Second World War 80th anniversary events in Poland
These events were supposed to commemorate 80 years since the outbreak of World War II, a tragic chapter not only in 20th century history but in the history of all mankind. This date has been marked for many years, bringing together representatives from various countries as an event that truly deserves global attention. But frankly, it is appalling to see what this year’s event has turned into. It is a quintessential example of rewriting history. Except this time it all went too far and became full-blown global bigotry.
Warsaw reduced what I wish I could call memorial events to a spectacle that was completely subjected to a demonstration of so-called unification of a civilised, free and democratic world against evil – first, Hitlerism, then Communism and, finally, modern imperialism. All this evil is allegedly represented by Russia. It is an attempt to rehash history and invent an “axis of truth.” Naturally, this whole concept is based on NATO’s cynical, flagrant and hardline approach. This is not even propaganda or misinformation. It is a crime against our common history.
The concept of the event was formulated by Polish President Andrzej Duda, who said in his statement that, in political terms, World War II only ended in 1989 along with the weakening of the Soviet Union, which withdrew from the historical scene. What is this? Where did he read this? Who suggested this? Where is this group of real history experts – I would like to see them? I don’t mean those who pretend to be experts or those who wrote a couple of posts on social networks but those who have written serious research papers and are recognised by the academic community. Where are the historians who signed off on this?
He was not the only one with these insinuations – there was a chorus with these dreadful, cynical and very dangerous lies.
I would remind all those who had to listen to this and then, probably, read this that the International Military Tribunal established at the USSR’s initiative by the London Agreement between the governments of the USSR, the United States, Great Britain and France on August 8, 1945 accurately defined the timeline for one of the bloodiest conflicts in modern history and named the people responsible for it. These included all the top-ranking officials of the Third Reich and the Axis powers and all those whom we called and continue to call collaborators or accomplices. Any interpretations or pseudoscientific concepts, including statements about the responsibility [for unleashing the war] which has yet to be reviewed, and the equal responsibility of two totalitarian regimes that were at war, as well as the two periods of the occupation of Eastern Europe – all those statements made in Warsaw have no legal or historical foundation whatsoever. We will firmly oppose all attempts to revise the outcome of World War II or rewrite it, in particular, attempts to forget its final documents or misrepresent them, including by bringing to trial, in addition to Nazi criminals, anyone else who was not there at the time [of the tribunals]. This is a crime against world history and our common history – a history that came at a heavy cost of millions of people losing their lives. This was not the end of obscurantism.
Many have shown their value in Warsaw. Polish Defence Minister Mariusz Blaszczak was one of these. He blamed Moscow for not receiving war reparations from Germany. This is not only beyond the boundary of decency but humaneness as well. I would like to remind that the 1953 Declaration stating Poland’s refusal to receive reparations was approved by the legitimate Polish government, which was recognised by the international community and represented this country in the UN. Or do they think differently in Warsaw today? If Warsaw has changed its mind and thinks differently, then it must first sort things out as far as its own history is concerned. Before making statements like these, one should think about, among other things, the legal implications. I will also remind you that due to a number of diplomatic efforts by the Soviet government, 25 percent of Germany’s territory in 1937 borders was transferred to Poland after the war ended: these are areas to the east of the Oder-Neisse line and other areas. We will release more materials about the substantial financial aid and logistical and technical assistance provided by the Soviet Union to Poland and about the rebuilding of the country.
We will never get tired of returning to this subject; we will never get tired of refuting fake stories, innuendoes and misinformation because this subject is eternal and ever-lasting. The multiethnic Soviet people, as we always emphasise, the allies of the USSR in the anti-Hitler coalition and participants in the guerilla and resistance movements have displayed unparalleled courage in order to allow subsequent generations to live, work and create in a world free from the man-hating ideology of Hitlerism.
The victory over Hitler’s National Socialism has a tremendous uniting message. We will never get tired of repeating that, despite ideological differences, the nations that fought and rose against the crimes of Hitlerism represented different cultures, traditions and religions, including the views on their future in terms of culture, economics and politics, but they united their efforts. They were able to overcome their differences to prevent a catastrophe, which could really encompass all of humankind. That uniting message was addressed to all countries. One of the main objectives of the countries and governments that managed to hold on and defeat Nazism and Hitlerism was to unite efforts in order to prevent the repetition of similar mistakes in the future. I want to emphasize again that we did this even then, during the Cold War, notwithstanding our differences in political and economic views. Unlike our Western partners, we do appreciate the contribution of all countries and peoples in the struggle against Nazism, and we do not attempt to follow a pattern of confrontation by dividing the victory into our victory and their victory. Only combined efforts will allow us to prevent the horrors of war from recurring. This uniting drive is being neutralised by the efforts of the leadership of some Western countries, with Poland playing a leading part, which everybody can see now. However, it is not the Polish people, but certain politicians who are pursuing their own interests.
I would like to remind you that Warsaw consistently follows a course of historical distortion: they demolish monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators and desecrate their graves and memory. Regretfully, some of our former allies in the anti-Hitler coalition have decided to show solidarity with Poland and support this trend: fashion is fashion.
For example, US Vice President Michael Pence, in his September 1 remarks, mentioned dual invasion of Poland in 1939, two occupations of that country, and thanked European nations for their contribution as freedom-fighters without saying a word about the Soviet people. According to that high-ranking US representative, 16 million American soldiers, the British and patriots of resistance movement only had the merit of liberating Europe from Hitlerism. We remember who liberated Poland and how, and what price was paid for this.
Such actions and statements by Western leaders only testify to their own political impotence and historical short-sightedness. With their politicised judgements, which are far from historical truth, they betray the memory of all the fallen in that war, including their own compatriots.
Let’s remember what they forgot to say in Warsaw: what preceded the beginning of World War II?
At that time, right-wing nationalist forces came to power in a number of Central and Eastern European countries. The borders fixed by the Versailles Treaty did not suit them. Take Poland, for example. Preparing to take part in the partition of Czechoslovakia and hoping for German support, Poland concluded a non-aggression pact with Germany in 1934, which actually implied allied relations with the Nazis. We can also recall 1938 when Britain and France agreed with the Munich collusion in an effort to send the Wehrmacht war machine to the east.
I think it is also worth remembering the gist of a “liberal world order” to which the historical truth is being sacrificed now in Warsaw. The “liberal world order” was a continuation of a colonial or neocolonial regime for most developing nations. It is strange that this was not expressed in Warsaw in 2019 when a free world and values are mentioned. This regime meant “the right of the strongest” and the law of the jungle for a number of continents, not just countries. Let’s remember napalm in Vietnam and depleted uranium in Yugoslavia. Maybe some people have forgotten about Abu Ghraib and the methods that the “liberal world order” that is in reality a regime used in the Middle East and North Africa since the start of the 2000s. Maybe we should also recall how representatives of this “liberal world order” dealt with those who described these methods like Julian Assange. Many Asian, Latin American and African countries were denied an opportunity to develop properly in the 20th century due to this “liberal world order.” Their governments were simply shuffled to please those that represented states that are now called liberal and democratic. The “liberal world order” is to blame for countless expedition wars with millions of victims, distorted economies and poor populations deprived of rights in entire regions of the world. This is the truth. So, why didn’t you talk about this in Warsaw?
Now let’s get to the main point. They should have spoken about this in Warsaw since they so willfully prolong the world wars, starting and ending them whenever they want. Let’s talk about international terrorism that the world community does not know how to deal with. It was born and grew from the criminal experiments of the “liberal world order” when the West supported all kinds of anti-government, extremist groups to enable them to uphold the values of the “liberal world order” with arms in hand on the territory under their control. This applies, for instance, to the mujahidin in Afghanistan who eventually became al-Qaeda. Wasn’t it interesting to discuss this in Warsaw since everyone has departed so far from the main theme of the event?
Let’s be honest and straight. During the entire postwar period the USSR and its allies kept the world from a global disaster and complete barbarity, and curbed the expansion that the leaders of the “liberal world order” tried so hard to carry out. Take the process of decolonisation. What did the “liberal world order” have to do with this process? Name the countries and nations that had the opportunity to stop being colonies based on free will, the will of the representatives of Western countries. I am referring to the countries that announced fantastic achievements in the freedom of the “liberal world order.” Does someone know? Can someone recall?
It was the Soviet Union that provided the impetus for decolonisation in Asia, Africa and Latin America and maintained regional security in Europe. At the same time, it was restoring, on its own, the economic infrastructure of the war-ravaged countries. But some people do not want to remember this. This is not interesting because it completely destroys the myth of the “liberal world order” and the benefits it brought to humanity. It is worth recalling them and we will continue to do this. In the past, we felt embarrassed about doing this, but after the mayhem in Warsaw we have no choice.
We urge our Western partners to stop distorting historical facts and renounce attempts to undermine the existing system of international law. They should be guided in their assessments by the international law that unequivocally fixed the results of World War II. It is in our common interests to depoliticise as much as possible any discussions of our recent historical past and channel them into a professional dialogue between academic historians.
I think that the whole truth of WW2 are supressed. As far as I know Great Britain (UK) started WW2 and has concealed their grand schemes for historians (who are mostly state actors anyway). Some key elements that have been overlooked mostly are that Great Britain closed Palestine for jewish immigration in 1938. (White Paper 1938). Hitler’s policy was deportation to Palestine. The next step in creating a war to set the plot in motion was to seemingly accept Germanys territorial claims to Sudetenland in Checkoslovakia (France and Great Britain). Poland became the british empire’s next plot engaging in a defense act with Poland (France and Great Britain). The fuse was lit and ready for the polish mistreatment of german nationals in Danzig. This was a serious issue since Hitler could not accept these provocations and they knew it. They have certainly handed him the key to Checkoslovakia.
Poland became the british empire’s next plot engaging in a defense act with Poland (France and Great Britain).
The Danzig crisis.
Some historians now have claimed that german population in large numbers were arrested in Danzig and marched out forcibly for resettlements into other parts of Poland. (death marches like those of jews later on in the war).
And the british empire knew that Hitler would not do anything else than an invasion of Poland. They had blocked Germany’s policies at every angle. They could have settled this peacefully with Germany but chose otherwise. And immediately Great Britain declared a total war against Germany on a world scale. They had created WW1 and they created WW2. Actually from the beginning in both cases, the latter by financing Hitler’s now as leader of NSDAP and Mussolini personally from bankers in the US (popular expressed as Wall street), so that they came to power in the first place . Hitlers was a government employee to came as a spy to NSDAP, Mussolini was a failed politician, both had or came to totalitarian parties that should not have been brought into power.
So we have to be careful with understanding the empire’s media today. The war may be on us the people next. A war is always on us.
Henry Ford and friends had a great role in the early financing of Hitler partly because Hitler promised to march on Moscow and finish off the communists. The allies did not invade Europe until after Hitler was decicively defeated at Stalingrad, after which the race was on to see who could grab the most of Europe post war.
Wall Street funded Germany as a way of sinking them into debt like the modern IMF or WorldBank, and this inadvertably created the rise of NSDAP and Adolf Hitler to power. And I think they did this knowingly, there is no way the could not know what happened in Germany.
The Nazi Rise to Power
I think that many companies had dealings with nazi Germany, but Prescott Bush, and The Bush family are cited often for working closely with the nazis and financing them, even ensuring their transfer into USA after the war.
How Bush’s grandfather helped Hitler’s rise to power – The Guardian
This has been a PR disaster for Poland.
1. They ended up marking 80th anniversary of the start of WWII with the LOSERS of WWII & and their Nazi allies i.e. Germany, Ukraine & Croatia.
2. They alienated not just the Russians, but also the Kazakhs and other central Asian countries who fought in the Red Army, and who were not invited.
3. They received cancellations from Armenia and Belarus, who were invited by did not attend, and explicitly stated that the reason was out of solidarity with Russia et al. https://caucasuswatch.de/news/1977.html4.
4. They ticked off Israel as there was no mention of the Jews. https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/.premium-honoring-polish-war-victims-they-forgot-the-jews-1.7775514
To top it all of:
5.They received a message from Trump congratulating them on their Nazi invasion! Oh dear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JwChi3E1Wk
The good news is: they can only do better for the next anniversary.
The nazis killed millions of poles and now poles celebrate nazis as heros. Face it, poles are the texans/floridaians of europe. :-D
It is unclear to me if the text is by Zacharova or by Saker; be it as it may, lots of the article is true. One assertion “let´s be honest and straight” sounds wonderful; however I object to the dishonest statement, quote:
“I would like to remind that the 1953 Declaration stating Poland’s refusal to receive reparations was approved by the legitimate Polish government,” that is totally misleading and false to say it was a “legitimate Polish government” – legitimate it was from the strict and cynical international world order, in which Stalin´s terror government was a legitimate representation of the great people of Russia. Poland´s government was installed by Stalin – that is the truth in my view and knowledge of history.
Governments are declared “legitimate” if accepted as such by the world community of nations. There are many Western states,at that time,as well as today I wouldn’t accept as legitimate.But my opinion,nor your opinion counts in that.The US rigged the Italian elections in 1948 that put a pro-US regime in power.And yet that regime was accepted as legitimate. The US controlled in 1953, every “legitimate” government in Latin American just as thoroughly as the USSR controlled Eastern Europe at that time.In fact in some cases much more thoroughly.And yet again,those were considered legitimate.
so, uncle Bob, you did not make it sound any better; the fact remains that the Polish government was not sovereign and its acceptance of Moscow´s orders was not legitimate from the point of view Polish nation´s national interest, just as the Italians you cite. My point is that Saker´s argument is specious at best and knowingly misleading at worst.
There are almost no nations in the World that are fully “sovereign” .Not today,nor in the past.When you are dependent on strong allies for your survival,you are not fully sovereign.As to your theory about Poland,you forget that millions of Poles supported the “Peoples Poland” in that period.An inconvenient fact forgotten about today.Who was the majority? I don’t know.But like in most societies,a minority through apathy,use of power, and propaganda ,always can drag a majority behind them.Only when another minority can use those methods to change peoples thinking.Can they then drag the majority to their side.You say that “Peoples Poland” didn’t serve Polish interests.But without that government Poland would be a third smaller than she is now.It doesn’t matter which group of Poles had come to power after the war.The eastern non-Polish majority regions to the east of the Curzon Line were loss to Poland.And while most or all of Upper Silesia,Danzig,and much of East Prussia would probably have gone to Poland.The regions of Western Pomerania,Lower Silesia,and most of East Pomerania would have stayed with Germany.It was because Poland was under Communist rule that Stalin agreed to let Poland annex those areas.That government also made a country that before the war had a large illiterate population to virtually total literacy over a short period.I’d say they certainly served Poland’s interest far more than the Russophobic government today does.
your argumentation and defense of the polish puppet government, installed by Stalin, sounds an awful lot like the mantra of polish jewish communists who came with the Soviets to oversee Poland in those years (Bierut who had Jewish wife, Zambrowski, Romkowski, Berman, Fejgin, and many more). I will not argue that Poland before WW2 was not a homogenous nation, it had large minorities, which were illiterate, or literate in Jidish only – tongue in cheek – . Also, what evidence is there that “without this government Poland would be a third smaller”? If you would consider that the arrangements in Teheran and later in Yalta assured Stalin´s vision of post war Europe, and the moving of polish borders westwards. These apparatchiks of Stalin had nothing to do with the size of Poland after the war – they received the product of Stalin´s brain.
I don’t know why you want to bring Jews into the question.The facts are that only around 69% of pre-war Poland was Polish by the Polish government stats.But if you look closer at those stats,you find that within that group were counted “Poles” of Orthodox,Greek Catholic,and Jewish faiths.Since the first two groups are obviously Polonized Rus,and the last are Polonized Jews.When you remove those people,you come to around 65% Polish.The Polish authorities (non-Communist) in London during the war claimed Upper Silesia,East Prussia,and Danzig,from Germany for post-war borders.And even that wasn’t fully agreed to by the Western allies until late in the war.It was the Polish communists that pressed Stalin to let them have the Oder–Neisse line as Poland’s German border.He agreed to that as a gesture to Poland.Had the communists not pushed for it,and Stalin not agreed,Poland would be around a third smaller.From the Soviet position,whether that territory was included in Poland,or in East Germany (DDR) made little difference.It would still be allied to the USSR.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Poland1937linguistic.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kresy#/media/File:Curzon_line_en.svg
Pre-war Poland had,along with every other Eastern European state,except for Czechoslovakia, an authoritarian government,with fascistic tendencies.Probably the largest party in Poland was the National Democratic party (they were considered by most as a neo-fascist party).Though they were kept from power by the military dictatorship.Underground groups with influence among the people were Socialist and Communist factions.Another important party was the Peasants Party.That tried to push the interests of the huge Polish rural population.The war upended that Poland and put in place a mostly Communist and Socialist government.
“Great strides were made, however, in the areas of employment (which became nearly full), universal public education (which nearly eradicated adult illiteracy), health care and recreational amenities. Many historic sites, including the central districts of Warsaw and Gdańsk, both devastated during the war, were rebuilt at great cost”
“The communist industrialization program led to increased urbanization and educational and career opportunities for the intended beneficiaries of the social transformation, along the lines of the peasants-workers-working intelligentsia paradigm. The most significant improvement was accomplished in the lives of Polish peasants, many of whom were able to leave their impoverished and overcrowded village communities for better conditions in urban centers. Those who stayed behind took advantage of the implementation of the 1944 land reform decree of the Polish Committee of National Liberation, which terminated the antiquated but widespread parafeudal socioeconomic relations in Poland. The Stalinist attempts at establishing collective farms generally failed. Due to urbanization, the national percentage of the rural population decreased in communist Poland by about 50%. A majority of Poland’s residents of cities and towns still live in apartment blocks built during the communist era, in part to accommodate migrants from rural areas”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland
one sees the intention and one is distraught – man sieht die Absicht und man ist verstimmt – german saying. The industrialization which you praise – was ill concieved, such as the stupid project of Nowa Huta… The moving of the polish borders westward was Stalin´s idea, the polish communists did not have to teach Stalin about geopolitics! he was a master in that field and could run circles around all the Western leaders and polish communists. Removed. The jewish question played a huge role in post war Poland and that is why I alluded to it. The Wikipedia articles you link to, have been carefully edited and are in some areas – not only concerning Poland – not the gospel truth, this is by now well known. You only give the english version of Wiki as sources, why not the polish versions? I think I will stop discussing because I do not see it anymore as “honest and straight” discussion.
No personal comments please – they have been removed. Mod.
The industrialization program I mentioned led directly to the Polish population becoming a modern educated population.And taking a nation that was mostly a rural agrarian nation,to a modern city based majority.I also said that the Western supported London based Polish authorities pressed from the start of the war to move the Polish border west and annex German territory.That is so well documented that it isn’t even open for discussion anymore.As to the Jewish question in Poland,that ceased to exist by the end of the 1950’s.By then most of the communist officials were ethnic Poles.And Poland had quite a bit of autonomy from the USSR from that time forward.Certainly as much or more than today’s Poland has from orders from the USA.As to Wikipedia,you are right there.But that is only the case when something is “favorable” to Russia.Then the article is changed to smear Russia.But in the cases I posted,the articles aren’t favorable to the People’s Poland.Only a few parts are objective.and those were ones I posted.I also agree that Stalin was intelligent.And when he saw that moving Poland westward,supported his allies inside Poland.He was smart enough to agree with it.I think you are right to end this discussion.It serves no purpose,have a nice life.
It was the USA, Soviet Union, and UK during the 1945 Potsdam conference who decided on war reparations and borders in Europe and yes, the Soviet Union negotiated the deal on behalf of the satellite states which included Poland.
However I do not believe that the Polish response, blaming Russia, is the correct one. I.e. Russia no longer has anything to do with this. Instead, the Polish government should state that the 1945 is null and void and that they wish to take this up with the EU, UN, and ICJ.
Greece is doing this by the way, as they are unhappy with their old bilateral accord for war reparations with Germany. The ICJ /EU/ UN will look at the territories Poland has received, monetary compensation versus all the damage and then when all is added up and subtracted they will have a verdict.