by Jack J.
The British establishment have suffered two serious setbacks in rapid succession: The Tories have lost both of their leading figures, caused economic turmoil and empowered secessionist forces in Scotland, whilst the genuinely anti-establishment Leader of the opposition has been massively strengthened through a botched coup attempt.
During the 2015 General Election Cameron promised a referendum ‘on Europe’ to the British electorate, and won a slim majority through doing so. The defeat threw Labour into crisis and the feckless Miliband stepped down, triggering an election for a new leader of the Labour Party. Labour were in such disarray, that somehow a ‘Real Left’ MP (Jeremy Corbyn) was able to gain the backing of the 35 MPs needed to get on the ballot. (In both previous elections for leader John McDonnell [The Real Left candidate at the time] was denied such support, despite, or rather because, his politics resonated strongly with both the Unions and the Members.) With a Real Left candidate to vote for it was no real surprise that Corbyn went onto win, despite what the MSM were spewing at the time, but what was remarkable was both the margin of his victory (59%) and the surge in membership, both before and after (approx. 150,000). Thus the Labour Party membership gained a Leader who represented their views for the first time since Blair took over.
Despite receiving an absolute mauling from the MSM, Corbyn went on to win by-election after by-election with increased majorities, and then won the Local elections in May (which included various Mayoral contests, some by-elections and the Welsh Assembly and the Scottish Parliament). These victories denied the prospective ChickenCoupers the pretext they needed to launch their coup, so instead they were forced to wait until after Brexit Referendum.
Corbyn, a life-long euro-sceptic, was forced to campaign for Remain to maintain party unity, and as much distance from the likes of Johnson and Farage as possible. None-the-less, he refused to share a platform with Cameron and his fear-mongering, opting instead for a ‘sceptical Remain’: ‘pro-EU but not as it stands’. Effectively, Corbyn positioned himself, and Labour, so as not to side with either Johnson or Cameron. The 172 used this to declare his Remain campaign a failure and launched their ill-fated coup, with full backing of the MSM.
ChickenCoup Fallout:
- Corbyn has come out of this ‘smelling of roses’: calm, cool, thick-skinned, measured, magnanimous and looking like a leader, even reported as ‘looking like a Prime Minister’ in the Independent.
- The Real Left massively strengthened: new progressive Shadow Cabinet, an extra 200,000 (yes, 200,000!) Labour Party Members, and momentum has reported a 100% increase in membership.
- 10,000 people turned out at Parliament Square with 24 hours’ notice to back Corbyn and 250,000 people signed a petition to do so.
- The Unions and the CLPs are over-whelming defending Corbyn.
- The 172 Right-wing Labour MPs are weakened, discredited and facing de-selection.
- Tom Watson, the Deputy Leader, put himself in the firing-line through his participation in the ChickenCoup.
- Kezia Dugdale, the Scottish Leader, has lost face as a majority MSPs have come out for Corbyn contrary to her snipes.
Brexit Fallout:
- Cameron and Johnson, and their associates, ran awful fear-based campaigns that disgusted the electorate.
- Cameron lost and is stepping down soon.
- Johnson won, accidentally, and then bottled running for Leader, realising the impossible predicament he would find himself in if he won.
- Teresa May now looks likely to be next Prime Minister.
- SNP and the prospects for Independence have been massively strengthened: Scotland now has a Foreign Policy, polls are showing around 60% in favour of INDE., the SNP have legitimate cause for INDE. Ref II, and have reported a membership surge.
- Northern Ireland has been ‘destabilized’.
- The UK Economy has suffered, as has Europe’s.
- The future of the EU is in jeopardy.
The Tories now have a choice between equally horrific and uncharismatic leaders, face a deteriorating economy, a difficult divorce from the EU and Scottish succession; all of which is very obviously and publicly problems of their own creation. On top of that, all the nasty things they have done to everybody really are starting to hit home. There is no way they can relish the prospect of taking on Corbyn, and Sturgeon, under these circumstances, but they have a slim majority and a Prime Minister with no legitimacy. From Right to Left, Young to Old, Destitute to Reasonably well-off, everyone is very upset, and with each passing week the opposition, both North and South of Hadrian’s wall, grows stronger.
Some Links:
For the first time this week, Jeremy Corbyn looked like a Prime Minister, Faduma Hassan, Independent. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-prime-minister-iraq-war-chilcot-inquiry-labour-party-mps-coup-a7125311.html
Anatomy of a Failed Coup in the UK Labour Party, Richard Seymour, Telesur, http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Anatomy-of-a-Failed-Coup-in-the-UK-Labour-Party-20160707-0009.html
Tory Activists stage ‘painfully embarrassing’ march on Parliament in support of Andrea Leadsom, Tom Marshall, The Evening Standard. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-activists-stage-painfully-embarrassing-march-on-parliament-in-support-of-andrea-leadsom-a3290256.html
Your Next Prime Minister, Mike Small, Bella Caledonia, http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2016/07/01/your-next-prime-minister/
I don’t lean socialist myself but Corbyn does seem genuine when compared to the rest of them. Whatever anyone’s disposition better to come from an honest place then a false one. It allows for compromises that benefit everyone.
Exactly.
I like the way the writer has ignored everything I have read about Corbyn post Brexit. About how weak he has been and in contrast to May (strong for not having tied herself too strongly to remain) how shameful and damaging to himself was his half-hearted defence of remain.
Truth is all the old Blarites have resigned and the party membership, is 50% more pro-Corbyn than before.
These new members as he suggests are really old members, driven out by disgust for Blairism.
@ Diaspora_M:
I forgot to hit the ‘Reply’ button :(
So, you’ll have scroll down for my answer to your post. (Sorry folks)
-TL2Q
Well TL… I always consider the axiom… If the right people hate you then you must be doing something right.
If the intervention happy Blairites hate and oppose him… How bad could he be?
The exits epidemic – the US empire must be furious
http://bit.ly/29dnhrb
Notwithstanding all the other legal machinations, there’s some 3-month ‘delay’ here written about while the Brits change the gov based on Camoron’s resignation.
That they then must, unless it’s a timeout limit, invoke that Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to even commence withdrawal plans.
Very convenient for them to have to do nothing, since note that several huge European banks are 1 step away on death watch from putting the second foot in the grave (Deutschebank, Bank Monte Italy, & almost certainly at least 1 or 2 of the big French banks.)
We gots coming here very shortly:
July 12 The Hague ruling on South China Sea ‘property claims’.
July 14 Frenchie Bastille Day
July 26-27 FED Meeting last one b4 autumn (Sep 20-21), BUT even more significant, it’s BOTH anniversary dates of 2 enormous historical incidents! to whit:
July 26/1956 60-years ago Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.
July 27/1694 really really big bankster date in history, so it’ll be #322.
Rubbish from beginning to end.
I agree – a very poor article. Why would Scots vote to be a vassal state in a collapsing and viciously anti-democratic EU?
A lot of waking up has happened in Scotland since the Scottish independence referendum in 2014. A million of us voted to get out of the EU in the recent referendum representing 40% of the voters yet we have not one pro-leave voice in our Scottish Parliament.
Brussels isn’t the only place with a democratic deficit it seems.
The SNP’s “plan” under “independence comprises borrowing to the max from the global bankers. Shades of Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal anyone? Ah the payback and the terms of payback and the theft of the county’s resources . . .
The draconian labour laws recently rammed through in France causing strikes and protests are the opening salvo in a war on working people the banker controlled EU demands. The IMF even want the minimum wage in Greece slashed even further.
One could write chapters about the corporate fascism and total poverty that’s all the EU offers, something, by the way, the left completely ignores.
I wonder why..
Scratch a lefty and you find a globalist.
The author fails to mention how the UK Brexit vote has energised many Europeans to seek to regain control over their countries.
Watch closely. We have kicked open the door. More will follow.
For millions of European people the EU has become a trap and a nightmare.
The author says the Tory gov have no legitimacy. This is simply not true. I don’t vote Tory but they won the general election in 2015 and can change leaders mid term if they wish. Labour changed leaders mid term didn’t they?
The attempt by ordinary British people to re-establish some democratic control over their lives – and I accept that it’s only a small step in the right direction – seems to have triggered a tidal wave of fear porn such as this and in Britain the corporate media have decided that all and any bad news must be blamed on Brexit.
Just calm down, it’s all going to be fine,- bumpy road ahead notwithstanding.- except for the poor trapped Eurozone countries who could be faced with a new bail out demand from their insolvent banks. Check out what Zero Hedge are saying about the Italian and German banks
And if the author is a Corbyn fan then a Labour government in 2020 will have far more leeway to introduce it’s “fairer society” policies outside the EU than in it. Unfortunately for Mr Corbyn apart from himself and McDonell the rest the MPs seem to be far right neocons.
In my humble opinion the EU superstate project is finished. Let’s hope so.
It was run by the USA anyway.
The Tories won Government in the UK on 36% of a 65% turn-out, ie 24% of the electorate, not even the population. A farce dubbed by the Tory MSM lie-machine a ‘landslide’.
The Brits need Chilcot redux – Cameron and Libya/Syria/ISIS.
omgg regime change and balkanisation, just what they’ve always wanted. Go the new weight loss Britain there’s life in the old girl yet….and here i thought you lot were forever goners after Thatcher-the-sociopath.
Yay Corbyn, take British brains & make the Brits the new B in the BRICS….and not one bomb nor missile nor nato-terrorist nor nuke fired, not one lost soul. We’ve always wanted a peaceful revolution….imagine John Lennon;)
Thanks for this encouraging report. However, not being knowledgeable about what’s really going on, I remain skeptical, especially upon learning that Corbyn wanted to Remain (although with reservations).
It seems that ordinary people are on the move; which means that the exceptional ones will pull out their heavy guns. It “remains” to be seen if the people have the where-with-all to “exit” the system; or whether they will do the Corbyn compromise (a possibly fatal move).
@ Dennis:
I appreciate your honest admission about lack of in-depth knowledge about the issue at hand. But, believe it or not, your comment is mostly, bang-on-money.
One tiny correction though.., “the people” (particularly those who voted to leave the EU) are getting angrier and angrier, especially at the internal party/parties bickering that’s happening right now, and the delays this brings.
Most of them; they just want Article 50 triggered, like, yesterday! And they’re not seeing that…
-TL2Q
“Chilcot, Israel and the Lobby”
By Gilad Atzmon
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/7/7/chilcot-israel-and-the-lobby
Regards,
Carmel by the Sea
Atzmon also has written a lot about ‘anti-semitic’ purges in the Labour party after Corbyn took over and how Corbyn (according to Atzmon) gave in to the zionists.
Yes, Anon, quite right you are. IMO…who better than an former Jew and former Israeli like Gilad Atzmon would know the nefarious methods of the stranglehold the Zionist Jews & World Jewry whom post support Israel and whose loyalty is first for Israel, have on the world.
A diplomatic cable from 2009, leaked by wikileaks, makes clear that the fix was in regards Chilcot from the beginning. The’ interests to be protected’ in this instance were the US but that certainly encompasses the interests of Israel.
Scroll down to the relevant highlighted section:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09LONDON2198_a.html#efmCHdCMm
The Israel First Lobby despise Corbyn. Hence the vicious campaign of slander and vilification, entirely false and malicious, against Corbyn and Labour as ‘antisemitic’. This of course, these days, means not automatically falling to your knees and groveling before their power and magnificence, but used against Corbyn, a life-long opponent of racism in all its forms, it is a poisonous disgrace.
But it is their favourite weapon, usually guaranteed to end any public career in the West stone dead, no matter how false the accusation. And with 100% support from the Western MSM, where Jewish control, in ownership and personnel is great,(but always flatly denied) it is the first resort when some insubordination from the lower ranks draws their attention.
The leading anti-Corbyn Blairites, from the odious Hillery Benn down even deeper, are well-trained Sabbat Goyim ‘Friends of Israel’, like Blairzebub himself. His rich rewards for ‘services rendered’ after resignation are, no doubt, alluring. What’s worse, Corbyn has dared treat the Palestinians as human beings, and the Israel Firsters, having totally captured all Western polities, are not about to surrender the UK. If Corbyn survives the Blairite putsch, I fear for his safety. No doubt some Kidon team is already preparing, and UK sayanim being mobilised to assist.
Those rich rewards are reported to be £60 million, as a Peace Envoy in the Middle East!
What a great job the boy Blair has done for his money.
There are a couple of points on this I wonder about. First,Parliament has announced there will be no 2nd referendum.
But more important by far is the 2nd point. Does England (and Wales) want to keep the UK or not. If they (who together make up around 80% of the population of the UK) do want to keep Scotland and Northern Ireland in the UK they have ways to do that. But if they don’t really care,then it may split up. With Northern Ireland I think the “tried and true” method of appealing to the Protestant majority will be their method. Northern Ireland would seriously be unable to survive long as an “independent” state. Meaning they would be forced to reunite with the Republic of Ireland (anathema to the Prods) or try to join with Scotland ,very highly unlikely, to appeal to the huge Catholic minority. Why would they agree to unite with another Protestant (and poorer) non-Irish state.It they are going to be ruled by non-Irish elements at least the British are richer. As for Scotland nothing has “really” changed from the other referendum. London still controls the pocket book. And Scotland has been told by the EU if they secede from the UK they won’t be automatically offered entry in the EU. And even “if” they did get to join the EU. They wouldn’t get the amounts of money they do from being a part of the UK .If the British wanted to play “hardball” they could really harm Scotland’s economy.So mainly I see that as a case of the British needing to decide whether or not they “want” the UK to remain as a united state or not.
Catholics are no longer a minority in NI. Now 51%.
“There are lies, dam lies and statistics…”
I would not hold your breath anytime soon about Northern Ireland leaving the UK.
We may have voted in a small majority to remain within the EU but ask the same question about leaving the UK and thus a united-Ireland, (historically it was NEVER one country), and you will see a large result to remain under British authority.
I would actually like to see a poll on a united-Ireland carried out now just to see the disappointment on Irish republican faces…!
Saker & crew, thanks for bringing Corbyn and Brexit into the Vineyard. This was a useful history, I didn’t know that Cameron came in on the promise of a referendum – careful what you promise, Dodgy Dave, because the people were ready for a long time to vote this way.
Corbyn. I have this picture of him meeting with Putin. Two authentic men, engrossed in real conversation about all the things that matter in this world and in this life. I have this hope that we the disenfranchised can find our hope expanded by a new man come quietly upon the scene, as the future unfolds.
He speaks very softly, but I know the English culture quite intimately, and I can see that for an English man he is very forthright. It’s a strain, you know, to lift up the eyes and face forward if you’re English – because everything is brilliantly done through intuition, and so the body language is deliberately indirect.
So Corbyn is like water coming to the boil – you could watch it, or simply do other things while it comes to the boil. But the scalding will hurt just as badly, either way.
I understand his position on Brexit. I guess the English people do too, and regard it as a mark of responsibility. I hope he will be Labour’s next Prime Minister. The Tory neoliberal, Theresa May, will succeed Cameron in office until the next elections. By then, from natural brutishness but also and especially from trying to emulate Thatcher, she will have driven the country away from Conservative rule in total disgust, for some time. Because now there is an alternative.
If Putin meets Corbyn, he will meet a fellow honest man. When Putin meets any other Western leader, he meets a liar, a slave of the USA and Israel, and an individual utterly untrustworthy. The parade of psychotic droolers at the NATO Summit in Warsaw was horrifyingly laughable.
Thank you Grieved, I totally agree with you about both Corbyn and May.
I think (and hope) you are right about May, and how she will put people off the Conservative party. We will also see how she will deal with the Brexit – this alone may anger many people – Conservative included. Because regardless of what some say about Brexit (that it was the “working class vote”), Brexit had the strongest support in counties like Kent – which are strongly conservative. So, the conservative voters will want to see their will acted upon. If she starts messing about in the negotiations with the EU, she is going to be finished very quickly. Which also shows how clever Boris Johnson is NOT to take the PM job at this time.
I also hope that the grassroot movement of people will not let the Blairites to remove Corbyn.
Thanks for presenting a brief and cogent write-up.
Wish Corbyn, a life-long euro-skeptic, all success as the next Prime Minister of UK (or England-Welsh, if Scotland and Northern Ireland secede).
More importantly, Corbyn should create and implement policies in the country towards resolving the day-to-day problems of 90% plebian.
All good points to which should be added that since the Scottish referendum the North Sea Oil industry is in serious financial difficulty. The idea of ‘Scottish oil’ under pinned much of the independence vote in the Scottish referendum. In addition, would the idea of Scottish independence survive a referendum campaign to give up Scottish independence to the totally undemocratic EU, which will not be allowed to accept Scotland anyway them because of separatist fears of member states notably Spain?
Note that it is the government not parliament that has announced that there will not be a second referendum, because they say MPs voted overwhelmingly for the first one so they should accept the result, which is a fair point. The real reason there will not be a second referendum is because the Conservative government dare not risk another campaign, which would be held against the background of huge problems in the Eurozone (Italian and possibly German banking crisis plus more Greek mayhem) and might split the Conservative party permanently. Equally the government knows very well that the present disarray is temporary owing to the current vacuum of power at Westminster and that they only managed to keep the Brexit majority down to 2% by grossly exaggerated prophecies of economic doom. Once the British get over their fear of ‘the unknown’ and realise that it is not the end of the financial world as we know it and start to understand the strength of the UK government’s economic negotiating position and the political and financial shambles that is the EU, they will think themselves lucky to have seized the opportunity to escape from Brussels. No one, certainly not Ukip, wants to abandon good close relations with Europe in the wider sense.
From an EU perspective some members particularly France will not be sorry to see the UK leave. For all sorts of reasons, it will simplify their position and in particular greatly reduce US access to decision making. It will make an EU military force more likely, which is a French objective. It will be one less neoliberal voice in the EU putting the reduction of deficits ahead of the reduction of unemployment, a French and Italian objective. Equally the EU is beginning to realise that it is already notorious for ignoring the results of referenda, which hardly sits well with its constant preaching to all and sundry about ‘our values’ and democracy. To be seen to seek to overturn Brexit might be too expensive politically – the inevitable acid comments from Putin and the Chinese hardly bear thinking about.
Thank you Jack J.
Just a couple of things to add to the chicken coup fall out. It seems the leadership challenge by Angela Eagle is going ahead now and Tom Watson has shown his true colours:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682749/Sabotage-storm-Eagle-launches-Corbyn-challenge-Labour-s-civil-war-deepens-peace-talks-union-leaders-collapse.html
According to the article – the Blairites are going to try and use the 51 MP’s must support Corbyn in order for him to stand for leader proposition – hmm…..Isn’t he the leader and therfore stands automatically? some would rather rip a party apart….than leave their comfortable jobs…..interesting times ahead. Time to deselect the traitors in the party and take it back – I would humbly suggest.
I have to say the media have been appalling in their treatment of Corbyn – but we all know who controls the MSM. Meanwhile this all just hepls the Torys……what a distraction.
Looks like Ireland is now mulling leaving the EU:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160711/1042744798/ireland-brexit-europe-juncker-kenny.html
“The country is now a net contributor to the political-economic union and if the European Commission has its way the country’s economic well-being may depend on them leaving Europe altogether………..”
One of Boris Johnsons most bizarre and sinister actions as mayor of London was the acquisition of water cannons for the use of the Metropolitan Police when even the cops themselves said they didn’t want them. This led to Teresa Mays crack “the last time Boris negotiated with Germany he came back with three secondhand water cannons” a one punch knockout on his leadership bid. Good that he’s the only person these things have been used on. So far.
The water cannon are up for re-sale as we speak, though who would buy is anyone’s guess.
Bye bye, Boris the Buffoon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTMVUWHPxk4
@ Helen:
“Bye bye, Boris the Buffoon”
^ LoL!
Why am I laughing? Because as charming/charismatic as Boris may be, it’s darn obvious he was never serious about the issues.
On top of that, he kindda exposed himself as being a push-over, he got bullied into silence [more than once, btw] by this crusty, old no-body on Brexit debates:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01521/DavidDimbleby_1521786c.jpg
Seriously, this Dimbleby non-entity, treated Boris with such contempt (almost like he was an unruly child needing to be reigned on. I wish I was kidding… btw), and I’m saying that as a Boris non-fan! It was cringeworthy to watch, let me tell ya.
-TL2Q
Now its bye, bye Cameron as Leadsom drops out and Prime Minister May takes over tomorrow.
Some good news however, David Davis has tabled a motion, supported by Corbyn and the SNP, to impeach Blair.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3683113/Tony-Blair-faces-KICKED-privy-council-Iraq-war-Jeremy-Corbyn-backs-cross-party-contempt-vote-House-Commons.html
And everyone and his aunt is looking for ways to charge Blair with some kind of war crime, ‘pillage’ being the latest:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/11/tony-blair-prosecution-war-crimes-hague-geneva-pillage-economy-iraq-chilcot
To top off the farce, Blair has declared his support for Angela Eagle, the challenger to Corbyn, surely the kiss of death for her ambitions.
Thanks for the information about David Davis et al.
So glad he is doing this. I was actually thinking about the speed with which May is going to become PM. Last week Cameron stated that 2 days would be dedicated to the Chilcot report this week. Will this happen now or is it going to be about a new PM? Distractions etc.
I think Cameron was caught on the hop today – she is supposed to be installed by Wednesday evening. He hasn’t even had time to pack up at number 10.
Now David D is doing this I feel some relief that Blair is not going to get away with it. Hopefully. It will also stop other MP’s from committing to these illegal wars in future or face the same fate.
Lo and behold Darth Eagle (who has zero charisma or leadership qualities – came 4th in Deputy leadership elections last year) decides to run a leadership challenge (with the above comment I made yesterday) – stating how they are going to try and keep JC off the ballot. I am very pleased Blair has publicly backed her – this will damage her no end! Plus she voted for the Iraq war to boot.
Time for the Labour party to go back to its roots and all these Blairites can leave and set up a new party or join Lib/Dems or Cons…….
OT but interesting:
One of the ongoing court sessions looking into the events at the Maidan, specifically the so-called ‘Berkut snipers’, has revealed some significant information. A ballistics report was read out relating to the weapon used to kill Victor Chmilenko, caught on film by a French photographer. Balisstics test show the weapon used fired a 30-06 Springfield bullet. They are an American product for rifles used for hunting and target shooting. These are not used by Berkut or any other Ukraine police / military outfit.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2838993.html
Let’s carve Europe into regions, so that we can rule ’em into the New World Order.
Nothing happens by sheer mistakes.
Corbyn is a joke and a sell out. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn supports EU is another sign of his dishonesty and pseudo-leftist credentials. He is by no means an anti-establishment leader.
By remaining into EU, it is impossible to reverse neoliberalism as all these neoliberal policies are embedded into the EU treaties (Maastricht, Lisbon etc ).
Even if UK withdraws from EU but wants to participate in the EU single market, UK is obliged to follow the four freedoms. UK would continue it’s neoliberal policies as long as it is totally integrated into the globalist economy.
EU is the main tool for the promotion of neoliberal globalization. EU’s 4 freedoms quarantee the free movement of capital, labour, services and goods into EU member states. This is the essence of globalization.
1) Millions of Cheap migrants move from low income to higher income countries, depressing the wages in the more advanced economies.
2) Multinational corporations are free to operate and sell their products at all markets, destroying local businesses. No tariffs are allowed. Countries with a lower level of development are doomed as they lose their labour force from emigration and their industry is being destroyed.
3) The multinational corporations and the super rich are free to move their capital and money wherever and whenever they like. There is no way to properly tax them.
If you want to see the future of Corbyn ,
, just look at the Greek Corbyn. Greek PM Alexis Tsipras was described as a “radical left” politician. He was
elected on a pro EU populist leftist platform that he will reform EU (as corbyn claims) and stopping austerity .
None of those was possible to happen, even though the public believed these fairy tales through the mass media propaganda.
The result is that the “leftist” Tsipras, has now agreed to implement policies that are far worse than Thatcherism.
Brutal cuts on peoples pensions and wages, massive privatisation of public assets etc.
Tsipras claims that he is doing it for the sake of preserving EU unity and remaining into EU.
And it is true that there is no alternative inside EU, as neoliberalism has been institutionalized into the legal framework. With the way the global economy functions, it is impossible to reverse the neoliberal path.
Only by breaking connection with the NWO (and it’s institutions EU, EURO, IMF , WTO, WORLD BANK etc ) and reclaiming sovereignty , it would be possible for other policies to be implemented.
@ Diaspora_M:
“I don’t lean socialist myself but Corbyn does seem genuine when compared to the rest of them [..]”
You ain’t wrong on that! The guy is a freakin’ saint compared to the brain-eating zombies that populate West Minister. And I’m saying that as 1- a Socialist and 2- someone who can’t trust Corbyn 100%.
Because… he made too many compromises since he got elected as leader. All compromises he made were in favor of neo-liberal policies, btw.
He’s still sticking by at least two of his principles: Anti-Austerity (Good – Austerity hurts the poor) and Climate Change (Bad: since most Climate Change policies tend to hit the poor disproportionately more than anyone else [examples: higher energy bills, expensive light bulbs [and other vital home appliances] higher prices for transport – public or otherwise, regressive Carbon Taxes… should I go on?).
What Corbyn is truly made-of, still remains to be seen. Yet, I continue to be more than willing to give him a chance, but one chance – and one chance only – is all he’ll get from me :/
As I said before, since the scavengers are circling on him, we’ll find out sooner rather than later if “he’s all that,” or not.
Meanwhile; I still want him as a Labour Leader, because whether intentionally or not, he’s doing a brilliant job at shinning a bright light on the treasonous Blairites cockroaches that infect his party.
If only because of that, I want him to stay firmly put where he is at.
-TL2Q
“he made too many compromises since he got elected as leader. All compromises he made were in favor of neo-liberal policies, btw. He’s still sticking by at least two of his principles: Anti-Austerity (Good – Austerity hurts the poor) and Climate Change”
The greek prime minister Tsipras had the same idiotic rhetoric as Corbyn’s.
Remaining and reforming (!?) the EU, stopping austerity, investing in green economy etc.
The “leftist” Tsipras is now implementing worse policies than those of Margaret Thatcher’s government. There is no alternative but neoliberalism for an economy integrating in EU and the globalist economy.
Austerity is not the cause of the problem, it is just a symptom of the disease that is neoliberal globalisation.
How exactly will Corbyn implement his anti-austerity policies ?
Within EU’s legal framework, it is impossible to nationalise the public utilities, the transportation network or the energy corporations. Even if UK leaves EU but still participates in the EU single market, most of the EU mechanisms and legal framework will still be implemented.
Then lets suppose that Corbyn tries to raise taxes against the rich and the Multinational corporations. The rich will leave Britain en masse and both the pound value and the London stock Exchange will plummet. Because of the free capital movement, the Multinational corporations are free to relocate to various tax havens and Third World low tax countries.
Therefore, the only solution is to reclaim national and economic sovereignty from supranational and globalist institutions. Russia tries to do that, and thats a reason for its conflict with the West.
The probability that Britain will ever disconnect from the globalist economy is extremely low. Its political and business elites are active supporters of the globalisation process and there are very strong economic interests for Britain to remain an active member of the neoliberal globalised economy.
Granted, it is indeed fascinating to watch the marvels of serious ruling class squabbling, fissures, and plain incompetence/ineptitude. The EU is such an abomination that it’s impossible to pretend otherwise, at least as far as Western Europe is concerned (Eastern Europe still has some die-hard, ardent bootlickers, but this pesky Brexit thing has dented their romantic notion of “Western indivisibility”).
However, as long as focus is kept on the abysmal failure which is the EU, Corbyn won’t face any serious reactionary intimidation/coercion by imperialism. Unlike in the Ukraine, the EU isn’t really worth a Maidan in any part of the British Establishment, let alone British society at large.
Bottom line: To escalate things to really dangerous levels, NATO — alongside the EU — should be singled out as the enemy. It is the armed wing of imperialism that matters the most. Add to this substantial cooperation and political support of Russia internationally. That would make the Zionazis explode with rage and anguish.
There’s two things the Brits should do: Get out of Nato, and the Republic. Probably not in that order.
[Still Brexit related]
Penned by the man himself (he’s backing Leadsom), and I can’t believe, for once I’ll be recommending you guys to actually read a DailyMail article (LoL!).
Well… we’re living in strange times, aren’t we ;-)
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NIGEL FARAGE: May’s so cold she might be alabaster and she doesn’t have the courage to claw back control of our territorial waters
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3682601/NIGEL-FARAGE-Theresa-s-cold-alabaster.html
-TL2Q
good article but one thing missing.
the man who led the drive for thereferendum
was championed for 20 years by the man
who took all the slings and arrows of
intentional outrageous fortune even
being ‘marginalized’ by the ”official”
leave campaigners – all tory.
where was the mention of NIGEL FARAGE?
@ oldnik007
“[..] where was the mention of NIGEL FARAGE?”
True, true…
…but to be fair, the article was written by Farage, it wouldn’t be in very good taste for him to be going on and on about himself, would it? ;-)
-TL2Q
s9 Jack J is a psuedenim for farage?
@ oldnik007:
Oh! I see! Now I get you!!
Me? I was just commenting on the Farage’s article I linked, you on the other hand, were commenting on this OP’s Jack J article.
We got our wires crossed there. No biggie, it happens.
But, yeah I agree, writing an article about Brexit and not mentioning Farage’s role on it from its very inception (something like, 16 years in the making), is like writing a book about WWII and pretend Russia wasn’t even part of it (let alone saying that they were the true victors of that war – and they were, btw!).
Up is down, white is black, night is day…
Welcome to this Orwell’s dystopian nightmare, oldnik007 :(
-TL2Q
nigel’s face on a £20 note!
many congratulations
All Westminster parties are in the pockets of the bankers, Corbyn as much as Cameron.
Labour lost all credibility when it turned its back on the white working class and promoted the multicultural scam which made the rich richer and the poor destitute.
And just incase the poor thought they had a chance with the Tories, they have been annihilated by a series of financial penalties designed by Mark Carney which messenger Osborne has supplied Cameron the warmonger (illegal attack on Libya according to the law established at Neuremburg).
The white poor were destroyed by Labour and cut to the bone by the merciless Tories.
The political side show is to allow investors to take their profits without the public realising. A crashing pound down against almost all currencies is making the rich even richer still.
Mark Carney ex Cyprus rapist of Goldman Sachs is letting Rothschild and co make a few hundred billion more on currency manipulation.
What we need is a coalition government that says that’s it, we are out of the EU and now you traitorous EU crooks can get lost! Maybe followed by a straight finger salute.
Of course, the reality is that the elites, Rothschild et al, have decided to leave the sinking EU ship while they still can.
The indigenous poor will still be poor and the 1% will be even richer and for a couple more years the British Nationalist will be assuaged. But they will come back with a vengeance sooner rather than later once they realise they have been ‘right royally’ conned yet again.
You might notice a small amount of editing Mr. Cley. Please don’t use ad hominen attacks, stick to critiquing the comments and content only, OK? mod-on-duty
Dear Moderator On Duty,
Thanks for your comments. I have done your job and know how arduous and frustrating it can be.
I will bear your advice in mind.
In future, should you not approve of any of my posts, if you prefer, do not post it at all. I won’t take offence.
Thank you for your help.
R. Cley.
I know it sounds far fetched, but I think Brexit was planned the way it turned out. There are good reasons for my position. The City of London is the only thing keeping the UK going. Cameron wanted an EU veto on financial regulation, I picked this up on Craig Murray’s site. Forget the better deal, this was a cover for the hoped veto, but the veto was never on offer. Cameron and the corrupt English establishment are desperate to protect the global money laundering operation that in the City of London. Only by being outside the EU can this continue.
The UK is technically bankrupt and its primary banks are bust, they were bust before Brexit, but now they are very bust. These banks have off balance sheet accounts which are supposed to be assets. these assets are debts and they remain hidden off the books, because they are only worth a few pence on the pound. This is why these bust banks can’t be publicly split, so have been internally split in some cases.
The English elite have dumped the UK out of the EU so they can CAPITALISE the Chinese markets to their full criminal potential…it couldn’t have happened if we remained in the EU.
The English elite don’t care about the regular UK economy. In fact they probably want it to suffer. This will make it easier to strip out protections, even the minimum wage. Unlikely Tory leader Andrea Leadsom wants small businesses (the biggest employer group) to be free from ALL employment regulation. The idea is to turn the UK (England) into a jungle economy, better known as a tiger economy, of course, this bottom chasing policy is doomed against the huge Asian markets, but it will make it easier to control the sheeple.
Where does Corbyn fit in? Difficult to say. I find it hard to believe this guy sat on the back benches relatively quiet until he was drafted in to play his part in the NWO script. Corbyn is 67yo, he will be 71 at the next GE unless called earlier. Is Corbyn just an establishment filler?
I don’t think the ‘establishment’ has suffered any blows at all. The players who appear to have lost out are all very wealthy and they are very well connected.
I am pro EU for a simple reason, the corrupt EU is preferable to the even more corrupt UK elite.
two corrupt institutions do not make an un-corrupted one..
regarding your ideas about the city, i remember osborne
rushing over to brussels (allegedly) to prevent the EU’s
idea of capping bankers bonuses.
An interesting British story on RT today. It seems the British government forbids its military to “comment” on the Chilcot report. They are “concerned” it would harm morale among the soldiers. As if they think the soldiers don’t already know about the report. And their morale isn’t already affected.By knowing they were “cannon fodder” and mercenary killers in an illegal war. Which brings up the other point in the story. The report deliberately avoided any investigation of the “legality” of the war. And how and when its was wrongly deemed as legal in the first place. That seems to have been after 37 independent experts they asked told them it was “illegal”.
https://www.rt.com/uk/350632-military-gagged-chilcot-iraq/
I posted this elsewhere on the site, an ex-squaddie speaking out:
https://soundcloud.com/user-420353558/pippa-jones-interviewing-ben-griffin-on-chilcot-findings
Veterans for Peace UK do speak out despite the gagging orders, brave blokes.
Another ex-squaddie mouthing off despite the gag orders, this one got six months in the glasshouse (military prison) for refusing to deploy a second time to Afghanstan:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/07/unjust-war-soldiers-iraq-afghanistan-vietnam
RT really needs to have someone “proof read” the stories they post. They aren’t like an independent blog. They are an official Russian network channel viewed Worldwide. They have a story headlined “Over 70mn Brexiteers fret over Theresa May conducting Britain’s EU withdrawal” .The total population of the UK isn’t even 70 million people. I suspect they meant in the article and the headline “17 million” instead of 70. But that’s the point. Someone should easily have caught an error like that before the article was posted. Foolish errors like that are feed for the Russophobic Western MSM to eat up.
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/350685-70mn-brexiteers-britain-eu/
Well… it was good to dare “dream” for while but it’s over now.
The NWO, One World Government agenda marches on.
Leadsom dropped this morning and May (what do you know!) is the only one left standing. How so very convenient all of this is, isn’t it?
She could be in Number 10 by this Wednesday.
It’s amazing how for ‘the people’ have to wait for something “good” to happen for 40 years, but when it finally happens, they only allow us plebs to “enjoy” it for a meager two weeks.
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Theresa May will be Prime Minister on WEDNESDAY after Andrea Leadsom sensationally quits Tory race to No 10
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3684386/Andrea-Leadsom-QUITS-Tory-race-triggering-massive-row-mother-make-better-PM-handing-keys-No-10-Theresa-May.html
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For me (and many others, no doubt) it’s back to sleepless nights and crippling chronic anxiety disorder (which was starting to ease-off since the morning after the referendum).
Brexit is now officially in question, if not out-right off the table. Give “them” time, give them time… flip-flopping is definitely on the cards now, all they need is a black-op, or a false-flag, or a black swan event to give them an excuse to put Brexit on hold indefinitely, under the pretext: “we’re facing a huge crisis and now is not the right time to get out of the EU.”
As I always say, I hope I’m wrong, but the writing is on the wall! I said before; if May gets in, it’s the end of Brexit. I stand by my statement.
I can almost hear the uncorking of multiple champagne bottles by the likes of Junker, Schulz and the rest of the despicable Europhiles, delighted at the news coming from the EU province formerly known as the UK.
-TL2Q
May shall have a short run
p.s. we must have a new (snap) general election
They have been after Corbyn since the day he won the leadership,those MPs will never be forgiven,we have seen this before in 1982,then again right wing labour MPs tried to actually destroy the labour party at a time when Britain had the most extreme right wing government in history.
Article 50 v Early General Election
So the Tory Party have wrapped up their sordid little fo-election and are moving Morbidity-May into Number 10 with all haste; evidently they decided that the risks of airing these other ‘candidates’ in public any longer could not be justified (did you see the state of them? Honestly!).
This brings forward the prospects of either implementing article 50 or holding a general election by 2-3 months: it has to be one, it can’t be both, and they cant wait til xmas..
Holding an early general election is now the only foreseeable way of forestalling the implementation of article 50 (the EU having said no to a priori talks) whilst the implementation of article 50 is easily the best way to counter calls for an early general election.
Have they decided that they need to get on with a50? That delaying is no longer beneficial? Get on with their agenda of whittling away workers’ rights and signing away the welfare state on a fast-track TTIP-alternative? Surely pursuit of the above would lead Scotland straight towards a second referendum and winning it this time? And surely, a couple of years grace is exactly what Corbyn needs to put the Labour Party firmly back in the hands of the members?
Do they fancy their chances in a general election against Labour Party fighting a civil war? Are they banking of an SDP-style split? Do they think UKIP would eat into the Labour Heartlands whilst leaving them untouched? Are the moneyed classes so confident of their abilities to shape public opinion that they are willing to risk abdicating 3.5 years of power for the sake of a ‘mandate’, and an extra 1.5? Do they smell blood?
They have until the current Labour Leadership contest is over to contemplate their next move, but, with Cameron and Johnson removed, it looks like article 50 and its consequences are just around the corner.
“They have been after Corbyn since the day he won the leadership,those MPs will never be forgiven,we have seen this before in 1982,then again right wing labour MPs tried to actually destroy the labour party at a time when Britain had the most extreme right wing government in ”
Is the right answer.
If you study the history and join the dots you will see that it wasn’t the “Looney Left” media smears that worked for the far right extremists in the 80’s but the old classic divide and conquer your enemy tactic. Pay them off. Etc.* And then you will understand how Lord Owen got his Lordship, and how what was created then further facilitated the far right by supporting them during the last two parliaments in the UK allowing a group which had far less a majority then others described above to impose their religious ideologies and practices to an even more “austere” degree upon the civilians and citizens of the U.K.
*Confessions of a economic hit man could have had a chapter on the IMF attack on the UK in the mid-70’s, the moment when the UK finally lost independence. if you don’t have independence from the IMF then you remains slave to the bank regardless of some referendum spectacle/illusion that never had any binding authority or remit to be applied in the first place. Smoke and mirrors my friends not a new or even post industrial technique. Old magic.
Further:
If you love history you’d be intrigued how the very same institutions apply this tactic so well at the macro and micro level. At the end of the nineteenth century the barbarists gained control of the huge wealth of the sub-continent and S.Asia through the divide and conquer of the Muslim states if S.Asia, and today the same people who are repeating the same tactic against the representitives of the UK civil rights movements are also repeating those same tactics not only in the region described as the American Raj (please go and have a look at a maps of the sub-continent from 1750-1900 and compare them to post WWI maps of W.Asia and you will find yourself joining the dots) but with the intention of igniting an arc of fire from Malaysia to the Maghreb. And they will most likely succeed. A reading of the propaganda from that era and a comparison with the propaganda of today, some of it unfortunately reflected by some of the more bigoted or prejudiced commentators on the forums, is also quite revealing.
We can join the dots and draw the links, observe the pattern and we can understand who the actors are.
The Saker community should appreciate that the coincidental rise of the House of Saud and the religion of the Wahabs magically coincides with the destruction of these last independent primarily Islamic kingdoms. And they can consequently connect the dots, if they like.
Those kingdoms then represented the greatest obstacle to the “Faithful” (please read their propaganda going back centuries if you don’t understand the reference), this was before the Congress of Vienna.
Divide and conquer. Who amongst us can claim to have never been deceived?
In light of which:
Corbyn’s ability to play realpolitik is not a flaw but a strength. The Saker community should be aware that before he became labour leader that Corbyn was the chair of the Stop the War Coalition the last vestige during the Blair years of the English civil rights movement, until the blairites began to commit hari-kiri at the same time that their masters decided that they could lay Blair to rest alongside Clive of India (another socio/psychotic climber who was played and demoted as a patsy before his end having served his purpose – it can be fun connecting the dots), as Corbyn attempts to rebuild the only institution that ever managed to gaining rights for citizens in the UK, the Labour Party which was purged and renamed under Blair to Neo-Labor – we are witnessing the death and self-immolation of Neo-Labor and Corbyn set Hilary Benn and others up to hang themselves, he needed to purge the fascist Neo Labor parasites from the host the took over and they’ve helpfully obliged! Interesting, is it not?
Yes you can think that Labour is just the flip side of the Spectacle or Illusion. That can be true, it has been true.
But it’s also true that Corbyn is now the heir or Nye Bevan the greatest English politician of recent or modern history. Bevan is and was a rightfully loved figure who resigned from parliament at the beginning of the 1950’s at the height of this political power in objection to Macarthyism(propaganda) the hiring of American nukes etc. Not only because it was all out of the nation’s budget but because he said the soviet threat was an exaggeration. Etc. Given Bevan’s standing and record, that it took thirty years after the “faithful” returned to power to dismantle what he built in five, who could argue with Bevan? Or misunderstand his heir who probably will not be allowed to be PM here or if so yes a neutered one but definitely better then the rest if you don’t want to end up a cinder.
As predicted, a few stories that were suppressed before the UK Referendum are staring to trickle down (some buried low down on the main front page)…
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France is ‘on the verge of a civil war’ which could be sparked by a mass sexual assault on women by migrants, intelligence chief warns
“Patrick Calvar said mass sexual assault of women by migrants may start it.
Believes situation so tense another terror attack could also spark backlash [..]”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685561/France-verge-civil-war-sparked-mass-sexual-assault-women-migrants-intelligence-chief-warns.html#comments
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Remaniacs mantra on this subject: “we’re all safer in the EU”. (Cameron slogan was: ‘Britain will be stronger, safer and better off remaining in a reformed Europe’)
Safer as in; against terrorist attacks. Because apparently, whole herds of neanderthals free to roam and rape women and children as they go, is not terrorizing enough to these “people.”
Oh well, never mind. They were wrong on the low probability of future terrorist attacks too. (And those will happen soon enough, I’m afraid to say)
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EU banks ‘need £128bn bailout’: Chief economist of the bloc’s biggest lender warns industry is heading for disaster unless action is taken
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685601/EU-banks-need-128bn-bailout-Chief-economist-bloc-s-biggest-lender-warns-industry-heading-disaster-unless-action-taken.html#comments
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Remaniacs mantra on this subject: “The EU is an economically prosperous union and we [the UK] secure our own prosperity by remaining in the EU.”
Yeah! That’s some prosperity, isn’t it? Asking the tax-payer who’s barely keeping head above water to cough up money they don’t have, in order to bail out ‘too big to fail’ banksters = prosperity.
No wonder most people weren’t persuaded by the economy/trade line!
The fact that EU banks are in deep trouble, like the German Deutsche Bank to name just one, it’s been known to ZeroHedge readers (and other world-finance oriented sites) for months!
Meanwhile back in – we soooo want to remain in the EU – Scotland…
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Glasgow school has no Scottish pupils
“A GLASGOW school with no Scottish pupils is appealing for cash to help teach its Roma and Eastern European children.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/666452/Glasgow-school-no-scottish-pupils
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Remaniacs mantra on this subject (which is happening up and down the UK and other EU countries as well… you guessed it, the part of the big three; France, Germany, and probably Sweden too): dead silence.
Why does, in this case, the Scottish tax-payer has to fork-out cash to educate a bunch of foreign sprogs? Why can’t the Scottish authorities demand a rebate from wherever countries these children are from? Or alternatively, go straight to the EU and ask them for the same?
Ah! Million dollar question, isn’t it?
Mind you; if you’re a ‘brexiteer’ they’ll just tar you as a racist if you even ask these questions and that’ll be the end of that :/
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Most Europeans believe the migrant influx will lead to more terrorism and be an economic burden for their country
“New survey asked EU citizens their concerns about the migrant crisis
Figures showed that most believed the influx would lead to more terrorism
Also worries that migrants would become economic burdens on countries [..]”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3685411/Survey-Europeans-worry-migrants-increase-terror-threat.html
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Remaniacs mantra on this subject: again; dead silence. Since the subject was never raised, by neither side.
I love it when they say “new survey” when this cross-nation survey was actually completed way BEFORE the Brexit voting results, as the article states here: “It was conducted from April to May — before the British referendum to leave the European Union and the extremist attack at Istanbul’s Ataturk Airport last month.”
Why this wasn’t publish before now you may ask… well folks… have a wild guess!
-TL2Q
PS: …and don’t even get me started on this:
‘Foreign Men’ Rape, Molest Girls At Anti-Racism ‘Peace & Love’ Festival
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/12/foreign-men-rape-girls-multicultural-festival/