Oh this is too good, I have to show this to you! Remember how I predicted that the Ukies would claim that in attack on Novoazovsk came from Russia? I wrote:
“After having completely denied that an successful Novorussian operation was taking place, the Ukies had to finally admit that the Novorussian Armed Forces (NAF) had reached Novoazovsk. But remember that the successful operation which got them there in the first place never happened. So they end up publishing a map with an almost completely surrounded Novorussia and a tiny isolated speck around Novoazovsk. This begs the question: how did the NAF even get there? By air? Unlikely. By flying carpet or teleporters? Maybe not. And then the answer is obvious: through Russia of course! That is the politically correct interpretation“
One of the slimiest creeps in the Ukraine is a guy called “Savik Shuster” (real name: Ševelis Šusteris) who has a show called “Shuster Live” on Ukie TV. If you understand Russian/Ukrainian I HIGHLY recommend that show (no, I did not say that I *like* it!) as it will give you a fantastic insight into the kind of delusional insanity the junta and the nationalist freaks live in. Anyway, I was just watching the latest edition of Shuster Live (I was curious as to how these guys would present the events of the week to their public) and, sure enough, Shuster put up this map:
Ain’t this *perfect*?! Exactly as predicted: the entire week-long NAF counter-attack simply never happened. It just a short trek from across the border and that is were the *Russian attack* (to use Shuster’s words) came from.
But then, at the same time, the junta in Kiev is also simultaneously denying that Russia attacked, as they cannot get IMF money if they are at war (they will, of course).
So, the the Ukrainian people – Russia has attacked
To the Western politicians – Russia has attacked
but to the IMF – Russia has not attacked
Talk about doubleplusgooddoublethink! Orwell would be proud.
In closing, please go over to Club Orlov and read his excellent piece “How can you tell whether Russia has invaded Ukraine?“. Great stuff from a great guy.
Cheers everybody,
The Saker
Ukrainian arrested in Rio on charges of leading local drug trafficking ring.
Ukeland, exporting gangsters to the world.
Link:(in Portuguese)
http://noticias.uol.com.br/ultimas-noticias/agencia-estado/2014/08/31/preso-estrangeiro-suspeito-de-chefiar-trafico-de-drogas.htm
Supposed accident at Zaporozhia NPP, cut power to Crimea several hours ago.
Speaking of doubleplusgooddoublethink…
This from today’s Toronto Star:
NATO wrestles with its role as hacking, ‘ambiguous’ warfare gain prominence
Byline
As Russia has shown willingness, capability in cyber warfare, NATO has struggled to address its role in defending its members.
According to the report, these [Russian] tactics include:
Cyber attacks against state infrastructure networks and websites.
Widespread dissemination of often-false information to confuse and sway public opinion at home and abroad.
Employing propaganda to encourage the adversary’s population to undertake subversive activity.
Economic attacks to destabilize the economy, such as using sanctions and blocking trade flows.
These be heady days for jackboot enthusiasts.
Speaking of doubleplusgoodthink : in other news, it appeared this morning, displayed all over the subway telescreens of my canadian city, that a Ukrainian oktoberfest-kind-of-festival is going to happen soon and last three whole days! not counting the delight of seeing people dressed as stereotypical ukrainian peasants doing dances (as was shown in the commercial), we’re all very thrilled at the prospect of hearing the newest propaganda they’re sure to concoct for the occasion.
How exciting.
Don’t take it to heart. I’m an American, and I’m constantly being taken to task by my fellow countrymen for being willing to give credit where it is due, to people I despise. As I see it, it’s only intelligent and honest to admit when one’s adversary has good points, strengths or skills. For some reason I don’t quite understand, the dominant American meme is that one’s foe must be insane, ultimately evil, and possessing of no positive qualities whatsoever; never mind redemptive qualities. It’s not a healthy approach and it dooms Americans to a lack of understanding of situations. This is very useful to our power elites, of course. Yet Americans are not this foolish in their own real lives. If it’s a situation and a person we know, we can admit freely that our enemy has talents, or is liked by the sort of people who like him, or whatever the case may be. But if it’s a foreign person or group, or someone outside our personal circle of knowledge, it’s the standard form to turn them into cartoon villains. That applies to the internet in particular. It’s odd, and as I say, I don’t think it’s good for us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/opinion/arm-ukraine-or-surrender.html
“Arm Ukraine or Surrender” (what a choice eh, Ben Judah?)
Sorry here’s the link to the article (disguised as an op-ed, but really the elites talking to other elites over the long Labor Day weekend) I was referring to from the New York Times today.
Dear Saker and Friends,
I often follow the blog Pravosudija.net to find answers to questions that I cannot figure by myself. This article is one of those that explains a lot about Ukraine, the EU, Russia and US
http://pravosudija.net/article/okruzhenie-okruzhivshih
I have translated it using Google Translate, so some sentences might be not very clear. I’m sorry for that. But I hope it will be useful.
The translation in several parts (due to the length) will follow.
N-V
In the Chuster archive, or on youtube, you can find the program of “Chuster Live” from 2. Mai, the day of the Odessa massacre. Quite interesting, and frightening, to hear and see the public applaud when the reporter speaks about the action against the “pro-Russian” (dont remember exact term) leading up to the massacre!
I follow the program every Friday. It gives an excellent image of the selfunderstanding that domines the Kiev-protagonists.
Mr Saker,
How do you see this affecting the overall situation in ukraine if at all
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/18/did-iran-just-knife-putin-in-the-back/
Thank you for your excellent work
Regards
Translation Part One:
Surrounding the Surrounders
To make the long story short, lets recall briefly what happened recently in Ukraine. More precisely, what it looked like from the outside. The level of training of the Ukrainian army and the armies of the DNI / LC is about the same, but the militia protected their homes, and have far motivation superior
Therefore troops DNI / LC achieved victory after victory, until professional mercenaries PMCs cleared the Slovyansk, and did not allow the retreating rebels to gain a foothold in Kramatorsk. Then the case took the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they again suffered defeat after defeat.
Then came a relative lull, during which all over Ukraine mobilization took off. However, Mr. Poroshenko understand that the more people he will send to the Eastern front, the smaller will be his army. Those who do not die, do not fall into captivity, and will not be crippled, simply run away and can be considered a success if 25% is sent back.
Then NSC said that “President Poroshenko is preparing a plan, which should be an unpleasant surprise for the terrorists.” Peter A. even was photographed over a staff card and pretended that he understands what is printed there.
Press secretary of the National Security Council Andrei Lysenko mysteriously said: “The details of this plan were not disclosed, because it must be an unpleasant surprise for the terrorists.” Although now that it’s time to draw up a new plan, it would seem possible to talk about some of the details of the old, but the point is neither Lysenko nor Poroshenko were not informed what the plans are.
Then finally started the alleged Ukrainian offensive, the decision about which President Poroshenko took with great hesitation and lo! Defense militias crumbled, like dominoes, then mysteriously “disappeared” the symbolic figure of Igor Strelkov. Controlled by militia territory shrunk, and people left their posts and fled to Donetsk, where they were surrounded and almost in the blockade. The project “New Russia” has represented a scattered pockets of resistance.
At the same time, the Ukrainian army has not applied any new tactics, not concentrated more aircraft or armored vehicles than usual, and a few launches Complex “Tochka-U” – mostly in nowhere – could not change anything.
A day or two after the start of the offensive, the Ukrainian president has finally admitted that he gave the order to attack (everything is going so well, as he could not hope for). In Gazprom’s radio broadcasts one could hear hidden notes of euphoria: a little bit more and there is victory!
As you understand, gentlemen Shenderovich, Bykov as Mr. Lysenko, were not informed about the plans of puppeteers.
Ukrainian army was not infected by the plague, or the thunder of heaven (nothing special, apart from a few outbreaks of dysentery). Militia was no larger –quiet the opposite, they became smaller. The Ukrainian army have not received new weapons. However, on sites DNR and LC reigned funeral atmosphere.
And suddenly, as if by magic, the Ukrainian armed forces, were surrounded, including “elite” volunteer battalions.
N-V
Developing an unpredicted, unexpected success, the armed forces of the DNI / LC went on the offensive on all fronts s propaganda of their opponents immediately found an explanation for this: the Russian intervention. The tales, of course, about the mythical Russian intervention are repeated from the first day of the war, but any sign of it could not be found anywhere else, except in the Ukrainian media.
But this time the Western propaganda was able to “refute” the objective data of their own intelligence, pulled out into the light of a “separatist leader,” admitted involvement on his side of the Russian troops. Even if this statement is true, then it is not clear from what a hangover separatist leader would spread that.
Nevertheless, there aren’t any Russian troops there and never were, and if recruiters have been able to pull in to several dosens or even hundreds of volunteers or mercenaries more than usual, they would not make any impact. If among them were several contractors, then they are suitable for nothing except to wash the floors.
Thus, if you believe the media, no matter which, you will have inevitably come to the conclusion that for these events the Lord created two miracles: when the Ukrainian army, steadily defeated before, without changing its tactics and weapons, nearly triumphed, and when, weakened and almost completely destroyed by the siege, militia surrounded the enemies surrounding them and escaped to the open air.
The history of military affairs does not know such precedents. But God loves a trinity, and a third miracle happened. Russian President Vladimir Putin, who always told: all that is heppenning is Ukrainian internal affair, did not only called for the mercy of the militia to the fallen, but gave a detailed instruction to organize the corridor and to release from the seige the most hated militias “men in black.”
On this you can put an end, but our genre – not a religious sermon. Therefore, let’s start with the beginning. Before the start of the latest developments, Ukrainian President Peter Poroshenko showed undeniable signs of uncertainty and confusion, as he knew he does not have the power needed for a military solution, and repeatedly hinted at the possibility of negotiations. But war profiteers, the puppeteers (about them -in other materials) could not allow such a solution.
Poroshenko was proposed to strengthen the Ukrainian army not by one or two hundred, as when taking over Sloviansk but several thousand fighters PMC-for lifting the fighting morale. The top decisions make American auditors, but they know not more than our sofa-soldiers, firing from the keyboard. Therefore, they had no idea of the impact on the operational situation – in the zone of low intensity conflict – will have thousands(!) of professionals in urban guerrilla warfare,
In a very short time, the commanders of PMC reported: the enemy retreated, and their surrounding is almost completed. Necessary to isolate such a sector and to suppress the last pockets of resistance. The customers were shown all on the maps, but they read them not much better than Mr. Poroshenko. Though they count money as good as he does.. The blunder is obvious: in a few days the war would be over, and good-bye, profit.
Translation Part Two
The PMCs received a strict order: the entire personnel without delay to abandon their positions and relocate to Kyiv region. Some mercenaries managed to make friends with the Ukrainian comrades in arms, and eager to help them to complete the job. These particularly slow-witted were pat on the shoulder and sent to Hungary.
N-V
Translation Part Three
Ukrainian army was not going to war, but to the circus: to see the performance of foreign magicians, and at the same time to rummage around in one’s pockets and apartments. Well, pick up weapons of the killed – at home it is worth a lot of money. After the foreign bone was taken out of it, the Ukrainian army crumbled. And flattened almost to the limit of the spring resistance, suddenly freed from the pressure and rapidly straightened.
As a result, Ukrainian troops were surrounded, the “men in black” including. If at his time Igor Strelkov forbade take captive officers of the 25th Airmobile Brigade –then those “men in black” God himself commanded to hang on lamp posts. This is well understood in the Kremlin, but they understood something else. Something that has consistently failed to understand (though perhaps pretending to), my editor at the Forum website MSK. A. Yu Baranov.
In his article titled “Putin offers to play with ukrainian forces giveaway” he writes, “Putin made a very strange statement, the logic of which is not clear to everyone.” Surprisingly, but in fact I do agree that many somehow do not understand. Next, a few questions: “Militia with great difficulty, drove a large force of the enemy in the boiler. This is a serious military success. And Vladimir Putin offers to release … enemy to their wives and mothers? “. Absolutely.
Or “What is this? PR above common sense? What kind of a “humanitarian corridor” for soldiers who have fallen in the caldron? “. And finally: “I imagine that Stalin proposes to open a humanitarian corridor for the army of Field Marshal Paulus to German soldiers to return to their wives and children …”.
Anatoly Y., thanks for the game. You also played in the giveaway, and won. Let’s start with the main point: Well, of course, PR above common sense. Moreover, PR and common sense has nothing in common. Common sense tells us that in Ukraine there is a war. PR West argues that there is no war, and Poroshenko stubbornly refuses to declare it. Do you guess why?
In the perception of the West what is happening in the South-East of Ukraine is comparable to the insurgency in Ferguson, which was introduced by the National Guard, only on a larger scale. If we try to calculate the reaction of the West, based on common sense, you will find that common sense is so unique there, that we look stupid.
Let’s try to still make an effort, and look at the events from a Western point of view. Putin is real good. No wonder his nickname, not online alias, and the People’s nickname in Dresden residency was “Stasi”.
I rarely use the term “the West” because there are different and with often opposing interests. However, in this regard the West united, and makes decisions that will be on the basis of their own misunderstanding, and not of our wrongs.
Of course, we can care less for their decisions, but it would not turn out good. But the main thing: let (just in case) calculate, so you do not wonder. To start, lets compare of what is happening in Ukraine, where Ukrainian army is surrounded, with the surrounding of the army of Field Marshal Paulus. In the West it would be perceived, (regardless of its accuracy or inaccuracy), like a situation in which the National Guard in Ferguson surrounded by the crowd of protesters, some of whom are armed.
Now imagine what would happen if the “men in black” were not provide a corridor. They have not enough munitions, which some have reported home. The West, perhaps, do not know, but you and I know that these volunteers-as it is softer to express, not much better than football hooligans.
N-V
Translation Part Four
Imagine a commander of one of the “Kolomoiskiy battalions”, who in a similar position would appeal to people like this: “Brothers! If comrade’s phone is dead, give him a minute to say goodbye to his family say goodbye to your families. Ensign Give to all the last bullet. Are you ready? Sing Ukrainian anthem! Follow me! “?
You can’t imagine? Me too. Therefore, the events, in all probability, would have developed Therefore the events would go roughly as follows: the white flag. Weapons on the floor! Hands behind your head! Face into the floor! Who is the asshole, that pushes? You call me goat ?! Tra-ta-ta-ta … and on the ground would a few more hundreds of unarmed corpses. For such recording on a mobile phone the Western press would give any money, and it would go on the same day – on all the screens scrolling text: “Massacre in Donetsk.”
Then responsible commander intervene to restore discipline and would place the surviving prisoners at the stadium or in the schoolyard. Keep away the press or not, amateur video or images inevitably reappear. At this time, another diligent student of Goebbels will supply them with the headline: “concentration camp in Donetsk”, and the next,(despite the common sense) will write about the ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians.
Many readers in Russia would not believe it, but Western countries did not want to interfere in Serbia. However, when the media have magic spells: Massacre! Concentration camp! Ethnic cleansing! the governments had no choice.
If these spells have anything to do with reality, or completely cut off from it, does not matter. PR above common sense. The Heads of State will undoubtedly receive from the intelligence information that the press is lying about everything, as usual. But they would not dare to explain to their constituents that what they had seen on television is not exactly as they understood it.
After a few days the vast majority of the population in Western countries is convinced that the terrorists in Donetsk, with the support of Russia organized the massacres, placed honest cops in concentration camps without trial, and provide ethnic cleansing. Insanity? But the West for many years lived in this insanity.
Then begins the prosecution of governments in a criminal inaction, “as it was in Kosovo and Rwanda.” Send to Ukraine NATO troops? Too close on a possible collision course with a nuclear power. But you cannot sit idly by! What to do?
And it is here that there is a threat that unites the interests of the Kremlin and the American puppeteers.
The Kremlin is well aware that the West eventually would not send troops. They will send another PMC, with tens of thousands of thugs, who will drown Novorossia in blood – because the time of execution and the price will be negotiated upfront. Only regular Russian army would be able to resist them, but Russian army has nothing they want in Ukraine: all the problems of the Kremlin have already been solved. The naval bases in the Crimea are now on Russian sovereign territory, while Ukraine’s territorial claims denied her the possibility of joining NATO.
In this case, with government intervention puppeteers will lose control – which again contradicts the interests of the Kremlin. While the private companies manage the conflict, they will not allow Kiev to win, not to lose the favorable deal. If they shake hands,” thanks for the help” and “we invite every year to celebrate the Day of victory over Russia” – it is the worst possible scenario. They need money, and without Poroshenko’s gratitude they will somehow manage. In an extreme case, appoint someone “more grateful”.
N-V
Translation Part Five (Final)
But the prospect of a bloody defeat of Novorossia is disadvantageous to the Kremlin from the political point of view. People would not understand. However, to invade Ukraine, firstly, it is meaningless in terms of Russia’s national interests. There is no longer any interest there, and the Kremlin is engaged in protection of compatriots only if it is in the interests of Russia. Secondly it means to really quarrel with the West, which, instead of condemning in words and symbolic sanctions would be forced to go to real revision of relations.
Strictly speaking, for whom the risk? Threats to Novorossia, not to mention Russia, these warriors do not represent. And what to do with them? Capture, contain, and then still let go – at the risk of prosecution in the creation of concentration camps, because no state recognizes them as prisoners of war. In this case, the sword of Damocles is hanging: the constant risk of other charges, in the inhumane treatment of them. Each death while trying to escape, for example, will have to be seriously investigated, distracting people from more urgent tasks. We have already considered what their mass death would lead to.
However, we are missing another factor. There is no benefit from them in Donetsk, only a headache, but what happens in Kiev? Do you believe that these people return home and tell the truth? Namely: during the offensive they were hiding behind foreign mercenaries, then when covered merely by the Ukrainian army, were, one might say, without protection, “Vatnks” immediately kicked their asses and released at the request of Putin.
I am afraid that it is in a sense overestimating of their personal qualities. They have not been suspected before in unshakable quest for the truth, and now their entire long sad story fit in several words: “Kiev have betrayed us.” And now for something Kiev these “freed men” are much more severe headache than ever were to Donetsk.
Website PRAVOSUDIYA.NET: http://pravosudija.net/article/okruzhenie-okruzhivshih
N-V
The CIA News Network agrees with the Vineyard
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140831/192510645/No-Signs-of-Russian-Invasion-in-Ukraines-Novoazovsk.html
Re: Turkey’s Erdogan comes closer to Russia
http://journal-neo.org/2014/08/23/turkey-s-erdogan-comes-closer-to-russia/
I wonder if the Turkish deep state would favour a realignment alongside Russia. What was inconceivable very recently now seems possible, perhaps even probable.
Turkey is another potential swing state in the so-called Great Game. Erdogan has repeatedly asked to join the SCO and could offer Russia and China a great deal in terms of security guarantees in Central Asia, the Black Sea and Caucuses. AZ shenanigans in Iraq/Syria/Kurdistan are a definite threat to the territorial integrity of the Turkish state although the current regime deserves considerable blame: or maybe not. Maybe Turkish political leadership has been reacting all along. Turkey is a very tough one to figure out.
I no longer believe the Empire will be able to hold it together. There are too many variables in flux. Turkey, Germany, India, Pakistan and many others are all suddenly in play. Even the US/Israel alliance is not as secure as it seems.
None of this would have been possible without Putin’s steady handling of the multiple crisis’ thrown his way. It is impossible to understate the stupidity and pathological destructiveness of AZ foreign policy over the last several years.
I am constantly amazed by the prescience of Orwell’s dystopian vision, including the geopolitical. The tripartite world he described seems well within the realm of possibility.
One thing is certain, those of us who live in Anglo-Zion are in for a very rough ride.
Antiwar movement inside Russia:
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.ca/2014/08/window-on-eurasia-russia-stands-at.html?m=1
Porkey is playing ‘marital’ arts. No retreat no surrender.. Seems hes bombing his own men again. So in effect the poles are bombing the Ukrainian army. Just like a woman scorned, porkey thinks the more ukies that die, the less he has to kill later. Was this not the same mentality of Hitler? He kept killing germans and expecting them to keep winning. When hitler ordered his Leibstandartes to give back their order medals because they were not dying fast enough or winning, he wanted them to keep making suicidal attacks. You can see a lot of parallels between the 2 monkeys. This is more like a personal ego trip rather than anything else except there are real men dying.
And just like hiter, porkey wants people to drop their weapons so he can go kill them. He will talk later.. Talk to whom?? The US can do this because they fight with overwhelming firepower and they have the money to bomb the same place ten times over. I doubt this kind of die first and we talk later works for anyone else. It does not always work for the US either but when everyone is dead, whats there to talk about?
CHELYABINSK, August 31 (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin in his Sunday’s interview called for inclusive negotiations inside Ukraine, not granting statehood to Novorossiya, the union of Donetsk and Luhansk republics in the east of the country, the Russian leader’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
“The inclusive negotiations, which should determine the relationships [of Kiev] with eastern regions, that is, negotiations inside Ukraine on the internal Ukrainian order with respect for the interests of the country’s eastern regions, the interests of Novorossiya – the way, extent and mechanisms of this process. That’s what the president meant,” Peskov said.
The Kremlin spokesperson added that giving some status to Novorossia was totally out of the question, which “becomes clear after reading the president’s statement.”
My comment: This would seem to slam the door on the easiest, quickest settlement of this crisis. If Moscow could recognize Novorussia as an independent state, it would bring an end to the fighting in the region, and allow reconstruction to begin this year. Ukraine might be willing to agree to the loss of Donetsk and Lugansk in exchange for guarantees that the revolution will not advance itself to other oblasts.
Oops
It is impossible to overstate the stupidity, pathological destructiveness of AZ of AZ foreign policy…
The Iranians are just playing games, voicesof insanity, though fair exchange for Putin reneging on S-300 and nuclear enrichment deal. The natural flow of Iranian gas is NOT to Europe, but, Iran Pakistan India, and Iran Pakistan China, alongside the highway the Chinese built into Pakistan.
I have a prediction. Mariupol will be taken by a “Soviet” naval invasion (with Chinese, Venezuelan and Cuban help) according to the zio-things, their political proxies and their [cough] news media. ;D
вот так
“I have a prediction. Mariupol will be taken by a “Soviet” naval invasion (with Chinese, Venezuelan and Cuban help) according to the zio-things, their political proxies and their [cough] news media. ;D
@ 01 September, 2014 04:06
вот так, you laugh, but given the destruction of what’s left of the Ukrainian fleet guarding Mariupol, all two cutters Sunday, I’d say an amphibious invasion with the Soviet naval ensign flying over the ships of Novorossiya is not as far fetched as it may sound. Plus getting ashore quickly especially at zero dark plus a fake paradrop (borrowing from all the dummies the Allies parachuted into Normandy to confuse the hell out of the Wehrmacht) by the ‘Novorossiya Air Force’ and a simultaneous land-based assault hitting the Ukie artillery on the outskirts first would have many of the city’s defenders crapping their pants. Though a few would probably fight to the bitter end.
I do think the example of the humane surrenders taking place near Ilovaisk is psychological warfare to get the Ukies left in Mariupol or at least sizable numbers of them to give up. But surrender is more difficult in bloody urban combat where snipers from both sides dominate the battelfield.
http://winterpatriot.com/comment/reply/921
UKRAINE – What Just Happened?
American Kulak said…01 September, 2014 04:29
“вот так, you laugh”
No, it’s sarcasm rooted in extreme disgust. It’s not laughing at the things, it’s pissing on them I’m doing.
The sods are full of the hubris of those who think themselves “gods”, convinced they can promote any falsehood, no matter how absurd, and that their control of the people in the “west” is so thorough and complete, they need not worry about any blowback, even if they change the BS meme 180 degrees every day.
Thanks to zionist Jewish efforts in mass psychology, marketing and propaganda, most people in the west are more concerned about who is diddling who on their television soaps than the who, what or whys their arses are constantly sore.
вот так
Saker !
Have you seen the article mentioned by
Dublinsmick @ 4:58
Winterpatriot “Ukraine, What Just Happened ?”
Its really good and you’d like it…just up your alley…please write commentary on it.
voicesofinsanity
Mike Whitney’s articles are generally very good, however, in this case concerning the Iran pipeline deal he missed the mark. Pipeline geopolitics is very complex and idiots such as Ambassador Morningstar have been beaten by Putin’s team for almost 15 years.
Iran already provides gas for Turkey in winter, but at a rate of $585/ 1000 Cu M. The pipeline from Turkey serves the following purposes:
(1) Allows Iran to develop a gas field shared with Qatar to reduce Qatar’s gas thefts:
(2) Cripples Qatar’s planned gas pipeline through Syria that is currently blocked by Russia and Syria;
(3) No pipeline should reduce Qatar’s support for radical Al Nasra units and thus support for ISIS which was originally a tool to destroy the Syrian government and ethnically cleanse Syria;
(4) The gas pipeline provides an out for Azerbaijan gas through the same pipeline reducing tensions between Azerbaijan and Armenia (remember Putin called both leaders to meet with him to settle the border disputs);
(5) Forces Azerbaijan to cooperate with Iran in trade an addition to cooperation in trade between Iran and the separated porton of Azerbaijan:
(6) Prevents the AMBO pipeline through to Albania and instead joins the pipeline through the Serbian corridor (Kosovo and all that);
(7) Provides goodwill with Turkey in hopes of getting it to increase trade with Russia (especially Crimea).
There is a lot more to the game, but be rest assured that Putin’s team are masters of the pipeline game.
I realise we come from different experiences but try not to react since many don’t do nou onze, fortunately.
Some will even emulate Winston Smith – do it to her.
On doubleplusgooddoublethink and the power of silence, it is not always a disadvantage when your opponents resort to it.
As to research, probably it has been in process for quite a while.
Where-Wolf,
As regards Orwell, in 2007 I had an “A-Ha!” moment seeing a map juxtaposing goods & capital formation/flow in a finance article. Change the labels, and Orwell’s 3 blocks and the disputed non-aligned states they fought over jumped off the page. Nothing I’ve seen since then has erased that “A-Ha!” moment
Orwell, like Huxley (Brave New World), extrapolated trends already visible to their keen eyes. If you combine their visions, you have all the ingredients needed for the stew now bubbling.
Domestically, a full spectrum police state + wall-to-wall feel-good pacifiers/distractions (drugs/GMO foods/iGadgets/TV/porn/et cetera) against a constant background of fear of vague “threats”, foreign & domestic.
Geo-politically, three great powers in a Three Kingdoms dance of shifting alliances vie for resources from the periphery.
Parenthetically, I think the West will eventually transition to the Orwellian side of the narrative. The pacifiers will become unaffordable as the West’s imperial wealth pumps lose suction and the oppression increases to take up the slack.
In a previous thread, I posted Kissinger’s veiled warning in a recent WSJ OpEd. One should keep in mind that he speaks for the deepest parts of the deep state.
Kissinger was recently quoted as saying that vilifying Putin is but “an alibi for the absence of (policy),”. Reading his latest through an Orwellian lens, Dr. K. warns that the danger for the West, both domestically and geo-politically, is a mindless slide into a 1984-esque future for itself and the rest of the world.
I guess he thinks it’s still possible to avoid Orwell’s vision. I hope his readers get the message, but I can’t see how this train stops before it derails.
Erebus
Interesting video…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHZ4MEW2c8
‘US senators have advised sending defensive weapons to Ukraine so the latter can fight off pro-Russian rebels as President Vladimir Putin dangled the threat of nuclear war.’ – on purpose no link to MSM’s white noise
“So, to recap the whole story; we can only fire this missile when the pro-Russian rebels shoot at us, in defense?”
“No, sir. We can also shoot it on our own at the pro-Russian rebels…”
“You mean, attacking the pro-Russian rebels?”
“Not exactly, sir. We’re defending our motherland by destroying their fatherland. Perhaps you remember how we burned the village of Troptokol in order to save it? And the pro-Russian rebels always shoot first. We’re only defending ourselves. We act a bit like your tribesmen back in the Apartheid State, so we’re good in the eyes of the ‘World community.’ We can’t do anything wrong. Like you said yourself; this will all be over in a matter of hours, not weeks….”
With respect to the coming winter guerilla war, a variation on a traditional saying:
1 Ukrainian – partisan
2 Ukrainian – partisan squad
3 Ukrainian – partisan squad with traitor
4 Ukrainian – partisan squad with traitor and FSB agent
I notice that the Dutch MSM is changing from pro-russian forces to just russian forces to strengthen the “Russian invasion”. Dutch propaganda is getting sickening nowadays.
Also noticable is that the comments on these news items are changing more and more into an anti Russian sound..could be due to the fact that the public needs to be warmed up for the new NATO force the Dutch will be included with.
F.i. :
“Eerder hadden de strijdkrachten laten weten dat Oekraïense militairen streden tegen een Russisch tankbataljon bij de luchthaven. Loehansk is een van de bolwerken van de separatisten in het oosten van Oekraïne.”
Google translate :
“Earlier, the military had announced that Ukrainian soldiers fought with a Russian tank battalion at the airport. Lugansk is one of the strongholds of the separatists in eastern Ukraine.”
Dutchie
BOTH airports have been taken by the Militia eeerr Novorossian army..
Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from the airport of the eastern city of Luhansk following clashes with pro-Russian rebels, military officials say.
The announcement came after the two sides were engaged in all-night fighting.
Well, for a change, I think we can all agree with the last appeal from Poroshenko:
http://houseofmaedhros.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/tsk-tsk-i-told-you/
from cluborlov:
“President Obama just held a press conference to announce that “We don’t have a strategy on Ukraine yet.” His military advisers tell him that his usual strategy of “bomb a little and see what happens” is not likely to be helpful in this instance”
the only strategy he knows, and the only tune he knows:
You’ve got to give a little, bomb a little
Sometimes let your poor heart break a little
That’s the story of, and that’s the glory of love
As Ukie troops flee, @ Reuters-
(Take a look at this R/R yard full of burnt out trains)
NAF is having a successful dick-cheney party, Lugansk Airport has been captured and It’s Russia doing-mounting a direct and open aggression
(Reuters) – [ as] Kiev’s forces suffer major reverses in the war with pro-Moscow separatists.
Ukraine’s military said its forces had been ordered to pull back from a vital airport in the east of the country, near the city of Luhansk, where they had been battling a Russian tank battalion.
Poroshenko said in a speech there would be high-level personnel changes in the Ukrainian armed forces, whose troops fled a new rebel advance in the south which Kiev’s Western allies say has been backed up by Russian armoured columns.
(snip)
Until last week Ukraine had appeared close to crushing the four-month rebellion in the east,[.] . But then the rebels opened a new front to the south on the coast of the Sea of Azov, pushing towards the city of Mariupol.
(snip)
The conflict moved onto the sea for the first time on Sunday when the separatists said they had fired on a Ukrainian vessel in the Azov Sea using land-based artillery.
A Ukrainian border guard official said on Monday that the naval cutter had been sunk.
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BREAKING NEWS: Say it ain’t so
Donetsk, Luhansk to preserve Ukraine’s unity if Kiev accepts their demands
Representatives of LPR and DNR have made public their position for the meeting of the Contact Group on Ukraine in the Belarusian capital Minsk that begins later on Monday.
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Idiotic of the week.
Australian P.M. Abbott in search of 2 brain cells.
Australia Imposes New Sanctions on Russia”
MOSCOW, September 1 (RIA Novosti) – New Australian sanctions will ban arms exports to Russia, prohibit Russian state-owned banks further access to the Australian capital market and ban oil and gas exports to Russia, Australia’s prime minister announced Monday.”
Mr. Abbott take notice:
Gazprom starts commercial oil supplies from Iraq’s Badra field and New Siberian export pipeline to unite Russia’s gas export Putin is expected to take part in a ceremony later on Monday to connect the first stage of Russia’s new pipeline Power of Siberia intended for natural gas supplies to the Russian Far East and China and, and Russian Rosneft (whose partner is ExxonMobil) to invest $400 billion in the Arctic in the Kara Sea before 2030
On August 9, Rosneft with ExxonMobile started drilling in the Kara Sea, Tass reported earlier. The head of ExxonMobil Russia, Glenn Waller, said in June that if oil and gas were found in the Arctic Region, the company would increase by times investment in its exploration.
Btw, Mr. Abbott: It is clearly not in the interests of the long-standing members of the EU to escalate a sanctions and financial conflict with Russia.
“The European Central Bank will have almost certainly discussed contingency plans with the major regional central banks in the Eurozone, because the banking system might have to make available special credit and financing facilities, i.e. a rescue from a financial crisis if NATO goes much further down the sanctions route. This is why politicians are walking on eggshells, paying lip-service to America and the scared Eastern fringe members of NATO while hoping this goes no further.”
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Australians are sitting on stlen land and wealth of natives otherwise what does Australia produce really?
It is high time that stolen land of Australia and Canada be taken away from settlers and those white settlers sent back to their rotten pirate country englabd or destryoed on the way back.
What the heck are they doing 10000,miles from their homeland?
Kissinger was recently quoted as saying that vilifying Putin is but “an alibi for the absence of (policy),”.
……
This is exactly right. Americans started believing In their own propaganda about their exalted Exceptionalism
The only people resisting Neoliberal/Neocon singular polarity are the takfiris and Novorossiyans
When American Uber violence failed in Ukraine laying blame and creating bogeymen (Saddam, Bin Laden, Now Putin) is meant to hold domestic control since Obama has admitted he makes it up as he goes along
It should be quite obvious that the CIA still has the Press on their payroll. When even a new media org like Huffington Post is in on the propaganda train, you know they are getting paid
There are two things in play
1. Demonizing Putin for challenging the “natural” order of an American hegemon
2. Softening up the American Sheeple for inevitable war
can some one translate this page?
https://vk.com/strelkov_info
six NATO officers surrounded in Mariupol by DPR Army
Part of channel(s): Ukraine (current event)
“NATO advisers locked in Mariupol. Six NATO officers are surrounded by soldiers antifascist Mariupol, said political analyst Igor Panarin.
NATO Information Division arrived in Kiev in March 2014 (16 officers Kibertsentra NATO).
It launched an aggressive anti-Russian activities.
In July 6 officers Kibertsentra NATO created in Mariupol stronghold. It NATO officers determine the news agenda for punitive Junta. probability of hitting a prisoner six NATO officers is high. “
From LiveLeak
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b39_1409574102
I think the point was “Russians have invaded, but are pretending they haven’t”, so they cannot do what is described in the ClubOrlov article because that would be a dead giveaway.
dublinsmick said…
http://winterpatriot.com/comment/reply/921
UKRAINE – What Just Happened?
Thank you for posting Dublin’s Mick, fantastic article and the video, says it all.
The BBC did the same thing. They had the two week old map of the NAF surrounded in Donetsk and Luhansk and then had to explain why the NAF were attacking 60 miles away. Lucky for them most people aren’t paying full attention to what the BBC are saying or they’d realise what a joke the reporting of this has been.
Does anyone remember the name of the supposed law or principle which applied to online political debate suggestimg that whichever party first introduced Hitler or Nazis had thereby lost the argument? It never sat well with me because it seemed to imply that any such reference must be disingenuous. Due to this shortcoming nobody seems to cite said principle these days but oddly enough it may apply to the several diplomatic gaffes by Western figures over the spring and summer (e.g. Hilarious Clinton and Prince Charles).
Brian
The Orlov laugh was terrific, but I think that Kolomoisky’s demise would have been from a ‘heart attack’, possibly induced by Mossad for failing in his mission. Or a slow death courtesy of Polonium 210, ‘to encourage the others’.
Saker – in case you didn’t know, Paul Craig Roberts as linked your article: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/09/02/warning-world-washington-nato-eu-vassals-insane-paul-craig-roberts-2/
Galahad