Dear friends,
What I want to share with you today is most definitely not a comprehensive analysis of the events which took place recently in Germany, but rather a few unconnected thoughts and memories we came to my mind when I heard about what had happened. So here we go.
First, the figures are staggering: according to Russian sources there have been over 700 hundred assaults in Cologne, 40% of which were sexual (the rest begin “regular” assaults, robberies, battery, etc.). There is mounting evidence that this was a coordinated attack organized through the social media.
There is a big difference between excusing and explaining. I don’t intend to excuse anything, but I do want to contribute at least a possible and partial explanation to what happened. I have traveled a lot in my life, including to countries with strong social and moral traditions (I think of Indonesia, Thailand, the Maghreb, Greece, Turkey, Palestine, etc.) and in all those places I have seen European women acting with total and utter disrespect for the local people and traditions: going topless on beaches, climbing on top of funeral pyres to take photos of themselves in bikinis, getting drunk and having sex with local man, etc. This might sound very offensive to some, but I am sorry to inform you that European (White) women are seen like tramps/whores/sluts in most of the world. That is simply a fact.
The fact that EVERY western modern movie HAS to have at the very least one sex scene just reinforces this image. As does the huge production of the western porn industry. Even following the events in Cologne, this “lady” decided that going around naked was a proper reply.
I am sorry to break this to those who though otherwise, but if you have no respect for yourself you will not get respect from others.
Now let’s talk about Islam.
Many years ago, while in college, I used to work in the summers as a professional driver in Switzerland during big UN conferences. One day I got a Saudi general, his wife and 3 kids as clients. I was very apprehensive as I knew that Saudis had a terrible reputation amongst drivers: they would drink, demand that drivers procure them prostitutes (from Milan), be rude and generally repugnant. I was ready to send this one to hell, but to my surprise “my” Saudi turned out to be a very gentle and kind man, a very pious Muslim who would pray and glorify God many times every day, a loving father and husband. First, he was a little distant, but as soon as he learned that I was not a “crusader” but an Orthodox Christian, he invited me to his table and introduced me to this wife and kids. We had a great time together and during 5 wonderful days, I toured them all over Switzerland and had many hours of very interesting conversations. We parted as friends.
His wife turned out to be a very interesting woman too. She had an Masters in English from, I think, UCLA, and she was a very articulate and educated woman. I used this great opportunity to ask her about what her opinion was about the status of women in Saudi Arabia. As we were talking we were taking a stroll, with her husband and kids, though a park near the Lake of Geneva. As we were walking we saw a couple laying in the grass: the girl was on her back, her legs spread, and the guy as on top of her and they were passionately kissing. The Saudi lady look at this pair with complete disgust and told me “whatever else we do wrong in my country, at least we don’t treat women like that“. I could only agree with her.
Nowadays, both in Europe and in the USA, the fashion for boys seems to be coming out of prisons and jails: hence the falling down pants (in jail they take away your belts, so your pants sag down). For girls, apparently, prostitutes are the fashion model to emulate. Now, I know, freedom and all that and, frankly, I personally don’t care and it does not bother me (my wife and daughter, obviously, don’t dress like that, in fact they don’t even wear pants). But, again, you know the expression: “If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck“, right?
What if it looks like a prostitute, dresses like a prostitute and acts like a prostitute?
Again, if you have no respect for yourself you will not get respect from others. Just as an illustration, not a proof of anything, take a look at this video and come to your own conclusions:
Now, before I get the usual chorus of outraged protests from feminists and secularists, let me immediately say that none of what I wrote above in any way excuses what happened in Germany. Nor am I blaming all western women for anything. But what I am saying is that the kind of behavior which is considered “normal” in the West makes it easy for those who organized the events in Germany to convince poorly educated and generally uncivilized refugees (as opposed to better educated and civilized ones, of course) that women (and men!) in the West deserve no respect.
Another myth which has to be broken is the naive notion that refugees are grateful for the countries which give them asylum. This is plainly not so. For many years I worked as an interpreter for the Swiss Federal authorities and I have participated in numerous interviews of refugees and I can attest that the vast majority absolutely despise the country they are asking to grant them asylum. There are several reasons for that. First, the vast majority of refugees are not political refugees, but economic ones. What they want is a share of the pie, of what they imagine to be the wealthy lifestyle of the West. Second, many refugees are from the underclass and even criminal word from the countries they left: usually petty thugs who fled their country’s jails. Third, since they very much feel the hostility and condescension of the local people, the asylum seekers return it in kind. Fourth, these “refugees” have no respect (or fear) at all from the local cops whom they consider as ridiculous clowns, especially when compared to the kind of police they would be dealing with in their own country. As for the local jails, they are often more comfortable than the homes they have left behind. Last but not least, refugees are mostly miserable, lonely, alienated and depressed and they have a lot of a lot of pent up anger and frustration. All this is a toxic mix which can result in all sorts of criminal behavior.
By the way, the security services in the West have known all that for years. For example, in Switzerland I participated in many command-staff exercises inspired by the 1992 Rodney King riots in Los Angeles except that the scenario we worked on was mass rioting of refugees coming from the south. Our exercises assumed that thousands of refugees would begin rioting in several cities at the same time overwhelming the local police forces and requiring the mobilization of military forces to restore order and protect the population and to close down the normally highly permeable national borders. I am sure that such scenarios were also looked at, if not actually rehearsed, by most European countries. And, if given the freedom to intervene, I am quite sure that the German cops could have gotten the situation under control. I even suspect that the German security services must have seen clear indicators and warnings of what was about to happen. The problem is that it is the political authorities which, yet again, proved to be totally sold out to ideological priorities and totally indifferent to the suffering of their own people.
All this tells me one thing: Europe is completely morally and intellectually bankrupt. We often hear of a so-called “European civilization” or “European values”, but this is total nonsense. If modern Europe did have some real civilizational values it would have been able to deal with this refugees crisis. Heck, I would argue that if Europe even had any real values this entire crisis would not have happened to begin with, simply because the EU would not have been such a willing accomplice to grand US scheme to destabilize all of the Maghreb and Mashriq. Just like a health body can deal with trauma and infection which would be devastating to a body infected with HIV, so can a healthy society deal with much bigger problems then the ones currently facing Europe, but that requires an intellectual, moral and and spiritual “immune system” – something which Europe today completely lacks.
What Europe desperately needs now is regime change. And I don’t mean “regime” in a bad sense at all, I mean that in the sense of “system” change. Just like the USA, by the way. Both in the USA and Europe, the political system is rotten to the core, and it makes no sense to put a different, potentially marginally better person, in charge of a terminally bad system, or regime. Northern Europeans used to look down on their southern neighbors, but now they too are directly affected by the chaos resulting from a completely dysfunctional political system: from Greece to Norway – chaos is everywhere.
As for the immigration problem, I think that it is a done deal and nothing will stop it. “White” Europe is gone, history. Those political parties who promise to stop or reverse that flow are simply lying to their electorate. Yes, sure, some politician could, once in power, close the “front door” by more or less “plugging” the main “holes” which allow immigrants to come in, but they will simply continue to come in through the back door (I could write an entire article just about that). You can compare this situation to the pathetic “war on drugs” which is also another utterly futile attempt to deal with an “osmotic pressure” way too big to be tackled by any border or laws. In both cases, the social and economic pressure is so huge that nothing will be able to stop it (and if you believe in capitalist economics, then the explanation is even simpler: it is simply an issue of supply and demand: since the price of entry will always be lower than the demand, the supply will always provide the goods).
There is a certain karmic elegance, I suppose, in Europe being finally conquered by those which it subjected to its imperialist and colonialist policies (and wait until the Ukrainians begin coming in really big numbers!). But that is only so in the abstract. In reality, innocent people on both sides are suffering because of events unleashed by their common enemy – the AngloZionist plutocracy which runs the Empire. As long as this crucial fact remains unspeakable and, therefore, unspoken, the crisis will continue and the victims will continue to attack each other instead of turning against their common enemy. This is why no matter how hard it will be to defend this position, I will always personally be a proponent of an alliance between Europeans and immigrants against those who seek to destroy the European continent, the Maghreb and the Mashriq. The Wahabi crazies in Syria, the immigrant thugs in Cologne, the Kosovar Mafia, the neo-Nazis in Germany (and the Ukraine), the Turkish “Grey Wolves” – they are all tools in the hands of the same master who simply seeks to divide and rule. The good news is that all these forces are always composed of a minority of thugs and that always leaves at least the possibility of uniting the decent and honest people in defense of their common interests.
The Saker
Germany and russia have no obligations to take so much immigrants in last twenty years but england , usa and gulf cpuntries have the debt to take those refugees because the refugess are the result of destabilisation by england( read dumas) with sypport from usa and with funding from enland controlled saudi arabia and qatar.
Hence germany should pass on those refugess to england who must be made to bear the cost of her evil doings.
Correct.
Colonial countries (call them EX) have no choice. Most “invaders” are from their own colonies (EX), which now enjoy pseudo-freedom (called now commonwealth) and have the RIGHT to enter those countries without visas or hassle.
SO, to recall, all of the middle east was first under the Otoman (today’s Turkey) rule, which collapsed in the late XIX century. Those territories (lands, not countries) were happily transferred to UK and French colonialism. Hence were are back to the first sentence.
Germany had minor colonial role, but it had.
So, it’s time to pay the piper.
Dear The Saker,
Just wanted to say that I get exactly what you are saying.
Isn’t it amazing just how people twist and misinterpret what you have said. Even nit picking one comment here or there and making a big deal out of it.
They have missed the point. Sadly that is the majority of people who when they have a mirror put up in front of them, they don’t want to see the truth even if it is there right in front of their faces.
The crucial part is here:
“This is why no matter how hard it will be to defend this position, I will always personally be a proponent of an alliance between Europeans and immigrants against those who seek to destroy the European continent, the Maghreb and the Mashriq. The Wahabi crazies in Syria, the immigrant thugs in Cologne, the Kosovar Mafia, the neo-Nazis in Germany (and the Ukraine), the Turkish “Grey Wolves” – they are all tools in the hands of the same master who simply seeks to divide and rule. The good news is that all these forces are always composed of a minority of thugs and that always leaves at least the possibility of uniting the decent and honest people in defense of their common interests.”
Funny how many of the detractors missed this most important point and that is why the EU is royally screwed……..and the same masters know it!
I also see a lot of trolling and new Anons/commenters who obviously are just here to try and attack the site, the Saker and mods — you must have hit a raw nerve……
Xenophiles Are More Dangerous than Xenophobes
German chancellor Angela Merkel, Cologne mayor Henriette Reker, and other Christian Democrats, Social Democrats, Free Democrats, Greens, and Left Party members in Germany find themselves about ready to be lynched by a majority of the German people. German political leaders threw open the borders of Germany to swarms of mostly Muslim migrants from the Middle East and North Africa.
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People like Jaeger, Merkel, and Reker are classic xenophiles, people who have an odd attraction to foreign peoples, manners, or cultures even when those people, manners, and cultures are detrimental to their own cultures and peoples.
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French National Front leader, Marine Le Pen, UKIP leader Nigel Farage, Sweden Democrats leader Kent Ekeroth, Italian Northern League leader Matteo Salvini, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and others are disparaged by the corporate media and the Soros NGO community as «Little Trumps,» a reference to Republican Party presidential candidate Donald Trump.
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http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/01/15/xenophiles-are-more-dangerous-than-xenophobes.html
One factor which shouldn’t be overlooked: the gender ratio. Among all the migrants, there are way way more single men than there are single women. Among the local German women, some will date the migrants, but in general Arab and North African men (and particularly poor ones) aren’t particularly popular among European women, so only a small percentage of them are likely to find European partners…
So then you have all of these single young men from more conservative countries who are suddenly seeing sexuality everywhere for the first time, and seeing attractive young women in much more revealing clothing than they’re used to. But they can’t find a sexual partner.
All of that pent-up frustration likely played a significant role.
Article about this from ABC Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-11/european-migrant-crisis-triggers-gender-imbalance/7076924
There is one upside to the gender imbalance. Though young men of any ethnicity are more likely to engage in crimes and violence, with no willing mates this influx of cheap labour will be a single generation affair.
Be careful of what you wish for. Revolutions and wars had often been preceded by a glut of jobless males aka the angry men…
I also read a piece by a Saudi Wahabbist religious scholar that any woman simply walking along could be raped with impunity, since she should either be with her husband or at home. All those Wahabbist Madrassas have done a Lot of damage.
As I respect your religion, Saker, you should respect me as an atheist. Although you repeat you don’t want to judge, you think you are right and me not, don’t you? :)
Of course, atheism is wrong. Atheism provoked the European moral decay. One cannot have respect for that. On the contrary.
Whereas faith is a belief not based on proof – so it can be neither right or wrong.
Why should one have respect for that?
It is easy to see how the position can (or should) be ridiculed.
coming to think of it, my comment (ridiculing religion) could, of course, have been aimed equally at atheism.
Sorry, but it’s all crap.
There is nothing wrong with religion. Religion is often used as an excuse as cover, while atheists just rape and pillage.
I highly disagree with your analysis. You advocate acceptance of immigrant underclass since they are here already, but with so many foreigners you change, too. It isn’t like France hadn’t tried to incorporate immigrant underclass, but it is still trying to, and failing. Your message is the message of surrender.
You are way off the thrust of what is being said here. In a nutshell it is that Europe has sown the wind and it is now beginning to reap a whirlwind – and the supreme, tragic irony is that, at the behest of their ZOGs, it is Ango-US-NATO that is deliberately engineering it all.
There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.
And why you aparently believe that Saker should give a monkeys’ about Europe is a mystery to me.
Wiki, the whole plan is so transparent that it is almost beyond belief that its authors are so plainly supremely confident that not only will they succeed, but that no Western MSM presstitute will dare to notice what is going on.
First you destroy a few countries, in Hitlerite aggressions and precisely according to the Oded Yinon Plan and the tactics outlined therein. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, all reduced to Hells on earth. Then you drive the resulting refugees out of their ‘safe havens’ in Turkey, after four years of keeping them securely confined. The complicity of the UN Food Program in reducing food supplies to refugees reeks of US influence, all UN bodies being under effective US control.
As these refugees fled, attempts were made to use their flight as an excuse for a no-fly, regime change, effort in Syria, but that fizzled out, for now, probably because of the Russian presence. The refugee flow is a beautiful venue for adding jihadist operatives, and it would only take a few thousand to sow mayhem in Europe.
Then these operatives can be organised by the same forces that have manipulated the Kurds, various ‘terrorist’ groups including Hamas, and Western politics, for decades, by which I do mean the Zionazis. The events in Cologne were plainly controlled and planned, with eye-witnesses reporting ‘well-dressed’ controllers issuing instruction to the thugs. Cologne appears to have been targeted because of its liberality, a typical choice for master manipulators.
I don’t believe for a second that these events were unknown to the police beforehand, and could not have been suppressed. They were allowed to happen, and it is well to remember how deeply penetrated by the far Right are German police forces. Plainly there is worse to come. More Paris-style massacres I would guess, and sexual predation as a bit of variety.
To see ‘who benefits’ is to see who is behind it all. The Islamophobes are empowered, which is truly essential to Zionazi policy. Behind virtually every Islamophobe group or hate-monger in the West it is not too many degrees of separation (often one or none in fact) before you find some figure from the Jewish or Israeli elites. Rampant Islamophobia is essential to the Eretz Yisrael project, and just this week the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset was on Israeli TV spewing the poison that Damascus belongs in Eretz Yisrael. Europe is being punished for recent moves to recognise Palestine. It is being destabilised, which suits the US project to undermine its rise to competition with the USA. Israel probably prefers the complete servitude of the USA to the merely near total obedience of Europe. In any case they thoroughly enjoy spreading chaos and misery amongst their innumerable enemies and victims.
Gosh, Mulga, nothing muddle or mumble about your brain! Absolutely right in every syllable. It is the transparency that gets me: how blind do you have to be not to see all this?
I disagree as a french person,
We never tried to incorporate immigrant underclass, if anything we made them hate us,
the moment we had them come in France massively through the family group law, we basically started the massive guilt campaign against french people for colonialism,
basically building their hatred towards us, while elites used them as social dumping in factories
You are so wrong, it’s just not funny. The French did it to themselves. I do not know hoe old you are, but I would like to take you back to the low sixties (President DeGaulle) Algeria being slaughtered first by Foreign Legion, and later by OAS. Read up on OAS.
Regards,
As much as I’m inclined to agree with you in terms of the portrayal of women in Western culture and the encouragement of promiscuous behaviours, I don’t believe that is the key issue when discussing the events that took place in Cologne. By the way those attacks did not just occur in Cologne but other cities as well ex. Frankfurt and I also read about similar events happening in Helsinki. All of it on New Years Eve. They were clearly NOT random attacks by men thinking Western women are … (fill in the blanks). This was a clearly organized event and I DO NOT think it is just few guys sitting in on their cots at a refugee camp or on FB and saying: “hey, let’s have some fun”. There is much more to this than that. The fact that the police seemed helpless in the face of those assaults just like EU countries seem unable to protect their borders is very telling. The police seemed quite capable when it came to breaking up protests in Cologne few days later. The question to be asked with WTF is going on and what and from where are orders coming from. Those sexual assaults were organized to intimidate the population. It’s easy to start with women and those stereotypes you described are useful tools. This entire “refugee crisis” has been clearly organized (look at the role of Turkey) to destabilize EU. The attacks in Cologne are the first shots so to speak. More to come. Someone wants if not a war than chaos in EU and the EU government is acting helpless and taking on the role of enablers.
Totally agree with your arguments,more than that,the german minister for developement Gerd Müller has told that there are further 7 million migrants still to come in Germany.This is a clear provocation for the germans and for all Europe as well.Meanwhile the Pegida and the Alternative für Deutschland are portrayed as nazis and rasists.Even the reporter from RT said : “European far-right movements use Cologne to boost ranks …” Something is very wrong on this issue.
1700 police had no problem using water-cannon on 3000 Pegida demonstrators this week protesting the rapes and sexual assault. Should we understand that the German government promotes rape and assault? Or are they just protecting the NATO narrative and plan?
From the start of this “refugee” crisis I saw this as a “barbarian invasion”. Not to say that all of those people are barbarians, however, the character of this influx definitely is reminiscent of such invasions. Every great civilization fell to it going back to Mesopotamia and Egypt.
Joanna, I agree with you 100%!
Joanna
I agree that what happened was an organised thing, like a lot of other “spontaneous” protests that seem to appear out of nowhere in countries the zionazis want to take down.
Perhaps this is the next level in the zionazi psywar strategy?
The timing fits in with a bunch of “spontaneous” vigilantes trying to force environmental “rape” in Oregon. My bet these are synchronized psywar assaults, organized, at the top of the parasite chain, by the same toxic oligarchy, using appropriately different reactionary low life to accomplish similar psywar results.
2 things wrong with this Saker analysis: the “slutty white women” are dressed for midnight in mid-winter; revelers are expected in the thousands at a traditional public celebration – so the cops should be prepared for what?
on the other hand a thousand men arrive, organize into gang size groups, and engage in low-intensity, highly charged violation of host country norms; with predictably divisive
consequences Europe-wide.
this is 4th gen – very cheap and effective destabilization of EU norms, aspirations, and solidarity. first the social stability of the EU, then NATO. actually brilliant.
I understood Saker’s video as a an illustration of created culture-mind-memes. If someone considers white European women as s*uts (whether rightly so, or not), it doesn’t matter, what they actually wear. And that Hijab nicely shows, how the surrounding men just shift that same woman into totally different category (even when they still can see her pretty face)…
Joanna, It was very interesting when you wrote, “…I also read about similar events in Helsinki. All of it on New Year’s Eve.” “The Saker” has written this whole article about western women dressed like whores and even presented what looks like a Moslem’s pro-Moslem video showing a woman casually dressed in western style getting constantly sexually called out to and harassed by (I noticed) almost always black men, and then the same woman walking around a bit more covered up by dark cloth basically wrapped around her from the top of her head to her neck and down to her ankles, and was hardly even looked at by men.
But these rapes happened in HELSINKI. On New Year’s Eve. Any woman outside in Helsinki on New Year’s Eve would have to be bundled up like an Eskimo. I’ve been to Helsinki in the dead of winter and so I know what kind of climate they have. That isn’t Los Angeles.
No prostitute-look, there. And yet all these rapes and other attacks occurred anyway.
I have no idea whether this violence was organized and planned, as you contend, or not, but one thing I think I can say for sure, they sure didn’t happen because the Moslem perpetrators were “helplessly turned on by the women who looked like prostitutes”, or else “were righteously punishing the women for being slovenly western females.”
Just based on the two facts of “Helsinki” and “New Year’s Eve”, I would vote for your idea that the violence was organized, for else that is just how Moslem invaders act regardless and talking about how females dress in the west is a red herring.
another example
“This shocking video shows two young women brawling on a street outside a kebab shop.
A brunette woman in a white strapless dress is seen violently kicking and punching another reveller outside the shop on Belmont Street, in Aberdeen city centre.
Friends step in to try and separate the pair as they grapple on the ground before the blonde woman scrambles free.
But the brunette woman refuses to give up and launches herself again at her opponent, revealing her bare bottom in process.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3393723/Shocking-video-shows-half-naked-woman-fighting-female-reveller-outside-kebab-shop-Aberdeen.html#ixzz3wxLQtRro
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we ain’t seen nothing yet?
Drowned woman washes up on the rocks after callous human traffickers throw their ‘cargo’ of 37 migrants overboard before fleeing Italian coastguard
Body of a migrant in her 30s was recovered near Capo di Leuca in Puglia
Five are still missing while 37 made it to shore or were rescued from water
Coastguards say people smugglers threw them off boat before escaping
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3393790/One-dead-5-missing-migrant-boat-Italy-coastguard.html#ixzz3wxLvEIEq
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and
reposting this
“Only 10% of migrants have reached Europe so far, claims German development minister as he warns up to ten million people are ‘still on the way’
CSU Minister Gerd Müller said the Schengen Agreement has ‘collapsed’
Believes that Europe should expect 8-10million more migrants to arrive
Wants Europe to set up a 10billion euro fund to help migrants settling
Germany ‘must reduce migrants or cannot integrate them’ into society ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3393551/Only-10-migrants-reached-Europe-far-claims-German-development-minister-warns-ten-million-people-way.html#ixzz3wxM6llNz
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and
“Germany’s justice minister yesterday appeared to confirm fears New Year’s Eve sex attacks and mob violence across Germany was organised.
More than 200 women have now come forward to say they were sexually assaulted during Cologne’s New Year festivities, police revealed yesterday, with the majority of suspects of North African origin.
There have been complaints of assaults by alleged migrants in half a dozen German cities, as well as Austria, Sweden, Finland and Switzerland.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3393228/Cologne-sex-attacks-planned-gangs.html#ixzz3wxN7y476
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there was a report last week of a coach crashing in Turkey that was transporting immigrants to the west side so they could get over the sea to Lesbos, despite Turkey had been given 3 billion euros to keep them from this, plus week before a sweatshop in Turkey making fake and unuseable lifejackets……………………….
Just as Turkey normalises diplomatic relations with Israel, and the Syriza traitor regime in Greece draws close to the Holy State.
Check out the term ‘Taharrush’. This is the same phenomena as the attacks on women on Tahrir Square during the Arab Spring.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/10/german-authorities-fear-repeat-of-cologne-as-taharrush-comes-to-europe/
http://www.elsevier.nl/Buitenland/achtergrond/2016/1/Waait-aanrandingsfenomeen-Taarrush-nu-over-naar-Europa-2743438W/
Yes, and when it occurs in India it is called groping. It is even a porn topic. But I guess they are not ‘white’ people are they …
I believe both Egyptians and Indians are, as far as I know.
At least Egyptians since the Arab conquest, because in Ancient Egypt there were both Blacks and Whites and, as far as I know, mixed-races elites.
Hmm, actually you are not so correct. Because, generally speaking core Indians (people of India) are classified as Indo-Europeans, hence white. The brown color is only due to millennia of excessive exposure to sunny environment.
Egyptians, are Semites not Indo-Europeans hence generally speaking not white. Again, we can see much darker people in the south.
Actually both Indo-Aryan peoples and Semitic peoples come under the heading of Caucasian peoples (white). They have had a lot of mixing with other peoples over centuries that account for some being darker in color than others (with the Dravidian peoples for the Indo-Aryans and the Sub-Saharan peoples in the case of the Semites) .But scholars list them under the Caucasian ethnic nations.
Always interesting to read your thoughts on such events. I was wondering what this Cologne thing was all about, mainly because nothing is ever as it seems (or as the corporate media presents it). I smell a big rat. Right back when the refugees were coming out of the Turkish camps I wondered why so little was said about the vast imbalance – so many young men as opposed to the usual refugee scenario of older people and young mothers and children. It’s easy to think that this is all somehow planned – the rise of left wing movements in Europe is now being countered by far right movements. Cologne seemed quite convenient to stir up the local community. But I also agree about the the lack of self respect among young Western women. When I grew up the Female Eunuch was popular reading and young women of my generation were taught to believe in themselves (not to hate men as a result, which sadly many who profess to be ‘feminists’ do). Possibly this was because I went to a girls’ school (state run, not private) and there we learned to believe that we were just as capable as boys. Consumerism (aka corporatism) is much more firmly established than it was in the 1960s and 1970s when I grew up. So now young women are under pressure to conform to a certain look and behave in certain ways. Maybe it always has been so. But read any trashy celeb magazine or publication targeted at young women and it is all about weight and looks. Of course this means spending! Sadly I am not sure whether many young women are able to see through this consumerism or to understand how they are being used. And as for sex on TV and in movies – the BBC’s new version of War and Peace is focused on sex. A total dumbing down, but what should we expect? All a bit sad really. Sigh.
Hmm, you are absolutely onto something. The triumph of Free Market Absolutist capitalism has not just denigrated all human values but greed and egotism, the quintessential ‘market virtues’, but has more or less banished them from public life. Everywhere the USA has imposed its Divinely Ordained system, the psychology of the psychopath rules. Greed, egomania, unscrupulousness, aggression and the absence of empathy and compassion (ie ‘Western Moral Values’)rule supreme, with monsters like the ‘charming’ Obama and the ‘charmless’ menageries of imbecile swine contesting the Republican nomination, dominating politics.
This process is exacerbated by popular culture in ‘entertainment’ and advertising. The way that violent, sadistic, inhuman cruelty and violence is pushed in movies and computer games is bad enough, but the unceasing assault of advertising to promote feelings of personal inadequacy and unquenchable greed for junk to ameliorate that pain, has also undoubtedly twisted individual and group psyches. Having just re-watched the magnificent twenty part ‘War and Peace’ by the BBC from the 70s, the idea of condensing it to six parts is beyond ridiculous. My sister who lives in the UK lasted five minutes.
In short the master manipulators are at work, and they have no great fondness for the host populations they seek to control. If popular culture is cheap, degrading, crass, and manipulative, but profitable, so much the better. They can sneer at the inferior races as they descend into the mire. And elite culture, too, has been commodified and stripped of its spiritual significance, reduced to the status of consumer good and a symbol of elite superiority.
Sex along with Youth and Beauty became the primary marketing “isms” of Madison Avenue after World War One and have devastated “Traditional Values” first in USA, then Europe, now globally. This in turn created one of the primary “Wedge Issues” used to divide and conquer polities so they do not gain solidarity against the Oligarchy. Just reading this thread proves how successful it’s been and continues to be–Tribalism is winning out over Humanism, enriching the Oligarchy while impoverishing everyone else. Once established, these numerous divisions are easy to keep and manipulate, easily overwhelming those of us calling for paving over the divisions, begging for the solidarity required to liberate humanity from its enslavers. Until wisdom, knowledge and virtue defeat Sex, Youth and Beauty in Pop Culture as preferred goals and values, the elements that made Cologne and its concomitant events possible will continue to enslave Humanity.
Excellent overview of the issue. Philosophy must replace hedonism as an engine of social conduct, mandatory study of Platonic dialogues, classical liberal humanities. Return to history, real science.
Nice one Outlaw. ‘Divide and Rule’- the oldest technique of the Overlords. There is so much effort taken to divide people, along ideological, sectarian, racist, gender, sexual preference, geographical, generational and even sporting support lines, that you end up with tiny cliques of one, the atomised, isolated, hyper-individualistic, ‘Market Man’ at the mercy of the ‘rich man in his habitation’ and the pitiless ‘Invisible Hand’ of wealth and power. All others are the ‘competition’ in reality the enemy, and it is every man for himself and the Market take the hindmost-the ‘bellum omnium contra omnes’.
The events in Cologne were:
a) 100% predictable & inevitable.
b) Demonstrate the utter rottenness of the EU-regimes.
c) Demonstrate the feminization of contemporary western culture.
d) Demonstrate the cowardice of contemporary western culture.
e) Demonstrate the degree of ideological brain-washing of western populations who place being politically correct above the well-being and dignity of their young female populations.
f) Demonstrate the cynicism of Big Capital in Western countries, who for the sake of higher rents and lower wages would gladly throw young girls to rape-gangs from the Third World.
g) Demonstrate that Russia-Iran-Iraq-Syria-Hezbollah can win this Global Hybrid War rather easily, if they act with due patience and play their cards right. This is despite the colossal superiority in economic, technological and informational warfare capabilities of NATO-GCC. China’s direct help would hardly be required.
I think that the only genuinely potent weapon left at the hands of the NATO-GCC Empire is the lowering of the oil price, a weapon that will have maxed out within 2016.
How come you don’t object to them throwing young girls to rape-gangs from the First World?
Saker, you speak the thruth. Thank you.
A comment on the video. The problem is not that women don’t respect themselves, it is MEN that have no respect for themselves. Blaming women for men’s lack of self control has been a tactic of alpha male dominated culture (which is pretty much every culture) since the beginning of recorded history. It this culture which subjects women as the property of men which is morally corrupt.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for your words.
There is nothing wrong with being sexually liberal.
As the great George Bush once said, “if it feels good, do it”
As for your story about the Saudi woman reacting in disgust to a couple making out in a park… as a person who had the unfortunate disprivilege of visiting the joke we know as Saudi Arabia I can assure her there is a lot worse things happening in her country than the simple affection she was forced to “endure”.
If she thought Switzerland was bad, she needs to visit Italy.
Interesting to hear of the ingratitude of refugees. That would add some justification to the xenophobes’ vitriol, as if it needed any.
As for the couple making out on a blanket, Saker, I have to say I think you’re the rude prude there. It’s not your business, they aren’t hurting you, and if you don’t like it, don’t watch. Same goes for the Saudi couple — they didn’t need to watch.
But as for the ‘big picture’, I wonder if this event wasn’t somehow propelled by the social engineers of the Empire of Chaos. To awaken long-suppressed fascist impulses, and cause a political meltdown in western Europe. Maybe later on, they’ll kick it in the direction of Russophobia. It was shocking to me, once I started following the events in the Ukraine, to learn that there were Nazis, apparently preserved in deep freeze, left over from the 1940s, and that they could be thawed out and reactivated.
I have to disagree, Americanski. Such matters are intimate and private, or, I think, ought to be. Exhibitionism doesn’t valorise affection, it degrades it by turning it into mere display. A kiss or a hug, certainly, but where, in your opinion would you draw the line? It seems to me to be a continuum that ends in pornography and enforced voyeurism. And it is proper to take into account the feelings of others who might be offended by your activities. But, of course these are matters of opinion.
Yeah, I suppose it makes sense to draw the line somewhere. I came of age in the USA in the ’60s. If it were an open-air orgy going on in the park, I’d almost certainly find that offensive.
I think the point here is that cultural differences are very real.
And agree that it looks suspiciously like the “department of central planning” has organized this latest assault as part of a larger plan to wreck Europe. To awaken the Nazis.
Exactly, Amerikanski. A pure psy-ops operation to divide the EU between the refugee hating Right and the Left. The WSWS has a good article today on the Nazi-like racism and hatemongering of the German MSM. Bertholt Brecht foresaw this development in ‘The Resistable Rise of Arturo Ui’, ‘….the bitch (Germany) that bore him (Ui/Hitler) is in heat again’. With no apologies to Angela Merkel.
Agreed. Saudi is a degenerate culture, and many of the Saudi aristocracy are misogynistic libertines. Saker, you are generalizing in a very disingenuous way from your personal experience, and I can assure you that my experiences of Saudi life and culture are very different. They certainly do NOT hold the moral high ground.
That’s correct ,their wahabi extremist ideology and repression of women has resulted in hidden paedophilia. Boys are in more danger than women in Saudi. So extremism of any kind is bad ,whether the Saudi wahabi type ,or the extreme free sex type ,where men become desensitised to women and begin going after men and boys. The answer is the middle way.
Very very enlightened comment, Vietnam Vet.
@Vietnam Vet
THANK YOU!
If only de Beauvoir’s Second Sex was made mandatory study globally, humanity would be more enlightened. Amazing that almost 70 years after being published the world is still mired in essentially the same crap now as then.
Mired for 70,000 not 70 years, more likely. Mind you, we went right off the rails when we settled down to agriculture, patriarchy and class divisions, which was rather more recent.
My best response to this article is none at all, and leave it at that. But, I can’t believe everyone missing the elephant in the room. If the 5 eyes spy on everyone all the time (they do) and especially social media (created for that purpose) — the western authorities knew these attacks were coming and at best allowed them to happen. More likely the same people who own the 5 eyes and financed this colonisation of Europe by a covert mercenary force used their intelligence services to organise these attacks.
Bottom line, those who own the West have hated the indigenous people of Europe for a thousand years. Now they have their Chinese factories so both indigenous Europeans and overseas Europeans are surplus to requirements. The final global genocide of the European peoples has begun. And people are making excuses for the mercenaries??? Unbelievable. Don’t believe it? Explain why the police did nothing to stop the attacks but were able to organise a regiment of police to water cannon – in winter – the indigenous people of Europe protesting their replacement.
Precisely!!! I think you used the correct word: mercenaries. Those men where certainly acting as mercenaries and the police as enablers. That is the key point here. I’ve heard German media describe them as an invading force. That is another good term to use.
Also note that all of my life I have been told by leftists that my existence in an overseas European colony was illegitimate because – 12 generations ago – I had ancestors who came from Europe who stole land from indigenous people – the ultimate crime. Yet, when the indigenous peoples of Europe are abused, nary a peep from the media. Evidently Europeans are unworthy of life even in the continent they have called home for 40,000 years.
Also, suppose I felt guilty enough to leave my colonial country and return to Europe. Note that as a productive worker with proven European ancestry I have no hope of attaining residency in any EU country where I have ancestral ties. Yet a million non European military aged males are welcomed with open arms and benefits. This is a long planned strategy for genocide, pure and simple.
Totally agree. That is certainly underway. Let us not forget that cultural genocide is just as deadly as physical genocide. That has certainly been underway in Europe for decades with Americanization of culture, “dechristianization” and now we’ve got chaos and “Islamization”.
Joy: “Note that as a productive worker with proven European ancestry I have no hope of attaining residency in any EU country where I have ancestral ties. ”
Very glad to hear you make this point. At least, not if your ancestral ties are German (things are different in Ireland and, I think, Italy, among others). My mother was a forcibly ex-patriated from German (Berlin) in 1937, by means of a passport with six months’ validity issued for the specific purpose of enabling her to exit the country and enter the Netherlands (as a transit country), But not to come back (she had to turn in her “real” passport). After the six months were up, she was stateless. In other ways my family was abused by the German Reich via the aryanization laws. My grandfather was a German citizen, Jewish. My grandmother, Gentile, also. Now, the contemporary German state denies that I, a direct descendant of two German citizens, have a right to be recognized as a German citizen; the authorities actually cite as authority the Reichsgesetze in force at that time. BTW I am fluent in German, and conducted all correspondence with the German authorities in German. Per the German state my mother left Germany voluntarily, renounced her citizenship voluntarily and my father was American—for all of these reasons I have no claim to be recognized as a German.
It is supremely ironic that millions of “asylum seekers” will be helped to sustain themselves in Germany while actual descendants of Germans are given the “Who are you?” treatment.
Katherine
I also agree with Joy, this stinks of a conspiracy. And I disagree with Saker’s assessment that nothing can be done. Europe can and will close the gates to the barbarians once they’ve dismantled the EU and thrown out the rotten globalist puppets who “lead” them.
@Katherine:
Thank you for this revealing personal story of you!
That is interesting (sad also). I think they may had changed the law. Because (though it might have been location explicit) for a while all those “ethnically” German from the East were allowed to immigrate to Germany and get German citizenship. Several million ethnic Germans (and 1/2 and 1/3 and even 1/4 Germans) left the former Eastern Bloc and immigrated to Germany. Many from Russia,Poland,Yugoslavia,and Romania,in particular did so.Those in Poland of course were mostly descendants of so-called “Reich Germans”,but the others weren’t.
Joy,you hit the point ! absolutely right
Chinese workers and others paid less than minimum wage.A factory assembly line in China, pays only $50 a month. Unsafe working conditions. At times they are not paid for months.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-npc-workers-idUSTRE8260H120120307
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/american-brands-abuses-factories-jordan-labor-conditions_n_903995.html
Of course, this is nothing new. Wealthy Europeans and European descendants have always had either free slaves or nowadays.Today these slaves are badly paid and in dangerous environments at times.
And as to indigenous people of Europe (Americans are included) protesting their replacement…well, they have replaced millions for centuries. Starting with the Natives of both Americas, people in Africa, Canada, Australia, Japanese, etc.
Saker says, it’s “certain karmic elegance”.
I say, the chickens have come home to roost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208t80uceSg
Carmel by the Sea
Absolutely wrong headed. The 30 families (see the book “Superclass” by David Rothkopf of Kissinger Associates) who own the world have Chinese slave labourers. Their stories are various, but I doubt there is an authentic European clan among them. As to who was responsible for the trans Saharan (largest and longest lasting) slave trade, that would be the “religion of peace”
As to the supposed European blood guilt of the trans Atlantic save trade, well even Mr Google can help you there. Search on “who owned the slave ships”. There is a bad karma which has been building since Babylon, and justice will not be done until the 30 Lucifer worshiping families and their cast of supporters fall. European peoples have given these demons more opposition than anyone else over the centuries, which is why we are targeted for elimination.
What “religion of peace” do you refer to? These people?
Excerpt:
“In one area of what used to be Dutch Guyana, 40 Jewish-owned plantations were home to a total population of at least 5,000 slaves, he says. Known as the Jodensavanne, or Jewish Savannah, the area had a Jewish community of several hundred before its destruction in a slave uprising in 1832. Nearly all of them immigrated to Holland, bringing their accumulated wealth with them.
“Some of that wealth was on display last year in the cellar of Amsterdam’s Portuguese Synagogue, part of an exhibition celebrating the riches of the synagogue’s immigrant founders. Van de Kamp says the exhibition sparked his interest in the Dutch Jewish role in slavery, which was robust.
On the Caribbean island of Curacao, Dutch Jews may have accounted for the resale of at least 15,000 slaves landed by Dutch transatlantic traders, according to Seymour Drescher, a historian at the University of Pittsburgh. At one point, Jews controlled about 17 percent of the Caribbean trade in Dutch colonies, Drescher said.”
http://www.jta.org/2013/12/26/news-opinion/world/dutch-rabbi-confronts-jews-with-ancestors-complicity-in-slavery
http://rense.com/general69/invo.htm
There is no “supposed” guilt. Europeans Jews and non-Jews ( their descendants included) ARE guilty of kidnapping), murdering, making slaves of millions of non whites through slavery and various genocide.
Got Hiroshima?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7IasaZ4I-A
Warning: strong images.
Carmel by the Sea
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Carmel, thanks for the interesting information. When mention is made of the Jewish role in slavery, hardly surprising given the nature of their religion and their dedication to all sorts of wealth-creating commerce, the usual response is shrieks of ‘antisemitism’, conversation terminated, and more names added to the list of the proscribed. It hardly seems that the Jews ‘dominated’ the slave trade, but they did their bit. Just as today, where the lust for wealth surely does euthanise any moral qualms amongst certain individuals, and Jews do, indeed, dominate a number of not necessarily beneficial industries, such as pornography, drug trafficking, particularly in Ecstasy, human organ trafficking, blood diamonds, military, surveillance and civilian repressing technology (tested on the Palestinian ‘laboratory rats’)sex trafficking etc. While these are activities that many Jews no doubt disapprove of, those that do not have made billions from them (not to forget the Big One- the financial Moloch strangling Western societies)and ‘leveraged’ that wealth to take over politics in the West. The notorious differential in Judaic morality, between behaviour permissible in regard to Jews and that in regard to the goyim, another topic utterly verboten in the West, operates as a distinct advantage under Free Market capitalism, which as Milton Friedman observed, is a system that plainly advantages the Jews. He seemed to think of his people as an undifferentiated mass, strangely enough.
If these attacks were a covert operation or conspiracy, then the primary beneficiaries of them are White European nationalists, xenophobes, racists, and other fascists.
The Euro nationalist has been handed a political gift in that they can use these attacks as a cause celebre and propaganda fodder to promote their hatred of the Muslims hordes who are threatening Western Civilization, deflowering White womanhood, and diluting the sanctity of European culture with Islam, blah, blah, blah.
This is just a variation of the cliched modus operandi that America used after the oh-so-convenient events of 9-11 or France after the recent attacks in Paris and before that Charlie Hebdo.
In each case, European American nationalists and other fascists creamed their pants in political joy as they were gifted their very own Nazi-style Reichstag Fire, through which they could posture as defenders of Western Civilization (sic) against yet another heathen Other.
Indeed, this kind of mentality is pathological to what is laughably called Euro-American democracy, which increasingly resembles Orwell’s 1984 and 1930s Germany with its reliance upon bogeymen to unify their nations.
The Saker wrote :
“This is why no matter how hard it will be to defend this position, I will always personally be a proponent of an alliance between Europeans and immigrants against those who seek to destroy the European continent, the Maghreb and the Mashriq. The Wahabi crazies in Syria, the immigrant thugs in Cologne, the Kosovar Mafia, the neo-Nazis in Germany (and the Ukraine), the Turkish “Grey Wolves” – they are all tools in the hands of the same master who simply seeks to divide and rule”.
I fully agree with the Saker on the above statement. It doesn’t matter to the 0.1%, they have no loyalty to any particular nation or country as they see themselves as being “exceptional” and “chosen”, their only loyalty is to themselves and their own profits and gains. But unfortunately people are by and large too divided along economic, racial, social, political and religious lines to fully unite against the very people who are engineering all their misery while at the same time making them destitute and driving them into poverty. It is these very fault lines they exploit and manipulate to turn people against each other, if these fault lines or divisions didn’t exist in the first place they would be powerless to make their mischief.
Is anyone here seriously trying to tell me that the German government would not have known what the effects of suddenly letting in hundreds of thousands of mostly young Arab men of unknown origin into the country within such a short space of time would be ? With their legions of intelligence advisors and think tanks, etc. ? I don’t think so.
” It doesn’t matter to the 0.1%, they have no loyalty to any particular nation or country as they see themselves as being “exceptional” and “chosen”, their only loyalty is to themselves and their own profits and gains.”
That is an ironic point isn’t it. Those that (mostly) have adopted that “equality” in society always talked about. Are the elite 1% groups. To them “money” is their nation and religion. If you are a millionaire and billionaire,whatever your color, or nationality. You are one of them. And they can and do work together to keep the rest of us in “our places”. Except for skin color,how is Obama different than Bush in his pro-elite thinking. Not very much I’d say. And the same could be said throughout the World.
Uncle Bob wrote :
“That is an ironic point isn’t it. Those that (mostly) have adopted that “equality” in society always talked about. Are the elite 1% groups. To them “money” is their nation and religion. If you are a millionaire and billionaire,whatever your color, or nationality. You are one of them”.
Unfortunately you are right in your observation and it is indeed ironic. It is the ordinary people, mr. and mrs. Joe Bloggs who are left to engage in divisive knee jerk xenophobia, Islamophobia, blind ignorance, and all the other divisive isms and phobias out there that keep us at each others throats fighting for the measly crumbs they throw off their high table to us. Europe in its turn is about to experience what countries in Latin America, Africa and the middle east have had done to them for decades by the “one indispensable nation”. It is true what they, what goes around will always come around.
Money is not the only factor. It is obvious that Bill Gates had no problem entering while Pablo Escobar did not fit. Correct color, family, and nationality are no longer necessary. “The essence of oligarchical rule is not father-to-son inheritance, but the persistence of a certain world-view and a certain way of life … A ruling group is a ruling group so long as it can nominate its successors… Who wields power is not important, provided that the hierarchical structure remains always the same.”: George Orwell, 1984. At the same time I believe Saker is correct when he states the PTB that wield the most power these days is the Anglo-Zionist partnership. FDR was the first US President to have a significant number of Jews in his administration. The Israelis added blackmail power (they have always used their wealth – to help Truman beat Dewey in one instance to get the US to recognize Israel) when they had Jacob Rubinstein (Jack Ruby) kill Lee Harvey Oswald on TV for the Deep State.
To all:
I’d like to share some videos of kind and grateful refugees and their good- hearted human “angels”. These type of videos are hardly shown or viewed but I share them with all here, so you too may believe in the goodness that can be reached in each and all of us. One person at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWa9u-W6eU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vIQchtB_0
The man with child in arms that was kicked by the Hungarian reporter. He was given a home in Spain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRwB9WdKToQ
“For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me”
—Jesus Christ
just by the way,the man with the child has been found to be a “refugee” from the al-nusra front in syria
“Anonymous on January 11, 2016 · at 6:36 pm UTC
just by the way,the man with the child has been found to be a “refugee” from the al-nusra front in syria”
What you say is not true. Why do you not give a name? He who posts as Anonymous does not have the same right to be believed as he who is not ashamed of naming himself.
What do you mean “is not true”? I read a story a couple of months ago that in Syria he was a supporter of the rebel groups. It even had a picture of him in rebel uniform. So if you know better how about sharing that information with us.
I understand your sentiments. It’s essential also that we don’t harden our hearts to ‘others’ and lose our humanity in the process. But we, that is Europeans are under attack here, not from refugees, but by the hidden hand, the AngloZionsists as Saker probably rightly identifies, that exploits the unrest in the Middle East to create unrest here in Europe. They are counting on the good heartedness of Europeans to continue so that we don’t resist the influx and the ensuing mass civil unrest that will be the result. A people that believe that charity begins furthest from home, is a people that will not survive.
“…climbing on top of funeral pyres to take photos of themselves in bikinis…”
Now that (no caps please.ModTR) sounds a very risky thing to do. Are they trying to find out what suttee feels like?
this happened right after the pyre was extinguished :-)
(in Bali)
Cheers,
The Saker
And…?
The really comes across as cherry-picking exceptions to support your rather Manichaean worldview.
And please don’t take offense with that as I am distinctly “gnostic by temperament” myself; however, trotting out absolutist statements like “Europe is completely morally and intellectually bankrupt” is a black and white absurdity. How about this: “Europe is completely morally and intellectually bankrupt… except of course when it is not.”
Cheers,
DR-Montreal
DR, it would be entirely accurate if it said that ‘…the European elites created by decades of utter subservience to the USA and their domestic Jewish Fifth Columns, are morally and intellectually bankrupt’. In fact it would be quite an understatement.
Mulga, I quite agree. It was the absolutism of “completely” in the sentence I wanted a bit more nuanced… or better defined as you have done.
DR, we all slip up and get a bit carried away from time to time. Often I say ‘such and such’ when I really mean ‘the ruling swine amongst such and such’.
In a perfect world, everyone would be free to wear as much or as little clothing as they choose. The experience of nudist colonies and other such communities demonstrates that civilized people can, after a little time to adjust, become quite comfortable seeing one another naked. (Some people’s bodies are aesthetically much more pleasing than others, but that does not necessarily have much to do with sex).
Clothing customs are based on value judgments; they are aspects of morality, hence subjective not objective. Generally speaking, the more “advanced” a culture, the more tolerant it is of nudity (or, for that matter, of its opposite – clothing such as the burka). While I am not yet decrepit enough to be physically indifferent to female beauty, I can just about concede that – in principle – women ought to be able to wander around in public completely naked if they want to. If men are aroused by the sight, that is their problem. Fair enough in principle – but not entirely practical.
However this reveals a gaping hole in the politically correct attitude to multiculturalism and immigration. This holds that any number of people should be able to get along perfectly well, no matter how different their cultural, religious and racial backgrounds. It should be absolutely obvious from recent events in Europe that this is completely wrong. In principle (again!) the refugees should accept that, if they enter someone else’s country and accept its hospitality, they must also accept its rules. But, being either naive, blinkered by dogmatic religion, or simply malicious, they don’t.
Thanks for that.
You shall not judge, lest you be judged.
Very good article.
Most of them indeed are sluts. But not only European woman – degradation in Europe is total.
“European values” – is an empty slogan, non-existent concept, baloney. There is only globalist Zionist values imposed on European sheeple.
They mourn 12 people killed in Paris with millions “Charlies” and dozens of world leaders marching on the streets while at the very same day almost two hundred civilians were murdered by Ukronazi forces shelling cities of Donbass.
Eurocretins can condemn terrorist attacks in Europe, but at the same time support “moderate terrorists” who do the same against Syrians or eat hearts of Syrian soldiers on camera.
They blab about “freedom and democracy”, but support dictators of Montenegro (25 years of criminal Djukanovic regime in power), Turkey (oppressive terrorist supporter Erdogan), Saudi Arabia (medieval age head choppers, whose ideology not much better than ISIS’) or Ukronazi regime (no free speech or political freedom whatsoever) – as long as they act in line with orders of US-EU Zionist Empire.
So much for “European values”.
That is uncontested fact. Absolutely 100% spot on.
Europe have to pay the price for its blind support of criminal actions Zionist Empire committed. Millions of people killed, dozens of millions displaced, whole countries destroyed as a result of this actions (starting from aggression against Yugoslavia to destruction of Libya, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine and many others).
Europeans thought their Zionist masters will be merciful towards them as a reward for their faithful service during decades. Alas, they were wrong.
And this is just a beginning.
It occurs to me that one possible reason why the young woman was relatively undisturbed while wearing a burka might be that it makes her look rather like a nun.
I love the guy in the backward baseball cap giving his advice to women that they dress in long black dresses.
If all women dressed in the long black dresses he depicted then men would just up the anti. In countries where women are obliged to dress like this they get heckled if they are walking alone like the women is doing in the video. Then they have to cover their face, then they can’t be out without a male relative. It never ends.
Women have to be chaste, virgins dressed like 14th century nuns and men get to watch porn, run around in shorts and backwards baseball caps, swim in skimpy briefs and occupy all the public spaces.
Women need to stay home, cook, clean and care for the sick, young and elderly.
Amen.
Free wifi plus the right to have a smart phone means you can stream pornography all day in your refugee centre. This crash course in sexual liberation might well contribute to what is going on in Germany.
Really I can’t find much to disagree with this article. We live in a post-modern bizarro world, where the death of an iconic pop star (David Bowie), who encapsulated the debauched values of progressive, post WW2 Europe, has the mainstream media and hordes of worshippers falling over themselves to pay homage. Meanwhile the zombie masses of Europe are walking, obliviously, towards the cliff, smartphones in hand, never to seen again. We truly are insane.
Oh, come on. David Bowie was avant-garde. So everything has to be totally boring all the time? He was a very original artist. Is freedom of expression so wrong?
As painful as it can be, the whole “modern culture” – at least since 20th century – is a social engineering project. Want some sources?
Yeah, I know, Tavistock. The whole “British Invasion” was Tavistock. Remember when American youth in the 50s wore crewcut hairstyles, saluted the flag, and respected their elders? Not after the Beatles and Stones arrived. They say it was Winston Churchill’s revenge for losing the empire to the U.S. Yup, that’s when the strong moral family values started to unravel and America started going into the toilet and they protested the Vietnam War.
143 police appeared in Cologne on the night the savage hordes rioted, raped, with very few arrests. Several days later 1500 police appeared to keep down the horror of ethnic Germans protesting. Seems the German Sanhedrin has their priorities in order.
@JMoore – Bullseye!
As readworthy The Sakers comments on Russia and Syria are, as removed. no attacking the author. Mod TR. are his comments on Europe as usual.
In Europe he sees culture and civilization in decay, though that being partly right, many good people also atempt to preserve the spirit of the occident despite the brainwashing in the corperate media. He uses the “White Trash” with their falling down pants to represent the European youngsters, the EU-politician to prove Europes intellectual bankrupcy, he projects bad americans habits on Europe, while he represents the Arabs by the gentle senior diplomat. He sees brave Syrians and Novorussians fight in other articles, but only cowards in Europe. This picture is plain and simply biased and makes his analysis on Europe not useful (word changed).
Proof of the false representation gives The Sakers own videolink, where they have to liberate the woman from three migrants. Where ever the video is taken, it actually shows very well, what is happening to European security as a result of the mass immigration. What the video shows is completely new in all European nations!
The Saker then dreams of an aliance between migrants and the host population against the Anglozionist Empire.
Well, the immigrants assaults on the host population as shown in his own vidoe link are now daily events. Last new years eve I experiences the immigrated Turks shooting targeted fireworks on the Germans in Heidelberg at the square by the Karls Bridge. After half an hour they had driven all white people away from the Karls Bridge. This is micro jihad – jihad under the rader. The Sakers hope for an alliance between the host and the nobel invaders are simply utopic day dreams. What people will learn after the mass assaults in Cologne is the term of ‘Taharrush’, the arabic sex mob.
North european in general are used to their state protecting their contry against outside evils. Therefore their trust in the state is very high. Much higer than in the US. Most cant believe a globalist deep state exist in Brussels.
But the awakening is slowly taking place. Denmark just took control of her border back from the EU the 4th of January after an election rejected further EU-integration last November. Pro EU are mostly the elderly people, while there is a significant majority in the younger generation that wants to claim the national sovereinty back. The Dutch polles show, that a similar election in the coming spring will give the same result in the Netherlands.
It is not time to give up the hope, though dark times will come. As the demonstrators say in Dresden: “Why did we overrun the DDR just to get this shit (Scheisse) instead” ;-)
“This picture is plain and simply biased”
I agree for just the same arguments that you mentioned.
Thanks for presenting a more hopeful position.
I agree with you 100%
Well said, Bjorn.
I was reading Colonel Cassad’s article on this subject through Google translate. First, I noticed that Google translate only translated a portion of the article and stopped translating the Russian at an arbitrary point, and then I got an “unusual traffic from your site” message and had to enter some keyword to continue. This has never happened to me before and seems peculiar, as if I had triggered something. As is typical, the Cassad article was non-hysterical.
I suspect that, as the riot took place at a major train station, there is enough surveillance video around so that the German authorities will be able to successfully prosecute some of these people.
Try Yandex instead to translate.
Could you please provide the link to that article of Cassad about the events in Cologne?
No wonder if it is in Russian. I will try to translate. I am very interested.
Thanks in advance.
Here it is (in Russian): http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2563957.html
@elsi
Here is the link
Psychosis in Cologne
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2563957.html
Use
https://translate.yandex.ru/
a very good translator
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2563957.html
Thank you to all, guys.
Surely the way a person presents him/ herself, for a stranger, is the way he/she is.
But it looks the attacks were planned, the police in Cologne says they were coordinated via internet, By whom? Do we have to believe the ‘angry, depressed, unhappy, frustrated” Muslim males have already an organization at their disposal to create such an havoc in the country which had opened its arms to them? does it make sense? And why no one had questioned before the coming of all those males without a family? The responsibility of this mess is Merkel’s, a politician at the end of her career who sold out to German corporations who want cheap labor, who- we do not know for how much money- follows blindly US policy of chaos, who from European taxpayers’ money pays Turkey’s blackmail on migrants. She knows very well what she is doing: she should receive a retribution for the evil she has perpetrated not only on Germany, but on other states of the union as well.
For the European citizens who more and more realize the trap they have fallen into, in my opinion, this is karma to its best: for the people they have been accomplices to kill, for the states they have robbed or which they did not care if were robbed, for the children their peacemakers have sodomized, and when payday comes is never pleasant!
» The responsibility of this mess is Merkel’s, a politician at the end of her career who sold out to German corporations who want cheap labor … «
The responsibility of this mess is indeed Merkel’s. And all the corrupt cowards’ who obey her. The State has been hijacked from the top and is used against the blinded, dumb, clueless People. We’re all asleep.
But I don’t buy the story about corporations wanting cheap labor. Just look at the people who arrive. No one speaks German. Many are analphabets. They’re basically not employable. Except as drug dealers etc. In the U.S. I’ve seen people in supermarkets occupied to fill customers’ bags at checkout. Such jobs don’t exist in Germany. Not anywhere in Europe, I think.
The Saker’s comment struck me as odd. It is certainly not the girls’ fault, not even a tiny bit. (Only if they were braindead enough to do the “refugees welcome!” shouting – but not for dressing sexy.) Thanks to Bjørn Rasmussen for his reasonable comment on the Saker’s statement. Greetings from Hamburg!
“If modern Europe did have some real civilizational values it would have been able to deal with this refugee crisis.”
What are these real civilizational values? And what would they have allowed Europe to do to deal with the refugee crisis?
Dear Saker,
your thoughts are not only disjointed, you have allowed you mind to be mired by 3D news and events because you are still approaching this world in an agnostic – hence disjoint – manner. Hence you are losing increasingly your critical assessment.
First of all there were no attacks, everything that happened in Germany was invented and is lies propaganda by the German “Luegenpresse”. The attacks were well orchestrated and invented by certain influential German circles and from abroad (USA?) and have twofold goals that converge:
1) to put Merkel under pressure to stop allowing the unlimited immigration of refugees from the Middle East.
2) to put pressure on the German population to give up its constitutional rights, which are the strongest in the western world, in order to establish an authoritarian regime, as we see this in France and GB already. This in anticipation of the NWO.
Anything else is bull****, especially your comments on female moral. no attacking the author. Stick to facts. Mod TR
Now read this article which I wrote before the international media, and deplorably also RT and all other Russian and all alternative media in the West, became prey to this Orion lie about the alleged attacks in Germany:
http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2016/01/die-wahrheit-hinter-den-angeblichen-kolner-hbh-ereignissen-am-silvesterabend/
and here the general explanation why we have to deal with German “Lies-press” and should not believe it:
http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2016/01/musing-over-the-german-character/
You may have travelled a lot, but you have most probably not participated in a New Year firework in Germany or in a carnival in Cologne to appreciate the situation. And you have not bathed in the sun naked as I and many Germans are doing for instance in the English garden in the centre of Munich or elsewhere in open places while enjoying the freedom of “Freikoerperkultur”. removed. baiting and emotive.
Dr. Georgi Stankov,
Vancouver, Munich, Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
You wish to make a comment but feel quite happy being not only rude to the Saker but promoting your own website twice on his site. All your rude and baiting comments have been removed.
Dr. Georgi Stankov wrote:
> Anything else is bull****, especially your comments on female moral.
Sadly I must agree with Dr. Georgi Stankov on that.
Sakers statements about this really disgust me (which I say for the very first time about any Saker statements I ever read from day one)
And as for all the empty slogans about respect: How much respect do the so called “refugees” have which sleep, urinate and else on holy orthodox cementries in Serbia (in September I posted some links)?
How much respect do such ISIS barbarians have who repeatedly beat girls to death?
(all the time, that’s the most normal thing to them)
Austrian ISIS ‘poster girl’ beaten to death after trying to flee extremist group – reports
https://www.rt.com/news/323441-isis-killed-austrian-teenager/
How much respect do such muslims or pseudo-muslims (I don’t care!) have like the one who trew me to the soil only because he refused to apologize at me (I was right, but he blmaed me for things I did not damage in his dman small hotel room), then he kicked me for about 2 minutes with full force (with his right foot) into my face?
Then only a quick unchecked google for some events I have to read in german underground blogs for many years already (while MSM have a reporting blackout) :
muslim crimes germany
https://www.google.de/search?q=muslim+crimes+germany&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ch2UVp6hGYH9yQP6vZG4BQ
muslim beatings germany
https://www.google.de/search?q=muslim+crimes+germany&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcwded2aLKAhWFhSwKHUDCAx4Q_AUICCgC&biw=1280&bih=885#tbm=isch&q=muslim+beatings+germany
As for the rest:
Strange is indeed that this time the MSM reported about it for the first time ever.
This means that scepticism is justified.
But I wouldn’t go that far to say, that german secret services themselves staged this.
As for FKK: Yes, we also did that in GDR.
Is somebody suggesting if we get raped, robbed, beaten, killed by muslims that’s “fully ok” because “we are all bitches” ??
BTW: Also men participated in FKK bathing. Nobody would ever touch or hurt anybody.
It was a society full of mutual respect: Soviet East-Germany.
East Germany propaganda- East Berlin 1950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmlT7HzELDY
It shocks me what Saker wrote about “western bitches”, that real nonsense.
We are not the USA here.
Oh keep reading and you will notice more disturbing stuff. For example:
– Evil AngloZionists this, AZE that, but what is omitted is that Russia is in Zionist hands since 1917 as well
– Putin the good man in the bad system, but it seem he is enmeshed in the Moscow appartment buildings and other “terrorist” attacks, a la his Western “partners”
– Putin was just voted man of the year in Israel, a creation of Rothschild
– Putin pretends that 9/11 and all the other false flags (e.g. the now 3 ones in Paris) were genuine events
– comments pointing to such discrepancies are regularly censored or not posted at all
@Adler:
Very valid points.
Especially 9/11 and the central bank.
I’m also at a point where I’m losing faith.
But I know, that’s a holy taboo.
I try to defend him, but at the same time I have my own doubts.
This doesn’t mean I’m aginst him. Ity only means what I have written in these few lines.
Strangely, despite everything, I find myself almost 100% in agreement with most of what the Saker says, to such an extent I feel like offering constant defense. However, the new moderators here make it unbearable for me. All these removed words, I find it offensive, it feels wrong, and I abhor censorship when the ideas presented are not base and vulgar.
Is this blog so frail and sensitive that we need to be protected from every argument that MAY prove offensive? Now we have words in caps being removed. Some of you moderators are way out of line (power trippin) and the Saker needs to speak up about it. If the Saker is content with the current moderating than I’ll accept my leave for good, otherwise speak up man.
Reply from the Saker: over the past couple of days (well, ever since I committed my latest “crimethink” I did do most of the moderation myself because I feel guilty of throwing such a headache-inducing moderation on others. The mods are trying hard to follow the guidelines I gave them, so please do not blame them for policies which I have adopted. Furthermore, when they remove a word or a sentence, they are choosing the option of not sending the entire comment into the trash bin, so you really have no reason of accusing them of “power tripping”.
As for me being protected from arguments which I may find offensive, this is silly: over the past 24 hours a let 99% of all Saker-bashing comments through, and I did that myself, no mod had to ‘protect’ me.
I just wanted to clarify this to you and others.
Cheers!
The Saker
@Angelo
The Saker has responded to you and I would like to add the following as a moderator.
Here is a copy of the first 5 moderation policy rules:
1 ) Absolutely no use of CAPITAL LETTERS (as this is considered SCREAMING).
2 ) All comment have to be impeccably courteous to me, the blog’s author, moderators, any guest author and all the other commentators. Absolutely no ad hominems or personal attacks. Comments insulting the 1% plutocracy ruling the AngloZionist Empire are allowed and encouraged.
3 ) Any comment designed to make me angry will make me angry and will be removed in anger.
4 ) All racist comments are banned, including of the Nazi racists and Jewish racist type.
5 ) Any comment deliberately and grossly mis-representing what I write will be immediately removed. I shall not answer any “straw man” arguments.
This is the policy all moderators are asked to follow. We are all volunteers and give up a lot of our personal time to help the Saker. Just like everyone else who keeps the site going.
So maybe less of the criticism please and fantasies of power tripping. The Saker makes the final decision on all comments that are published. As the Saker says 99% of comments go through and we follow what we have been asked to do.
why? because the unknown Putin secured Russia’s borders for his oligarch chums while wealth disparity sky-rocketed (granted – a rising tide meant the generality of pension payments increased – but stf what?)
Is faith not a pretty hard thing for a communist to swallow anyway?
This is really victim blaming garbage. You can wring your hands and try and get in front of the negative reaction by perceiving its approach, but it doesn’t matter a nary because you are just blaming innocent victims. If your daughter is raped, would you like to be told that it is her fault because western women are able to dress provocatively? This is a truly abhorrent and disgraceful message and a very perverse way of thinking.
I have had discussed a similar subject with my daughter. Whereas women have rights to walk whatever streets they wish to, to wear whatever clothes they like, common sense and discretion demand that certain streets or places are better avoided, and wearing sexually stimulating clothing can lead to men perceiving women wearing such clothes as sexual objects.
We are under assault in the west generally, through a determined effort to undermine spiritual faith, propagated primarily through the media, but also through the widespread penetration of pornography into the culture. I believe that many people exposed to such dehumanisation of both men and women, and reducing them simply to their animal like sexual urges, no matter how base, will cause them to be unable to form truly intimate and loving relationships, as the model they see in these porno performances is all about maximising personal transient pleasure.
We become what we do, and those who engage in such porno inspired intimacy become I believe spiritually dead, incapable of truly intimate relationships capable of sustaining long term loving partnerships. We of coarse also see it in the suicidal birth rate in so many western countries, not least Germany. So many countries have it seems stopped celebrating the joy of children and family, and taken on the cult of the self, adopting the materialist and consumerist preoccupation. Yes, those leading this agenda have had great success so far. Yet in looking to Russia today, a country submerged by Bolshevism for for many years, arises again like a phoenix, clinging again to Mother Church and as always, to Mother Russia. Perhaps we can take some hope from this example, that resurrection is possible.
Saudi society perceives their women as sexual objects, or they would not be so damn obsessed and preoccupied with covering them up from head to toe and escorting them everywhere.
“What Europe desperately needs now is regime change. And I don’t mean “regime” in a bad sense at all, I mean that in the sense of “system” change.”
What “system” might we replace our current ones with? There are 50 countries in Europe, (and they do in fact include Russia by the way).
Margret Thatcher famously once remarked “There is no such thing as society” – She may as well have said you and I do not exist! Societies and systems are made of people, (think human beings).
You gotta get some soul, and feel with the masses, or the individual. Just one, only one human being, could change your whole life.
At this point, any hypothetical attempt by Europe to include Russia would result in a “no thanks” from 90% of the Russian population (well, it would probably more like “go f*** yourselves”, but there’s a chance they’d go with the more polite version).
thanks Saker: There are many of us who see the demeaning, trivialization and hatred of women as women that is woven throughout Western society and we oppose it. That is our job also to support those women in other countries who speak for justice for women in their own cultures. But our work mainly is here as older, wise women and the system hates us for it—we expect cuts in social security soon( most people on the lower end of the social security system payouts are women) but it will not dim our witness and truth telling. The biggest truth is that this system is as toxic to men as women and is a danger to all living things.
Ever heard of “taharrush gamea”? Apparently this little foible of certain Arabic cultures goes a bit beyond dealing their comeuppances to exhibitionist sluts, which we decadent Westerners simply see as girls having fun. As for “respecting oneself,” I’m sure that if you hide in a garbage can, like Oscar the Grouch, you’ll never be harassed by anyone, ever… Muslim or otherwise. Great idea, Saker.
Gatopardo, the concept that women should have the ‘freedom’ to dress or undress as they like, without regard to its effect on others, both men who they wish to attract (if they are acceptable)and women who they wish to outshine in attractiveness, is, I believe, an example of ‘negative freedom’. Of course most ‘freedoms’ in Western societies are negative because egotism reigns and a sort of Randian libertarianism demands absolute freedom for oneself, without concern for others. Of course women, whether scantily clad or dressed in a burqa, must be free from harassment, but they also need to temper their demand for freedom with discretion. In an ideal society people would be educated and socialised to understand just where their freedom extended, and just how to navigate through the social forest of competing freedoms and rights. Of course the freedom to grope and harass is a very negative freedom that ought to be suppressed, and the perpetrators educated, if possible, to realise the the harm that they do to others. Of course such a society cannot exist under the dog-eat-dog social division and competitiveness of capitalism, where greedy, demanding, uncompromising egotism is the highest virtue.
It appears that my sarcasm is so weak that it can be read as straight commentary. Sorry.
Sorry Leopard-I do take things literally, sometimes, particularly when statements like yours, sans the sarcasm (which is sometimes harder to discern in print alone)are proliferating.
“if you have no respect for yourself you will not get respect from others.”
Having no respect to a woman is one thing (you don’t look at her kindly, you don’t open her doors, if you are not very educated you can try a thistle), but what is the relation with raping her?
If you find a woman not to be modestly clothed, you avoid her, you don’t approach her…
Why is it that there is such a link between any woman without a burqa, and rape? I can tell you : it is islam, not the immodesty of occidental women.
(quote from TheReligionOfPeace)
‘The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.”
So, according to two of the four more revered sunni hadith-compilators, it is written in the Quran that Muslim can rape captive women in front of their husbands. And many Muslim young men, even in our countries, are educated accordingly.
Now, when we come to the video you posted, I believe it has to be understood as : any woman without specific islamic attire will be harassed (and, for many, raped if it can be concealed), while women wearing islamic attire will not.
In France we have had several incidents of a crowd violently tearing-off a scarf over a non-Muslim woman, it appears in mainstream media only when the woman happens to suffer from cancer and be bald. Because only muslim women have the “privilege” of wearing the scarf, and to avoid harassment. Do not you see the perversity of such a reasoning?
Still in France, I can tell you that while the previous generation of Muslim (born and often educated in Maghreb, still with French mid-last-century influence) consider respectfully decently attired non-Muslim women, and merely scorn the girls in bare-midriffs and mini-skirts; younger Muslim men, born and raised in France, DO harass any woman without the specific Muslim attire. I can tell you it is the case even with women in long, ample skirt, ample top with long sleeves, tied hair and no make-up.
There is an immense wave of “unofficial” Islamic propaganda, which all Muslim in the world are submitted to, and which makes them behave like this.
Nothing to do with women possibly under-clothed (which, by the way, I tend to doubt, on a December/January night in Köln, Germany).
Now your getting to the core reason of muslim male attitude towards women. Very salient points which underpin how an ingrained prejudice can be exploited.
Dear TR,
I would like to clarify some of the confusion around this subject that you have brought up.
First, I would quote verses 23-25 from 4th Surah of Qur’an and then quote opinion of Maulana Abual Ala Maudoodi, from his book ”Tafheemul Qur’an”.
The verses are as follows:
[23-24] Forbidden to you are your mothers,34 daughters,35 sisters,36 paternal aunts, maternal aunts, brother’s daughters, sister’s daughters,37 your foster mothers who have given a suckle to you, your foster sisters,38 who have taken suckle with you, the mothers of your wives,39 the daughters of your wives whom you have brought up,40 the daughters of those wives with whom you have had conjugal relations, but not of those wives with whom you have had no conjugal relations, and it is not sinful for you to marry their daughters (after having divorced them); and also forbidden to you are the wives of your sons who are from your loins,41 and it is unlawful for you to keep two real sisters as wives at one and the same time,42 though what happened in the past is excepted, for Allah is indeed Forgiving, Merciful.43 And forbidden to you are the wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war44 ): this is the Law of Allah that has been prescribed for you. With the exception of the above, it has been made lawful for you to seek in marriage with your wealth any other women provided that you keep them in wedlock and not in licentiousness. Then you should pay them their dowries as an obligation for the enjoyment of conjugal relations with them. However, there is no harm if a compromise is made in the dower by mutual consent after an agreement about it; Allah is All-Knowing, All Wise.
[25] Whoever cannot afford to marry free Muslim women, should marry one of the Muslim slave-girls in your possession; Allah has full knowledge of your Faith. You all belong to one and the same community;45 therefore, you may marry them with the permission of their guardians and give them their fair dowries so that they may live a decent life in wedlock and not in licentiousness nor may have secret illicit relations. Then if they are guilty of indecency, after they have been fortified by wedlock, they shall be given half the punishment prescribed for free women.46 This concession47 has been made for those of you who might apprehend a moral lapse without marriage, but it is better for you to practice self-restraint, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Maulana Maudoodi explains the issue around the war prisoners as follows:
That is, those women who become prisoners of war, while their unbelieving husbands are left behind in the War Zone, are not unlawful because their marriage ties are broken by the fact that they have come from the War Zone into the Islamic Zone. It is lawful to marry such women, and it is also lawful for those, in whose possession they are, to have sexual relations with them. There is, however, a difference of opinion as to whether such a woman is lawful, if her husband is also taken a prisoner along with her. Imam Abu Hanifah and those of his way of thinking are of the opinion that the marriage tie of such a pair would remain intact but Imam Malik and Shafi ‘i, are of the opinion that it would also break.
As there exist many misunderstandings in the minds of the people concerning the slave-girls taken as prisoners of war, the following should be carefully studied:
(1) It is not lawful for a soldier to have conjugal relations with a prisoner of war as soon as she falls into his hands. The Islamic Law requires that all such women should be handed over to the government, which has the right to set them free or to ransom them, or to exchange them with the Muslim prisoners in the hands of the enemy, or distribute them among the soldiers. A soldier can cohabit only with that woman who has been formally given to him by the government.
(2) Even then, he shall have to wait for one monthly course before he can cohabit with her in order to ensure whether she is pregnant or not; otherwise it shall be unlawful to cohabit with her before delivery.
(3) It does not matter whether the female prisoner of war belongs to the people of the Book or not. Whatever her religion, she becomes lawful for the man to whom she is formally given.
(4) None but the one to own the slave-girl is given has the right to “touch her.” The offspring of such a woman from his seed shall be his lawful children and shall have the same legal rights as are given by the Divine Law to the children from one’s loins. After the birth of a child she cannot be sold as a slave-girl and shall automatically become free after her master’s death.
The women were NEVER allowed to be raped in front of their husbands as you claimed above.
There’s even difference of opinion amongst scholars if they were indeed allowed to be given to the muslim soldiers if their husbands were also captives along with them. As you stated rightly, 2 of the famous scholars didnt think that their marriage was broken and hence they were haram on muslims.
The conduct of these immigrant men in Cologne was AGAINST Islamic teachings. They were not at war and infact their behaviour would only be considered ZIna bil jabar if witnesses/evidence was available and It carries quite severe punishment under the Islamic law.
“They were not at war…”
Are you quite sure about that?
In any case, what is written in some old book is not really representative of a culture. This is not really about Islam, but about a group of cultures with similar values from the Middle-East, Afganistan and the like.
@ Shaman, Maulana Abual Ala Maudoodi is a XXeth Century scholar who, such as many of his contemporaries, have tried to explain Quran in a less horrendous manner.
But I am sure you are aware that, as two of the most revered hadîth-collectors have asserted the meaning of this verse is, that captive women could be raped (though they didn’t write raped, it is self-evident) in front of their husbands, and furthermore, that it was not “merely” a comment of Muhammad’s but Allah’s own provision, therefore giving it the maximum authority; and as the “doors of the Ijtihad” were decreted to be closed, therefore prohibiting any contradiction, Maulana Abual Ala Maudoodi cannot be considered interpreting Islam, just passing wool in front of non-Muslim (or uninformed, humane Muslim people and there are many of them).
The American Porn industry is dead-*boring*.
The best porn sites come from Leningrad. Everybody worldwide knows this.
To distinguish women according to their passports – that’s ridiculous.
It is more a question of #0.) education and #1.) the generations (both here and there).
Saker, this is not good. Many young teeenage girls have been attacked by foreigners in Sweden and they were not nude. I am a father and I understand how other fathers feel about this.
My response is: send the refugeees back to Afganistan, Kosovo, Africa, whereever they come from. We must protect the young.
“Last but not least, refugees are mostly miserable, lonely, alienated and depressed and they have a lot of a lot of pent up anger and frustration. All this is a toxic mix which can result in all sorts of criminal behavior.”
Is this some sort of excuse?
“If modern Europe did have some real civilizational values it would have been able to deal with this refugees crisis.”
Yes, if we had been wiser, we would have sent them all back long ago. However, you know well that we are being ruled by a toxic elite. We suffer from its rule and we are too weak to liberate ourselves.
I will never be an ally of the misfits that have come to Europe, In Sweden, we see the whole pension system taken down in order to feed the immigrants. My daughter was denied an appointment with her dentist, because the refugees come first. The queue is one year long.
I am sorry, Saker, but you need an update on the real situation in some European countries.
+1
I wanna see all those hooray anti-xenophibia speakers what they will do when we humbly re-direct all the “refugees” to _them_
Hint: Watch how those from the Caucasus get “welcomed” and “cheered” if the come to Moscow.
Let’s direct them also all to French-Canada.
I cannot expect the reaction (but I know how it would look like).
Women in pants:
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I wonder what’s wrong with the pants. The women decided to wear pants to perform certain activities many decades and even some centuries ago. We decided to wear pants because we felt comfortable to perform certain activities and sports that only men performed. Some pioneering decided that they were also able and wanted to enjoy those experiences. At first women who dared to wear pants also were called “whores” and many other horrible things, as the first who dared to ask for the right to vote or anything else.
Men who, really, love women ( women in general, not just those who are very beautiful ) would never see wrong that a woman relocate pants or anything else because they value us as human beings not for what we wear.
When someone tells you what you have to put on what it wants is control you. If anyone ever tells you that you are or look like a “whore” by what you wear, flee there, that people only want to harm you self-esteem for whatever goal.
What’s wrong, even, with the “whores”?
How many “whores” are “whores” by vocation?
How many are for being the victims of men who kidnap them and force them to do it?
Why there are “whores”?
Who makes the demand in the market of “whores”?
Why prositution is not forbiden?
Why in Muslim countries there are “whores” clothes in the shop windows for women to wear them at home and yet no man or woman say anything?
Why immigrant women who are lonely, alienated or depressed do not go around raping anyone?
Why all pederasts are men?
It is that girls who are victims of these specimens were also dressed like “whores”?
Shame for those who blame women for the violence inflicted on them.
Be clear girls, these people are not clean wheat.
Attention to red flags, in the first contacts, even in the minimal details.
Recover your damaged and lost wild instinct that tells you when something squeaks more than a rusty tin door.
It is better to be alone than in bad company. You could be your best companion.
If it is assumed that we are the moral reserve of the West and the East, the South and the North, we are breaded ……. well rather estamos apañadas.
This is why, therefore, not Catholic or Orthodox or Muslim or Buddhist, or member of the Brotherhood of the Holy Reproach,…..I am a communist!
@elsi:
> Shame for those who blame women for the violence inflicted on them.
+100
Wrong movie … :(
I’d like to share this on Facebook, with reference to the article that provoked it… in Spanish (mejor solas que mal acompañadas… gotcha!) My daughter is the kind of woman you see in the pictures you posted. Can you post them and your comment somewhere they can be shared?
Dear Gatoprado, I am too that kind of woman in the pictures, so I posted, but I have not Facebook nor any other similar.
You are welcome to post it wherever you consider it would be useful for people, and especially for women. Feel free.
A hug.
@elsi : You were the one who once sent me hugs a year or longer ago (when I didn’t actually know if you are a woman or a man or whatever, so I replied with a handshake, because the communist hugging and brother-mouth2mouth kissing is really not my thing).
Now I sent you new year’s HUGS and whatever I do, if I defend you, if i greet you or anything, you “work around me” and won’t ever see or quote me.
Same can also be said of Scott.
I have absolutely no friends here.
All the time I get bugged for being too much pro-Putin, for not being a communist. For being too much of a communist or whatever. But those who _should_ help me, ignore it all (with the exception of the really good mods, but it is painful to see that only mod’s SuperUser power defends me, rather than a swarm of friends).
Then there was this Anti-Yugoslavia discussian with an expert-lady who doesn’t at least know when Yugoslavia ceased to exists (she thought it was 10 years earlier), same the other way around with NATO (Slovenia, Croatis).
I with my limited English and lack of patience to re-read for spell-checking errors etc have (no: _had_) to fight all these little wars alone.
For what am I in a community then, if the number of opponents versus “friends” is similar to that as if i would post something into the “I love Ukraine” fb group or some western developers/programming project?
And here 2 pics of me:
That was my lucky time in WesternUkraine: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VaarN1myfm0/Sdq-3-EqOgI/AAAAAAAAACA/y7kCS7w84Xc/S220-s151/Dreampizza.jpg
And here I was wasting 13 years with that unpaid OpenSolaris crap (for a community which really doesn’t deserve it, it was my own stupidity and love/dedication for engineering which made me a fool) :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stiefkind/409011208
So no matter why elsi doesn’t want to hug me and why most others dislike my name (Soviet East-Berlin). It’s all a waste of time. Instead I will really try to enjoy my life, like back then in Ukraine with my ex future wife.
@Saker: Ok, I accept your apology because it is you.
Because this thing _truly_ shook me!
All women I know and ever knew (including my beloved Grand-Ma) disagree with you on the strongest level. And I must say I also traveled a lot (not sure if 35 countries are enough).
I must take blue’s route.
It’s all too much and helps nobody.
Fight the quabblings without me.
And call me back if something worth fighting becomes urgent.
Then I’m available for service.
Martin, I think many here will miss you, but I understand your decision. Dark powers try to make us weak by dividing us. It happens in our subconscious. I think we all feel it, certainly we moderators are aware about all efforts that are done to split us up. Take your time and get strong and happy. There are many places where you can contribute to a better world. Auf wiedersehn. (? Did I get that right?)(KL)
:)
Tnx for your words, Take Care!
I will return after I solved some urgent $$$ and private issues and I need to make some remote snowy winter travel.
This damn Germany makes me sick.
As soon as Rossiya needs me, I’m there.
Всегда готов!
Martin, recharge, refresh and see you back here soon. Take Care.
Martin,it would be better for the whole community (the saker-community) to stay and contribute with your views and opinions
Dearest Martin,
Yesterday I just had time to do my comment that took me a while to look for the pictures and always is hard for me to write correctly in English. When I was moderator, I had the option to correct my comments while i was moderating, but now you are going to see a lot of mistakes. As you saw, I do not comment much or nothing during the week, because I do not have the time, I work from early morning until the afternoon and then have thousands of things to do, besides my sports and look after my mother, who is not all right. Even I do not feel so well lately, after a great disgust with a dear friend.
I have not seen your comment where you defend me and send me a hug and if I had seen, I had sent you a hug too, as I always do. I also sent you a big hug at Christmas, but maybe it was in another thread and you did not see it, and now, with the format of the blog, I find it almost impossible to find. When I was moderating, could best respond to comments directed at me, but now I have neither the time or the ability to read all the comments, forgive me. Also I noticed that you post very late, Martín, just when i am in bed, so it is very possible, that some comments of you went unnoticed by me.
Nothing is further from my intention to ignore or be ungrateful to you, dear, one of the most beloved commenters to me on this blog, as I told you at Christmas, not only for your personal charm, which is a lot, but as one of the few who shares with me the nostalgia for the former USSR, and appreciation for the work of Stalin and communist ideas.
Sometimes I also I have made comments that have gone unnoticed by you, like when I said you, long ago, that you and I should take a trip to Russia together, because I think we would enjoy very much and I think you would come with me happy to bring some flowers to Stalin and Kirov. You did not answer, but I did not take it wrong, because you always talked about your Ukrainian girlfriend and I thought that perhaps you considered it a dare.
Consider that some of us have not mastered English and also social customs in each country, despite being the world so globalized, are far in some respects. I find nothing wrong with making a trip with a friend, not being my partner, and therefore I propose openly without rodeos. Rodeos I do not like even with my partner either. I am direct, perhaps too much, and this is something there are people who can not stand.
Look, I do not think The Saker was referring to me in his comment, at least I hope so, but I do not think that people have made their comments to offend him, but to express their personal stance on what he said in the post, as acceptable like his. In any case, this issue, which would give much to discuss and clarify positions and nuances from all but after reading some comments, very good IMO, something good has come out of all this I, the less, have more hope and faith in Europe and, especially in men, some good and righteous men.
Martin, I also have doubts at times, about Comrade V.V.Putin, some people writing and working on this blog, and even on the same The Saker, and at times I also had wanted to leave from here forever. If I have stayed it has been for the love that I have for most commentators here, for the love that I have for the Russian people and forThe Saker.
Only, even though I love him a lot, I’ll never give him the reason where I think he has not, any more than I do with Comrade V.V.Putin when baffles me. They make mistakes, like everyone else.
I send you a BIG HUG, Martin and, if you accept it from me, also a kiss Russian style.
From your friend, Elsi.
P.S: The trip would be in spring or in September, before the Russians go to their Dachas ( as I was warned by “senior strategist”, another friend, at least from my part, very loved ). We could rent an apartment in Moscow, which could be cheaper than a hotel and would give us more freedom……Imagine how much fun going to the market! There is a moderator who also wants to go. I’d like also The Saker to come, as he said in his “addendum” that had plans to travel there soon. We could do things together and to other separate. I think, while we bring flowers to the grandparents, they can go to mass at any church, but to me, the masses, if they are sung, I really like too……( Just dreaming….)
Hey Dearest elsi,
I cannot thank you enough for your wonderful lovely long letter :)
I must apologize big time at you.
Life is running through so quickly, and it is hard to catch anything, especially in my stupid case where I have no collegues and get absolutely no social feedback, and only had girlfriends who only wanted to use me to get a darn German passport. Sometimes it is simply depressing. All the years are simply GONE.
Then such negative moods make me even sadder for a few days, than I otherwise would be. For this reason I sometimes need to distract myself a few days by going into nature.
You know what I mean, I hear it.
Ice-cold temeratures and snow at -20 degrees are the best thing what can happen to me. I bought me a car yesterday for 91 EUR (no joke, very buggy Fold Ka with its certificates running out this month) and I will go to Bosnia and Serbia for 1 week.
At the moment I’m repairing the engine. The cold weather shall arrive on Saturday.
I borrowed some more $$$ and sold an expensive lens. So it will just work out.
*****It is nevertheless yet even more sad that your beloved mother is not doing well :-(
I wish her all the force and positive engergy of the universe to get strong and well asap!!!*****
As for the comment where I defend you I will tell you per email (because I don’t want to rant against the other one).
If you would like to write me, my address is: opensxce {{{at}}} mail {{{dot}}}ru
Don’t apologize for your spelling errors (very few / your English is amazingly good, don’t diminish your language skills, it’s not true).
Because if anything: I’m the one on this entire blog who really lets the most errors pass through. Because I type everything either directly in FireFox or sometimes in gedit and have absolutely no OpenOffice/LibeOffice at the moment and hence no spell-checker (and at the same time I’m mostly too lazy or too bored for re-re-re-reading everything before hitting [SEND]).
As for the readability of the new style Saker blog (thesaker.is): I agree with you, dear elsi: While the new blog looks much better cosmetically with the cute birds, and while it did introduce new useful structerings in its layout and useful new functionality (e.g. the status line at the bottom pointing at the very latest Mod-authorized/unlocked comments), one of the single most important features appears to have gone by then: Notification emails if soem new post gets into any thread of interest (where we earlier commented on).
Maybe it is only me, but in my case I never received such emails anymore since the new blog went online.
Ok, one can still search for some posts via google, but then one has to remember some exact substrings and must put them in double quotes.
As for why I got offended: I really didn’t know about your feelings. You never told me or I was to ignorant to find your comments.
Yes, sometimes I could not read Saker’s blog every day. Especially in “hot phases” of my OpenSolaris volunteering work. Then I hardly had time to go out once per week for some food.
All I saw was, that you were hugging everyone but did not even say hello to me (but maybe you were also disappinted because I didn’t see some of your earlier comments from December or earlier).
So please apologize and I am really relieved and happy about your message :):):)
Yes, we and some good communist friends or simply Rossiya lovers (I also tolerate other views) can go to Russia this year.
And you are 100% correct that renting an apartment is the only way to go in all modern day Soviet republics incl. Ukraine, where I did this already.
You pay less for a week than for half a dinner at a hotel.
And let’s visit some miraculous Russian Churches!
All the Best to you elsi, the most important problem at the moment is, that your Ma needs to get better soon !!!
A Hug (and what is a Russian KISS)???
Oh well ;)
Your friend, comrade %martin
Martin, I sincerely hope that you and Elsi can continue this fine conversation by e-mail. As this blog is not the best place for personal conversation, any further personal comments here *might* be put aside for Saker to decide on, as it could be considered OT. All the best to both of you. (KL)
Thank you for letting it through, @KL.
But so far neither of us had the other’s email addresses.
We accidently met here.
Point 2: As you saw my post contained improvement hints for the blog (confirmation emails)
Point 3: It was meant as public email, because others got equally invited to join our Travel to Russia, including TheSaker himself (as elsi wrote).
Point 4: TheSaker (ok, of course it is his personal blog, but) also mixes a lot of his feelings with the latest world-developments with some rock-song with some spiritual melodies or all sorts of topics related to various ancient relegions.
I do understand that this is not a dating site, but at the same time I for my humble part think, that friendship building and community travels or user-group discussion meetings shall be possible and not get blocked due to being “personal discussions”.
You won’t believe it: We all are persons (hopefully not robots).
So what’s wrong in from time to time behaving like real human beings, with all their mistakes?
In contrast to others: I can admit it that I am not perfect.
Isn’t this a blog site for community building? If a community then really builds it is wrong?
If you want to build a power structure of RESISTANCE it won’t be enough to keep everybody anonymous. Real power only starts if real meetings start to take place.
Otherwise it will all be over on the day when they shut down the www.
Amén to your accurate statements, especially in regards to the possibility of expressing human feelings here, it was the style of the blog and the blog owner when I arrived here more than two years ago, included compassion for others, camaraderie, friendship, sense of community and other human weaknesses……,
Also you are very right in your comment regarding the construction of a real resistance that would entail, as a reasonable development, to meet in person, at least those who find it feasible, to exchange ideas, strategies or, why not, to travel to Russia, if we are for Russia and Novorusia.
(Your comment has been edited and the full details sent to the Saker – for his approval).
Ok, Martin, I´ll try to write to you on week end.
I do not understand well your email address, but do not worry. I think you could email The Saker and give him your email address and then he could email me to give it to me. He has my email.
But, make me a favour, be careful, Martín, please, do not put here photos of yourself nor your email adress, you are putting yourself in danger. I am aware that there are people here who are opponents surveilling and, I fear that they are some already very inside of the community. My conclusion is that there are some “Communist hunters” around here, trying, for the moment, to discourage us, but perhaps also making a “black list” for the future, when things went really bad and knowing that we are the people less willing to bow, by our convictions and idealism.
I remember now my “friend senior strategist” when he warned me several times “try not to do a Victor Jara” and another time when he said that it “was obvious that I was not afraid and that this was also valued by some but regreted by others”.
I the end it all makes sense…..But not be afraid…I am not.
P.S: Kiss Russian style: I mean those I saw on TV Brézhnev ( well I always noticed that gentleman with the fur cap and so big eyebrows ) gave to others Soviets when I was a child. I think they are three alternately on each cheek.
This is the only Russain kiss I know.
I guess I can cut-and-paste from this site. Thank you.
Regarding communism, I too was a communist, philosophically, theoretically and practically speaking. Growing up as a young US national in South America, I became aware of the image of my country in the Third World as a result of our atrocities in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia (this dates me, I know). Feeling a need to atone for the sins of my country, and sympathizing with the pain of my Third World brothers, I joined the Communist Party, with all of the rigurous intellectual work that entailed. I was hopeful, with the electoral victory of SalvadorAllende in Chile, that socialism could be brought about without violence. That was one thing that communists, Maoists and Trotskyites all agreed on. But that dream was soon drowned in blood, too… again by the international oligarchy and its US stooges I was yet to get better acquainted with. Unlike my Third World brothers I was keenly aware (from nuclear drills in grade school) of the nuclear stalemate and possible holocaust the entire world would be subject to if Empire continued to answer with force any encroachments of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. In anguish, frustration and despair, I left family, school and country to seek answers, of all places, in the United States. Here I was surprised to find that not everybody spent all their time watching football or pursuing the national pastime of drugs, sex and rock-and-roll, but there were a scarce few thoughtful souls who’d actually studied these issues and had arrived at better understanding of historical processes such as the advent of capitalism than Marx himself, due to an unwholesome British influence in his philosophical method which blinded him to the shades and nuances of a long-standing battle between financial capitalism, the usurious and speculative depredations of a rentier-financier class, and productive industrial capitalism, a functional expression of progressive social reproduction that the parasitical overlords of the oligarchical system allowed for their own exploitation, but coopted by obscuring its difference from its monetarist superstructure, through political propaganda and their powerful influence in the educational system of the American Republic, whose history they have rewritten. To put it succinctly, there could be nothing more opposite than the British colonial imperialism of Adam Smith, Thomas Malthus and David Ricardo, on the one hand, and the American System political economy of Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin and the brothers Carey, on the other, which marked a historical break from the other. Yet for the average Marxist these are but trivial variations under one amorphous “capitalist” label, when in fact they are categorically opposite historical forces. Would that our Soviet comrades understood this, but they too were subject to foreign ideological manipulation, specifically by European (mostly British) game-masters who steered the events of 1917 from behind the scenes–then, as always, to stop the emergence of a German-Russian core for the establishment of an Eurasian economic force looking to the Pacific, at the expense of the Anglo-American (by then, after the assasination of Lincoln and the 1879 Specie Resumption Act) Atlantic hegemony. But I digress. My American intellectual friends eventually disbanded, as impure motives often infect even the brightest minds, and I was orphaned and adrift, still trying to make sense of this nasty world and the human race I love so much, but here we are, staring again at the abyss of universal conflagration, in a “clash of civilizations” orchestrated by dark forces who abhor all civilization, and which The Saker poetically describes as Satan itself. I’m not given much to religious interpretation or ideological schema of any kind, but I can see how these come to play a positive role from time to time in man’s successive and apparently asymptotic approaches to an understanding of our kind in the universe. And you’ll forgive me if I go back to sleep now, as it’s four in the morning and I have to go to work in the morning, as all sheeple must, regardless of whether there is or isn’t a tomorrow.
Quick correction to my smartphone rant in the wee hours. The foremost American System economists of the 19th century were Mathew and Henry Carey, father and son, respectively, not siblings. Interesting figures to look up. Mathew, Irish by birth, was a key operative in Benjamin Franklin’s far-flung intelligence network, which coordinated European republican support for the American Revolution, without which it would have surely failed. Other interesting figures from that period were Henry Clay, whose influence in Abraham Lincoln’s economic policy was decisive, and Friedrich List of the “Deutscher Zollverein” and “National System” economics, whom it surprises me that Marx didn’t know better—was his short shrift of the American System a deliberate cover-up, or imposed on him by his London controllers? Also check way back to Jean-Baptiste Colbert’s “Dirigisme” in 17th century France, a forerunner of the same idea, though practiced under monarchical government. The Jacobins, of course, tore all that down, and locked up Lafayette. (“What need has the Revolution for science,” howled Robespierre when he ordered the execution of Lavoisier and other members of the Royal Academy.) Nonetheless, some vestiges of this continuous school of thought survived even into Soviet state planning as a not-so-efficient answer to rapacious bourgeois exploitation of the working class, which was indeed the case. However, mere redistribution of wealth and means of production doesn’t address the fundamental issue of man’s relationship to nature by which expanded social reproduction can be assured beyond the boundaries of specific technological regimes. In limiting the scope of individual initiative and creativity, the Communist model fails to deliver on the universal aspirations we young idealists were so excited about so many years ago.
Further reflecting on the “sins of our fathers” trope, it has become clear to me over time that America is not the sinner, per se, but rather the host of a toxic parasite which has infested it, much like a demon possesses a soul. Reality being the ultimate exorcist, I persevere in the hope that the rest of the world, possibly led at this time by Putin’s Russia (yet no, I’m not exactly a fan boy) can effect a global, fundamental change in the geo-intestinal chemistry which allows this vile organism to exist. Perhaps because its cosmic iniquity is incomprehensible to mere mortals (and indeed, perpetuates itself beyond mortal lifespans, for centuries, at least as far back as Venice’s back-door complicity with the Ottoman Empire in bringing down “Western” civilization, a pattern that repeats itself today) a plethora of internet conspiracy buffs attempts to formulate simple answers, attach common names to it, banal descriptors such as Anglo-Zionist Cabal, Illuminati, Rothschilds, “reptilians,” etc., precisely because its exponents lack any element of humanity other than anatomical features, so the common lay person first realizing this sees it as something alien, otherworldly, eerily awesome, and in some ways it is. This is why so many people resort to passages from Revelations when they come face to face with the enormity of such evil. The knowledge to fight this, and crush it underfoot, is what we must all seek together. When our descendants live and thrive in other planets, they will thank us.
Gatopado, surely this eternal daemon infecting the human soul that you speak of is simply a certain type of psychopathology, that manifests itself in individuals as the psychopath, and in groups as certain ideologies, group psychologies in action, some of which have been cunning enough to dress themselves up as ‘religions’ and ‘philosophies’ thereby claiming Divine and semi-Divine status. These groups pass on their pathopsychology through heredity and epigenetic effects, no doubt, but mostly through indoctrination and socialisation in the group ethos and modus operandi, from birth. The clever groups do not punish apostasy or heresy, or not too harshly, preferring that they operate as a sort of selective process, removing the more universalistic, humanistic, types, and concentrating on the True Believers. They prefer to keep the group small, tightly-knit and mutually supporting, rather than attempting to convert the masses. Mass religions, like Hinduism, developed a system of in-group dominance, the caste system, that ended social mobility millennia ago, and that continues to have huge influence on India’s progress even today. And, under capitalism, as we can see, the dominant elite grows more and more over-bearing and controlling, rapidly impoverishing billions and pushing inequality to unprecedented levels, with utter indifference to the suffering of others, one of the true signs of the psychopath. What’s worse, selective pressures are working again, making each generation of elite psychopaths more hideous than those who came before.
cx/ Specie Resumption Act: 1875, not 1879.
Exactly … what’s wrong with wearing pants. They are comfortable, cover up my legs from the blazing Aussie sun and protect from biting insects.
The adage that women are ‘asking for it’ or somehow less feminine because she is wearing pants is prehistoric thinking.
Lost my vote on this one Saker.
Soviet society was last time when men and women were comrades, then “they” came to destroy all that, with the invaluable help of the Russian Liberals, and we were faced each other, workers against workers, men against women, because, united, all workers, all men and all women, we were INVINCIBLE!
Down with the market liturgy that turns women into objects to own or destroy at pleasure. We are free in a free world and a free universe!
“Women in the Soviet Army”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWeyXb_8p_Q
“In tribute to the Red Army Women” (Red Army Choir, My Army and Bella Ciao)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha0xIdoOIzY
elsi, under Free Market absolutist capitalism, women are commodified like everything else. They graduate from university in greater numbers than men, but within years are almost non-existent in the upper echelons of business, MSM, academia, the law etc. Every day they are bombarded with advertising psychological manipulation to judge themselves harshly alongside models selected for their youth and good looks. Wage gaps between men and women are actually growing, not shrinking. In the end their chance of security depends on their ability to attract a mate, and a rich one preferably. In their old age poverty, even homelessness, is growing strongly. In short women are losers under Market Absolutist capitalism, but so are men, the young, average workers, immigrants, refugees, welfare recipients etc. Everyone but a tiny elite of rich male parasites, the very ones who are manipulating this outrage to foment social tension and hatred. The aim here is not to turn European societies against refugees, but to turn European societies against themselves, between the refugee haters and the refugee supporters. The plan is succeeding admirably. No doubt it has been extensively war-gamed.
elsi, your post is a masterpiece. Really, what is wrong with whores, anyway? They are working girls, in the world’s oldest profession, and they don’t deserve to be dehumanized. They are human beings too, worthy of love and compassion just like any other human being on this planet. They are just trying to survive in their own way, and we ought not to judge. What women wear is completely irrelevant in a civilized society. Should they be condemned for wearing makeup too? Because it makes them look like a “whore”? It’s not illegal to wear short skirts and tank tops and makeup in the West. If Muslims can’t handle it, that is their problem.
The reason Gaddafi never developed Libya’s beautiful beaches for foreign tourists is because bikinis and going topless is extremely offensive to Muslim sensibilities, and he was right to respect the local customs. To each their own.
While Saker’s analyses of certain world events are usually insightful and valuable reading, this post is simply disturbingly retrograde. As you surely know, rape is a crime of violence, not sex. Calling woman prostitutes because they dress (or “quack”) in a certain way (or not at all) or behave in ways that offend traditionalist sensibilities is culturally backward. The violence unleashed in Germany, with refugees the unwitting tools, is a topic separate from the way European women dress or behave. I don’t even want to discuss the (ir)relevance of your wife and daughter choosing not to wear pants, as though this were a sign of refinement and propriety rather than an old-world attachment to outmoded styles of dress.
The fact of horrible imperial violence organized by western capital is undeniable, but this does not explain the violence by victims of imperialism against ordinary people, especially the sexual assault of women. Further, the article characterizes Muslim men as brutes who become violent (and pre-plan attacks) at the mere sight of a scantily clad woman. Why did we not see such attacks with the arrival of tens of thousands of Vietnamese to the U.S. in the1970s, or with millions of Mexican and Central American peasants to the 1980s and 1990s? U.S. women are certainly no more demure than European women, nor are Middle Eastern men more sexually rabid than other men. The answer is that there was simply no political profit to be made in such a riot in the U.S. in the 1970s or the 1990s, but there clearly are political gains to be made by German capital in 2016 by scenes of rioting, raping hordes of uncontrollable Muslim immigrant men.
I will reserve my opinion on the root cause of all this because honestly…I think we do not see the whole picture yet. There are causes and effects, multiple and overlapping, yet nevertheless conflicting too…
I believe that the the Saker is on the right track though with the description of the vast majority of arriving immigrants being poorly educated and thus easy to manipulate (or, rabble-rouse hehe) by any such elements that benefit from this chaos. After all people are sheeple and once you get a few guys excited and high on captagon or whatever, mass-hysteria of any and all crowds almost guarantees the nefarious result.
Sadly there are no solutions to this, as inevitably this will lead to calls for a more heavy handed approach of the security forces, and this backlash again will provoke – someday, someplace; an event which will trigger a violent confrontation. And then the game is truly set, the outcome decided not by how this is handled locally or even regionally, but how the key players are positioned to deal with civil unrest AND external pressures with a broken, highly-divided and multipolar society. In fact, this all is very much like the fall of Rome, the great migratory upheavals of the third and fourth centuries caused a sick and weakened society (that incidentally also was indebted up to its ears – e.g. the silver content of a sestertius was only a fraction of the time of the Julius family…ancient hyper-inflation).
Mac
This essay has too much of the tone of blaming the victim; the conduct, even if coordinated by Western “deep state” of the molesters/rapists is inexcusable. Who has a positive view of migrants and Muslims after this?
Saker has no idea of 4GW; read Lind’s work. As Vox Day wrote, “Martin van Creveld demonstrated in There Will Be War Volume X, immigration is war. If you want peace, repatriate everyone who immigrated from the Dar al-Islam in the last three decades. Otherwise, you will have civil war.”
And
“Eurabia will never happen. This isn’t even the third-most-serious Islamic invasion of Europe. Just remember that if the repatriations are delayed too long, and “kill them all” eventually becomes public policy, it was the multiculturalists and immigrationists who are to blame. Not the ultranationalists. They didn’t want their future “victims” there in the first place.”
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2016/01/immigrant-sex-attacks-in-finland.html
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2016/01/angela-merkel-must-go.html
So the Saker is absolutely wrong.
4GW, the utterances of Zionazi planner van Creveld, who has in the past threatened Europe with Israeli nuclear attack, just shows who is behind this strategy. It is working admirably. The concept of group guilt and collective punishment is truly Talmudic.
Notwithstanding your opinion of Van Crevald, the fact remains that Europeans are and will resist. The success of the barbarians in not guaranteed and 4GW is effective. As Day has written today:
“I think we all know what comes next. The Germans are beginning to fight back against the invaders of their country…Revolution is a process. It doesn’t come about overnight, and it is fueled by actions and counteractions alike. The anti-German “authorities”, who are clearly no longer regarded as legitimate by a significant portion of the German people, can arrest as many nationalists as they like.
They can’t arrest the entire German population, and the minute the “authorities” shed any German blood, they will become the targets of an enraged nation. This was not “a serious breach of the peace”, it was the first real evidence of the crisis of the German state.
This is the inevitable result of multiculturalism and a feckless leadership that refuses to govern in the interests of its people.There are now two, and only two, options remaining: peaceful and democratic nationalism or violent and authoritarian ultra-nationalism.
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2016/01/kristallnacht-zwei.html
See also:
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2016/01/another-coverup-in-sweden.html
This is a good example of why you cannot believe anything that the mainstream media is reporting out of Europe, whether it is about Merkel’s continued “popularity” or the way in which the populations are reacting to the government-enabled invasions of third-world savages.
The European media is only reporting what it cannot cover up. For example, there is massive resistance to the immivasion across Western Europe, far more than in the USA, as thousands of refugee centers were burned or otherwise attacked across the continent in 2015, but the only images that are shown on the media are idiotic virtue-signalers holding welcome signs.
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Some readers of the blog supported Russians who were victims of the policies of the ruling class; for Saker to have evidently such a lack of sympathy for the victims, no matter how foolish, may alienate others, not just me. People of the Donbass are not the only ones who will be fighting back.
Well that was a big pile of garbage thoughts … What are you talking about? Ever been to Thailand or to Jakarta to take a Sunni example? There are more sluts on the street there than in any European country for that matter! It’s very curious to observe that Sunni country are generally the most famous for sex (and I mean the most deviant form of sex) tourism. You can literally buy yourself a ten yo for 4m rupiah in Indonesia as well as Thailand or middle east for that matter.
And you ever been to Moscow or donetsk before war during summer for that matter? Lemme tell you the ******meter is skyrocketing there. Way more than in koln.
Y
We want MOAR muslims here (ohh, otherwise we are xenophobic, wtf)
If women get raped or disappear (for ISIS) – no problem (unless it happens to be your own daughter)
Only let’s stay “politically correct”
ZH: Massive Coverup Exposed In Sweden As Media, Cops Hid Migrant Sex Attacks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-11/massive-coverup-exposed-sweden-media-cops-hid-migrant-sex-attacks
For the first time ever since the coup in Kiev, I completely disagree with the Saker. He needs an update on the situation in Europe.
1. My daughter was denied an appointment with her dentist, because the refugees come first. The queue is now one year long. Try to deal with that if your young daughter is in pain.
2. It is now known the police covered up lots of harrassments of Swedish teenage girls. The scandal is total. Mentioned also in Germany.
3. Somalian/Arabian immigrants are 80-90 percent unemployed and we have riots in immigrant areas.
4. The pension system has beeen totally redesigned. Everybody in my age has been had and it is all because of the new budget costs.
5. I am often the only person of Swedish ancestry in the shop when I buy food and the foreigners look strangely at me. I am the one on the outside and I don’t understand what they are saying. I grew up in another world and I don’t like what I see.
I am sure Florida is a nice place. You have no idea what is going on in Europe and if you want more Muslims, you can take them to Florida.
AT EVERYBODY (well, almost):
When I wrote this article I knew that it would result in a flood of angry comments. Fair enough. But what I find highly annoying, is that most of these comments seem to be coming from folks who either did not read what I *actually* wrote, or read something between the lines, or simply had a knee-jerk reaction to some of my theses but did not bother to think about them. Examples? That I had something against pants. Or that I was blaming the victims of these assaults. Or that the women assaulted were not nude. Or that I used one Saudi diplomat to idealize all Arabs. Since I never wrote any of these things, they are strawman arguments and I shall simply ignore them.
Ditto for empty expressions of disapproval such as “retorgrade” “bullshit” or “victim blaming garbage”.
You are welcome to continue to post that kind of nonsense here, just don’t expect me to reply to it.
Cheers!
The Saker
> You are welcome to continue to post that kind of nonsense here
So much disrespect and hostility, especially also against long-term community members and former Mod’s like elsi – shocks even me (hardcore) through my bones.
Is this TheSaker speaking, which I always believed in, who I trusted blindly and who I defended against these Serbian bloggers for 2 years?
Or has his site been hijacked by somebody (cia?) who wants to discredit him?
You lost me.
Very sad End :-(
Martin, please think before leaving. After 2 yrs, and so many very lovely posts, we’d be sorry to see you go. This is obviously a very very emotive issue, generating anger and frustration everwhere. Take a minute, and please realise how valued your contribution is. Best. Mod PS
Or has his site been hijacked by somebody (cia?) who wants to discredit him?
I assure you that I am the very same Saker and that nobody hijacked anything. I wish I could tell you that I am sorry to shock you, but I am not. In fact, I see “shocking you” (and others) as a very important role for me. What I offer is not comfort or reassurance, but only a point of view from another, admittedly *very* different, prospective. As I said many times, I see this blog just like an AA meeting: take what you like and leave the rest. I don’t expect anybody to agree with me, but I also expect others to allow me to disagree with them. As for what concerns “strawman arguments” – yes, indeed, I am sick and tired of them. I am willing to be vilified, insulted and disparaged for what I wrote. But not for what I never said or even implied.
So at the end of the day the question is simple: do you, and others who think of themselves as open-minded, tolerant and pluralistic have any use for an opinion which is radically different of yours, not to agree with, but at least to be exposed to it. If not, well then, indeed, this is not the right place for you as I will never try to ingratiate myself to you or anybody else.
Europe us dying before our eyes. Some (many) offer all sorts of pipe dreams about how the inevitable can be avoided. I try to speak the truth as best as I can distinguish it. At the end of the day, this has always been just the blog of one regular guy who just tries to be honest (even when all it gets him in return is hostility, condescension and insults). Nothing else. I would never blame anybody for having no use for it.
Kind regards,
The Saker
Saker, your moderators have hijacked your site. Especially TR. I fyou like I can send you copies of my comments from last week, if you find me a single ad-hominem, or disrespectful comment sentence, I will eat my hat.
It is cowardly to moderate, when substantive comments are censored, and adulation is encouraged.
Thanks,
Nasir
No Nasir, you should blame it all on me. In my opinion you were acting like a typical troll and your comments were correctly identified and trashed.
Cheers,
The Saker
This topic seems to have raised the hackles of some.
I like the vineyard because we can all be ‘outraged’ and express our opinion (within mods guidelines). Such diversity is rare and it would be a shame if Saker thought his efforts to bring us alternate opinions was not appreciated.
I appreciate this site and all the comments.. so I hope some long term people don’t leave because of inflammed emotions.
Peace to all.
This psychological warfare attack is going so very well that they must be laughing into their -whatever they drink-at Mossad HQ. The progress of the operation, from the sudden, mysterious, expulsion of Syrian refugees after years of being kept firmly in place, the preponderance of young men amongst the refugees, then the sudden upsurge of violence and harassment of the host populations, by groups of mysteriously well-organised youths, with the police strangely unaware of a conspiracy allegedly organised on social media, and even more mysteriously unprepared to intervene, has been text-book. The one factor that was unpredictable was the reaction of Europeans.
Would they react with intelligence, and see the whole conspiracy for what it is, an attempt to foment civil strife inside European communities, to the Right and Israel’s great advantage. As we saw from the Anders Brievik case, the European Right has joined with pro-Israel forces to pursue an Islamophobic agenda, and here is Israel repaying the favour. Unfortunately too many people are being stampeded into denunciations of all refugees and all Moslems for the crimes of a few. Even more worrying are the calls for collective punishment and mass expulsions of all Moslems, exactly as Zionazi planner Martin van Creveldt advocated. The ease with which people are falling into the trap and becoming tools for the Zionazis is deeply depressing.
You make some bold assertions, but without a single source. Although I don’t adhere to any political ideology, I read a lot of Alt-Right literature and listen to their talks and to suggest the right are colluding with Israel is frankly nutty. And until you point to some evidence, I’ll consider you a fantasist. Most of the significant figures in the Alt-Right are well versed in the activities of the ‘merchants’.
Anon, I’m certainly a fantasist. It’s fantastic! I fantasise about a world not divided against itself, where people are so easily manipulated to hate other victims and ignore the real culprits, for a start. If you read Brievik’s ‘Manifesto’ it is full of admiration for Israel, basically because they brutalise Moslems so effectively, and Brievik quotes endlessly from Jewish and pro-Israeli goy Islamophobes. In the UK the ‘English Defence League’ (the …Defence League, evoking Kahane’s ‘Jewish Defence League’ gave the game away in the usual impudent fashion)was set up by Zionist Jews and their anti-Moslem demonstrations featured as many Israeli flags as Union Jacks until someone realised that it was all becoming TOO obvious. I don’t doubt that it is a marriage of convenience to further the anti-Moslem crusade, and that if Moslems disappeared they’d go back to hating each other, but it is very real.
I have never, never, before been censored on the vineyard and I have been here for almost two years. Your comment explains why it happens now and I guess the moderators protect you. You simply cannot handle criticism and you refuse to reply.
What you need to do is to look at ordinary life in Europe. It has changed a lot since you left. We are going down and we suffer. In some countries it may come to the point that we can expect a civil war (Burgerkrieg). You do not see this from your lofty position in the US. You have a lot of catching up to do.
That being said, I am very disappointed my post did not come through. Never thought it could happen on this blog.
I have no idea what your “censored” post said, but I assure you that mods do not “protect” me. In fact, this afternoon there were 30 or so unmoderated comments and I let most of them through except 3. I have no idea whether yours was part of these three or not. But if you look at what I did allow to pass, you will have to realize that I was hardly busy “protecting myself” against what has been a tsunami or outraged comments.
I just came back from Europe. And the civil war you are fearing now, the Burgerkrieg, is something which European security services have been predicting since DECADES already. And I am absolutely horrified by this. But were I offend people is when I say the following:
1) that there are objective reasons why the situation has degenerated so far
2) that Europe is a US protectorate run by a compador class of collaborators
3) that it is too late to stop the immigration
Now, I do understand that all three of these statements are very painful. But sometimes the truth can be painful.
Let’s take one example. The so-called European values. Such as a resolutely anti-Nazi stance. What does that mean IN REALITY?
That historians are JAILED in the TOTAL INDIFFERENCE of all the doubleplusgoodthinking elites and masses while, at the same time, the European government support a bona fide Nazi regime in Europe!
That when Kosovo succeeds in total illegality and courtesy of US bombs, that is a great triumph for self-determination, but when the people of Novorussia do that LEGALLY that is a “violation of the European security order”!
How many more examples shall I list?
The notion that Europe is just an innocent victim is simply counter-factual. Europe is NOT dying because Europe did everything right. Europe is dying because Europe did everything *wrong*.
And there is a price to pay for that. A terrible one.
I understand that some are offended by what I say. I, frankly, don’t care. This is not a time for niceties. Yes, a Burgerkrieg is next. Is this not the right time to name the causes and the culprits of this situation?
The Saker
Saker, I have always been censored on your site. Your Moderator TR is out of control.
Nasir
Wow! Would you now allow my comment or let me know what was wrong with it? I will eat my hat if your find a single disrespectful sentence.
Nasir
Saker, this comment of yours is clarifying. It should be its own post, rather than buried deep within the comments section. (Start with “I just came back from Europe …”)
Thanks Avarachan, but when even what I write in clear and unequivocal terms (” Nor am I blaming all western women for anything”) and even in bold red letter (” I don’t intend to excuse anything”) is ignored I wonder if there is any point in addressing this issue any further.
This is my last comment on this thread. Rather than to continue to reply to the numerous accusations and condemnations, I rather say nothing further and turn the page.
Kind regards,
The Saker
Well, I can say for all the european readers commenting above, that we will look forward to read further good analysis on the anglozionist empire, sometimes even providing solutions.
About Colone, we have a micro false flag. As 3000 demonstrators against the “Umvölkung” – a nazi term for exange of population – gathered the following weekend, the police met up – marched up – 1700 men strong along side the demonstration, a journalist (the anglozionist are heavily in control of the German media) went through the line of policemen, threw a cracker into the crowd, and left through the line of policemen. This was used as a reason to dissolve the demonstration by force and represent them in the mainstream media as evil nazis.
1. This incident shows how offen false flags are used by the anglozionist at all levels.
2. This shows is why resistence against the anglozionist is so tuf. They simply crush every oppositional organisation as germ and by all means. So dont call Europeans cowards.
http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/01/provocateurs-in-cologne-part-3-making-an-example-of-pegida/
Thanks for a good discussion,
Bjørn
Stick to intelligence, Saker. On this one, you outsmarted yourself.
That’s an incredibly rude, obnoxious and over smart smart reply. It demeans you, and has no effect on the standing of Saker at all, thank Goodness
Dear Isabella,
No worries. The above is exactly what I was referring to when I spoke of “empty expressions of disapproval”. Let them. This is just a the reflection of their lack of fact based and logical arguments. This too shall pass :-)
But thank you, I very much appreciate your kind concern.
Cheers,
The Saker
No, Gatopardo is right. Stick to military intelligence. That is what you do best. Wise up, Saker. Some of your most faithful friends are wondering what you are doing and some of us have contributed the little money we have. Don’t bother to comment on the situation in Germany and Sweden. You do not impress us who live here. You live in Florida, but you could as well have been writing from Neptune or the Moon. You do not understand.
If you think the above is disrespectful, I guess you won’t follow my advice. Pity. I’ve learned so much from you, but it doesn’t have to be a one-way street. Only the weak surround themselves with yes-men (or -women). I still value what you have to offer, but please don’t succumb to your ego. Cheers.
Hi Saker, Provocative articles will stir up emotions, that is what they are for, I suggest you take these reactions on the chin, figuratively speaking of course, and celebrate, with me, the ability to Question More and get feedback!
Yup, you are absolutely correct.
At least I rattled the cages of some otherwise sleeping folks :-)
Wow! Not sure whether to be outraged or to sorta of agree. Regime change needs to happen. The masters of AngloZionism need to face charges of crimes against humanity. Feminism needs to go away, and the family unit needs to make a comeback. All true.
Now here is where I disagree. The German girls are in their homeland doing their thing. We’re talking German women in Germany, whose only real crime is to have a bought stooge for chancellor. I also gather from your logic is that male practitioners of Islam have no self control when it comes to lust. For some reason I doubt that is true.
The other thing I think you are missing. This European invasion is brought to you by those darling AngloZionists to create chaos in the West. Seems it is just another step their delightful psychotic plan for world domination. It is not some poetic reverse crusade.
What I am most afraid of a is a Maidan-style false-flag sniper attack.
I have collected a a YouTube playlist of refugee riots in Europe. All that is needed is a few ISIS snipers on rooftops. Shoot a few police and some twenty protesters. All will be blamed on the police. History shows that the technique works every time!
It didn’t work in Caracas in 2002, in the end.
In that situation it would be different. It worked in Ukraine because all the groups involved (police and protesters) were Ukrainians. The police,thought to be firing on foreigners,might be thought shocking. But wouldn’t get millions of ethnic Germans to attack the police.
Bob, there’ll be shooting, alright, just like in Paris. The Daash operatives secreted into the refugee flow, and the others allowed to freely move between Europe and Syria and Turkey by the so accommodating European ‘intelligence’ agencies, plus local nut-cases in the depressed slums and suburbs, have much more work to do, to further ‘The Clash of Civilizations’, and subvert the EU.
Saker,
This article lacks your usual balance and insight, and conservatism has slipped in via the back door. The other way of looking at this is female sexuality is power, no different to the physical power of men. After a night out, and too many drinks for yours truly, my wife drove home before she had her licence. I was unaware one of my taillights were out and the police pulled us over three times on the way home. As soon as my wife got out of the car in her high boots and short dress, the police politely told her abut the taillight and we were on our way. Beauty is an advantage in life, it gets you jobs, friends and out of police fines. The Burka (or traditional western head to toe dresses) disempowers women from one of their greatest strengths.
My friend, you are blaming the victim here, without dealing with the other side. Yes, wearing a Hijab (or not wearing pants) might earn you some social respect, but at the cost of your individuality. The issue here is that these solutions to female respect all rely on hiding women from men’s view. What Western culture has done (imperfectly) is put the onus back onto males to control their animal urges and become more mature, civilised human beings. In many Muslim countries, men are not socialised to exercise self control over their sexual urges, they have to have the whole society changed to control their lust. Our males can go to a all-day rave surrounded by half-naked young girls in their prime without forming a rape gang. Which is more civilised?
In the end I am not defending Western culture, we’re finished. The sanctifying of the individual over the collective, a society run on greed, selfishness and laziness, it can’t go on. But I hope the society that rises from these ashes remembers to also civilize our males and allow our females to be whoever they are. Respect shouldn’t come from the clothes you wear; the greatest criminals wear suits, and sometime a saint wants to go out dancing in a tight dress. And for me, I feel alive when I go out on a summers day and see beautiful women walking around with confidence, their light bathing everyone around them. Don’t let a pack of savages ruin that.
Disgusting. Your wife whoring herself out in an effort to make up for your own irresponsibility to do basic car repairs. Police could have arrested and raped her, as is common in western countries. And you call that feminine power. Typical.
There is no such thing as “western women’s clothes.” There are only male owned and operated companies that use slave labor to make clothes for western women. Big difference. The only thing that comes close to wmen’s clothing is burka and similar outfits, which are mostly made by women within the muslim/indiginous community, not child slaves.
Your comment accusing my wife of ‘whoring herself out’ is disgusting, and exposes a darkness in your soul. We were at a work function where what she was wearing was entirely appropriate. Of course your small mind missed the whole point of my post, she was not acting like, or being a whore, but her beauty and feminine charm had social power regardless of her intent. As far as police arresting and raping her, that must be where you are from, as we have the best police force in the world here in South Australia. Men who have problems with female sexuality have weak characters, and both ashamed of their failings and scared of the woman’s power. Any society that wants to lock their women behind shuttered windows and hidden under a sheet are frightened of her and insecure in their own masculinity.
For all the West’s many, I fear existential, faults, the project to break social control in preference to individual responsibility was worthy. While we only do the right thing because society forces us to we remain children. Only a fully functioning, mature human being chooses the moral path, if you need religion or thought police to do the right thing you are little more than a trained dog.
Earthrise: Hear, hear, mate! Well said, both posts! And I thank the moderator for allowing the full force of your canine polemic through. Words that bite leave a longer, stronger impression, when the thought they convey is true………
I am fairly confident that you and your wife, as travellers, would adjust your dress and manners to take account of the attitudes and customs of a foreign land, such as the one I suppose Anonymous 134 UTC is from. It seems such adjustment to Australia might be more difficult for him/her. Just a guess, just my impression.
“In the end I am not defending Western culture, we’re finished.” I agree with you there, as well, the way we are going now. But it certainly is not because western women don’t have everything but their eyes covered, and are allowed to drive, IMHO. It is because we have slept too long while our rotten ruling class has plotted against the real interest of all humanity, and is currently carrying out unspeakable crimes against those foreign lands of Islamic culture, among many, many others others. And women everywhere are called on to help shift that tragic direction, to a better one.
I think it is possible to bury the hatchet, and unite on that more crucial level, despite such wide cultural differences. Difficult, but possible.
Cheers Ted. I think you have hit the nail on the head, it is not Western morals or culture that is the problem, but imperialism and domination which are as old as civilisation itself. And as much as I love the Saker, he has missed the mark on this one. He has bought into the polemic that our freedoms are to blame, rather than the bombs we drop. My great hope is the fall of the West exposes the true evil, and humanity uses our failure to move closer to the world we all dream of. All this death and destruction, and the tainting of all that was good about the West, has to be for something!
Earthrise, agree totally.
Thank you for your comments.
No, definitely, your wife is not a “whore”, she wears simply what is used for the times and the place where she lives.
Congratulate your wife for having meet you, this sentence “I feel alive when I go out on a summers day and see beautiful women walking around with confidence, their light bathing everyone around them” makes me think that not only you are really in love with your charming wife but with all the women in the world, because you enjoy seeing us free.
Wish you both many years of happiness together.
Thank you Elsi for your beautiful words. I have three daughters and I have tried to be the man I want them to find. Having their three beautiful souls in my hands, you can understand why I felt the need for the first time to comment on this site after many months being informed by The Saker. There is nowhere in the world where a woman can be herself and contribute to the best of her ability free from social dictatorship than here in the decadent West. And importantly, modern civilisation requires good Feminine skills like empathy, compassion, cooperation and collaboration. The dominance of Masculine skills is the reason we keep resorting to war and domination to solve our problems (when all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail). The capitalist and imperial heart of the West must be cut out, but I will not sit by and see the social advances we have made fall back into the darkness of traditional culture. We are making fully-functional mature human individuals here, and if this project is allowed to progress to completion it will save our species. Trained adult children doing what God and Leaders tell them to do will destroy us all.
Earthrise, your comments are the most beautiful on this thread. Empathy and compassion for ALL victims of violent crime.
“this “lady” decided that going around naked”
Ah, too skinny…
:)
Another false dialectic. ‘Purity’ and ‘choseness’ serve identical psychological needs. It is the desire to set oneself apart; to believe oneself better.
I would not have much fun in a nudist colony. I am way too conservative but I can’t dismiss attendees as exclusively debauched. It’s not my thing but they are not my problem and certainly not my enemies. I do not have a deep seeded need to dress every bare midriff.
Creation begins with destruction. It’s part of the same cycle. The Dionysian impulse is not only consumptive. There is also a giving over which is wonderful to see and must be experienced. It colours the world and makes life interesting. A beautiful woman, scantilly clad, is a joy to behold. An ugly woman, also scantilly clad, has something beautiful within her, although I might not see it so easily. Both stir up something within us which says very little about them and a great deal about us.
Benny Hill had a really difficult time with scantily clad ugly women.
Saker, you have a blind spot when it comes to Islam. There is a discernible pattern of jihadist men abusing non-Muslim women in cultures around the world.
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2014/09/03/muslims-sexually-enslaving-children-a-global-phenomenon/
I recommend that you talk with a Coptic Orthodox priest regarding the Coptic experience with jihadist sexual predators. I attend a Coptic Orthodox parish, and I’ve had many Copts swear to me that jihadists look upon Coptic women as legitimate prey. Jihadists take a special delight in humiliating the daughters of priests.
For instance:
http://www.aina.org/news/20110712201559.htm
“The investigation by Egypt4Christ, carried out under secrecy, exposed a highly organized Muslim ring centered in the Fatah Mosque in Alexandria. The investigation also uncovered a systematic “religious call” plan, where young Muslim males in high school and university are urged to approach Coptic girls in the 9-15 age group and manipulate them through sexual exploitation and blackmail. The plan, called “operation soaking lupin beans” (small dried beans, soaked until they grow in size and are then eaten raw), aims at sexually compromising Christian girls, defiling them and humiliating them in front of their parents, thereby forcing them to flee their homes, and use conversion to Islam as a “solution” for their problems.”
Jihadists use similar tactics in India, with Hindu and Sikh girls.
@Avarachan,
You say: “Saker, you have a blind spot when it comes to Islam. There is a discernible pattern of jihadist men abusing non-Muslim women in cultures around the world”.
Islam is a religion. Rapists that say that they are “Muslims” are not following Islam.
How about those that call themselves “Christians” and then go and rape women? Like many “Christians” did when they had slaves or today go to foreign countries to rape children.
You are putting Islam and “Muslim” rapists in the same bottle.
“According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), the greatest numbers of traffickers are from Asia, followed by Central and Southeastern Europe, and Western Europe.”
http://www.soroptimist.org/trafficking/faq.html
http://academic.udayton.edu/race/05intersection/Gender/rape.htm
These people don’t follow Islam. Still, they are rapists.
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/.services/blog/6a00d83451b71f69e200d83451b72269e2/search?filter.q=rapists
Carmel by the Sea.
Btw… I’m Christian.
Carmel,
It is a good thing not to put different things into the same bottle. But it is not good to confuse the bottles.
You seem to believe that if Islam is a religion, ipso facto it forbids rape. Islam is a religion which does permit rape of non-Muslim women!
“There is no equivalent term for ‘rape’ in the Qur’an. Likewise, there is not a single verse in the Qur’an which even remotely discourages forced sex. In contrast, there are several verses in this book which give the green light to rape and other sexual crimes against women.”
Qur’an 4:24 permits forced sex with captive women, especially of ‘un-believers’. “Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves).
The Sunan Abu Dawud, one of the Kutub al-Sittah (six major hadiths), collected by Abu Dawud comments this verse:
“Abu Said al-Khudri said: “The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess”. That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.”
Hi saker,
I have been reading your work for two years now & I am known to you. I have to say that I agree with you on most things, the above article is a good one but I beg to differ on your assessment of ‘most’ refugees based on your experiences in Switzerland. I do not doubt that the current immigrant crisis is engineered, new shoes, smart phones, mainly young men etc, but also has the dimension of resulting from endless interventions by the hegemon with Europe’s keen involvement.
I would like to say here that I first worked with asylum seekers from 1985 from within government ongoing well into the late 1990s & then into the mid 2000s within NGOs, my assessment is that on the whole the people that I dealt with were fleeing political persecution & were not merely economic migrants, they were seeking haven for themselves & their families. In general I found that any depression or other malaise happened when they were harmed by government policy & were unable to reunite with their close family members. Some had sat waiting in appalling conditions in refugee camps for up to 10 years.
I would like to add that this different opinion that I have does not mean that I do not differ in opinion with the scope of your article. A big mistake that Europe made was to accept all comers & not properly assess each person & family based on UNHCR conventions.
thanking you
As to examine each asylum-seeker’s candidature, it is really necessary I agree, but one difficulty is, that present-day fake refugees are taught a tale of persecution, on which they obstinately stick, and they can; while real refugees, as you say, are often morally and physically broken, and often, not equal to stand this examination, and asylum is more likely to be denied to them.
Germans in Germany are not offended by public nudity. They just aren’t. Are they supposed to change their attitude now because Muslim immigrants find public nudity offensive?
there is also a different way of looking at it :
“If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck“
from the words of a great humorist : http://i.imgur.com/GIWwD.jpg :)
but i agree with your account : most of these migrant are economic migrant of lower social status in their own country … ie: rejected by the system they were unlucky to be born into and reject it in kind in all its forms … and live in Survival mode ___ as it is the only thing they know how by tricking the system .
however , it seems to me that this whole story is just another controlled chaos operation , to make the target population more amenable to swallow the future tipp or as i like to call it Europe under “Protectorat” of the US
just an after thought : what is the difference between a western migrant and Non western one ?
the words used to define them : One is a Nice “Expat” , the Other a Damn Migrant … to ponder
from RT about sexual harassment in large gatherings in Arab countries supposedly
https://www.rt.com/news/328561-taharrush-germany-assault-collective/
I think Borat should be invited at this stage :-) How come you not mention in your post the pathetic and tragic suppression of sexuality in Muslim countries? We do not have any issues on that matter with Asian migrants as it turns out.
I am from Greece and i live near the port of Peiraias where the authorities unload all these people. Most of them are not syrians and definitely not women with children. The vast majority are afghans, pakistanis and other people from North Africa etc.
They seem to be completely uneducated and illiterate people, with rude manners and many look like criminals, crooks, drug smugglers, bodyguards and mercenaries. I would be afraid thinking that all these people are living freely near me.
(Un)surprisingly, the “average joe” in Greece and Europe fail to see this and they believe the false mass media narrative of ” syrian refugees”. If you try to challenge the official narrative, many people will call you “racist” and “fascist”.
The authorities of EU have decided to open the gates for their own reasons. Criminality and living standards will plummet with mass invasion of these people. The elites plan to transform cohesive European countries into a new USA, with all the ghettos, ethic rife and violence.
Since 2000, vast numbers of third world people have illegally entered into Greece. Murders, crime and violence by illegal third worlders has skyrocket. Even rape attacks against underaged girls have been reported. A notable case was the attack and rape of 13 y.old Myrto in the island of Paros by a pakistani illegal immigrant. The media stayed silent on this case.
Things will only get worse and worse. It is impossible to stop this trend in EU and with an economy based on capitalism.
Only solution is a popular revolution, withdrawal from EU-EUROZONE-NATO, disconnect with IMF and WTO, nationalisation of the commanding heights of the economy and the implementation of policies based on socialist, soviet style economics. WIth that way, a state would effectively control all businesses and will stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
These so called “attacks” demonstrate the following:
1. Germans (US and Europeans also) don’t care about their own laws or justice. All that has happened so far are accusations that have no motive, means and opportunity. No trials, juries, court justice. All that has occured is mass reporting and allegations of mass rapes.
All videos attempting to depict “mass rapes” is merely showing fireworks displays. Other videos show two girls fighting in public. It reminds me of the American Ferguson riots where trolls would post pictures of riots in Bangladesh, making it appear like it was in Ferguson. Allegations + no apparent video evidence + impotent hot air = “European values.”
2. European security institutions are still completely corrupt. Despite the latest product being produced by the conspiracy industry (invasion, complicity, coordinated attack, and other garbage) the reality is that the more resources and money spent on US/UK/Euro security institutions, the less secure they become.
This is because the authorities are inherently risk averse and don’t want to take chances because it might affect their pensions in some way. Otherwise they are by far more concerned about appearing busy than actually doing anything. Mass surveillance is the reason they couldn’t stop the “attacks” (if they even did happen) because the amount of data collected is impossible to analyze and dilutes the detection of positive correlations.
The event probably went like this: Intel officers play musical chairs to avoid taking the blame and appear not responsible. Rank and file has drunk orgies and gangrapes each other (like Belgium).
3. Germans are weak and hysterical. None of what has been shown goes anywhere beyond celebratory. Arabs and others like them shoot guns and fireworks in public. But that didn’t stop the German public from running around with their thumbs in their mouths, pants around ankles, sobbing about nonexistent attacks while others were merely having an uncontrolled fireworks display. Everything else is an accusation that must go through the justice system before judgment.
4. Germans (and Euros) are hypocrites. The German stooges (including the public that votes for it and puts up with it) have been silent while supporting US invasions, initiating corporate free trade land grabs world wide, use slave labor from all over the world, import “untermensch” slavs and “dark skins” to do their dirty work domestically. But what do they do when the people they displaced and killed move to their country and set off fireworks? Why, sob and squeal about how they’re being oppressed, of course!
5. Germany (Europe) will not survive a serious, actual attack. Their police are corrupt, their military is laughable. Their populace is afraid of fireworks. If ISIS, or similar groups, actually attack them, they will fall like you wouldn’t believe.
An attack similar to Paris attacks will promptly put Germany into a military dictatorship (Germans don’t care about their own laws) which will damage their domestic economy. It will cause backlash against Muslims (validate extremist claims) and cause lasting damage through hoaxes.
If ISIS copies attacks similar to Nigeria’s MEND, Germany would likely be destroyed overnight.
6. Germany is already dead. Dead language. Dead culture. Dead people. No wonder they are hardly having any children. There will be many more “refugees” coming. Typically Arabs and Muslims will send their most capable children (males) out to targeted countries to establish a foothold, then move in later (or send money home). Arabs will simply have more children than the Germans, and the Arabs/Africans know it.
7. German citizens cannot do anything to stop “refugees”. Despite the hot air, bluster, and symbolic marches, vigilantes will not do anything effective. They will probably torture and kill hundreds or even thousands of “untermensch”…ones that they can afford to attack that is. They will set mosques on fire, etc. Unfortunately for them, such attacks will likely produce a functioning insurgency in their own country. See point five for details.
In conclusion, Germany is a zombie country. They are a shameless US colony. They are a convenient customer for Russia, but that’s about it. There will be more bluster and protests, but they will be ignored. There will be more hysteria and no one will care. There will be vigilante attacks that will be worse than worthless (will cause heavy retaliations).
The Germans might as well just go for the mass suicide option, just like they did during the end of their third reich. No point in suffering unnecessarily, and they certainly don’t want to be held accountable for their complicity in US war crimes and other atrocities.
I find stories of Europe’s demise a little premature. There is certainly some well-deserved blowback coming their way, and the cost of being a US vassal state will become too high to bear. Once the US Empire has been defeated and peace returns to Syria/Libya/Iraq/Afghanistan, there is nothing illegal about sending the refugees back home. Same as the Palestinian refugees throughout the Arab world; denied citizenship and work rights in anticipation that they will return home soon. There is no reason Europe can’t do the same thing, offer people refuge until their countries find peace. Once the Empire is defeated, the Western economies will be shot and the economic pull factors will switch polarity and people will gravitate to the new centres of economic activity. European multicultural values will make some of the hard choices more difficult, but Europe is not the New World, and doesn’t share our experience with cultural integration. Once the US is defeated, if will be easier for Europe to make a break from the mistakes of the past and join Russia and a re-civilised Middle East in a brave new world.
Earthrise, yours is a very optimistic scenario, and I hope it works out. The alternative, that we are at present being force-fed, is the archetypal Zionazi project, ‘The Clash of Civilizations’, ie WWIII between the captive West against Islam, Russia and China, to the global overlords’ benefit.
Actually what seems to be planned is following:
– US+stooges will lose in Syria / ME, Ukraine, South China sea
– Russia is the political and moral winner, China the economic
– “Christ” makes a reappearance
– All countries unite under UN in the NWO and live happily ever after in a Orwellian (or communist) utopia a la 1984
The problem with the analysis of this site is that the author is pro-Russia / anti-West biased and is selling Putin/ Russia as opposing the NWO, whereas Putin/ Russia most likely only play their role in the fake dialectic fight (similar to the Marxist fake dialectic or the cultural Marxism fake PC dialectic). The Zionists/masons/illuminati came from Russia (khazars), moved through Germany, occupied the UK (BoE), made the American and French revolutions and returned to retake Russia in 1917. So Russia + China (outsourcing partner with unprecedented know-how transfer for free; and a post “communist” regime) is controlled opposition that is determined to “win”, while the US + EU are determined to “fall” at least in relative terms, so that the NWO is a union of equals. That’s all.
@Adler
1. “The problem with the analysis of this site is that the author is pro-Russia”
It’s not a problem, it’s a solution.
2. “All countries unite under UN in the NWO and live happily ever after in a Orwellian (or communist) utopia a la 1984″
We have been living in a New World Order for the past 25 years.
3. ” “Christ” makes a reappearance”
You’re using the name of our Savior in quotation marks.
4. “Zionists/masons/illuminati came from Russia (khazars), moved through Germany, occupied the UK (BoE), made the American and French revolutions and returned to retake Russia in 1917”
Khazars didn’t come from Russia. Russians fought with the Khazars since they undertook endless wars against Russian towns. Knyaz Svyatoslav, a Grand prince of Kiev, expelled them in X century After which time, Europe took it upon itself to initiate multiple wars on Russia.
http://pushkinskij-dom.livejournal.com/172158.html
I must say that you and your ideology is a part of this continued war on Russia.
PS When I was a kid, I had ridden a horse named Adler, but you no doubt is referring to the Reichsadler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsadler
Are you saying that German statehood and Nazi ideology are the fruits of the same tree: khazar khaganate?
You do not quite understand what I am talking about, so I will try to have some brief explanations:
1. The meme that Russia is opposing the NWO / the West’s Empire is probably just that a meme. Why? Because both sides are controlled by illuminati/masons behind the scenes, which consist of a lot of “jews” (90% of today’s “jews” are of khazarian origin as it seems – ashkenazi, so they started out of Russia).
2. The people striving for the NWO have been working at least since the start of the illuminati in 1776, who have taken over the masonic lodges everywhere. The founding fathers of the USA were masons in 1789 they adopted illuminati signs as their state seal – visible on the dollar note. So the West vs. Russia / China dialectic is false or the AZE includes Russia and China as well (Russia since 1917). The founder of the illuminati was at the Jesuit order before that and the Jesuits seem to have inherited the Templars (together with Knights of Malta). Parts of the Templars founded the Scottish rite of freemasonry.
3. Probably it will be someone who will pose as the savior that appears to put end to WW3
4. Khazars are the forefathers of the Ashkenazi, were conquered by Russia. Part moved out, part stayed.
5. I have no ideology. Just facts and understandings (maybe wrong). Adler = bigger bird of prey. Double-headed eagle = sign of imperial power from ancient Egypt or even older times (Sumeria?) and probably of dark power / occult. Nazis were financed by the same jewish masons that financed and parts of them participated in the Bolshevik revolution.
Merkel prpooses a law that says immigrants who commit crime, can be sent home-unfortunately, Uk has tried to do this, but immigrants have appealed to European Court of Human Rights quoting their right to a family life, and have won their case. European justice system is downfall of its own society.Plus huge costs of trying to send them back.
I also suspect collusion and advanced planning–Gladio and Arab Spring style–to the event. Chaos precipitated in Germany makes Germans seek government protection–to the benefit of the ruling class–and the CIA has a multitude of tools and assets to facilitate such chaos. The emigrants themselves may be tools in the hands of the Elite.
I agree with most commenters about a sinister background of these attacks. If might have been planned along the lines described in the book of Adrew Korybko, with a small core of agent provocateurs. I think not just the German intelligence agency is a stakeholder in digging up the truth behind this.
About the sexualized nature of western Europe: true or not, but this is the world we grew up in (anyone under 70 at least): It was actually a lot more liberal in the ´70! I think technology has given it more profile towards non-western audiences. For more than a decade, society is moving in a more prudish direction, driven by a silent coalition between fundamentalist protestants and radical feminists, many of whom have spinned their webs in official positions, sometimes quite high-up. Sweden is the worst example. Femen is only pseudo sexy (if at all)! Radical feminism, along with other SJW currents still has the historical label of ´left wing´, while in fact it is ultra reactionary and a virus infecting the left.
Although the gay issue is pushed beyond limits; this is a ´signature issue´, a fake group identity very useful in anti- western social propaganda, the percentage of gays has not changed at all.
Personally, I find the excessive attention for celebrities and (passive) sports much more worrisome signs of cultural degeneration
The political correctness SJW movements of feminism and multicuturalism have in this case however, completely shorted out, leaving the playing field to pegida and the German propaganda. Just like with charlie Hebdo, the political consequences will probably only become clear after repeat attacks.
The mass movement of third world people seems to be staged by the deep states of the various western states. In 2014, only 30,000 people entered illegally into Greece through Turkey. After the election of Tsipras in March 2015, a massive surge in illegal immigration happened and it was all encouraged by the syriza government as well as Merkel and EU. While the media automatically called these people “Syrian refugees” and publish staged pics with children and families, only a handful of them were of Syrian extraction and just a 5% were children with families.
The so called refugee crisis is staged by governments and secret services.
Furthermore, It is not a coincidence that the recent terrorist attack in France happened during the “refugee crisis”. The Paris attacks seem to be a false flag operation. The contradictions of the official narrative are too many.
The Paris attacks only have caused fear into peoples hearts, it would also give corrupt authorities more dictatorial power as it happened in France with the unconstitutional implementation of martial law.
We have a “GLADIO B” now. The so called terrorists in the 1970s were “leftists” now they are “muslims”.
While the authorities continue with the policy of open borders, they also push for surveillance and martial law measures ! This is contradictory. If the states want more security, why don’t they close the borders and deport illegals ?
The elites want to destroy social cohesion and to divide and conquer by allowing criminals and crooks to enter and by implementing false flags operations
As for the cologne attacks, i believe it is true as most of the “refugees” are illiterate and have savage attitudes. Again, the authorities have managed to put fear into german people. Sooner or later, it would have happened. It has happened also in Uk with the pakistani grooming of teenage white girls. British authorities and the media tried to cover up this case.
Well spotted! It is called cultural Marxism. The now 3 attacks in Paris were false flags, but also hoaxes. I wonder if the Cologne story (obviously a staged one) is not fully contrived out of thin air – it surely is possible nowadays. Reasons for this:
– it was reported only 5 days later
– videos show only firecrackers
– there are not even 1000 people in the square at the station (I know it – it is small and cannot accommodate so much people easily), let alone 1000 Arabic rapists
– the report, which reflects poorly on the establishment, came from an establishment source – Reuters, owned by Rothschild among others
– who counted the number of “rapists”? 1000 sounds a too round a number to me.
But I may be wrong about the hoax in Cologne this time around. It would remain only a false flag.
this is but the latest variant of the gene sharp’s destabilisation technique, using non military *swarming hordes* to create mayhem and eventually even bring down the targeted govn.
in tam the mother of all color rev., the *horde* was disgruntled students/workers , in tibet, myanmar it would be *swarming monks*, in ex yugo, hk it’s students/workers, in the arab spring its assorted man in the streets, in this latest variant its *swarming refugees*.
but the *star players* in all instances were …agent provocateurs !
the provocateurs role were crucial, its to turn a *peaceful* demo into a bloodbath , the job would be completed by the msm, ngo, the 5 columinist *humanrights activists* etc, these witting/unwitting tools of the *empire of chaos* would put the entire blame on the govn’s *brutal crack down on peaceful demonstrators*.
does this rings a bell…tam, tibet, myanmar, ex yugo, venezuela……ukraine ?
in such situations the police ,especially in liberal euro land, is in a delimma.
when i read about the apparent inaction of the cologne police, i couldnt help but recall the bloody riots in tibet 2008 and the bloodbath in xinjiang 2009.
on both occasions the police were lambasted for their sluggish reaction to the violence , even eyewitness accounts from tourists mentioned the apparent absence of policmen when the riots erupted.
fact is, the ccp was anticipating foreign controlled agitations timed to disrupt the two major events .
police were most likely ordered to keep a low profile and max restraint towards the *demonstrators* antics. by the time they woke up from their slumber the *peaceful demo* had turned into a bloodbath !
but what did u read in the wonderful western msm ?
*brutal crack down on peaceful demonstrators left prolly thousands dead* !!!
*damn if u do, damn if u dont*. !!
dont sniff at such *unconventional warfare*, it has already brought down dozens of countries starting with ex yugo, the latest victim being ukraine.
while its touted as *non violent* , in reality there’r always agent provocaterus infiltrated in the mobs ,waiting for the first chance to light the spark and turn the flame into an inferno.
tam, tibet, xinjiang etc showed clearly this *swarming mobs* agitations were anything but *non violent*.
in fact a *non violent* charge from women, children, students, refugees….is arguably even more deadly then a military assault, cuz it renders the defenders practically defenceless, the policemen on site became pertrified bystanders , *how dare you shoot at unarmed women, children, refugees* ? [1]
germany is chosen cuz its nazi past renders it doubly vulnerable, imagine the headline,
*neo nazi policemen killed unarmed refugees in cologne* !
[1]
only that *exceptional country* has such *privilege* !!
Exactly, denk. Gene Sharp et al, and, as you say, these swarming movements of manipulated fools always end in violence, whereupon the target regime collapses, or is violently overthrown. In Beijing, the prototype Colour Revolution, in 1989, the Chinese authorities used unarmed police and soldiers to peacefully clear Tian An Men Square, whereupon the Hong Kong triad thugs, Taiwanese and other intelligence killers commenced shooting unarmed soldiers. They probably knew that it wouldn’t work, as it did later in Belgrade, Tbilisi and Kiev, but it produced a few hundred useful dead idiots amongst the student dupes, endlessly useful in subsequent agit-prop. To add further chutzpah, they invented a totally fraudulent ‘massacre’ in Tian An Men Square itself, that the Western MSM vermin loyally regurgitate to today.
Correct, what we’re seeing is a kind of war. It’s an attack upon a country, very much like what happened in countries such as Ucraine, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and other color revolutions. In those countries it was easy to find nationalists, disgruntled workers, students, ethnic minorities, or other groups to fracture the country.
The difference is that the Northern European countries are pretty stable. All in all, the people who live there are pretty happy with the place they live in. So if you want to overthrow government you have to import troublemakers to get your revolution going.
yes Mulga, Passer by….
the fukus cabal failed to take down the chinese govn in the tam destabilisation, but they achieved its secondary objective, the stigma of *they shoot students dont they* stick with the ccp until these days.
you no doubt knew about all this, but for those uninitiated , here’s how the despicable western msm, including the *reputable* bbc, cover up real massacres by pro-Western regimes in Asia, then seems to have excelled itself by inventing a phony massacre by the chinese govn.
tam revisited…
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2011/07/01/commentary/black-info-and-media-gullibility-creation-of-the-tiananmen-myth/#.VpUbWk9K8bV
u might also be interested in how fukus operated human trafficking rackets at the china/india/nepal border
for the sole purpose of demonising and destabilising china…
http://web.archive.org/web/20080428083155/http://www.peoplesreview.com.np/2006/141206/detail/n2.html
http://tibet.ca/en/library/wtn/9415
denk, my father, a journalist of the now near extinct honest type, knew within days that the ‘Massacre in Tian An Men’ story was a lie. He found (pre-Internet) eye-witness reports of the peaceful clearing of the Square from Italian press eye-witnesses and others. Yet his paper and all other Western MSM concocted the ‘massacre’ lie and regurgitate it to today with the usual 100% Groupthink.
To top it off, our then Prime Minister, Hawke, a total slave of Israel and the USA (although mellowing a bit today, at 85)blubbered in typical fashion, in Parliament, about ‘students, run over, in their tents, over and over again, by APCs, until they were reduced to slime on the Square’s stones’. I kid you not! And they lie to today, despite numerous other eye-witness reports, and US Embassy reports leaked to Wikileaks that show that there was NO massacre ‘in the Square’. There’s really not much uttered in public life in the West these days that is NOT a lie, but this is a really BIGGIE!
mulga,
in a chart of top hundred lies of the centuries, the *west* hogs them all , imagine that !
amongst the top ten lies includes the infamous *chinese invasion of india , 1962*, *genocide in tibet*, *genocide in xinjiang*, *tiananmen massacre*, *mao murdered xxx millions of his own people* etc. etc.
even now they’r churning out torrents of bs like *chinese cyber warfare targets murkka*, *chinese aggression in scs, ecs*, *china bullies jp, ph…*, *china is violating fon in scs*..
when it comes to lying , the sky is the limit to the unitedsnake led *western democrazy*, some times i wonder if lying comes with their genes ?
this article is a bit dated but it gives a good pic of the kind of hate campaign mounted against china.
its just the tip of an iceberg still i highly recommend if u havent read it.
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-west-perfecting-its-techniques-to-hurt-china-by-andre-vltchek/
denk, Andre Vltchek is a favourite writer. He has worked with Chomsky, and knows a lot about Indonesia (amongst many other places), the genocidal death-squad state under the US favourite, the butcher Suharto, over whom our political toads groveled for years, even as the corpses piled up in Timor, Aceh and West Papua. Our local MSM is dominated by the Murdoch cancer, and occasionally I see a copy of their flagship the ‘Australian’ (which they have the audacity to claim is ‘The Heart of the Nation’, which, if true, would be a sign of utter moral and spiritual corruption)in a cafe or somewhere. Donning surgical gloves, I peruse its contents, and am never disappointed by the sheer depths of evil, of hatred, of vilification, of mendacity, of groveling worship of Israel and the USA, that oozes from the pages. I very much fear that the incessant brainwashing into the habits of hate, fear, greed, chauvinism, ignorance and mass stupidity that this evil rag, and its even more rabid tabloid equivalents in the Murdoch sewer, and the uniformly hard Right talk-back radio asylum, have inflicted on this society for decades, has tragically perverted the character of the country over the last forty years. That the monstrous, diabolical, evil that wrought this disaster on our society, and others, Murdoch, still walks the earth, like an animated cadaver, is a source of deep angst. I do pray, from time to time, for a just and vengeful God, so that he will get his just desserts in perpetuity, but without much confidence.
we both know that when it comes to *human rights*, china, warts and all, looks like an angel when compared to unitedsnake’s buddies like indonesia, india, turkey, saudi, columbia. etc.
the snake itself is of course the top abuser in the world.
but u wouldnt find these in the msm, fukus and its poodles heinous crimes were virtually non events, studiously ignored and suppressed, whereas every infraction in china, whether real or fabricated, were magnified, distorted and broadcasted to the world 24×7.
over the yrs fukus have perfected the art of *robber crying out robbery* into a science !
its a futile excercise trying to educate the sheeples, they’r so brainwashed that so many murkkans have the gall to lecture the chinese on human rights, even when their govn has been the worst abuser by far.
cant blame them too, cuz they’r being kept in the dark and fed bushit all day….like mushrooms !
truth is irrelevant when u could control the *world opinion*.
black is white, war is peace, these are the new normal.
arundhati roy on western hubris….[my fav quote]
*Exposing Western hypocrisy – how much more exposed can they be? Which decent human being on Earth harbours any illusions about it? These are people whose histories are spongy with the blood of others. Colonialism, apartheid, slavery, ethnic cleansing, germ warfare, chemical weapons – they virtually invented it all. They have plundered nations, snuffed out civilisations, exterminated entire populations. They stand on the world’s stage stark naked but entirely unembarrassed, because they know that they have more money, more food and bigger bombs than anybody else*
Denk, that observation by the wonderful and crazy brave Arundhati, must go alongside Harold Pinter’s Nobel Prize for Literature acceptance speech. Given by video link as he was dying of oesophageal cancer.
mulga
so many anti imperialists have left us in these past few yrs.
off hand i could think of chalmers johnson, harold pinter, chavez, harry browne, charley reese….
somebody ought to do an autoposy on these wonderful people if u ask me !
The future multi-polar world, currently led by Russia, is such a source of hope to me and millions of people inside the West. We are a spent force, our youthful energy is gone, and the exposure of the evil at the heart of our civilisation has dropped us all into a deep torpor. We are now little more than spectators enjoying the last days before the Fall, the defeat of the Left was our last gasp. Setup the deckchairs and pour another beer, the ride back down is going to be quite the show.
But reading all the commentators from the other civilisations, you all latch on to the lack of morals, the ‘godlessness’ and the debauchery of the West as the cause, I disagree. You all act like power wouldn’t corrupt you if you were in our place, that your civilisations are somehow superior in this way. Wrong, absolute power corrupt absolutely, it attracts and rewards evil people. One of the main reasons the West rose to this height was the power of our ideals; individual rights, democratic principles, freedom and human dignity. Unfortunately our success was also our downfall; money, power, corruption killed the West, not morality. Morality will not protect you from this kind of power, in fact it is a weakness they exploit.
Like you all I look forward to the fall of the West, the evil has outweighed the good (quite a long time ago). But don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. In your determination this should never happen again, remember it is power not culture that is the source of evil. Every one of your cultures has been irreversibly evolved by Western philosophical thought, and the evil that brought us down predated the West and will continue to live after we are gone unless it is recognised. It seems your recourse will be organised religion and strong cultural control; any centralising of power will yield the same bad result. I believe the path the West set us on is our future salvation, individual responsibility and the maturation of Self. Power broken up into six billion pieces so we can all safely wield our share. Blaming the West while missing the true evil will only ensure this all happens again with one of you as it’s host.
Excellent post. You said it better than I could. Spot on.
Too much of westerners flagellating themselves over their real achievements, in a lot of places, and too much willingness to throw the good out with the bad.
Be careful of cultural relativism. I like what China is doing with space exploration, mining helium 3 on the moon (preparing to, at least) and the fact that they are evolving, not sticking to the errors of past centuries that made them vulnerable to the Brit, Scottish and New England clipper ships bringing opium.
Meanwhile, we are devolving, but previously evolved quite a bit! Don’t forget that a Japanese airline pilot is deploying a massive machine that would not exist save for the Florentine Rennaissance and later developments in Europe and North America.
Be very thankful, people, that some backward cultures are very, very weak. If they were powerful and able to project that power widely, their evil errors would be be truly horrible for their victims.
I am not excusing the Empire whatsoever. But you are correct. Something older and more evil, the oligarchical principle, has parasitically co-opted science and technology and wealth that it never created and that it sucked from its western host, and those benefits of human progress it once bitterly opposed, but was forced to adjust to, at many points over the centuries, it now uses to carry out the same old evil selfish imperial impulse to total hegemonic/demonic power.
I believe Saker is right on the big picture, and it goes something like this:. That unseen enemy at root cause of trouble in Cologne New Year’s Eve needs to be restrained even more urgently than mobs of their creation threatening European women. It is more urgent and just, and effective to bring about a just economic order which allows Mexico to develop, than it is to “seal the border and let them scream”. Yes, the Border Patrol, in the meantime, but that’s just a sad daily chore. Peace through development, in Mexico and worldwide is the political “war” to be won.
I must know you, Ted. Your train of thought is familiar, similar to mine. Earthrise, too. Cool.
The confused state of contemporary Western female identity has some large role in the poor state of gender relations in the Western countries. It also has a lot to do with the very pitiful protests by feminist elements in response to these sexual assaults. However, it is a minor factor at best in explaining why these assaults took place. As other commentators have pointed out, similar sexual assaults occur in Muslim-majority countries where presumably the women (including the non-Muslim ones) dress and behave in a more conservative fashion. The major factors behind these assaults are twofold:
1. The ineptitude and complaisance of European authorities vis-a-vis multinational capital and their US overlords who are ultimately responsible for these migrant movements.
2. The primitive mentality (which the Saker himself described in his post) of the largely lumpen elements that compromise these migrants.
As for the fate of the ethnic European populations, I would not write them off, at least not all of them. After all, in 1920, I am sure that lots of people thought that the Anatolian Turks were finished and would only be left with a little rump state after Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Italians, etc had taken the rest of Anatolia. While large parts of Western Europe and Scandinavia might end up as quasi-beyliks in a few decades, I doubt that countries like Poland, Hungary, or Serbia will be submerged by a demographic flood from the Middle East. It is primarily a matter of will and cojones. Some of the Europeans have more of it than others.
Haha, forget about those alleged European “cojones” at least with regard to Poland, will you. The Psheks are abandoning their own country; a fact which runs counter to all their pompous, preposterous noises about being the “Guardians of Latin Christian European Civilization” and what-have-you. In what is to them “Sacred Western Europe”, they would come a cropper should they ever try to make their imbecilic fantasies come true. Toilet cleaning and plumbing, by contrast, are honourable ways of making a living.
As for Western European “natives”, they brought this mess and mayhem upon themselves. They gaily jumped on their beloved Masters’ neoliberal bandwagon with endless imperialist Zionazi warmongering as the inevitable outcome. Well, their love and devotion turned out to be quite poorly reciprocated, boo-hoo.
A lot of Russians emigrated during the 1990s as well. What is your point?
The same condemnation that you make of the Europeans and their submission to Western liberal delusions could also be made of the Middle Eastern populations who have, in the last few decades, in great numbers, happily tuned into US-backed fanatic propaganda thinking that it was heralding a new renaissance of Islamic civilization. Boo-hoo for them as well?
I want to add, that anyone who followed, the flow of immigrants to North America in the last 50 years , Canada in particular, can attest to immigration waves.
Pakistanis and Indians, followed by Vietnamese in the 70’s, followed by Jamaicans. Then Poles in the 80’s, then the Gypsies, Sri-Lankans, followed by Russians, and currently the Chinese en-masse and what’s called south-Asians. Lately some middle eastern people.
Never enough of tax paying cheap labor.
Saker
Have to disagree with you on this one. I think the aggressive behaviour, and the zio-media coverage of it, was not some spontaneous thing, but something specifically organised to cause outrage and further cause division between Europeans and Muslim peoples, for zionist genocidal goals.
wow, good post Saker.
Exactly! “no matter how hard it will be to defend this position, I will always personally be a proponent of an alliance between Europeans and immigrants against those who seek to destroy the European continent, the Maghreb and the Mashriq.”
And, it’s not hard to defend, because “Europe[‘s rulers are] completely morally and intellectually bankrupt” just as the rulers most everywhere else are.
It’s us versus them, the vast majority of people everywhere versus the ruling elite.
Let’s see what Jews really think about “empowering the Islamophobes” in Europe:
‘Islamization of Europe a good thing’
Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should ‘rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.’ He praises Islam for promoting modesty, respect for God
Kobi Nahshoni
Published:11.11.12, 13:52 / Israel Jewish Scene
As concerns grow over the increasing number of Muslims in Europe, it appears not everyone is bothered by the issue, including an Israeli rabbi who even welcomes the phenomenon.
Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing.
“With the help of God, the gentiles there will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt,” he explained.
Rabbi Efrati was asked to discuss the issue by an oriental studies student, who inquired on Judaism’s stand toward the process Europe has been going through in recent years.
Following the election of a hijab-wearing Muslim woman as the mayor of the Bosnian city of Visoko for the first time in continent’s history, the student asked the rabbi on the Kipa website: “How do we fight the Islamization of Europe and return it to the hands of Christians and moderates?
Efrati wrote in response that the Islamization of Europe was better than a Christian Europe for ethical and theological reasons – as a punishment against Christians for persecuting the Jews and the fact that Christianity, as opposed to Islam, is considered “idolatry” from a halachic point of view.
“Jews should rejoice at the fact that Christian Europe is losing its identity as a punishment for what it did to us for the hundreds of years were in exile there,” the rabbi explained as the ethical reason for favoring Muslims, quoting shocking descriptions from the Rishonim literature (written by leading rabbis who lived during the 11th to 15th centuries) about pogroms and mass murders committed by Christians against Jews.
“We will never forgive Europe’s Christians for slaughtering millions of our children, women and elderly… Not just in the recent Holocaust, but throughout the generations, in a consistent manner which characterizes all factions of hypocritical Christianity…
“A now, Europe is losing its identity in favor of another people and another religion, and there will be no remnants and survivors from the impurity of Christianity, which shed a lot of blood it won’t be able to atone for.”
‘Islam a relatively honest religion’
The theological reason, according to Rabbi Efrati, is that Christianity – which he sees as idolatry – has a tendency to “destroy normal life and abstain from it on the one hand, while losing modesty on the other hand,” as it “ranges between radical monasticism to radical Western licentiousness.”
Islam, the rabbi added, is “a religion which misjudges its prophets but is relatively honest. It educates a bit more for a stable life of marriage and creation, where there is certain modesty and respect for God.”
Efrati ruled, therefore, that “even if we are in a major war with the region’s Arabs over the Land of Israel, Islam is still much better as a gentile culture than Christianity.”
He added, however, that Jews must pray that the Islamization of most of Europe will not harm the people of Israel.”
@http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
The Jews and “anti-fascists” are at the forefront of the fight against the National Front!
Sometimes I wounder what kind of reality do you live in Saker.
And how on earth is it possible to justify anything, by the virtues of your own thinking and that prodjected upon others aka women.
Nowhere in other realms incl, islamic countrys is this kind of behaviour axepted, never and do enlighten us if there is one.
To the blame white european women for it, is hairrising, and I wounder have you been to Turkie as a woman, i dont think so, usually I dont fall into this kinds of stupiditys as this “!explanation” is an atemt to be, an divertion of facts.
Tsk, tsk, why is it, then even christianity whom I see as an dead end street, patriacal aka male dominante shitheads druling something about life, and keeps the half of the world outside its domain aka women, and somehow even You cant see it, huh, hurts dont it.
I have nothing but uter comtempt on the monestic religioins whom is been perverted to be an flatout stupid joke.
No Saker this one you are way out of line, ignorant babbeling, wrapping personal belifes upon whatever moral you think others have aka strawmen, and lord know what, upon the victim.
I have a girl in the house, and I am stuned by the wackos in here.
Hrmf I am pissed, you and some of the coments are a f…. shame.
peace
Mikael,
Learn to write properly. It greatly helps to think properly.
I have no point of agreement with the post you are responding to, but I think the writer is struggling to write in a tongue they have little familiarity with. Perhaps you could be a bit more tolerant with such writers. mod PS
But as you see, he (they?) manages very well the four letter words for which you should be a bit less tolerant. His intention to insult is too obvious.
This is not good. If you expect fluency in the English language, you can count me out. You have no idea how hard we have worked to understand English. The language is impossible. Take a look at the spelling and the impossible pronounciation – and the people who think this language is superior. Well, it is not. French is more precise and German is more logical. So is also Spanish. English is the language of theater and literature and it is unfortunately todays world language.
In a color revolution, you government in an artificially reacted situation where either it does nothing, and is seen as incompetent, or acts and is seen as repressive. In places like Ukraine, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Hong Kong, it was relatively easy to find a few disgruntled workers, some excitable students, some unhappy minority to do the dirty work for you.
The North European countries are more or less egalitarian, with a low Gini coefficient. The North European countries are stable, with people who are more or less satisfied with the place they live in. To organize a color revolution in a North European country, you need to import your revolutionaries from abroad. And that is what we are seeing right now.
antiwar, I agree. In your opinion, towards what end(s) is this subversion directed?
First of all, to any woman who has suffered aggression these days, my respects.
To answer your question, I think most of the time the US doesn’t care about us, but just does things because of US internal politics. Most of the time McCain or Obama say what their voters want to hear, do what their corporate sponsors want to see, and do not care for the consequences to us.
Still, the following are obvious goals:
– To create a Europe with pro-US right-wing governments. The US cannot accept a Germany with left wing parties like Syriza in Greece, or Podemos in Spain.
– To create a Europe which is too weak to be independent of the US, but still strong enough to be an interesting ally. The “euro crisis” was a first attack, the “refugee crisis” a second. Isolated from Russia in the east and in conflict with the Arabs in the south, Europe can only turn to the US for help.
I think that in the long term we will see a Europe which is independent of the US, but only after the cost of a pro-American policy has become unbearably high. The cost of a pro-American policy has already become high for our women, yes. But the cost of a pro-American policy for our politicians still is very low.
antiwar, that seems to me to be accurate. The USA and its controlling elites, do not tolerate independence, anywhere. They are currently destroying the Latin American advances made over the last twenty years, with the usual weapons, ie economic warfare, internal fascistic compradores, rabidly Rightwing MSM, and some Israeli assistance to paint Governments as ‘antisemitic’ (the universal slur). Africa will be controlled by military aggression (Libya) or internal subversion (Boko Haram etc)to thwart China. China and Russia are being surrounded by hostile US stooges, US bases, ‘missile defence’, a crucial part of a first-strike nuclear attack strategy and infiltrated by Western NGOs and local compradore elements etc. In short, USA behaviour for 200 years, that is relentless aggression in the service of ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’, but on steroids under the ‘first Jewish President’ Obama (as he was described by US politician Abner Mikvah). And Europe must be controlled, to prepare for war with Russia, if necessary, and to serve as ‘deputy sheriff’ in the coming wars of extermination to control the non-Western world, and cull the ‘useless eaters’ whose existence threatens to cause an ecological catastrophe. The USA remains, or to be precise, its ruling elite remains, the greatest force for Evil and destruction in history, even as their own society crumbles under the weight of its intellectual, moral and spiritual decay.
oh dear how the trumpets of self righteousness are blaring
btw respect is something one earns.
demand respect, is what dangerous stupid people do to get faux respect coating over hate.
e.g. the faux prophet got poisoned by a woman who detested him cause he killed her entire family and turned her into a slave.
patriarchal cultures have not evolved and men have lots of excuses to have no self control over their loins therefore dumb and dangerous.
https://syrianwarupdate.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/europe-who-are-those-syrian-war-refugees/
I wonder what that Saudi Arabian wife that you mention would feel if she saw that couple in the midst of a strong angry argument, yelling at each other, threatening each other, etc. Would she feel the disgust that she felt at watching them expressing intimate affection?
According to her culture and “tradition” I would venture to say, she would not feel disgusted at witnessing an angry exchange.
There seem to exist millions of people, throughout history and throughout the world, who are under the influence of an emotional entity by which they have very powerful feelings of disgust, anger and shame at any sexual attraction, feelings, contact,—especially between adult sexually capable men and women.—This disgust, anger and sense of offensiveness spill over toward all forms of “love” which are all (if among adults) considered decadent, disgusting and obscene. This emotional entity of disgust-anger-shame has generated a whole moral terminology of its own, based essentially on “pure” versus “impure”, and this has also highjacked concepts about “honor” and “respect” and has taken over religions so that the morality of “pure” versus “impure” has become very much a part of various religious morals when regulating social and sexual behavior between the genders. Violation of “purity” standards or morals tends to generate extreme anger, and violence, drastic punishment, often torture and death.—Entire cultures and nations or races can be accused of general sexual misconduct and be subject to extreme aggression, mass murder,—like lynchings of blacks in the American South, the Hitlerist extermination of Jews seen as sexual predators of “Aryans”,—or in the Old Testament, the commands by Moses as warlord, claiming God’s authority to utterly exterminate some seven nations in the land of Canaan, mentioning a lot about their alleged sexual misconduct, like incest, bestiality, using sexual intercourse in religious worship, temple prostitution and the like.
But this emotional entity [or entities] seems to manifest as boundless “righteous rage” and endless “holy warfare” and regards “love” in any form as fundamentally weak, decadent, disgusting and obscene,—all so as to produce maximal rage energies and fear energies and
to transform ordinary humans into something purportedly better, stronger and superior.
One final thought:—historical evidence exists that in ancient societies prostitution was at times actually considered “sacred” and served some sort of serious religious function. Now, it is warfare which is more and more considered “holy” and serves religious functions. Is this supposed to be moral and spiritual progress? I would say not at all. But it seems like a newly formulated religion based on perpetual warfare and endless bloody human sacrifices is strengthening, in what is called the “West” [basically USA and Western Europe] and throughout the Islamic world.
Anon, you seem to be a devotee of Wilhelm Reich. I’ve just spent a delightful interlude in my orgone collector, myself.
What pompous hooey.
‘Temple’ prostitution is what poor folk resorted to to have one less mouth to feed – child-selling for the sexual gratification of pdos. There is nothing ‘holy’ about this despicable practice.
And your warfare versus prostitution dichotomy is entirely false, not least because warfare and prostitution are intimately linked: the devastation of war has always generated impoverished desperation – with pimps/Johns ever ready to exploit human misery.
Rapine and sexual enslavement are part of the ISIS ‘holy war’ tool-kit, or do you classify them as mere ‘sexual misconduct’?
A very interesting piece from Voltairenet, suggesting these events were orchestrated, and amplified by (probably US-based twitter bots):
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189972.html
Travelling through Eastern Anatolia, buying old tribal weavings and carpets during the 1980s, led me away from the usual tourist tracks, where I got the same impression of the few European visitors I came across as Saker recounts here.
The occasional busload of European tourists I did see alight paid scant regard for the sensibilites of the locals. It wasn’t a matter of whether they agreed with them or not, but learning about them so they could pay due respect. Women in shorts were frowned upon, and even men with their upper arms uncovered were not regarded kindly, but that didn’t stop tourists breaking both taboos. The locals in poorer towns villages and towns received little or nothing from the tourist trade as there were so few tourists, the least they could’ve expected was respect.
I recall being in Van with a fellow traveller when we were surrounded by a group of excited young Kurdish boys. As we walked along the road I began chatting with the eldest boy, as my friend started talking to the others. Suddenly, I heard my friend raise his voice. The eldest boy and I turned back to see the younger boys trying to go through my friend’s pockets. The elder boy, just as disturbed as I, ran back, and ordered his young companions to return whatever they’d taken.
Later, I asked my friend what had happened. He told me he’d given them money. It made me angry. I told him the Kurds are a proud people, who would be about as pleased to see a foreigner turning their children into beggars as any European would seeing a Kurd doing the same to theirs. The idea of a man going around the streets giving money to young boys is as repellent to Kurdish parents as it is to Western parents.
In areas more frequented by Eurpean tourists, the resorts along the Antalyan coastline were filled with European women, both young and old, in search of local young men for holiday flings. The impression these women gave was that all Western women were sexually liberated and out for what they could get. I had an impossible job of convincing my Turkish friends otherwise, with Western TV and films reinforcing the impression that all Western women were fair game. It was just as hard trying to convince lovelorn young European girls not to return the following summer to meet their young beaus again, as they would surely be disappointed.
I am not trying to moralise, just stating facts. With Europeans an Americans crying for refugees to obey their local customs, they should look at the messages being sent by the Western corporate media, as well as travellers going East. Respect has to go both ways.
The French definition of a slut Saker: ” a woman everybody had, but yourself :-) ” Please do not blame ladies because they are attractive. About your video, I’d much rather enjoy a talk with the bountifully breasted creature then with the nun dressed in a sinister black potato bag. Again, in French, ” it’s not because you are on diet that you cannot take a look on the menu :-) “. Self restrain is part of a civilized attitude, and of course, everything is a matter of balance.
The French definition of a slut Saker: ” a woman everybody had, but yourself :-) ” Please do not blame ladies because they are attractive. About your video, I’d much rather enjoy a talk with the bountifully breasted creature than with her other self dressed in a sinister black potato bag. Again, in French, ” it’s not because you are on diet that you cannot take a look on the menu :-) “. Self restrain is part of a civilized attitude, and of course, everything is a matter of balance.
yes, a few good points to revise my concepts a little bit.
However, in the same line of logics, next time I go to Ryad or Bagdah, I will gather a bunch of westerners, choose a place of many hijab, burqabed abra women. And then raise up or tear down their burquish dress because I dont respect and dislike the way they dress.
“the kind of behaviour which is considered “normal” in the West makes it easy for those who organized the events in Germany to convince poorly educated and generally uncivilized refugees (as opposed to better educated and civilized ones, of course) that women (and men!) in the West deserve no respect.”
So we don’t hold ALL people to the same standards that we apply to ourselves? Us, being Europeans? This kind patronising racism is the reason why in Rotherham, Rochdale and Birmingham in England, girls as young as 12 were being sold into prostitution by Muslim men and no one dared speak up, despite the growing evidence staring them in the face. Also you claim women (in Europe) need to curb their behaviour so that it sits right with aggressive muggers and sexual criminals?
Removed inappropriate sentence – mod-hs
Europe/Western countries are, for all their faults and shortcomings, liberal democracies where women and men though different, are equal in the eyes of society they live and the law that governs them. This is why so many people are risking their lives to come here and not the other ME theocracies and dictatorships.