Serial numbers of weapons allegedly “captured from PKK fighters” come from US weapons shipments? Really?? Does anyone, including Raimondo have any proof that the weapons in question were actually taken from “captured” PKK fighters? If this were so, why hasn’t Turkey launched a huge photo-op of the facts? Why hasn’t there been anything in the Turkish media? Because, believe me, it would have been all over the Turkish media if there were even a shred of truth to the accusation.
I have no doubt that the Ankara regime did get its hands on US weapons because it’s very easy to purchase such weapons on the international weapons market and even on the black market in Iraq. What better place to gather those weapons than in Mûsil? How convenient that Turkey has a consulate in Mûsil. How convenient that the “diplomatic” staff of the Mûsil consulate can walk around Mûsil freely, with no one to hassle them. I mean, even residents of Mûsil can’t do that without becoming targets.
Ignore the fact that Turkish consulates and embassies are fronts for MIT/JITEM activities, tell me how it is that Turkish “diplomats” can pull off such a feat as to walk around in safety in a place like Mûsil? Is it possible that MIT/JITEM “diplomats” are purchasing US weapons from places like that? Or what about offices of US-based Black Hawk Security, Inc., a Turkish mercenary company–like their brothers at Blackwater–that are based in Silopi, Zaxo, Kerkuk and Baghdad? This company is run by a former MIT under-secretary, the TSK general who was in charge of the special team in Kerkuk when it got bagged by US forces for attempting to conduct black operations in Iraq, and a couple of former Turkish “diplomats.” Is it possible that these guys are running black ops and psyops for the regime?
Oh, you betcha.
If Murat Karayilan says (and he has) that weapons can be purchased anywhere by anyone in the region, then Turkish MIT and JITEM can do exactly the same thing–no matter what the American puppets in Ankara say.
The funny thing about Raimondo is that in reading his propaganda one would get the impression that PKK just popped out of thin air as a result of American involvement in Iraq in 2003. Like 99.99% of all Americans, Raimondo has no context. He knows nothing of the US role in the 12 September coup. He knows nothing of US gifts of billions of dollars worth of military hardware, most of it given to Turkey during the Clinton regime. Oh, yes, that hardware was GIFTS because it was all subsidized by the US taxpayer or given outright. Has Raimondo ever mentioned this fact? Has Raimondo ever mentioned who was on the receiving end of these very expensive GIFTS? Has Raimondo ever mentioned all the lovely events that took place in Diyarbakir Military Prison? Has Raimondo ever delved into the crimes committed by America’s puppet regime in Ankara in the wake of the US-backed 12 September coup?
No. You see, that’s why Raimondo has no clue about what he’s writing about. For him, it’s a crime for the Kurdish people to fight back against the regimes that have engaged in gross human rights abuses for decades. Like Americans in general, it’s irrelevant that tens of thousands of Kurds have been murdered since 12 September 1980 by the Ankara regime with the full support of the US. It’s irrelevant for Americans that 3 to 4 million Kurds have been forcibly displaced from their homes or that 5,000 Kurdish villages have been destroyed by America’s puppet regime in Ankara. It was irrelevant to Americans that Saddam destroyed 5,000 Kurdish villages in South Kurdistan–until plans for the invasion of Iraq began to solidify. Then Saddam’s destruction of Kurdish life suddenly became a talking point.
When is the destruction of Kurdish life by America’s regime in Ankara going to become a talking point for propagandists like Raimondo?
Or when will US backing of Turkish Islamists, especially the Turkish Islamist caliph, Fethullah Gulen going to get equal time by propagandists like Raimondo? Erdogan, Gul, all the AKP, are followers of Fethullah Gulen . . . just as Turgut Ozal was. You all remember him, right? Certainly Raimondo must remember him. He was the guy who established Turkish-Islamist synthesis with the American-backed Pashas, a move that led to the creation of Turkish Hezbollah so that America’s puppet regime in Ankara could turn fight PKK on the cheap. Too bad it got so out of hand. Too bad the Ankara regime now has to export these guys to Chechnya.
Since we’re talking about all this filth, let’s bring Seymour Hersh into the conversation. Now here’s a guy who goes to Turkey all the time, has a lot of Turkish sources, and gets all his information from them. So Hersh is basically the American mouthpiece of MIT/JITEM. Think I’m bullshitting? Go dig up anything that Hersh has ever written that’s critical of the TC and give me the link. The guy’s a pimp for the Turkish military. He’s never heard of the filth America’s puppet regime in Ankara has dumped on Kurds and continues to dump. He’s never heard of the filth the mullah’s regime has dumped on Kurds and continues to dump. In these respects, he’s exactly like Raimondo.
Now, neither Hersh nor Raimondo has been to Qendil or around any PKK or PJAK guerrillas, but journalists from the Guardian have, and they have reported no American-made weapons in PJAK camps. This is consistent with the statement of Cemil Bayik last November. Nothing has changed.
It’s ridiculous to think, as Hersh has asserted, that Israelis can teach any Kurd, particularly PKK Kurds, how to fight anyone. Go check Jonathan Randall, who writes that even in the 1960s, Israelis didn’t have anything much to teach Kurds when it came to fighting Baghdad. They tweaked a little, but that was about it. Given the fact that PKK fought against Israelis as part of their initial training with the PLO in Lebanon, and given the fact that the Israelis were involved in Ocalan’s betrayal, and you are unlikely to find any reason for PKK to come out of the mountains to be trained by amateurs. To suggest this idea, as Hersh has, and to propagate it, as Raimondo does, is an exercise in racism–“Golly, guys, those primitives in the mountains couldn’t figure out anything if we didn’t show them!”
Well, come on up into the mountains, Americans, with all your special friends from Turkey and we’ll see who teaches whom. Bring your body bags and cold-weather gear and watch out for those avalanches.
As for Raimondo’s assertion of “separatism”–in his little dig about Greater Kurdistan–let’s all have a reality check:
We would like as a movement to emphasize once again that the right solution is a democratic autonomy within the borders of Turkey. We believe that a solution in the unity of Turkey will be for the benefit of firstly the Kurdish people and all the people of the region.
Like Hersh, Raimondo has absolutely no concern for either truth or the Kurdish people. Like Hersh, he’s the pawn of America’s puppets in Ankara and that’s why he’s furthering his “War Party’s agenda”.
The facts of the matter point to US backing of Turkey.
Never mind the billions of dollars of weapons and arms deals that the US has thrown at Turkey for many years. Did you know that Turkey is the second biggest recipient of US arms after Israel. But there are other factors, like intense Neo Con activty in Turkey over the last year show that the US is covertly and not so covertly supporting Turkey. Paul Wolfowitz the architect of the Iraqi occupation left the World Bank earlier in the year and joined the AEI, a Exxon Mobil sponsored ‘think tank’ and was quoted in a newspaper report saying he wanted to do work ‘with his old friends, Turkey and Indonesia’. Micheal Rubins, another employee of AEI delivered a speech to the foreign affairs committe in congress, suggesting that the US distance itself from the KRG because it supports ‘terrorism’ and put forward suggestions for a much closer relationship with Turkey.
Joseph Ralston turns up in Ankara late August last year as a ‘special envoy’ to ‘counter the PKK’ and only weeks later secures an arms deal worth billions of dollars for his own company Lockheed Martin where he is a serving board member.
Then there was The Hudson Institute affair where Turkish military personel were found to be in a meeting with various advisors discussing various ‘scenarios’ that ‘could’ happen in Turkey and discussing what the various responses should be. Kidnappings, bombings and other things were discussed including a Turkish military invasion. The meeting was leaked to the press.
Oh yes, then there was the leaked report to Robert Novak of a briefing given to congressmen about covert joint action between the US special teams and Turkish special operation teams.
Believe you me, the US is up to its dirty neck with Turkey and preparing operations with Turkey for an invasion into Kurdistan.
As Exxon Mobil has not been able to secure Iraqi oil due to the opposition to US ‘oil laws’ then the Neo Cons are going for Plan B, a US supported Turkish invasion.
But with complete denialability.
The strongest message of opposition to a Turkish invasion from George Bush has been, “I don’t think it is Turkey’s interest to enter Kurdistan” he could of honestly added, “but it is in ours!”
This article justs adds more fog and helps them deny any involvement.
Serial numbers of weapons allegedly “captured from PKK fighters” come from US weapons shipments? Really?? Does anyone, including Raimondo have any proof that the weapons in question were actually taken from “captured” PKK fighters? If this were so, why hasn’t Turkey launched a huge photo-op of the facts? Why hasn’t there been anything in the Turkish media? Because, believe me, it would have been all over the Turkish media if there were even a shred of truth to the accusation.
I have no doubt that the Ankara regime did get its hands on US weapons because it’s very easy to purchase such weapons on the international weapons market and even on the black market in Iraq. What better place to gather those weapons than in Mûsil? How convenient that Turkey has a consulate in Mûsil. How convenient that the “diplomatic” staff of the Mûsil consulate can walk around Mûsil freely, with no one to hassle them. I mean, even residents of Mûsil can’t do that without becoming targets.
Ignore the fact that Turkish consulates and embassies are fronts for MIT/JITEM activities, tell me how it is that Turkish “diplomats” can pull off such a feat as to walk around in safety in a place like Mûsil? Is it possible that MIT/JITEM “diplomats” are purchasing US weapons from places like that? Or what about offices of US-based Black Hawk Security, Inc., a Turkish mercenary company–like their brothers at Blackwater–that are based in Silopi, Zaxo, Kerkuk and Baghdad? This company is run by a former MIT under-secretary, the TSK general who was in charge of the special team in Kerkuk when it got bagged by US forces for attempting to conduct black operations in Iraq, and a couple of former Turkish “diplomats.” Is it possible that these guys are running black ops and psyops for the regime?
Oh, you betcha.
If Murat Karayilan says (and he has) that weapons can be purchased anywhere by anyone in the region, then Turkish MIT and JITEM can do exactly the same thing–no matter what the American puppets in Ankara say.
The funny thing about Raimondo is that in reading his propaganda one would get the impression that PKK just popped out of thin air as a result of American involvement in Iraq in 2003. Like 99.99% of all Americans, Raimondo has no context. He knows nothing of the US role in the 12 September coup. He knows nothing of US gifts of billions of dollars worth of military hardware, most of it given to Turkey during the Clinton regime. Oh, yes, that hardware was GIFTS because it was all subsidized by the US taxpayer or given outright. Has Raimondo ever mentioned this fact? Has Raimondo ever mentioned who was on the receiving end of these very expensive GIFTS? Has Raimondo ever mentioned all the lovely events that took place in Diyarbakir Military Prison? Has Raimondo ever delved into the crimes committed by America’s puppet regime in Ankara in the wake of the US-backed 12 September coup?
And the crimes continue.
No. You see, that’s why Raimondo has no clue about what he’s writing about. For him, it’s a crime for the Kurdish people to fight back against the regimes that have engaged in gross human rights abuses for decades. Like Americans in general, it’s irrelevant that tens of thousands of Kurds have been murdered since 12 September 1980 by the Ankara regime with the full support of the US. It’s irrelevant for Americans that 3 to 4 million Kurds have been forcibly displaced from their homes or that 5,000 Kurdish villages have been destroyed by America’s puppet regime in Ankara. It was irrelevant to Americans that Saddam destroyed 5,000 Kurdish villages in South Kurdistan–until plans for the invasion of Iraq began to solidify. Then Saddam’s destruction of Kurdish life suddenly became a talking point.
When is the destruction of Kurdish life by America’s regime in Ankara going to become a talking point for propagandists like Raimondo?
Or when will US backing of Turkish Islamists, especially the Turkish Islamist caliph, Fethullah Gulen going to get equal time by propagandists like Raimondo? Erdogan, Gul, all the AKP, are followers of Fethullah Gulen . . . just as Turgut Ozal was. You all remember him, right? Certainly Raimondo must remember him. He was the guy who established Turkish-Islamist synthesis with the American-backed Pashas, a move that led to the creation of Turkish Hezbollah so that America’s puppet regime in Ankara could turn fight PKK on the cheap. Too bad it got so out of hand. Too bad the Ankara regime now has to export these guys to Chechnya.
Since we’re talking about all this filth, let’s bring Seymour Hersh into the conversation. Now here’s a guy who goes to Turkey all the time, has a lot of Turkish sources, and gets all his information from them. So Hersh is basically the American mouthpiece of MIT/JITEM. Think I’m bullshitting? Go dig up anything that Hersh has ever written that’s critical of the TC and give me the link. The guy’s a pimp for the Turkish military. He’s never heard of the filth America’s puppet regime in Ankara has dumped on Kurds and continues to dump. He’s never heard of the filth the mullah’s regime has dumped on Kurds and continues to dump. In these respects, he’s exactly like Raimondo.
Now, neither Hersh nor Raimondo has been to Qendil or around any PKK or PJAK guerrillas, but journalists from the Guardian have, and they have reported no American-made weapons in PJAK camps. This is consistent with the statement of Cemil Bayik last November. Nothing has changed.
It’s ridiculous to think, as Hersh has asserted, that Israelis can teach any Kurd, particularly PKK Kurds, how to fight anyone. Go check Jonathan Randall, who writes that even in the 1960s, Israelis didn’t have anything much to teach Kurds when it came to fighting Baghdad. They tweaked a little, but that was about it. Given the fact that PKK fought against Israelis as part of their initial training with the PLO in Lebanon, and given the fact that the Israelis were involved in Ocalan’s betrayal, and you are unlikely to find any reason for PKK to come out of the mountains to be trained by amateurs. To suggest this idea, as Hersh has, and to propagate it, as Raimondo does, is an exercise in racism–“Golly, guys, those primitives in the mountains couldn’t figure out anything if we didn’t show them!”
Well, come on up into the mountains, Americans, with all your special friends from Turkey and we’ll see who teaches whom. Bring your body bags and cold-weather gear and watch out for those avalanches.
As for Raimondo’s assertion of “separatism”–in his little dig about Greater Kurdistan–let’s all have a reality check:
We would like as a movement to emphasize once again that the right solution is a democratic autonomy within the borders of Turkey. We believe that a solution in the unity of Turkey will be for the benefit of firstly the Kurdish people and all the people of the region.
Like Hersh, Raimondo has absolutely no concern for either truth or the Kurdish people. Like Hersh, he’s the pawn of America’s puppets in Ankara and that’s why he’s furthering his “War Party’s agenda”.
Just another piece of uninformed speculation.
The facts of the matter point to US backing of Turkey.
Never mind the billions of dollars of weapons and arms deals that the US has thrown at Turkey for many years. Did you know that Turkey is the second biggest recipient of US arms after Israel. But there are other factors, like intense Neo Con activty in Turkey over the last year show that the US is covertly and not so covertly supporting Turkey. Paul Wolfowitz the architect of the Iraqi occupation left the World Bank earlier in the year and joined the AEI, a Exxon Mobil sponsored ‘think tank’ and was quoted in a newspaper report saying he wanted to do work ‘with his old friends, Turkey and Indonesia’. Micheal Rubins, another employee of AEI delivered a speech to the foreign affairs committe in congress, suggesting that the US distance itself from the KRG because it supports ‘terrorism’ and put forward suggestions for a much closer relationship with Turkey.
Joseph Ralston turns up in Ankara late August last year as a ‘special envoy’ to ‘counter the PKK’ and only weeks later secures an arms deal worth billions of dollars for his own company Lockheed Martin where he is a serving board member.
Then there was The Hudson Institute affair where Turkish military personel were found to be in a meeting with various advisors discussing various ‘scenarios’ that ‘could’ happen in Turkey and discussing what the various responses should be. Kidnappings, bombings and other things were discussed including a Turkish military invasion. The meeting was leaked to the press.
Oh yes, then there was the leaked report to Robert Novak of a briefing given to congressmen about covert joint action between the US special teams and Turkish special operation teams.
Believe you me, the US is up to its dirty neck with Turkey and preparing operations with Turkey for an invasion into Kurdistan.
As Exxon Mobil has not been able to secure Iraqi oil due to the opposition to US ‘oil laws’ then the Neo Cons are going for Plan B, a US supported Turkish invasion.
But with complete denialability.
The strongest message of opposition to a Turkish invasion from George Bush has been,
“I don’t think it is Turkey’s interest to enter Kurdistan” he could of honestly added, “but it is in ours!”
This article justs adds more fog and helps them deny any involvement.