Okay, let’s be clear. I am not Muslim. I oppose terrorism. I don’t even support the death penalty. I loathe Takfirism. I oppose violence as a means to make a political or ethical point. I fully support freedom of speech, including critical speech and humor.
But this morning I am most definitely NOT Charlie.
In fact, I am disgusted and nauseated by the sick display of collective hypocrisy about the murders in France. Here is why:
Charlie Hebdo for the Darwin Awards
The folks at Charlie Hebdo had it coming. Here is what I wrote about them in September 2012 when they published their famous caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed: Worthy of the Darwin Awards, if you ask me. Excellent, the “gene pool” of the French “caviar-Left” badly needs some cleaning“. Today I fully stand by my words.
Just a stupid dare?
Let me ask you this: what would be the point of, say, taking a nap on train tracks? You don’t have to “agree” with the train which will run you over, but it still will, won’t it? What about taking a nap on train tracks specifically to make a point? To prove that the train is bad? To dare it? To make fun of it? Would that not be the height of stupidity? And yet, that is *exactly* what Charlie Hebdo did. I would even argue that that his how Charlie Hebdo made it’s money, daring the “Muslim train” to run them over. You think I am exaggerating? Check out the caricature which one of the folks who got murdered yesterday had just posted. The text reads: “Still no terrorist attacks in France – Wait, we have until the end of January to send you are best wishes“. The crazy person shown in the drawing is packing a Kalashnikov and wearing an Afghan “Pakol” – the typical “crazy Muslim” in Charlie Hebdo’s world. Talk about a stupid dare…
“Spitting in people’s souls”
There is an expression in Russian: spitting in somebody’s soul. It fully applies here. Muslims worldwide have be unambiguously clear about that. They take blasphemy very, very seriously, as they do the name of the Prophet and the Quran. If you want to really offend a Muslim, ridicule his Prophet or his Holy Book. That is not a secret at all. And when Charlie Hebdo published their caricatures of the Prophet and when they ridiculed him the a deliberately rude and provocative manner, they knew what they were doing: they were very deliberately deeply offending 1.6 billion Muslims world wide. Oh, and did I mention that in Islam blasphemy is a crime punishable by death? Well, it turns out that of 1.6 billion Muslims exactly three decided to take justice in their own hands and kill the very deliberately blaspheming Frenchmen. You don’t have to be Muslim or to approve of the death penalty for blasphemy to realize that this was inevitable and that this has nothing to do with Islam as a religion. Offend any group as large as 1.6 billion and sooner or later you will find 1-5 folks willing to use violence to make you pay for it. This is a statistical inevitability.
Are some victims more equal then others?
So 12 deliberately “soul spitting blasphemers” were murdered and all of France is in deep mourning. The media worldwide does such a good job presenting it all as a planetary disaster that many thousands people worldwide say “I am Charlie”, sob, light candles and take a “courageous” stance for freedom of speech.
Crocodile tears if you ask me.
The Empire’s freedom fighter
The fact is that the AngloZionists have carefully and lovingly nurtured, organized, armed, financed, trained, equipped and even directed the Takfiri crazies for decades. From the war in Afghanistan to Syria today these murderous psychopaths have been the foot-soldiers of the AngloZionist Empire for decades. But, apparently, nobody cares about their victims in Afghanistan, in Bosnia, in Chechnia, in Kosovo, in Libya, in Kurdistan, in Iraq or elsewhere. There these liver-eating murderers are “freedom fighters” who get full support. Including from the very same media which today is in mourning over Charlie Hebdo. Apparently, in the western ethos some victims are more equal then others.
And when is the last time somebody in Europe shed a single tear over the daily murders of innocent people in the Donbass whose murder is paid for and directly directed by the western regimes?
How stupid do they think we are?
And then this. Even a drooling idiot knew that Charlie Hebdo was THE prime target for that kind of attack. And I promise you that French cops are not drooling idiots. Yet, for some reason, they were nowhere to be seen that day. Only a van with two (or one?) cop was parked nearby (hardly an anti-terrorist protection detail) and one poor cop was shot and then executed with an AK shot to the head while he was begging for mercy. Is this the best the French state can do?
Hardly.
So what is going on here? I will tell you what – the EU 1%ers are now capitalizing on these murders to crack down on their own population. Sarkozy already met Hollande and they both agreed that new levels of firmness and vigilance need to be implemented. Does that not reek of a French 9/11?
So no, I am most definitely NOT Charlie this morning and I am disgusted beyond words with the obscene display of doubleplusgoodthinking “solidarity” for a group of “caviar-lefties” who made their money spitting in the souls of billions of people and then dared them to do something about it. And I am under no illusion whatsoever about the fact that cui bono clearly indicates that the French regime either organized it all, or let it happen or, at the very least, makes maximal political use of it all.
But most of all, I am disgusted with all those who play along and studiously avoid asking the right questions about all this. I guess they really are “Charlies” all of them.
I am not.
The Saker
This incidents has all the hallmarks of a Mossad False Flag. See my blog for details:
greencrowasthecrowflies.blogspot.ca
Pauvre, pauvre Gauche Caviar — mes yeux s’emplissent de larmes pour vous. Je me souviens bien des attentats de 2011 en Norvège. Épouvantables, bien sûr, mais aussi un peu amusants, car ce charmant islamophobe M. Breivik s’en foutait complètement de la soi disant “Communauté Internationale” et la lutte sacrée antiterroriste au Moyen Orient pour se venger sur ses propres compatriotes. Cette fois-ci, les coupables se sont également foutus de la “Communauté Internationale” et sa lutte sacrée contre la Syrie et la Russie par le wahabbisme pour se venger sur des gens européens bien cultivés. Seigneur, quelle horreur!
Europe and the west….
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40644.htm
Police Now Monitoring and Criminalizing Online Speech
By Glenn Greenwald
January 07, 2015 “ICH” – “The Intercept”- British soldiers were killed in Afghanistan by a roadside explosive device, and a national ritual of mourning and rage ensued. Prime Minister David Cameron called it a “desperately sad day for our country.” A British teenager, Azhar Ahmed, observed the reaction for two days and then went to Facebook to angrily object that the innocent Afghans killed by British soldiers receive almost no attention from British media. He opined that the UK’s soldiers in Afghanistan are guilty, their deaths deserved, and are therefore going to hell:
The following day, Ahmed was arrested and “charged with a racially aggravated public order offense.” The police spokesman explained that “he didn’t make his point very well and that is why he has landed himself in bother.” The state proceeded to prosecute him, and in October of that year, he was convicted “of sending a grossly offensive communication,” fined and sentenced to 240 hours of community service.
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Much laughter is guaranteed by French Comedian Dieudonné on the hypocrisy of “free speech” the West—5 videos in all . Enjoy! the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awXdtQK8bfU&feature=youtu.be&list=PLAj7JbDZc1oFv8BETILSMVUeYJ4lO0DzA
There is much of the above commentary where I do not disagree. That said, my own personal opinion is that anybody who believes in death to “blasphemers” is bug-nuts irrational. Crazy as an out-house mouse.
Who flung goo at whom for how many decades is irrelevant to the idiotic belief of “death to unbelievers, to infidels”.
Hello Saker, I’ve been lurking here for about a year and have overall been quite impressed with both your own insight and the intelligent and thoughtfull community that you have created. I have never really felt the need to add to the discussion before because I’ve always found that somebody or other had already expressed my feelings. Today however, there are a few things I think should be said. First, I agree with your post, but I think it should be made clear that what happened in Paris has nothing to do with “Free Speech”, zero. This is because the freedom of speech is a restriction on the actions of the State. I think many people are confused about this and think that free speech is some kind of ethos or lifestyle. But it is only a limitation of the State’s ability to take action against an individual bescause of what they say. This freedom does not apply in any other interaction, as anyone who has ever been employed should know. No non-state entity can reasonably be guilty of violating someone’s right to free speech. They can be gulity of crimes against one’s person or property, which is what happened. The idea that Charlie Hebdo was defending free speech is thus ridiculous. The French state was never threatening them in any way over their publications, though as others have pointed out, the claims by the French state to defend freedom of speech are hypocritical.
The staff at Charlie Hebdo were murdered with the (apparent, though this is far from proven) motivation of revenge for extreme offense taken. Though I certainly do not condone this crime, I cannot see anything positive in publication with the intent to offend. With all due respect to Mr. Rushdie and the posters who defended the magazine on the basis of the importance of satire, the target of satire is Power, the powerful, and the dominant ideas of a society. But muslims are not the power structure in France. As others have pointed out muslims are a people that is currently under military assualt from the west (often with the active support of the French state). No one in their right mind would mistake cartoons of African-Americans as laszy savages from the American south during slavery or Jim-crow for satire. Nor would any sane person claim that nazi caricatures of blood-thirsty conniving jews was satirical, and so I cannot take this argument seriously.
At most, one could argue that the artists and publishers of Charlie Hebdo truly felt that Islam represented a dangerous growing power in their society, and that they stood on principle and demonstrated bravery in face of the real potential for retaliation. I will not deny this. I don’t know this magazine and don’t claim to know their feelings or motivations. I will just say that principle and bravery can also be put into the service of stupidity and malice, and I think that is what happened here. And so, je nesuis Charlie.
Very good thinking in your comment.
People must know who their enemy is. Free people are always threatened by Power. The enemy of all citizens is firstly their government, Power as you say.
All humans are also threatened by Terrorism. Islam has lost control of its status as world religion. We know it is not just Saudi and Qatar financing the Wahhabi terror. Indonesian madrassas are spawning many of the most fanatical.
This will end badly for Islam. It probably will take a catastrophic WMD event and then the rest of the world will take vengeance.
Brillant !!!
You put the words to my feeling.
Abundance of Blessings.
I think the Saker is clearly wrong when he says the cartoons should not have been published. He is blinded by his hatred for the West (whatever it means, because Russia is part of the West of course) to really understand what is at stake here.
Is this attack exploited by hypocrite politicians who nurtured terrorism abroad and let in millions of Africans ? Of course. Was Charlie-Hebdo regularly publishing disgusting cartoons on Christianity and other topics ? Of course. But if patriots like me are willing to take on their own politicians, they are not ready to give in to islamic threats and, basically invasion. We will not take sides with fanatic muslims to change our political regime and civilization. There is a thin line between rabid anti-islamism by fanatic Israeli supporters and rabid antisemitism by islamic supporters. True western patriots, of course, should wear as we say in Paris “no kippa and no keffieh”.
By saying that the cartoons SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED (I insist on that this is fundamental) the Saker is directly insulting French honour & pride ! Mark my word. It is basically a matter of letting your heart or your brain speak first. We want to be able to picture Muhamad as a pig. It’s our way. Our French way. If it bothers 7544564856 muslims we don’t give a damn, we’re at home we do as we wish. No doubt, a rat would be rational and not publish it, and hide, and submit to the 1.6 Muslims. Dear Saker, whom I often read with pleasure, whom depicted us the heroic resistance going on in Donbass, are you telling us we should behave like rats and hide ? Is that the way you would have behave in 1942 ?
What is it that necessitates insulting one’s religion? What is the point of it? What is productive about it? What is there to be proud of? Racism? Hatred?
You claim a right to insult Islam and muslims, that is your “French way”! And then you accuse Saker that – by suggesting restraint and arguing against insulting Islam – he is “directly insulting French honour & pride” !?
Have you also felt insulted when your government restricted the free speech right of the French comedian Dieudonne by banning him from making public appearances?
Is there a better illustration of French hypocrisy?
The plan goes fast:
“ISIS fighters’ threats concerning potential attacks in Western countries serve perfectly the plan, which is to transfer the wars from borders to urban centers. Indeed, since a citizen of any Western country, attached to the ISIS or other extremist groups, is determined to die in a bloodbath at the heart of this country, the protection of borders has no meaning, and citizens start to wonder about the ability of the nation-state to protect them.”
http://bit.ly/1xommNZ
Dears Saker, Dears Bloggers,
thanks for the enlightening words, I feel surrounded by thinking people on this new site (what a timing to start on such a sad day…) while all around Europe hysteria is skyrocketing.
People have generally dismissed the chance of thinking, they delegate most of their lives.
The level of hypocrisy and (in)voluntary hilarity in MSM is amazing: today I read the “terrorist” are still wearing the balaclava and showing machine guns and bazooka while trying to hide and escape: interesting choice of disguise indeed, just a little beforehand carnival time, while millions of western murders are kindly wiped away. How to psy-turn a reality upside down.
Hope the global deadly show will stop soon, humankind deserves a much better world.
A deep thank to Gevorg, “X”, “A”, “O” and “A” for the precious work!
Love to all of you
MM
BTW — we can not, of course, dismiss the possibility of a false flag, as with any of these sorts of attacks. Yet, assuming this was an attack Muslim terrorists, a coherent narrative concerning the forces in play generally can be built since there are surely some of them somewhere who would gladly have done this attack if they had the opportunity.
In the meantime we need to arrest all girls named Brenda, and all people who do not like Mondays, as potential terrorists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Elementary_School_shooting_%28San_Diego%29
Oh — and all photographers with brain trauma too (et cetera) — for we must overgeneralize everything now to advance the imperialist narrative above all. The show must go on!
Writer is perfectly right. Where you guys are when the west is telling the UK to do massacre in Donbass. The Westerners are totally r-o-tt-en. They feel happy when their Air-Craft drop 1000lb on a completely innocent family in Afganistan or like wise in Vietnam,etc etc etc etc….. Where are you all halucinated guys. Wake up for your Karma. Sooner or Later you all would pay….
Lest we forget the French Secret Service’s efforts in NZ against the Rainbow Warrior. And they still control/own New Caledonia etc. go figure! Next the ‘barbarians’ will be blowing up wedding parties to enforce their will and values — wait, they are already doing that in Afghanistan and Yemen etc. Why the surprise in seeing an uptick in this type of urban warfare when “Mr Exceptional” himself, gets his rocks off on Tuesday mornings by a few extrajudicial dronings of civilians?
This was as believable as the ” isis beheadings” Probably done in Disney Studios and over seered by the CIA and the Mossad
What happened in France is an atrocity. No one can condone it. But why do people go to such extremes of violence?
It must be because they are simply mad fanatical religious extremists and we must wage war on them.
It couldn’t possibly be because the great force for good in the world, the great USA, the upholder of our democratic and free market values is driving people to do these things.
NO, NEVER.
The USA would never expropriate the natural resources of a whole region in the world for its own gain.
It would never have a policy to create a state of perpetual conflict in the region causing untold misery.
It would never murder innocent men, women and children if they stood in the way of its commercial interests.
The USA is a force for good. Everyone knows that.
This thinking is just silly thinking. I do not know what came over me. Maybe I should not worry about thinking and just read the main stream media instead. What happened in France must have been because of a group of mad religious people with guns.
” Offend any group as large as 1.6 billion and sooner or later you will find 1-5 folks willing to use violence to make you pay for it. This is a statistical inevitability.”
Could that be the reason that you restrict yourself to the personal offense and ridicule of only gay persons — because they comprise only a small group that wouldn’t pose much of a threat to you?
I know that whenever I read one of your denigrating comments about gay persons, I sit here and imagine how my gay friends would feel if they were reading it. But I guess that’s OK because there aren’t very many of them.
In my opinion the only entities deserving of universal ridicule are those collections of superstitious claptrap called “relilgions.” Personally, it is my belief that everyone, everywhere should start posting solidly-supported ridicule of ALL forms of religious clap-trap, as a way to encourage, embolden and motivate all who oppose the very idea of organized superstition, and keep that up until the truth about religion finally penetrates the skulls of even the most obtuse among us.
In the meanwhile, they can’t get us all. And with reference to the specific case under discussion, that Allah fellow must be some puny god indeed, if he can;t even stand up to criticism and ridicule.
Only after humanity manages to pull itself up out of the putrid swamps of religious belief will we be able to achieve peace.
Saker is a bigot. That isn’t all he is, and he provides a valuable service covering Ukraine. But bigot is a part of his character, and he’s too ideologically blind to realize it. So he’ll champion the Eastern Ukrainians right to freedom and self-determination while also dismissing gays as freaks and nutjobs. In this he reveals not only his hypocrisy but also his utter scientific illiteracy. Gays and bisexuals are born that way, there is no significant scientific debate on this issue. And even if they weren’t, it still wouldn’t be grounds to discriminate against them. What two consenting adults get up to with each other is their business, and just because your sacred bronze age book and cultural background make you feel oogie about it doesn’t give you the right to persecute them. If you truly believe they’re sinners than you should also be confident they will ultimately answer for their misdeeds. So let them be gay and have legal rights and freedom from harassment, and you (Saker) can go on being a smug little metaphysical fascist. If you’re right you’ll have the last laugh.
Well, I think you are going a bit.
I know Saker has never said anything against “let them be gay have their rights and freedom from harassment”.
Simply differ as to the theory that of being a condition of birth and is more inclined to the version of impaired self-perception.
Saker has opened several threads specifically for this topic and even been discussed extensively with some gay in the comments section (see previous questionnaire to 2nd open thread, as I recall). I have never participated in the discussion and tell you why: this subject bores me sovereign. In my country you’re even in the soup, every hour on all televisions (always criticizing in very bad course), if someone is subject to positive discrimination, are not women, but you.In the end I have some indigestion at the expense yours. I wonder what the hell you complain if you are a most protected species much more than abused women or children.
I have known people who are homosexual, male and female, good people, dedicated to work and make their life without whatsoever public fanfare. For these my complete respect and understanding.
First time trying the link coding – hope this works.
Pinkwatching And Pinkwashing: Interpenetration and its Discontents
Discussion about, and photo of, a float in a SF gay pride parade depicting a gay man using a giant nuclear warhead shaped dildo to butt rape a figure representing the Iranian president.
And here is the wannabe Ahmadinejad butt rapers bragging about their float and how it got a very positive response from the gays and gay supporting crowd at the parade:
Iranian President beaten into Submission at Pride
The parade, and those participating were approved beforehand by both the city government and the parade organizers. Imagine the outrage had some Palestinians depicted a Palestinian man butt raping a famous female Israeli leader – say Golda Meir? But it’s all OK because it was gays butt raping a Muslim leader. Maybe now people can see why these “parades” are unwelcome in Russia and in many other places.
I used to be favourably disposed to gays, but the last 20 years of seeing that kind of hypocrisy and bigoted rubbish repeated again and again, and with regard to many different issues has converted my previous positive view to one of negative. You lot need to do a hell of a lot of house cleaning.
I’m sure that you’re absolutely correct about gay persons needing to do a lot a housecleaning. I mean, how dare they act in such a way as to prove that they, as a group, are just exactly like we straight persons, as a group. Each group has its share of ugly, crazy, offensive and disrespectful persons, but apparently only gay persons are to be singled out for “housecleaning.”
Your reply completely misrepresents the points I was making and instead plows ahead with the usual strawman rubbish hasbararats always engage in on the web. You’re not helping your cause.
This is the sort of rubbish I mean that changed my view of gays from positive to negative.
#JeSuisCharlie: LGL Expresses Solidarity to the Shooting Victims of Charlie Hebdo
“J. Cabu‘s and Charlie Hebdo staff‘s fight for freedom…” Yeah, right. The zionazi “right” to bigotry and dehumanization of those they want to mass murder or exploit. This sort of bigoted fascism is pretty much universal among mainstream gay advocacy fronts, along with reinforcement of whatever propaganda the ZPC demands. The public denouncement of this ziofascism/fascism is miniscule in the gay community, the public support for it, deafening.
No. Muslims can be offended as much as they want. They can protest, or make their own insulting comics in response. What they don’t have, under either French law or a more general sense of human decency, is a right to retaliate with violence. If you want to say this was playing with fire to the extent that the magazine was doing something they knew would piss a lot of people off and which already had a record of violent reprisals, I would agree with you. But the appropriate response is to condemn the attackers, unequivocally. Maybe the magazine was run by assholes. Fine, it was their right to be assholes. And they were willing to do it because they believed they lived in a safe country where a violent attack would not be a likely repercussion. Clearly they were wrong in that assessment.
And any discussion of how the French government and its ‘allies’ (masters more like) supports and inflicts far worse harm on a regular basis is merely deflecting from the central point. This magazine published some pictures. The response was death. That response is monstrous, and the perpetrators utter bastards. And anyone who things it can be justified, or explained away, or contextualized to be less horrible, is a fool. And in a broader sense, anyone, and apparently there are millions of people like this globally, who has the thought process of ‘they drew a picture of my Holy Figure. I don’t like my Holy Figure drawn. I should kill them.’ is worthy of the label ‘savage’, pure and simple. And I make no apologies for that statement. So they drew a picture of your Prophet. Sad day for you. Go be offended in a corner, or voice your anger. But no matter how angry you are you will never, ever, have the right to injure or kill people. And however many failings Western societies may have, the belief that you should at least be able to merely voice an opinion, no matter how inflammatory or foul, in full confidence that there will be no legal censor or risk of bodily harm isn’t one of them. Freedom of speech is a mark of civilization, full stop. And if someone doesn’t like that, I suggest they carefully reexamine their assumptions of just how civilized they truly are.
A mark of civilization is protecting the weaker members…..ideally by setting up systems to automate this, so possibly corrupt individual judgement doesn’t have to come into it.
Nobody has absolute freedom to do anything.
Nobody has absolute rights to anything.
Why? because freedoms and rights apply to EVERYONE, so everyone’s freedom has to be curtailed at the boundary of his freedom starting to infringe on someone else’s.
Simply put, your right to wave your arms about STOPS a few inches from my nose, to avoid conflict with MY right not to be randomly punched.
Generally, rights to be free FROM some bad outcome trumps others’ rights TO act freely.
You are free to drive a car, SUBJECT TO keeping to the road rules, because others have the right to be free FROM being randomly smashed by you. The rules let everyone share a common good (easy transportation) without having to constantly re-negotiate the manner of that sharing at every intersection.
This applies to freedom of speech as to anything else. Types of speech known to offend or harm large numbers of others can be legitimately barred, same as “self expression” through loud music can be barred at times when most others are trying to sleep. There is no tyranny involved in this type of restriction.
The “freedom of speech” enshrined in the American constitution, and by constitution or common law in other countries, is a freedom from prosecution by the STATE for what you say. It does not mean websites can’t moderate your comments, clubs can’t exclude you, or bikers can’t punch you out for insulting them.
IF the Charlie shooting was really done by Muslim militants…IF….then it was a reaction to insult, not an attack on free speech. Otherwise …more likely…it was an incident to further cement the anti-Islam sentiment that Charlie had already spent years promoting.
You do not have the right to not be offended. If you don’t like something, don’t read it. A magazine printed a cartoon, some guys were ‘offended’ and decided to respond with murder. Those guys are (were) monsters, pure and simple.
LOL, who do you think you are? His daddy? That’s one of the most absurd statements I’ve seen in the comments section here. But given the anti-Muslim bigotry you expressed in “Jack January 08, 2015”, above that reply, I can see where your self-important delusions of authority are coming from and why you are defending hate propaganda.
I’m not anti-Muslim. I’m anti-crazies-who-think-they-can-murder-people-when-their-feelings-get-hurt. Such people are savages, pure and simple.
No, you do not have a right to not be offended. If you don’t like something, ignore it, like an actual f***** g adult and not a child. Given the number of things in existence and the number of people on the planet, there is always going to be something, somewhere that pi*** s off someone. Tough luck. Ignore it, protest it, make your own equally vile responses, you have a lot of options. Assault and murder are not among them.
Further, who decides what is ‘offensive’? And once you’ve set that precedent for censorship, how long until dissenting voices like the Vineyard are shut down? Freedom of speech must include the freedom to offend.
Is this ‘strategy of tension’ going to be the new normal in Europe .Are the insane warmongers trying to use Islamaphobia to not only destroy the Muslim peoples but to pit them against the insouciant westerners in order to sow more hatred and alienation .Are all these Langley terrorist types the new ‘tools’ to maintain perpetual warfare against anyone that opposes the ‘new World Order’ within the guise of fighting ‘terror’ .It would seem that the ‘Cabal’ not only has the goal of destroying the Muslims but also utilizing them against any resistance to further their hegemonic goals . So in short blame the ‘Muslims’ and we are doing everything that we can to ‘protect you’ . What a disgrace!
Oh thanks. That is good to read.
I think French intell did it. Those guys always overdo it. I don’t believe the insulting cartoonists put out that dare it was part of the overdoing of the false-flag narrative. I don’t believe a policeman was killed in that phoney headshot. Nor do I believe that the “shooter” failed to notice that his shot (which was a blank) missed. As for one of the shooters leaving his ID behind– various intell services have done that to death.
I’m sorry people died, buit I disbelieve that those blamed for it are guilty. I refuse to believe that after merciless, professional killings, one of the killers GAVE HIMSELF UP a few hours later, unless it was to inform them that he was Lee Harvey Oswald.
I don’t insist that my opinion is correct. But I sure insist that the Boston Marathon and Sandy Hook were phoney flags where no one was hurt. So what the heck?!
God Bless you Saker for this.
@ all the ones that are screaming for their right to freedom of speech.Consider:Your western countries have for many decades shut the true voice of Islam allowing only the wahabi one to be heard for expediency reasons ,they having the money and the petrol that allow you all to enjoy your actual living standard or for zionist purposes(remember the Clash of civilization?).In Europe and especially in France you have parked your moslem immigrants in horrible dormitory towns because you needed their works but you didn’t want them around you and you continuously permitted waves after waves of immigrants into your territories knowing full well and History here is witness that of all continents your continent is the one that can’t digest the Others who ever they are.
Meanwhile the West have been waging relentless colonials wars against the countries of origin of your immigrants.These wars have been economical,financial,cultural and sometimes military bringing with them brutality ,death and untold misery to millions of people around the world.So as to ensure your continuous wellbeing.
You have given up the right of your muslim citizens to have their pastors of choice and their religious community of choice.You have forced down their throat a religion that was never theirs,a cult that is fascist, intolerant ,mortal to the human soul and the human life,in short you have restricted Islam to a renegat,Wahabism to whom you have entrusted the souls and minds against any good sense.
Why did you act this way?Because the gulf countries in exchange of the influence acquired on millions of muslim europeans rescued your economies time and again.
There is another reason why all your governments coveted the beard fanaticals.Did it ever occur to you that contemporary to the successive reductions of your armies the geniusses that are governing you came out with the idea of having a quasi gratis parallel army of mercenaries,these wahabis/takfiris guns for hire,that I have seen in action in the ex Yugoslavia and that now can be seen via horrendous youtube in Syria,Iraq,Yemen,Mali for example?
I have watched in disbelief the length to which Europe went to topple Assad of Syria allowing unspeakable hate speeches that are calling on murdering all who are not wahabis 24/24 seven days a week on countless arabic Gulf Channels ,Aljazeera and all being broadcast to Europe.I have seen hundred of european mass media calling day in day out for the toppling of the Syrian state.Thousand of brainwashed europeans -some not even “muslims”responded to the “call of duty”and rushed to Syria to commit mass crimes of unspeakable horrors,decorating trees and fences with cut of heads,barbequeuing others,and then the chicken came home to roost.So now all the phariseans are calling I am Charlie Hebdo.
You have with your disgusting double standards cornered 1,6 billions of moslems around the globe.They have watched in disbelief and horror first the Charlie Hebdo disgusting campaign against their sanctum sanctorum,the Coran and the Prophet(pub),then the violent response in the name of their Islam that has been so conveniently hijacked by the followers of Abdel Wahab the heretic and now and not for the first time the demonization of their Belief.Where do you think you are going in this atrocious game?
How do you dare defend “Free Speech” in countries where the mocking of jews(after the mocking at nauseam of Christ ,His Crucifixion,the Virgin Mary,Islam) or of the holocaust industry drives you directly to jail?
How dare you defend Free Speech in countries where the defense of Palestine see your career ruined for ever?
How dare you defend “Free Speech”where the challenging of the doxa on second world war or 9/11 turns you to a dirty and dangerous revisionist(try to publish anything about the above mentioned subjects,holocaust,cartoons of” jews”,Palestine,second world war,concentration camps etc)?
And then freedom of speech does not entail insulting others because our freedom stops where mine starts.This is a very basic concept upon which Law have been based.All societies and by extension countries need a certain code in order to prosper and progress.All countries have in their penal code laws that forbid the disruption of civil life.
He who lives by the sword shall perish by the sword.
Qui seme le vent recolte la tempete.
2 quotations from Jesus Christ that are so real today…
@BCH
I agree with many of the things you say. But the French, like every nation in the world, and even like most (if not all) individuals, have many contradictions in their thinking:
– They actually do believe in the idea of “free speech” but are under pressure from their AZ-controlled government not to mention subjects like the holocaust, 9-11 etc
– like all Western AZ-controlled MSM (main stream media) their media feeds them a continuous and heavy diet of lies and misrepresentations f. ex. about Syria, Iraq etc – and in France like everywhere in the West the only people who know are those who take the time (and have the technical and language capabilities) to look for honest news on the Internet. And I believe that a large majority of those blog-readers are as horrified by the events in Syria as you are – and if the French public knew I also believe that they would recoil in shock.
And as you post here on the Vineyard I understand that you are also a thruth-seeker as most of us are – and if your are indeed a muslim as your comment seems to imply then I honestly salute you. Please consider however that muslim thinking is not free of contradictions either: Islam knows different directions of thinking some of which (f. ex. Sufism) are even non-violent and philosophical. Thanks to the Vineyard I now understand that the islamic world also includes many tolerant muslims and some remakable scholars and thinkers – however I am somewhat uncomfortable with the basic tenet of Islam that every human who does not accept Allah must burn in hell for all eternity and therefore must either be conquered or destroyed. I feel that this is also a basic contradiction in Islam, which is IMO (in my opinion) one of the reasons why Islam is poorly understood in the West – and not only in the West as the profound divisions between tolerant and intolerant muslims show.
Please do not take my comment as a criticism – I rather mean it as a honest effort at communication between two very different worlds.
Btw (by the way) you may have read my personal vote for “I am Charlie” and I feel an explanation here is important for a mutual understanding: when I say “I am Charlie” I mean that I want to defend myself (and my loved ones) against abuses from my government, from other governments and from other powerful organizations. So whoever the assassins in Paris were “I am Charlie” against them – maybe the French government, or Mossad, or the CIA, or even the Takfiris – in my personal view the most likely candidates are the French government (to strenghten the police state) and Mossad (revenge for the vote onPalestine).
Salutation and regards
BCH,
Amazing response. You possess great clarity of mind with a profound writing ability.
It’s as simple as living by the “Golden Rule” ;
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
Peace and justice for all.
Can anyone explain to me what was Hollande doing on the scene of terrorist attack an hour or two after it happened? While the attackers was still free and in unknown location.
How could the security personnel be so sure nobody will attempt to attack the President, so he is allowed to go there?
probably the safest place to be with all the police present…………
Not at all if in the attack there would be a second stage, like a car road bomb. Or a sniper.
Dear Saker,
you are wrong, god and true believers are more ridiculed by berserk gunmen and mindless preachers than by any jokes about these.
In another thread, Grieved said:
When the world resets its global currency agreements so that the US Dollar is simply one of several currencies in a basket of currencies […] – what will the US Dollar be worth domestically in the US? Will we have modest inflation, high inflation or hyper inflation?
[…] what will life be like for the people living here?
—
Grieved, a currency rate is the value of a currency in terms of other currencies, Inflation/deflation is decided by the price level of a basket of goods and services. Two very different concepts.
As for the causes of inflation, there are several. A weak currency. Changes in demand and supply. Indebted companies and rents going up. Higher taxes. The money supply is definitely important, but the US can break the rules. Low unemployment is believed to drive inflation, but I am not so sure that is always true. Take a look at the 1950s, for example. There is also hidden inflation. Same price of a good, but a smaller quantity and less quality. The queues in the old Sovjetunion are seen as hidden inflationary symptoms.
If I were you, I wouldn’t worry about the dollar rate, not yet. The dollar will lose its dominance eventually, but it will always be important, just like the British pound still is important. That being said, if China and some other exporting countries stop balancing their foreign trade, their excessive exports, by buying massive amounts of US bonds to invest paper money that would otherwise be useless in a drawer, then the dollar will fall. Alternative currencies can also hurt the dollar to some extent.
The dollar now gets stronger every day. One reason is China and Euroland want weaker currencies to help exporting companies. I am not an expert on currencies, but I suspect the US money power shows its teeth to protect the dollar in the new global environment.
A strong dollar is a powerful weapon. Around 1995, it was clear to me the strong dollar was a disaster for the global economy. We got cancerous speculation and foreign exporting companies think the books look good, but the truth is whole countries must work more to import less. A strong dollar transfers wealth to the US, but it is a longterm disaster for Americans, too. Colbert, minister of finance in France a long time ago, tried to keep French resources in the country and live off imports. It did not work. Many US exporting companies have left the US partly because of the strong dollar and Americans pay with their jobs and tax deficits. In the US, this is balanced by the modern financial sector so Americans also think the books look good. It is a mirage.
If the US wants to hurt challengers like China and Russia, it can simply default. I think that will inevitably happen. China is being had and the UK will also suffer.
I think Michal above got it about right. You are all free to say what you want. But you are not all paid for you efforts. If you wish to avoid the attention of the law of the land you will have to restrict what you say to within the legally defined boundaries as interpreted by the natinal judiciary. Nowadays all publishers need to consider the wider trans national or trans cultural consumers of their works and respond to the risks involved accordingly. I understand that English common law evolves by precedent. Maybe we are entering some cypto Darwinian arms race of ideas…
Well, Saker, where do I begin. An elementary rule of intellectual civility and integrity is not to comment about subjects, in that case France, you so obviously understand nothing about. A testimony to this is that your French supporters here cite the likes of Dieudonné, Alain Soral and Roger Faurisson, whom you seem to consider the pinnacle of French thought – the common thread being obsessive-compulsive Jew-hatred. In that case of the last two a psychopath and a fascist. In the past, I’ve seen you swoon over the pathetic Alain Soral, and Marine Le Pen whose party advised the Ukrainian fascists of Svoboda in 2010 on a “change of image”. Moreover, an old gripe I may as just as well vent now for this last comment on your blog, you never said a word about acts commited in Donetsk by pro-Russian forces, murdering and torturing 18-year old Ukrainian conscripts, as well as terrorizing and stealing the population you have smugly judged so often for their passivity – undeniable facts I have investigated and triple-checked with my Crimea-born, pro-Putin wife. Enough of that nonsense about the tough, brave, virtuous, last-beacon-of-christianity Russian freedom fighters. Those are war crimes. If you insist on giving lessons to the whole world, at least start by calling scum, scum, and reporting the whole truth.
Also, I found your railway analogies a bit interesting, as they are almost exactly what I heard once on a bus in Manhattan from a muslim fundamentalist who suddenly started threatening the passengers and raving about how Islam was going to crush the West like a bulldozer and it should therefore submit.Cabu, Wolinski and the others may have been atheists and sinners, but they called the devil when they saw it (a remnant in their souls of the old Christian country?). Although I don’t share their political, intellectual, and spiritual views, the men and women of Charlie Hebdo died as heroes. They also were as French as can possibly be. You could find their archetypes in French history from hundreds of years ago. If you don’t like France, don’t write about it. Don’t insult them, or don’t write about France.
And you seem to have a curious obsession with “gene pools” given the tragic history of Russia. Is the “gene pool” somehow purer, better in Russia now for those tragedies, in your view? Please clarify. You should really stop worrying about the victim’s genes, they were 100% better people and 100% more talented than the sinister hacks you seem to value so much.
In disgust,
goelette
Curiously, you accuse Saker of being obsessed with gene-pools and the best argument is the undisputed superiority of all French things/persons?
Look, this epic “French chauvinism” is well known here in Hego Euskal Herria. Nothing new under the sun. Maybe you can convince someone living a little further.
Let’s not forget that Saker’s main theme is how “disgusted and nauseated by the sick display of collective hypocrisy” he is. Neither Saker nor anyone else here is justifying the murders and violence.
Notwithstanding the ad hominem nature of your attack on Saker that avoids addressing any of the questions he has raised, I’ve got a few questions for you:
You dismiss the denial of free speech rights of the three individuals because of their “obsessive-compulsive Jew-hatred”, yet Islam-hatred seems to be OK for you. Why pointing this obvious contradiction requires some deep understanding of France? Because of its anti-semitic history? Well, the history of French terrorizing of Muslims isn’t any less rich!
“If you don’t like France, don’t write about it. Don’t insult them, or don’t write about France.” – you say. Yet, you reserve the French right to insult other’s religion?!
What is it that necessitates insulting one’s religion? What is the point of it? What is productive about it? What is there to be proud of? Racism? Hatred?
If there are undeniable facts you have investigated and triple-checked, perhaps you’d like to share? rather than cry someone else hasn’t mentioned them?
Perhaps also you could enlighten us on your thoughts about collective guilt.
Retaliation in an ‘information war’ is not the same thing as indiscriminate droning of civilian wedding parties or blowing up civilians in cafes etc.
A dozen people are dead, you fucking psychopath.
And how many thousants innocent children are dead in Arabic countries?
Where were you when the USA droned a wedding party in Yemen or When Netenyahu killed over !000 in Gaza. Go back to your ‘Europeans are the only people who count” little world and watch TV you small minded prick.
What makes you think I approve of drone killings? Just because the scale of the killings is greater or there is rampant hypocrisy in the outrage over these twelve dead but not over regular drone strikes doesn’t change the fact that a dozen innocent people are dead. Of course it’s clear some here don’t consider them innocent, and seem to view murder as a response to insult as perfectly justified. I’ll be careful to not say anything about anybodies sister if I’m ever at a party with one of you, since I’ll apparently get a shiv in the back in retaliation.
This whole affair has made it abundantly clear just how much of the Saker community actually cares about lives or justice. From this point forward I’ll be taking any outrage about Nazis or dead civilians in Donbass from this corner of the internet with a grain of salt.
They were not innocent as you put it! They were imperials who made their living on the suffering off others. Thats the meaning about imperialism, to take advantage of the less fortunate. Now they did not deserve death for that but they knew the risks and still decided to take it. And for outrage like your post, and from so many well.. How about some outrage for the innocent elsewhere..
Or maybe the point is to make you think your pain is more important than the pain of others because last year the Israel war in gaza was one of the few times so many other people felt any pain for others.. Cant have that now can we and this just made sure that wont happen any time soon.
They were innocent, and you’re insane.
Outrage is one of the hardest things to fake.
Charlie Hebdo Shootings Video http://youtu.be/yJEvlKKm6og?a
I have updated the article here and added your comment about the YouTube video to it.
Thanks.
A dozen White Europeans who apparently acted as if there are no conseqences to their actions. What happened to “personal responsibility” ?. Hate begets hate and they sure did their part.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
Peace and justice for all not just for the “exceptional’.
I occasionally look by this site, as a means of getting a broader view of the news. And I usually do not comment. But this article is just not right (and I won’t even comment on the fact that people have actually died).
If you conjecture that the Charlie Hebdo guys “had it coming” then you have to be also agreeable to the creation of the Ukrainian Ministery of Information (1984 Truth Ministery ?). Or where exactly do you draw the line on what someone can say and what not.
Starting to draw lines on freedom of speech, punishing dissenting voices, etc, is how every repressive (fascist, communist, …) regime has started.
And protecting freedom of speech means that you have to let even people you consider misguided, idiots, …, have a voice. Where is the difference between someone not publishing an anti-muslim opinion out of fear that he might be killed, or not not publishing an opinion out of fear that the gestapo, stasi, kgb, securitate, sbu (nsa?) might come after him.
This absolutely tragic event has nothing to do with the “Free speech”, but it has everything connected to the ridiculing certain religion and spread the hatred.
You have to find out who is non-stop ridiculing everyone who tells the truth. Very simple.
Peace to you.
“had it coming” does not mean it was right that they got killed. Look at the train story….Saker is saying they regularly slept on the train tracks…sooner or later a train was going to run over them. That kind of “had it coming” constantly running the risk., and running it knowingly.
” Where is the difference between someone not publishing an anti-muslim opinion out of fear that he might be killed, or not not publishing an opinion out of fear that the gestapo, stasi, kgb, securitate, sbu (nsa?) might come after him.” HUGE HUGE difference, In the first case he is killed by an individual (or some organisation) and there are always a few crazies around, can happen to anyone who attract their attention. They had threats before, so up to them how seriously to take them.
You cannot fear gestapo, stasi, kgb, securitate, sbu (nsa?) unless they EXIST, and these are GOVERNMENT organisations deliberately set up with the aim of suppressing dissent.
The difference is, does the government run instruments of oppression, or is the person fearing a private consequence? Really trivially, if a teenager is afraid to post stories of am argument with his mother, for fear she’ll ground him if she sees it….is that something to equate with oppression and loss of human rights? it’s all just a matter of degree. The law everywhere guarantees your safety only from the government. Well, promises it, not guarantees it.
,Do we SMELL something weird?
,Ahmed Merabet: Police Officer Executed In ‘Charlie Hebdo’ Terrorist Attack Was Muslim’
(inquisitr. com)
I bet we do!
Given that France recently promoted the idea of a Palestinian state, and given that these guys appear to be highly trained, and given that the ID of one of them was “conveniently” left in the van, and given that these guys were allegedly connected to a former French intelligence asset who allegedly defected to Al Qaeda, my immediate first thought was “false flag” operation.
Assume the alleged intelligence asset is connected to these guys. Assume that in fact he did not defect to Al Qaeda but was placed there by French intelligence. Assume that French intelligence wanted to stir up anti-Muslim hatred for their own agenda. It would be trivial to get this guy to set up the actual attackers, then leave their ID in the van to make sure they get identified and caught.
Israel could do the same thing, but in this case I suspect French intelligence first because the alleged connection to a French intelligence asset.
Read Sibel Edmonds fictional story, “Lone Gladio”, for information on this sort of “false flag” operation which has been going on for decades in Europe.
“If the war does not significantly change the world’s political map, the U.S. will not achieve its aim” [D. Rumsfeld]
The so-called ‘war on terror’ being waged by the U.S./NATO/Israel bloc has clear strategic objectives and involves employing the mechanism of war to achieve successive regime change actions. As part of these regime change operations, it is well known that this military bloc is engaged in proxy warfare operations (the support of militant groups such as employed in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Chechnya, etc.). This clearly establishes the hypocrisy and fraud of the so-called war on terror when the very states that claim to be fighting a ‘war on terror’ are at the same time involved in the support of militant/terrorist groups to achieve strategic objectives. But there is a more significant aspect to these developments.
It is no coincidence that the neoconservative doctrine of employing militarism to reshape the worlds map is also associated with Benjamin Netanyahu, who employed the terminology in the 1990’s in a book that advocated for the need for the ‘west’ to engage in a ‘war on terror’. Israel (in coordination with its assets within the U.S.) has played (and continues to play) a key role in agitating for successive wars it desires to be waged by its ‘allies’ (blood and treasure of other nations). Its assets within various states are active in this process.
But these successive wars against predominantly Muslim states is being interpreted by many groups/individuals as a war between civilisations (a war between ‘the West/an Anglo-Zionist bloc’ and Islam). If the belief by many Muslims that a war between civilisations gains broader traction, this will have profound implications for the U.S./NATO/Israel bloc. Indeed, they have already inadvertently opened a Pandora’s box they will be unable to close.
i am not Charlie and
i am very sad because of picture of women’s head. and i found it is something simbolic and frighening on picture. like she is smiling… he, the butcher, is also smiling. is that some omen? or mirror of our violent civilization where mankind will “enjoy” casting like in picture.
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i don’t agree here with Saker. they published caricatures about muslim extremist and their INTERPRETING of reading of Holy book and INTERPRETING prophet on their exclusive way. they are not ridicule Holy book or prophet. nothing is wrong with both. none can say that walking into some coffee shop in M.E. and activating explosive belt , killing bunch of noname people, is right. that is not happening in Europe or major part of the world. pointing to dumb, uneducated people that are doing wrong and behave uncivilized (whatever that means) by practicing violence because “Holy book say so”, is not spitting in somebody’s soul. soul cannot be offended, ego can. that is different. anyway they are offended by caricatures, but they are not by Obama’s drones that killed thousands of them. interesting religion from both side. i understand people cornered in some desperate part of the world that they cannot see exit of misery and hidding from drones like rats from cats and they just don’t know how to deal with problems. then is extremism born. i undersatnd that. but this in France is a bit different. France is not some third world remote country. France is one of cornerstone of Europe.
sorry for my bad english, hard for me to make a point.
“France is not some third world remote country. France is one of cornerstone of Europe.”
That is sort of “we are superior” supremacist thinking which the now dead hate propagandists at Charlie Hebdo engaged in.
i am not french. i don’t live in France. but , here in Europe, there is no reason for extremism to gain something, anything. or reason for desperate people to blow themselves in crowded area. or, to slit throaths of people because they are offending religion. it is not about supremacy or right wing view. it is about HARD facts that France is not perfect, but definitely is not Syria or Lybia. can we agree on that? honestly, how much you care offending butcher on picture with womans head?
Syria and Lybia were surprisingly working states before the French and friends thought it was a good idea to destroy them.
For exemple Syria had a 5% growth before the war, France can only dream of reaching that… not even 1%.
Lybia went from the poorest state in Africa to the Richest under khaddafi.
Yes, of course France is not Libya. But who made Libya into the mess that it is now? You and your kind. And what is so great about France or Europe, anyway? They were the first ones in human history to industrialize and then promptly used that advantage to pillage and colonize the world. “Barbarians” fight and kill when personal survival is at stake; Europe and France have committed genocide in the name of civilization. So how civilized are you really, Mr. European? .
“you and your kind” you can’t just point finger and sayng that. you don’t know anything about me or any other here. i don’t eat meat because of ethic reason and i don’t support violence of any kind against any living being on this planet. and i am not rasist or exceptional. i don’t need any holy book or any prophet to live my life. Lybia and Syria would not be possible to happen if were not enough number of bad people ready for violence. western countries just exploit that, like allways did for own goals. i did not saw profesors and doctors, philosophers, poets going into streets. breaking shops, turning down governments by force. useful idiots are allways ridiculed, but they don’t understand jokes allways and don’t react. i am civilized enough not to kill anyone or anything and i am proud of that. there was no white bearded wise old man entered Harbo and talking to people there, telling them, maybe is not wise to insult people and forgive them because they don’t know what are they doing. no, AK47 with love sent message. this is definitely not benign situation where one can remain bystander. sorry, but i am not sided with AK47 this time.
Sanjin January 09, 2015
You simply don’t get it, do you.
To Sanjin
Europe has been always the center of extremism. Today it is towards Russia for American interests.
Europe was battlefield for centuries. “marriage” between old colonial powers (who stil have wet dreams and stil don’t like each other) in EU teritory today are under American superintendence and it does not have to be bad thing. of course, US is blundering as allways making enemy everywhere and this time Paris pays the price. things are not as they look like in first sigh.
so, the only reason why system of justice exist is to prevent this what happened in Paris. someone is offended? there is a way to resolve that. civilized way. even hardcore criminals have proper treatment. 12+ people died because they asked for it- i can’t agree with that. extremism has not ratio or nationality or can be labeled right or wrong. it is simply degenerated human behavior.
i will stick with my friends saying; it is not normal, but for humans-it is natural.
Try to make a connection between the Norway,Spanish, London masacre and French masacre and you will find the answer
Doesn’t anybody else find it SICKENING that it is MSM whining about people being killed in Paris, and yet when it comes to THOUSANDS of Donbas civilians being murdered by the neo-nazi satanic scum in Ukraine, they remain silent???!!! In fact it is far worse than that: for instance, in the British daily mail newspaper, I can’t remember seeing any reports with graphic photos of murdered civilians, and, comments pointing out the truth of what is happening in the Donbas are often CENSORED/NOT PUBLISHED!
The Daily Mail and Charlie Hebdo are both racists newspapers.
Putin Is Bringing Darkness to the Edge of Europe.
O_O
What?!
Did he ‘liberate’ Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq single-handily?
As to France; how about the woman who let the alleged gunmen in [and who was not shot]?
How come 3 masked men are identified in no time?
All those ‘terror’ organizations really want everybody to hate them, don’t they?
Haha,, that anti-Putin article was written by Yulia Tymoshenko, former Ukrainian Prime Minister, former “gas princess” until recently in jail for large-scale corruption on gas purchases…. can’t really expect her to be on Russia’s side.
Sadly for her she did’t even manage to win a seat at the last elections.
I am definitely not Charlie, mostly because it illustrates the infantilisation to the level of imbecility of a society that I used to love and admire, la vieille France, the France of the cathedrals, la France des idées claires et distinctes, la France du bon goût et du style.
All replaced by caricatures in all walks of life. It is the war of the Lefties against that France. On 26 April 1996, François Cavanna, Stéphane Charbonnier and Philippe Val filed 173,704 signatures, obtained in 8 months, with the aim of banning the political party Front National, since it would have contravened the articles 1, 2, 4, 6 and 7 of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.
Nobody found anything reprovable in the anti-Catholic, anti-Christian stance of the rag.
It is amusing that the initial name of the magazine was Hara-Kiri, Hara-Kiri Hebdo, L’Hebdo Hara-Kiri. Premonition? Professed admiration for Islam (the “religion of peace” as opposed to the sadistic Christians – Inquisition!) is part and parcel of the Leftist-atheist (Jewish) “philosophy” of professed Voltairians (Écrasez l’Infâme). They came to believe, like those children who believed that the bear at the Zoo is like the ones in the cartoon, only to be mauled when they tried to cuddle them, that Islam is indeed like their imagination.
We have no reaon to believe that the shooters have been correctly identified. I personally think French intell did it & they are patsies. We have heard no more about the one who gave himself up. There was one internet report that he is a high school kid & his classmates said he was in class at the time. Of course the report may be a scam.
The evidence is overwhelming that the Boston Marathon “bombing” was a phoney flag that hurt no one, and that the two “perpetrators” were patsies. So why not here, too?
The very fact that the French shooters were allowed to get away is persuasive that thei true shooters will be switched. I wouldn’t be surprised if the brothers were in custody the whole time.
I found the moralistic, self-righteous posturing by the French authorities truly nauseating. If it were within my power to send them to Syria I would.
No one was hurt in Boston?
You have a real cognitive perceptual problem. Like blind, deaf and intensely stupid.
5 dead, blown to pieces. 264 persons injured on the scene. Many 16 amputees, 3 multiple limbs lost. Later, 16 police injured in gunfights with the non-existent (according to you) perpetrators.
The toll was equal to a bad day in any current war zone on the planet.
Go get your brain checked, Penelope. Better yet, don’t post comments without permission from the psychiatrist handling your case. It perpetuates your issues with reality.
AND YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE ?
First hand knowledge, I suppose. You heard , saw ,smelt, and touched it all.
Thought not. The one thing I know is The Beast has it’s agenda and cares nothing about you or me.
“many thousands people worldwide say “I am Charlie”, sob, light candles and take a “courageous” stance for freedom of speech.”
And they all forget that France has some humorist prosecuted, people in jail for their books, and bloggers fined for their ideas…
I read Charlie a few times as my father bought it once in a while, it was not even funny. cartoons were crass, ugly and downright offensive without any limit.
I can only think of those poor policemen dead protecting a paper that was constantly shitting on cops… True Heroes of the day.
Saker, you have sinned to say that Charlie asked for this and hence by implication deserved it. There is nothing politically correct or remotely moral about this sentiment. You need to ask your God for forgiveness. You have sanctioned murder.
benign
This is an absurd comment. Saker foreshadowed the very event with his previous remarks concluding the reality of the danger these people (Charlie) were putting themselves in. When you go hunting dressed as a deer, you’re likely to get shot. Those who defamed another peoples culture and religion were putting themselves at risk simply by the crudeness of their behaviour and the responses they provided the Muslim faithful, and now the world should mourn their arrogance?
One need not justify an act to see the reality of the situation; these victims of violence were perpetuating in the most grossly blatant manner a war on the people of the Muslim faith, they were unarmed with lead or gunpowder, but wielded the mighty pen, whose power though unrecognised, parallels that of almost any other weapon when provided a global format. Charlie started something very dangerous, and they were very naive to think it would not result in deadly confrontation. These victims of violence paid with their lives for the anger they instigated in the world around them, no justification, but rather understanding. Understanding of the context, understanding of the underlying conflict, and a recognition of the likely result. It would be called using reason, and logic, applying basic objective observation to see reality.
If someone insults my God, and the Lord himself knows well the afflictions, I turn away from them, and focus myself elsewhere, but I also watch after those who hate, for hate creates the tides of war. You see, I feel no need to disrespect any other peoples belief, none whatsoever. I have the highest respect for culture, and diversity. Why is it that some feel the need to stoke hate, and ignorance? And those who stoke the flames of hate, are they not calling forth the wrath of others? What was the intended outcome? Was it not conflict? Despite the fact that ‘Charlie’ was using soft power, their desire to keep their battle soft went badly wrong when hard reality came crashing in.
– if you do not like what a news organisation is publishing, don’t read or pay for their product. Vote with your wallet, not with your gun.
– both the saker and Charlie Hebdo are news orgs. The difference between the two is that Charlie Hebdo had the balls to stand by their opinion by having an office with a real address and publishing the name of their editor and employees, whereas the saker hides in comforting anonymity behind a website and PO box. Svoboda got 5% of the vote; assume 40 mill Ukrainians, and 50% voter turnout, and that brings you to about 1 mill people who are anything but fans of this website/editor. Not 1.6 billion Muslims, but, hey, if he thinks that Charlie “had it coming” for doing something they believe in, why doesn’t he publish his name and address, or, even better, open an office in kiev.
You bloody can’t have it both ways. Either you believe in freedom of speech, or you don’t. You don’t get to pick and choose when it is convenient. From this point of view, this blog just proves at best short-sightedness, at worst narrow-mindedness. The moment you rationalize and accept that someone “has it coming”, and that it is ok to settle it at gunpoint, start writing your own epitaph, because sure as hell there are going to be people who don’t like what you are doing.
@groebner
An observation based in reality – There are religious fanatics, those within Islam can be quite willing to die for their cause. Charlie antagonized these people with their material, thus they were putting themselves in danger (“asking for it”). If I start poking cobras I’m likely to get bitten, it’s rather basic really, all this moralizing is secondary and without context. Is it right that these people were killed the way they were? It does not matter in the end, it happened, and the outcome had a high probability from the outset. Saker takes risks just as any other media publisher takes risks, or anyone who comments on anything, the world is not all peaches and cream. We are dealing with probabilities, which actions carry the highest probability of ending in violence.
groebner
My opinion : Do as you please , but don’t bitch and cry when some offended person acts upon a real or imagined insult. At least own your actions and don’t hide behind “Free Speech”.
You can’t have it both ways.
Martyr complex , perhaps?
Saker: Your common-sense IQ, ‘see-through-facades IQ’, bullshit-detection IQ, and of course your general IQ are amazing! In an age when no one has the sense left to see that the emperor is naked, or the guts to call that out, you have maintained the keenest possible perception and acuity.
Of course, violence is bad; and of course murderous assassinations are to be deplored. But it is sickening, simply sickening, the double standards displayed by the west. Half-a-million Iraqi children killed doesn’t matter; countries bombed and destroyed don’t matter; mass surveillance and thought policing doesn’t matter; but the freedom of a cartoonist to indulge in hate speech is held up as a supreme triumph of the west, of its glorious achievement! And when some among the wretched, dispossessed, destroyed, abused, and slandered Muslims rise up in wicked and murderous rage, that of course again goes to show how much more civilised the west is.
And shame on RT! It is treating this as a bigger tragedy than the tragedy in Ukraine.
All roads lead to Rome, so if a handful of paid skanks shove crucifixes up their asses in St. Peter’s Square, it’s all part of the game. Nobody goes around deliberately offending religious believers unless they are put up to it. Charlie Hebdo is satire? It’s not funny or witty in English, and it’s not even witty in the original French, so it’s all a fake. Nobody does satire better than the French when they really want to, just read Diderot. This whole thing is a fraud. And Saker is right about the French authorities, whether they are the Foreign Legion or the local police, you can’t mess with them if they don’t want to be messed with. Just watch the movie “Battle of Algiers.” When they want to take care of business, they take care of business.
Educated Muslims know when they are being provoked, and they won’t respond to every stupidity like their more knee-jerk extremist brethren do, but they are very very patient. The Iranians know what’s going on here. They will probably seek their revenge some day, but they will plan it out intelligently. All in good time.
Superficial rundown of the last several FF attacks, now happening closer one after one another.
that alone tells u something.
just think back to dec 14/2012 sandy hoax, then Apr/2013, the bawston bawmer, then rapidly we’ve seen that sydney coffee shop caper, then canada, now this.
oops, forgot the recent pak FF where noah pozner is clearly claimed to have dieded a world record second time.
far better analysis detail of the grosser errors and facile production hoax of the france one is at jimstonefreelance up past 2 days, & if u can stand listening to him, alex jones has a vid out utube also shows how hoaky a fraud this latest one is.
http://www.zengardner.com/charlie-magazine-murders-clear-evidence-of-gladio-style-staging/
Hi saker, wow, what a lot of comments. Is there an easy way to get to the end of the comment section or is it just scroll down ?
Fantastic piece of writing again Saker, I hope this article of yours goes viral. God bless !!
Hi Saker, sorry I’m not easily transferring over to new site…question…when I tried to reply to a comment, my old comment was still there and in the way of me making a new one to someone else, on a different article
Thanks for your great article…very interesting and wonderful that you stick up for all Muslims worldwide.
We are kindred souls on many matters, Saker.
I agree with you that freedom of speech does not give license to desecrate others’ people’s beliefs.
Freedom of speech is meant for responsible people by responsible people, insulting others’ feelings is hooliganism, not journalism, and indeed these guys had it coming.
Hi, is there any way to get to the comment box, ‘to post a comment’ without going down the whole line ?
OT. the news outlet, RT sure doesn’t put much news about the Kremlin or Russia. Its the same as last week. Too bad.
ok, I see that the comment box is at the end of page 1 and that the most recent comments are on page 1…is that right ?
No it is NOT!!!
I guess I understand. Someone is screening the comments before posting, to screen out the machines and the ringers. Good.
Hi Saker ! Finally got through all the comments, although I realize now I don’t have to go to the end to post one myself….actually this is a nice set up, with the three pages.
As far as Charlie, of course I agree with you. Not because I’m mindless, but you always seem to say what’s the correct view of the vineyard. Amazing.
I hope you had a fulfilling Orthodox celebrations….church ? 12 hours ?? I have a fantastic book called “The Green Snake” which is the autobiography of Margariet Voloshin…superbly written about her life in Russia, during the time of WW1….so I know a little about Russian Church. 12 hours of standing up and then walking around ???
I wish I had gone to the Greek Orthodox church that was so beautiful in my home town…I just didn’t really feel a strong kinship with Greeks, so I never went there….too bad because I might not have come back out….become a monk or something….a female one of course.
Anyway, I see that your Charlie article is #1 over at ICH…right at the top….good.
Seems to me that the clergy of these religions need to excommunicate all fundamentalists who advocate murder,
I’m pretty much in agreement w/ Saker. And why set yourself up for retribution?
I’m in a personal situation that no way I would publicly defame my tormentor for fear of retaliation.
I’ve looked at the video several times, and to me it looks like the gunman missed the cop’s head altogether.
If anybody knows how to convert the video to avi or another format, I’d like to look at it frame by frame, and then make a determination.
Would you be surprised that “George Wolinski’s (who was one of the original contributors to Hara-Kiri’s weekly counterpart, Hara-Kiri-Hebdo, from 1969… renamed Charlie Hebdo where Wolinski served as editor-in-chief from 1970 until 1981. In 1977, Wolinski became an editorial cartoonist of the Communist daily L’Humanité. Wolinski’s drawings can additionally be found in the daily Libération, the weekly Paris-Match and L’Écho des Savanes) parents Lola Bembaron and Siegfried Wolinski, were Jewish? Only the parents, voyons.
The cherry on the cake is that in 2005 he was awarded the Legion of Honour.
Would you be surprised that “George Wolinski’s (who was one of the original contributors to Hara-Kiri’s weekly counterpart, Hara-Kiri-Hebdo, from 1969… renamed Charlie Hebdo where Wolinski served as editor-in-chief from 1970 until 1981… in 1977, Wolinski became an editorial cartoonist of the Communist daily L’Humanité. Wolinski’s drawings can additionally be found in the daily Libération, the weekly Paris-Match and L’Écho des Savanes) parents Lola Bembaron and Siegfried Wolinski, were Jewish?” Only the parents, that is.
The cherry on the cake is that in 2005 he was awarded the Legion of Honour!
Another comment to NYTimes
Surprise! Surprise! Insulting speech might have unpleasant consequences! These selfless martyrs have paid with their very lives to demonstrate this elusive truth. It is up to us to demonstrate that they have not died in vain.
I AM CHARLIEEEEEEEE!!!
Where is my fucking COMMENT?!! This is fucking AWFUL!!!
I don’t know? Maybe it’s hiding under your bed? ;D
page 3 dude
Paul can you clean up your language please.
I would agree with Ann in this case.
Saker’s response is remarkably similar to that of Anjem Choudary:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3976707999001/radical-imam-anjem-choudary-on-charlie-hebdo-attack/?#sp=show-clips
It was pure folly of Western elites to believe that inside every third world immigrant admitted to the West is someone aspiring to be another white European gentile living and respecting the values and traditions of the West. It was foolish to facilitate the demographic displacement of European descended gentiles in the nations that they built by third world peoples who hate them.
Of course the obvious conclusion is that the likes Choudary have no place in the West and should be promptly repatriated to the lands from whence they came.
Bourgeois Reactionary
I think you are a bigot.
Who is the west, and how do you define who is somebody the west and since when?
For you Buffalo Bill is the “west” but not Nikola Tesla or Tolstoy.
For you Germany is the “west” even during Hitler but not Russia today during Putin.
For you Britain is the “west” even when she conquered India, South Africa…
For you America is the “west” even then when she made plan to attack Britain, see
“Produced in 1930 and called Joint Plan Red, the document set out strategies for invading Canada BBC”
For you the “west” is Poland now when is an American vassal but was not when she was not in the Anglo-Zionist orbit.
“For you Buffalo Bill is the “west” but not Nikola Tesla or Tolstoy.
For you Germany is the “west” even during Hitler but not Russia today during Putin.
For you Britain is the “west” even when she conquered India, South Africa…
For you America is the “west” even then when she made plan to attack Britain, see
Wrong. Unlike Saker I think Russia is part of the West. The same is true of all the Christian Slavs.
E. Ukraine approacking humanitarian catastrophe. http://rt.com/news/221019-ukraine-humanitarian-catastrophe-amnesty/
Webster Tarpley’s World Crisis Radio of Jan 3 worth listening to:
Belarus has been under US sanctions for 20 years cuz Lukashenko refused to open it up to looting by the West, kept the state enterprises, etc. He’s immensely popular among the citizenry, was an anti-corruption whistleblower before coming to power.
This edition of World Crisis Radio is about his steps to fight back against the IMF: >currency controls<, etc. Also Russia's half-way currency controls– yes steps are being taken. oops, sorry, my link didn't work. Just search World Crisis Radio, scroll down to below where he's already highlighted Jan 3 for you and click download.
I am so glad you have reinforced EXACTLY what I was thinking and so wanted to express out loud.
If this is a false flag, the empire of chaos wins.
If this is a muslim protest, the empire of chaos wins.
If the empire of chaos wins, the peaceful order loses.
But chaos and order are relatives.
“He won the war after losing every battle.” (Dylan)
“If you take the high ground and the low ground, the middle ground will soon be yours.” (Anon)
Stirring up a hornet’s nest is like opening a can of rattlers.
Sakers go where angels fear to tread.
200 comments here already and 130+ at ICH (same article).
Something is blowing in the wind. Wish I knew what it was.
I ain’t reading 280 comments but I am guessing most are in favour of your point of view.Your summary of events in France is “right on” The mainstream media is disgusting as are the deceptions of the French security apparatus, the Washington power structure and their lackeys.
Religions of all stripes spawn fundamentalist wackjobs that are fodder for manipulation by European-American state terrorists (aka intelligence agencies).
This attack on Charlie Hebdo is like the Australian and Canadian attacks/blacks ops last year (not to mention America’s 9-11 attack and Boston bombings and the British tube bombing in 2005): Operation Gladio redux.
Western terrorism is pervasive and should also be Suspect number 1 in any terror attack.
Behind the battle for free speech is hidden propaganda and inciting hatred because always will prevail “free speech” of those who have more money.
[ We see it today in case of Russia.
Every single article from so called western media is just trolling and propaganda ].
The situation is today or in the last hundred years such that the dice is loaded in Anglo-American favour.
Once [ or if ] the situation changes, Anglo-American will change the rules of the game.
I have mixed feelings about this post. It is late so I will be brief:
“I would even argue that that this is how Charlie Hebdo made it’s money”
– Charlie Hebdo cartoonists did not make any money, and the magazine was barely surviving. They were old-age hipsters still living the 1968 dream, because they actually loved their job.
“Offend any group as large as 1.6 billion”
– They made fun of Takfiris, Wahabbis and other ISIS wingnuts, and rightly so. Never made fun of African, Turkish and other moderate Muslims living next door. Saying 1.6 billion people were offended is a gross exageration. By the way, nobody ever was forced to buy their magazine.
“cui bono clearly indicates that the French regime either organized it all, or let it happen or, at the very least, makes maximal political use of it all.”
– This may be true, unfortunately, but that strategy will blow back at François Hollande. I feel the “Internet citizens movement” is now uncontrollable. Génération Identitaire, E&R, Pegida (in Germany) will keep rising and the popularity of the Socialists will keep dwindling. The old left/wing divide is toast. What we have now is people clinging to the old system, and people who don’t buy MSM crap anymore.
NATO supports terrorism in Russia.
France is a member of NATO.
France supports terrorism in Russia..
What do the French want?
Dorogoi Saker,
My previous comment was pragmatic; I’m no respecter of religion, and this is why:
When I was in the Soviet Union in 1988, visiting several Orthodox churches, I was actually shoved out of the way by devout orthodox ladies as I was carrying my votive candle up the stairs.
This behavior is by no means peculiar to the Russian Orthodox Church; this is typical of religion in general.
Rudeness is not a matter of religion. People will push past you at sales and train stations and coffee shops too. It’s just rudeness or lack of concern for others.
Yes, that’s true, but you’d think that Christians would behave a bit more Christ-like, especially in a house of God.
Fatal shooting at Charlie Hebdo HQ in Paris LIVE UPDATES
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“22:32 GMT:
Guardian Media Group has pledged £100,000 (US$151,000) to help sustain the attacked satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, according to the media group’s editor, Alan Rusbridger.
Meanwhile, the Google-backed Digital Press Fund said some €250,000 ($296,000) has been earmarked to support the French publication.”
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The Guardian and zoogle zionazis wanting to keep hate alive. Yeah, real surprise that. Funny how these hate outfits, like Charlie Hebdo, usually turn out to be zionist population manipulation fronts.
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‘Who’d dare publish now?’ Swedish cartoonist’s concerns after Paris attack
This cowardly zionazi’s fear brings up something I don’t think I’ve seen mentioned yet. These hate mongers have been operating from a place of what they thought was absolute safety. Now it’s obvious that security is an illusion. As these propagandists are all cowards who rely upon that illusion to be “brave”, they are in quite a state now. And that applies whether the attack was a false flag or not, but especially if it was a false flag. The zionist hate monger’s dilemma is straight forward if the attack was not a false flag and the “authorities” were genuinely unprepared. “Will they be unprepared in my case, too?”
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But what if it was a false flag, or the “authorities” had orders to stand aside and let it happen? If one were a zionazi tool, steadfastly working to help the Israeli vaterland, and saw how expendable other Israeli tools were, being simply sacrificed like this, how would one feel about their own chances of “being next” when the “necessity” arrived? Remember, these sods are total cowards, and I don’t think the idea of being sacrificed for the “greater good” of “greater” Israel was part of the “job description” when they signed on, expecting riches, fame and an unlimited supply of young boys, all relatively tax free, too. I imagine many Israeli hate propaganda tools in the media, formerly encased in their cocoons of imagined untouchability, and now seeing their potential expendability to “the zio-cause”, are thinking exactly along those lines.
“But what if it was a false flag, or the “authorities” had orders to stand aside and let it happen? If one were a zionazi tool, steadfastly working to help the Israeli vaterland, and saw how expendable other Israeli tools were, being simply sacrificed like this, how would one feel about their own chances of “being next” when the “necessity” arrived? Remember, these sods are total cowards, and I don’t think the idea of being sacrificed for the “greater good” of “greater” Israel was part of the “job description” when they signed on, expecting riches, fame and an unlimited supply of young boys, all relatively tax free, too. I imagine many Israeli hate propaganda tools in the media, formerly encased in their cocoons of imagined untouchability, and now seeing their potential expendability to “the zio-cause”, are thinking exactly along those lines.”
Panic is striking the rats on the sinking ship. I fully agree. Tools are getting scared.
It is very dangerous to be a collaborator of the Empire now. They are reaching the point when even with sanctions and bombings it will be less damaging to people and country’s just to oppose them. Empire does not know the term ally. Only assets, and they are expendable. Since the tides are turning more need to be sacrificed. And they wonder,rightfully, who is next? It will be interesting to watch them whine,grovel,cry injustice in the coming time.
“Charlie Hebdo” and Donbass – western MSM point of view: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B62I7q4IgAAI-Rr.jpg
(Placard on the left reads “I am Charlie”, “Freedom of speech”, nameboard on the right reads “Donbass”)
P.S. Saker, please return “Preview” button for comments
Sorry, a “Preview” feature for comments is currently not possible.
It’s true that deliberately provocative and hurtful talk will eventually provoke a response. Sticks and stones may break bones and words will never hurt you, but a taunt has got to be an innate part of human behaviour and a key tool of the provocateur. Civilisation is but a veneer in this instance.
A key tool of our money printing masters is the Hegelian Dialectic. This extends to controlling, maniipulating and influencing both protagonists. We already know from the whistleblowing journalist that the CIA (et al) control the media, including the disinformation side (eg. Alex Jones and the Daily Bell) and the funding of trolls to confuse deflect and discredit.
My view is that this is Psy-ops, it’s been planned at some level and both sides have been brought together, how the killers were made to do it (whether patsies, indoctrinated and therefore self motivated, or as straight out mercenaries) is not really relevant, because this is their specialty, evil bastards, it’s another take on the Benghazi/youtube video (that no one looked at/like this magazine had a minimal circulation and most in the world had never heard of it).
Meanwhile we all get subjected to greater scrutiny, more terror plats are exposed, and ultimately we are to be drawn into the “if you aren’t with us you are against us” conundrum, in a call to unite against the muslim terrorists (and likewise for those on the other side).
Again very sober, simple and very clear down to earth Saker’s analysis. I’m not a Muslim and it is very simple to see “Why”?????? only Muslim’s religion is presented around the world as a most evil religion? Of course exemption are the Wahabies,which are trained to be porteyd as really inhuman fanatic killers to create the picture that this religion is truly barbaric.
I personaly know many Muslim people and I can confirm that all of them are totaly shocked by these actions.
I have absolutely same feeling as Saker desrcibed and my intuition is telling me that this action was very carefully orchestrated. We don’t have a proof,but all of the signs are extremely visible……
-9/11 everything is burning, rubles are still in a very high heat and suddenly they have found the untouched passport of one of the terorists and of course immediatelly at the same evening they knew all of the names of the terorists…..
– Boston bombing, same story at the evening – no investigation yet, but they already knew who did the bombing even the evidence is clearly said something else
-Airplain MH17 crash, immediatelly all of the media knew that it was Putin and Russia even no investigation took place yet. Front pages are anouncing that the Hitler type Putin is guilty, because he didi it. Today we know that the compiled evidence,witness testimony, satelite prove and refusal to give to the public what they have discovered on the black box is totaly ignored.
Everywhere are just a Muslims posted as the devils plan! Why again just a Muslims?????
-London transit bombing, Spain train bombing everywhere just a Muslims are the perpetrators. Obviously it is explained that they hate us! What else we are the monsters all of us in the West, are we?
Well, I’m not an army analyst or any similars occupation I’m just trying to put together the puzle. In every “extremely right wing” German websites are calling for the next huge demonstration in Dresden for tomorrow / Friday jan 09/2015 /.
Then Us/Canada is bombing the Arabic countries non-stop, people are became refugies in Europe because they have nowhere to escape closer and we are finaly getting the picture. Ukraine war is going nowhere, then let’s start a fire in Europe on the religion base hate very well known script from the history divide and conquer. It is starting to be a very clear print and confirmation as it was mentioned here on this blog that the footprint is same, even we like it or not!
Wake up humanity!
Pepe Escobar has an article on the “Charlie” event which is good too. (atimes.com).
Interestingly Der Spiegel, Jakob Augstein has an editorial stating that the Europeans should re-act more intelligently than the Americans on 9/11. The Europeans have to show that they are different. That terrorism needs a fight of words (assume dialogue) and not NATO.
Nobody yet, in Europe, understands that terrorism is a ‘boomerang’. If you seed or support terrorism in Palestine, Syria, Libya, Iraq and Ukraine, it eventually comes home.
In a small town where I live our local editor made a comment recently in an editorial about the terrorist attack in Ottawa being tragic. What is tragic is the editorial “Bombings Will Have Lasting Impact”. How simplistic for an editor serving a community of 90, 000 people to see this tragedy in terms of our inability to attend sporting events. Maybe the editorial should have looked at the real tragedy that is overtaking this nation that once was a beacon that guided millions to freedom from tyranny.
When the leaders of a nation (in this case, the USA) continually espouse anger, hate, vengeance, and a willingness to viciously attack and kill others while imposing their will…wherever, whenever, throughout the world (and that is, the real America, if you know anything about history over the last 100 years; they are the world’s constant terrorists)…Is it any wonder that many of the country’s citizens are hostile and violent, to each other, and often to their own leadership? Regardless of who’s responsible in this situation, America will continue to create its own internal violent issues. It’s inevitable.
America creates its own ‘nutbars’. That happens because of what the political leadership sell as populous propaganda and contrives to offer the masses as ‘feel good shit’ rather than real support. Their internal economic/political situation offers most no status or import…so 50% don’t vote, in the sacred democracy.
If you don’t value your own citizenry, or the citizenry in other nations they become hostile. Killing innocent civilians is one of the main things which increases terrorism. Going to war against states that do not pose a threat to our security simply ask for retaliation from the terrorized. Specifically, killing women, children and families in these countries is the major cause of terrorism. The Media likes to spin it as they don’t like us because they are envious of our lifestyle is so simplistic that it insults even the most idiotic.
Foreign occupation, drone attacks and the root is our and American occupation of foreign lands. “We have to look at the root causes,” Justin Trudeau the new Liberal leader, who has a long way to go to speak like his father said. “Now, we don’t know now if it was terrorism or a single crazy or a domestic issue or a foreign issue.
“But there is no question that this happened because there is someone who feels completely excluded. Completely at war with innocents. At war with a society. And our approach has to be, where do those tensions come from?”
The idiot Harper who just had a hug fest with the Nazis in Kiev, was Bush’s shoeshine boy and now Obama’s butler slammed Trudeau for this. He said “”You condemn it categorically, and to the extent you can deal with the perpetrators, you deal with them as harshly as possible.” Of course you condemn it but the idiot does not see that it is policies like his that are the cause of it.
The cause is not “Islamic Terrorism” . It may originate in Islamic nations but all evidence indicates that 95% of terrorism is a response to foreign occupation. The occupier is USA and the terrorist acts are mostly against this occupier. Since 1980 there has been some 2200 terrorist attacks world wide and 90% of these attacks are against USA and in almost every case the attacks come from the occupied nation. Torture increases the risk of terrorism as does detention without trial. These act are responsible for young men from occupied nations strapping TNT and blowing themselves up.
Strange as it seems we/USA have financed the Al Qaeda to do our dirty work in Kosovo, Bosnia, Iraq during the Iraq/Iran war and so on. Now these home trained terrorists are using the tactics against us that they once used against our adversaries.
The real tragedy is that we don’t prosecute George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and their NATO partners for regime change, occupation and torture because only this will discourage future war lovers from following in their bloody footsteps.
The point is my friends that those in leadership positions of religions through silence countenance the evil. So what defense has a true believer whose religion has advocates among them with bloody hands? The disease of hate ought be exorcised by right teaching. The ultimate purpose of religion is to restore our incompleteness. To bring the Kingdom within out. Yet what Christian knowing the blood of the past and present would happily admit membership. Better to do than say. As for the Muslims. The good among them suffer the same. This serves the souless ones who rule.
In every war we can expect some war crimes — some more or less random, and some flowing from policy. This was a war crime. It is not excusing a war crime, however, to acknowledge who started the war and thus bears primary responsibility — and it was not the Muslims. The announcement by the gunmen (according to the line of think that it actually was Muslim terrorists) that they were from Al Qaeda is itself an indictment of the US since AQ was created by the CIA, as part of the aggressive imperialist war on the world by the US led empire, with plenty of help from the European elite and their minions.
If killing people for speaking offensively is wrong, how much more wrong to kill greatly more people for living in their own country which happens to have territory or resources the empire wants, or wanting to live in their own way without being under the empire’s thumb? This chain of events and blame can spread along the the way but the main path leads directly to the fascists, banksters, oil and war industries, and so on, of the US and Europe. And if one goes by the false flag line of thinking, then all the more so.
P.S. — note that the US prosecuted Nazi propagandists as war criminals during the Nuremberg trials, and they were not excused as being guilty of only ‘free speech’.
Here’s a link to the Timeline of the Paris attack.
Might note that it happened. It isn’t an imaginary event.
Notice when the shootings outside took place.
Notice when the rooftop cameras started recording, by whom and when.
Notice that nothing is a fake, phony, false anything.
Real people,12, really got shot and killed and 11 got really wounded.
The shooters were not stooges. They were trained shooters.
The victims were tragic ignoramuses who stuck their heads inside the zoo cage, stuck out their tongues at the beasts.
The animals killed them.
Vive Liberte!
http://experience.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/08/timeline-paris-attack-charlie-hebdo-gunmen-terrorists/21434099/
Terror Kills 12 Human Beings
Saker, maybe you should have “comments” as an option at the top of the home page. ?
That new addiiton of Special interest or whatever right at the top is great Saker, because you have done so much and written so much and your team has translated so much that has kind of disappeared into the back pages, and this will bring it up into the light again.
Very interesting news:
@http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/07/charlie-hebdo-terrorists-abandon-escape-car-outside-kosher-restaurant-in-paris/
@http://jssnews.com/2015/01/07/photos-exclusives-jssnews-les-terroristes-de-charlie-hebdo-ont-abandonne-leur-voiture-devant-un-restaurant-casher
Purement par hasard?
Paris Shooters Just Returned from NATO’s Proxy War in Syria
“Shooters were radicalized in Europe, sent to Syria, returned, have been previously arrested by Western security agencies for terrorism and long on the watch-list of French and other Western intelligence agencies. Yet “somehow” they still managed to execute a highly organized attack in the heart of Europe…”
Trained by Mossad, or it’s CIA boitois, then brought back to France to do their off the shelf wet work. Gee, what a surprise.
“Attackers” dead now. In Germany there is historical example: Attack on Sender Gleiwitz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident
In the evening the attackers (disguised inmates of KZ) were dead.