by Nikolai Starikov
translated by “KA”
source: http://nstarikov.ru/blog/50889
The coup in Ukraine, which the West shamefully calls “the transfer of power” and the victorious “opposition” calls “the revolution of dignity” took place over a year ago. Not so much time has passed since then but that time has been filled to the brim with torrents of horrific information. The territory of Ukraine has not known so much blood, violence, suffering and death since the moment of her liberation from the fascists in the course of the Great Patriotic War.
Against the background of all of this the Russian liberals and Ukrainian journalist continue to affirm one and the same mantra: there is no fascism in Ukraine and the new power is completely legitimate and in no way resembles a junta.
Denial of the obvious is one of the identifying marks of liberalism. All liberal reforms, whether in Ukraine, Russia or some other country are clear proof of this. They are carried out for “prosperity” and “development” but end with a fall in the standard of living and the closure of businesses. Meanwhile the liberals continue to proclaim that everything is fine and this is how it is supposed to be. Likewise today the fascist character of the state next to our border, which was created with the active help of the US after the coup in Kiev, is denied.
What is fascism? What are its main features? It is a dictatorship aimed at the establishment of power of one political force, which always relies on coercion, always stops any discussion and completely controls the information space. At the same time fascists are speedily isolating their opponents. Firstly they isolate them from public policy and then they are literally isolating them in concentration camps and prison. This is the exact same road taken by Hitler’s Nazis, Mussolini’s Blackshirts and even Franco’s Falangists. In Germany first the Communist Party was banned, then all parties other than the Nazi party, then, soon after that, the racist Nuremberg laws were introduced. In Italy almost 10 years previously the Ministry of Press and Propaganda, with Dino Alfieri as its head, was created and started actively closing down opposition media. Only a member of the fascist trade union, a union of journalists with party cards, could become chief editor of a newspaper, and other restrictions were introduced on the profession for undesirable citizens. In Spain masses of people were sent to prison and around 200.000 Spaniards were executed.
Identical methods were used to combat dissent in the Latin American juntas – beginning with Pinochet and finishing with his “counterparts” in Argentina, Paraguay and El Salvador. Arrests, torture and disappearances. Death squads eliminating undesirables. Closure of newspapers, overcrowded prisons – the style of the putschists of the Latin American juntas is surprisingly reminiscent of the style of the fascist regimes of Europe. This happened because after their defeat in the war the Nazi criminals made a timely escape to Latin America. And – to North America, that is to the US and Canada, where after the Second World War the Anglo-Saxons took a lot of former Banderists. While Vlasovists and Cossacks were handed over to the USSR, all non-Russian SS men were carefully rescued. Some were sent overseas and some, like the Latvians – to London.
Today in Ukraine we see the exact same picture. A multi-party system exists in Ukraine, but this multi-party system is only a fig leaf. There is in fact no opposition. There is no media reflecting an alternate point of view. At the slightest excuse – gunmen attack newspaper and television channel offices, which dare to show the wrong report or programme. Attacks on people who for whatever reason fall foul of the fascists have been carried out recently under the guise of “lustration”, that is bullying and beatings, which have now taken the form of murder. The arrest of dissenters takes place under the guise of the detention of “supporters of terrorists”, but this doesn’t change the meaning of what has happened. It is worth recalling that in Nazi Germany it also all took place “strictly according to the law” and to this end such a law was adopted on 28th Februar 1933: it was called “for the Protection of People and State”. Then on the basis of this further laws were adopted and certain articles of the constitution were suspended. This was followed by so-called” preventative arrests” – people were arrested without specific charges and sent to concentration camps. Why? They represented danger to people and state. A potential one! A communist, a Jew,a social-democrat, someone simply unhappy with the new order, a journalist with a differing point of view. Once again I emphasise – ALL repression in the Third Reich took place STRICTLY according to the law. First they passed a law, then used it to engender total lawlessness. For this reason, when they tell you that the Rada adopted a law on the basis of which they arrest, ban, tear down and close, just understand whose methods they are copying in Ukraine today.
The chief purpose of any fascist junta is to prevent people’s access to alternative information, to the truth. The truth is ruinous to fascism. In any of its incarnations. This is why they first broke the arms of Chilean poet and singer Victor Jara and then they killed him.
Here it is worth pointing out that there is no analogue in the history of Europe to the violence which is taking place in Ukraine right now, but there are analogues in the history of Latin American dictatorships. The fascists in Europe did not kill journalists and political opponents in courtyards of houses and stairwells. They relied on first isolating them and then following up with elimination. In Franco’s Spain after victory they arrested, judged and executed those, who had fought on the side of the Republic. In Latin America, open public executions of dissidents were carried out very frequently.
The goal is intimidation. To close off access to the truth, to block it.
Unfortunately, fascist juntas and dictatorships do not know ways other than violence. Built on a cult of force, on the creation of an enemy image and the fight with him, fascist regimes are always aggressive, they are always fixed on the export of violence beyond their borders.
A different scenario does not exist. In 1937 Hitler had already built an Aryan state in Germany, in various ways displacing those who were called enemies (Jews and communists) from public life. Nevertheless in 1938 the Führer started expansion abroad – Austria, Tschechoslovakia, Poland (1939).
Mussolini was just the same – Italy first invaded Abyssinia (1935) and then Albania (1939).
Today’s fascists are no different. They need war and their expansion is always directed outwards.
But first the fascists MUST fully subjugate their own country. They must completely control her territorially and information-wise. Then they proceed further – beyond her borders.
It is no coincidence that the Ukrainian website “Peacemaker”, notorious following a string of assassinations, contains a list not only of Ukrainian citizens who are undesirable from the point of view of the fascists, but of foreign citizens as well.
Similarly, writer and journalist Oles Buzina, who was murdered in Kiev, was on this list, as was the Rada deputy Oleg Kalashnikov, who was also killed.
We have a situation, where there is a resource which is connected to a man with the name of Gerashenko, who is an assistant to Arsen Avakov, Minister of Internal Affairs. And this resource is a register of people, whom they have started to kill. Incidentally there are also Russian citizens on this list. Even my name can be found on it. https://psb4ukr.org/criminal/starikov-nikolaj-viktorovich/
What is curious and even characteristic: this website is found on the main page of NATO: http://politrussia.com/world/ubiystvo-buziny-975/
It seems to me that the Russian Foreign Ministry and other bodies could pose a whole series of questions on this subject – the creation in other countries of lists of Russian citizens, with such a potential threat, it shouldn’t remain unnoticed.
For those who don’t see fascists in Ukraine.
In Nazi Germany those whose rights were first restricted and who were then destroyed were called Jews. The current powers in Ukraine restrict Russians, calling them “Colorados and Separatists”. The method is the same – only the terms have changed. The meaning doesn’t change. Any genocide in history has always started with terms that separated “them” from “us”. First it is verbal. Then they start to kill…
- SERGEI ANATOLEVICH SUKHOBOK murdered on the night of 12th to 13th April in Kiev.
On the night of 12th to 13th April 2015 the journalist Sergei Sukhobok was murdered in Ukraine. This was reported by the internet publication “Obkom”, of which he was co-founder. In addition to his work in “Obkom” Sergei Sukhobok also wrote articles for the online publication “ProUA”, which he founded as well. Sergei started his career as a journalist in 1998 in the media outlet “Business Donbass”. The murder took place in Kiev. As yet there is no information as to the details of Sergei Sukhobok’s murder. The main version: the murder was related to his professional activity.
- OLEG IVANOVICH KALASHNIKOV shot in the entrance to his home in Kiev.
On the evening of 15th April 2015 Oleg Kalashnikov, deputy of the fifth convocation of the Verkhovnaya Rada from the “Party of Regions”, was killed. The politician went up to the 8th floor of his house in the Podolsk region of Kiev and was shot, notes Lenta.ru. His wife came running out at the sound of the shots and called the police. The Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs brought a criminal case of “premeditated murder”.
Oleg Kalashnikov was an active opponent of the Maidan and was one of the organisers of the Antimaidan in Marinisky Park in Kiev in the Winter of 2013-2014.
The victim reported publicly that right wing radicals had threatened him with murder. Here is the text of Kalashnikov’s statements, published on his Facebook page a month ago:
“The unprecedented terror unleashed by the JUNTA nowadays against dissent of any kind in Ukraine has become everyday reality.
By chance I stumbled upon my performance in a live broadcast of the TV channel “Kiev” from already long ago December 2013… It was the day when the first barricades in the government quarters of the capital went up and my colleagues and I almost needed to attack the rear of our opponents, in order to get into the studio on Kreschchatyk Street. Managing to get on the air after the demonstration “Preserving Ukraine” in Marinisky Park, I decided against the customary campaigning as a candidate for people’s deputy of Ukraine and simply shared with Kievans my thoughts and warnings which already back then flooded my heart with pain.
I don’t want to be the prophet in his own land, but all my warnings from December 2013 have already become the reality of existence in 2015… Thus, in past times, I discovered in myself some prescient qualities, which unfortunately were unable to prevent a FRATRICIDAL WAR in my long-suffering country…
For over a year now I have been in Kiev, which is OCCUPIED BY HATRED…the JUNTA has not only unleashed a bloody fratricidal war, but has moved on to the destruction of all those with different points of view. A series of unexplained “suicides” of strong and courageous people, my friends and co-workers in the party, is seen by the regime as the unavoidability of punishment. NAZISM has essentially become the STATE RELIGION and its supporters believe in their impunity, erasing their country’s towns and villages from the face of the earth and destroying the peaceful population, in the process subtly flaunting the categories of ÜBERMENSCH… Crushing an eight-year old girl under the caterpillar tread of a military vehicle in a peaceful town – is this not a war crime? Brazen looting of the peaceful citizens, plunder, violence and open threats of the use of weapons against protesters – is this not all a consequence of the ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL COUP and ARMED SEIZURE OF POWER in my beloved native Ukraine?
I am not looking for excuses and I admit my guilt as well as the guilt of millions of those who waited in silence and hoped that this would not affect them, that this would all pass them by and that nothing would change the status of their citizenship…
The time has now come for every sane Ukrainian citizen to think about what kind of country we want to pass on to our children and grandchildren…
Today it becomes obvious and absolutely clear that only a preservation of self-identity based on the ACHIEVEMENT of our people in the years of the GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR will allow us to cleanse our hallowed land of filth…
PS The constant psychological pressure and brutal bullying this year during the occupation has not broken me and has not changed my outlook on life… The LATTER-DAY NAZIS cannot intimidate me – A SON OF VETERANS – with their open threats of my physical destruction…
I believe in our Victory over the brown plague! I believe we will save Ukraine!
LET US SERVE OUR HOMELAND TOGETHER!”
- 15th March 2015 MURDER OF THE JOURNALIST OLGA MOROZ
15th March 2015 – Olga Moroz, chief editor of the newspaper “Netishensky Vestnik” was found dead in her own home. Olga Moroz was found dead – with a fracture of the occipital bone and brain oedema. There had been no contact with Moroz since 14th March. As her sister Anna reported to the publication, she found the woman naked on a sofa in the bedroom. Her mobile phone, notebook and keys had disappeared from the flat.
An “epidemic” of suicides of deputies of the regions. Nobody believes that THEY ALL KILLED THEMSELVES! In the period from 25th February to 12th March alone, 4 deputies of the Party of Regions ended their lives by their own hand. Sergei Walter hanged himself, Mikhail Chechetov jumped out of a window, Stanislav Melnik and Aleksandr Peklushenko shot themselves. Criminal cases had been opened against all of the Regions deputies, with the exception of Melnik.
- The “SUICIDE” OF SERGEI WALTER
The first was the 57 year old Sergei Walter, who had been temporarily suspended from his work as mayor of Melitopol (Zaprizhia oblast) for two years already. On 25th February Walter hanged himself in his home in the stairway leading to the garage. His wife discovered the body. The medics who were called to scene were unable to help. The mayor was dead, the doctors just confirmed his death. Sergei Walter was survived by two children – a son and a daughter.
On that day, Walter’s trial was supposed to begin. The town’s residents are convinced that Walter took his life because of the court proceedings which had been going on for two years. The mayor was being held on 13 charges – from extortion to the creation of a criminal gang. His lawyer insists that Walter said that he would fight to the end and was in good spirits, despite the fact that he was not sleeping at night and took sedatives and heart pills.
COINCIDENCE?
- The “SUICIDE” OF ALEKSANDR BORDUG
On the day after Walter’s “death”, Alexander Bordug, Deputy Head of the Melitopol City Police, was found dead. The Ukrainian media reported that the deaths may be related. Sergei Walter’s lawyer, Sergei Kolomyets informed the newspaper “Segodnya”, that Walter was Alexander Bordug’s former boss. “I know him well. His name is not connected with the scandals in the town, but Bordug was involved with maintaining order during demonstrations and was always the focus of attention. Were there enemies? I think so, yes. Pro-Russian citizens and “Svoboda” supporters got together round a table in his office and he tried to mediate. This is what he was doing in recent times” said Kolomyets.
- The “SUICIDE” OF MIKHAIL CHECHETOV
Literally only a couple of days later – on 28th February – the regions deputy Mikhail Chechetov committed suicide. He threw himself out of the window of his own flat on the 17th floor of the house at Nr 2, Mishugi Street. This took place at around 1 am. His wife who woke around half an hour later, went to look for her husband and found only the open window and Chechetov’s slippers.
People’s deputy Anton Gerashenko claimed that judging by the questioning of his wife and others who had seen him the day before, he was in a state of deep depression, following the start of criminal proceedings against him on suspicion of abuse of office at the time of the “snap” election on 16th January 2014.
- STANISLAV MELNIK “SHOT HIMSELF”
On 9th March in the village of Ukrainska in the Obukhov region of Kiev oblast Chechetov’s colleague Stanislav Melnik – a 53 year old people’s deputy from the Party of Regions – ended his life. He had worked in the V, VI and VII convocations of the Rada (2006-2007, 2007-2012, 2012-2014). Melnik shot himself in the forehead with a hunting rifle, registered in his name. Melnik was the directory of the brewery “Sarmat” from 1999 to 2005. He committed suicide in his flat in a multi-storey house. At the time of the suicide the deputy was alone in the flat. His wife discovered the body when she returned home.
- ALEKSANDR PEKLUSHENKO ALSO “SHOT HIMSELF”
One more representative of the Party of Regions was found dead on 12th March. In Zaporozhia the former head of the regional state administration and regions deputy Aleksandr Peklushenko took his own life. He shot himself in his own home in the village of Solnechny in Zaporozhia. Experts have not yet discovered any farewell notes in the house. However the working version remains suicide. Two days before the tragedy the case of the former Governor came up before the Kirovograd court. Two days before these events on 10th March materials from the proceedings against Aleksandr Peklushenko were reviewed in the Kirovsky district court of the city of Kirovograd. Already in September he was charged with the organisation of mass riots. This was the next court session where the interrogation of witnesses was carried out. Peklushenko was present and even asked them questions in the course of the session, a source in the law enforcement agencies informed “KP”.
Earlier…
- 26th January 2015, Nikolai Sergienko “shot himself”
TSN reported on the suicide of the former official, citing their own sources. As noted in the report, the fact of Sergienko’s death was also confirmed by the law enforcement agencies. Sergienko was appointed in 2010 and his appointment was endorsed by the then Prime Minister of Ukraine Nikolai Azarov. Sergienko was 57. After graduating from the Institute of Railway Transport Engineers he started work as a master of the locomotive depot, working his way up to become head of the main department of locomotive facilities “Ukrzaliznytsya” in 2001. Later he headed the Dnieper Railway. From 2006 to 2008 he was Deputy Director of Ukrzaliznytsya, then the head of the Donetzk Railway, then from April 2010 onwards – first Deputy Director of Ukrzaliznytsya. He was fired after the coup –by a corresponding order from the Cabinet of Ministers in April 2014. He was known as a supporter of Yanukovich.
- 29th January 2015 Aleksei Kolesnik, former Chairman of the Kharkhov Regional Council and people’s deputy of the first convocation, “hanged himself”
He was also a supporter of Yanukovich.
- 29th November 2014 Aleksandr Vladimirovich Kuchinsky was stabbed
On 29th November 2014 Aleksandr Kuchinsky, journalist, Chief Editor of the Donetzk newspaper “Kriminal-Express”, author of the books “Chronicle of Donetzk racketeering” and “Anthology of Contract Killing”, was stabbed together with his wife. He was known for his publications on the links between the criminal world and business. The bodies of Kuchinsky and his spouse were discovered with multiple knife wounds in the country home of the journalist in the village of Bogoroditchnoya near Slavyansk.
- 27th August 2014 Valentina Semenyuk-Samsonenko “shot herself”
The former head of the Ukraine state property fund Valentina Semenyuk-Samsonenko was found dead in her own home in the village of Chaika near Kiev on 27th August 2014. She was shot with a gun to the head. Prior to this Valentina Semenyuk had been attacked in the center of Kiev by unidentified people in camouflage and masks. According to Semenyuk’s own words, after an action close to the presidential administration she first fell and then was attacked in her car. The militia consider that she committed suicide. According to the investigation, on the evening of 27th August Valentina Semenyuk took a shot-gun belonging to her son-in-law from the safe, went down on one knee and, resting the butt of the gun on the floor, placed the barrel against her forehead and released the trigger with her hand. However those who knew Valentina Petrovna find it hard to believe that she could have resorted to suicide. In addition, Semenyuk was a devout believer, who as a matter of principle wouldn’t even consider this way of “escaping” a problem, say the relatives of the deceased. Further, several sceptics also point out that this is absolutely not a typical woman’s way of ending one’s life.
The thirteenth victim was Oles Buzina…
Thirteen murders and “suicides” in the last eight months…
Eleven of which were in the last three months…
If this isn’t fascism and a junta, then what is it?
What is it? It’s part of a multi point coordinated effort to provoke a conflict with Russia. Any benefit to squabbling oligarchs is incidental, that Ukrainians are murdering one another is a means. This is a repetition of the acts that lead Germany to expand beyond the Treaty of Versailles boundaries, hence ‘Putin is Hitler’ because of Crimea.
What is it? It’s global capitalism on the march. Call it whatever other bad name that makes you feel better.
What does this have in common with capitalism? Capitalism is market economy, this is rather feaudalism and imperialism mixed with fascist terror and nazi ideology.
I wonder why you folks blame capitalism for everything bad. Capital is as important in socialism as in any other economic system. You should blame the political power monopoly and money changers practices, not the market system that feeds billions of people around the world.
‘ You should blame the political power monopoly and money changers practices, not the market system that feeds billions of people around the world’
What you describe is capitalism.
Ukranian fascism is derelict capitalism. The most powerful business interests on Earth completely own the Ukr. gov. As a consequence, the economic system no longer fits the typical definition of a free-market democracy.
In an anti-symmetrical way, absolutism was derelict feudalism. During absolutism, feudal lords lost power to a central sovereign. Later, during the liberal revolutions, the new sovereign structures were captured by an alliance of the rising merchant class with the middle-classes, who then instituted the liberal, market based, democratic regime. Now, derelict capitalism completes the modern historic cycle (1). Derelict capitalism weakens the central sovereign, preparing the way for a feudal takeover and a second medieval period on Earth.
We can observe how the feudal takeover takes place by observing Somalia, Iraq, Libya, Syria and — now coming to Europe — Ukraine.
(1) The concept of historic cycles was introduced by Plato, in “The Republic”.
A.J. Languth’s book on Dan Mitrone is a classic study of how the U.S. taught torture in the fascist Latin American nations. “Hidden Terrors” is a must read.
If you want to see censorship and information spin, check out Wikipedia on Hidden Terrors. No mention of what the book is about, torture and Mitrone. It’s about ‘foreign policy’. (Lesson: learn to read Wiki with extreme caution. Go to the source material itself. Use many different sources, even for search. Use Duckduckgo, Bing, Yandex, before you use Google).
Brazil and Uruguay were two nations Mitrone worked. Dominican Republic another.
He was the master, the teacher. He often worked through USAID.
Check out Costa-Gravas’ film State of Siege to see how the Tupamaros got their hands on him and finished him off.
The Latin American fascist realm was long, deep, wide and a complete industry with many technologies the US developed and installed.
When you read about how plastic surgery was used as torture to terrorize the youth, students and labor leaders in Brazil, you will have higher regard for Dilma Rousseff who suffered torture herself for 22 days, including electric shock (you can imagine where those electrodes were placed). We all know Chile and Argentina, but Brazil was a hellhole of its own in the 70’s.
And now the US is running a regime change project in Brazil, aided by corruption of government, but aimed at getting the Left out of government regardless.
The US is a worldwide, perpetual government of tyranny and hegemony.
Too many citizens cannot believe their government capable or culpable. However, it is not “their” government and the sooner they understand that disconnection of Power and People, they will then be able to see the Face of Fascism under Uncle Sam’s mask.
Three movies by Costa-Gravas are very informative of the US role in the rise of fascism in the world today (one of them about Europe),”Z”,State of Siege”,and “Missing”.
Excellent entertainment as well as history of the fight against fascism. Great films.
Red Ryder. Excellent, informative comment of the sort that used to appear on the old Saker site. Spare a thought for the recently departed Eduardo Galeano whose wonderful book “Open Veins of Latin America” has been an inspiration for so many people.
“you can imagine where those electrodes were placed”
This is disrespectful towards the president of a (BRICS) country, especially as she is a woman.
Torture is not porn except for psychopats.
The genitalia are extremely sensitive areas, which is why torturers often place electrodes in them. To point this out is neither disrespectful nor is it pornographic.
nor necessary, if it is widespread practice
The contribution appears to be anchored in a projected “as is”, not moving to a “what if”, and with little notion of a “how to”.
As to the apparent salient questions: “What is fascism? What are its main features?”
Why not test the following hypotheses?
Within systems of commodity production there is perceived by some whom deem themselves exceptional, to be a linear paradigm of control from fascism to social democracy.
The perception of relative positions within the linear paradigm are often assays of the amalgm overt/covert coercion.
The particular position adopted within this linear paradigm is a function of many factors including but not necessarily limited, to the rate of accumulation and opportunities afforded.
Its main features are similarly functions of many factors including but not necessarily limited to, context, the rate of accumulation and opportunities afforded.
As to the assertion, “in Kiev, which is OCCUPIED BY HATRED”
Kiev is occupied by people, some of whom exhibit and practice hatred, although this “someness” is laterally dynamic.
As to mode of exposition and extrapolations thereon:
“In 1937 Hitler had already built an Aryan state in Germany, in various ways displacing those who were called enemies (Jews and communists) from public life. Nevertheless in 1938 the Führer started expansion abroad – Austria, Tschechoslovakia, Poland (1939).
Mussolini was just the same – Italy first invaded Abyssinia (1935) and then Albania (1939).
Today’s fascists are no different. They need war and their expansion is always directed outwards.”
Life/history/time is laterally interactive so using historical analogy is a form of self-delusion.
“Today’s fascists are no different” because they also live in space and time (2015 not 1939) forming significant part of context.
They have neither omniscience nor sole agency.
However to some they appear threatening like those bad boys/girls mama advised them not to play with.
That is generally good advice to be heeded, since the naive often just get in the way and become “martyrs”.
I’ve always been of the opinion,you fight and kill that kind of evil.And you know what,I still have that opinion.
“I’ve always been of the opinion,you fight and kill that kind of evil.And you know what,I still have that opinion.”
It is fortunate that your activities will likely be resticted to blogging and that others with greater agency are of a more nuanced opinion, otherwise the spores will be left to grow.
Conseques of leaving the spores and covering the complicities given Munich was a location.
http://russia-insider.com/en/who-stepan-bandera/6217
“Final solutions” are never “final” or “solutions”.
Oh it’s you! again!…the inter-lecturer
The posit-er…data collector
Haha,oh no.No really,”oh no”.
yay Uncle Bob – go go go…!! I’m with you buddy.
“data collector”
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Yeah, the 1936 Berlin [Summer] Olympics was quite a show off, wasn’t it?
Even gold medalist Jesse Owens still had to come in through the backdoor and couldn’t stay in ‘Whites Only‘ ventures. He saw more of Chancellor Hitler, than he did of Kaiser FDR…
1936 US Track team had to leave off Marty Glickman and another Jewish track star in order to not upset the Fascists. No Jews.
That would have been something with a Black and Jews blowing away the Germans in the relay races.
And what did cowardice accomplish?
The lesson is always fight fascism. Resist!
@ Mats,
“As a token gesture to placate international opinion, German authorities allowed the part-Jewish fencer Helene Mayer to represent Germany at the Olympic Games in Berlin. She won a silver medal in women’s individual fencing and, like all other medalists for Germany, gave the Nazi salute on the podium. After the Olympics, Mayer returned to the United States. No other Jewish athlete competed for Germany. Still, nine Jewish athletes won medals in the Nazi Olympics, including Mayer and five Hungarians. Seven Jewish male athletes from the United States went to Berlin. Like some of the European Jewish competitors at the Olympics, many of these young men were pressured by Jewish organizations to boycott the Games. As most did not fully grasp at the time the extent and purpose of Nazi persecution of Jews and other groups, these athletes chose to compete.” Link to USHMM
In Canada we have absurdity on stupidity and here Valentina Lisitsa Ukrainian pianist, whose scheduled appearances this week at Roy Thomson Hall were cancelled by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra, said she would not change her social media habits or stop talking about the conflict in Ukraine, even though her tweets on that subject were held up by the TSO as too inflammatory for her to take the stage. The fact is that the Ukrainian Nazi lobby in Canada with the support of Harper made sure that she does not perform at Roy Thomson Hall.
Valentina Lisitsa has been shut out of another venue merely for telling it like it is -is this not fascism? It’s the Ukrainian Nazis equating of Marxists with their enemies the Nazis. How absurd by the Nazis in Kiev to compare dictatorship of Stalin with Marxism.
Kievan Nazis and their demented brothers here in Canada say hateful things about her but accuse her of “hate” speech, the new tool of fascists to control though and speech but never theirs. Valentina Lisitsa to her credit writes “The only honourable thing for me is to keep doing exactly what I’m doing, If I would now be just tweeting kitten pictures and about the next concert, people would know that I still have duct tape over my mouth,” she said, referring to a poster she designed to protest against her dismissal. “People would not believe that I became mellow and nice; they would understand that I would be self-censoring, and that would be the worst thing.”
In 1935, the Seventh World Congress of the Communist International famously defined fascism as “the openly terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.” This definition, termed the Dimitrov Formulation (after Georgi Dimitrov, head of the Comintern) provides a solid Marxist foundation for understanding the nature of fascism.
But the junta is really just a robot weapon aimed at harming Russia. No matter what destruction occurs, it is probably good for the US. Calling the current regime a junta is sullying the good name of many past juntas.
Actually, there is more to the junta than anti-Russian subversion, even though the latter is one of its essential “responsibilities”. As the Comintern made clear, the open terroristic dictatorship of fascism is serving High Finance vis-à-vis the country in which the gangsters have been put into power. In Ukraine’s case, this translates into “trashing the soil for the benefit of oil and agrobusiness”.
If this isn’t fascism and a junta, then what is it?
Yes, it is fascism and yes, it is a junta, but I think it goes deeper than that; it is much worse than that. I warn that what we’re seeing is a demonic rampage that has been enabled by those in power who are completely influenced and adhere to satanism. The source of fascism, and communism too, for that matter has always been the Illuminati, or the synagogue of satan. It’s purpose is to destroy good people, and destroy the Faith by creating division, hatred, and fomenting violence. And you see, Victoria, cookie babushka, Nuland, and neo-con radical from the USA fully behind everything that has taken place. These so-called Neo-cons are fascists, are satanists, and fully committed to the New World Order agenda that is the foundation of the Illuminati, that was the spawn of House Rothschild in 1776. It is all connected. It is all the instigation of the fallen angels, and it is all purposed for the destruction/ enslavement of humanity, the core of their hatred of God the creator.
There cannot be a political solution. Mere “talks” will not solve this. This is a War of spiritual dimensions. It is a War against all of us, all over the world. The sooner we realize it, the sooner we can do what has to be done to turn the tide, with God and the forces of heaven as our defenders. Without that realization, the spiritual re-awakening I’m urging, there can be no victory because human ability by itself is no match against the supernatural evil that has attacked us.
It must be nice to pretend that bad things only occur because of demons. The truth of it is that the only demons in this world are certain human beings. Theres nothing ‘supernatural’ about Fascism.
That’s very silly.
Re: David… ” And you see, Victoria, cookie babushka, Nuland”
On behalf of all thinking babushkas, please don’t use a respected Russian term of endearment in relation to Nuland – please call her an American term ‘cookie monster’!
MV Jim
I agree with you Dave. Trust in the Lord & he will give us the victory !!
Dear David, a very good comment….I would like to comment on your comment….and its purely my personal opinion….I think the word Satan – Satanism and etc…is somewhat outdated, although true. The word for my group of people. – that read Rudolf Steiner…calls this dark being Ahriman…this is from Zarathustra’s teachings…which you might say is very outdated…except that Ahriman does not have the creepy emotional feeling that Satanism has….which puts some people off…although I think it is the same being….
There’s another being that is evil..but not of such a powerful magnitude…and that’s Lucifer. He is a fallen angel…Ahriman is a fallen elohim…a higher order..more powerful
Also “Steiner felt that Russia was the country that best captured the spirit of the age, and whose people kept their souls open to the ‘continuous influx of the Christ-like impulse’. He suggested that the ‘female’ east (Russia) should be impregnated by the ‘male’ west.”
http://www.thehereticmagazine.com/page_stalin.html
hmm … I never read Steiner say the second part of your quote…but the first part … yes.
The Hegemon’s BBC vassal calling! The Hegemon’s BBC vassal calling!
Finland drops depth charges in ‘submarine’ alert
“Finland’s navy has dropped depth charges in waters near Helsinki as a warning to a suspected submarine.
An unidentified object was spotted on Monday within Finnish territorial waters. It was detected again early on Tuesday, the navy said.
The incident comes amid growing concern in the region over Russia’s military exercises”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32498790
So UFOs (unidentified floating object) again, this time in Finland. Note how the article regurgitates the previous Swedish UFO despite Sweden eventually -after the propaganda value had run its full course- stated the UFO was a “utiity vessel” AKA fishing/recreational boat.
These continuous ‘The Russians are coming!” juvenile propaganda stunts could be dismissed as NATO childish belligerent bluff were it not public preparation for war.
@ SanctuaryOne,
Q; So UFOs (unidentified floating object) again…
R; Nice one. Thanks for the lol.
Fascism of the Kiev Junta, nurtured by the American/Anglo/Zionist Oligarchs
The article by Nikolai Starikov is a carefully wrought exposé that accurately documents its description of the Kiev Junta, as “fascist.”
And the deeds of fascists are terrible to behold. The only weakness in their armor, and the armor of all fascists, is when they are opposed by well organized armed revolutionists; and, additionally, nations, such as Russia, Yugoslavia, Greece, and China, fighting for their survival, also aid in the defeat of fascism.
To those who are shocked at the support of the Western Oligarchs, including the Zionist establishment, (who pretend a certain revulsion with fascism), of the Neo-Nazi (fascists) in Kiev, it is to be hoped that their shock (at times only pretended), changes to concrete and effective remedial action. Don’t hold your breath.
In an earlier time, 1936-1939, there was little help for the Spanish Republicans, and much more help for the Spanish Fascists. The United States government, as well as England, actively supported and aided the Spanish Fascist forces of Franco to overthrow and defeat the Spanish Republic, (with England’s premier politician, Winston Churchill, behaving like American politician John McCain-who supports Unkrainian fascists of a later epoch- in support of the Spanish fascists). The America of Roosevelt refused to sell arms to the legally democratically elected Spanish Republic. Its “arms embargo” only hurt the Republic, as the German and Italian Governments were sending a vast supply of weapons to Franco’s Falangists. Russia and Mexico were the only governments willing to sell arms and other war supplies to the Republic, and those supplies did not equal the supplies from the ‘European fascist governments to the fascist side.
Churchill, as with McCain, openly supported English fascists (volunteers) who fought with the Franco forces; and he supported the German Nazi and Italian Fascist military intervention that ensured the fascist victory. Churchill’s advertised opposition to Nazism, occurred late in his political career, and only after he feared for the loss of the British Empire to the Nazis. Recall the analogy of America’s parting of ways with their obedient puppet, Saddam Hussein.
George Orwell’s autobiographical “Homage to Catalonia,” is recommended reading. It will aid in understanding the war in Eastern Europe. Of Orwell’s books, it is the one least mentioned by the Liberal imperialist controllers of all knowledge. They wish he had never written it.
The fascists, with the overwhelming backing they have appear unbeatable.
The fascist willingness to slaughter their way to victory, makes them appear unbeatable.
There is no alternative to the victory of the Democratic Republics if the human race is to have a bright future (and not the Barbaric future of “1984”).
For the Democratic Republics! Here and There!
Alternate elections to oppose the Circus of 2016 and the anointment of Hilary Clinton!
Restore the American Republic!
For the VISION
IMAGINE
The “Spanish Republic” was helped by the soviets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracuellos_massacres
Yes – all the points you are making are indeed describing a fashist regime. Now try replacing Ukraine with Russia and it all falls into place again! We can even create similar list from Nemtsov, Politovskaya etc.
Hmmm,only in the mind of a pro-Empire Russophobe. Are you coming out now?
I am no russophobe – i like Russians. But I think that no country should be larger than the Netherlands and i absolutely despise anyone why somehow thinks that his/her nation, gender, skin color or faith is better than someone else’s.
Would you like to live in Yemen, Afghanistan, Haiti, Ukraine ?
Some places are “superior ” places to exsist.
It’s human “exceptionalism” or the “chosen” people who destroy mother earth and her peoples.
You protest to much, agenda ?
That is the Empire’s agenda.Turn the world into many mini-states.They have done wonders with that in Europe and are still working for that with Russia ,China,and the Middle East.Its much easier to control and subvert tiny states than big ones.And in case you were wondering,no, the Empire doesn’t have any intention of breaking themselves down to Netherlands size.They figure the 50 States are little countries joined in a Confederation.And because they are a special kind of country (exceptional you might even say) they are exempt from those rules for small countries.Its only the “evildoers” like Russia and China that need to be broken up.
esten…where’s your friend Charette ? You I guess fit into the category of liberal
Jokers – no, I wouldnt want to live there. And if there would be war in my country, I would go and fight for its freedom. I dont care if against Russia or US – neither of them has no business here.
Uncle Bob – where did you read that I think that US is an exception? If it would be up to me, i would even split Texas. I would love to live in a world of puny countries and without superpowers trying to broaden their areas of influence.
Ann – Liberalism is based on liberty and equality, so yes, I would proudly consider myself as a liberal. How about you? Dont you think that people should be free and equal?
that anonymous was supposed to be esten, sorry!
the meaning of liberalism…to esten….well, not if you read the above article…
If this is how Russian historians and analysts record and format history, I’ll have to discount all the so called alternate versions of history to the established western version that I’ve come to give credence to. I assumed the establishment version was the lie and victors interpretation of events and facts, but from this Starikov rendition of current affairs, I have to conclude that the alternate histories of Salvador Allande and the Bolivarian cause in Latin America which casts their opponents as fascists and evil capitalists and themselves as righteous defenders of decency and the oppressed masses, as equal if not a worse interpretation of reality, compared to the so called oppressors rendition of history. The repressive reaction of the Ukrainian government is an obvious defensive reaction to the mortal danger of separatism and traitorous elements within the Ukrainian state. The Ukrainian government would’ve been fools to entertain this level of sedition with normal judicial and democratic processes. Any sane state who permits this threat to go unchallenged would not survive long enough to even plead the righteousness of its cause before the bar of history. The intent of separatism is to fracture and destroy the state, it is extrajudicial in its nature and logic and only states tired of survival meet such a threat with judicial structures. These disloyal elements first demonstrated their malicious intent through real actions that nearly destroyed the state, they weren’t benign and harmless dissenters as this account paints them out to be. No state that is committed to its survival would permit such open treason to go unchecked, not even Russia (Chechnya as the prime internal example of Russia’s equivalent reaction to this same threat and all the frozen conflicts around its periphery from the Caucasus to Transdnistria, as the her reaction to perceived threats to her geopolitical survival). Was Russia fascistic for not permitting an armed insurgency to fester unchecked in Chechnya? What about the rights of all those brutally suppressed in Grozny and beyond under a hail of MLRS artillery and tanks, or do their grievances not count as legitimate because they wore beards instead of St. George ribbons. I hope this isn’t the template with which all those so called real histories about nazis and monstrous junta regimes in the alternative media were recorded, because they’d be worse than false fabrications of facts if they were. They would be the excuse laden Lamentations of sore losers, who could not face the reality of their own failures.
@HistoryVreality
Sigh… What a load of preposterous blather — ever heard of synopsizing, perchance? You could in fact have shortened down that voluminous diatribe of yours to this sentence only:
“The repressive reaction of the Ukrainian government is an obvious defensive reaction to the mortal danger of separatism and traitorous elements within the Ukrainian state.”
Now, let’s get serious since this is a most significant subject matter:
The difference between fascism and bourgeois (“liberal”) democracy used to be that whereas the former amounts to coercion accompanied by deception, it’s the reverse which applies to the latter. From this viewpoint, Ukraine’s coup d’état constitutes a most clarifying case study; even more so as it also shows why the above formula is in need of a reassessment.
The Ukro fascists’ yearning for brutal, all-out terroristic violence against their targeted enemies is something the fascist scum are being 100% honest about; no secret or deception to anybody. However, their alleged “patriotism” implies the utter trashing of the country all along the line, only for the benefit of the oligarchs and their foreign backers. In short: Coercion accompanied by deception.
Bourgeois democracy set the stage by the good offices of the West’s NGO swamp and by the EU and the IMF blackmailing the Ukrainian government. Knowing the grip of their corporate propaganda (and the Ukros’ own Eurocentric prejudices), the PR part promoting the putsch was easy. Hence, the imbecilic “popular” Maidan stunt rapidly deteriorating into full-blown counterrevolutionary mayhem which was the intended result. In short: Deception accompanied by coercion.
Now, given 30 odd years of neoliberal development of capitalism, bourgeois democracy and, most notably, bourgeois legality have become threadbare, especially with the onset of the terminal, financial crisis. Parliamentary democracy has always been a con trick, sure, but nowadays the banks and the big corporations no longer pretend to be committed to it even the slightest; TTIP being a clear case in point. Just like in the 19th and early 20th centuries, spying, lawlessness, perpetual wars, and brutal austerity have become capitalism’s universal norm. The conclusion, therefore, is that what passes for “bourgeois democracy” is becoming less and less distinguishable from fascism, thus rendering the former concept superfluous except for historians.
However, there is an interesting difference between Eastern Europe and the whole of West regarding the fascist rabble itself. In the West where centuries of genocidal, colonial plunder eventually allowed the capitalists to bribe the vast majority of their home populations — thus preserving social peace — today’s Western fascists behave like madly jealous lovers. They note 100% correctly that their formerly deeply revered betters are treating them with ever more boldness, bluntness, and outright contempt. The typical Western petty bourgeois bigot, however, hasn’t lost the deeply ingrained sense of all-out superiority and entitlement to other peoples’ natural resources and labour output. And the repulsive habit of grovelling before the rich and powerful still runs way too deep to be dispensed with. Hence, Western fascists duly concentrate on issues such as immigration and multiculture, hoping that the bigotry of Western imperialism will come to their rescue if they simply become sufficiently bigoted themselves (not going to work — sorry).
In Eastern Europe, the fascists are fuelled by the sense of having lost History’s lottery. In their imagination, the West would have granted them Instant Heaven, but those bloody Russians forced the exact opposite on them. They are wilfully blind to the demise of the West, prefering to be proud bootlickers and slaves to it.
From the aggressive way in which you initiated your attack on my comment, I assumed you were armed with facts and logical arguments that would shatter my case and expose it for being flawed. Instead you fizzled out and could only muster a weak attempt to digress from the central argument of my case i.e. What is the difference between the Ukrainian government’s aggressive defense of its survival, and Russia’s aggressive defense against Chechen separatism? Why is the Ukrainian version denigrated as fascism and Russia’s excused by Starikov, and why should any state anywhere respond cordially to dissidents who seek its extinction. Unlike Starikov or you, I’m honest enough to admit that any citizen of any state anywhere, forfeits his right to judicial redress the moment he threatens the survival of the state. Russia was justified in her actions in Chechnya, as is The Ukrainian government in its response to separatism. If that is fascism, then I’m afraid it’s the Utopian naïveté of the ignorant, which expect the machinery of the state to meet an existential threat with impotent rhetoric and judicial procedure. You’ll have to combat and defeat my argument on its merits, otherwise you’re only demonstrating your impotence with all that harmless posturing. Try again.
“What is the difference between the Ukrainian government’s aggressive defense of its survival, and Russia’s aggressive defense against Chechen separatism?”
[a] Chechen separatism was aided and abetted by external powers hostile to Russia.
[b] Critically, its MO featured terror against civilians, which no state could allow and remain legitimate.
[c] The Russian government of the time did not come to power in a violent coup, and was universally recognized as legitimate.
[d] The Russian government did not express, much less incite hatred against Chechens.
As I’m sure you’re aware, there are many other differences.
Indeed, the question of the state’s right to protect itself is one worth exploring, but we should make clear at the beginning that its very best defense against dissidence is to provide the structures needed for its citizens to lead satisfactory lives.
Sometimes, social and cultural issues trump that, and the state is forced to make a decision. Czechoslovakia went quietly, Turkey (in the case of the Kurds) did not.
In the case of Ukraine, the coup govt forced some of its regions to make the decision by passing laws directly attacking their social and cultural constructs (eg: language laws), and then attacked with military force those that weren’t cowed by the ordinary terror it unleashed in other dissenting regions (eg: Kharkov & Odessa).
Hope that helps.
So to set the record straight, you say Russia was fully justified in her murderous campaigns in Chechnya because the Russian regime passed the test of being democratically elected. Russia according to you was righteous in its violent suppression of the Chechen separatists because the separatist cause, weighed against the greater good of the Russian state was found wanting and deserved the retribution visited upon the Chechens. I say regardless of her excuse, Russia murdered 250,000 Chechen civilians in the pursuit of less than 10,000 fighters. And she didn’t decimate this population because the survival of the Russian state hung in the balance as is the case of Ukraine, I say she did it for those precious pipelines running through Grozny and for the right to claim a buffer region in Russia’s otherwise exposed flank in the Caucasus. You say the Ukrainian state under the current government is a fascist junta because it’s refusal to submit to the blackmail of ethnic Russians on its territory has resulted in the murder of less than 10,000 on both sides of the conflict. As far as the foreign support of the Chechens, the Donbass separatists are also receiving substantial support from Russia,a foreign patron, so that’s neither here nor there. We might disagree on the reasons and justifications for both sides, but judging by the numbers, you’ll have to excuse my hesitation to condemn the Ukrainian government for its reaction to separatism. After all, if you can justify the decimation of 250,000 over a few pipelines, what’s A few thousand when the very existence of the Ukrainian state is at stake. We agree that it’s perfectly acceptable for a state to exterminate hundreds of thousands of its own civilian citizenry just as long as it can fabricate a good enough excuse. I’m sure given enough time, the Ukrainian junta will also perfect their excuse which admittedly isn’t quite up to your satisfaction at this point in time. We have more in common than it appears, it’s a fair start.
to HistoryVreality
“You’ll have to combat and defeat my argument on its merits”
Easy..
In Ukraine, the legitimate constitutional government was violently overthrown by armed terrorists openly funded and backed by the foreign governments. This extrajudicial coup was in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. After the coup the text of the Construction of Ukraine in its English and Ukrainian versions had disappeared from its website and returned changed. Something, that no one ever addressed.
People of the East Ukraine did not support anti-government coup d’état and didn’t agreed to the military junta rule. At least 10 million people held peaceful referendums demanding autonomy from the Kiev junta and the use of Russian language. The leaders of junta, who are the terrorists by definition, called to “nuke” them, also to “hang them,” to burn them,” to cut them knifes, to bury them. The separatism movement was born as a natural response to the deadly force.
In Chechnya, legitimate government of Russia and the legitimate local government was fighting against the foreign insurgents and terrorists back by the foreign states. In according to the President Putin, as said in the new documentary The President, the wahabists militants were trained, funded and directed by the U.S. The militants were attacking schools, theaters and towns and villages, terrorizing the civilians. The government of Russia was protecting the civilian population.
In essence, the Kiev junta is the same as wahabists militants insurgents in Chechnya, funded by the U.S., directed by the U.S. in order to destroy the legitimate sovereign governments and to terrorize the nations. The unconstitutional junta is attacking the civilian population, by bombing the small towns and cities with population of million and above, by cutting water and food supply, by setting up wildfires around radioactive zones.
The People’s Republic of Donetsk and People’s Republic of Lugansk are the only legitimate government organizations in Ukraine, since they followed and stayed loyal the original pre-coupe Constitution of Ukraine.
however, these are similar wars. The Ukrainian war is a multinational war against people of Ukraine. The Chechen wars were the multinational wars against people of Russia.
A couple of quotations:
“Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the
people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an
army upon their ruins.”
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate
over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, August 17, 1789.
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke
Thank you.I was about to bring the same argument up.Since when goes an “illegal coup regime” get to be called the “Ukrainian government”.Ukraine’s legal government died in February 2014.Murdered by the coup plotters and the US/EU agents.From then on any government assuming power anywhere in Ukraine is on the same level as the other.Though the one in Novorossia that actually held a peoples referendum, in my book has more legitimacy than the junta stooges in Kiev.
So to set the record straight, you say Russia was fully justified in her murderous campaigns in Chechnya because the Russian regime passed the test of being democratically elected. Russia according to you was righteous in its violent suppression of the Chechen separatists because the separatist cause, weighed against the greater good of the Russian state was found wanting and deserved the retribution visited upon the Chechens. I say regardless of her excuse, Russia murdered 250,000 Chechen civilians in the pursuit of less than 10,000 fighters. And she didn’t decimate this population because the survival of the Russian state hung in the balance as is the case of Ukraine, I say she did it for those precious pipelines running through Grozny and for the right to claim a buffer region in Russia’s otherwise exposed flank in the Caucasus. You say the Ukrainian state under the current government is a fascist junta because it’s refusal to submit to the blackmail of ethnic Russians on its territory has resulted in the murder of less than 10,000 on both sides of the conflict. As far as the foreign support of the Chechens, the Donbass separatists are also receiving substantial support from Russia,a foreign patron, so that’s neither here nor there. We might disagree on the reasons and justifications for both sides, but judging by the numbers, you’ll have to excuse my hesitation to condemn the Ukrainian government for its reaction to separatism. After all, if you can justify the decimation of 250,000 over a few pipelines, what’s A few thousand when the very existence of the Ukrainian state is at stake. We agree that it’s perfectly acceptable for a state to exterminate hundreds of thousands of its own civilian citizenry just as long as it can fabricate a good enough excuse. I’m sure given enough time, the Ukrainian junta will also perfect their excuse which admittedly isn’t quite up to your satisfaction at this point in time. We have more in common than it appears, it’s a fair start.
It would be helpful if you read as well, or at least as much, as you write.
To set the record even straighter, there was (and remains) no legitimate government in Kiev. There was a partially successful, violent coup, which failed to bring all of the ousted legitimate government’s support to its side. In fact, were it not for a reign of terror, it would have brought much less than it did, but in any case it was patently not a popular uprising.
To the extent that a state requires a legitimate government, the existence of the state of Ukraine is also in doubt. Or, at least, there is considerable doubt about its territorial extent and the extent to which it rules with the consent of its citizens.
As its power base remains perilously, indeed increasingly narrow, we can expect its claim to “statehood” to continue to weaken until finally, everyone acknowledges the obvious.
Thanks to the Saker and his friends for printing this “Historyvreality.” It is well written, and forces us to think and examine our beliefs. The Saker people are correctly fearless and allowing all views to be aired. I wonder if this “Hvr” person can name any American media that would return the favor (behave democratically)??
Is that the writer’s name? Nom de plum? Even while spouting the approved American/Anglo/Zionist Oligarch version of history, (which is quite safe to do), this writer, (who has nothing to fear), is too cowardly (or is there another reason?), to back up his analysis with his name.
The key to “Hvr”s thesis has been stated by him, succinctly, “I’ll have to discount all the so called alternate versions of history to the established western version that I’ve come to give credence to.” This is what Hvr wants. This is what he/she is advocating. He/she supports the belief in “the established western version…” The rest is pure, but well done fluff.
There is separatism, and there is separatism. There has been the separatism advocated by the American imperialist government of Andrew Jackson, who supported the separation of Texas from Mexico. He sent agents/terrorists to obtain Texas as a SLAVE STATE for the United States. Mexico, which, as with the northern American states, had abolished slavery upon the achievement of their independence. Mexico, as with the Northern American states, refused to allow the institution of slavery to enter their territory. Hollywood’s recent movie “The Alamo,” fails to inform the viewer of that most vital fact.
The Southern American states seceeded to defend human Slavery, Texas seceeded to expand humanslavery. The secession of America from the British empire was not of the same order. Neither was the secession of Ireland (the Republic thereof), from England of the same order. These secessions were attempted to expand liberty, and end slavery.
Referendums, not violence, should decide all national issues. Woodrow Wilson’s 14 Points make fine reading. The democratic People’s Republics, and Crimea held referendums as a cornerstone of their Moral striving for freedom. By analogy, when the United States Oligarchs invaded Vietnam, they had just sabotaged a nationwide election that had been arranged by the Geneva Accords of 1954. But I digress,
One man’s secession is another man’s terrorism, or something like that. You take your Tibet, and I’ll take my Puerto Rico. Your Dalai Lama versus my Pedro Albizu Campos.
You choose your secession, and I’ll chose mine! Thankyou.
John Lennon: I need a song.
IMAGINE
Good effort, but you missed my central motivation. I don’t accept the American version of history because I’m blind to its flaws and demerits, I accept it because Starikov and other alternative versions are not superior in quality, they are merely different. It would be in my interest as a Russian to accept the competing version, but why should an American read history from Russia’s perspective, while Russians read it from their own? I was under the impression that our version in America was the false, prejudiced account of something darker that actually occurred. I got that impression from reading sites like Saker’s and other alternative media. I’m now convinced they don’t have the purified truth either, only their version of truth. So I try to honestly discern for myself with the power of my logic, what the facts of events were, through the fog and smoke of all the propaganda from all sides. Maybe you meant the same as well. As far as my identity and its relation to cowardice, I fail to see the demonstration of courage in advertising your strenghts or weaknesses to total strangers who might be hostile on closer inspection. Besides, logic is the main requirement for battling ideas in this format, courage is superfluous.
“I don’t accept the American version of history because I’m blind to its flaws and demerits, I accept it because Starikov and other alternative versions are not superior in quality, they are merely different.”
This is disingenuous, as if you were choosing between red and black Ferraris. Your “quality” is surely nothing if it isn’t being judged by the accuracy of the competing narratives’ mapping to public facts. There are enormous gaps in the Western version that are filled in the Starikov version.
If the word “quality” has a different, arbitrary meaning for you, please don’t use it, or at least define it.
This is your second attempt at helping me understand your perspective so I’ll return the favor. By qualitative difference I mean an objective analysis of events, not prejudiced by the interpreter’s own nationalistic preferences. For instance, every society has its own hierarchical system. This system has both winners and losers but survives the test of time because it generally works for the benefit of that society as a whole. One can therefore always find dissidents in that society, that is those on the losing end of the spectrum, they will naturally have innumerable reasons and excuses to explain their discontent, but an objective observer can deduce that the dissidents complain not because the society is inherently evil or that there is a better alternative to that system, but rather because the dissidents have a powerful incentive to speak unfavorably of that system. It simply doesn’t pay them to accept the status quo. To relate this back to the topic at hand, starikov’s rendition of the history of fascism stems from the fact that this particular version of fascism, let’s call it the Ukro-American brand, doesn’t pay fellows like him. He is ready to excuse the fascism and capitalist oligarchy of his preferred state, Russia, which makes whatever he has to say about Ukro-American fascism unreliable and dishonest at best. There is obviously a geopolitical struggle for dominance between Russia and America in Ukraine. Beneath this simmers an internal struggle by proxies of both sides to ensure that their patron dominates on the ground, since the spoils will be divided according to the terms of the side that wins. Neither side operates with the best interests of the average Ukrainian at heart, and whichever side triumphs will do so because it is stronger, not because it is morally righteous. The disingenuity in this instance would be the attempt to accuse ones opponents of crimes he is guilty of himself or only failed to commit for lack of the ability to do so, not the desire. Hope that helps.
If you’re addressing me…
Cutting to the chase, it seems you’d like to solve your political variant of Hempel’s Theoretician’s Dilemma.
Restating it for your application:
Either the analyst’s work is reducible to statements of facts, or it is not. In the 1st case what does it add, and in the 2nd, what is it? In either case, why bother?
Read Hempel and find out. Perhaps you’ll spare us another giant word salad hiding the great quest for “objective analysis” within….
There are some long-winded rebuttals to HistoryVreality, but his analysis fails on the basic logical fallacy of using a false premise, through a question-begging assumption. HistoryVreality states, “The repressive reaction of the Ukrainian government is an obvious defensive reaction to the mortal danger of separatism and traitorous elements within the Ukrainian state.”
This would be an entirely reasonable observation, except that it begs the false assumption that the Ukrainian government is the legitimate government of the Ukraine. The Kiev regime may be the “de facto” government, and is even recognised as such by Russia for the purposes of diplomatic relations, but it is not the “de jure” government, which was indeed overthrown by “traitorous elements within the Ukrainian state.”
So, let us rephrase HistoryVreality’s observation in a closer approach to reality as, “The reaction of the Ukrainian government-in-exile (based in the Donbass, led in part by Oleg Tsarev, a legitimately elected member of the Ukrainian Rada, and reflecting Zakharchenko’s invitation to all loyal Ukrainians to join forces to defeat the traitors in Kiev), is an obvious defensive reaction to the mortal danger of traitorous elements within the the Ukrainian state.”
It is a characteristic of “trolls” that they are not troubled by adherence to the principles of logical argument.
With all the “anonymous”es participating on the Saker website, it would be helpful if each participant on this website would have (at least) a Nom de Plume, so that we would have a rough idea of who we are replying to.
I think some of the anonymice have been told by their bosses to use names now.
Very astute observation on your part which serves to prove my point. You feel just as justified in your cause as the junta does. Which means we’ve exhusted the judicial process of settling this dispute. Hence the resort to force of arms. Whoever prevails in this struggle, gets their version of events validated and trumpeted as the established history, the loser’s version gets relegated to the realm of conspiracy theory and alternative insignificance. Where we differ is when the loser attempts to discredit the version of his betters, and the unsuspecting bystanders see this attempt as the restoration of a cause somehow holier or purer, and therefore deserving of the right to supplant the established history. Starikov decries fascism in Ukraine and elsewhere as if his were the only interpretation of events. My only point was that this is a false rendition and gets us no further in solving the Ukrainian crises. I understand you well and hope you understand me just as well, I can’t comprehend why you felt the need to throw in the “troll” term, are trolls the only ones who differ from your orthodoxy?
The intent of separatism is to fracture and destroy the state, it is extrajudicial in its nature and logic and only states tired of survival meet such a threat with judicial structures. These disloyal elements first demonstrated their malicious intent through real actions that nearly destroyed the state, they weren’t benign and harmless dissenters as this account paints them out to be.
Overthrowing the previous president of Ukraine would suit my definition “extrajudicial” just fine. This coup was the proximate and immediate cause of both Crimea’s secession and Donbass’ sovereignty referendum. And if the “disloyal elements” demonstrating “their malicious intent” you’re referring to are the people of the Donbass, then you should be aware that all they did was hold a lousy referendum. They did not kill a single person. It was Kiev that branded them ‘terrorists’ and sent the tanks rolling in. Always remember that: it was Kiev that attacked Donbass, not the other way around. The people of the Donbass are simply defending their land, their compatriots, and their freedom from an illegal, phalangist regime already guilty of multiple war crimes.
@HvsR:
” The intent of separatism is to fracture and
destroy the state, it is extrajudicial in its
nature and logic and only states tired of
survival meet such a threat with judicial
structures. These disloyal elements first
demonstrated their malicious intent through
real actions that nearly destroyed the state,
they weren’t benign and harmless
dissenters as this account paints them out
to be.”
Wonder how your set-in-stone concept of ‘the state’ and its response to ‘separatism’ deals with the American Revolution?
The Donbass rebellion only evolved into separatism – and that is by no means final – when they were slated for depopulation by a junta financed and peopled by an array of outsiders, which overthrew a democratically-elected government via a coup backed with armed fascist muscle. Presumably you think the Palestinians are merely ‘dissenters’ too? That their grievance is also merely ‘malicious’?
I suggest you consider the difference between the concepts of ‘nation’ and ‘state’. You may arrive at some kind of enlightenment.
Generally I like the information presented here, but I must argue with the presenters misunderstanding of “liberalism.”
Since it is not my role to educate him, I will limit my comment to simply point out that this characterization is not only patently false, but false to such a degree that it prevents me from placing any faith in the writer’s ability to form logical constructs.
It is one thing to argue well from false assumptions. It is quite another to allow one’s personal hatred to impair rational thought.
George Soros personifies Liberalism. Nikolai Starikov is right on the money about the plague.
Liberalism is the plea for ‘tolerance’ of class/wealth-based exploitation by the rich of the (considerably) poorer.
‘Non-judgmentalism’ – ie abandonment of critical/moral evaluation of actions which impact on others – is their get-out-of-jail-free card.
Since all perception is a judgement, whether voluntary or involuntary, it is socially untenable.
That’s why we now have the political oxymoron of authoritarian liberalism.
This is not, repeat NOT, Fascism.
This is American Freedom and Democracy (TM) in action. (Just ignore all the dead bodies strewn across the Ukraine landscap.)
And don’t forget…
God Bless America and God Bless our beloved Troops for spreading liberty to Ukraine, just as they have selflessly done to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya!!!
‘MERICA, F*CK YEAH!
*chants of USA, USA can be heard in background*
Actually, it’s just states pursuing their respective interests at eachothers’ expense, a power struggle at the top of the food chain. The feelings and aspirations of the average citizen hardly matters in this context. It’s secondary at best, so viewing this crises from the perspective of the downtrodden will leave you confused and lost as all sides concerned trod without compassion on the weak.
It’s hard to disagree with HvsR when he compares the Ukrainian war in Donbass with Russia’s war in Chechnya. Unsurprisingly, some readers take issue as for them he’s defending Ukraine.
I see from where he comes, and I, unlike many commenters here (but by no means all), am on the “right”. Might is right defines HvsR’s views on these events, and truth be told, when we throw all morals out of the equation, he’s absolutely correct.
Not to take his side, I must add that he has his biases: perhaps he favors Ukraine, perhaps Russia. If he’s an American who is happy with the course of his country, he may favor Ukraine, in line with the American government. The other alternative is that he just doesn’t care, but I doubt it, after all, he posts in this alternative website so what is going on is a matter of interest to him.
As to whether the Ukrainian government is fascist or not, I say they are not, because if they were the “real deal”, I know that the West, led by the US and the UK, would not be supporting the fascists in power. The elites of the United States and the United Kingdom, with Jews at the top, represented by their vast influence in the media, the Fed and the banking dynasties, are hostile to the culture and peoples of the West and Eastern Europe, though it will take some time for them to impose a culture of self-hatred in Eastern Europeans, as well as bring them to the advanced state of racial dispossession we witness in many nations of the West today, nations that the leftists call “fascists” (what “fascist” would bring so many racial aliens as to make the name Mohammed and its spelling variations the most common name for baby boys in London is not told). Who are the fascists, they don’t tell. Are they the elites and their collaborators in high places, or the average citizen? Nussiminen alternates the definition of fascism, sometimes it applies to the elites, sometimes to the “rabble” (the working class):
What a mess! The “typical Western petty bourgeoius” is an ivory-tower liberal who hates the unlightened “xenophobe” as much as Nussiminen does, while the modest worker, indeed, the majority of the population, is against the tide of immigration. You don’t blame the victim for speaking out against their dispossession. When a liberal supports Ukraine over Russia, it’s because he or she knows who the string-pullers in Kiev are, and who their heart (and in many cases, passports) are with. The liberal sees the US interests in Ukraine as their own, because in the coming years, they hope that the US-exported liberasty will prevail in a kulturkampf against the liberals’ most feared enemy: Russia, which they see as “white” and too conservative. An enemy close to home, in other words. Though the liberals hate everything that the Ukrainian nationalists stand for, they support Ukraine because the current Ukrainian elite aspires to become “more like them”. When the SBU had a leaflet alerting the people of Ukraine that being a xenophobe, an anti-semite or a racist is a separatist trait, don’t think for a moment that leaflet was conjured up by a hardcore Banderite ideologue, rather, it came from the curators of the Ukrainian government, hundreds of whom reside in Kiev. This is the shape of things to come.
Just look at the streets of Paris, London, Amsterdam, Brussels, Rome, Stockholm, Berlin and compare them to Bucharest, Tallinn, Prague, Warsaw, Kiev, Sofia and Budapest. It is no wonder that nationalists in the West see Russia positively, and liberals hate it.
Ukrainians are brainwashed and sold a false idea that they will become “more European”, when Western Europe itself is becoming less European by the year. An European Union without Europeans is worthless.
Who did a better job at maintaining the demographic integrity of Europe, and thus the survival of Europeans, in the last 6 decades: the NATO (US)-led alliance, dominated by Zionist interests and cultural sensibilities (including historical prejudices), or the Soviet Union, with Russia as its hegemon?
The reasons the US prevailed in the past century are many, including its unique geography and political structure, but the primary element was its human capital and the relative freedom to channel said capital. As Prof. Kevin MacDonald wrote in his The Culture of Critique series, the Jews displaced the former WASP elite, a process that accelerated with the counter-cultural revolution of the 60s. It took the US over 350 years to become a solid majority white country, with whites representing ~90% of the population in 1960, but less than 50 years since the Immigration Act of 1965 for white birth to become a minority — which happened in 2011, for the first time since the independence of the United States. Among newborns, whites are already a minority, though their overall share of the population remains at ~60%. The demographic bomb has been planted, and this ~60% figure won’t last another two decades.
Russia must play wise. If it could convince a high-ranking intelligence official to defect and accuse the US of leading the cultural war, with the hostile intent of bringing about the dispossession and eventual demise of the white race, it would immediately send shockwaves across the West, because many Westerners are not enamoured by the prospect of racial dispossession, with them as victims. Naturally, immigration is a hot topic in elections, losing only to the subject of economy. This type of accusation by Russia would be novel compared to its past denunciations. A high-ranking military officer would be especially good. Just think if a top hat said that it’s not worth fighting to defend a government that hates your people. A good strategy would be to develop and advance what so far does not exist, namely the concept of racial rights, which can be defined as the right to demographic integrity and self-rule of a given race (“a people sharing a common descent or bond together by genetic similiarity due to their evolutionary past”). Racial rights are the lynchpin of any people’s continued existence and renewal, whose violation means the targeted race’s demographic integrity and posteriority are under attack, and those doing the attack or supporting it are our enemies, someone we with conscience don’t fight to defend.
PS: with the loss of human capital in the United States, distribution of wealth is but assured, and here lies another powerful stick to beat the US government with. Those at the receiving end of the distribution won’t be Middle America.
I can’t quite figure out whether this post is racist or not, but I am letting it through, and ask readers to give advice. Here is from the last paragraphs:
“….A good strategy would be to develop and advance what so far does not exist, namely the concept of racial rights, which can be defined as the right to demographic integrity and self-rule of a given race (“a people sharing a common descent or bond together by genetic similiarity due to their evolutionary past”). Racial rights are the lynchpin of any people’s continued existence and renewal, whose violation means the targeted race’s demographic integrity and posteriority are under attack, and those doing the attack or supporting it are our enemies, someone we with conscience don’t fight to defend.”
Racist.
Do we for example define the rights of the people of Ukraine as the rights of all the peoples that live there, including ethnic Russians and Hungarians, Jews and Romany? Or the right of the “ethnic Ukrainians” whatever that means to protect themselves from all the others who have somehow infringed on their land and diluted their identity?
Equating the rights of oppressed minorities to combine in self defense (e.g. calling it “Black racism”) with the rights of dominant majorities to oppress them is always a dangerous path. The only path forward for humanity is the broadest unity of all regular people against the banksters, the Empire builders and all their agents, stooges and flaks.
Racism exists when the racial rights of a race are violated. You don’t end racism by supporting the racial dispossession of an entire people, just like you don’t fight socialism by violating workers’ rights or feminism by denying women their rights.
You must recognise that the targeted people who are to be displaced, replaced and eventually meet extinction are victims, not perpetrators, and a campaign of consciousness among the aliens must explain to them that they are active participants in the dispossession of the native Indo-European peoples they inserted themselves into, and that by being willing participants in the war against the existence of the Indo-Europeans, whose posteriority they threaten to disrupt, they put themselves in danger.
@C
Most of these are native to the lands they inhabit, and very close to their ethnic counsins. I’m not talking about racial purity in countries like Russia with its many native minorities or other Indo-European ethnicities (save the Romany) in countries like Ukraine. For God’s sake, Ukraine is a very homogeneous country. What you witness in Ukraine is more due to culture, history and ideology than ethnicity. Put 10 Eastern Ukrainians and 10 Western Ukrainians together and you won’t be able to tell them apart.
Whites fought to end the institution of slavery, not to bond themselves with the negro to the detriment of their own existence. Lincoln said so.
If a charter of racial rights is adopted and enforced, there won’t be “oppressed minorities” because they won’t need to live among their “oppressors”. Unless liberals force us to live with them, like this:
http://users.design.ucla.edu/~leo18chan/jazz/girlsbayonets1957schoolyearindepth.gif
Forced Integration Little Rock Arkansas 1957
“As to whether the Ukrainian government is fascist or not, I say they are not, because if they were the “real deal”, I know that the West, led by the US and the UK, would not be supporting the fascists in power. ”
At this point i gave up on serious reading of your comment. You asked many questions but answered few. What are you implying with them is unclear.
Thanks for proving my point, Monz. Your sentiments are exactly what, in my opinion, keeps fuelling fascist resurgence in the Western countries. To put it bluntly, this kind of bigotry really boils down to a craven — utterly futile — plea to the ruling plutocracy for “Imperialism Without Immigrants and Refugees” = The wonderful way it used to be.
As for your statement Who are the fascists, they don’t tell. Are they the elites and their collaborators in high places, or the average citizen?, it’s a no-brainer. Fascist conspiracies, of course, take place within sections of the elites, conveniently knowing very well indeed their “reliable collaborators in high places”. Lastly, “the average citizen” becomes increasingly fascist-minded if sufficiently beguiled by people with money and power. That’s precisely the monarchist mindset of the petty bourgeoisie/middle classes.
Is the Kiev regime a…
— junta installed by a coup d’etat? Check!
— repressive, murderous, ethnic cleansing-minded military dictatorship? Triple Check!
— fascist state? Not exactly.
I realize that it share some similarities with a fascist regime, as it does with just about ANY military dictatorship installed by an oligarchy; and (b) that it is hugely expedient politically for Russia to so describe it, especially domestically.
On the other hand I also realize why this so-called fascism fails to alarm Israel and Jews in general.
The Kiev regime has the plausible operetta costumes and rhetoric of the banderistas but its “fascism” could not be more different than that of Nazi Germany:
Nazi Germany performed a stupendous economic miracle rising form the ashes of complete economic collapse in a few short years, eliminated its external debt, achieved full employment, constructed amazing infrastructure that still serves today (the Autobahn) and had a huge popular approval, and it did all this in the teeth of total blockade from the West. The investments of the corporations were all made in and for Germany. No flight of capital.
Ukraine, by contrast, is a failed state, in dire economic straits, rampant inflation, crushing external debt, dying or dead industry, social turmoil (not counting East Ukraine), political instability with inter-shark fights at the top, and it achieved all this with the full support of the West. The oligarchs do not seem to fork over any capital towards any public works in Ukraine and there are reports that all of Ukraine’s gold has already been carted out.
Unless the word “fascist” is used just to express the idea of a very, very very bad junta regime we very, very very much loath, and not as a specific term with historical connotations, we may as well try to find another.
I think Ukraine is an example of “failed Fascism”.
Mussolini, who damn near invented it, gave Fascism’s original definition as the marriage of Corporate and Political power.
This a very narrow, and unstable power base. By combining extreme treatment of dissidents with a virulent combination of Nationalism and Militarism, Fascism sought to widen it. In Hitler’s case, he did one better by orchestrating an economic expansion that brought Johannes 6-pack enthusiastically on board.
If we’re looking at Ukraine, we can replace “Corporate” with “Oligarchical” and we’re almost in the same place, except for the fact that they blew it. They got the combination of Political & Oligarchical power right, as well as the Nationalism and extreme treatment of dissidents but, as you correctly point out, the economic expansion is missing, and so is the Military. Ergo, the power base remains unstable and that’s why they’ve gone begging for help in foreign capitals.
Organized dissidents destroyed the Military. The economy is on the highway to hell, and even the Oligarchs are losing money. Nationalism, even augmented by outside support, would never have been enough, and even that is losing its shine. They are reduced to State terror, vulnerable to a people’s uprising. One can only hope it doesn’t last much longer.
Unless the word “fascist” is used just to express the idea of a very, very very bad junta regime we very, very very much loath, and not as a specific term with historical connotations, we may as well try to find another.
Granted, the word is being used without much thought in many cases. I think adding a dose of sarcasm would be fine, substituting “Western Democratic” for “Fascist” (adjective). It’s high past time the nostrums of our rulers are greeted with contempt and ridicule rather than superstitious reverence.
@Anonymous on April 28, 2015 · at 3:26
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Hi H.A.L.!
“However to some they appear threatening
like those bad boys/girls mama advised
them not to play with. ”
To the tortured, maimed and dead they have rather more than the ‘appearance’ of threat.
“That is generally good advice to be heeded,
since the naive often just get in the way and
become “martyrs”. ”
Confronting evil is not remotely analogous to ‘playing’, H.A.L. It is deadly serious.
Sometimes the only choice is refusal, unless you want to ‘live’ on your knees. Some, like a recently-murdered Ukrainian writer choose to be refuseniks, not because they’re ‘naive’, but because they are fully cognizant of probable consequence. Intellectual prostitution – ‘living a lie’ – is the death of mind. Some will choose the body instead.
You might consider extending your avowed utility doctrine to ‘how to’, instead of restricting your contributons to ‘what is (allegedly wrong/ non-utilitarian)’.
Coz – Holy Jumping Bots, Batman! – how come the Riddler never comes up with *solutions*?
“how come the Riddler never comes up with *solutions*”
1. A blog is a broadcast medium.
2. Anonymous serves purposes of which you are probably unaware.
3. Spoon feeding replicates the ideologies/practices of the exceptionalists reinforcing bases for their continued existence.
4. The purpose is to encourage catalysation of lateral challenge.
5. The purpose is not restricted to broadcasting on blogs.
“not because they’re ‘naive’”
Perhaps their naivety was exhibited in the way they chose to exhibit their refusenikness, even if they believed that such was restricted to “friends” who denounced them.
Perhaps their naivety was also exhibited by their belief that in specific circumstances they could “make a difference.”
Perhaps a third exhibition of their naivety was in failing to perceive specific circumstances governing which battles to engage in and how.
“To the tortured, maimed and dead they have rather more than the ‘appearance’ of threat. ”
Torture and maiming often are used to attempt to have the person/(s) subjected to these practices subsume a “controlling” inchoate threat – an appearance of threat, however this is not always successful, but this information is not widely distributed.
You may hold notions of deism and afterlife, but not all do, and hence some would likely respond the dead are dead and likely unaware of appearances or actions of any kind..
“Confronting evil is not remotely analogous to ‘playing’,”
Leaving aside the notion of evil – often an incantation of the passive, confronting possible mortal threat in naive ways is playing, which often leads to “martyrdom” not only of self, although the half-lifes of notions of martyrdom has utility as illustrated by the question:
“Whatever happened to Stepan Bandera”.
“Sometimes the only choice is refusal, unless you want to ‘live’ on your knees”
It would appear that you have limited experience of designing and implementing strategies, as well as a predeliction for false binaries.
“Intellectual prostitution – ‘living a lie’ – is the death of mind. Some will choose the body instead.”
This returns to the deist point and the response of some may be that the mind and body are connected. One potential strategy is well worn, in Russian it is called writing for the drawer.
thanks for posting this great article by a great Russian. I sent it to 4 of my friends and one has already thanked me.
Stop lie
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Is anyone else getting sick of the words “fascist” “nazi” and “junta”? We need to be a little more creative guys. I know these words are dog whistles, particularly with patriotic slavs, but in Western discourse these words are next to meaningless. A man who doesn’t approve of sodomy is a “fascist” in America; a person who opposes Israeli occupation of the US Congress is a “nazi” and so on. So, speaking personally, over the last ten years I have been called a “fascist” and a “nazi” simply for being a traditionalist, and you know what? I have come to EMBRACE those terms as badges of social honor. If you’re not being called a “nazi” in liberal America, then you’re doing something wrong. Saker, you must understand that when you use these terms before a Western audience that is not already on your side, you make their brains switch off because the term “Nazi” doesn’t mean anything to them anymore because it has been drummed into their ears endlessly and used to refer to everyone that anyone ever had a political disagreement with. You need to find a new word if you want to reach Westerners that are not already 100% behind you. This isn’t a minor issue either, given that you’re involved in “messeging”. Bandying the term “Nazi” about – even when objectively accurate in the case of Ukraine – is great for getting Russians’ attention, but absolutely useless (worse than useless) for getting Americans’ attention.
And that is the other tragedy of the events of the maidan: namely: that it channeled the actin into a fratricidal war against the will of the involved inhabitants – instead focusing on their REAL e.
action and enemies respectively, sorry, phone keyboard.
For the mod, here is the definition I was referring to concerning the post made by….Metz…I believe
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/whatisit.html
“Bandying the term “Nazi” about – even when objectively accurate in the case of Ukraine – is great for getting Russians’ attention, but absolutely useless (worse than useless) for getting Americans’ attention.”
Assigning labels without definition and posing historical analogies is a deflection strategy even if self-defined and implemented. Such practices are generally encouraged covertly.
They deny lateral development and limit perceptions necessary to transcend the opponents, including removing the environment/nutrients upon which they feed/mutate, and removing the spores facilitating their mutated emergence.
This is a lateral process and failure to implement this after the various wars in “Ukraine” from 1939 to circa 1953 is a significant contribution to why a current slogan is, “Glory to the heroes”.
Some have posed reasons for the return of Crimea, whilst apparently giving less emphasis to why in 1954 did Mr. Krushchev and others transfer Crimea into the Ukrainian SSR?
Like notions of 5th columns, assigning labels without definition and posing historical analogies subliminally create opportunities for group-hate sessions, anger disspitation, notions of exceptionalism/superiority, relex behaviours, and aid ideological/operational coalescences of opponents.
Opponents can only be transcended in the specific, not the general.
Evaluation is a function of purpose and hence for some purposes assigning labels without definition and posing historical analogies can be self-defeating.
Thank you Mr Starikov for your piece.
It is utterly disgraceful that this is going on right in front of our eyes and the silence and cover-up by the West is appalling – esp. the EU.
This is a US backed Junta. It is so deeply, deeply sad especially when reading through all the deaths and how a small minority is causing this hatred, destruction and death :(.
Many still never seem to learn and history keeps repeating itself……
Rgds,
Veritas
“Many still never seem to learn and history keeps repeating itself…”
If so where can I find the dinosaurs?
Zionazis/nazis do not like dissent. I’m looking forward to the days when they themselves get the same treatment their predecessors got from the USSR.
That’s the best definition of fascism I’ve ever read. But can you please make the etymological link? If my Latin serves me I think the root is “fasces.”
You are absolutely right. Note that the fasces (a symbol of fascism) are represented on the walls of the Senate in the USA and on some American coins, as well as on both “arms” of the armchair on which Lincoln is seated in that huge sculpture come temple in Washington D.C.
“I think the root is “fasces.”
Both the root and appearance is significant.
The fasces represented the “binding together” – supposed “mutual interest” and “strength in community”, the appearance of which restricted to non-slaves including the “axe” could be sustained in the short-term.
An illusion also useful in its half-life during the Roman Empire, which also had a useful half-life in 1922 and subsequent.
As to circuses, the use of football (soccer), for example Italian teams in the world cups pre-1939, Spanish teams especially Real Madrid in European Cups until 1960 but also including Barcelona, in Argentina, in Brazil, in Chile etc also formed part of displacement/dissipation strategies.
Ideology is always of interest and significance.
In present Ukraine interesting questions include
– Whatever happened to Dynamo Kiev and Shaktar Donetsk ?
or – Why set fire to the Lobanovsky Stadium and not the National Stadium?
or – Is there any connection between the National Stadium in Santiago de Chile and the National Stadium in Kiev?
All liberal reforms, whether in Ukraine, Russia or some other country are clear proof of this. They are carried out for “prosperity” and “development” but end with a fall in the standard of living and the closure of businesses.
I beg to differ. Of course, “liberal” in politics has a completely different meaning in Europe (where it represents the right-wing) than in the USA. In Europe, and especially in Scandinavian countries ans Switzerland, the “liberals” (in the US sense) have made these countries particularly prosperous and provided great advantages to the people, among which an excellent social safety net for the most vulnerable, especially in Switzerland.