There are many theories out there about what exactly caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. Some say that it is Ronald Reagan with his Star Wars program. Others say that this is the war in Afghanistan or the Polish union Solidarnosc. Other popular theories include the failure of the Soviet economy, the drop in oil prices, the inability to produce consumer goods, the yearning of many Soviets for western-style freedoms and incomes, national/ethnic problems, a hypertrophic military-industrial complex, a massive and corrupt bureaucracy, the corruption of the CPSU and its nomenklatura, the personal treason of Mikhail Gorbachev and many other theories. While all of these factors did contribute to weaken the Soviet system, I do not believe that they brought it down, not even combined together. What really brought down the Soviet Union was something entirely different: an unbearable cognitive dissonance or, to put it more simply, an all-prevailing sense of total hypocrisy.
But before I make my case about the role of hypocrisy, let me first clarify why I don’t believe that any other of the theories I listed above make sense: simply because the USSR survived much, much, harder times. Frankly, the entire period from 1917 through 1946 was much worse than anything which happened during Brezhnev’s “stagnation” or after. And yet, not only did the Soviet Union survive, it almost single-handedly defeated the biggest military machine Europe ever created – Hitler’s Wehrmacht – it also deterred the Anglosphere from its plans to attack it at the end of the war. Then it more or less won the “space race” (with the very notable exception of the race to the moon which the USSR lost on 24th of October 1960), built what was arguably the most powerful conventional military force on the planet while enjoying an internal economic boom. By any measurement, the USSR was a formidable power during a very long period.
But then something went very, very wrong.
Personally, I am inclined to blame Nikita Khrushchev who, in my opinion, was by far the worst leader the Soviet Union ever had.
Though this is controversial, but I believe that Khrushchev and a clique of supporters murdered Stalin by poisoning him, and then engaged in a massive propaganda campaign to justify their action and legitimize their rule. It all began with Khrushchev’s (in)famous “secret speech” at the 20th CPSU Congress and it continued throughout most of Khrushchev’s rule. Khrushchev, who personally hated Stalin, used every truth and untruth possible to literally demonize Stalin. Worse, Khrushchev objectively joined forces with the many Trotskists worldwide who had been spreading the “Stalinism” myth for decades.
Let me immediately clarify that I am not at all an admirer of Stalin whom I consider to be a bloody tyrant and a absolutely ruthless, if personally charming, dictator. But I will say that Stalin was most definitely no worse then Lenin, Trotsky or Khrushchev and that as a statesman his was far more skilled then any other Soviet leader. As for Khrushchev himself, he was the protégé of Lazar Kaganovich, one of the worst scumbags in Soviet history, he was also an eager participant in many bloody repressions, and generally a comprehensively immoral, unprincipled and outright evil person.
Anyway, with his anti-Stalin campaign Khrushchev basically told the Soviet people that what used to be white yesterday is henceforth to be considered black and that what was black is now white. On a deeper level, that also showed that the Soviet Union was ruled by complete hypocrites who had no personal beliefs and who stood for nothing except for their own power.
The poison of disillusionment and cynicism injected by Khrushchev and his clique acted slowly, but surely, and by the time Leonid Brezhnev came to power (1964) it had already discreetly permeated all of Soviet society. By the 1980 it was omnipresent at all the levels of society, from the lowest and poorest to the top party officials. I don’t want to go into all the details, but I will say that the fact that almost nobody stood up to defend the Soviet system in 1991 and in 1993 is a direct result of that poison’s erosion of the Soviet society. By the 1990s everybody knew that even if the ideals of Communism were good (which some still did believe while some did not), the modern Soviet society was built on a gigantic lie which nobody was willing to fight for, nevermind die for it.
That rot of disillusionment and cynicism is also what defined the 1990s and the “democratic nightmare” of the Eltsin years. People now say that this was the time when “every young Russian boy wanted to become a Mafia Don and every Russian girl a prostitute” – not quite literally true, of course, but generally true nonetheless. It is only with the coming to power of Putin that this poison began to weaken and that the Russian society began to re-discover true ideals and a belief in values worth standing up for.
How does that all apply to the AngloZionist Empire and the Ukraine?
It is quite obvious, really. I tend to agree with Alexander Mercouris, Mark Sleboda and Mark Hackard when they say that the USA, ruled by incompetent and poorly educated politicians (rather than by professional diplomats or real statemen) probably expected Russia to roll-over and accept a Banderastani regime in power in the Ukraine. And when Russia refused to accept that and pushed back, the AngloZionists made their initial miscalculation even worse by dramatically increasing their rhetoric and by insisting that black was white and white was black.
For the AngloZionist a neo-Nazi armed insurgency which seizes power in contradiction with an agreement it had signed less than 24 hours before is a “legitimate representative of the Ukrainian people”. The Baderists are philosemites and democrats, while the people in the eastern Ukraine are either Jew-hating extremists or Russian agents. When the folks in the western Ukraine engage in a campaign of terror, murder and looting, that is an expression of democracy, when the people in the east seize SBU buildings it is terrorism. When Yanukovich was faced by protesters the US demanded that he not use any force at all, not even cops with sidearms, when the junta leader Iatseniuk faces protesters, he is acting with praiseworthy restraint when he sends in tanks, artillery pieces and combat aircraft. The referendum in Crimea is illegitimate because it was allegedly conducted at the point of a gun, while the proposed upcoming Presidential election will be legitimate even though they will be organized and conducted by bone fide neo-Nazis and even though two candidates get assaulted and cannot campaign. I could continue to multiply the example here ad nauseam, but you get the point: what the AngloZionists are declaring urbi et orbi is basically that black is white, the earth is flat, 2+2=3, up is down, etc. They are doing exactly the same than what Khrushchev did in the USSR: they are showing their own people that they believe in nothing and stand for nothing except their own power.
Not that the American people need much convincing, I would add.
In my admittedly subjective opinion the level of disgust of most American people with the Federal government is already sky high. Sure, most people feel impotent and believe that there is nothing they can do about it. When they vote for peace, they get more war. When they vote for less taxes, they get more. When they vote for more civil rights, they get less. There is an entire generation of Americans out there which is as disillusioned and as disgusted with their own rulers as the Soviets were with their rulers in the 1970s and 1980s.
Interestingly, there is definitely a strong anti-regime movement of American patriots out there. These are folks who have the wisdom to differentiate between, on one hand, their country, their people, the ideals upon which the US society was originally built, and, on the other hand, regime in DC and the 1% of the population whose interests this regime works for. Amazing, no? The Soviet Union had its formal nomenklatura while the USA has it own, informal, one. About 1% of the population in each case.
You want more uncanny parallels? Sure! How about
1) A bloated military budget resulting in an ineffective military
2) A huge and ineffective intelligence community
3) A crumbling public infrastructure
4) A world record in the per-capita ratio of incarcerated people (US GULag)
5) A propaganda machine which nobody trusts any more
6) An internal dissident movement which the regime tries to keep silent
7) A systematic use of violence against the citizens
8) An increase in tensions between Federal and local authorities
9) An industry whose main exports are weapons and energy
10) A population fearful of being spied on by the internal security services
11) A systematic assimilation of dissent with espionage and terrorism
12) A all-prevailing paranoia about internal and external enemies
13) A financially catastrophic over-reach of the empire across the planet
14) An awareness that the entire planet hates you
15) A subservient press-corps of presstitutes who never dare to ask the real questions
16) A sky-high rate of substance abuse
17) A young generation which believes in nothing at all
18) An educational system in free-fall (the Soviet one was much better, btw)
19) A disgust with politics by the general public
20) A massive and prevailing amount corruption on all levels of power
These are just a few examples which apply as much to the USSR of the 1980 as it does to the 2014 USA. There are also plenty of differences, of course, no need to list them here as they are quite obvious.
My main point is not that the USSR and USA are the exact same, but only that the similarities between the two are becoming uncanny and numerous.
In conclusion and to put things simply: what the AngloZionist are openly and publicly defending in the Ukraine is the polar opposite of what they are supposed to stand for. That is an extremely dangerous thing to do for any regime and the AngloZionist Empire is no exception to that rule. Empire often crumble when their own people become disillusioned and disgusted with massive discrepancy between what the ruling elites say and what they do and as a result, it is not so much that the Empire is faced with formidable enemies as it is the fact that nobody is willing to stand up – nevermind die – in defense of it. Just look at the following sentence:
(in the Ukraine) “Barack Obama and the Democratic Party stand for racism and Fascism”
Amazing, no? But it is true, even though this short sentence has enough tensions inside it to explode the brain of many Americans, especially Democrats. I put the “in the Ukraine” in brackets to provide the context but, of course, the context does not matter one bit. You cannot be for liberal policies at home and for Fascism abroad. Nor can you be an anti-racist who supports racism, it don’t matter one bit were that racism is located. Values truly held are applicable to all and everywhere. You cannot oppose torture in country ‘x’ but favor it in country ‘y’. That is plain ridiculous. So let me restate the sentence above this time without the context in brackets:
Blows your mind, doesn’t it?
And, of course, the very same can be said of McCain and his party:
Still painful, no?
How about this one:
Or, even better:
Or this one:
Pretty amazing, no?
Now try combining any of the above with this one:
Ouch! That one would really hurt a lot of American and Europeans.
Of course, this is not how the events in the Ukraine, or any other event, is presented in the official public media and the zombified public discourse. But neither was that the case in the USSR. Still, not all people are stupidified zombies – though some, of course, are – and they do their own, quiet, little thinking in their own heads. Sometimes they toss ideas around with their friends. In the Soviet Union the “Petri dish” for politically incorrect discussion was usually the kitchen. In the USA it might be near the barbecue.
Of course, we are not going to see mass demonstrations in the streets of Washington DC, most people are going to keep this kind of “crime thoughts” private or for a small circle of trusted friends, but let me remind you all that since we are making comparisons between the USSR and the USA, there was no “occupy the Kremlin” movement in the USSR while the Occupy Wall Street movement in the USA was very large and widely spread across this huge country. Nor has there ever been a Soviet equivalent of the huge 1990 anti-WTO protests in Seattle. So the American public is nowhere nearly as passive as some think.
The Ukraine is far away from the USA, and only 1/6th of Americans can place it on a map. But the consequences of the very high visibility involvement of the US regime and the AngloZionist Empire will be dramatic, if delayed in time. Already nobody in his/her right might would give Obama his Nobel Peace Prize again. So even though the formidable western propaganda machine is way more capable and sophisticated than anything Goebbels or Suslov could have dreamed about, it cannot hide reality forever.
This is why the Empire is so desperate for some kind of victory in the Ukraine. If it cannot be respected any more, it needs to be at least feared. But if the Ukraine explodes and Russia gets Crimea and the East (which appears increasingly likely) then the AngloZionist won’t even be feared anymore. Once that happens, the life expectancy of the Empire will become very, very short.
So yes, knowing the truth does make one free, and the truth is the most powerful empire-buster ever invented. It brought down the USSR and it will bring down the AngloZionists too. It is just a matter of time now.
The Saker
The Soviet Union was part of the Hegelian Dialectic. Just like Al-Kaida, it was run by Zionist Khazar Bankers in New York City, which funded it until they pulled the plug.
That’s it. I am tired of hearing you refer to America as an ‘AngloZionist’ empire and me and my countrymen as AngloZionists”.
My roots are in Scotland. I don’t know any ‘Zionists” and I don’t want to be called one.
Just because the UK is part of the AngloZionist empire doesn’t mean you should be offended by the truth. Likewise, being German during WWII did not necessarily make one a Nazi, just ask the members of the White Rose Society:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/rose.html
Being Jewish also doesn’t make one a Zionist NAZI like those who are running the Gaza concentration camp which is a lot worse than being a NAZI POW during WWII.
Just for fun here is a US made coin that ironically represents the US government today: http://www.scottedelman.com/2010/11/28/1932-stop-crying-start-buying/
The company shown on this coin made parts for the Ford cars and Ford was the major promoter of the “protocols of Zion”. I find such myths and symbols to be dangerous tools to control the masses. Try to remain divergent (pun intended).
Just call yourself a highlander if it helps you disassociate from the UK.
Kind regards for a citizen of the Royal Kingdom of Hawaii.
You need to educate yourself as to who runs your country camouflaged as “democracy” . To save your time the answer is – Zionist banksters of the City of London ( which is a mini-state within a state akin to Vatican the AngoZionists have created to run their tentacles over the world out of). That’s what the term AngoZionist refers to rather than to average people like you who are being shafted by the AngoZionists day in and day out without even realizing it thanx to the over 90% control of the mainstream media brainwashing and propaganda machine disguised as “free media”.
There are none so blind…
AngloZionists are comfortable doing the bidding of the Zionist Criminals for profit… and there is lots of that to go round from the masters of the universe for those willing to sell their soul.
Let’s not forget the key leaders of the October Revolution in Russia, like Trostky (Bernstein), Lazar Kaganovich and many others were all khazar zionists.
Trotsky was financed by the the Zionist khazar bankers from New York and while living in luxury in NYC, he published the Communist Newspaper only in the YIDDISH Language:)
See the documentary: In the Shadow of Hermes – Juri Lina….
Jüri Lina was born in 1949 in occupied Estonia. He was banned from journalistic work in 1975 and then worked as a night watchman until he was forced to emigrate in 1979 after repeated conflicts with the political police, KGB. In 1985, according to documents recently made available, political charges were levelled against Jüri Lina, in his absence, in occupied Estonia. He was accused of high treason in connection with the publication of two books – “Sovjet hotar Sverige” (“The USSR Threatens Sweden”) and “Öised päevad” (“Nightly Days”). The KGB regarded him as one of the most anti-communistic writers in Sweden
Thanks and let hope that the empire goes out with a whimper instead of taking down as much of the world they can. Thanks for the Russian history lesson for the day.
…and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free… No greater words have been written. The beauty is that truth is always within. That said — the turmoil and churning which results from “sleepers awakening” is having a HUGE impact on mankind. This conscious awakening is tangible and substantive. Whether it redeems Americans from years of ignoring the evil perpetrated by government — one cannot predict. But “waking-up” is the first step. The next one is to STOP “sinning” — i.e. stop the madness of evil behavior and policies that have gotten us to this sorry place.
As usual — your insights and perspectives vis-à-vis Ukraine are spot-on. I don’t say this to be obsequious in personal compliments. It’s an expression of gratitude that you provide a forum to read and digest information which PROMOTES intellect and thought — not filling empty vessels with lies and deceit. THANK YOU for respecting your readers intellect. In this way we are the oil.
Kindest regards,
AGS
Russian military high tech surpasses the Americans’. Have a look at this show of superiority:
http://indian.ruvr.ru/2014_04_21/Russian-Su-24-scores-off-against-the-American-USS-Donald-Cook-5786/
The Americans were left wetting their pants.
the old soviet union was forced by the west to waste resources. russia currently is also forced to waste resources.
the zionized u.s. chooses of its own free will to destroy itself and the world.
That’s extremely interesting, and on its own level it’s all absolutely true, but it is a principle of Marxism not to rest content with explanations that turn merely on individuals, as it is also an axiom not to rest content with those that turn on subjective feelings, even mass ones.
Deciding why the USSR failed is no easy task. I myself would go all the way back to 1916. You doubtless know that there was a short but vivid polemic between Lenin and Rosa Luxemburg, who maintained the classical Marxist position that the revolution must, repeat must, occur first in the most advanced countries. And I think this is true. Rosa insisted that it must occur first in Germany, and then it would spread right across eastern Europe and through Russia, almost automatically, whereas the reverse, a revolution in Russia first, would abort the larger process because it would be isolated and quarantined off by the major powers, if not destroyed outright, as it nearly was.
I absolutely believe Rosa was correct. This dispute was concealed in a way that already suggests bureaucratic fossilisation of ‘dogma’, by a swinging Leninist counter-attack on Rosa’s book, “The Accumulation of Capital”, and indeed few have ever emerged from the vast and impenetrable jungle of marxian economics without serious injury (except me, because I have foresworn those awful mathematical examples altogether). So the real issue conveniently disappeared and Rosa was dismissed from theoretical eminence without its even having to be mentioned.
Doesn’t that sound like the typical Soviet modus operandi to you too? It’s dispiriting to think that this ‘bureaucratic degeneration’ was there from the very start, but at least it explains the problem.
Saker,
I call that country Fahrenheit Land for a good reason. Fahrenheit symbolizes all that is irrational about that country. I remember when the Left in the early ’70s started crying that with metrication that would lose their beloved Fahrenheit!
Re your post, I think you are onto something. When I was travelling to the Soviet Union in the early ’70s, going camping and meeting the Russian people, There was already a cynicism in the air. Nobody believed in the system at that point but pre-Internet it was easy to fool people anyway. We met students in Oryol (or is it Orel in English?) who were collecting money to send to East Germany. They wouldn’t believe us when we told them that East Germany was the most prosperous Communist country in the world!
Albertde
It is so refreshing to read something thoughtful and interesting here. Please continue the good work – your analyses are very helpful.
SAKER, not sure if you are aware of this blogger/specific post, but it includes some very detailed direct quotes from a Putin speech/TV presentation or interview from last Thursday (n.b: I have not verified the accuracy of the direct quotes).
Would appreciate your thoughts/analysis on the thesis of the post, especially on Putin’s comments (e.g. ““As for me, you know that the decisions we take in a critical situation depend on our experience and values. You know that I worked for the Soviet Union’s KGB, or, more precisely, foreign intelligence, where we were trained in a specific manner that boils down to absolute loyalty to people and the country.”)
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=10595
Hi Saker,
I have been reading your blog for the Ukraine crisis for awhile. I like your input and analysis in this propaganda war. But I have to say I don’t quite agree with you on this piece.
I think what will bring down the US empire is the economics, and the elite ruling class’s inability to recognize and deal with the problem. The US is almost bankrupted now. I expect the situation is only getting worse in future. Baby boomer generation has entered the retiring age, they will draw social security and medicare benefit which this country don’t have money to cover it. Another key factor that nobody can help is that the White population will be less than 50% soon(white kids in elementary school age are already less than 50%). This will bring fundamental culture and political change in the US. The lower performance of black and Latino students in school predict trouble for this country.
I’m originally from China. I think our history of communist ruling has some sort of similarities. Many people in China now demonize Mao’s era too. But looking back now, I think it is not that black and white. The tragedies happened at the time had more to do with the backwardness of the country and ignorant of the people rather the Mao or his policy. We shouldn’t use today’s standard to measure people or leader of that time.
The most frightening thing is that they seem not to understand what they have set up.Like if they were trapped in their own self-realizing prophecy.
The ones who can bring down a US empire are only US citizens. No outside force can do any more than inspire, the change has to come from within.
Sorry, but I’m not convinced the US citizens will be up to that task anytime soon.
First of all a great majority is still completely blinkered. What seems obvious to you Saker in the Ukraine is not on their radar. Putin=Evil because the television said so.
Second the Empire will, as it’s been doing, create external enemies to keep the home base in check. Get in line or you’re a traitor! Most people will get in line willingly and the rest through fear.
Third Empire would play the internal citizens against themselves on ethno- religios lines if it came to that. The winners would be those that tow to the elite and who are then in need for defence by that elite from those they’ve pissed off. Divide and conquer, just as the Brits did. The US is vvery multi-polar so a shrewd empire could easily pick and choose alliances there to its benefit.
No, I don’t buy your analogy with the Soviet Union’s collapse. And if it is to be, I believe a US empire collapse is several decades ahead, not years.
Quite a perceptive commentary and I agree that the dissonance between the stated ideals of empire and the reality of life in empire has the potential to erode men’s commitment and patriotism. But this has been an ongoing process that didn’t begin in Ukraine. Really the civil rights movement, particularly after WWII, struck the first blow against the myth of American exceptionalism. Part of the reason for “The Great Society” was the discombobulating images showing that the “leader of the free world” was peopled with racist, ignorant, murderous thugs. The national elite reeled from the international ridicule and condemnation and was forced to respond. The assassination of JFK, MLK and RFK all reinforced that something was terribly wrong in Camelot. Vietnam and Iran Contra again forced the US public to confront the hypocrisy of its system and all of this is a part of the historical memory of the US. And don’t overlook the isolated events that reinforced this conclusion police brutality, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Fred Hampton. All of these incidents, and others, helped to reinforce, albeit to different constituencies, that the US was a police state and not the shining city on a hill.
The level of public commitment to official Washington is very shallow. If you doubt that take a look for a moment at the approval levels enjoyed by Congress and Obama. They are distrusted, and in some cases despised. Need more proof? Think of this, the US hasn’t “won” a hot war since WWII! Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan none of them. They have lived on their “victory” of the Cold War, and even there they are busy snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The public is exhausted, medicated, cynical and armed. There is virtually no “buy in” to any of the official myths. Even the story of 9-11 is being openly challenged in some quarters. Whether you believe the official story or not the fact that the government’s official explanation is not uniformly accepted is a remarkable commentary on how the government, and the people who run it, is perceived.
Gil Scott Heron famously said “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised”. He was right. It’s occurring right now in the hearts of good and decent people searching for purpose and meaning to their lives and unwilling to give their obedience to an unworthy hypocritical system. We won’t be able to tell when this reaches critical mass, but it could be at any moment and would only come to the fore when people are called on to defend the system and respond with a collective yawn. Kinda like the extermination exercise in anti-terrorism Kiev just order to virtually no effect. That’s the revolution in Ukraine; the US version is not far off.
I don’t see it, only because there is no such thing as the “AngloZionist” empire. What I know is there hasn’t been a World War for going on 70 years now and during that time America has risen to prominence. Just as the Crimeans are now questioning what they wished for (at least the few who voted for annexation), anyone hoping America collapses may get something entirely different than what they expected. Any intelligent person knows what happens when swift power vacuums are created. Tyrants of all stripes, often much more brutal and sadistic than the previous order, move in to fill the void and those who worked so hard to destabilize the old order are either pushed away or run over.
Under Russia, Life in Crimea Grows Chaotic
When Putin (presumably) leaked the Nuland call, it was the first time I saw real action outside the UN-NWO paradigm. Even Putin’s push-back on Syria was through conventional methods. The fact that Putin pulled back the curtain on the tactics of the Deep State told me he no longer expected to be in a position to benefit from them. He was either planning to dominate the NWO from within but with the chutzpah to ignore the ground rules, or he was ready to walk away from the existing order altogether.
An old quote by Paul Wolfowitz I read recently articulated exactly what the US did to bring this on itself. Obama and his gang arrogantly defied Wolfowitz’s roadmap to perpetual world domination and started the dominoes falling. Here’s Wolfowitz’s advice Obama should have heeded:
“The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.” (http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/15/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/#.U1FMfmeQEu4.twitter)
Now Ukraine facists restart “antiterror” just when US vice president have been there to talk to them! Amazing isnt it?!
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
I also had the thought that the Soviet Union was a foreign paradigm to the Russians. Have you ever seen the documentary evidence that agents of John D Rockefeller financed the Bolshevik revolution to prevent Czarist Russia from challenging Rockefeller’s worldwide hegemony over oil? (if that was his goal, it certainly worked)
You yourself inspired an additional proof of my idea that Soviet was foreign to Russia, and it’s this (please correct me if I’m wrong, it’s just a feeling I have)…
the Soviets banned the Russian Orthodox Church yet it remains a pillar of strength and the best representation of what it means to be really Russian, yet it was the very anti-thesis of Soviet by the Soviets’ own definition.
What do you think? Perhaps Russia merely freed itself from an infection.
RULE BY REFERENDUM.
The solution.
Extraction from very famous Russian film “Brat 2″/Brother 2. Pay attention to dialogue between Danila Bodrov, film’s main hero, and an American banker. Where’s force? In money? No, force is in truth….
http://youtu.be/X4Fny-udrNI
Unfortunately in Russian only.
I lived in the USSR. My parents well lived in the USSR, money was, but there was nothing to buy. I remember it… If it is necessary, I will endure it 100 more times, but I won’t give to the ancestors a reason is ashamed me!
I and as all Russians in Siberia for the world! BUT! if it is necessary, we will go for war! ! !
Poland shouts about won most – she the first will receive!
1 . it isn’t necessary to speak about war if you never participated in it!
2 . Russia honors ancestors fallen in the war and it to you never to understand.
3 . When you will grow to the real fighters (in spiritual sense as Japanese, you will understand), then you will understand losses… while you only look at Ukraine… The Middle East doesn’t disturb you. Yes?
Mr. Holefield,
Please don’t refer to the NY Times for any information about these affairs; that is like referring to Pravda in the old USSR days. Here in New York, we refer to it as the Pravda on the Hudson! They are the mouthpiece of the rulers here in the US.
I agree with the basic tenor of this post. The official US is doing nothing for the bottom 80 percent of the income distribution and next to nothing for the next 10 to 15 percent. They seem to think the subjects wll root for the home team, except that the subjects are beginning to understand that it’s not their team anymore, and that they are not on it. It’s going to be like what they said in the ols Soviet Union, ‘They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work.’
As to the fall of the Ussr, it’s my opinion after reading my friend Carol Leonard’s book on the end of Soviet agriculture, that it was the farm failure that brought the system down and gave it the coup de grace. That failure goes back to collectivization, but the attempts at reform in the 60s and 70s made things worse, especially after the revolt in Novocherkassk in 1962, after which the government gave up any pretense of setting food prices at the cost of production, which meant heavy subsidies paid with deb. According to Gaidar, in late 1989 there was about a 3 week supply of food for Petersburg and a month’s suply for Moscow, and the regime had no credit. That’s what brought them down. They were buying food with debt secured by oil exports.
What do you think? Perhaps Russia merely freed itself from an infection.
It’s a pretty weak nation and people who would murder and repress each other to such an extent at the behest of a few bankers. By virtue of what you believe, the Russian people are gullible and easily swindled and duped. So, we’re to believe things have suddenly changed and they’re not being duped again?
But let’s assume you’re correct, which you’re not of course, then tell us Monica, would you be open to Putin and Russia freeing you and yours from your infection? Wouldn’t it be great for packs of wild dogs to harass pedestrians in the urban centers of America like they do in Russia because no one can be bothered to engage in anima control? Wouldn’t it be great if all businesses in America had to pay not only federal, state and local taxes but also a tax to the mafia that’s protected by the state like in Russia? Wouldn’t it be great to murder and/or disappear anyone who disagreed with you like happens to journalists in Russia? And finally, wouldn’t it be great to outlaw homosexuality and beat up and murder gays until they lock themselves in the closet like they do in Russia? Freedom’s great in Russia, isn’t it? How long until Putin annexes America, Monica? Will you throw roses at the parade for him when he arrives after his victory?
Saker, I mostly agree with your analysis re: the USA but don’t underestimate the American capacity for self-delusion. The mythos of the “shining city on the hill” is very strong.
An example that blew my mind: a couple of years ago I heard an interview with a retired US army surgeon. He may have been the head of the medical corps, I’m not sure. He was a witty, urbane, well-educated man with lots of good stories to tell. He had served as a medical officer in many wars starting with Korea.
At one point, the interviewer asked how he reconciled his medical ethics with serving the military, which is in the last analysis, about killing people.
His answer: “that would be a problem in any other military but the USA has never in its history fought a war that wasn’t purely defensive.”
Yeah, I know.
Stalin – last secret of red imperator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyz6AcuIwWE
this article is pretty good, thank you for inspiring my thoughts. Pavel, czech rep.
@ Cold N. Holefield “Wouldn’t it be great for packs of wild dogs to harass pedestrians in the urban centers of America like they do in Russia because no one can be bothered to engage in anima control?”
In America’s biggest bankrupt city (Detroit) — currently more than $18 billion in debt and home to 70,000-plus vacant structures — there is another problem: Tens of thousands of stray dogs roam the streets.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/us/michigan-detroit-stray-dogs/
Interesting, but a bit polarised in that you leave out one player, the EU – who has been a major instigator in this Ukrainian mess.
Therefore I think a bit of attention needs to be paid to the fact that on May 25th there are Europe-wide elections to the mainly powerless EU Parliament.
It looks as if the various parties in various European countries who are highly critical of the Eu will gain a large number of seats.
Why is that important?
Because one ‘power’ the EU Parliament has is they can agree to the newly proposed EU ‘representatives’ – Madame Ashton will go, for example, and won’t stand again. (Well, she’s earned enough money and has a huge EU pension to look forward to …).
The quirk here is that th EU Parliament cannot reject one candidate, they must reject the whole list of candidates – leading to new negotiations.
The candidate for Ms Ashton’s job as ‘foreign representative’ is the current Polish FM, Mr Sikorski … yes, him, one of the signatories of that ‘pact’ which led to the outsing of PM Yanukovich.
Now do you see why the these EU elections are hugely important? An ad-hoc coalition of all EUrosceptic parties could be able to scupper Mr Sikorski’s anointment.
This also means that the Kiev regime will be hanging in the air because Brussels won’t be fully functional before autumn.
You can draw your own conclusions as to what that will mean for the country …
Sometimes when I read what people say is happening in Russia I wonder if we’re living on the same planet
I’ll add this one:
“Democrats and Republican stand for Al-Queda”
Though the Americans in general couldn’t buy it when their rulers wanted to bomb Syria to protect insurgents.
Is The US Military Preparing For The Collapse Of The Dollar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGeQ-ggdDKo
interesting article, will need to let it sit awhile then read again.
I would say to Mr Burnett, what else would one call the putrid american empire? the country is rife with zionists, although many who endorse the policies are unfamiliar with the word. and whether one is from scotland or elsewhere in europe, if one is not indigenous or ones ancestors did not pass thru the Middle Passage, then one is a colonizer and subject of the empire. that’s only bad in a subjective sense from an indigenous perspective, in an objective sense it’s only an observation.
Re:
Under Russia, Life in Crimea Grows Chaotic NY Times
This article is typical of the agitation propaganda emitted by the bankster establishment.
Nearly all of the dislocations experienced by the Crimeans is similar to what the Ukrainians are experiencing. What the NYT conveniently neglected is that the Ukrainians, instead of receiving pay, pension and public security improvements like Crimeans, will be IMF’ed, with huge gas price hikes, sales tax increases, 50% cuts in pensions, wage freezes, currency controls, domination by oligarchs ad nauseum. Moreover, they will be dominated by a fascist led coup government that sends the military to stifle dissent. Take you pick.
Re: Cold N. Holefield
Outlawing Homosexuality in Russia,
This is another western lie. Homosexuality between consenting adults (16) is legal. Besides, if the US really cared, why do they tolerate relations with Saudi Arabia where gays are stoned to death?
Hypocrisy anyone, or an inability to tell the difference between white and black due to common core education and the promotion of moral relativism (aka cultural marxism)
The US loves to promote homosexuality since it is not a threat to the state. Try exercising your rights to peaceful public assembly in the US and watch how the uniformed armed thugs called police are ready to break your bones. If the eastern Ukraine was located in Florida, the American government would not hesitate to murder them. Assassination by police in the US is so common now that it rarely makes the headlines.
Hey you anonomice, get a nick, stop the confusion!
Everyone’s got a bad word for Stalin. The ones who fib about everything else. Assad, Putin, Chavez, undemocratic, brutal tyrant, yaddida yaddida…
I’m with “originally from China.” Not a good idea to judge the past from our own pleasant perches. Stalin fought the Whites; he knew how easy it was to sweep in from the west. He knew what was on Hitler’s mind. It is a slander to conflate Fascism with Communism; Stalingrad proved it!
If the Banksters helped fund Trotsky it was probably because they hoped to usurp the revolution. Russia was the greatest prize! Huge forests, untapped mines, mile after mile of pasture!
@ Cold N. Holefield wrote “Wouldn’t it be great to murder and/or disappear anyone who disagreed with you like happens to journalists in Russia?”
David Bird, Wall Street Journal Reporter, goes missing after his statements contradicted the thesis that the U.S. is on the path to economic recovery.
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/01/david-bird-wall-street-journal-reporter-goes-missing-after-reporting-for-three-months-on-oil-glut-in-u-s/
This is probably a most interesting piece of information about a building project in the Ukraine to convert a school building into something like a guantanamo in the crimea… screenshot of the contract modalities from the US Navy included
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26222/3105969/
I’m not sure I agree, Saker. Certainly your observations are spot-on, but whenever I try to look ahead, I just… don’t know. Part of my hesitation has to do with the deeper “structure” (?) of things here, i.e., while our elected officials are in one of two supposedly different camps, they’re by and large owned by the same interests — Wall Street, Big Oil, Big Pharma, the MIC, etc.; they just buy the Dems cheaper. And at the same time, We The People have *been* divided-and-conquered, by both sides deliberately ginning up our pre-existing racial, religious and/or regional attitudes and beliefs. But my two biggest hesitancies come from the underlying attitudes most Americans do seem to share, first, that we’re somehow set apart from everyone else bc of our wonderful system of governance and second, that all we need to do to fix things is return to whatever that person’s “team” finds responsible for whatever problems bother them. Also, we’re just so incredibly ignorant even about our own system: I just read today of some clown running for office I forget where who believes majority rule is socialism! He’ll probably make it, too. But ultimately I think a very large part of the reason the USSR crumbled was that people there could compare their form of government and its effects on their lives, with other forms of government and how other people lived. We can’t do that, partly because we’re so damned arrogant and incurious, partly because those of us not yet bankrupt still do live a lot better than lots of people elsewhere, and finally because our media has ensured our total ignorance of everyone else, including how much better the healthcare system is right next door in Canada. So, the vast majority of Americans still believe very strongly in the superiority of our system to anything else anywhere but disagree vehemently on what needs to be done to fix it, while the 1% continue to rob us blind and crumble the country with the acquiescence and support of our elected officials. Maybe I’m too emotional about this but I just can’t see what happens next.
All these people who speak of Russian Communism being some Wall Street creation is complete garbage, the latest suckers who get yanked into an ever more narrow, America-centric view of history – this one designed to add more fog to the reasons for the outburst of social revolution that occurred at the end of the First World War. The aim is to discredit a great movement by calling black/white and white/black – this time by claiming that Communism was the creation of all of ours enemy – Wall Street. And it is specifically aimed at the duller minds of the left.
The same goes for those who spout this “Communism was a Khazar Jewish Conspiracy” line and it serves the same purpose – to discredit a social idea that moves people from the forests of India to the Jungles of Colombia. Except this one is aimed at the uniformly dull minds of the right-wing. I expect next to hear that Mao Tse Tung and Ho Chi Minh were jews too.
@ Cold N. Holefield wrote “wouldn’t it be great to outlaw homosexuality”
It is Utah that prohibits “the advocacy of homosexuality.” Arizona prohibits portrayals of homosexuality as a “positive alternative life-style” and has legislatively determined that it is inappropriate to even suggest to children that there are “safe methods of homosexual sex.” Alabama and Texas mandate that sex-education classes emphasize that homosexuality is “not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public.” Moreover, the Alabama and Texas statutes mandate that children be taught that “homosexual conduct is a criminal offense” even though criminalizing private, consensual homosexual conduct has been unconstitutional since 2003.
Eight U.S. states, and several cities and counties, have some version of what we call “no promo homo” provisions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-hypocrisy-over-russias-anti-gay-laws/2014/01/31/3df0baf0-8548-11e3-9dd4-e7278db80d86_story.html
Good article, Saker! I’m sure the end of our empire is not too far now.
On a similar note, you all, I read a great piece by Thierry Meyssan over at Voltairenet, also describing how Washington is losing control of the narrative: http://www.voltairenet.org/article183337.html
hey saker,
i realise this is off-topic, and if you feel you should not post it, i understand. nevertheless, i think this article from the bbc is important at least for two reasons.
The founder of Russia’s most popular social network [VKontakte] site says he has been fired and that allies of President Putin have taken over his site.
the news item itself is, i think, newsworthy because founders being pushed away by board members is fascinating in itself. steve jobs was pushed away by the apple board in 1985. however, as it’s happening in russia, the article implies that putin’s allies are running the show.
if this is true, and i don’t know that it is, then i find this disturbing; i understand that when in rome, do as the romans do, but taking control of a company because it doesn’t toe the government line removes any incentive to create the next big thing. why would you if your creation can be taken away from you arbitrarily?
counterpoint to this is the connivance of companies such as facebook, google and microsoft in the NSA’s mass surveillance scheme. i suspect that none of these companies would have stood a chance to survive had they not agreed to participate with the NSA. and that certainly hasn’t hurt the perceived ability to innovate of the US Internet companies.
the other reason that i think this link is important is its source. the bbc is hardly an impartial source of information and is known to present the news in ways that correspond to the political agenda of the british and americans. the bbc quotes techcrunch, which in an earlier article about VKontakte reported that
The freedom of speech issues have reached a peak as Russia has progressively clamped down on platforms where people express viewpoints opposing those of the Kremlin, which is embroiled in a crisis in Ukraine that is spilling into wider diplomatic rifts with other countries like the U.S.
(see? i just managed to pull my comment back on topic!)
and this, to me, is the crux. i share your arguments about the unfolding of events in ukraine in particular, and in general about the danger that the US and their allies pose to the world. however, regarding the internal politics of russia, i am
a) much less informed;
b) skeptical and worried. and i don’t like this latest development one bit.
cheers,
marco
Yeah can you look into Pavel Durov vkontakte page, I find the news very disturbing myself
“Ben said…”
“This is probably a most interesting piece of information about a building project in the Ukraine to convert a school building into something like a guantanamo in the crimea… screenshot of the contract modalities from the US Navy included”
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26222/3105969/
Yes, it’s there: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=2bb691b61c59be3a68180bd8c614a0cb&tab=core&_cview=1
Renovation of Sevastopol School #5, Ukraine
Solicitation Number: N33191-13-R-1240
Agency: Department of the Navy
Office: Naval Facilities Engineering Command
Location: NAVFAC Europe and Southwest Asia
marco,
He may well have made himself persona non grata by creating a particularly odious piece of putschist propaganda:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Russian-Facebook-fires-founder-Pavel-Durov/articleshow/34073542.cms
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/02/22/pro-maidan-video-goes-viral-thanks-to-pavel-durov-russias-zuckerberg/
Also, here’s some other interesting reading I posted a couple threads back:
The crisis in Ukraine is seen pretty clearly by at least some in Arab media: http://journal-neo.org/2014/04/22/rus-krizis-na-ukraine-v-otklikah-arabskih-media/
The BBC is now admitting that “armed Neo-Nazis led the so-called ‘Euromaidan’ uprising”. Yes, the BBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY Tony Cartalucci discusses this: http://journal-neo.org/2014/03/07/bbc-now-admits-armed-nazis-led/
Valentin Katasonov discusses what the FBI will most likely do to or with “stolen” Ukrainian assets located abroad: http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/04/22/what-will-the-fbi-do-with-stolen-ukrainian-assets.html
And last but far from least, Lavrov gave Kerry at least as good as he got: “Before giving us ultimatums, demanding that we fulfill demands within two or three days with the threat of sanctions, we would urgently call on our American partners to fully accept responsibility for those who they brought to power,” http://rt.com/news/us-responsibility-kiev-lavrov-788/
And finally, Tom Burnett,
D’ye ken your Scots history, lad? Or quite likely the future of the land your ancestors fought so bravely to keep? ;~) Scots continue to perform well in various aspects of the Empire — the Black Watch certainly did in Northern Ireland, for example. Afghanistan also.
Saker;
To those, like you, who eagerly await the collapse of Anglo-American capitalism and the social underpinnings of that system; freedom, private property, individual liberty and responsibility. I would caution that you should be very careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
If you think that a society based on: “Despotism, tempered by assassination, that is our Magna Carta” will be an improvement you have a very unpleasant surprise coming to you.
Simple question: Why do you live in Florida?
regards
roger in florida
In reply to marco 20:15
An alternative view:
“Durov sold his remaining stake earlier this year to a company that Usmanov controls, after two co-founders unexpectedly sold their stakes to United Capital Partners (UCP), a Kremlin-friendly investment firm. He appeared to announce his resignation from the company on April 1st, but later claimed that it was an April Fools’ joke, and that he would remain onboard. In a statement issued Monday, however, VK said that Durov submitted a resignation letter on March 21st and never withdrew it within the mandatory one-month window. Because of that, Durov said, he will be “automatically relieved” of his position.”
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/4/22/5638980/russias-largest-social-network-is-under-the-control-of-putins-allies
In reply to marco 20:15
An alternative view:
“Durov sold his remaining stake earlier this year to a company that Usmanov controls, after two co-founders unexpectedly sold their stakes to United Capital Partners (UCP), a Kremlin-friendly investment firm. He appeared to announce his resignation from the company on April 1st, but later claimed that it was an April Fools’ joke, and that he would remain onboard. In a statement issued Monday, however, VK said that Durov submitted a resignation letter on March 21st and never withdrew it within the mandatory one-month window. Because of that, Durov said, he will be “automatically relieved” of his position.”
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/4/22/5638980/russias-largest-social-network-is-under-the-control-of-putins-allies
Anonymous Anonymous said…
“Now Ukraine facists restart “antiterror” just when US vice president have been there to talk to them! Amazing isnt it?!”
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
22 April, 2014 17:33
The Western objectives require the theatre of West Ukraine vs East Ukraine.
Tea
Anonymous Anonymous said..
“RULE BY REFERENDUM.
The solution.”
22 April, 2014 17:40
And going after the Ukranian Oligarchs.
Tea
Not quite on topic, but since many followers of this blog also follow Moon of Alabama, I wonder if anyone else is being blocked from that site? I haven’t been able to access it for two days now.
Very good analysis, Saker. Internal nationalism at least partially brought the S.U. down, which seems unlikely in the U.S., until the Hispanic community much gets larger. Also, they tend to assimilate.
Question regarding Stalin: Came across a book recently, “Khrushchev’s Lied”, by Grover Furr, which contends that every accusation against Stalin and Beria in the Secret Speech is demonstrably false, based on readily available evidence. Here’s a bunch of reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Khrushchev-Lied-Revelation-Khrushchevs-Communist/dp/061544105X . Do you have any familiarity with the book ? Is it worth pursuing further ? Is it worth wasting money on ? The author, from his web page, is a professor of Medieval History at a Montclair State university in New Jersey, who seems to have an avocation researching the Soviet archives. Some of his work has been published in Russia. From his web site, he seems to be some kind of Unitarian Marxist !
If the West wants a little war over the Ukraine they must bet that Russia will allow this to remain limited and localized. Possibly they even hope fir US casualties so as to bring NATO into the Ukraine. I recognize Rusdua does not want war but the West does and this I think alters the ungolding if events. Indeed I suspect war was always option 2, preferred to “losing” the Ukraine. Further this objective goes to destabilizing the CIS by any means necessary.
“Wouldn’t it be great for packs of wild dogs to harass pedestrians in the urban centers of America like they do in Russia because no one can be bothered to engage in animal control?”
Apparently you’ve never walked an urban or suburban street in America. I have. A few years back a pack of 4-5 Dobermans did exactly that to me, twice, while the “owner” stood across the street doing nothing. Guess they thought it was amusing their dogs terrifying passerbys.
In another incident, a neighbors’ Rotweiler took after my nephew, who barely ran and got inside my house unharmed. I called the police and the dog, still roaming around outside, charged the cop and got shot in the rear (survived). Hearing the dog’s yelp, the cowardly “owner” suddenly emerged from behind his house wall wailing, “You shot my dog!”. WTF! A week later we and some other neighbors – yes it seems others had had similar bad encounters with this vicious dog – had to go down to police HQ to testify against dog and owner. The dog was not put down, however, and was returned to its so-called owner. The cops just need to cover their rears since they were involved.
I have had more unpleasant encounters with dogs in an “urban setting” that I care to recount here. I always walk out on the street in any residential neighborhood in case some vicious dog comes charging at me out of some backyard (because that has happened). And this is a relatively “civilized” part of the USA (California). I’d hate to think about what it is like in, say, Texas.
No doubt you meant “feral” dogs in Russia, not surprising in a big country with lots of unsettled space. But what’s the difference when the so-called “domesticated” ones are just as vicious here in the United States of America.
“Wouldn’t it be great for packs of wild dogs to harass pedestrians in the urban centers of America like they do in Russia because no one can be bothered to engage in animal control?”
Apparently you’ve never walked an urban or suburban street in America. I have. A few years back a pack of 4-5 Dobermans did exactly that to me, twice, while the “owner” stood across the street doing nothing. Guess they thought it was amusing their dogs terrifying passerbys.
In another incident, a neighbors’ Rotweiler took after my nephew, who barely ran and got inside my house unharmed. I called the police and the dog, still roaming around outside, charged the cop and got shot in the rear (survived). Hearing the dog’s yelp, the cowardly “owner” suddenly emerged from behind his house wall wailing, “You shot my dog!”. WTF! A week later we and some other neighbors – yes it seems others had had similar bad encounters with this vicious dog – had to go down to police HQ to testify against dog and owner. The dog was not put down, however, and was returned to its so-called owner. The cops just need to cover their rears since they were involved.
I have had more unpleasant encounters with dogs in an “urban setting” that I care to recount here. I always walk out on the street in any residential neighborhood in case some vicious dog comes charging at me out of some backyard (because that has happened). And this is a relatively “civilized” part of the USA (California). I’d hate to think about what it is like in, say, Texas.
No doubt you meant “feral” dogs in Russia, not surprising in a big country with lots of unsettled space. But what’s the difference when the so-called “domesticated” ones are just as vicious here in the United States of America.
halduell said…
Not quite on topic, but since many followers of this blog also follow Moon of Alabama, I wonder if anyone else is being blocked from that site? I haven’t been able to access it for two days now.
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I can’t access it either. Message says: “unknown domain: http://www.moonofalabama.org“
The difference between being subjected to oligarchic rule and being called a participant in it is immense.
Almost n thinking person in the US is happy with the status quo, but our votes are no longer counted in the grand scheme.
whoever is in charge, we do not support them – but we have a way to go before the citizenry is ready and willing to replace the government.
I do not choose to be affiliated by ingerence with the people who actually run the country. It is certainly no longer the citizenry.
We know that, but developing a revolution is impossible on a full stomach.
Dr. Tom
Saker
Again, an excellent analysis. I’ve long thought that the demise of the USSR was due to something like what you called cognitive dissonance about the total perceived hypocrisy of the government there. People no longer believed in it, but had gone along out of fear, mostly, I think, and because they were mostly isolated and unable to successfully band together in a meaningful way to change thing. They had no voice and knew it, and no longer believed the government had their well being in mind, but was just out to maintain the power of the people at the top. A lot like the USA now, as you pointed out.
I first heard about the disillusionment among Soviet citizens through my grandmother back in the 1970’s. She was born in the Ukraine, though the family left Russia when she was very young. This was before WW1. She kept up her knowledge of Russian and Ukrainian over the years and in the mid 70’s took a 2 week vacation in the USSR. Said she had a wonderful time and that the people were very pleasant, but they were also very demoralised. Like a demoralised army, a demoralised populace is unable to overcome adversity. With all those other things bringing the USSR down during the 80’s, that demoralization reached critical mass and the Yeltsin fascists met little resistance when did their coup.
But some level heads retained a healthy skepticism of the westernization process the Yeltsin crew was shoving down their throats. This song, for instance represents some of that. It’s cautionary message about all the worthwhile things the USSR had being tossed out with the negative stuff, the good going in the bin with the bad, and what is replacing it all is a gamble with the odds being mostly unknowable.
Ирина Климова (Я так устала ждать)!!! 1996
http://rutube.ru/video/472c35c7de9b7c92124a335762035215/
Also last night I read an article on the same subject as your piece here that you might find interesting.
Сдерживая – ускоряешь (Reining in [or restraining] – accelerates)
http://www.vz.ru/politics/2014/4/21/683232.html
While I disagree with the author’s view that the US is trying to contain Russia, as they tried to do with the USSR (I think the US is continuing the plan they had in the 80’s to destroy Russia as a viable state), he makes many interesting points. One, for example, he shows that despite pretty much the whole capitalist world being against them, politically, the USSR continued to gain allies through the cold war and was winning on that front.
вот так
-I belatedly suggest that ‘anonymous’ posters ought to leave the forum. I use my name – I am not afraid.
saker , anglo saxon evil empire will not wind down easily unless forced by outside forces.
economics will not force it because england and usa shoudl have ben declared bankrupt long time ago atleast in 2008 . but they get triple a from rating agencies despite printing money. that they get away with is ebcause of military and political bullying.
so only way to pack the bankrupt anglos empire is to militarily defeat it-which is very much possible if only one example be made that anglos dictate does not run any more like in vietnam war loss.
unless england and usa are made to pay for their crimes in manpower and money andshown to the rest of world that they can be stopped from bulying-the evil nation will go on.
so to cut short this pest anglo empire one msut try to destablise their countries.
start with supporting all divisive tendencies intheir countreis. do what they do in other countries. tit for tat is the answer.
@nora
thanks for that excellent linkon VKontakte’s founder’s pro-Maidan propaganda. he must have been looking for a fight – not sure why.
incidentally, durov is busy working on telegram, a competitor to facebook’s whatsapp (notice a pattern here?). whatsapp sold for 19 billion dollar. durov may have jumped ship to stand a chance at a couple of billions himself.
i still don’t think it’s ok they pushed him out of VKontakte, but given that i don’t know enough about the conflict, nor whether such involvement from up above to move him out would work in russia, my opinion on that isn’t too firm.
roger,
I certainly don’t eagerly await our collapse, and I’ve lived through enough assassinations to certainly not want any more, anywhere, ever. What on earth are you talking about? Why are you so touchy? We *are* having problems right now, a lot of them, in case you haven’t noticed. It would be nice to solve them but first we do have to admit they exist.
@guest_77
It’s complete garbage because you said so. The facts speak for themselves. Mr Marx and and Engels were both Freemason Khazars with one making a fortune on the British Stock Market while at the same time writing the manifesto. Get your head out of the rear, or if you’re a khazar, it sucks to be you, and the truth hurts:)
The end goal of communism was globalization, which was readily achieved with the so called capitalism of the USA, so the USSR Plug was pulled….
OT, but sort of related to Durov and vkontakte.
Senator suspects Google of violating Russian law with new terms of service
http://rt.com/politics/russia-google-terms-violation-964/
Being an obvious agent of the ziofascists in the west, Durov was likely facilitating western spook access to vkontake. He was certainly facilitating their “color revolution” crap. Hopefully, those at vkontake who were in cahoots with Durov’s role are going to get booted, along with whatever tools they installed at vkontake to facilitate the peeping toms at NSA and Mossad.
вот так
Here is an excellent summary of how the US is covertly using social media and NGOs to interfere and disrupt the internal politics of others nations:
http://scgnews.com/how-washington-and-its-allies-use-social-media-to-topple-governments-manipulate-public-opinion
Greetings from Singapore:
My suggestion is to ignore postings from this person:
Anonymous Cold N. Holefield said…
If you have doubts, please click on his name/blog.
@TB, contributors should take a nick to avoid confusion. Fear has nothing to do with it. If the feds need to track you down it shouldn’t be too hard whoever you
sign off as.
Good to see MoA alumni here. b, you around? What happened to your site?
aka “ruralito”
Interesting analysis, great blog. The gist of the matter is presented by the article “All Wars Are Bankers Wars”. IMHO ideologies/religions ( bolshevism, nazism, zionism, French revolution ideals) – not personal faith – have been used to implement the “divide et impera” imperialist strategy for centuries, with the judaist cult of bloodthirsty Moloch and its variations (mosaism, judaism, talmudism, zionism, “christianity” since 3rd century, mormonism, wahabism, takfirism, salfism) being at the center of these machinations of the “learned” masters (as in “Protocols”). Add to that many “liberation” movements similarly rooted “in defense of the suffering unfairly treated minorities” starting often with just cause (oppressed peasants, women, working class, now gays), sometimes artificially created/manipulated (humiliation of the Germans after WW1, Jews after WW2, USians after 9/11), soon to be hijacked by the masters and their minions, who use rabid chauvinism (cheap currency, bestowing the right to “do as you will” in exchange for loyalty to the “cause” of the group uased as the vehicle forthe drive to power: feminists, Jews, recently gays) profusely to turn the righteous fight into a revenge frenzy widely applying collective punishment and introducing reign of terror (often suing false flag operations). Right away after the regime change new puppets of old masters are brought to power, old “revolutionaries” removed and yet another formula of the population control implemented in this ongoing social experiment.
The global, centuries old elite ruling the Western world are monopoly (oligpoly) men, they consider competition “a sin” (Rockefeller), hell bent on creating total world domination and police state – until then they need to maintain illusions among the western societies of “freedom”, “democracy”, higher living standars to use the masses as the leverage against target nations, and as cannon fodder, stupid addicted consumers). They rule by monopolies on currency (FED), food (patents by Monsanto, Big Agra, WalMart, UN Codex Alimentaris), information (6 MSM giants), energy (Exxon, BP, RDS, Chevron), finance (JP Morgan, Goldman Sucks, BoA), water supply, land (in Africa), healthcare (Big Pharma, Big Insurance), education (“reform by Rockefeller Foundation), history (Smithonian), communications (Verizon, ATT,). Big Corporations protected by private armies (Blackwater/Academi/Monsanto), throwing dissenters to prvate prisons have free hand to engage in really profitable businesses of war, human trafficking, organ harvesting, weapon sales, drug production and distribution, slave labor.
The ruling elite made of pychopats, engaged in pedophilia, human sacrifies and other barbaric perversions to close ranks and keep checks on each other.
The centerpiece of this satanic scheme is the PetroDollar printed at will, almost at no cost, with limitless suplly needed to pay off all the evil men (financial speculators, presidents, dictators, juntas, gangs, mafias, terrorists, mercenaries, armies, politicians, professors, journalists, doctors, teachers, managers, law enforcer) supporting this satanic contruct exploiting every corner of the dark side of the human nature. Similar role is of the British pound (governs the Commonwealth) and French franc (governs the African Union).
If you want to make the US citizens free – end the FED.
Who’s on the top? Recent years have seen the transfer of wealth from the bottom poor to the top rich unprecedented in human history. At the top of list of the world wealthiest people in history are: the Windsors (related to Bushes) and the Rothshildes (founders of Israel). That’s AngloZionist empire.
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@guest77 hasbaratchik ( I expect next to hear that Mao Tse Tung and Ho Chi Minh were jews too).
Mao was not Jew, but:
“Sidney Rittenberg (August 14, 1921; Chinese name: Lǐ Dūnbái 李敦白) is an American interpreter and scholar who lived in China from 1944 to 1979. He worked closely with People’s Republic of China (PRC) founder Mao Zedong, military leader Zhu De, statesman Zhou Enlai, and other leaders of the Communist party during the war, and was with these central Communist leaders at Yan’an. He witnessed first-hand much of what occurred at upper levels of the CCP and knew many of its leaders personally. He was the first American citizen to join the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)”.
“Three CPPCC [politburo] members with foreign origins celebrated their 90th birthday (2005) together at Jingfeng Hotel, one of the hotels in Beijing appointed for the NPC and CPPCC sessions, on March 8. Israel Epstein, Sidney Shapiro (Sha Boli) and Chen Bidi were born in Poland, the United States and Canada respectively, and they obtained Chinese nationality in 1957 and 1963. As experts who have long been working in the field of foreign publicity, they witnessed China’s revolution and socialist modernization drive”.
I don’t know about Ho Chi Minh. There is a vague allusion nonetheless (Wikipedia):
“In 1946, future Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion and Ho Chi Minh stayed at the same hotel in Paris, and became very friendly. Ho Chi Minh offered Ben Gurion a Jewish home-in-exile in Vietnam. Ben-Gurion turned the offer down, however, telling Ho Chi Minh: “I am certain we shall be able to establish a Jewish Government in Palestine.”
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As to your phrase “Anglozionist empire”, I love it! It rolls Cecil Rhodes and Teodor Hertzl into one neat universalist package. For those not aware of the fact, fact is that the majority of Zionists in the world are fundamentalist North American Christians.
As to your analysis, I concur. My fear is that the Anglozionist empire will not go gladly into that good night. The lunatics with their fingers on the button may decide they can outlive nuclear holocaust and emerge to a renewed paradise. I fear that instead of a shining city on a hill they will only be able to build a city on a glowing slag heap.
Surprisingly, though I disagree completely with her philosophy, Any Rand describes just such a collapse as you project in her Atlas Shrugged, as does Jarad Diamond in his book Collapse.
Very sober and true analysis as usually.
It is absolutely very simple, so many lies from the past are coming out/ even lies which century old /. There is no power on this earth which can stop this collapse because so many people and nations got hurt.If you go these days through the Mexico – USA or Canada-USA border you will experience exact treatment what was used in the former communist countries. This is nothning just a confirmation that the Empire was holding the communist countries under terror and they have just simply “rehearsed” for many years what they are implying right now under the pretext of the Globalization.The invasion of Hungary and Czechoslovakia was intentional because the plan wasn’t finish yet.
If you don’t like the analysis from the Saker what about the script when the Russia,China,Saudi Arabia, India,Brazil will ask the USA to repay their debt exactly at the same day!!!!!!!!
It will be nothing else just simply and quietly pull the rug from the bottom of the house built from the cards.
These greedy psychopaths has destroyed the middle class around the all world, they have destroyed the very important part of the structure of the society and the question for now is:”Who is going to hold the roof before the all thing will colapse?”
Time is running out for the US dollar
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_22/Time-is-running-out-for-the-US-dollar-5142/
…“ The US doesn’t have that much time in order to prepare for a serious weakening of the US dollar on the global stage and, conversely, for a serious strengthening of regional currencies’ role. The maximum amount of time they can count on is 18 months. During this period they must prepare for a situation in which their main instrument of global control, i.e. the control of the circulation of the main global reserve and trade currency, will become seriously weakened,” he wrote in a recent blogpost cited by the Russian media outlets.
During Obama’s second term, the relations between the US and most global players including China, Russia, India and, to a certain extent, the EU have reached new low points. This situation is somewhat similar to the situation before WWII and WWI when America benefited from global conflicts that destroyed the economies of America’s competitors. It is said that third time is charm, but the rest of the world would be better off if Washington can’t pull the same trick for a third time in a row. The era in which Washington was the main beneficiary of global instability and regional conflicts must come to an end.”
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