by Larchmonter445
China, Russia step up media cooperation with 9 deals inked
I noticed this new development. It follows our Double Helix metaphor from the deepening of the China-Russia strategic integration. This time it is based in the use of media globally.
What is intriguing is the way they will go forward.
Double Helixing their strengths, cooperating where it best suits them, sharing expertise and talents, and probably cross-using resources. We may see a CCTV program shot by Ruptly soon.
Having watched CCTV 9 (English language Chinese TV) for 14 years, I can attest that they have excellent documentary skills. Their cultural programs are outstanding. One reason the Olympics in 2008 was such a success was the talent it had from all media to package the events and all surrounding pomp and circumstance.
China’s soft diplomacy with its Confucius Institutes and Media are important as China’s size and power become more apparent. It’s no myth that in the next 20-50 years China will be number one in the categories that matter. As it teams with Russian in world affairs and the development of Eurasia, the two nations need to communicate a very clear picture to all other nations of the peaceful, cooperative and constructive policies they propose.
This article touches on the possibilities of how the use of Media will go forward.
To quote one section of the article: “there are great expectations for the “China-Russia Media ExchangeYear”. According to the media exchange framework, the Chinese and Russian MediaCooperation Subcommittee has collectively organized activities and formed an important consensus, which includes: media policy exchanges, feature reports, cooperation in television and film, translation of published books, emerging media exchanges, media cooperation and educational training, and series of upcoming events are under planning. The two sides are also planning on joint filming and broadcasting on the theme of SilkRoad Economic Belt and Eurasian Economic Union.”
Just Monday, another Double Helix fact: What is more basic than milk?
http://rt.com/business/270463-china-russia-milk-farm/
50 miles from the border, about 120 miles from Vladivostok, the Chinese and Russians are constructing a 100,000 cow farm for the production of milk to supply Russia. Each nation will grow the grain for feed for the cattle. It is a joint venture.
The project will be situated In Heilongjiang province, Northeast China, an old Russian area. Harbin is the capital city, famous for Russian culture and architecture.
The scale of things is startling. But that’s China. Scale is what they are not afraid of. With high speed rail connections, soon they can deliver fresh milk next day in Moscow.
I suggest that they put a small EU flag on the side of the milk carton (suggesting the EU is ‘the missing child’). Europe really has screwed itself big time with sanctions. The reaction by Russia opens markets for BRICS to supply other foods and products. Clever those Euro-deviants.
Food production is fundamental for China. They starved in the fifties and no family did not lose members in Mao’s agricultural disasters. Stability requires plentiful food. But now the two nations are combining efforts in the industrialization of agriculture.
A land lease deal (for 50 years) signed this month to lease 115,000 hectares to the Chinese (a private company). It is in Transbaikal region. It will be a grain production project, expandable to 200,000 hectares. The Russians will benefit from technology transfers also. The Chinese have innovated and adopted the best technologies of massive agriculture while avoiding GMO seeds. Affordable food for Russian store shelves and kitchen tables will be the benefit.
Earlier, a Chinese investment in Russian aquaculture in the Russian Far East, at Russky Island, near Vladivostok. The Chinese will be raising specialty sea foods, like sea cucumbers and scallop spawn. This is a 15 billion ruble investment by a Chinese company in an Advance Technology Biotechpark.
The ‘Double Helix’ is expanding throughout the body of the two nations, their societies and many of the institutions of government and industries They are working with, investing in, training, educating, feeding and protecting each other. A very Comprehensive Strategic Collaborative Partnership, as it is officially described.
Larchmonter445
Seems like Baba Beijing is just rolling along in a direction that must be causing fits in the back rooms of Washington . They still haven’t come up with anything to counter RT and now this . :>) I wonder just how desperate with the truth they will be .lol
I’m glad to hear there’s hope of more truthful media, but after years of looking at RT’s MSM-clone I’ll believe it when I see it. I guess I exaggerate; RT must be a LITTLE better than MSM.
GMO in CHINA:
China grows GMO Bt cotton and soybean. Most papaya sold in China is GMO.
Dec 2014 China Reversal on GMO Corn Import Ban.
The GMO industry has taken to calling it “biotech” to blur the distinction between hybridization and GMO. The new trade pacts like TTIP ban labelling of GMOs.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-21/china-does-an-about-face-on-gmos Excerpt: “China’s top officials are gearing up to turn their country into a GMO power. In a speech released last fall, President Xi Jinping said China must “boldly research and innovate, [and] dominate the high points of GMO techniques.” An agricultural policy paper issued early this year calls for more GMO research. A pro-GMO ad campaign from the agriculture ministry began in September 2014. Beijing-based Origin Agritech has already developed GMO corn seeds, while other Chinese companies are working on new rice varieties. “Biotechnology is our investment for the future,” says Origin Chairman Han Gengchen. He expects the government to allow planting of GMO corn within three years.”
I guess the cows will be fed non-GMO because the farm is in Russia
Thanks for the reality check Penelope. That was very informative. This is the kind of error we all can make from dropping the critical eye and being overly-optimistic and idealistic in our idealistic desire to see a fairer world.
So another eye-opener for me regarding the GMO infiltration of the BRICS: (Brasil is hopelessly down the tubes when it comes to GMO; except their Papayas are not GMO – yet), India’s GMO experiment with Bt-Cotton has been a disaster for the farmers and great for their textile industry and middlemen, South Africa is just too weak and vulnerable to resist.
If there is one thing the Empire does well ,its Hollywood propaganda movies.Given 70 years of them, most of the West has forgotten that Russia won WWII.And much of the World is “treated” to movies of “evil” Russians and “good guy” US Americans.The movies portray the Americans as always the “average nice guy” battling and defeating the villainous “machine like Russian bad guys”.The Russians they portray are almost “dripping” will evil.If I didn’t know the truth I’d believe them myself (I did many,many,years ago).But the problem is most people don’t know the truth.They get their news from the bribed MSM.And their only image of Russia from Hollywood.So a question should be asked ,”how does Russia counter that”.So far they don’t,so how do they? My thinking is that just as in most of life when attacked,you fight back.Russia has an awesome film industry of its own.Linked with China for co-productions.They can start countering that propaganda from the West.Start producing films showing what is happening/and has happened in Ukraine.Not documentaries alone,those have a restricted audience.I mean real films showing the truth.And do them in half-English,for a vast World viewership.Action films with a meaning.The Israelis and Hollywood have teamed up and make countless films of “evil Arabs” and “brave Israelis”.So that today most people in the US and most of the Anglosphere associate all Arabs as terrorists and all Israelis are the “good guys”.Propaganda or what is delicately called “the information war” is multifaceted.Telling the truth in video documentaries and articles,is not enough.We must reach people through their “feelings”.I’ve watched in horror for years seeing the Israeli/Hollywood “gruesome twosome” lie and manipulate peoples heartstrings.It works for them,it works big-time.While we sit ideally by and don’t fight fire with fire.Just think of the political thrillers that could be made about the “junta coup” and alliance of the West and nazis.Think of the action films that could be made of fighting in Donbass.The touching human stories that could be made of the Crimean reunion,and of the police suffering during maidan.Of the refugee stories of the ethnic cleansing.We’ve seen here posts about women and children that fled to Russia after the women were raped by fascists .Stories about FSB (or NAF) agents working behind the lines in Banderastan.The story ideas are endless for these type of movies.
I agree with everything – except with the suggestion of making films in English. Both Russian and Chinese are civilisational languages, spoken by millions of people all over the world. You can dub the films afterwards in all major international languages: Spanish, Arabic, French, Turkish and yes, also English. But making them in English from the beginning? That would be submitting to your worst enemy.
Not to mention the accent..
Honest depictions of story themes and not the black and white US Hoolywood style. Although some of the more recent comic based films have a little more depth to them with their characters it is still the good USA. Not tye empire of Chaos that actually is.
Maybe also films that deal with problems associated with empire portraying the cost of countries that pursue empire building on the populas at home. Still, there are examples of that from UK with Dickins who was scathing in his portrayal of Victorian England at home and rightly so.
Interesting enough, I find Russian cinema portrayal of German soldiers fairly honest in their War films. Not the 2 dimensional evil demons as Hollywood portrays. Much more respectful in their narative and the films focus more on the bravery or courage of the Soviets in their war situation.
Similar is the treatment of Soviet soldiers in German based productions. The horror is the situation both sides are in, not the people per say. Anglo/American narratives are much more likely to try and demonise the Germans or opposition and dehumanise them. This is also I believe a result of the Anglo Political / Legal System which was born from the Adversarial Trial by Combat legal system of the English. Might makes right and truth and God are on the side of the victor. This is very much a cultural and historical flaw in the Anglo Society and of which we are dealing with in trying to deal with Anglo/Zionism.
Just some thoughts.
Thanks, Larchmonter. This is fascinating news. It gives me great hope for the world, this growing partnership between China and Russia.
Glad to see the phrase: “….avoiding GMO seeds” when reading the paragraph about China – Russia agricultural cooperation.
Even Pope Francis has turned against GMOs in his latest encyclical: http://www.naturalnews.com/050246_GMOs_Pope_Francis_encyclical.html
Maybe regime change in the Vatican is next …
I suggest that they put a small EU flag on the side of the milk carton (suggesting the EU is ‘the missing child’).
LOL and yes the eu is doa very soon if it can’t get rid of their Amerikan overlords. Yes as others have pointed out leave the gmo foods out of their system.
Thanks Larchmonster 445
Oh and the sanctions are only for eu boeing is filling the order of cargo jets to a Russian company.
Ray McGovern the former CIA analyst pointed out to his old masters years ago that Russia/China would happen someday in the future because of Amerikas neo-con crazies.
Thanks Larchmonter445 for another good piece.
Just one point – I think China has already introduced GMO into their food chain. The Russians are against GMO so in regard to this, it will be interesting to watch which way these developments will go.
Rgds,
Veritas
From what I’ve read, the Chinese spent seven years testing and rejecting GMOs from the usual culprits. They approved a benign GMO from Bayer as a result of that testing.
However, GMOs are inevitable. Some of the science is not evil. The term has become pejorative because of what Monsanto is doing with their glyphosate.
Farmers, even backyard garden growers always sought more yield, or larger, or pest resistant or more sugary produce, grains and herbs. They found natural ways to modified the genetics of their seeds and seedlings. Now there are lab sciences and technological tools to do benign modifications.
The testing regimen and safety protocols are what will matter. I think the Chinese are out in front on some of these things. I do know they have done great human genetics science and are out in front on some important human genome work. There’s an Institute in Shanghai, I believe, where that medical research is going on.
I think Russian science will also get into the deep research and testing for safety.
I’ll try to keep an lookout for more on the subject.
Larchmonter, It’s not merely the glyphosate that’s used with the GMOs that make them very destructive of human and animal health. It’s the GMO process itself. Furthermore, it increases yield only sometimes– and where it does, only for the first couple years.
In India 100s of thousands of suicides have occurred due to the failure of Monsanto’s GMO seeds.
The GMO potatoes that we were only narrowly saved from produced smaller internal organs and brains in the rats they were tested on. It was a fluke that further testing took place.
I know you can’t be an expert on everything, but please don’t assume that GMO is OK w/o reviewing the literature. Wm Engdahl wrote a book on it, or there are numerous articles on it at Globalresearch.ca.
Regards
@Penelope
It depends on the genetic modification as to the health effects or otherwise. Virtually every thing we eat has had genetic modification by selective breeding. Apart from foods like fish which are harvested from the wild.
Many fruits and vegetables that have been modified either through selective breeding or in the lab, to produce bulk/tonnage is generally higher in say carbohydrates and lower in minerals and trace elements and essential vitamins.
The patented GMOs in the west are designed for high yield, disease/drought resistance and presentation. Nutrients is not in the equation.
A GMO modified plant that is designed for disease/drought resistance and best yield, while retaining the same percentage of nutrients (not sacrificing nutrients for yield) would seem to be a good thing.
Peter…we don’t want GMO foods…Ok ?? Period. I’m into agriculture for my whole life and I don’t want them. I want happy animals and healthy plants. thats all…take your GMO”s and go to Mars.
Ann, If you are breeding domesticated animals or growing any sort of domesticated plants, they are all genetically modified through selective breeding.
Having a bad day?
you know what Peter ? Can’t you distinguish between fuZ**ing animals and injecting a foreign body into a molecule ? Geesh
“Virtually every thing we eat has had genetic modification by selective breeding.”
That sounds right out of the Monsanto excuses book.
GMO refers to artificially modified, not to selective breeding. They are not the same. The issue is not that the plant is different from 10 years ago. The issue is how did it get to be different. In GMO very often the inserted genes are from a different plant (or even some non-plant) which would never occur in real life, where plants (or animals) only breed within their own species.
“A GMO modified plant that is designed for disease/drought resistance and best yield, while retaining the same percentage of nutrients (not sacrificing nutrients for yield) would seem to be a good thing.”
YES it would be a good thing. But doesn’t exist. A plant that doesn’t succumb to disease or drought automatically has better yield. But then needs to be able to take up nutrients at a rate to support that extra yield. If that is moderated by other genes, are they being modified too? have they even been identified? The plant that survives drought still may need to intake some nutrients in solution in water…. oh, drought, what water, bad luck nutrient.
Most GMO is done on plants that have had 8 or 10 generations of natural breeding to improve them. That is where the bulk of the initial better yield comes from. Then yields drop as horrendous quantities of artificial fertiliser strips all nutrients out of the soil. Meanwhile herbicides need to be increased beyond the “resistance” capacity as the “weeds” develop resistance by themselves and insects/animals that would be killing those weeds die off.
Meanwhile the higher yields create INCREASED HUNGER. The seeds/herbicide/fertiliser package is so expensive only big corporations can afford it. Maybe they get huge yields, but local people cannot afford to buy it — because they have no income, because they got pushed off their (low-yielding but feeding them) farms to make room for the agri-business.
Well Said Kat Kan,
You brought up issues regarding nutrient depletion that are generally not known or thought about. That’s excellent non-linear (out of the box) reasoning.
GMO is not a joke, it’s bl**dy serious, it has the potential of long-lasting mass environment damage – worse than radioactivity (such as permanently tainting the gene-pool of key species, basic staples, etc). Not to mention the theft of humanity’s heritage by a few evil psychopaths that even want to appropriate life and turn every farmer on the planet into a virtual neo-share-cropper/renter.
They will fail because of their own ignorance, incompetence and unsustainable model, but what about the incalculable damage they’ll do to the biosphere until their unsustainable model hits the wall? (No wonder Russia’s building a seed bank).
Very disappointing news about China and GMOs. Even if China doesn’t use GMOs for Kissinger’s purpose, fact is they destroy rich soil. Bad news.
Kissinger’s 1974 Plan for
Food Control Genocide
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_kissinger_food.html
Kissinger: “Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.” US strategy deliberately destroyed family farming in the US and abroad and led to 95% of all grain reserves in the world being under the control of six multinational agribusiness corporations
BY IWB • JUNE 20, 2012
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/kissinger-control-oil-and-you-control-nations-control-food-and-you-control-the-people-us-strategy-deliberately-destroyed-family-farming-in-the-us-and-abroad-and-led-to-95-of-all-grain-reserves/#RlA3yqWPcuIrJMph.99
The 1-child policy in China was also instigated by Kissinger. I’d hate to disappoint the optimists here, but the people who control China are not Chinese… to learn who does: http://justice4chinese.weebly.com/
Cross-breeding is a form of GMO, and has been done for a thousand years. The problem with Monsanto is that they actually put in some “suicide” genes in their seeds so that the seeds can only be grown into plants a couple of times, after that they basically commit suicide, and farmers will have to repeatedly by those seeds from Monsanto.
You nailed it. It is frustrating that not everybody understands this crucial distinction.
No Peter he hasn’t nailed it.
It’s frustrating that you don’t see the bigger picture about the introduction of genes alien to a particular plant species into the biosphere, tainting non-gmo plants of the same species including wild varieties.
It’s frustrating that you haven’t looked at the computer models about the huge number of permutations that a change in the DNA sequence (and the resulting proteins) have on other unrelated genes in the same plant AND the fact that the scientists playing with this stuff are clueless as to how the epigenome works. Think of adding a piece of executable code into a running program and you get a small idea of the kind of chaos you can introduce an organism.
cross breeding if the animal is not forced is ok…the word force is the key ….
Larchmonter..No way….that’s propaganda…GMO’s have to leave this planet….along with whatever and whoever thinks they are the inevitable way forward….
There’s a documentary called the Future of Food that gives a really good description of the GMO”s Its not just roundup…its the whole thing of tampering with nature..there’s no need to tamper with nature to that degree…we just have to improve the soils with nature stuff, like cow manure and horse manure and also perhaps Biodynamic completely nature supplements.
@Larchmonter
Re: GMOs
Are you kidding? Do you even understand the science that goes into GMO? This is mind-blowing to support something you haven’t done the research in. I’m not going to get into reams of details and links, I’ll just point out one small vector used in this technology –> mechanisms used to turn off genes (via RNA) during the process of producing GMO may transition to the person eating the product. This is very dangerous until it is thoroughly tested.
You’re putting your faith in Chinese government scientists where they have exactly the same pressures and corruption from their industry lobbies as in the West (and India – another BRICS country that is riddled with corruption and multi-national lobbies).
I think Russian scientists and the Russian leadership are far more responsible on this matter (because their people are a precious and barely recovering demographic resource to that state). Why I mention the leadership of Russia? Because he,Putin, can look to the longterm picture and say no to immediate profits. This really adds to argument of having a Sovereign or Executive with real power and the ability to show leadership in making short-term unpopular decisions (or lobby-proof decisions from the neo-feudal class known as Corporations, Banks and Oligarches) for the longterm good.
When it comes to credibility, Russia’s science and safety protocols are leaps ahead of the world (because the profit motive doesn’t taint it to the same degree as in other nations). They’ve banned GMO for a reason, go look into it for yourself.
You will also note that Russian Wireless Safety protocols are the toughest in the world; why? Because their physicists during Soviet times did the most research on this aspect bar-none and were not subjected to ‘industry’ lobbies. They, Russia, are still world leaders in primary sciences. As a scientist myself, I’ll trust their pronouncements before I’ll trust anyone else (not because others are less advanced, but because the Russian system is different). Guess who has the lowest restrictions on Microwave power emissions and regulation: China and the United States. Guess which 2 countries have the world’s largest Wireless Industries?
Guess which countries have the most people and most users?
Your arguments are sophist.
And why attack people? State your case.
Larchmonter445 said one thing about GMO in his article. The Chinese would avoid the GMO seeds.
Loons and the fearful reacted like he was an advocate for GMO.
Then he indicated pure science would find a wise path. That was a temperate statement. Consistent with the history of science and technological advances.
As for Russia, he indicated they would do careful research also.
Hardly, deserving of outrage. This is a free speech, open minds forum.
It isn’t a place where personal attacks for ideas you can challenge with facts (as Saker always insists) is normal practice. Go elsewhere with that stuff.
Larchmonter445 can handily defend himself, I am sure. However, I’m tired of hysterics from some quarters.
What is very interesting is very few commenters on the article addressed the first part: media cooperative strategy of China and Russia.
Hysterics overwhelmed the initial and ultimately more important development and strategy.
Chill.
you chill you big egg,…go drink some roundup and get genetically modified yourself….don’t do it to sweet and innocent animals….
@ Signalman
“Your arguments are sophist.”
–In your opinion Signalman. Obviously my point went over your head (here’s a hint, it has to do with money, lobbying and similar behavior of all humans under similar conditions and social programming).
“And why attack people? State your case.”
–You’ll be well served to follow you own advise.
“Loons and the fearful reacted like he was an advocate for GMO.”
–Pot calling the kettle black? Look at your own irrational name calling and emotional outburst before you accuse others of the same; I agree with Ann, if you want to drink Monsanto’s Kool-Aid go ahead, just keep the rest of us out of it.
“[His advocacy of GMO] Hardly, deserving of outrage. This is a free speech, open minds forum.”
–Likewise our objection to his uncritical eye regarding GMO is hardly deserving of your outrage. Yes I agree “This a free speech, open minds forum” – or does free speech only apply to you and those you admire?
“It isn’t a place where [you can use] personal attacks
for[in place of] ideasyou can[to] challengewithfacts (as Saker always insists)is[as a] normal practice.”—Wasn’t it you who resorted to using terms like “Loons and fearful” to describe all those that disagreed with the author you admire and agree with so much?
“Go elsewhere with that stuff.”
—You first. Lead by example.
“Larchmonter445 can handily defend himself.”
—Exactly he’s extremely intelligent and more skilled (by far) than us (certainly better than me) in expressing himself.
“I’m tired of hysterics from some quarters.”
—Then perhaps you can lead by example by not exhibiting hysterics yourself.
“What is very interesting is very few commenters on the article addressed the first part: media cooperative strategy of China and Russia.”
—That was due to Larchmonter’s own decision to make supportive statements about Chinese GMO adoption in response to Veritas’ comment. All of this was to address legitimate concerns (and Excellent information) brought up by Penelope and others – had he not done that, this “debate” would not have started and distracted us from the main point of his article. That isn’t Penelope’s fault, that was Larchmonter’s decision defend the way China is implementing their GMO policy.
“Chill”
—Good advice.
“A land lease deal (for 50 years) signed this month to lease 115,000 hectares to the Chinese (a private company). It is in Transbaikal region. It will be a grain production project, expandable to 200,000 hectares. The Russians will benefit from technology transfers also. The Chinese have innovated and adopted the best technologies of massive agriculture while avoiding GMO seeds. Affordable food for Russian store shelves and kitchen tables will be the benefit.”
-Doesn’t this include massimmigration of Chinese? I read that there are not enough workers, so China insist that Russia allow free-flow of Chinese settlers into the region.. Effectivly giving China demograpic control over the region once the contract expires.
No!
“massimmigration of Chinese”
On the scale of things, 200,000 hectares of wheat farming does not require mass immigration.
Wheat farming is highly mechanised requiring little labour. http://www.getfarming.com.au/cdt/uploads/92000/success/92000200806130815.jpg
I have read elsewhere this project will require about 3000 personal.
This issue is sensitive, as many feel very little help is given to Russian farmers, or even negative help through the Babylonian bankster system. Not saying it is a bad idea, just that it has become political football. I believe Zhirinovsky’s party is fighting it in the parliament, and a high percentage of patriotic bloggers or news sites are as well.
How Israel likes US and Obama
http://www.jewishjournal.com/rosnersdomain/item/israelis_on_obama_in_five_charts
Health excitement
http://www.jewishjournal.com/israel/article/netanyahu_was_smuggled_to_hospital_twice_in_disguised_vans
This is interesting indeed. I actually think RT is better at countering the Western MSM, although I only watch CCTV occasionally (compared to RT). I think CCTV can learn more from RT for sure on countering MSM propaganda.
Taiwan the next trouble spot?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/30/us-taiwan-china-youth-idUSKCN0PA2W320150630
An energetic and fast-growing youth movement, united in suspicion of economic and cultural dependence on China, is expected to sweep in a president from a party which favors independence from China, something Communist Party rulers across the narrow Taiwan Strait will never allow.
I can see NGOs in Taiwan pushing a movement for independence as the next big US move in “countering” China.
That effort has been under way in Taiwan since 1949. The US has always caused problems for the PRC regarding Taiwan.
The reality is the Cross Straits divide is as wide as it has been for the last six or seven years. A political bridge was being established when recent developments of the political losses in elections threw a monkey wrench in what seemed to be a drawing closeness.
Huge opportunity of US to exploit. Students is always their base of disruption.
And Obama is threatening very dangerous moves that might even move troops onto the island or ships docked at some ports.
China will react wildly if any attempt to change Taiwan’s status in China’s eyes is initiated.
One reason for the Chinese to begin the conversion of thousands of commercial vessels to serve the military would be for massive troop movement (what else could they be used for?).
There is no end to the chaos the US government can spread.
Did you know that America officially backed Chiang Kai-shek and the Chinese Republicans and yet it was Mao and the Chinese Communists who won the “civil war”? Did you ever wonder how the heck that could have happened? Where do you suppose Mao got his financing and arms? Here’s a short history lesson: http://justice4chinese.weebly.com/blog/hitler-was-right-so-was-mccarthy-joe-mccarthy-that-is
Russia and China need to start increasing their media counter-offensive against America’s massive media machine.
The America media–both mainstream and phony US “alternative” media–are the ultimate Weapons of Mass Deception.
Just think: a White colonizer empire like America, which is founded upon the enslavement of Black people and the occupation of Native Indian land, has the outrageous arrogance to claim that it was founded upon principles of liberty and defends freedom today!
Yet America is able to get away with this Orwellian deception–and virtually all Americans (including faux US dissidents) believe in this nationalist propaganda about US freedom.
This fundamental deception reveals everything you need to know about America and its values.
Americans are a people who spew lies like normal numans breath. And their media is merely a reflection of these perverse American values.
As the great Nina Simone once proclaimed, the USA stands for the United SNAKES of America.
And don’t expect the USA to change–ever.
America, as Stokely Carmichael stated, simply does not have a moral conscience.
Never did. Never will.
Very true. Exceptional parasitism at its finest. The only thing that could fundamentally change Pindostan and its vile population is what ended Nazi Germany: Resounding defeat on its very own soil at the hands of an invading proletarian force. Absent such humbling lessons, the Pindos will stick to their very stable template of, ahem, “personality”.
Hi Larchmonter…fabulous post. And those dear cows will not be fed GMO food….and hopefully Russians and Chinese will take good care of them…so that they’re happy cows…
very good article by Dimitri Orlov at the end it says a little about farming, so its not totally ot….
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42280.htm
I’ll post this in a few places for those who are interested in GMO science and China’s future with GMO food and feed for livestock.
This source seems close to up to date and thorough.
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/531721/chinas-gmo-stockpile/
I don’t want to argue. It’s information. I know many folks are adamant. I don’t take sides on the issue.
Genetics and the entire nanotechnology world fascinates me. Gene splicing can be good or evil.
Mankind has faced these junctures many times in the past. It takes wisdom to choose the good path.
What interests me is how the Chinese are going after pure research breakthroughs and then how they use the resulting knowledge and technologies.
I will keep looking for additional good sources on the topic.
Larchmonter that’s a cop-out, you were taking sides on the issue. It’s just that you got a lot pushback and now you’re backtracking and saying you’re not.
I’m not questioning your good intentions, just your judgment in becoming uncritical towards those forces that you perceive that are standing up to the current order. That’s doing a disservice to your readers, to those you are supporting (BRICS, China, RIC, Russia) and to the credibility of your point of view. If a friend is making an error, good friends speak out instead standing uncritically by. Putting an idealistic spin on everything China does is harmful to China and Chinese people. If China is adopting GMO that is not a good thing. China has many things to be proud of (economic development, self-sufficiency, their robust defense of the Asian landmass, and maintaining independent policies), but their environmental record and food-safety record are not among those, there’s plenty of information from official sources in China itself pointing this out; admissions from the Chinese government, Chinese media, etc.
As a small example: the reason Hong Kong runs out of Baby Formula regularly, and has entire stores dedicated to selling Baby Formula is due to mainland Chinese buying it at a premium from Hong Kong due to their lack of confidence in the safety of the same brand manufactured in China. I have loads of Chinese friends here in the West who will not buy food products imported from China out of fear of adulteration, they buy equivalents from Taiwan, Korea and Vietnam instead, yet these same friends are very nationalistic and proud of China, however, that doesn’t prevent them of being critical of the Chinese system where it fails.
3 cents. You are entitled to your opinion.
I presented information. I do not defend governments. Any governments.
You can post whatever the hell you want.
. . . and when you get to my elbow, whistle twice.
Larchmonter
Regarding the following:
“. . . and when you get to my elbow, whistle twice.”
Did you just put yourself on a pedestal?
Is that how you react when someone calls you out? Look if you don’t want to be called-out, then don’t deny something you actually did -in print-.
“You can post whatever the hell you want.”
Thank you for your gracious permission. By your leave, let me state: it is my opinion that you have a tendency to put an idealistic spin on what you write. Now it could just be you trying to be positive, supportive and understanding. To me though it comes across as uncritical and not so objective; this is how it came across to me – it could be a style thing.
That was my feedback to you, if you don’t want to accept that, that’s your call and right – but for God’s sake keep my elbow and your elbow out if it.
Larchmont..just because its written in a document on the Internet doesn’t mean its true….your own soul should tell you what’s true…and if it doesn’t….then that explains what’s wrong with the world. If we don’t start cherishing what we have and not focusing on ‘improving’ our dear planet…it will turn into a prison planet.
We need to help our planet to survive this disgusting domination by ‘natural science’…its the universities that have ruined in 100 years what has progressed without interference for a million years. and this includes war….and GMO