By Godfree Roberts from his extensive weekly newsletter with further up to date editorial notes:
We start off with the Three Gorges Dam, a Wild Party in Wuhan and the always logical Nathan Rich with some views on Pompeo’s ‘clean networks’.
We now see filtering through the Chinese media some news on the Three Gorges Dam as a result of a major flooding in China.
News is widely available but let’s look at 2 headlines and this all is happening currently:
Three Gorges Dam to confront largest-ever flood through coordination with upstream dams https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1198199.shtml
The dams will sufficiently exert the flood defense function of a cascade reservoir within the basin, and are expected to ease the flood defense pressure for Southwest China’s Sichuan Province and Chongqing Municipality, as well as the Three Gorges project, according to the statement.
It is estimated the inflow water peak will be cut down to 68,000 cubic meters per second from 70,000, the Xinhua News Agency reported on Wednesday.
Three Gorges Dam to face historic flood peak https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1198254.shtml
The Three Gorges Reservoir is set to receive the largest flood peak since it was built in 2003, but experts noted that despite extreme weather conditions, China is better-prepared to minimize the impact of any natural disaster.
The latest hydrometeorological forecasts estimated the inflow flood peak of the Three Gorges project will reach 74,000 cubic meters per second at 8 am on Thursday, the largest volume since it was built in 2003.
So for the engineers in our midst, that is a start of looking at the massive consequences of the floods in China. What it looks like to my untrained eye, is that if that dam is going to break, China is now right in the middle of the most dangerous period. Just wait for the scary stories from the western media and western alt. media on this one.
In combination with the massive flooding of farmland, the leftovers of the economic impact of Covid-19, China has started a massive campaign of internal frugality. More to come in the coming weeks.
The Wuhan goes Wild electronic pool party.
This is heartening news and stands as evidence that the Covid Age Can End.
After 79 days of brutal and strict quarantine, and a slow period of coming out of that first focusing on getting the economic engines restarted, and 3 months of no new cases, Wuhan is partying There is no sign of social distancing, masks or any other signs of protection against Covid-19 – only music and play in the waterpark. Wuhan’s lockdown began to ease in March and was officially lifted on April 8. Neither the city nor Hubei province have reported locally transmitted cases of Covid-19 for three months, and officials declared the city free of the virus after testing 10 million of the city’s residents in June.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1198239.shtml
To complete the editorial section, Nathan Rich on Pompeo’s ‘crazy talk’.
From Godfree’s newsletter which you can find here:
The indications that China is content to decouple from the United States, are becoming clear, or is it? What they would dearly love to see, is a normalized trade relationship with the US and none of the special agreements.
U.S.-China Decoupling: Separating Myth From Reality
“Chip design in China advanced much faster than most US observers expected in the past few years, and I think semiconductor fabrication will also advance quickly in the future. Fabs are huge, complex infrastructure investments, which they tend to do well. (According to Goodrich, 60 fabs under construction right now in China.) I also expect them to be good at fine-tuning the production process, pulling in engineering talent from Taiwan and S. Korea as necessary. The most difficult technology hurdle will be the advanced lithography machines that still depend on US and European intellectual property.” [MORE]
The Plan, The Future
China sees blockchain alongside artificial intelligence, 5G and the Internet of Things, quantum computing, and cloud computing as a strategic technology that will drive growth and productivity in the years to come and hence an area where it would like Chinese companies to set the standards and dominate globally. Chinese policies to promote these frontier technologies:
- Leveraging the vast internal market, with significant public investments in both basic R&D and market-enhancing policies (such as public procurement policies).
- Dominating export markets through development finance institutions like the China Development Bank and the China Export-Import Bank to drive innovation and growth.
- Initiatives like the China Standards 2035 (and earlier Made in China 2025) that aim to help Chinese companies set global technical standards in standard-setting bodies like the 3GPP and ITU. For blockchain, in April, China launched its National Blockchain and Distributed Accounting Technology Standardization Technical Committee.
Part of this future is delisting from the NY stock exchange
China has a longstanding dispute over US regulators’ access to audits of US-listed Chinese companies. The disagreement is between China’s securities watchdog CSRC, and America’s PCAOB. China will not allow PCAOB inspections of the audits of its SOEs. As US finance becomes less important to China, expect more Chinese companies to de-list from Wall Street and float on the Shanghai-Hongkong-Shenzen market. [MORE]
I’m sorry, I cannot agree with Godfree Roberts that China is good guys and always honor make ‘win-win’ deal with other countries. Due to China imperialism agenda in the SCS right now with its ‘buddy’ relationship with US since 1940s, how can you and other can assume that China is good guy right now?
By the way, I have to share my own personal opinion to you guys about Nathan Rich:
Based on my life experience, Nathan Rich is an inferiority complexity due his super highly messed up childhood and teenage life in the US with the ‘Church of Science’ thing. I suspect that his inferiority complexity on his former country US is truly same to those inferiority complexity Vietnamese on Vietnam. Nathan Rich seem truly want to become Chinese and he is right now protect his new motherland China. So in conclusion, Nathan Rich is Chinese right now and he speaks about Chinese like a Chinese citizen who is being so un-criticize on their own government due to the propaganda.
If you want to understand how and why we Vietnamese never trust China, read this:
‘China literacy’: Vietnam’s key to combating COVID-19
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/08/10/commentary/china-literacy-vietnam-coronavirus/
Even some or many African begin not to trust China right now:
Watch: Why China Is Taking Over African Countries Desperately | Voicetv Nigeria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Bt_UXohcQ&feature=emb_title
Yes, China has done Africa wrong also they are not celebrating the first Wuhan pandemic. By China’s own standards they are not on a ‘peaceful rise’.
I only have time for a few grievances today.
The Wuhan virus isn’t the only pandemic to come from China
By Christopher F. RufoMay 13, 2020 | 8:27pm
https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/the-wuhan-virus-isnt-the-only-pandemic-to-come-from-china/
excerpt: But Wuhan is also the source of another deadly epidemic, long predating COVID-19: American fentanyl overdoses.
Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, has quickly become America’s most dangerous drug. In 2018, fentanyl killed 31,897 people in the United States, more than twice the number felled by any other narcotic. Just two milligrams, enough to cover Lincoln’s beard on a penny, can prove fatal. In the past five years, it has devastated hundreds of US communities, particularly in the Northeast and Midwest.
California-Wow this is better than the bombs the US uses and sneakier.
The Chinese readily admit their involvement in this new fentanyl “Opium War” and the new opium “Opium War”. They are killing many Americans every day during their “peaceful rise”. Their fentanyl involvement is all over google, I won’t pull those references. The following is less known.
Chinese National Guilty of Laundering Millions for Mexican Drug Cartels
A Chinese national pleaded guilty today to conspiracy to commit money laundering in connection with laundering more than $4 million in drug proceeds generated by large-scale cocaine trafficking in the United States.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-national-guilty-laundering-millions-mexican-drug-cartels
In 1831, the Chinese emperor, already angry that opium traders were breaking local laws and increasing addiction and smuggling, discovered that members of his army and government (and even students) were engaged in smoking opium.
In the original Opium Wars Lin Zexu, a very capable and ambitious Chinese government official, argued that the opium trade was a moral issue, and an “evil” that had to be eliminated by any means possible.
https://asiapacificcurriculum.ca/learning-module/opium-wars-china
California- When China admitted and confessed to now being the pusher with all it aggressive, war like, immoral, evil death and destruction, many times of children, they in their own words admitted that they are not on a peaceful rise. Like I said sneaky and this is how China is able to get away with bride trafficking.
The Chinese public is not widely aware of bride trafficking. Since Xi Jinping came to power in 2012, the government has tightened its grip on the media and the internet. Speaking critically of the government has often resulted in police harassment and arrest. Combined with a continuing crackdown on women’s rights activists and civil society groups, it has become increasingly difficult for them to raise awareness and assist victims.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/10/31/chinas-bride-trafficking-problem
China is being called on their loans so hopefully they will forgive some debt.
“The increasing debts of countries like South Africa and Kenya drive them into debt as Kenya’s debt to China increased from $1 billion in 2013 to $5,2 billion in 2017. … “China’s ‘debt trap’ strategy is not in favour of African nations in the middle and long term while it will enable China to yield massive profit.Dec 13, 2019
How China’s debt trap diplomacy works and what it means
http://www.trtworld.com › Africa
https://www.trtworld.com/africa/how-china-s-debt-trap-diplomacy-works-and-what-it-means-32133#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20increasing%20debts%20of%20countries,%245%2C2%20billion%20in%202017.&text=%E2%80%9CChina's%20'debt%20trap'%20strategy,China%20to%20yield%20massive%20profit.
There is at least one Russian here who use the word “imperialists” when referring to China. Yes, there is something wrong with this peaceful China picture.
@California
In the café of July 26th, you provided a similar Pindo litany about Russia, followed up here by one on China. As I pointed out, it’s always pleasurable listening to suchlike noise against the backdrop of serious, irreversible societal rot which is now engulfing the entire US. I hope there will be more Pindo contributors here to explain the horrid victimization of poor little innocent US. Proves the dexterousness of the Russian and Chinese leaderships superbly.
@California
All I can about Africa is the old maxim “believe half of what you see and non of what you hear”. I could write a long essay but I am brain tired and burning out.
BRI in Africa is being sabotaged by the usual suspects. You mention Kenyan debt as an example, ok, let’s talk Kenya.
Fraudulent elections were held in 2018 where the incumbent was thoroughly defeated. Guess what happened? He was the West bastard. John Kerry (yeah I know, he was already out of power) and the diplomatic community forced the country to accept rigged elections despite massive protests that had to be quelled by the military and not police. A second election was called which was boycotted by the opposition because the conditions that led to the first elections rigging had not been addressed. Chris Msando was the election IT systems manager who had sole access to change those election results electronically. He refused all blackmail till right before the election, he was killed and his finger cut-off to allow biometric access to the system. On election night, the procedures on the ground could not allow any rigging since each centre had every parties representative there and after counting the ballots transparently, each member recorded the tally for each outcome and before the approved form could be sent to the electoral system, all would agree that the tally was correct. The rigging was clearly identified, when the results from form 34b which had the tally when added together became contrary to the presented results. The opposition candidate had won by over 4 million votes. Yet he lost. The results where blatantly changed. The opposition wanted this loop-hole of tally centre results integrity being maintained in the electoral systems. The incumbent refused. The opposition boycotted the second elections which the incumbent declared himself the winner.
Why the above story? BRI meets Neo-colonialism. The colonial railway network is still intact and still currently being used. It was deliberately made unprofitable through corruption in restricting its use in supply goods to the whole of the country and to neighbouring countries which are landlocked. The railway was restricted so that some companies would profit handsomely through road transportation despite railway being cheaper for the citizens. It was agreed that another railway line would be built to increase the capacity of both railway systems for BRI. The Chinese loaned and commenced construction of the railway system. It was completed a few years back.
Guess what happened? Through the usual arm- twisting gangster policies of the west, those two railway systems are restricted in use. Last time I read, they were only running two trains per day. Way uneconomical. So, the railway systems are restricted in conducting legitimate business and those incurring losses let alone servicing their loans to China. The politics seems to revolve around payback of the incumbent to the west for support as president, by hobbling BRI even to the detriment of the rest of the country.
Brief explanation completed.
@California – If you ask me, the western rubbishing of China is falling on keen ears. If one wants to understand China, you should start with Chinese material, and not western material
A bunch of msm links will of course tell you about the so-called debt-trap which is lingo invented only a little bit ago, as little as 13 months ago by some think tank fellow, to rubbish China.
The fentanyl story, mostly baloney. It takes somebody to buy it and ingest it. In the US, doctors prescribe and distribute the opioids and that is how the drug addiction started. There is no good medical oversight because the medical system is based on profit taking and not on health.
But, the western war on China is clearly effective. So, my question is if you want to know something, or do you just want to stay with your current level of education?
Business Daily Africa is an Nation Media Group publication. As you can see this debt trap has been around a long time.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/G20-derails-Kenya-push-for-China-debt-relief-deal/3946234-5590234-84e6u7z/index.html
This is CDC
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/opioids/fentanyl.html
And of course China
China Daily- I am at the border and the problem still exists so I hope they continue their efforts.
9 sentenced for fentanyl production, trafficking
By ZHANG YU in Xingtai, Hebei, and CUI JIA in Beijing | China Daily | Updated: 2019-11-08 03:35
[Photo/VCG]
The head of a Chinese fentanyl production and trafficking network targeting customers in the United States received a suspended death sentence at a court in Hebei province on Thursday, in the first criminal case involving opioids jointly investigated by the two countries.
The joint operation has proved effective and the two countries will continue to work together to stem the flow of fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, Chinese and US narcotics control officials said.
The bust of the drug trafficking network in China was led by information obtained by the US Homeland Security Investigations Office in New Orleans when a cooperating defendant provided the name and contact information of an individual in China from whom he had bought narcotics in August 2017, said Austin Moore, the US Department of Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement attache to China, at a news conference after the court hearing in Xingtai, Hebei province.
In September 2017, the US authority shared the information with the Ministry of Public Security’s Narcotics Control Bureau, and both sides agreed to coordinate in a joint narcotics investigation, Moore said.
Chinese police then connected the contact information with an employee of a biochemical company registered in Xingtai. The company turned out to be a distributor of fentanyl targeting foreign markets via the internet, including the US. The company used express mail or regular postal services to smuggle fentanyl abroad, said Yu Haibin, a senior narcotics control official with the Ministry of Public Security.
Police then tracked down the company’s supplier, Liu Yong, who began running a fentanyl lab in Changzhou, Jiangsu province, in May 2017, Yu said.
On Nov 6, 2017, the US side wired a payment to the biochemical company, prompting Chinese authorities to commence a series of raids that yielded an extraordinary number of arrests and seizures of contraband and criminal proceeds, Moore said.
On Thursday, Liu was sentenced in the Xingtai Intermediate People’s Court to death with a two-year reprieve for producing and trafficking 11.9 kilograms of fentanyl and other narcotics.
Jiang Juhua, co-founder of the laboratory, and Wang Fengxi, head of the biochemical company, received life sentences. Six other key members of the drug network also received fixed-term sentences ranging from six months to 10 years.
“During the investigation, we have provided information on more than 50 suspicious postal packages to the US authorities, which has led to three arrests so far. The case has set a good example of China and the US jointly fighting fentanyl-related crimes,” Yu said.
“As the success of this joint investigation demonstrates, Chinese and American investigators have the capacity to collaborate across international borders — bringing those who would harm our respective communities to justice. Today’s event is another important step,” said Moore.
Fentanyl is a highly potent pain reliever often used by cancer patients. It is 50 to 100 times stronger than morphine.
After the meeting between President Xi Jinping and US President Donald Trump at the G20 Summit in December, China agreed to list all fentanyl derivatives as controlled substances.
In May, China included 25 fentanyl analogues on the list of controlled substances, four more than the US. The move means that those who produce or distribute fentanyl can receive the maximum punishment for drug trafficking — death.
China has stepped up efforts to control fentanyl-related substances in recent years including enhancing international cooperation and cracking down on underground laboratories.
Deaths caused by fentanyl overdoses in the US surged to 31,600 in 2018 from 19,400 in 2016.
China should not be blamed for the problem of fentanyl abuse in the US, Yu said, adding that reducing demand is the only way to fundamentally tackle the issue.
Contact the writers at cuijia@chinadaily.com.cn
Does knowing something mean agreeing with you? Then, goodbye.
I think you are good but not in all things.
I think you’re falling for the current version of ‘weapons of mass destruction’.
/steve-bannons-gift/
There is a campaign on, you know.
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-anger-campaign-against-china/
if following your logic can the Chinese claim damages from the British for imposing opium on the Chinese population? This is karmic justice if you ask me, you live by the sword you die by the sword.
Of the 427 Chinese police death on duty in 2019, about 300 were drug fighting related. Drug trafficking is punished by death in China. Drug criminals were prepared to resist all they could.
As for fentanyl problem in the US, its it their problem to guard their borders? Otherwise, they should consider legalize it as the weed.
”Due to China imperialism agenda in the SCS right now with its ‘buddy’ relationship with US since 1940s, how can you and other can assume that China is good guy right now?”
It’s plain to see the China-bashers would benefit from some synopsizing. But what stands out here is, like in most other instances of hollow Western sloganeering, the assertion of what was to be proven — a Chinese imperialist agenda. Personally, I would feel elated to see something which fairly could be said to fit the description: The Chinese navy careering around mainland US destroying the coastal areas by heavy gun-fire followed by a deliberate massive boost in US opium addiction and, last but not least, a harsh war reparation to be paid on the spot.
I am not sure when and how the Vietnamese denial in their ancestry and deep distrust of Chinese come about throughout their history, considering both have the same ideology of communist regime, the Chinese came to their defense during American invasion, considering the amount of destruction and contamination of toxic agent orange etc on their land and water, I am puzzled by their current role of Judas, can some learned ones here enlighten me?
@Beatrice Teoh on August 19, 2020 · at 7:08 pm EST/EDT
Dear Sir/Ma’am:
1. You are stuffed on the the belief that ‘Vietnamese is Chinese’. In fact, according to our very old ancestor record (the non-censored one), we are not Chinese and never be. This ancestry thing about Vietnamese and Chinese is very controversy and I will explain in the simple way that we Vietnamese are the descendant of Bách Việt (Bai Yue in Chinese tongue, literally mean Hundred Việt). Bách Việt had many states, its territory originally included North Vietnamese and Liangguang (Guangdong, Guangxi, and Hainan island). Han had invaded Liangguang in the past and the only Việt states still remain is Âu Lạc and this North Vietnamese currently.
2. To me Vietnamese and Chinese from what I understand: Communism, Capitalism, Feudalism or any political system is just a big machine that is use to maintain peace, stable, and happy, good user then good machine and opposite. We Vietnamese don’t care about left wing or right wing, we care about Vietnam only, that all. I distrust China because China imperialism and opportunism historically nature.
3. You go full ‘what about it’ about US crime: China support Vietnam to keep North Vietnam alive only, China never wanted to help Vietnam to be unity in the past, that all. In fact, during Vietnam Resistance War Against US, China was truly crook and they had another agenda is invading the whole South East Asia in slow speed, do you ever suspect about the Chinese 5th column army in South East Asia countries right now? What about China support on Polpot and Mujahideen in the past?
regardless of propaganda points and hollywood perspectives, the ultimate measure is misery, destruction, death, and subversion throughout the world.
The USA is a Mafia state. China *is* the good guys.
Vietnamese might have sometimes a kind of insecure feeling being less valuable than US Americans and still (despite all the mess, brutality, bombs, devastating invasions inclusive pollution of air, soil and seas, murders etc. done by USA to other countries/people) to find USA better than Asian countries. This is not new as everything is tried to copy their (USA) society’s customs. There must have been some deep feeling of being to try to be like Americans, or like “white people” in general.
Nothing new. In some Asian countries women tried to make their skin “more white” with sometimes devastating and health damaging effects.
However, this too isn’t something new on our earth in history that people being invaded by foreign powers are trying to “copy” their invaders.
Are you talking about the Stockholm syndrome monnalisa?
to amarynth: something like this. It isn’t about sympathy to the invaders. Its more like feeling less worth and regarding the invaders as superior. This had been also the case in other Asian countries where for example the Netherlands invaded or “colonized” a country. Or some parts in India by the British Elite. Or in Namibia in Africa by the Germans.
However, for this problem I haven’t found a precise name.
Good comment.
monnalisa says: “Vietnamese might have sometimes a kind of insecure feeling being less valuable than US Americans and still (despite all the mess, brutality, bombs, devastating invasions inclusive pollution of air, soil and seas, murders etc. done by USA to other countries/people) to find USA better than Asian countries.”
Yes, add to that some jealousy of the success of Chinese economy, the conflicts in South China Sea, and some instigation/propaganda from western media/CIA, and you can understand many of their behaviors and anti-China feeling.
monnalisa says: “that people being invaded by foreign powers are trying to “copy” their invaders.”
The name for this is called “Stockholm syndrome”.
I am very surprised that seemingly noone out there seems to expect an imminent invasion of Taiwan by China.
Quite likely that I am missing the heart of the matter, but in the meantime, I look at the situation this way: The PRC has as its red line an overt secession by Taiwan. How then, I ask, can the PRC tolerate that an economic war on it is being waged by the US via the territory of Taiwan? How can it allow TSMC to end supplying Huawei at the orders of the US? Does allowing economic warfare by TSMC not amount to a de-facto recognition of Taiwan’s independence and the acceptance of Taiwan as an important part of the emerging anti-China coalition?
On the other hand, with this rather imperative excuse in hand for an invasion, or blockade – what would China gain, were it to act now (assuming a military success)? Control NOW over a global semi-conductor supply chain that is, in any case, bound to move away from Taiwan over the coming years. Why not seize it now? Taiwan will never be worth more.
To Guthman Bey;
Taiwan profits from China more than from USA. Trade between China and Taiwan is extremely big and intertwined and without China Taiwan would have financially a problem.
China regards Taiwan belonging to its mainland. However, it uses a “loose rein”.
Who wants to keep Taiwan a UD ally? The Taiwanese elite. Only. The people have no conscious say: it is brainwashing western style.
I meant US (in comment above).
Additionally, China won’t invade Taiwan. China plays according to International Law! Another reason China won’t invade Taiwan is because Taiwan is China!
You are right of course Lisa. The difference was pointed out to me once on the subway in Paris, when I referred to the Allied operation in Normandy 1944 as an invasion. A Frenchman turned around and sternly told me: “Non Monsieur! It was a landing, not an invasion.”
Errr… Rita not Lisa :)
Yes, but Taiwan is China. The situation is difficult to understand because the local elite has control of the government and western support, obviously.
There is a big, big difference between China and Western countries, especially USA:
those subdue other countries, give them the feeling being less worth than Western (usually ‘white’) people, binding on debt traps (see Western created bankers, lenders, like IMF etc. with special agreements) and most of all bombs, destruction of nature.
China is creating infrastructure. Usually USA destroys infrastructure with bombs in other invaded countries (streets, hospitals etc. see in this concern that they bombed in Afghanistan hospitals where the ‘Doctors without borders’ put a white flag outside onto the hospital to show that they are working in the hospital nevertheless USA bombed).
Therefore what should a country prefer: bombs or infrastructure ?
Much to my regret as an European I have to state that the whole Europe with its colonial way of thinking (mostly taken also from Romans) lost practical ways of thinking.
To have for a longer period of time trade with other countries other countries should be able to have enough infrastructure and trade possibilities. This the Romans understood extremely well: despite their disastrous regards for foreigners (Romans regarded themselves as superior) they built extremely good streets, trade centers, and not to forget cultural centers too as well as viaducts etc.). By this way they created for centuries basics for trade routes etc.
EU nowadays slowly starts to begin to look how China is doing trade with Africa. Also they lost too much time. USA uses Africa mostly as a “servant continent” inclusive medical trials (more or less devastating!!) in some African countries.
I think the big difference is visible:
USA up to date steals (see Syria for a present example with the oil)
China builds.
@Unorthodox Black Sheep VN on August 19, 2020 · at 2:01 pm EST/EDT
If you want to understand how and why we Vietnamese never trust China, read this
You Vietnamese never trust anybody — and they never trust you. As history shows, Vietnam’s relationships with ALL of its neighbors are usually very bad.
And of course, it’s always the other country’s fault, it’s never Vietnam’s fault. In 1964, the United Nations censured Vietnam’s invasion of Cambodia (see UN Security Council Resolution 189), though naturally the Vietnamese blamed the Cambodians. In 1978, Vietnam invaded Cambodia again — and of course it was Cambodia’s fault.
Perhaps Vietnam may even have been telling the truth on one or both occasions. My point, however, is that Vietnam’s sour relationships with all of its neighbors couldn’t always be the neighbor’s fault. The likelihood is that your country has well earned its local reputation for being very hostile and untrustworthy.
No, it was the Khmer Rouge which invaded and attacked Vietnam first in 1978. You also ignore China’s support for the Khmer Rouge which was committing genocide. It was Vietnam which essentially put a stop to the genocide, but because of the West’s and China’s help it was able to still exist in the west of Cambodia for many more years.
From Wikipedia:
Fearing a Vietnamese attack, Pol Pot ordered a pre-emptive invasion of Vietnam on 18 April 1978. His Cambodian forces crossed the border and looted nearby villages, mostly in the border town of Ba Chúc. Of the 3,157 civilians who had lived in Ba Chúc,[89] only two survived the massacre. These Cambodian forces were repelled by the Vietnamese.[90]
Due to several years of border conflict and the flood of refugees fleeing Kampuchea, relations between Kampuchea and Vietnam collapsed by December 1978. On 25 December 1978, the Vietnamese armed forces along with the Kampuchean United Front for National Salvation, an organization founded by Heng Samrin that included many dissatisfied former Khmer Rouge members,[31]: invaded Cambodia and captured Phnom Penh on 7 January 1979. Despite a traditional Cambodian fear of Vietnamese domination, defecting Khmer Rouge activists assisted the Vietnamese and with Vietnam’s approval became the core of the new People’s Republic of Kampuchea. The new government was quickly dismissed by the Khmer Rouge and China as a “puppet government”
The merging of state and corporate power is fascism. Trump and his regime and the democrats also are globalists with a new world order agenda. Globalists with fascist overtones. Look at the giant corporations being bailed out by the Fed. But little to nothing for the people.
The U.S. is continuing it’s new world order march and will be the world bully unless they will be stopped. And who is going to stop them?
to Craig Mouldey:
I think in some form – which one I really don’t know – it will be stopped because of money or through some money troubles. I mean anything which will be connected to money. It could be that the US state sooner or later will be out of money because any form of money spending has up to a point of no return no lender. Or the Dollar as a Trading World currency will run out because there isn’t any trust in it, or far too many countries don’t need it.
Whatever it will be usually there is a tipping point. To go over this point means a return to the previous state is not possible. And by this point those big companies are in trouble and will have to pay all the necessary taxes in countries they are trading.
Moreover, why is it that Western companies think that everything will last forever ??
Nothing lasts forever into eternity. Everything in our universe changes with time. Cultures, companies, states etc. Also our climate is changing rapidly.
This is the response for the ‘Vietnamese Stockholm Syndrome’ comments:
1. We Vietnamese does not have Stockholm Syndrome. The ‘pro-US anti-China’ attitude is the results of the Hollywood propaganda, oversea Vietnamese ‘bias’ view to their local relative, corruption of Vietnamese government, ignorant on their own history.
2. Before 2008, Vietnam is very anti-US and anti China. In 2014, Vietnam suddenly turn into pro-US especially the Vietnamese media. The pro-US Vietnamese even dare to delete or whitewash US and its allies war crime in Vietnam from the Vietnamese History.
3. The Absolutely Neutral Policy of Vietnam government has no correct direction right now. Its pragmatism behavior had many negative effects more than positive.
4. Many Vietnamese does not understand and know that the hate on China of the US and Western is not same to the hate on China of Vietnam.
5. There are still many Vietnamese like me anti both US and China and put them into the same ‘demon’ box. Unfortunately, there are also many ‘pro-US anti-China’ Vietnamese thank for the Hollywood propaganda, Vietnamese media ignore the US crimes thing like White Helmet.
6. Finally, based on the ‘Vietnamese Stockholm Syndrome’ comments above, I conclude that this is a extremely lazy argument of the people who does not even try to understand why Vietnamese hate and distrust China, refuse to listen Vietnamese reason, cannot accept the truth that China is not good guy and go full ‘what about it.”
I hope this is make sense to you guys.
to Unorthodox Black sheep VN:
There isn’t any state “good” or “bad”. Its usually based on their principles.
When China refers to its own culture and sticks more to their own philosophy of the Yin and Yang or DAO its quite different than than most of Western countries when sticking to the half side of the Roman Doktrin. Roman Doktrin tells us that Romans felt superior to any other foreign culture and regarded it as less valuable.
DAO tells that everything in this universe is based on a changing rule and nature itself is based on the principle of “developing” and “building”.
While still up today Western countries want “vassals” and in the case of USA either are bombing or trying with almost any possible way to get independent countries to do what it wants
China sticks more to the doctrine of development and builds infrastructure.
Because infrastructure (what the Western countries are usually bombing at first) is the basics (which the Romans understood perfectly) of trading possibilities.
China wants trade
Western countries want vassals (different kinds of it).
Point. This is the difference.
Plain and visible.
If people in a state like Vietnam ‘forgot’ their own culture and adopt too much from a foreign culture without holding their own it leads usually to some sort of a syndrome.
Hope it is now more clear to you where the weak point lies and it has nothing to do with understanding or not.
China wants trade USA wants vassals.
The words “good” and “bad” are usually not fitting when it comes to countries.
To monnalisa on August 22, 2020 · at 1:15 am EST/EDT
Your answer has nothing to do with the what I says about Chinese Imperialism. This is just an explain about China Culture and religion nothing more. Based on your own standard here, common people in the US and Western should be able to the elite. Do you know that majority of Chinese does not even know what China are doing in SCS like sinking our wood fish boat, an unnecessary brutal action? If the Yin Yang and Dao truly work in mental mind set like you say, then there is no funding Polpot, Mujahideen, and current action right now. You are running around circle here.
Your answer ignores many problematic on China owns history, you ignore the fact that China also invaded Vietnam many times in the past. You ignore the fact China territory today is the result of invade and conquer (Dzungar genocidal). What about China support on Polpot and Mujahideen? I think I truly fair enough to take China recent action in the First Cold War.
You go full ‘what about it’ again when you cannot explain to me about how realistic China ‘win-win’ deal. China trade with Roman, so what? Nothing to do with its imperialism nature. China is more like ‘bully imperialism’. How do you know what local people (like Africa) think about China so-called ‘win-win deal’ when you just keep drinking Chinese kool-aid only especially you will automatically think anyone criticize China is pro us.
Your ‘no good or bad state’ shows how cognitive dissonance your are because you are truly believe ‘grey nature’, then you are being skeptical on China imperialism action in SCS instead try to paint a picture ‘Hero China protect SCS from US’. China is ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf’ to Vietnam.
Vietnamese forgot their culture, right but the thing still cannot prove that China is not imperialism.
I’m sorry, your explain is very cognitive dissonance and running around circle for me.
By the way, my comment above is more about debunking ‘Vietnamese Stockholm Syndrome’ more than cricizing China.
My typo:
I should say ‘common people in the US and Western should be able to beat the elite’
Unorthodox Black Sheep VN:
I am unable to follow your thoughts.
First of all: no country is good or bad. Any country follows some outlined agenda.
Second: The big project of China “the new Silk Road” is connecting countries via infrastructure. Asia is still a very fast continent with too less infrastructure. This should for all Asian countries the point number one in their agenda.
Third: The South China Sea is a strategic point – but this is not only for China important. This is for most countries in this area. Because any too weak country in this area Western actions could prepare to create new vassals again – and of this you should be aware very much.
To solve this problem all countries surrounding should come together and talk. Without any Western politicans’. And being patient with each other.
Fourth: You aren’t the only one when it comes to history. Others are also aware of historical facts.
Fifth: I don’t know from where you got any info concerning the Mujaheddin being supported by China ?? China will never support those people because it would be against their strategic outlined agenda.
Without China USA will settle again in one of those Asian countries who are too weak to defend themselves and to withstand nowadays with many advanced technical military.
I can understand that you aren’t objective because its your country however, for some good outcome for your country you should try to regard things more objectively.
Unorthodox Black Sheep VN:
I am unable to follow your thoughts.
First of all: no country is good or bad. Any country follows some outlined agenda.
Second: The big project of China “the new Silk Road” is connecting countries via infrastructure. Asia is still a very fast continent with too less infrastructure. This should for all Asian countries the point number one in their agenda.
Third: The South China Sea is a strategic point – but this is not only for China important. This is for most countries in this area. Because any too weak country in this area Western actions could prepare to create new vassals again – and of this you should be aware very much.
To solve this problem all countries surrounding should come together and talk. Without any Western politicans’. And being patient with each other.
Fourth: You aren’t the only one when it comes to history. Others are also aware of historical facts.
Fifth: I don’t know from where you got any info concerning the Mujaheddin being supported by China ?? China will never support those people because it would be against their strategic outlined agenda.
Without China USA will settle again in one of those Asian countries who are too weak to defend themselves and to withstand nowadays with many advanced technical military.
I can understand that you aren’t objective because its your country however, for some good outcome for your country you should try to regard things more objectively.
PS: I know the case of the fishing boats. Nothing new and well known.
Moreover, India will not be able to help much as at the present time President Modi has – so it seems – no very clear outline for his country. And his country is concerning economic agenda still too weak. And Japan is under US doctrine a well as Malaysia isn’t very much free.
monnalisa on August 22, 2020 · at 5:22 pm EST/EDT
1. No country good or bad, I agree with you but the problem you are truly cognitive dissonance on China.
2. BRI is just good in theory. In reality, we never know. From what I understand about BRI, it can only work with China vassal states. There is no seriously analyze about BRI on any anti Anglo Zionism website, at least this is what I know.
3. I know and understand the military strategy of SCS. The problem here China is bullying other country around (sinking Vietnamese fishing boat, go inside Vietnamese EEZ illegally many time and even try to banned Vietnamese harvest oil in their own EEZ). Do you think the behavior like can make us Vietnamese trust China? No we don’t and never trust China is a hero in SCS. No excuse for them. If China want to cooperate with Vietnam and other SEA countries, then be honest and stop lying about Pham Van Dong letter to Zhou Enlai, ‘muh out ancient sea’, etc. and be honest. China never want to have seriously discussion about sharing SCS with others. Remind you how coward China is:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3078452/china-says-vietnamese-fishing-boat-rammed-coastguard-ship
Sinking boat is not new but do not make it a ‘new normal’. China must figure out other ways to stop the barbaric action or it will be gone worse.
4. I never say I am only one with historical fact. The problem here many people will ‘bend’ the historical fact to satisfy their own conformist about ‘hero China’ myth.
5. Here is some information about China support Mujahideen. Mention China past to remember that China has the guts to become demon do the immoral thing:
https://books.google.com/books?id=GXj4a3gss8wC&pg=PA157#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anderscorr/2017/02/21/sanction-china-for-its-support-of-taliban-terrorists/#1e3a825a4060
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233069936_China's_Response_to_the_Soviet_Invasion_of_Afghanistan
https://thediplomat.com/2018/09/how-the-1980-laid-the-groundwork-for-chinas-major-foreign-policy-challenges/
There is not proof to prove that without China the SEA countries will be invaded by US and also there is not proof to prove that China will come to save the countries that is invaded by US in SCS. It must depended on how leader of the countries act. In fact, US already controlled many SEA countries politically, and China try to use the 5th column (Chinese oversea) to control the SEA. What if China and US just act together for something spooky?
What do Japan and India relate to China imperialism in SCS? This is just orange and apple.
Unorthodox Black Sheep VN:
Are you aware that your given websites concerning Chinas relationship with Mujaheddin are all USA based (where some well know people like Gates are present) and Germany is USA vassal as well as Japan.
The given of USA’s political behavior is its history record since its founding as a state. There is not doubt how it is acting up til now and I don’t think that its acting political agenda will change.
It isn’t something new of the Frist Cold War political reactions and the ice age between Russia and China during the eighties of the last century.
However, China’s outline is still the same: namely “Trade”. Never being subdued. Point. Russias outline is too the same: never be a vassal and be independent. Point.
Plus: Nowadays for China being the First in Artificial Intelligence.
Plus: Nowadays for Russia being the First in Sciences. (However, this isn’t very new as Russia was always extremely good in sciences and arts!)
It is in USA big concern that China and Russia don’t act together. Russia owns the biggest landmass on this earth and our climate is changing rapidly.
monnalisa on August 23, 2020 · at 2:33 am EST/EDT
I also aware about this but the argument ‘this is US based’ does not prove that China did not support Mujahideen. Unless you can prove that this is not true then I will consider this.
Some Proofs on China Support Mujahideens:
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//coldwar/interviews/episode-17/brzezinski2.html
ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI:
https://newizv.ru/news/society/22-11-2018/v-sssr-i-rossii-umalchivali-ob-uchastii-kitaya-v-afganskoy-voyne
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/centralasia/pochemu-kitai-podderjival-afganskih-modjahedov-5e91775e0005e1223322d47a
China’s behavior on SCS is the clearly proof to prove that China is not good guy. This is questionable enough to doubt their true agenda.
China cannot become the first world on Science or anything else without the US technology since the 1980s and with the Russia current support right now, that the fact.
China is very depended on US for its export, without export, China will be messed.
Unorthodox Black Sheep VN:
First of all it is your right what you believe and what not. I don’t live there.
Second, it is well known what Brzezinski wrote and how his outlook was and the same goes with USA. USA didn’t want that Russia takes Afghanistan and we see nowadays what happened and how this country messed up.
China is a very old country with many, many developments in many fields. Nobody in Europe will doubt that China will or is already able to be one of the first countries in science. The proof ? Simple: China developed in past history enough examples of an extremely good way of thinking and made several important developments. So what you stated is totally wrong.
Moreover, China has enough people to stand on his own and even without USA will be doing very well in economy. If you are going to search who its trade partners nowadays are you will know. So this is also wrong from your point of view.
China is already on top of science developments which aroused the anger of USA and some other Western countries. Point. Just search, Point.
Generally speaking from an neutral point of view: It would be much much better if Asian countries would stick together and not work against each other. This would be much more natural.
To monnalisa on August 23, 2020 · at 6:13 pm EST/EDT
1. You still cannot proved what Brzezinski said about the China support on Mujahideen is a lie. Why did Brzezinski lie about this? This is just pointless for him to lie about this in 1997. This is his own mouth:
Cold War – Soldiers of God [E20/24] (At minutes 17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdE1D_fbV0
2. China past is still China past, China past cannot excuse the fact that China today is the result of the US support on technology since 1980s by moving the factory from US to China for cheap labor. I know Song Dynasty had the gun powdered but Song Dynasty was failed to the Mongol too despite the fact that they are far superior on technology than Mongol in 12th century. European still go ahead China in very long term processed. Did Han invent the Roman Concrete? Did Han invent the Greek Fire? In my personally opinion, compare ancient Han Empire technology to European technology is more like compare apple to orange. This is another argument:
Chinese teacher suspended for ‘belittling’ great inventions in online chat
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3024372/chinese-teacher-suspended-belittling-great-inventions-online
First Firearms (Documentary) (European go ahead China on Gun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z12ombr-y3c
3. If China can self-feed themselves like the theory, then why US still have ‘made in China’ products? Why does not China just nationalize all the US factory, cut support to US, let US die out slowly by not having ‘made in China’ products? Something is very spooky here:
China’s investors find safe haven in American real estate
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-s-investors-find-safe-haven-in-american-real-estate-171923676.html
The China-U.S. Intellectual Connection
http://greyenlightenment.com/the-china-u-s-intellectual-connection/
U.S. sent millions of face masks to China early this year, ignoring pandemic warning signs (This story is truly unnoticed despite the fact that this is Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-sent-millions-of-face-masks-to-china-early-this-year-ignoring-pandemic-warning-signs/2020/04/18/aaccf54a-7ff5-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html
The China-U.S. Cultural and Economic Connection
https://greyenlightenment.com/the-china-u-s-cultural-and-economic-connection/
Unorthodox Black Sheep VN:
Much to my regret and also my opinion only: you are extremely USA-bend.
During the Old Chinese history there were a lot of innovative developments created.
So what you wrote is short sighted and doesn’t fit at all. In medicine too there were a lot of innovative developments done which are still used nowadays.
I as an European, know very well European history. So no need to lecture me about.
Concerning Brzezinski: did you read his books ? As to me it seems that you didn’t.
He was a political advisor of USA president and outlined USA’s hegemony aspirations and how to achieve it. Up til now USA follows a lot of his outlined political agenda.
As I stated already several times: China wants trade. No less.
Concerning the masks: first of all it wasn’t any “help” from US government as it came from more private institutions. However, this would point to the fact, that USA could have been very much involved with the Covid-19 spread in Wuhan/China. Which means: USA intended to do some biological warfare against China. Also those masks and equipments weren’t of US origin (more or less, I don’t know! Any info about is extremely unclear!).
Asian countries are liked by Western companies because of cheap labour. So there isn’t any “help”. There is just cheap labour and Western countries/companies get much more profit. If those companies would use the labour in USA or in Europe things wouldn’t so cheap to buy and moreover, companies couldn’t reap those extreme profits/earnings.
If Western companies will do no trade with China they would switch to other Asian countries, like Bangladesh. India, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia etc. Maybe Vietnam will be used as the next “target” for Western profitable companies. Who knows ?
The flood in China is extremely big this year. But contrary to the unscientific talkshows from Taiwan, the Three Gorges Dam will stand. It was releasing water a few weeks ago to increase its reserve capacity to smooth peaks about to come. This generated some flooding downstreams but in controlled manner.
The Yantze and the Yellow River are managed by Central Government and maintenance work by local city mayors, who are doubled as ‘river manager’ – responsible for consecutive sections of the rivers. Chinese have been fighting floods for thousands of years. The major function of the Central Government is to fight floods.
The Chinese bureaucracy is highly meritocratic and competitive. (Those who believe that the officials are princelings are just naive. Even if they are, there are so many princelings around that they must show their ability. Probably nobody in the West reported that over 3K officials were dismissed in Hubei for their unqualified performance in the pandemic. )
Look at the opened spillway on the Three Gorges dam – spectacular.
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-08-20/Three-Gorges-Dam-makes-biggest-water-discharge-of-flood-season-T6F8EsGmsM/index.html
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-07-19/China-s-Three-Gorges-Dam-opens-spillways-SfMtMuJwQM/index.html
China is not imperialistic over the SCS. The sea and its islands and reefs belong to China as recognised by the intl’ community.
PROOF OF CHINA’S SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE ISLES & REEFS OF THE SOUTH CHINA SEA
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1. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and the Northern Island
a) China Sea Pilot compiled and printed by the Hydrography Department of the Royal Navy of the United Kingdom in 1912 has accounts of the activities of the Chinese people on the Nansha Islands in a number of places.
b) The Far Eastern Economic Review (Hong Kong) carried an article on Dec. 31 of 1973 which quotes the British High Commissioner to Singapore as having said in 1970: “Spratly Island (Nanwei Island in Chinese) was a Chinese dependency, part of Kwangtung Province… and was returned to China after the war. We can not find any indication of its having been acquired by any other country and so can only conclude it is still held by communist China.”
2. France
a) Le Monde Colonial Illustre mentioned the Nansha Islands in its September 1933 issue. According to that issue, when a French gunboat named Malicieuse surveyed the Nanwei Island of the Nansha Islands in 1930, they saw three Chinese on the island and when France invaded nine of the Nansha Islands by force in April 1933, they found all the people on the islands were Chinese, with 7 Chinese on the Nanzi Reef, 5 on the Zhongye Island, 4 on the Nanwei Island, thatched houses, water wells and holy statues left by Chinese on the Nanyue Island and a signboard with Chinese characters marking a grain storage on the Taiping Island.
b) Atlas International Larousse published in 1965 in France marks the Xisha, Nansha and Dongsha Islands by their Chinese names and gives clear indication of their ownership as China in brackets.
3) Japan
a) Yearbook of New China published in Japan in 1966 describes the coastline of China as 11 thousand kilometers long from Liaodong Peninsula in the north to the Nansha Islands in the south, or 20 thousand kilometers if including the coastlines of all the islands along its coast;
b) Yearbook of the World published in Japan in 1972 says that Chinese territory includes not only the mainland, but also Hainan Island, Taiwan, Penghu Islands as well as the Dongsha, Xisha, Zhongsha and Nansha Islands on the South China Sea.
4. The United States
a) Columbia Lippincott World Toponymic Dictionary published in the United States in 1961 states that the Nansha Islands on the South China Sea are part of Guangdong Province and belong to China.
b) The Worldmark Encyclopaedia of the Nations published in the United States in 1963 says that the islands of the People’s Republic extend southward to include those isles and coral reefs on the South China Sea at the north latitude 4°.
c) World Administrative Divisions Encyclopaedia published in 1971 says that the People’s Republic has a number of archipelagoes, including Hainan Island near the South China Sea, which is the largest, and a few others on the South China Sea extending to as far as the north latitude 4°, such as the Dongsha, Xisha, Zhongsha and Nansha Islands.
5. Viet Nam
a) Vice Foreign Minister Dung Van Khiem of the Democratic Republic of Viet Nam received Mr. Li Zhimin, charge d’affaires ad interim of the Chinese Embassy in Viet Nam and told him that “according to Vietnamese data, the Xisha and Nansha Islands are historically part of Chinese territory.” Mr. Le Doc, Acting Director of the Asian Department of the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry, who was present then, added that “judging from history, these islands were already part of China at the time of the Song Dynasty.”
b) Nhan Dan of Viet Nam reported in great detail on September 6, 1958 the Chinese Government’s Declaration of September 4, 1958 that the breadth of the territorial sea of the People’s Republic of China should be 12 nautical miles and that this provision should apply to all territories of the People’s Republic of China, including all islands on the South China Sea. On September 14 the same year, Premier Pham Van Dong of the Vietnamese Government solemnly stated in his note to Premier Zhou Enlai that Viet Nam “recognizes and supports the Declaration of the Government of the People’s Republic of China on China’s territorial sea.”
c) It is stated in the lesson The People’s Republic of China of a standard Vietnamese school textbook on geography published in 1974 that the islands from the Nansha and Xisha Islands to Hainan Island and Taiwan constitute a great wall for the defense of the mainland of China.
B. The maps printed by other countries in the world that mark the islands on the South China Sea as part of Chinese territory include:
1. The Welt-Atlas published by the Federal Republic of Germany in 1954, 1961 and 1970 respectively;
2. World Atlas published by the Soviet Union in 1954 and 1967 respectively;
3. World Atlas published by Romania in 1957;
4. Oxford Australian Atlas and Philips Record Atlas published by Britain in 1957 and Encyclopaedia Britannica World Atlas published by Britain in 1958;
5. World Atlas drawn and printed by the mapping unit of the Headquarters of the General Staff of the People’s Army of Viet Nam in 1960;
6. Haack Welt Atlas published by German Democratic in 1968;
7. Daily Telegraph World Atlas published by Britain in 1968;
8. Atlas International Larousse published by France in 1968 and 1969 respectively;
9. World Map Ordinary published by the Institut Geographique National (IGN) of France in 1968;
10. World Atlas published by the Surveying and Mapping Bureau of the Prime Minister’s Office of Viet Nam in 1972; and
11. China Atlas published by Neibonsya of Japan in 1973.
C. China’s sovereignty over the Nansha Islands is recognized in numerous international conferences.
1. The 1951 San Francisco Conference on Peace Treaty called on Japan to give up the Xisha and Nansha Islands. Andrei Gromyko, Head of the Delegation of the Soviet Union to the Conference, pointed out in his statement that the Xisha and Nansha Islands were an inalienable part of Chinese territory. It is true that the San Francisco Peace Treaty failed to unambiguously ask Japan to restore the Xisha and Nansha Islands to China. But the Xisha, Nansha, Dongsha and Zhongsha Islands that Japan was asked to abandun by the Peace Agreement of San Francisco Conference were all clearly marked as Chinese territory in the fifteenth map A Map of Southeast Asia of the Standard World Atlas published by Japan in 1952, the second year after the peace conference in San Francisco, which was recommended by the then Japanese Foreign Minister Katsuo Okazaki in his own handwriting.
2. The International Civil Aviation Organization held its first conference on Asia-Pacific regional aviation in Manila of the Philippines on 27 October 1955. Sixteen countries or regions were represented at the conference, including South Viet Nam and the Taiwan authorities, apart from Australia, Canada, Chile, Dominica, Japan, the Laos, the Republic of Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, the United Kingdom, the United States, New Zealand and France. The Chief Representative of the Philippines served as Chairman of the conference and the Chief Representative of France its first Vice Chairman. It was agreed at the conference that the Dongsha, Xisha and Nansha Islands on the South China Sea were located at the communication hub of the Pacific and therefore the meteorological reports of these islands were vital to world civil aviation service. In this context, the conference adopted Resolution No. 24, asking China’s Taiwan authorities to improve meteorological observation on the Nansha Islands, four times a day. When this resolution was put for voting, all the representatives, including those of the Philippines and the South Viet Nam, were for it.
No representative at the conference made any objection to or reservation about it.
To Dan on August 23, 2020 · at 3:58 am EST/EDT
I will talk about the claim ‘Vietnam give Paracel and Spratly Island to China’:
1. Pham Van Dong Letter to Zhou Enlai does not mention the island. This is explain from Vietnamese:
http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/late-vietnam-pms-letter-gives-no-legal-basis-to-chinas-island-claim-26821.html
https://paracelspratlyislands.blogspot.com/2008/01/analyzing-diplomatic-note-of-pham-van.html
2. There is no proof to prove the so-called Vietnamese Geography Text Book or Vietnamese world atlas is real. Why China does not show the picture of the whole of text book but a PDF file of some pages instead? I suspect that this is a Vietnamese translation of Chinese Geography text book.
3. Nhân Dân Newspaper just mention ’12 nautical miles’, it did not mention the Paracel and Spratly islands.
4. Are you sure the guy Lê Đốc is truly exist because I cannot find any information about this guy and China does not specific Lê Đốc is North Vietnamese or South Vietnamese?
5. Dung Văn Khiêm or Ung Văn Khiêm? No proof to prove that Ung Văn Khiêm said that but that does not matter. The matter must be solved and discussed with Mao Zedong and Ho Chi Minh directly because the people were the only one had authoritative to decide the islands is belong to Vietnam or China.
6. What the foreign countries talk about the Paracel and Spratly Islands does not matter because:
a. This is the political talk of the outsider. Outsiders viewpoint is always unreliable.
b. There is no UN vote to appoint the island is belong to Vietnam, China, or anything else.
c. Since the 1980s, the disputed in the island is always happened between China and Vietnam. No countries until 2014 cared so much about this.
7. Very important point here, Paracel and Spratly islands were Sea territory of South Vietnamese (Saigon Puppet) at the time legally so what North Vietnam said about the island is unreliable and no-legally in common sense.
8. Currently day, in my own personal opinion, the most logical and reasonable way to solve the disputed on Paracel and Spratly Island is China and Vietnam will keep the amount of the island they seized since the 1980s then no more fight. This is the most logical and reasonable solution for the problem.
To monnalisa on August 24, 2020 · at 8:03 am EST/EDT
1. I don’t read Brzezinski’s book. But so what? Does reading his books prove that ‘China funding Mujahideen’ is a liar?
2. I’m not USA bend, I am anti-US same to anti-China. I truly cannot understand the logic here, anti-China is somehow pro-US (May this is just happened to inferiority complex Vietnamese only and I’m not one of them)?
3. Old China had many innovative, that right, but they never or rarely use or update the innovative in the right way meanwhile European did the better job than China. China past is still China past.
4. China true agenda never want to trade in their own mouth, China true agenda is ruling the world in other way like make other countries depended on China.
https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/silk-road-diplomacy-twists-turns-and-distorted-history
5. I know the Wuhan thing but my point here is about China imperialism in SCS. China get virus attack from US does not excuse their imperialism action. Personally, I suspect that both US and China release the COVID-19 for their own angenda.
6. China cannot be successful on technology on the without the US support on technology and the help of Russia right now, I repeat. Deng Xiao Ping was the one who made deal with US to turn China into the World Factory. You have to try to understand the elite mindset here. If China is still the cheapest labor one with the greedy belly of Chinese and US elite, then why should US elites move their own factory to other location with more expensive labor? Do you think US elite have guts to tell the US blue collar workers (which is nearly not existed right now) something like that ‘you guys have to work with 1 USD per hour so you guys have job and money’? No, I don’t think so. Majority of US weapon is also ‘made in China’ too so US will never cut tied to China. In fact, China and US are more depended on each other than ‘China-Russia double helix’.
The Pentagon Realised What It Has Done – the Chinese Put the US Army on Its Knees
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Why China does not put US on its knees now? That mean US also blackmail China on something we don’t know. More spooky thing here:
Xi Jinping’s daughter rumored to have returned to US to resume studies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3796172