A quick update on the events in Belarus:
To make a long story short, two major developments have happened:
- My guess is that by now Lukashenko has now figured (again) that the West wants him dead AND he has figured out that he has been conned by the Ukie SBU and, most likely, elements inside his own KGB.
- The Belarusian security forces (riot police and KGB) have ruthlessly cracked down on the opposition and right now they seem to be in control of the situation.
I base my first conclusion on the clear and sudden change of tone of Lukashenko who, yet again, praises Putin and Russia and who is now playing nice hoping that the Kremlin will forget what just happened (it won’t)
As for the second conclusion, now that the Internet has been reopened (Belarus and the West accuse each other of having disconnected it), there is a lot of media (video and images) coming out of Minsk and other Belarusian cities and it appears that the following has happened:
While many people did sincerely and peacefully protest, a number of criminal elements were recruited (for US dollars) and they instantly attacked the security forces with great skill and violence: cops were lynched, some were shot (at least one), agent provocateurs even ran over cops with their cars, one guy was caught with 10’000 USD in the streets during the riots and his explanation was “this is my money” (as if anybody in his right mind would carry large sums of money in the midst of riots), others were caught with knives, baseball bats, Molotov cocktails, radios, flash-bang grenades (from Poland), fireworks, etc. etc. etc. Many of the hardcore rioters have multiple criminal convictions in the past and were well known by the authorities. Last but not least, some of these rioters had Ukie-style Nazi tattoos all over their bodies. What else is new….?
Predictably, the riot police retaliated in kind and started beating the crap out of anybody breaking the law and, alas, also beating the crap left and right of people who were not doing anything illegal (including severely beaten up journos, including Russian ones).
It appears that for the time being, the Belarusian KGB has the upper hand and that many of the subversives which were caught by the KGB were run by the Ukraine and Poland.
As for the main opposition figure (officially, she got 10% of the vote), she has now left for Lithuania (probably because her husband’s curators are located there).
Conclusion:
While the plot to create a major crisis between Belarus and Russia has been foiled thanks to the Russian FSB (молодцы ребята!), the plot to overthrow Lukashenko is still ongoing and might very well succeed. For one thing, people are really angry at the violence of the Belarusian cops. Second, the Belarusian economy is hurting and Russia cannot forever “carry” Belarus on her back. Third Lukashenko has been in power for way too long and for all this time he “sat between two chairs” – this has to change and it will change, the only question is will it change for the better or for the worse?
At the very least, Moscow should now demand that Lukashenko fire his Russia-hating foreign Minister, Makei, and the head of the Belarusian KGB, Vakulchik, (if these men had any sense of honor, they would immediately resign by themselves but, clearly, they do not…) and renew the talks on fully uniting Belarus and Russia.
As for Lukashenko, he has to put his actions where his mouth is and take retaliatory sanctions against the USA and the EU. Now, obviously, Belarus has no economic levers to use against the West, but what Minsk could and SHOULD do is to reduce the size of all the key diplomatic missions, embassies, consulates, etc. from the worst offending countries: USA, the Ukraine and Poland. This would not only be fair, it would be prudent as it is 100% clear now that these countries stand behind the current crisis and they will do all they can to turn a (comparatively heavenly) Belarus into the kind of Banderastan they turned the long-suffering Ukraine into.
Finally, it appears that the opposition (law abiding and other) are now talking stock of their apparent initial failure and a regrouping for the upcoming week-end.
At this point, the AngloZionist Empire does not need to pretend to like Lukashenko anymore (that plan has failed), so they can do something which they are very good at: provoke more and more violence, forcing the state to resort to violent repression (that is the “action is in the reaction” tactic) and then all that is needed is what they have successfully done in Riga, Vilnius, Moscow (1993), Kiev, Aleppo and many other places: send in professional snipers to shoot at BOTH sides, thereby creating a civil war.
Will the Belarusian KGB be capable of intercepting all the teams which will probably be sent in?
Maybe. The Belarusian KGB is, unlike its Ukie SBU counterpart, mostly formed of competent professionals who had all the time needed to carefully study what happened in the Ukraine, how it happened and why it happened. So they can probably keep control of the situation for a while longer, but it is anybody’s guess for how long.
Personally, I can only repeat that I have zero confidence in Lukashenko and I don’t believe that an independent Belarus is viable. The only solution I see is a full integration of Belarus into Russia.
The Saker
Yet another example of the mistake made in allowing the SSR’s to become independent then trying to corral them in the CIS. Of all the former USSR, Belarus ought to return again to being part of Russia. Perhaps a referendum a la Crimea that would reduce Lukashenko to a regional governor soon to be retired–an action some will holler about but be unable to take any action to prevent.
Outlaw Historian
This attempt by the West to create a rift between Belarus and Russia could well have created a situation for the reunification of Belarus with Russia. We shall see. What we have now is an attempt to place a puppet at the head of Belarus and drive the country into NATO, so that NATO could place missiles inside the country, creating a dangerous situation for Russia.
What a pity that Gorbachev did not read and internalise Machiavelli’s teachings. For instance,
“A man who wishes to act entirely up to his professions of virtue soon meets with what destroys him among so much that is evil”.
“A prince being thus obliged to know well how to act as a beast must imitate the fox and the lion, for the lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves”.
Gorby gets faulted for everything, But he did prevent another civil war
@ Saker
“… Lukashenko has been in power for way too long …”
How do you define here “way too long”?
And if he has (whatever the meaning), then an obvious question is, do you also consider that Putin has been in power for “way too long”?
(And that is quite apart from my own favouring Lukashenko way over V.V.Putin: what is good for the goose is good for the gander.)
Bad comparison: Putin literally resurrected Russia. Lukashenko ruined Belarus.
The Saker
Comprador elite of Russia ruined the country so much, it almost died. Russia needed resurrection. Lukashenko never did anything like that in Belarus.
Luka seems far more the socialist though, 80% of economy run by state, centrally planned, decent living standards compared to much of former USSR, roughly double citizens purchasing power of Ukraine, tidy and well run public services for all, kept that great Soviet sense of civic pride and honour, things seem confused but why is Russian media helping to stir the pot here? Has some deal already been arranged to divide up the state industries and possibly territory? I’d assume the stakes are high military as well for Russ defensive strategy and Kaliningrad access, this all seems risky, especially when it’s the Ukraine where you really want to be bringing to heel, and following that tragedy isn’t it better to maintain a weakened ally than endure that territory’s enemy occupation – have we forgotten the cookies, the see eye aye take over of Kiev?
“… Luka seems far more the socialist though, 80% of economy run by state, centrally planned, decent living standards compared to much of former USSR, roughly double citizens purchasing power of Ukraine, tidy and well run public services for all, kept that great Soviet sense of civic pride and honour …”
That is also my impression.
But still:
In purely practical, down to earth terms: if one was considering moving to either Belorussia or Russia, which one would be a safer choice?
That is assuming that one starts with no or little money, and abhors getting involved in any crafty capitalist speculations, but wants to lead a simple honest life.
* Free health services?
* Affordable flat?
* Food?
* Free education at all levels (including university)?
There is much loud cackling about Putin’s revamping Russia militarily. Which is true – but that does not extend to the basic living conditions of its populace, which are good only for its affluent “elite”; Moscow is at the very top amongst the most expensive cities on the planet Earth … and so on. Once the basic living conditions in Russia went way down from those in the USSR times – they never fully came up again.
So, specifically, how does today’s Belorussia compare here?
Belarus must have incurred considerable medical costs from Chernobyl. That they can still maintain free medical says alot about their priorities. Belarus was downwind from Chernobyl and has alot of radiation-related morbidity.
As to the rioters and KGB, the security services have the cell phones of the arrested rioters, and results from interrogations, that the KGB will be able to do ‘Contact Tracing’ to rid Belarus of the virus. Hopefully…
Chernobyl may not be “as advertised” vis-a-vis “fallout”. Consider: 60% of Japan’s mussel catch comes from….Hiroshima Bay? Didn’t they get the memo? Or were we sold a false narrative, like “Cofraud-19”?
Russia was looted for about $400 billion. And nobody was ever prosecuted. The Russian oligarchs and the system that left them unscathed was always a thorn in Lukashenko’s flesh. For all intents and purposes he took good care of Belarus.
Ivan
“… Comprador elite of Russia…”
Correct.
But as addition – it was a Zionist “elite” of Russia!
Everyone of them was connected to Israel, and today almost everyone of them is citizen of Israel too!
I wonder how exactly Putin “resurrected” Russia. Yeltsin was so horrible that it was literally impossible to be worse. So any way from that point was up. Instead of making a break with Yeltsinism, Putin only put lipstick on the same neoliberal capitalist system. Large scale loot by oligarchs was replaced by systematic small scale loot, that’s all.
This makes sense. But do not expect Stalinist resolve from Putin. He came into a set system, a done deal. Any attempted rash action would have entailed too much adversity. We are talking bloodshed, misery, disconnection from the rest of the world in every way, financially and otherwise, and possibly war.Russia is too far “integrated” into the western economic world, the Bretton Woods world (which is crumbling). The deal within Russia is: the globalist banking liberals control the economy and the finance. Putin and his team control homeland security, foreign policy and the armed forces. Putin has been taking it slow, but things are changing. Keep watching
Biswapriya Purkayastha,
“… I wonder how exactly Putin “resurrected” Russia…”
Right question!
Personally, I think it was easier for the Rothschild Zionists to take over the whole of Russia – with an already organized network of their agents through the KGB.
With a lot of small states the whole job would take too long.
In any case, it is easier for the World Government when the lower “pyramids of power” are authoritatively organized and carry out the orders of the Zionist World Government. Unconditionally!!!
Mr. Putin was obviously chosen for the job in Russia – and has done it well so far.
A small problem was Lukashenko (Batko)- who dared to cancel obedience to the World Government represented in the character of Bill Gates and his WHO.
That is why we are now watching this “colored revolution” in Minsk.
A “colored revolution” organized by Mr. Putin and his KGB friends on the orders of the Rothschild Zionists.
Message:
Bill Gates’ orders (aka Rotschild orders) – must be obeyed unquestioningly!
Damn, another one with a case of ”Jew on the brain”, and not so coincidentally is there to black pill people on anyone in leadership who shows the slightest resistence.
No Vladimir, if I may. Jewry, or Zionism, or Talmudism, is the most absolutely and perfectly organized, subversive force historically active and persistent for now millennia. Please inquire as to who owns all US Media (and now ALL social media), so that ‘free speech’ is killed in the name of free speech, and on and on and on….. or… ask yourself who destroyed the Middle East. And, as a historical sample, not to just generalize, here is what Gibbon wrote (among other related items) in his “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”,
“From the reign of Nero to that of Antoninus Pius, the Jews discovered a fierce impatience of the dominion of Rome, which repeatedly broke out in the most furious massacres and insurrections. Humanity is shocked at the recital of the horrid cruelties which they committed in the cities of Egypt, of Cyprus, and of Cyrene, where they dwelt in treacherous friendship with the unsuspecting natives; and we are tempted to applaud the severe retaliation which was exercised by the arms of the legions against a race of fanatics, whose dire and credulous superstition seemed to render them the implacable enemies not only of the Roman government, but of human kind.”
Maybe, according to you, Gibbon, Dostoyevsky, Soljenitsin…. etc etc etc were just stupid people with ‘Jew on the brain.”
Dostoevsky (my favorite writer) and Solzhenitsyn knew about the Jews, the Jew collectively not individually speaking.
But one thing is certain; seems to me that Dostoevsky was more interested in the Vatican as the major player. Now one could possibly say that the Vatican and the Synogogue share the same bloodstream, a kind of symbiosis, but i’m more inclined to think that there is more than one great power in this world out there, and those who insist on monomania about the Jews are missing out on a lot of contrary facts involving other forces.
As an Orthodox Christian, I know that really I personally am the one at fault, not so much conspirators and their plans. I have sinned and fallen short. But God is merciful and loves mankind. I think in regards to thinking about the various powers out there, that God is all-powerful and all-knowing, He is in control, not ”them”.
@ Biswapriya Purkayastha
“… Yeltsin was so horrible that it was literally impossible to be worse. So any way from that point was up. Instead of making a break with Yeltsinism, Putin only put lipstick on the same neoliberal capitalist system. Large scale loot by oligarchs was replaced by systematic small scale loot, that’s all. …”
A highly accurate and sober observation. It puts everything that has happened there since in correct perspective.
However, things being as they are, the fact is that Russia has not yet been able to come up with anything better.
Some twelve years ago, being aware of all the above, I discussed that very same topic with a Serbian colleague of mine, expressing my utter puzzlement about the rather uncritical adulation of Serbian youth of an imagined person of Putin, that viewed him as no less than a “promised saviour” of the Serbian nation and alike…
My friend replied, yes, he too was aware of that extreme one-sidedness. But on the other hand, he said, who else on this entire Earth is capable of putting his foot in front of the western imperialists and tell them: ¡No pasarán!
Yes, Internet is working again.
Protests were even in Kobrin (60’000 inhabitants, Brest oblast) for two days. Not anymore yesterday evening.
Looks like they disconnected it again.
(whoever “they” are)
The Saker
The Internet was designed right from the start to resist and survive damage at any scale. Thus it should be impossible to cut off a nation completely from outside – especially in such a case as Belarus, which has a large border with Russia. No matter what the West does, the Russians should be able to maintain Internet connectivity with Belarus.
So I would suspect that it is the Belarus government that has shut down the Internet in that country – if of course it really has been “shut down”. One can think of many reasons why it might choose to do that. For instance, it might reason that the Internet provides Washington with enormous power to communicate disinformation and to corrdinate malicious activities.
@Tom Welsh,
“… So I would suspect that it is the Belarus government that has shut down the Internet in that country …”
It never occurred to you to think maybe – that it was Russia that shut down the Internet?
“It never occurred to you to think maybe – that it was Russia that shut down the Internet?”
Not really. How could Russia have shut down Internet connections to Poland, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania? Only about one third of Belarus’ borders march with Russia.
Not to mention satellite links.
Most authoritarian governments have plans to shut down the internet during a crisis. Including the one based in Washington DC.
Brest being right by Poland?
It’s excellent that the Belarusian KGB gives the foreign rabble-rousers and their recruited street hooligans a good beating. Should have been done by the Berkut to quell the Maidan Nazi putsch in Ukraine too.
I don’t know whether it’s fair to conclude that Lukashenko has been in power ”for too long” — as a statesman he is only 5 years ahead of Putin. Looking at the demographics, Belarus has during the last decade succeeded in keeping the total population stable at roughly 9,5 million people. It doesn’t precisely take an expert to figure out what would have happened had the Ukro-Psheks and the local traitors toppled Lukashenko: Belarus immediately joining the rest of Eastern Europe’s depopulating, deindustrializing backwaters of which Poland and the Ukraine are two conspicuous examples.
”At the very least, Moscow should now demand that Lukashenko fire his Russia-hating foreign Minister (Makei) and the head of the Belarusian KGB (Vakulchik) and renew the talks on fully uniting Belarus and Russia.”
Of course the Russophobes have to be purged. Belarus has no future without Russia. Just let the West’s Zionazis rage and fume — they make for top-class entertainment every time their hissy fits are genuine, driven by real pain.
Look, if they had ONLY beat-up the hardcore porokhobots and assorted criminals I would be giving them a standing ovations.
But, alas, there is overwhelming evidence from numerous sources, including definitely not Soros-controlled ones, that the violence was totally out of proportion.
This begin said, the cops retook control of the streets in 2 days. Had Ianukovich given the cops (and, especially, the Berkut forces) the order to evacuate the insurgents from the Maidan, it could have saved the Ukraine.
Still, I am most definitely a supporter of always using minimal (but sufficient) force to restore law and order and to stop riots and insurgencies.
The Saker
Mmm, I definitively don’t have primary source information; however I’ve seen a lot of videos from “nexta”, which seems a color revolution tool; that is, they would likely maximize any recorded excess from the police.
However, I didn’t saw anything excessive, given the circumstances (not simple protests, but a coordinated coup attempt with groups using violence and wanting dead people).
Actually, I see the belarussian security acting more efficiently and less violently than the usual repression seen in France or the USA.
In particular I remark a big difference:
– in France against Gillets Jaunes and in US riots, the police seems instructed to voluntarly cause harm and terrorize the populace, but relatively few arrests are done (the modus operandi is to shoot, aiming at the head, and deliberately provoke violence in order to justify the shootings)
– in Belarus so far I see the priority is on arresting any protester in sight, the majority of what I saw is quite violentless (and if I did saw some beatings to people already under control on the ground, it was by far much less common than what I can see on the West; and I definitely haven’t seen yet the common sight in the West of police aiming guns at the cameras)
so it seems there is quite a difference in training and in objectives, much to the advantage of the belarussian forces.
I strongly differ from your “out of proportion” opinion.
On the contrary I think that Belarus (and Liban) have done the right thing. Those are not mere “protests” but organized attemps to collapse the State in order to enslave the whole countries. We have seen it in Yugoslavia, Lybia, Ukraine, Syria, Bolivia,… so far the one that ranked the best of the list is Syria, but at which cost!
The prime duty of the State is to protect its citizens; it would be criminal for the authorities of the country to let it go down the same path as Ukraine; particularly for Belarus, of all places the one that suffered the most from nazism, allowing it to come back will be a capital sin.
(PS: as for “journos, including Russian ones”; neither being a journalist nor being russian means automatically being good.
I even think that “journalists”, even presenting themselves as “russians”, like the ones from Dozhd TV, well desserve to be beaten if they actively side and act in an attempt to ovethrown a government and instill chaos.
Dozhd TV was even so far in the ignominy as publicly pushing a narrative on the line of sayng that the USSR should have surrendered to the nazis instead of resisting (and saving the world)
PS2: at Colonel Kassad there is an article that apparently on Belarus appeared the local “damas de blanco” a tactic used by the USA (unsuccessfully so far) against Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua; the idea is to put a bunch of nice looking women, dressed in white, so that they can be filmed in contrast to the police arresting them. That’s quite a proof of the manipulation and intents.
Excellent comment! And entirely true in regards to the Dozhd channel.
@pavlo
Great comment.
In addition, I personally think – that the organizers of this “colored revolution” should not be sought in the West.
They are in Russia, that is, at the top of the Russian government, which is more than obvious.
Namely, stateTV – RT or Sputnik cannot be on the side of the “colored revolution” from – the first hour – without receiving an order.
Dude,
Also, don’t forget that if you are a citizen and you do not want your country to go to shit like Ukraine, you pay attention to the kind of crowd you are keeping company. It’s cool if we have some grievance against government and we want to protest.
Ok, let’s go out to protest.
But if in the middle of protest I see some dangerous shit, like people throwing molotovs and grenades and bricks at police, THAT should immediately ring bells and tell me that something else is going on. And if I don’t want to be caught in the middle of some weird shit I never signed up for, I go home and stay away. Until the time comes when we can protest civil like and not be seeing as terrorists.
In short, don’t stay out if you see signs of people wanting to overthrow the government. You will get a piece of the action yourself if you do.
@ Nussiminen
“… It’s excellent that the Belarusian KGB gives the foreign rabble-rousers and their recruited street hooligans a good beating. Should have been done by the Berkut to quell the Maidan Nazi putsch in Ukraine too. …”
You are 100% correct: something had to be done quickly – and thankfully it was.
Under such extreme circumstances it is practically impossible to “selectively beat up” “only the bad guys” within the rioting mob. What an insane delusion…
(Yeah, right. Set up colourful mobile kiosks throughout the rioting crowd, manned (womanned :-)) by gentle government clerks, for frothing mad rioters to voluntarily line up and orderly register as “good” or “bad” (“Dear Sir … please just check the right box … here … thank you…”), and then, and only then, proceed to spank (gently!) the “bad” ones – all supervised by human rights lawyers from Moscow, of course!……)
Agree, seems people are getting carried away with optics here and I’m afraid I can’t see why, this isn’t the West and why should a different civilization be so cowed? Action is what was needed and action is what was taken.
Dude,
Also, don’t forget that if you are a citizen and you do not want your country to go to shit like Ukraine, you pay attention to the kind of crowd you are keeping company. It’s cool if we have some grievance against government and we want to protest.
Ok, let’s go out to protest.
But if in the middle of protest I see some dangerous shit, like people throwing molotovs and grenades and bricks at police, THAT should immediately ring bells and tell me that something else is going on. And if I don’t want to be caught in the middle of some weird shit I never signed up for, I go home and stay away. Until the time comes when we can protest civil like and not be seeing as terrorists.
In short, don’t stay out if you see signs of people wanting to overthrow the government. You will get a piece of the action yourself if you do.
The Saker is correct. Looking at what the West has done to Ukraine and the Baltic States, rejoining Russia would be their best bet. Lukashenko;s policy of trying to straddle 2 chairs just gave the US and its lackeys an opportunity to meddle in Belarus
Really appreciate your analysis.
The anglozionist power: the “City”(goes back to the Magnata Charta), their international private banking network, their various organizations , their hold on today’s drug trafficking(infinite source of money:NATO, Afganistan, etc) so it’s a very big thing but it’s absolutely evil and I don’t think one can build something solid in that basis. The essentials: determine Evil and fight it.
Jean-Marie,
Totally agree with your statement, but was unaware of the link between the the “City” and Magna Carta.
Would you happen to know of a definitive link explaining same please?
Thanks
The Magna Carta was the first essential step in moving the Sovereign from the State/King to the the merchant class…who’s global power center became the City of London
Thanks for that.
Regards.
I’m not entirely sure that being ruled by the current British Royal Family having absolute powers would be any better than being ruled by the bankers.
Give Prince Andrew real power, then you’d better hide your daughters!
Is there any possibility that the Russian FSB will join the Belarusian KGB?
Between them they would have to present an insuperable barrier, and it would form a nice foundation for moving towards total integration.
nope!
The Russian FSB is an internal security service. As for the Russian SVR, the last thing they will need is a bunch of heavily infiltrated country bumpkins asking for a meeting in Iasenevo. But the key thing is this: the FSB has learned how to operate in a democratic society and how to respect legal norms. The Belarusian KGB is probably still full of people who don’t realize that the times have changed.
but they ought to work together until Belarus rejoins Russia, at which point the Russians will simply take over and retain the best (like they did in Crimea).
My 2cts.
Cheers
The Saker
Russia will succeed – even if the Empire seems to have a good plan, willing allies and capable “ground forces” in Minsk.
But they underestimate “Vlad the Terrible” a very last time ……
Wait and see – this here will become the 3rd nail to the coffin of the Empire …..after Crimea and Syria.
I trust in Vladimir!!
;-)
Regards – Chris
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6092256.html
Thanks!
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All the signs are Russia has moved in, bolstered the KGB with special service officers, Intel and “suggestions”.
The RF military probably has assisted Belarus also.
With Putin’s congratulations for the re-election, you know he was “all in” with special services, military, money, tough love and ice cream.
Luka knew what had to be done. He ordered it. The streets are under control. Heads got cracked and some blood flowed. But “they”, his friends in the West, were coming for him like it happened in Romania. He would be lucky if he died swiftly.
Now, he has to survive treachery from within his government. The Russians will do what they did for Erdogan.The SVR and GRU will also help him. Filtering out the conspirators will take a few months.
He has one path. He needs to move into the Union State, join the EAEU and CSTO. Belarus and its small population will benefit from integration with Russia. There’s no downside for the masses. Only some of the businessmen and corrupt officials will have problems.
He can serve out the next 6 years, but it will have to be as a junior partner, not dictator.
Meanwhile, Russia will find a Belarussian who will replace Luka.
The US and Poland will keep at it. They smell blood and weakness. Hyenas are hard to chase away.
I will soon post a video here which will discuss exactly HOW Putin congratulated Lukashenko.
What he said was this “bravo for your election, now we need to restart all the integration processes”.
Seems like Putin agrees with me (just kidding, of course!).
Cheers
”The US and Poland will keep at it. They smell blood and weakness. Hyenas are hard to chase away.”
Correct. That’s exactly why these ”illegal annexations” are the perfect countermeasure. With the sole exception of the Polish People’s Republic, the iron rule of History teaches us that whenever there is a Polish state, the latter always behaves like Europe’s greedy hyena, coveting any region the Poles deem as weak and without any strong allies. With Russia firmly in control of Belarus, the hyena surely will keep howling but with nothing to show for it.
” As for Lukashenko, he has to put his actions were his mouth is and take retaliatory sanctions against the USA and the EU. ”
Besides what the Saker sates, Belarus has nothing to retaliate with. In fact, it should prepare fro massive sanctions about to be levied against it by Europe and ZioAmerica. Can Russia keeps itself and Belarus afloat while under sanctions ? We shall see.
Expelling diplomats of the countries directly involved in the riots funding is something Belarus can do.
Like that American guy?
Katherine
PS. The american guy looks like a hyena.
Katherine
True – but smart as well. Dangerous, I guess …. somebody you will have to reckon with.
Of course it can, if it is important enough. Russia has a massively strong balance sheet and is backed by China.
They probably ought to expell all Western NGOs as well. I do not know which ones operate in Belarus, but they are the conduits for imperialism. the NEDS and Soros types must go.
Alleged unions among independent states simply don’t work, look at the EU, they don’t create a stronger geopolitical actor and are only source of never-ending useless meetings and talks. I agreed with the Saker (like 95% of the times!) that, as Putin cannot afford to give up Belarus, he should integrate it within Russia. But it is a very difficult task.
Their blood is of the same history, much more in common than England and Scotland or Texas and New York, it’s about instilling the confidence and drive rather than fearing Western judgement and retaliation.
The number of Western NGOs operating in Belarus needs to be reduced as soon as possible. Belarus should follow the example of Russia and China.
agreed 100%!!
@ cirsium
Is there on the web any actual comparative listing of numbers of NGOs in Belorussia, Russia and China? I was always under a general impression that China had too many of these; I am not sure about Russia and Belorussia.
Je voudrais savoir si Le Saker pense refaire une interview en francais. J’avais écouté avec grand plaisir les 2 interviews qu’il avait faites avec Slobodan Despot.
Je sais que vous ne voulez pas trop qu’on vous envoie des emails donc je me permets de vous poser la question en commentare.
Merci.
Google translation,MOD:
I would like to know if Le Saker thinks of remaking an interview in French. I had listened with great pleasure to the 2 interviews he had done with Slobodan Despot.
I know you don’t really want to be emailed to you so I would like to ask you the question in comment.
Thank you
Pour le moment je n’ai pas de plan pour d’autres interviews. Franchement, je suis assez fatigué et ces interviews sont souvent épuisantes. Mais peut-être plus tard dans l’année.
Amitiés
Le Saker
Machine translation: At the moment I have no plan for further interviews. Frankly, I’m pretty tired and these interviews are often exhausting. But maybe later in the year. Cheers The Saker
Saker;
Will you still be doing the quarterly conversations with Catherine Austin Fitts? Those are masterpieces…
After what happened in Ukraine – Lukashenko must be really lacking in brains to have thought the EU and USA would be trustworthy. I was shocked by the number of NGOs allowed to operate in Belorussian. Really dumb
Also the people can be against Lukashenko but these ones going out on the streets to cause trouble violence and destruction for money / and or for foreign powers deserve no mercy.
Ukraine should stand as a warning – but seems Belarus did not learn the right lessons.
Lukashenko used disgusting language towards Russia and made threats about handing the 33 guys to Ukraine. What a fool he has shown himself to be as it’s clear Poland Ukraine and the Baltic states have all been plotting against him – he cannot carry on as before.
I agree with Saker he may have started off well many years ago but his actions have been about himself and his dynasty and not the safe future of Belorussian.
Those fools on the streets need to look at Belorussian economy and who they trade most with – that is their friend and ally.
Lukashenko was undermining Russian sanctions on EU products By relabelling them and shipping them through Belorussia
He would demand/ blackmail Russia for cheap oil and gas and resell it at a profit
He was acting like Russia should pay and support his country despite the fact he was flirting with the west – just like Yanukovic expecting Russia to pay
What you write here, sounds to me very near the truth… like you I have no sympathies for Lukashenko, but, am in no doubt US, Poland and Ukraine were heavily behind the violence of the protesters… and for all the results of a failing economy … its still ”heavenly” compared to what the Belarus after a Maidan coup will be… …
Have you seen this? “Pompeo vows to deliver freedom/democracy to Belarus”…
What the Americans say, as opposed to do, should be seen in the context that they’re now only 82 days away from the 2020 election.
This is not to say that there arent genuine US threats against non-client nation-states.
2 questions
1. What would be a basis to improve the Belarus economy and quality of life?
Build greenhouses, as in Russia?
2. How can this new American chappie be ejected?
Katherine
I don’t think Lukashenko would prefer to join the failing US against Russia. But he has to find a way of appeasing the crazies in Washington while avoiding a color revolution at home.
If there is an eventual integration of Belarus into Russia you can be sure that the US government and their MSM minions will instantly cry out that “Putin annexed Belarus”. Take that one to the bank.
To repeat what I said in response to the last article of the Saker’s on Belarus: how exactly is this full integration (annexation) to be achieved? Who will pay for it? Have the people of Belarus, not to mention their armed forces, shown any willingness to be “integrated with” (annexed by) Russia? What happens when they resist? Will Russia invade or accept a politically disastrous defeat? Can the Saker provide any answers?
I read a lot of responses to the last article claiming that there is no difference between Russians and Belarusians and therefore they need to be in the same country. Even if the former proposition is true, which is extremely doubtful, the latter is silly. Are New Zealanders and Australians in one country? Are Argentinians and Chileans? How about Indians and Pakistanis? There needs to be actual v reasons for integration and a mechanism by which it is to be achieved, not just castles in the air.
Even tho’ its from (Removed language,MOD), you might find some answers to your questions here:
The Union State, also referred to as the Union State of Russia and Belarus, is a supranational union consisting of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State
What does that have to do with an annexation? To go back to my analogy, Australia and New Zealand, India and Pakistan, Kenya and Tanzania, are all part of the so called (British) “Commonwealth”. Try asking them to merge and see what happens.
Your qn: How exactly is this full integration (annexation) to be achieved?
Note: It wont be annexation.
All your other qns cant be answered because the process – altho’ started – has stalled for reasons that Saker outlined in his previous article about Luka “sitting on two chairs”
You cant be serious can you? Youre not comparing apples with apples.
– 2000kms of sea, the Tasman Sea separate Australia & NZ.
– India is mostly Hindoo and Pakistan is mostly Muslim
– Kenya and Tanzania have different histories. Tanzania (formerly German Tanganyika lost as a result of its defeat in WWI) is a union itself between Tanganyika & the Zanzibar Archipelago remaining a separate colonial jurisdiction which merged in 1964 to form the United Republic of Tanzania – how the country gets its name.
Just because theyre all members of the British Empire (now called Commonwelath) is irrelevant.
It’s far from irrelevant.
Let’s talk about whether the Belarus people want to be Russian. Do they want to swap their socialist economy, free higher education, etc for Putinist regime neoliberal capitalism? Do they want to give up the option of choosing their own future, whether under Lukashenko or someone else, instead tying it to Russia where their nine million people will be a drop in the ocean, utterly insignificant on vote power or economic leverage? If they do not, if they refuse to be “integrated” (to pretend it isn’t annexation is like saying East Germany was not annexed by West Germany in 1990, something even East Germans now admit), what is Russia going to do? Cut Belarus off? Lukashenko will suddenly become the darling of the West, funds will flow into Minsk, and Belarus will be a NATO member before you can say Barbarossa II. Or will Russia invade Belarus, to incorporate it by force? That should go well!
I wonder how many work out of their home country….do they prefer to.stay where they can work….there is plenty of room to return to a country size of England and Scotland( with 65 m peoples in those) but Belarus of 10……can they prosper if they return?
In response to Biswapriya Purkayastha
Belarus relays heavily on Russia and cannot expect Russia to keep funding them with nothing in return
Ukraine chose the EU path and found no markets for their goods
Their population is the poorest with Moldova
People need to be realistic
Look at the EU only 6 countries pay to subsidies the other 22. !!
That’s is why the UK left – got fed up of open borders to cheap EU labour and paying into the RU budget to subsidise an ever expanding EU
Ukraine lost its sovereignty
Belarus will loose that and it’s country will become an EU puppet state.
Look at all these Eastern European’s countries Hungary Poland etc want to reject migrants and then they will be threatened with sanctions
Belarus is small 9 million people
If you seriously want to understand what is at stake read back articles on Ukraine and what happened to them
I know exactly what happened to (neoliberal, hyper corrupt, dysfunctional) Ukraine. How is Belarus remotely similar? The question of Belarus’ accession to the EU hasn’t even come up, so where do you bring in the comparison from?
I think what Biswapriya Purkayastha is concerned with is not the political, nor the economic ramifications of an Belarus-Russia integration process but how Belarus citizen would respond to such a shift of national identity
If that was his concern, he could hardly suggest uniting India and Pakistan.
Did I *suggest* uniting India and Pakistan? *I* suggest you read my answers over again, with a dictionary by your side if necessary.
Given the geography, if Belarus and Russia unite, the baltics would scream bloody murder. In such scenario I expect a full blown PR attack along the lines “Russia is restoring Soviet Union”.
You are absolutely correct – they will go bananas
But, and that is the beauty of the current dynamic,
Russia has no reason to pay attention to the hysterics and antics of its prostituted neighbors.
Cheers
The Saker
The Brown And Little Tiny Insect CountrieS are soon empty territories. Russia should unceremoniously take them and settle them with ethnic Russians. This isn’t some kind of nasty humour on my part. If Russia doesn’t do this, then Poland will. That, by contrast, is a sure recipe for a big conflagration. It is in the Polish DNA (figuratively speaking) to behave as a despicable enabler of Western aggression and, most notably, to feel 100% proud and happy about it, at least until the ensuing results for Poland become plain for all to see.
And as I have pointed out before (and Saker seems to agree here): The West’s Zionazis make for top-class entertainment every time their hissy fits are genuine, driven by real pain. And it is at least as entertaining to gloat in the bitterness setting in among the more reactionary, politically retarded regions of one’s own country. In Sweden, the island of Gotland stands out as saturated with putrid — and historically entirely unjustified — Russophobia. So if and when Russia does what it really should do in the Baltics, Gotland will go apeshit, letting its disapproval literally be heard across the waters permeating the air with that truly funny Swedish dialect, LOL!
My heart goes out to the Belarusian people. The same psychos who are conspiring to overthrow my American Republic and the Constitutional rule of law are trying to steal from Belarus her sovereignty and turn her into a vassal. We have the same enemy.
I had a chat with a Belarusan friend of mine yesterday. He’s early 30’s. Other Belarusans that age that I have met also hate Russia, see Putin as a dictator just like they don’t like Lukashenko. For what it’s worth, here are the points he made:
+Everybody hates Lukashenko… A lamppost would have won.
+Elections are a total sham.
+Lukashenko is awful and his opponent Svetlana is irrelevant.
+The virus is a real problem. Lukashenko does nothing to help.
+The country has no future. Whether revolution, anarchy, or continued dictatorship, there will be repression.
+No solution to its problems.
+He sees only small groups working cooperatively outside of government control as the only answer. Basically this is a survivalist point of view.
+He has transferred his hatred of the USSR–he said that everyone he knows had a relative who went to prison at one point or another–to Russia post USSR. This point of view is shared by many post USSR peoples in former republics, Ukraine, the Baltics, Georgia, being obvious example.
I agree with Saker, and I told my friend, that the EU eats small countries like Belarus for lunch. I didn’t tell him, though I believe it to be true, that it must reunite with Russia.
What most struck me was when I asked him what program did the opposition have, and even, what does he actually want, he had no answer, only, “Lukashenko must go”.
Without a positive direction and goals, he’s probably correct, Belarus will become another failed state.
It’s surprising that this view is not expressed in the blogosphere that I’m aware of.
‘If a ship doenst know which harbor its sailing for, no wind will be the right wind’ – Seneca
Looks like its not over yet …
Armed People Break Into Yandex’s Office in Minsk
https://sputniknews.com/europe/202008131080154625-armed-people-break-into-yandexs-office-in-minsk/
I think the situation between the US and Russia will keep escalating. Pompeo promised new sanctions to block nord stream 2. Now the US is trying to do in minsk what it did in Kiev. And according to southfront pompeo sais this during his visit in the Czech Republic :“If the Russians are offering money to kill Americans, or for that matter other Westerns as well, there will be an enormous price to pay. That’s what I shared with foreign minister Lavrov,”.
Trump is more and more like an Obama 2.0.
I can assure you that no one needs to offer money for the Taleban to kill Americans.
Given the seriousness of the events which have occurred, I would not reduce the size of the diplomatic mission of those involved. I would notify each country involved, the U.S., Poland, Ukraine and any others that they have 48 hours to close their embassy and remove themselves from Belarus. All of them!
I would then rapidly do what is needed to take Belarus home. The works of the empire are all around and easy to see and they must know the jackals have targetted them. Jackals are relentless until they take down their target. That is exactly what John Perkins called those sent in to overthrow a government on behalf of the NWO empire.
Everyone should be able to discern that when the likes of Pompeo say they are going to bring freedom and democracy, in true Orwellian fashion, it means just the opposite.
“The only solution I see is a full integration of Belarus into Russia”
Is it that what the Belarussion people want ?
You can’t integrate a country unless the people want to live together. That’s why Russia didn’t annex Ukraine; Russia doesn’t want millions of Russophobic Ukrainians inside Russia.
So if Russia joins Belarus, it will be because the two peoples are willing to live together, which I suspect they are.
Thx. Any idea of the percentage of 10 million Belarussians wanting to be integrated into Russia ?
Would be interesting to know.
“The only solution I see is a full integration of Belarus into Russia”
But what is it that the Belarussian people want themselves ???
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How Lukashenko can be so stupid
Flirting with West and provoking and blackmailing Russia
Idiot
My God, why they always stand on the same rake
Maybe he thinks he’s Erdogan.
Does Putin want reunification though as it may create a whole new set of issues, one being it would put Russia on Poland’s doorstep.
The other it would never be accepted by the empire media who would screen Putin’s anaxation and Aggression and focus on those that didn’t want it there, the inevitable demonstrations, riots more sanctions etc etc..,
It does seem to be low on his list of priorities. How hard is it to offer one aging leader a good retirement package to make it happen?
We must assume there is a reason why that hasn’t happened,
There is no logic in luc outstaying his welcome and being strung up by the locals surely he recognizes this from what happened to gadaffi?
Maybe it’s because no retirement package has been offered because Russia doesn’t want it for its own reasons. Luc feels trapped with no where to go which is why he’s flirting with the west in desperation?
The way the Belarus colour tactic is playing out so far may well turn out to be a huge blessing in disguise – the fact that Lukashenko clearly fell into a western/NATO orchestrated trap will have him furious & out for revenge, his only option now whether he even wants to or not, is – like his soul brother Erdogan – to open up even more to Russia. Russia for its part will have a huge opportunity as a result of all of this to gain a strategic advantage within Belarus & begin to steer the country in the right direction. Lukashenko, for at least a decade, but quite dramatically since Russia returned Crimea, has been moving Belarus into the orbit of the west. He has been playing a very dangerous game, very similar to Erdogan, & it nearly got him killed. I have no doubt that the Kremlin will know how to maximise its advantage in all of this, it is now there, for the taking.
Russia is very patient, and not in the habit of forcing things, or acting out of desperation. Little Luke is in no position to make any demands to Putin, who will repeat to him the facts, of Ukraine, of the West, of the changing global order, of the attempted coup on Erdogan, etc. and will remind Lukashenko that it’s up to him to make a choice, but that his options aren’t getting any better as time goes on, and as a matter of fact his time is running out. It’ll be time to make a deal, and a referendum like they did in Crimea. Before Lukashenko ends up with a bayonet in his backside, and Belarus plundered like Ukraine.
And what happens is, or rather when, the Belarusian people reject annexation by Russia in that referendum?
Why do you keep using the word “annexation”?
Russia didnt annex Ukraine. Russia didnt annex Crimea – it was a reunification.
Russia cannot realistically annex Belarus without attracting the attention of US-NATO – and Putin has more than enough problems on his hands.
Why would he want to create even more – and right on his frontdoor step.
I already told you there will be *no* annexation.
If anything it will be a reunification.
Union State, aka the Union State of Russia and Belarus, is a supranational union consisting of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State
Because it will be an annexation exactly as much as East Germany was annexed by West Germany or Sikkim by India. Has anyone asked the Belarus people whether they want to be part of Russia? I don’t care how many Wikipedia articles you cite, are you willing to risk the Belarusian people rejecting the annexation/unification/whatever fantasy name you dream up? If the answer is yes, what is the plan of action when they reject said unification?
So much for being able to peacefully protest anywhere in the world. Infiltrators everywhere.
Some western members of ECFR the George Soros networks of politicians, who then obviously execute orders from the Comittee of 300 Rothschild Syndicate where George Soros is a member, have declared the revolution’s defeat of which must be a good sign ? Can we see the western shadow revolution at play ? They now harbour revenge in the form of sanctions.
Ina Eriksen Soereide, Norway member of ECFR :
Optimism for Belarus ‘is now gone’ — Norway’s top diplomat
https://www.dw.com/en/optimism-for-belarus-is-now-gone-norways-top-diplomat/a-54559358
I cannot wait for the Pakistanis, Somalis and similar in Oslo having their own color revolution. The Norwegian Establishment has been traitorous to its own people for far too long.
They deserve their own “Oslo Peace Process” so that their country is taken away from them.
Norwegian politicians most certainly are the deep corrupt elite of the globalist organistations of the Rothschild syndicate, of which they have been directed throughout history.
In fact Norway never was a democracy as laid doen in the Constitution (1814). Norway was immediately ceded as a result of the Napolean war defeat and the Kiel Treaty, to Sweden from Denmark. During Swedish rule the Constitution was made redundant by the introduction of the Parliamentarian System of Government establishing parties to rule in place of direct representatives of the people. It is a globalist form of government introduced worldwide, and in the USA as well, who has a democratic constitution. The constitution was the inspiration from which the Norwegian constitution was composed; For a kingdom with a monarchy instead of a republic (president) in which the monarch has considerable less powers than the president.
The parties subsequently captured the power of the people, so that in effect Norway became a dictatorship, ie. the king had no real powers, neither does the people. (A grand dictatorship design of the Rothschild syndicate).
The constitution was made into a mockery.
A recent example of the typical norwegian top politicians is Kjell Magne Bondevik. Recieved orders to bomb Serbia that was carried out with deep disrespect for international law on behalf of the globalist syndicate.
Some facts.
Kjell Magne Bondevik (Christian Folk Party) supported Bill Clinton Foundation with 1 billion Nok of taxpayer money while prime minister of Norway. Received a third of the cost (8 million NOK) of establishing Oslo Center for Peace, from the Clinton Foundation, establishing the Oslo Center, ie. Bondevik Center, after retiring from his top job in politics. While still in office he scrubbed government budget support for real peace centers that was consequently forced to shut down.
Bondevik was also recruited by UN in 2006 by Kofi Annan, reward by globalist syndicate.
Bondevik met with Jeffrey Epstein at the New York Mansion while Prime Minister of Norway, and it appears that pres. Bill Clinton flew with the “Lolita Express” to promote Clinton Foundation in Norway.
https://www.aftenposten.no/verden/i/XgaPEB/bill-clinton-floey-til-norge-paa-jeffrey-epsteins-privatfly-der-spiste
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From 1919 until 1939 a third or more of today’s Belarus was part of Poland.The Russian Empire had regained the area of Belarus,during the 18th Century.It had been a part of ancient Rus taken by Lithuania and later Poland during and after the Mongol Invasion of Russia.When the Rus states were weak and disunited.During the first period of foreign rule the Poles attempted to convert the Belorussians into Poles.Most of the upper classes became Catholic,and started to speak Polish.But the vast bulk of the people remained Orthodox and spoke various West Russian dialects.After Poland re-seized the territory at the end of WWI they resumed their attempts to assimilate the Belorussians. But this time with little results.In 1939 the USSR took back the territory and combined it with the other Belorussian areas,and it has remained there until today. At the end of WW2 many of the Poles and assimilated Poles from there and from Western Ukraine were sent to Poland.But in Belarus many of them stayed.The Poles and assimilated Poles who by then considered themselves Poles remained in that third of Belarus.With some of them I feel moving to Minsk as well.From reports I’ve seen the riots and anti-government protests are centered mostly in the areas of high Polish densities and in Minsk.If I was looking for many of the culprits involved in this color revolution,I’d be combing that area for them.
Thanks for information uncle Bob.
Full integration of Belarus into the Russian Federation will be a strategic geopolitical mistake. Belarus will then become a bigger albatross around Russia’s neck then Crimea. This will arouse fears of the revival of Russian expansionism, this time with a Russia armed with doomsday weapons of mass destruction and which come with well repeated willingness to use them.
The better (and correct course) is for Russia to help revive Belarus’ economy, find the right competent leaders with integrity and help them get installed.
Otherwise a Belarus integrated with Russia and dependent on Russia economically will mean Russia taking a step in the direction taken by the late great USSR.
But Russia herself has her own issues with economically competent leadership with integrity. Putin himself may be competent politically and economically. But the lower echelons appear lacking.
So Russia must demonstrate that she can both help herself and Belarus economically and financially at the same time if Russia wants to integrate Belarus into the Russian Federation – a tall order given the present circumstances.
” …Lukashenko who, yet again, praises Putin and Russia and who is now playing nice hoping that the Kremlin will forget what just happened (it won’t)”
:))) I like the way you write :)
The Ukraine lesson was not learnt. Much of the same as Georgia’s. To “act” the Crimean way is impossible. Negotiating Lukashenko’s exit and holding some sort of referendum on joining Russia seem only viable option. Then the “Lublin Triangle” would share the spoils of “Bielorussia”.
“….holding some sort of referendum on joining Russia seem only viable option.”
What happens when (not if, when) the Belarus people reject annexation by Russia in that referendum? In Crimea a referendum could be held because it was a safe bet; Russia know perfectly well that the overwhelming majority, almost 100%, of Crimeans would choose accession to Russia. Is there even a 1% assurance that the people of Belarus will choose annexation by neoliberal capitalist Putinist regime Russia? What will Russia do when that “some sort of referendum” returns an overwhelming “nyet”?
Considering previous elections in Belorus, I am sure that Lukashenka can get result of 100% people for annexation as well as 100% people against it just as he chooses
Belarus retained many elements of the soviet economic model and is an example that USSR could have continued to exist and prosper with some or minimal reforms.
Belarus also avoided the neoliberal chaos of the 1990s that decimated so many post-soviet countries including Russia & Ukraine.
If Belarus had followed the Baltic States model (neoliberalism & EU integration), then today it would have only 6-7 million population as most of the population would have fled the country & the industrial base would have collapsed. Baltic States have lost about 30-40% of their population
Russia also would have benefitted greatly if it had followed a similar economic model to Belarus..
None of the bloodshed and social devastation of the Yeltsin period would have happened.
Of course the Belarus economic model was also sustained by Russian subsidies & cheap oil imports.
While Russia wants more integration, one question is if Russia will preserve the soviet style belarussian economic model?
Or will Russia push for integration and economic liberalization ? Will the Russian oligarchs take ownership of the Belarussian state owned companies?
On the other hand, a Belarus orientation towards the West will be a disaster as it will cause an economic collapse, mass privatization, population exodus… Similar to Bulgaria
So my guess is that Lukashenko position is that of a balance between Russia and West like Yugoslavia during cold war ….
Can you give a source to the claim that Baltic states have lost 30-40% of their population?
Just check Wikipedia for population statistics
All eastern European countries have suffered population losses & Baltic states too
Lithuania
1990 3.7 million
2020 2.7 million
Latvia
1990 2.6 million
2020 1.8 million
Estonia
1990 1.6 million
2020 1.3 million
The so called Baltic tigers are depopulated rapidly due to low births, high emigration, high death rates. Unemployment, De-industrialisation & economic upheaval after Soviet dissolution is the main cause as well as emigration into EU
Further population losses are predicted for the future
Same case is Bulgaria ….
From 10 million in 1990 , now it has a population of 6.7 million
Another disaster is Ukraine, from 48 million in 1990, now it has 40 million or even less
More specifically, what happened to these ”tigers” was that they, right in the wake of ”independence”, were targeted by the Swedish banking sector which went on to drown them in public and private debt as per the standard neoliberal kind of, ahem, development. It nearly collapsed the Swedish economy too since, of course, the banks had to be bailed out by the taxpayers — again strictly in accordance with the standard neoliberal kind of ”development”.
Yes – eastern europe has suffered in population loss – however none of the numbers you gave is 30-40%. Also, if you look for example wikipedia on Estonian demographics, you will see that most of the people who left after 2000 were ethnic russians (who came in a few decades earlier) and concerning the emigration – immigration has exceeded emigration for the last 5 years (mainly people moving within EU but also immigration from Russia and Ukraine). Low birth rate is a common problem not only in eastern europe but also western (lets not forget that birth rate is low in russia too – with the exception of southern regions e.g. chechenia). I dont know what you ment by high death rate – if you were talking about life expectancy then all baltic countries have much better life expectancy the russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy). Unemployment rate is similar to european average (https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/unemployment-rate?continent=europe) and is ~7-8%. All baltic countries have better GDP then russia (https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/).
Nussiminen – finland is as much “independent” country as estonia. whatever these quotation marks mean.
In 1990, the Baltic states had about 8 million residents.
In 2020, they have 5.8 million in total
Population is projected to be declining every year. Youth has emigrated into the west (mainly UK) leaving middle aged or pensioners behind
Total population is about 30% down (but could be even higher as EU statistics are not that accurate)
Similar cases are found all over eastern European countries who transitioned from forms of state socialism to neoliberalism.
We have a “genocide” and not an economic miracle of capitalism.
Of course the issue of population decline is not only an eastern European case.
The so called Capitalist countries of the West South Europe face similar problems as their populations suffer under neoliberalism with high unemployment, austerity, de-industrialisation, low wage growth etc
Estonia has been the best performing of the three – and even its population has declined. The only reason it’s been slightly growing recently is because of immigrants from Latvia and Lithuania. The overall trend is still the same. During the Soviet period both native Balts and ethnic Russians had a growing population. Since then they’ve both been in terminal decline. Baltic people who see this as a success are the perfect example of negative nationalism – they don’t care if they’re worse off just as long as the Russians are too. The biggest threat to the existence of Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian people is population decline, and it’s been caused by joining the EU and NATO and embracing economic neoliberalism.
Regarding death rates, there has been an increase since the USSR broke up. Lithuania, for example, has the highest suicide rate in the world, whereas during the Soviet period it was much lower. GDP per capita and unemployment statistics look better than they really are because so many people have emigrated. If they were still living in the country those statistics would be a lot worse.
I think the reason Nussiminen was implying these countries are not really independent is because they’re in the EU and under NATO occupation. You can’t be truly independent if you’re ruled from a foreign capital and occupied by foreign soldiers. These countries are no more independent now than they were during the Soviet period, they just exchanged one set of foreign rulers for another.
The commission which looked into events in Chicago in the summer of 1968 coined the phrase “police riot”.
Or, to use the Saker’s above account as an example of how to use this phrase: the riot police committed a police riot.
Russia, China, Iran, etc are ruled by uncreative buffoons, that’s the main problem. ZOG will make mince meat out of them. Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer, a guy that radically supports the Russia-China-Iran axis, recently wrote about how the main problem of Iran is that it’s ruled by a gerontocracy of uncreative morons…what he wrote about Iran applies 100% to Russia, China, Belarus, etc.
Integrating Belarus into Russia proper is probably a very bad idea. Neither NATO nor Russia have an interest in more direct borders (the borders between Russia and the Baltics is troublesome enough already). Belarus is a perfect reserve-Russia to have as a nice strategic buffer between the two entities…