00:21 Information from the Militia
Ukies are conducting an intensive shelling of Kramatorsk, Slavyansk, the areas of Yampol and Krivaya Luka. As well, intensive battles are taking place in the area of Vishnevo-Dyakovo (DPR). In Metallist (suburb of Lugansk), Ukies got it good and are retreating to their positions.23:50 (MSK) – Powerful heavy artillery explosions in Slavyansk, in Artyom and Severeniy districts.
00:00 (MSK) – Methodical destruction of Kramatorsk with heavy artillery is continuing. An artillery battery from the northern side of Krasniy Liman has joined in.
00:50 (MSK) – Signal flares over Krasniy Liman (the northern district); they are lighting up areas next to the artillery battery. Shelling against Kramatorsk is continuing. Fire has been opened at Slavyansk from the turn onto Krasniy Liman. Shelling is coming also from the garbage dump.
00:56 Commentary from the Militia
Q: Massive explosions and shooting in Kramatorsk. City centre is in smoke. In many areas of the city the civil defence siren is active.
Badass Soldier: We gave them an answer. Judging by the panicked radio transmissions, after our allah-verdi the TV tower fell on the Ukie positions.
01:47 Commentary from the Militia
Q: Do I understand it correctly that the TV tower succumbed to a purely natural disaster – hurricane winds and hail?
Badass Soldier: Unfortunately, we have neither the first, nor the second here – looks like our shells snapped the TV tower’s support cables. I noticed something – as soon as a guest comes to visit us, something strange always happens. You guys should stop sending us troopers – take pity on the Ukies! Just look – Topaz happened to come by for a tour, and the TV tower fell all of a sudden. Zmey is expected in a couple of days – I am scared to imagine what will happen …
09:44 Briefing from the Militia
Well, it looks like the Ukie advance has begun.A few hours ago, Ukie ground attack jets conducted a rocket-bomb strike on the Belenkoye village near Kramatorsk.
In LPR, there are battle in the area of Zheltoye settlement, in the Metallist settlement (a suburb of Lugansk) and in the Stanitsa Luganskaya.
There is also fighting in the area of Krasniy Partisan (near the Russian Gukovo).
Artillery shelling of Snezhnoye and Saur-Mogila has commenced. The same goes of Rubezhnoye.
11:48 Briefing from Igor Strelkov
Last night Slavyansk (Artyom settlement, Tselinniy, Severniy), Nikolayevka and Kramatorsk were subject to intensive shelling. A lot of destruction and wounded among the civilian population. Gas pipelines were smashed. There are no casulaties among the Militia.In the morning, Kramatorsk was bombed by the enemy aviation. I have no information about the results [of the bombing] – we have no communications with Kramatorsk [at this time].
Half an hour ago, Nikolayevka was shelled with Grad MLRS. We are determining casualty information.
There is fighting near Donetsk – there Ukies commenced an advance, which has been in the works for some time. We also have no communications with them.
We have information that Ukies started a tank advance against Seversk.
Tanks, artillery and infantry are being concentrating in our area. We will also be preparing for an assault.
11:57 Briefing from Igor Strelkov
Ukies shelled Piskunovka with artillery. It is a small village where we never had a garrison (it’s in neutral territory). There are multiple fires now. What’s most interesting is that a few days ago the residents [of the village] came out onto the streets and refused to let our militiamen pass, saying “get way from here – we don’t want them to shoot us.” So, our guys did not set up any positions there. Didn’t help.
14:18 Briefing from Igor Strelkov
Just now, a vehicle with humanitarian aid was fired upon. It barely managed to escape on flats. They decided to strangle us with the “bony hand of hunger” … There is at least 40,000 civilians left here – all the provisions are coming by way of humanitarian aid. And I am not even talking about the wounded.Ukies have concentrated their forces on a single direction. As if getting read for a parade. Look like they will be going for an assault … And there cannons upon cannons on top of cannons … are around are cannons and MLRS. They will start soon.
14:54 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: Gunfire can be heard the centre of Donetsk.An intensive firefight started in the centre of Donetsk near the regional police HQ, which is controlled by the Militia. At least one person has been wounded; cars parked nearby have been damaged. According to RIA Novosti, it is unknown at this time who is involved in the skirmish.
Igor Strelkov: [We are] conducting a takeover of the [building]. The rear must be cleared [and secured] before an assault [on the city] takes place.In Kramatorsk, 2 more passengers of the destroyed motor-coach have died – in total, there are 6 dead and 4 wounded from this attack.The enemy is concentrating its forces against us and against Kramatorsk.
15:10 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: On Russia 24 they just said that a unit of the field commander Bezler has taken over the police HQ in Donetsk and is refusing to obey the DPR Army – is battling against them. How can this be happening?
Igor Strelkov: Oh, in Donetsk it’s always – “either diarrhea or scrofula.” To be frank, I am really tired of hearing news from there – the news are consistently negative and always about some quarrel, squabble or the counting of chickens before they are hatched [Note: original – the division of an an unkilled bear’s skin]. To keep having internal strife in the face of an advancing enemy – it’s “the thing to do,” of course. As for me, I am long past caring who is in charge in Donetsk – as long as one person takes control. Be it Bes [Note: Bezler], Khodokovskiy, someone else. The only one I am completely oppsed to is Medvedchuk …
15:47 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: Whispering, hoping: what about yourself?
Igor Strelkov: Firmly, no.To put things in order in Donetsk, you’d need a battalion (along with me). I can’t remove a force like that from the frontlines. Besides, “restoring the order” will also turn into shooting and squabbling. And the consequence for DPR will be most negative, equally on the military and on the geopolitical front.
15:57 Commentrary from Igor Strelkov
Q: [Ukie] news – yesterday, the Ukrainian artillery destroyed a Militia training camp near Slavyansk. Over 250 people died. True or not?
Igor Strelkov: Of course it’s not true! They did not just destroy one camp, they crushed a group of camps. Not just 250, but 2,500 militiamen are dead! There are three times as many wounded … The Militia is feeing, leaving behind dozens of tanks and aircraft, while the terrorist mercenaries are joining the ranks of the Ukrainian military en masse.
18:00 Briefing from Igor Strelkov
Igor Strelkov: In the course of the night from June 30 – July 1, the enemy conducted a series of artillery strikes against Slavyansk, Semyonovka, Nikolayevka, and Kramatorsk, using howitzer, mortars and Grad MLRS. In all the settlements there is significant destruction and wounded.In the morning, in the course of an artillery strike on Kramatorsk, a motor coach was hit. Four civilians died on the spot; two more died of their wounds at the hospital. Four more were wounded. The city was also attacked [from the air] by a Su-25 [ground attack jet].
In the course of the day on July 1, the enemy continued shelling all of the above-mentioned settlements; two militiamen were wounded. Our return strike at an enemy column that advanced into the area of Kombikormoviy destroyed and/or damaged 3 trucks with ammunition and 2 refuelling vehicles.
In the first half of the day, the enemy attempted to attack the positions of the Militia staffed by personnel from Mozgovoi’s Lisichansk Battalion in the area of the city of Seversk. The attack was repelled with significant losses [to the enemy]; two APCs were hit and burned down. The enemy returned the favour by continuing to shell Seversk with heavy artillery.
19:33 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: Ukies are silent about the losses today. Looks like they are not insignificant. They may be waiting to take control of a small village, to publically claim a victory and add their losses at the end, [in small print].
Igor Strelkov: On the northern front we had two successful attacks:Mozgovoi’s fighters repelled a Ukie attack on Seversk, routing and dispersing an armoured scouting party. Two APCs were burned down and were left on the battlefield; three others fled in different direction. The enemy also suffered substantial losses in manpower.Our Nonas shelled a column of the enemy near the entrance to the Kombikormoviy checkpoint. With a high degree of certainty, we can claim the destruction of 3 trucks with artillery ammunitions and 2 refuelling vehicles. In return, the enemy conducted massive shelling of Slavyansk, Semyonovka and Cherevkovka, causing repeated destruction in the industrial and the residential sectors. There are no losses among militiamen.
19:39 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: (thoughtfully) Wasn’t there just one [Nona], if I recall correctly …
Igor Strelkov: We restored the one we hit and captured near Yampol.
20:02 Information from the Militia
According to information from sources on the border between LPR and the Russian Federation, fierce battles continue near Izvarino. Militiamen have several “200s” (about 10 men) and “300s.” The enemy lost 6 T-64 tanks and a number of APCs that were destroyed by the Militia. The number of dead among the Junta troops is unknown. At this time, the Militia is continuing to hold positions near the [border] crossing, the battles continue.Saur-Mogila is being subjected to intense artillery shelling and airstrikes. During one of the attempts, a Junta aircraft missed and the rockets went past Saur Mogila, hitting the settlement of Dmitrovka. There are casualties among the civilian population.
19:47 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: Ukies (NazGuard) are reporting that they have taken Zakotnoye under control. Igor Ivanovich, is this serious?
Igor Strelkov: But [the settlement] was not controlled by anyone. Our patrols would show up there from time to time.
19:28 Infromation from LPR
Bolotov stated at a press-conference in Lugansk that the Militia have taken full control of the Lugansk airport.
20:33 Information from the Ukrainian Armed Forces
We are dealing with the TV Tower at this moment. There was special equipment [on the TV Tower] that enabled us to correct artillery shelling and perform scouting and monitoring of the surroundings over a radius of several dozen kilometres. The toppling of the TV Tower has foiled our plans. The army is once again blind.
22:32 Briefing from the Militia
Badass Soldier: As of this time, the self-defence unit at Izvarino, under Strelkov’s jurisdiction, has destroyed an additional 2 BMP APCs, 2 Ural trucks, 1 BTR APC, and 2 mortars.
22:36 Eyewitness Reports from Location
Slavyansk was hit with high-calibre shells. In one of the buidings in the Artyom district the entranceway was smashed to bits. There are dead and wounded.Sharpnel charges came from Kombikormoviy. There is destruction at 4 Bulvarnaya street and 7 & 9 Volnaya street. A women died; there are also 3 wounded. Poroshenko is a “hero.”
According to an eyewitness:
At 7 Volnaya street, 3rd entranceway, 2nd floor – one dead, two wounded. At 4 Bulvarnaya street, 3rd entranceway, from 1st to 5th floor there is enormous destructions (looks like that hit a gas pipe) – one wounded (a grandma was freed from under the rubble. At 9 Volnaya street, window panes have been blown out. As well:
– School No. 10 was hit;
– boiler-room buiding in Artyom district, behind “Salyut” store, was hit;
– the roof of the “Salyut” store was hit;
There is information that there was 10 Bulvarnaya street was also hit.
According to DTEK Donetskoblenergo, Slavyansk has been entirely deelectrified as a result of shelling by the Ukrainian army.
18:50-23:30 Briefing from the Militia
18:50 (MSK) – Shelling is continuing from the direction of the northern part of Krasniy Liman. According to confirmed information, a frog [Note: MI-8] and a Su-25 were shot down over the territory of Lugansk. Accordingly, 4 air targets were destroyed today.19:25 (MSK) – In Lugansk, the civil defence siren has come on. A Su ground attack jet is coming in for an attack. Another Su conducted airstrikes with NARs [Note: unguided air-to-ground rockets] against Stanitsa Luganskaya. Fire was opened in return; however, the aircraft escaped unharmed.
19:35 (MSK) – A unit of Su ground attack jets flew over the area of military engagement in Konstantinovka, coming from the direction of Artyomovsk.
20:05 (MSK) – A battery of heavy artillery is conducting strikes from the turn onto Svyatogorsk. Just now we received information that yet another aircraft was shot down over Raigorodok.
20:25 (MSK) – In the area of Zakotnoye there is a battle; KPVT is heard working; there are explosions. Overall, there are multiple maneuver-centric battles currently ongoing in LPR and DPR; the main events are taking place on the border with the Russian Federation, near Lugansk, at Saur Mogila, and in the area of Krasniy Liman-Yampol-Zakotnoye-Slavyansk. Shelling of Hero-Cities is being conducted using all kinds of weapons that Ukies have concentred in the military theatre; aviation is being widely used. In addition, Praviy Sector goons arrived today in Krasniy Liman on two buses (up to a company in total).
22:10 (MSK) – Artillery strikes are being conducted against Metallist.
23:00 (MSK) – A maneuver-centric engagement is taking place near Shurovo.
23:30 (MSK) – An explosion and automatic weapons’ fire on the south side of Krasniy Liman.
22:55 Information from a Reliable Contact
Indeed, there were Bezler’s men. The key goal of todays skirmish was Pozhidayev. He has been detained. There are no longer any police in Donetsk that are subordinated to Kiev. There will no longer be any shooting at police.Some militiamen decided that they are more militiamen than others. They took an initiative that was not requested. As of this time, all the differences have been settled in negotiations, there are no more problems.
23:39 Preliminary Data Regarding Ukrainian LossesManpower Losses: 14 in total – 8 in Donetsk and 6 in LPRDestroyed Military Equipment:
– 2 tanks at Karlovka
– 6 T-64 tanks near the LPR/Russia border
– 1 BTR-80 APC in Lugansk
– 8 BMP/BTR APCs near the LPR/Russia border
– 2 BTR APCs near Seversk
– 2 BMP APCs near Izvarino
– 1 Su-25 shot down over Snezhnoye
– 1 Su-24 and 1 Su-25 shot down over Lugansk
– 3 trucks with artillery ammunition destroyed in Slavyansk
– 2 refuelling trucks destroyed in Slavyansk
– 2 Ural trucks near Izvarino
– 2 mortars near Izvarino
Note: some source suggest, with a high degree of certainty that Ukraine lost 5 Su aircraft, 1 MI-8 helicopter, and that a further 2 Su jets were substantially damaged.
23:51 Commentary from Igor Strelkov
Q: They are really starting to hit Saur-Mogila – the guys are real heroes to live through a night like that and then until 14:00 – I counted at least 20 Grad volleys. Looks like they might have downed a Su jet as well. Who is their commander, he really deserves respect?
Igor Strelkov: Their commander is “Prapor” – my close friend and comrade-in-arms from Transnistria.
00:07 Commentary from Igor StrelkovQ: So, does it mean that they downed a third Su today? Or are we talking about the one over Stanitsa Luganskaya? Plus, we are patiently awaiting authoritative commentary on the situation between Bezler and Borodai.
Igor Strelkov: I am not certain either with respect to the 1st, or the 2nd, or the 3rd Su, as I [personally] did not report anything of the sort today (for clarity, here I will answer only with respect to the information I state personally, and not the information provided elsewhere by someone claiming to speak from my name). They were downed or damaged not in my area. Accordingly, I have no right to comment on this issue. The Ukrainian armed forces have confirmed that one of their aircraft was downed – that means that at leas one of them was indeed damaged.As for the situation with Bezler, Borodai, etc., I will not comment on it in any way. One thing I know for sure is that they will be doing backflips at the ATO HQ reading statements like those above. I only hope that this squabble will not reflect on what we do in our area.
In a comment thread on Veterans Today (which publishes political material out of Russian institutes), a Slavic-sounding commenter named ‘Oleg’ openly says that Putin is in rapid danger being kicked out of power if he does not quickly act to save the Russians of Novorossiya … because the Russian nationalism that Putin has helped to awaken, is a far bigger force than Putin himself now
Oleg was responding to a comment saying Putin is the Russian sovereigntist, Medvedev the Atlanticist (thus representing the pro-EU oligarchs who are blocking rescue of Novorossiya).
The hint is that Putin’s replacement may come from those supporting Aleksandr Dugin’s ‘Eurasianism’ – the hot-tempered Russian version of what France’s Charles De Gaulle advocated, a natural Continental alliance (France-Germany-Russia) resisting the Anglo sea-power pirate nations (USA, UK and their satellites such as Israel).
Oleg wrote:
« At the moment when Putin abandoned military involvement in Novorussia the Russian media started mass attack … and begun selling many apologetic theories. Putin put himself into leader’s show, inspired and united Russians. He did remarkable thing – returned sense of dignity to most of Russians. Now he does not have way back.
His position regarding Novorossia is very damaging. One can speculate that this is Putin’s political and diplomatic ingenuity but it must bring tangible results. Even his lexicon, when he refers EU or US counterparts as “colleagues” is appalling to me, just imagine how it accepted by Russians.
If he will not support this sentiment he will be gone – there are other people in politics who are capable of replacing him. »
I’m humbled by your courage.
This is what the destructin looks like – RT article with pics and vid.
Q: If he will not support this sentiment he will be gone – there are other people in politics who are capable of replacing him.
R: Ever wondered where ‘mom’ would be without him?
Okay, from the New York Times:
“The statement [by Russia] went on to accuse the government of President Petro O. Poroshenko of the “physical annihilation of citizens of their own country” and, citing the evacuation of an orphanage in the Luhansk region, said, “the Ukrainian authorities do not even care about the fate of small children.
Even in the context of the deeply embittered relations between the Kremlin and the government in Kiev, the Russian statement was unusually harsh and signaled blistering outrage in Moscow over the renewed military effort to end the rebellion.”
I’m afraid we are approaching the endgame. The polite armed men in green are coming and coming soon. This will not last much longer. I hope the CIA is happy. This is what they wanted. Now, they’ve got it.
“Do I understand it correctly that the TV tower succumbed to a purely natural disaster – hurricane winds and hail?”
This translation makes it sound like the question referred to actual natural disasters. These are the “hurricane”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-27_Uragan
and “hail”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-21_Grad
in question.
Anonymous, 21:06
Putin will be re-elected by 75% in 2018. Oleg will be cashing checks in Langley, Virginia and appearing on CNN with “expert opinions” while he bemoans the fact that he is worried about Russia beating the U.S. to Mars.
Give us all a break and give up on Putin is going to be overthrown by any group.
The sound you hear is Kiev and Euromaidan crashing to the ground.
Explain who took out the Ukie air defense base overnight on the outskirts of the Cretaceous – village Ravniago.
It wasn’t militia. Maybe Oleg can give you a heads up on that.
It sounds to me like Russian special forces sent my VV Putin took out the missile system so “friendly” aircraft from Russia could fly a few missions.
Low budget “No Fly Zone” by Putin.
Don’t come back with weak smack on Putin.
You are way over your pay rate.
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I have seen photographic evidence of Ukraine using 300 mm BM-30 Smerch MRLS with cluster munitions.
– Kramatorsk
– 9N235 submunition in Kramatorsk
– Krasnogorka (I have no idea where this place is. Wikipedia knows multiple villages in Ukraine named “Krasnogorka” but none of them in Donbass.)
For comparison see these articles on Syria:
– Brown Moses: Evidence Of The Syrian Military Deploying BM-30 Smerch Launched Cluster Munitions
– ARES: 9M55K Cargo Rockets and 9N235 Submunitions in Syria
Video from June 22 shown a column of 12 BM-30 Smerch launcers in Melitopol
– https://youtu.be/9g_K97a405A
– https://youtu.be/Yin2i1vR5-U
The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities | The Nation
“The regime has repeatedly carried out artillery and air attacks on city centers, creating a humanitarian catastrophe—which is all but ignored by the US political-media establishment.”
by Stephen F. Cohen
The suggestion to send links showing the true state of affairs in Novorussia to agents of the zionist controlled mainstream media is not just a waste of time- it actually represents a kowtowing to the very monsters directly responsible for the atrocities.
Zionist propagandists that promote NATO and US/EU lies about Ukraine are actually more evil than most of those neo-Nazis thugs from Kiev. The neo-Nazi thugs at least (mostly) have the excuse of low intelligence and poor education. Those ‘journalists’ that work for the BBC, Guardian, NYT, CNN etc., see themselves as ‘warriors’ for Israel, and the elites of the USA and UK.
It is easy for people who visit sites like this one to THINK they see a certain small amount of truth in mainstream media coverage, but this perception only happens because such people are sensitive to such reports. On the other hand, ordinary, naive users of the zionist controlled news outlets receive only the ‘loudest’ reports carried by these outlets- and the message they get is that Russia is the ‘aggressor’ and that Russia is looking for an opportunity to invade all the ex-Soviet States in Europe.
Meanwhile, NATO and the USA will provide Kiev with the money, men and arms required to ‘win’, no matter what the Humans of Novorussia do, even with covert assistance from Russia. Look how the Humans of Syria, with Russia’s help, have repulsed wave after wave of American terrorists, yet Syria is further away from victory than ever as a never ending terror war grinds down every aspect of Syrian society.
Once wars were ‘finite’, fought with finite resources. The logic of the US war machine, and its proxies, is that the USA can fight an unending ‘long war’- as they named the strategy after the false-flag of 9/11. NATO wants to see the concept of the ‘long war’ applied first to Ukraine, and then to the other areas of East Europe.
America banks on the other Super Powers sitting back, and relying at most on covert action. So, for instance, the USA occupies Saudi Arabia- ensuring no people’s movement could ever displace the unthinkably evil regime that rules there. But Russia won’t do the same thing for Syria, no matter how much the population of Syria would welcome the Russian Federation placing some of their military bases in that nation,ending the terror war.
Not that Russia had much success, in the old days, emulating the USA. In my naive youth I easily fell for the propaganda depicting the Soviets as the ‘villains’ during their ‘invasion’ of Afghanistan. But times change, and Russia would discover that the perception of Russia and the USA amongst ordinary people has frequently reversed.
Sadly, just as the naive poster who suggests the zionist mainstream media can be ‘persuaded’ to report fairly misses the reason the mainstream media is so biased in the first place- Putin is dead wrong to think anyone can play the West at its own game and win (or even draw). Like a dishonest casino, the West ensures the game is irredeemable rigged in favour of the house, but at the same time is irresistibly tempting to arrogant ‘intellectuals’ that think they can best the house.
There is no-one that matters sitting on the fence with regard to Novorussia, waiting to be swayed by the evidence. So letting the situation there deteriorate cannot improve Russia’s position in the slightest. All the people that WOULD support such a move by Russia already hold that opinion. Waiting simply gets more innocent people killed, emboldens NATO and their neo-Nazi allies, and increasingly destabilises the entire region as the days progress.
Devastating destruction, village in Lugansk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiNf8N41mLo
I am against violence under any circumstances so what I think the partisans in the east should hammer home by all means available is, the minimum conditions for a “stay in place” cease fire. Those conditions should be transmitted to every EU decision maker. Without an exit strategy to this, Ukrainians who just want to live and work in all the regions will be the victims of sophomoric Neanderthal blood lust. By the way; the tribalism and casual demagoguery on this site, combined with the voyeuristic fatalism is truly disturbing. This is the gestalt that feeds the beast. Peace is the only way!
Petri Krohn said…02 July, 2014 22:31
“Krasnogorka (I have no idea where this place is. Wikipedia knows multiple villages in Ukraine named “Krasnogorka” but none of them in Donbass.)”
Try Kramatorsk/Krasnogorsk:
http://www.dlinaputi.ru/Kramatorsk/Krasnogorsk
Looks like the northern Donetsk region.
“For comparison see these articles on Syria:
– Brown Moses: Evidence Of The Syrian Military Deploying BM-30 Smerch Launched Cluster Munitions”
Brown Moses is one of those sites created by the western(1) security services to disseminate their disinformation. Anything found on that site is very unreliable, at the least.
(1) Sad I have to censor myself here now and avoid the obvious, especially when it comes to Syria.
According to ZeroHedge, of the First Tranche of $3 billion USD, all of it is goingo to Ukrainian Banks, with 40% = $1.2 billion going to Poroshenko’s bank.
It is quite likely that without these funds, Poroshenko’s bank would be Bankrupt.
This specifically means that Poroshenko is personally benefiting from the IMF loan package, that none of the first funds are earmarked for repaying GazProm.
More recent reports of Naftogaz hoping to make Ukraine into a gas hub, confirms my earlier reports that the NATO strategy is to construct pipelines from Georgia to Ukraine to carry Caspian Gas/Oil to the EU bypassing Russia.
Now to the opportunity this presents:
1. Novorossiya should declare a jubilee for the express purpose of making all loans to Ukrainian Banks worthless, and making the banks bankrupt, and ineligible to syndicate those loans for IMF funds.
2. Novorossiya should pass laws protecting worker salaries, which give control of Firms that don’t pay salaries to the state, with the state reorganizing them into employee run coops.
3. Novorossiya should blow all the pipeline crossings across the Denieper, Bug, and Denister Rivers, and the bridges too.
4. Novorossiya should nationalize all housing, and promise it’s population that first allocation of housing will be to veterans, those who fought the Putschists, with those who show great bravery getting further perks, and those who cut and run getting nothing.
5. Novorossiya should create it’s own currency, ban use of the Hyrvina.
INDY
Another question: Who was the first person to call himself a “Zhido-Banderist”? Perhaps you coined the term?
No. The copyright to that term is unknown. But as soon as I heard it, I said that I’d rather be called a “Zhido-Banderist” than a “Zhido-Muscovite.” But in all seriousness, in the two and a half months I spent at Maidan, I never heard anyone use the word zhid — not regarding me and not regarding anyone else.
To tell you the truth, during the first few days, I didn’t tell people I was Jewish. Like Queen Esther, who didn’t say anything about her origins. But gradually I decided to come out of the shadows, and began to tell people about my “Zhido-Banderist” origins, about my “Israeli aggressor” past and future. I was shocked by the reaction. People called me “brother.” Everyone. Simply “brother.” I have photographs of me together with different fighting units, from the ultra-nationalist “Svoboda” and other groups. They always greeted me with “Shalom.” And now when I meet them on the street, in civilian clothes, we hug each other.
http://forward.com/articles/195785/the-ukrainian-revolution-s-unlikely-street-fight/#ixzz36I6NPlQM
The developing Russian-Geran alliance.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-02/emerging-german-russian-axis
Anonymous 23:33
But Putin *isn’t* playing their game: that’s the point. He’s outplaying them by refusing to play by their rules or do what they want. He’s playing a different game entirely, and winning by being the moral voice among (all) nations, by developing a counter-system to our global hegemony, by (see his speech yesterday) speaking truth to power, by presenting facts and decent options. If he goes in, then he starts playing our game. But he hasn’t yet and I’m guessing that if he does, it may not be Crimea v.2.0, but it’ll be equally effective. He’s moral, intelligent, knowledgeable, thorough, savvy and sane. Unlike us in all regards.
It’s just hard watching all this suffering and WANTING him to stop it — but it’s got to be done, if it is done, in the right way, at the right time, or he’d have true hell to pay both inside Ukraine and with us unleashing the military, economic, terroristic and God only knows whatever other options we would choose. Just look around: we don’t play nice.
Anonymous 23:56
Huh?
вот так
I’m sad you have to censor yourself too! I guess it’s a small (?) price to pay but slamming those bots can be so intensely satisfying, especially to those of us who’ve been on the receiving end of their swarms sometimes. And they’re so danged easy to slam, too…
Dr. George Oprisko,
Those sound like TERRIFIC ideas, all of them! Wonder if there’s some way they could be submitted to the Novorossiyan leadership, now that they’ve set all that up. It’d sure be worth a try!
Anonymous 01:30
Consider the source, but at least we’ve got good confirmation of The New Party Line.
Dr. George Oprisko: Excellent idea, for the Novorussian resistance needs not only to crush not only the nazi freaks, but the US gangster capitalists motivating them.
Lot of good options for Novorussia on the ground and politically. Definitely – destroy the current economic system and conduct full-on guerilla warfare at the right times and right places. Work on a political program for the people, state capitalism with a future-oriented, human rights guaranteeing, international law orientation, a special free trade regime to interact with EU/Russia – something closer to what could be a model for the rest of the country, something attractive to Odessa, Kharkiv and also the youth. Something not only better than ‘democracy’ but better than the current version of Russian government. Living up to the potential of the name Novorussia, it can be great.
“Now to the opportunity this presents:
1. Novorossiya should declare a jubilee for the express purpose of making all loans to Ukrainian Banks worthless, and making the banks bankrupt, and ineligible to syndicate those loans for IMF funds.
2. Novorossiya should pass laws protecting worker salaries, which give control of Firms that don’t pay salaries to the state, with the state reorganizing them into employee run coops.
3. Novorossiya should blow all the pipeline crossings across the Denieper, Bug, and Denister Rivers, and the bridges too.
4. Novorossiya should nationalize all housing, and promise it’s population that first allocation of housing will be to veterans, those who fought the Putschists, with those who show great bravery getting further perks, and those who cut and run getting nothing.
5. Novorossiya should create it’s own currency, ban use of the Hyrvina.” Dr. George Opisko
It would be great if these ideas can be shared with as many people in Novorossiya as possible.
Perhaps Saker can publish them on the front page and keep them there for a day or two.
@Nora and BOT TAK
´I’m sad you have to censor yourself too!´
In my opinion there is really no need for self censoring here, but to remain convincing, one has to use elementary debating skills:
Use facts and sources (absolutely no criticism here!!!) and not using logical fallacies.
There is no logical fallacy in your argumentation, but some choices of words implies a godwin (which is considered the champion of logical fallacies).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
And yes, the origin is VERY suspect: extreme zionist and neocon philosophers, like Leo Strauss, but Godwin himself has done a lot for internet free speech.
Anyway, good or bad, this has become the norm in debate (by invoking, one automatically loses the argument). This makes terminology like ´zionazis´ toxic.
See how much effort the Saker has to use to describe parallels between WWII and the current situation, and is still accused both of being an anti-semite and a zionist.
Unnecessary toxic vocabulary, which implies Godwin´s law has the effect of ´poisoning the well´ (an infamous hasbara strategy):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
Anonymous @ 21-06 July 2nd 2014
You appear to be oblivious to the role and utility of disinformation.
During the 1990’s some including Vladimir Zhirinovsky acted as a foil to Boris Yeltsin’s “team” giving Yeltsin’s “team” the opportunity to delay some measures demanded/proposed by the present opponents – Zuyganov took over this mantle when Zhirinovsky’s credibility had been “compromised”.
It also allowed others to build the base in “Russia” i.e. outside Moscow and St. Petersburg.
Is Zhirinovsky reprising a former role?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2yTPME9-JA
“Daniel Rich said…
Q: If he will not support this sentiment he will be gone – there are other people in politics who are capable of replacing him.
R: Ever wondered where ‘mom’ would be without him?”
lol, you made my day! ~:)
Dust In The Wind Lyrics:
I close my eyes
Only for a moment and the moment’s gone
All my dreams
Pass before my eyes with curiosity
Dust in the wind
All we are is dust in the wind
Same old song
Just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do
Crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Mr. Zhido-Banderist @ 03 July, 2014 01:30
They always greeted me with “Shalom.” And now when I meet them on the street, in civilian clothes, we hug each other.
It’s all too clever, too sympathetic to be credible.
This story smells Zhido-Trollish.
Nora said…03 July, 2014 02:42
Thanks.
Have you ever looked over the Syrian Perspective site? They are very detailed on news inside Syria. Like here, one can find further information from the comments, and some people you might recognise from this site comment at SyrPer, also. This is the latest article there:
MAJOR ADVANCES IN ALEPPO
http://www.syrianperspective.com/2014/07/major-advances-in-aleppo.html