First, I found out that BitChute also blocks videos showing combat operations in videos made by Russians. Rumble did not, at least so far, so in the future I will stick with Rumble to post “politically incorrect” or otherwise “offensive” videos. Still, the only viable solution here is to have a video hosting service in a sovereign country.
Next, I cannot go into details here and now, but this is something very interesting: the GreyZone reports about “Declassified intelligence files expose inconvenient truths of Bosnian war“. For the original source for this info, please see here.
At the time of the NATO war against the Serbian nation I was working for the UN Institute for Disarmament Research, a kind of a UN think tank for the Conference of Disarmament. While this institute was not part of UNPROFOR, we had access to internal UNPROFOR documents. Furthermore, at that time I also had access to classified documents from the Swiss Strategic Intelligence Service. Finally, and unbeknownst to my various bosses, I also had personal friends who were Serbs and Russians with access to all sorts of interesting info. In other words, at the time I *knew* for a fact that the media was lying about this war and I can now personally confirm the following (though I cannot offer any proof):
- The bombings of the Markale market in Sarajevo were false flag operations and the UNPROFOR specialists in the field saw through the propaganda and reported that up the chain of command which, of course, classified and ignored these reports.
- The “Srebrenica genocide” never happened, but scores of Muslims did get killed, most while retreating through the woody hills towards Gorazde and in some cases there were executions of POW, the latter were ordered by CIA plants in the Milosevic administration. It was a carefully prepared PSYOP to give the West a reason to attack for “humanitarian reasons”, the same role MH17 fulfilled years later.
- The (in)famous Racak massacre never happened. The EU monitors quickly realized that and they did report this up their own chain of command which, of course, classified and ignored these reports. Except that some of these folks were friends of mine and told me the truth :-) What actually happened was a gun battle between KLA terrorists and Serbian units.
- Just like in the Ukraine today, the West pumped a lot of money, weapons and “volunteers” into Bosnia, in direct violation of plenty of UNSC Resolutions. The entire UN was hijacked, which was made especially easy with clowns like Eltsin or Kozyrev sitting in the Kremlin.
- When NATO and the Croats attacked the UNPAs in Croatia, the UNPROFOR forces were ordered by their respective national commands to step aside and not interfere. The Serbs had agreed to give over their heavy weapons and be placed under the “protection” of the UN. We all know what happened after that.
- NATO provided aircraft to bring in hundreds of flights of al-Qaeda terrorists into Bosnia, working hand in hand with Turkey and, alas, Iran (Iran’s stance on Bosnia is, in my opinion, the worst mistake ever made by the Islamic Republic who did not have the courage to resist the hysterics in the Muslim world triggered by US PSYOPs).
- EU “observers” were mostly officers of Western intelligence agencies. The same goes for a lot of personnel in the so-called “humanitarian” organizations, especially MSF. And, of course, this is also true for many “journalists”. Still, while some of them *did* very honestly report what they saw, many were simply collecting intelligence and even participating in covert support for the Wahhabis in Bosnia (and Chechnia, by the way).
Bill Clinton’s statue in Pristina
Why is this important today? Because we have many of the same actors operating in the Ukraine and elsewhere. A perfect example would be the EU or IAEA “observers”. Here is the deal: those “monitors” and “observers” who do an honest job of reporting what they see will have their reports tossed down the memory hole and they will be silenced because they cannot reveal state secrets or make classified info public (Snowden anybody?) As for the rest of them, I am referring to intelligence officers collecting info or, worse, aiding the terrorists, their actions are, by definition, harmful.
For these reasons I think that Russia should kick out any and all Western (Zone A) “observers” and not collaborate with any AngloZionist controlled agencies such as the IAEA, the OPCW, any and all EU bodies/organizations, any Western “aid” organizations, etc. etc. etc.
Furthermore, I also think that Russia, China and Iran should create a multi-national observer battalion ready to be deployed in combat areas which involve Russian, Chinese or Iranian interests. Further down the road, these three countries could invite other countries, but only if their national leaders have true sovereignty and are not comprador administrators for their colonial masters.
We should also understand the role of the likes of Izetbegovic, Guaido, Tikhanovskaia or, for that matter, “Ze”: their function is NOT to seek the best for their people, but it is to justify an endless war.
The truth about the AngloZionist war on the Serbian nation will, eventually, trickle out. In fact, even during the war, some observers (I think of Michel Collon here, but there are others) did write very good and truthful accounts of what was taking place, they were just simply ignored by the official state propaganda (aka the “free press”). However, just as with the case of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, JFK, 9/11 and so many other false flags, that truth will come way too late to remedy anything. Folks in the West are so used to lies, that they accept them as some kind of inevitable side effect of politics. We do, indeed, live in a post-truth society, at least those of us in Zone A.
Andrei
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As usual, I will share some “music for the week-end” with you.
First, Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson play “If” live:
Next, Joanie Madden interprets “Simple Praise”
Next, Andrey Korolev interprets “At home amongst strangers”
Finally, Evgeny Zarafiants interprets one of my favorite compositions of one of my favorite composers: Prelude Op.16 – No.4 in E flat minor by Alexander Scriabin:
Why did the Empire cause the destruction of Yugoslavia and the war in those statelets? I can clearly see what they are up to in Iraq, Syria and Ukraine, but Yugoslavia was the start of it all I think. Was it the beginning of now, of trying to plague Russia??
Many reasons. Divide in conquer would be a top reason. Then opening Camp Bondsteel to threaten the entire Balkan region and the Mediterranean. Than there is the normal AngloZionist hatred of Orthodox people, especially Slavs. Then there was the Strobe Talbott idea of “showing what we can do to a Russian ally and suggest we can do the same to the Russians next”. The US also had thousands of al-Qaeda fighters out of a job, so why not unleash them in Bosnia? Then the Germans and the Latins, who loved Pavelic, supported Croatian Nazis just like the support the Nazis in the Ukraine. Also, NATO needed a raison d’être for its continued existence. Last but not least, Serbians never considered themselves as Europeans, so the Europeans have hated them for that, for their patriotism, their courage and their piety. And let’s not forget the Ottomans whom the West always supported against Orthodox countries.
And, always remember, the West has fought Orthodox Christianity since about 1000 years and Russia since about 800.
There really is nothing new under the sun…
This is from Jonathan Lee’s Vice book “Bud of Evil”
If you tell me where the beginning of the infinite is, I will agree … if something is infinite then it has no beginning or end … we have enclosed ourselves in earthly space, and the stellar universe is infinite … One of the most brilliant European minds was Nicholas Tesla … he realized that you cannot limit space and that the power of the infinite is tame if you overcome your own bodily and
material requirements …
– I have to admit I know very little about him … I think he worked with
Edison, ”Dave interrupted.
– His misfortune was his nationality … his Orthodox cross was
is also his personal … If he was a poor European Jew, he would probably reach
borders of the universe … instead, he was the son of a poor Serbian priest …
Tell me, how many times have you heard a fairy tale about poor and humble and hardworking Jews who somehow managed to cross the Atlantic and there in a surprisingly strange way gained great wealth … Your country is full of such
manipulation of human feelings … you don’t realize that humanity has been taken over the blame for the Holocaust and thus become its prisoner …
Dietrich Hefler talked further …
– Nikola Tesla was a Serb; I must admit that I am not very fond of Serbs.
Very strange people: you can’t shape them into any world order. Although they know they are losing, without blood they will not give up any of their territory. During the Second World War, they suffered as much as the Jews … 100 Serbs were killed for 1 German soldier, Hungarian penal units slaughtered them and threw them under the Novi Sad bridge.
Bulgarians invaded their villages and killed women, children and the elderly in the most cruel way. The Croatian Ustasha army made a special knife for the slaughter of Serbs, and Catholic priests went with it, saying: “You slaughter, and we will save you from sin. ”
The Turks took their male children. They were converted by both Muslims and Catholics.
During the First World War, the French sent them cannons, but the wrong shells so that they fight longer and perish more; they sent them flour for the army mixed with sawdust and than after charge them even for the shoelaces at the end of the war. They were bombed by German planes in 1941, and by the Allies in 1944. They said “no” to the Turks, “no” to the Austro-Hungarians, they rose up against the German occupation, and against Stalin in 1948. They never wanted an alliance, a pact, or outside their borders.
In Kosovo, they stood against the Ottoman Empire to protect Europe. They rose up against Austro-Hungary to protect their faith. There is no kingdom or force, which they did not rise against.
They killed Emperor Murat and Crown Prince Ferdinand, and their own king was beheaded when he wanted to subjugate them with Austro-Hungarian policy.
It is also interesting that in all of their bloody history suffering, always reminded without its allies. They won on the battlefield, they lost at the negotiating table … they were never terrorists or anti-Semites, they love everyone equally … even they don’t step on ants because they are God’s creatures – he added disgustingly and with contempt.
Dave watched Dietrich Heffler in silence, listening to the fierceness of the obvious disobedience of a nation …
Hefler took a sip of tea and continued …
– I must admit that I really did not understand what the Serbs were defending and why they fought. I always returned to the same area around Kosovo … you know, Kosovo is a Serbian shrine, there the fiercest Serbian wars have always been fought, the greatest blows were suffered in that very place … my colleagues will agree that Serbian generals and military leaders were the best soldiers and strategists … and the motive of their defense and sacrifice was “For the cross of honor and golden freedom” …
I don’t know what today’s politicians will do with them; if I live, it will be interesting to watch … Until now, only Europeans bathed in Serbian blood, and now they
,the Americans have been pressuring various sanctions for ten years in order to weaken them.
They have not yet bloodied the hands of their soldiers, they have left it to their Croatian-Muslim-Albanian servants. The result is more than miserable: Serbs have become a kind of American nightmare. America thought that it would teach Serbs overnight … have not learned from the European experience. We have been fighting against them for centuries … – he shook his head – these people are like a phoenix: they always rise from the bloody ashes.
I must add that in that conflict I have a bit of fan passion … it’s simple irritating to see few people, and there are only so many of them that you can put them in
several larger overseas ships and move forever from the Balkans, succeeds to resist all world conquerors …
Dave put down an empty cup made of the finest Austrian porcelain … He was especially intrigued by the fact that the Serbs defended themselves so much from the Austro-Hungarians and the Germans and the Ottoman Empire, well, now from the Americans …
– Professor Hefler! … What do you know about Serbs?
– I know I don’t like them – he was almost decisive. – If there were no Serbs in the world the order would be much different today. They live in the lobby of Europe …
Because of them, Europe can not go to Asia, and America can not go to Europe … they are the guards of the door of a four-room house, in front of that door the whole world was constantly rattling with weapons and money … they do not react to either.
No secret password found yet; I am afraid that the Americans will also lose patience … Whatever is offered to the Serbs, they refuse it …
– And the profile of the people? Dave asked …
-They are absolutely unpredictable: sometimes they do perfectly what you ask of them, and then, as their proverb says, “turn the party upside down” …
They bled a lot for the sake of Europe, and no one has cried over the Serbian fate yet. The world somehow enthusiastically accepted their satanization, and no one
thought that they were simply defending themselves. You think that the Serbs give a hack because the world does not like them. Believe me, not in the least. They almost didn’t try to dissuade the world …
The Serbs consider everything that happens to them to be a kind of attack by the Antichrist on Orthodoxy, and in that fight their only ally is God … Under such pressures what they suffer, believe me, many would give it up … It seems that they are ready to endure to the end.’
“During the First World War, the French sent them cannons, but the wrong shells so that they fight longer and perish more; they sent them flour for the army mixed with sawdust and than after charge them even for the shoelaces at the end of the war.”
The French are sneaky, dishonest and dirty but I didn’t know of these specific things.
So I also believe…
It was the time when I was completely disillusioned with the left in Chile (and realized that they were captured by the dark side, that is, they were captured by the axis of evil: Wall-Street-City), when almost without exception, they blindly believed and they chanted the story of the US State Department, justifying the “humanitarian bombings”.
Some of us realized, from here, that Russia, and the entire Slavic world, not the Roman Catholics, were under a fierce attack (with great frustration, because it seemed that not even the Russians themselves realized it).
(The devil thought that he would finally have his triumph after a thousand years, but in reality it was his thousand years that were ending… but that is another topic)
Having learned to see “under the water” of the mass media, from our own reality, we knew that what was happening in Yugoslavia was an infamy with outright lies, for a change.
Remember: this is the empire of lies… and the father of lies is satan.
and don’t underestimate the need for all these US “presidents” to distract dumb plebes from white-house shenanigans: remember Clinton (that f&%#ng piece of s**t) poking his cigars into dry holes where they don’t belong (cough, lewinski, cough).
For Anglo-Zionists it is totally worth it to kill a few millions humans here and there if the local dumb sheeple get distracted from their Anglo-Zionists-in-charge corruption, promiscuity, and rapaciousness.
Could you please point me to a primer on the normal AngloZionist hatred of Orthodox people, especially Slavs? This has puzzled me for several years now.
Yugoslav/Serbian companies were also strong competitors in the construction and defense industries and they often won bids/contracts over Germany and other countries. It was Yugoslav companies which built Iraq’s underground bunkers and runways which couldn’t be destroyed by U.S. and UK “bunker buster” bombs, though they tried for years after the 1991 Gulf War. A Yugoslav/Serbian country also built Kuwait’s famous towers, and Yugoslav companies built Pakistan’s infrastructure and worked in many other countries.
By destroying Yugoslavia, German defense and construction industry profited.
Thanks Saker – another in the never ending squabbling of Europeans I guess.
“There really is nothing new under the sun…”
Indeed, as the French are fond of reminding us :” plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose”
It’s a sad thing the squabbling cock fighting pit called Europe cant realise, that it’s one thing to keep fighting among yourselves, but you are leaving an open wound for an opportunistic pathogen to wreck greater havoc than you can ever do left to yourselves. And there has surely never been such a virulent opportunistic pathogen as the USA Hegemon. If the people of Europe were able to be rational, handle differences like civilized humans instead of savages, and be united against violence, the pathogen could never have found a toe hold, and so much savagery and destruction would have been prevented.
They teach in their history that Rome was destroyed in the end by Huns and Goths who were “savages”. It seems so clear that they never really went away. They just stayed, changed their clothes, language and social niceties, but savages they remain. Those who were schismatics from the original Christianity have been about the worst savages of them all. They need to study Hermeneutics, abd Hermetic writings.
Not, I suppose that they could understand a thing anyway. :-)
Mostly because, why not? This is what neocons really live for: blood and fire and ruin and death. It’s a death cult.
As an example, just ask yourself: do you truly believe the highly publicized “mass shootings” in the US are the result of organic psychosis, or are can you believe many of them are alphabet spook wind-up toys unleashed to spread FUD at home, cowing the cowardly and attempting to demoralize and disarm those that might still have a flicker of resistance left?
The main reason for destruction, was Yugoslavias rejection of Neoliberalism, after the fall of the wall in ’89.
At the time it was a fairly successful sosialist state, with western European living standards.
I remember reading some touching words by Milosevic to Russia after ’99, something to the effect of :
‘Brothers, look what they have done to us. Take care, they will be coming for you next.’
Yes, during the USSR days Yugoslavia didn’t even jump when Stalin used to click his fingers, so there was no ways Yugoslavia was going to jump when America clicked its fingers. This was of course utterly unacceptable to the hegemon, it wanted dependent people, people who look up to the US as their savior, the US does not want people independent and indifferent to its majesty.
So the potential threat needed to be neutralized, especially its industrial and military powerhouse region, Serbia. Yugoslavia was an easy country for divide and rule tactics, with the Catholic Croats in the North and the Muslims in Bosnia and Albania, and these regional differences were used to divide Yugoslavia up.
Note that there was no ground force invasion of Yugoslavia, that was considered too risky by NATO as the Serbs had given the Nazi’s endless grief during WW2, and the Serbs were better prepared this time round. But the Serbs were not prepared for the cruise missiles and aerial bombardment which NATO unleashed on them. Virtually every single bridge, water reservoir, power station, sewage plant, etc was destroyed in Serbia. They had no choice but to surrender or allow their civilians to suffer.
They did not surrender. NATO ran out of targets. I belive the hostilites, mainly in kosovo, ended with an UN resolution after nearly 3 months of bombing. The Yugoslav army withdrew largely intact. 100 tons of DU for nothing.
So the war was not lost, but the US performed one of the first ‘colour’ revolutions via Otpor (Canvass) in the aftermath of the war.
So they managed to bring down Milosovic not with arms, but with softpower and 10+ years of sanctions.
Nato didn’t ran out of target, Serbia ran out of missiles. Without high altitude AD, way for carpet bombing was wide open.
Nato had 8 B52 bombers for that task stationed in UK. After threat that Belgrade will be flattened, Milosevic agreed to withdraw from Kosovo in exchange for staying in power until “fair” elections.
Likheterna..är slående!
Därför är det viktigt att Ryssland gör..hur ska man säga…rent hus med skräpet!
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Google-translate from mod:
Similarities..Avy striking!
Therefore, it is important that Russia does..how you should say … clean house with the garbage!
That is *exactly* what Russia is doing in the Ukraine :-)
Thank you Saker for the inside info on this infamous affair. There is a very useful book available, Joint Criminal Enterprise by Andy Wilcoxson (ISBN: 978-1-64669-637-6) whose subtitle “Why everything you were told about Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs was wrong” tells you exactly what it’s about. Wilcoxson had no axe to grind and simply wanted to find the truth. And the truth is far more tragic than the propaganda and lies we’ve been told.
Thanks for the reference. I found a book-review of it on the Saker blog;
/book-review-joint-criminal-enterprise-why-everything-you-were-told-about-slobodan-milosevic-and-the-serbs-was-wrong-by-andy-wilcoxson/
Thanks for that, I somehow must have missed the review. Or maybe my memory is even worse than I suspected. And thanks to all who helpfully added the link to the web site where the book can be obtained.
Where can I get the book? It’s not listed on Amazon and my local bookstore couldn’t locate it by the ISBN.
From Saker’s book review (link above):
JOINT CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE is available here: http://www.reissinstitute.org/en/books/joint-criminal-enterprise/
Looks like this might be another case of a ‘disappeared’ book, like Udo Ulfkotte’s “Bought Journalists” was for quite some time (now available as “Presstitutes …”).
Even AddAll’s extensive book search doesn’t find any matches on title or author! Hmmm.
But the original publisher (linked above)still shows it.
You can buy it on Ebay.
https://www.reissinstitute.org/en/home/joint-criminal-enterprise/
Excellent idea creating a new observer body by Russia China Iran. Even better would be to expand that to other areas like creation of independent sports organization, nuclear watchdog, human rights and more. Since Russian athletes stopped participating in most international events the quality of tournements like the ongoing handball championship is down. Enough is enough. Everybody have had enough of Anglozionist–Amrtican BS. Look forward to the liberation Artemovsk and beyond.
This article is spot on,i have been saying the same for years to anyone who would listen,take Srebrenica,i have read about this where i could find information,8000 men murdered was the cry,in all these years since i have never see any evidence this happened,Srebrenica was said to be a UN protected area,well there were 7000 Bosnian Muslim troops in the town,some led my the killer Naser Oric,his men had been raiding Serb villages killing thousands of civilians using Srebrenica as a base,thats one reason the Bosnian Serb army went in to stop the murders and get that rat Oric,after General Mladic went in the Serbs allowed and Muslims who wanted to leave by bus to do just that,many went to Tuzla and other Muslim areas,there was no Genocide,i believe many of the Serbs killed there were trying to break out through Serb lines,but to be honest if the Serbs had shot any of the Oric gang i would not have blamed them,they carried out some real savagery against Serbs,beheadings mutilations etc.Then we have Bill Clinton,he worked with Izetbegovic the Islamo fascist to bring thousands of Al Qaeda types into Bosnia,to me this was the start of the war in Ukraine,Ukraine is just the latest phase.
The real genocide happened to Serbs in the villages surrounding the ‘de-militarized’ UN sone in Srebrenica.
2-3000 where killed in grotesque salafi style, defensless non-combatants, mostly elderly and women.
There was surprisingly a documentary about it on Norwegian state television ages ago. Became a scandal, and I guess the career of the maker went down the toilet. It was before woke, so he might have survived.
Srebrenica was an arranged fall. All the top generals, including Naser Oric, left Srebrenica and went to Tuzla in April 1995, about 3 months before the “fall”. None of them even went back in the intervening time before the “fall”.
The trick was to get the rest of the military out. They were kept in the dark to prevent disobedience/rebelling as many wouldn’t have gone for “we are going to evacuate Srebrenica”. So for them it was “sudden” as a former soldier, interviewed in St. Louis, Missouri (where the U.S. State Department decided to settle many Bosnian Muslims) for a book about Srebrenica ‘survivors’. He is one of 3 men from an extended family who are interviewed.
He says they were ordered by their brigade commanders to leave their posts and gather at a specific place in the north of Srebrenica. He said they had strong defenses all around Srebrenica before they were asked to leave. The gathering of men numbered about 18,000, according to his estimate. This is in the range of the UN Dutch Srebrenica report of the number of men who left in the columns, heading for Tuzla.
The UN also left its posts all around Srebrenica – except at the northern part precisely where the Bosniak army/men were to leave. This shows a coordination with the UN and the Srebrenica forces and the UN watched over them as they left.
It was also the UN and Srebrenica authorities who had ordered the women to the UN base in Potocari. This was all done when there was no fighting.
The Serbs, by driving in – and they only just had to drive as there was no resistance – were going into a trap and hence could be blamed. Yet if they had realized it was a trap and stayed out, the “international community” and media would have to explain why the men all left (& there would be reports about them fighting in Serb villages along the way to Tuzla, along with them arriving in Tuzla a week later). There would also be the women at the Potocari base getting restless and wanting to go back to their homes. The UN warned them not to go back to their homes, but if the Serbs never came, many would have drifted back within a few days.
It was the UN which told the Serbs to take the Muslim women and children to Tuzla. If Serbs didn’t come then the UN would have had to take them there itself or be stuck with them in Srebrenica while the men were all in Tuzla. The Serbs obliged and sent buses with civilian bus drivers – and this despite them being under severe fuel sanctions.
The army arrived in Tuzla essentially intact – this is what their generals admitted. Many were incorporated into the Tuzla forces (Tuzla was the command for the Srebrenica forces) while others went to different countries. Thousands of the “missing men” were on Tuzla’s OSCE 1996 voters’ list. When this was discovered – I believe by the wife of a Japanese diplomat in Serbia – the lists of names were locked up.
There were men who eventually returned to Srebrenica or the area, including some of the military generals, some who went to Sarajevo or other parts of BiH, some who settled in other countries – Germany, U.S., Australia, while most stayed in Tuzla.
The vast majority men were TRANSFERRED not killed.
There were some who died in running battles on the way to Tuzla, but the most truthful independent analyses have the number around 900 at the maximum. There were also hundreds of Serbs killed in the battles with the Srebrenica soldiers going through their territory and also attacking and stealing from Serb homes along the way.
Whereas, Croats DID commit atrocities against Serbs.
Peter Handke, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature, was vilified when he condemned the NATO bombing of Serbia. He returned the prize money for winning the most important German language prize for literature to protest Germany’s involvement in the bombing.
As far as I am aware, Iranian ambassador has apologized for its country’s involvement in Bosnian conflict and urged Serbian government do deepen the relationship with Iran. This was around 2010.
REALLY?
Can you find a quote or a link to this, I would be tremendously impressed!
I will try.
I also remember this.
I believe on more than one occasion, Iran’s role in the Bosnia war have been argued by some Iranian commentators with proves that Iran knew what the West was up to in Bosnia.
What Iran tried to do in Bosnia was to save as many innocent Muslims lives as it can from being used as instrument of furthering the AngloZionist foreign policy.
I’ve followed the argument on this site, and at every time the Iranians stands have remains the same; that Iran knew what was going on and it was only trying to save lives by training some Bosnian militias in order to protect their community.
Iran trained militias were never part of those going on the offensive against the Serbs, I remember that even a Hezbollah commander Alaa Bosnia who later got martyred in Syria was also there on the ground to provide security vanguard for areas that can be protected from offensives.
And from experience, Seyyed Khamenei have never trusted the US, infact, Iran leaders always emphasized that wherever the US is going Iran should always head in the opposite direction.
What Iran tried to do in Bosnia was to save as many innocent Muslims lives
And they did that by participating in the martyrdom of the Serbian nation.
That is a disgrace.
I hope that since somebody in the Iranian government has, if not outright apologized, at least admitted that shameful mistake.
As far as I can tell no Iranian official as apologized up to date, but I hope you can furnish us with the evidence they’ve done so.
Besides it’s a duty as a Muslim to protect the oppressed if we are capable of doing it wherever they are even if they’re non Muslims.
I accept the fact that the Serbs are victims protecting themselves by fighting against the Bosniaks who are also mostly victims been used as cannon fodder by the empire and the Bosniak political elites at the time.
Iran waded into the war based on this premise; to protect those innocent Bosniaks that can be protected. Besides, atrocities were committed on both sides because the Serbs ranks were also infiltrated.
Was the Bosnia war a false flag to destroy Yugoslavia, yes. Did Iran do what it had to do to shield some innocent Muslims lives, yes.
Much like the RF- Allied Forces are cutting off supply-roads/routes to Bakhmut, CIA/NATO’s subversive actions are being cut in Zone B, where it would appear China, Russia, Iran and Allies are building lines of defence against future US sponsored skulduggery.
One only has to study recent CIA regime-change slapstick shenanigans to comprehend that it’s proxy amateur dramatics are not only failing but highly embarrassing.
Compare and contrast the fortunes of CIA (proxy militias) & WAGNER for instance, yes apples & oranges maybe, however, based on recent performance (a decade) who you gonna call when scum requires exterminating?
I sometimes wonder, not what goes through the grasshopper western gmo corn-fed minds (I’m living it), but what lurks in the minds of the 20% (or so) of Russians who don’t support Putin/country in the face of this US-NATO onslaught.
uma contribuição para o post, se for o caso.
https://www.greanvillepost.com/2015/11/29/108895/
The author is the same guy in the vid.: Corbett Report: ” 9-11 trillions, follow the money” who said he knew 9-11 was an inside job because a friend who worked in the White House told him the day before.
We Serbs welcomed our Orthodox New Year a few minutes ago. With this day, everything begins and I wish you all many more beautiful days, lots of health and happiness, and may all the dark forces disappear and take refuge from us, and the ones that won’t be easily overcome.
Andrej, almost everyone knows about Markale and Srebrenica, but like ostriches, they stick their heads in the sand. I have written a lot about Srebrenica and soon a book will be published in which many facts about it are stated in a small part. In those days, I was in the area around Srebrenica for days. The saddest thing is that thousands of survivors who went through that hell agree to be served another story and they agree to such a lie about themselves. A few dozen of them are still talking and resenting that story about Srebrenica. They were ordered to break out of the ring as best they knew how. They were left without a command. About 15,000 Muslims went to the 3,000 soldiers of Republika Srpska who made a ring around Srebrenica and guaranteed their lives if they surrendered. At the points of the breakthrough, and they broke through in 4 directions, one Serbian soldier was attacked by several dozen Muslim soldiers. In their attack on the Serbs, thousands of them died. About 8,000 crossed over to Muslim territory, many to Serbia, and some were liquidated in Srebrenica by the Muslim army because there were lists for their liquidation.
Sad to the end. The massacre scenario was deliberately created because it was needed for today’s story about genocide. Imagine the picture when thousands of people, some of whom did not even have firearms, attack a unit of about a hundred people. Those Serbian soldiers, of course, do not want their deaths so that those who are attacking can walk over their corpses. The slaughterhouse is safe, but the English will not die in it, they are just screenwriters.
electronic translation
Yes, this is all true.
They were “left without command” because getting the command out of Srebrenica and to Tuzla was the first step of the arranged fall. The U.S. had decided to wrap up the war by spring 1995 and to do that they needed to separate the warring factions more neatly. They wouldn’t have been able to keep peace with a military armed to the teeth in the middle of a Serb area. The rank-and-file were kept in the dark so as to not prevent then from rebelling and getting angry at the idea. The top commanders, including Oric, were helicoptered out of Srebrenica to Tuzla in April 1995. There are photos of Naser Oric in Tuzla, and in uniform, in late April 1995. The command was taken out and kept out.
For the rest, the “fall” was sudden, as one of the men who left in the columns described it in an interview. He said they were ordered by their brigade commanders to leave their posts and gather at a specified place in the north. He said, up until then, they had strong defenses all around Srebrenica. Simultaneously, the UN was leaving their posts, and they and the Bosniaks were often stationed next to each other. It was during this time that a Bosniak threw a grenade at a UN tank and it got into the tank and killed a Dutch soldier, the only soldier to die during the fall.
At the northern spot, there were up to 18,000 men gathered, according to the interviewed man. He says they were to leave but there were too many to leave at once, so they broke into 3 groups. The first group left at 11:00 p.m., while his group, the 3rd, didn’t leave until around 6:00 a.m. He says they left single-file so that is why it took so long. But he goes on a bit about how all those hours men were walking out so it was a huge number of men. There was not fighting with the Serbs when they were asked to leave their positions and while they waited to leave and while they left Srebrenica.
It was only after they crossed into Serbs lines that there were some big fights. He arrived at Tuzla about a week later and met up with his wife and child.
Some of the men, including Srebrenica’s generals, were incorporated into the Tuzla forces.
‘…the Islamic Republic who did not have the courage to resist the hysterics in the Muslim world triggered by US PSYOPs’
Exactly the same playbook that is being used against Myanmar. The so-called Rohingya are just Bangladeshi economic migrants, the Rohingya liberation fighters are simply CIA created terrorists and Aung San Suu Kyi is a hapless MI6 tool (despite the fact that her own father was murdered by the British).
Just as in Bosnia most Muslims swallow this garbage hook, line and sinker and as a result take a very militant stance against Burmese Buddhists. The Tatmadaw themselves couldn’t care less about CIA PSYOPs, armed Bangladeshis or the opposition of the Muslim world. The Burmese are an Eastern Himalayan people who are ethnically similar to the Gurkhas (yet again it seems that nobody in the beltway reads history books).
Rohingya have been there for 150-200 years. We in the modern world are used to nationalism. Where unique nations form borders to isolate themselves. This is a unique point in history. For most of history this has not been so. Cultures gradually change across borders. One permeates the other.
Please provide references for any mention of the word ‘Rohingya’ in any media prior to 1945. There has been a small Muslim minority in Arakan for a thousand years but they all speak Burmese. None of these Bangladeshis speak a single word of Burmese. Rohingya actually means Arakanese in Bengali. Please do some meaningful research or at at least have something worthwhile to add before posting.
On reflection I can see that you do actually have a point to make (aside from from your evidence free proclamation about the Rohingya).
In this regard I can only speak for my own people, the Caledonians, who have been a distinct tribal nation since time immemorial. We traded with Ancient Egypt, and we drove away the Romans, and although we’ve absorbed other peoples over time, and although on occasion we’ve been defeated and overrun by our enemies we have always kept alive our identity and our culture. Nobody is ever going to ‘permeate’ us because our blood is strong.
In the same way there are numerous other peoples around the world who have held fast to their identities and cultures, for many ages and against overwhelming odds, including the Russian people.
Have a great weekend, everyone.
Also, some videos for today.
Nazi symbols found at Mariupol Azov base after Kiev regime army’s surrender (another RT report providing hard proof that Western governments happily leaped into bed together with Banderite Nazis):
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/nazi-symbols-mariupol:b
RT reporter captures exclusive frontline footage in battle for Artemovsk:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/Bahmut-frontline:2
Kiev regime losses in Soledar (18+):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ShKZ8dE6L05u/
Russian troops storming Kiev regime trenches near Kremennaya (18+):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/R55y6emSePZ3/
Russian Lancet drones taking out more enemy equipment:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZKZjmHIjtols/
Russian Grad fires on enemy ammunition depots:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/firewar:d
Russian Uragan fires on enemy position south of Donetsk:
https://rutube.ru/video/1728b0957bafd5fc881e25547c2fdd53/
Russian Msta-SM2 self-propelled howitzers pound enemy position:
https://rutube.ru/video/fc7a74c5a4d11d454a7d975a5f774c16/
Russian Su-25 crews launch air strikes on Kiev regime positions:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/skywar:7
Thank you SO MUCH Nate, I really appreciate you sharing these videos with us!
You’re welcome. Here are some more videos for today.
Life was unbearable — Soledar refugees recall treatment by Kiev regime forces:
https://odysee.com/@RT:fd/soledar-refugees:6
Walking around the streets of Soledar, showing massive Kiev regime losses (18+, near the end of the video it also shows a clip of some pathetic CNN propagandist trying to claim that this was “a fairly organized pullback”):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/A48oxB1vBZAQ/
Another look at what CNN propagandists are calling “a fairly organized pullback” from Soledar (18+ footage showing huge Kiev regime losses):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/D2u4dyTihGcl/
Shot up Kiev regime truck limps out of Soledar:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0jSDCVNga8Di/
Three Kiev regime tanks all stuck in the mud:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7OcBdPHDje0G/
New Russian precision guided munitions destroy an enemy armored vehicle and a support point:
https://rutube.ru/video/998cf0672cca47e689703583daa5f211/
Russian artillery destroys Kiev regime hiding spot:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/knWeSlp8SzFG/
DPR troops storming and clearing out Kiev regime trenches:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ffHoPqKroTCf/
Enjoy:
https://jamesburrillangell.substack.com/p/the-balkanization-of-yugoslavia
I love your website.
I was redpilled in the 1990s (enough to start paying attention to Noam Chomsky) by Scott Taylor of Espris de Corps, Diana Johnstone (Fools Crusade) and a newsletter called Byronica. Ever since then my CBC and BBC loving friends have considered me a bit “off”. We can’t talk about Ukraine or thermonuclear war would be started in Canada.
Thanks for creating a shady oasis of truth and sanity. What a world!
Diana Johnstone wrote such a good book on Yugoslavia, it was banned in Sweeden and some other places.
The West demonised, bombed, occupied and dismembered us Serbs… and that is what they want to do to you Russians as well.
I want to discover the fountain of youth, which is more likely than the US & Ass-wipes dismantling Russia.
Srebrenica was an arranged fall. In 1993 there was a proposal/talks between Bosnian Serb command and the Sarajevo government about swapping Srebrenica for Vogosca, a Serb-held area around Sarajevo. Actually, about a year after Dayton, Vogosca was awarded to the Muslim-Croat “Federation” by a special judgement.
In early 1995 there was a major upswing in weapons going to Srebrenica. Weapons arriving into Tuzla by secret night flights would end up in Srebrenica a week later. They went first to Zepa, south of Srebrenica, which had another military base, and then were smuggled into Srebrenica. Both the Serbs and UN noticed this and the Serbs felt the Muslims were preparing for a major attack, while the UN noted it but didn’t or couldn’t stop it.
However, sometime between the early part of 1995 and April, the U.S. must have decided it wanted to wrap up the war because in April 1995, the entire top command of Srebrenica, including Naser Oric, was helicoptered to Tuzla. There are pictures of Oric, in uniform in Tuzla in late April 1995. None of the commanders ever came back before the fall, and reports are that they were not allowed.
In the meantime, the U.S. must have been thinking how to get the army out, as it backs its proxy armies more than civilians and it also didn’t want any arrested or in Serb custody or trials. So it took from late April to July to figure out what to do.
The rank and file were kept in the dark about how Srebrenica would be abandoned to prevent a mutiny or disobedience. So for them Srebrenica’s fall was “sudden”.
Those are the words of a soldier who was there during the fall.
He says they were ordered by their brigade commanders to leave their positions – and he said they had strong defenses all around Srebrenica – and told to gather in a certain part of Srebrenica (it was in the north).
He said there were around 18,000 men.
He says, after nightfall, they ordered to leave, but the group was so large they had to divide into three groups.
He also says they left single file and that the 1st group left at 11:00 p.m. while his, the 3rd, didn’t leave until around 5 or 6 a.m. So during all those hours men were walking out.
He says there were no problems nor fighting until they crossed into Serbian territory.
All this happened at least 2 nights before Mladic and Serbs arrived in Srebrenica from the south.
So the Muslim army and men left 2 nights before the Serbs drove in (and without resistance since the army had been pulled out) from the south.
And the Serbs only sent a few hundred into Srebrenica the first day, and they right away went to talk to the UN command at Potocari.
At Potocari, the women and children had been gathered there. They had been ordered there by the UN and the Srebrenica authorities around the time the men had been ordered to go to the northern part of Srebrenica.
It was the UN which told Serbs to take the women and children to Tuzla. So the Serbs, despite being under heavy fuel sanctions, sent buses with civilians bus drivers to take the women and children to Tuzla, where they were dropped off at the Tuzla airport.
There aren’t any media videos or pictures of injured Srebrenica civilians, nor are there any hospital reports, unlike for the Krajina refugees who were pouring into the Banja Luka and other hospitals at “alarming rates”. The Serb refugees were injured as the Croats and Muslims threw stones at their cars and in some parts of Croatia, the Serb convoys were strafed.
Most all of those they claim as Srebrenica fall victims actually died BEFORE the fall, in the fighting and attacks on Serb villages from 1992.
Most all of the Muslim dead are found away from their home villages/areas, while the dead Serbs are mostly found in their home villages, showing it was the Muslims who went into the Serb areas, to their homes, to attack and kill them.
“The analysis of the list of the names of those who were killed from one BiH Army formation, demonstrates that over 65% of the soldiers of that unit were killed in Serb villages. On the other hand, Serbian sources testify that over 80% of Serbs lost their lives on their properties, in their houses and villages.”
Bosnian Muslims soldiers were going into the Serbian villages and many were killed by Serbs defending themselves there. Whereas the most of the killed Serbs were on their property or within their own villages. This shows it was the Bosnian Muslims trying to kill off the Serbs in the area.
The peace in Bosnia was clearly sabotaged: Muhamed Filipović, who was in the Bosniak Muslim leadership and close to Alija Izetbegović explains how last minute a reasonable deal with the Serbs was sunk: https://www.in4s.net/video-da-se-ne-zaboravi-kako-se-rat-u-bosni-mogao-izbjeci/ (Google Translate the article and the most relevent part of the interview is subtitled)
And just to share an obscure but touching song about the looming WW3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1zCGI1W2zQ&ab_channel=DavidRovics
@Pamela,
I read that another reason for the EU$A to dismember Yugoslavia first along ethnic lines into Orthodox ChristianSerbia, Roman Christian Croatia and Muslim Albania, then have NATZO follow up by creating a neo-Muslim Kosovo from the mutilated body of Serbia was, that a Muslim Kosovo was the price demanded by Albania for allowing Anglo-Zionazi Capitalists to build a pipeline to the Mediterranean.
Battle of Kosovo was where Serbia stopped the Turkish Empire from taking over Western Europe; it ranks with the battle of Vienna.
Thank you. As I say to Saker “plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose” but now with an additional hihgly toxic enlarger. Give behaviour even today over pipelines, it sounds more than feasible.
It’s good that Russia has identified that zone A institutions are a threat to be removed; I’d extend that to the internet, education and the range of soft power ploys used by zone A to inculcate dependency relations as this needs to be eradicated in the East as well.
As a conveyor belt of Ukie-Polak mangled dummies are chewed up and spat out in Bakhmut, and with recruitment drives becoming more aggressive in nature, I foresee, with the blessing of European Governments, 4 & 5 figure bounties being placed on the heads of able-bodied escapees from 404; and what better way for these Euro-broke broker governments to alleviate their economic burden than by sending out their state gestapo/military police to round up those who had the gumption or foresight to flee Dodge before the shells flew overhead.
If you’re a Ukrainian living in the EU best not be living on State Benefits . . . . . . and move address.
Several years ago I read hundreds of pages of testimony from the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia on the battle for Srebrenica. The testimony of a Serbian officer (sorry I can’t remember his name) stated that 600 Serbian soldiers were killed during the withdrawal of Moslem forces from Srebrenica to Gorazde. Serbian Forces were dug-in and prepared, so it must have been a bloody battle to take their positions. Nowhere in the NATO-West’s Srebrenica story are battlefield losses ever mentioned.
During the reign of Tsar Dušan the Mighty Serbia included all of the Balkans and Greece, so if the Serbs themselves are united I don’t believe that they can be conquered by anyone. Serbia had a low point when they were betrayed by Europe and the United States, but now the tables are all turning because the United States, in a fit of hubris and insanity, decided to attack Russia. As the Serbian expression has it, ‘they’ve f**ked the back of a hedgehog’.
Here is a documentary covering the Balkan wars, the man that created it was with the Duran guys on one of their shows. Worth the time.
Weight of Chains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08
While talking about Ukraine, Putin once stated: “There are police force units that are ready to fight off any kind of military action against Donbas. We consider that it corresponds to the interest of people who live on that territory, because otherwise, a slaughter worse than the one in Srebrenica would happen there.”
And there you have it, Putin acknowledges that which Saker consistently denies: Srebrenica was a war crime, and by far not the only one Serbs have committed during the wars in Balkans.
Yes, Empire architected those wars, and yes, CIA pooled many strings (see “Confession of a CIA Agent: They gave us millions to dismember Yugoslavia” https://www.greanvillepost.com/2015/11/29/108895/), but Serbs were by no means innocent.
Russians in Ukraine are not committing ethnical cleansing like Serbs did in Bosnia.
In Ukraine you see military prisoners exchange, we had almost none as Serbs were not taking prisoners but would treat them as Ukrainians are treating Russians.
In Ukraine you don’t see concentrations camps like what Serb had for non-Serbs.
What Serbs did in Balkans is very much alike to what Ukrainian side was/is doing to Donbas.
Trying to whitewash Serbian war crimes falls in the same category as whitewashing Ukrainian war crimes.
Empire attacked and dismembered Yugoslavia, and Serbs were utilized for this purpose as much as others, with a difference that they were the first ones to embrace radical militant clero-nationalism and chauvinism and formed paramilitary murderous gangs like that of Arkan or Seselj, which consequently was used as an excuse in Croatia and Bosnia to do the very same.
If you’re truly looking for an example of Empire evil meddling, look at Carrington–Cutileiro plan (a.k.a. Lisbon Agreement), which was signed by all in Bosnia on 18 March 1992 before active phase of war commenced, but on 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature. Lisbon Agreement offered so much more then eventual Dayton Agreement which was signed after three years of bloodshed. It’s exact same thing as what happened with Boris Johnson visiting Kiev in March 2022 and telling Zelensky to abandon peace plan and choose war with Russia instead.
So yes, empire caused all of it, but the war crimes were committed by locals, and Srebrenica is a most tragic example. You cant fight one evil while denying other evils, if you do that you get “devide et impera”.
So Mr Saker, ask yourself: in this epic fight between good & evil, would you rather just have thousands of Serbian chetniks on your side, or the millions of other ex-Yugoslavs, because by denying Serbian war crimes you are pushing us away into the arms of Empire where we don’t belong.
I find this to be an interesting point of view. To choose between those Serbs which are willing to fight and do so without needing public exoneration.
Or you and your supposed cohort which can’t handle taking a share of the blame for the Balkan tragedies without taking your ball home?
Why would anyone need or want such fairweather “allies”
Spartans! What is your profession? To borrow the most appropriate phrase…
Sarajevo veteran
There is no peace for man, no truth, no hope for a better tomorrow while such stories are being told by the respected veteran. You are telling me your story about Srebrenica, and I am 20 kilometers from it. I translated and personally escorted at least 100 Muslims, before or after their assault from Srebrenica. There were many of my personal friends. I was not a soldier of Republika Srpska, but during that war I was at least 30 times in the area from Serbia to Srebrenica. I know almost all the details of the event, as far as where the men from Srebrenica gathered to break through the lines of the Republika Srpska army. I know how many weapons were brought, (and in pieces) to a city that was demilitarized and under the protection of the UN, and wants to go to war. Just imagine that irony and respect for some norms and civilization. From that protected zone, citizens protected by the UN killed around 3,000 Serbs, mostly women and children. It is well known, and to me personally, that they threatened the UN soldiers that they would attack them if they did not attack the Serbs. I also know that the UN battalion, the army of the Netherlands, offered all its weapons, including those in the warehouse, to the Muslims in Srebrenica, but the deputy commander Ramiz Bećirović refused to accept it. Along with all the inhumane events, which must be admitted, thousands of Muslims died attacking the Republika Srpska army. In some areas, one RS soldier was attacked by 50 people from Srebrenica. Most of them broke through and reached Tuzla, about 6,000, some went to Goražde, some to Žepa, and some reached Serbia via the Drina. Everything is known and everything is clear, only for some it is much more important to continue talking about genocide, to be hateful and to lie to themselves. Those who mention genocide mean only the number of dead people. They died because someone ordered them to ATTACK the other. Instead of bringing to court the one who sent them to prison, they talk about genocide. The biggest unknown is just, how is it possible, there are 2-3000 people alive today, and they participated and managed to get through the hoop, and they allow someone else to brainwash them so that it didn’t happen? Well, that is the visual and mental murder of those people.
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Sarajevo is now essentially pure Muslim. The Muslims killed or pressured out around 120,000 Sarajevo Serb civilians.
The Bosnian Muslim population increased, percentage-wise, during that war which shows the Muslims ethnically cleansed and killed more Croats and Serbs than happened to them. What would Putin know about Srebrenica except the media propaganda? Neither he nor Russia ever did any serious research about Srebrenica. It was actually a Bulgarian researcher who did a book about it and on the perjuring “star witness” Croat Drazen Erdemovic from Tuzla.
Russia supported that kangaroo, political court so it went along with the crimes against Serbs. Russia also sold arms to the Croats and the Bosnian Muslims through Slovenia. Victor Bout was just one of many involved in weapons smuggling to the Croats and Bosniaks.
The Srebrenica commander even showed gory videos of his men’s attacks on Serbs in 1992 and 1993. These videos showed Serbs’ homes burning, Serbs fleeing for their lives and scene after scene of the bodies of Serbs murdered by the Srebrenica Muslims.
One scene showed the bodies of decapitated Serbian men in a heap. John Pomfret of the U.S. and Canadian Bill Schiller were the western journalists who witnessed Naser Oric’s videos of his killings and he smiled and bragged about it as he narrated it.
Srebrenica Muslims had a scorched-earth policy on the Serb villages in the area and they destroyed scores of Serb villages in the first several months of the war. Yet those same forces literally walked out during the so-called “fall”. It was witnessed by the Dutch soldiers, as they watched the army and men leave from their northern stations.
The Srebrenican men went to Tuzla or ended up in other Bosniak-controlled territory. There were some who went east and ended up in Serbia, but they were all registered by the Red Cross and released within days. Some were sent by the Red Cross to Australia and other countries without notifying their relatives, and this kept them on the “missing” lists extra long (further, even when men were discovered alive or found, their names were often not even removed from the lists). The Red Cross basically collects names but does not work to find them and does not always remove the names from the list if/when they are found. There were actually some “missing” people in that war who were still living in their original homes, but yet still listed as “missing” years, even more than a decade, later.
And the organ ‘harvesting’ attributed to the Kosovars/Albanians? Did the Serbs participate in that as well?
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As a combined reply to comments of Mad Max, Vale, Jojo & “(larry, dfh):
You are approaching all this as if it is a football game, and you are passionately supporting your side. Serbs still didn’t went through catharsis of objectively looking at their own role in Balkan tragedy. Whenever Serb war crimes are mentioned they are hiding behind crimes of others, historic injustice and conspiracy against the Serbian nation, war crimes of others from WW2… everyone else is to blame, and Serbs are ultimate victims. As long as you do just that, you will fall in self-fulfilling prophecy cycle. First you renounced Tito, then you renounced Yugoslavia and opted for Greater Serbia, then you bombed Vukovar and Dubrovnik, made a siege around Sarajevo a whole year before war in Bosnia has started, Milosevic and his gang purged JNA of all who were pro-Yugoslavia and have made it a de facto Serb Army, then you sent Arkan to Bijeljina to start ethnic cleansing campaign etc… While America has indeed orchestrated Srebrenica massacre and have informed and instructed Bosniak side what to do, it is Serb soldiers who were killing those people there and then tried to hide the crime by disposing bodies in mass graves. You can blame it on Naser Oric, or whoever you want, Serbs did kill those men in most brutal way. Observe how Russians are treating Ukrainian soldiers who surrender and compare that to what Serbs did in Srebrenica. Observe how Russians are treating local population when they take over certain territory and compare that to what Serbs have done. Difference is morality which Serbs didn’t had, and that is why Russia is winning and Serbs were (and still are) losing.
You don’t want to come up clean and renounce war criminals, distance yourself from evil committed in your name, that is your choice. I don’t deny what others did to you, and I personally judge and damn all the crimes which were committed by Croats and Bosnians against the Serbs, you should do the same for your crimes.
Now we are at the crossroads, a new war or lasting peace in the Balkans. Serbs are in the NATO cauldron, it is a fact. Only thing which stands in the way of Serbia & RS being destroyed is will of us others to participate or not in that war against the Serbs (and later on Russians). I would like to avoid that scenario because I still believe that we are brotherly people and we can be so much more then friends to each others, but inability of Serbs to express their sorrow and accept responsibility for the things they have committed during Balkan wars is just playing in the hand of NATO. It is everyone’s own choice and responsibility, and you shouldn’t do it just to avoid the danger, you should repent like true Christians, admit your sins and ask for forgiveness. It is your only chance for survival. There is so much weapons transferred to Balkans just in the last year, you are in much bigger danger than what you can comprehend. You think that US Aircraft Carrier is by chance in Adriatic all those last months? You think you can defend yourselves and Russia will send airborne divisions to protect you? Think again. If you remain in your bubble of “innocence” and no guilt whatsoever, then you’ll perish as such. Russia stands on the moral high ground in this war, Serbs are nothing like Russians, much more like Ukrainians, and will end up like Ukraine. Do some soul searching and choose for your partisan heritage instead of your chetnik heritage, or don’t, it is completely up to you.
And as their neighbor where is your asking for forgiveness? The Serbs all say, we were not innocent but neither were they. I don’t see a similar mea culpa from you supposed “victims”.
It must gall you to see them be unbroken despite being in a cauldron as you say. But they don’t have to fight to win. They just have to remain neutral and NATO and the leash holders of you neighborly folks lose their minds.
You’ll never leave your leash, you will never fight bc you and your cohort don’t have sovereignty. So your offer of millions of allies is empty. Like the Devil offering all the world to Jesus in the Desert if he were to but kneel to the Devil.
And if I am wrong and you can fight, then either you choose to fight or you don’t. At best you are a mercenary bc of the cost of your participation. And since you are a mercenary (since you ask a price to do whats right) then your loyalty goes to the highest bidder and thus you are back on your gilded leash.
I had to register just to express my agreement with your take on the predicament of us Serbs. I think it might mean something to you that I myself am a Serb by blood, and a (centralist) Yugoslav by upbringing. I also doubted the existence of our Srebrenica crimes until I saw the video evidence of some extrajudicial executions. The shameful crime of our nation is not that some elements of the west’s overblown Srebrenica narrative indeed happened, but that we didn’t prosecute and purge those criminal elements from within our ranks immediately, but rather sheltered them and made them part of the national mythology. The ukrainian parallell is undeniable, and our right to being the cultural and moral driving force of south-slavic unity has thus clearly been waived. The orthodox revival of Serbia is impossible as long as it nurtures chauvinistic propaganda contrary to historical and moral Truth. This propaganda starts from the romanticized myth of our middle ages history (full of treason, collaboration with opressors, infighting and royal patricide), and ends with a romanticized version of our ethnic “rearrangement” programs like the kingdom’s Zionist-style (re)settling of Kosovo and Mihajlovic’s publicly endorsed Bandera-style chetnik policies of outright cleansing, inspiring some of the 90’s crimes. Of course, islamistst, ustashi and partisans (including Serbian partisans) all had their fair share of terrible transgressions, but morality starts by examining yourself, and Serbian youth that is very understandably desperate for national pride should really start digging through historical archives instead of attanding football matches. They might just find that some of their ancestors were decent people and therefore killed by exactly those “Great Serbs” we nowadays like to worship between a liturgy and a hooligan brawl. I still think there might be a Great Serbian revival and a just and free Serbian-protected and Serbian-led south-slavic world (like the Russki Mir) in the future. But this is not a prophecy nor a birthright, and this role might well fall upon another south-slavic nation, I have no problem with that. Probably upon the one which produces a great leader (at least of Putin’s caliber) first. I don’t see a grassroots/democratic way for redemption: due to the decadent poisoning of the mind, democracy has become a tyranny of the mob instead of a counsel of the wise. We south slavs need to produce a just and strong dictator who is willing to sacrifice himself by governing us (honestly, we are not even worthy), and command us on the virtuous path of truth, beauty and valor. Not a Christian allegory of intangible goodness that somehow always devolves into the lowest common denominator, but a single man of flesh and blood and principle, a father of a family, of a clan and of a nation. Until then, our fate is to remain weak and divided, and in the case of Serbs, eventually culturally, demographically and physically destroyed.
‘There is so much weapons transferred to Balkans just in the last year, you are in much bigger trouble…You think that US Aircraft Carrier is by chance…You think you can defend yourselves and Russia will send airborne divisions to protect you…’
In my opinion, Serbia makes the best small arms in the world, and they also have a very high incidence of firearms ownership amongst the general populace. A US aircraft carrier; how wonderfully quaint and retro, and perfect for impressing uncontacted hunter-gatherers. I believe that it’s now a certainty that Russia would send troops and advanced weapons to aid Serbia against NATO.
Sarajevo veteran
Sir, the two of us are about history in untouchable waters and the subject of a long, probably irreconcilable, story. I did not even hope to move you even a millimeter from the story repeated by the mass of Muslims. I didn’t want to write a word about it for years because of myself and the Muslim people. You stay in your story, it’s pointless for me to convince you, but just so you know, this is written by someone whose every word about Srebrenica is true. Most of the data was personally collected, seen or directly verified. I don’t hate anyone, I came out of that war completely clean. I wrote to you how many Muslims I saved and even today I have hundreds of friends there. Know that all those who just blindly repeat the genocide amnesty those who knowingly and deliberately pushed thousands of people to their deaths. It is a crime of crimes to persuade and order and they go on a charge and certain death. A lot of the world was there without firearms. It was then known that a massacre would occur. The massacre had to happen for sure and according to whom it didn’t matter. Take a look at all these facts, you have as much information as you want on the Internet. A lot of it agrees with what I have personally learned. It would be humane, moral and humane for your people to investigate and clearly explain this terrible crime. Every Serb who did not adhere to the rules of warfare should be held accountable.
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Dear Vale, massacre had to happen so that Serbs and Bosniaks for a long time wouldn’t be at peace with each others and couldn’t live normally together anymore, to benefit of empire (divide & conquer). Unfortunately, dehumanization of the “enemy” proved to be working very well in the Balkans. There are Serbs who feel the pain of the victims and feel morally responsible (not guilty o.a.) for what was done, and there are also many Serbs who still chant “Noz, zica, Srebrenica” and are celebrating Ratko Mladic as their hero. To each their own. By any definition, what has happened in Srebrenica was a genocide, a terrible stigma on Serb people which should never happened. As for me, whoever shed an innocent blood can burn in hell, I don’t care which nationality or religion they are, there is no salvation for the killers. For those like you who saved lives, may the peace of god rest upon you.
Sarajevo veteran, You know nothing but the propaganda and lies. You are ignorant of such people as Tomislav Mercep and his death squads which started the killings in Vukovar. Tudjman sent him there because it had a high Serb population. Croat police were “arresting” and then torturing and murdering Serb civilians from even before the war started there. The bodies of Serbs, who were fully identified were washing up in the rivers in Croatia. These were Serbs from Vukovar and Osijek. The ones in Osijek were killed by Branimir Glavas and his men.
You seem ignorant that Croatia had their forces there and started the killings of civilians then would attack the JNA. The JNA would come out, make short work of the Croats and then the UN and “international community” would order them to stop and go back in their barracks. They obeyed.
But then the Croats would start up the killings and the cycle would repeat. There were 19 ceasefires during the 5.5 month Vukovar war, so it was constant start-stop start-stop start stop.
There are photos of Vukovar Serb civilians axed and shot to death by the Croat forces on their retreat after the “fall of Vukovar”.
This even includes a small boy of about 3 years who was shot point blank in his forhead.
Srebrenica was a military base which had an entire division – the 28th Division there and the UN went to “protect” it when it finally started losing to the smaller number of Serb troops.
The Muslims would continue to come out from the “UN protected area” and attack Serbs then go back behind UN lines.
The Srebrenica Muslims were continuing to receive weapons while the UN was there.
The Muslim army and men WALKED OUT of Srebrenica from its north at least 2 nights before the Serbs drove in from the south.
This is documented in the Dutch UN Srebrenica report. The Dutch watched them leave. The Dutch did not see any killings done by Serbs in Srebrenica during the fall.
They witnessed the killing of a Dutch soldier by a Srebrenica Muslim as they were leaving their posts – and that was days before the Serbs were even there.
Most all the Srebrenica fall victims are actually those who died *before* the “fall”. It is known they count those who died years before the fall from their own military records.
Muslims will not give ANY official autopsy reports nor will they release their full military records. The truth would destroy the propaganda people like you believe and push.
You give no details or evidence for your assertions.
Yep he does nothing but repeat the propaganda.
He has done no research beyond the propaganda which is shown false with actual documentation.
Muslims’ own military records – those that Serbs found/captured – after the “fall” show they count soldiers who died in 1992 and 1993 as “fall” victims.
They refuse to release full records. They refuse to release any authentic autopsy reports. I call the bluff!
You put your finger on one of my perplexities about the current Russian government ways of doing things. I am talking about the toleration of, and co-operation with, enemy organizations such as, the IAEA, the OPCW et al.
The Russian talk about the big building in Dinipro is that SBU deliberately set off a bomb in the bottom as a provocation to blame Russia…it is said they can tell by the way explosion went upwards not a missile falling fro above………
Also sputniknews reporting today SBU and group of 30 mining specialusts are mining a grainstorage unit to blow up and blame Russia for collapsing the grain deal and export agreement…
Srebrenica a town betrayed – Norwegian documentary led by a Bosniak investigative journalist:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FvqHWS_4AuM
There’s something subtle but profoundly obscene about that statue to Clinton. Because we know who he is and what he has done.
Re: Yugoslavia I’d recommend as a primer the work of Greg Ilych. Back in 1982 the U.S. Congress passed a series of sanctions against Yugoslavia. They practiced what analysts ( Charles Lindblaum (sic), others) called a mixed economy. Socialist + free market = bad example.
There is an e-book free of charge that highlights some of these problems in the last hundred years. You can download it on your kindle. It is called: RADHIKA DESAI, Capitalism, Coronavirus and War. A geopolitical economy. The “war” in the title refers to Ukraine. Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson now have a programme every two weeks at “naked capitalist”. They are both geo-economists and historians. Several organisations have pooled to release this book free of charge on kindle of all places, but why not… It is not a difficult read and offers a valuable perspective of the last 100 years. Classical left and not pessimistic in outlook. Meant as a study book for groups but valuable for individuals searching for some oversight.
Will check it out, thanks.
With the latest example of NATO and their Kosovo stooges trying to start a new war against Serbia. I’m reminded of a past time in Kosovo when the Serb leader Prince Lazar was said to have been offered a choice by an angel ” to have an earthly kingdom,or a kingdom in heaven”,he chose the kingdom in heaven and fought for Serbian freedom.I’m told that the EU offers Vucic the choice of betraying Serbia and her friend Russia. Or face the wrath of the EU/NATO. Will today’s Serbian leaders respond as Prince Lazar did,or will they bend the knee to the new Sultans in Brussels and Washington? That is the choice for Serbia today.
There is always a new mandate as the proxy clowns juggle their last disability ball to the bitter end.
But who’s ball is it really?
I’ve always love the “Oscar Peterson Live” CD with the Bach Suite on it. The “allegro” is 2 minutes of warming up the fingers and then off to the races. Joe Pass was on it as well. I don’t know which guitarist I like best between Joe Pass and Herb Ellis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJdDDQP3eI
“For these reasons I think that Russia should kick out any and all western (Zone A) “observers” and not collaborate with any AngloZionist controlled agencies such as the IAEA, the OPCW, any and all EU bodies/organizations, any western “aid” organizations, etc. etc. etc.”
As a follower of the UNSMIS mission, I became an admirer of Lt. Gen. Robert Mood. But it failed, and the reason Mood finally gave was that it would be a destructive influence on the international credibility of the UN.
“Ending UNSMIS was, ultimately, the right thing to do. In Rwanda in 1994 and Srebrenica in 1995, the UN became part of the problem and stood by as a silent witness to atrocity. This time, the UN strengthened its integrity by avoiding such a development. A mandate that was impossible to implement on the ground, at least as long as the parties saw their interests best served by fighting it out rather than implementing Annan’s political solution, was not extended.”
My Experiences as Head of the UN Mission in Syria
https://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/54238
Taking the right way to go requires leadership, and that may include retreat, or even unconditional surrender, or lateral movement, mutually agreed or not, as some propose as absolutely necessary for the real losers of these illicit military engagements.
Robert Mood: Leadership – The Battle Within
https://youtu.be/LuiuHbEsJbg
Putin and Lavrov have never denied the principles and morality behind the UN Charter but western leaders, military, media and population deny them routinely, for self aggrandizement.
It’s good to accept that there are well motivated well intentioned people on every side, Anglo, Saxon, Russian and American. I have a long list of alternative U.S. origin analysts that I cannot damn with faint praise, many of them on this site, but ultimately the principles of the UN Charter remain true, and any team may have disagreements, but that could be a good thing, and a very formidable team, as per Mood.
I will admit that many organizations like the OPCW may seem hopelessly corrupt, for now, and penetrated by western intelligence, but alternative formulations have to replace the corruption, starting with acknowledging the corruption. This is a conflict between NATO and Russia/China. We so deny this fundamental fact, that it is truly comic. As such, it requires constituencies from both, with some common scientific basis for arriving at the facts, or it will be settled on the battlefield.