http://english.almanar.com.lb/31975
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The UN Security Council will hold an urgent meeting on Friday to hear details of a US-Russian deal on Syria as it weighs whether to endorse the agreement, diplomats said.
Council members will meet at 5:30 pm (2130 GMT) for the closed-door consultations called.
It would seem to me the best method would be to “massively bomb” the groups you know are Al Nursa. Of course the “moderate terrorists” are embedded with them. And when the US “whines”,tell them “now” is there one and only chance to save their “stooges”. If they separate within 48 hours,they live. If not the bombing will go on,and on,until “all” terrorists are destroyed.In that case Syria and Russia “win” either way.While Iran “should” do “anything and everything” to supply the Yemenis with support for their attacks in Saudi Arabia itself.If the Yemenis breakthrough deeply into Saudi Arabia the Saudis will have much more to worry about than supporting Jihadis in Syria.At that point,Assad can offer to “only” have negotiations with those groups that don’t have “foreign Jihadis” in them.Offer a deal to the “Syrian” opposition.And promise total destruction to “any” foreign Jihadi found in Syria after a certain time.Its time to play hardball in this war.And end this “seemingly endless charade” of useless “diplomacy”.
Maybe the secret part of the agreement would be rejected by Israel. I dont think that the leadership of the jewish state care for peace too much. After all, their whole existence is predicated on stealing from others.
I think the Saudis are not the only ones that are concerned with peace showing its ugly face in the middle east. As long as the west can keep its many enemies fighting each other while pretending to be the good guy… It is like the crusade all over again. So sad that we do not study history, this thing is getting old very fast.
I fully agree with UB 1. Unless one postulates that each time they eliminate the terrorists the empire will find new ones to replace them and like this it can go on and on.
The issue is a battle between utter falsehood ,and evil and those who stand at least for some truth.. All that talk with the evil side is futile and the bloodshed of innocents continues. One does not talk with Hitlers one blows them out of existence. failure to do so makes things worse and worse and ultimately tit leads to the big Armageddon.
RT tonight reporting free Syrian army ejecting USA commandoes as troops from their association…….will not tolerate the infidels any more….USA says this is not acceptable……despite spending billions to create?support “moderate opposition rebels”…meanwhile sky TV following USA strident line that Russia is now to be blamed for failure of humanitarian aid to get through to all Aleppo-though earlier reports have found so just an associate’s refusing this aid because they want to be difficult……maybe USA been all along been trying to set up the blame game against Russia to totally discredit them,up and coming UNSC expected to be very tough going especially as the chlorine gas by Assad is being pushed by UN despite inconsistencies……..??????
USA refusing to jointly setup information exchange because the has not ensured aid gets through…..Russia saying will release , must do so, the 5 documents because USA is reinterpreting documents just like they have done before , this time or again continuing to protect al-nusrah???????
….why am i sick of all this. How do diplomats keep on doing what ever it is they do. ‘Politicians’ we know about, there be fame and riches beyond compare, empires to make them immortal. For the others, offer them 16 vestal virgins or something….
Peter, with all respect, how many times do you need to shake hands with the devil, to find out that your hands are bloody & fishy smelling all over again? Yes, and in between there are innocent people dying again & non stop.
Somehow, I am running out of the lessons from Sun Tzu (regarding Russia’s diplomacy etc.).
Or, maybe, I have an incomplete version of it with the best pages stolen by Obomber, NSA etc…? ;)
Look, this conflict is lasting already since 5 years. Isn’t it enough time to get smart for the guys in Kremlin? And my prayers are with anyone, who is trying to limit/end/finish etc. any war & suffering of the people “on the ground”.
ps: VVP idolaters, pls. keep your breath. I am on your side till VVP will “do the right thing” (which, of course, we will see only from the distance of the time…. back with the Sunt Tzu point again, right…?)
The US Special Operation Forces are helping Turkish troops to allegedly fight Daesh terrorists in Syria, the Pentagon confirms.
The American troops had been deployed to Turkey at Ankara’s request to help its forces in and around the Syrian border, Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said in a statement on Friday.
The US forces are helping Turkish troops and so-called moderate Syrian opposition forces near the towns of Jarabulus and Ar Rai, Davis added.
Why another round of cease-fires when the Syrian Army is winning? There are no mutual interests between Washington and Moscow in Syria. This is about Russia giving Washington another chance to pull out it’s special forces, aids, and advisors out of target areas. The Russian’s simply don’t want to bomb Americans. And if something does go wrong, hey, we gave you warning after warning to leave the terror groups.
” ‘Christians and Americans have no place among us’ , one fighter shouts. ‘They want to wage war to occupy Syria’ “
Ooops, must be a Putin-bot doing Kremlin’s dirty work here, am I right? MSM about to switch their narratives PDQ about those ‘moderates’, that’s for sure. Also, it looks like a subtle, pretty amusing backhanded compliment to phrase it Christians and Americans. To me, the latter come across as Satanists, practicing limitless self-worship and hatred of others.
Only thing this ‘ceasefire’ will accomplish is to keep ringing that cash register to pushit over $5T.
Almost certainly they’ll get some quiet time to complete those 3 airfields going in in north Syria Kurdistan.
4 if u count Kobani twice, because it’s got a separate base for those separatiste malodorous Frenchie cochons .
A report by the Cost of War Projects has claimed that the US spent $4.79 trillion on wars in the Middle East and on the ‘War on Terror’ after the September 2001 terrorist attacks.
The report which is run by Brown University’s Watson Institute, counted the total budgetary cost of the wars America waged in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Syria as well as on counter-terrorism and includes future obligations to spend budgetary money through 2053, estimated future spending on veterans, interest already paid for money borrowed for the war effort and other commitments.
worst kept secret of all, article here wee hours 17th, but I saw post 12 hours ago by Canthama on Ziad’s site said huge convoys heading there Hama 16th.
this article is from his son, Leith.
HAMA, SYRIA (2:20 A.M.) – The situation in northern Hama is about to get interesting, as both the Syrian Armed Forces and the jihadist rebels have offensives planned in the coming days.
However, the jihadist rebels might not get the opportunity to continue their large-scale Hama offensive because the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) “Tiger Forces” have already mobilized and positioned themselves for their long-awaited counter-attack.
I apologize for being unable to view Southfront’s videos – I rely on comments for informational background and see two that reference the UN Security Council meeting. I saved this quote from RT’s description of Russia’s assessment of the ceasefire situation:
“Lavrov also stressed that ‘as result of Russia’s efforts, the issues of putting on track cooperation between the Syrian authorities and the United Nations in the area of broader humanitarian access are being solved, though not without difficulty.'”
One of the under-reported consequences of the attempted ceasefire might well be a swinging away of UN power plays from US domination to a more equitable and compassionate approach to Syria’s plight (and the plights of Yemen, Libya, etc.) and the eventual isolation of US and others’s dreams of glory. (Sorry about the misplaced apostrophe there.)
With respect to the latter, economics looms large. Russia and the sane world at large can afford to be patient and indeed they must. It is the only way. It is very sad that in the meantime, lives and property are wantonly destroyed as the US and its proxies desperately attempt to hang onto power.
“We agreed that the Al-Nusra Front and the likes of it would be separated from the so-called healthy opposition factions, and we would be shown where the latter are located. But what we see today is not separation of the healthy part of the opposition and the terrorists. We see terrorist forces trying to regroup.” Vladimir Putin told journalists on Saturday.”
“After five days of the ceasefire, it has to be noted that only the Russian and Syrian sides have been fully implementing their commitments. On its own initiative, Russia prolonged the cessation of hostilities for 48 hours, and yesterday it was extended for another 72 hours,” senior Russian General Staff official, Viktor Poznikhir, said at a briefing in Moscow.
But, according to Poznikhir, it is very different on the American side as “the US and the so-called moderate groups under their control didn’t fulfill a single commitment undertaken in the framework of the Geneva arrangements.”
Seriously though. Did anyone ever “really” think they would. And if they did think that,on what bases did they have for thinking that. Did the US maybe “this” time do a “pinky swear” or something.I’m constantly reminded here of the saying “fool me once,shame on you.Fool me twice (let alone a dozen times), shame on me”. I know a person that is a pathological liar. He just can’t tell the truth. No matter on what subject. Its a mental issue with him.Now after being “burned” a couple of times. I “never” believe anything he tells me. If he told me it was sunny outside I’d grab an umbrella before going out.The US promises to Russia are on that level. But at least I realized the problem with that person and stopped believing him. I wonder how to say to Russia in Russian, “if their lips are moving,they are lying”.
Just read following and the same thoughts came into my mind (like for a 1000th time already):
Putin said that despite the set-backs, Moscow is hopeful that this attempt at reconciliation in Syria would succeed.
“We are more positive than negative and expect that the promises, which the US administration made to us, would be delivered,” he said.
source: https://www.rt.com/news/359644-terrorists-regroup-syria-ceasefire/
Maybe this whole game starts to be too sophisticated for me…
“The General Command of the Syrian army has accused the US-led coalition of bombing the Syrian army’s positions in Deir ez-Zor, SANA news agency reported.
The Syrian military said that aircraft of the US-led coalition targeted Syrian government forces near Deir ez-Zor airport, state media reported. DETAILS TO FOLLOW”
It appears that israel’s pindo colony is doing what everybody expected the cowardly scum would do.
URGENT: Russia Says US ‘Responsible’ if Syria Truce Breaks Down
this ceasefire only good for 7 days, to Sep 19th, if it even means anything now at all.
likely all that positioning of troops & materiel buildup at/around Hama is timed to go ahead if/when hope of any real ceasefire is lost, or just after the 7 days times out.
The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that Syrian army positions were attacked by two F-16 fighter jets and two A-10 ground attack aircraft of the US-led coalition.
“Today at 17:00-17:50 Moscow time, international anti-Daesh coalition (two F-16 and two A10 jets) carried out four strikes on Syrian government forces’ units encirled by Daesh near Deir ez-Zor airport. The coalition’s aircraft entered Syrian airspace from the side of the Iraqi border,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said. The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces. Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport. DETAILS TO FOLLOW
https://www.rt.com/news/359678-us-strikes-syrian-army/
Sixty-two Syrian soldiers were killed and over 100 injured in the airstrike by the US-led coalition, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said, citing information received from the Syrian General Command.
The Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday that the aircraft which carried out the bombings had entered Syrian airspace from the territory of Iraq. The airstrike against Syrian positions was performed by two F-16 jet fighters and two A-10 support aircraft, it said.
US-led coalition aircraft strike Syrian army positions – Syrian General Command
US-led coalition jets have bombed Syrian government forces’ positions near the eastern city of Deir ez-Zor, “paving the way” for Islamic State militants, the Syrian Army General Command told the state television.
Sixty-two Syrian soldiers were killed and over 100 injured in the airstrike by the US-led coalition, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said, citing information received from the Syrian General Command.
“Today at 17:00-17:50 Moscow time, international anti-Daesh coalition (two F-16 and two A-10 jets) carried out four strikes on Syrian government forces’ units encirled by Daesh near Deir ez-Zor airport. The coalition’s aircraft entered Syrian airspace from the side of the Iraqi border,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.
Earlier in the day, the General Command of the Syrian army accused the US-led coalition of bombing the Syrian army’s positions in Deir ez-Zor.
As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces.
“If this airstrike was carried out due to an error in the coordinates of the targetm it is a direct consequence of US side’s unwillingless to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia,” the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman emphasized.
Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport.”
Time to single out Israel’s As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces.
“If this airstrike was carried out due to an error in the coordinates of the targetm it is a direct consequence of US side’s unwillingless to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia,” the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman emphasized.
Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport.”
Just “how” many straws must strike the camel’s back to break it. In my mind,for me,that one would do it. Syria should call for a UNSC meeting “one more time”. And don’t ask,demand,that the US stop its aggression against Syria. And if they refuse,target any and all American troops inside Syria.If they have the “vaunted” anti-aircraft missiles they “say” they have,”use them”. If they don’t use them against US planes killing their troops.That say’s to me they “don’t have them”. And claims that they do are purely a charade.This latest attack is unforgivable. And “should” be the final deal breaker. The Syrian government should refuse any idea of a “ceasefire” involving the US.They are lied to around the clock,by the US. And its time (past time) to stop being fooled by them.
Yup , on RT…..Moscow says the flights were not informed to coordinators.no way is USA coordinating anything with Russia so I recommend Syria demands USA coalition leave Syria or be shot down and sue’s for all reparations, treat it as a declaration of war….Moscow seeks urgent meeting UNSC. Claims this in effect protects isis……remember this kind of attack by USA coalition of c 67 countries before in the last year or two even on civilians….USA stopped flights claims was unintentional..??…yeah heard that before..usa lied about previous attacks too…….only proves the point that USA is only going to go its way alone……..I had read only this a.m the link by a poster re Jim Morrell ex cia his viewpoint that Assad’s “assets”, Russian “assets” should be directly targeted just to get the usa point over and put pressure on anyone who is gonna get in their way.
Will Lavrov still go to New York to meet Kerry to once yet again continue with negotiations and clarifications????Will 5 documents be published now?Is usa totally discredited now….one hopes so, as their public statements about support for vetted or approved and supported rebel opposition seem increasingly contrived and failing to hold the story line together.
DEIR EZZOR, SYRIA (3:45 P.M.) – Al-Masdar News was given exclusive information on Saturday, regarding the recent arrival of over 1,000 soldiers from the Syrian Arab Army’s Republican Guard in the Deir Ezzor Governorate.
The ceasefire is more or less terminated .The US has insisted in the caveat ,that the Syrian Air force must desist from conducting strike missions .What this means in laymen terms ,is that if the Syrians persist then they would have breached the agreement . That leaves the Russian Air Force against the US Air Force . How can anyone trust the USA .Its like voting Samatha Powers as the calendar girl along with Madelaine Albright .
The US is clearly laughing into our faces. The reaction by Russia is Churkin saying the attacks look “suspicious” and that the US needs to convince the world it was a mistake… and General Viktor Poznikhir saying that Russia is putting all its effort in restraining Syrian troops from returning fire in the orgy of attacks they’ve been subject to since the current “ceasefire” whose terms are secret. The extent of US regret for the “mistake” can be gauged by Samantha Power’s not even bothering to be there when Churkin spoke, and then making comments blaming Russia and Syria for the destruction of Syria.
It maybe that Russia has to respect Syria’s sovereignty and wishes now, I can easily imagine that SYRIA will not be persuadable to permit the rus-usa “agreement” to continue……..gonna be a whole lot of discussions and military assessments going on, can Syria survive without usa claiming to fight isis…..or are frantic telephone calls being made to China who have previously subtly indicated their concern for peace there.Could be a game changer…….if China is mobilised to come to Syria because they also see only duplicity of usa too, and would the Iranian and other groups with which Russia is in association with also be very vocal about continuing any presence of usa in the region…….there is maybe good enough reason for everyone to declare usa persona non grata?
“The United States and Russia exchanged allegations of ceasefire violations against both of their respective proxies on September 15th. According to Moscow, US-led forces has violated the ceasefire 32 times.”
A reminder of
“The Syrian Defense Ministry has issued a formal warning to the Turkish Armed Forces regarding breaches of Syrian airspace and a lack of communication with Damascus. Syria says that any Turkish aircraft that enters Syrian airspace without prior approval will become a target of the air defense forces.”
from Sept 14
Syrian Summary 15-16th from anna-news
Coalition aircraft – two F-16 and two A10 entered Syrian airspace from Iraq between 17: 00-17: 50 and carried out a strike on 4 positions of the Syrian Arab army in the province of Deir ez-Zor in the area of Jebel Thardeh.
The victims were airstrike at least 62 soldiers, about 100 people were injured. Immediately after hitting the militants IG went on the offensive.
US Central Command in a statement acknowledged that the American coalition inflicted air strikes on the positions of Syrian troops near the town of Deir ez-Zorom, but stated that warned them to Moscow and stopped the attack, when Russia announced the finding in the area of the Syrian army.
“Today, coalition aircraft struck the south of Deir ez-Zor in Syria. Coalition forces believed they strike at militant IG positions that they monitored for a considerable time before impact. Air strikes coalition were stopped immediately, as soon as the officials of the coalition were informed Russian officials that may have personnel and machines on which a strike belonged to the Syrian army, “- said in a statement the command of the
coalition.” The place of impact is in the area, where coalition struck in the past, members of the coalition in a joint center of military operations previously informed the Russian colleagues about impending air strike. It is not uncommon that the center of the coalition air operations talked with Russian officials in the framework of professional courtesy and to avoid conflicts between the planes of the coalition and Russia, although such contacts do not need the current memorandum of understanding of safety. In Syria – a difficult situation, where there are different military forces and militants in the vicinity of each other, but the coalition forces would not deliberately strike the known units of the Syrian army. The Coalition will consider the impact and the circumstances in which it was done, to see if you can learn from this lesson, “- said in a statement the US military.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that they are waiting for clarification from the US-led coalition in connection with the attacks on the troops of al-Assad in Syria. VKS Russian Federation will continue to strike at militants IG in the region of Deir ez-Zor and support the Syrian troops, was added to the Russian Defense Ministry.
The air-space forces of Russia has not been used during the incident with the attack of the US Air Force in the Syrian armed forces, he told reporters head of the main operational management of the General Staff of the Russian Armed forces, Lieutenant-General Sergey Rudskoy. “I want to emphasize that in this area at this time videoconferencing Russian Federation have not been applied. We believe that this incident with great loss of life has been made possible due to ignorance of the American side of the situation and the reluctance of the US side to coordinate with Russia its actions to combat terrorist groups in Syria” – he said.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova said that the attack by the Air Force of the American coalition Deir ez-Zorom jeopardizes an agreement on Syria, both on line “International Support Group Syria” and the UN Security Council, and on a bilateral Russian-American basis. “We have seen here these attacks. They put not just a question, they give, pardon the tautology, pass all that was before the international community, both MTT line, both through the UN Security Council, as well as on a bilateral basis, “- said Zakharov. “We proceed from the fact that over the past six months the international community has managed to do very much to the Syrian settlement could actually be implemented. Made almost impossible – two tracks were running in parallel, it was a political settlement and on the fight against terrorism. Documents have been taken along the line “Syria International Support Group”, which are then passed the approval of the UN Security Council … of the Russian-American agreements have been reached, a package of documents on how to conduct a joint struggle against terrorism “, – she said.
Moscow convene an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council after the international coalition aircraft made strikes on the positions of the Syrian army, which killed dozens of soldiers. This was reported by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry. “The Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN mission there an urgent meeting of the Security Council on this issue. We demand an explanation from Washington, complete and detailed. This explanation should be given in the UN Security Council, “- said Zakharov.
Syrian authorities sent to the UN Security Council two letters with the requirement to denounce the US-led coalition air strikes on the positions of Syrian troops on the outskirts of Deir ez-Zor.
Russian President Vladimir Putin explained why the US does not want to publish a Russian-American agreement on the Syrian settlement. “Our American partners are always and everywhere in favor of openness and transparency, but for me it is not surprising that in this case, they are moving away from that of his postulate. This is due to the difficulties faced by the United States on the Syrian track – they can not separate the so-called healthy part of the opposition from the semi-criminal and terrorist elements. In my opinion, this is dictated by the desire to maintain the combat potential in the fight against the legitimate government of Bashar al-Assad, but it is a very dangerous road, a dangerous trend of events. It seems that our American partners are again stepping on the same rake “- summed up the president. The President noted that Russia will not disclose the agreement without the consent of the American partners.
US President Barack Obama met with members of the UN Security Council. The head of the White House announced that the US will not cooperate with Russia on Syria, if not stop violence in the country. Obama also said that concerned about the blocking of humanitarian aid, which carries out the Syrian regime.
According to Obama, the agreement with Russia will be extended as long as Syria does not continuously decline during the 7 days of violence, and for the same time will not be provided humanitarian access.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that the United States will not build with Russia center to coordinate attacks in Syria, is not provided with humanitarian access, reported in the State Department. “The secretary made clear that the United States will present at the coordination center, with Russia only after the agreed conditions for humanitarian access will be provided,” – RIA “News” the State Department report.
Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin questioned the UN, the UN Security Council resolution in support of the agreement Russia and the US on Syria will be adopted, as the White House is not ready to disclose details of the agreement. For this reason, 16 September has not held a meeting of the Security Council on Syria, “the US is not ready to share the documents with the Security Council and even a detailed description of them. We can not ask the Council to support the document, the content of which they do not know. ” This Churkin called this strange position of the US, “which does not allow for a briefing and to advance with resolution.”
Reconnaissance aircraft of the US Navy P-8A Poseidon, tail number 168858, flew to the Russian air base in Syria and Hmeymim item logistics of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus. The aircraft also flew over the water area, where, presumably, there are warships permanent task force of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea.
The United States and under the control of her troops of the Syrian opposition is still not fulfilling its part of the US-Russian agreement on Syria, the first deputy chief of the Main Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia Viktor Poznihir.
“At the end of the fifth day of the armistice state that only the Russian and Syrian sides to fully implement commitments commitments. In Russia extended the initiative order the cessation of hostilities for 48 hours, and yesterday it was extended for another 72 hours, “- said Viktor Poznihir. He added that “the United States and under their control, the so-called moderate groups failed to fulfill any of the commitments undertaken in the framework of the Geneva agreements.”
According to him, numerous appeals to the US side remain unanswered, with the result that “there are doubts in the United States the ability to influence the forces under their control the moderate opposition and the willingness to continue to ensure the implementation of the Geneva agreements. ”
” The Russian Federation is making every possible effort in order to keep government forces from the retaliatory use of military force. If the American side did not take the necessary measures to fulfill its obligations under the agreement of September 9, the entire responsibility for the failure of the cessation of hostilities in Syria will be on the United States “, – summed up the chief of the General Staff of the GOU.
US evading the planned phone calls on Syria, said the head of the Centre for reconciliation in Syria, Vladimir Savchenko. “Not one of our letter to the US counterparts with information on violations of the cessation of hostilities by armed groups controlled by the United States, there was no answer. Moreover, the US refuses to conduct telephone conversations, including those planned in advance, as it was yesterday. This indicates that the US does not control the situation in Syria and are not ready to take steps under their control forced the militants to the implementation of the cessation of hostilities “, – transmits his words to RIA” Novosti “.
A spokesman for the White House Josh Ernest during today’s briefing, said the Syrian authorities blocked the delivery of humanitarian aid to the country. “The Assad regime does not comply with requests for the delivery of humanitarian aid … It blocks its delivery,” – said Ernest.
“In order to monitor the implementation of the objective of the ceasefire and the withdrawal of Syrian troops in those areas of Aleppo, the Russian Defense Ministry yesterday is a live broadcast from the video cameras on the ground and in the air drone. By the way, in the same hour in the air are three more American drone. However, our partners in Washington for some reason, the fourth day of the “shy” to talk about the real actions under their control “opposition” in the track “Castello” neighborhood. And indeed play the role of some third-party observers of what is happening, “- said the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Igor Konashenkov.
According to him, the question of the fundamental ability of the implementation of the ceasefire” moderate opposition “is still open. “All attempts by our American partners to show the world at least some control of his” opposition “in Syria is unsuccessful. And although the agreement on the cease-fire regime is a bilateral, – its actual implementation has been only one side “, – he said.
” Thus, the de facto authorities in Aleppo today, there is only one side is ready to negotiate, to observe the ceasefire and to withdraw troops for the passage of the UN humanitarian convoys – a Syrian government army. Second hand – “moderate opposition” of the organization, and accountability which so much was told, apparently, our American partners to find in Aleppo is not yet possible “- summed up Konashenkov.
During the visit, the Chief of the Russian General Staff, General Valery Gerasimov in Ankara pointed to the illegality of the actions of the Turkish army in Syria. During the meeting, Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Turkish General Staff pointed to General Hulusi Acar on the illegitimacy of the actions of Turkish armed forces in Syria. In addition to the Turkish side were brought possible military and political risks in the event of a tightening or further expansion of the scale of the operation “The Shield of the Euphrates.”
The number of settlements that have joined the reconciliation process has increased to 627. The number of armed groups that have declared their commitment to the terms of a cessation of hostilities, remained unchanged – 69.
During the day recorded 55 violations of the cessation of hostilities by illegal armed groups in Aleppo provinces (27), Damascus (11), Hama (7), Latakia (6), Homs (2), Quneitra (1) and Daraa (1) .Sutkami earlier – 39 violations. Since the beginning of the resumption of the cessation of hostilities recorded 199 of his abuses by illegal armed groups.
Russian VKS and Air Force Syria opposition militias, have declared a cessation of hostilities and to report to the Russian or American centers reconciliation information about their location, strikes are not applied.
The Syrian government guarantees the passage of humanitarian convoys for controlled her territory, but to date has not resolved the question of safety of passage of convoys through the territory controlled by the moderate opposition forces, the influence of which are US only.
Guidance Center for reconciliation of the warring sides in the Syrian Arab Republic to the head of the interdepartmental delegation the United States in Geneva W. Wood sent a letter with information about the failure of the moderate opposition to the cessation of hostilities. Also reported a cluster of militants in the northern province of Hama and possible attempts of their offensive operations.
The Russian side asked the US counterparts affect the leadership of the opposition, to keep them from rash actions, informing about the intention Command Syrian government troops in the event of militants accept forced proportionate response .
Illegal armed groups have not started synchronized with government troops withdrawal of weapons and equipment from the road, “Castello”, thereby not complying with its obligations in accordance with the Russian-American agreements.
Groups of opposition used the cease fighting for the restoration of combat capability and of regrouping in provinces of Aleppo, Hama and Homs. At the same time an increasing number of attacks on their part.
For these reasons, in Aleppo, government forces were forced to stop the withdrawal of troops and bring them back to their original positions.
The so-called “minister of information” IG killed in Syria as a result of the coalition air strike near the town of Raqqa.” http://www.anna-news.info/node/64670
google translate
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from Syrian perspective
DAYR EL-ZOR: To be specific, at the Al-Tharda Mountain which is still occupied by the Syrian Army – no thanks to the exceptional talent of the Americans for bungling or outright treachery, yesterday, the United States Air Force, flying out of Habbaaniyya AB in Iraq, with 2 F-16s and 2 A-10 Thunderbolts, crossed the Syrian border without permission and entered Syrian airspace without so much as a hint to the government in Damascus, which might have asked the Americans: WHAT IS YOUR TARGET GOING TO BE? And if the Americans responded with something like: “Those ISIS terrorists on Al-Tharda Mountain”, the Syrian government might have said: “Oh, no. Don’t do that. Our army is on that mountain.” And the whole mess could have been averted. 62 Syrian soldiers would still be alive…….We will not forget.
Americans have this penchant for self-aggrandizement. It’s a part of their cowboy mentality. It’s, you see, “American know-how” or “American elbow grease.” It’s what gets people stuck in Vietnam, for example. It also leads to mass slaughter with the United States always justifying its genocidal leanings with insistence on the “good war”. You must understand, the United States only kills people in the hundreds of thousands when old Americans in Washington, D.C., have this belief that they’re promoting justice, democracy and the American Way by killing as many innocents civilians as their military industrial complex will allow. Their soldiers are buried with all the pomp and circumstance attendant to dying for the cause of wholesale slaughter; whilst the innocent civilians whose lives they’ve taken or destroyed are offered friendship and love.
Don’t believe for one moment that the attack on the SAA at Jabal Al-Tharda was a mistake. Don’t you believe for one minute that the American military didn’t know the SAA was on the mountain. They could have gotten that tid-bit of information from reading SyrPer! And don’t believe for even a nano-second that American pilots cannot distinguish Syrian Army soldiers from ISIS terrorist rats. And what were the Americans doing at Dayr El-Zor, anyways? Helping the Syrian Army?
Oh, Samantha Powers, the American ambassador to the U.N. delivered the usual raft of lies in an effort to cover up another act of pure maliciousness. Of course the Americans are going to express regret and investigate the mess they created. But, is the apology real? Or is this an act of perfidy or infamy that sets the next phase of American intrusion into the lives of Syrians?
NOTE::
A message to Messrs. Putin and Assad from SyrPer:
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“We are sick and tired of dealing with the United States.
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The Americans, the Turks, the Zionists, the Arabians have all got to go.
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They are the enemy and they cannot be allies in any war against terrorism because they are the ***************************************************************************************************************
Uber-Terrorists.
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Without the Saudis and Americans, terrorism in Syria would end in 30 days, at most.
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Stop trying to deal with the U.S. You cannot.
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It is a country run by Zionism and as long as there is resistance to that infernal movement whose roots are in Eastern Europe, you cannot rely on any of the enemies we have just mentioned. Putin must know this. Why is he constantly playing the legalism card when it has got us nowhere? Let’s end the silliness once and for all. Sell the Syrian properties in D.C., the one on Wyoming N.W. and Kalorama Drive. Put an end to this issue, forever. Don’t ever open up diplomatic relations with the U.S., the U.K. France, Arabia or Turkey. They no longer exist! This is the least you can do to honor the dead soldiers on Al-Tharda”.
The American assault took place around 5:00 pm. on Saturday, September 17, 2016, (Damascus Time). It was uncanny how the ISIS vultures took the cue and coordinated their own attack on Syrian Army checkpoints and outposts on the mountain essentially regaining it for a short time. They didn’t seem to question for one moment what was happening and acted as though they knew the U.S. was providing them with some opportunity. Such an event can hardly pass for a mistake, my readers.
But, an enraged Syrian Army with the help of the PDC and Shu’aytaat Tribal militias, acting under the tenacious and ferocious aerial support of both the SAAF and RuAf, quickly restored army control over all Al-Tharda Mountain inflicting at least 100 casualties on the terrorist filth, destroying 10 vehicles, 6 of which were pickups with 23mm cannons. The air forces are continuing assaults today all around the area of Al-Tharda, Panorama and Al-‘Urfi.
In the process of attacking ISIS here, one Syrian aircraft, a MiG 23, crashed after it encountered technical problems occasioned by ISIS ack-ack fire. The pilot was wounded by a shell from a Doschka and was unable to eject. He died in the aircraft’s explosion on the ground. He has not been identified pending notice to his family. In Pace Requiescat to him and the 62 Syrian Army victims of American mayhem and murder.
JJ, thank you for the reports that you add here regularly (almost the only reason I read the comment section nowadays), It would take too much time for me to go through the news sites that you quote from. With your help I get to know what is going on.
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1863180“A US Air Force surveillance aircraft was reportedly downed on Sunday in the province of Deir ez-Zor, where American jets bombed Syrian forces encircled by Daesh terrorists a day earlier, killing 62 personnel.
Syrian Army brought down a UAV that was spotted hovering over mountains in the Jabal Therdeh area in the east of the province. AMN new agency, specified that shots were fired by the Syrian Arab Army’s 137th Artillery Brigade of the 17th Tank Division, though noting that drone managed to leave the Syrian airspace.”
So, USA checking out damage they have done, or sizing up the situation for another attack?
last chance saloon for usa coalition?
MOSCOW, September 19. /TASS/. The US and the Syrian opposition groups backed by Washington have not met any commitments under the Geneva deal on Syria, senior Russian military official Sergey Rudskoy told reporters on Monday.
“The United States and the groups of the so-called healthy opposition controlled by it have not met any of the commitments undertaken as part of the Geneva agreements. No separation of the moderate opposition and Jabhat al-Nusra has taken place,” said Rudskoy, who heads the main operations department of Russia’s General Staff.
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“Moreover, we see not separation but the merge of units of moderate opposition and Jabhat al-Nusra and their preparation for joint offensive,” Rudskoy said.
Alexander Zorin, a Russian defense ministry’s envoy to the Geneva-based task forces on ceasefire and humanitarian issues, said since September 12 Russia’s experts have handed over to US counterparts 16 requests for providing info.
“We have to state a very low activity of the American colleagues on responding to our well-founded concerns,” he said.
He reminded that the main condition of the ceasefire was separating the moderate opposition from the Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist group, which is outlawed in Russia. “Unfortunately, the American colleagues have not made any real steps in this direction so far,” Zorin said.
During the meetings in Geneva on Sunday and Monday, the US experts tried to convince Russia that the task of separating terrorists from the opposition was very challenging and they were working hard on solving it. “Still, no practical results of this activity have been provided so far,” he added.
Unilateral ceasefire observance is senseless
Rudskoy went on to say that the Russian Defense Ministry believes unilateral observance of ceasefire by Syrian government forces is senseless amidst ongoing shelling by militants.
“Taking into account the fact that militants are not observing the regime of cessation of hostilities, we believe its unilateral observance by Syrian government forces is senseless,” he said.
Rudskoy said US inability to influence the opposition is the reason behind continued shelling of government positions, and continued deaths of Syrian military and civilians.
No air strikes delivered at areas agreed in Geneva
According to Rudskoy, no air strikes have been delivered by either Russian or Syrian warplanes over the week at areas that were agreed under the Geneva deals.
“So now we know who participated in the premeditated murder of the 80 Syrian servicemen who were defending the besieged city of Deir Ezzor against ISIS.
These cowards came from the US, UK, Australia and Denmark.
“Premeditated” because the day before the slaughter they had their drones scanning the entire battlefield to make sure there would be no “mistakes” on whom they would target.
Meanwhile the US “regrets the loss of life” and “will investigate the mistake”.” https://www.facebook.com/Russia-Truth-714016298647274/
Btw….UK has a special programme to aid Syrian orphan children..not. .it refused to take up to 5000 as requested unaccompanied children already in Europe….but restated its commitment to accept refugees in camps within Syria…….maybe some are now orphaned where the planes attacked and killed brave SAA military…….
On the subject of this US illegal air-strikes on the SSA…
…Big giant; from myself and others who warned about this: we told you so!
But I’d like to know at what point Russia would accept at least partial responsibility for this. After all, it was them who invited everyone and their dog to “fight ISIS,” including the treacherous US and NATO countries [when what they should have done is the exact opposite of that: demand all meddlers to get lost or else], not to mention welcoming Turkey into the fight most recently. In turn the rabid Turks went after their arch-rivals, the Kurds in Syria rather than ISIS as soon as they’ve got released from their dog-collar leash. And it was freaking obvious that was gonna happen to anyone with more than two working brain-cells, FFS!
But not the Russians, nope. They were taken aback. Puzzled by the move. Mildly annoyed by Turkey’s actions. Issuing lame protestations about it.
Now we have Mr. Ed Kerry [I’m paraphrasing] saying that this is the time for Russia to show their commitment to the peace deal, to help to restrain Assad forces and make them stick to the cease fire agreements.
To me, this is like Minsk 2.0 all over again.
Groundhog Day, anyone?
Nato and USians [because now, we’re starting to learn that the Brits, Australians and Danes were also involved on the air-strikes] bombed the hell out of the legitimate Syrian military, and all over sudden, according to horse-face Kerry, is down to Russia to force the SSA to essentially: not shoot back (!?), not even when they’re under attack, basically.
Meanwhile, enough number of hours went pass after the event and all I can see is Russia shuffling around aimlessly… calling for an emergency UN meeting [which was a colossal waste of time, btw], some declarations coming out from the Russian Foreign Office and not much more.
All I’m seeing is that one side is being blatantly obvious about what their intentions really are and the Russians are eternally ‘pretending’ not to get their message. Which just happens to be the same message since back in the days of the Maidan protests.
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But as hopeless as all of these recent events may seem… at least they’re waking-up people by the truck load.
As ever, I invite you folks to check this link, particularly the comments. It’ll give you a real feeling that people are way past being sick & tired of all of this… the USian lies, USian “mistakes,” and it’s rallying more and more people in the West behind Russia and even Assad (which they were always kind of weary about, since they’re under a constant barrage of propaganda about how awful Assad supposedly is).
As I’ve said before; the worm is turning, but you wouldn’t know about it because the MSM is not covering it. Whoever said the revolution won’t be televised, was spot on.
Russian outrage as US air-strike hits Assad’s forces in Syria killing up to 62 soldiers, wounding more than 100 and threatening ceasefire
TooLegit2Quit said:
“To me, this is like Minsk 2.0 all over again.”
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Yes, except that in the case of the Donbass, the Russians didn’t intervene in such an obvious way, other than by helping.
In the case of Syria, they went in there with apparent resolve. Then, their reactions to the blatant outrages by the west have been frustratingly meek
“Yes, except that in the case of the Donbass, the Russians didn’t intervene in such an obvious way, other than by helping.
In the case of Syria, they went in there with apparent resolve. Then, their reactions to the blatant outrages by the west have been frustratingly meek”
Oh! You ain’t wrong there.
I’m well aware that there was more room for ‘plausible deniability’ and/or room for maneuvering for Russia back in the Dombass situation than there is now for them Syria.
Never the less, it seems the results are about to be the same.
All signs point to that from now on, the US [and allies] will blame anything that happens in Syria, on Russia, even when the US themselves kill Syrians armed forces [just as we all saw this weekend]. They’re bound to blame Russia for their own wrong-doings one way or another and probably use that as an excuse for more ‘sanctions’ or dog knows what else is coming down the pike.
It is in THAT sense, that this is already looking exactly like Minsk I & II.
Daily mail reporting Assad has said ceasefire over but Washington is willing to continue because the JIG agreements are between usa and Russia????????
Crosstalk on RT now new programme re tatters of ceasefire 19.30 Monday
Up to date news onsyrianperspective, seems like Syria has taken the lead to end ceasefire…..Turkey still has been trying to send supplies through to rebels, SAA to close Castillo roads Audi trying to prevent this move.
http://english.almanar.com.lb/31975
TODAY
The UN Security Council will hold an urgent meeting on Friday to hear details of a US-Russian deal on Syria as it weighs whether to endorse the agreement, diplomats said.
Council members will meet at 5:30 pm (2130 GMT) for the closed-door consultations called.
It would seem to me the best method would be to “massively bomb” the groups you know are Al Nursa. Of course the “moderate terrorists” are embedded with them. And when the US “whines”,tell them “now” is there one and only chance to save their “stooges”. If they separate within 48 hours,they live. If not the bombing will go on,and on,until “all” terrorists are destroyed.In that case Syria and Russia “win” either way.While Iran “should” do “anything and everything” to supply the Yemenis with support for their attacks in Saudi Arabia itself.If the Yemenis breakthrough deeply into Saudi Arabia the Saudis will have much more to worry about than supporting Jihadis in Syria.At that point,Assad can offer to “only” have negotiations with those groups that don’t have “foreign Jihadis” in them.Offer a deal to the “Syrian” opposition.And promise total destruction to “any” foreign Jihadi found in Syria after a certain time.Its time to play hardball in this war.And end this “seemingly endless charade” of useless “diplomacy”.
Maybe the secret part of the agreement would be rejected by Israel. I dont think that the leadership of the jewish state care for peace too much. After all, their whole existence is predicated on stealing from others.
I think the Saudis are not the only ones that are concerned with peace showing its ugly face in the middle east. As long as the west can keep its many enemies fighting each other while pretending to be the good guy… It is like the crusade all over again. So sad that we do not study history, this thing is getting old very fast.
I fully agree with UB 1. Unless one postulates that each time they eliminate the terrorists the empire will find new ones to replace them and like this it can go on and on.
The issue is a battle between utter falsehood ,and evil and those who stand at least for some truth.. All that talk with the evil side is futile and the bloodshed of innocents continues. One does not talk with Hitlers one blows them out of existence. failure to do so makes things worse and worse and ultimately tit leads to the big Armageddon.
RT tonight reporting free Syrian army ejecting USA commandoes as troops from their association…….will not tolerate the infidels any more….USA says this is not acceptable……despite spending billions to create?support “moderate opposition rebels”…meanwhile sky TV following USA strident line that Russia is now to be blamed for failure of humanitarian aid to get through to all Aleppo-though earlier reports have found so just an associate’s refusing this aid because they want to be difficult……maybe USA been all along been trying to set up the blame game against Russia to totally discredit them,up and coming UNSC expected to be very tough going especially as the chlorine gas by Assad is being pushed by UN despite inconsistencies……..??????
Could be staged, the US needs to uphold the perception its citizens have of the US being opposite of ISIS instead of funding it.
USA refusing to jointly setup information exchange because the has not ensured aid gets through…..Russia saying will release , must do so, the 5 documents because USA is reinterpreting documents just like they have done before , this time or again continuing to protect al-nusrah???????
Tass900346
….why am i sick of all this. How do diplomats keep on doing what ever it is they do. ‘Politicians’ we know about, there be fame and riches beyond compare, empires to make them immortal. For the others, offer them 16 vestal virgins or something….
Diplomats are the first line of defence. Their weapons are words. If they are overrun, the guns open up and people will die.
Peter, with all respect, how many times do you need to shake hands with the devil, to find out that your hands are bloody & fishy smelling all over again? Yes, and in between there are innocent people dying again & non stop.
Somehow, I am running out of the lessons from Sun Tzu (regarding Russia’s diplomacy etc.).
Or, maybe, I have an incomplete version of it with the best pages stolen by Obomber, NSA etc…? ;)
Look, this conflict is lasting already since 5 years. Isn’t it enough time to get smart for the guys in Kremlin? And my prayers are with anyone, who is trying to limit/end/finish etc. any war & suffering of the people “on the ground”.
ps: VVP idolaters, pls. keep your breath. I am on your side till VVP will “do the right thing” (which, of course, we will see only from the distance of the time…. back with the Sunt Tzu point again, right…?)
UN Security Council cancels Syria meeting after US refuses to release ceasefire details
Then the news gets even better:
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/09/16/485027/US-Turkey-Syria-Daesh-
The US Special Operation Forces are helping Turkish troops to allegedly fight Daesh terrorists in Syria, the Pentagon confirms.
The American troops had been deployed to Turkey at Ankara’s request to help its forces in and around the Syrian border, Pentagon spokesman Jeff Davis said in a statement on Friday.
The US forces are helping Turkish troops and so-called moderate Syrian opposition forces near the towns of Jarabulus and Ar Rai, Davis added.
I don’t think that there is much of a ceasefire going on.
Why another round of cease-fires when the Syrian Army is winning? There are no mutual interests between Washington and Moscow in Syria. This is about Russia giving Washington another chance to pull out it’s special forces, aids, and advisors out of target areas. The Russian’s simply don’t want to bomb Americans. And if something does go wrong, hey, we gave you warning after warning to leave the terror groups.
Moderate’ Rebels Force US Commandos to Run From Syrian Town
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160916/1045389953/moderate-rebels-chase-us-commandos.html
Seems somebody got confused about their place in the zionazi pecking order.
” ‘Christians and Americans have no place among us’ , one fighter shouts. ‘They want to wage war to occupy Syria’ “
Ooops, must be a Putin-bot doing Kremlin’s dirty work here, am I right? MSM about to switch their narratives PDQ about those ‘moderates’, that’s for sure. Also, it looks like a subtle, pretty amusing backhanded compliment to phrase it Christians and Americans. To me, the latter come across as Satanists, practicing limitless self-worship and hatred of others.
Only thing this ‘ceasefire’ will accomplish is to keep ringing that cash register to pushit over $5T.
Almost certainly they’ll get some quiet time to complete those 3 airfields going in in north Syria Kurdistan.
4 if u count Kobani twice, because it’s got a separate base for those separatiste malodorous Frenchie cochons .
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-war-on-terror-approaching-5-trillion-repor/
US War on Terror spent nearly $5 trillion – report
By Paul Antonopoulos –
17/09/2016 0
A report by the Cost of War Projects has claimed that the US spent $4.79 trillion on wars in the Middle East and on the ‘War on Terror’ after the September 2001 terrorist attacks.
The report which is run by Brown University’s Watson Institute, counted the total budgetary cost of the wars America waged in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Syria as well as on counter-terrorism and includes future obligations to spend budgetary money through 2053, estimated future spending on veterans, interest already paid for money borrowed for the war effort and other commitments.
worst kept secret of all, article here wee hours 17th, but I saw post 12 hours ago by Canthama on Ziad’s site said huge convoys heading there Hama 16th.
this article is from his son, Leith.
HAMA, SYRIA (2:20 A.M.) – The situation in northern Hama is about to get interesting, as both the Syrian Armed Forces and the jihadist rebels have offensives planned in the coming days.
However, the jihadist rebels might not get the opportunity to continue their large-scale Hama offensive because the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) “Tiger Forces” have already mobilized and positioned themselves for their long-awaited counter-attack.
An Al-Masdar field journalist embedded with the Tiger Forces in northern Hama reported on Friday night that zero hour has approached and that the Syrian Armed Forces are preparing to strike the jihadist rebels in the coming hours.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/zero-hour-approaches-northern-hama-will-attack-first/
Decapitating a 14 year old Palestinian kid, after kidnapping him out of hospital = moderate opposition.
I apologize for being unable to view Southfront’s videos – I rely on comments for informational background and see two that reference the UN Security Council meeting. I saved this quote from RT’s description of Russia’s assessment of the ceasefire situation:
“Lavrov also stressed that ‘as result of Russia’s efforts, the issues of putting on track cooperation between the Syrian authorities and the United Nations in the area of broader humanitarian access are being solved, though not without difficulty.'”
One of the under-reported consequences of the attempted ceasefire might well be a swinging away of UN power plays from US domination to a more equitable and compassionate approach to Syria’s plight (and the plights of Yemen, Libya, etc.) and the eventual isolation of US and others’s dreams of glory. (Sorry about the misplaced apostrophe there.)
With respect to the latter, economics looms large. Russia and the sane world at large can afford to be patient and indeed they must. It is the only way. It is very sad that in the meantime, lives and property are wantonly destroyed as the US and its proxies desperately attempt to hang onto power.
Putin: Terrorists use Syria ceasefire to try & regroup
https://www.rt.com/news/359644-terrorists-regroup-syria-ceasefire/
“We agreed that the Al-Nusra Front and the likes of it would be separated from the so-called healthy opposition factions, and we would be shown where the latter are located. But what we see today is not separation of the healthy part of the opposition and the terrorists. We see terrorist forces trying to regroup.” Vladimir Putin told journalists on Saturday.”
US & US-controlled forces haven’t fulfilled any Syria ceasefire deal obligations – Russian Army
https://www.rt.com/news/359653-us-rebels-syria-deal-obligations/
“After five days of the ceasefire, it has to be noted that only the Russian and Syrian sides have been fully implementing their commitments. On its own initiative, Russia prolonged the cessation of hostilities for 48 hours, and yesterday it was extended for another 72 hours,” senior Russian General Staff official, Viktor Poznikhir, said at a briefing in Moscow.
But, according to Poznikhir, it is very different on the American side as “the US and the so-called moderate groups under their control didn’t fulfill a single commitment undertaken in the framework of the Geneva arrangements.”
Seriously though. Did anyone ever “really” think they would. And if they did think that,on what bases did they have for thinking that. Did the US maybe “this” time do a “pinky swear” or something.I’m constantly reminded here of the saying “fool me once,shame on you.Fool me twice (let alone a dozen times), shame on me”. I know a person that is a pathological liar. He just can’t tell the truth. No matter on what subject. Its a mental issue with him.Now after being “burned” a couple of times. I “never” believe anything he tells me. If he told me it was sunny outside I’d grab an umbrella before going out.The US promises to Russia are on that level. But at least I realized the problem with that person and stopped believing him. I wonder how to say to Russia in Russian, “if their lips are moving,they are lying”.
Just read following and the same thoughts came into my mind (like for a 1000th time already):
Putin said that despite the set-backs, Moscow is hopeful that this attempt at reconciliation in Syria would succeed.
“We are more positive than negative and expect that the promises, which the US administration made to us, would be delivered,” he said.
source: https://www.rt.com/news/359644-terrorists-regroup-syria-ceasefire/
Maybe this whole game starts to be too sophisticated for me…
Damascus Accuses US-Led Coalition of Bombing Syrian Army in Deir Ez-Zor
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045414848/syria-us-led-coalition.html
“The General Command of the Syrian army has accused the US-led coalition of bombing the Syrian army’s positions in Deir ez-Zor, SANA news agency reported.
The Syrian military said that aircraft of the US-led coalition targeted Syrian government forces near Deir ez-Zor airport, state media reported. DETAILS TO FOLLOW”
It appears that israel’s pindo colony is doing what everybody expected the cowardly scum would do.
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1862620
17 September 2016 18:52
URGENT: Russia Says US ‘Responsible’ if Syria Truce Breaks Down
this ceasefire only good for 7 days, to Sep 19th, if it even means anything now at all.
likely all that positioning of troops & materiel buildup at/around Hama is timed to go ahead if/when hope of any real ceasefire is lost, or just after the 7 days times out.
Ceasefire? What ceasefire?
https://twitter.com/halabtweets/status/777200265413951489
https://twitter.com/ww3updates/status/777200827840630784
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/777201978820526081
https://twitter.com/iadtawil/status/777201960520941568
Russian MoD Confirms Two F-16 Jets and Two A10 Aircraft Attacked Syrian Army
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045415141/russia-syria-army-attacked.html
20:53 17.09.2016 (updated 21:08 17.09.2016)
The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that Syrian army positions were attacked by two F-16 fighter jets and two A-10 ground attack aircraft of the US-led coalition.
“Today at 17:00-17:50 Moscow time, international anti-Daesh coalition (two F-16 and two A10 jets) carried out four strikes on Syrian government forces’ units encirled by Daesh near Deir ez-Zor airport. The coalition’s aircraft entered Syrian airspace from the side of the Iraqi border,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said. The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces. Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport. DETAILS TO FOLLOW
Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045415141/russia-syria-army-attacked.html
https://www.rt.com/news/359678-us-strikes-syrian-army/
Sixty-two Syrian soldiers were killed and over 100 injured in the airstrike by the US-led coalition, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said, citing information received from the Syrian General Command.
The Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday that the aircraft which carried out the bombings had entered Syrian airspace from the territory of Iraq. The airstrike against Syrian positions was performed by two F-16 jet fighters and two A-10 support aircraft, it said.
US-led coalition aircraft strike Syrian army positions – Syrian General Command
US-led coalition jets have bombed Syrian government forces’ positions near the eastern city of Deir ez-Zor, “paving the way” for Islamic State militants, the Syrian Army General Command told the state television.
Sixty-two Syrian soldiers were killed and over 100 injured in the airstrike by the US-led coalition, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said, citing information received from the Syrian General Command.
https://www.rt.com/news/359678-us-strikes-syrian-army/
Russian MoD Confirms US-Led Coalition’s F-16, A-10 Jets Attacked Syrian Army
https://m.sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160917/1045415141/russia-syria-army-attacked.html
“Today at 17:00-17:50 Moscow time, international anti-Daesh coalition (two F-16 and two A-10 jets) carried out four strikes on Syrian government forces’ units encirled by Daesh near Deir ez-Zor airport. The coalition’s aircraft entered Syrian airspace from the side of the Iraqi border,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.
Earlier in the day, the General Command of the Syrian army accused the US-led coalition of bombing the Syrian army’s positions in Deir ez-Zor.
As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces.
“If this airstrike was carried out due to an error in the coordinates of the targetm it is a direct consequence of US side’s unwillingless to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia,” the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman emphasized.
Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport.”
Time to single out Israel’s As a result of the attack, 62 Syrian soldiers were killed and some 100 others were injured, according to information received from the Syrian command in Deir ez-Zor, he said.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that Daesh terrorists launched an offensive soon after the US-led coalition aircraft attacked the Syrian government forces.
“If this airstrike was carried out due to an error in the coordinates of the targetm it is a direct consequence of US side’s unwillingless to coordinate its actions against terrorist groups with Russia,” the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman emphasized.
Konashenkov said that fighting with terrorists has been taking place near the Deir ez-Zor airport.”
Just “how” many straws must strike the camel’s back to break it. In my mind,for me,that one would do it. Syria should call for a UNSC meeting “one more time”. And don’t ask,demand,that the US stop its aggression against Syria. And if they refuse,target any and all American troops inside Syria.If they have the “vaunted” anti-aircraft missiles they “say” they have,”use them”. If they don’t use them against US planes killing their troops.That say’s to me they “don’t have them”. And claims that they do are purely a charade.This latest attack is unforgivable. And “should” be the final deal breaker. The Syrian government should refuse any idea of a “ceasefire” involving the US.They are lied to around the clock,by the US. And its time (past time) to stop being fooled by them.
Yup , on RT…..Moscow says the flights were not informed to coordinators.no way is USA coordinating anything with Russia so I recommend Syria demands USA coalition leave Syria or be shot down and sue’s for all reparations, treat it as a declaration of war….Moscow seeks urgent meeting UNSC. Claims this in effect protects isis……remember this kind of attack by USA coalition of c 67 countries before in the last year or two even on civilians….USA stopped flights claims was unintentional..??…yeah heard that before..usa lied about previous attacks too…….only proves the point that USA is only going to go its way alone……..I had read only this a.m the link by a poster re Jim Morrell ex cia his viewpoint that Assad’s “assets”, Russian “assets” should be directly targeted just to get the usa point over and put pressure on anyone who is gonna get in their way.
Will Lavrov still go to New York to meet Kerry to once yet again continue with negotiations and clarifications????Will 5 documents be published now?Is usa totally discredited now….one hopes so, as their public statements about support for vetted or approved and supported rebel opposition seem increasingly contrived and failing to hold the story line together.
Russia convenes urgent UN Security Council meeting after US coalition strikes on Syrian army
https://www.rt.com/news/359686-un-security-urgent-meeting/
Marwa Osman talks to RT International
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDViWuNRciU
(great interview, Syrians are outraged)
I see others are aware that the US struck Syria, brutally and intentionally!
Despite their lies, which are as always pathetic
I’ve got a bunch of news items in two posts- have been following since the story broke
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/09/us-airstrikes-hit-syrian-arab-army-to.html
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/09/breaking-russia-wants-emergenct-un.html
Jamming Syrian radar is a prove that US intended to strike the SAA
https://twitter.com/syrianmilitary/status/777236099605360640
US said that they have hit ISIS in this same position before
ISIS was never in control of Al Thadah in Dir Al Zor
https://twitter.com/syrianmilitary/status/777244774940217344
FYI, #Thardah mountain is made of a series of 6hills, all under #SAA control with no prior presence of #Isis on them
https://twitter.com/HalaJaber/status/777254568803594240
Hours before the US bombed the #Syrian army, 1000 of Elite Syrian Commandos had arrived in Deirzzour to fight #ISIS
https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/777268583579590656
DEIR EZZOR, SYRIA (3:45 P.M.) – Al-Masdar News was given exclusive information on Saturday, regarding the recent arrival of over 1,000 soldiers from the Syrian Arab Army’s Republican Guard in the Deir Ezzor Governorate.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/exclusive-1000-elite-syrian-army-soldiers-arrive-deir-ezzor/
The ceasefire is more or less terminated .The US has insisted in the caveat ,that the Syrian Air force must desist from conducting strike missions .What this means in laymen terms ,is that if the Syrians persist then they would have breached the agreement . That leaves the Russian Air Force against the US Air Force . How can anyone trust the USA .Its like voting Samatha Powers as the calendar girl along with Madelaine Albright .
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160918/1045422315/samantha-power-obama-russia-syria.html
Nuland and this horrid Bitch. …The Presence on TV for the US is screaming harpies with John McCain lies and
Lindsey Graham roaring mouse for Israel.
This COH is busted. …Putin and Lavrov need to walk from it and give up on the fantasy Geneva framework too.
Otherwise. …it’s oops we bombed you….oops we lied again.
The US is clearly laughing into our faces. The reaction by Russia is Churkin saying the attacks look “suspicious” and that the US needs to convince the world it was a mistake… and General Viktor Poznikhir saying that Russia is putting all its effort in restraining Syrian troops from returning fire in the orgy of attacks they’ve been subject to since the current “ceasefire” whose terms are secret. The extent of US regret for the “mistake” can be gauged by Samantha Power’s not even bothering to be there when Churkin spoke, and then making comments blaming Russia and Syria for the destruction of Syria.
It is all grand nonsense, and it looks like Russia will simply take it. As Paul Craig Roberts says, Russia just keeps doing the same thing over and over and over again (absurd deals with the US) each time expecting that they won’t be betrayed.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/17/russia-has-no-partners-in-the-west-paul-craig-roberts/
It maybe that Russia has to respect Syria’s sovereignty and wishes now, I can easily imagine that SYRIA will not be persuadable to permit the rus-usa “agreement” to continue……..gonna be a whole lot of discussions and military assessments going on, can Syria survive without usa claiming to fight isis…..or are frantic telephone calls being made to China who have previously subtly indicated their concern for peace there.Could be a game changer…….if China is mobilised to come to Syria because they also see only duplicity of usa too, and would the Iranian and other groups with which Russia is in association with also be very vocal about continuing any presence of usa in the region…….there is maybe good enough reason for everyone to declare usa persona non grata?
Paul Craig Roberts
Russia has no partners in the West
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09/17/russia-has-no-partners-in-the-west-paul-craig-roberts/
South front has also reported that Turkish artillery has also targeted Syrian military positions……
more
latest southfront
“The United States and Russia exchanged allegations of ceasefire violations against both of their respective proxies on September 15th. According to Moscow, US-led forces has violated the ceasefire 32 times.”
A reminder of
“The Syrian Defense Ministry has issued a formal warning to the Turkish Armed Forces regarding breaches of Syrian airspace and a lack of communication with Damascus. Syria says that any Turkish aircraft that enters Syrian airspace without prior approval will become a target of the air defense forces.”
from Sept 14
Syrian Summary 15-16th from anna-news
Coalition aircraft – two F-16 and two A10 entered Syrian airspace from Iraq between 17: 00-17: 50 and carried out a strike on 4 positions of the Syrian Arab army in the province of Deir ez-Zor in the area of Jebel Thardeh.
The victims were airstrike at least 62 soldiers, about 100 people were injured. Immediately after hitting the militants IG went on the offensive.
US Central Command in a statement acknowledged that the American coalition inflicted air strikes on the positions of Syrian troops near the town of Deir ez-Zorom, but stated that warned them to Moscow and stopped the attack, when Russia announced the finding in the area of the Syrian army.
“Today, coalition aircraft struck the south of Deir ez-Zor in Syria. Coalition forces believed they strike at militant IG positions that they monitored for a considerable time before impact. Air strikes coalition were stopped immediately, as soon as the officials of the coalition were informed Russian officials that may have personnel and machines on which a strike belonged to the Syrian army, “- said in a statement the command of the
coalition.” The place of impact is in the area, where coalition struck in the past, members of the coalition in a joint center of military operations previously informed the Russian colleagues about impending air strike. It is not uncommon that the center of the coalition air operations talked with Russian officials in the framework of professional courtesy and to avoid conflicts between the planes of the coalition and Russia, although such contacts do not need the current memorandum of understanding of safety. In Syria – a difficult situation, where there are different military forces and militants in the vicinity of each other, but the coalition forces would not deliberately strike the known units of the Syrian army. The Coalition will consider the impact and the circumstances in which it was done, to see if you can learn from this lesson, “- said in a statement the US military.
The Russian Defense Ministry said that they are waiting for clarification from the US-led coalition in connection with the attacks on the troops of al-Assad in Syria. VKS Russian Federation will continue to strike at militants IG in the region of Deir ez-Zor and support the Syrian troops, was added to the Russian Defense Ministry.
The air-space forces of Russia has not been used during the incident with the attack of the US Air Force in the Syrian armed forces, he told reporters head of the main operational management of the General Staff of the Russian Armed forces, Lieutenant-General Sergey Rudskoy. “I want to emphasize that in this area at this time videoconferencing Russian Federation have not been applied. We believe that this incident with great loss of life has been made possible due to ignorance of the American side of the situation and the reluctance of the US side to coordinate with Russia its actions to combat terrorist groups in Syria” – he said.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova said that the attack by the Air Force of the American coalition Deir ez-Zorom jeopardizes an agreement on Syria, both on line “International Support Group Syria” and the UN Security Council, and on a bilateral Russian-American basis. “We have seen here these attacks. They put not just a question, they give, pardon the tautology, pass all that was before the international community, both MTT line, both through the UN Security Council, as well as on a bilateral basis, “- said Zakharov. “We proceed from the fact that over the past six months the international community has managed to do very much to the Syrian settlement could actually be implemented. Made almost impossible – two tracks were running in parallel, it was a political settlement and on the fight against terrorism. Documents have been taken along the line “Syria International Support Group”, which are then passed the approval of the UN Security Council … of the Russian-American agreements have been reached, a package of documents on how to conduct a joint struggle against terrorism “, – she said.
Moscow convene an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council after the international coalition aircraft made strikes on the positions of the Syrian army, which killed dozens of soldiers. This was reported by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry. “The Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN mission there an urgent meeting of the Security Council on this issue. We demand an explanation from Washington, complete and detailed. This explanation should be given in the UN Security Council, “- said Zakharov.
Syrian authorities sent to the UN Security Council two letters with the requirement to denounce the US-led coalition air strikes on the positions of Syrian troops on the outskirts of Deir ez-Zor.
Russian President Vladimir Putin explained why the US does not want to publish a Russian-American agreement on the Syrian settlement. “Our American partners are always and everywhere in favor of openness and transparency, but for me it is not surprising that in this case, they are moving away from that of his postulate. This is due to the difficulties faced by the United States on the Syrian track – they can not separate the so-called healthy part of the opposition from the semi-criminal and terrorist elements. In my opinion, this is dictated by the desire to maintain the combat potential in the fight against the legitimate government of Bashar al-Assad, but it is a very dangerous road, a dangerous trend of events. It seems that our American partners are again stepping on the same rake “- summed up the president. The President noted that Russia will not disclose the agreement without the consent of the American partners.
US President Barack Obama met with members of the UN Security Council. The head of the White House announced that the US will not cooperate with Russia on Syria, if not stop violence in the country. Obama also said that concerned about the blocking of humanitarian aid, which carries out the Syrian regime.
According to Obama, the agreement with Russia will be extended as long as Syria does not continuously decline during the 7 days of violence, and for the same time will not be provided humanitarian access.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that the United States will not build with Russia center to coordinate attacks in Syria, is not provided with humanitarian access, reported in the State Department. “The secretary made clear that the United States will present at the coordination center, with Russia only after the agreed conditions for humanitarian access will be provided,” – RIA “News” the State Department report.
Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin questioned the UN, the UN Security Council resolution in support of the agreement Russia and the US on Syria will be adopted, as the White House is not ready to disclose details of the agreement. For this reason, 16 September has not held a meeting of the Security Council on Syria, “the US is not ready to share the documents with the Security Council and even a detailed description of them. We can not ask the Council to support the document, the content of which they do not know. ” This Churkin called this strange position of the US, “which does not allow for a briefing and to advance with resolution.”
Reconnaissance aircraft of the US Navy P-8A Poseidon, tail number 168858, flew to the Russian air base in Syria and Hmeymim item logistics of the Russian Navy in the Syrian port of Tartus. The aircraft also flew over the water area, where, presumably, there are warships permanent task force of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea.
The United States and under the control of her troops of the Syrian opposition is still not fulfilling its part of the US-Russian agreement on Syria, the first deputy chief of the Main Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia Viktor Poznihir.
“At the end of the fifth day of the armistice state that only the Russian and Syrian sides to fully implement commitments commitments. In Russia extended the initiative order the cessation of hostilities for 48 hours, and yesterday it was extended for another 72 hours, “- said Viktor Poznihir. He added that “the United States and under their control, the so-called moderate groups failed to fulfill any of the commitments undertaken in the framework of the Geneva agreements.”
According to him, numerous appeals to the US side remain unanswered, with the result that “there are doubts in the United States the ability to influence the forces under their control the moderate opposition and the willingness to continue to ensure the implementation of the Geneva agreements. ”
” The Russian Federation is making every possible effort in order to keep government forces from the retaliatory use of military force. If the American side did not take the necessary measures to fulfill its obligations under the agreement of September 9, the entire responsibility for the failure of the cessation of hostilities in Syria will be on the United States “, – summed up the chief of the General Staff of the GOU.
US evading the planned phone calls on Syria, said the head of the Centre for reconciliation in Syria, Vladimir Savchenko. “Not one of our letter to the US counterparts with information on violations of the cessation of hostilities by armed groups controlled by the United States, there was no answer. Moreover, the US refuses to conduct telephone conversations, including those planned in advance, as it was yesterday. This indicates that the US does not control the situation in Syria and are not ready to take steps under their control forced the militants to the implementation of the cessation of hostilities “, – transmits his words to RIA” Novosti “.
A spokesman for the White House Josh Ernest during today’s briefing, said the Syrian authorities blocked the delivery of humanitarian aid to the country. “The Assad regime does not comply with requests for the delivery of humanitarian aid … It blocks its delivery,” – said Ernest.
“In order to monitor the implementation of the objective of the ceasefire and the withdrawal of Syrian troops in those areas of Aleppo, the Russian Defense Ministry yesterday is a live broadcast from the video cameras on the ground and in the air drone. By the way, in the same hour in the air are three more American drone. However, our partners in Washington for some reason, the fourth day of the “shy” to talk about the real actions under their control “opposition” in the track “Castello” neighborhood. And indeed play the role of some third-party observers of what is happening, “- said the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Igor Konashenkov.
According to him, the question of the fundamental ability of the implementation of the ceasefire” moderate opposition “is still open. “All attempts by our American partners to show the world at least some control of his” opposition “in Syria is unsuccessful. And although the agreement on the cease-fire regime is a bilateral, – its actual implementation has been only one side “, – he said.
” Thus, the de facto authorities in Aleppo today, there is only one side is ready to negotiate, to observe the ceasefire and to withdraw troops for the passage of the UN humanitarian convoys – a Syrian government army. Second hand – “moderate opposition” of the organization, and accountability which so much was told, apparently, our American partners to find in Aleppo is not yet possible “- summed up Konashenkov.
During the visit, the Chief of the Russian General Staff, General Valery Gerasimov in Ankara pointed to the illegality of the actions of the Turkish army in Syria. During the meeting, Valery Gerasimov, chief of the Turkish General Staff pointed to General Hulusi Acar on the illegitimacy of the actions of Turkish armed forces in Syria. In addition to the Turkish side were brought possible military and political risks in the event of a tightening or further expansion of the scale of the operation “The Shield of the Euphrates.”
The number of settlements that have joined the reconciliation process has increased to 627. The number of armed groups that have declared their commitment to the terms of a cessation of hostilities, remained unchanged – 69.
During the day recorded 55 violations of the cessation of hostilities by illegal armed groups in Aleppo provinces (27), Damascus (11), Hama (7), Latakia (6), Homs (2), Quneitra (1) and Daraa (1) .Sutkami earlier – 39 violations. Since the beginning of the resumption of the cessation of hostilities recorded 199 of his abuses by illegal armed groups.
Russian VKS and Air Force Syria opposition militias, have declared a cessation of hostilities and to report to the Russian or American centers reconciliation information about their location, strikes are not applied.
The Syrian government guarantees the passage of humanitarian convoys for controlled her territory, but to date has not resolved the question of safety of passage of convoys through the territory controlled by the moderate opposition forces, the influence of which are US only.
Guidance Center for reconciliation of the warring sides in the Syrian Arab Republic to the head of the interdepartmental delegation the United States in Geneva W. Wood sent a letter with information about the failure of the moderate opposition to the cessation of hostilities. Also reported a cluster of militants in the northern province of Hama and possible attempts of their offensive operations.
The Russian side asked the US counterparts affect the leadership of the opposition, to keep them from rash actions, informing about the intention Command Syrian government troops in the event of militants accept forced proportionate response .
Illegal armed groups have not started synchronized with government troops withdrawal of weapons and equipment from the road, “Castello”, thereby not complying with its obligations in accordance with the Russian-American agreements.
Groups of opposition used the cease fighting for the restoration of combat capability and of regrouping in provinces of Aleppo, Hama and Homs. At the same time an increasing number of attacks on their part.
For these reasons, in Aleppo, government forces were forced to stop the withdrawal of troops and bring them back to their original positions.
The so-called “minister of information” IG killed in Syria as a result of the coalition air strike near the town of Raqqa.”
http://www.anna-news.info/node/64670
google translate
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from Syrian perspective
DAYR EL-ZOR: To be specific, at the Al-Tharda Mountain which is still occupied by the Syrian Army – no thanks to the exceptional talent of the Americans for bungling or outright treachery, yesterday, the United States Air Force, flying out of Habbaaniyya AB in Iraq, with 2 F-16s and 2 A-10 Thunderbolts, crossed the Syrian border without permission and entered Syrian airspace without so much as a hint to the government in Damascus, which might have asked the Americans: WHAT IS YOUR TARGET GOING TO BE? And if the Americans responded with something like: “Those ISIS terrorists on Al-Tharda Mountain”, the Syrian government might have said: “Oh, no. Don’t do that. Our army is on that mountain.” And the whole mess could have been averted. 62 Syrian soldiers would still be alive…….We will not forget.
Americans have this penchant for self-aggrandizement. It’s a part of their cowboy mentality. It’s, you see, “American know-how” or “American elbow grease.” It’s what gets people stuck in Vietnam, for example. It also leads to mass slaughter with the United States always justifying its genocidal leanings with insistence on the “good war”. You must understand, the United States only kills people in the hundreds of thousands when old Americans in Washington, D.C., have this belief that they’re promoting justice, democracy and the American Way by killing as many innocents civilians as their military industrial complex will allow. Their soldiers are buried with all the pomp and circumstance attendant to dying for the cause of wholesale slaughter; whilst the innocent civilians whose lives they’ve taken or destroyed are offered friendship and love.
Don’t believe for one moment that the attack on the SAA at Jabal Al-Tharda was a mistake. Don’t you believe for one minute that the American military didn’t know the SAA was on the mountain. They could have gotten that tid-bit of information from reading SyrPer! And don’t believe for even a nano-second that American pilots cannot distinguish Syrian Army soldiers from ISIS terrorist rats. And what were the Americans doing at Dayr El-Zor, anyways? Helping the Syrian Army?
Oh, Samantha Powers, the American ambassador to the U.N. delivered the usual raft of lies in an effort to cover up another act of pure maliciousness. Of course the Americans are going to express regret and investigate the mess they created. But, is the apology real? Or is this an act of perfidy or infamy that sets the next phase of American intrusion into the lives of Syrians?
NOTE::
A message to Messrs. Putin and Assad from SyrPer:
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“We are sick and tired of dealing with the United States.
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The Americans, the Turks, the Zionists, the Arabians have all got to go.
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They are the enemy and they cannot be allies in any war against terrorism because they are the ***************************************************************************************************************
Uber-Terrorists.
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Without the Saudis and Americans, terrorism in Syria would end in 30 days, at most.
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Stop trying to deal with the U.S. You cannot.
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It is a country run by Zionism and as long as there is resistance to that infernal movement whose roots are in Eastern Europe, you cannot rely on any of the enemies we have just mentioned. Putin must know this. Why is he constantly playing the legalism card when it has got us nowhere? Let’s end the silliness once and for all. Sell the Syrian properties in D.C., the one on Wyoming N.W. and Kalorama Drive. Put an end to this issue, forever. Don’t ever open up diplomatic relations with the U.S., the U.K. France, Arabia or Turkey. They no longer exist! This is the least you can do to honor the dead soldiers on Al-Tharda”.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E8kQhDmpxk
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The American assault took place around 5:00 pm. on Saturday, September 17, 2016, (Damascus Time). It was uncanny how the ISIS vultures took the cue and coordinated their own attack on Syrian Army checkpoints and outposts on the mountain essentially regaining it for a short time. They didn’t seem to question for one moment what was happening and acted as though they knew the U.S. was providing them with some opportunity. Such an event can hardly pass for a mistake, my readers.
But, an enraged Syrian Army with the help of the PDC and Shu’aytaat Tribal militias, acting under the tenacious and ferocious aerial support of both the SAAF and RuAf, quickly restored army control over all Al-Tharda Mountain inflicting at least 100 casualties on the terrorist filth, destroying 10 vehicles, 6 of which were pickups with 23mm cannons. The air forces are continuing assaults today all around the area of Al-Tharda, Panorama and Al-‘Urfi.
In the process of attacking ISIS here, one Syrian aircraft, a MiG 23, crashed after it encountered technical problems occasioned by ISIS ack-ack fire. The pilot was wounded by a shell from a Doschka and was unable to eject. He died in the aircraft’s explosion on the ground. He has not been identified pending notice to his family. In Pace Requiescat to him and the 62 Syrian Army victims of American mayhem and murder.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/breaking-us-bombs-syrian-army-position.html (Thanks, Kevin Hester)
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JJ, thank you for the reports that you add here regularly (almost the only reason I read the comment section nowadays), It would take too much time for me to go through the news sites that you quote from. With your help I get to know what is going on.
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1863180“A US Air Force surveillance aircraft was reportedly downed on Sunday in the province of Deir ez-Zor, where American jets bombed Syrian forces encircled by Daesh terrorists a day earlier, killing 62 personnel.
Syrian Army brought down a UAV that was spotted hovering over mountains in the Jabal Therdeh area in the east of the province. AMN new agency, specified that shots were fired by the Syrian Arab Army’s 137th Artillery Brigade of the 17th Tank Division, though noting that drone managed to leave the Syrian airspace.”
So, USA checking out damage they have done, or sizing up the situation for another attack?
last chance saloon for usa coalition?
MOSCOW, September 19. /TASS/. The US and the Syrian opposition groups backed by Washington have not met any commitments under the Geneva deal on Syria, senior Russian military official Sergey Rudskoy told reporters on Monday.
“The United States and the groups of the so-called healthy opposition controlled by it have not met any of the commitments undertaken as part of the Geneva agreements. No separation of the moderate opposition and Jabhat al-Nusra has taken place,” said Rudskoy, who heads the main operations department of Russia’s General Staff.
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“Moreover, we see not separation but the merge of units of moderate opposition and Jabhat al-Nusra and their preparation for joint offensive,” Rudskoy said.
Alexander Zorin, a Russian defense ministry’s envoy to the Geneva-based task forces on ceasefire and humanitarian issues, said since September 12 Russia’s experts have handed over to US counterparts 16 requests for providing info.
“We have to state a very low activity of the American colleagues on responding to our well-founded concerns,” he said.
He reminded that the main condition of the ceasefire was separating the moderate opposition from the Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist group, which is outlawed in Russia. “Unfortunately, the American colleagues have not made any real steps in this direction so far,” Zorin said.
During the meetings in Geneva on Sunday and Monday, the US experts tried to convince Russia that the task of separating terrorists from the opposition was very challenging and they were working hard on solving it. “Still, no practical results of this activity have been provided so far,” he added.
Unilateral ceasefire observance is senseless
Rudskoy went on to say that the Russian Defense Ministry believes unilateral observance of ceasefire by Syrian government forces is senseless amidst ongoing shelling by militants.
“Taking into account the fact that militants are not observing the regime of cessation of hostilities, we believe its unilateral observance by Syrian government forces is senseless,” he said.
Rudskoy said US inability to influence the opposition is the reason behind continued shelling of government positions, and continued deaths of Syrian military and civilians.
No air strikes delivered at areas agreed in Geneva
According to Rudskoy, no air strikes have been delivered by either Russian or Syrian warplanes over the week at areas that were agreed under the Geneva deals.
More:
http://tass.com/politics/900792
“So now we know who participated in the premeditated murder of the 80 Syrian servicemen who were defending the besieged city of Deir Ezzor against ISIS.
These cowards came from the US, UK, Australia and Denmark.
“Premeditated” because the day before the slaughter they had their drones scanning the entire battlefield to make sure there would be no “mistakes” on whom they would target.
Meanwhile the US “regrets the loss of life” and “will investigate the mistake”.”
https://www.facebook.com/Russia-Truth-714016298647274/
Btw….UK has a special programme to aid Syrian orphan children..not. .it refused to take up to 5000 as requested unaccompanied children already in Europe….but restated its commitment to accept refugees in camps within Syria…….maybe some are now orphaned where the planes attacked and killed brave SAA military…….
On the subject of this US illegal air-strikes on the SSA…
…Big giant; from myself and others who warned about this: we told you so!
But I’d like to know at what point Russia would accept at least partial responsibility for this. After all, it was them who invited everyone and their dog to “fight ISIS,” including the treacherous US and NATO countries [when what they should have done is the exact opposite of that: demand all meddlers to get lost or else], not to mention welcoming Turkey into the fight most recently. In turn the rabid Turks went after their arch-rivals, the Kurds in Syria rather than ISIS as soon as they’ve got released from their dog-collar leash. And it was freaking obvious that was gonna happen to anyone with more than two working brain-cells, FFS!
But not the Russians, nope. They were taken aback. Puzzled by the move. Mildly annoyed by Turkey’s actions. Issuing lame protestations about it.
Now we have Mr. Ed Kerry [I’m paraphrasing] saying that this is the time for Russia to show their commitment to the peace deal, to help to restrain Assad forces and make them stick to the cease fire agreements.
To me, this is like Minsk 2.0 all over again.
Groundhog Day, anyone?
Nato and USians [because now, we’re starting to learn that the Brits, Australians and Danes were also involved on the air-strikes] bombed the hell out of the legitimate Syrian military, and all over sudden, according to horse-face Kerry, is down to Russia to force the SSA to essentially: not shoot back (!?), not even when they’re under attack, basically.
Meanwhile, enough number of hours went pass after the event and all I can see is Russia shuffling around aimlessly… calling for an emergency UN meeting [which was a colossal waste of time, btw], some declarations coming out from the Russian Foreign Office and not much more.
All I’m seeing is that one side is being blatantly obvious about what their intentions really are and the Russians are eternally ‘pretending’ not to get their message. Which just happens to be the same message since back in the days of the Maidan protests.
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But as hopeless as all of these recent events may seem… at least they’re waking-up people by the truck load.
As ever, I invite you folks to check this link, particularly the comments. It’ll give you a real feeling that people are way past being sick & tired of all of this… the USian lies, USian “mistakes,” and it’s rallying more and more people in the West behind Russia and even Assad (which they were always kind of weary about, since they’re under a constant barrage of propaganda about how awful Assad supposedly is).
As I’ve said before; the worm is turning, but you wouldn’t know about it because the MSM is not covering it. Whoever said the revolution won’t be televised, was spot on.
Russian outrage as US air-strike hits Assad’s forces in Syria killing up to 62 soldiers, wounding more than 100 and threatening ceasefire
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3794052/Putin-Washington-keeping-cease-fire-details-secret.html
-TL2Q
TooLegit2Quit said:
“To me, this is like Minsk 2.0 all over again.”
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Yes, except that in the case of the Donbass, the Russians didn’t intervene in such an obvious way, other than by helping.
In the case of Syria, they went in there with apparent resolve. Then, their reactions to the blatant outrages by the west have been frustratingly meek
@ Anon:
“Yes, except that in the case of the Donbass, the Russians didn’t intervene in such an obvious way, other than by helping.
In the case of Syria, they went in there with apparent resolve. Then, their reactions to the blatant outrages by the west have been frustratingly meek”
Oh! You ain’t wrong there.
I’m well aware that there was more room for ‘plausible deniability’ and/or room for maneuvering for Russia back in the Dombass situation than there is now for them Syria.
Never the less, it seems the results are about to be the same.
All signs point to that from now on, the US [and allies] will blame anything that happens in Syria, on Russia, even when the US themselves kill Syrians armed forces [just as we all saw this weekend]. They’re bound to blame Russia for their own wrong-doings one way or another and probably use that as an excuse for more ‘sanctions’ or dog knows what else is coming down the pike.
It is in THAT sense, that this is already looking exactly like Minsk I & II.
-TL2Q
Daily mail reporting Assad has said ceasefire over but Washington is willing to continue because the JIG agreements are between usa and Russia????????
Crosstalk on RT now new programme re tatters of ceasefire 19.30 Monday
Up to date news onsyrianperspective, seems like Syria has taken the lead to end ceasefire…..Turkey still has been trying to send supplies through to rebels, SAA to close Castillo roads Audi trying to prevent this move.