Two phone conversations have recently been intercepted by “parties unknown” (thank you Spetssviaz & 6th GRU!) which are truly revealing of the true nature of the folks put in power by the CIA.
The first one is a conversation between Igor Kolomoisky, mega-oligarch, Mafia don, dual Ukrainian-Israeli citizen and “junta governor” of the city of Dnepropetrovsk in southeastern Ukraine and Oleg Tsarev, ex-candidate in the Presidential election (ex Party of Regions, now independent), the one who was brutally assaulted in Kiev after participating to a show called – I kid you not – “free speech”. This is the machine translated transcript of the conversation (slightly corrected by me):
Kolomoysky: Hi.
Tsarev: Hi.
Kolomoysky: Where are you? Same place?
Tsarev: Same place.
Kolomoysky: How are you?
Tsarev: Good.
Kolomoysky: There’s big trouble happened . A Jew of the Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community was.
Tsarev: What happened there?
Kolomoysky: Well, a Jew got killed, one of the Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community . I am right now in the synagogue.
Tsarev: What was he doing there?
Kolomoysky: Well , no matter what he did. They said that they would put a contract on your life, fuck , big money.
Tsarev: For my life?
Kolomoysky: Million dollars. For your life . Yes. Moreover , they said that will be looking everywhere. Well, I just say that this so you say in Moscow, don’t travel anywhere
Tsarev: Let me tell you something . In Africa, there are …
Kolomoysky: Tomorrow they will go after your people (family) here.
Tsarev: In Africa, there is such a … such a poison …
Kolomoysky: Look, I don’t give a fuck about Africa. I don’t care about this. I am telling you that in the synagogue on the eve of the Sabbath there was a prayer. They prayed for the slain fellow Jew, comrade Shlemkevich, who was killed in Mariupol, fuck!
Tsarev: So …
Kolomoysky: And they said that Tsarev is to blame for it all, fuck . And tomorrow, fuck, the first thing they will do is look for all your loved ones, fuck . You better tell them to get the fuck out of here. Because we will hang them right on the public square, fuck … And tell Markov not to come here . Well, in the Ukraine. Under any circumstances . You hear me?
Tsarev: Do not call me . Do not call me , Igor.
Kolomoysky: Not to call you? Ok. So long Tsarev
Tsarev: Come on. Bye.
Charming no?
The second conversation, which is too long for me to transcribe here took place between a guy called Oleg Noginskii and the Israeli Honorary Ambassador to the Ukraine, Ian Epstein (spelling?). The Russian transcript can be found here. Two things are clear from that conversation: Kolomoiski is the guy who sent the neo-Nazis to Odessa and the Israeli diplomat and the Jewish community in the Ukraine are horrified by Kolomoiski’s actions and want to distance themselves from what they call “Nazi crimes”. Noginski spells out there conclusion:
We declare that the world Jewish community, first: has nothing to do with Mr Kolomoisky, second: does not support (the actions) in Odessa, or Mariupol or any of those involved and expresses sincere sympathy. And third, says that if a Jew is involved in Nazi crimes, we will fight first him.
I find this very interesting because it perfectly illustrates something which I have been trying to hammer into the heads of the pathological Jew-haters out there for what seems like forever: YES there are Jewish oligarchs out there who are almost a perfect caricature of the loathsome Jewish plutocrat-thug and they are very bit as bad as the worst anti-Jewish propaganda likes to portray them. But NO, they are not typical of a Jewish community which is every bit as complex and diverse as any other. Some Jews are truly horrified by what these oligarchs to and they are acutely aware that the backlash against such scum will hit the entire Jewish community.
Now, of course, a knee-jerk rabid Jew-hater will immediately reply that “oh, of course, how naive, these guys are playing both sides just to make sure to win” which is absolute crap. I personally have known many Jews who have were active in struggles for what is right without anybody knowing about it. Like my Jewish neighbor who was sending money to Serbs during the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo and even after, and then she was sending letters of support to Milosevic in the Hague not because she wanted to play “both sides” but because her entire family except her mother had been butchered in the Nazi camps and she was grateful for the Serbs for having really fought Hitler (unlike the rest of Europe).
Now while I am at it, let me make something clear here:
I am fully aware of the role which Jews played in the horrors of the 20th century, I am aware that they declared war on Russia first, and on Germany after that (both times the order came from organized American Jewry and Jewish banks), I loathe both Rabbinical Judaism and Zionism because both are based on self-worship and racism. I don’t need lectures on all the bad things Jews have done or are still doing. Believe me, I have read more anti-Jewish books than most people here (if only because I read them all not only English, but also in Russian which has at least 10 times as many anti-Jewish books as there are in English). And yet, I want to make something clear:
As Gilad Atzmon correctly points out – Jews are racist, but they are not a race. As Shlomo Sands proved it – there is not such thing as a “Jewish race”. It’s an invention. Like most nations, by the way. So we are dealing with two ideological phenomena: a) Jewish tribalism and b) Rabbinical Judaism. Neither of them is transmitted by genes, has any basis in biology or is somehow magically passed on from generation to generation.
So I am walking a very difficult and tight path here: I DO want to participate and support the struggle against the secular and religious manifestations of Jewish racism. But I DO NOT want to “cross the line” and do exactly what I accuse many Jews of doing: turn racist myself and deny our common humanity. I assure you that my position is a difficult one as I get labeled both an anti-Semite and a Jew-lover. I am neither. Or, I am an anti-racist and a mankind-lover if you prefer. I will go as far as saying that Rabbinical Judaism is, in my sincerely held conclusion, Satanic at its core and at least as evil as Wahabi Islam. And Zionism is noting but the semi-secular rendition of the same racist values (at least modern Zionism, the original one was a very different phenomenon). But to bring all the evils of our times only to the actions of those Jews who are truly evil is plain ridiculous: there is AT LEAST as much non-Jewish evil out there as there is Jewish one. Need I remind you all that the favorite slogan of the Ukie Nazis is: “Бий жидів та москалів” or “beat the Jews and the Russians” (notice that Jews come first!).
I am disgusted by the modern media in which no criticisms of Jews is possible or, not without at least 3 paragraphs of disclaimers. I hate the modern “Holocaust Industry” (As Norman Finkelstein called it) for constantly rubbing it in over and over and over and over again with the “Holocaust” and its absolutely mandatory figure of “6 millions” (the only case of mass murder in history which always has to be attached to a number of victims, the only one. Ever wondered why?). I find Israel an abomination whose very existence is a disgrace for all of mankind. And I am sick and tired of mediocre talentless Jews being promoted by their fellow Jews everywhere just because “he is one of us”. But NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with race, ethnicity or biology. This is simply the hijacking of an immoral and corrupt society by a particularly immoral and corrupting *tribe* which is also ruled by its own 1%. Just like non-Jews, the vast majority of Jews having no control over what their elites are doing in their name. As for their elites, they brainwash them literally from birth (just study the feat of Purim for a proof of that) and then further terrify them with the constant repetition of the mantra: “the goyim hate us, they almost exterminated us many times, we have to protect ourselves or they will exterminate us again, we need to make sure we hold all the positions of power and wealth to prevent the goying from killing us all”. And the percentage of Jews who believes that crap is about the same as the percentage of non-Jews who believe the propaganda which they are taught in their own home and schools. Guys – we are all humans, with the same weaknesses, the same inclinations and the same evil 1% ruling over us.
Anyway, I am getting off my soapbox fully aware that I must have pissed off both those who like Jews and those who hate them. Look, this is my opinion and I don’t expect you all to agree. What I will say is that this is my blog and this is my post and for the comments section under this post – just for this one time – I will set much stricter rules than usual. First, if you want to call me an anti-Semite or a covert Jew or Jew-lover – don’t bother. I plead guilty both (just to confuse and piss you off) and reject your comment. Second, IF you want to discuss the “J” topic – make darn sure that your comment is respectful to all others, well substantiated, logically organized and substantive. Venting or slogans will be rejected. And please posts on this topic only if you have something to say, at least in regards to my rant which I will single out in blue to separate it from the rest of the post about the Ukraine.
Oh, and for Pete’s sake, please read what I actually wrote. And if needed, read it again. I wrote what I wrote and not something else. Please don’t “read something into what I wrote”. No “overtones” or implications. If you are not sure – please ask. I say this because the other day I got an email from a moron who accused me of being an anti-Semite and when I challenged him three times to quote a single sentence from this 7 year old blog to prove it he could not come up with one example. You have no idea how sick and tired I am of constantly having to deal with idiots who simply cannot understand that I do oppose an ideology and not a race. Or take the expression “AngloZionist Empire” which I use (and find very appropriate). Do you know how many times I got an objection to the use of the word “Anglo”? Once. Do you know how often I got attacked for the second part of the expression “Zionist”? Too many to count by now. Though, think of it: “Anglo” is a cultural/ethnic term. “Zionist” is a purely ideological one. Yet it is this second, non-racial, term which gets me accused of being a racist. How frigging stupid can people be? (Pardon my frustration, but I am sooooo tired of idiots!!!). It is a special torture for me to write one thing, and then have to spend time trying to prove to semi-literate morons that I did not write what they thought I wrote but that what I wrote is actually what I wrote (would seem self-evident, but no, not to some idiots).
Anyway, end of rant here. I get off my soap box, take a deep breath, drink a glass of water, wipe the sweat of my brow and feel a mixture of relief (felt good to yell) and guilt (my God, did I really yell for that long?!).
Remember the one-time comments rule for this section in blue, or you will be offended again. Speaking of offending. I apologize if anything I wrote above offended anybody. No, I don’t care if I ruffled some hyper politically-correct and sensitive feathers. But if I did really offend somebody I apologize. Like you I am just a fallible human being who has a very long record of being wrong.
The other interesting development in the Ukraine is the growing evidence that the junta is grossly under-reporting its losses. For example, there is very good evidence that two armored personnel carriers and even one infantry fighting vehicles were completely destroyed by the resistance. There is no way that the number of casualties could be 7 as announced by the junta. A figure of at least 15-20 would be much more likely. Some sources in the combat area are claiming that the real number of killed junta soldiers is close to one hundred. What is certain is that the military commander of the resistance have now declared that they will engage in offensive combat operations and that all Ukie soldiers – whether conscripts of hired guns – will killed.
At the same time, military coordinator of Lugansk Resistance, Vladimir Karasiuk, declared that Donetsk and Lugansk will not unite because it is indispensable to unify all the regions of the southwest, including Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhie, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa.
This might all be bluster, I have no way of checking, but it sounds to me like the resistance in the Donbass is getting much more confident. Finally, I have seen some combat footage showing what are clearly well-trained and well-equipped Donbass resistance units preparing for an ambush. This was not the typical ragtag force mix of civilians with hunting rifles, young men with pretend semi-uniforms and a few old guys with beer bellies. The footage showed a well camouflaged unit silently progressing though vegetation while keeping in radio contact with their commanders. Also, at least one pro-resistance website mentions radio intercepts of the junta forces radio communications. Nice. It looks to me that the resistance might well be getting better organized and better equipped.
Stay tuned, I will soon have a report about worldwide reactions to the events in the Ukraine.
Ooops – here is a tornado warning here.
Gotta run.
Be back later!
The Saker
American Kulak said….
He said the Anglo-American empire uses the Israelis as its ‘gurkhas’ — no offense meant to the Muslim soldiers of the British Empire who sometimes fought honorably under that name.
You might insult them by calling them Muslim as they are actually Hindu.
Stivan.
Another Norwegian,
“When a people behaves this way, I see nothing wrong in discriminating against them on a collective basis, and refuse to let them live among us.”
To be livid or disgusted is one thing; but to discriminate against all members of a group because of a stereotype? How bad does the stereotype have to be? Alcoholism, violence, stupidity, name an undesirable trait or behavior, and it’s ok to discriminate against an entire group as long as someone (who? which someone?) decides it’s offensive enough? There has to be a better way than that, don’t you think? Because what you’re recommending is every bit as arrogant, atavistic and, yes, tribal, as the group you are castigating for their clannish behavior! Don’t have any of them for friends if you don’t like, but please tell me you’re not serious about trying to kick people out — of anywhere — because of what they happen to have been born.
No question, people are just people, and the differences are software (culture, religion, education) rather than hardware (race).
However, there seems to be a disproportionate number of Jewish oligarchs in Ukraine, given the ethnic composition of the population. Why is this? Is there a cultural reason, or is there some other reason (eg helping other members of the self-identified group)?
“He said the Anglo-American empire uses the Israelis as its ‘gurkhas’ — no offense meant to the Muslim soldiers of the British Empire who sometimes fought honorably under that name.”
“You might insult them by calling them Muslim as they are actually Hindu.”
My mistake.
As for Saker’s reply, I agree 100% on Dugin. There is just something OFF about him like Pope Francis, even when they are making statements that I might agree with (and that’s a bizarre juxtaposition of two figures besides).
I am still trying to understand the implications. Does this mean that to stay faithfully Orthodox in America one had better become Greek, or Serbian, or whatever other ‘national’ church (ahhh the great sin of Orthodox in America…national worship as opposed to Christ worship) is present? Perhaps the Antiochians? Or in Russia itself to go Georgian or Armenian (were not those Churches also ‘compromised’ by the Bolshevik yoke)? It seems unclear to condemn the whole visible body of the Moscow Patriarchate for the sins of its fathers and grandfathers (in the literal sense, not just spiritual forebears).
The last person I read who made that point happened to be a nominal Greek Orthodox Christian who rightly observed that it is much easier to be Greek than it is to be a Christian. But he would never accept the converse and say it is much easier to be an American who worships the false god of the NSA/’IC’ Surveillance State or even his own ‘expertise’ over worshipping the Triune God and Him alone.
I suppose I should study that wonderful prayer ‘Bless My Enemies O Lord’ by St. Nicholai Velimorevic, because even enemies of the Constitution and of true American liberty have taught me much.
Now see you Saker have gone and made me break my promise not to post further. I will really desist from this thread and leave the floor to others this time.
AK
Oh good Lord. Am SO tired of talking about jews and judaism. The next time someone uses the term “Judeo-Christian” I’m gonna scream. Christ was the antidote to tribalism. He rendered it OBSOLETE. It’s done. Over. Finito. If someone wants to practice judaism — knock yourself out. Doesn’t bother me. In. The. Least. But stop the crap about anti-Semitism because I have NEVER, EVER dissed Palestinians. Not even once. And based on Johns Hopkins research — they are ACTUAL semetics.
The only thing jews love more than talking about themselves — is when YOU talk about them. Enough already. I’d MUCH rather discuss and learn about Orthodox Christianity. Something which might actually do me some good.
Oh. Thanks for posting that conversation too. I expected Oligarchs to be “unseemly”. But these guys totally exceeded my wildest expectations. If I were Baron Rothschild, I wouldn’t want my DNA associated with theirs. Then again. Oligarchs are not what they used to be.
And “Quelle Surprise” Israel is playing footsies with Russia and two-timing the US. It’s a toss-up who to despise most — Israel or those idiots at DOS. They both take our money and spill our blood. And when the chit hits the fan — build another holocaust memorial. With taxpayer money. But I digress.
Sincerely,
AGS (an-oh-so-tired-of-it-all-goyem-muppet)
@KC: Just a note there have been such core evils in Christian sects as well.
I am afraid that there is an inappropriate play on the word “core”. The talk was about the core of Rabinical Judaism.
The “core” of Christianity is actually the Church. Without the Church there is no Christianity.
The “sects” are splinters from the Church, therefore not “core”, they are actually outside the Church. “Christian sects” is an oxymoron. They are at the “core” Judaism wrapped in deceptive Christian language.
OOPS…I double posted…my bad…nite-nite all. AGS
Another home run for the Saker.
I am glad that someone is finally doing a balanced and intellectually honest analysis of Judaism for the world to see. It’s about bloody time. I have had many Jewish friends throughout my life. Most Jews are decent, ordinary people. But the manipulators and other destructive elements within the Jewish population have been allowed to use their ethnic/religious identity as a shield for far too long. The insistence of the elites and their dupes and shills (Jewish and otherwise) that any discussion of this topic is “racist” and therefore off bounds does a disservice to all of humanity. We all know, for instance, that most of the leading neo-cons have been Jewish intellectuals. We also know that many of the worst scumbags on Wall Street, Hollwood and in the US government (like Bernie Madoff, Lloyd Blankfein, Roman Polanski, Saul Zaentz, Paul Wolfowitz, Dianne Feinstein and Barney Frank, to name a few of the more infamous examples) are Jewish, and use their tribal identity as a shield. And look at the role that Jewish extremists like Trotsky played in the Bolshevik revolution.
It also invariably provokes periodic backlashes like the pogroms. The Holocaust was only the most recent and destructive of these backlashes. Sadly, it’s ordinary Jews who are victimized when these backlashes occur, and not the evil ones whose activities give other Jews a bad name. It’s high time the Jewish community disavows these evildoers plaguing Wall Street, Hollywood, Versailles-on-the-Potomac and elsewhere and disavows the racist ideology as presented in the Talmud and elsewhere. Israel Finkelstein, a leading Israeli archaeologist, has argued that Judaism as a religion was essentially cooked up by a corrupt and power hungry temple priesthood in Jerusalem as a means of gaining power over the Hebrew people and supported by unscrupulous rulers like King Josiah who saw Talmudic Judaism as a useful tool for their political and military ambitions. The first victims of the Pharisaic elites and the corrupt priests were ordinary Hebrews who were forced to bow down to a totalitarian theocracy or be killed.
I know the Saker has talked about doing an extended discussion and analysis of these topics, and I hope he continues. This is a discussion we all need to have, and to Hell with political correctness! The truth is starting to come out, and we need to not only break the silence, but break the power of these evil manipulators as well. The best way to start is by exposing what has really been going on and shining the light of truth on these people and their machinations, in such a way that it can no longer be ignored. The truth shall set us all free.
@AK:Does this mean that to stay faithfully Orthodox in America one had better become Greek, or Serbian, or whatever other ‘national’ church (ahhh the great sin of Orthodox in America…national worship as opposed to Christ worship) is present?
Not at all! Nationality should have no place in the choice of a Church. There is only one question which matters here: is it THE true Church of Christ. Has it preserved the faith “which the Lord gave, was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers. On this was the Church founded; and if anyone departs from this, he neither is nor any longer ought to be called a Christian” (Saint Athanasios)? Is it confessing that “which has been believed everywhere, always and by all” (Saint Vicent of Lerins). In case you wonder, I am an ethnic Russian and I married a Russian, we speak Russian at home and, well, you can tell that I am a tad involved in Russian issues. Yet I attend a nominally Greek parish in which all the parishioners are Americans. Before that, I was in another nominally Greek parish with roughly 80% Ukrainians, 15% Anglo-Americans, a few Russians and one genuine bona-fide Greek man. And before that I attended also a nominally Greek parish with a Lebanese clergy and mostly Anglo-Americans. But my confessor is the rector of an ethnically Russian parish, but under the same Greek Church. As my (Ukrainian) parish priest used to say – what difference does our nationality make when the angels as ministering with Christ?
Another thing which should not matter is what I call “the geographical solution”: pick the “least bad” parish within driving distance from your home. For a while, I had to travel 3 days one way to get to my parish, and I never regretted it.
There is only one thing that matters: finding a church which has remained part of The Church. Nothing else matters.
Does this make sense to you or does it sound crazy?
Kind regards,
The Saker
WizOz:
“Christian sects” is an oxymoron. They are at the “core” Judaism wrapped in deceptive Christian language.
Actually Judaism (not Talmudism) is closer to Christianity than are the sects.
Judaism is the true revealed religion but with the rejection that the God-Man Jesus was God and Christ. The sects are not the true revealed religion – they are the aglomerated opinions of the adherents, and the object of their faith is not God, but their own opinions. Ultimately, they are a form of self-worship. This is why so many Protestants are far more concerned about their image in public as opposed to personal holiness of character. The continual cast of Christian adulterers in Washington are the epitome of this type of vain personality.
The topic of Jewish influence is primarily about the agenda of a few hyper-wealthy, ethnocentric Jewish oligarchs and their stooges (both Gentile & Jewish alike) rather than about the average Jew.
For those of your readers who want to read a fascinating interview about Jewish ehtnopolitics this interview of paleoconservative Jew Paul Gottfried by a Jewish convert Luke Ford is a must read:
Paleoconservative Intellectual Paul Gottfried Interviewed by Luke Ford
@Saker
As you seem to be using some kind of debian, why not archive your web page using httrack?
This – and a couple hours of waiting – gets you a complete offline replica of your blog.
Here you go:
apt-get install httrack
NAME=saker-snapshot-$(date “+%Y%m%d”) mkdir $NAME; cd $NAME
httrack http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
N.B. David from Sweden had the same idea. I am currently checking it out, and it looks good so far in the browser (although I didn’t cut my network connection to make sure no online stuff gets displayed). httrack’s been running for more than 40 minutes now, and I have no idea how long it will take (for some reason, my network download speed doing this is only some 30KiB/s)
Honk
Saker:
There can be no question whatsoever that in Patristic terms the followers of Met. Sergius were “lapsed” and that the only question is the modalities by which the lapsed can be *received back* into the Church and by the Church. One cannot simply decide to self re-join the Church.
Being a sinnner does not make one lapsed, nor does fleeing from martyrdom. Martyrdom is a heroic act to which few are called. God does not judge those who keep quiet and keep to themselves as Jesus did before his accusers. The Church on earth is not the society of the perfect, otherwise there would be no need of the Sacrament of Confession. Further, subordinates do not have the right to judge their superiors in the Church, but should obey them in docility except for commands to sin or the preaching of heresy. To act otherwise is presumptuous. If you truly had such wisdom from God to correctly judge your ecclesiastic superior, would not God have already known this and made you the leader and them subordinate to you for the good of souls? The very fact that one is not the leader should be enough cause to suspend judgement of the acts of superiors.
One cannot follow a heirarch into sin simply by continuing to go to the Church on Sunday. One no more participates in their sin by receiving the Eucharist from them than one does by joining in worship with fellow parishoners, some of whom undoubtedly are sinners.
True religion is to live out personally the tradition of the Fathers, to receive the sacraments, and to live in peace with your brothers in all simplicity. A man who cannot come together in a brotherly way with his fellow worshippers because of some perceived fault of a heirarch over whom he truly has no control or authority is a man suffering from the pride that caused the Fall – thinking he alone can rightly judge good and evil and thus truly making himself the Pope of his own mind in a jurisdiction of one.
The great error of all of Church history is to scatter apart from the Church, incorrectly secure in the false knowledge that somehow all the rest of the Church has got it wrong, but God be thanked, you have it right. Hence the constant warning of the Father’s – Outside the Church there is no salvation. Most certainly one cannot go wrong by simply continuing to worship and believe the way the Father’s did within the bonds of the communion of the Church. Clinging to tradition in the Church is the sure safety from all false shepherds that might hope to lead one out of the fold or induce you to follow them in sin.
No one has said it yet, so I will.
The actions of Kolomoisky in the Odessa and Mariupol massacres are a reverse Pogrom, with the boot now on the other foot in the relation between Jew and Cossack.
We should refer to these events as the Novorossiyan Pogroms.
Lets call a spade a spade.
Sadly, this will be my last comment here also. I am Russian Orthodox, and Saker doesn’t speak for all Orthodox, but has a right to express his opinions for sure. Thank you, Saker, for so much good information on the situation in Ukraine. That has not been available anywhere else. I feel sad to leave, as I won’t be as well informed on the issue from now on.
Please, everyone, don’t hate. It’s not a good thing.
@ juliania,
Hi, Always believe religion have no place in political discussion. Anyone can believe what he
wants, satan, god or whatever, that’s your business. Keep it to yourself. PERIOD.
Bye
@Andrew:Being a sinnner does not make one lapsed
correct
nor does fleeing from martyrdom
wrong. you are contradicting a core belief of the Church for 2000 years.
Further, subordinates do not have the right to judge their superiors in the Church
Wrong again. Very typical of a Latin Christian I would add. You cannot join your superior in schism or in openly preached heresy, as for moral or personal sins, you can petition a clerical court to judge your superiors. Read the canon law of the Fathers. Why do you think the faithful get to veto any ordination by simply saying “anaxios”?
One cannot follow a heirarch into sin simply by continuing to go to the Church on Sunday
Wrong again. If your hierarch lapsed, then you have to oppose him and break communion with him. Church history is full of such examples.
The great error of all of Church history is to scatter apart from the Church
This sentence has no meaning in an Orthodox context. Only a Latin could come up with such a notion. Saint Paul put it best: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Outside the Church there is no salvation
Indeed. But the Church is where the bishop is. No bishop – no Church. False bishop – again no Church.
Andrew, you truly have some bizarre notions of Christianity. Did it ever occur to you that Saint Maximos the Confessor was no a clergyman at all. And yet, he opposed all the Patriarchs. Even when he was told that the Patriarch of Rome had joined the Monothelites (which was a lie) he replied “The whole world may enter into communion with the Patriarch, but I will not”. Interesting, no? A simple monk dares to declare that he will not follow a Patriarch he alone deems heretical even if the whole world enters into communion with him! Quite a difference with your “obedience unto salvation” idea, no?
In matters of faith, all Christians are equal – we all are guardians of that faith, not just our hierarchs. God gave that ultimate dignity – the freedom and duty to personally uphold His Truth. He did not tell us to just follow some supposed “authority”. It took the Latins 8 centuries to finally declare that a Pope is infallible. But for 20 centuries the Church has continued to teach that which the Fathers knew: that no man is infallible and that therefore each of us carries the full burden of upholding the truth.
The Saker
The Saker
RT has good coverage with context of the eavesdropped phonecalls:
http://rt.com/news/159168-kiev-businessman-massacre-mariupol/
@Honk: are you going to download the whole enchilada? If yes, can you send me a DVD with it?
Thanks,
The Saker
@Actually Judaism (not Talmudism) is closer to Christianity than are the sects.
Actually Judaism and Talmudism are practically the same thing. Judaism does not designate the “religion” of the Old Testament. It is a linguistic term.
Let the philologists speak. The following are excerpts from a study by Steve Mason of
York University
August 2009, “Methods and Categories: Judaism and Gospel”.
“On the linguistic side, Greek –ismos nouns are deceptive. They do not indicate “isms” in the English sense of ideologies or belief systems (Anglicanism, Buddhism, atheism, Stalinism). Rather, they are the noun forms of actions described by verbs in –iζω, or –ize as we would say. So, the verbs ostrakiζω, Attikiζω, Lakωniζω, exorkiζω, and baptiζω produce corresponding nouns in –ismos, but these do not indicate systems. They are actions, best translated as gerunds: ostracism means ostracizing, Laconism is Spartanizing, and baptism is a sinking or dunking. Moreover, the cultural subgroup of these terms, such as Attikismos, Lakωnismos, and Medismos or Persismos (both = Persianizing), had distinctively negative connotations. They had become popular during the fifth century, in the political strife that racked the Greek cities, first in their struggles with Parthia and then during the Peloponnesian wars. They referred to the defection of cities or individuals to the Persians or, in the Greek wars, to Athens or Sparta. Even if such capitulation could not be avoided, it was less than glorious behavior in a society that placed a premium on faithfulness to the laws and customs of one’s own city (polis), and it was traditional for citizens to do battle on a summer afternoon with any other city that attempted to impose itself.
Ioudaismos would most naturally be understood, therefore, as a going over to or alignment with Judaean law and culture. Although this happened, and both Philo and Josephus are happy to celebrate it, Josephus even uses the verb Judaize a couple of times in discussing the background of the Judaean War (War 2.454, 463, in keeping with his habit of reusing a term within a short space and dropping it)—they avoid the more odious connotations of what Tacitus (Hist. 5.4) and others criticized: the abandonment of one’s native and family traditions to embrace those of foreigners”.
Judaism then is properly “going over to the ways of the Judaeans”. But the ways of the Judaeans were not exactly the ways of the tradition of the Prophets. The Talmud grew from the arguties of the Pharisees which were a “school” or (Greek) “hairesis”, which Jesus denounced with particular force as falsifying the Word of God.
@juliania: I am saddened by your decision, though I have seen that attitude often enough not to be surprised by it any more. I sincerely wish you well.
The Saker
There is no doubt that the unarmed or lightly armed check point guards are not the main line fighters around Slavyansk and Donbas in general.
Here’s a little vid from couple or so nights ago showing a BMP shooting up a Right Sector lager and ammo dump at night. In the silent parts you can clearly hear explosions and shouts from the bad guys. It is also very obvious the BMP has a forward observer correcting the fall of shot. Ragtag rabble? Not in this instance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJW75AKNxdY
Look at it this way. Most of the Right Sector and Svoboda thugs are city boys. Here they are in an unfamiliar area, out in ‘the sticks’ with little idea of what’s really around them. The local boys know every hollow, fence, village back alley and rabbit path. You think they will not make life miserable for the thugs? Guess again.
Toss in the volunteers who have gone to Donbas and Lugansk to help out, most with extensive military experience, the locals who have military experience, and the really peeved locals who have lost relatives to the Kiev thugs and one can figure that things will be unpleasant for both Right Sector and the Uke Army today, actually starting last night.
Casualty reports from Kiev are, like everything else emanating from that smoldering ruin of maidan, a fantasy. I would estimate, based on what people in the know have told me, that Uke Army and RS losses are well over 400 as of yesterday morning.
The reality is most of the Uke Army is unreliable and are, with the exception of a very few units, relegated to guard duty. It is Right Sector who are doing most of the ‘fighting’, read killing, and my opinion is in a stand up fight or the type of night fighting and daylight ambushing going on Right Sector doesn’t have much of a chance. We’ll see over the next few days.
@Where-Wolf: thank you for your kind words. Speaking the truth can be heart-breaking and it always alienates people who don’t want to hear it. The worst thing is that each time I touch upon a subject that is really important I know that I will catch hell for it. Apparently most people simply cannot cope with having doubts cast upon their certitudes and they either lash out or slam the door. I can’t tell you how many times I have posted things here knowing full well that only a minority will agree or, at least, “agree to disagree”. There are those precious few who say “I don’t agree with you, but I appreciate your honesty in speaking your mind”. Most people, in my experience, don’t operate that way, alas. But believe me, seeing the kind of reaction like Juliania just had to my crimethink is very depressing and discouraging. I even prefer insults and hate mail to that kind of total ostracism. But if that is the price to pay to remain true to myself and to those whom I consider my spiritual elders, then so be it.
But, again, thank you for your kind words. You have no idea how much I take these things to heart and how hard it is on days like these to keep going. Without that kind of moral support I could simply not do it any further.
Kind regards and good nite,
The Saker
Why are there no statistics on the percentage of Jews who are Zionists? Why doesn’t anyone dare to expose these facts? Is this denial or is it a deliberate attempt to conceal the truth?
For starters: the overwhelming majority of Jews in Israel are Zionists. In the U.S., the majority of Jews support Zionism. Therefore millions of Jews in both these countries support Zionism.
And just what is Zionism? Zionism is not just a homeland for the Jewish people. Far from it. One shitty, little fascist country masquerading as a democaracy gets unconditional veto protection from the most powerful nation on earth as well as other significant advantages not merely because it’s a homeland for the Jewish people. Zionism has proven to be racism, but not just racism; supremacist racism. Supremacy is always based on harnassing absolute power for a superior race.
If in fact there were that many Jews who don’t support Zionism; then Zionism would already be defeated and would be part of the infamy of the past; but it’s still going strong.
So the question therefore remains: why is Zionism so powerful in today’s world despite its supremacist nature which should be condemned and defeated after what happened with the Nazis?
Once anyone harnasses that much power; it’s not easily surrendered. There are probably many Jews who pretend they care squat about Zionism but they don’t go out of their way to condemn it either, because Zionism promotes and secures Jewish power and as I said it’s hard to reject power even when it comes at the expense of the rights of others.
@Auslander: great video. I loved it! Could have watched it for another few hours. You are correct: there are at leas two correctors, one seems to have some kind of night vision, plus they are in radio contact with their command. Their mood was obviously excellent and they were having a great time laughing at the incompetent and confused reaction of the National Guard (i.e. death squads) to an attack they clearly did not expect.
Great vid, thanks a lot!
Kind regards,
The Saker
@Saker
Serious question for you Saker. By now I’ve seen a lot of discussion about the long-term direction of Ukraine’s South-East, from splitting it off, annexing it to Russia, or using it to force Kiev to agree to federalization.
What I have seen little discussion of is the fate of what I call the “North-Eastern” Oblasts. These would be Chernigov/Chernihiv, Poltava and Sumy. All of them lie east of the Dnieper, two of them have long borders with Russia, and the territory as a whole had been part of Russia since the 17th century until the Revolution, before that it seemed to have no permanent population. Yet today they seem quite Ukrainian in language and character, if not quite as fanatical as the West.
When this whole mess started a few months ago, there were grumblings in Chernigov that the Russians were massing on their borders, but since then nothing. The region has a significant minority of Russian-Speakers, is rather underpopulated, and seems like a side-show. However in the long run if Russia wants to secure its interest in Eastern Ukraine these oblasts will play a big role since they fill the space between Kharkov and Kiev and expose Russia’s borders if not secured.
What is your take on it if I may ask? I know you hate to speculate, but I’m curious to your opinion on this ‘forgotten’ territory. Thanks for your time.
Saker and Andrew
“
Outside the Church there is no salvation”.
“Indeed.”
Then what am I make of Romans 2:12-16?
“12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.”
Dear Saker,
I don’t think any decent person would criticise you too much for holding firm to your beliefs. Nor do I think they are uncommon for many well-intentioned people who understand that the Jews are not entirely the innocent darlings they are portrayed to be in the Western media.
The Jewish problem is a complex and difficult one and one in which a “solution” is not trivial.
Autonomous gentile nations who wish to hold on to their core cultural and racial identity and whom understand history have a difficult challenge when dealing with Jews.
As much as they may wish to do so, they can not simply remove all Jews from the face of the planet. If they allow Jews the opportunity to be citizens and rise to power as so often as has happened in history, the Jews who make it to the top have abused this power and turned it on their gentile hosts while furthering their tribal interests.
Their methods throughout the ages have been subtle, such as their manipulation of money and banking (which Christ himself railed against) and often times, they have destroyed their host nation outright, so is it not understandable that intellectual thinkers of autonomous gentile nations see wisdom in excluding Jews positions of power and influence in their societies?
The Byzantine Empire is an example of a society that did so and it survived for 1000 years. Yet many Jews will argue that being excluded from power is “oppression” of course.
Thus there is the ongoing conflict throughout history of nation states vs the Jewish “state” (a nation within a nation) it is also why organised Jewery are intent on pushing the world towards a one world government system in which all cultures and peoples are mixed into one giant melting point. After all, this is the perfect solution to their “nation problem”.
There is no doubt that, as you say, ideology has played a large part in many of the social problems attributed to Jews throughout history and addressing this supremacist attitude would go a long way to solving the problem. I also agree with you that Jews are not a race, but I have to disagree that the is no biological basis in Jewery.
Jews are a mixture of many different races, but share a common lineage. I understand they have practiced Eugenics in their communities at various times in history, so to say that there is no biological basis in Judiasm is not entirely accurate.
Disclaimer: I am speaking generally about the group behavior of Jewish groups throughout history for the purpose of illustrating the larger issue of the Jewish question and not against all Jews as individuals.
Saker, I loved your rant and endorse it 100%. I’ve watched Exodus, read Finkelstein and Sand, spent most of my 73 years enjoying my Jewish friends as well as my non-Jewish ones. Our tribe was defined as people who can converse intelligently.
I have one question I hope you can help me with (a web site would be most useful because I live in Malaysia and don’t have access to the best English-language libraries or book stores.
My question: How do you define Rabbinical Judaism? or What would you contrast Rabbinical Judaism to?
I understand your ‘Anglozionism’ neologism perfectly and have added it to my spell-check dictionary. But I’m ignorant enough to not know what you mean by Rabbinical Judaism and don’t trust Wikipedia to give me the straight scoop on what it is you refer to by that term.
I know you vet all comments these days. (Good idea!) But a personal reply to this one would be deeply appreciated. I do read the many comments you receive–particularly since you are filtering them, but I might miss a reply that is merely posted.
Macon Richardson
Penang Island, Malaysia
Saker, I loved your rant and endorse it 100%. I’ve watched Exodus, read Finkelstein and Sand, spent most of my 73 years enjoying my Jewish friends as well as my non-Jewish ones. Our tribe was defined as people who can converse intelligently.
I have one question I hope you can help me with (a web site would be most useful because I live in Malaysia and don’t have access to the best English-language libraries or book stores.
My question: How do you define Rabbinical Judaism? or What would you contrast Rabbinical Judaism to?
I understand your ‘Anglozionism’ neologism perfectly and have added it to my spell-check dictionary. But I’m ignorant enough to not know what you mean by Rabbinical Judaism and don’t trust Wikipedia to give me the straight scoop on what it is you refer to by that term.
I know you vet all comments these days. (Good idea!) But a personal reply to this one would be deeply appreciated. I do read the many comments you receive–particularly since you are filtering them, but I might miss a reply that is merely posted.
Macon Richardson
Penang Island, Malaysia
@saker
“The worst thing is that each time I touch upon a subject that is really important I know that I will catch hell for it”
Even if it is hard, please put one of these topics(regarding semitism) in once in a while. There is so much to lean from the comments alone.
“I *DO* very much oppose Jewish tribalism (and any other tribalism for that matter).”
When you talk about the Russian soul is that not a type of tribalism? There is no end to being politically correct.
“Jews being a race”
By definition of race, true, they are not a race. The Quran refers to them as a people, like children of Israel, or people of the book. Common in beliefs.
“which is also ruled by its own 1%. Just like non-Jews”
The percentage here might differ. Hate to point this out, but the 1% ruling over us is mostly Jewish.
“But NO, they are not typical of a Jewish community which is every bit as complex and diverse as any other”
An excellent movie is The Infidel starring Omid Djalili, a Bahai actor playing a Muslim man who finds out he’s a Jew.
@WizOz
“Could the reason for this silence be:”
I’ve not heard or seen the Jewish religion being missionary. Their unfavourable view of Jesus(a.s) would benefit if they wanted to proselytise. Otherwise it only angers others, so it’s prudent and polite to avoid mention.
Mindfriedo
Dear All,
My question to you all is : what made the Jews think of themselves as a “chosen people” and most importantly continue with this trend for so long.
What is their motivation here ?
I would be eagerly awaiting for your useful viewpoints.
Take care
Debanjan
> In Africa, there is such a … such a poison …
What was Tsarev trying to get at here? Try to threaten back
will someone clarify what is going on in mariopul and the role of akhmetov workers in it?
Just a few points which I believe are at the core of current confusions surrounding Judaism and its role in current events:
Firstly, I agree that there is no valid DNA/genetic marker for Judaism. Like others here, I agree entirely with Gilad Atzmon and his ‘identity politics described to cogently in his book ‘The Wandering Who’. IOW – ‘Common humanity’ is my starting point for any and all disputes involving self-identifying/defining groups of people. But ‘The Jews’ as a self-identifying diaspora remain fundamental to understanding what is going on in the world. As with any other self-identifying group, the ‘plebs’ haven’t a clue what is going on; but for the most part they are good ‘foot-soldiers’ and ‘cannon fodder’ for the “Occult Judaic” structures that wield massive influence over them – The Mossad for example has the best and most widely dispersed network of ANY of the worlds intelligence services.
The plain, unarguable fact is that throughout the 2,000 years of the Jewish Diaspora, there has been specifically Jewish influence and involvement in pretty well all historic events of significance – and rarely on the side of host country interests either. Oft-times that influence/involvement has been of great – even determining – importance. For most of this time, the role of Jews in these events has been well understood and openly discussed by both the elites and populations of their host countries. But since the end of World War II any such discussion, other than in the context of the Jews as history’s eternal victims, has become taboo – THAT is the key to understanding. Why the taboo? What is its REAL purpose?
IMO, the central, overriding obstacle to understanding the role of Judaism and the geo-political situation surrounding Ukraine, Syria etc is the de-facto acceptance and use by all interested parties, of Nazism and Hitler as the defining standards of pure evil in the world for organisations and individuals. It is probably THE cleverest subterfuge of both Occult Judaism and the “Anglo-American fraternities” (as Guido Preparara dubs them) in keeping the western world AND Russia in a state of utter confusion. It clearly identifies the un-holy alliance of REAL evils cooperating to defenestrate Russia – Viz Occult Judaism and the Occult Anglo-US fraternities
Until people understand that, bad though Nazi ideology undoubtedly was, both it and Hitler were analogous to the Homunculous of Edmund Dalpe’s recent satirical The IMF Bank Job piece – conjured into existence and manipulated by the forces of REAL evil.
In this respect it is a major disappointment to me that Putin – like Germany, France, Austria and others – has now enacted similar ‘Hate laws’ to defend the absurdities of both the Nuremberg and Holocaust narratives. I just hope he knows what he is doing on that one but I fear otherwise. It seems to me that he is probably ingratiating himself with those same Occult Judaic forces that ALWAYS play both side (we will lead every rebellion against us as Theodore Hertz once opined) – in preparation for ‘backing the winner’ as they always do. Putin really does need to watch his back.
BTW and to be clear, by “Occult Judaism” I mean the hidden core of Pharisaical Talmudic Judaism.
Saker, in case nobody else has already suggested it, I have an idea: why don’t you set up a webpage somewhere with a glossary of terms, explaining to readers what you mean by them. That way, as more people begin to visit your (excellent!) blog, you won’t have to explain yourself over and over. You just cut and paste hyperlinks into terms like ‘AngloZionist’, so people can click and inform themselves. What do you think?
Interesting what they discuss in their synagogues…
Oops
Wrong article referenced in previous comments. Should have been Dmitry Orlov’s “Statecraft or Witchcraft”
The Edmund Dalpe article is a cracking good read too though.
A rough translation of the Israeli statement broadcast to no one in particular is probably:
He is not one of ours or under our protection.
We would be understanding if you were minded to make the hit.
This could be similar to briefing Sadaam Hussein prior to Kuwait, but whatever happened to Stepan Bandera?
Spanish Air Controller expelled by Ukraine…
Acabo de saber que a Carlos @spainbuca han expulsado de Ucrania con una acusacion de “instigador y espia”
pic.twitter.com/aVvEz6Ms05
@Auslander….good stuff there, mate, had to labour through a 100 posts on Jews, Muslims, Masons and god knows what else to get to that but it was worth it. To my non-military eye, it looked at one stage like the Ukies were firing blindly back in panic after setting off the flare. And as you said, it would tie into the notion that parts of the regime’s military apparatus are incompetent, frightened, lacking local knowledge, etc & capable only of terrorising & shooting at unarmed civilians when they get the chance.
@In this respect it is a major disappointment to me that Putin – like Germany, France, Austria and others – has now enacted similar ‘Hate laws’ to defend the absurdities of both the Nuremberg and Holocaust narratives.
I am very much afraid that this move would disappoint many more people and alienate many virtual friends. It plays directly in the hands of those who accuse Putin of the intention to restore the Soviet Union. It would embitter a lot more people who would certainly view it as a betrayal. It would confirm the persistent rumors that he is a puppet of the same forces that he seems to fight against. Maybe there are some “gambit” considerations, but it may look also that “they” have been subtler, forcing him into a corner.
G’day Saker,
You correctly say that Jews are not a race. You extrapolate from that fact that Jews’ “racial” identity is an invention. “Like most nations”. You then say that Jews pass on nothing from generation to generation. Arguably though, Jews do pass on something, namely their Talmudic ideology, from generation to generation. So the difference between Jews and most (all other?) nations is therefore that other nations have not invented let alone believed a myth to the effect that they are “God’s Chosen” and that all other people on the planet are soulless animals to be used and abused at whim by them. No other “nation” appears to have adopted that ideology.
Despite their ostensible belief in g-d, Judaism is not a religion since most (75%) of Jews say they don’t believe in god and/or are not religious. Moreover, their law, the Talmud, is a rabid ethno-centric political ideology thinly draped in religious trappings which is force fed to most Jews from cradle to grave. That is why Jews, as a collective, are different from the rest of humanity. The exceptionalist, supremecist belief that they should rule the world enables most Jews to accept the benefits of Judaism.
Arguably those who profess Judaism are telling the world that they are neo-Pharisees since the Talmud was written by Pharisees. Moreover, publicly saying one is a Jew amounts to publicly supporting global Jewry with all its political, ethno-centric and ideological nuances. Even pseudo critics of Israel like Gilad Atzmon always reinforce the HoloHoax lie in a most insidious way. See eg: Gilad Atzmon on German Guilt and Multiculturalism.mp4 – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Ron_71/Gilad-Atzmon-on-German-Guilt-and-Multiculturalism-mp4.shtml
The reasons why people who (as you correctly say) are not a race but still profess Judaism, do that, are obviously matters for speculation. However, there are some obvious advantages to saying one is a Jew. Political, vocational, economic, legal, academic and cultural preferment in all Anglo-USraeli and European environments are obviously among them. And of course being a Jew means one is not subject to the requirements of hate laws either. Indeed, being a Jew enables one to avail oneself of the advantages available to Jews and other minorities under politically correct laws and agendas without being rigorously subject to them in respect of their own words and deeds.
Sooo, all in all, there are very substantial advantages for anyone choosing to be a Jew (because Judaism ie Talmudism, is an ideology, and therefore a matter of personal choice) just as saying one is a Russian Orthodox Christian or a Catholic, is a choice – for any legal adult.
That being the case, one then needs to examine what those who profess Judaism actually do, as an identifiable “tribal” socio-political collective, in order to assess their impact on humanity and the value of their contribution. In my view that implies that it is neither helpful nor appropriate to provide anecdotal “testimony” of what individuals within the collective have done if they never the less support and take the accruing benefits (in the case of Judaism) of the anti-social and anti-human activities of the Judaic collective and its ideological antecedents, namely Khazars and Pharisees.
Hitler loved children and animals yet you, Saker, appear to have no difficulty in publicly vilifying Hitler, National Socialists and Germans, some 68 years after WWII. For instance you constantly label thugs in Ukraine as “Nazis” in an extremely pejorative way. In fact though, the thugs in question are just that, thugs who parade around in what they believe to be National Socialist regalia etc. Moreover, there is a good case for saying that those thugs are in bed with the Jewish oligarchs who have destroyed Ukraine and that their leader is also in constant communication with Israeli authorities.
Blessings,
Ron
Part II follows
@Macon Richardson:My question: How do you define Rabbinical Judaism? or What would you contrast Rabbinical Judaism to?
Good question. Judaism proper is the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the religion of the Old Testament, if you want, the one in which Christ Himself was raised. As you probably now, there were several sects in the Holy Land at the times of Christ, including the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Essenes and others. After the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD only two sects survived: the Christians (who had remembered the warnings of Christ and had largely fled the city) and the Pharisees who not only were an intellectual elite, but also had “assemblies” were they gathered which were not linked to the Temple. These assemblies in Greek are called Synagogues. These two sects engaged in a strong war for the minds and souls of the Jews and, soon, even the non-Jews (as *both* of these groups did proselytize Gentiles). The followers of Christ became what is now known as Christians and some Pharisees joined them (Gamaliel for example). But most Pharisees became sworn enemies of the Christian sect and they developped their own group “specialized” in fighting Christianity. For this they often accused Christians of cannibalism (the Eucharist) and of subversion against the Roman state. They also re-worked the Scripture of expunge it from the passages which were too clearly referring to Jesus-Christ. This group was called the Masoretes and they created the so-called “Masoretic text” of Old Testament (the one still mostly used in the West). Christians stuck to the so-called “Septuagint” text which pre-dates Christ. The Pharisees also had to re-work their entire religion so they came up with a brilliant concept: according to them there were not one, but TWO traditions/laws given to Moses by God: a written and an oral one. The written one was the Masoretic text and the oral one, once written down, became the Talmud and the commentaries to the Talmud. Eventually, they also developed their own system of gnosticism and magic which became known as the Kabala. So they replaced the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob with the faith of occultists like Maimonides, Karo and Luria. It became a Satanic anti-Christianity, in which the worship of God was replace with self-worship and in which the promise made by God to all of mankind (“And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice”) was replaced by a racist ideology in which “choseness” was no more a calling but as a status. All the current forms of Orthodox Judaism have their roots in this movement. The only other group which did survive and did not lapse in what could be called “Talmudism” are the Karaites which are very few in number. There are also some Samaritans still left in the Holy Land. But the modern synagogue traces its roots to the original sect of the Pharisees which we know from the Four Holy Gospels. Their teachers, by the way, were called Rabbis (which even Christ was called several during His life). This is why I call it “rabbinical Judaism” but it would be even more appropriate to call it “Phariseic Talmudism”.
Does that answer your question adequately?
Kind regards,
The Saker
G’day Saker – Part II
As regards your use of the pejorative epithet “Nazis” please be aware that National Socialists never called themselves “Nazis”, rather the term was coined by a Jew as part of global Jewry’s demonisation of Germany in the 1930s, preparatory to Jewry’s launching of WWII in order to genocide Germans and destroy their nation. (1) See eg: Exposing the “Nazi” Epithet – Who started it, why, how, and who benefits. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Exposing-the-Nazi-Epithet-Who-started-it-why-how-and-who-benefits.shtml
Exposing the ‘Nazi’ Epithet Part 2 – Anti-Hitlerism: The Rise of Pure BS and Hatred. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Exposing-the-Nazi-Epithet-Part-2-Anti-Hitlerism-The-Rise-of-Pure-BS-and-Hatred.shtml
(1) In 1871 Albert Pike wrote to Mazzini outlining how WWII would be arranged and fought. He was right. Was that just a lucky guess? Germany had to be built up to create a real enemy for Stalin’s Bolsheviks and the Rockefellers and their Anglo-Amerikkan psychopaths to conquer. For Stalin’s preparations to that end see eg: Did Adolf Hitler Save Europe From Communism? -:http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Did-Adolf-Hitler-Save-Europe-From-Communism.shtml
WWII could not have been used to kill 20 million German Christians and 26 million Russian Orthodox Christians as well as many millions of Christian Poles and others IF Germany remained prostrate and impoverished during the 1930s. Germany had to be rehabilitated and that was done by AshkeNAZI bankers and corporatists. But the Jews failed to realise that Hitler would not be a puppet and that the German people were so resourceful, efficient and patriotic that they almost prevented the programmed Soviet and Anglo-US military victory. Apparently Martin Bormann was a Rothschilds agent and he “saved the day” for the Jews. See eg: Bormann Ran Hitler for the Illuminati – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Bormann-Ran-Hitler-for-the-Illuminati.shtml
For some truth on what National Socialism actually was see eg: Rethinking Hitler & National Socialism. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Rethinking-Hitler-National-Socialism.shtml
For some insight into who caused WWII see eg:
WORLD WAR II The JEWS Declared War – AGAINST Germany! NOT the Other Way Around! See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/WORLD-WAR-II-The-JEWS-Declared-War—AGAINST-Germany-NOT-the-Other-Way-Around.shtml
And:
Churchill And Hitler…And History. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Churchill-And-Hitler-And-History.shtml
Incidentally it was not possible for Germany to have “Holocausted” more than 173,000 Jews at Auschwitz because the meticulous German records taken and concealed by Stalin’s Bolshevik from 1945 until 1990, evidence that a total of only 173,000 Jews were ever sent to Auschwitz. See eg: Official German Record of all Prisoners in Auschwitz Concentration Camp from May of 1940 through December of 1944. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Official_German_Record_of_all_Prisoners_in_Auschwi_2737.shtml
Another “official” records source that gives the lie to the humungous number of bogus anecdotal Holocaust stories is at: OFFICIAL RECORDS FROM INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS PROVE “HOLOCAUST” WAS A FRAUD. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/OFFICIAL-RECORDS-FROM-INTERNATIONAL-RED-CROSS-PROVE-HOLOCAUST-WAS-A-FRAUD—Repost.shtml And:
Official Red Cross Records Show Holocaust Was a Fraud? – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Official-Red-Cross-Records-Show-Holocaust-Was-a-Fraud.shtml
For some truth about who holocausted who during WWII see eg: The Zionist Destruction of Germany. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Zionist Destruction-of-Germany.shtml
Blessings,
Ron
@James:Outside the Church there is no salvation”
This is a complex question. Can I please refer you to three articles before we continue this discussion?
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/metphil_heterodox.aspx
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/pomaz_status.aspx
http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/status.aspx
The crucial text to understand the entire soteriological doctrine of the Church (doctrine on salvation) is this one:
http://orthodoxinfo.com/general/theosis-english.pdf
I urge everybody to read this most important and well-written text.
Sorry for referring you to these readings, but some topics are too subtle and complex to be squeezed into a few short paragraphs. Please read these and let me know if you have any questions after, ok?
Kind regards and good reading!
The Saker
@”Jews being a race”
Can one possibly disregard the fact that the Jews marry only between themselves, thus creating a blood kinship displaying common features?
G’day Saker – Part III
GRUESOME HARVEST The Costly Attempt To Exterminate The People of Germany http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/GRUESOME-HARVEST-The-Costly-Attempt-To-Exterminate-The-People-of-Germany.shtml
Does Russia become involved in Poland’s war crimes of the past? See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Does-Russia-become-involved-in-Poland-s-war-crimes-of-the-past.shtml
The pilots of Bomber Command cannot be called heroes. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-pilots-of-Bomber-Command-cannot-be-called-heroes.shtml
A Real Holocaust: Dresden, 13 February 1945: http://globalfire.tv/nj/08en/history/dresden.htm
Dachau – The fraudulent stories of “extermination” and “homicidal gas chambers”. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Dachau_-_The_fraudulent_stories_of_extermination_a_3963.shtml
Documentary: Eisenhower’s Rhine Meadows Death Camps – A Deliberate Policy of Extermination. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Documentary-Eisenhower-s-Rhine-Meadows-Death-Camps-A-Deliberate-Policy-of-Extermination.shtml
The Deliberate Starvation of Germany. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/The-Deliberate-Starvation-of-Germany.shtml
Did the Allies Starve Millions of Germans? See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Did-the-Allies-Starve-Millions-of-Germans.shtml
Documents on Real History: Col (retd) Gerhart Schirmer. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Documents-on-Real-History-Col-retd-Gerhart-Schirmer.shtml
To understand who sought to genocide Germans during and after WWII see eg: What To Do With Germany. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/What-To-Do-With-Germany.shtml
The Morgenthau Plan for Israel. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Morgenthau-Plan-for-Israel.shtml
Although the Jews did not totally genocide Germans they have destroyed and totally enslaved that sovereign nation. See eg: Germany is an occupied country and it will stay that way. – President Barach Obama (cdu-politik.de/ 27.April 2012
The Federal Republic of Germany, A Rothschildian Financial Agency See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Federal-Republic-of-Germany-A-Rothschildian-Financial-Agency.shtml
West German Justice and So-Called National Socialist Violent Crimes. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/West-German-Justice-and-So-Called-National-Socialist-Violent-Crimes.shtml
The Jewish Occupation Of Germany. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/The-Jewish-Occupation-Of-Germany.shtml
In all the circumstances, snide references by various commentators to “Nazis” being integral to humanity’s problems and involved in the creation of the New World Order are typical Judaic propaganda and misinformation designed to conceal the fact that any NWO machinations emanating from Germany are in fact Judaic initiatives not perfidious German activities.
A Jew first coined the term racism. See: “Racist” – A Word Invented by USSR’s Leon Trotsky – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Racist—A-Word-Invented-by-USSR-s-Leon-Trotsky.shtml
Since Jews are not a race it is not racist to demonstrate that Jews have destroyed nations and Empires since at least the expulsion of the Hylsos from Egypt and are still doing it, as exampled by Ukraine today. For instance Victoria Nuland is a Jew. Similarly, it cannot be racist to point out that Jews covertly control the US, UK, EU, Canadian, Australian and many other governments nor that such feats are achieved by a mere 5.5 million Jews in the US, 250,00 Jews in the UK and so on. Facts are facts. DITTO re the HoloHoax.
Blessings,
Ron
@WizOz:the Jews marry only between themselves
That is a myth. For example in the USA the rate of inter-marriage is in the 70% range which, by the way, horrifies the rabbis. This has never been so, by the way, except during the 17th-19th centuries Ashkenazim communities who lived in self-imposed isolation in ghettos and shtetls. Even biological research now has shown that this notion of a Jewish “race” is a myth. As Shlomo Sands has shown it, Jews were very much proselytizing and they incorporated a huge amount of non-Jews ranging from the Yemeni Blacks, to the Khazars, to Slavs, Arabs, Berbers, Anglos, Germans, etc.
Kind regards,
The Saker
@Mindfriedo:When you talk about the Russian soul is that not a type of tribalism?
It can. Depends who speaks. Tribalism, nationalism, racism exist in all communities. What makes the Jewish one unique is that a Jew from Los Angeles, one from Iraq and one from Argentina all believe that they come from a single race and that they have a God given right to the Holy Land whereas the local population does not. Also, these three Jews also believe that they need to protect each other against the Gentiles surrounding them who – if given the chance – are about to pounce on them and attempt to exterminate them. Finally, they sincerely believe that their life and blood is far more precious than the one of the people in the midst of which they live. Now THAT is unique :-)
Cheers,
The Saker
G’day Saker Part IV
Any suggestion that Jews, as a collective (including a great majority thereof) have not and do not contribute to the Judaic conspiracy to conquer humanity and genocide Palestinians et al, needs to explain how half the Judaics in the world ie some 6.5 million Jews in Israel are not a problem for Palestinians, Muslims generally and Christians living in and around Palestine. Similarly, to argue that most Jews are not a problem one must explain how 5.5 million Judaics in the US effectively control that nation and its banking and corporate industry, and its media, academia, military, and overall culture.
A further problem is the need to demonstrate that most Jews are not involved with Judaic propaganda and Mossad activities etc globally. Obviously huge numbers of Jews are hasbara and large numbers are also sayanim. Surely it is not suggested that those activities do not compromise the alleged innocence of Jews involved in them? See eg: Mossad’s One Million Helpers World-Wide. – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Mossad-s-One-Million-Helpers-World-Wide.shtml And: Israel: Agents, Assets and Sayanim. See: http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Israel-Agents-Assets-and-Sayanim.shtml And: Jonathon Blakeley: A guide to Hasbara trolls – http://abundanthope.net/pages/Ron_71/Jonathon-Blakeley-A-guide-to-Hasbara-trolls.shtml
Saker, in my view hasbara and sayanim are not part of the 99% of Jews allegedly being ruled against their will by the so-called “1%”. DITTO re the hundreds of thousands of Israeli military that have been involved in ethnically cleansing Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians and stealing their land. DITTO also for the millions of Jews who have gone to Israel to occupy that stolen land and infrastructure. Those people constitute a majority of Judaics in our world. If ya do the crime ya gotta accept responsibility.
Some explanation of why Jews infest almost every country in the world with small Fifth Column communities when they have their blood soaked Palestinian homeland to go to would also be relevant if the argument is to be made that most Jews are just like everyone else. Also, if “anti-Semitism” is such a problem for Jews why don’t they just “go home”?
Logically, anyone who disagrees with the Talmudic ideology preached by secular or “religious” Judaic leaders should simply cease to profess Judaism. If they don’t they either want their cake and want to eat it too in true Judaic fashion OR they are insincere in their protestations which amounts to the same thing. One can cease being a Jew and join the rest of humanity simply by no longer accepting the “advantages” of saying one is a jew.
Saying that millions of Amerikkans and other goyim corruptly support the Judaics’ attempt to control and enslave humanity or just “go along to get along”, does not justify what the Jews have done and are doing to our world. Arguably Jews dominate our world politically, financially, militarily and in virtually every other way. Jews control of information and education, our history has been weaponized and used against us. The mass media and Hollywood, totally controlled by Jewish financial and political interests, have systematically engaged in psychological warfare against the non-Jewish world, and have created an artificial reality and entirely fabricated history we are expected to accept.
Given that Jews are not a race and in any event almost none of them are Semites, why is it anti-Semitic to say that Jews are not Semites and hence that any Jew who says they are is either a fool or a liar
Saker you say that the rest of Europe did not fight the Germans. Could it be that the rest of Europe didn’t see Germans during WWIi in the same light that you and the Jews do?
Blessings
Ron
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@Ron,
Would you be surprised that documents published by Yad Vashem contradict the “official” figure of 80,000 Jews killed by the Romanian Army at Odessa in 1941? These documents (the Matatias Carp archive) gives the number of… 8,000 as per January 1942!
Or that according to Yad Vashem: “In June 1941, in the weeks following the invasion of the USSR by Nazi Germany and the Romanian army (under the dictatorship of Ion Antonescu), the Romanian army, with the partial cooperation of Einsatzgruppe D and some of the local population, massacred 100,000-120,000 of the Jewish population of Bessarabia and North Bukovina (areas annexed by the USSR from Romania in June 1940). The slaughter was carried out on the orders of Marshal Ion Antonescu, the fascist dictator of Romania”, whereas according to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of July 8, 1941: “The majority of the 45,000 Jews of Czernowitz, capital of Bukovina, succeeded in leaving the city prior to its occupation by the Nazi army, it was reported here today. Most of them have been permitted by the Soviet authorities to evacuate into Soviet interior, especially into the Jewish collective farms of Southern Ukraine, the report stated. Prior to retreating from Czernowitz, the Soviet soldiers set the city afire”.
Read more: http://www.jta.org/1941/07/08/archive/thousands-of-bukovina-jews-evacuated-into-soviet-interior#ixzz31swnZBQg
That’s serious cognitive dissonance!
Salam Mindfriedo,
What makes the definition of a race? We are all children of Adam. Are we then one race.
Go down the pole, and then some of us are the children of X. Does all children of X, then become a race. Go down the pole further, then some of us are children of Y. Does all children of Y, then become a race. Therefore, Quran rejects racism and calls all humans sons, daughters of each other with varying tones. Quran calls us one community.
@Mindfriedo: “Jews being a race”
By definition of race, true, they are not a race. The Quran refers to them as a people, like children of Israel, or people of the book. Common in beliefs.
If you remember in the Quran, Abraham ask God, to give the future Prophets from only his progeny. God answers only from your good progeny.
Abraham had 2 sons. Ishmael and Isaac. In Bible, God send Ishmael in wilderness and promises 12 tribes which will prosper and Ismael will have wide Kingdom.
Also, through Isaac, God gives him a son called, Jacob. Jacob is later on named by God as Israel. Again, God gives 12 tribes to Israel (Jacob). So, when the Quran refers to Banu Israel, it refers to tribes (people) of Jacob.
Now, here is a funny thing happens. Out of the 12 tribes of Jacob, one is called, “Yehud (Judea)”. It is in the Bible that this tribe annihilate the 11 other tribes. During Moses’ time all the tribes existed, but it Moses who gives the order for war crimes.
The Jews and Christians forget the 12 tribes of Ishmael. On Abraham’s death bed, Ismael like Isaac is there too. So, when Moses is wondering for 40 years to find Palestine from Egypt, there is no mention of these 12 prospering tribes of Ishmael. Neither they seem to exist nor their Arabic language, which is highly developed by then.
In Quran God choose Abraham, not that he was better. Abraham fulfilled some commands and God gave him his wish, that from then on all Prophets will be from his good progeny.
Throughout the years, this remaining tribe Yehud, kept persecuting each other too.
@Mindfriedo: I’ve not heard or seen the Jewish religion being missionary. Their unfavorable view of Jesus(a.s) would benefit if they wanted to proselytize.
Remember, on Judgement Day, everyone will be called by their mother’s name, so there might not be any embarrassment.
Jews consider themselves as “Chosen Race”, therefore one only joins this race through mother and not from both parents. A father is Christian and mother is a Jew, the child is born Jew. Whereas, a father is a Jew and mother is a Muslim, the child will not be a Jew.
Any religion which comes after another religion is considered heretic. The Jews have the same view of Jesus as the Christian have the view regarding Mohammad.
As I have mentioned earlier, that in Jewish Scripture TaNaKh, no mention is made for a “Virgin” giving birth. When the Jews translated their Scripture TaNaKh for Christians as Old Testaments, they intentionally translated as “Virgin” to keep with Christians’ wishes.
The double whammy is that they not only consider, the pious Bibi Mariam (as) as “non-virgin”. Also, she conceived Jesus during mensuration, which is impossible.
Astaghfirullah (I seek forgiveness from Allah), Astaghfirullah, Astaghfirullah.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Hi, there is an important event that will take place during 24-25 May, Pope Francis visit to occupied Palestine, high in his agenda is the secret closed-door real estate negotiations with Israel, why closed? will we ever know what has been signed? He then meets Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of the world’s Orthodox Christians, it will be very interesting to see what statement the 2 come out with. I suspect the 3 Intifada will commence after his departure, something is going to happen. Jesuits have long history of anti Islam, anti Orthodox, and pro Zionist, may are converted Jews.
@saker
It’s very refreshing to read your rant. I’ve come to similar conclusions a while back and it is very painful not to be able to discuss this topic without falling into one unfortunate category or the other.
Keep up the good work!
Hi Saker, you could have saved yourself a lot of trouble by just stating:- No country, clan, club, company, or creed, has a copyright on cunts! And if you are finding the above too coarse, just substitute clowns for the offending word.
I am afraid that I am in total agreement with your comment.
Hi Everybody,
Saker has explained Talmud through Christianity, I will try to explain through Judaism. I might be wrong, but that is how I was explained.
Jews have three Scriptures:
1. Torah : Five chapters, which was given by Moses. There are Jews who just believe in Torah and they are mostly in Muslim countries.
2. TaNaKh (TNK):
T stands for Torah.
N stands for Naviim, meaning Prophets. In Islam no one can be prophesier beside God. In Islam Naviim (Ambiya in Arabic) is lower rank than Messengers, as Prophets spread the message by mouth only. Where as, the Messengers spread the message verbally and by written. In Islam there are about 140,000 Prophets and only maximum of 20 Messengers, some say 5 only. The singular is Navi (Nabi in Arabic).
K stands for Ketuvim (Ketub in Arabic), which is Books. The singular is Ketuv (Kitab in Arabic). As one can see the noun is made plural in Hebrew by adding “im” at the end of the noun. Where as in Arabic the plural is made in 20 different ways.
Thus, TaNaKh means “Torah, Prophets and Books”. The Christians call this Jewish Scripture as Old Testament, which the Jews despise.
The Christians’ Old Testament (OT) contains, 66 Books (Protestant), 70 Books (Orthodox) and 73 Books (Catholic.
3. Talmud: According to TaNaKh Moses visited God for 40 days and nights. Moses was not just given the Commandments on a Tablet, which he broke and later was given another Tablet. By the way, the two Tablets don’t match.
He was orally briefed by God from there on until the end of the World. Moses, briefed each tribe’s Rabbi with this information, to be passed down the line until the end of the World. The 12 Rabbis of the 12 Tribe are supposed to write around the TaNaKh what is to be during their life time, the rest is passed down orally to the next Rabbi in line. This is called, Talmud. One can see the Talmud getting bigger and bigger as the times go and now it is voluminous.
However, on Moses instructions the tribe of Judea annihilated the other 11 tribes. So, everything was inhered by the tribe of Judea. Thus, all the 12 Rabbis upkeep of the 12 Talmuds belong to the same tribe of Judea. 12 Rabbis of Judea, 12 Talmuds.
I might be wrong, but stand to be corrected.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
“@Auslander: great video. I loved it! Could have watched it for another few hours. You are correct: there are at leas two correctors, one seems to have some kind of night vision, plus they are in radio contact with their command. Their mood was obviously excellent and they were having a great time laughing at the incompetent and confused reaction of the National Guard (i.e. death squads) to an attack they clearly did not expect.”
Glad you enjoyed the vid, Saker. I, too, have watched it several times as has my wife. Bless her little heart, she picked up on one detail that my aged eyes and ears missed the first go ’round. Being a long service senior NCO, pensioner now, I’ve got a not too bad eye for that sort of thing, but in this case a pair of younger ears caught that little detail.
While the lads were quite casual during the shoot, they never lost focus for an instant. Range I figure was 1000 to 1200 m. Obviously right sector had not the slightest idea where the origin of the incoming was. Night vision I don’t know, the weather up there that particular evening was quite clear although it’s hard to tell from the poor quality vid. Problem with most night vision is it can be seen at times. I of course won’t say how, no sense in giving the enemy any ideas, but reality is you can, indeed, see the devices in use.
Reality of that shoot for the bad guys was about all they could do was promulgate some intense whining and complaining, to wit “I want my Mommy and I want her now!” sort of thing. However, I found it a tad difficult to find sympathy for them, having watched right sector from 30 November to today. Poor to fair street fighters, not much else. As you should know, the ‘national guard’ is almost totally right sector. Their loses have been heavy of late, far more than either Kiev or they are willing to admit. Rule of thumb is black uniform or mismatched uniforms in a unit are a trademark of right sector. Another indicator is they prefer surplus Bundeswehr Flektarn. The Russian copy of flektarn, no longer issued or used, is visibly different. Another indicator of Bundeswehr flektarn is above the left upper blouse pocket is a green velcro strip. Russian flektarn did not have that. Green velcro = right sector, always, regardless of what the wearer says.
Keep up the good fight, Saker! You are very much appreciated.
Kindest regards
Auslander, aka Sevoblast
Of course, each Talmud differs from the another one. Who will remember orally, from the days of Moses until the end of the World.
These are almost cooked books by 12 groups.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Thanks for the links, Saker. There’s a bit of reading there I see! All good. Off to bed now but will be back with any questions I might have tomorrow. Thanks again
Auslander,
Do you think maybe Kiev is trying to kill two birds with one stone by getting Pravy Sektor out of Kiev and using them as cannon fodder? It’s the mercenaries who really worry me: just like the street thugs, they don’t care who they fire on, but they do know their stuff.
“VINEYARDSAKER: Judaism proper is the faith of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, the religion of the Old Testament”
With respect, I think you may possibly be a little off track on this one. Sources I have read suggest that it is a popular and vigorously defended hoax that the Jews of today are the physical descendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Assuming that these sources are correct, modern Jews are, in fact, primarily descended from Esau, son of Isaac, brother of Jacob. The Edomites were the descendants of Esau. Esau was the first born of Isaac, and thus was heir to the birthright derived from the direct racial lineage of Noah to Abraham.
Esau took his wives from among the Canaanites: Judith, a Hittite; Adah (called Basemath), a Hittite; Oholibamah, a Hivite. He also married Mahalath (also called Basemath), an Ishmaelite (Arab).
Today, the physiognomy of the Canaanites would be considered “Semitic” or “Jewish.”
So based on this thesis, the descendents of Esau (and not Jacob) are primarily the modern day Jews of today, while decedents of Jacob are the Israelites the Bible speaks of and not those who refer to themselves as “Israelites” in modern times.
Cheers
I agree with what you said in your rant. Just keep up the good work. :)
@Old Ez and I suppose Saker (if this hasn’t already been answered)
From my Ukrainian (rusty as it is) bete (sorry, don’t want take time to get my keyboard to provide Cyrillic character set) means to beat, to flog, to thrash. Бий (thank you copy and paste) means beat.
Just double checked with my old Ukrainian/English dictionary for confirmation
Ron Chapman,
The Constitution of the United States of America enshrined into law the ability to use and abuse human beings at whim. How many Americans absolutely believe certain groups of people are inferior, or that we’re exceptional? We’re force-fed all that stuff too and it’s wrong, whoever does it. Jews are unique only because their paranoia and knee-jerk loyalties to their own make them a Fifth Column and yes, we really need to figure out how to deal with that, but we, collectively and individually, do the same damned thing, just maybe not quite as successfully, though the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has certainly had an outsized influence on the lives of non-Catholics everywhere here. I’m not apologising for this Fifth Column by any means; I want to see it stopped, but stopped in a way that doesn’t descend into the same hate-filled, exclusionary rhetoric, ideology or methods. Meanwhile, yes, WWII, the Holocaust et. al. are a minefield absolutely in need of meticulous and unbiased excavation by parties only interested in uncovering the truth, wherever it lies. But that can’t begin to happen until all the fighting stops — i.e., probably not during the lifetime of anyone reading this blog because we’re all still letting ourselves be divided and conquered over that, too, and playing right into the hands of our (Jewish and Christian) oligarchical overlords.
@ Everybody,
Why certain Jews only believe in Torah and not in complete TaNaKh? And, why most of them reside in Middle East?
According to Quran:
Moses was given Torah
David was given Psalms
Jesus was given Evangel
But Muslims believe all these three books are corrupt by now. My apologies, if I hurt someone feelings, but this is The Islamic Belief.
Those Jews who only believe in TaNaKh are mostly the remnants of the other 11 tribes. They don’t believe in Naviim and Ketuvim.
They believe that both Naviim and Ketuvim, show all the Prophets in a very bad light thus showing Humanity in a very bad light too. To Muslims, Humans are the best of the Creation. And to Shia, Prophets do not sin.
Also, they believe that in both Naviim and Ketuvim, God is also shown in a very bad light too. Where in the story of Lot, God doesn’t punish the whole town, until everyone in the town is corrupt.
Now let us look at the story of Prophet David (as). Jews believe in 613 commandments, but these are subsets of the Major Commandments. We see David breaks Four Major Commandments against the Jews.
1. “Though shalt not covet”. David covets the neighbor’s wife.
2. “Thou shalt not commit adultery”. David commits adultery with the neighbor’s wife.
3. “Thou shalt not kill”. David conspire to kill his neighbor for his wife.
4. “Thou shalt not steal”. David then steals Bathsheba the neighbor’s wife.
What God does. He kills the child conceived during adultery. God then kills 70,000 Jews and feels remorseful. Later on God, blesses David and Bathsheba and gives them the glad tidings of a son named, Solomon.
What does Jacob (Israel) the father of 12 tribes does. He steals his brother’s birth right, thus cheating his father Isaac and God.
My God, what kind of stories are these. What will be the mental ideology of the people believing in these stories.
Enough said,
Mohamed.
Most assuredly, there is only One Church.
And a lot of true orthodox churches…..
Laboriously emerging from the terrifying wonder to know that I’m not a true Orthodox, according to a true Orthodox, I would humbly ask to know exactly what would be the ACTUAL teachings from the Moscow Patriarchate which would make the novel Saints Maximos to run away from it.
The errors of Patriarch Sergius?
Therefore, the many heretic Patriarchs who’ve been seated on the Constantinople’s throne have permanently disqualified it as a true Orthodox one from then on, isn’it?
Today the Phanariots still are a disgrace for the Faith, after a century of being the worst enemies of the Orthodox OEcumene, and yet Mount Athos has still to tore their cassocks and declare them as true Orthodox . They dissent, disobey, but do not leave.
May I guess that it’s because leaving would mean a very precise thing? Schism!
But surely true Orthodox know better than the wardens of the Garden of the Virgin.
However, they should at least explain how they have broken their communion with the Moscow Patriarchate if the Parishes where they commune are ALL in communion with the Moscow Patriarchate.
True Orthodox resemble very much to those who filter out the gnat and swallow the camel.
The Lord did teach extensively about them.
Men fall, men do mistakes.
To be sure, even Saints do mistakes (ask Blessed Augustine).
The Church do not!
Have mercy, brother, because without mercy you have no love, and without love you are just sounding brass.
Have mercy on you, above all, because the fate of every “true Orthodox church” is to die out.
Dear Sir,
I have come to be acquainted with your analysis in Asia Times, which led me to read your own blog almost daily.
I try to corroborate your views with other sources on the same issue.
You mentioned, in writing about Jews, today, May 16, that you have read so many books with regard to the subject in both English and Russian.
I wonder if you kindly tell me what you think of Douglas Reed book, “The controversy of Zion”
My name is Yarik Wagdy, and I live in Calgary – Canada.
Kind regards
Y. Wagdy.
E-mail: ywagdy@hotmail.com
@Mohammad
Jews have three Scriptures:…
Salam
very informative, thank you
mindfriedo
Saker
I have not read through the comments, so I don’t know if anybody pointed this out yet.
From reading the transcript of the Oleg Noginskii-Ian Epstein phone conversation, it appears that Tsarev recorded his conversation with Kolomoisky, since they (ON-IE) discussed whether Tsarev would make that conversation public and the possible backlash it could have on the Jewish community.
Back during the orange coup I remember reading an article in one of the western Jewish publications (for Jews) about the views of Ukrainian Jews on who to support. They were mostly backing Yanko, instead of Yushi, even then, due to the latter’s embracing the bandera types in the west. So I find it no surprise the Ukrainian Jewish community would be disgusted with the actions of Kolomoisky bankrolling and helping to organise bandera nazis now.
As I have mentioned earlier, that in Jewish Scripture TaNaKh, no mention is made for a “Virgin” giving birth. When the Jews translated their Scripture TaNaKh for Christians as Old Testaments, they intentionally translated as “Virgin” to keep with Christians’ wishes.
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Yeah, sure! They have a very long tradition “to keep with Christians’ wishes”.
In the “Septuagint”, the ONLY Jewish Scriptures around when the Lord walked in this world, the Virgin was (and is).
When they had to rewrite them, after the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus, the Virgin (and every other reference about Christ) was not (and is not) anymore, “to keep with their father’s (John 8, 44) wishes”.
Of course, Roman Catholic and Protestants prefer this brand, new, kosher, text.
It was already pointed out the futility of explaining Christianity through Muslim teachings.
@ Maedhros,
Islam and Muslims believe in Virgin Mary (as). Please read carefully the below verses from the Holy Quran. Chapter 3 of the Holy Quran is called, Family of Imran, this is the Family of Virgin Mary (as):
003.033 Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of ‘Imran above all people,-
003.034 Offspring, one of the other: And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.
003.035 Behold! a woman of ‘Imran said: “O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: So accept this of me: For Thou hearest and knowest all things.”
003.036 When she was delivered, she said: “O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!”- and Allah knew best what she brought forth- “And no wise is the male Like the female. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected.”
003.037 Right graciously did her Lord accept her: He made her grow in purity and beauty: To the care of Zakariya was she assigned. Every time that he entered (Her) chamber to see her, He found her supplied with sustenance. He said: “O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?” She said: “From Allah: for Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure.”
003.038 There did Zakariya pray to his Lord, saying: “O my Lord! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer!
003.039 While he was standing in prayer in the chamber, the angels called unto him: “Allah doth give thee glad tidings of Yahya (John the Baptist), witnessing the truth of a Word from Allah, and (be besides) noble, chaste, and a prophet,- of the (goodly) company of the righteous.”
003.040 He said: “O my Lord! How shall I have son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?” “Thus,” was the answer, “Doth Allah accomplish what He willeth.”
003.041 He said: “O my Lord! Give me a Sign!” “Thy Sign,” was the answer, “Shall be that thou shalt speak to no man for three days but with signals. Then celebrate the praises of thy Lord again and again, and glorify Him in the evening and in the morning.”
003.042 Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all worlds.
003.043 “O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down.”
003.044 This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
003.045 Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
003.046 “He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
003.047 She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is!
003.048 “And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
Al-Qur’an, 003.033-048 (Aal-E-Imran [The Family of Imran])
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@However, on Moses instructions the tribe of Judea annihilated the other 11 tribes…
I might be wrong, but stand to be corrected.
My friend Mohamed,
Where did you take that from? From the Kh we know that the Assyrians deported 10 (ten) of the twelve tribes of Israel, leaving behind the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, who were latter deported to Babylon and where from returned at the time of King Cyrus to Judaea.
And talking about the Virgin Mary and the family of Imran, would you care to explain why several Suras the Qur’an confuse Mary the mother of Jesus [Miriam in Hebrew] with Miriam the sister of Aaron and Moses, and daughter of Amram which is about 1400 years off?
Not to talk about the major contradiction of the Quran. Muslims believe that Jesus, according to the Quran is a wonderful, humble, generous messenger of God who came down and revealed God’s words to his people, the people of Israel. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is God, nor they believe that God ever chose to come down to earth in a form of a man to die for our sins to purify us and forgive us. Now, according to the Quran, the Quran was revealed by the Archangel Gabriel to Muhammad.
But from the Gospel we know that the Archangel Gabriel told Mary:
“And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David. And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God”.
Is the same Archangel who spoke to Mary and to Muhammad?
Hello Saker,
You said: “I find Israel an abomination whose very existence is a disgrace for all of mankind.” and (paraphrasing), ‘most nations are an invention’.
I am curious why you’d say that Israel is an abomination. I see it as a state for the nation of Israel. I don’t think it’s questionable that there is a nation of Israel, at least no more questionable than the existence of the Italian nation, or German nation, or others. There is a common language, and at least somewhat common history and culture.
I am not saying that everything that the state of Israel is doing is right. But I don’t question their right to exist as a state in their historical homeland. The nice thing about nation-states is that the people get to decide how they are going to organize their affairs. I don’t believe in one-size-fits-all when it comes to societies and cultures.
To put it differently: if there were no state of Israel, all the Jews would have to live in diaspora. As a thought experiment, please pick between the following two extremes: a) all the world’s Jews live in Israel; b) all the world’s Jews live in diaspora. Which one would you rather pick? Option a) demands that there is a state for Jewish people, i.e. the state of Israel.
Saker,
Thanks for your thoughtful rant and thanks for the folks here that took the time for insightful comments, there’s much to digest and process.
Much ancient history and some very recent; for me the early morning ‘insanity check’ is: how does 9/11 fit into current perceptions of the political process?
Regards,
T1
Saker, thanks again for digging out the refs for me. From the first link you gave (Will the Heterodox Be Saved?) comes this-
“They have been born and raised and are living according to the creed which they have inherited, just as do the majority of you who are Orthodox; in their lives there has not been a moment of personal and conscious renunciation of Orthodoxy. The Lord, “Who will have all men to be saved” (I Tim. 2:4) and “Who enlightens every man born into the world” (Jn. 1.43), undoubtedly is leading them also towards salvation In His own way.”
For readers, “they” in the quote refers to to the Heterodox – the Christians that don’t belong to the Orthodox Church.
So it would seem that the Orthodox Church follows, or at least does not contradict, the teaching of St Paul in Romans 2. In other words, the Orthodox Church does not claim to have the exclusive route to Salvation.
Another point I have noticed so far is a tendency to rely on statements that confuse the use of ‘Orthodoxy’ with ‘ecclesia’. Substituting ‘Church’ for ‘church’ is another and thereby inserting the Orthodox Church into New Testament scriptures which were written centuries before Orthodox Church came into being as an institution.
I have more to read from your refs yet and will endeavour to email you later.
Thanks and best wishes.