Dear friends,
While it is way too early to come to any conclusions about what really happened in Paris, I want to share the following thought with you: President Hollande has just declared that what took place was an act of war. This, in turn, means that the entire NATO alliance could be called in to respond to this (under Article 5). As for the attackers, already one Syrian passport was found, and witnesses say that one of them screamed “for Syria” before opening fire. In other words, this attack has just given NATO a pretext to intervene in Syria. Last, but not least, the only French aircraft carrier was schedule to leave its port this Wednesday. For the Middle-East, precisely.
Coincidences?
You tell me.
The Saker
Almost certainly this was a “Gladio”-style false flag attack intended to justify NATO intervention in Syria. The refugee crisis apparently wasn’t enough, so they went the extra mile to get justification.
This is why Russia put the S-400 in Syria – in response to US sending more air-to-air fighters into the region. Russia can read the tea leaves – they know the only US response to Russia’s operations in Syria is to up the ante because the US can’t afford to have their war with Syria, Israel invasion of Lebanon and eventual war with Iran taken off the table by Russia.
And that means we’re headed directly for a US-Russia confrontation that could lead to WWIII.
The NATO council will be meeting to invoke Article 5 and begin the big war they have been Jonesing for years.
They want to destroy Syria and this will be their excuse.
I would like to see Russia blast the Ukies bombarding Donbass to distract NATO and give them something to think about.
Russia needs to be very strong or the whole thing could collapse in the ME.
Showdown is coming.
Don’ t know if you noticed but France started bombing Syria a few weeks ago now. They need no pretext for war.
You know what i just thought of, if ISIS is involved the the incidents in Paris how come they didn’t have anybody recording it isn’t it there practises to record there terror than post the evidence online and claim responsibility. Now we are hearing this that someone said ISIS is claiming responsibility. Please correct me if I’m wrong. But the attack in Lebanon was recorded by ISIS affiliates and they posted it online and claimed responsibility.
NO TO SYMBOLS OF COLONIALISM, JINGOISM & RACISM!
I really find it absurd that some of my Facebook friends who claim to be progressive and some who even call themselves socialist are now displaying the French flag on their Fb photo ID. Let me inform you that the French flag is the highest symbol of a country that happens to be imperialist. It is a symbol that has been despised by people in Africa, Asia as well as in the Western Hemisphere, most notably in Haiti and Mexico.
To have sympathy for innocent victims in the senseless mass killings in Paris, France on Friday, November 13th does not require you to wave or display the colors of French imperialism. Having a moral sense for the loss of human life, on the one hand, and raising the symbol of one of the greatest tyrants in the world, on the other are contradictory to one another.
Like U.S. imperialism, French imperialism is no better. Just examine the history of atrocities committed by France in all of the continents since the beginning of colonialism and you will agree that there is no reason for us to have sympathy for human life by raising a symbol dreaded by millions of oppressed people throughout the world.
You can feel certain that the French rulers plan to exploit the circumstances created by these tragic events to promote an intensified Jingoism, just like what U.S. rulers did following the horrors of September 11, 2001.
Mossad at work masters of ceremonies and no else, the USA is merely a beast to ride upon! Make no mistake! Destabilise EU, while chaos is reigning, the [RKM] operating in invisibility, blackmailing and threatening EU not to side with Russia, a clear warning to other EU countries of the worst to come if they do not remain committed to their Zionist’s global agenda, to speed up New World Government lead by the Apartheid State, our future masters, and we the goyim heading to the abattoirs for a slaughter, if we refuse to serve and obey. Russian, Iran, China, and many other undeclared Eastern Alliance is having a drastic affect against this evil cabal, the effect is asphyxiating, ruining and derailing their protocol 15 and the ultimate prize of Global Enslavement, after they were checkmated in Syria, and elsewhere, now they are fighting back and resorting to demeaning, heinous and cowardice tactics in desperation. USrael’s end is in sight. But if it goes bad there will be no winners.
sneaky, unaccountable ego-driven drone strikes just continue damage caused by the US in the Middle East
and result in Terror strikes as in Paris….
the way forward
stop US, Nato, zionist Israel, Saudi Arabia and other “allies” (Egypt military regime…) military and covert operations in the Middle East !!!
Meanwhile, back in Syria…
I see very little on the Syria conference in Vienna and also the Russian response- maybe a bit early but still…
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/trade-society/french-government-will-not-sign-ttip-agreement-2015-310037
I wonder what’s their position now. That news is exacly one year old.
While I deeply regret the loss of innocent and indiscriminate loss of life in Paris, I must say that there has been too much French medling in ME affaires. This means that in some ways French govenrments had some axe to grind in the area. First Libya then Syria. Holland’s pronouncements about bombing Syria a few days ago caused me to ask what would have the French reaccion been if Hassad had made a similar declaration about bombing France. What busines have Hollande or the French people in Syria?
When you rattle a sabre you must expect a reaction; when it was announced announced to send the only aircraft carrier in Syrian waters one is entitled to ask WHAT FOR?
I suspect the the colonialist streak is still present in France and the French people should either stop the government or suffer the consequences of a war they have initiated in the first place.
My suggestion to all is: STAY AT HOME and get on with your peaceful lives.
The empire is desperate. The muppet of the President of France Mr. Hollande just read what was passed to him “France has just suffered an act of war from IS” (of course he is referring to IS ‘in Syria’. So evident this new french false flag….
Hollande — quel con. “Je suis un perroquet”.
The question in my mind is not what will NATO do now, but what will Russia/Syria/Iran/Iraq/Hezbollah do?
There is no such thing as a ‘coincidence.’
Thank you for the “way too early” admonition.
This could be another false-flag operation.
The only thing we know is that all of our sources of information are habitual lying media who copy government manipulation and serve it up as journalism. Their aim is always to deceive us, the “outsider” audience. They are presenting scenarios designed to motivate us to support invasion and occupation of Syria.
We do not know who the perpetrators.are. We have been shown no sure evidence that ISIS-Daesh was even involved, and if involved, what manipulation of what factions may have brought it together.
They tell us that “all attackers” have been killed. How could anyone know? They have also given us varying reports that “all attakers” numbered either 7 or 8, in at least 6 locations. There was also a report of an arrested suspect who we are told said he was with ISIS and returned from Syria. Is this suspect dead? Some of the TV footage showed cops dragging off arrested apparent civilians in the background. Are they dead? No explanation or even mention was made.
On Oct. 27, 2015, Deborah Lee James, the U.S. Secretary of the Air Force, according to Yahoo News, called for boots on the ground in Syria, explaining that in regard to air power alone, “ultimately it cannot occupy territory and very importantly it cannot govern territory.”
The U.S. has sent illegally sent what it admits are at least 50 special forces ground troops into Syria, without Syria’s permission, with more possibly to follow. The precedent is already set.
The event in Paris was declared as an act of war by French President Hollande, and vow to wage a global fight “against ISIS”, and the event seems to provide a commanding pretext.
Dear Saker,
Thinking in retrospect, there may be more going on than meets the eyes…
Concerning the Russian diplomacy, I think we should be asking: ‘who loses?’ Which country in the ME has the most to lose? I think we know the answer…
The sordid terrorist acts of the recent weeks – the downing of Kogalymavia Flight 9268, the bombings in Lebanon, and now the Paris’ attacks –, as well as the continuing engineering of intense migration from the Middle East to Europe, may well have been orchestrated in the ME without US direct involvement (except for the sneak participation of the zionist agents in the US – they would never stop). These desperate acts may well be just that: acts of despair and vengeance from the sick minds of those corralled by the Russian diplomacy.
In a debate yesterday, in the US, published this morning by Sputnik, Hillary Clinton said that “[IS] cannot be contained; it must be defeated”; that “[military action] must be used as a last resort”; and that “It cannot be an American fight… we will support those who will take the fight to [ISIL]”.
What to make of this?
Such a surprising statement, in my view, should be taken as an indication that the US is indeed determined to a ‘soft landing’, as Rostislav Ischenko suggested in his remarkable article on the demise of the Pax Americana (published in many sites and languages)! It makes a lot of sense, if we think this way.
Additionaly, in my view, Hollande’s declarations that the attacks were ‘an act of war’, should be seen as genuine and did not imply a reaction against Syria; but, perhaps against IS… In which case, we should not worry about NATO’s involvement, either (yes, I do not trust NATO…). Too much optimism, here?
Best regards.
More than declarations claiming ISIS (Da’esh) to be a West’s target, I would be specially alert instead to further attempts in making distinctions between supposedly “moderate” and “radical” armed groups fighting SAA. I think that would be a better indicator.
from the Vienna statement:
“The ceasefire would not apply to offensive or defensive actions against Da’esh or Nusra or any other group the ISSG agrees to deem terrorist.”
“(…) the ISSG reiterated that Da’esh, Nusra, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the UN Security Council, and further, as agreed by the participants and endorsed by the UN Security Council, must be defeated.”
These are still open ended definitions. And curiously:
“The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan agreed to help develop among intelligence and military community representatives a common understanding of groups and individuals for possible determination as terrorists”
There is still plenty of room for the interests of the Syrian people be betrayed by the US and its vassals, despite the facts on the ground suggesting they’ll have a hard time furthering their objectives.
Sidepoint regarding the european refugee crisis appears to be addressed:
“The ISSG expressed concern for the plight of refugees and internally displaced persons and the imperative of building conditions for their safe return in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law and taking into account the interests of host countries.”
Thank you for the comment Vasco da Gama (interesting name…). You seem to be worried about the extermination of the terrorists. Let’s examine this issue:
We think the terrorists are an amorphous group of jihadists with a similar purpose: to defeat the Syrian government and decimate the ‘infidels’. IF this is so, and IF they share the same purpose – that is, a ‘radical’ purpose –, THEN they (the terrorists) can be classified in the SAME CATEGORY: they are all ‘radicals’. Hence, the distinction between ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’ is tendentious to say the least; but, for the masterminds of the whole thing, it can be used as ‘a way to get away with murder’, literally. Besides, they may have the chance to re-organize and start over the whole thing later, unless they lose their sponsors.
I said that I thought the recent terrorist acts may be just ‘acts of despair and vengeance from the sick minds of those corralled by the Russian diplomacy.’ But, WHO is corralled? ‘Which country in the ME has the most to lose?’ As I said, I think we know it – and, yes, they are the masterminds and their sponsors! As to the sponsors, they may well be running away by now, as they can see that the diplomatic talks are progressing and their days are numbered…
For this reason, I would not worry about the distinction between ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’. Besides, the ‘terrorists’ are just deprived, brainwashed (fanatical) mercenaries, killing and dying, in exchange for cash, for the ones that are masterminding the whole operation. The most brutal killers are also the most brainwashed, the robots – they are NOT the minds behind the whole thing. Moreover, as reported in Fort Russ yesterday, Russia is going for the sponsors, now. Let’s start to enjoy the show!
“You seem to be worried about the extermination of the terrorists.”
You’re misinterpreting me, I said “further attempts in making distinctions between supposedly “moderate” and “radical” armed groups fighting SAA” to be taken as a better indicator of US’ determination in a “soft landing”. I am not the one busy with the distinctions, just pointed out that according to the Vienna statement efforts will be made to that effect. As far as I’m concerned the armed groups fighting in Syria have conducted a terror campaign against syrians for years now, they’re terrorists.
“For this reason, I would not worry about the distinction between ‘radicals’ and ‘moderates’.”
Exacly, but those which created, armed and funded them will have reserves about that.
“Moreover, as reported in Fort Russ yesterday, Russia is going for the sponsors, now.”
Which, I expect, will only write in stone precisely the absence of distinction between such groups and the objectives/entities they were meant to serve.
Vasco da Gama,
I had not said anything about ‘distinctions between supposedly “moderate” and “radical” armed groups’ in my initial comment (on November 15, 2015 at 10:24 am UTC )… This is the reason why I suggested that you were ‘worried about the extermination of the terrorists’ – you were the one who started talking about this! I think that you misinterpreted my comment totally, or perhaps you posted your comment in the wrong place…
In summary, my initial comment was about the despair of the masterminds of the most recent attacks against Russia, Lebanon, France… I mentioned Clinton’s disguised acknowledgement of the success of the Russian diplomacy when she said that the US should not be involved in the fight against the terrorists in Syria, and I suggested that her statement should be taken as an indication that the US is indeed determined to a ‘soft landing’, as Rostislav Ischenko suggested in his article on the demise of the Pax Americana.
You will be welcome if you want to make any observation about that initial comment.
“I suggested that her statement should be taken as an indication that the US is indeed determined to a ‘soft landing’, as Rostislav Ischenko suggested in his article on the demise of the Pax Americana.”
The view that some of the opponents “wish” for a soft landing has merit.
“Determination” carries connotations of sole or prime agency – a retention of the opponents’ notions of “exceptionalism” and the “can do attitude” which often presents as hubris, and perhaps should best be avoided.
However sole or primary agency does not exist in any lateral system, although there is merit in encouraging the presumptions of opponents that sole or primary agency can/does exist.
You will likely have noted the prevalence of such presumptions whether held consciously or unconsciously..
Perhaps Mr. Ischenko did not pay due regard to some salient questions in his recent article.
The questions include but are not necessarily limited to:
1. Does a drowning man suit your purpose?
2. If not how to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback?
Change is constant, and amongst the key variables are trajectory and velocity.
Consequently any evaluation needs to pay due regard to variable velocity and requires variable evaluation horizons.
In amplification
https://audioboom.com/boos/3820929-mon-11-16-15-hr3-strategic-patience-mary-kissel-wall-street-journal-editorial-board-host-of-opinion-journal-on-wsj-video-molly-o-toole-defense-one-michael-ledeen-fdd-larry-johnson-no-quarter.mp3?source=rss&stitched=1
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/322247-mourning-victims-paris-attack/
No worries Rita, misunderstandings happen. My thoughts get muddy sometimes.
“Too much optimism, here?”
Clinton merely restated the Vienna position in that regard. I can only simplify my take by advising cautious optimism instead, for the reasons within my first response.
“advising cautious”
It would appear that many commentators on this blog have limited or no experience in matters of strategy and/or strategists.
I purposely did not extend the quote from your text to include “optimism” since that is not generally within the lexicon of strategists given that it is a form of emoting generally predicated upon prejudgements/prejudices.
Some commentators also appear to conflate analyst with strategist.
Analysis informs part of the activities of strategists, but these activities are not restricted to analysis.
Excercising caution is a synonym of excercising wisdom.
I therefore suggest the link below may be of interest.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/11/beware-of-analysts-how-to-assess.html
I realise that this may appear that some are punching different numbers.
There is lots of high level talk about Article 5 in Britain and US. They will invoke it if they can.
Don’t be naive to NATO’s utter uselessness if it can’t bomb and cruise missile some place on a regular basis.
They hunger for an air war. They have no taste for ground war and have no Navy per se. They really really really want to bomb again.
These Brussels freaks salivate over bombing. Visceral. Like the Viagra has given them a woody.
That missile barrage from the Caspian fleet must have induced a Premature E. in most of them.
Penis Envy.
At least one part of the Charlie Hebdo affair was a hoax– the “shooting” of the cop on the sidewalk.
I’m quite sure the Boston Bombing was a hoax. Two people took photos from office overlooking area where crisis actors awaited their turn with the photographer.
http://deepinsidetherabbithole.com/The_Boston_Bombing_Hoax.html Requires least patience, spoon-fed w identifying captions.
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/ This is where more photographic evidence of fraud is. Requires patience.
So far, this Parisian event doesn’t look real to me, but maybe I haven’t seen the right footage.
This doesn’t seem likely. Not that it isn’t a plausible reason for a NATO false flag, its just that any retaliation against the Islamic State could be made in Iraq, if an alliance with Syria is vertboten.
Its just inconceivable that a large-scale violation of Syrian sovereignty could be made as this is a precedent against all the other non-hegemonic powers. More likely, its an attempt to counter the flagging support for the NATOs regime change wars.
Canada, for example, wants out and her new Prime Minister hasn’t committed to extending its air mission, while Europe wants nothing to do with regime change migrants, who otherwise would not pass as economic refugees.
Still, you could be on to something, since I’ve tried five times to post a message along these lines, linked to your post, to washingtonsblog and been deleted every single time.
Clearly, the uncomfortable truth is sometimes just a little too truthful.
Jeez already on the conspiracy theory…
Another one: Hollande is so tired to be in power he wants to give Marine le Pen a nice boost for the next elections….
Ironically, its not implausible that people like Hollande are tiring of fronting for psycho Deep State politics and being the face of the NWO to their countrymen.
A succession of Western leaders are going down in history as ‘worst one ever’ in their respective nations. This is not ‘bad guy’ cool; people like Tony Blair are remembered as total losers. Even psychopaths feel deeply – for themselves.
While its not clear how for gone European nations are, a quick look at American politics suggests the neocons are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for representative agents in that country, Republican or Democrat.
Brockland, US politics, after decades where the supreme and indispensable requirement was an unquestioning love of and obedience to Israel no matter what it did, has selected for just this species of gibbering imbeciles we currently see on display. Other degrading factors come into it as well, but that I believe is the supreme influence.
Like the 9/11 attacks, the secret services have miraculously found the “passport” of one of the supposed terrorists. But why a suicide bomber will want to carry a passport ?
According to what the US authorities stated in 2001, even though the airplane smashed into the tower and the tower later (suspiciously) collapsed, they managed to find in excellent condition the passport of the hijacker ! Completely ridiculous but with mass media propaganda everything could become believable to the majority of the public.
The paris attack seems to be another false flag operation. Even the Charlie Hebdo attack’s official narrative has many inconsistencies. The same is true about 9/11, that if examined closely it seems to be a badly executed false flag (building 7 demolition etc ) that gave the US the pretext to invade several countries.
Everything happened in a suspiciously convenient time for the NWO, as the western governments plans for Assad’s removal were failing.
After the failed false flag with the chemical attack in Syria, and because of Russian intervention, the NWO desperately
wanted a pretext to invade Syria so as to save their mercenaries and to de facto divide Syria.
We as citizens cannot feel or be safe. The evil governments of the various western countries will not hesitate to slaughter their innocent citizens with various false flag operations.
Even the “refugee” crisis is completely fake and is organized by the western elites with the help of Turkey and Greece’s pseudo-left puppet government of Tsipras.
The corporate media distort reality and brainwash people by showing only images of children and women. In reality, most of the “refugees” are not Syrians and they look like mercenaries. How do the elites plan to use them in the future ?
We are not safe in our countries as long as the evil elites of the NWO are in charge.
States engage in false flag operations. States infiltrate terrorist organisations. This may be a false flag operation. They do not control the terrorists. Terrorists have their own motives. Some operations are not false flag. This may not be a false flag operation. A ferocious amount of speculation has gone on here despite insufficient evidence. Is it not a misguided expense of time and energy?
The American regime and its allies have a long rap sheet of false flag terrorist attacks, of which 9-11 is the best example.
Indeed, 9-11 was the Reichstag Fire that allowed America and its allies to launch the bogus War on Terrorism that has spawned the likes of ISIS.
So in this case, it is aboslutely necessary to ask whether the Paris attacks were another false flag terror attack to whip up public support for an escalation of aggression against Syria.
My family are from Paris and the attack on Paris was a personal attack on myself, so whoever is responsible will hopefully burn in Hell for eternity.
Je suis Paris.
Hey Chris, I am from NZ and the attack on the Rainbow warrior by french spies was an attack on al Kiwis.
Care to guess what I think?
As in 9/11/2001 and 7/7/2005, every properly-organized terrorist outrage must involve the kind of miraculous coincidences, that poorly-indoctrinated persons would interpret as evidence of foreknowledge or complicity:
(from Global Research)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-were-prepared-large-military-exercise-took-place-on-same-day-as-paris-terrorist-attacks/5489164
FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG FALSE FLAG scream pretty much everyone here. What is the evidence?
1) these guys were obviously superbly trained superhuman professionals killers on an impossibly well-synchronized complex operation.
– Really? Based on what evidence? Obviously, they were able to obtain and use military weapons. Apart from that, all they had to do is open fire on unarmed civilians in cafés, restaurants and a concert hall, roughly at a similar time. The guys who went at the Stade de France, through sheer luck for us and dumbassery on their part, only managed to kill one person apart from themselves when they blew themselves up.
2) cui bono arguments. Apparently goes like this: NATO and/or other nefarious occult powers need a pretext for attacking Syria so this provides a needed justification for their goal.
– first of all cui bono arguments are incredibly weak. If you can concoct a story where someone apparently derives a benefit from an action, apparently you have just unmasked the perpetrators, no further, tangible evidence needed. You can take a victory lap in comments sections.
– in this specific case, the case is almost incomprehensible. The US and/or France and/or other NATO countries is already bombing Syria. Their stated policy for years now has been that Assad has to go and some “moderate opposition” has to replace Assad. But the Islamic State is too extreme for their tastes and they are blowing it up regularly. This might or not be a wise policy, but it’s theirs. They do not need a manufactured massacre in Paris to… keep doing what they are already doing. ISIL has claimed responsibility for the operation. Are they lying, or is ISIL also part of the conspiracy, and if so, who exactly is left on planet Earth not in on the conspiracy? If anything, the bombings may make it a larger priority to crush ISIL and make keeping Assad in place more palatable. Is that part of the objectives of the false flag operation?
France has been arming and funding terrorist abroad while telling people at home they are fighting them. The people do not want war…..But the French elite do want their grubby paws on Syria again. They are making money the old fashioned way.. Rape and plunder. Do you recall the glee of Sarkozy and Cameron after Libya was sacked? They were over there before the blood even dried looking for contracts with their new proxy governments. The reality before your eyes is what you should believe. Not the narrative spun for you by State and War Dept or what they taught you in kindergarten.
RR
3) the passport.
– I have been extremely watchful for this part of the story, and nowhere in any news report has there been anything more said than a Syrian passport has been found near the body of one one the suicide bombers. If there was any attempt to use doctored evidence for any purpose there would be more specific data and charges. None has ever been given. To my naive self, this is just reporting on an ongoing investigation. Yeah, you might find this hard to believe that an ID was found, yet there is no such thing as “proof by personal incredibility”. Obviously, it is well known that there is an industry of fake Syrian passports going on, since owning one opens the doors to Europe as a bona fide asylum-seeking refugee, and the police is still investigating about the passport and what they can identify of the body and any link between them.
– I remember the snorts of derision when at the time of the Charlie Hebdo massacre the authorities announced that they had found an ID of one of the killers in a car they had left behind. False flag! False flag! Laughable incredibly lame false flag! It turned out that the ID was of one of the Kouachi brothers, that they were quickly traced, surrounded and went down in a hail of bullets. Is there anyone still viewing the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a false flag operation as proven by the manufacture of fake ID? If so, can anyone explain to my own dumb naive self what is the official conspiracist take on the events? The Kouachi brothers were:
– there was never any such thing as real Kouachi brothers. This was all a fiction, part of the false flag operation
– the Kouachi brothers are real, but they actually were super secret agents on a multi-year mission of infiltrating jihadist circles.
– there are real Kouachi brothers, but they never did the actions that was attributed to them. The killing was done by CIA or Mossad agents or God knows who. My mind boggles at this point. Were the guys killed in Dammartin-en-Goële those very same agents killed by their bosses to shut them up? If not, who were they? Were the widows of the Kouachi brothers part of the conspiracy? Was the police? Nothing seems to make any sort of sense.
Or is it haha, sure the internet was full of uninformed losers screaming false flag at the time for THAT incident, but this time, this Syrian passport business truly is ludicrous and this one is for real.
The False Flag Link: Passport “Found” Next To Suicide Bomber Was “Definitely A Forgery” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-15/false-flag-link-passport-found-next-suicide-bomber-was-fake-claim-us-french-sources
Shit! I forgot my Passport!
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/IMG_5125_0.JPG
@ milosevic on November 15, 2015 · at 4:50 pm UTC
You report that “the French military conducted a “multi-site” military exercise in Paris”
I read the original articles in their original French, and the english version you quote is distorting what was said. The military was NOT conducting a military exercise in Paris. Emergency medical services had been doing an exercise, like all emergency services do periodically. Stop granting globalresearch.ca any credibility, it’s just a disinformation outlet.
Apparently some of the terrorists had fakeTurkish passports. So how do a bunch of rag-tag terrorists get FAKE PASSPORTS? Those must have been very good fakes; they had to get through French controls with them. So here’s a theory: Turkey is a NATO member and no doubt it wants NATO in Syria to route out the Russians, and Erdogan wants to do Hollande a favor and so Hollande is readying to invoke Article 5 and voila!: you have an invasion of a sovereign country.
BUT, legally technically speaking if terrorists are considered stateless enemy combatants, a convenient justification used for holding them at GITMO beyond the reach of the rule of law, then you can’t have it both ways; you can’t attack a sovereign nation when the attack perpetrated on French soil was carried out by stateless enemy combatants some of whom were even French citizens and no doubt citizens of other countries Saudi Arabia included all involved in the Syria agenda!
Of course there is another way they got those FAKE PASSPORTS. As mentioned there are several countries that want Russia out of Syria, including Israel, and which organization carries out extra-judicial executions in other countries using fake passports? Obviously an organization like Mossad that has years of secret ops experience in Syria has no problem working with anyone as they are with Al-Nusra and providing the necessary tools to get a job done.
So the attacks in Paris and the motive and the opportunity are very suspect indeed.
God points.
Just want to emphasize, even if a Syrian passport was found beside a body this cannot be used as an excuse to justify a NATO invasion of Syria. Russia can oppose this absurd move at the Security Council, but that it shouldn’t have to come down to what would constitute a derisive, baseless, legally unfounded move since an entire invasion can’t be based on one passport dropped beside a corpse; and no one knows if it actually belonged to that individual; it could have been conveniently left there, stolen or it could be a fake passport.
Besides, so far these terrorists were citizens of a combination of countries: France, Egypt, Belgium, Turkey and allegedly, Syria. No way can NATO Article 5 be invoked to invade the sovereign country of Syria when the terrorists were citizens of so far 5 different countries.
So Hollande can stick his Article 5 up his hairy, fat a…. s where the sun don’t shine!
@ Circe:
“Apparently some of the terrorists had fakeTurkish passports. So how do a bunch of rag-tag terrorists get FAKE PASSPORTS? [..]”
And?!?!?
How do hundreds of thousands of riff-raffs getting into Europe get hold of fake passports!?!
It’s been known for months now, that these “refugees” often carry fake papers. And that’s when they have any papers at all…
Syrians Seeking Asylum in West Use Fake Passports Along the Way
http://www.wsj.com/articles/syrians-seeking-asylum-in-west-use-fake-passports-along-the-way-1446420293
ISIS Terrorist Arrested in Stuttgart “Refugee” Center; “Boxes” of Fake Syrian Passports Intercepted
http://newobserveronline.com/isis-terrorist-arrested-in-stuttgart-refugee-center-boxes-of-fake-syrian-passports-intercepted/
PASSPORT TO TERROR: [17/09/15] MailOnline reporter buys Syrian papers being sold to ISIS fighters sneaking into Europe hidden among refugees
*Reporter bought $2,000 Syrian passport, ID card and driving licence in Turkey under the name of a real man who was killed in the conflict
*Forger boasted that ISIS fighters are using documents to travel to Europe to start terror sleeper cells or live under false name free of past crimes
*Also being used by economic migrants from other countries exploiting generosity of Europe to Syrian refugees
* EU border official admits fraud is rising and bigger than first thought
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3235320/PASSPORT-TERROR-MailOnline-reporter-buys-Syrian-papers-sold-ISIS-fighters-sneaking-Europe-hidden-refugees.html
RT: 1 in 3 ‘Syrian’ refugees have fake IDs, German authorities admit
https://www.rt.com/news/316570-eu-false-syrian-refugees/
-TL2Q
Confirmation now in that Paris attacks were false flag.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-were-prepared-large-military-exercise-took-place-on-same-day-as-paris-terrorist-attacks/5489164
Because nothing says ‘False Flag’ like a ‘takfiri terror cell’ planning their exercise on the exact same day as the ‘government terror cell’.
All for the Golan Heights?
The only thing that will stop the Western-Zionist alliance is sheer force.
And this sheer force will come in the form of a nuclear confrontation.
This is their destiny, this is what they deserve.
Their arrogance, hubris, corruption and oppression has reached unbearable levels, unlike anything in human history.
Unfortunately I feel you are correct. It’s a great shame that many innocents will have to die. Even in non western nations.
@jackJC on November 15, 2015 · at 9:32 pm UTC
“Confirmation now in that Paris attacks were false flag”
Confirmation based on the same bogus article deliberately lying about the original doctor quote.
Look guys, there are sites that exist just to provide addicts their daily dose of conspiracy porn. You’re not actually confusing some post on the internet with evidence, are you?
Breathe deeply and take a walk around the block, then think this through.
Hypothesis A: a government would be willing to kill hundreds of its own citizens. But would refuse to do it unless its military forces had held a drill to prepare for an emergency on the very same day. When you instruct your armed forces to commit a civilian bloodbath, you just have to have your medical services to be freshest from training because… just because OK?
Hypothesis B: there was a preparedness exercise of medical services on that day. Big deal.
Which seems more likely to you?
@Moquelin:
If you are scratching the powerful topic of probability theory, are you sure you know what this is and that you understand it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_theory
If so, then maybe you can answer a few questions:
Why do such rare specialized trainings co-incide with the Boston-bombings, London-bombings, the Madrid-bombings (in Sweden were also many odd contradictions) and also in case of 9/11 such trainings where they reason why NORAD was not ready exactly on this day for the first time in history?
Let alone that the only french carrier left for the ME 2 days _before_ the attacks.
What’s your probability now?
To say it with your words, there are always some sheeple requiring their daily dose of posting “this is all bs”.
That left aside: I agree with you that one can never re-check as much as possible as often as possible. But your post was way over the top.
Probability never entered my post. Plausibility and Occam’s razor did.
Why should there be any connection between medical preparedness exercices, which are routine, and a secret false flag operation? Why is having such exercices a proof that the French government wishes to kill its own citizens? If it wanted to kill them, why would it insist that emergency preparation be taken the morning of the attack? “Because, if you want to make a bloodbath, you REQUIRE the body count to be minimized… erh I mean… maximized… erh, … (waving hands) don’t you see how suspicious it is? TWO events? The same day? In a huge metropolis? What are the odds?”
Imagine you are in charge of a top-secret operation to massacre as many of your compatriots as possible. You instruct your army of… a handful of jihadist riff-raffs to strike on the afternoon of the 13th. Yet before you strike, there is a requirement for you to also order emergency preparedness exercices in the morning, because… I’m trying to understand. Apparently this makes total sense to you. Explain to me!
Actually the CDG ship will leave Toulon next Wednesady for the Persian gulf after maintenance, not has left last week. Does this change your probability calculation?
Of course we can continue this exercice. Obama sneezed one week before the attacks. A bear shat in the woods **the day before the attacks**. Where is your probability now?
Ask not why there was an emergency exercise the day of a FF attack, but why should planners (some small subset of the government, or someone else with some inside information) schedule a FF attack for the day of a previously planned exercise?
I’m not saying that this is what happened, but that asking the question in that way puts in a different context. It’s easier to hide a thing among similar things, and to do an unusual thing disguised as part of some other unusual thing.
One should not assume that a terrorist group is the whole or significant part of a government or agency, or that it has the authority to order a preparedness exercise. If I wanted to shoot someone, for example, even though I can’t have the town set off a fireworks display, I can wait for a celebration where there will be fireworks and thus have the gunshot disguised as one bang among many others, confusing the event.
Thinking things through is often more involved than first seems and entails many possible hypotheses.
I seldom deal with trolls – or attack bots for that matter.
Your allusion to the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ along with you name tells me you are probably a paid troll from either of these two companies.
http://www.rendon.com/ which actually is paid by governments to mould thinking of the population at large into strategic mindsets supporting the government.
or http://scl.cc/ which is in the same business.
Here’s an article for you to read – note the author – on how these things are done.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/17/operating-in-a-noisy-environment/
Statistically, it is far outside the range of probability for a terrorist attack to coincide with a government training exercise on the same day, in the same city, covering the exact same scenario planned by the terrorist.
Now please go back under your bridge.
Let’s assume for a minute that you are right. This cannot be random. The fact that there was an exercice in the morning SHOWS that the killing of the evening WAS premeditated by the government. The question I ask is: OK, why? What is the causal relationship between the two? Why is it that, if you want to have a false flag mass murder in the evening, you HAVE to have a medical emergency exercice in the morning. So far, no one has been able to come up with anything. All I read is people going: hmm, *I* see it as weird. Well, sorry but saying something strikes you as improbable is really saying nothing. All sorts of improbable things occur every day. From people winning the lottery, to all sorts of coincidences (The clock did not ring so I was late to work so I decided to take a cab and as I stepped out of the taxi, who did I see? Irene Sanders, the girl I had a huge crush on in 6th grade!)
I ask again: what would be the reason behind having a false flag in Paris? There are allusions to a need for a pretext for NATO to attack Syria. Well, once again, the US and other western countries have been busy dropping bombs over Syria for over a year. Why would they need to murder their own citizens in order to keep doing what they are already doing?
The article that got several people buzzing is clearly LYING. It deliberately inserted thing like this was an ARMY-organized event of MILITARY preparation. Why would it LIE so blatantly? Because it has an audience that WANTS to hear that, and it panders to its audience. Fox news acts the same. It whips its audience into a frenzy: liberals are out there, they control all the media other than us, they are the enemy and they want to KILL US ALL. It distorts stories and outright lies to filter reality to its bias.
Finally, you JackJC and I have different opinions over events. I am trying to have a rational discussion about it. You going out and assuming that anyone who disagrees must be on the payroll of a nefarious corporation is not the sign of a healthy mind.
Let me see, you insult me by accusing me of being a conspiracy porn addict and when you get treated in kind, you then state that I am unbalanced and it’s somehow .. my fault? In future remember that words convey no sense of intent, only impact.
I will answer your questions – this once. First, false flags are arranged during similar exercises because the ‘strange events’ – in this case guys dressed in black, carrying rifles, etc, – can be easily explained as ‘it’s part of the exercise’ to any civilians that may have questions. When the event actually occurs the ‘good guys’ start out by being ‘confused’ and this gives time for the event to take place, followed by – usually – a complete obliteration of the actors. If you read the Dr’s biography in my link you’ll find he was at the Charlie Hebdo shootings – another false flag event but I’ll only give you a hint about this one – AK-47 muzzle energy > cranial intact energy.
If you had looked into the Muslim population in France you would find that roughly 18% of the population of France supports ISIS, about the same popularity level as Hollande himself so for France to go into Syria requires that the mass of population supports the government – what better way than to make it personal? Lastly, France supports the gas pipeline from Qatar through Syria – and that isn’t going to happen on Assad’s watch.
No smoking gun but a preponderance of evidence supporting – the confirmation of a scheduled military exercise was the last piece needed. By the way, ever wonder how those symbols appeared so quickly in response to the event? Or that Brennan visited France just a few days before?
Hey, I can take it, and I can dish it out. Consenting adults. No need to pull your punches, just try to make a stab at rational argument.
First of all, you do realize that the sites you refer to were lying when they said it was an army exercise of military preparation, don’t you? They sloppily, lazily, blatantly distorted the doctor quote while incredibly leaving the original source in, so anyone can hear and see that they are making this up completely. Add in pictures of soldiers in army fatigues for good measure, and the disinformation job is complete. Are we all clear on that? There was no army operation on that day, no guys dressed in black running around carrying rifles. There were ambulances dispatch practice, emergency room triage.
I was wondering how and why those sites could get away with such obvious fraud. This discussion provides an answer. There is a market of people who desperately want it to be true and will lap it up extatically, hook, line and sinker. The words a couple of people used when refering to it is telling. Confirmation. You could not make it clearer that they suffer from confirmation bias. They knew before any evidence arrived that this was false flag, they are just desperate for anything no matter how far-fetched to confirm their faith in governements routinely carrying out massacres of their own citizens. Considering government competence in accomplishing mundane tasks like patching potholes, you get a little skeptical. Then trying to picture Hollande as a cackling, scheming international man of bloodthirsty evil genius… sorry surely there are things no one can mean seriously.
Now that we have laid to rest the legend of special ops and mock bad guys and pink unicorns running around Paris on that day, can you still provide any reason why a government about to ruthlessly massacre its citizens absolutely needs to have ambulance dispatch practice before it unleashes its killers? Suppose that practice had been held, not 10 hours before the attacks, but 10 days, would the attacks been in any way less effective? Would the France-Germany football game at Stade de France been cancelled? Would no one have shown up at the Bataclan for the concert? Would it have prevented the terrorists from driving to the cafés and terrasses and open fire? How?
“Let me see, you insult me by accusing me of being a conspiracy porn addict and when you get treated in kind, you then state that I am unbalanced and it’s somehow .. my fault? In future remember that words convey no sense of intent, only impact.”
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including
“Now please go back under your bridge.”
Thank you for your illustration of some of the opponents’ ideological practices.
In this case including but not necessarily restricted to:
1. The reliance on presumption that a person not agreeing with you is a troll.
2. Perceiving challenge as always aggressive.
3. Perceiving aggression as the default response.
Your opponent mimics some of these ideological practices in
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including
“Hey, I can take it, and I can dish it out.”
Perhaps reading the following link may illuminate further.
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Francois Hollande, by declaring revenge, is proving himself as much of an idiot as George W. Bush after 9/11. western violence is the CAUSE of the problem. Western violence won’t SOLVE the problem. How can these people be so blind?
Some penetrating analyses of the Paris attacks can be found at
Paris Attacks: Causes and Solutions – a Response to Analyst Daniel Lazare
Who Fueled the Terror in Paris and What Should be Done about it Now?
https://quemadoinstitute.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/paris-attacks-causes-and-solutions-a-response-to-analyst-daniel-lazare/
They’re not blind; just committed criminals with political power. It’s no accident the media whores never bring up even any remotely sensible questions, putting emphasis on greed, corruption, and outright criminality. The West is beyond redemption, below contempt. Has to be smashed from without.
My condolences toward the French victims, yet we had a terrorist attack in Macedonia on May 9 which was carried out by up to 50 Albanian terrorists from Kosovo which were neutralised by the decisive action of Macedonian Prime Minister Gruevski, with 8 Macedonian special forces dead and 14 terrorists. The French publication “Le Courrier des Balkans” was among those that claimed the Macedonian Government choreographed the entire event. International news portals laughed at the Macedonian Interior Ministry’s claims that the terrorists had planned to stage multiple attacks on civilian sites with maximum civilian casualties. How ironic that Albanian terrorists could stage an attack from Kosovo when the US military base, Bondsteel was within spitting distance and “knew nothing”, though days later one of the dead Albanian terrorist leader’s photographs emerged with then US ambasador to Macedonia, Volers. Also, the number of dead terrorists was downgraded to 10 after it was revealed that 4 of the dead were 2 American and 2 British handlers/coordinators of the whole saga.
The Paris tragedy clearly showed the world that the war on terror has gone global. If that was not made clear by terror bombings in Baghdad, Beirut, and the Russian airliner occurring in recent weeks, it was hammered home by Paris.
Israel media (debka.com) reports that no western intelligence picked up any signs of the attack plan. The grim message to the world: It could happen anywhere.
For any that still needed to be convinced, the attack also revealed that the greatest threats to the west comes from radical Islam, not from Iran, Russia, or China.
It makes one wonder, what the worth of the much vaunted western intelligence that has been so politicized that it cannot any longer properly identify our main enemies.
“For any that still needed to be convinced, the attack also revealed that the greatest threats to the West come from radical Islam, not from Iran, Russia, or China.”
Dead wrong. The greatest threats to the West come from Russia, China, Iran, and — yes — Syria. The West has nothing on offer except its congenital habit of all-out theft, rape, and murder to make a living. The stiffening resistance and resolve among ever more countries and peoples against Western kakistocracy pose a mortal threat to the latter.
Conversely, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf monarchies, and Turkey are — correctly — not perceived as any threats against the West. The Rent-a-Jihadist monkey business making considerable profits out of Islamofascist dregs in the service of “European values” against “the Assad regime” should be irrefutable proof positive of what threatens the West and what doesn’t.
“It makes one wonder, what the worth of the much vaunted Western intelligence that has been so politicized that it cannot any longer properly identify our main enemies.”
Western imperialism has a very good grasp of who its main enemies are. It’s the Western petty bourgeoisie that doesn’t want to break ranks with the proverbial 1%.
What’s happening in Syria is apocalyptic, whether you believe in anything or not. These games to topple Assad will end everything. Pure madness.
The French Campaign Begins: Hollande Launches “Massive Bombardment” Of ISIS Capital
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-15/french-campaign-begins-hollande-launches-massive-bombardment-isis-capital
Qui Bono …
Syria the Crime of the Century:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/289489837/Syria-The-Crime-of-the-Century
Take the time to read it in its entirety.
That’s what I argued on the Press TV “Debate” show: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/16/debate-paris/
No coincidence at all. No one in the West [not even Russia] is saying a word about the bombardment of a sovereing state without: a) a declaration of war, b) a UN resolution, c) an express authorization from that state legitime authorities [Bashar Al-Assad govenment]. So: the system that was created after WWII to garantee some order and avoid a new world carnage is certificated death. Russia is not in anyway the garantor of the fundamental principle of no intervention [stated in the UN Charter] and of course Russian military has no in any way established an effective no-fly zone in Syria. French military are acting de facto in an imperialistic way, with the support of the US and NATO. What is Russia saying? No-thing. What is China saying? No-thing. What are the BRICS saying? No-thing. Silence is consent. Yielding all the time is not a good course of action if and when you want to change the paradigm of barbarism disguised as civilization. Russia looks increasingly like another imperialist power [a power ad usum], only interested in: a) protect itself and its interests, and b) take its share in the repugnant partition of the world. In a word: just like the same old story and not a new civilizational choice. The logic says it all too well: these are prefabricated attacks planed and directed by the same obscure forces that move the puppets from the shadows: financial oligarchy and the military-industrial complex, plus the ambition, weakness and shortsightedness of the politicians-bureaucrats. Nothing good would come from all that.
@ deepEye:
“No one in the West [not even Russia] is saying a word about the bombardment of a sovereing state without a) a declaration of war, b) a UN resolution, c) an express authorization from that state legitimate authorities [etc]”
^ Ouch! *cringe*
I noticed that myself, to be honest.
Are we supposed to keep quiet about this because France is bombing “ISIS” and Russia, for the time being, seems looking the other way?
It’s these type of mystifying actions from Russia that provide nay-sayers with ammunition to claim that Russia is part and parcel of the ‘New World Order,’ no better and no worse than the current “exceptional” ‘ZioAngloIslamoNazi’ regime…
-TL2Q
Russia is mysterious to be sure, but Russia is not strong enough to be GloboCop, and what’s more, doesn’t even want to be GloboCop.
@ Anon [Nov 17, 2015·at 12:39 am UTC]
That’s a very good point, Anon.
But still… enquiring minds want to know… :)
Will it be another Waterloo for another Frenchman?
Hi, Saker and moderator!
Hello French readers in Paris!
Please waste no time.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to the streets with many banners an´d placars
showing flat response to Obama´s G20 speech!
Like: No, dear Obama for advice! YOur ”values” is one in northern and
quite another in your South borders”.
A few days before the Paris event an American opinion was that the problem of ISIL was due to the problem of Assad….or the usual blame the victim. Look for this meme to become a theme of the upcoming NATO offensive. The nations of NATO act as if there were no sovereign government in Syria with regards to their interventions there. Russia may find the skies very crowded and the ground covered even more with NATO special forces very quickly. Unless there is a western public backlash to the Paris event demanding cooler heads a major shit storm is about to be unleashed by the NATO-Central bankers consortium. Russia will have to escalate the situation by becoming the defender of Syrian sovereignty or see it role in Syria basically negated in my opinion as the diplomatic arena is about to be sabotaged. The open border with Turkey must be sealed asap.
Coincidence my foot! The European Union must respond to this move into a US NATO WW111 by answering independently of the Americans or Europe is over. Russia is not the danger, America is.
It was the eve of the G20; now that is a major coincidence!
….. And Putin, still declared, the West is funding ISIS.
Look to who will benefit from these attacks.
Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey have put enormous amounts of money into allowing Daesh to flourish in Syria in the hope that the government of Bashar al-Assad will fall and thus be able to do their miserable pipeline deal and gain easy access of gas and oil towards Europe.
The air strikes by the French armed forces as with the rest of the “Western” coalition have been halfhearted and inefficient over the past 12 months against Daesh seemingly in the hope that time would see an end to the Syrian state while the coalition would have appeared to have done their politically-correct part.
If we suppose that Qatar and Saudi Arabia might like a more pro-active response from the virulently anti B.al-Assad France to stack the deck in their favor – not necessarily in Daesh’s favor but for the Gulf states ultimate goal – we can easily imagine how they might have encouraged certain elements of Daesh at their purse strings to undertake these heinous acts; to provoke a reaction tending toward intervention of French forces. After all, the dwindling Laurent Fabius has been one of the most agressive prosecutors of military action in Syria against the B. al-Assad government to the point of openly applauding the successes of Jabhat al-Nusra (al-Qaeda).
The heartbreaking irony of this is that Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been courted lavishly by successive French governments which now seems to have been a tragic strategic error.
As always these errors have not touched the elite – ordinary French people have paid the cost of their government serving interests that are not theirs; albeit by lack of vision.The same story in Syria where a foreign campaign of monumental proportions has ignored that by these acts of war and terrorism, the ordinary people of Syria would be in living hell for the last four years or by the same that the ordinary Libyans have been disenfranchised and diminished to insecurity, degredation and squalor since 2011 (Laurent Fabius, Bernard Kouchner*, David Cameron and Bernard-Henri Levy merci !)
François Hollande and his staff should resign and call for a general election and retire from political life. Nicholas Sarkozy should do the same.
*Yes! The founder of Doctors Without Borders
It has been an interesting educational experience.
I cannot help noting the many seers who immediately screamed: false flag the minute they heard of the attacks and then explained condescendingly how painfully obvious it was that the operation’s goal was to give a pretext to France and NATO a.k.a. the Anglo-zionist empire to topple al-Assad and attack Russia. In the world I inhabit, the result has been a thawing of relations between France and Russia, and increased military cooperation.
“It has been an interesting educational experience.
…………………………………..
In the world I inhabit, the result has been a thawing of relations between France and Russia, and increased military cooperation.”
Perhaps the interest and experience were not restricted to “thawing of relations” and “increased military co-operation”?
“It has been an interesting educational experience.”
Perhaps the following link may be of interest
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/322690-russia-savior-decadent-west/
whilst realising that high noise to signal ratios have their uses.
isis and company have there supporters on standby in several major capitals worldwide.they are well armed and prepared to fight to the end.make no mistake this is a war,phase 2.phase 1 was iraq,a conventional battle that predicably morphed into an insurgency
phase 2 is a worldwide insurgency increasing being fought on the enemies home ground,this means that isis will begin to disband in syria and iraq and regroup in europe and the western coalition.bombing isis and its supporters is the awaited knee jerk reaction
once isis have built up sufficient numbers that have been through live fire training in iraq and syria inside europe more serious attacks will get underway
the signal for that will come when attacks increase on western positions in the middle east.bases and ships attacked with missiles.especially the sinai and yemen areas.
Recent pontifications and schadenfreude of Mr. Starikov.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/hey-franceqatar-and-turkey-just-murdered-your-citizens-your-move/ri11324
France is not confessing that France and Anglo-America have murdered millions of Innocent People over the decades in the Middle East based entirely on Lies, and we know that France was an Axis Partner with Anglo-America in Libya that put Al Qaeda in Government in Libya, and they did this to create ISIS for regime change in Syria, and to destabilize Iraq.
There could be People who think that Britain and America and France had their ISIS partners do this in France so that France can ask the United Nations Security Council for a Resolution, which is designed for a regime change in Syria, that would place the ‘moderate’ ISIS in Government in Syria.
The World saw how France and Anglo-America could Not be trusted, because they did Not respect the United Nations Security Resolution on Libya.
There could be People who think that the French President paid ISIS to commit the Paris attacks, because he knows that his Rival for President is a woman, and he knows that to increase France’s Influence, then he knows that some Countries prefer to deal with Male Leaders, and these are the Male Leaders of Countries that support ISIS.
The People of Europe have had 2 World Wars because of German Aggression, and they know what it is like to be a Refugee in Desperate Need of some Understanding and Human Compassion in their time of Desperate Need, and we will see if the European Union will be Stingy and Selfish and Callous to the Plight of Fellow Human Beings, especially amongst the Richer European Countries and Germany, given the Historical Context and Moral Obligations of WW 2.
The Facts are that it is America’s Illegal and Immoral Wars in the Middle East, which have Created these Refugees in Europe.
Conspiracy? Deception? Anything for advantage?is fact now fiction and tv … Reality? Remember when a million dollars , seemed like a lot? Remember when you didn’t have to explain to your daughter why she should yell fire, instead of rape?remember Ike’s final warning about the military industrial complex? Remember wilson apologizing for the federal reserves birth? We the people can change things. We the people need to unite, vote, educate ourselves and our children about real issues and prepare for a long uphill struggle to fix… Our once great nation.our enemy once said” We will take over the world without firing a bullet.” The greatest weapon is no longer the atomic bomb, but the ability to sway public opinion, … Thru deception if advantageous, I fear.
“The greatest weapon is no longer the atomic bomb, but the ability to sway public opinion, … Thru deception if advantageous, I fear.”
Whilst a level of cognitive dissonance is sustainable outcomes suggests that experience of others renders “exceptionalism” and beneficence of the opponents a particularly “hard sell”.
Swaying infers a subject/object relationship which is often a multiplier in hindering/precluding “hard sells”.
The greatest weapon has never been the atomic bomb although it appears to be to some especially to those prone to technology fetishes and fixes.
This is getting old, and yet I wanted to share one final link about this.
I encountered this link about the much bandied “military preparedness emergency exercises”: http://www.challenges.fr/france/20151115.CHA1650/comment-le-samu-s-est-prepare-aux-attentats-simultanes-de-paris.html
“Nous nous sommes réunis dans la salle de coordination du Samu de la zone de défense Ile-de-France, ce matin-là, pour travailler sur l’hypothèse d’un groupe armé qui commettait des attentats à plusieurs endroits dans Paris. C’est ce que nous appelons un exercice sur table pour réfléchir à la coordination des moyens”
Some guys got together in a conference room to brainstorm around a table on the theme: “what if there were multiple attacks in Paris?” That is the extent of the exercises that gave the esteemed readership of the vineyard visions of mock terrorists and blood and special ops and total mayhem in the streets of the city prior to the attacks. I don’t blame those readers, that’s the result of relying on sites like globalresearch.ca for information: quotes doctored for maximum sensationalistic effect wildly distorting a mundane reality. I myself was taken in. Though if you read or speak French it was obvious that the article headline and quotes were lying about what the doctor said, I thought there had been at least a form of actual street exercice like paramedics periodically have in any large city. Wrong!
Facebook activates ‘Safety Check’ for users during Paris attack ?!?
Innocent people butchered for West’s greed for oil. All Paris Attackers Identified So Far Are European Nationals, Not Refugees.
The problem with the world today is not a monopolization of the truth by the mainstream media. All the information necessary to expose the ugly truths of those who secretly rule is out there. Rather, the problem is an inability or unwillingness on the part of the rest of society to suspect the depths of depravity some men are willing to resort to.
Excellent inference