By Allen Yu for the Saker Blog
I have picked on America for some time … and for good reasons … because American leaders and media on the world stage have been tragically hypocritical and arrogant for too long.
Just look at the recent murder of Iran’s top nuclear scientist – Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. Imagine if a top scientist in the U.S. (or U.K. or France or Germany for that matter) was murdered in a similar fashion: American leaders and media would all be all up in arms, calling out the despicable act for what it is, an affront against basic civility.
But because this happened to Iran, there is no moral indignity expressed in the U.S. media or its leaders. Trump seemingly smugly tweeted the news. Other leaders acknowledged nonchalantly almost as if it were news about bad weather. The killing is treated at worst as political intrigue by Israel – with certain approval by Trump – to prevent Biden from improving relations with Iran and perhaps rejoining the JCPOA.
It’s truly despicable … but expected. And now we see something just as disgusting in … Australia!
A few weeks ago, news came out that Australia troops have murdered at least 39 innocent civilians in Afghanistan in the course of the Afghan war. Over the weekend, an obscure artist in China made an art about the tragedy which was widely circulated in Chinese social media, and which Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Li JianZhao twitted.
The Australians are now all up in arms over the image! The angle Australian (and U.S.) media and leaders is taking is that this is all “fake news”! Australian Prime Minister Morrison pronounced it to be a “fake image”! In this Australian news video, one Australian politician pronounced that the image is “gratuitous, inflammatory, deeply offensive.” The reporters fumed that China was “childish” and a “bully” and that Australians must “stand up” to Chinese aggression. China is doing this – in their view – because it is mad at Australia for speaking up about Hong Kong, Xinjiang, and banning Huawei. Australian must not back down because who knows what else will China demand of Australians later, and what else evil China will demand of Australia’s children and grandchildren down the road!
I kid you not … that’s what they are saying in Australia!!!
So a few quick responses.
First, this is not “fake news.” It is real news. Watch “Killing Field: Explosive new allegations of Australian special forces war crimes | Four Corners.” It’s a documentary made by the Australian Public Broadcast Service and can be easily found on YouTube at https://youtu.be/-GPplTKCYpQ The issues are real. The events are real. The tragedy is real. The pain is real.
Second, this is not a “fake image.” It’s art – commonly understood to be an expression or application of creative skills to produce artifacts that evokes beauty and/or emotive power.
I remember a few years ago, many the West laughed at Muslims for getting for mad at “art” that satirized the Muslim prophet Muhammadin in what has been called the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. The Muslims accused the West of defaming their religion, but the West hollered “Freedom of speech”! But even in their fervor, never did Muslim supporters raise the issue about a “fake image”!
Third, talk about “gratuitous, inflammatory, deeply offensive”! It is the Australians who are “gratuitous, inflammatory, deeply offensive” for attacking Chinese who are creating and spreading art that expresses a shared human pain. The art evokes a primal, innate expression for basic human rights, especially taken in larger view of the West’s endless wars in the world – including the Middle East, Afghanistan, Africa, Latin America, among others. It is a basic human right to feel and communicate such emotions from human tragedies and offenses.
Fourth, about China being “childish” and a “bully,” please look in the mirror. Please look first into the mirror and reflect upon what you as a nation have done to others. You who say you are a gate keeper of peace have betrayed that trust and blindly killed some 39 – probably much more(!) – innocent men, women, and children. China is not “bullying” you by holding a mirror up and hoping that you can reflect upon the crimes you have conducted.
Fifth, stop crying about how you must stand up to China … Over the past two or so years, you have taken dramatic actions following U.S. lead in fighting a trade, technology, and ideology war against China the last few years. This is your choice, not China’s. You have spread lies about Huawei’s 5G insecurity, you have sided with and inflamed foreign-sponsored hooligans in Hong Kong, and you have created false, unsubstantiated reports about so-called Xinjiang “concentration camps.” Yes, you should stop. But not because of China per se, but because that’s the common, basic, decent, human thing to do.
Please understand that even after you do stop, you still have to face the music for the music your troops have conducted in Afghanistan.
China does not want to be your judge or savior, Australia. You have to face up to the court of history and humanity yourself. Please grow up, get some bones, stop being America’s bitch, and take some responsibility for yourself, Australia.
The bitch of the US wakes up in the morning and didn’t like what it sees in the mirror…
LOL
How’d you like them apples?
Je suis Chinois
I find the Australian reaction to the Chinese image most amusing, and more than a little bit hypocritical.
I have lost all my admiration for Australia.
It’s not China that has killed an unknown number of civilians in Afghanistan.
That would be Australia.
Yet the Australians are wingeing that the Chinese tweeted a picture?
What a bunch of hypocritical, self-pitying bludgers.
If Canberra really means it, why not boycott all Chinese goods – and stop all exports to China?
That would show them.
Haha actually that would be a great idea.
For a country to use the proceeds from its largest trading partner China then spends it on toy ships so it can conduct FONOP against the same. I’m sure it’s imperative for Australia to protect its vital shipping lanes from… Oh wait….
The whole concept is quite amusing.
China just leased for 99 years property on an Aussie island. No locals may trespass.
Kinda funny.
Aussie here: Yes to all the above. I’ll just add that whilst you don’t see it much in the controlled mainstream media, there are quite a few of us here working to get our country to, as Mr Yu aptly puts it, “grow up, get some bones, stop being America’s bitch, and take some responsibility for [ourselves]”. (And I’m not talking about the bogus “Australian Republican Movement”, which just want to retain the same entrenched power structures with a different figurehead at the top.) But it’s a long, slow grind, as you might well imagine given the entrenched cultural “littleness”, and racism, deliberately instilled here since day one by our British (and more recently Anglo-American) Imperial overlords. On the plus side, a few (sometimes a lot) more people wake up and smell the BS every time Morrison and his ilk makes asses of themselves like this.
Good luck, Aussies! I know that you have what it takes to get out from under.
As a boy my biggest heroes were Herb Elliott and then Ron Clarke. I’m sure today’s Aussies have the same grit.
I’m an Aussie too, I can can tell you the leadership in this country makes me puke. They are part of the global zionist mafia. While I always stand beside the (mostly) good people of Australia, I stand behind the governments of China, Iran , Venezuela, Russia before the filth of a government we have here. Many, many people have woken up to what is going on in the world.
well said Rob , time to lift the curtain of shame!
I took considerable pleasure in enlightening my employer of the historical context of HongKong this lunchtime. She had no knowledge of the opium wars, the East India Company, or the insults that CHina was forced to endure during that time. At the end of it she expressed the view that maybe the people of Hong Kong were getting off lightly.
The conversation was started by her parroting the mainstream media twoddle here in OZ about China’s ambitions to take us over. I pointed out that the USA had already done that and that she really needed to compare China’s record with that of the USA. One has been at war for all but two years of its relatively short existence. During the same periond of time China has started how many wars?
Our leadership is simply reflecting a national ignorance that gives us a fair clue about whose culture is going to dominate the next 200 or so years.
Thank you for this article, I’ve been watching the rise of anti china rhetoric in new Zealand as well, based on msm narrative dominance, and a complete lack of historical knowledge. The general understanding of the Hong Kong power play is pathetic, and one gets sick of the opinions of people who have supplanted the desire to find truth with 5 eyes verbal diarrhea. While I don’t give China a free pass I try to understand their moves without bias
It’s very simple.
Hong Kong and Taiwan are parts of Vhina. Get over it.
“Hong Kong and Taiwan are parts of China. Get over it.”
Hr Welsh.
HK and Formosa are parts of China…
I found that using the real island name annoys HK/taiwainese FUKUS puppets severly..
Childish perhaps, but in these days one need to get a laugh whenever possible.
The HK episode is just Operation Gladio redux. Fortunately China is also a student of history and the movement is failing with the perps jumping ship and skipping town.
No doubt they will continue to bad mouth China in the west a la Gordon Chang. Some will probably even score a plum post at some think tank or university, getting the odd soundbites on MSM when called on by their benefactors.
Full of sound and fury, they won’t even end up in the footnotes of history.
in geo-politics nothing is simple , all is complex
It’s going to be 5 Black eyes one of these days.
We’re supposed to recognize it as an artwork, rather than a faked documentary photograph, because it displays a big Australian flag. But who knows, maybe Australian special forces did lay out Australian flags upon which to slaughter Afghans.
Australians had no right to be in Afganistan, let alone to kill anyone.
“Insurgents”? I call them patriots.
The American rebels who shot British soldiers in the back from cover were mostly British citizens themselves. They had decided to rebel, and if they had been caught then (as Benjamin Franklin warned) they would have “hanged separately”.
The Afghans were fighting foreigners from the other side of the world, with a different language, a different religion, and different ideologies. Foreigners who had invaded their country for no good reason, and killed tens of thousands of them.
“Insurgents” indeed.
Afghanistan is called the Graveyard of Empires for a very good reason. It is and have proven that fact over and over again throughout history. It is just that some never learn (as per the current lump of numpties trying ..in vain.. )
To KimNam
Bravo!! I was wondering if anyone would know that – Afghanistan being called the graveyard of Empires, and for a very good reason – so, thank you!
Australia has placed itself on the wrong side of history and the outcome for that country will be painful.
Slavishly licking the Hegemon’s ar-e is never going to end well for the pathetic licker. This is what Australia, unfortunately, has become. As I have said before – tying your dinghy to a Titanic..
unverified ( a complaint ) that soldiers threatened two teenage boys with knives to their throats to elicit confessions of being fighters is where this image comes from. so no one in the squad ratted so its “fake news”?. (((murdoch))) press is hyper ventilating as per usual. it loved the dystopian lockdowns attacking any dissent…is there a western journalist that doesn’t love the “lockdowns”? now its back to the usual china china china. funny such hate from a Bolshevik tribesman. soldiers are somewhat god like status. portrayed as holding lambs like a baby jesus in a nativity scene. the pm used “repugnant”. most Australians thought him going on holidays to Hawaii while 2,500 homes burned last summer was that. or sending his church leader to washington for a WH dinner when the stench of child sexual abuse hung over him. but thats cronyism in the political elites. luckily the minister has secured the right for Australian troops stationed in japan to rape and murder with impunity like usa troops. well not face local death penalty laws like other mere mortals. a breakthrough in security negotiations the leader crowed.
The murderer playing the victim.
Sounds familiar.
China forgets very quickly which country….before the Americans offered the hand of friendship during the Whitlam government….Australia.
The writer of the above piece has also failed to talk about Chinas relentless….and baseless trade embargo on Australian goods that has been happening since Australia asked for an investigation into Wuhan virus origin.
Not to much to ask?
China thinks it can take Australia with carrot and stick method and with population flooding under the West’s sickness for multiculturalism.
To understand Chinas strategy you only have to understand the teaching of Sun Tzu.
Is this the China that is rising?
Relentless, baseless? Australia which wholly depends on China for its exports and tourism trying to leverage its role of a US/British colonial little bitch to lecture China on human rights? Laughable more like.
Fresh winds of freedom from the dead hand of the anglo imperialism in the East Asia which miraculously survived general Yamashita’s slam on the table in Singapore.
In case you go – oh, and what about the Uighurs???? I fully support China’s efforts to suppress Uighur islamist militancy funded from abroad. The whole “green belt” of islamist insurgency from Sinkiang to Bosnia needs to be eradicated in order for the new world to emerge and thrive.
So please explain how Australia’s previous support for ‘Freedom of Navigation’ operations in Chinese claimed waters, support for Hong Kong protests paid for US NGO’s, followed by attempts to claim COVID was a Chinese development were all simply the signs of a well meaning friend, and not some back-stabbing, duplicitous aersling?
Using common internet information and backed by experts in their fields I can demonstrate that the virus was; created in a Wuhan lab, was a natural inter-species leap, or was created at Fort Detrich and dumped in Wuhan by the USA. The Australian government chose one of those without a proper unbiased investigation. Unsurprisingly it was the US version.
The noise made about the ‘Wuhan virus’ is clearly intended to divert attention from Fort Detrick.
And the crown and USA had quickly put an end to Whitlam didn’t they? And as a result Australia had been the bitch of US and UK ever since with the exception of may be the Keating era.
If you’re going to cherry pick from history, at least do some homework.
For a country that yaps on and on about “fair go” it’s being a pretty sore loser now the shoe is on the other foot.
As one who lived in Australia for over 40 yrs and has been following this issue, I have differ with your statement that “China {has a} baseless trade embargo on Australian Goods since A.asked for an investigation into the Covid Virus.”
To start with, Australia did not “ask” which polite. Talking heads, TV pundits, Politicians demanded an international investigation, demanded that China answer to the Empire, by doing what you have just revealed – labelling this unknown entity the “Wuhan origin virus”.
In fact, there is not one scrap of evidence that this virus, which is in many – indeed, so very many – way, a highly contentious subject, originated in China. There is no basis or reason for Australian public talking heads to so label it.
But wait, as they say, there’s more.
There has been a bitter, growing, Sino-phobia across Australia for along time. Many years ago, when my daughter was still at school, she had a friend, clearly of Chinese genetic descent, adopted and brought up by an upper Middle Class family, who, while on bus in his Scotch College Uniform [since you are apparently Aus, you know what that means], endured more than once, being spat on and told to “go back where you came from”. When he politely replied that would be Sydney, where he was born, but his family lived in Adelaide, he got a torrent of abuse.
I have a friend who has a Thai partner. He’s now afraid for her to into crowded places without him, because of the growing nastiness against anyone with an Oriental appearance.
I have heard the “The Chinese want to take over the world; they are planning to take over Aus, they are buying all our Real Estate; they are cheats who lie etc etc ” over and over.
And now here you are, surprised that they finally said “enough”. Either you talk to us with respect, and honour our interests as we honour yours, or we are done”.
Aus relies on it’s trade with China – more than 1/3rd GDP comes from its trade with it. Yet it thinks it can bite the hand that feeds it, and get away with it?
As far as I’m concerned, if China told you all to get shrugged and stopped all trade, it’s no more than you would deserve.
And I say this as a person whose income to a large extent depends on China keeping some trade with you going.
It’s time that you all, as a nation, grew up. Start learning how to think, stop reacting with your chin and knees, and hatred and envy. Start to stand tall as decent adult human beings. Maybe then you’ll get some respect. Right respect for you world wide is right where it should be – in the gutter.
Pamela,
Thanks for your post. You don’t know how much your anecdote on racism in Australia resonated with me. Its all true. I was able to shrug it off in my youth by thinking it was just kids being kids. And to be honest over the years it has improved somewhat, but it was always there beneath the surface.
I’m saddened and in a way simply embarrassed that the government is willingly tossing all that progress into the bin.
I told many, many people Australia is one of the few gifted countries that could be totally self sufficient IF IT WANTED TO. Which also means it could afford to dance to its own tune.
It needs to grow a spine, stand tall and run its own foreign policy. It’ll be respected for it. Right now it’s not even worth talking to on world or even regional politics as it’ll just do whatever its masters asks. Why negotiate with the servant when you’re in negotiations with the boss?
It had a chance to be the big dog in the region during Whitlam and Keating years, to be the leader amongst the developing nations around it, shaping it for a better future.
Instead Australia is now little more than a supermarket. Make no mistake, China CAN go on without Australian exports.
You are very welcome A.L. And if you were on the receiving end of daily racism, I sympathise.
As an immigrant from Britain – although not English – I came in for a share as a so-called “Pommy bastard” – yes, they called us that even 50 yrs ago, women too. I got ostracised purely because of the way I speak, and the books I read, labelled with names I wont refer to here.
So I can imagine – it was nothing compared to what those of Oriental appearance must have suffered.
When I left UK, I had a close friend from my student days, a Jamaican girl who was part white American. She was my daughters’ God Mother.
When she and her English husband applied to emigrate to Aus she was refused under the
White Australia” policy. He was accepted. Sadly, it broke up their marriage.
When this news broke, I only wish I could say I was shocked, flabbergasted, refused to believe it.
But I Cant – while my heart bled for the innocent unarmed people cold bloodedly killed by an invader.
But that an Aussie soldier did it? No, not one bit. Shrugged with a “Yes. I guess”.
You are describing human nature, not Australian nature.
Every minority in every country tells the same story.
For those unaware, Australians are among the most likeable people on the planet.
It’s a very peaceful, easy going and supportive society.
Our media is controlled by the same interests as USA & UK.
They would like us to be more combative, more greedy, more in debt.
They are not representative of our culture in almost any respect. I have recently stopped watching/reading/listening entirely, it is so repulsive.
I’m sorry for your experience of racism. It is likely some time ago.
They seem to let everybody in these days and it works.
I, as an anglo, would be in a small minority now at the high school I attended 40+ years ago.
We have a fast growing asian population who enrich the culture not to mention the mean IQ of the country.
We are still, for the moment, the lucky country.
But, if we do not openly and forcebly reject the crap that Morrison and his ilk are pedalling we won’t be for very much longer.
Don’t think that Labor will fix the problem, Whitlam was made an example of and for all Rudd’s recent bluster he still went to New York and tugged the forelock to Rupert.
Vote accordingly
Pamela, you do not appear to be a happy camper living here in Australia, I agree that the Morrison government’s policies are reckless in these matters, however when you talk about our international respect being so called ‘in the gutter’ then you are tarring a whole nation & it’s peoples with a very nasty brush, your wish for all trade to stop you know could well happen & you also know would be calamitous for all & every Australian,
Further, both myself & my husband were young adults in Australia 50 years ago & mixed both separately with many immigrants from Great Britain & it is inconceivable to us that anyone would use the term ‘pommy bastard’, that is something that flew out the window 20 years before,
your friends story is very sad but it should be noted that the White Australia Policy ended in 1973 under the Whitlam government,
It is a common attitude among English migrants to be very dissatisfied with all & everything Australian but on the other hand they don’t wish to return to the UK, it is perhaps in this light that Pamela has made her comment that she was not surprised that Australian soldiers committed these abominable crimes, we Australians however were shocked, I pray that reforms can be made to ensure that they are never repeated & that full criminal charges are carried through as has been mooted
US has 800 bases in 70 countries. It believes itself an empire (although historically nascent). How did it all begin? See below. Since 2007 China has been Australia’s largest trading partner, replacing Japan, with trade valued at US$235 billion in 2019, or 32.6% of its exports.
American power views all rivals as unacceptable. Other nations are either footstools for U.S. power, in which case they are euphemistically called “allies” or “partners”. Or else if they are labelled “enemies” when they don’t allow themselves to be subjugated to Washington’s writ.
Who will be the clown? US maintains Australia’s economic security is a factor of US military defense of Australia, Donald Duck likes golf and Nancy Pelosi likes ice-cream. When the ship USS Empire is sinking try to find a lifeboat.
https://youtu.be/p6xLchIIJWo or http://www.cowdisley.com/videos/australia.mp4
consent for war must be manufactured . a mein kampf 101. ask yourself did Australia’s media suddenly 6 months ago start running multiple daily negative articles? usa ambassador to Australia didnt even get off the planes red carpet when he arrived before giving a “china containment” speech. its fairly obvious with sock puppets where the hand is
Bullseye! We have a winner!
@Cookie Bot
You think you’re a patriot by talking shite ? The Australian politial leaders were bad mouthing China from over 2 years ago – acting like & being America’s boot lickers. That was well before any viurus & anyway who said it started in China? There were military games in Wahun in Oct 2019 & over 200 US Special Services were in attendence. America has scores of Military labs & that’s where the so called Spanish Flu of 1918 came from. A military base in Kansas. Google it!
@Cookie Bot
Maybe China did the Wuhan virus thing, maybe not. But why shouldnt they??
After a long row of assassinations of the Chinese Ambassador to Israel, assassinations of Chinese businessmen in ME, the long term jailing of Huawei CFO on unsubstantiated charges. Obstruction of Chinese competition on the free market, US containment from Formosa, Japan and S.Korea, Western ISIS infiltration of the Uighurs, m.m.
So the lapdog Australia is right to mess into a case which is not theirs??
More examples of Australia spreading “Freedom and Democracy” around the world.
Photo shows Australian trooper drinking out of dead militant’s prosthetic leg
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/12/01/639793/Photo-shows-Australian-trooper-drinking-out-of-dead-militant%E2%80%99s-prosthetic-leg
Probably a limited hangout exercise for damage control. Anything to get the real story off the front pages.
This was yesterday’s Global Times editorial:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208561.shtml
The tone of this editorial is uninhibited. Aussies are called out for their hypocrisy, arrogance, and stupidity. Just as Allen Yu has done so here at Saker’s :)))). It is rare that China do something in such blunt manner.
I believe the relationship between Australia and China will stay in the freezer for a long, long time. For that matter, the same would probably apply to the rest of the 5-eyes. The so-called dual circulation economic strategy called for in the 14th 5-year plan is another way of saying ‘decouple’. A new page has turned.
Another Aussie here. When the author refers to “Australia” he should really refer to the “Australian Government” – because they are not policies most people want (at least those I speak to). And the MSM is just Govt propaganda. I think all Aussies are still in shock at what happened in Afghanistan, and that was probably just the tip of the iceberg. (And before anyone replies that we voted in this Govt, well none of these policies were mentioned at the last election; and, we all know about so-called “democracy”).
@cdvision,
“…well none of these policies were mentioned at the last election; and, we all know about so-called “democracy”).”
Fully agreed, in general our ‘Democratic’ rulers have long since forgotten that they are elected to SERVE the people and not rule them.
That said, we have become (as have many other western nations) pressers of buttons given a binary choice of a person to vote for. Not Policy, Not Direction, Not Vision to take the country forward in a positive way. Just a binary choice, in Aust case Shorten (who did have a raft of policies, (probably to many in hindsight) or SocMo our magical marketing manager.
The UK similar Corbyn, with a raft of policies, or BOJO “get brexit done”. The USA has been a binary choice for many years now.
Democracy:
A bunch of services and infrastructure built by Government to benefit all the people, which in turn become a kleptocracy that a few steal the wealth from the many. The closer to collapse the system becomes the more “”Democracy”” is promoted as the panacea to fix all the problems that are manifested by the theft of the wealth, leading to enforced hopelessness that Steals the Hopes and Dreams from the people leading to it’s own form of genocide as the poeple turn to alcohol and drugs to numb the hopelessness.
This is capitalism in it’s final death throws.
There has to be a better way.
There is a better way. It is called “Divida and Conquer”. We, the People can do it to the powers that rule over us by refusing to play along with their democratic puppet game by electing independent representatives and dismissing all those who even twitch in direction of proming parties.
It is the party dynamic that allows the corruption to get a grip, and any semblence of representative government must avoid it if it is to deliver on its promise.
Vote accordingly
i hope the author also sent this to several aussie newspapers and websites.
i do agree with him, i laughed out loud when i heard the whiny aussie complain about this meme.
Here is another editorial on Australia on GT. This one dated Dec. 2, 2020:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208673.shtml
The bashing of Aussie political elites is harsh. It specifically stated that ‘ Chinese society strongly advocates resolute and lasting punishments against Australia …..’ Resolute and lasting! Wow. But the article does take care to state that China doesn’t want to insult Australia and its people, just wants to express despisal against extremist politicians such as Hanson.
”A few weeks ago, news came out that Australian troops have murdered at least 39 innocent civilians in Afghanistan in the course of the Afghan war.”
That’s how Anglo-Saxons generally behave — at least as soldiers: brute force, bad faith, racism, and self-worship/self-pity. The US, the UK, Australia — same deep Anglo yearning for cruelty, chauvinism, and oppression. I feel disposed to believe that the Chinese artist was inspired by, most notably, British 19th century photo-ops featuring brave Tommys with beheaded Chinese as their trophies.
I suggest part of the problem (and NB I am not deflecting any blame) is that the Australian SAS were put under US Command. The officer class and top brass MUST be held accountable for this. We should never even have had troops there. Afghanistan is no threat to Australia; if fact, Afghans have a long friendly association with Australia, back to the camel routes across Australia in the early days (we have more camels than Saudi Arabia) and one of our main train routes overland is named after them (The Gahn).
Worse still, this isn’t done by some bored twenty something who enlisted to get college tuition that happened to get deployed like in abu ghraib….
These are the SAS, highly trained professional soldiers who we’re supposed to look up to as protectors of civilization. The tip of the spear, the elite of the elite.
Turned out they’re no more than a bunch of deluded alpha jocks with way too much self-import who also happens to be highly trained killers.
Yes i am generalizing but this is the real revelation.
AL
I met a former SAS soldier in the eighties. He told me that to qualify to be in SAS you had to have psychopathic tendencies and enjoy hurting people. He was not an embittered ex army, he was matter of fact about it and said it was part of the recruitment and selection criteria. I don’t know if that’s actually true though.
Given how dangerous their operations are, only crazies could do their job successfully. They are going into very hostile environments in which they could die at any moment, where their life is on the line at all times, and their job presumably is reconnaissance or capture or kill people.
Who in their right mind could do that job? You, me, we would have a nervous/mental breakdown on the first day. I’m not disrespecting them, I’m just saying. So excesses/barbarity will happen, awful as it is.
Balzacs friend,
I can’t speak for forty or more years ago though I find the advice you are in receipt of re: mr “…former SAS…” questionable. To be eligible for SAS entry in Australia, applicants already need to be part of the defence force.
Psychological and personality screening is quite selective given the large number of job applicants versus available jobs. A history of mental health problems, violence, indifferent attitude to animal welfare, drug abuse or criminality other than misdemeanour preclude entry into the ADF.
Literal psychopaths aren’t much good as soldiers. Not following orders, interpersonal difficulties working within a team and acting independently for personal gratification with no regard for the welfare of others are perhaps the least useful traits to any branch of anybody’s military.
HD
Point taken. Thanks for responding.
SAS role is specifically sabotage behind enemy line, assassinations, terrorism. The ‘warrior culture’ is the make-up for thug culture.
Every conquering army does this regardless of colour.
I find the constant whining about Anglo-saxons extremely racist. You know what the Blacks did to the Bushman? Or the Japanese invaders to the Anu?
The only thing that makes this issue unique is that the western news holds up western culture as the epitome of righteousness, otherwise keep skin colour out of it.
What came out ‘a few weeks ago’ is an investigation by the ICC which is ongoing for few years. The rash to condemn the soldiers was to prevent the case coming to the International Court. Damage control. We are still occupying the high moral ground.
So true!
Nin hao Allen. Millions of Australians are forced to drink fluoridated water with toxic waste fluoride sold by China. China stopped fluoridating its water supplies years ago after proving fluoride is a neurotoxin causing a ten point drop of intelligence. There is always sweet and sour combination in this world. Here is some sweet for you, which will be embarrassing many …
China’s Chang’e-5 lands on moon …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsDX5eZcmks
Large public protests have been unable to prevent involvement in wars and fluoridation is mandated at federal government level. Your “Australians” is generally speaking nonsense and generally speaking nonsense should be avoided. Get a backbone Allen and be specific.
Who Forced “Millions of Australians are forced to drink fluoridated water with toxic waste fluoride sold by China”? China? or Australian government? What are you trying to say here? Australian has lower intelligence because Chinese force Australians drink fluoridated water with toxic waste fluoride?
Nobody is forcing anybody to anything.
Its raining down in your heads, you can take out drinking water from the sea with two bottles and fire woods, there is always a lake or a river nearby and charcoal everywhere.
Finally you can put up a 20′ container with a water plant which can take out fresh water from the air enough for 7 families. Even your public water can easily be cleaned with free natural sources.
A bunch of victimised crybabies blaming politicians or China for their own stupidity.
http://laksamanabukitbintang.blogspot.com/2010/09/massacre-in-malaya.html?m=1
I am pretty sure during the Malaya emergency they had a headhunting campaign. This was not practical so they eventually ended up paying out for ears of ‘insurgents’. The British and their subjects have a a long history of civilian killing throughout their empire.
We like to think of the barbarity of My Lai being uniquely American but this behaviour is part of Anglo Zionist culture and history.
As long as they walk this earth our children will never be safe.
39 Afghans seems such a small number – the real tally must be of a magnitude higher – but I suppose that this is simply those cases of gratuitous killings that can be confirmed.
At least they are acknowledging it to the point that the unit under the scope will be disbanded, and not just sweeping it all under the rug like “Collateral Murder”.
The onus only goes as far as the enlisted men involved though, and it remains to be seen (in terms of sentencing etc) whether an Afghan life is worth more or less the same as a Palestinian’s.
This is only the tip of the shitberg.
Australia’s elite forces have been involved in other atrocities:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-11/afghan-files-shed-light-on-notorious-severed-hands-case/8496654?nw=0&pfmredir=sm
The irony here being that the tools of the US Empire now include Aussie handchoppers to complement their ISIS headchoppers.
Of course the Yanks are not averse to the practice either
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-kill-team-how-u-s-soldiers-in-afghanistan-murdered-innocent-civilians-169793/
also (NSFW – Not for the Squeamish!)
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-lists/the-kill-team-photos-10864/no-title-775-64825/
I agree, 39 murders seems like only the number with categorical proof – the real number may be much higher.
It is established law that the officers and top brass, even if they didn’t directly command or know of the incidents, are legally liable. There is an effort to scapegoat the squaddies, although they are hardly innocent. This needs to be investigated by the ICC by an independent panel of investigators. Endless time consuming inquiries by Australia are intended to obfuscate. The US commanded the Australian SAS in Afghanistan; under law they are culpable also.
They are only acknowledging it now, after a 4 year inquiry FFS, because it was out in the open, and there were whistleblowers and confessions. And now they propose a further inquiry.
As an Australian I feel compelled to comment here. Firstly, other Australian commenters here appear to want to play the “not in my name” card. This is not good enough. Rumours of the atrocities committed by Australian special forces in Afghanistan have been circulating for about a decade. Did any of those commenters voice concerns about that to their political representatives and demand a swift and full investigation? I doubt it.
Secondly, we have been here before so it should come as a surprise to no one. During the Vietnam War, Australian special forces and counter intelligence were up to their necks in the Phoenix Program. Douglas Valentine touches on this in his book on the program. A simple gateway into this atrocious episode in Australian military history is to google the name Ted Serong, an Australian counter intelligence expert during that war. (If, by any chance, Ken Leslie is reading these words, he may be interested to know that Ted Serong was a devout Roman Catholic). So no, the actions of Australian special forces in Afghanistan are not an isolated and uncharacteristic example of a few ‘bad apples’. But that is how the mainstream media in Australia is attempting to spin it.
Lastly, and most importantly, I want to acknowledge the two most cogent sentences in Allen Yu’s piece: “You have to face up to the court of history and humanity yourself. Please grow up, get some bones, stop being America’s bitch, and take some responsibility for yourself, Australia.” Sadly, this is unlikely to happen. Australia is a white settler society. Which means that it was founded as a nation on the genocide of its indigenous peoples – Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders. Although an Australian prime minister did stand up in parliament over a decade ago and apologise on behalf of all Australians for the subsequent genocide of the Stolen Generations (a decades long deliberate government policy during the 19th and 20th Centuries of removing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families), no Australian leader has ever confronted the original sin of the nation’s founding, with the possible exception of Gough Whitlam with his goverment’s land rights legislation in the 1970s. In 2017, Australia’s Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples invited all Australians to face up to the court of history and grow up (as Allen Yu now recommends) when they delivered to the Australian people their Uluru Statement from the Heart (a proposal for a first nations voice to parliament). This invitation was immediately and shamefully dismissed with contempt by the then prime minister.
All white settler societies, because of their founding ‘original sin’, are profoundly anxious about the legitimacy of their place in the world. Their instinctive response to this insecurity usually takes the form of a national denial of any guilt (and they usually seek protection from their deep fears about their existential legitimacy from a powerful big brother – in Australia’s case this was, initially, the United Kingdom and then, from the end of the Second World War, the USA). So, it is very easy for Australians to respond hysterically and defensively to a work of art created by a Chinese artist seeking to express a truth about Australian military atrocities in Afghanistan. After all, the child depicted by the artist might just as well have been represented as an Australian Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander child.
btw my ancestry is mostly German, Irish and English. But there is a Chinese great, great grandfather. He arrived in Australia in the 19th Century from Guangzhou (Canton as it was then known by the British colonialists). He met a local butcher’s daughter and the rest, as they say, was history. It’s a small world – always has been.
Thank you for the article Allen Yu.
Dear Simon,
Ken has his eyes open, especially when his articles on Phoenix (and the Aussie part in them) are followed by some modern ear hunting. Thank you!
Footnote from Part II:
According to some sources, Serong was a member of the CIA and a keen promoter of his fellow RC criminal Colby’s assassination programme. From https://newmatilda.com/2009/05/12/australias-vietnam-style-killing-program/: “”Yes,” he said, “we did kill teachers and postmen. But it was the way to conduct the war. They were part of the Viet Cong Infrastructure. I wanted to make sure we won the battle.” Another Australian Catholic officer David Kilcullen argued as late as 2004 that Phoenix had been “unfairly maligned”. ↑
1. The Western hypocrisy continues, from the country that thinks they have the “freedom” to have cartoon to insult Muslim, but somehow it is “insulting” for China to depict even a true event:
“France calls China’s tweet depicting Australian soldier ‘insulting’ ”
“We have taken note of the tweet you are describing. We believe that the tweet concerned is not worthy of the methods to be expected of the foreign ministry of a country like China. The image published is especially shocking and the comments are biased and insulting for all countries whose armed forces are currently engaged in Afghanistan or have been engaged there in the past almost-20 years.”
https://uk.ambafrance.org/France-calls-China-s-tweet-depicting-Australian-soldier-insulting
2. Guardian reports:
“Senior Australian special forces soldiers drank beer out of the prosthetic leg of a dead Taliban soldier at an unauthorised bar in Afghanistan… Another appears to show two soldiers performing a dance with the leg.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/dec/01/photo-reveals-australian-soldier-drinking-dead-taliban-prosthetic-leg?amp;amp
3. Meanwhile, some Australia soldiers took their own lives, or were their lives taken away, for some coverup?
“NINE Australian troops – including one female soldier – take their own lives in just three weeks amid fallout from bombshell report exposing ‘war crimes’ in Afghanistan”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8975791/Nine-soldiers-lives-amid-report-exposing-war-crimes-Afghanistan.html
Funny video from an Australia TV Series, “Australia’s Defence Policy Explained”. Why does Australia spend 30 billions on defense?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTCqXlDjx18
Haha. It seems I’ve missed out on another good series. I’ll have to give it a viewing.
Dear Allen Yu
This is reminiscence of My Lie with Lt William Calley. Of course what has been forgotten it that these incidents have always occurred going back to the Massacre of Glenfruin in 1603, (in my family’s history) and for Australians in the Boer War there was the incident with the ‘Breaker’ (Morant) and in 1917, the massacre of a village in Cairo by New Zealanders, Highlanders and Australians after a Kiwi had his throat slashed by a village thief. Of course General Allenby called them all cowards and murderers (Banjo Patterson) but nothing more seems to have been done about it.
And it seems somewhat irrelevant that the OC of the Australian troops in Afghanistan at the time was a part-time Army General Catherine Campbell, a Canberra bureaucrat and an associate of another Canberra bureaucrat, Sarah Jane Halton, who was in attendance at the WHO ‘Event 201’. Mind you Campbell had just stuffed up in her role as head of Centrelink with the ‘Robo debt affair’ so it is not surprising that there were more stuff-ups to follow her.
And then there is the SASR; that Australian regiment, frequently used by the politicians of the day to manage their dirty work, or set up as in the last IRA murders in Roemond the Netherlands back in 1990 (Nick Spanos and Stephen Melrose ). The SASR were very well trained until unfortunately their training changed to that of the US military forces, something as depicted in the anti-Vietnam film, ‘Full Metal Jacket’, and we Australians have been bashed around both eyes and ears with that bullsh*t recently by our MSM, and suddenly that doesn’t seem to be coincidental. There is one other aspect of our SASR, that is that they are very well trained to kill and to assassinate, but they are not so well equipped with intelligence and foresight.
On the Chinese side though, I feel as though they have erred. As you have written; ” Over the weekend, an obscure artist in China made an art about the tragedy which was widely circulated in Chinese social media, and which Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Li Jian Zhao twitted.”
It is irrelevant that the work was by an obscure artist; what is relevant is that Li Jian Zhao tweeted it to embarrass the Australian government. You then procrastinate in regard to ‘artistic’ drivel in regards to Mohammad, but you seem to have ignored similar works against Christianity such as the urination of Christ by some obscure Jewish artist in New York,.and similar offensive works, called art.
And wasn’t Li Jian Zhao mentioned previously on this site back in about March/April in regard to his outburst on the Corona Virus, which reminds me now of that old quote from Julius Caesar; “Yond Cassius, I fear he doth protest too much.
Of course there are in Australia many supporters of the Chinese government and they have been well paid for their services, such as Andrew Robb, and other politicians such as Sam Dastyari and Shaoquett Moselmane who have been forced to resign from their political positions, but never forget the former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd nor the present Premier of Victoria, Daniel Andrews who has counted on the BRI to repair the damage he has done to Victoria.
But all this does is demonstrate that the Chinese government is as bad as the American Democratic Party, (think of the pot calling the kettle black) as well as the Republicans especially in the use of bribery and corruption.
There is far more to the recent events occurring throughout the Western world at present, and China is up to its nostrils in this quagmire of international intrigue, and I hope, though I won’t hold my breath, that once this latest gambit is over that Australian politicians will have learnt to stand on their own two feet and not cling to the petticoats or coattails of those who have abused us for the past century.
Australian Hired Killer kills an Afghan civilian and call him a “count”in the process.
Coward enough to send the dog first and shoot the person when he was absolutely sure that there is no threat to himself.
Notice how he was disciplining the dog after mercilessly killing the person. Westerners have downgraded themselves to a lower state than animals.
So much for demonizing Russia and China with your fake news. Your living in total defiance to God is coming to an end soon…
https://twitter.com/evazhengll/status/1333426352582774785
The current Australian PM (Scott Morrison) is a Pentecostal. His background is marketing. He presents himself as an Aussie ‘mate’ called “Scomo”. So, like Tony Blair, GW (Boy) Bush and then Australian PM little Johnny Howard, the aggressive invasion of Iraq must have had that ‘approval’ from Above (in their minds at least). Australian military forces were known to be in Iraq ahead of the game. It is somewhat complex to unpack the current situation in Oz.
25-million, the size of one Chinese city (or Sri Lanka), huddled in 5-6 major urban coastal cities living a ‘rugged’ settler myth with the British flag still in the national flag corner and the British Monarchy running the place at arms-length through ‘governor generals’. Much of the Chinese coal burning CO2 comes from Australian coal (Queensland) and the Western Australian economy is basically an iron ore mine with a bit of agriculture in the southern corner. Anecdotally, around 70% of the value of this mining game flows overseas in one way or another with some paltry state royalties (in usd$) funding the good life for the locals. There is also a dubious character called Joseph Isaac “Diamond Joe” Gutnick out of Victoria who funded a lot in apartheid Israel. There is indeed an ugly side to the national character and here the Chinese psyops has pinned it well.
The hypocrisy is profound. Like the USA, there is very little deep culture and the military carries a heavy portion of the national psych. The offensive art images are presented here with the child blurred out. One has to go to Yandex searches to find the uncensored art. With deep references to the twisted Hebrew Abrahamic human sacrifice myth (the one where the lamb gets the knife) the 5,000-y.o. Chinese cultural civilization has done a master piece and hit a core nerve. With Trump (it seems) fading into history and Joe Biden’s gang of ‘China friendly’ thieves about to assume power in Washington DC, the Australian colonial administration in Canberra (not necessarily the people) is about apoplectic hysterical with the double-bind they have walked into under Trump’s war on China. The ‘deals’ for increased Chinese purchases of US agricultural products were simply deducted from the Australian export quotas. And the Americans know this and do not care one iota.
Australia continues the kingly tradition of being the lowly ‘whipping boy’ in the USA-China geopolitical-trade tango. Ultimately of little consequence. The Western Australian state/provincial government (getting the iron ore royalties) has just signalled that the scrap should stop before it impacts iron ore exports – the big cash cow. So, little will change until a handful of hyper wealthy Australian ‘billionaires’ begin to hurt in their respective pockets. Only big money talks here. The plebs are fed on PR marketing mush of Mr ‘Scomo’ pulling angry faces and the ‘world’ saying they are going to buy all the wine/booze/whatever that China now rejects. Ha, ha, … What desperation is showing through the masks. If there was a crime called “economic treason” then there should be a clutch of policy wonks in Australian government hanging from the gallows.
As southeast Asia takes off in the 21st century, led by the traditional cultural empire, the rump of ‘white’ European colonial isolationism looms. It is not Australia’s embargo of China that matters – rather the opposite. The universities are empty of foreign fee-paying students and failing. The shelves in stores are rather thinly stocked pending shipments from … you got it; China. The Australian dollar is not healthy and it will not be long, Covid-19 aside, before the thongs (flip-flop footwear) and singlet ‘working class’ won’t be able to live their escapist dreams lording it on holiday in Bali/Thailand/Vietnam etc.
This is not the first real ‘own goal’ kicked by the Australian idiots in power, but it is the most potentially transformational. The combined economic-cultural effects of China/Asia rising; USA falling; little Britain out of the EU; and a wave of disorientating postmodernism-orientated political-cultural malaise is potent for change down under. As they say, all bark and no bite and the resurgent Chinese civilization has obliged with a well timed and focused punch to the midsection. European Australia is about to discover the ancient Asian art of ‘losing face’. And that false facade of civilized ‘dignity’ in the (British Queen’s) armed forces just got flushed down the toilet – and worst still in a very public manner and with little room for retreat.
The real question being raised is (and rightly): WTF is Australian military doing invading foreign countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place? Those who live in glass houses should perhaps refrain from throwing stones. Let’s see how Biden buccaneers pan out on the China front and how their little Australian poodle barks its way back into the dog kennel. Popcorn potential, imo.
Why is the Australian military in Afghanistan? As a contribution to security for the opium poppy fields. These supply the global heroin trade which supplies the funds that the CIA needs to maintain its covert operations around the world.
Now, here is a politician who knows which side his bread is buttered on… iron ore royalties (and big end of town digging ‘dirt’ business patrons) matter! A bit late, imo.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-will-do-everything-it-can-to-preserve-trading-relationship-with-china-mcgowan-20201202-p56jzm.html
Here’s yet another comment from an Australian.
Kudos to the author! He’s pretty much nailed the situation as it stands.
In a nutshell, Australia (and by that, I mean the idiot f*cking politicians) are solely and entirely responsible for the progressive destruction of what used to be a growing friendly partnership with China.
One could parody the circumstance as a diminutive chihuahua being adopted and fed by a big friendly gorilla, until the chuhuahua inexplicably began snarling and attacking the gorilla for no logical reason. Of course, when the gorilla finally becomes annoyed and swats the chihuahua away, the dog squeals and whines and yelps in the most pitiable manner! Poor little chihuahua! Big nasty gorilla!
Fact – Australia is an American colony. Politicians don’t get to be politicians unless the kiss Uncle Sam’s ass on a daily basis. Australian military men don’t get promoted if they don’t deify their American masters.
Gough Whitlam was the last Australian Prime Minister with balls and an independent vision for Australia’s place in the world. Whitlam’s government got shafted and replaced with an Empire-friendly sock-puppet.
Just a few years back, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was determined to strengthen Australia’s engagement with China on every level, but (of course) they knifed him in the back and replaced him with Julia Gillard, another sock-puppet for the Empire.
China didn’t start any of the current fracas – Australia did. And every time the stakes escalate, true to form, Australia just doubles down. Our pollies have learnt well from their American masters.
Australia banned China’s tech companies from involvement in its comms networks, claiming they threatened “national security”. Come on, really? We all know the truth – Chinese components in Australia’s communications networks would be way cheaper and way more advanced than anything our American partners have to offer, but they’d eliminate all the “back doors” and security holes that the Americans build into all their network gear. That’s the real reason for blocking Chinese network products, and anyone worth their salt in the comms industry damn well knows it.
And Australia now has the audacity to whinge and complain when China arbitrarily blocks Australian shit from their economy. Here’s a reality check – it’s a free world, China doesn’t have to buy Australia’s shit if it doesn’t want to, just like Australia (very foolishly) proved that it doesn’t have to buy Chinese shit if it doesn’t want to.
As for Corona Chan, I believe we can all agree that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. How thoroughly plebeian can the Australian government possibly be in their slavish obedience to the Empire? Certainly obedient beyond any regard for Australia’s national interests, let alone for truth or integrity or what’s just the right thing to do.
The totality of evidence, for anyone with an actual interest in digging through the details to discern the truth, points not at China but at the USA as the original source of the Corona Chan bug. Yet right on cue, the butch female Australian foreign minister asserted as a fait accompli that Corona Chan came from China and demanded an “independent” international investigation of China’s role & responsibility for the global Corona Chan “pandemic”. Followed shortly by amplified echoes from the Australian Prime Minister and the entire Australian media. Hey, as far as our American masters are concerned, what’s not to like?
Chinese diplomats warned their Australian counterparts that China felt betrayed by all of this, and China was not happy. So how did the idiot Australian government respond to China’s concerns? Of course, it doubled down and denied any wrongdoing! Kick China in the nuts, knife them in the back, and then tell them to stop complaining!!!
All the pain that Australia is currently enjoying is a gift from the Australian government’s loyal fidelity to our American masters, sucking up to our Imperial masters and alienating our natural friends for the glory of Empire. Bend over and say “Thank you Sir, may I have another?”.
Which brings us to the current subject of Australian military psycopaths on the loose in Afghanistan. Never mind the glaring question of why Australian military are rampaging around someone else’s country in the first place (of course, we have the Imperial mandate, isn’t it obvious?). The only reason that any action is being taken by Australian authorities to “clean up” the crime scene of gratuitous murders of Afghani citizens in Afghanistan by Australian soldiers – is that they were exposed. Otherwise you would be hearing crickets right now. All the crocodile tears and virtue signaling by the Australian legal, political and military stooges is an obligatory response to the fact that they tried to squash it all and sweep it under the carpet, but failed.
We know with certainty that all the official horror and contrition expressed by the Australian authorities over the military atrocities in Afghanistan are nothing more than a grand exercise in damage control, simply by observing what went before – the concerted campaign by the Australian Federal Police to raid the Australian Broadcasting Commission and block publication of the truth, the incarceration and prosecution of the journalists involved, and the ongoing criminal prosecution of the army whistleblower who had tried in vain to get his chain of command to stop the war crimes before finally taking it to the media.
If the Australian authorities are really sincere in their contrition for the Australian military war crimes, let’s see them submit the case to the ICC for prosecution. Of course, pigs will fly before that ever happens. As usual, in the Imperial “rules based international order”, the offender investigates itself. Hubris indeed.
So what’s all the fuss about a piece of artwork depicting the truth? So much for all the official Australian crocodile tears over the Australian military’s Afghanistan war crimes. Sure, our government and military officials wail and flagellate themselves for these terrible atrocities besmirching our good name and reputation, but only they and they alone have the moral authority to engage in such revelations. Woe to any foreign party who dares to echo such truthful revelations back to Australia, high and mighty as Australia knows itself to be. All the tears and penance are just optics for internal consumption, nothing more than a big fat exercise in damage control as the Australian government and media strive to maintain the illusion of ethical infallibility to the gullible Australian population.
The official Australian reaction and accompanying media furore over the Chinese diplomatic tweets demonstrates most emphatically that any Australian government and military remorse for its war crimes is an insincere facade. They don’t actually accept any accountability beyond the limits of domestic public relations and damage control. Their only real regret is that they were caught out and the war crimes were exposed.
IMO all the homicidal misfits involved in the murder of Afghani “non-combatants” should be taken out and summarily executed. As for the reports of soldiers commiting suicide after the official report on the war crimes came out – I say, good riddance. But that’s just me.
China has done nothing wrong. Australia has done everything wrong.
China has the high ground on this – on all of it.
Australia needs a change of government – real bad.
Well said. Totally agree on need for change at the top. Unfortunately reading various Aust mass media comment sections one can only assume that either they are flooded with text from the usual suspects, or (more likely) the racist cancer runs deep into the core culture. Apparently we can ban China (and regional development) and enter another 50,000 years of southern solitude chasing reptiles and marsupials for food. Yes, Gough Whitlam was a heroic effort, but at least he didn’t get shot like Chile’s Allende as the British Queen’s alcoholic governor-general dismissed him. Keating wasn’t too bad. Rudd tried. The problem with Australian (east coast orientated) foreign policy is they think they are top-bananas dealing with Fiji or Vanuatu, of NZ or New Guinea. No idea of scale and relative (un)importance. It’s a little different in the west coast where India and China and Indonesia are just a few hours flight north.
Spot on Ultrafart, I couldn’t agree more.
My only reservation being if both the Chinese and Australian governments are teammates and we the (relatively) free people of the world are the opposition.
The whole episode feels manufactured to me.
Then again world affairs in general feels awfully manufactured to me.
PS You didn’t mention that we also have a Jewish treasurer who was protected in the recent purge of politicians not qualified to sit in parliament due to potentially divided loyalties.
Hah!
I’d also like to add that we have actual concentration camps here in Australia. In the Northern Territory we imprison indigenous children and abuse them. We also have concentration camps on the small islands off the mainland where we imprison families who were unable to afford a plane ticket before seeking asylum from the wars our government enthusiastically supports. Feels good being an Australian.
I wish Australians would look in the mirror.
Thank you Mr Allen Yu. We need to propose to China that they must protect freedom of speech. All Chinese school children need to see this picture when they are learning about Western war crimes. And please do not give in to the war criminals’ blackmail and threats of violence.
First, I dispute NOTHING the author had to say in this article…but, the wrong people are being victimized here. China didn’t create this scandal in Australia, the media did. We are talking about “atrocities” committed in the context of war by the Australian SAS.
I won’t get into the morality of targeting civilians, but the people paying the price here, the men of the SAS, were doing their duty as it had been taught to them. Several suicides have already been brought on by this media scandal…a scandal that scapegoats the SAS troopers, while giving their superiors a pass! These are honorable men. Perhaps their are a few exceptions, there always are, but these are honorable men and they do not deserve this treatment.
Terrorism is an integral part of all special operations forces… I’m not aware of any special operations force anywhere whose primary objective is not to strike fear and terror into the hearts of their enemies. People talk about the laws of war, but those exist only for those in positions to make decisions…to the man in the bush with a rifle in his hand, almost always with only a few mates and in the midst of the enemy where death is the penalty for a mistake, there is an entirely different law of war…
Once you begin targeting civilians (and yes, counter-insurgency warfare is all about targeting civilian leaders) what is the moral difference between murdering a district chief and his entire family in a drone strike vs an SAS commando slitting their throats in the middle of the night and slipping away unseen? Is the SAS commando on the ground more culpable than the officers who sent him there to do precisely what he did?
By attempting to judge these men by first world peace time standards is an argument, at its core, against special operations forces, against war itself. Do we really need to destroy the lives of our warrior sons to take a stand against war?
“Do we really need to destroy the lives of our warrior sons to take a stand against war?”
Seriously, I don’t think you’re even living on the same planet as the rest of us.
“Our warrior sons”? Since when are we in Sparta?
Australia happens to occupy a continent, an ocean away from Afghanistan where “our warrior sons” are merrily destroying the lives of Afghanis who never did anything to harm Australia.
Which do you think the Afghani families would prefer, having their own children’s throat slit or “destroy(ing) the lives of our (foreign invader) warrior sons”?
Which option do you suppose would be supported by the principle of simple justice?
When you send your sons to fight and die in some foreign land, it is grossly unfair to then turn on them for doing the dirty work for which they were sent.
The Australian government sent these men to Afghanistan to fight a brutal counter-insurgency war. The Generals over them made the decisions and adopted the strategies…and the officers pick the targets/strategies. The actual soldier on the ground? What exactly does he decide? Lets stop pretending that we send our soldiers off to foreign lands to spread democracy with flowers and candy. They are there to KILL. There is no standing army to be fought in Afghanistan. The enemy are the people of Afghanistan. We impose our will on them by killing them if they oppose our dictates. We terrorize them into submission with violence. Period. If you don’t like it, then argue against the policy and those who made it…not the men who were sent to carry it out.
News flash, their are atrocities committed in all wars. Sometimes atrocities are the result of individual excess, but more often they are the intended consequences of the orders given. Violence against civilians is not a by-product of the war, it is what the war is all about…and you people want to virtue signal by throwing these men under the bus? Because they killed people in a war? Because they followed orders? When you are done hanging the Generals and Colonels, get back to me about the privates and the nco’s.
What exactly is it that you people want other than to destroy these men’s lives? These men did not start the war, they didn’t decide where to fight, who to fight, or how. Their superiors, who are not being subjected to this witch hunt, made those decisions. They should be held accountable to the laws of war…it was their job to make sure those laws were followed in the field. The grunts in the field don’t have the luxury of such things. They don’t get to debate orders in the field, they are REQUIRED to carry them out. If you go down this road, why would any young man join the military and fight for his country? Why would he follow orders to kill if he knows that after the war some virtue signaling snowflakes are going to destroy his life for it? Exactly who will defend you then?
“What exactly is it that you people want other than to destroy these men’s lives?”
I would have thought it was fairly self-evident what us people want – Get The F*ck Out Of Other People’s Countries And Stop Being A Mercenary For The Empire. (Sentences in all caps are not permitted,MOD).
And in concert with that objective, stop hijacking, bombing up, maiming, murdering and generally trashing other countries that have done Australia no harm and which have never presented any threat to Australia.
“These men did not start the war, they didn’t decide where to fight, who to fight, or how.”
But by golly, they sure do seem to enthusiastically get into the spirit of things once they’re there.
The same logic could be applied to a bunch of hit-men employed by the Mafia. Care to leap to their defense?
“Their superiors, who are not being subjected to this witch hunt, made those decisions. They should be held accountable to the laws of war…”
Indeed, it goes all the way to the top. Let’s send them ALL off to the Haig and from there to the gallows. A whole bucketload of American, British & Australian politicians from the last 30 years should be looking down the barrel at a very short future. No doubt a good portion of the global society would agree, and rightly so.
We’d probably also all agree to rounding up all the Mafia types and sending them off to court, too, but good luck with that.
“The grunts in the field don’t have the luxury of such things. They don’t get to debate orders in the field, they are REQUIRED to carry them out.”
The Nuremburg trials established the principle that “following orders” is not a valid defence if the orders followed were illegal in the first place. The most basic tenets of morality scream out against the idea that arbitrarily accosting a couple of random teenage kids, slitting their throats and dumping their corpses in a river could be justified by obedience to “orders”. And so too for all the other gratuitous killings of simple farmers and their families.
You claimed in your previous post that these are “honorable men”, and that maybe there are a few bad apples among them. Now you argue that they were just “following orders”. I don’t consider people who kill defenceless farmers, villagers and children without batting an eyelid, even to the point of arbitrarily selecting and personally executing shackled prisoners just for the fun of it, to be “honorable men”, whether or not they claim to be “following orders”. I would asses them to be homicidal psycopaths unfit for civilised society.
“If you go down this road, why would any young man join the military and fight for his country?”
What road are we on exactly? Who exactly is fighting for our country? How does being a stooge mercenary force for the American Empire, shooting up the joint and butchering innocent people in a foreign country that has never presented any threat to Australia, in any way consititute “fight(ing) for his country”?
“Why would he follow orders to kill if he knows that after the war some virtue signaling snowflakes are going to destroy his life for it?”
Why would any decent person “follow orders to kill” defenceless farmers and villagers and their families in a foreign country that Australia has no absolutely no business being in?
If standing up for the right of Afghan farmers and villagers to live their lives in their own country and not be butchered by a bunch of foreign mercenaries makes me a “virtue signaling snowflake”, then count me in.
“Exactly who will defend you then?”
Maybe I’m a little slow – but please remind me why I need defending from a bunch of farmers and villagers and children in Afghanistan so much, that we need to send hordes of trained assassins over there to randomly slit their throats and shoot them in the head, out on the dirt roads or in the fields or in their modest homesteads or in their barns, and often after first tying them up so they are completely incapacitated?
I think I’d much prefer to have real soldiers here in Australia, not a bunch of Hannibal Lecters rampaging around Afghanistan, on standby to protect the Australian continent where Australians actually live.
I know it’s a radical thought, but that’s just me.
“Do we really need to destroy the lives of our warrior sons to take a stand against war?”
That’d be a question for Australia to answer. As Allen said, we’re not your judge or saviour. However the converse of your statement is interesting indeed and highlights some idiosyncratic nature of the empire’s logic: that is Should Australia allow the destruction of innocent lives so that its “warrior sons” may live?
“Fair go” indeed.
I’m not saying the “warrior sons” are to have the intellect of Mark Twain or Hemmingway, that’s not their function. But if one is to keep a bunch of the meanest and most ruthless psycho pit bulls at the ready, at least keep them on a tight leash.
Irrespective of how it’ll be packaged Australia and by extension the empire was caught out. Trying to reason out of it is just poor form. Own it, cop it and something about the stiff upper lip….
WTF? … “These are honorable men” … where’s the evidence for that? Better get FB ‘fact checkers’ onto that. Lol.
The same lame excuses as the German guards who helped Jews and other ‘undesirables’ into their gas chamber showers. Just following orders! How far our values have drifted since the end of the WW2 war crime trials! Wars of aggression (Bush&Blair&Howard) — not a peep within international courts. I don’t know what is more obnoxious (and evil, even) — the original crimes done in the miasma of geopolitical deceit, or the lame covering up waddled out afterwards to keep morale up. Good men don’t do that type of shit — full stop. If you haven’t grown up and worked that out, then you should not be holding a gun. But it is the tone at the top that sets the agenda. When you have a world situation where that American witch who ran the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse programme is now heading the CIA then what clearer picture needs to be shown of the almost total cynical corruption of the western system. Bullies, drug runners and psychopaths beyond the rule of law. Outlaws basically.
The Aust SAS etc are little more than for-hire Nepalese Gurkhas employed at the margins to do the dirty work at midnight (mass-media time): all pumped up with white colonial rule ‘honor and duty’ mythology etc. Smedley D. Butler was right — war is a racket (for crime and big business) and those in it are willing dupes mostly, or blind. Flags and uniforms (and secret oaths to foreign monarchs) change nothing except the self delusional wrapping needed to manage the cognitive dissonance involved.
I’m Australian (5/6 gen); white; male; 56-yo and disgusted with much of what plays out here as civilized life. No one, and I mean NO ONE, in this BS country can look anyone in the eyes and claim the moral high ground while the likes of the Truth-Teller Julian Assange rots in a British prison without Australian government support, without criminal charge and a play-thing for an absolutely corrupt US kleptocracy that values vindictive vengeance above natural civilized justice. No, buddy, these “honorable men (and women)” are the ones who stand up and blow the whistle on what criminal public servants beyond the law are illegally doing in our collective names. They are the heroes!
Your heroes were fingered by one of their own who recognised what was happening was criminal, sinful, disgusting behaviour.
I don’t want psychopaths murdering people in my name.
Especially not retarded Afghani teenagers.
Do we really need to destroy the lives of our warrior sons to take a stand against war?
Yes, if you going to frame in that way, because those “warrior sons” had total impunity to kill civilians without any repercussions. I’d add that it is the system and politicians that contribution to the destruction of ‘warriors’, only the authorities in Australia could change a system, that has run through generations, from Australian participation in Vietnam to Afghanistan.
“These are honorable men”, by whose standard? that phrase smacks of waylaid but totally blind hero worship, oddly the same claptrap drivel that gets pushed down the throats of ‘muricans, in order to feel more smug.
@Bobm,
This gets into the politics of so many things. Should Australian soldiers be in Afghanistan in the first place? What war and for whom are they fighting? Whose fault is it when soldiers are inserted to fight an unjust war? The soldiers? The politicians? Or perhaps the citizens themselves – as Australia is a “democracy”?
You tone seems to suggest that you think Australian soldiers are fighting a just war in Afghanistan, in terrible conditions, forced to respond to threats left and right and … somehow accidentally made mistake here and there …
I actually think it’s a travesty for Australians to be in Afghanistan, there to terrorize and intimidate.
A few years ago, an image of Australians flying Nazi swastikas surfaced in Afghanistan.
I think the killings and these sort of reports are all just signs of the moral decadence of the West’s military campaigns around the world. It’s force and intimidation pure and simple. Australia is racing with the U.S. to be the “biggest terrorist” to the planet, fighting terrorism by intimating the rest of the world down.
Sorry for my tone above. It’s not personal. It’s a heart-felt conviction. It is why for me the art is so powerful … and Australia’s response so revolting.
Spot on ! As an Australian I am disgusted with our Countries Politicians. Especially the loud mouthed & arrogant PM (Morrison) – talker in tounges in his religious fantansies & just a plain Idiot. It’s true that Australia has been bad mouting China for teh last 2 years using our propaganda Channels the ABC & SBS.
Any pain felt by Australia will be well deserved – other Australians I’ve spoken to agree. The Labour party are a bunch of gutless & brainless fools — what a shame they are our 2 choices.
Citizens Party have big infrastructure plans and a nationalised bank giving Australia sovereignty over its own money supply again
Here we have a classic case of virtue signalling. Zero analysis, historical or political. James wants us to feel his feelings…which are about as shallow as a puddle in the Nullarbor Plain.
As Geoge Orwell once wrote is a short essay ‘Notes on Nationalism’ in which he used the term ‘nationalism’ in a very broad sense.
‘’By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. But secondly – and this is much more important – I mean the habit of identifying with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognising no other duty than that of advancing its interests. Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism.’’
Thus the whole blocs of humanity, Chinese, Indian, Arabic, Latino, can be written off as Untermensch and disposable. To choose two examples of the this doctrine of mass extermination being systematically carried out against the lower orders has been going on from the time of the Amritsar massacre in India 1919 to the My Lai massacre of 1968, and I almost forgot the blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem carried out by Irgun terrorists killing 90 people in 1947. But all of this mass murder was apparently okay.
Such policies have been rebranded as R2P, (Responsibility to Protect) but can be extended to R2B (Responsibility 2 Bomb) R2A (Responsibility to Assassinate) R2S (Responsibility to Sanction/Starve) R2Sg (Responsibility to Subjugate). Marvellous instrument the England Language.
In modern realpolitik Orwell goes on to say. ‘’Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage – torture, use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians, – which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side’’
I believe it is of the utmost importance in discussions of this nature, to differentiate between a nations ordinary people and their government. Sadly, These days, the media is merely an extension of government, so do not expect impartial reporting there.
The people who really rule the USA are no different to the people who rule China. They are greedy, bloodthirsty, self serving megalomaniacs. They crave the complete subordination of the masses and are prepared to go to any lengths to achieve it. In truth, the ordinary people of both countries would be better off without them.
For all their posturing, the Australian government is no different. If the media bias and draconian measures during the lock-downs is anything to go by and the zeal with which they were implemented, then Chinas mass surveillance and its social credit system is the Australian governments wet dream.
Sovereignty and independence go hand in hand. Australia was badly served by successive governments when they allowed Australia to become so dependent on the US for defense and China for its economy.
I fear that Australia is being set up to act as a tripwire for China. If so, this would prove disastrous for the peoples of Australia and China. You can bet that if it ever comes to a shooting war, that the “leaders” of all countries involved will be a very long way from the front line and you or your children will be at the battle front.
Yes every country has its dark secrets.
Despite the fact that many unpublished crimes have been committed against diverse communities by some Australian soldiers , politicians, corporations over the few hundred years.
And it is true that Oz Politicians are licking up to the US Mafia. To the disadvantage of their own people.
Australian people are still led to believe that as a country it is faultless and clean in comparison to its alleged adversaries. As so lied to by their Politicians and Media.
Same story goes on in China and the US any country that eschews nationalist fervour.
We know that nationalism is a tool to manipulate and control individuals thru their empoverished ego structures. Is that not you Mr Lu ?
Identification turns out to be the root of all miseries.
Scrape thin mask off this writer fellow and those commentators gleefully condemning Australia and you will also see the violence.
Tho the article has merit, and makes some good points it is not clean or entirely honest.
A reflection on the writer.
This goes for many of the vilifting comments section .much speculation and hapless rhetoric
Bigotry begets bigotry.
I would not call the said doctored photograph Art any more than the War propaganda posters of the previous World War which also evoked Emotive Power. Fear and hatred .
Largely Australian people are pretty revolted about the behaviour of their elite soldiers .
As they would be by other hidden National secrets.
Majority of the people of Australia That I have had the good fortune to meet are generous kind and accepting of others from differing cultures those very newcomers who share in making this Country very rich in many ways.
Yu Yu could give the Oz Govt some credit for allowing the Investigation to be made public ,
I doubt that would be allowed in China .
China also has its dark side
Let Mr Lu speak of that.
Then of Love and Wisdom.
‘Largely Australian people are revolted’ by the cheekiness of the f*****g Chinese ‘bullies’! They are not revolted by what their ‘elite’ soldiers (SASR are the third best in the world!) did, but that their reputation was ‘sullied’ by the investigation (which was not initiated by the Oz Govt out of its devotion for ‘transparency’, but because it could not cover it up any longer and to avoid a far more damaging situation). Typically all admissions of wrongdoings are qualified by ‘turning the tables’, ‘whataboutism’, ‘look first at the log in your eye’ before ‘deeply offending’ the Aussies.
I think the Australian government needlessly provoked China with calls to investigate the origins of covid, no doubt from US prodding. I also see the investigation is going nowhere due to Chinese stonewalling, but lets just ignore that.
There are accusations that some SAS troops in Afghanistan were involved in war crimes, it is in all the Oz media, units are being disbanded and courts will sit to issue justice. Most Australians were shocked to hear this. Of course China never had a cultural revolution killing millions of their own and never invaded Tibet, their hands are spotlessly clean.
Most Australians are not bothered with insults at our politicians as we often agree. However I see the author of this racist tirade called all of us lowlifes. This following the Chinese government releasing a doctored fake picture of an Australian soldier threatening to kill an Afghan child. It was not art, it was propaganda.
Seems to me that China will be the next Bully on the block as the US declines. The last time an Australian leader stood up to the US he was thrown out of office, the lesson was learned. Yes, we should be independent but China has gone from a generally favorable public opinion to a largely negative one. Is this diplomacy is it, seems they should get some lessons from a professional like Lavrov.
Summed up nicely here in this short spoof…
From the link text: “A friend sent a hilarious video clip from an Aussie drama vividly depicting Australia’s strategic mentality & China role as an ideal “threat”. I would like it even more if it was Sir. Humphrey Appleby answering the questions in his masterful & elegant bureaucratic manner…”
https://twitter.com/Yang_Aotearoa/status/1333766598927159297
From a pragmatic viewpoint I see little value in Allen’s article. Ranting in the same tone and unrestrained, rabid thematic plastering so emphasised in the mainstream press given “Trump hate” during the last few months.
I can’t take seriously any of the media attention given to the 39 deaths of late. The bad behaviour of some SAS troopers in Afghanistan specifically in relation to these deaths were publicly addressed some years ago by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Nothing new.
I find Allen’s article verging on the comically ambiguous with reference to whatever exactly the argument and objective perception is supposed to be. Australians are evil troublemakers? The posting of the image by a Chinese politician on a Chinese government Twitter account defines the term conduct unbecoming. No matter the individually or publicly perceived justification, an elected Australian politician would likely be dismissed for a similar act. Therein lay the imbalance in the suppositions implied within Allen’s writing. Democracy does not exist in China and nor does the same level of accountability. Not for politicians at all given this example. One of the “perks” of being part of a totalitarian communist government I suppose.
As if a single individual within the Chinese government cares at all about 39 Afghans. The CCP would happily drive over many times that number in construction machinery to build part of that silk road. Couldn’t care less about their own people. Wouldn’t 39 be about an average day and a half of executions(?) and all that state sanctioned organ harvesting from these executions. What proportion of these are of political prisoners and persecuted minorities? Not much point writing about the ongoing cultural extermination of minorities given language and faith or the previous example of the same post annexation of Tibet.
China is hardly a nation demonstrably replete of moral and ethical character. In light of the above Allen has no business stating “…[Australia]…look first into the mirror and reflect upon what you as a nation have done to others.”
Please don’t forget that we are not playing “World Court of Justice” or “Western Farce in the Hague”. This is a war in which a quiet, submissive opponent all of a sudden decides to biff the mouthy, puffed-up Western colonial outpost in East Asia without kowtowing or seeking accommodation under the table. The important thing is that the “holier than thou” cant emanating from Australia and its eternal masters doesn’t cut it no mo.
The Chinese might be the cruelest, nastiest race on Earth (far from it) and they are still right to do this. They haven’t occupied somebody else’s land and treated the aborigines as cattle – they themselves were treated thus by your Anglo masters.
Uncle Sam has promised to have your back – until he implodes from debt and civil war. What then?
Your post seems somewhat off-topic, tangential. Essentially factually incorrect on all the incongruent statements therein.
What I will point out is there’s very little to be gained by China with the ongoing infantility.
Perhaps Australia presently is simply the latest target of opportunity. In yet another state sanctioned attempt to distract the domestic populace from the increasing diplomatic isolation of China by pretty much everybody else. General Secretary Xi has outdone Kaiser Wilhelm from a century ago in that regard.
To distract from… becoming World’s leading super power WITHOUT GENOCIDING DOZENS OF INNOCENT NATIONS? None of us has anything against decent Ausse folk many of whom have been at the vanguard of anti-imperialist struggle. What we are all applauding is the slap in the face of the notion that the genocidal Anglo-American imperial paradigm (30-40 million killed since 1945) is untouchable and eternal. It is evaporating as we speak and good riddance.
Greetings to the good people of Australia, out with the bad chip-on-the-shoulder sub-anglo political class!
HD is correct to point out that the tweeting PRC diplomat actually has zero concern for murdered Afghan civilians. Whilst there may be some historical justification for invading Inner Mongolia and East Turkestan, there is none for Tibet. In Tibet the PRC continues with one of the most brutal and genocidal occupations in world history. It is PRC policy to ethnically cleanse the Tibetans from their homeland. In comparison Australia’s crimes are scarcely worth mentioning.
Nonetheless, this issue is interesting because it demonstrates the current unravelling of Western propaganda. My favourite being President Aliyev’s splendid response to the BBC’s Orla Guerin, asking quite correctly why a country that imprisons journalists has the right to comment on press freedom in other countries. This kind of ‘cognitive dissonance’ in which excessively smug ‘liberal’ types have their hypocritical world views upended is something I just can’t get enough of…
As for the PRC, in my view it isn’t Communist or even particularly Chinese. So my criticism is that it has corrupted state socialism into cronyism and dictatorship, and replaced traditional Chinese values with plastic Western ones. I support Taiwanese independence because this nation still retains some aspects of traditional Chinese culture. Whereas on the mainland it has been completely destroyed. This is a tragic loss for the whole world, but happily this will not hold back the Chinese people. Even shorn of their past talented young Chinese people will rise to fore in all fields of endeavour (but particularly in commerce).
The point is that many Australian politicians seem unable to accept the idea of a more powerful non-white country. According to the Australian PM his country remains committed to ‘constructive dialogue…it’s in our interests to do that, it’s in the interests of the Chinese government to do that…’ Er, no…in fact they could kick you out completely and barely notice the loss. The same is true of America’s long running suppression of Japan; both are examples of an underlying racism.
Great art, scientific inventions and spiritual accomplishments all belong to mankind equally. My fear is that a Somali boy picking through a rubbish tip may potentially be a world saving doctor, or that a young girl in a Brazilian favela may be an artist capable of inspiring humanity. These blessings for mankind will never come to pass until all forms of racism, prejudice and inequality are rooted out and destroyed. Land resources are everywhere completely misused and the same is true of human resources. Until we learn to nurture and treasure all the world’s children, our future will remain uncertain.
(Elizabeth Barrett Browning)
‘…the child’s sob curseth deeper in the silence
than the strong man in his wrath.’
Ask the right questions, get the right answers:
Q: Why does Morrison quarrel with China over a citizen’s cartoon,
but not quarrel with the UK torturers of their own citizen Assange?
Q: Why do Aussie battleships have freedom of navigation in Chinese waters,
but Chinese citizen cartoonists have no freedom of speech in Chinese media?
Q: Why does a pure and clean Kiwi PM Arden support Morrison
in this dirty and dishonourable murder of 39 civvies?
Q: Why Does France scold China for a citizen’s anti-inhumanity cartoon,
but excuse their own citizens’ anti-Islam cartoons?
Morrison whined Tuesday, “Australia will remain true to our values……”
Upon which Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying asked:
— “What are the values that Australia wants to uphold?
— Are the crimes proven in Afghanistan consistent with Australian values?
— Australian soldiers killed innocent people but (Australia) does not allow
others to comment. Is this in line with Australia’s values?”
And the Chinese boy drew another cartoon:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208721.shtml
The twist to this story is that America is China’s bitch.
talk about the pot calling the kettle black………..
yep, it is about time China rubs it in their faces, needles these hypocrites to our heart’s content.
Expat Australian — a human being, not an Aussie low life politician — feels ashamed as an Australian, saying the Australia he left 10 years ago is not today’s Australia:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208811.shtml
I live DownUnder. Most are realistic and don’t respond to MSM knowing it is bs. The noise makers are the one’s the media is attracted to and so the PM’s response -pathetic-, being Amerika’s yapdog is strangely accepted for the ANZUS alliance which actually has no provisions for anyone to help anyone. Yet the regime’s poodles have been pedling the need for protection since La Perouse sailed into Botany Bay late 18th century. Yet by Vietnam’s war too many were, me included against it. Then a pause, and since Amerika’s New Century cooked up by the neo cons the elite DownUnder have been obedient to foreign policies totally divorced to local conditions on the ground. The disconnect is so real it is a con no one notices yet everybody accepts willingly. Knowing this no one protests at this connection with the Amerikan Empyrium intent on world domination. Baiting the PRC and local business’s fuming at the government’s stupidity but saying nothing either. The media is utterly obsessed with confecting a non existent enemy. I wonder if we are being softened up for much worse. Practiced upton by the emergent viral diktatur though here people are protesting, at last. As the Chinese saying goes: interesting times.
too bad there wasn’t a link to the art – I hadn’t heard about this and I don’t think you had it in the article.
I still don’t know exactly what this ‘art’ was – a soldier carrying a lamb. I don’t get it.
good article though
Anne
The link is there in the article above. Click on the highlighted “Li JianZhou twitted”. This will take you to the twitter string. Once there, click on “View” in the twitter message box below Lijian’s comment to see the artwork. The link offered by kiwiklown is not as good as, in that image, the child has been blurred.
hi, Ann, here is the original cartoon that “offended” Morrison more than his special forces’ murders of 39 children, including two 14 year-old boys beheaded, stuffed into bags, thrown into rivers (all documented by their own Aussie investigation):
https://www.oversixty.com.au/news/news/arrogant-hypocrites-chinese-media-s-new-attack-on-australia-with-disturbing-cartoon
In the artwork, the Aussie soldier is about to slit the throat of a child, who innocently cuddles a lamb, the composition recalling Jesus, the Lamb of God. In the bottom left hand corner is what looks like the corpse of another child, wrapped in a corner of the Australian flag.
Morrison jumped at the chance to scold China loudly, hoping to take the gaze off of his murderous special boys.
In other news today, a former Defense Minister of Canada recalled how he disbanded the Canadian special forces after just one (1) war crime, the murder of a 16 year-old by his special boys. Canada, it would seem, have no special forces now.
No Special Forces, just specially trained “contractors”, “observers”, “trainers” and “advisors”.
Hello Allen Yu,
May I commend you on a very very good writeup, with spot-on, accurate observations presented. Sexy news headline too. In Australian linguistic parlance, Morrison and the Australian media are “being precious”. Common pastime. The broadside to China is distraction and disinformation to slyly claim Australia as a victim.
It is surprising to see so many Australians commenting on the Saker website, and that is because, I do believe, no such comment platform is permitted to exist in Australia. The people’s (pov’s) views in Australia is tightly controlled. None of the media in Australia is owned or used for the purpose of Australia’s own national interests, and only occasionally in the darkness, you read beacons of the truth. I could be wrong about this.
The 39 dead is Australia’s own internal finding. Personally I do not think the Afghans will permit the matter to rest there, and they have just as powerful Asian friends. The Afghans are the victims, and they have their own tally (total killed) over many years, which has not seen the light of day as yet, and which has a range far higher than 39. This kill tally detail is not fixed in stone, and will be disputed, and has a very long long pathway to travel. Australia is simply trying to get in first, to shorten the pathway, with a lower tally.
Francisco
One can be sure that the indictment of the President of ‘Kosovo’, Hashim Thaci, and three other former leaders of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), all ‘heroes’ of the ‘Kosovo war for independence’ for war crimes, signaled that the ICC mission is not restricted to punishing Milosevices, Sadam Husseins, Bashar al-Assads, but war crimes wherever and by whoever have been committed.
Remember the ”strange case of two Australian ‘aid workers’ detained in Yugoslavia” for spying at the beginning of the ‘war for Kosovo’ – Major Steve Pratt and Peter Wallace, which attracted the furious reaction of AusGov: “”Spy outrage: Aussies guilty before a trial”? The even stranger case of David Hicks, fighter for the Kosovo Liberation Army? The ‘red carpet’ for ‘Kosovar refugees’?
The danger that the hapless SAS who were following orders could be indicted by the ICC and the role of AusGov in all sorts of less than ‘transparent’ operations on behalf of the ‘Five Eyes’ could be exposed was too great. The ‘Brereton inquiry’, allegedly dragging for years, was quickly ‘finalized’ to circumvent such possibility.
Australia made the biggest noise about ‘doping in sport’ to distract attention from the doping of Aussie athletes and swimmers who won medals at the Sydney Olympics 2000.
The latest updates:
The whistle blower for the war crimes committed by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan, David McBride is facing up to five national security-related charges, including theft of Commonwealth property and unlawfully disclosing a Commonwealth document, which carry a sentence of up to life imprisonment. There is a petition to free him that has gathered 36,000 signatures:
https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/petition-to-free-afghan-war-crimes-whistleblower-david-mcbride-reaches-36-000-signatures?=
However, Attorney-General Christian Porter told parliament it would be inappropriate for the government to intervene in the case:
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7034250/feds-wont-intervene-in-david-mcbride-case/
I think this article which starts out on an aggressive tack, for me being an Australian, coming from a military family comes full circle & finishes with great grace & wisdom,
Firstly, Australia does take responsibility for the crimes committed by a group of SAS officers in Afghanistan, crimes which shocked the country & which have been the subject of an extensive enquiry which will lead to criminal charges being laid,
I most certainly agree with freedom of speech & expression, however with that comes a responsibility, however in the case with the Mohammad cartoons, I always thought, why do that except to outrage? & why is it now that Christian symbols or figures can be represented ingloriously & no one cares? in the case of the so called ‘artwork’ in question, being an artist I do not see that as art, it is made just to shock & it is fake news if you wish, that scene never happened,
Thirdly the high ranking diplomat knew very well what kind of reaction he may elicit, publishing such an offensive image is not the normal stuff of high level diplomacy,
Maybe some growing up can occur on both sides,
Thank you