP). I really cannot understand why anybody would pay for that NSA-infiltrated trojan Virus-pot, rather than using a real ioperating system which is open-src and FREE (UNIX/LinUX). It’s a mystery to me!
Dammit, these damn unsharp glasses.
I wrote:
> Real site: http://hinterderfichte.twoday.net/
> Wrong brainshit Anti-Good Pro-Evil counter-site: http://hinter-der-fichte.blogspot.de/
Of course it is the other way around.
That’s the disadvantage of copy&&paste: It goes so quickly and maybe one pastes the wrong thing into the wrong place.
Sorry for the confusion. On the other hand it is a good illustration what can go wrong with either method. Need a break and some caffeine …
ouch: I meant “fancy”
Missing link.
U.S.-Installed Ukrainian Regime Now Fears Return of Donbass to Ukraine
Eric ZUESSE | 12.09.2015 | 00:00
On September 6th, Ukraine’s Apostrophe news-site headlined, «Putin will try to return the Donbass to the Ukraine – Gerashchenko», and quoted a prominent member of Ukraine’s parliament who is also a member of the committee overseeing Ukraine’s national security, Anton Gerashchenko, as saying that for Ukraine to re-absorb the breakaway region, Donbass (its two districts Donetsk and Lugansk), back into Ukraine, would be politically disastrous, unless the residents there are eliminated: he said, «Putin will do everything to return the Donbass to the Ukraine … in order to allow pro-Russian inhabitants of Donetsk and Lugansk regions to vote and change the configuration of power in our country». He didn’t want them to be able to vote in Ukraine’s national elections.
This influential Ukrainian government official said:
“Putin has thrown all his energy into splitting Ukraine from the inside. First of all, the split of the Verkhovna Rada [parliament] to conduct new parliamentary elections. As soon as he sees that these plans are real [i.e., that Donbass will again be voting in Ukrainian national elections], he is sure to try to return the Donbass to the Ukraine, the residents there will be able to participate in them [Ukraine’s elections]. Due to the fact that the voters of Crimea and Donbas did not participate in last year’s parliamentary [and Presidential] elections, the structure of government in Ukraine has changed dramatically. The majority in Parliament has been owned by pro-European forces [the U.S.-installed government]. But if voters in Donbass again have the opportunity to vote [in Ukraine], it is clear that they will support pro-Russian politicians. This can seriously change the balance of power in the country. Therefore, once again I repeat, if Putin really feels that Ukraine could split from the inside and hold early parliamentary elections, he will do everything he can in order to restore to us Donbass.”
He’s not saying that Donbass does not need to be seized and restored to be again part of Ukraine’s land; he is saying that the residents of Donbass cannot be part of Ukraine; they cannot again be Ukrainians — they cannot be people who are allowed to vote in Ukrainian national elections […]
[…]
full article:
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/09/12/us-installed-ukrainian-regime-now-fears-return-donbass-ukraine.html
News Front and ANNA News reported that the Ukie SBU has kidnapped two Russian service men from the Rostov area, Russian Federation.
This is huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaDWcmbfnw
Saker,
This post is off target. However, the linked article below is of great interest because suddently Saakashvili and KvivPost are talking a shadow government in Ukraine. Of course, the real shadow government is now the USA while formerly it was just oligarchs. Is this an attempt to shift the blame away from the USA when Kiev collapses?
—————————
“Ukraine is de facto run by a “shadow government” whose strings are pulled by oligarchs behind the scenes, Mikheil Saakashvili, ex-president of Georgia and governor of Odesa Oblast, said on Sept. 12 at the Yalta European Strategy forum in Kyiv.
“We certainly have the reality of some kind of shadow, parallel government,” he said. “You can describe Ukraine as a joint-stock company owned by oligarchs… Every oligarch owns his own judges, prosecutors and paramilitary units.” https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/s-aakashvili-says-ukraine-run-by-shadow-oligarchic-government-397787.html
Will Corbyn survive ? So ask Assange:
Assange cited a cable that he said had been sent from the US Ambassador to the UK to Washington after a meeting with then-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs William Hague. Hague was quoted as saying: “Whoever enters 10 Downing Street as a Prime Minister soon learns the essential nature of the relationship with America… We want a pro-American regime. We need it, the world needs it.”
http://www.rt.com/uk/315185-jeremy-corbyn-triumph-divide/
A couple of reports making the news in Russia:
Anatoly Pashinin well known Russian actor (and traitor who moved to Ukraine and wears Azov nazi insignia) called on Russians to blow up oil and gas pipelines inside Russia.And says they are plotting a fascist revolt in Russia against Putin.People in Russia are not “pleased” at his remarks.And I suggested a visit by the GRU and firing squad for him.
Nuland promises to keep the sanctions on Russia.And not to change the anti-Russian policy of the US as long as Crimea isn’t returned to Ukraine.I would suggest the same two solutions I offered in the other case for her, BTW.
Syria/MidEast: First Day of Rosh Hashonnah. And so it goes:
http://www.rt.com/news/315190-israeli-forces-storm-palestinian-mosque/
There is organized opposition in the West: New Brit Labor leader who looks like a man of principle–we can hope.
http://www.rt.com/uk/315191-corbyn-red-flag-pub-celebration/
Now if the Czechs revive ” Tanks, No thanks! ” to the latest military swaggering we can really begin to see the light of a new dawn.