June 5th combat SITREP update by “Juan”
- Красный Лиман Krasni Liman was taken by Ukraine Army and national guard 04 June 2014.
- Replacement Mi24 attack helicopters have arrived in Ukraine as replacements for the Ukraine Army losses in Donbas. Confirmed.
- Strong bombardments Slavyansk City and outlying towns and villages commenced 05:00 local time 05.06.2014. Civilian casualties unknown.
- National guard/right sector entered Railroad Hospital Krasni Liman and shot dead 37 wounded Donbas Army soldiers and civilians and at least 1 hospital worker. Confirmed.
- Air and artillery bombardments Krasni Liman cause strong civilian casualties 04.06.2014.
- List of dead air attack on Lugansk Administration Building:
- Kostjukov Vladimir Andreyevich , 1971 (regional administration)
- Corn Inna (regional administration)
- Giza Alexander (regional administration)
- Unidentified woman
- Dolzenko Nina 1955 (regional administration)
- Polezhaev Sergey 1964 (regional administration)
- Natalia Arkhipova (regional administration)
- Cerkez Galina 1967 (regional administration)
- Confirmed reports national guard/right sector random shooting civilians Krasni Liman and searching residences.
- Border Guard Headquarters and one military base taken by Donbas Army 04.06.2014. Large amounts of weapons and ammunition captured in both bases. Border Guard HQ prisoners allowed to change to civilian clothes and leave base. Prisoners from military base unknown if allowed to leave after surrender.
- Name, rank and unit of Ukraine pilot SU25 attacked Lugansk Administration Building known. Complete conversation of pilot with control before, during and after attack recorded by Donbas Army.
“You do not know how moronic government Poland has and how corrupt.”
06 June, 2014 00:07 Indeed Poland was my first guess for ‘replacements’, BOTH AIRCRAFT AND CREWS. The Baltic states have ground crews but are unlikely to have enough pilots as I doubt they still fly the Su-25/Mi-24. Only Poland would have sufficient manpower for both to keep the Ukrainian Air Force fighting after heavy losses. The Poles also don’t have the language barrier as there are plenty of Polish-speaking interpreters from Lviv unlike say, with Lithuanians or Estonians where the common language would have to be either Russian for older pilots/maintenence crews or English translated by the Ukrainian side!
Despite the DDR having lots of Mi-24s/MiGs stockpiled at the time of its annexation by West Germany these air frames would not be in much better shape even in storage than Ukraine’s own ample stocks of these gunships and Su-25s.
The real shortage is not immediately air frames though Ukraine probably has already lost 10-15% of its prewar flyable fleet of Mi-24s and Su-25s if you consider how many aircraft likely were shot up and had to crash land at base.
The real issue is pilots killed or wounded, plus maintaining adequate ground crews. Which is also where the Poles come in as I simply don’t think Ukraine even with Ukrainian ingenuity has enough ground crews to maintain the current sortie levels, which already seem to have dropped off from the day of the downtown Lugansk air strike. Either at least a handful of pilots have deserted under threat from GRU of personal retaliation by DNR/LNR forces over the war crime their comrade conducted (if the underground can get to one of Poroshenko’s aides they most certainly can shoot dumb bastard Ukrainian pilots in their home towns) or foreign pilots have been brought in to relieve the exhausted Ukrainian pilots.
Nothing does wonders for a pilot’s morale like still smelling the blood & guts of a wounded or departed comrade in the cockpit when starting up rotors or engines after a refitting. The MANPADs won’t have that effect if the pilots can safely eject without catching shrapnel in the legs from engine explosions but ZSUs most definitely can penetrate the armor around the cockpits of Su-25s and Mi-24s hence their switch to higher altitude bombing or rocket launching runs rather than low level strafing.
Sorry to sound so bloody minded, but I don’t have any sympathy left for cretins who shoot rockets at Lugansk civil servants and murdered that woman.
American Kulak
Andrew,
Did you actually lease your land and if so when, or did you buy stock in a shale extraction firm? We live in a shale state and most of the people who leased their land aren’t getting the ongoing fees they were led to expect (lots of chicanery there too, but lots of people signed without fully understanding the fine print — or how it could be abrogated). Also, shale gas wells produce most of their gas within the first year or so, and also many companies are slowing production in the hopes of getting higher prices later, or front-loading and drilling now just to keep up the cash flow. Also once that land is leased and drilled, it’s pretty well shot for anything else. So a lot of people here who thought they’d be living high off the hog… aren’t and they’re not exactly happy campers. Plus the water problems — the process requires an inordinate amount and injecting both to extract and then dispose both poisons wells and has been found to cause serial earthquakes in both Ohio and Oklahoma. And as for tar sands, well, I’m a lot Native American and I know what’s going on up in Alberta — have you seen what that once-pristine land now looks like? Again, the only way any of this works is if prices are kept high enough, but once that land is ruined, it’s gone forever. And especially up there, the people who have lived on that land for thousands of years are dropping like flies from all the carcinogenic compounds used in the process.
I don’t know enough about the oil reserve/production situation to comment intelligently so I’ll shut up now! :~) And I still don’t really understand (my bad) your last sentence, except maybe that China is pretty well stuck? Or have I got that wrong too?
Last links for tonight:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s21jfc
DNR/LNR sources (Strelkov?) say dozens of UKR dead piling up around Krasny Liman, losses were heavy in trying to storm that town and the effort apparently failed with UKR Nazi Guard retreating. Combatant casualties tend to be wildly inflated by both sides but consider UKR news story about Kiev hiding its dozens of wounded being flown in daily and that would be consistent with the type of ambush and run fighting described above.
Kidnapping local men and using them as either human shields or Shanghai’d reluctant combatants or in a bid to terrorize the locals would be just like the Death Squad tactics used in Central America/Colombia’s dirty wars.
https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/474676569974505472
1,500 regular Ukrainian army troops reportedly mutiny, refuse orders to advance in Dnepropetrovsk. Not all is well in Ihor K’s fiefdom and he may very well have to call back Right Sector minions to quell the insurrection and shoot a few UKR Army troops pour encourager les autres.
https://twitter.com/gbazov/status/474689747558752256
Strelkov says UKR heli losses continue to mount with 3 downed and 1 seriously damaged into emergency landing (2 Mi-24s shot down and 1 Mi-8 forced landing), plus two Su-25 ground attack jets. I think at this rate with the IGLA S deadly UV equipped seeker heads doing their grisly work it’s only a matter of time before somebody starts reporting a rumor about dead or seriously injured Polish pilots back in Warsaw or Krakow.
Strelkov also somewhat amusingly urged the LNR reinforcements to get on with heading his way, he jokingly suggested they were too busy making YouTube videos about training their new recruits. Me thinks Strelkov is again projecting weakness in hopes that the bigger stuff that just rolled in from Russia including BTRs and Kamaz trucks that can tow NAF arty will arrive sooner rather than later driving by night.
American Kulak
Fantastic posts, Andrew. Thanks for taking the time.
-ee
By the way BOPOH, whatever you said about Novorissia, right or wrong, if Mr. Putin and his advisers did not thought about it, or some thing similar as a possibility before he open his big mouth, then, they are incompetent.
http://donnews.ru/V-TSRB-Kuybyshevskogo-rayona-dostavleny-ranenye-na-granitse-ukraintsy_15636
Ru media near Ukrainian border crossing fight says UKR jet violated Russian air space. No RU boots on the ground or no fly zone but it’s time to put some mobile SAMs near these border crossing points and start running combat air patrols so the next Su-25 that crosses into Russian air space gets blasted from the skies.
AK
@American Kulak,
Thank you for rebutting Andrew’s posts. Something didn’t sound right about his comments, although he was smooth.
I am not the brightest, but I do understand reality, and a debt based economy is doomed to failure, because infinte growth in a finite system is NOT possible. There is always a new game in town, but eventually the bill comes due. Extend and pretend which the U.S. has been engaged in since 2008, only leads to a more severe reckoning.
I still read on popular blogs they are toying with the “trillion dollar coin” theory. I will drive to Florida and start swimming towards Cuba, should they implement that idea.
Andrew lost me when he claimed America would rebuild and restart its manufacturing base. Can you say “Detroit”? I don’t think America makes anything anymore except war and propaganda. Here in Alabama, we have Honda plants. So I agree that U.S. manufacturing will not resume until we have been driven to 4th world wages and working conditions. I don’t think even the American Sheeple will stand for that. (was in line at the grocery today and a girl was complaining about having to spend her money on food cuz she ran out of food stamps….)
A lot of Americans are truly stupid, but even more are simply misinformed.
It is coming, Americans are going to face a reality check of extreme consequence. Many will die, rightly so if you believe Darwin.
I don’t want to stay off topic because I respect Saker’s work here, but economically speaking, the parasites who create nothing have been feasting too long, and the working/struggling class have been fools to let them. The bill will come due and the bill will be paid.
Also, “Hi Nora”. :)
@ Andrew: Heads Up – as the multi-polar world unfolds, the West has moved East.
For your reading pleasure “ the great Escape from the US dollar”
1. LEAP2020.eu public announcement and by subscription –
The US, the sick man of the world – diplomacy and military omnipresence as a cover-up
The US has now set out to destroy the world geopolitical, diplomatic and commercial game as the final solution to keep its dominant status and continue to impose its rules, to live beyond its means and deny the new realities…subscribe http://www.leap2020.eu/English_r25.html
2. “The Renminbi Clearing Solution”: Dollar Hegemony Challenged by China and Germany http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-renminbi-clearing-solution-dollar-hegemony-challenged-by-china-and-germany/5376260
“The word dollar didn’t even come up. “The volume of transactions that can be carried out in the Chinese currency in international and German financial centers is not commensurate with China’s importance in the global economy,” the Bundesbank explained in its dry manner on Friday in Berlin, after signing a memorandum of understanding with the People’s Bank of China. President Xi Jinping and Chancellor Angela Merkel were looking on. It was serious business. Everyone knew what this was about. No one had to say it.
The agreement spelled out how the two central banks would cooperate on the clearing and settlement of payments denominated in renminbi – to get away from the dollar’s hegemony as payments currency and as reserve currency.”
3. Russia Holds “De-Dollarization Meeting”: China, Iran Willing To Drop USD From Bilateral Tradehttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/russia-holds-de-dollarization-meeting-china-iran-willing-drop-usd-bilateral-trade
40 Central Banks Are Betting This Will Be The Next Reserve Currency
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-08/40-central-banks-are-betting-will-be-next-reserve-currency
Headline after headlines shows nations declaring ‘interest’ or direct discussions in diversifying away from the US dollar… and as SCMP reports, Standard Chartered notes that at least 40 central banks have invested in the Yuan and several more are preparing to do so. The trend is occurring across both emerging markets and developed nation central banks diversifiying into ‘other currencies’ and “a great number of central banks are in the process of adding yuan to their portfolios.” Perhaps most ominously, for king dollar, is the former-IMF manager’s warning that “The Yuan may become a de facto reserve currency before it is fully convertible.”
The Wend,
I found the original Russian text by Alexander Dugin that was referred to here: http://www.odnako.org/blogs/vvedenie-voysk-i-semantika-russkogo-vremeni/
From the way he is framed in the beginning in the link you provided (https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/a.1462094710680543.1073741828.1452285018328179/1507859116104102/?type=1&theater ) one could get the impression that Dugin is a pessimist which believes in Russia and Putin’s inevitable doom. That is not his position. Yes, he thinks the situation now is risky, and that Russian military intervention is necessary, but he also believes there will be an intervention, and that there will be a favorable outcome.
A newer text by Dugin, that further clarifies his views about Putin and the choices facing him now is published here (In Russian): http://evrazia.org/article/2536
For an English introduction to Dugin’s thoughts about the ideological dimension of the Ukrainian crisis I can recommend this link:
http://4pt.su/en/content/war-russia-its-ideological-dimension
Nora wrote: “I thought Dugin was pretty much a misinformation artist. No?”
No. There is a lot of misinformation about Alexander Dugin, so it’s a good idea to read the original sources if one wants to understand his position. Dugin is a traditionalist and philosopher, with principles organically connected together in a firm world view, who often expresses himself in unexpected and polemical ways that collides with the politically correct discourse. It’s not very difficult to copy and paste some of his words and create one’s own (often scary and misleading) stories out of them. Understanding him demands a bit more, but it is well worth the time.
One can disagree with Dugin’s weltanschauung, goals, or strategy, but if one spends some time reading his actual words there should not be any question about his intellectual honesty.
Andrew,
“When a budget deficit is run, the people have an excess of dollars to spend.” If spending exceeds revenues, extra money is being put into circulation? How do I get extra money just because there’s a deficit? The money theoretically gets recirculated but it always seems to circulate right to the top, and they don’t necessarily spend, or provide money for investment. They just hold it. I mean, it sounds great in theory but doesn’t seem to be working very well for the American people at the moment. No?
Why do foreign countries need to *borrow* dollars to accomplish their goals? Also — another dumb question — if deficits are so bad (and I’m not convinced they are), why do foreign countries want deficits?
Why will Russia’s ability to equal the US as a place people want to sell goods to and invest their money in take 50-100 years? Also, wouldn’t the increasing impoverishment of the American public affect this competition too? Wal-Mart is not doing well because people can’t afford to buy stuff. That’s really not a very good sign. If people don’t have jobs, they can’t buy Chinese goods.
American Kulak
You were on fire tonight. Really good stuff. Thank you.
Now, re: more economics. I can remember debating the gold standard with my father 50 years ago — and I still don’t understand it worth beans. It just seems to me people fall into one of two ideological camps, you either believe in it or you don’t. And I’ve got to say, I AM relativistic on this one — I can see merit in both approaches but remain utterly clueless as to which is right. Will we collapse? What does that mean? What does seem obvious is that people are losing their jobs, their homes and their ability to contribute money back into the economy by spending, while the 1%, and others who live off their investments, are doing quite nicely at the moment. This does not seem sustainable.
So I’m kind of where you are, except maybe not, bc I don’t quite grasp what you’re saying here:
“That’s where the Fed, in order to slow already runaway food inflation (thanks in part to the super California drought) has to ‘sanitize’ or ‘disarm’ those Treasuries coming home and prevent them from entering the general money supply. The Fed does this by adding to its balance sheet via QE forever. But as Paul Craig Roberts has pointed out the end of the petrodollar with Saudi/Qatar and other nations demanding their own or other currencies for energy leaves the Fed trying to absorb an impossible amount of dollars. It also accelerates the death spiral of foreign creditors becoming more concerned about the Fed’s balance sheet size and how many Treasuries it is buying to ‘monetize the debt’, acclerating the collapse.”
Thanks a lot Juan, stay safe and total respect for those on the front lines against the nwo.
One tactic I think Russia should consider is the old US trick of offering lots of money to defecting pilots. (assuming the pilots are Ukrainian and not Polish or something else) Offer citizenship and asylum for the pilot and their families.
This should have a strong effect as I doubt the Junta trusts their troops. They will have to take all sorts of precautions and threaten families, which can only make moral spiral lower. And if some pilots do defect, the propaganda victory would be priceless.
A more aggressive, perhaps too risky, tactic would be to pull an Erdoghan and shoot down a Ukie plane claiming it “violated Russian airspace.” It creates a defacto no fly zone close to the Russian border.
I agree that overt intervention is too costly and risky and Russia has to conserve its resources for what will be a long struggle against the Anglo-Zionist NWO. At the same time, we really need Russia to win in Ukraine.
The video of the alleged execution by Bezler’s men of two UKR POWs:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=328_1401995072
If this is legit, then Bezler is bloody stupid for doing this, and even more stupid for filming it.
The POWs under custody presented no threat for the militiamen. They were executed because Turchita refused to do a POWs’ swap that he previously agreed on. This type of action just exacerbate the situation in the country. It’s falling to junta standard of behavior.
The only “positive” side-effect is that this video may stoke fear in draftees and make them desert the junta army.
It is not the first time that Bezler aka Bes is executing Ukrainian service men.
The attack on Volkhovakha was perpetrated by his group.
As a brief reminder: the action in Volkhovakha was directed against Ukrainian soldiers manning a check-point, these soldiers have negotiated a ceasefire with DPR militants and agreed not to shoot at each other and not to try attacking each others positions.
Then Bezler and his unit came in by night and attacked the check-point killing the majority of the Ukrainian servicemen.
Initial reports blamed Kolomoiskyi units and Pravyi Sektor for a punitive action against soldiers who refused to fight.
But Bezler claimed the attack on Volkhovakha and Strelkov confirmed it.
Of note, Saker on this very blogue refused to correct the “Kolomoiskyi” version.
I wonder if Bezler is some sort of Donbass Raduev/Basaev, or if he is simply an agent provocateur.
Early in the DPR militias creation process, he lied on camera pretending that he is a Russian special forces colonel.
However, later on it was shown that before the current events in Donbass, he was a local mobster in Gorlovka, who has previously worked as an undertaker…
A must read on how US plans to redistribute Europe enery market, the role of Iran in providing oil to the Europe and the threat to Russia.
http://journal-neo.org/2014/06/06/rus-ssha-py-tayutsya-organizovat-peredel-evropejskogo-e-nergeticheskogo-ry-nka/
Who’s winning the battle, Putin or Obama?
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/06/04/no_bluff_putin_russia_ukraine_obama_tom_friedman
Guru @ 15:46 said:
“The entire civil war script was copied from Yugoslavia, apart that Yanukovich escaped, so Putin has to substitute for Milošević. “
I’ve come to the same conclusion, and told RT as much a few weeks back. Trouble is, Milošević accepted the Western frame and tried to mount a “no, I’m not” defense – which availed him not a bit, and cost the Trans-Drina Serbs dearly.
I agree, Serbian Kraina and SE Ukraine are following the same pattern.
American Kulak wrote: “A sovereign that prints it’s own money can’t go bankrupt, you say? Tell that to Weimar Germany. The Fed would never lose control, you say? Russia and China would never dump their Treasuries and take a bath on their value you say? Then tell us who if not Russia dumped $110 billion worth of Treasuries in the last 3 months that was scooped up by Belgium. Yes, Belgium, home of NATO and the European Commission/Parliament, and likely straw buyer for the Fed, just like Japan.”
Doesn’t this prove the point? Dumping treasuries requires a buyer. So the impact is never going to be that large to begin with, although admittedly a mass sell-off would affect the exchange rate. Still, to whatever extent dumping treasuries affects the value of the dollar, all this accomplishes is a shift in the domestic economy away from imports and towards exports, as the latter become more desirable (cheaper) to the rest of the world. And for the reasons Andrew explained, China has no interest in dumping treasuries, precisely because it desires to sell goods to the American market rather than compete against it. As long as China wants to sell to the US, then it must receive dollars. And if it receives dollars, it must do something with those dollars, which is why it buys treasuries to begin with. Americans are the beneficiaries of this scheme. We receive real goods and the Chinese receive green bits of paper (which they then exchange for a “treasury,” another bit of paper).
It is absolutely true that the US cannot go financially bankrupt, and this is an important point for anybody to understand no matter what their politics because it is empirically true. It is correct to say that a country can render its currency worthless, but the US is in absolutely no danger of that. Most, if not all, instances of hyperinflation in the word are a result of sharp and sudden declines in productive capacity and not, contrary to popular belief, “printing” money. If anything, the US is not printing (i.e., spending) enough money to keep its domestic economy at full employment. It has spending capacity, and mass treasury dumps (1) aren’t going to happen and (2) even if they do, aren’t going to change that.
American Kulak wrote: “The US economy is too productive to experience true hyperinflation? The Fed is too disciplined? Perhaps so, but that outcome can likely only be avoided with a ‘one-time’ shock devaluation. You’re forgetting that a Great Depression 2.0 deflation in prices while the monetary base is devalued (30% bath on all gold FDR’s Fed ordered citizens on pain of arrest to surrender) is the alternative to massive money printing.”
The US is not on a gold standard, which is what your reasoning implies. All of its money is “printed.” And it is in fact economically desirable for the amount that is “printed” not to remain steady but to increase over time (as the population and economy grow). Even if the US began to experience inflation, which there is no reason to believe it will now or anytime in the foreseeable future, it can curb inflation through simple tax increases. (Spending money = money creation; taxing money = money destruction.) The US does not need to undergo devaluation precisely because it uses a fiat monetary system that floats on an exchange. It controls the amount of dollars in the system at any given time and can spend more (“print”) dollars or tax more (“destroy”) dollars as economic circumstances dictate. This flexibility is exactly what the European nations who joined the European Monetary Union foolishly gave up. (The EMU is a neoliberal scheme designed to destroy European welfare states by imposing financial constraints on governments.)
-ee
(Continued)
American Kulak wrote: “either 1) wages rise with inflation as happened somewhat during the 1960s early 70s when unions were still strong in the US 2) wages may buy more with the cost of real estate finally being allowed to collapse to affordable levels so Millenials can buy homes or at least cheap condos rather than living with their parents for life 3) as you alluded to, that ‘production returns’ BUT ONLY WHEN American labor becomes some of the cheapest on the planet compared to its level of productivity! And this via ‘we’re just going to kill the dollar’ — attributed to Tim Geithner is the PLAN! The Chinese are going to colonize US and make us their cheap labor force!”
I think you don’t understand the reason why production would return—really, would simply increase—in the event that the US dollar lost value relative to other currencies. Production would return via market forces without regard to the price of American labor for the simple reason that demand for American exports would rise. As that demand rises, American producers of good suitable for export would try to produce more goods to meet the demand, and they would pay whatever the going rate for labor in the US is at the time.
The monetary system in the US changed in 1971, and this must be understood and taken into account when one seeks to analyze anything having to do with the US economy or its currency. It is critical to understand this, because by not understanding it we not only get our analyses of global issues wrong, we also forfeit so many policy options that will advance our society.
-ee
Nora,
1) “Now, re: more economics. I can remember debating the gold standard with my father 50 years ago — and I still don’t understand it worth beans.” I think this sentence accurately describes where most Americans are.
Most Americans inherently understand that contra Andrew, there is no ‘something for nothing’ and the act of government spending by itself does not create wealth. Nor are dollars guaranteed to be accepted just for existing so long as the USA exists — there is at some point a breaking point!
Otherwise why should anybody bother to pay income taxes if the Fed could just buy enough Treasuries every year to cover the entire national debt and spending minus land use fees, federal excise taxes (like on cellphone service, for example, thank you Al Gore) and customs duties?
We can’t say exactly when it will happen but I’m convinced with Dmitry Orlov and others the Western monetary fiat-based system collapse is a matter of years not decades. 2008 was the first hiccup, the next crisis we have in late 2014 or more likely 2015-16 entering the presidential election year will be the decisive inflection point. Ukraine and the desperate effort to develop Ukrainian shale gas even if ethnic cleansing is required on top of it is yet another desperate effort by the NWO to forestall this reckoning and blame it on global conflicts with Russia and China (and Brazil too, get ready for a flood of bad publicity about the World Cup that would make a hardcore fake photo tweeting Sochi trashing propagandist blush).
American Kulak
2) And yes, I would support a return to a ‘soft’ gold standard — but I distinction between myself and hard gold and silver = the ONLY true money advocates is that I do not fetishize gold over all other useful commodities, particularly the agricultural ones and their necessary inputs (eg land, rain, and human labor) which the U.S., Russia/Ukraine, Canada and Australia all may produce in abundance.
What would a ‘soft’ gold standard alongside a ‘basket of commodities’ approach look like? I believe Russia and China are already well down the road to constructing such a system, whereby yuan-rubles are exchanged for common recurring transactions like oil and gas payments, while gold is a method of ‘keeping score’ as it were and bringing global trade into balance rather than allowing dangerous monster bubbles like the 1993-2008 debt super-cycle to develop.
Did we have recessions and even a few mini-depressions in the late 19th century age of the Gold Standard’s heyday?
We most certainly did, but their effects were always more short-lived than the Great Depression which the Fed either engineered (to in effect inflate away the overhang debt from WWI) or allowed to happen through bad policy.
The Eurasian Economic zone payments system will be not too dissimilar from the postwar Bretton Woods system which was a period of prosperity, though I cannot explain to the satisfaction of a LaRouchie like Webster Griffin Tarpley why a ‘New Bretton Woods’ created by the U.S. is unfeasible. Suffice to say Tarpley and I could probably agree that the U.S. due to its vast military industrial intelligence empire competing with growing social welfare demands (1/3rd of the country on food stamps) CANNOT maintain the monetary continence necessary to rebuild the confidence such a system would require, even if it wanted to. Tarpley’s solution of abolishing the Fed (which I would support with reservations) and having Congress print up greenbacks as Lincoln did to finance the Civil War is not a cure all either for the problems of inflation or oligarchy (I prefer that term over ‘income inequality’ because even as a an old line conservative ‘mugged by reality’ after being a mainline Republican I can see that oligarchy and oligarchs are a huge global problem, without agreeing with socialists on all of the solutions.
If we cannot peer behind the monetary curtain or we accept the Andrew’s versions of reality that ‘everything is fine with the dollar’ then we cannot understand why any of these things in Syria and Ukraine have been happening or comprehend the NWO/Globalist Oligarchy’s objectives or timetables.
American Kulak
I want to thank Hermit for the link to an essay entitled…The War on Russia in its Ideological Dimension by Alexandr Dugin. Here is a short excerpt….
“We need to consciously counter any provocation to frame Russia as a pre-liberal power. We need to refuse to allow the liberals to save themselves from their fast-approaching end. Rather than helping them to delay it, we need to accelerate it. In order to do this, we need to present Russia not as a pre-liberal entity but as a post-liberal revolutionary force that struggles for an alternative future for all the peoples of the planet. The Russian war will be not only be for Russian national interests, but will be in the cause of a just multipolar world, for real dignity and for real, positive freedom – not (nihilistic) freedom from but (creative) freedom for. In this war, Russia will set an example as the defender of Tradition, conservative organic values, and will represent real liberation from the open society and its beneficiaries – the global financial oligarchy. This war is not against Ukrainians or even against part of the Ukrainian populace. Nor is it against Europe. It is against the liberal world (dis)order. We are not going to save liberalism, per their designs. We are going to kill it once and for all. Modernity was always essentially wrong, and we are now at the terminal point of modernity. For those who rendered modernity and their own destiny synonymous, or who let that occur unconsciously, this will mean the end. But for those who are on the side of eternal truth and of Tradition, of faith, and of the spiritual and immortal human essence, it will be a new beginning, Absolute Beginning. – See more at: http://4pt.su/en/content/war-russia-its-ideological-dimension#sthash.1oWCTdHM.dpuf“
I have followed Dugin for years. Sometimes he writes some crazy stuff, but here he’s spot on. It is time the neoliberal/neoconservative NWO is terminated. Otherwise the biosphere will be destroyed, the noosphere terminally poluted with all the postmodern crap and the human civilisation will loose its potential for evolution and will ultimately perish.
This SHOULD NOT be about Ukraine or NATO only, although the simple fact that such a thing as todays Ukraine exists is proof enough of the genersl state of mankind’s degradation.
This should be about the history of the mankind and our future…
@they are also threatening Putin with a “Moscow maidan” staged by Russians outraged by lack of help for their suffering Donbass brothers
That might be the real intention.
BTW I know of trolls who write some things and then “reply”.
1) ee wrote “most, if not all, instances of hyperinflation in the word are a result of sharp and sudden declines in productive capacity and not, contrary to popular belief, “printing” money.”
Respectfully ee, this is wrong. Yes Weimar Germany was coming out of a war that killed or crippled significant portions of German manhood and left the nation hopelessly indebted to its (mostly US Wall Street) creditors and at the mercy of vengeful victors (who soon found out that they couldn’t mine coal with bayonets in the Ruhr).
So maybe your argument covers Weimar somewhat in that the frantic money printing was Germany’s way of trying to inflate away all of its domestic debts and ‘reset’ domestic prices, with horrific results that no German central banker has ever forgotten (perhaps to the detriment of the Greeks, though the flaw here is in the ludicrous monetary yoke shared by the German Porsche and the Greek oxcart, not in the Germans for refusing to inflate away their currency).
Loss of productive capacity ie too much money chasing too few goods and services might also explain immediate post-Soviet Russia in early 1990s under ‘shock therapy’ (massive deindustrialization and social despair leading to catastrophic demographic effects), though not necessarily the 1998 event, which was linked to the monetary crisis Soros helped kick off in SouthEast Asia.
But what happened to Argentina’s productive capacity in 2000-2001? Or Zimbabwae’s under Mugabe? Or America’s in 1933-34 when FDR employed a 35% sudden devaluation in the dollar while simultaneously embarking on a bizarre campaign of literally destroying produce and paying farmers to farm less to get ag deflation under control? The factories and farms didn’t just disappear (pre mid 30s Dust Bowl)?
Good night all.
American Kulak
American Kulak:
The rest of the marginal wells fracked and refracked are shuttered and money lent to those wildcatters is in essence destroyed
That is a fallacy. Money is only destroyed by taxes. A business going bankrupt does not destroy money. The business borrowed a lot of money from a bank or investors, paid it out for goods and services (and so the money was redeposited in another bank by the recipients or paid to other investors), then it couldn’t pay its obligations to service the debt. Some people win, and some people lose in this situation, but no money was “destroyed” – its just redistributed. The investors are screwed, but the people getting the investors money win, and in the end it was a wash.
American Kulak:
A sovereign that prints it’s own money can’t go bankrupt, you say? Tell that to Weimar Germany.
Weimar Germany owed reparations in gold, not Reichsmarks. The Reichsmark was inflated away trying to obtain the gold and foreign money need to pay the reparations. The Reichsbank would print lots of new notes and use them to purchase physcial gold or trade into foreign currencies, in essence playing a game of hot potato.
US Treasury Debt is denominated in dollars. Any time the US wants to “pay off” the debt, it just needs to credit bondholders with newly created dollars. Since bonds are the equivalent of cash, no new money is created by this operation – the money was created when it was spent and covered by bond issuance.
As long as the US sticks to this system, it cannot by definition go bankrupt, since it always has the ability to create dollars to pay off or service debt.
You seem to be forgetting where dollars come from. Dollars don’t come into existence in China nor do they grow on trees., nor are they collected by taxation. They are created by the US Government, and they are spent into existence by the act of government spending. China obtains dollars to by treasuries by trading goods to the US market in exchange for dollars. It can then choose to either hodl these dollr by investing them in US Debt, or selling the dollars and obtaining some other currency or good for them. No matter what China does, the dollar doesn’t go away.
The very first US Dollars came into existence by monetizing the debt from the War for Independence, and new dollars were then created by offering free coinage at the mint for anyone bringing gold or silver bullion to be assayed, as well as by the seniorage operation of the US Mint purchasing bullion and then coining it into money and collecting the difference in value.
Without the gold standard, this is all now much simpler. The government spends money into existence by sending it in checks to people and businesses which creates bank reserves, then it offers US Treasuries as a way to invest the reserves it just created, and it collects some money back in taxes.
You are overcomplicating the origin of money.
Glad to see. Someone has read Randall Wray on modern money. This has implications for the success of net exporters like China and Russia to replace the dollar.
http://openrevolt.info/2014/05/21/alexander-dugin-donetsk-peoples-republic/
“The Donetsk authorities challenge oligarch Akhmetov and big cosmopolitain business in general. It is really great! Real revolution. Nationalization of the monopolies is accepted as law. It is an incredible turn.”
Nora & American Kulak, I’ve been a long-time reader & contributor to Vineyard’s analysis
American Kulak, I like your military analysis posts but Andrew & ee are correct in their economics –most people in believe in many myths that apply to a gold-standard but not to fiat ones now
Also, there’s a HUGE difference between owing money in currency you do NOT control & can’t create, such as Weimar Germany owing $21+ BILLION per year in war reparations payable only in gold or hard goods or British pounds or French francs (which were all on a gold-standard)
vs.
owing debt in fiat dollars that the US gov can create at the push of a button
&
by law,
all bank debts, loans, mortgages, credit, etc in the US is payable in US dollars –US banks MUST accept US dollars as payment for all credit/debts/mortgages/autoloans, which help keep value & demand for the US dollar up
in
addition to the need for US dollars to pay US taxes, tariffs, & fees
read the short PDF: ‘Seven Deadly Frauds of Economic Policy’ http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf by Bank CEO/economist & billionaire-bond trader Warren Mosler who explains bond & bank monetary operations from the insider’s view of how things really work that dispels myths of economics believed by most –
– from
http://MoslerEconomics.com/ -Daily Insightful & Most Accurate Verifiable Economics Analysis –he’s billions from being middle-class following his own MMT economics advice
And to back up what he writes, verifiable empirical evidence shows NO relationship between interest rates, deficits, nor inflation(which includes food & energy) –from S&P, Bloomberg, CNBC, FoxBUsiness chief economist/analyst Mike Norman http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2011/03/govt-spending-deficits-inflation-and.html
Anon:
Shale is a bubble that will sooner rathen than latter burst. You can’t keep on selling something for less than you pay to produce, even with artificial low interest rates.
The shale bubble already burst in 2011. The drills migrated from the Marcellus and Barnett to the Bakken and Eagle Ford to drill for oil. The market will seek its own equilibrium, and when that price again creates an economical return in shale gas, the drills will return to the fields.
How much % did the US oil increase in a decade (2004-2013), as compared to say, from the beginning of the last century to the 60s?
The price of oil stays in line with the price of gold in dollars for a variety of reasons (dollars equaled gold for the longest time, and oil equals dollars) at a multiple of around 15 to 1. Thus today $100 per barrel oil and $1500 per ounce gold, in the 1980’s $350 per ounce of gold and $25 per barrel of oil and in 1935, $2.50 per barrel oil and $35 per ounce gold.
What really gives a currency value is the production of that nation, and that nation requires it’s currency to buy it’s products
(regardless of reserve currency status –EUROs, yen, yuan, etc all have value because their countries produces things people want & need
&
you need their currency to buy their products from or in their countries) as well as that nation’s currency is needed to pay for taxes & paying off loans/debts, which adds to the currency’s value.
A currency’s value is given value because taxes have to be paid in that currency AND it is based on
&
backed by the production of what the currency can buy, just like gift cards & gift certificates value are based on what the business issuing them produces or sells
That’s why Walmart & Best Buy currency aka as gift cards/gift certificates has the highest value on Ebay vs. some small business that produces things few people want.
Example: in practice in the real world, any currency is backed by the production of what products it can buy..
You could create your own fiat Kulak dollars out of thin air (print Kulak ‘gift certificates’) but no one would want them & no would accept them..
BUT if you invented a potion of youth/immortality that everyone would want
&
you only accepted your fiat Kulak dollars you created as payment for your potion of youth/immortality,
your fiat Kulak dollars now have value that everyone wants since they need it to buy your potion of youth/immortality.
People will want your fiat Kulak dollars & will trade you their goods/services for your fiat Kulak dollars that you spend into existence as you buy their goods.
. you get their goods, they get your Kulak dollars that u paid with… now they have Kulak dollars that they can buy your potion of immortality
ie, your Kulak dollars are backed by the production of your potion of youth/immortality
ie, welcome to the world of currency markets & international trade
Mr. Putin did state he was going to protect Russian anywhere, that is the promise I believe he broke. Have you heard no fly zone? that does not require Russian cross border to any where, your bottom will be totally safe. Of cause, you can tell me they can shot down every single plain of Ukraine army has, it is not needed.
In 2 or 3 year, if and when the crazy Obama start to march toward Moscow, I hope you have right mind to say so what we lose 1 million, we still have 150 million, and you saved 30 billion rubles 2 or 3 years ago (which they just denied they requested it).
By your argument of Strelkov is a Russian, then the cargo cult was brewed up by Russian.
All the refuges I saw on TV are women, children, and elderly. Since the man of new Russia are not fighting for themselves, fighters are all from Russia, I guess those man must have moved to Kiev.
When the man, women, and elderly stand in front of APC to stop them from move forward, those people must be insane or they must be stroll in a park.
More then a month ago, I thought Russian may best not to cross border, and there are plenty ways to archive same goal without formally send in an army, but the way Putin delivers it, I see it as betrayal. People like you also upsets me.
While I am typing this, someone tweeted following:
“Everyone, please remember, the Ukrainian soldiers sent by #Junta to die are our own, #Russian blood. DO NOT FORGET.”
With respect to people of NOVORUSSIA, some of them do read this blog, I will stop talking about this. They have my greatest respect, and I am from a total different world, and culture. I hope mother Russia, like all the mothers in the world, loves all her children equally, and unconditionally.
ie, What really gives a currency value is the production of that nation that that nation requires to buy it’s products
What really gives a currency value is the production of that nation that that nation requires to buy it’s products —
P.S. Just a note, our US dollar value does NOT rely on being the ‘world reserve’ currency nor the ‘petrodollar’ –ie, oil is traded & bought in EUROs as well as rubles/Chinese yuan without using the US dollar–countries don’t need US dollars to buy oil.
Additionally, the British pound, EUROs, & Japanese yen all have value without them being the world reserve currency because they produce trillions of dollars of products/services that people want & need
thus, the US dollar is backed by the $16+ trillion in products/services it produces/exports from food to medicine, pharmaceuticals to weapons to electronics to computers to software, etc
as
well as the fact that u need it to pay off debts/mortgages/credit cards & pay off taxes in addition to the need of US dollars to buy locally produced goods (ever tried to buy groceries with British pounds in the US?)
The US dollar has value because it actually is still the LARGEST country exporter of food & manufacturer of goods (from Intel chips, Microsoft Windows/Office, to Hollywood movies/music) that the world wants.
–China depends on the US for imports of wheat, soybean, rice, corn. See charts below –btw, Russia & China stopped using the US dollar for trade between them.. the US dollar didn’t lose/drop in value nor collapse nor hyperinflate
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/12/un-data-china-is-now-worlds-no-1.html
why US fiat dollar (and even EURO) has value, backed by world’s greatest production/export of food:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-agricultural-exporters-map.html
http://in.reuters.com/article/2008/04/18/trade-wto-food-idINL1835607720080418
The US doens’t need nor needed Braetton Woods’ Accord to be ‘world reserve’ currency… that’s just a formality that happened after the fact because the US for years prior was the world’s greatest exporter (you need US dollars to buy US goods)
&
producer of goods and still the leading nation as biggest exporter of FOOD after WW2 (making the US dollar valuable),
&
then world’s biggest importer (by ‘exporting’ fiat US dollars as nations exported to the US to accumulate US dollars because they wanted US dollars to buy US goods/services) which is how it became & is still ‘world reserve’ currency (which it doesn’t even need to be)
P.S. Weimar Germany’s hyperinflation was caused by shortages caused by 90% drop in it’s production when almost all their industrial/manufacturing workers went on strike for 8+ months to protest French/Belgian invasion of Germany to confiscate German industrial goods (coal, steel, manufactured goods,etc) for war reparations &
Germany’s gov printed money to buy foreign currency because it’s $21 billion war reparations could only be paid foreign gold-backed currency or hard goods
&
it also paid the striking German industrial workers to stay on strike & NOT produce, circumventing the normal increase in production that would otherwise arise from increased spending
&
from economics professor Bill Mitchell:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=3773
Zimbabwe’s hyperinflation was mostly caused by shortages caused by drops of 30%-57%
of it’s production sectors(food, textiles, manufacturing,etc) due to Mugwabe after years of civil war won
&
confiscated most lands of the white landowners(who then did a mass exodus out of Zimbabwe & made up most of the educated, skilled, professional, managerial class & employed most of the population)
&
gave their land/assets to his revolutionaries who were mostly armed peasants who had no idea how to run a farm, agribusiness, nor factory & unemployment then skyrocketed to 80%+
a country that issues it’s own fiat currency needs to have some tax to reduce inflation &
help keep value of the currency up since taxes need to paid in that currency, thus giving it more value (as well as the need for that currency for paying off mortgages,loans, credit & to buy local domestic production)
–it’s also the production of goods by a nation that gives value to a currency because that currency is needed to buy that nation’s production goods.
A nation’s currency are like gift cards to that nation’s production & thus a nation’s production is what also gives a national currency it’s value.
because taxes remove money from the private sector, gov spending adds money back to the private sector –and ‘deficit spending’ adds even more money on top of that
&
gov ‘deficit’ spending adds ADDITIONAL money/income to the private sector )
BUT
it does NOT need to tax at higher levels
Charts of economics Verifiable EVIDENCE by CEO/MBA economist at http://mythfighter.com/2009/09/07/introduction
&
http://mythfighter.com/2011/07/09/why-bank-lending-leads-to-recessions-a-counter-intuitive-finding
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“This model (loanable funds market) is simply inapplicable to our current monetary system in which bank loans are created “out of thin air” without the requirement of prior reserve balances or deposits to “fund” the loan’s creation. Completely contrary to the loanable funds model, in fact, the vast majority of bank liabilities have been created by banks simply growing their balance sheets through loans and asset purchases.”
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Rightwing economics entire foundation is wrong on the assumption that ‘capital can’t spin itself out of nothing’ –er, that’s the point of fiat currency –money creation, either by gov ‘deficit spending’ or ‘private bank money creation’ –he assumes wrongly that the gov or banks are constrained by reserves or sharing from the same limited supply of reserves –and related myths like the ‘money multiplier myth’, QE, & etc
‘crowding out’ nor ‘signficant Inflation’ does NOT arise until full-employment (which is under 2% to 4% unemployment rate), at which point, the money creation (deficit spending or private bank loans/credit) can be lessened.
rightwing economists/policiticans all learned their economic theories based on a gold-standard/foreign-currency standard like Austrian, Friedman when those guys all grew up on & lived under Gold-standard or foreign-currency standards with fixed exchange rates
where
the gov really did have to borrow or tax for their revenue so ‘crowding out’ & ‘loans fund deposits’ were real ..but now instead the US, Japan, etc create fiat money
..
–and yet they expect their gold-standard based theories to still be accurate for an economy that’s the OPPOSITE of gold-standard/foreign-currency standard economies dividing up a limited supply of gold/foreign currency
vs that of a currency that’s fiat with floating exchange rates –the OPPOSITE of their old outdated theories?
With fiat, there’s NO crowding out & ‘deposits don’t fund loans’ since banks create loans without the need for deposits since they get any needed reserves from the Federal Reserve
or
central bank (which is under the control of the fed gov in the US, Japan, Singapore, Canada, Australia but NOT in the EURO-zone)
“The Reichsmark was inflated away trying to obtain the gold and foreign money need to pay the reparations.” respectfully this doesn’t make any sense, particularly once the hyperinflation reached its terminal stage where infamously Germans stole the wheelbarrow and left the worthless marks, since those same worthless marks would not be good for buying any francs or ‘sterling’ or dollars that still had value then except in massive quantities at the banker level. They certainly had no use at the individual level which is why barter and prostitution both became rampant.
Once again, I neither subscribe to the ‘only a hard gold standard’ can save us theory (where do you set the price to establish equilibrium or price stability, $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 an oz?) nor the LaRouchian or modern monetary theory summed up by the Monopoly rule that ‘the [central] bank never goes bankrupt’. The mere fact that human beings can exchange entries on a computer for goods and services or at least nominal paper like Treasuries versus debasing coinage like the Roman Empire did 1,800 years ago has not changed human nature. Monetary order will be restored, undoubtedly, but in the ordo ab chao method whereby the U.S. elite stops fighting the Eurasian Economic Order after the dollar is finished and instead tries to unify the trade dollar, the domestic-only $hiess dollar as Jim Willie calls it that no one in the rest of the world will want (not unlike Argentine or Venezuelan currency now), and whatever synthesis of the ruble-yuan-euromark basket Eurasia will use into one currency to rule them all. And one throne upon which that one global monetary unit imposing leader to rule them all will sit. That’s where all of this destruction is headed.
Respectfully,
American Kulak
Saker and others, the NWO is not “Anglo-Zionist”, it is purely Zionist.
The “Anglos” are at best subordinates of the Zionists. They play secondary roles, and benefit from them.
The Zionist power structure is firm in 3 countries of importance: France, UK and US (or “FUKUS”). The Zionist influence over the rest of the Anglosphere is enormous, especially in Canada and Australia, but these countries are not capable of international power projection.
Google Prof Kevin MacDonald and his works, or his website The Occidental Observer, where he (and others) also blog:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/kmac/
The so-called “Jewish and Anglo” power structure appears to have conflicting views on the existence of ethnic/racial states:
The Amnesty/Immigration Surge And Senator Schumer’s War Against “White Anglo-Saxons”
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/02/the-amnesty-immigration-surge-and-senator-schumers-war-against-white-anglo-saxons/
Jewish Israel for JEWS and Indo-European ‘West’ for EVERYBODY. The “Anglos” seem to agree. What a partnership!
Zionists are concerned with three things:
1) Israel. That country can get away with pretty much everything it does. Israel is a “Jewish” state, and this is not racist. Indeed, if you oppose this definition, YOU are the hater.
2) Money. They control old banking dynasties and have vast secretive networks. The Federal Reserve was set up by bankers belonging to these dynasties. They use their money to buy off politicians and media outlets, using the two to elect a leadership of their liking (one which will not dare take on their usury, one which supports the displacement-level immigration and eventual demise of the white race, and one which supports Israel as the country of the Jews, atheist or not). With a friendly leadership they can also influence the course of education, where white-hating Jews and their goyim allies are also abundant. The ‘white privilege’ sociobabbling is a very serious consequence of the hostile Zionist elite. While Saker and others talk about Zionists, the Zionists, with their superior public outreach of all stripes, project a different picture to Americans: that all whites are privileged, and that they must atone for this privilege. If you as a white person doesn’t feel like you are privileged, this is just another sign of how blind you are to it, and why you need to be educated.
3) The white race. Jews have a bad history in Europe and favor multiracialism for the goyim. They are responsible for opening the borders of America to millions of Third World, non-white immigrants, as well as the doors of Canada, Australia, France and the UK. Due to their hegemony in the West, other countries cannot opt for having a race-based immigration system, or else the Empire would condemn it or even worse, exclude the country from the ‘club’. They are trying to do this at the moment with Russia, for different reasons. Countries under Russian hegemony during the USSR were spared from this development, so they don’t suffer from self-hatred. The capitals of Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Belarus, Romania etc have a VERY different demographics than the capitals of England, France, Italy, Spain (post-Franco), Germany (except Eastern Germany which has little native displacers), Belgium, The Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc.
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The anti-Russian nationalists of Eastern and Central Europe are a very rare breed of dumb, short-sighted people. The Zionist West has as a deep-rooted ideology the destruction of the Indo-European peoples, whereas Russia have not. Russia can compromise with real European nationalists, America cannot (except in rare circumstances, as in Eastern Europe today, which they do for strategic reasons, i.e. Russia presents a real threat to their hegemonic goals than small Eastern European countries, which are only useful in encircling Russia with hostile governments, the Zionists have no love for these countries’ nationalisms or peoples, but for a ‘greater good’, they tolerate it).
How’s that D-Day personal diplomacy working out for Putin?
The New World Order is laughing right in his gullible face!
What is sad is that he can do better.
He has shown brilliance (Crimea, Ossetia), and he has shown abject stupidity (Libya,and now Donbas).
The West will only break diplomatic ranks if the stakes and tensions are high, not if Putin is backing off. The moment he backs off, the diplomatic ranks close around him and the people of Donbas must face a 2nd World Army with a nascent militia.
Had he maintained the rhetorical pressure (RT, government statements) and used the gas as a weapon (ECB negative interest rates, US Q1 -1%) then he could work with the minority in the West that are willing to fight for reasonable relations (far-right parties, libertarians, realists).
Then, the threat of aerial bombardment and special forces attacks to defend civilians would actually deter the fighting and lead to a negotiated settlement.
In essence, Putin walked away from the one path that held the most likelihood of avoiding not only negatives for Russia (they will still get slapped with sanctions) but also for the everyday heroes of Donbas.
Primer on MMT with charts of empirical data/evidence:
MMT: the most important fact is that ALL spending is income for someone else –and that all gov spending is income for the private sector (that’s just regular accounting –someone’s debit is someone else’s credit)…
&
that the vast majority of the money supply is made up of money creation(aka as loans/credit by fractional reserve lending) by private banks.
About 97% of the total money supply in the world is actual fiat money created by private for-profit banks -chart of M1 (about $2 trillion) & M2 (about $10 trillion)
As long as the economy is not already at full employment, there is NO ‘crowding out’ because banks get any & all fiat funding from the federal reserve/central bank (NOT FROM A LIMITED SUPPLY of gold nor foreign currency)
&
the people hired are just idle unemployed & the resources used are also idle.
Private for-profit banks are responsible for most of the money creation in the US $15+ trillion dollar
economy
because they create $6-$7 TRILLION per year in the US economy to fund spending/demand & hiring are responsible for most of the money creation
When private-for profit banks reduce loans/credit/money creation, recessions happen because there’s not enough money to fund spending, demand,
&
hiring so businesses then cut production
&
cut supply which keeps prices high & layoff workers & the effects ripple outwards to other businesses
Thus, it’s up to gov to counteract the money supply contraction with gov money creation (aka ‘deficit spending).
–which
shows why taxes should be cut
&
gov money creation(aka ‘deficit spending’) increased during stagnant economies to fund increased hiring, spending
&
demand because
recessions are caused by CONTRACTIONS in money supply due to banks reducing their money creation aka as loans/credit
US dollar value is determined by US production just like the value of a – card/certificate to a department store is worth what the department store sells/produces, which is why gift cards/certificates
to
Best Buy, Walmart, etc are worth the most on Ebay while those to Ayn Rand’s book store is worthless–
but any & all gift cards would have no value if their shelves were empty & never restocked with products to buy.
Inflation is reduced & offset because the increased spending increases production/hiring & supply of goods, which offsets the increased money supply
..as long as the economy is not already at full maximum employment/maximum production & there is no supply shock nor monopoly, there is little inflation
–the only real limit is NOT tax revenue or debt/deficit levels but the actual maximum production of the nation
(ie, evidenced as unemployment rate below 2%-4%, maximum production by factories at full maximum production & maxed hiring, etc)
..and that because a nation that creates it’s own currency
&
has almost all it’s debt in it’s own currency can always pay it’s debts & spending regardless
&
that interest rates are really targeted
&
set by the Federal Reserve/central bank in that the market floats towards
whatever interest rate the central bank targets, regardless of debt, nor deficit levels, nor Credit Ratings, which
is
why interest rates are near 0% despite record debt/deficit levels & lowered credit ratings, which is why
Japan/Singapore
are
also
at
near 0% interest rates, 0% inflation, 4% to 5% unemployment rate, & deficit/debt levels (200%+) twice that of the of US for the past 10-15+ years
“Any time the US wants to “pay off” the debt, it just needs to credit bondholders with newly created dollars.” True ever since 1971, but just as the world monetary order suddenly changed at that inflection point due to the costs of the Welfare/Warfare State (Great Society and Vietnam/Cold War) what happens if we have another global monetary reset, this time forced on the U.S. not by France, Japan and Europe but by the BRICS? What happens when the biggest bondholder of all, China, demands something tangible rather than more little green pieces of paper or book entries on a ledger or computer somewhere? Are we going to have more Bundy ranch standoffs when cowboys say ‘hell no are you putting a ChiCom oil well or solar farm on this land?’
“Since bonds are the equivalent of cash, no new money is created by this operation – the money was created when it was spent and covered by bond issuance.” This assumes the Fed and Treasury can continue their ‘no net money entering the system’ Ponzi to kingdom come. They cannot and if you haven’t noticed both economic and population growth in terms of domestic births have slowed dramatically in the U.S. Hence the terrible urgency on the part of our elites to import new people including children now dumped by their desperate parents at our southern Border.
“As long as the US sticks to this system, it cannot by definition go bankrupt, since it always has the ability to create dollars to pay off or service debt.” Until the rest of the productive world no longer wants those dollars, regardless of all the draconian measures the US may take to keep merchants accepting the $heissdollar and EBT cards filled no matter what. If you doubt this, check out FATCA and the radical extra territoriality of it as the first step to real capital controls on all Americans and accounts owned by them abroad (save for maybe the really big boys like Soros or Ted Turner, as usual).
American Kulak
“Any time the US wants to “pay off” the debt, it just needs to credit bondholders with newly created dollars.” True ever since 1971, but just as the world monetary order suddenly changed at that inflection point due to the costs of the Welfare/Warfare State (Great Society and Vietnam/Cold War) what happens if we have another global monetary reset, this time forced on the U.S. not by France, Japan and Europe but by the BRICS? What happens when the biggest bondholder of all, China, demands something tangible rather than more little green pieces of paper or book entries on a ledger or computer somewhere? Are we going to have more Bundy ranch standoffs when cowboys say ‘hell no are you putting a ChiCom oil well or solar farm on this land?’
“Since bonds are the equivalent of cash, no new money is created by this operation – the money was created when it was spent and covered by bond issuance.” This assumes the Fed and Treasury can continue their ‘no net money entering the system’ Ponzi to kingdom come. They cannot and if you haven’t noticed both economic and population growth in terms of domestic births have slowed dramatically in the U.S. Hence the terrible urgency on the part of our elites to import new people including children now dumped by their desperate parents at our southern Border.
“As long as the US sticks to this system, it cannot by definition go bankrupt, since it always has the ability to create dollars to pay off or service debt.” Until the rest of the productive world no longer wants those dollars, regardless of all the draconian measures the US may take to keep merchants accepting the $heissdollar and EBT cards filled no matter what. If you doubt this, check out FATCA and the radical extra territoriality of it as the first step to real capital controls on all Americans and accounts owned by them abroad (save for maybe the really big boys like Soros or Ted Turner, as usual).
American Kulak
there’s tons of empirical evidence/data charts from official sources like Federal Reserve
Charts of evidence/facts here- Oil/energy prices cause inflation, NOT federal deficits -evidence/facts here
Also China’s huge growth of 7%-12%+ GDP per year & 4% unemployment within the past 15 years is because MMT founders of Warren Mosler, taught Chinese officials in 1998 MMT
–and
look at China’s boom within the past 15 years because they follow most of MMT-lite when using their deficit spending
&
gov banks to fund $1-$2 TRILLION to hire/fund infrastructure & business industries :
1. oil causes inflation because it’s an oliogopoly, mainly under control of OPEC & oil is needed for most transportation/distribution & some production of goods –see more below
Charts of empirical evidence/data showing deficit-spending has no relation to inflation http://mythfighter.com/2010/04/06/more-thoughts-on-inflation
&
http://hereticaldruthers.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/how-does-inflation-occur –
production increases or decreases to match the money supply which offsets inflation. 1970s inflation actually came mostly from the OPEC oil embargo & oil prices jacking up 400%.
Because oil was the 2nd largest source of electricity needed for production, it had widespread effect. Inflation in the 1980s decreased when natural gas production increases replaced oil for electricity generation in the US. allowing energy prices to relatively decrease.
For more on oil from conservative Forbes magazine Texas Christian University economist Phd John Harvey: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2013/03/09/why-gas-prices-are-rising/
&
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2011/04/26/why-you-are-paying-so-much-for-gas/
2. Charts of economics Verifiable EVIDENCE by CEO/MBA economist at http://mythfighter.com/2009/09/07/introduction/
&
http://mythfighter.com/2011/07/09/why-bank-lending-leads-to-recessions-a-counter-intuitive-finding ..more at http://www.RodgerMitchell.com
3a. http://pragcap.com/debunking-ron-pauls-talking-points
3b. http://pragcap.com/whoa-thats-a-lot-of-private-sector-savings-i-mean-debt
4. http://pragcap.com/the-most-destructive-monetary-myth-in-the-usa
5. ‘Seven Deadly Frauds of Economic Policy’ http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf by Bank CEO/economist & billionaire-bond trader Warren Mosler who explains bond & bank monetary operations from the insider’s view of how things really work that dispels myths of economics believed by most — from http://MoslerEconomics.com/ -Daily Insightful & Most Accurate Verifiable Economics Analysis –he’s billions from being middle-class following his own MMT economics advice
5b. http://hereticaldruthers.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/the-mainstream-media-myths-on-economics/
5c. http://hereticaldruthers.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/the-path-to-prosperity-part-1/
US issuing it’s own currency & controlling it’s own central bank can issue as much currency as it needs to & sets it’s own interest rates without causing high inflation
as
long as maximum production/maximum employment has not been reached
because the increased spending stimulates increased production & hiring
Nora:
Did you actually lease your land and if so when, or did you buy stock in a shale extraction firm?
We leased our land for drilling and collected a very large check, and I invested my portion of that check into limited partnerships in the fossil fuel business (but not shyster firsm like Chesapeake Energy) and made back all the money I owed in taxes on the lease bonus in the first two years.
There hasn’t been any drilling yet for the obvious reason that it is not economical given that prices are $4 and they need around $6 to sell it into the market. It will become economical for the leaseholder (Shell) once they have their petrochemical plant up and running, because the gas feedstock from their own wells will be an extremely cheap input producing very valuable plastics and they won’t need to deal with transaction and long distance shipping costs. However if they don’t drill soon, they owe us another lease bonus, or we can negotiate a new contract with another firm who themselves will owe a lease bonus. From my perspective, I don’t really care if it is ecnomical or not for the driller. I own the mineral rights, and if someone wants to try to extract them, they can pay me. if they don’t, well, I still own the mineral rights and at some point somebody is going to want to try to get the resource out. I’m patient.
I’m well aware of the crap going into and out of the ground in the process and frankly don’t care too much – all the “pollutants” involved all came out of the earth to begin with and are simply being returned to it. I’ve listened to people rattle on about the waste water being dumped into rivers without them providing the perspective that the total amount (assuming it is all dumped directly in a river without treatment or recycling, which doesn’t happen) is the equivalent of getting one teaspoon on your head in the course of a ten minute shower. The land holding is extremely large, and we use it for hunting and farming. The wellpad will be off in a corner well away from where we do anything. I’ll be glad to listen to the opinion on this of any opponent who chops their own wood for heat in the winter and rides a horse to get around. Anyone who heats their home with fossil fuels or drives a car and then starts preaching about the evils of oil and gas extraction is just a hypocrite.
more evidence here:
http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/search?q=FDR+social+security -Proof showing that Social Security can always pay FULL or GREATER benefits & can’t be bankrupt & how FDR & his a cabinet admitted that Social Security/payroll taxes are UNNECESSARY
[except
for keeping demand for currency up & reducing aggregate demand] in a fiat currency gov that issues it’s own currency & can pay full benefits but they agreed to SSI/payroll taxes as a “useful fiction” so that conservative politicians in the future couldn’t cut ithem since people “paid into it”
&
video testimony & writings by several Federal Reserve chairmen from Greenspan, Bernanke & Eccles that the gov can create as much money as it needs & that Social Security can not go bankrupt since it’s all fiat
More charts from Federal Reserve data proving it: Economics Verifiable EVIDENCE by CEO/MBA economist at http://mythfighter.com/2009/09/07/introduction/
7. http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2012/12/if-media-cant-call-these-guys-out-on.html –despite record debt/deficits & lowered credit ratings for the past 20 yrs, interest rates are at record lows & inflation is ultra-low (same is true of Singapore (118% debt) & Japan (200% debt)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nfjI2qpX2vU/UMDSSzLAtVI/AAAAAAAAA-g/vdUQgdxMllc/s1600/debt%2Bvs%2Binflation.png
8. http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=22149 -economics professor Bill Mitchell, PhD on MMT, Money Multiplier, ineffectiveness of Quantitive Easing, & other myths of central bankers, politicians, & media that parrot them
http://hereticaldruthers.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/the-mainstream-media-myths-on-economics/
The biggest objection is “what about inflation or devaluing US dollar?”
Inflation is offset/reduced by increasing production that normally increases when there is increased spending(stimulus) unless there is a shortage or supply shock or monopoly/oligopoly because competition & increased supply keeps prices down.
A currency’s value is given value because taxes have to be paid in that currency AND it is based on
&
backed by the production of what the currency can buy, just like gift cards & gift certificates value are based on what the business issuing them produces or sells
That’s why Walmart & Best Buy currency aka as gift cards/gift certificates has the highest value on Ebay vs. some small business that produces things few people want.
The US dollar has value because it actually is still the LARGEST country exporter of food & manufacturer of goods (from Intel chips, Microsoft Windows/Office, to Hollywood movies/music) that the world wants.
–China depends on the US for imports of wheat, soybean, rice, corn. See charts below –btw, Russia & China stopped using the US dollar for trade between them.. the US dollar didn’t lose/drop in value nor collapse nor hyperinflate
http://seekingalpha.com/article/165958-u-s-still-the-world-s-largest-manufacturer
why US fiat dollar (and even EURO) has value, backed by world’s greatest production/export of food:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-agricultural-exporters-map.html
http://in.reuters.com/article/2008/04/18/trade-wto-food-idINL1835607720080418
The US doens’t need nor needed Braetton Woods’ Accord to be ‘world reserve’ currency… that’s just a formality that happened after the fact because the US for years prior was the world’s greatest exporter (you need US dollars to buy US goods)
&
producer of goods and still the leading nation as biggest exporter of FOOD after WW2 (making the US dollar valuable),
&
then world’s biggest importer (by ‘exporting’ fiat US dollars as nations exported to the US to accumulate US dollars because they wanted US dollars to buy US goods/services) which is how it became & is still ‘world reserve’ currency (which it doesn’t even need to be)
P.S. Weimar Germany’s hyperinflation was caused by shortages caused by 90% drop in it’s production when almost all their industrial/manufacturing workers went on strike for 8+ months to protest French/Belgian invasion of Germany to confiscate German industrial goods (coal, steel, manufactured goods,etc) for war reparations &
Germany’s gov printed money to buy foreign currency because it’s $21 billion war reparations could only be paid foreign gold-backed currency or hard goods
&
it also paid the striking German industrial workers to stay on strike & NOT produce, circumventing the normal increase in production that would otherwise arise from increased spending
&
from economics professor Bill Mitchell:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=3773
Zimbabwe’s hyperinflation was caused by shortages caused by drops of 30%-57%
of it’s production sectors(food, textiles, manufacturing,etc) due to Mugwabe after years of civil war won
&
confiscated most lands of the white landowners(who then did a mass exodus out of Zimbabwe & made up most of the educated, skilled, professional, managerial class & employed most of the population)
&
gave their land/assets to his revolutionaries who were mostly armed peasants who had no idea how to run a farm, agribusiness, nor factory & unemployment then skyrocketed to 80%+
American Kulak,
I agree we’re going to collapse; actually, we are collapsing — socially, economically and ultimately politically. Most of the institutions that together made up our social glue — family, church, community, representative government at all levels really, voluntary organizations, neighborhood-i-ness, etc., etc. — no longer function effectively; people keep losing their jobs so can’t put money back into the economy bc they haven’t got it to spend plus the tax base keeps shrinking and that means fewer of the services typically provided by all governments (just think infrastructure if you want to keep this politically neutral) are now available — and under our lovely Neoliberal model, the rich just keep getting richer as Perot’s “strong sucking sound” occurs in ever-increasing arenas. So yes, social and economic; the political collapse is also now happening as people world-wide if not yet here see that, with the exception of our war industry, we’re really a very stupid, highly unlikeable, utterly untrustable and astoundingly ineffective hegemon. And oh, did I mention a totally corrupt system of “justice” and a society that is outrageously, obscenely violent — yes, that woman is someone no one who ever even heard, much less saw, her story, will ever forget. Or forget that, to coin a phrase, we did that.
But I see this happening regardless of whether the gold standard or fiat money is the way to go. My loooong discussion(s) with my father, a gold standard upholder, was based on the fact that whatever medium of exchange you use, it needs to be rather rare and highly valued, which of course gold is. My contention was simply that that was not necessarily a unique situation and something else, at some point, could supplant it — not necessarily but also not absolutely excluding paper. (The Fed is a ‘nother whole issue and I think we probably agree on that one…) But I’m a pretty concrete, data-driven empirical sort and what I see in the field of economics is a couple of different theories or, actually, ideologies or belief-systems, each having many untested, unverified hypotheses. And there are so many variables involved, how can you test them? So these guys — the Chicago School, Hayek’s Austerians, those who oppose them, spout all these “scientific-sounding” words, with no real science (i.e., strictly-controlled data collection, testing and analysis) behind them but people are basically arguing Protestant vs. Catholic vs. Orthodox vs. Islam vs. …
And now that I’ve probably p*ssed everyone off… , and you in particular, can I just ask if you see my point? Yes, collapse, but don’t you think our Neoliberal/Neoconservative warmaking structure would guarantee it anyhow, even if gold were still $35 an ounce? I sure do.
be4real:
Andrew lost me when he claimed America would rebuild and restart its manufacturing base. Can you say “Detroit”? I don’t think America makes anything anymore except war and propaganda.
That is an extraordinarily ignorant opinion.
If the US doesn’t make anything, you have to wonder what the hundreds of thousands of factories around the country are doing.
I think what you are saying is that the US doesn’t make cheap consumer goods you buy at Wlmart or Bed Bath and Beyond. You are correct there. We make very few socks and t-shirts, we don’t make cheap utensils, and we don’t make cheap toys for kids.
On the other hand, the US manufactures a tremendous amount of complex transportation equipment, pharmaceuticals, petrochemicals. It also has a big manufacturing business converting naural resources like food, minerals, and such into higher value products. There are also tens of thousands of small factories making all manner of niche products. Possibly you don’t see this because you live in a de-industrialized are like New England which due to land and salary prices and taxes and logistics is not competitive with middle America. If you want to go see places that are making lots of things, try driving around Chicago or Houston or the LA Inland Empire. Float along the Delaware between PA and New Jersey or the Mississippi between Baton Rouge and New Orleans, or down the Ohio through Pittsburgh. You will see lots of factories, and lots of ships and trains and trucks moving lots of goods.
American Kulak,
I am not completely out of sympathy with you (or Russia’s) view on gold but I think your argument is wrong.
I strongly recommend the talks given by Warren Mosler on this.
The basic points are:
Sovereign issuers are not like users of the currency. This means governments are not like households. They don’t have to balance the budget. In fact if they do in the wrong circumstances they will only succeed in shrinking the economy and – as a result – make the debt burden even less sustainable. (Basically, this is why austerity fails.)
In fact, this can be demonstrated in a simple chart:
http://alittleecon.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/sectoral-balances.jpg
What this means is basically if the private sector is de-levaraging then by definition the public sector must be borrowing. It’s actually an accounting identity. No ideology needed.
Really the right way to think about money is: it’s the scoreboard on a sports field. It is as silly to ask where money comes from as it is to ask where the scorekeeper “gets” his points.
Similarly, government spending actually precedes government borrowing. The analogy would – again, from Mosler – would be the way a sports promoter first prints tickets and then collects them. Does anyone care that their tickets are ripped up? No. In this context we get it but somehow monetary transactions are mysterious.
As this suggest – you guessed it – there is no purely monetary constraint on government spending. That is, there is no functional relationship between government spending and tax received. The restraint comes when there is too much demand (private and public) for the limited resources available but this doesn’t come into play in the current circumstances where the world economy is performing enormously below capacity. (Thus there is literally no reason Spain, for instance, should have to suffer 50 % youth unemployment basically binning a whole generation. This, to me, is the barbarity of our current age: that we look on this suffering as a calamity akin to weather.)
There’s more to it than just the above but the points here are key ones.
Frankly I’ve got cases of books on economics that I could happily replace with a head-cleaning 20 pages of Mosler or with other MMT theorists such as Randy Wray and Stephanie Kelton.
Here’s a couple of Mosler’s talks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba8XdDqZ-Jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YhrtktLQQw
His book is brilliant:
http://moslereconomics.com/wp-content/powerpoints/7DIF.pdf
Saker,
In Juan’s list of the victims of the Lugansk Administration Building massacre, I do not see the name of Inna Kukurudza
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2014/06/nato-junta-war-crimes.html
https://www.facebook.com/southfronteng/posts/635012069924085:0
Perhaps the “unidentified woman” in Juan’s list is Inna Kukurudza? Saker, if possible and when time permits, could you ask Juan about this? This woman’s face will be deeply etched on me for the rest of my life. To the extent possible, this and the other victims of the neo-Nazis must not become anonymous. Naming and knowing the victims is the first step in the legal/medicolegal process of working back from the immediate cause (the pilot), up through the chain of command to the proximate cause, to obtain some justice for the victims and punish the perpetrators.
The Hermit:
one could get the impression that Dugin is a pessimist which believes in Russia and Putin’s inevitable doom. That is not his position. Yes, he thinks the situation now is risky, and that Russian military intervention is necessary, but he also believes there will be an intervention, and that there will be a favorable outcome.
Dugin is really an autarkist. He correctly notes that Russia does not really need the west, and that Russia would in many ways be much better off taking what it needs or wants by force (such as the whole space from the Bug River to Mongolia and down to the border of Iran and then running off to enjoy its spoils by itself.
This isn’t false, but I think that the moral destiny of Russia does not lie in gazing at its own navel and ignoring the world around it.
The Atlantacists won’t be defeated and brought to heal by hdiing inside Fortress Russia, but by going out and meeting and beating them on their own field.
American Kulak
Well, for gosh sakes, your “soft” gold standard is the point I was making all those years ago! And I totally agree with you about oligarchy and greenback dollars.
And yes, I’ll blame the Great Depression on the Fed and major international banking, uh, errors. But I will disagree with you regarding the “panics” of the 19th century (history being more my forte): those things seem to be built into a laissez-faire (i.e., unregulated) economy and the net effect tended to benefit the haves and devastate everyone else — until the Great Depression, where for the first time people of all classes were greatly affected in very large numbers. And I’m pretty sure you’ll find these fighting words, but Keynesian spending programs instituted to keep us from going Socialist or Communist helped immeasurably bc all that make-work did pump money back into the economy; when Roosevelt cut back, the system reverted and it took mobilization/WWII to get us out from under. More fighting words: the system of regulation of securities and banks developed as a result of the Great Depression kept us from those 30-year panic/wipe-out cycles until — thank you Trilateral Tool Jimmy Carter and every president since then — we went bonkers dismantling it and deregulating everything in sight. I loathe bureaucrats and over-regulation, but it sure would be nice to see some Smart Regulations. We’d have to have leaders who care about people though — or at least who can be made to listen and follow our wishes. Fat chance anytime soon.
I would add other factors to your last paragraph though: blind arrogance, some craziness, a whole lot of greed and what used to be called a lust for power come to mind but I’m sure there are more than that. Oh, and a certain little country in the Middle East…
Perhaps I missed it, but in all the discussion about money, I have not seen consideration of the biosphere and its ongoing degradation and destruction. The natural capital of the biosphere is perhaps the only true “money”. The degradation/destruction of the biosphere, leading to collapse in agricultural productivity, scarcity of fresh water, and desertification of the oceans, in the face of 7 billion humans going on 10 billion — this is the root cause of decreased production, scarcity and hyperinflation. Already it takes 10 calories of fossil fuel (fertilizer, pesticides, transportation, plastic packaging) to produce one food calorie. Science is never “settled”, but to a scientific certainty, anthropogenic global warming is rapidly destroying the physical conditions and biological systems that make Earth habitable for humans. As there are about 40 serious positive feedback loops lurking in the wings, it would be a mistake to think that the changes will be gradual in terms of human lifespans. You could eat your bonds, but most lack vitamins and essential amino acids.
Industrial civilization is going down, and relatively rapidly. The only question is by what path. In my opinion, the unipolar-US path is the least equitable and leads to maximum morbidity and mortality. A multipolar world offers a (slim) hope of a more equitable path that buffers the pain and suffering.
Славянск. Отъезд беженцев. Хунта, будь ты проклята! / Slavyansk.Refugees departure.Damn you,Junta!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdam2uzmVs
“Published on Jun 5, 2014
#SaveDonbassPeople
#SaveDonbassSkyFromNazi
The Kiev Junta offense. A war crime. Neo-Nazi crimes against humanity.
Slavyansk. Refugees departure. Damn you, Junta!
Parents say goodbye to their kids, they had to leave, so that children can live in safety. There is an ongoing combat. The sounds of air bombing and artillery strikes are hearing while parents crying of their children. Women and mothers’re saying: “We will curse Turchinov until end of life! Tell this him!”
This video, shot in Lviv Oblast, shows families trying to stop the military from sending their untrained men to the east. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAarAn7Q5E
“Leolo Lazone said…
Saker,
In Juan’s list of the victims of the Lugansk Administration Building massacre, I do not see the name of Inna Kukurudza”
Inna Corn is on the list. How her last name got translated in to English on that list I have no idea but Saker can ask Juan about it.
‘Kукуруза’ is what it should be on the list.
Obama Visits Warsaw: US President to Execute Ukraine Sentenced to Death
Nikolai BOBKIN
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/06/05/obama-visits-warsaw-us-president-execute-ukraine-sentenced-death.html
Опрос на немецком ТВ: Haben Sie Verständnis für Putins Kurs?
http://a30001.rimg.info/icon/11961400028786548daf173b718f0a9cf0741461d.jpg
I happen to watch CCTV on Livestation. It seems China State TV, sounds more or less like BBC, especially on Ukraine.
Make me wonder is China on Russia side or playing both sides? See for yourself below, may need to wait for the News on Ukraine and Western leaders with Putin in France D-day anniversary in Normandy.
http://www.livestation.com/en/cctv
JC
My guess will be two possible reasons for acting so:
1. Please their Western colleagues for a less pressure on Chinese part. Recent hostile events in Asia are all targeted at them.
2. The discontent among Chinese population towards US is running sky high. The government is cautious not to add more fuel to the situation. They know well it can backfire to them.
The huge energy deal that China signed with Russia recently reveal their real position more than what is fanned in their media.
It is just my personal speculation.
I have not critized Russia at all in this crisis but the 800 pound gorilla in the room is the fact that, after 2004 when the Russians got rich on oil and Moscow and SP real estate prices turned poor families into rich families, the rich Russians sent their cash and their vacation selves to the west instead of to the Carpathians and the Black Sea and Kiev, where they could have solidified an “empire” (they did patronize “Krim” enough to keep it but just barely).
Russians looked down on Ukrainians. Even worse, Russians showed no signs of wanting to colonize Ukrainian land such as with villas where they could have had half a dozen Ukrainian servants per family. If they had done the latter, there would have been less resentment than there was when Russians simply bought villas in Italy and ignored Ukraine.
Ukrainians noticed that they were not considered worthy of Russian vacation dollars and investment and, now, many are disregarding Russia for the west in a different, more threatening, manner.
Especially under the threat of sanctions from the west, more Russian money needs to be properly invested in parts of the Ukraine that will do business with and be friendly to Russia. Families need to spend more time in the Ukraine rather than sending their kids to Harvard or Florida. School curricula can be better neutralized if there are more real Russians to complain about the yellow blue propaganda kids are otherwise subjected to. This will establish Novorussiya.
@ Nora: forget the nonsense-economics from Andrew above – it’s many words saying absolutely nothing of substance.
It goes quite simple with US dollar – if the country refuses using dollar in their international transactions, the US military will come and bomb the shite out of the country, or send them some AQ-puppets and such. The rest is just the fluffy pseudo-Keynsian nonsense.
Dollar is a worthless fiction like any currency and at least 2/3 of it is the government in debt to itself. I strongly recommend the blog “Reality Bloger” where the guy really invested lots of reserch and time into the topics and will provide you more then enough hard evidence to chew through.
Also on China – the major part of theeir industries is owned by the US. Just go read the CAFR of every major fund and look for their shares in chinese companies and banks. Which clearly tells you that all those “chinese dollar reserves” are for the most part american companies there recycling american debt. All just smoke and mirrors. To get out of that trap is just damn hard and that’s why China is so timid and careful (and sloooooow) in their reactions.
Nora:
Why will Russia’s ability to equal the US as a place people want to sell goods to and invest their money in take 50-100 years?
Russia has half the popultion of the US and 1/6th of the GDP. It will take that long to double or triple Russian population and similarly send the GDP up 15 fold.
If the US grows at 2% per year, it doubles in size every 36 years. If Russia grows at 6% per year, it doubles in 12 years. So if the US is a $30T eonomy in 2050, Russia would still only be $20T in 2050 growing at 6%, which would require some population growth and reinvestment.
There is no doubt that WWIII is happening live, it wasn’t announced as such but was prefigured in many ways and at many times. The first time in my life that I would consider allowing myself to commit an act of violence – have discovered that some things are even worth killing for – killing fascists – although I’ve long known that some things are worth dying for.
All support to the anti-fascist resistance!
Bring the war home to America!
I don’t understand these comments about Putin using BRIC to replace the petrodollar-everyone still has to buy from the Saudis, who aren’t going to anger their friends the Americans. They are heavily invested in America, and not worthless imaginary stocks, but hard commodities like real estate and infrastructure. They would lose all of that, not to mention the U.S. presence in the Gulf region. If they don’t have the Americans protecting them, the Saudi royal family will get overthrown by radicals, as the country is full of angry young poor people who are sick of the wealth of the oil sheiks.
The battle has been described as the triumph of the Soviet theory of “the operational art” because of the complete co-ordination of all the Strategic Front movements and signals traffic to fool the enemy about the target of the offensive. The military tactical operations of the Red Army successfully avoided the mobile reserves of the Wehrmacht and continually “wrong-footed” the German forces. Despite the huge forces involved, Soviet front commanders left their adversaries completely confused about the main axis of attack until it was too late.
MythFighter,
So the de-regulation of the requirement for capital reserves for banks — which is why I thought so many banks failed — is now essential? But all those banks went belly-up in 2008; that’s not a good thing. And of course the major biggies just got infusion after infusion of taxpayer dollars, which imho was a very bad thing. No?
Also, aren’t banks making fewer loans now despite the incredibly low interest rates?
Andrew,
Gotcha. And good on you for avoiding Chesapeake and going with Shell. I personally value the land way more than the minerals in it, and wish you better luck with your re-negociations than the people I know. Otoh, it sounds like you know what you’re doing and they just had Magic-Dollar-Signs in their eyes and basically got screwed. I’d worry about my water though! And “all the pollutants” didn’t just come out of the ground, they won’t even identify the varying amounts of crap they put *in* — and yes, various firms have been found dumping the waste water anywhere they can to avoid fees. I agree about the hypocrisy, and that it’s extremely difficult to maintain a small energy footprint. We went for large-sized solar, and I personally agonize every time we get the tractor out but am not yet ready to buy a mule! ;~) I do see it coming though: fossil fuel use on this planet is simply not sustainable and our fossil-fuel-based monocrop/long-distance transport agricultural system likewise. I hope to be long-gone before the real crunch hits, but it will.
Also, pardon my ignorance but what complex transportation do we actually manufacture here? And pharmaceutical production is likewise constantly getting off-shored to China. Yes to niche products though, but they’re hardly enough to sustain an economy or, more importantly, a population.
Tim Owen,
“This, to me, is the barbarity of our current age: that we look on this suffering as a calamity akin to weather.”
A. Most. Emphatic. YES. !!!!!!!
Oligarchs are why Russia collapsed in the 1990’s; the US and EU are doing it more slowly, that’s all. And frankly, all that suffering is just plain Evil.
Dear The Saker,
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_06/RT-and-Russian-mouthpiece-of-propaganda-flat-out-lying-about-my-discharge-Jennifer-Psaki-2620/
Looks like Psaki is still around :( and having a dig at RT even though they have said nothing….
Rgds,
Veritas
@LBlogger Leolo Lazone
“Science is never “settled”, but to a scientific certainty, anthropogenic global warming is rapidly destroying the physical conditions and biological systems that make Earth habitable for humans. As there are about 40 serious positive feedback loops lurking in the wings, it would be a mistake to think that the changes will be gradual in terms of human lifespans. “
06 June, 2014 06:25
When you refer to [human-caused] global warming, are you referring to the results of the massive continents wide geo-‘engineering’ – more precisely imo geo-experimentation – which is now approx. two decades in duration?
The over night mist which forms from the geo-experimentation holds in daytime heat.
Despite this since the late 1990s temperatures seem to be more or less stable, with ups and downs.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-is-here/10783
And what about the disclosures of big problems with the integrity and the methodology of the IPCC?
Not to dispute the carnage and terminal dysfunction of industrial/warmaking civilization on the natural environment.
Auslander said,
“Inna Corn is on the list. How her last name got translated in to English on that list I have no idea but Saker can ask Juan about it.
‘Kукуруза’ is what it should be on the list.”
Thank you.
National guard thugs are rounding up all young men when they capture any territory. Fate unknown. Maybe this will incentivize those sitting on hands to get up and fight for their freedom.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1402059511
Nora et al… All economic platforms are based on two principles — trust and trustworthiness — without which “exchange of value” is impossible. One doesn’t trade “willingly” with those who cheat, lie, deceive, manipulate or steal. To “deal with the devil” simply makes you one of his tribe.
This may appear an oversimplification of the current economic crisis — but its the root of all evil…the LOVE of money. The willingness to do anything and everything for it. It’s the basis of zero-sum game theory — a winner takes all mentality — that ensures mutual destruction.
Using gold as a means of trade enabled traders to move “trust” from subjective to objective — i.e. from humans to objects. The American economy was ALWAYS based on trust and trustworthiness. The cause of its unraveling isn’t due to the gold standard or fiat-based-money — but because the US has proven itself UNWORTHY of the trust of its citizens — and ABSOLUTELY unworthy of the trust of humanity worldwide. This is the critical issue. It doesn’t matter how much gold is held in JPMs vault or how many dollars Yellen prints. Average citizens don’t believe them. We can argue round and round about Keynes vs. Mises — but it makes not one whit of difference if ones government is untrustworthy or if its citizens mis-trust every outcome.
This is what TPTB — aka: Anglo-Zionist Oligarch cabal — have done to US and global economies. There will be a reckoning. On that one may rely. AGS
It’s a popular belief that economic crises happen because modern currencies aren’t based on a gold standard or because central bankers always mismanage the economy or both. But the Panic of 1873, the Long Depression, the Panic of 1893, the Depression of 1900-4, the Panic of 1907 and several lesser economic disasters all happened in an era when the US dollar was on the strictest of gold standards and the US didn’t have a central bank.
Those who revere the free market and Adam Smith’s invisible hand are very reluctant to consider the possibility that the market, left entirely to itself, might dive into a depression twenty three years long. Once you acknowledge the Long Depression it becomes very hard to ignore the fact that an economy left to its own devices can dole out decades of misery to the people.
From https://twitter.com/spainbuca
Arms shipments to Kiev have doubled this week via cargo planes from Poland.
All the attacks from the air on eastern Ukraine are coordinated from the office of the private military consultants in Kiev.
Kiev’s latest acquisition is cluster bombs…
when they are used, don’t blame only Kiev, they are coming from Poland
Uno de los pilotos de los cazas que lanza ataques contra el este, es de nacionalidad Polaca
One of the pilots participating in the air attacks on the East is from Poland.
http://rt.com/news/164076-ukraine-poll-east-west/
Apparently, Ukraine would be a nice little pro-Russian country without Ultima Banderastan.
According to Ultima Banderastan, 60% think US has played a positive role in Ukraine over the past year, 70% think the Crimean referendum was illegitimate, 84% want to join the EU, 53% want to join NATO, and 60% want to suffer through IMF austerity. In all of the rest of Ukraine, no one else agrees with these position in a majority except for Kiev, which has been filled up with emigrants from Ultima Banderastan over the past 23 years.
What really needs to happen is not to have Donbass secede, but to saw off the left side of Ukraine at the border of Vinnytsia and Zhytomir and give it back to Poland, and send back the emigrants in Kiev to their new homeland.
Nora:
I’d worry about my water though! And “all the pollutants” didn’t just come out of the ground, they won’t even identify the varying amounts of crap they put *in* — and yes, various firms have been found dumping the waste water anywhere they can to avoid fees.
We don’t live on the land. Its a remote hunting preserve we use and do some minor farming on.
Unless fracking solutions contain pixie dust or ground up Angel feathers, everything being injected into the earth came up out of the earth from another process. Yes it is a secret. They experiement with proportions based on different rocks they are working in. This is why fracking in Europe has been a fail – the rocks are different, so many years of experimentation are needed to figure out what will work.
I personally live in a small house an only own one car and do a lot of biking and walking. But I am happy to take the money from the wastrels who don’t live like I do. Its not my place
Keynes proposed a solution to the currency problem at Betton Woods in 1944. His idea was the creation of a new, neutral unit of international currency – the Bancor – and a new institution – the International Clearing Union (ICU) All international trade would be measured in Bancors. Exporting would accrue Bancors, importing would expedn Bancors. Nations were expected to maintain, within a small percentage, a zero account with the ICU. This would indicate that they had an overall equivalence of imports and exports. Each nation’s Bancor account would be related to its national currency through a fixed, but adjustable, exchange rate.
Debtor and creditor would be treated almost alike as disturbers of equilibrium.
Nations that imported – debtor nations – would pay a small interest charge to the Clearing Union on their overdrawn account. This would encourage those nations to promote exports by a range of domestic policies as well as marginal currency devaluation. But equally nations that ran an aggressive trade policy and exported more than they imported would also be charged by the Clearing Union for their surplus accounts. This would encourage those nations to find ways to sped their excess Bancors back in debtor nations – or gradually lose that surplus.
The efforts of debtor nations to promote exports was intended to coincide with the efforts of creditor nations to spend their otherwise worthless Bancor surplus. These charges were intended not so much as a deterrent or punishment but as a benign feedback mechanism ensuring over time that trade remained in balance.
Keynes’ Clearing Union is at its heart a profoundly democratic ideal. Not only should the advantage of powerful commercial interests not be allowed to distort the balance of trade but the citizens of a successful commercial nation should not see the results of their efforts constantly exported and removed from them. On a national scale, whilst a relatively few wealthy people involved at the commercial level might profit from accumulating and investing foreign revenues, the great majority of citizens in a creditor nation are effectively working to become net suppliers of wealth abroad. The pressure on nations with a creditor account to accept imports equivalent to their surplus exports was thus a pressure to allow the citizens of that nation to enjoy what they had worked for.
If China succeeds as replacing the yuan as the new reserve currency all we will get will be a new Empire that will abuse its power. If other BRICs and/or the Western powers could persuade China to embrace a version of the Keynesian plan the world would be liberated from a key weapon of economic imperialism. It would not only give the US a soft landing once the imperial dollar was terminated but also help enormously to resolve the Third World debt crisis.
@Andrew:According to Ultima Banderastan, 60% think US has played a positive role in Ukraine over the past year, 70% think the Crimean referendum was illegitimate, 84% want to join the EU, 53% want to join NATO, and 60% want to suffer through IMF austerity.
Amazing…
May God grant them that wish and let the rest of mankind hand them a collective Darwin Award which they surely deserve more than any other group of people.
Kind regards,
The Saker
@Anonymous 06 JUNE, 2014 14:33
I thought spainbucca had been expelled from Ukraine or at least from his air controller job.
Where does he get his infos from now?
Comment on a Kremlin Stooge thread about US economic decline:
“Collapse in the US has already started if you take the retail industry as a guide. Companies like Sears and Wal-Mart are either closing stores (analysts have said Wal-Mart should shut 100 under-performing outlets), cutting jobs or not filling job vacancies. One statistic I have seen states that the US now has 1 billion square feet of vacant retail space, mostly in suburban shopping malls surrounded by massive parking lots located along arterial roads.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-facts-about-the-great-u-s-retail-apocalypse-that-will-blow-your-mind
http://urbanland.uli.org/news/solutions-for-suburban-strip-malls/
A lot of the closures would be expected because of over-supply in the retail market and also because you have rapacious profit-greedy companies like Wal-Mart who moved into rural areas with their giant concrete-shoebox buildings and killed off small retail businesses, and are now reaping their dismal harvest in helping to kill off the middle classes. But the collapse in retail is a symptom of the overall general failure of US-style deregulated capitalism based on concentrating economic, financial and political power in the hands of a small elite that then bends the rules in its favour to gain short-term wealth while ignoring long-term consequences”
@Robert : Your comments started off interestingly but then you had to end with a cheap shot fear-mongering misinformative statement about Chinese Yuan will replace the US dollar as international reserve currency and abuse it
Beijing has always stated there should be a special drawing rights currency comprised of a basket of currencies to replace the USD. When did it ever said that it wanted the Yuan to be the international reserve currency?
Your misinformation and fear mongering is typical of the US Neocons writings or speeches in public medias.