https://southfront.org/u-s-u-k-france-conduct-massive-missile-strike-on-syria-details/
On April 14, the US, the UK and France launched a joint massive strike on Syria justifying their actions with the alleged use of chemical weapons in Douma on April 7.
According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the Syrian Air Defense Forces shot down 71 of 103 missiles launched by the US-led bloc.
- Four missiles were launched at the area of the Damascus International Airport. All missiles were intercepted.
- 12 missiles were launched at the Al-Dumayr Military Airport. All missiles were intercepted.
- 18 missiles were launched at the Baly Military Airport. All missiles were intercepted.
- 12 missiles were launched at the Shayarat Military Airport. All missiles were intercepted.
- 9 missiles were launched at the Mezzeh Military Airport. Five missiles were intercepted.
- 16 missiles were launched at the Homs Military Airport. 13 missiles were intercepted.
- 30 missiles were launched at targets in the areas of Barzah and Jaramani. Seven missiles were intercepted.
The Pentagon rejected reports that Syrian forces had intercepted something saying that the US and its allies “successfully hit every target”.
According to this version, the US launched 105 missiles at the alleged “chemical weapons” facilities of the Assad government.
- 76 missiles – “Barzah Research and Development Center”
- 22 missiles – “Him Shinshar Chemical Weapons Storage Site”
- 7 missiles – “Him Shinshar CW Bunker”
The situation is developing.
I’ve been thinking about the current events a lot, but it’s hard to come to any rational and cool-headed assessment as emotions are running high right now and everybody has their own opinion on the matter.
Still, even though many might disagree with me, I think the Empire got what it wanted from this attack. I highly doubt they are concerned with toppling Assad or changing the situation at the ground at this point, they know that ship has sailed, but the real target here was not Assad, but Russia.
The Empire:
1) Claimed they conducted ‘high precision’ strikes on Assad’s chemical weapons facilities and that they managed to hurt his capability to launch future chemical attacks.
2) It seems the attacks were pretty limited, and only some people were injured. Which will only serve the Empire’s propaganda purposes that they conducted ‘high precision’ strikes.
3) U.S. officials said they will bomb Syria again in case of future attacks. The French said the same.
Russia lost big time here. The symbolic act is what matters to the Empire and the message they sent to the rest of the world. Basically, only countries with nuclear weapons can protect themselves if they refuse to submit. Otherwise, you’re at the Empire’s complete mercy and nobody, not Russia, not China, no one, can protect you. The Empire can invent any scenario they want and then ‘punish’ you for it.
Russia didn’t even take diplomatic measures, only some strong condemnation. They could have expelled U.S, French and U.K, ambassadors.
To be frank, I was never too enthusiastic about Putin, yes, I respect him and what he did for Russia greatly, but I doubted his ability to really stand up to the Empire. Not to be too harsh, Russia is basically alone in its fight and one wrong step could mean total defeat, hence I understand his caution.
Lastly, I think no matter how successful he was, Putin is the continuation of Yeltsin. The paradigm of Russian policy has not changed, and in essence, Putin and the Russian leadership still hope the West will come to its senses.
Now I’m sure the Empire will be emboldened, they did what they wanted. Let us forget all about ‘limited attacks’ ’empty buildings’, etc. When geopolitical games are concerned, symbolism is all that matters.
We were all a bit ahead of ourselves to claim the world is moving away from unipolar hegemony. It might be going to that direction, but the Empire won’t give up and is quite capable of turning the tables.
Mairon
Russia lost nothing here. Putin is very wise. This was a dangerous NATO provocation, and Putin played it smart. The Russian military did back the Syrians with their electronics, both with radar and with the Khirbiny jamming systems. There was no need for Russia to intervene directly with their military, as this could have led to a wider conflict, the Syrians being quite capable of handling the job. They shot down 71 of the 103 missiles fired. The Tomahawks which Trump used last year were used again, and the Russians knew they were not too efficient. Events proved it. As far as international relations go, Russia gained and the US lost, since nobody believed the excuses presented by Washington. Russia is now looked upon as a force of stability.
mod-to note: Well said!
Just dread to think what would be if Russia was not there…if there were not these systems….if all those missiles had got through….
JJ, it would be Libya, again. Putin is facing radical Evil, the greatest by far ever in human history. He needs to stay calm, and hope that the Real Evil Empire crumbles quickly. There is NO chance that their aggression will do anything but grow and grow. At least China stood with Russia at the UNSC.
B.F. Agreed, 1 up for Putin, he’s like a skilled magician, you’re not supposed to see what he’s doing, only observe the effects, and he’s allowed the situation to be defused.
The tweeter in chief certainly lost personally. Many people who voted for him are now rightfully disgusted by what he has done. Considering what might have been the result of this aggression, the Syrian forces handled everything very well. And we should all be thankful for the patience of the Russian leadership. They do have to be careful in the other direction too, lest they are viewed as push-overs. Given the caustic comment of Nikki Haley at the U.N. that Russia and the U.S. will never be friends and they will slap around Russia whenever they need to clearly indicates they believe Russia will never defend itself. Russia should take this as a clear indication it is hopeless to wait for the west to change. They won’t. They aren’t leaving Syria either because their agenda is not yet complete. So, we can expect a repeat of this at some not to distant date. Sooner or later Russia will either have to confront and defeat the west or become slaves. Perhaps they hope to wait long enough until the west collapses from its own excesses. While this could happen, these bankers who control most of the planet’s financial system seem to have an almost endless bag of tricks to keep this house of cards propped up. I keep wondering how much longer? Meanwhile, perhaps it would be best to cut off all dealings with the U.S. and U.K. and focus on building allies and trading partners eastward. Let’s find out what sort of tantrum America has when they find out nobody wants to play with them anymore.
No one knows what is being said in the ‘back channels’ and I can understand the Russians holding back the S400/S300. Besides if it were a serious confrontation the launch platforms would be the first to go.
It would seem the Soviet era tech did for the technologically ancient Tomahawks. Suggests that against an advanced missile system its not a very effective weapon. The only people that benefit would be the manufacturer of the Tomahawk missiles.
BF, Well said. Emperor, while lying through his teeth, recognizes the fact of his failure and promises more strikes. I am not a satellite image analyst, I cant stop thinking that the low res images do not prove anything the Emperor says.
To Mairon:
Excellent post. I would add this. I think that the US told Putin that the US really would not do much damage. I think that they also told him every place that would be hit. For instance, a Revolutionary Guard barracks was hit but no one was injured. How do you hit a military barracks with a surprise attack at five in the morning and no one gets injured? It doesn’t make sense.
The only way to explain this is that the US handed Putin a loss but allowed him to save some face with his allies in the process. I think that that is what stopped this from a dangerous escalation. The whole thing was scripted.
Still Putin has lost international standing and the US will be emboldened to engage in more aggression. It is not a good result for those who advocate peace.
Russia did not lose anything militarily, that’s true. But it sends a signal Russians are all talk, no action. As I stated before, my chief concern here is that Russians will back themselves into a corner out of which there will be no escape except to either submit or risk a major war that could go nuclear.
Paul Craig Roberts, for example, had a similar assessment. At times I thought he was exaggerating, but now I’ not sure.
I tend to agree with Marion.
The real battle here is for the hearts and minds of the west.
Today the population of the west will marvel at the strength of their military and the abiility to conduct precision attacks and flatten the Russians / Syrians / etc.
They will also believe Assad did gas his own people and that he is an evil dude on a par with “Bad Vlad.”
What this means is the the western public will endorse an illegal act of war on another state and will likely support their government in undertaking a second or third such attack.
There will therefore be no public restraint on the use of military force and the situation will continue to escalate until Russia faces an existential crisis and acts to defend its interests.
Marvel at the strength of our military?
I still remember Iraq 1. I was ~14 at the time. That was a ‘marvel’. What happened last night was no marvel. Even if you take the Pentagon’s report at face value, they fired 105 missiles, each with a ~450kg warhead to…hit 3 buildings?
I don’t see what’s marvelous about that. The old “shock and awe” was destroying AA sites during the first hours of a conflict. This one just blew up 3 buildings.
Now, you can argue that I am not the ‘typical western public’, which is true. But most brainwashed people will remain brainwashed after yesterday. Skeptics will remain skeptical, and in fact their numbers will increase. The lies are beginning to be less and less effective.
On a personal note, I agree that it would provide immense satisfaction and a form of “righteous vengeance” if Russia had responded in force. However, what would that have accomplished exactly, besides putting us all at risk of a global conflict? Let me remind people here that keep commenting about Russia not doing this or that about the shooting down of a Russian plane by the Turks a few years ago. Russia could have caused significant military harm to the Turks (which I would really really have liked) but they chose not to do so. Instead, they seemed to have accomplished something even more important. Going by past deeds, they always respond, but not in the way you would expect. And that’s a good thing, because if you expect them to respond in a certain way, so does the Pentagon & the rest.
Very well said, fully agree. I am Russian, many of us really want to hit back. But thing is… there would always be a chance to do it later. Putin is brilliant and patient as Sun Tzu taught – if your enemy makes a mistake don’t stop him. The fight now goes for the minds of people in Pakistan, India, Latin America etc. I am afraid confrontation is unavoidable, we will have to come all the way to the gates of hell before we make a choice to continue or turn back
+1000
I’m a 52 year old French/Westerner and i can assure that you’re right: Russia hater will stay Russia haters.
But more and more Frenchies can see the lies, and don’t agree with these military strikes.
The MSM try very hard to convince you that all the French are anti Russia/Poutine. But they aren’t.
OK, you might say it’s wishfull thinking (because i’ve never been anti USSR/Russia in my life, “Arkady” has been my hacker’s,nickname since i was 17 years old – my good old AMSTRAD !)
But i know what i read and i’m sure that, like French people, more and more european citizens are bored/fed up with this really stupid propaganda !
You want clues ?
French “deep state” would like to shut down “RT France”: why the hell would they do such a stupid act, if all the French are really brainwashed and don’t read/watch “RT France”?
Why ALL the MSM hate and are hyterical about “RT France” if nobody trust RT ?
If it was so simple, Syria would hane been destroyed yesterday night like Irak, Libya were.
Just my to cents. Oh and last not least keep hope, don’t despair, analyse real facts with your brain, not your with your hart (coming from a pessimistic, that’s a quite funny advice!!!)
And sorry for my weird English, it’s not easy for me.
I can’t speak for the rest of the West, but I can guarantee you that there is no battle for “hearts and minds” of the American people. They are completely in the camp of their precious and beloved military. We will argue viscously over politics, but never anything concerning what the military does.
It isn’t only because of the constant brainwashing we have had since grade school, but there is hardly a single person you could meet who either not served in military themselves, has a son or daughter in the military, had parents or grandparents in the military. or all of the above. They will never cast even the slightest dispersion toward the institution or any members thereof. And most will turn on you like a rabid dog if you even give a hint of that. The favorite zombiefied comment you will get is: “well if you don’t like the country or the military, why don’t you just leave”?
The public as whole hasn’t a clue about what just happened and they wouldn’t care one whit about it if they did.
Riverdrinker, I am aware of that. I actually went to college in US ))
What I mean is there are neutral or undecided countries out there and they need to choose sides before the final showdown.
I disagree Sushi, Marian, et all…
Moscow it giving lessons in reality to the West. Moscow is hemmed in by barbarians. Its needs to interlocute with them. It has wisely chosen to start with the basics…ie, cause and effect.
The West can kill the world. Its only vision is internal. It is blind to the other. Narcissism is its name. Waking something into reality which can kill the world in a spasm of confusion when it rediscovers it is not alone is dangerous and highly specialised work.
Russia is up against a psychosis. In fact Russia combats a multilevel psychosis. Both of the main ones are Messianic…the state cultures of the US and Israel. It is a very very menacing situation. Thank God Almighty that Putin is who and what he is. He is a grand master of many things. His humility is awe inspiring. And it is that quality on which balances the life of us all.
Team Russia is doing well.
The West is psychopathy in action. Who among Western ‘leaders’ is not insane and Evil? I struggle to think of any. There are lots of cowards and opportunists, to be sure, but, like Corbyn, they are gradually being forced to join the War Party of Sabbat Goy stooges of the Zionazis, or are being extruded from the body politic. The campaign to destroy Corbyn based on entirely fraudulent accusations of the new ‘Supreme Crime’ of ‘antisemitism’ shews you just how total and totalitarian the control of the Zionazis over the West has become, and that is a recipe for disaster for everyone on Earth. When the fate of humanity rests with malevolent beings like Netanyahu, Bennett, Avigdor Lieberman, Regev, Adelson, Schumer and their ilk in the Israeli and Diaspora Zionazi elites, we are all in deep doo-doo. Those creatures are simply little pustules of hatred, and they recruit their Sabbat Goyim stooges on that basis as well. What is the first word that comes to mind when you think of Bolton, Pompeo, McCain et al-it must be ‘hatred’, given expression as the lust to destroy.
“the state cultures of the US and Israel. ”
Yes, folie a deux.
I doin’t think Putin has to react powerfully as long as he, and others, know that he can do so at any time. In other words, to get the best effect from a restrained response, it must be seen as a chosen restraint, not a restraint imposed by either fear of inadequacy of tools.
How to make that clear to the USA, and, more important, the rest of the world (and of course the Syrians themselves)?
Katherine
The real battle is NOT for the hearts & brainwashed minds of the west. The real battle is to liberate parts of the planet (e.g Eurasia) from US hegemony. The US leadership needs to understand that they cannot lay claim to the entire planet and have to keep to their side of the globe. Hopefully this is dawning on them as their currency loses value, their debts accumulate, and they are dealt with one military defeat after another. ..
The minority of the West’s population who are smart enough to see that Eurasia is the future will eventually have to emigrate, as I see it, or go down with the ship.
“The minority of the West’s population who are smart enough to see that Eurasia is the future will eventually have to emigrate, as I see it, or go down with the ship.”
I agree. But, do you mean, they will all ahve to emigrate to Eurasia, which in practical terms means Russia?
I can learn Russian, but not, I think, Chinese, and I have no desire to live or die in China!!
Katherine
And your mind and heart was not won. The ‘West’ is still under the delusion that the ‘Rest’ crave for ‘West’ attention, like the child who hates his father because he did not come to the football match.
Mairon
If Russians were all talk and no action, they would not be in Syria. What did Trump achieve with this latest attack ? Nothing. He wasted about 150 million dollars of tax payers money, firing some pretty obsolete missiles. The damage to the Assad Government and military ? Almost zero. The Russians were not even attacked, but they did back the Syrian military with intelligence info, and with electronics. The result ? Of the 103 missiles fired, 71 were shot down. Both Assad and the Russians are still in Syria. I don’t see Trump trying to repeat this nonsense again, as the situation might turn out to be different.
@ B.F.
I have clearly stated I don’t dispute the real military impact of the attack was highly questionable. It was a symbolic act. Symbolic acts, however, hold great importance in military confrontations.
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-locked-and-loaded-for-potential-future-syria-strike/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication
The Empire almost openly said they are ready to fake more chemical attacks and continue with bombings.
At the same time this is coming from Moscow:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-putin/russia-calls-for-un-meeting-on-syria-mulls-supplies-of-s-300-systems-idUSKBN1HL0GV
Mairon
I have written on numerous occasions that the Washington political establishment is incapable of grasping reality, nor is it capable of understanding the results of it’s actions. This attack against Syria proves it. They expect the world to believe and accept the excuses they have given for this act of aggression. The opposite will happen. The US will lose the little esteem it has left, while the prestige of Russia will rise even higher. The mere fact that Russia acted indirectly, wisely, efficiently, in a mature way, will give Russia the prime position to influence world events, as it is now perceived to be the chief stabilizing factor in the world. The US is on the way to becoming a rogue state.
‘They expect the world to believe and accept the excuses they have given for this act of aggression.’
They don’t.
They expect the world to understand there’s nothing they can do about it.
Bullying par exellence.
“It was a symbolic act. Symbolic acts, however, hold great importance in military confrontations. ”
Total zio-marketing nonsense. Only among propagandists, is reality subordined to psywar bs. Serious military analysis looks at cause and effect. This is a literally a propaganda viewpoint. The zionazi propaganda machine is pushing fantasy over reality, this “commenter” is reinforcing that zio-manure.
Mod-to note: Conflicting expressed views do not constitute propaganda. Please refrain from personal attacks.
But really the propaganda to actual destruction ratio is really getting out of balance here USA/UK hit 3 empty buildings and make this much noise?I understand Anglos aren’t very good at fighting and have to depend on making noise to get their way, if they’re lucky, still isn’t this a bit much even by your standards?
Have you considered the scenario that Russia agreed to fully uncover, to lay out bare the capabilities of its pawns while showing nothing of the potential of any of the more more powerful, very powerful and exceptionally powerful pieces on the board?
Thanks, all, for your comments and info. *** The whole thing certainly was scripted, A few days ago, we learned that the Russians had wisely moved their ships out of the navy base on the Syrian coast, and my sweetie observed, they know an attack is coming, so, they got their ships out into open water…….(instead of leaving them packed together and lined up in rows, like “we” did at Pearl Harbor). Hmmm! I wish mightily that I had more info. as to exactly what that plane crash in Algeria was all about (within the last week), as well as the recent shoot down of a Greek fighter jet by Turkey. Many things are going on, for sure. I read that one of “our” aircraft carriers is heading towards the eastern Med with numerous escort vessels, and along with all of the missiles expended, I’m curious as to how many billions all of this is costing us. We’ve fixed our crumbling infrastructure, provided everyone in our country with decent housing, and wiped out hunger in our country, and with all of those needful things accomplished, we now have all this money left over for war? Sure! **** One final observation: with all of the focus on “chlorine gas attacks” , and how “Assad is gassing his people with chlorine”, I read about all of the toxic waste sites we have here in the States, and all of the chemical pollution that happens here that the corporate controlled EPA does nothing about, (along with the crazy “controlled burns” that are conducted here in the national forests in Arizona every year–they use these as a ‘cover’ for burning stuff they shouldn’t be burning), and we could truthfully say we Americans are being subjected to chemical/toxin attacks by the Trump Regime. The war really is against the people, everywhere.
It’s a scripted event(the implication being Russians were secretly working with Americans) because Russians knew an attack could come and moved their ships out of the navy base?Well, I’ve news for you everybody who keep an eye on world events was in on the ‘script’, the USA announced out loud before the attack that they were going to attack.Of course it could have been a bluff, but Russia could hardly take that risk could it?The war is against everyone not under their thumb by the Anglo-imperialists and their various puppets.
Chad, the whole thing seemed “scripted” because Trump announced the attack on twitter 2 days beforehand.
Mike, advocating for peace with the greatest force for genocide and destruction in history, whose elites worship Death and live to kill, is preposterous. The USA exists for aggression, has been engaged in it for almost all its history, is responsible for initiating 80% of major conflicts since WW2 and its elites make tens of billions a year in profits from its grotesquely hypertrophied military industrial Congressional complex. If humanity survives the Orwellian ‘Pax’ Americana it will be a real miracle.
Even going by your reasoning the real conclusion would be without Russia the USA-led West would hit military and civil targets like they did in Iraq,Libya while with Russia the USA-led West will hit empty buildings, isn’t that a massive improvement?
As for the lack of immediate retaliation, why would the Russians dance to the tune of USA, especially given the attacks have stopped?Remember when Turkey shot down an Russian jet?A lot of pro-Russian people wanted immediate retaliation against Turkey while pro-American people were mocking Russia, however they didn’t find it funny when Turkey turned on the USA after the failed coup.In retrospect the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, through Erdogan or the so-called Gulen faction loyal to the USA in Turkey, was probably a calculated move by the USA to destroy good relations between Russia and Turkey so that their coup against Erdogan could proceed without any Russian interference, but VVP didn’t take the bait and now instead of a pro-American Turkey headed by Gulen we have much more sovereign and independent Turkey headed by a very Turkish, Erdogan.So rest assured there will be retaliation and USA,UK will regret their actions, but it will be on Russian terms and timing not on Anglo terms and timing.
The thing about symbolism is it is very much subject to interpretation based on an individual’s bias, unlike non-symbolic acts, so how much bias among the world population do you think is currently in favor of USA,UK Empire?Maybe your preference to interpret these symbolic actions in favor of USA,UK is a reflection of your own bias in favor of the Empire?
No, Russia didn’t lose. They need more time, they got it. Reestablishing the status quo serves the Empire, but buying more time serves Russia more. Every time the empire acts in deceit and violence Russia acts with law, restraint and honesty and evidence, she grows in the vast majorities eyes. In the Anglophone sphere she already has many allies, they’re just not in power; and there are vassalised states like my NZ that can be quite influential whose current govt are focused on multilateralism and law and dialogue (while tolerating the imperial strikes for public consumption). This focus meshes with the goals of a multipolar world, and Russia’s restraint makes it easier for these non- or reluctantly aligned nations to grow closer to Russia and China so when they pick sides, picking the right side is easier for them.
To back you up with something anecdotal, I have a few relatives that I converse with on political matters, two of whom bought the MSM line about Putin hook, line and sinker. They thought he was a devil. When Trump started threatening to attack Syria this time, with Russia saying it would retaliate, they were terrified Trump was going to end the world. I pointed out that Russia was not likely to overreact. Now one of them seems to have changed his mind about Putin; the other I haven’t heard from, but he was more heavily indoctrinated, so perhaps no effect there. They still both think “Animal Assad” (Gryphon of the Levant, anyone?) gassed his own people. You can only change people’s minds slowly, bit by bit.
Still I would not be surprised to find this realization to be more widespread than anyone will let on for a long time. Because it was Trump calling for the strike, the Democrats could see everything that was wrong with it. They were freaking out because they are so scared of Russia. Now they can see Russia really doesn’t want to have a war. The MSM will have its way with them again, but this is the kind of thing that leaves a lasting impression.
Well, the Russians learned something from 1914. If you cannot calculate the consequences, it’s better not gamble.
Wise words indeed Yugo
“Russia lost big time here.”
No, Russia did the right thing and Syria demolished the zionazi quisling american super hero mythology like Hezbollah demolished the israeli super hero mythology in Lebanon last.
The real big time loser here is israel. And it’s western zionazi network. Like the usa, uk and france.
The real winner here is Syria. David stood up to Goliath and castrated him. Right there, in front of the crowd watching. And cheering. The zionazis’ attack dog was shown to not only be missing most of it’s teeth, it also has a bad case of arthritis in it’s joints. Not to mention high blood pressure and a heart condition and alsheimers approaching full bloom. Growing old is a suka…
The claims by this “commenter” about:
“I highly doubt they are concerned with toppling Assad or changing the situation at the ground at this point”
LOL, no doubt their daesh proxies, chomping at the bit to begin a new offensive to rescue israel’s failing war in the south of Syria, felt the same way. :-D
The daesh offensive was quickly aborted after the SAA killed their initial attacks and the zionazi missile strike proved to be a miserable failure due to superior Syrian AD humiliating the israeli’s attack dog “big time”.
“1) through 3)”
Both 1 & 2 are irrelevant. The zionazi deciples of goebbels claims would be essentially the same no matter what happened. #3 is something to expect. The israelis are not done by any means and their quislings will no doubt try their luck again. It’s only goys in the colonies, expendables, you know…
“I think the Empire got what it wanted from this attack.”
That depends on whether one is a zio-kool aid drinker or an intelligent, thinking person. You want to believe the zionazi propaganda, and push it, go ahead. No rational government leader under threat from israeloamerica would be so stupid. The zionazis expected “shock and awe”, what they got was their arse handed to them. While zombies additcted to zionazi-gay media may buy the zio-horse manure, the people with functioning brains, you know, those people involved in serious work, in countries under threat from zionazia, and those in the colonies working for independence, saw what went down, saw the zionazi fail, and will take heart.
No amount of zionazi psywar nonsense will change the fact zionazia’s exceptional exceptionals went in guns blazing and left without hitting a thing, while their knife removed testicles were left laying on the ground, drawing flies.
this was written earlier, when it was known to me that 3 facilities were targeted.
So they did it.
Targets:
one chemical weapons research facility in Damaskus
one chemical weapons storage facility near Homs
one chemical weapons storage facility in close vicitity to and east of Damaskus.
Imagine this:
the Damascus research facility contains copious amounts of sarin and organic phosphates being released into a densely populated area, namely the capital of Syria.
The two other storage facility each holding tons of chemical warfare agents, sarin, lost, tabun and other goodies, all to be released totally uncontrollable into the environment.
Or does the CIA have the lates inventory lists?
CCBS! Stands for: Condensed Consolidated Bullshit
What a superb example of military planning!
If you are looking for some idiots – look into a mirror.
The other side of the coin.
The two storage facilities did not hold ANY chemical warfare agents but traces need to be found during subsequent inspections. To assure that the agents have to be delivered by the incoming missiles.
Only 32 of 103 got through to their targets.
Somewhere on the debris of the downed missiles those traces will be found, courtesy of Russian and Syrian personell who found and contaminated them with the inculpating evidence. False flag in reverse! Has anyone planning this strike considered this possibility?
All this strike does is to pollute the international political atmosphere for years to come.
It also shows that certain elements in NATO politics and military are still wedded the the “Assad must go” doctrine!
To all of those who gave the orders to this attack.
My greetings
Hei Hitler.
Der Kampfbeobachter
Your Hei Hitler means, Lessons not learned, and the cosequences were:
LIVE audio recording of an air raid attack on Berlin by the Allies, March 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmEplD_V-f0
1945 Lost German Girl ~Read below for the full story of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krn9Vi9Psgc
Post war murder of Sudeten Germans in Czechoslovakia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IFfQdM7EI
Dresden Bombed To Atoms: World War II (1945)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh-KWJWRjcI
East Prussia lost forever and 12 million German civilian were expelled with nothing to eat and no where to go, rubbed, abused, and killed by Polish and Red army (Kkonigsberg.now Kaliningrad).
All German Females age 8 to 80 years old were raped, and your race was Genetically Modified.
6 million Germans male was rounded up sent to Siberia, and never herd about half of them.
Can you afford for the second time?
Yes, plenty of peoples throughout history have lost wars then recovered and prospered, even defeated the ones they lost to previously, why should the Germans be any different?And also yes, there are casualties in war.Besides the ones who really defeated the Germans was the Soviets, so all Germany has to do is not attack the Russian Federation this time around, RF surely wouldn’t attack Germany preemptively so who would defeat Germany?USA,UK and France?lol
A real ‘stab in the back (dolchstosselegende)’ eh, Adolphonymous. Six million disappeared in Siberia? The ‘race Genetically Modified’. So, what are the Germans, now that they were ‘Modified’? Russians? Uzbeks? Aliens?
degenerate?
http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/09/a-german-ethics-committee-wants-to-legalise-incest-5288510/
Russia fails to deny US access to Syria.According to Syrian UN ambassador US occupies one third of Syria . Russia will not attack US inside Syria . Syria is only uninhabitable for Russia and Assad. Syria is very inhabitable for US allies. The claim that Russia would attack US forces outside Syria is false since Russia will not attack US Israeli forces inside Syria. There will never be mushroom clouds outside Syria because there are no mushroom clouds inside Syria,
As I suspected, the zionazis will try to make up for their inadequacies in the field with a propaganda blitz against independent websites.
People are here because they had hope there could be an alternative to the most evil empire that has ever existed – they are, I think, nearly 100% the exact opposite of zionazis..
Following the events, many are voicing their legitimate fear that there is now little or no hope.
However, while life continues, they will also continue to visit this site as it does have quality – just because you don’t appreciate their point of view doesn’t make it propaganda.
Your opinion is just that – we are all probably way beneath the pay grade that will ever let us know the full truth or, perhaps, even a small part of it.
As far as the “websayanim” stuf goes, please wind your neck in
A good number on this site have been dealing with propaganda for decades, by now we can spot propaganda effortlessly.Nice try.
“Following the events, many are voicing their legitimate fear that there is now little or no hope.”
You are inadvertantly correct. There is little or no hope for the zionazi delusion of greater israel. In fact, there is not much hope israel will be allowed feed off the rest of us and continue. :-D
Since the planet literally depends on this, this is a positive development. So, yeah, there is a whole lotta of hope, for those who are not part of the zionazi/nazi problem.
I also sense this is the next chess move. Blitz is the right term for what is coming. There is already a bill in CA to this effect.
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California Senator Richard Pan, the infamous fascist who forced a mandatory vaccination law through in order to rake in money from big pharma, has decided there should no longer be free speech for anyone other than the government. Pan’s new bill proposes to require “online fact checkers” to verify content before anything can be posted on the internet.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3408-new-california-bill-would-eliminate-free-speech-require-online-fact-checkers
A very good article:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/skripal-syria-empires-new-realities-are-reaching-end-road
After this, I believe sales of Russian surface-to-air missiles will be fine. Now we need an effort to increase sales of Russian anti-ship missiles.
LOL, Passerby. And cheers.
Two accounts of the attack, diametrically opposed to each other.
One side is lying, one is telling the truth, but which is which?
To accept the American account, you must believe
That only 3 targets were selected, no air fields among them,
and “•76 missiles fired at the “Barzah Research and Development Center”.
76 Missiles fired at a single target….150 million dollars on a single target.
I know which account seems more plausible to me.
Sorry, but when did the ‘Real Evil Empire’ not lie? The old Native American chief noted that every one of the Americans’ promises to the Native peoples was a lie-but one. When they promised to steal the land, they were not lying, but that was it. The exception that proved the rule.
Did the site of the false flag chemical attack get hit? I’m hoping not and that the evidence of it being staged has been prederved and is clear.
As a side note, if Russia has any evidence that could expose the truth behind 9-11 (or any other major “event”), now is the time to release it. Perhaps just wishful thinking on my part.
“…if Russia has any evidence that could expose the truth behind 9-11 (or any other major “event”), now is the time to release it.”
Wouldn’t that just be utterly delightful? I will never forget watching those horrible events live as they happened and hearing that little voice, totally unbidden by my utterly politically naive and unsuspicious mind, say “someday the truth about this will come out”.
It could hardly get better than today’s Russia having the answer!
Today’s Russia has not published the answer, but 18th century Russia holds the answer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village
This applies to the World Fake Center.
As in a magic trick, there are lots of distractions for you to focus on lest you check your fundamental assumptions, which are wrong.
9/11 has been solved for seven years (by Phil Jayhan and do2read) but nobody seems to care.
Was the World Trade Center Hollow, Empty, Gutted with no People on 9/11?
Dimitri Khalezov … a former officer of Soviet Nuclear Intelligence Department.
911 The Third Truth Dimitri Khalezov full version + AFR discussion at the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUnjbCxhXh4
Haha, unaccessible from Germany, for some reason … maybe to make it look more important. :)
But it is just another “nuke” disinfo, I can see that from the title from the preview picture (via AllTube), so it’s not worth my time downloading and watching. The title reads: “WTC nuclear demolition”. There is no such thing (because “nuke” = fake and fraud). One of the nutcase theories.
The truth is much more mundane, much less bombastic, and yet much more sophisticated.
The truth is that theories such as advanced in that video are part of the conspiracy. They’re a distraction for you to focus on lest you check your assumptions (WTC = 40,000 people office towers).
I’ve been to NYC in September 2000 and there was no street life around the WTC down to Battery Park, on a perfectly warm and sunny workday afternoon. I didn’t give it further thought back then, but when I read Jayhan/do2read 15 years later I understood it was because the towers were empty, apart from some tourists going to the panorama platform and the restaurant.
United Kingdom has supported the Ottoman Empire to keep Russia out of the Mediterranean. Russia claimed that her interest in the reign were mainly directed at protecting Orthodox Christians against the Muslim Turks. Britain feared that Russian domination of the Ottoman Turkey would threaten her imperial ambitions in the region. Britain and France sided with the Turks and the result was the Crimean War.
Britain’s new ships introduced in early 1900, the HMS Dreadnought, powered by burning oil to produce steam, changed the British imperial policy in the region. The oil was easily accessible however it was controlled by the Turks. Britain Promised the Arabs independence if they came on board to fight the Turks. Because of this promise the Arabs joined the British and expelled the Turks from the region.
While making promises to the Arabs the British and the French were meeting in secret and dividing the region into spheres of influence. After WWI this secret agreement (Sikes-Picot) Britain took control of Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Palestine, France took Syria and Lebanon and with it the oil resources. Arabs rebelled when they saw that they were lied to. Britain used Chemical weapons “to spread lively terror “as Churchill called the chemical attack in Iraq.
From 1920 to the present Britain and France were joined by USA as imperial powers in the Middle East. Any democracy that demanded self-rule in the Arab world was replaced by US backed regimes which were in most cases a brutal dictatorship.
So here we are back to Sikes-Picot agreements but now US has joined the other two liars France and Britain to continue the lies which the whole world can see.
Let us engage in science fiction. What if…
What if Russians managed to take control over ALL US/UK/FR missiles via EW systems. They remotely detonated some of them and send some of them to preplanned locations: abandoned buildings. later they fired some AA missiles in the air.
Then Rusians presented the outcome to US Army with an ultimatum:you will say what we wrote for you, or we will reveal the truth, namely, that your “state of the art” systems are compromised and useless. Here is the script. You will say, that some tomahawks was intercepted by S-200 and co., but some reached their targets. We even took photos for you.
US Army and US polititians had no choice, but to comply. But they lied even more: they told, that NO missile was intercepted.
This is SF, but it explaines some very weird facts on the ground and many narratives.
Let’s look at what happened here. No shock and was because Gerasimov et al visited Mattis and Dunford andtold them exactly what they knew and what would happen to certain US assets if the upcoming hissy fit got too out of hand. Professional military men of some seniority talking to counterparts who know who will do the bleeding and dying. The U.S and U.K have troops in exposed locations like Afghanistan who are supplied through Russia.What if that route dries up? Fancy a fighting withdrawal from Kabul? Last time tht happened only one man survived to tell the tale. One of the greatest disasters suffered by the British Army.
The U.S has troops onbases in Syria which couldbe neatly and simultaneously wiped out by Kaliber strikes fired from say the Caspian at four o’clock in the morning. That’s about 5000 gone in one fell swoop which is about the crewsize of a US carrier.
The Brits has SAS and some other chemical specialists among the special forces arrested in Douma. There are about 20 of these apparently. We are told a far larger number were lost through precision Russian Aviation strikes. This may explain why May is so rabidly Russophobic all of a sudden, as the public appearance of these in a Syrian military court with evidence would cause the fall of her government. Lavrov has already hinted about ‘parties from a Russophobic country’. I have no doubt frantic back channel negotiations are ongoing. There are reports of up to 2000 American advisers and contractors having been wiped out, so if that is the case then reality is starting to bite.
This morning over 100 cruise missiles of varying makes were loosed off and the majority were downed by Syrian Air defence. That hasn’t happened before. OK some buildings were hit but we are not hearing of hundreds of casualties. As soon as Russian fighters took to the skies the attack dried up.
Seen from a Syrian and Russian viewpoint the Empire has suffered hugely in the past several weeks with minimal losses on their side. Sufficient serious anti-aircraft and anti-ship rocketry exists in Syria to make further adventurism very costly indeed, and don’t underestimate the effect of some of the ECM gear available to the Russians plus their new Dagger missiles which could be the one-shot killer for an Aegis destroyer lying dead in the water. They can launch those from the Crimea or over the Black Sea they don’t have to haul down to Tartus to do it. Two of those would damage a large US carrier if it didn’t sink it and a carrier with a ten degree list cannot launch or land aircraft.
From where I’m sitting VVP and Mr. Lavrov have some very attractive options to exercise, which could be both greatly damaging and humiliating to the Empire, and I’m sure I’m not even scratching the surface. With the weaponry the Russians have at hand in eastern Med any naval ship acting offensively can be turned into a floating coffin in short order. All of this achieved at not a Russian life lost. Classic Sun Tzu. Do not disturb your enemy when he is busy making a mistake. The Anglo-Zionists have now exposed themselves to their respective public and the rest of the world. I’m thinking here of the botched Salisbury affair and how May talked us up to World War III. There are British local elections in May and the Tories may not do well. Revisiting the Cuba Missile Crisis has not boded well with the British public who can now clearly see the ineptitude of their lords and masters. Expect changes.
This whole affair has not gone to script. They can try something again, sure, but their MO is now plain to see and those of us called ‘conspiracy theorists’ are being proved right.
ned
I doubt that Russia would take out surface ships as it’s visible to the world and the FUKUS would have to respond. US and British boats are another matter – submarines are dangerous and “accidents” happen.
I’m glad that none of us is in charge of Russian forces in Syria! I think, to a man, we would have shot down planes and sunk ships, and today nukes would be flying, both east and west. Instead, no nukes are flying, the US Americans are bragging and gloating, and Russia is no doubt planning its moves well in advance, to counter the predictable indispensable.
It is very simple! Russia won whichever way you look at it, once again, without firing a single shot just like in Crimea. Assad is still there and appears to be stronger. Shortly after the bombing, the Syrian army command has announced that Eastern Ghouta is now free of the liver eaters. Russia got some much needed time for building up its strength and learnt even more about the “art” of reptilian tactics. After the US sunk 150 million $ into the sands of Syria all they got is a chest beating baboon and “mission accomplished” comedy. They got absolutely nothing in return – not even politically. Russia did not abandon Syria and did not back down.
Moreover, I’m blown away that some people are not appreciative of the fact that the life on the planet earth was preserved because of the truly astonishing wisdom of Russian leadership. Things could’ve been very different but Putin’s team did not blink and now we get to discuss the past, the now and the future.
The best way to understand the Americans is that, for them, reality itself no longer matters.
It doesn’t matter if America’s latest “mission accomplished” moment is worthy of the most ludicrous, CGI Hollywood spectacle nor that the pretext issue–the alleged chemical attack at Douma–is of dubious reality.
Indeed, the USA believes that they create reality itself.
This is quote from the Bush Regime era but it reflects the American mentality in general:
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Karl Rove’s Prophecy: “We’re an Empire Now, and When We Act, We Create our Own Reality”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/karl-roves-prophecy-were-an-empire-now-and-when-we-act-we-create-our-own-reality/5572533
Yes, this attitude is crazy with a capital C, but you are operating to the logic of what Karl Rove above dismissively called the reality-based community.
Further down this page, sherlock_holmes posted a link to a good ZH article, starting from precisely this phantastic and inspiring Karl Rove quote about creating realities:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/skripal-syria-empires-new-realities-are-reaching-end-road
We’re still seeing attempts to “create reality” even in the face of failures such as the recent missile attack on Syria, when it is said that “the Americans didn’t really intend to destroy anything” … Ah yes, so why did they launch 40 tons of precision guided explosives then?
Talking of reality, maniacs like that should get a reality check.
well, i am just an ordinary modern ‘slave’ working 9to5 just to keep a roof over my head & family fed…so don’t have much time to delve into” bad guy good guy geopolitics”, the only reason i do so, is to find out the future that my children have to face and inherit. What my experience has proved to me beyond doubt is ,don’t believe the main mass media as i have visited Irag, BEFORE & AFTER 9/11 ,have friends in libya BEFORE&AFTER ARAB SPRING, so the narrative did not run ‘true’ to what actually expired after the fact.So i get most of my food, for the sanity of my brain from selective alternate media.
every cloud has a silver lining , my ordinary brain can note the following changes .due to WEST’s moment of madness.
/..SYRIA and the ‘animal’ assad is safer than ever before, it won’t go the way of libya at least.Congrats.
/..’evil’ putin and russia may decide future of ROE in mena region.
/..the time has come for ‘evil’ iran and the only ‘democracy’ and ‘true ally’ of the exceptional hegemon to
to sit down at the humility table and arm wrestle, so the rest of the world can help them.Look at rocket
man!
Time will heal all wounds ,if the good people of this world ,smile just once a day at any of different background,
colour ,creed or race.
You judge the man by his actions and results not by blabber. What happened in Chechnya? What happened with Yukos Oil and Khodorskovsky? How did Georgia’s adventure end in 2006? Where did Crimea end up, in NATO or in Russia? Where is Syria now and where are John McCain headchopper buddies now? What happened after Turkey shot down a Russian jet? What is happening with Nordstream 2? I think it is getting its permits, yes? Where are the blackjack bombers sitting up now? I think they are in Iran. What does that tell you?
Last question, why were there 22 reduced to 8 targets including airports, command and control center and why did the list get even shorter to only 3 largely abandoned buildings? How do you square 76 TLAMs for hitting a single building? That must have been the mother of all buildings on earth!
Something very strange happened to short the list from 8 targets to just 3 targets by the next morning. I have my own theory but it is speculation. We may never know the truth. But Hegemon acknowledged that Russia is a superpower. It used to say that it was just a regional power or a gas station.
The Hegemon won’t try this trick again because the TLAMs is a disaster just like the F35 and the Patriot batteries. It is equally as ineffective as the Delilah cruise missile Israel launched last week if we are to believe that only 3 reached their objective and 5 were downed.
The dash to Iran has been postponed until they figure out a counter to the EW suites of the Russian and Iranian varieties.
We all survived because there was no escalation. Once the escalation route is taken the nuclear birds fly because it is use it or loose it.
The ABM was dealt a fatal blow on March 1st and now the TLAMs have been given a death blow twice. Do you understand what that means overall?
The brave child killers in Tel-a-Viv are starting to sweat:
“Israel fears Trump may see job as done in Syria, leave Israel alone to face Iran.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-fears-trump-may-see-job-as-done-in-syria-leave-israel-alone-to-face-iran/
Whatever happens, Russia must do what is necessary for Syria to have the weapons needed to fend of aggression from the war criminals who wants a defenseless Syria to prey on.
Israel, that bristles with all the latest weapons that US and German tax-payers money can buy, only use these weapons against the weak and vulnerable.
The Kremlin must cease taking counsel from the war criminals and cowards, who continue to demand that those who resist them be disarmed.
The next time Netanyahu asks to visit Moscow, he must be told that Putin is busy or arrangements made for some low-level personnel to meet with him.
Go forward, a clear message must be sent to Tel-a-Viv that there will be no return to the status quo.
They must have no more defenseless neighbors to prey on.
Incursions into Lebanese or Syrian air-space must no longer be come with impunity.
Let them be revealed for the abject cowards that they are!
Selah
Couldn’t agree more with ned, pdb and trh.
RF is the real winner here. Trump blinked. Those who really matter know that. VVP knows, Xi knows, May knows, Macron knows, the Dutch foreign minister visiting Moscow knows. Poroshenko knows, Netanyahu knows, Erdogan knows, bin Salman knows. And Mattis has unwittingly underlined that by saying that the attack is a one-off thing.
Back channels between Gerasimov and Mattis/Dunford must have been working overtime to ensure this silly and irresponsible adventure by the US and the ‘international community’ (read UK and France) didn’t get out of hand because these military men understand the situation — any hit on RF, or indeed significant Syrian, assets would have meant the gloves were off. It’s good to see the US taking pains to avoid ‘accidents’ involving Russian forces; it shows, for the moment at least, there are cooler heads in the ‘home of the brave’ and ‘the land of the free’. For a while there, there were some fears that the Americans had lost their marbles completely and that the world had inched that much closer to Armageddon.
The restraint shown by Russia in the face of the insults and provocations is remarkable. More than once VVP must have been sorely tempted, to use the language of the world’s top diplomat, to slap the Americans but VVP is wiser than his enemies put together. I am thankful to God that Vladimir Putin understands the power he yields and for his love for mankind. I am thankful that Putin has the strength of character to brush aside ill considered calls for retaliation from people who think that this titanic joust is akin to an MMA fight on TV.
basil
The reply from the Russians will be one that improves their strategic situation in Syria. Don’t expect a silly knee jerk tit for tat (I would love to see this because the neocons need boundaries but it does not seem to be the Russian way).
Many are saying that reply will come as an effort to take back Eastern syria due to troop build ups there and shipment of bridging devices.
There is another victory here. The Syrians demonstrates how robust some of the Russian air defenses are. Imagine if the S-300 and S-400 were used. That reality is going to influence decision makers in the US and EU militaries as this conflict goes forward. US hegemony relies heavily on weapons that can kill without putting US lives at risk. Cruise missiles have shown limited efficacy now.
Erdogan never seize to amaze me first he advocates the attack as a good lesson to Assad then he is on phone with Putin supporting Syria. One thing is clear unlike US all allies desert Putin when needed.
Erdogan is very Turkish, they do have a reputation for being two-faced after all.Due to Turkey’s geographic location – North-West of Turkey is the European world, North-East of Turkey is the Russian world, South-East of Turkey is the Muslim/Arab/Persian world, South-West of Turkey is the African world – so by necessity Turks have learned to balance/pit-against/negotiate and appease these various forces while ensuring their security and getting some benefits for Turkey.So Erdogan’s actions are hardly surprising.
Turkey will probably side with the side that’s winning/more powerful and have the most to offer them.The best course of action here would be for Russia and Iran(maybe China could help here?) to make it worth Turkey’s while to work with them and stand their ground against USA/UK.
Your final claim isn’t accurate, both Iran and China firmly supported Russia, Bolivia supported Russia at the UN.On the other hand most of USA ‘allies’ abandoned them, only UK and France agreed take part in the attack and even then only UK actually attacked – the two Anglo-imperialist nations left by themselves, not exactly what I would call a success story.
Erdogan never seizes to amaze me first he claims the attack as a good lesson to Assad then he is on phone with Putin supporting Syria. One thing is clear unlike US all allies desert Putin when needed.
After seeing and hearing what was done, we in Africa can agree with what Russia did. Why waste time defending Syria when the Syrian could defend themselves. Nobody really thought that Syria could shoot down the missiles or most of them. When we saw those forces massing in the Med, we thought, why send such a force against such a country. America should be able to hit Syria with a small force, just like Russia defended with a small force. Now we learn that even the big force was not able to scratch the Syrian military or Syrian state. We should not complain like donkeys. Syria did not need any help. America really is not a super power. Super powers don’t behave like this. Super powers don’t call weak France and Weak Britain to come and help defeat a weaker state. Russia did not win anything because it did not fight. But America lost. Now those soviet weapons I hope Russia still has them in stock. By the way people, American missiles are so large, and so slow, that one can shoot it down with an AK.
Hearts and minds of Germans was won in 1933 a mentally sick WW1 veteran and his message ( he wasn’t front line soldier, in fact he was “rear area pig”, Etappenschweinen who fooled millions of Germans to think he had been frontline combat soldier).
Now we have to once again think about how to handle brainwashed people dominated by warmongers. Talking with them? Making concessions. Diplomacy? I’m afraid this all is waste of time and even dangerous. So is military punishment making them lick their own blood necessary? Perhaps not. Think about what’s dear to whole western ruling class. Military? No. Democracy? No. Money – YES.
This problem will be solved by decimating western economic dominance. And in fact this is what we are seeing every day. According to figures of World Bank, IMF etc hardly more than 33% of world’s GDP-PPP is USA/EU. And that share is shrinking every year. Translatlantic dominance is really over. MSM just haven’t realized it. They won’t tell it to public before it’s too late. This warmongering period is based on angry of Empire. They know their time is over.