American troops have left their military bases in Syria in the district near Dadat town and Um Mial locality and headed for Iraq. Syrian government forces have entered the districts abandoned by the US, and the contact line between the Syrian and Turkish armies is now controlled by the Russian military police. This fact is especially annoying for the American press. The New York Times and the Washington Post have published practically at the same time articles about Trump having just gifted American bases to Russians, de facto making Russia the only significant international mediator in the region.
me like!
Yep, and it’s all thanks to The Donald. Pretty ironic if you ask me. Although Trump didn’t do it out of the goodness of his heart (he did it to boost his re-election chances in 2020, and to keep US soldiers out of harms way), it has had the unintended benefit of vastly improving Syria’s territorial integrity.
With the Yankees out of Northern Syria, the Kurds will re-unify with the Syrian state, and the dream of Rojava will come to an end, never to be resurrected. This is a win for everyone in the region except the YPG, Israel, and their collective Neocon Zionist masters, who are almost certainly all reeling in fright and horror at this very moment at Trump’s decision.
Now it just remains to be seen if the US actually completely withdraws from Northern Syria or not. If the government gets their oil and water assets back, it’s over. The war will finally be over. If US Troops try to hang onto the oil fields, we might have a problem. Still – even if they try to stay in certain areas – the Syrian Army has now completely recovered its border areas with Turkey including Manbij, Kobani, Qamishli, and the city of Raqqa, once the ISIS capitol in Syria. These are nevertheless major victories for the good people of Syria. None of that territory will ever be back under American occupation.
Hopefully, the US will withdraw completely from Northern Syria and there will be no games. The SAA needs to get those oil wells ASAP.
If the US does withdraw completely from North Syria, all that will remain under US occupation will be the Al-Tanf border crossing. But there’s no point in them keeping that either without the North because now they can just all go around it.
Today is a good day for the Syrian people, no matter what may happen next.
It is just a ploy to resurrect Daash, so I’d keep the, non-alcoholic, champagne on ice for the time being. Evil NEVER rests, and ‘peace’ will only come to the region when the Real Axis of Evil, Israel, Sordid Barbaria and the USA are comprehensively defeated. It would be vastly preferable if that could happen, somehow, peacefully, but these creatures know only death, destruction and aggression.
I dont agree that Trump wanted the US to stay in there….he very much voiced his own opinions before his elections and was very much in favour of peaceful solutions everywhere – and three weeks into his presidency, after he met with the CIA, he became their Stepford-husband. The Deep State is the malevolent bit…not Trump…That was obvious then. Trump is a rough diamond for sure but i do not think he is a psychopath. It is not so much a defeat for the US…more a defeat for the Deep State and its Zionist allies….
The situation was brought on by the Kurds themselves…through their bad leadership which was blind to geopolitical realities. They should from the start have worked with the Russians…but Kurds are a strange crowd…look at how the Iraqi Kurds stabbed the Iraqi government in the back and traded their oil for funds from NATO…NATO ships were waiting at the end of the Truck pipeline…not so long ago…
Erdogan is also a Weather-Vane but the Russians have given him some new thinking to do…I do not worry about Turkish intent in Syria… they certainly, if they could, would want to grab Afrin for themselves…it has always been a deep-seated wish…but realpolitik imposed by the Russians will neutralise this….
Im totally chuffed that Kadyrovs guys are in there as military police…Chechens are tough and honourable… Putin did well to take on Kadyrovs offer. .
Do you think it is over even if Syria regains control of all of its territory? They will be facing death by a thousand cuts. When the war is over the syrians will be facing decades of manufactured unrest, terrorism, bombings and sanction for decades to come, not to mention coups and elections. How foolish to think, that it is all over!
of course all, in a overviewed way, ALL w i l l be over!!
This must be seen thru time perspective, my dear.
In 15 years no military or soft power threatens from the warshig
ton ex empire will be CREDIBLE to 54 african nations, 30 latin american ones and a bunch of other asian ones!
The city shining on the hill will be Beijing and China, with fair flashing lights from Delhi and moscow.
China is a success and by that time will be a glowing, obfuscating success! by any angle you look at.
So any color revs, any NGO s moves or second rate propaganda will prevail any longer. Because of two reasons: shadow and darkness automatically disappear by the mere projection of light. And second, the ultimate reason for hegemony is SHEAR force – and exceptionalists military power will be a fading flying cloud.
Yet again, for the 4853rd time or so, this shows what the role of the Western stenographers is. Mouthpieces for the Anglo Zionist Empire. With zero integrity or morals.
Just yesterday, one Australian presstitute, Adam Harvey of ABC reported that “since 2014, the Kurds had fought alongside the USA in defeating Islamic State in Syria”. With no mention of who had funded, armed, and supported ISIS or any of the other Jihadists in Syria. And no mention of anyone else who had fought against ISIS.
A couple days ago on ABC, they even had sympathetic reports on Australian relatives of ISIS fighters trapped in one of the refugee camps pleading for help to save them from ‘the regimes brutal army’.
For years, the most outrageous lies and distortions and censorship to promote the destruction of Syria, to promote regime change, to promote the objectives of the Anglo Zionist Empire. Filth. I hope what is now happening is another nail in the coffin for those who have supported such evil.
Yeah? So what’s not to like about that??
“Syrian government forces have entered the districts abandoned by the US, and the contact line between the Syrian and Turkish armies is now controlled by the Russian military police.”
This shows how well coordinated the actions by these parties are with each other. This is a well planned campaign.
The US House disapproves of Trump!
“Washington (CNN)Congressional Democratic leaders offered a remarkable readout of a meeting with President Donald Trump on Wednesday, saying that the President called House Speaker Nancy Pelosi a “third-rate politician” in what they described as a “meltdown.”
“He was insulting, particularly to the speaker. She kept her cool completely, but he called her a third-rate politician,” Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer told reporters, describing the interaction. “This was not a dialogue, it was sort of a diatribe. A nasty diatribe, not focused on the facts.”
Pelosi added, “What we witnessed on the part of the President was a meltdown, sad to say.”
The Democratic leaders were at the White House for a meeting on Syria, which came shortly after the House overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan vote on a resolution opposing the Trump administration’s troop withdrawal.”
—CNN
Katherine
Ok, that is one perspective on that event. Remember, there are 3 versions of any event involving two parties.
Yours,
Mine
The truth
It’s not unlikely that there are many scenes like the one below now occurring in Washington DC, the Pentagon, and CIA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyNocJFUloA
Let the tie chewing commence!!!
This is great Russian diplomatic victorz.
This is a deal between Russia and Turkey with the help of Iran and with the tacit consent of the Americans.
The Russians used the Turks as a means of neutralizing Kurdish separatism. ATrum realized that the US had to change policy, but it had major problems in America itself.
But war is not over yet.
Indeed, a sensational performance by Team Putin. History making. Masters at work.
Outlook:
– the Syrian Kurds will get a good deal due to upcoming constitutional reforms
– Eventually,Turkey will have to pull back its forces
– Oil back in Syria’s hands
– Iraq strengthened
– Iran strengthened
– the whole ME strengthened
– The House of Saud has to rethink its priorities
– Israel has to rethink … everything ! big way !
US Army Embarks on 16-Year Modernization Program to Match ‘Pacing Threat’ Russia, China
https://sputniknews.com/us/201910171077067349-us-army-embarks-on-16-year-modernization-program-to-match-pacing-threat-russia-china/
“The Army’s latest modernization strategy report revealed they will prioritize countering military developments in China and Russia, the US’ “pacing threat,” as the branch begins a four-stage plan to become a multi-domain force by 2035.”
That’s impressive. In 16 years the u.s. army plans to catch up to where Russia is today. ;-D
But can they do it, given all the incompetence, corruption, cost overruns anddelays caused by poor design and workmanship?
Diversity is their strength!
Bhadrakumar puts it rather eell in this commentary:
It’s Curtains for US in Syria: Russia, Iran Owe Big Thanks to Erdogan
https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/10/its-curtains-for-us-in-syria-russia-iran-owe-big-thanks-to-erdogan/
“Clearly, the Turkish incursion and impending offensive against Kurds has made continued American military presence in northern Syria untenable and Russia has leveraged the situation to bring about the agreement between Kurds and Damascus.
Having succeeded in this endeavour, Russians have taken Turks into confidence. Unsurprisingly, President Recep Erdogan is nonchalant about the agreement between the Kurds and Damascus and has shrugged off the Syrian troop movements close to Turkey’s borders. He evasively referred to Vladimir Putin’s assurances.
In the final analysis, the Americans are paying a heavy price for being clever by half — stringing Turkey along in the recent years while methodically consolidating the ground for the creation of an autonomous Kurdistan on its borders, apart from arming and training the Kurdish militia to shape up as a regular army.
Erdogan gave a long rope to the Americans to hang themselves, literally. When he struck, the contradictions in the US policy got exposed overnight — the game plan to balkanise Syria and overthrow Assad; the Faustian deal with a terrorist group that has been bleeding a NATO ally; and the geopolitical agenda to sever Iran’s axis with Syria and the Levant.
Suffice to say, with the eviction of the US forces from northern Syria, the Turks have achieved something that Russia and Iran (and Damascus) all along wished for but couldn’t attain. From this point onward, Russia and Iran will prevail upon Ankara to reconcile with Damascus.
The US has belatedly understood that Turkey has summarily terminated its 8-year old intervention in Syria to overthrow the Assad regime. The vitriolic reaction by Trump and US defence Secretary Mark Esper (here https://www.rt.com/news/470928-trump-turkey-sanctions-tarriffs/ and here https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/1988372/statement-by-secretary-of-defense-dr-mark-t-esper-regarding-turkey-syria-border/ ) is self-evident.”
“Tail between Legs”.
Please to note that Putin studiously avoids the above triumphalist tone, one which stirs up bad feelings. Pres.Putin and Dr.Assad are reconcilers, builders and healers. With their victory over the forces of greed, hatred and destruction the world begins to recover from sixty-years of global Anglo Zio Capitalist sickness.
Indeed, for once the USAF does the right thing here come people with schadenfreude..
I find this withdrawal one of the greatest things the USAF has done in the last 70 years, if not the only one.
Withdraw when you have failed is the right thing to do, and when done in time to avoid unjustified casualties for all the parts implied, makes an army great, instead of dishonorable.
Even though 8 years too late, mending an error is always a good thing to do.
Nick, this shows his class doesn’t it? There is nothing like humble behavior (at least in public), it keeps the bridges intact.
I have only one word for this – my word is delicious!
We’ve been walking with Syria and Russia step by step – village by village – attack by counter-attack – missiles in from the US and France and Britain – house by house and street by street fighting against terrorists and those that wanted to destroy Syria, the cleanup after a city was captured for Syria, the demining, the bringing together of the population, the emergency food and water Don’t know about the rest of you, but I was there in heart and mind! We rejoiced with the victories and we cried with the defeats. If we could, we would have carried them along for the next step. Now, we see the end of a long time of the great work of the Syrians and all that supported them, and ourselves as well.
It is a delicious moment and I don’t care if it is considered not humble enough :-) Rejoicing is valid.
It is also a very dangerous moment. This is the time that if the Israeli’s get a bug up somewhere, and start shooting now, I don’t want to imagine the consequences. If the 2 war parties in the US manage to overturn Trump’s withdrawal, it would be exceedingly a bad thing.
Is this the US “Suez Moment”?
Brilliant analogy, that! In 1956, Britain was in terminal decline. 6 years of a ruinous conflict (1939-1945) had bankrupted the empire, yet the Brits overstretched themselves in a bid to retain control of the Suez canal. They never recovered after that debacle.
The US has bled its treasury in Afghanistan for 18 years, in Iraq for 15 years, not to mention the ever ballooning debt… The endgame was to subjugate Iran, then Russia. We’re now witnessing the deserved consequences of Imperial Overstretch.
Could be the Saigon Embassy moment.
”These constant fake-outs on a Syrian withdrawal are meant only for the general public as a way of pacifying concerns, and it seems to be working. To this day many people still believe that Trump had pulled US troops out of Syria (or is withdrawing them right now) and Putin pulled Russian troops out after “defeating ISIS”. None of this ever happened. If you tell a big lie enough times the uneducated masses will start to adopt it as the truth.
I’m seeing the Trump cult making some outlandish arguments (as they always do) to rationalize the president’s bizarre and abrupt policy actions. The first argument claims that “it’s about time” that a president “stood against the deep state” and ended US involvement in Syria, and we should let Turkey and the Kurds sort out their own mess. I would repeat the fact that Trump is not leaving Syria or any other nation in the Middle East with a US military presence. He is only pulling troops back and leaving the door open to Turkish attack.
I would also point out once again that it is not “their mess”, it is a mess created by western governments including the US. The Kurds lost tens of thousands of fighters battling ISIS, and the Turkish incursion into Syria seems to be taking advantage of their weakened defenses. This is a situation the US created. The Turkish invasion is a DIRECT result of the destabilization of Syria, and Trump’s pullback from the northern border was the icing on the cake. It acted as a form of permission by the US that Turkey could now do whatever they wanted (for a time).
Trump’s claim that the Kurds were “not really our allies” as they “did not help us during WWII”, and that they were only defending their homes rather than supporting our efforts against ISIS shows an insane (but calculated) disinformation campaign designed to make conservatives look monstrous and untrustworthy. If Trump was really against the “deep state” he would not try to tarnish the image of our only legitimate allies in the region.
If you’re not buying the mainstream narrative, you might be wondering why Donald Trump would suddenly abandon the Syrian border allowing Turkey to invade? You also might be wondering why he would then immediately threaten to “crush” Turkey with economic sanctions and place “thousands of US troops” on the ground if his goal was to end US involvement in Syria? The answer is in the macro-picture. That is to say, we have to ask the most important of all questions – Who benefits?
As I’ve mentioned in previous articles, geopolitical events are being exploited by the globalist establishment as distraction and cover for their controlled demolition of the economy. They need scapegoats for the implosion of the Everything Bubble, an implosion they started in 2018 with liquidity tightening policies that has now accelerated into a full-blown financial crisis. The Turkish invasion of Syria may be the pinnacle distraction event.
With engineered chaos in Syria, Trump’s globalist handlers can achieve a historic level of chaos while avoiding direct culpability. What do we get when we combine all the elements listed above along with lies on both sides of the political paradigm? Well, we get a rationale for war. We also get yet another event which makes Trump look like a bumbling villain and conservatives look like fools or soulless robots.
By extension, any tensions with Turkey suggest the beginning of the end for NATO. As I predicted in January of 2019, it appears that Turkey, a key component of the western alliance, is about to exit. This furthers the globalist goal of the deterioration of the west; the decline of the old world order making way for their “new world order” in which Eastern powers will play a larger role in conjunction with certain European elements. This is a dynamic globalists like George Soros have publicly and proudly discussed in the past.
The Kurds may also be a direct target of the globalist agenda. In a declassified CIA document titled ‘The Kurdish Minority Problem’, the agency indicated that the establishment has seen the Kurds as an unknown factor (which they don’t like) that is fiercely independent (which they really don’t like) as far back as the 1940’s. The CIA suggests that the Kurds are an uncontrolled element that could make establishment goals in the region difficult to achieve.
In the 1970’s the US manipulated the Kurds into actions against Iraq, which was amassing forces against the Shah of Iran and threatening to invade Kurdish occupied lands. Once the Shah was removed from power by Iranian revolt, the US abandoned support for the Kurds. The Iraqi government used the opportunity to attempt genocide against them using chemical weapons sold to them by the US government. History does indeed seem to repeat.
I suggest that because the Kurds are a tribal force of millions that might oppose the globalist agenda in the Middle East, they may have been slated for erasure, and this latest event is merely one of a long series of events designed to kill off the Kurds. Or, at the very least, killing the Kurds is a bonus for the establishment.
Beyond the Kurdish issue, a renewed Syrian crisis and EU opposition to Erdogen could lead to another flood of Muslim migrants into Europe. The last time this happened it sent the EU into an economic and political tailspin. It also opens the door to more fear in Europe and provides extra cover for a financial crash there.
And, ultimately, the Turkish invasion provides a perfect excuse to draw a number of opposing camps into a single place in close proximity, The possibilities for the globalists are endless. The Kurds are turning to Assad for aid and protection from Turkey. Iran is a military ally of Assad. Russia is still heavily involved in the area, and so is the US and Israel. I think anyone with any intelligence can see where this is headed.
If the globalists are successful in turning Syria into the center of the world by encouraging a Turkish invasion with a US troop pull back from the border, they would be killing multiple birds with one stone.
They get a renewed rationale for wider US military involvement within the year. They get increased economic uncertainty as major powers fight over the dynamics of the region. They get a scapegoat for the crash of the Everything Bubble as the potential for wider economic or kinetic war rises. They get a scapegoat in Donald Trump and his conservative supporters, who will not only take the blame for the economic crisis, but also any tragedy that befalls the Kurds. And finally, they get a rationale for the end of NATO, which would be the next step in ending the old western world order.
This clears the path for the introduction of a fully global and completely centralized new world order; a world without economic or national borders in which the elites govern openly rather than from behind the curtain.
One “mistake” (or false flag) could ignite a conflagration between the nations involved. This is why the EU, the Russians, the Israelis and Trump all suddenly care so much about the Kurdish plight. They CREATED the Kurdish plight, and now they are going to use it to turn Syria into a massive powder keg. Syria is an artificially manufactured “linchpin”, as DARPA would call it. It is designed to provide catastrophe while maintaining plausible deniability for the establishment. Trump’s actions in Syria may seem random, but they make perfect sense when we understand that he is serving a greater agenda. The US “withdrawal” is not a withdrawal, it is a prelude to a bigger conflict which benefits the globalist cabal.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/syrian-debacle-actually-well-planned-chaos
Brandon Smith. Enough said. Scroll on.
One wonders if all this is due to success or failure of dealing with Bolton failures….or any subsequent success or failure of Espers……
To me it seems that this “withdrawal” of US troops is more some sort of a well planned situation and maybe a prelude for something more serious.
As long als Turkey is into NATO and as long as US troops are in Turkey, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and maybe Israel I don’t believe anything concerning US withdrawal.
US military stays usually – as in the past – far too long in a “theatre” created by USA (and some Western powers as “followers”). The US military complex as well as CIA and some other “factors” have much much more to say than President Trump will ever have. Point. That’s why he seems sometimes acting like a psychopath.
Trump, acting like a psycopath? He said all along, numerous times, that he wanted US troops out of Syria, “nothing but death and sand|” were his words. Hail Trump, like him or not, and that he actually has it happening now waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, orange man bad!
US Plot to Transfer Thousands of ISIS Terrorists from Syria to Iraq
https://www.globalresearch.ca/expert-reveals-us-plot-transfer-thousands-isis-terrorists-syria-iraq/5692297
“A senior Iraqi security expert disclosed that Washington is attempting to transfer 3,000 members of the ISIS terrorist group from Syria to Iraq. Hafez Al-Basharah told the Arabic-language al-Ma’aloumeh news website on Tuesday that the US which has created and supported the ISIS terrorists in the past few years is now plotting to create a safe area for them in Iraq. He added that Washington, which has chosen three areas in Iraq for the ISIS relocation, wants to transfer the militants first to the regions under Turkey’s military attacks in Syria and then to Iraq.
“The first region that the US intends to transfer the ISIS terrorists is an area between Albu Kamal in Syria and Qa’em in Iraq; the second region is Ein al-Assad base; and the third area is one of the US bases in the Iraqi Kurdistan region,” al-Basharah said.
The Arabic-language media outlets had reported in July that Washington planned to bring back a more dangerous version of the ISIS terrorist group to Iraq and Syria after its failure to achieve its mischievous goals in the region. The Arabic-language website of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted Hessam Sho’aib, a Syrian military expert on terrorist organizations, as saying that a recent report by the US-based Institute for Studies of War (ISW) on rebirth of the ISIS terrorists in Iraq and Syria exposes this reality that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has created the ISIS and is preparing the grounds for the return of the terrorist groups, especially the ISIS, to the region.”
It seems Turkey’s Syria incursion may have also disrupted these israeloamerican plans, and that this well organized campaign may have had that intention along with other goals that have been discussed here, such as removing the american/nato/israeli presence in NE Syria and bringing the kurds back into the Syrian state.
Who made the composition?
Who conducted it?
Which international players participated in playing it?
After listening to a very sober (yet optimistic, Alain!) analysis of the situation by Mr Hussein Askary……..of an Arab family with long and positive experience living among Kurdish people, I took his suggestion and played Mozart’s Rondo All Turca:
https://youtu.be/DmxmtKtPy1c
to savor the full irony of this moment and grand opportunity in history.
https://larouchepac.com/20191016/peace-breaks-out-syria-interview-hussein-askary
Within the video he plays another, about a minute long ………..from last year…with the Bridge Between Asia and Europe (at the Bosphorus, Istanbul) last year…..in the background in terms of the conscious intent, over decades…coming to fruition in these days.
“Geopolitics is for animals…not for humans.”
“US Withdraws From Syria With Tail Between Legs!” — very apt indeed. Way back in 1975, I vividly recall reading an article entitled “US Withdraws from Vietnam With Tail Between Legs”. Russia, China, Iran, do mankind a service by chopping off those american legs and tail. Pronto!
Your headline though is unnecessarily puerile, nor does it reflect the truth, which is that the withdrawal of troops was done with Trump being a part of the over all deal. Everybody wins, in this case. So using the expression ‘tail between their legs’ is not only tasteless, it presents a distortion of the truth. Dont let your schadenfreude get the better of you. That just cheapens the win. Instead let us just hope the deal holds, and that Trump doesnt get cold feet.