As in my previous post, I will begin with referring you to two pieces.
First, the typical China-bashing propaganda: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taiwan-bristles-lashes-out-after-chinas-record-aerial-show-force
Second, a very solid debunking of the China-bashing crap above: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/how-ap-reuters-and-scmp-propagandize-their-readers-against-china.html
By the way, I also highly recommend to all my readers to read Moon of Alabama (https://www.moonofalabama.org/) at least once a day. ‘b’ is a very solid analyst and his website is superb. Even better is the fact that he often writes about topics I do not cover, or he covers them differently, so make sure to check him out daily :-)
Now about China.
There is no doubt in my mind that the Anglos have had China in the crosshairs for a while and that now China has become the evil, devious boogeyman #1, displacing Russia from that position. By the way, this hysterical paranoia and hatred of China is equally shared by the two indistinguishable factions of the single Imperial Party which runs the USA: hatred for China is a political consensus, at least in the USA ruling class (hence the stupid “CCP virus” expression and other such illiterate infantilisms).
Here is my strictly personal and subjective interpretations of what happened and why China is now the Official Enemy Number One Hypervillain.
I will begin by comparing China to the other two AngloZionist Official Hypervillain Enemies Number 2 and 3.
Russia. The US/NATO/EU policy on Russia has comprehensively failed. It has failed politically (the Evil Putin “KGB killer” is still in power and does not even have a semi-serious competitor – pro-Western sentiments in Russia are now somewhere in the 1-2 percent max), economically (Russia has recovered from both sanctions and the COVID induced crisis and is booming, at least compared to the West) and militarily (the US and NATO are now the proverbial paper tigers). Finally, the entire “Ukrainian strategy” has also faceplanted and has now turned into an unmanageable nightmare for the EU (which richly deserves this). In other words, Europe is now a “bad place” for the USA which really can’t do much to change this reality.
Iran. The US/NATO/EU policy on Iran has also comprehensively failed. Yes, Iran is going through very difficult times, the sanctions and COVID did, and are still, hurting it, but militarily Iran has successfully defeated the AngloZionist alliance in two ways: first, by deterring the AngloZionists from a direct attack (so far) and by showing its true capabilities in its superb missile strikes on US bases: a CENTCOM+Israeli attack on Iran would be suicidal, and the AngloZionists know it (even while they deny it). Add to this the Russian+Iranian victory in Syria and the terminal inability of the Israelis to deal with Hezbollah and and Saudis to deal with the Houthis, and you will see that the Middle East is yet another “bad place” for the USA which really can’t do much to change this reality (if they attack Iran it will be the end of Israel and CENTCOM). And I won’t even mention the Kabul event which showed to the word the true face and capabilities of the US armed forces.
Which logically leaves only China as the Official Enemy Number One Hypervillain. Here are a few reasons for that:
- China is the biggest and strongest economic power on the planet and the Chinese are geniuses in commerce and trade.
- China is run by a leadership which the US cannot control, break, corrupt or otherwise subdue (I am talking about the leadership collectively, not individuals; traitors exist everywhere).
- China and Russia have a very successful alliance which the Anglos tried very hard to break by spreading anti-Chinese propaganda in Russia and anti-Russian propaganda in China. The result? The two countries are MORE than “just” allied, they are symbionts who are so “perfectly different” and that “fit together” like Lego pieces!
- China has made incredible progress in the military field: in the 80s and 90s, China had a huge military, but which was decades behind the USA and the USSR/Russia. This is now changing very very fast and has been for 20 years.
- While the US has a money printing press, China has actual technologies and real manufacturing capabilities and the outcome here is not in doubt: it’s just a matter of time before the quasi industrialized USA becomes un-rescuable by just printing billions of dollars.
- The US cannot control the Chinese Internet, which deprives it from is main weapon (all that crap about human rights, the (non-) massacre in Tiananmen, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet etc. etc. etc. as if the West was not the worst violator of human rights on the planet, and by far!)
I am sure there are many more reasons, but the above is just a sample. It is crucial to keep in mind the difference between reasons and pretexts. Nobody in the Western ruling class gives a damn about human rights or any other Chinese problems (fictional or very real). And I am not denying that there are real problems in China, like in any other country by the way. I am saying that the Western rhetoric about China is hypocritical crap.
Also, China does have real weaknesses. I will list only the few I am aware of:
- While the Chinese military has made immense progress, it is mostly technological. Russian officers who trained with their Chinese counterparts regularly report that “culture” of the Chinese ground forces is still much inferior to, say, the Russian ones. But I bet you that a Chinese soldier in defense of his own land will outperform any Anglo imperialist soldier fighting for “democracy” (Ha!) thousands of miles away from home. Again, like the USA, the Chinese culture is not really a military one and the strengths of the Chinese lie elsewhere (commerce, emigration, business, etc.). Also, it is likely that the problems reported by Russian military advisors about the Chinese ground forces do not apply to “high tech” domains such as aerospace, acoustics, etc. Finally, even if historically the Chinese are not a nation born warriors, it is likely that this weakness is much more evident in “general purpose” military forces and is much less applicable to the PRC’s specialized and high-tech forces (Air Force, Navy, special forces, ELINT, etc.)
- The Chinese are still struggling in some key military technology domains, such as aircraft engines, but they are catching up really fast. From the Anglo point of view, this means that it is a “now or never” situation, lest China accomplishes what Russia did between 2000 and 2021, which they might.
- China, like Russia, is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state, which is why the Anglos always try to use this diversity against the peoples of China (they failed in Russia, but in Chechnia they came very close, so we should never discount that real Anglo capability!).
- China is run by the Communist Party of China which inevitably brings images of Nike-Gulags, devious secret agents and all the rest of the stuff Anglos like to scare themselves with. That the word “Communism” in 2021 has a totally different meaning than in the 20th century is too complex a notion for many to even contemplate.
- As many of my readers know, I do not consider that Russia is culturally part of Europe, but it is geographically European, at least west of the Urals, and the Russians are (mostly) “White” which Western racists nowadays seem to like a lot (not so much in the times of Nazi Europe, obviously). So the bad old European racism, itself a pretext for imperialism, is even worse with these “Fu-manchu gooks”. Sinophobia has a particularly long history in the United States, much older than Russophobia, by the way.
- China is at least partially surrounded by Anglo colonies run comprador elites (Taiwan, Japan, etc.) and by countries who fear the very real regional influence and power of China (Philippines, India, etc.).
- The US has some truly ideal “unsinkable bases” in the region (Japan, Hawaii, Australia, etc.) which are hard to neutralize (but that is also changing, and quickly).
Again, this is a partial list, and I am sure that our commentators can expand on this, or point out that some of my assumptions are simply wrong.
But let’s not overthink this either.
The Western ruling elites are in a panic and they are consolidating into a smaller but potentially tougher “Anglosphere” whose best (or “least bad”) positions are in the Pacific (as I have always maintained, big, multinational alliances are great as fig-leafs to justify imperialism, but militarily they inevitably suck, badly). From their point of view this policy of “circling the wagons” (expression straight from genocidal, imperialistic times) makes sense and is really the only viable option.
I will mention a few good news, and then let our commentators take over. Here are a few good ones:
- Russia will never allow the Anglosphere to defeat China militarily. Simply put, she can’t afford it. I will make a prediction: Chinese SSNs will, in the near future, get much better sensors and integration, they “develop” better quieting technologies and faster SSNs with smaller crews and superior automation. As for Chinese aircraft, they are already very impressive, and China does not have the same need as Russia for advanced long range strategic bombers (where they still lag behind the most): they can use missiles instead.
- The pace of progress of the PRC is truly amazing and, unlike Russia’s, the Chinese industrial base is huge and once they “get” a technology “right” – they can produce it in huge amounts. So even IF the best Chinese submarine is still inferior or, at best, more or less on par, with the original Los Angeles class, they can produce them (and other ships or aircraft) in much larger amounts than the Anglosphere.
- The Chinese space program does, to my admittedly non-engineer eyes, look much more promising that the PR crap of Bezos or Musk managed to peddle to the terminally misinformed US tax payer. This is very important, crucial even, for modern warfare.
- The Chinese leaders are (FINALLY!) speaking up!! In the past, it was all Putin and Russia, the Chinese mostly kept a low profile, but now they are confident enough to call a “stone and stone” and they are very successfully hitting back at the Anglo propaganda, openly and bluntly.
- By all accounts, the Chinese are proud patriots who will not sell their newly and very painfully acquired sovereignty to anybody (good for them, may all countries follow this model!). They also know history, including how the Anglos waged war on them to sell opium (no crap about human rights then, just brute gang warfare). They can also look at modern Japan and see what true Anglo domination can do to an ancient and noble culture.
Again, I invite you all to add to this list, or dispel my misconceptions!
My personal bottom line is this: the major powers are all preparing for a major war in Far East Asia and the Pacific. God willing, and with the wise leadership of Putin and Xi, it will never happen.
But yes, China is, in my opinion, definitely in the Anglo crosshairs.
Now I turn this over to you.
Hugs and cheers
Andrei
One point not mentioned, which is a huge advantage.
The US needs to project power and exert hegemony far from its ‘island’ base.
China (like Russia) is in the business of defense.
Offense requires far more resources and global logistics.
Offense is always more difficult.
It is easier to find good defenders than genius strikers (even in soccer).
In all real life war, the defenders always find innovative ways to stymy even overwhelming odds & technology arrayed against them (short of outright genocide, terror, and ecocide).
All very good points, thank you for pointing them out!
The attacker’s advantage is that they get to choose when, where and how to fight and they wouldn’t launch an offensive if it isn’t going to succeed *in the short term*. The medium and long term problem for the attacker is what happens when the defender absorbs the attack, figures out how to counter the attacker’s tactics and launches a counter attack? It’s the counter-attack that keeps the generals awake at night.
In terms of Taiwan, it doesn’t have the land mass (and consequently, the in-depth defence) needed to absorb an attack to give it time to develop a counter-attack. That means that the war will be over before anyone can react militarily.
As such, Taiwan’s only option is to make sure an attack isn’t possible in a strategic sense, and there are only two ways I can see that happening: 1) pack the island with US troops, say 50,000+ positioned around Taiwan operated anti-air and anti-shipping missiles, and dare China to shoot without harming US personnel. 2) Have the US organise for Israel to quietly give Taiwan a couple of nuclear armed SSB’s as a MAD deterrence and announce the fact to the world once the boat is on station somewhere in the Pacific.
The attacker’s advantage is that they get to choose when
True, and it is hard to remain on high defensive alert, so here I agree.
But that is one factor amongst many more.
But yes, seizing the initiative can create a HUGE advantage.
That is why intelligence services are for (at least in Zone B).
Cheers!
China also has the ability to choose the time of attack.
The US clearly plans to use Taiwan as the tool to goad China into making a false move. No doubt the Chinese are aware of it and have plans to deal with it.
My guess is there will be a Chinese initiated “colour revolution” in Taiwan with the intention to increase demands for reunification with China. This will force the US hand to either step up its political involvement in Taiwan or overtly take over the island. Either way the initiative will be with China.
Taiwanese have seen the fate of Afghanistan and I am sure they are acutely aware of their position. As with Korea and Japan most realise their position as an instrument of US imperial objectives but don’t say much about it. In any case there is a big chunk of the population, perhaps even the majority that wants reunion.
I do not feel that the CCP will use military force on Taiwan, only if forced somehow by other powers. As a Chinese, there is an understanding of brotherly love between Taiwanese and Mainlanders, despite all the propaganda saying otherwise. There is also an understanding in the CCP leadership that such a war, even a quick and relatively painless one, will create casualties from the civilian population, which the CCP sees as it’s own people, a brotherly people under the rule of a usurper (often aided and abetted by foreign western powers). It will not needlessly draw casualties in such a war, unless it’s hand was forced unreasonably. Even though it knows that the Taiwan “democratic” project is a sham, the humanity aspect of a civil war is something that CCP elites do not simply gloss over like western elites. Maybe this is a biased construction, but I sincerely get this impression as a person who grew up in China.
Why does China have to use military force against Taiwan?
Taiwanese investment in the mainland is huge and can be used as leverage by mainland authorities. Taiwan is already trying to dissuade high tech labour from accepting the attractive packages offered on the mainland.
Any of the military moves by outsiders, that you suggest, would be countered immediately by China.
« The attacker’s advantage is that they get to choose when, where and how to fight … »
Generally true, but I am afraid is not applicable in a hypothetical conventional US attack against China. Given the size of China and her distance from the US, such an attack would require tremendous amount of logistical support, which takes months of preparations.
How long did the US prepare for Operation Overlord? Even though, the vast majority of the Wehrmacht was fighting in Russia, the US still needed to prepare extensively. There is a reason why Rommel anticipated the invasion. Desert Storm? Desert Storm II?
Even if the US would rope Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan into the war, preparations would be difficult to escape attention. I assume that just watching fuel deliveries would give a good idea of the intentions.
Of course, the US could do a good “hit-and-run” attack with forces already in the area, but this would provide zero gains but unknown consequences. China has plenty of options to create pain to discourage such scenarios. For example, hitting the Japanese industrial zone between Osaka and Tokyo would collapse the western economy and make the area uninhabited due to the chemical spills.
A nuclear attack would work, but the US would also get demolished; probably with the rest of the planet, too.
In short, I fail to see what military options the US has in the area.
The Washington DC crowd would do a provocation a la Ukraine and then a hit and run – very far away – Japan and Korean would not be enticed into a sham – way to smart for that especially with N Korea on the doorstep
The US has no personnel back up to fight that far away nor logistics to support even with Guam / Korea / Japan /
The Chinese would go in quietly and take Taiwan and show the uS is finally finised which is why USA sponsored Bio-Terror must be dealt with first
The point about bioweapons rings true. The ultimate ‘stand off’ weapon can be delivered in a vial and the source remains a mystery. Of course containing it once released is another matter altogether …
The psychopaths in charge are so greedy they will destory the world if they think it will increase their profits.
I fear that Anglo elites are narcissistic and far enough removed from reality, believing their own bullshit, that they could commit nuclear suicide in this scenario.
But right now, huge part of Taiwan Leadership “ruling elites” (almost all pro Taiwan-independence, but in different level), believe a war with China wouldn’t be suicidal (at least this is what they said, and said officially to their citizens and foreign countries, and are still saying), just see this article.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/taiwan-preparing-for-war-with-china/100511294
“If China is going to launch a war against Taiwan we will fight to the end, and that is our commitment.”
“I’m sure that if China is going to launch an attack against Taiwan, I think they are going to suffer tremendously as well.”
And Remember, Joseph Wu is Taiwan FM, (Sometimes, in here, Taiwan, I doubt it that he is also Taiwan DM).
So this IS Taiwan ruling elites official position and statement.
Even they don’t believe this nonsense privately, they said/ are saying/and will say this kind of things again, again, and again, publicly and superficially.
AND HUGE PART (even not absolutely majority people, but I would said at least 30%+, 40% IMO)OF TAIWAN PEOPLE TRULY BELIEVE THIS SUICIDAL NONSENSE.
This make the situation even more danger then most people (especially Taiwan people) think.
Finally, I would pray and hope the best. But the reality of Taiwan politic doesn’t support my hope and pray, maybe miracle or something else will.
China will never let the US put a large number of US troops in Taiwan: this is a casus belli and China will bomb the US soldiers before they have the time to put lots of them there.
How would the Saker describe the downward, Anglo-inspired spiral of Japan? State some examples.
@Webej, about attack and defense: I remember from my army service, for on the ground operations, if all other things are even (technology of arms readiness for battle), attacker needs 4 units of anything to have a chance to beat 1 unit of the same thing on defense side. That is for ground operations. Why would not it be similar ratio for air and missile forces and navy. A surprise or not so surprise attacks work against adversaries like Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Serbia, to a degree where attacker units vs defense did have 10:1 ratio (number of aircraft, ship launched missiles).
Like Andrey noted – USA/NATO might have had advantage in numbers of offensive units over China – in 1980. Since then Zone A countries have gone down in all areas of life, and lag behind China and Russia in so many things today. Russia was destroyed in 1990, yet they recovered. However, Zone A has no education, health or resource management skills necessary to get back on their feet. China and Russia will at least provide better care for injured and wounded in that hypothetical war. Whatever Zone A had 40 years ago has gone by now – human resources, all other resources as well. For Pete’s sake, UK cannot find enough truck drivers to deliver food and fuel? Do they really believe if they go to aggressive war all those problems at home will disappear? People hungry and cold will go to war to the opposite end of the world for what?
No worries, USA UK NATO have no advantages at all, nor they have means to wage a war of that magnitude.
Andrei wrote: China is definitely in the Anglo crosshairs.
I fully agree.
The war propaganda is in full swing, just take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=US+UK+and+Japan+send+aircraft+carriers+to+Taiwan
After the 9/11 induced Global: Terror – Wars of aggression – Financial fraud – Migrant crisis – Color Revolutions – Covid crisis – Energy crisis and hyperinflation, the European vassal Nations have had enough of the Evil Empire.
The Evil Empire is now reduced to being a British Empire, with the Crown calling the shots, and their vassals USA, Canada, Australia, India and Japan being the ones firing the shots.
It makes you wonders how long the American, Australian and Japanese people, will accept their vassalage to the Crown, and being the first nations in line for Chinese retaliation.
The Global Elite now fears its western population more than the CCP, and the only reason why the resurrected British Empire is “Circling the wagon”, is for the Global Elite to have a good public excuse for handing over Taiwan and Australia to China, when the first nuclear strike hits a Japanese aircraft carrier.
I truly think chinese culture does not have the abstract thinking ability that Jewish, christian, Anglo culture have. This will become the primary reason for Chinese inability to defeat US either military or economically.
Do you also truly think that you know Chinese culture enough to make such a statement?
At the very least, you are fluent in modern and ancient Chinese, right?
Please let us know!
As for the putatively inability of China to defeat the USA, in economic terms its already a done deal.
In military terms, only a war would prove it, but considering that the US has never been able to win a real war in its entire history, my bet is on the Chinese (who survived for many MILLENNIA while the US won’t be even able to make to to its 3rd century).
IMNSHO, your comment comes across as the garden variety AngloZionist media brainwashed ignoramus type of slogans, supported by nothing except illiteracy and crude racism :-)
Bye bye!
Andrei
It does not matter, because #1 the population is huge and there WILL be more than a few brilliant creative individuals, #2 who invented printing? #3 who developed gunpowder? Who came up with silk ? And Chinese progress in space (Mars lander, moon lander returning lunar samples) is amazing and a pleasure to see.
However, it does worry me that the US might use chemical or bacteriological weapons, weapons targeting something specific in the Chinese DNA. Recall the syphilis experiments on US blacks at Tuskegee, the Guatemala syphilis experiments, and the US bringing out the Japanese 731 unit personnel, just to mention the most prominent. The US has been collecting human DNA samples from China as well as Russia.
– Barn owl
you forgot one crucial thing: who invented rockets…. among other inventions…
“In military terms, only a war would prove it, ”
China already proved that it could defeat US + 17 nations, in 1950. And that was at a time when PRC was dirt poor, technologically and industrially backward, and internally unstable (e.g. Sichuan and Tibet unsettled, Chiang Kai-Sek still had forces in mainland, …)
If the US dare not attack Iran I think they will not be able to defeat the Chinese.
There will be no Opium War 3.
Good point.
actually number three is already happen. it is called opioid crisis. china is striking back same way with simular success. main source for legal and illegal synthetic morphine is china. this time anglo brains get grilled in masses. this will have a huge impact in the next decades. not US, but that what follows will pay tribute to china.
Andrei,
Have a smile at a brief vid of a USN warship and a lighthouse.
Sums it in the Pacific and eleswhere.
Sorry I can’t copy link on my tablet. Easy google search.
I know exactly the joke, and I like it :-)
San’s comment is pure racism, as you point out. But you say that “the US has never been able to win a real war”. Is that the deciding factor? I could propose that they have never lost a real war, from the Korean War until now. (I know, the Chinese like to think that they won that war but the outcome looked like stalemate to me.) Sure, the USAmericans have disengaged from many wars but were they defeated? I don’t think so. When was the last time anyone noticed a USAmerican General agreeing to terms of surrender? Despite all their rhetoric about eternal values such as freedom and democracy, the USAmericans seem always to initiate wars for short- to medium-term gains, which they seem to usually achieve. At great long-term cost admittedly.
Yes the Korean War is a stalemate but it is seen as a Chinese victory as it legitimized the CPC as a Chinese force that was able to stand up against a much more powerful US and its “allies” after a century. Despite heavier casualties and lack of firepower compared to the UN forces the PVA was able to rout them.
The US leadership has been scared of a direct military confrontation with China ever since. The fact the US fought a limited war in Vietnam, avoiding sending boots on the ground in the North emphasized this. If the US were as confident or arrogant to think that China would be a “cake walk” like the Iraq was they would have done the same already. Instead murica has to resort to underhanded tactics like sanctions, color revolutions, hostage diplomacy, alliances with “allies” all in an attempt to contain China, which have all failed.
Everything you say is true. Best wishes.
Actually I have no racism against China or Chinese people. I am living in an Island nation in south Asia and China had done more (than any other country) for the economic and national stability of our county. China has always been a true friend in need. In our country as a nation we suffer consequences of not having our own knowledge system that can compete with western knowledge, which I think is based on abstract thinking ability of Greek-Jewish-Christian culture.
Currently China is pursuing an economical development based on Western economic model which is at the end is a product of Western culture or Western knowledge system. As long as China could not produce a new model or new world order and make other countries to follow it, they will have a very little chance to win the battle against West.
“In our country as a nation we suffer consequences of not having our own knowledge system that can compete with western knowledge, which I think is based on abstract thinking ability of Greek-Jewish-Christian culture.”
May you please provide with an applicable example that shows such a difference? I have a difficult time figuring out how Asian people (and Chinese in particular) would be less prone to scientific and technological prowess than their Western counterparts.
I remember a short video in Youtube which showed a long bridge being built from scratch in China in just a few weeks, where it takes years in North America to be built and commissioned.
Please take a look at below two lists. How many Asian or Chinese personals do you see in these lists ?
Engineering and formulating theories in western science are two different things.
You may say economics is not physics or Math. Economic, Sociology or even Medicine are all following behind Physics and Mathematics.
1. Winners of Nobel prize for physics
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Winners-of-the-Nobel-Prize-for-Physics-1856942
2. Fields medalists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields_Medal#Fields_medalists
Are you seriously referring to the Nobel Prize country list as an argument?
It is like referring to the writings of western MSM while seeking for true information.
Much more objective measure would for instance be number of approved patent within engineering in recent years, number of graduates in technology in China, number of students in technology, number of applicant for the technology studies etc.
USA is institutionally preventing people of Asian origin to be technology students by introducing the quoting in black students with far lesser merits.
Plus all the historical invention which originated in China (paper, silk, gunpowder, rockets, printing etc.)
“Currently China is pursuing an economical development based on Western economic model”. Sorry, that is flat nonsense. The Chinese model is uniquely Chinese, the result of China’s unique culture, civilization and way of thinking. China is neither a capitalist economy, nor a communist economy. It is a uniquely Chinese economy. Japan, too, has a very unique form of capitalism that no Western country can ever copy.
The reality is, if you care to study and think through, every civilization and major ethnic group has possessed its own unique capabilities. The abstract Greek thinker is, alas, no more, and Greece is one of the least developed economies in Europe. As for Christian culture: Christianity is more or less dead in Western countries, and “abstract” thinking in the West is now largely around nonsensical issues (gender identity, who is to use which washroom, etc.).
BTW, there is no such thing as a knowledge system. There is knowledge or lack of it, but knowledge exists in the human mind and not in a system. The term knowledge system is a typical post-modern psychobabble, and post-modernism developed in a Western world facing alienation, confusion, boredom, loss of ideals, and loss of realism. Science and logic are based on realism, post-modernism is not. You are employing post-modernist “word constructs” in your thinking, to the detriment of realism.
Hello Saker,
Let’s not forget that the US won the war against the greatest of adversaries in Grenada.
Reports I’ve seen say that US wargaming against China end up in US defeat, time after time. This, if true, should deter the US from any intervention for Taiwan, especially as China is gaining in military strength and preparedness every day.
Wowsers!!!!!!!!!!
i did not think such people as this still existed outside cartoons. War these days is more about mathematics and rocketry, something at which the Chinese are very very good and much better than the USA.
Well, we sure are not dealing with a STEM-brain here anyway. Also, a quick look at a bell curve will tell you immediately what to expect from any comments section, even if the slogan “pseudo-comment” does not violate any moderation rules.
As a bishop friend one mine once told me “alas, stupidity is not a sin” :-)
I thinks San has a point, but his certainty is not mine.
I spent a very interesting 6 weeks rebuilding equipment following a landside in Korea at a major industrial manufacturers R & D facilities. We took our breaks with their people and had some fascinating conversations with some of their senior scientists and engineers. They were very well aware and quite open about the cultural differences in the area of abstract thinking, and original design and actively sought western minds to help overcome those shortcomings. They recognised their own brilliance at manufacturing repetitively and refining and rerefining processes for quality and efficiency. I worked throughout Asia and from my observations, Korea was not alone in having that characteristic.
While I understand the cultural nuance being referred too, I see that it is more than amply compensated for in China’s case by a very long and distinguished understanding of strategy and tactics derived from that seminal text, The Art of War. Add in an ability to focus on a task at a national and individual level, the enormity of resources the state is able to marshall at short notice, and the working relationship with Russia, which quite literally has Chinas back and I agree that they will be almost impossible to defeat by a West that is showing ever more signs that it has lost the plot.
The Chinese’ ‘distinguished’ understanding of strategy and tactics is derived from all the traditional literature, divided in four categories: I (jia 甲: Confucian Classics, jing 經), II (yi 乙: Masters and Philosophers, zi 子), III (bing 丙, Historiography, shi 史), and IV (ding 丁: Belles-lettres and Collections, ji 集). Also from the practice of the qínqíshūhuà (‘four arts of the Chinese scholar’): mastery of the qin (the guqin, a stringed instrument, 琴), qi (the strategy game of Go, 棋), shu (Chinese calligraphy, 書) and hua (Chinese painting, 畫).
Thank you for sharing your personal experience!
Kind regards
Interesting observations, I have experienced something similar in my 30 years of working in Asia and dealing with China, Korea and Japan. However, the basic research skills in the region have improved over time.
In the case of China there were concerted efforts to send students to study throughout the world and to encourage them to get work experience in foreign companies. My Chinese colleagues told me that when the need arose Chinese authorities would contact the former students and offer them high power roles in China. This is a factor in the US trying to reduce the number of Chinese students.
You may “truly think” that the world is flat. But what matters is not your belief but facts. I suggest you read up on China’ Space Program, on its world class engineering abilities, and the success of its students in the US in science, engineering, and mathematics. But perhaps you think successful space programs do not require “abstract thinking ability?”
An interesting area of comparison is China’s huge progress in medical science where Chinese research is rapidly overtaking the West.
That must be why the Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said “If we really want to slow down China’s rate of innovation, we need to work with Europe.”
That’s what is called a “gaffe”, which is when an official accidentally speaks the truth. China’s high rate of innovation is what is of concern.
As far as speculations are concerned that would have to be at the top of the list as one based on very much nothing!
Oh but it is very much based on something: ignorance, stupid and desperate flag-waving and, fundamentally racist delusions.
It ain’t much, but it is something, however ugly.
Cheers
San do you know Sun Tzu? He is the most ancient war strategist. He said ” A good general wins by not making war ” Compare that thinking to mid 18th century strategist Clausewitz. Yes in his time the Euros were successful since the communications were very poor. Now with the instant communications to different parts of the world the Euros don’t even have a prayer. Like Putin said.
do you know Sun Tzu?
Friend, this guys still thinks that the US will defeat China (or already has?!), and you want him to read Sun Tzu?
More like Fox news, at best :-)
I’ll come to the OP’s defense. There’s a lot of rote learning and China is still a conformist society. There could be some valid points here. Some.
this hinges on the advantages and disadvantages of collectivism (conformism).
I don’t think there is a black and white answer here, it all depends on specific circumstances.
I sure don’t disagree with you.
cheers
The U.S. is a very conformist society regardless of its constant self-identification with “rugged individualism”. It simply has a glossy veneer glued over top of a rather insipid culture with a very poor educational system in comparison to other so called “developed” countries.
The US not only has false notions about others but also about itself.
The “rugged individual” concept is one of them. It always struck me as strange that this was associated with the US West. A place where collaboration and community kept you alive and “rugged individualism” killed you very quickly. More likely this was what they liked to believe they are but clearly aren’t.
This is an absurd conversation and an anti-historical one at that. The many thousands of years of Chinese history and culture and innovation clearly show they are capable of creative and abstract thought. Non-human animals are capable of abstract thought, so to argue that China doesn’t have abstract thought is just racist. Not some woke-ism racist, like legit saying Chinese people aren’t capable of the same mental abilities as a crow.
As for conformity….ugh, where to begin with this? Not being socially disruptive is not the same as lacking innovation and original thought. Chinese are perfectly capable of developing disruptive technology. But Westerners these days tend to think of innovation and non-conformity as our “right” to invent new gender roles, to create social disharmony, our narcissistic self-indulgence over the benefit of our community…I mean none of this is innovative or creative.
As to the rote learning charge…how else would you presume to teach STEM subjects? You need to build a base of facts. Yes, in American schools we have developed a new, creative way to teach math—which is completely idiotic, counterintuitive and mostly discourages students from learning math. So why wouldn’t you just learn your times tables or periodic table of elements through rote memorization? This bias against rote learning just shows how much Western culture has internalized the “humanities” (they’re not even that anymore) over STEM. Our leaders, both politically and culturally, do not come from a STEM background, so they imagine the world is all about feelings. Meanwhile, literally every serious STEM student is out there solving problems, all of which require creativity. And they can be creative because they learned the facts by rote and have a working memory of facts and concepts on which to draw to solve problems.
So you can be creative in things which do not disrupt the social fabric. Men pretending to be androgynous and feminine isn’t being non-conformist, it is simply conforming to the West’s current ideas of masculinity. Agitating to overthrow your government to install a neoliberal, Western puppet regime isn’t creative or non-conformist. It is conforming to be subservient to the imperial power. I would be happy for someone who actually lives in China to chime in on this, but as far as I can tell you’re free to be creative and non-conformist where it leads to productive, socially valuable outcomes but you’re not free to be a jackass and overthrow the social order to feed your own narcissism.
Very well said indeed. It is truly astute when you summarized “Western culture has internalized the humanities over STEM”.
Post-modernism and its stable of “Gender Studies”, “Critical Race Theory” and the brisk trade in “Theories of Art” have pushed out common sense, reasoning, logic, and respect for facts in Western society. While the West can be justly proud of its achievements in science in seventeenth through twentieth centuries, science and critical thinking in western societies today are in a state of advanced decay. After exhausting itself in adventurous passages through the ‘Age of Enlightenment’, the West today is in an ‘Age of Decadence, Arrogance, and Ignorance’.
When people from the developing world look at the West for creative inspiration, they need to remind themselves that they are seeking something which ceased to almost a century ago. Look within or elsewhere if you seek true scientific creativity.
“China is still a conformist society”
True when it comes to many aspects of society. But perhaps not so true when it comes to ‘state craft’ and foreign policy. For its thousands of years existence, the Chinese value cold, hard realism, cunning, level headed decision making, in their leaders. You have a point, I agree, but only to a certain degree. Cheers!
The much vaunted ‘abstract thinking ability’ of the ‘West’ is in fact tunnel vision and exaggerated self-confidence. That reminds the characterization of Tolstoy of German self-confidence (actually of all the ‘West’) in War and Peace:
”Pfuel [Karl Ludwig von Phull, Prussian General in the service of Tsar Alexander I in 1812] was one of those hopelessly and immutably self-confident men, self-confident to the point of martyrdom as only Germans are, because only Germans are self-confident on the basis of an abstract notion- science, that is, the supposed knowledge of absolute truth…The German’s self-assurance is worst of all, stronger and more repulsive than any other, because he imagines that he knows the truth- science- which he himself has invented but which is for him the absolute truth. Pfuel was evidently of that sort. He had a science- the theory of oblique movements deduced by him from the history of Frederick the Great’s wars, and all he came across in the history of more recent warfare seemed to him absurd and barbarous- monstrous collisions in which so many blunders were committed by both sides that these wars could not be called wars, they did not accord with the theory, and therefore could not serve as material for science. In 1806 Pfuel had been one of those responsible for the plan of campaign that ended in Jena and Auerstadt, but he did not see the least proof of the fallibility of his theory in the disasters of that war. On the contrary, the deviations made from his theory were, in his opinion, the sole cause of the whole disaster, and with characteristically gleeful sarcasm he would remark, “There, I said the whole affair would go to the devil!” Pfuel was one of those theoreticians who so love their theory that they lose sight of the theory’s object- its practical application. His love of theory made him hate everything practical, and he would not listen to it. He was even pleased by failures, for failures resulting from deviations in practice from the theory only proved to him the accuracy of his theory”.
Chinese think ‘laterally’. And Russians for that matter. Asymmetrically!
Yes! All the dogmatic MSM insistence on “follow the science” is just a demonstration of their ignorance of what “science” really is. It is not dogmatism. You can only *prove* a tautology, as in mathematics. Logically, all other knowledge is probabilistic, possibly the best you have at the moment, but always open to correction. You can either disprove a thesis or fail to disprove it. The more you fail to disprove it, the more confidence you can have in it. But the possibility of a better hypothesis is always there, and needs to be considered, certainly not censored.
You clearly have not read (or perhaps even heard of) the Tao te Ching.
Try it. It might surprise you.
I would say; of the modern Anglo-Zionist thinking: Less abstract more Machiavellianism; [dictionary] “one of the traits of the Dark Triad, with narcissism and psychopathy”. Cunning and manipulative.
The West generally, in spite of its claims to the contrary, have strayed a long way from the ancient Greek creative dialectic thinking processes.
China has already defeated United states in Korea. That was when China was a third world nation. Imagine who badly it will go for Uncle Sam if he tries again.
I truly think that if this is a reference of abstract thinking vs concrete think then a primary example of abstract thinking is the consideration of the meaning of life and nature of consciousness. This shows itself in the sciences and cultural works, especially literary, such as poetry. There is an abstract cultural heritage of China that is simply not taught or understood in the West outside of specialist academics or individuals with a very deep love of a subject that causes them to stray into the area.
700 BC we may know some of the Ancient Greek poets depending on access to education and the teaching syllabus. Sure we have ‘The Poet’, Homer and his female counterpart ‘The Poetess’, Sappho. But what about Lady Mu Xu from the State of Wey. Interested Westerners are slowly learning about historical Chinese culture and the abstract thinking that flourished over almost 3,000 years.
For the Chinese this abstract thinking is not only known it is paid tribute to. China’s Interplanetary Exploration space missions is named Tianwen which translates to Heavenly Questions/Questions to Heaven. Heavenly Questions was a poem written by Qu Yuan, it posed questions to the Gods/mythological entities back around 200BC and is relatively unique in it only asks questions but posits no answers of any kind. Well that’s weird right, astrophysics and poetry, both viewed as key examples of abstract thinking coming together across 2300 years of history.
This is before we even move into the Tang Dynasty and some of the amazing abstract concepts explored by individuals who populated that era. Where Taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism had a very real interaction and interdevelopment with poetry of the period. Wasn’t just that though, the
Let’s not forget more recent works relevant to the topic at hand. The execution of the poet, teacher and scholar Wen Yudo. Wen Yudo was first published in the US while studying Literature in Chicago. He wanted to try and capture Pre-Modern China’s symbology and ethos in his work. After he began speaking out about the government of the day through his works, attempting to expose corruption and social injustices, he was assasinated by the KMT while attending the funeral of a friend. For those lost with so many acronyms in the world that would be the KMT who are currently the primary Opposition party Kuomintang in ROC. Same Kuomintang responsible for the 28th February incident and the following period of White Terror.
Not to labour the point but the cultures/groups of ‘abstract thinkers’ you offered as superior were not even really in existence let alone undertaking the process while it already was being practiced in the region of what is current day China.
Personally, I find offering an opinion or feeling as fact is neither an example of abstract thinking nor concrete thinking leaving it pretty much lying somewhere in the area of all the negative conotations found in the worst examples of Blue Sky Thinking.
China is amongt the oldest civilizations along with the persian, they have seen more wars than you could name.
They are so culturally ahead of us westerners, you cant even see it and its right in your face.
Terrible comment, shame on you!
What ignorant comment. Why do so many in the west seem to think China sprung up from nowhere in 1949, totally discarding China’s long and glorious history? The translated Chinese classics brought about the Age of Enlightenment in Europe which in turned kicked off the Industrial Enlightenment. Not to mentioned the impact of the 4 big Chinese inventions on developing civilizations around the world. I mean, China has teacups older than USA.
Jesus is the greatest example in history of how you can stand up for principles and ultimately win. This is the key to understanding what differentiates Western culture. Wokeism is the extermination of this key Western attribute. This levels the playing field for China.
USA is going down in strength pretty fast. I do not think that they will attack China any time soon, even it they plan for it. We have Izrael, on other hand, which is “brain” of US. It does not matter what plans US have, Izrael will use whatever is left of US strength to attack Iran before they are left 1 on 1 with Iran. I do not think that Izrael will let US waste its strength on China.
I am not sure that the US+therest will attack either.
But it sure looks to me that everybody in the region is preparing for that possibility.
As for Israel, that is becoming really interesting to observe:
a) they run the US like a colony
BUT
b) they fully realize that the US is finished
Which places them in a pickle (an Israeli specialty, metaphorically speaking)
This topic would deserve a real analysis, but I personally just don’t have the time for this, much to my regret.
Maybe somebody from the Middle-East would have the time and expertise to shed some light on this?
Your point b) is exactly what I am pointing out. If I were in Izrael’s feet, I would use whatever is left of US to attack Iran and weaken it for another decade. And dispose US as useless afterwards. This would give Izrael some time before they attach themselves to another strong “body”.
My guess is that Israel will try to work out a deal with Russia and even Iran (the latter might never be made public).
They are not all stupid, some Israelis “get it” for sure.
But, again, that is a topic for another day
Cheers
” …a topic for another day” ?
It better be soon , otherwise your article will be “in hindsight”.
I agree with your guess!
Regards
There is at least a precedent of that, at least according to this:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article199332.html
The US’s own assessment is that if they do not cut China down to size by 2025 it is over for the US as a global hegemon.
So,yes, any war will be sooner rather than later.
But it is already over for the US as a global hegemon. They hope to gain something – at least time – from pretending that they still are and threatening like a hegemon. But a real powerful hegemon does not need to publicly threaten adversaries. In most cases silent hints are sufficient.
Looking back at the period from roughly 1980 to 2010 I do not remember the USA going around with threats of war. They just acted against weak enough nations like Iraq. Against stronger nations which pose too many risks in open war they more and more use terrorists.
From 1943 on the Nazis also only played for time and sacrificed millions just for the extension of their rule for a few more years. In principle we see the same in today’s USA and UK.
Dear Andrei, some thoughts/questions for your response, thanks in advance!
1. Is it not possible that the Anglos are simply trying to make life hard for China rather than start a war (that they must know will be a disaster)?
2. The recent AUKUS alliance, whose immediate purpose can only be an American submarine base in Australia, has the objective of harming China’s supply lines and disrupting its trade by perpetual threats of a blockade. That damages China’s economic partnerships and trading arrangements because it ‘scares away’ other countries from doing business with China, more so when America can also threaten economic sanctions, block IMF loans, and commit other economic and political gangsterism on countries that try to get too close to China. What are your thoughts on this and how successful do you think the American mischief can be?
3. In any case, this ‘tightening of the screws’ against China does have the potential of forcing China to spend more on defense than it can afford, while the Anglos only incur the minimal costs of issuing and creating threats. A Satanic strategy, I fear. Your thoughts on this please?
okay, my best guesstimate attempts to answerl
1) possible, of course, but that STILL means that they can stupidly “waltz-in” into a very real war
2) meh – I think that this is a sincere attempt at re-gaining at least *some* control of the planet, I am pretty sure that it will fail like all US policies have been for years now
3) no, because spending on defense REAL *DEFENSE* is much, much cheaper than spending on imperialist wars. Also, the PRC executes its worst corruptioneers, the US promotes them (Russia is in the middle probably).
I also think that the AUKUS has a second role, to show the countries of the region that, yes, we did get our assess kicked by pretty much everyone, we can still offer some real instruments of power. It is as much a PR exercise as it is a force planning decision. The “spokespersons” at the Department of State would call that “reassuring our allies that America is committed to her obligations” or some verbal vomit to the same effect.
Does that answer adequately reply to your questions?
Maybe other can chime in, especially those readers who are in Far East/Pacific area?
Thanks for your detailed response! All I can say how low and evil can the human species sink when it actively plans and wishes for poverty, difficulties, and death for others. Looks like the Anglos would prefer to have the rest of humanity live in poverty, humiliation and hopelessness. Thank God, they may not be able to quite make that happen.
Would Indonesia sit back and watch Australia acquire Nuke Subs and be quiet. What of Singapore on this issue.
Thanks.
The Aussies subs are not really a threat to Indonesia, as much as they might dislike the Aussies, I don’t see the latter waging a war, or even a serious attack on Indonesia for many reasons (too long to list here).
But that is my guess, I might be missing something crucial here.
Again, I hope some “local” commentator might shed some light on that.
Cheers
Well, the nuclear subs are not meant for Indonesia for now but they could be used to target Indonesia in the future should the Aussies decide to do so. After all, the fear of “being swamped by Asians”, be they Japanese, Chinese or, closer to home, Indonesians, is deeply entrenched in the Australian psyche. Australians hate/fear Asians, and Indonesia knows it. But that is beside the point. The fact is, the mere possession of the nuclear subs by Australia changes the military-strategic balance in the region and Indonesia is right to be concerned.
Indonesian here. Threat of overt interventions by Australian or even NATO forces is very real here in particular for now in the West Papua region where they backed tribal ‘christian’ militants .Incidentally they also backed Islamist separatists half successfully in Aceh if we’re to forget their successful attempt in breaking away Timor Lester from Indonesia. Reading news of Papuans in Australian media is like reading fairy tales. They try to superimpose the US/Apartheid like treatments of dark skinned people to Indonesian Papuans which is very laughable since we’re both dark skinned and is both victims of western Whiteman colonialism.
They’re really disgusting unprincipled peoples.
They will now. Australia signed a deal to ship power to Singapore via undersea cables, landing in between in E Timor. Price. ~$3B USD. That will quiet them.
This power supply project is scheduled for completion some time in 2027. That’s quite a few years from now. Nothing has actually been built to date and much can change during those years. Just like what happened with NS2. In fact I’m not sure that, post AUKUS, any Indonesian government would want to place a significant chunk of its energy supply under the control of a country that thinks it’s the “deputy sheriff” of the region.
Japan is involved in this too, and while the overwhelming majority of its citizens are pacifist, the leadership is not. An attempt was made several years ago under the Abe administration to revise Japan’s constitution so as to allow Japan to engage in non-defensive military action abroad. That was defeated along with an attempt to abrogate individual rights for the “collective good.” Japan nonetheless wound up with a State Secrecy Act that has rendered the press completely subservient to unstated official dictates (I think that is one reason the press conference held by the director of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association promoting Ivermectin never reached the public, and that has got to be the tip of a very big iceberg). It has been said among anti-nuclear activists in Japan that the reason Japan continues to pursue nuclear power is not that it is economical (there is some controversy over this, but it is a subsidy dumpster in general), but that it gives them a fresh stock of plutonium at all times, and they have rationalized their huge stockpile of it through a highly dysfunctional mostly unoperational fuel recycling program.
In addition, Sinophobic sentiments are prominent here (my Japanese relatives make Fox News watchers look like card-carrying CCP), and those friends of mine who are not Sinophobic are very pro-US and trusting of the western media. Thus a lot of groundwork has been accomplished toward bringing Japan into willing confrontation with China. So it is possible for a major false flag to bring Japan into military action, IMHO. I can only pray that saner minds will prevail.
Patricia, thanks for this feedback about Japan.
I agree, I saw this recently regarding large training by Japanese land forces, first in decades:
https://www.jafriqradioonline.com/japans-gsdf-begins-nationwide-drills-for-first-time-since-cold-war/
They are continuing these exercises for at least another 5 weeks.
it is crazy how many areas worldwide are now being activated- Iran/Azerbaijan, France/Algeria, Brazil military movements, Serbia/Kosovo, too many to count. And this Pandoras Box op calculated to increase the chaos, targeting many key middle eastern/ Ukrainian oligarchs.
If el Presidente Hugo Chavez (RIP) was still with us he would be saying I smell the sulfur in the air!
Guest
I am not sure that the Australians at any rare actually realise war would be a disaster. We have a defence minister who is aggressive and stupid and i think like some people with a slight strain of Chinese ancestry (several generations back) compensates by extreme hostility.
We also spawned Rupert Murdoch who controls all our media. Now for him it is personal- he seems to think his former wife was a Chinese spy. Perhaps she was, but it has made it visceral and personal fo him.
Most Australians have felt that we were a long way from any war and really are not worried. Trouble is we are totally dependent on imports for manufactured goods and oil. Most Australians have no concept of just what a naval war would mean- because while Chinese supply lines would be choked so too would Australian ones. Without oil we be in trouble. We have very long distances to move goods around – heavily oil dependent and our railways (for goods) are scarce and diesel.
Recent reports of US plans to set up a submarine base in Perth are interesting because if there is one part of Australia least likely to want war with China it is WA, which is heavily dependent on iron ore exports and doesn’t like the East Çoast much anyway.
Thanks for pointing out some Australian realities. Yes, I fear the Australians may be sleepwalking into BIG troubles ,and then will the US be there to hold their hands?
will the US be there to hold their hands?
Maybe we can ask Zelensky?
What are you talking about? He came to US and got a whopping $18 Milllion handout. If his country lost out say few Billion $ in transit fees that is what a good soldier does, take it on the chin
Like they held the hands of their puppets in other countries?
I sure would NOT count on that.
Anglo solidarity only goes that far, really,.
Human factor
There are 1,421,000 Chinese.
There are 331.000 US citizens.
An average Chinese is thin, well educated and hardworking.
An average US citizen is fat, not educated and lazy.
Chinese cousine is ready to bake and serve those meaty assets for one hell of a dinner! I will be consuming only vegetables anyways, but my belgian s. is delighted to find more meat in imported dog food.
Bon apetit!
I’m an Aussie of English origin. My view is that the general population of Australia has no problem with China. If there is a perception of a problem it is with the current ruling class, particularly Morrison, but that can change very quickly and likely will at the election next year. Australian business is pushing back on the Government’s harsh anti-China rhetoric. In fact, Australia has a much longer history of dealing with the Chinese than the Americans. And there is a big Chinese first or second generation population in Australia, unlike any similar American presence. Put simply, China is by far and away our biggest trading partner, and will continue to be so – unless we really piss them off. Our (elevated) standard of living depends on China not the US.
As for Australian military capabilities in any conflict in the Pacific, my view is that they are vastly over-rated. Not that individual soldiers are not fit, able and brave – but they are simply too few. We already have problems crewing and getting the Collin’s class subs to sea, never mind any more. We have no air defences whatsoever, or strategic missile capability. We rely on the useless F35 – which for a country the size of Australia makes no sense whatsoever. We need Mig31s. The indigenous military industrial complex does not exist in any serious form. We have relied on an alliance with the US since WW2 because, frankly, we were deserted by the UK, and are too small to survive on our own – we need a big mate. But that doesn’t mean we are hankering for a fight – the US may learn that lesson soon.
Totally agree with that analysis.
Having watched the adulation following Xi’s visit to Tasmania turn into loathing led by the Murdock press and the Liberal US stooge politicians I have no doubt the average Aussie sheep would turn back to comfortable acceptance of China in a heart beat if the media said it was ok.
Eagle eye: thank you for your reply The average Aussie, whilst liking his/her beer and footie, is no sheep. We know on which side our bread is buttered. It is true, however, that our media is a problem, but that can change quicker than I change my socks.
> that our media is a problem
no points for guessing who owns your media. slowly govt is also taken over by the AZ crew. Bottom up. the take over will be complete in the 5-10 yrs. like the US. this is nothing more than applying the same formula.
CD
I would love to believe what you say but sadly I think the anti Chinese rhetoric and sentiment is very strong and growing. I am basing this on friends who normally i see as decent and progressive, but they hate China.
Just 10 minutes ago on the ABC they were talking up war with China over Taiwan – saying they want peace but meaning they plan war.
We have had three former Prim ministers coming out against the recent submarine folly, but i still think public sentiment is with the government.
Not so sure about that. Their performance over the last 18 month or so in response to pointless .gov edicts suggests they are eminently able to be moved at will by issuing suitable commands.
We need Mig31s
Very interesting and original thought (at least I have not seen that), but you are totally correct. Considering the size of the huge Australian land mass and the huge expanses around it, even one squadron of MiG-31BMs would be pretty much all the air defenses Australia would need.
Okay, these are complex aircraft and are designed to be part of a very complex and integrated system, but so I would say MiG-31-like, but I know what you mean and I totally agree.
As for the F35, its just a financial scam which made some people very rich. As a combat aircraft it is almost useless (except in some rather contrived scenarios), although some of its worst non-design features can probably be fixed with time and even more money.
But in the real world, even the F-15X is a better option (hopefully).
@cdvision,
I disagree. White Australians have always had a problem with China and it’s part of their broader, more generalised fear and hatred of Asians. One just has to look at the fear-mongering about Chinese investment in Australia’s real estate and agricultural land to get an idea of the anti-Chinese sentiment in Australia, and this was happening well before the government decided to turn up the anti-China propaganda to stir up support for a possible war with China.
Yes, Aussies know which side their bread is buttered and they know that their economic livelihood is dependent on China, but given the choice between the US and China there is no question that Aussies will choose the former every time. The “debate” that used to go on about who Australia should side with and trying to stay neutral was just for show so as not to appear outright racist.
Agree.
A third the Aust population have no problem with China and the other 2/3rds do.
That is function of age, race, left or right political views etc…
Couldn’t agree more with PRC being in the 3 Anglos’ crosshairs Andrei.
China has developed a very interesting layered maritime defence force and a doctrine that has two parts: ‘Near Seas Defence’ and ‘Far Seas Protection.’ In effect I think they’ve adopted and adapted the ‘Island Chains’ concept first articulated by the Americans. The maritime defence force(s) consist of not just the PLAN, but also the People’s Police (Coast Guard) and Maritime Militia, trained personnel who sail with PRC’s large fishing fleets. Examples of the militia — with PRC CG escorts — in action would be the ‘swarming’ of fishing vessels around a Philippine outpost near Palawan Island, and near Indonesia’s (not a claimant in the SCS ‘islands’ dispute) Natuna Island.
The following is an earlier comment regarding AUKUS which got lost in the system. No worries, I resubmit it (suitably modified and shortened, of course) here:
Aus has no expertise in building nuclear subs — they don’t even have the expertise to build large conventional subs like the Barracuda, hence the French contract — and skilled manpower have to come from US (and perhaps UK) yards thereby diluting the number required to build their own subs.
Many analyses of AUKUS focus only on it and don’t take account of what China (and Russia) can do in response; after all war is a duel with neither party staying still.
It all boils down to ship-building capacity of which PRC are world champs — if it puts its mind to it, I’ll bet China can put eight nuclear boats in the water in half the time it takes the 3 Anglos to deliver their submarines. PRC subs may be technically inferior to US/UK subs but for sea denial, they’ll do the job. PRC’s artificial islands in the SCS or ‘First Island Chain’ can support both conventional and nuclear subs, and anti-submarine aircraft.
The Vietnamese FM has just visited RF. Vietnam operates Russian-made submarines. Now, what if RF were to station its submarines in Cam Ranh Bay, say for training purposes? In view of the present RF-PRC relationship, I don’t think PRC will object. In fact I think PRC may even let RF navy use its facilities on the artificial islands for logistical support, and not just for conventional subs.
I don’t understand the hoopla surrounding Tomahawks, AI and other technologies related to the subs. If the US had wanted to provide Aus with those weapons and technologies, they would have provided them anyway, and without much fanfare. The only reason I can think of is that the hoopla is mainly for the Australian public’s consumption, who will end up paying through the nose for the subs, — and the way it looks like playing out with Aus playing second fiddle to US — in effect subsidising a flotilla of American subs.
Empire think-tanker but still useful:
https://maritime-executive.com/editorials/a-guide-to-china-s-unprecedented-naval-shipbuilding-drive
Agree with you.
One point….the “build the subs” in Australia is a hold over from a piece of political nonsense that extends decades back and the horse trading lost in mists of time.
Somehow every other detail of the subs deal has changed multiple times, except the “build in Australia”.
Of course nuclear subs cannot be built in Adelaide.
Australia will end up with a US naval port in Perth.
A massive US base is under construction in north west Western Australia.
And of course Pine Gap.
Australians discovered in PM Gough Whitlam’s day (1970s) the USA considered this US territory…. denying Gough access.
Yea, White Whale, shipbuilding (including subs) is mired in internal politics in Australia, with each generation of politicians desperate to save 5000 jobs — highly skilled ones to be sure — in South Australia ever since the Collins-class days.
To be honest, with my ‘neutral’ hat on ie just looking at Australia’s needs per se, I reckon Australia, with its long coastline, is better served by nuclear subs rather than conventional ones. But of course the fall-out from non-nuclear power Aus procuring nuclear boats was bound to be bad and at any rate nuclear subs don’t solve all of Australia’s defence problems; perhaps this was the basis for the initial decision (and its robust defence by Aus Navy) on getting conventional Barracuda subs. I read Hugh White quite a bit and he’s made a strong case for an even larger (> 20 iirc) — albeit conventional — submarine fleet, and a correspondingly smaller surface fleet; looking at the hypersonic anti-ship weapons coming online from RF and PRC, that makes a lot of sense to me. White is non-commital on the nuclear boats but he does fret that with AUKUS, Australia will be expected to do more for the US including things that are not in Australia’s interest, in effect becoming hostage to the US’s machinations in the Asia Pacific.
This is echoed in Caitlin Johnstone’s article, who put it even stronger: “Australia is not aligned with the US to protect itself from China. Australia is aligned with the US to protect itself from the US.”
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/504263-caitlin-johnstone-america-allies/
This (light-hearted) look at Australia’s defence policy ties in well with Johnstone’s assessment:
https://youtu.be/MTCqXlDjx18
@Stand Easy
That video just about sums up the absurdity of it all.
(Zero Sum) USA – “Do as we say or we’ll bomb you back into the stone age.”
(Win-Win) China – “Can we build you a high speed railway? Do you need any vaccines?”
naah, naat gaanna do it.
we, in the west, are in the process of becoming china, so whats the point?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/taiwan-preparing-for-war-with-china/100511294
Taiwanese Foreign Minister warns his country is preparing for war with China, asks Australia for help
Taiwan’s Foreign Minister warns his nation is preparing for war with China and urges Australia to increase intelligence sharing and security cooperation as Beijing intensifies a campaign of military intimidation.
WW: What “intelligence” would that be?
The “intelligence” courtesy of AUKUS?
The minister from Taiwan’s ruling Democratic Progressive Party believes other like-minded countries such as Australia should now come to the aid of his besieged nation by developing closer ties.
“We would like to engage in security or intelligence exchanges with other like-minded partners, Australia included, so Taiwan is better prepared to deal with the war situation.
“And so far, our relations with Australia [are] very good and that is what we appreciate”, Mr Wu added.
Australia does not formally recognise Taiwan diplomatically, but the federal government regularly calls for a “peaceful resolution” of differences between China and the small independent nationthrough dialogue and without the threat or use of force or coercion.
A communique issued after last month’s AUSMIN meetings between Australia and the United States declared that “both sides stated their intent to strengthen ties with Taiwan, which is a leading democracy and a critical partner for both countries”.
WW: Taiwan is a “critical partner” for Australia?
Heh. And here was I, thinking China was the major trading partner, a relationship yielding prosperity for Australia for the past 30 years.
I have no doubt, that the CCP will not try to attempt a landing on Taiwan.
But if they do, and get close to success, what the US will strike will be the installations of the Taiwan Semiconductor corp.
but no, they(mainland) do not work like that.
I am puzzled, “strike the installations of Taiwan Semiconductor Corp”. Since USA cannot produce whatever is produced by Taiwan Semiconductor Corp, where are they, USA, going to find microelectronic components they need for everything? Already MSM in North America is reporting stoppages or reductions in factories producing cars, due to shortage of chips. I don’t think they lie about this.
Maybe they want to deny China use of Taiwan Semiconductor Corp? China can produce those components herself, if not at the moment, then soon. USA cannot produce them, nor can NATO countries. But who knows, it would not be the first time USA cuts the branch they are sitting on.
For America and its vassals, Taiwan is just like Ukraine.
Similar to Ukraine, Taiwan is an ethnic statelet, whose very identity is based on Negative Nationalism in which it defines itself against a larger civilization, which it is connected to but virulently hostile towards. In the case of both Taiwan and Ukraine, this hostility is largely based on delusions that they honorary members of the America-dominated “Free World” and are thus superior to their hated Chinese/Russian enemies.
Moreover, America and its stooges seek to use Taiwan (and Ukraine) as a geopolitical tool to provoke or bait China (and Russia) with.
As has been evidenced for the past several years, the Americans fomented a conflict in Ukraine in order to bait Russia into invading there–with the hope of weakening Russia as a result.
The Americans are playing a very similar “Stoke and Provoke” game with respect to China by utilizing their Taiwan tool.
Furthermore, both Taiwan (and Ukraine) are heavily pimped as pro-Western “democracies” by the globalist Free Press in order to disguise the reality that they are both American proxy client states, whose very existence are that of geopolitical weapons against China (and Russia)
Indeed, both Taiwan (and Ukraine) can be used as imperial cannon fodder against China (and Russia) in any potential war, as Americans will courageously fight China (and Russia) to the last Taiwanese (and Ukrainian).
In short, Taiwan=Ukraine in Asia
I think you are looking at this the wrong way mr anon.
consider this:
Taiwan IS what china could have been if not for the murdering, past erasing brainwashing, absolute lunatics of the lost generation of the maoist genocide. That generation has thrown away every cultural, economical, traditional aspect of what chinese society has collected throughout the centuries – the good along with the bad.
hell, they even changed their language(sort of)
Taiwan is the real carrier of the ancient traditions of the Chinese civilization.
I am not a big fan of democracies – I would fight for a republic, but as far as democracies go, I think Taiwan might be one of the few actually functioning ones.
I absolutely admire Taiwan. I actually would volunteer to defend her. No joke.
In any measurable metric, that little island is head and shoulders above almost the whole rest of the planet – among those incidentally: covid response and the resulting mortality.
If you wish to further discuss the issue, please let me know, and I will provide you with ample proof to back up my claim.
thanx for the consideration.
“I am not a big fan of democracies – I would fight for a republic, but as far as democracies go, I think Taiwan might be one of the few actually functioning ones.”
You just outed yourself to be absolutely clueless about the quasi fascist state of Taiwan’s fabulous democracy.
watch this and then tell me if you still believe in Taiwan’s functioning democrcy https://youtu.be/Qqn11upH694
I absolutely admire Taiwan. I actually would volunteer to defend her. No joke.
In any measurable metric, that little island is head and shoulders above almost the whole rest of the planet – among those incidentally: covid response and the resulting mortality.
Taiwan is an entity designed for one purpose: American cannon fodder to be used and discarded at the appropriate time when the USA wants to provoke a war against China.
As General Douglas MacArthur once boasted, Taiwan is America’s “Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier” in the South China Sea.
The Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier
https://taiwantoday.tw/news.php?unit=4,29,31,45&post=4186
If you want to volunteer to be part of this cannon fodder, go right ahead and see what happens.
BTW, the current DPP regime of Taiwan rose to power off the backs of something called the Sunflower Revolution™, which was yet another Color Revolution/Regime Change operation that the USA propagandized and promoted several years ago to put into power a Taiwan regime that would more compliantly serve America’s anti-China machinations.
Such is the true character of Taiwan’s vaunted “vibrant democracy.”
condollini says: “Taiwan is the real carrier of the ancient traditions of the Chinese civilization.”
DPP has been trying to destroy the Chinese connection, uprooting Taiwanese history, and brainwashing the people that they are not Chinese. And yet you claim they are the “real” carrier of the ancient traditions. This proves that you know neither about Taiwan nor China.
condollini says: “Taiwan might be one of the few actually functioning ones.”
People who claims Taiwan is a model of functioning democracy know nothing about Taiwanese politics. You don’t know how much fighting, literally physical fighting, among Taiwanese politicians. You don’t know how corrupted Taiwanese politicians are. You don’t know how much connection Taiwanese politicians has with the mafia and gangsters. You don’t know how badly Taiwanese government colluded with foreign powers (US, Japan) to hurt the Taiwanese interests and Chinese interests. You don’t know how much Taiwanese politics is kidnapped and influenced by NGOs, CIA, … And I can continue writing for another 2 hours.
condollini says: “I actually would volunteer to defend her. ”
That will makes you the enemy of the Chinese people. Don’t pretend you are doing the Chinese or even the Taiwanese people a favor. No, you don’t. You are carrying out and continuing the imperial foreigner powers agenda (first the Imperial Japan, and then currently the US) to divide China, and fanning the internal fighting.
condollini says: “I will provide you with ample proof to back up my claim.”
No, you don’t have “proof”, you only have your own imagination, ideology and projection of your culture/belief on Chinese. You are busy-body about a country halfway around the Earth, on a people whose reality and history you know little about. You should learn from centuries of painful lessons how foreigners interfere with peoples that you don’t fully understand – in Middle East, in Africa, in Asia,… You should come down from your moral high horse and stop pretending you know better than the 1.4 billion people about their own internal affair and how they can and should settle their own civil war from the 1949.
yeah…that is about it in a sentence: a billion and a half people can not leave a little island nation alone…cos…reasons.
but they are nice and they only doing it for the benefit of the Taiwanese Nation.
👍
condollini says: “a billion and a half people can not leave a little island nation alone… reasons”
Taiwan is not a “nation”. If you need explanation, then you know nothing about the history. You know nothing about China nor Taiwan.
condollini says: “but they are nice and they only doing it for the benefit of the Taiwanese Nation.”
Seeing how PRC handles the anti-poverty in many parts of the mainland, I happen to believe that Beijing will do better job in governing the Taiwan. Also, don’t pretend you know better than them about what form of government is best for them.
could you please, provide me with a metric, by wich the average taiwanese would be better off under chinese rule?
just one.
thanxxx…
condollini says: “could you please, provide me with a metric, by wich the average taiwanese would be better off under chinese rule?”
I can provide 10 metrics. But just to use one factor you mentioned in your previous post, Covid-19 mortality:
China: Case per million: 67, Death per million: 3 (see row 112 on the table)
Taiwan: Case per million: 681, Death per million: 35 (see row 156 on the table)
By both metrics, Taiwan is more than 10x worse than China.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
“Taiwan IS what china could have been if not for the murdering, past erasing brainwashing, absolute lunatics of the lost generation of the maoist genocide.”
You conveniently ignored the massacres that the corrupt Guomindang committed against political opponents and its aboriginal population and the 38 years of martial law known as the White Terror following their takeover. Seeing how the modern PRC turned out vs TW my family in the mainland are grateful for the CPC.
US tried the ‘stoke and provoke’ strategy with HK too, but checkmate by China with NSL, a move straight out of the The Art of War.
Thanks for plugging Moon of Alabama where I comment as karlof1. Over the past two years I’ve written several articles about China and the emerging Eurasian Bloc and published them at my VK Space. Written two years ago, “China’s System is the Winner” is a compilation of MoA comments and additional info on that topic and a good place to begin. “The Rise of the Eurasian Bloc” I wrote on the day of the infamous “riot” in DC on 6 January and looks at what’s ongoing there. My next effort “CSTO & SCO Summits are Over; Time for UNGA Debates looks at those developments. And just last week after China announced its having produced a White Paper on the subject, “China Declares Itself a Moderately Prosperous Society: What Does That Mean For the World?”, wherein I declared:
“China’s biggest gift to the world with its accomplishment is showing the superiority of its development model which in its substance differs little from that followed by the United States and Germany during the 19th Century and completely rubbishes the Neoliberal debt-driven model that was actually a Western tool used to inhibit development and chain nations to development loans that could never be repaid.”
China has published in English an extensive number of White Papers which can be found in this archive which provides a trove of primary source information historians like me crave. I also am a student of Glenn Diesen, Valdai Club presenter, RT contributor, and author of many excellent books, “Russia’s Geoeconomic Strategy for a Greater Eurasia” being a must read; his latest is “Europe as the Western Peninsula of Greater Eurasia” and a synopsis written by Diesen can be read here; and what I consider a masterwork, “Russian Conservatism: Managing Change under Permanent Revolution,” provides essential insight into Putin’s Political Economy, which is the subject of another of my essays.
A year ago, I wrote a two-part essay about China’s future plans for a Win-Win World, and nothing since has occurred to contradict what I wrote. One fact I do try to remind readers about is who developed and proposed the development projects now known as the BRI and EAEU–Kazakhstan president Nursultan Nazarbaev back in 2012. And IMO that’s a very important fact since it illustrates Eurasian development goes well beyond just Russia and China and now stretches westward to Egypt. I recently commented–Yamamoto knew Japan’s war with the USA was lost prior to the launch of his attack aircraft, and similarly the Outlaw US Empire has already lost to the Eurasian Bloc as it no longer has the means to compete. Oh sure, it can launch its nukes and kiss itself goodbye, but that’s not winning.
Welcome OH
I read your comments at MoA, but I don’t comment there.
Re the One Belt One Road…now BRI…
“Success has many fathers,..failure is an orphan“.
In 2009, 2010 2011, as part of Obama’s “Pivot to Asia” the Australian navy enthusiastically joined the US for war “games”.
The “game” was the “choke China” scenario through the Malacca Straits.
At that time some (don’t have the exact figure) but say 80% or more Chinese merchant shipping went this route.
China took great interest in these war “games”, noted the vulnerability, and took action ….. and an embryonic One Belt One Road initiative started to take shape.
Remember Putin had also earlier proposed a Lisbon to Vladivostok open trade zone in about 2007/8, I think.
That was before Maiden and the Ukraine “Cookies” Nuland coup.
It would seem that the US moves to establish naval and military bases in Western Australia means they are still hoping to “choke China” in the sea lanes.
They’ve “missed the boat”…… the cool kids have moved on, and overland through Eurasia and the Heartland is where the action will be this century.
The response of China to the maritime ‘choke China’ is precisely the prioritizing of land transportation across ‘Eurasia’, which was the nightmare of MacKinder.
The Berlin to Baghdad railway was one of the factors that led to the First World War. Britain as a maritime power needed to maintain its chokehold on sea lanes and the use of blockade as an economic weapon. The U.S projects its power by its navy and if a larger proportion of the world’s trade with China suddenly starts to shift to overland high-speed transport, then that advantage is nullified. This is already happening. Freight trains run from Stratford in East London through to Shenzen province on a daily basis and transit times are 7-10 days assuming a container freight train averaging 50-60 mph and stopping only for examinations, locomotive and crew changes. This has already been going on for nearly 10 years and volumes have vastly increased since the start of lockdowns and covidism. Line and train handling capacity has already been upgraded across Russia and into Europe so the front line troops in the next war will actually be train drivers, who are in the process of rendering naval blockades impotent….
Dear Outlaw Historian,
3 weeks ago, your comments struck a deep cord with me, and I appreciated them.
I had a degree in History before entering medical school and love to follow patterns like you.
Please see my attached notes below, based on your earlier comments.
Your final words which I quote, is ever more relevant now, and the basis of Saker’s current China sit-rep.
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Outlaw Historian had two excellent comments:
▪︎ /the-vocabulary-of-neoliberal-diplomacy-in-todays-new-cold-war/#comment-973599
▪︎ /the-vocabulary-of-neoliberal-diplomacy-in-todays-new-cold-war/#comment-973596
There were similar threads in my mind.
I see the same underlying corruption in medical field which Hudson described for political economy.
The root cause is the same: the bastardization of language, where different words and concepts mean different things to the few vs their global targets.
And “The liberal mass media, academia, and “think tank” lobbying institutions, policy foundations and NGOs sponsor the above-described rhetoric…” 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆.
And it is done across all liberal layers – maybe reflexively initially, per training, but willfully at some point.
When language is so abused, no one knows where they stand.
‘War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.’
Truth is turned on its head.
Maybe this is what Orwell and his generation were trying to explain to us – not merely a dystopia to come, but that the corruption of language had already become established by WW2!
Remember Bernays and his ilk has been at work for a couple of generations by then.
For example, it took me years to appreciate why my medical school supervisors (nearly 25 years ago) did not trust the WHO and called it “a political animal.”
Or why starting about a decade ago, the US generalist physicians starting ignoring the upcoming catastrophic DSM-5 of the psychiatrists, where most transient or spiritual or even imaginary conditions could be considered a pathology requiring prescription.
It was becoming dangerous to be human and then see a western allopath!
So the 𝙛𝙖𝙞𝙡𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙞𝙣𝙗𝙪𝙞𝙡𝙩 𝙙𝙪𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙤𝙛 𝙨𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙢𝙨, 𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙡𝙙𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙛𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨, similar to best-by date on consumables.
You build something up, to anticipate when it will come crashing down, and profit both ways.
Like you, I do not consider ongoing behavior of western psychopaths to be a coincidence or mere incompetence or stupidity.
There are those who planned to ditch this host at the convenient time, and ensured its [coming] implosion, after they wrung the dirty work out of them.
Key to this is language and the regimentation of professions.
Everything has become so complex, that, for example, most doctors nowadays do not know much outside of their narrow specialty (or subspecialty), and the same with law, and so on. Some of it is organic, as knowledge increases and professionalism develops, but it is also convenient cover to force everyone to focus on the square meter around their feet and leave everything else to “the concerned experts of that other field.”
And thus, those who in earlier times were among stewards and defenders of their communities no longer function as such.
And who watches the watchers of the entire system?
Reading Hudson makes it clear they are a black hole of malignancy and frankly demonic, with no good will to any.
The last complicit useful idiot neoliberal will say the famous words of Father Martin Niemöller when his turn comes.
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Other indications of the spiritual warfare:
(1) There was this interesting presentation by Legarde in 2014 (the magic 7):
https://youtu.be/ZUXTzVj5-uE?t=383
From the linked start-point (at 6 min 23 sec), just watch the first 3-4 minutes until you hear genie/augur.
Gematriaists have had a field day deciphering this creature’s numerology, so I will not get into it.
As they appear to follow (mocking really) Biblical timeline as in the story of Joseph in Egypt, of 7 good years followed by 7 evil times, thus we have arrived in 2021.
And voila, hell is being unleashed since the Biden regime entered office.
(2) war on food supply
▪︎ Interesting to note, since Spring 2020, the food supply chains and agricultural resilience were steadily degraded in USA/EU and many countries, including China. Shocking stories of farms in USA now being paid NOT to grow! –> ensuring the 7 lean years of starvation.
▪︎ California crazily emptying essential water reservoir dams –> ensuring the 7 lean years of starvation.
▪︎ HAARP/weather warfare much increased – unusual floods in Germany/China, and record-breaking heat waves in W/NW USA and much of world –> droughts and reduced bread baskets
I could go on.
Lastly,
(3) war is a time-tested choice at significant change points in western global systems.
▪︎ Globalists have made clear of their intent to switch from USD to a digital replacement (CBDCs).
▪︎ Yellen warned the US could default in October 2021.
▪︎ USA’s biggest creditor is China.
And as you, Outlaw, succinctly put it, “𝘼 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙨𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙪𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙜𝙧𝙤𝙬𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙊𝙪𝙩𝙡𝙖𝙬 𝙐𝙎 𝙀𝙢𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙚 𝙖𝙞𝙢𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙚𝙭𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙞𝙩𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙛 𝙛𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙞𝙩𝙨 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙡𝙚𝙢𝙢𝙖 𝙗𝙮 𝙬𝙖𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙬𝙖𝙧 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝘾𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙖.”
Thanks for your reply! I enjoyed a twenty year career before formally returning to college and see History as encompassing many other sub-topics that were once considered part of the study of history and wrote about how this reductionism blurred the historian’s quest for objectivity where one must be capable of moving from the Big Picture to microcosms and back again seemlessly throughout an explanatory narrative. As such, historians must be competent within the gamut of sciences and literature which demand being a student well beyond the expansive scope of history if one is to be comfortable. Essentially, historians cannot afford to wear blinders. For example, to understand how propaganda works and how biases are passed down generationally, it’s important to know how we learn via cognitive psychology. I was fortunate to have professors who emphasized multidisciplined learning methods that challenged one to look at an issue from differing perspectives prior to jerking your knee, which makes it easier to see the Narrative for what it is and ways to negate it.
@OH
Can you kindly provide a link to your essay on China?
I’ve written several essays on China for publication at my VK Space. I provided a few in my initial comment above, although I didn’t link my first two, “A Look at China’s Future Plans for a Win-Win World, which is the first of two parts. I highly suggest the following articles the first by one of China’s top scholars, Zhang Weiwei, “How China Elects Their Political Leaders”; these two essays by Pepe Escobar, “Will Confucius Marry Marx” and “Shedding Light on the Limits of Chinese Power”. Escobar constantly reviews contemporary books relevant to China and the other topics he examines, so I engage with him via VK and his many essays, many of which get published outside his long time home Asia Times.
Saker,
Does the strategy of China bringing on the conflict by invading Taiwan have any merit? I ask this because it seems to me that this has the advantage of forcing the conflict on an opponent who has long supply lines, is not well organised as demonstrated by its departure from Afghanistan, lacks a counter to hypersonic missiles, and is politically distracted and divided at home. Avoiding conflict gives time for the opponent to rectifiy those weaknesses. Forcing conflict and achieving victory would put an end to the opponents war mongering nutbaggery and probably accelerate the internal conflict in the US.
China certainly seems to be increasing it’s pressure on Taiwan with larger numbers of flights into Taiwanese airspace with ever more aircraft over the last month or two
I get the Russian and Chinese strategy of waiting for the USA to collapse from its internal contradictions and conflicts, but those could take some time to play out, and in the meantime the risks of conflict from constant probing of each others forces increase. That conflict would be far more unpredictable for the CHinese. Would it be better to take what seems to be a smaller calculated risk and eliminate the aggressor. I am also thinking of Putins comment that if you are about to have a fight you cannot avoid, make sure to strike first.
What follows is a comment I made at MoA relative to the Taiwan issue that I’ve addressed almost monthly since Trump escalated the situation in tandem with his Trade War/Decoupling effort 3 years ago.
Some here think China isn’t nationalist; I beg to differ. Over the past week of National Day celebrations, we’ve seen the release of a new patriotic film “The Battle at Lake Changjin about the Korean War (1950-53)” showcasing China’s efforts in defeating the Outlaw US Empire’s attempt to make Korea into a 100% Capitalist totalitarian entity followed by a record breaking number of sorties flown in Chinese airspace around its island of Taiwan aimed at the Outlaw US Empire to show the futility of its attempts in that area to undermine China’s sovereignty. Those efforts were capped by the release of this Global Times editorial, “Time to warn Taiwan secessionists and their fomenters: war is real” reminds both that China ***will become unified*** with Taiwan:
“The secessionist forces on the island will never be allowed to secede Taiwan from China under whatever names or by whatever means, and, the island will not be allowed to act as an outpost of the US’ strategic containment against China.
“After Tsai Ing-wen came to office, the status quo of peaceful cooperation across the Taiwan Straits was disrupted. The US government and the DPP authorities are trying to deeply integrate the island into the US’ Indo-Pacific strategy targeting China. The Chinese mainland will not tolerate the integration of the island and the US….
“Without giving up efforts for a peaceful reunification, it has increasingly become the new mainstream public opinion on the Chinese mainland that the mainland should make earnest preparations based on the possibility of combat….
“Resolving the Taiwan question and realizing national reunification has never become so weightier on the shoulders of all Chinese people. Not only the US, but also some other countries are trying to use the Taiwan question as a card to play against Beijing. ***A fundamental solution to the Taiwan question is becoming *****all the more reasonable day by day*****….
“Time will prove that this warning is not just a verbal threat***.” [My Emphasis*****]
Do take careful note of the extra emphasized text: the only way to end the Taiwan headache once and for all is to do what couldn’t be done in 1949-1950–recapture the island. And most importantly, this action is moving from the realm of option to action thanks to the machinations of the Outlaw US Empire in its vain and useless attempts to hold back China’s development.
Once China reunifies with Taiwan, what options will the Outlaw US Empire have as most of world opinion will side with China? Militarily, it’s absolutely helpless, and there’s nothing any of its Quad allies can do either. As has been abundantly clear for quite awhile, China holds all the cards just as it did with Hong Kong.
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Today, additional sorties were flown by China and I expect more will occur tomorrow as China seeks to emphasize its complete ownership of the situation while informing Japan’s new PM, Fumio Kishida, that there’s nothing Japan can do and thus it should keep its nose out of China’s domestic affairs. Global Times provided this brief assessment of Kishida and his cabinet which is very limited as a wait and see approach appears to be the current policy. I should also add that since the SCO Summit, India remains reluctant to genuinely involve itself in the Outlaw US Empire’s Quad containment effort, preferring to remain an Asian nation instead of returning to its colonial status.
Thanks for that. The trend being ratcheted up is obvious for anyone who cares to observe.
Interesting times indeed.
China the new boogyman. I wish I knew more about what was really going on in DC. The Biden admin is really following through on what were previously Trump initiatives, out of Central Asia and even West Asia as well. The ‘Russia threat’ has been turned over to the Brits basically who seem to be expected to lead the Euros against the Slavic hordes. The whole thing is thoroughly half hearted and ill conceived. Your ‘circle the wagons’ Anglophilia seems to be correct.
In an increasingly fragmented political class the anti China consensus is about the only widely shared view. I’m certain we will hear much more in the way of Oriental Despotism in years to come.
Iran. I’m expecting Iran to become much more important militarily speaking. My sense of things is that the recent submarine deal is basically a hijacking of the Aussie military budget while expanding basing rights in Perth to the end of patrolling the Indian Ocean. The Chinese can take care of themselves in the SCS. Where their sea lanes to the Middle East and Africa are threatened is in the Indian Ocean. Accordingly, both Russia and China need to build up Iranian air and sea capabilities to deny America a free hand in the Indian Ocean.
A problem to consider: The Chinese are not born warriors. True, but one must recognise a certain alterity here. China is a country which has undergone a revolution in modern times. They did this for a reason. They had to sacrifice their civilisation that they were terribly proud of in order to become the kind of people who are capable of fending off the barbarians. This is not something they relished. But they did and are doing it. Think of the Chinese PLA recruiting ad that Smoothie posted on his site: ‘home behind us; war ahead of us’. That’s serious talk.
There’s one grey area regarding US China military conflict that I wish I knew more about. Where is the animus against China coming from? It’s not Goldman Sachs. It’s not Larry fink. The Fortune 500 have done well with the China trade and are in no hurry to ‘make America great again.’ But the Pentagon seems seriously perturbed about the ‘made in China 2025’ agenda of high tech. Something’s bothering these folks that they don’t want to talk about. My hunch is that this goes beyond Russian provided sensors for Chinese SSNs. I’m guessing that the ensemble of big data, supercomputing, AI, quantum communications and such has the Pentagon planners seriously worried that substantial progress in these domains will enable the Chinese to do something that they would do if they could: first strike. Hence the strategic imperative coming from Washington is to prevent this progressive scientific development by crunching their international trade as a means of trying to do to China what the crashed oil price did to the SU back in the 80s. So, it’s not trade, but technology that seems to have tipped the Pentagon chiefs onto the warpath. Is this true? What’s going on here?
Another technical question. Recently Pepe Escobar cited a Beltway insider intelligence source: ‘He’s adamant that ‘the United States cannot project power in the Pacific … if the CIA had an organisation that was worth anything they would know that our adversaries already can spot and destroy our nuclear submarines without the slightest difficulty. The entire US Navy is obsolete and defenseless against Russian missiles.’ Pretty strong stuff, and pretty important. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
Otherwise good to plug MoA. First thing in the morning, sometimes before, sometimes after Saker. Reliable, intelligent, interesting.
Getting back to the political factors of anti China hostility – Wall St. is not driving this. We see various ‘think tanks’ and paid lobbyists agitating for Taiwan confrontation, and this supported by Pentagon money. That’s at the elite level. But popular sentiment is heavily hostile to China. From the ‘left’ it’s all about ‘authoritarianism’ and the grand obstacle to the sort of Open Society that welcomes rentier hedge funds and offshoring tax rackets. From the right it’s Flu Manchu and Yellow Peril. Steve Bannon is basically on the same page as Soros economically speaking. They want China to ‘open up’ so they can buy up Chinese assets with their funny money. But I think what we can expect is an amplification of the FREEDOM message as it faces an existential challenge from the Red Threat. This is obviously bubble thinking. In reality Western oligarchy is being challenged by Chinese aristocracy and it’s headed in the direction of a race war. I have long believed that it really will happen. Another long post, sorry, hope I’m not taking up too much space.
Yes. It is exactly this. And I have sciatica in my hip pocket anticipating the taxes wasted and service reduction to pay for this exploitation.
The Indian Ocean is a vast area of international waters to patrol and control- and there’s not much of interest except Diego Garcia….
A much better option is The Northern Sea Route, which is where Russia is focusing resources.
Russia is busy building a fleet of nuclear powered icebreakers and associated infrastructure across this region.
NSR is a better option as the route is within Russia’s territorial waters, and exclusive economic zone.(a zone the US is, of course, disputing.).
The US will have a much harder job contesting Russia and China in the NSR ….. which is why Trump wanted to buy Greenland.
[Greenland remains on my watch list, as the US already has Thule base there, and with a population of around 60,000, (less than a football stadium)…I don’t think Denmark can hold this territory once the US decides to appropriate it. ]
Hi WW. The NSR is very promising as regards the Europe trade. But oil and gas from the Middle East and minerals from Africa remain essential to China’s national security. The recent 400 billion dollar deal between China and Iran is clearly long term and entails substantial trade both ways. China gets much energy from Russia but not enough, the sea routes remain essential. China’s vulnerability to the disruption of sea traffic is acute in the Indian Ocean because they can’t project power there. Arming Iran goes a long way to solving this problem. The sea lanes in the Ocean are, or will soon be as vital to Iran as they are to China. But more. Africa figures largely in the Belt and Road plans. The new sub deal has elicited ‘proliferation’ noises from Beijing and Moscow, both of whom have indicated a willingness to conduct weapons sales and technology transfers to Iran in recent months. With this major base in WA they’re probably concerned that the Indian Ocean is becoming an American lake. A Eurasian policy would have to prevent this. Hence my belief that Iranian air and sea capabilities will soon increase. But I could be wrong – of course.
Otherwise Greenland. The issue seems to have come and gone but as you suggest if they want it they’ll keep wanting it and find ways to get it. I recall how the Moroccan govt. tried to grab a couple of minuscule islands that were within a stonesthrow of their coast. The Spanish owners got Brussels to make stirring speeches about the inviolate integrity of the EU and all. To be sure, America is not Morocco. Anyway, thanks for commenting.
Maybe China and Russia will counter – actually block – the AUKUS deal by threatening to sell an equivalent number of nuclear submarines to Iran. The US/UK will back down at lightning speed to avoid that.
Where it is getting close to hitting the fan is in the consequences of the financialization of the US versus the Chinese infrastructure-investment model. (Thanks for the Michael Hudson columns.) From a ‘production’ standpoint, the US has been gradually hollowed-out for decades – with top-down ‘blessing’ from both the government and corporate sides. Today, the US is a ‘services’ environment with nukes.
Now, with everything from paperclips to computer chips being produced in China (and not in the US), senior leaders look up and – surprise, surprise – announce that China is a threat. China is an economic threat (and theoretically-speaking a military rival), but of the AngloZionist’s elite-class making. This situation reminds me of Anthony Sutton’s work on how Wall Street financed the rise of Hitler and Stalin, to produce adversaries worthy of conducting World Wars for elite-class motives.
So, China has been ‘prepared’ by the AngloZionist’s elite-class to be the next serious opponent. Let us hope that the Chinese leadership has been reading Mr. Sutton…
Okay, I can see that you do not wish success for whatever plans “the West” may have, but I’m curious as to what you believe “winning” looks like for China and Russia.
I suspect the empires war against China will be won or lost in India. Together China and India would be 3 billion people and would have no need for the west but If the empire can use India against China then Chine is outnumbered and isolated.
China has always been bad at media control, even South China Morning Post in HongKong is owned by Jack Ma and is clearly a CIA mouth piece. If they cant manage the media in HongKong what chance do they have in India. Whoever owns the media owns the masses and the empire owns the media not just in India but even in much of China
Empire don’t own media in India. Yes Netflix, Prime and Disney (Star/Hotstar) have presence there but almost all print media is locally owned. Similarly there’s tons of local TV channels and other media mashup. India has always had free and open media (free as in free enough). And they’re not really scared of AZ media because they are used to parsing things the right way.
If China wants India on it’s side, settle the NE boundary and get off hugging Iron Cousin.
China has settled boundaries before, like, with Russia.
India has no reason to roll over for China and the Indian diaspora in USA have solid representation. And they empathise with Israel. India’s ties with Jews back two millenia and it’s the only country that did not persecute them. Ever.
As ever, I’m looking forward to the first responses from Stand Easy and White Whale.
Indian media may be privately owned but they reflect th West in its outlook and regurgitate the Western worldview to the Indian public.
Consequently the Indian worldview is largely a reflection of the Western worldview.
Example- Everything that Indians know about China comes via the West’s media, think tanks and governments.
Indian foreign policy has largely been focussed on how to keep Western opinion happy and not to annoy them- very little independent policies.
This is changing but will it change fast enough. The US actions in Afghanistan has been an eye opener for India.Remains to be seen how they will change their policies.
The India China “enmity” is an artificial one. Largely created by the US/UK to prevent the two big giants working together. This will change gradually- India-China trade is already in the 100 billion range.
How representative is this statement in India?
‘If China wants India on it’s side, settle the NE boundary and get off hugging Iron Cousin’
currently modi, representing india, the modern india, not the ancient india, are clearly a 2 timer, which could be a indian cultural thing, so its natural to you all. Security has always been priority to modern india but it seems you all keep picking ‘fights’ and starting ‘fire’ all over.
Okie, if, if, if, china agrees to come to the table, and work towards the goal of settles the NE boundary, what will India offer back?
Will you, India, reject and shut down all of the USA ‘trouble maker’, which is international known terrorist, sponsor and training programer, and return to your ancient indian culture and traditions?
bwbs
The empire OWN the media in India and through that they own what the Indians believe.
Its garbage in garbage out. Ask the public what they believe and the propaganda put in there head comes back out as if it was there was own opinion – its not. The masses dont think for themselves they absorb what they believe from the world around them and the media define what that world is.
As Orwell said the public will believe what there told they believe.
India and Australia siding with the empire against there own interests is proof of that. How you focus on a border dispute created by the empire and ignore the millions of asians butchered by your friends is also proof of that.
People are so very confused about Taiwan. Taiwan is not a country. Taiwan is China – it belongs to the People’s Republic of China, even though the ROC has decided that it owns all of China. You do know that yes? That the ROC in Taiwan believes it owns China. China beat these guys in war and they withdrew to the Island of Taiwan (which belongs to China). Anyway, Nathan Rich is boring and completely pedantic here, but it is accurate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKf9LWA4Wo
Very true.
Don’t be surprised if you wake up one day and find that ROC has taken over China and PRC has taken over the ROC.
This will leave the Empire “All dressed up and nowhere to go.
“ That the ROC in Taiwan believes it owns China”
This is true, but only partially. Thing are more complicated in here, Taiwan.
To put it very very very simple.
The ROC here, should be change to KMT party (currently the biggest opposition party), the party
of Chiang Kai-shek (蔣介石, not the current ruling party, DPP.
DPP often used this idiot point, “owns China/back to China,(反攻大陸)” attack KMT, to show people how idiot KMT are. They often attack Chiang, and think he is a brutal dictator.
I just give you an example, currently they want to remove the statue of Chiang from memorial hall.
https://www.cna.com.tw/amp/news/firstnews/202109085002.aspx
Translation of title by machine:
The transformation plan of Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall is released. Transfer promotion: transform into a historical park for introspecting authoritarianism and remove bronze statues
Its not just the Anglo US concerned about the rise of China (and one must admit they have achieve amazing things since 1949 unseen anywhere else in the past century) it is also ASEAN countries and Japan & Korea.
But that has been achieved by often stealing technology and ignoring patents & copyrights etc…
So there is a basis for a gripe.
We really have 4 players in the Anglo US –
1 Those investors who funded China who do well out of it (incl. own factories there).
2 Globalist money-changers and raiders like Soros who want to get control of China’s own industries, and who see China’s monetary position as dangerous or want to manipulate it.
3 Domestic Investors / Business owners in the West who see China as a dangerous competitor (aka a lot of Trump supporters) and damager of domestic interests.
4 The MIC who want ongoing war scenarios regardless of what the conflict is about.
And you have group 2 – the bankers and raiders playing group 1 & 3 playing them off against each other for their own ends. Same with Group 4 who are allied mainly with 2.
Its a 4 sided chess game which switches to 3 and 2 sides are various points.
They built China up but it has become a monster.
And there is also conflicts of view over China between US and UK and EU.
The basis for a war with China is them alleged being behind the COVID outbreak and South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong issues and their military and space activities.
I suspect Japan and ASEAN are nervous about China, and perhaps even Vietnam is too.
The US and UK will not allow China to attack Japan, Korea and Hong Kong particularly or disrupt trade flows from or to them.
But another element in this is by containing China they contain Russia too to some degree.
So there are lots of players and issues that will end up with a complex outcome.
China is enemy Number 1 for now but be under no illusion if China weakens the Empire will place Russia back in that slot. Russia and China have to combine and cross fertilize in terms of military tech, if China can build a thousand hypersonic missiles to every 100 that Russia can manage then they need to work together. Russia doesn’t get a pass, ever, from the Anglosphere, they may have a breather for a while as Obamas 3rd term parks Russia and pivots to Asia, again but the long game is China first, Russia next. The US the Brits, The Aussies and dim Canadians are now at their lowest and weakest point in over a hundred years, Eurasia needs to play for keeps and allow the West to destroy itself financially, even encourage it to do so, for that is what will bring the whole house of cards down. Militaries cannot function when all around them has collapsed. I see what is currently happening as a chance, an opportunity not a disaster. Russian chess moves and Chinese industriousness beats western stupidity and arrogance and if it comes to a hot war Russia can aid China to a victory in its own back yard, send the anglos back to their collapsing civilization minus the bulk of their navies, bloodied and bowed.
Sad news are, in Taiwan(where I was borne, live more than 30years, and still living today.)the government elites and most people, especially young people, truly buy in the Anglo/Zone A propaganda, and hate China from the core. Just look the 2020 presidential election of Taiwan, more anti-China, more vote you got. And even if there are small fiction of anti-war people and feeling, those people always label 舔共,aka licking China. They just don’t know what war is and means, and will bring us /all area if not whole plane into abyss.
The KMT has a new leader. So, perhaps things will change.
No, it wouldn’t. KMT has huge problem, 70% of KMT members are over 60 years old.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/newtalk.tw/news/view/amp/2021-09-07/632431
Translate of title by machine:
How old is the structure of the Kuomintang? Jiang Qichen revealed: 70% over 60 years old
(FYI: Jiang Qichen was former KMT chairman, who lost to current chairman in this KMT election)
So if this trend keep going (and in Here, Taiwan, I don’t see any reason/sign this trend will change), they will lose even bigger.
Right now a lot of Taiwan people just hate DPP
(ruling party) for their COVID-19/vaccine/lockdown policy (which, by the way, huge part is cause by anti-China/Taiwan independence ideology), doesn’t mean they hate their foreign policy or anti-China policy; also doesn’t means they like KMT.
Racking my brain, racking my brain, racking….
For the rest of the world the Aussie submarine comedy show is a new piece of theatre.
But for Australians, the acquisition of submarines is a long running sideshow.
I mean decades…. decades…. so I am trying to think, why…. why did the subs have to be built in Adelaide…..hmmmm.
The decision originally was pure political cynicism, I can remember that.
For a Federal Government like Australia, the States are like fledglings in a nest. Bird only has one worm, and the temptation is to stuff it down the throat of the widest, loudest gullet.
And so it was with the submarine deal…. 25? 30? years ago.
South Australia was squealing the loudest…and had lost out on some other juicy treat, so got promised the submarine build as a trade off.
Who was powerful and influential enough to win a treat for little backwater Adelaide.?
Why.
Alexander Downer.
Now there’s a name known to Russia-gaters.
Yes. The same Alexander Downer who met with George Papadopoulos in a London wine bar, and reported the conversation, providing the cover for the FISA surveillance of Trump and his campaign.
Funny how things are all connected.🤨
Who else – way back then – was an owner of the Adelaide Advertiser?
Why.
Rupert Murdoch.
Huh.
Who would pressure the Federal Government to commit to subs being built in Adelaide?
Has there yet been an Australian government – State or Federal _ of any color, stripe or hue – able to withstand a Murdoch media shitstorm?
Hot tip answer: nope.
So that is why the submarines “must” be built in Adelaide…..
Because of political games played something like 30 years ago, that no one can even remember.
Where will this war take place?
On the mainland?
On blue water of the Philippine Sea or Western Pacific or Indian Ocean?
On littoral waters of Eastern Asia?
In the Taiwan Strait?
On the South China Sea?
In Taiwan?
Where is it that the AUKUS and QUAD will pick a fight with China?
Are we talking about a kinetic war with conventional warheads and artillery?
Are we talking about tactical nuclear weapons?
When I probe these potentialities, I come up with “no war”, not an impending war.
If the US and its allies strike China anywhere, China will devastate US interests all over the Asia Pacific.
Then, will the US escalate to nuclear strikes? If so, China has nukes and they will survive the US nuclear attack, launching against mainland (West Coast) US, maybe Alaska, certainly, Hawaii.
If China is struck, North Korea will devastate South Korea.
If China is struck, Japan likely will participate. Thus, Japan will be devastated in return.
If China is struck, Australia likely will participate. Thus, Australia will be devastated in return.
The action-reaction mechanism of escalation is inevitable.
If the US attacks in order to prevent China to complete its rise to #1 economy, China will diminish the US so it will no longer be #1 or #2 or #3.
There is no scenario where the US escapes a bad fate if it goes to war against China.
China is not going to instigate a war. It will not strike first.
Taiwan, if the US and the DPP (President Tsai’s party) move to establish the island as a separate nation, will be taken by force by China. No question about that. Will the US fight a war on Taiwan and bring that war to the Mainland? Unlikely. The cost in casualties for the US will be enormous. And when the shooting stops, the US will have imprisoned all US troops left alive. China will win on Taiwan.
What the US dreams of is a naval war. China will not fight a naval war. It has no means to win a naval war and won’t have the means for 10-20 years. It is not a necessity for China to have naval superiority. More important for the next 20 years is its strategic alliance with Russia, its relationship with Pakistan, its relationship with Iran. These give China an array of asymmetrical advantages against the US, AUKUS and QUAD.
Scheme any scenario, rational or irrational, and you can see there will be no war.
The US is moving the semiconductor production of Taiwan to the US mainland. Until that is functionally operational, the US will not want any combat near Taiwan.
Freedom of navigation? Bogus. 85% of ship traffic through the waters of the South China Sea is Chinese. They are not restricting shipping.
The real damage (substitute for kinetic war) the US can do (and has done) is economic, mainly scaring off customers for trade with China. It began with demonizing Huawei, leading to Huawei’s 5G rollout being devastated in the US, Five Eyes, Europe and other nations where US hegemony is determinative. It cost the company its dominance in 5G and 4G and it crippled its smart phone manufacturing business.
Sanctions are the US’ greatest weapon. China’s economy is particularly dependent on free trade. Sanctions hurt imported and exported products and components. Waging a very aggressive economic war is the war the US will ratchet up while thrusting weapons and alliances toward the PRC as if it were preparing for a kinetic war.
Economic hegemony is an inexpensive form of warfare, and the US still has the hegemonic power to do it for another decade or more.
“Economic hegemony is an inexpensive form of warfare, and the US still has the hegemonic power to do it for another decade or more.”
This is probably true, but reading several economic websites (ZeroHedge, KWN, and affiliates) the current inflation in the U.S. will become hyperinflationary very quickly thus destroying the value of the US$. Once that happens, sanctions mean little and countries will start looking for other stabilizing currencies.
The U.S. economy runs on debt, and once debt starts to implode via mass money printing to prop up that debt (already in process to a degree) our current computer generated monetary system will become worthless rather quickly compared to past depressions/declines.
Presently, since Nixon, the US dollar is backed only by the good faith of the US Govt. A Promise to pay interest on its debt, not really to pay the debt if “called”.
The US has a massive hoard of gold it could use to back the dollar.
The US government has massive land holdings in the the 50 States.
The US itself has the most valuable real estate assets in the world.
The US economy may be in trouble, but assets are not becoming worthless. Capital still flows into the US, not away.
The notion that the dollar, ever inflated will burst like an Argentine peso or Venezuelan bolivar is illusion to most, delusion to some.
The grind down of the US economy is cyclical. With an infrastructure rebuild, the US will rise like a phoenix.
Look at the simple tools Trump used, tax reductions and regulation relief, and how the economy came to life for the most in history reduction in poverty, development of Black and Latinos’ incomes, rapid development of new businesses. If Covid had not hit, the US economy would be growing at 4-5%.
The US is very wealthy. Not just the top 1%.
It has financial reserves, technological capabilities, research facilities and unrestrained capitalist greed and wide spread pursuit of achievement, success and enrichment that attracts brain power from all over the world.
I don’t like the present ideologies of America, but the foundation is without peer.
Can the US survive the present dystopia, liberal excesses, self-inflicted wounds, degeneracy and corruption?
Maybe. But it will certainly survive a battered dollar problem.
Cryptocurrency will come to the rescue.
Otherwise, a SDR system for international trade will be substituted. And the dominance of the US will persist with that.
Meanwhile, Bitcoin and Ethereum will gain traction and use.
The Chinese digital yuan is rolling out slowly and will eventually travel the BRI trails, also.
There is an evolution because of the Internet and digital commerce that has more future impact on the dollar than the debt load of the US government.
“The grind down of the US economy is cyclical. With an infrastructure rebuild, the US will rise like a phoenix.”
I also believe that the US can rise again. It takes a lot of consideration, care, respecting the empire. He doesn’t like their ideologies, but they are determined (“the children of darkness are more cunning than the children of light – luke 6.8”). US soft power is more powerful than China and Russia. American Christian Protestantism offers the whole package: feminism and LGBT covertly and indirectly, youth power, material prosperity, etc., etc., etc.
bitcoin and cryptocurrencies may have been created by the US, CIA, FED, to launder money from the infinite money printer, and also to take money from Asians. Whenever bitcoin explodes upwards, many dollars enter the market, probably dollars made by the Fed. Was it a form of hybrid warfare?
Possibly. All of this being used in hybrid warfare, and Putin and Xi are not aware and aware of it all.
The empire is ingenious and cunning!!!
The Quad is a strategic dialogue only, a talk-shop, not a strategic alliance. Any attempt to turn it into the latter will see the Indians heading for the exit at quick-march.
great text, interesting. China is facing a serious challenge for its existence. America doesn’t give up, and it still has geniuses in America and in government. They combine forces and weapons. And there’s another equally powerful threat against china: religion. The bible was a collection of books formed by Constantine so that the Roman Empire would not be divided. The bible has good things, and it has bad things. The Bible is a dangerous book. American Protestant churches are updated by scientists, psychologists, CIA paranormals, and are a class in marketing and brainwashing. It converts people to Zionism, empire and Israel, and promises freedom to women and girls in the name of God and the paranormal philosopher Jesus. The CIA has a serious study and experience with psychics. Probably the American Protestant capitalist Christianity will overthrow China and Russia because it is very seductive and deals with the soul, with powerful music and so on. You have to open your eye. This sect is primarily responsible for the current dominance of Latin America.
@Larchmonter You’re overestimating American capabilities. If you’ve read China sitreps on this blog from around one and a half years back, there were reports that China was trying to build its own semiconductor industry and ways to evade US sanctions and blocking. Besides, although the US blocked the Huawei 5G, the West has no alternative.
It’s just speculation that the world will embrace cryptocurrencies because the fluctuations over the past 10 months have shown that it’s not a reliable system. So, your idea that the USD will be converted to crypto won’t ensure that the dominance of the USD would continue.
Sanctions won’t hold China back as its currently part of the largest regional trade agreement (RCEP) and they’re trying to integrate more with the international markets. The more China integrates its market, the harder it will be for the US to cause harm to China without harming themselves and other countries.
I think that a possible explanation is that the US is trying to stall China’s advances in technology by blocking China’s sea routes. A similar situation of declining oil prices led to the demise of the USSR which probably is the reason for US intentions on China.
…hatred for China is a political consensus, at least in the USA ruling class (hence the stupid “CCP virus” expression and other such illiterate infantilisms).
The “WuFlu” propaganda is a continuation of the decades-long campaign to dehumanise Chinese people. It is meant to link China with “unleashing” biological weapons “on the free world,” and thus justify the use of nuclear weapons against “filthy dog eaters.”
I would argue another great weakness of China is nuclear weapons, ie not enough of them. China also critically needs the ability to mass produce S-500s & A-235s.
Your point about industrialization is key. In WW2 it was the USA’s most important factor in its victory.
https://www.commonlit.org/texts/how-american-industry-won-world-war-ii
However, there is a very big difference today. In WW2, The US homeland was basically untouched by the war. This ment, Molly the weider could build her victory ships in relative peace. This will not be the cause in a future conflict. Chinese industry as well as western industry will be crippled quickly in any all out struggle. The world is much smaller and interconnected. Total war today will bring death and destruction to all of those involved with much collateral damage. The world has become a much more dangerous and small place since 1940. The only real objective to be obtained in a fight between the US and China is population reduction.
I would make a must read suggestion if you would understand the history of the western dealings with China and much of Asia.
The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia
Book by Alfred W. McCoy
Mesmo quando falamos do desastre afegão, no que se refere a baixas – mortos em combate, entenda-se – a coisa não passou de uma nota de rodapé para o complexo militar- industrial dos E.U.A. ; mas em que estado mental cairão os cidadãos e as supostas elites dos E.U.A. quando os 7.500 marinheiros e pilotos de um dos seus porta-aviões nucleares forem morar no fundo do mar nas primeiras horas de uma guerra com a China?
Eis o que eu penso: a guerra do Império do Caos com a República Popular da China só acontecerá se houver um erro de cálculo desastroso por parte dos guerreiros de sofá que se sentam na Casa Branca, pois o Império só bate em quem não tem força para responder à agressão.
Todas as guerras dos E.U.A. foram guerras de desgaste constante (de homens e de material) a um ritmo lento, o que sempre muito agradou ao complexo militar- industrial: essa dinâmica permitiu à oligarquia vender armas regularmente e não excitar demasiadamente o povo, pois relativamente poucos dos seus filhos morriam na guerra . Uma guerra com a República Popular da China fará os E.U.A. experimentarem aquilo que será uma “Operação Bagration” no Mar da China e o ser-se destruído não traz nem lucros financeiros à oligarquia nem o acalmar dos nervos ao povo. Os E.U.A. querem o último prego no seu caixão? Pois esse prego será, como tudo hoje é, “Made in PRC”.
Google translation,MOD:
Even when we talk about the Afghan disaster, when it comes to casualties – killed in combat, that is – it was just a footnote for the US military-industrial complex; but what state of mind will the citizens and supposed elites of the U.S. fall into when the 7,500 sailors and pilots of one of their nuclear aircraft carriers go to live under the sea in the first hours of a war with China?
Here’s what I think: the War of the Empire of Chaos with the People’s Republic of China will only happen if there is a disastrous miscalculation by the couch warriors who sit in the White House, as the Empire only hits those who lack strength to respond to aggression.
All US wars were wars of constant attrition (of men and material) at a slow pace, which the military-industrial complex was always very pleased with: this dynamic allowed the oligarchy to sell weapons regularly and not overexcite the people, as it was relatively few of his children died in the war. A war with the People’s Republic of China will make the U.S. experience what will be an “Operation Bagration” in the China Sea and being destroyed brings neither financial profits to the oligarchy nor calm the nerves of the people. Does the U.S. want the last nail in your coffin? For this nail will be, as everything is today, “Made in PRC”.
I’m in awe of your ability to summarize things and now I know why I hear such panic inside this false bravado of the U.S. security establishment. Yes indeed. The U.S. failed to color revolution Russia and destroy its economy. The U.S. failed to destroy Syria. Iran showed that their missile technology makes a direct attack too expensive. Yes, both Hezbollah and the Houthis remain undefeated and now our client govt in Afghanistan folded.
It’s been a clean sweep of losses for the U.S. so what do we do? We write papers calling China a paper Tiger because that is the only thing we are good at.
Oh, I’d say that we believe that if we could destroy China then we believe we could re-assert a new economic war against Iran and Russia. We really are Mordor.
Saker,
Iranian media are citing a document published on WikiLeaks, according to which the Azerbaijani leader considers the relations between Baku and Tel Aviv to be an “iceberg”, only a small part of which is on the surface.
Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian is extremely concerned about “Israeli” provocations near Iran’s borders.
Israel used the conflict between the Republic of Azerbaijan and Armenia in Karabakh to penetrate some parts of Azerbaijan. We will not tolerate the presence of Zionists near our borders.
Iranian military exercises near the borders of the Republic of Azerbaijan are a warning to the Zionists.
The Aliyev crony is a puppet of the Anglo-Zionists. They always find others to fight their wars and create hatred between neighbours with historical ties , like they did with Ukraine and are trying to do with Belarus.
divide et impera my friends.
Israel used the conflict between the Republic of Azerbaijan and Armenia in Karabakh to penetrate some parts of Azerbaijan. We will not tolerate the presence of Zionists near our borders.
Iran and Turkey have been at odds for a long time. Since Azerbaijan is in Turkeys back pocket, it is not hard to understand how Iran is not happy with Baku. Where I get lost is the part about Zionist near our borders. Can you please elaborate. I am not up to speed with Baku relations with Tel a Viv.
Andrei,
When? Before or during March, the month the Empire seems to like to host its parties of choice? Assuming we do not do a “waltz-in” to one still being prepared before then?
My guess is that Mardi Gras / Divided States Carnival 2022 masquerade ball may well turn out to have might as well have had Genghis Khan and his hordes as guests.
That maniacal pursuit of global domination will destroy both America and the entire West.
The coalition of China and Russia is too strong for Western imperialism.
Problem one: I never said that “everything was good” -> this is a strawman fallacy
Problem two: you missed the “at least compared to the West
Problem three: your point about salaries is what the Russians call “the average fever temperature in the hospital”
You forget that Russia is not Monaco or Lichtenstein.
As for a color revolution in Russia, it just goes to prove that you are totally detached from the Russian reality.
Why then make such categorical statements (“all they can achieve”).
How about this: don’t post a comment unless you have at least the basic knowledge of the topic?
Cheers!
I am just afraid. Russia is too much important for world.
I wish Russia to reach western life standard.
Low life standard ruined USSR. I do not wish that to Russia.
Average salary in Russia should be over 100 000 Roubles. In western part of Russia they almost achieved that.
But Russia is not just western part. That’s why Russia now invest money in Far East and Caucasus regions.
Till 2030 they have to reach that goal. Otherwise it is not going to be good.
About Color Revolution… I talked to many young Russians. And I know why I say this
Many of them obsessed and fascinated by the West.
Maybe Russia should think about stronger Soft Power. Amerika conquered world…not by rockets and navy, but with soft power.
@Bosnian Croat
/About Color Revolution… I talked to many young Russians. And I know why I say this
Many of them obsessed and fascinated by the West./
Exactly how many young Russians think that the West is better? Can you give an exact number or percentage without the usual claim of those who worship the West ; “many Russians prefer to live in the West” bla bla.
Russia isn’t just Moscow or St. Petersburg, and people in those areas don’t represent the entire Russian population.
I think that ultimately China’s and Russia’s advantage is that they have competent leadership and the U.S. does not. For the U.S. to go after China is a figurative “nuclear option” because of U.S. dependence on Chinese imports. I think the oligarchy depends on this relationship, and yet is frustrated that they cannot seize control of that country as they have the U.S. government. The U.S. could go after Russia without serious economic consequences, but China is another matter. However, a multilateral world is intolerable for Washington and despite the economic danger they are gingerly exploring ways to cut China down. They don’t seem to have a real plan but are winging it, using the old tricks they have employed in the past. They will explore different strategies but pull back if the U.S. is damaged in some way, similar to what has been happening diplomatically. I don’t think the U.S. is in a position to cripple China because China has the actual tangible sources of power such as a strong industry. The U.S. is probably the more vulnerable country and hopefully will eventually realize the futility of going after China.
I would just add that I don’t think the U.S. can continue to spend $1 trillion every year on the military indefinitely. At some point military spending will be cut and U.S. attention focused on the economic problems.
I completely agree with your assessment of the present situation, and your opinion of U. S. inability to continue $1+T of defense spending indefinitely. It’s not just defense spending; it’s also infrastructure/social/waste spending at the same time, without a productive economy.
From here on, China’s best strategy is just to proceed on its own path steadily, and watch the rotting empire wither away on its own follies.
China should fund and support opposition/resistance against foreign US military bases like Okinawa. And independence movements in illegally annexed territories like Hawaii. Just like the US does all over the place.
Hope they’ll leave my country too some day and take their nuclear gravity bombs with them, which only paint a target over us.
America’s malign behavior since the Cold War (and likely before) has been driven by one fundamental motivation: the expansion of American world dominance. That is, a unipolar world order dominated by a single sovereign, the United States of America.
This is USA’s Wolfowitz Doctrine, which is named after Paul Wolfowitz, who articulated this America ambition in the early 1990s.
U.S. STRATEGY PLAN CALLS FOR INSURING NO RIVALS DEVELOP
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/08/world/us-strategy-plan-calls-for-insuring-no-rivals-develop.html
As a result, all of America’s wars of aggression such as against Serbia in the 1990s to its “humanitarian” wars against Libya and Syria to the bogus War on Terrorism for the past 20 years have all been driven by this primordial American drive for imperial conquest.
All other pretexts like “Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq” or fighting Al-Queda and ISIS are nothing more than Nazi-style Big Lies that the United States hides behind.
This war on terrorism is bogus
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/06/september11.iraq
So too are the propaganda pretexts (Freedom and Democracy vs. Authoritarianism; a “Free and Open” Indian-Pacific Ocean; or Taiwan) that are deployed to justify America’s Hybrid War against China.
US War Plans with China Taking Shape
https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2021/09/us-war-plans-with-china-taking-shape.html?m=1
AUKUS vs China: Inching Toward War
https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2021/09/aukus-vs-china-inching-toward-war.html?m=1
Unfortunately, inside China not everything goes so well. As in Russia, there are two fractions fighting each other. Military is organized around Xi and reminds russian ‘siloviki’ fraction organized around Putin. Another one, by Russians called ‘comsomolets’ (‘communist youth’) is actually pro-american fraction, organized around China’s big tech, some financial institutions. Recent actions curbing big tech and blackouts are results of fight between those two fractions. So it pretty much reminds situation in Russia. When it comes to actual war, Anglos are cowards and only attack when they’re sure nothing happens to them. But they are very good at corrupting their opponents from inside, using terrorists, inciting civil wars and so on. No one should underestimate them when it comes to combination of lies, bribes, terrorists and other dirty stuff.
Regarding China, Nikolai Vavilov has good insight what happens there, I recommend to look at his youtube channel. All content is in russian but automated translation will do.
Beautiful. Thank you. So glad there are many who are intelligent.
Israel nunca perdoaria a China pelo negócio bilionário com o Irã. Esta ai a vingança típica de Israel.
Google translation,MOD:
Israel would never forgive China for the billionaire deal with Iran. This is Israel’s typical revenge.
It’s the battle between dollar as leading global reserve currency and China/Russia/Iran and growing number of nations which are bored with the USA. The rest of all is pure smoke. Dollar will loose because in history not a single currency has managed to dominate more that 100 years.
Chinas cardinal sin is of course its one road one belt initiative to circumvent the anglosaxons ability to strangle the flow of goods to and from china.
Just as germany had to be destroyed when it to tried to circumvent the anglos when it launched its mega infrastructure project back in the days called the berlin-bagdad railway in the early 20 century.
I do not see some delusional “window of opportunity” for anyone to do anything to China.
China has, theoretically at leat, an army of civilians in most, if not in all, Western countries. It will be next to impossible to round up and incarcerate all Chinese people in the US and other Western countries, no to mention the legal implicatrions.
So, left alone, these groups could turn into a colossal army inside the societies of aggressor countries.
Don’t be so sure. After hundreds of years of servitude, insecurities and shame, Chinese people, especially those that have managed to settle overseas, tend not to make much noise lest they are singled out. It’s how the Chinese have managed to survive in its near history. They will do little when they are shipped to internment camps. Some have even made friends and a living out of over-compensating by hating their roots.
A poster said the Chinese are not born warriors. That is true. They have all been buried in the last 2-300 years.
Fortunately this is going away, at least domestically in China, as the country advances. It almost brought tears to my eyes when China sent planes and troops to evacuate its people from Yemen and Libya instead to abandoning or expecting/begging other countries to help. China is growing up.
Its a delicate balance between growing confidence and nationalistic hubris. While the Chinese administration have been known to “harness” this new found nationalism when it suits its agenda, i also believe it fully understands its follies. There are priority queues in transport hubs and perks at many places for people who’ve served but its nothing like the “thank you for your service” warrior culture brainwash propaganda BS like the USA.
It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
Don’t give me that crap we aren’t “born warriors”. You may be correct if you are describing the weak, corrupt Qing and later Guomindang under Jiang Jieshi but it was the PVA lead by Peng Dehuai and Mao that was able to rout the UN forces despite the disparity of firepower.
I am Chinese that was unfortunately born and raised in the USA. I even served in the USMC for 8 years and been to America’s imperial battlefields multiple times, which helped me to wake up to the bullshit of the US empire. One thing, however, is the fact that I have always been proud to be Chinese, can speak my family’s dialect and learned Mandarin on my own. I have also grown a seething mistrust and hatred of Americans and the woke west and there are more and more people getting angrier like me. The self loathing white ass kissing cucks typically come from HK with wealthy but worthless parents, the typical kind that emigrate to the west. I despise these traitors just as much as I despise self loathing black ass kissing white liberal cucks.
You are wrong if you think I allow myself or any of my friends and family to be locked away, especially as a gun enthusiast. Though I haven’t practiced as much because of insane ammo prices, I still train as much as I can. I have several like minded friends and acquaintances who are also Chinese with other East Asians mixed in, some fellow veterans, others with MMA backgrounds. I won’t speak for them but I will say for myself I stand up for myself and have no problem telling any white or black asshole that the hatred is mutual. I keep to myself and don’t cause drama but I have no problem getting physical if you try to push me around, like some people have found out the hard way. I will say that we can absolutely form up and become a guerilla force if S really HTF.
For all the tough bravado that anglos like to spew out I’ve been around them my whole life and I am easily say the majority are all talk no walk. The most obnoxious ones Ive noticed will back down or even get butthurt when I get into their face or counter their hypocrisy with cold hard truth. It also doesn’t help that the biggest anti-China hawks are obese, pathetic cucks that have never served a day in their lives. The only action they get is behind a keyboard lol. I’ve even seen the quality of some of the more recent active duty and veterans at my last job, and makes me glad I got out before it became full on woke. I’ve met active and veteran PLA and their shooting skills far surpass that of muricans.
So I wonder if America is really a warrior culture? Despite the military worship the fact is that active duty all volunteer US military makes up less than 1% of the US population. The most recent Gallup poll from 2015 shows that only 44% of muricans are willing to serve, compared to PRC’s 71%. It doesn’t help that 71% of US 17-24 year olds aren’t even eligible because of obesity (lmao), criminal records or lack of education. I still remember last year how millennials were freaking out about war with Iran and a possible draft after the Soleimani assassination. These woke, multicolored hair wearing, self loathing, easily offended neckbeards sure don’t look like “born warriors” to me!
Thank you you have just proven my point on things are changing.
On the other hand you must also realize you are not the norm. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
In the Chinese near history, esp pre ww2, people who survived are people who’ve fled, the ones who stayed and fought often perished. It’s a generalization yes, but also a fact. It also underpinned that perceived “not born warrior” weakness we’re taking about in this thread.
I think we are in agreement, whilst i might have used too broad a brush in my illustration, you have to agree when shit hits the fan, 8/10 Chinese immigrant families are NOT going to stick their neck out. Again something i hope that’s changing.
we have more in common than you know.
Well met, and keep well bro.
Yes I understand that there are still many brainwashed idiots that still worship the west but that is slowly but surely changing. All the bigotry and propaganda sure is helping that change as well. You need to realize as well there are more of people like me than you know. People who support the CPC, want China to violently humble the west and who aren’t woke PC cowards. We say and laugh about things that would cause a SJW meltdown if it were in English.
I am definitely not the norm, as those born here are the ones who easily fall for the brainwashing. I dont have a problem saying they almost had me as well, otherwise I wouldn’t have enlisted in the first place. However, I am glad I did as it has actually woken me up on what the USA is all about and I took advantage of it as much as I could and benefitted financially. It also helps that I have first hand knowledge of US tactics, techniques and procedures and can use it against them if things get worse.
Military service doesn’t seem to be the norm for most nations, especially the US if someone likes me only make up less than 1%.
And yes those who flee aren’t fighters for the most part. The same can be said for all the Afghan, Syrian and South Vietnamese refugees who’ve escaped to the west. Of course those willing to fight will mostly die in battle and the ones who escape to safer, more comfortable lives in the west will be seen as soft. However, there will be children of those soft individuals that will grow up and say screw the norm and will become warriors.
I agree for the most part as well, but I don’t agree that 8/10 Chinese immigrant families will just allow themselves to be sheep lead to slaughter. Can’t say definitely what will happen as I can’t speak for others but I can tell you that the trade war is what helped mainland Chinese realize that the west is the enemy that cant be trusted. All my family back in China support Xi, the CPC and are sick of the west. The forums I frequent have plenty of like minded individuals as well so we can definitely say things are changing for the better.
Anyway, thanks you stay well also.
You have given a good dose of reality to keyboard warriors, but I fear their hatred and ignorance will not let any sense or facts penetrate. The Chinese are a cultured and polite people never itching for a fight, but if push comes to shove the “West” may be in for an unpleasant surprise. I hope and pray things don’t come to that.
The Chinese are not fighters in the sense that they don’t provoke bar fights. In international matters, too, their approach is that of a cultured people who prefer things to be talked through. After all, fighting and killing are so uncivilized, and ancient civilizations have been through all that. The West, barbarian when China was a high civilization, mistakes polite softness for weakness and civilized attempts to avoid warfare as “not strong enough to fight”. That will quickly change if the West tries to act on fantasies and ignorance. After all, the “ragheads” or “towelheads” taught the hardened warriors from the West a lesson or two and the “gooks” in Vietnam showed that puny looking “walking rice bellies” can fight well if push comes to shove.
Racism is alive and kicking – alas! – and we seeing it in full force regarding China.
@guest
Of course not, thats why I speak to them in the only language they seem to understand. To me, bigotry begets bigotry so when they throw it in my direction I respond with my own.
You definitely understand our mentality so I appreciate that. I don’t enjoy getting violent or confrontational at all but I refuse to let anyone look down upon me and assume I’m weak because I’m not an obnoxious subhuman like them.
I don’t want a war to happen either but they definitely deserve a violent humbling if they want it so bad. If the underequipped PVA could do it 70 years ago in Korea imagine the modern PLA with modern firepower and the ability to deliver missiles to US soil if they dare to attack the mainland.
“But I bet you that a Chinese solider in defense of his own land will outperform any Anglo imperialist solider fighting for “democracy” (Ha!) thousands of miles away from home”.
As they did in Korea nearly 60 years ago. When the Chinese army crossed the Yalu River they caught the Americans fully unprepared and came within an ace of utterly routing them.
Korean War was about 70 years ago. Chinese did routed them! They gave up on evicting them from the Korean Peninsula only because in those days China didn’t have the logistic infrastructure to maintain the supply line needed for such total eviction.
I consider the mandatory Covid vaccination program to be of crucial importance in the US war effort.
Lt. Col. Theresa Long is already suggesting to American Sec/Def that all military pilots given mandated vaccinations should be grounded
The direct link does not work when posted up on other sites, so here is the link to the publication itself
https://www.globalresearch.ca/
And this is the title of the article: “Army Physician and Aerospace Medicine Specialist Calls on Pentagon to Order All Pilots Who Have Received COVID-19 Vaccine to be Grounded”
It looks like mandatory vaccination is set to, or already making a major negative impact on the US military, and the same likely on any US war effort
As usual I’d very much like to congratulate The Saker for his conciseness N sharpness regarding such complex big games evolving.
As regarding to Brasil, as the Saker himself already noticed, it is currently being ridiculously and stupidly run by the AngloZionist empire and has become a bloody colony. I’m sorry to use such words but the current level of the whole brazilian stablishment is preposterously low N their dumbness N shortsightness is truly astonishing. Brasil is currently being de-industrialized in the fastest pace of its (short) history N abdicating of trying to build a truly independent country N most of all really become a NATION to all brazilians of all origins (european, african, indian and most of all MIXED because there is not a “pure race”) after the coloured revolution that ended up with the “golpeachment” (brazilian joke binding the portuguese word “golpe” (coup d’etat) and the word “impeachment”) of our former president Dilma Rousseff. It’s certainly very important to underscore the main role of the DOJ and american intelligence in all that brazilian drama that started back in 2013 with the so-called “jornadas de junho” (june’s journées) more than a year before brazilian general elections that’d take place late in 2014 but even with this N a massive mass-media 24/7 propaganda blaming her presidency for all brazilian missdoings since Pedro Álvares Cabral arrived Porto Seguro (Bahia) back in 1500, she won the race for a 2nd term, stopping the AZ plans mainly concerning many many energy resources from oil to rare earth found troughout a really massive country (as China but not much bigger than half the RF though) for that time. Than “plan B” started full blown N the coup with the judiciary playing for the most the AZ playbook of lawfare, making room for the regime change longed.
Now it’s getting pretty much clear that the coup and the total reducing of brazilian authonomy was part of a bigger game being played N I believe both QUAD and AUKUS are moves in the same direction played by the AZ, which doesn’t mean that I think they will achieve whatever they may wish but that at least they are moving the most strong pieces they have through the chessboard. Let us see if this new sort of “cold (for who?) war” will really slow the pace of the eurasian integration that, even with all the problems it’s facing, looks slowly N patiently paving it’s way into the future.
Cheers from Rio de Janeiro and sincerely my best regards.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-04/taiwan-preparing-for-war-with-china/100511294
I leave this provocateur Taiwan FM, and his statements/ Anglo Imperial puppet action here.
Without another comment.
Even in a superficial, birds eye view everyone will agree that this hostility game between Washington and Peking is a classif one of cumulative, mutual or circular causation process.
The trade clashes, the high tech run, the control of oceans , the military innovations R&D, the ‘soft power increments aimed by both, the progressive loss of control by the anglo-zion empire all around, the diametrically opposing concepts of social organization, the limited nature of planet resources and world of the world market… Along with it all, the hearts and minds thing. From the fist fingers of one of them the sand inexorably tends to escape,
Saker,
I agree that China is now Anglo/Davos Public Enemy #1 and the old enmities that you outline here are absolutely helping drive this. The problem is that there isn’t any one faction within the ‘Anglosphere’ that is in charge of everything. There are definite cracks within which are playing out as a series of nights of long knives…. for example, the latest is that against Fed Chair Jerome Powell, who has been very clearly pushing back against the Biden administration’s plans to hyperinflate real dollars (not sterilized bank reserves) with these spending bills, which will remake the entire way the U.S. handles capital internally, which is to say very badly.
What I fear now, esp. with this AUKUS alliance is exactly what I’ve been warning about for months, Davos using these 3 to start a war with China in order to weaken all of them and leave Europe as the ‘last one standing.’ That’s what I don’t see anyone else bracketing in their analysis.
The real worry now is the chaotic collapse of the EU as Germany’s leadership continues down the path of self-destruction, as you pointed out in your last article. This, however, will not last through 2023.
To that end, in order to unravel this mess, Powell has to keep monetary policy tight (he’s losing a 3rd hawk now), which allows China to deal with winding down it’s overleveraged property markets while squeezing a decision out of the EU to either fully integrate and default on its debt and go full EUSSR or break into two different currency zones.
Russia is smartly cleaving off bits and pieces through gas pipelines and trade policy.
From this perspective I think the next six months will tell the tale of how things play out in the long run.
I expect the vandals in D.C. and Davos to force a chaotic collapse on the U.S. and the UK as revenge.
All the Best
A war in the far East seems inevitable, doesn’t it? Almost like a “changes unseen in a century” vs “The Thucydides trap” type situation.
The Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) has been given an ever increasing budget over the last decade or so. They seem to be strengthening their so called island chain of defense quite considerably. Places like Gaum, the Marshall islands, Palau and islands I’ve never even heard of have new buildings and military equipment. Lots of missiles and missile defense, command and control and EW equipment to be precise. Then of course there is also “the best Navy in the Galaxy”.
What is China to do? They are almost surrounded and a blockade is very possible. Perhaps become a vassal of the US? Take a longer term approach and develop trade over land and ignore the leviathan? Throw the first punch and get kinetic as soon as possible? Continue with the revolution in military affairs (hypersonic missiles, AI, C2W, EW) and let the Empire’s equipment fade into irrelevance?
I don’t think China is looking for a war. They seem to be interested in fair trade.
The Empire has the illusion of peace and a rich lifestyle based on the back of Chinese labor and industry. Its aspirations for control are far greater than the Empire’s actual capabilities. I think this causes much angst in the heart of the Empire.
“Nightlong in the cold
that monkey sits
Conjecturing
How to catch the moon”.
-Masaoka Shinki
Saker que piensas de la crisis energetica en China, lo que podria reducir todo el avance tecnologico que refieres, tal vez los gringos quieren que se pudran desde adentro mas alla de la confrontacion militar.
Sabes que? lamento diferir contigo porque fueron los mismos chinos con su gran Partido Comunista y Xi Jinping, que fueron a DAVOS a decirles a los oligarcas del mundo que ellos¡¡ iban a preservar el globalismo¡¡¡
Eso es terrible.
La verdad es que te recomiendo que si por un momento dejas de pensar desde la idea de dos bloques, como lo haces, y lo ves desde los paises mas humildes, te das cuenta que ni la izquierda ni la derecha, ni el golbalismo ni el “multiculturalismo” sirven, porque al final son lo mismo. Son lo mismo. Saludos
Hi Saker,
Aukus would lose any war with China. The trouble is everyone loses in a war and the USA does not seem to care about all the misery democracy wars brings to the world, as long as they continue to print money to fund their savagery and can contain home populations nothing will change. I really despair about how the west is sinking into darkness. I live in Ireland where we have simply become a Vassel state of a different empire. I hope the west loses the capability to wage war, sadly I think it will take getting a very bloody nose for that to happen.
Noel
Forget about the Anglo-Zionists’ masturbatory fantasies about death, destruction, doom and gloom for China (and Russia). What we have right in front of us is a world where the global balance of forces has matured into almost the exact opposite of what it amounted to thirty-odd years ago. The Empire came closest to smashing the Chinese state in 1989 (the colour revolution stunt on Tienanmen). All subsequent provocations have been stillborn, pathetic flops like in HongKong, Xinjiang, along with all their media hoaxes. They backed off, really threw in the towel in Afghanistan despite the colossal untapped mineral wealth there. Left to be extracted by China. Taiwan will be no different.
Much is being said of U.S. incompetency with regard to national leadership. If the stupidity of U.S. foreign policy and military posture can be so easily spotted by readers here on the Saker site, then you can bet that people in positions of influence in the U.S. power structure can also spot these same issues. We would reasonably expect them to have access to some of the best minds in the world. So what is the cause behind the incessant blundering?
The U.S. is not a coherent nation. It is an amalgamation of competing, moneyed interests. Those fractious interests, along with the vast organizations they control, exert conflicting (and often short-term / shortsighted) influence on the pay-to-play U.S. “government”. Essentially, although some of these interests might involve rational long-term goals and planning, they tend to cancel one another. They are after all, first and foremost capitalist competitors. This leaves only the short-term, loot and pillage mentality. They may not be able to “win” against China in the long run but in the meanwhile, they can loot billions from the public coffers. Anyone in a position to promote the long-term strategic interests of the U.S. must first combat armies of parasites, in addition to their outright oligarchic counterparts, and no such actor or group of actors will take the chance of losing their power position for the “national good”. This would be considered, under that mentality, to be a “sucker’s bet”.
You can see this mentality trickled down and reflected among the general U.S. citizenry. For all of the flag waving, calls for justice and complaints about the 0.1% and corrupt systems, few citizens actually give a damn enough to stick their necks out. When given the chance, most “social justice warriors” (for example) will jump at the opportunity to join the corrupt power elite (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez comes to mind). It isn’t that the U.S. population is incapable of greatness, it is just that that type of effort, attitude and commitment doesn’t pay off and can even be counter productive to one’s own best interests. As an example, plenty of knowledgeable people know how to fix the U.S. education system – but that system is run by and in the interests of a parasitic class that has as its primary goal, the continuation of their own power. All of the teachers play along and do the best they can, given the decadent nature of the system. Any teacher who tries to “reform” the system will quickly find themselves jobless. You can’t survive as an honest patriot in a country run by dishonest parasites.
I expect that this situation is not too dissimilar from that found in both Russia and China before their revolutions.
”I expect that this situation is not too dissimilar from that found in both Russia and China before their revolutions.”
Exactly — with one absolutely crucial difference:
Unlike the downtrodden, oppressed Russians and Chinese suffering the horrors of World War while being ruled by hopelessly corrupt and incompetent governments in the service of imperialism, the US population belongs to and identifies itself with an imperialist, oppressor nation. US Americans, for all their prattle about ”the American revolution”, have neither wit, nor spine to make any revolution except by land-grabbing and genocide. They can’t even be troubled to grab their fabulous firearms and get rid of George Soros, and he knows it. Great fun to watch.
By the end of this decade, Taiwan will be official Chinese territory while most of Ukraine will be official Russian territory — and not a sanction in sight.
As someone who lives in US with many guns myself I absolutely agree with you! Too many tough talking murcicans with guns that are so proud of how “free” they are yet none of these p*ssies have the balls to use them on pieces of sh*t like Soros, the Clintons, Obamas, etc. I even purposely buy good quality but affordable Chinese optics and have a full color PRC flag patch on one of my rifles just to trigger these racist yet impotent clowns.
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@Dongfeng81
Pindos are proof positive of the fact that a national government anywhere on the planet, unless it has been forced upon the nation by conspiracies from within and/or without, very much reflects the moral and cultural stature of the general population ruled by it. This by itself is already a strong hint as to how the US would fare in an open confrontation with China and Russia: No better than in Afghanistan, only a lot faster.
@ Nussiminen
Oh yes, as a USMC veteran that has been to Iraq and Aghanistan multiple times I can tell you that without air, armor or arty support Army and Marine infantry would absolutely been destroyed at Wanat, Kamdesh or Korengal Valley. Im sure you know that Lone Survivor is pure propaganda, but if you haven’t I recommend you read the contents of this site, http://www.darack.com/sawtalosar/ which details what really happened. Its too hard for the Pindo to believe, but yes an elite 4 man SEAL fireteam was nearly wiped out by 8-10 at most of Ahmad Shah’s men, not 100+ like Marcus Luttrel claims.
As much as woke leftists outside and within the military try to deny it, yes today’s woke US military is a joke and the vast majority of the good, experienced troops left after their first or second enlistment, leaving behind butt kissing NCOs that have never deployed. I’ve seen the quality of these newer guys and I am confident that the PLA and Russian Forces would steamroll over them if a hot confrontation happens.
Sorry, its just difficult as I am sick of the bigotry, the hypocrisy, the lies against my kind. But I will be as civil as I can here, as this site is excellent and most commenters are sane level headed people!
Dear Dongfeng81
Please keep in mind that most of us here share your frustration and feelings.
Please try to be a civil as possible, I know that this is hard, I also lash out when the trolls get to me…
We are all human, and being subjected to ugliness (bigotry, hypocrisy and lies) is very hard.
Our moderators are trying very very hard and their job is very difficult, but the crazies do show up, they often don’t even bother reading the article, they are “set off” just by the mention of words like COVID, China, Communism and many others.
Think of a Bell Curve and see that the sane and educators will always be outnumbered by, let’s call it nicely, the left side of the Bell Curve.
So it is an uphill battle for sure, but you are not alone and we will try hard to minimize the influence of the crazies.
Kind regards
Andrei
@ The Saker
This is one of the biggest reasons why I read most articles and comments here and would recommend this site to anyone that is also sick of the MSM propaganda.
Though there are those that still don’t believe in a Sino-Russian alliance I am still all for it, as I also support Russia and won’t stand for Russophobia either.
At least I still see how things are going and can sleep knowing that everyday USUKA is getting closer and closer to its eventual demise.
Thank you!
Very good analysis. Still, I don’t see what benefit the US/west would get out of open hostilities with China. Seems like this would be a situation everyone would want to avoid.
Two things can motivate them:
1) despair (if we go to hell, let the world join us)
2) distraction (a big war unites people and distracts them the evil from their own rulers)
3) stupidity (inadvertently waltzing into a war)
4) narcissistic arrogance (we can get away with whatever the fvck we want)
Cheers
Partially off-topic, but
“They can also look at modern Japan and see what true Anglo domination can do to a ancient and noble culture.”
At what point do you think the ancient and noble Anglo-Saxon culture self-imploded? Norman (Frankish!) invasion of 1066? 1607 and genocidal colonization in the Americas? Manifest Destiny? Or were the Saxons always rotten, right down to Hengist and Horsa?
I am sorry, but I am not qualified to express any opinions on that.
And when I speak of the “Anglosphere” I mean that linguistically, not historically.
And,
OF COURSE!
I do not blame every English speaker on the planet or even those who live in the US/UK/CAN/AUS/NZ for anything.
I will say that I don’t believe that there is ANY “rotten” ethnicity or nation on earth. Individual people can be rotten, and they can mislead the innocent.
Even the Franks (for whom I have a very strong dislike for their quasi genocidal destruction of the Western Roman Empire had very GOOD people amongst them, including saints!) are not a “rotten people” in my mind.
Cheers
@Anonymous (the one who asked): “At what point do you think the ancient and noble Anglo-Saxon culture self-imploded?”
A question that was often asked by two English Roman Catholic Communist writers more than a century ago — GK Chesterton and H.Belloc. Their answer: It began when Roman Britain became German Britain (Saxons, Angles and Norsemen) around 1000AD; the Germans being an ethnic group notoriously outside the Roman sphere of culture and inimical to Rome. The definitive break came when Germany went Protestant (more anti-Rome) and Henry 8 saw this Protestantism as a chance to enrich himself and his cronies by seizing Church Lands: “No Roman priest shall tax and tithe in my dominians”. The Tudor Reign of Terror installed an Oligarchy of Large Landowners who became stronger than the Throne. Their agent Oliver Cromwell, who himself belonged to the wealthy landowner class, brought in Jewish bankers from Holland (another Germanic ethnic group). Anglo-Dutch-Jewish money-men brought in Dutch Billy and his army from Holland; who took over the throne of England by year 1700. The Dutch East India Company navy fought the English East India Company navy for global rule over maritime trade routes to Asia, Africa and America. The English Navy beat the Dutch navy, but Anglo Zio Capitalists beat both countries. Today the AZC rule not only the Germanic parts of Europe (England, Netherlands and Scandinavia) but also the Roman Lands (Italy, Iberia, France, Austria) plus America, Africa and a large part of Asia. I doubt there is any significant difference between Latin and Germanic countries today, as regards power structure: they all obey the AZC.
Meanwhile, Anglo Zio Capitalism itself has changed. The AZC has withdrawn its capital from investment in productive infrastructure (Industrial Capitalism) to investment in rent collection (Financial Capitalism). I think this is the cause of what you call “Anglo-Saxon self-implosion”: a hollowing out of the so-called Protestant Work Ethic.
Probably the Norman invasion, with it’s split level society and aristocratic memes, was the start of the problem
US does’n need or want an all out war with China. Just provoke some incidents at sea – Malacca strait comes to mind – and oil flow will be disrupted and/or become incredibly expensive. It is not a war proper, but China cannot live whith it, and has not an easy answer to it unless escalating somewhere else. And the aussie subs can be just a ruse to station “leased” US there.
“The US cannot control the Chinese Internet…”
It might not be able to control it but it’s interesting to consider what the cyber-warfare capabilities of the big international actors are. We don’t really have much of an idea about this (it’s not like counting troops, bombers, subs, etc…) but the implications are potentially huge and could decisively swing a full-spectrum conflict. I imagine the US holds an advantage in this area at present and may do for some time.
Dear Andrei:
As always you are very accurate on your analysis; so in the name of dialectic thinking, let me comment a bit on your appreciations.
You are right the chinese are a little behind on their strategic bombers and their aircraft engines. However that is changing very quickly. A few days ago, in the chinese air festival, they just presented their newest fighters propelled, for the first time, with chinese made jet engines instead of the usual russian powerplants. I understand that the new locally built motors do give them a “supercruise” capability. That indicates how fast things are getting even in the air.
About the chinese space program, let us remember the chinese landed in the “dark side” of the moon, and televised it live! That means that they also managed to place some satellite in moon orbit in order to make that transmission. It was a paramount event.
And finally, let me just add that Artificial Intelligence is the new break through technology as Mr. Putin himself stated a few months ago (something in the line of: “the one who controlls AI will control the future world”, sorry I don’t have the exact quote). The Chinese are today arguably the leaders in that field; as well as in quantum computing. And they are the country with more supercomputers, I understand.
Thank you for your great work, and warm greetings.
It is all absolutely true.
You are spot on!
Thank you
I believe the ‘casus belli’ will be Taiwan, the Empire will possibly try to induce a Maidan-like scenario in Taipei and put a ledge between the Mainland and the island the most Chinese people consider part of their national territory. What China will do in that case? Has China the military capability to organise a landing operation and take Taiwan by force? What price can afford to pay in term of loss human lives and material destructions? Or maybe China will try to get its own “Crimea” by seizing the control few strategic islands currently under taiwanese sovereignty like the Pratas, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu? I would much appreciate to know the Saker opinion about this possible scenario.
Taiwan IS Chinese national territory in international law. There is no doubt about that and it cannot be changed by repeating ad nauseam the phrase meant to cast doubts ‘most Chinese people consider part of their national territory’. China will do what has to be done in case that a province of China declare secession. It can simply organize the arrest of the rebels.
Two ancient Chinese proverbs s÷orth to remember:
(1) “Of the 36 strategems (advised in ancient military manuals) the best is to escape” . I.E: The one who runs away, lives to fight another day. (sanshiliu-ji, shang.ji wei zou)
(2) “Three stinking cobblers (leather-workers) may outwit a Zhūgé’ Liàng” ( Zhūgé’ Liàng was the master strategist and tachtician during the tree Kingdoms at the end of the Hàn dynasty, around 220 A.D: In the original: “Sānge chòu píjiàng, néng yādǎo yíge Zhūgé’ Liàng”
I can’t imagine any viable scenario for an attack on China that is not suicide for AUKUS. And other than AUKUS I can’t think of any candidate for suicide.
why do anything? China needs do nothing except defend it’s established borders and keep doing business with Taiwan. Let others throw noise and hand wringing about, ‘something must be done’, when in fact nothing does. The more the crazies act crazy, the more the Taiwanese will think China is the right ally for the future.
Greetings dear Andrei,
Thank you so much for this sitrep, it is most appreciated!
19 days ago when our friend Yun Lin made that dramatic announcement about Evergrande and China’s new approach to the West, I was so stressed and wanted to ask you but felt it would be imposing, but here it is now!
You added to my stress!!!!
▪︎ You are most correct, and I feel the time pressure is becoming unbearable for them – as you noted above in a comment: [𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙕𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙨’] 𝙐𝙎𝘼 𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙤𝙣𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙚𝙖𝙧 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙚𝙙.
This is the ongoing dilemma of the parasite which has to be factored in.
Plus as you also say, the technological leaps by China indicate it is a ““now or never” situation” before they become more than a peer, like Russia.
So where does the parasite use the remaining juice from a dying USA?
The more I think about it, and reflect on recent moves, it appears they will go BIG and expend the final effort from their USA host on the superpowers of Russia and China.
As those are linked now, attacking one means attacking both.
Remember, these are the same crazies from the basement that believe in concepts such as “Shock and Awe.”
China/Russia are just too big, powerful & numerous to risk being still standing when the USA host finally croaks.
Israel would not have a chance against either of them and this would set them back at least another century for their century-long efforts towards Pax Judaica in the tiny occupied Palestine.
Some say these are merely continuing efforts from a millennium ago during the original crusades, perhaps inspired by same demons!
So the USA’s last hurrah is coming soon.
Then the parasite plans to take on Iran itself afterwards or simultaneously when big powers are busy with each other.
▪︎ Additionally I agree (being cowardly bullies) they see China as softest/most palatable target for now, being check-mated in Europe by Russia and in the Middle East by the Resistance.
But China has foreseen this, and planned well, and as you said Russia cannot let China fall, so there are alliances waiting to be triggered.
So we wait for the modern equivalent of a “Gavrilo Princip,” if he really was behind that famous false flag.
▪︎ Do you not think these moves in SCS are largely a feint by AZs?
More to enrage the Chinese and have them shoot the first shot?
In more honest days, Montgomery said Rule 2 of war was not to fight a land war in China.
That and 1,000 war gaming has revealed the futility of fighting within the first island-chain, so I would think the plan is a stand-off missile shooting war?
And as such, weather/war start timing would not be much of issue? Is this technically feasible now? Could we thus possibly see a “Guns of October” from these madmen?
best Regards,
Interesting point about the Chinese not having a warrior culture. Was watching some YouTube channels comparing recent commercials for military recruitment from the US, Russia, China, and the UK. Maybe some revealing consistent themes? What I noticed, with links to videos afterward.
American and UK commercials are based on personal development. Like the purpose of the military was to implement Maslow’s step of Self-actualization . Be all you can be. Join the UK military because they don’t give you shit about being gay. In US find your personal journey being the daughter of a Lesbian couple (and run a useless Patriot missile battery).
The Russian ones hard to interpret, but definitively, fight because you are one badass. Did the Russian video actually have uniforms harking back to WWII??
The Chinese one linked below has to be the best. It shows men saying good bye to family members. In one scene a wife cries for her husband away and serving. What the prelude to the fireworks is showing the reason for joining the military. It is to protect the family and nation. Saw a Canadian video on their special forces, and never once tried to give any higher level justification for joining. It seems to me the Chinese video makes sacrifice more important than personal development. There is a higher purpose which involves family, party, ethnicity, and nation.
Links
Army Recruitment Ads: Russia vs USA vs China vs Britain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZskbZKtI9k&t=323s
Best Chinese video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_qr-4AKM18
Canadian music video for no purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWYlgl_6x4
The moral of the story. China is developing a warrior culture. They have a reason to fight. Do the Western powers have any reason to fight? Many of the videos show Western forces bombing and fighting in foreign lands. Enough of a purpose to fight? Advantage Chinese home team.
The Xiong Nu and Rou Ran would probably disagree about the Chinese not having a warrior culture. Unfortunately they will be incapable of explaining this though, they no longer exist as cultures.
The Chinese first try to avoid war, then they try appeasement and trade, as a last resort they send a 1.2 million man army onto your doorstep and pronounce your country a Chinese province. The protection of infrastructure is paramount in Chinese military tactics, it makes it easier to rule and gain economic benefit afterwards. Very few workers care who rules them as long as the rulers are fair but destroyed infrastructure makes for a restless occupation.
China has always had a warrior culture. What makes it different, imho, is that the warrior culture was subservient to the needs of the state, and most often used intelligently, not allowed to run rampant around the planet stomping on other peoples just because it could.
The reason why the East Wind will prevail over the West Wind (as Mao Tse-Tung formulated it) is that virtue is cultivated in the East, both in the Socialist ethic as well as in the Confucian ethic. Virtue benefits the family, the community, the nation. In the Anglo-Saxon world we find the “virtue of selfishness”. There is even a book with that title by a self-styled philosopher who was widely read by students a number of decades back. Individualism has become corroded, as have the infrastructure and the pork barrel politics serving the defence industry. Neo-liberalism does not work. Also, the historian Arnold Toynbee, abridged by D. C. Somervell, talks about “resting on one’s oars” (in today’s context consumerism) and the “idolization of the ephemeral past” (in today’s context that past is the period of maximum power between WWII and the Korean War). America is but wealthy, and what it says rings hollow and that is not good for America.
All great points, Saker.
I would add that China needs to strengthen allies and trading partners on its periphery. The NED is busy wrecking Myanmar, trying to wreck Thailand and Malaysia and failing in Laos and Cambodia. The empire doesn’t stop and it will make countries react. China will have to provide more security for the BRI, especially throughout the “stans.” Resistance governments need to put out clear messages like: anyone taking NED/Soros/Ford/Rockefeller money is a traitor and will be dealt with accordingly. US NGOs and Silicon Valley are the equivalent of enemies in previous wars laying communication lines behind your front lines.
Free speech? Try talking about Zionized US politics and media or Ivermectin on Youtube or Facebook.
China will definitely win. Like the Art of war says: Morale.
China will have 1.4billion citizens totally behind her: the 2nd coming of the 100 yr humiliation suffered under the west and their alliances are not to be underestimated.
The Chinese people would welcome this opportunity to give it back, not the Chinese gov but the people. They won’t start the fight, as we all know the Chinese are forever the pragmatists and diplomats. But if US stupidly brought the fight to them, they will drop everything and give whatever they have.
The US population? Lol War weary after 2 decades in the Middle East.
Poke the dragon at their own peril.
An aspect that has not been dealt with in the above text is China`s power projection in other countries around the globe (Venezuela, Bolivia, Angola, Cuba, you_name_it) both economically (buying local infrastructure, arable land and commodities) and military (Afghanistan, Venezuela, Iran, Cuba? [the revolt in Cuba ended a bit mysteriously don’t you think?]).
I live in Brazil and some citizens here have been reporting via Whatzapp and YTube videos a huge movement of military equipment since the end of August and personnel towards the Bolivian, Colombian and Venezuelan borders, besides radar equipment and other in the Northeast. The Brazilian Higher Military staff seem a bit unrested and preparing for something in the short/median term. This has been really unreported in both domestic and foreign press… but if you search Brazilian social media you’ll come up with videos like this one from 17th September 2021 :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLzDCD8gc0g
People are making this kind of footage BECAUSE it is unprecedent to see this type and level of massive military equipment and personnel trolling in Brazilian roads. Most comments are from people wondering if there is going to be a war or if something is going to happen.
Bolsinaro may have some plan to rescue his political fortunes involving martial law. He has been threatening something, hasn’t he? Whatever they are doing may be with U.S. permission.
Brazil may be preparing to threaten Bolivia and Venezuela, which are both nations on America’s hit-list.
Brazilian military aggression those 2 nations–at least in terms of Brazil special forces–should not be ruled out.
Brazil is nothing more than one of America’s gangster enforcers in South America.
On the use of moral values on matter of projection of empire power:
«The search for power is not made for the achievement of moral values ; moral values are used to facilitate the attainement of power». Nicolas Spykman ( America’s Strategy in World Politics,)
Dear Saker,
“From the Anglo point of view, this means that it is a “now or never” situation, lest China accomplishes what Russia did between 2000 and 2021, which they might.”
You have one word wrong here. Might should be Will!
This is off-topic. Please take to the Cafe – any further will go to trash. Mod
https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1444692652730077184
New restrictions from Azerbaijan for Iranian trucks on the occupied Goris-Kapan road.
In addition to paying $300 for the right to cross the Goris-Kapan route, Iranian cars must cross the desired road during the day and will not be allowed to cross the route at night.
https://twitter.com/301_AD/status/1445077687287099402
Aliyev purposefully shows off Israeli-made IAI Harop Kamikaze attack drones amid tensions with Iran.
https://infoteka24.ru/2021/10/05/88847/
The Turkoman commander of the Sultan Murad division of the Syrian National Army (SNA) Fahim Isa posted on Twitter a note that after Bashar al-Assad they will turn Syria into a Turkic-speaking country
and an old one to remember:
How ISIS Oil Flows Through Turkey And Israel On Its Way To Europe
https://www.mintpressnews.com/211910-2/211910/
Keep trusting this Ottoman headchopers allied with the z i o s and keep selling them S-400….
It is a trap for China to use force on Taiwan but if they don’t then they risk Taiwan formally seceding and this may compel China to act.
If China does use force to take Taiwan then it may well be the case that the US won’t (despite what they have stated) actually defend Taiwan. Maybe the US will use China’s aggression to isolate China and start a new cold war – this is likely to be much more effective than assumed (propaganda and arm-twisting being major US/west strengths).
What can China do to demonstrate military resolve but, also, not actually invade Taiwan? If I was China and was left with no option but to use military force, I would not invade Taiwan. Instead, I would take the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands in the name of China and Taiwan Province and state that it is the intention that Taiwan Province will be responsible for the administration of the Diaoyu Islands. This move would be extremely popular with the population of both China and Taiwan, easy to justify as China have very good claims to the islands, expose the US/west as empty vessels (what are they gonna do? go to war over unoccupied islands which should really belong to China anyway?), bring the day of China and Taiwan unity closer and all with very little loss of a singe life (perhaps, no loss of life at all).
I don’t believe Rockefeller and Company would ever allow the US military to attack China at least with any sort of attempted death blow. Of course there are a number of powerful interests that need to be satisfied in the short term and among them the military industrial complex (MIC). Cold War 2.0 does satisfy the MIC to some degree by stimulating spending but I still believe all Anglo-Zionist agendas converge on another conflict in the ME.
I speculate US military advisers would be pointing toward the ME, and CIA would say on the back of a false flag event so the US and its allies don’t look like the aggressors and the Zionist would see greater Israel and the death of Arabs and the globalists plans for a China centrist NWO would be as safe as they could be.
I believe the US administration will ultimately convince themselves that the Middle East Hail Mary Pass is the “winnable war” under which the west could unite against a common enemy and reestablish Anglo dominance. The US military advisors would also likely give advice that should they need to resort to nukes on the Arabian Peninsula it’s the scenario which has the least collateral damage (lives, arable land, infrastructure and water) but ultimately the clincher they would say is it sends a message to China much like Hiroshima was a message for Russia.
I do agree with you Andrei that the US is running out of time to make their play and that all the signs are that they doomed to fail in what ever attempt they make.
We should however keep an open mind, perhaps we’re not being imaginative enough and in desperation they’ll fake an Alien Invasion or perhaps they will lock us in our homes, restrict our movements and force us to take what ever they decree to such an extent the difference between China rule under CCP and “Western Democracy” will become immaterial.
As an aside it’ll be interesting to see how Japan handles their foreign policy in the future, as a quasi ally of the declining US and given the history between China and Japan they are in a very precarious position.
U.S. Troops Have Been Deployed in Taiwan for at Least a Year https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-troops-have-been-deployed-in-taiwan-for-at-least-a-year-11633614043?mod=hp_lead_pos6
To shift focus slightly – away from militarism.
A few points that have not been mentioned – Taiwan’s economic entanglement with China – i.e. If China were to nationalize all Taiwanese company assets on the mainland ( Foxconn ) that possibility may cause Taiwanese economic elites to moderate their rhetoric
The previous KMT governments were “one china” – ruled of course by KMT
Chinese spies in Taiwan’s security apparatus removes the element of uncertainty – i.e. China knows what to expect and can plan countermoves.
And this:
https://turcopolier.com/the-future-of-the-us-chip-industry-is-in-the-northeast-ttg/
Global Foundry is the world’s third largest chip maker and its Saratoga ( New York ) fab is its flagship and most advanced semiconductor manufacturing facility.
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At some point, our economic reasons for continuing to defend Taiwan will become moot.
A minor point – “circling the wagons” (against cavalry attacks) was an invention of the Hussites during the religious wars in Bohemia in the fifteenth century. Hussites were proto-Protestants, Jan Hus (illegally burned at the stake at the Council of Konstanz in 1400 despite the Holy Roman Emperor’s safe-conduct) was a preacher at the Galilee Chapel in Prague (restored by the Communists, incidentally). He had adopted some Lollard ideas from English monks sent to Prague to accompany the future bride of Richard II, Elizabeth of Bohemia, to London. Martin Luther acknowledged his debt to Hus.
I don’t think you can start to analyse Chinese responses to current developments without a more detailed knowledge of Chinese history, in particular China’s domination by neighbouring non-Chinese. Khitan, Jurchen and Mongol dynasties lasted from 907 to 1368; the last Chinese dynasty was the Ming (1368-1644) which fell to the Manchus in 1644, establishing the Qin dynasty. The Manchu were a Turanic people, and Chinese men and boys were required to wear their hair in a queue, Manchu males not (so that in the event of a revolt, Manchu soldiers would know who to decapitate). Manchu controlled the country by the occupying important posts in the mandarinate, but also occupying pseudo-miltary posts (“bannermen”) which in fact were tax-supported sinecures. Contemporary Chinese political commentators compare Jews in the US to Manchu in Qin China. As time went by the Manchu became increasingly sinified, but the Boxer revolt of ~1900 was as much anti-Manchu as anti-Western. The first treaty with a European country was the 1689 Treaty of Nerchinsk with Russia, where the main text was in Latin and subsidiary texts in (?Old) Russian and Manchu, which is written alphabetically. There is no Chinese text.
The disasters of the nineteenth century stem as much from solipsism and arrogance of the Manchu/Chinese elite as predatory Westerners. The growth and export of tea was a large part of the Chinese economy, but the idea of taking ships up the Yangtze to be loaded directly in the tea-growing areas was rejected out of hand, supposedly to save the jobs of the thousands of porters who carried the tea on their backs across mountain ranges to the south coast. Tea had to be paid for in silver, which was difficult for the British, the largest customer, to obtain during the Napoleonic wars. In a huge embassy (about 1000 people, including a string orchestra, and 600 chests of manufactured goods), Lord George Macartney tried to interest Qianlung, by then senile and besotted with a handsome young officer of the guard, in a normal trading relationship. Qianlungs response was “we have all things necessary for civilised life, and have no need for your ingenious manufactures”. A solution to the balance of payments crisis was found in opium, grown in India and transferred to Chinese intermediaries just outside Chinese waters. It is often asserted in American school textbooks that opium was illegal in Britain at the time: this is untrue, opium (often as its alcoholic tincture, laudanum) was a legitimate article of commerce, unregulated until the 1861 pharmacy act and legal until 1922. It was also, initially, legal in China, but a government monopoly in India. Commanders of Indian regiments commented that the opium indulgence of sepoys did far less harm to good order and discipline than the alcohol indulgence of British troops. Because of the concentration of opium sales to Manchu sinecure-holders, who had nothing to do all day, it was easy for British opinion to think that opium was only a threat to societies that had gone rotten.
During the Manchu dynasty, Chinese seem to have become a nation of sadistic foot-fetishists,as foot-binding (breaking the bones in a young girl’s feet, and tightly binding the foot so that it grew small and like a pig’s trotter) took hold among the prosperous wanting to find a good match for their daughters. Victims couldn’t walk unaided, and were in continual pain. The Manchu did not bind their daughters’ feet. The low status of women in “old” China makes Mao’s Thought “Women hold up half the sky” excuse many of the horrors he inflicted .
Japanese interactions with Europe and the West were very different, as a much less self-indulgent elite, after narrowly escaping Spanish colonisation, interacted with the West on Japanese terms. Japanese culture is only as old as English, Zen missionaries arriving in Japan around 500-700 AD. Zen Buddhism was the religion of the samurai elite, the common people holding to a traditional paganism, Shinto, according to which every object, including people, was associated with a spirit, a kami. The translation “god” is hostile, since kami are mortal: even more hostile is the translation of “arahitogami”, a person who is also a kami, such as the emperor, as “god”.
Portuguese Jesuits made the first contact with the Japanese, and Ignatius Loyola was loud in their praise (” The finest pagans we have encountered. They prize honour to a marvel and are not malicious”), but after the conquest of Portugal by Spain in the mid-sixteenth century, Portuguese Jesuits were replaced by Spanish Dominicans, who were aggressively focused on extending the Spanish empire. The story of how English and Dutch Protestant mariners alerted the Shogun to the dangers of Spanish colonialism is well known, but Christian traces remained in Japanese culture even after most Christians had been killed or forced to apostasise. I was on study leave in Japan for three months, and I commented to my Japanese host on the similarity of the words for “thank you” in Portuguese and Japanese (obrigado/a and arigato). He was surprised, but came back to me and said that arigato was indeed a Portuguese loan word. Is this how the reciprocity of respect between inferiors and superiors in modern Japan (e.g. in business) got started? The original Zen model had superiors just accepting the sacrifices of their inferiors, but it seems the idea of graciousness by superiors to inferiors was a Christian import.
Throughout the period of the Tokugawa shogunate, contacts with Europe were maintained through the Dutch trading concession on Deshima in Nagasaki Bay. Books on science, technology, agronomy, water management, and medicine were favorites, and there arose a set of hereditary translators of Dutch – the Shogun’s censors permitted the publication of books on anatomy which contradicted Confucian orthodoxy. Translations were printed (as woodblocks, with the text in hiragana rather than more complex kanji), and circulated widely.
When Western approaches became intrusive in the middle of the nineteenth century, the elite knew what to expect. The discovery that Western seamen, on an ample diet of salt pork and ship’s biscuits, equipped with mass-produced cutlasses, could outfight samurai with exquisite spiritualised swords and years of training, made the end of the shogunate (“shogun” is a contraction of the Japanese for “great barbarian-subduing general”) inevitable. The emperor (“tenno”), in Kyoto only the high priest of Shinto, moved to Edo (now Tokyo) and became titular head of government. In some senses Meiji was the last Enlightenment absolute monarch – on his enthronement he swore an oath inn five articles, number four reading “evil customs of the past shall be broken off, and everything ordered according to the just laws of Nature”.
Since about 1900 interaction between Japan and “the West” has been in both directions, from Tolouse Lautrec’s copying Utamaro to the recent Japanese invention of low-energy white light sources (light emitting diodes, LED). The idea that “anglos” have destroyed an ancient noble culture is completely wrong – in fact modern Japan, with its courtesy, efficiency, self-motivated social discipline (with the consequence that police will merely advise you not to make the same mistake again if you break regulations), and general good nature reminded me of a cleaner, more efficient version of the 1950’s Britain in which I grew up.
Perhaps Japanese aggression in the second quarter of the twentieth century comes from a (deserved) sense of superiority to the “delinquent elder brother” China, and a very ill advised attempt by Hirobumi Ito, later Prime Minister, to combine Shinto and Zen Buddhism, which were adjuncts to daily life, rather than motivations, into a religion of national exceptionalism, Kokutai. It was one thing to believe that Chinese are the moral, intellectual, and civilisational inferiors to Japanese, but to convert this to the three alls (kill all, loot all, burn all) required Kokutai.
Ito had studied constitutional law in Vienna, and in “Kaisertreu”, the mystical loyalty of the Habsburg common soldiers to their emperor. we can perhaps see the origin of Kokutai. The Buddhist samurai had a very demanding code of loyalty and self-sacrifice in Bushido, the way of the warrior, but this only applied to samurai. Ito seems to have crossed Kaisertreu with Bushido and got a universal national religion of self-sacrifice. (“kaze” means “strong wind, gale”, so “kamikaze” means “divine gale”, a reference to the gale which destroyed a Mongol invasion fleet in the thirteenth century)
Ito’s ideas were worked over by philosophy professors at Imperial universities, and the result was a pamphlet, “Kokutai no Hongi” which was intended to govern the teaching of everything. Almost all copies in Japan were destroyed between the 1945 surrender and the arrival of American occupation forces, but a decade or so ago copies emerged in expatriate Japanese communities in South America. It is as barking as you might expect
Wow, as the saying goes, you’ve probably forgotten way more than most Westerners will ever know about Chinese civilisation. Yet our buffoons who masquerade as thinkers and leaders presume to know how those people with such a long independent and accomplished history should live their lives and, of course, take orders from us. It’s a pity that the things you know are not appreciated nor much utilised in our society and, like all else, will be lost, perhaps to be laboriously regained by others who follow, perhaps not, because of this confounding mortality which entraps us all.