This was just sent to me by a good Lebanese friend:
Huge disaster, investigation underway, on face value was caused by utter negligence, corruption and incompetence of Lebanese state, but I am one of those that has been stressing that the enemies could have exploited this state negligence and corruption to trigger this disaster through sabotage. Few simple reasons for this, including:
a) this disaster completely serves current US-Israeli efforts to pressure Lebanon economically to bow down to their demands
b) the site of the explosion, Port of Beirut, was the transit through which 50-80% of Lebanon’s commodity and trade needs were met
c) the explosions struck wheat reserves stored there as well, exacerbating the dire economic situation and inflation further
d) Israeli officials few days ago were warning the Resistance that if they struck Israeli army targets (a response to recent Israeli crimes by Resistance was imminent), Lebanon’s infrastructure will be targeted
e) one year ago exactly Israel’s ambassador to UN said at the Security Council that the Port of Beirut had become ‘Hezbollah’s Port’. Lebanese ambassador said this was a direct threat to Lebanon’s civilians and security
f) last but not least, the 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate (that exploded) were reportedly stored there 6 years ago, and they have been described as a ticking time bomb considering the irresponsible way that they were stored. Is it really coincidental that this ticking time bomb goes off today, at the worst possible moment for Lebanon (Country is falling on all levels, coronavirus, US siege at its peak etc)?
So, while initial reports have said this disaster was caused by the utter negligence, corruption and lack of accountability of Lebanese state institutions, an official investigation is currently underway, and the Resistance will certainly be doing its own investigation, because there was no worse possible time for this disaster to occur to Lebanon than today. Sabotage by the enemy must remain a strong possibility (though actually proving that may be difficult).
very sad for Lebanese people. There is a good interview here – https://youtu.be/_w5F_0xzdoQ
Its Richard Medhurst and Rania Khalek – she is actually in Lebanon – I hope she’s okay. Its actually amazing that only 10 people were killed when you see the buildings all around.
Ask Mike Pompeo and Gina Haspell what happened…Lesley Clark said 7 countries in 5 years and Lebanon is one of them
The Lira is completely collapsed and the people have all lost their life savings. Hopefully this angers them and allows Hezbollah to take the right action
Unfortunately there are almost 100 dead so far, and roughly 4,000 injured.
https://www.rt.com/news/497147-beirut-damage-thousands-homeless/
200,000 homeless
It will like be a month or more before a realistic estimate of the true death, injury and homeless count can be made. If this turns out to be Israeli sabotage (who seriously doubts this?), then the ultimate repercussions will extend far beyond the middle east, and for a very long time.
God help the good people of Lebanon! Is not President Aoun a patriot?
It takes a lot of heat to get Sodium nitrate to jump.”540c” kind of heat.. If it was Ammonium nitrate, it would of needed one hell of a “kick” to get it to let go. being it is one of the safest explosives used in Mining. Stable as a brick house. Like, we used to pack it with powergel plugs to make it Jump. Very very stable.. Fire wont set it off.. it will just burn. Nitrate. well, again, it needs almost 540c to make it jump.. not sure how long it needs that heat though ? I’m thinking there is one or two “proper” powder monkeys out there pondering the feeds we’re getting. Something about this has that odour of Fish to it..?
Yes that does seem curious. Nitrate provides the oxygen in an explosive. It needs an APPROPRIATE amount of “fuel” to burn to turn it into an explosive.
Looking forward to some expert opinion on this topic.
There are reports of there being a silo explosion which seems more credible.
Maybe both? plus more?
I’m no expert but I have collected and watched every video of the event I could find.
1. Guy filming from the top of the Port Authority building at the north end of the grain silo. Clearly shows what were likely fireworks cooking off, then a fairly large explosion.
2. From other angles you can see the ‘sparkles’ that look like fireworks before first explosion. That one probably areosolized a bunch of the Nitroprill and everything else in the warehouse.
3. From some angles you can see the cloud of material from the first explosion, then a fire rips through the center of the cloud causing the massive blast. Basically like a fuel-air-bomb.
Don’t know what started the fire but it looks like just a series of unfortunate events leading to a catastrophe. Negligence and ignorance seem more at play than nefarious actions by other state players.
Texas, April 1947; a French ship carrying ammonium nitrate caught fire and blew up, killing 518 people. It is still the worst industrial accident in American history. Ammonium nitrate explosions are not unknown. Port explosions are not unknown.
There was already a huge fire caused by the fireworks. Supposedly the original fire was started by a welder who was tasked with welding shut a vent to prevent theft. If that is true, then it does not seem sabotage is the case here. Sometimes shitty things just happen.
Just the welder story coming out so fast seems suspicious. You would think any record of that would have been lost along with the welder himself and the persons who hired him. It’s a bit like finding an incriminating passport in the street shortly after a couple huge downtown skyscrapers collapse.
Esa historia suya del soldador está requete mandada a hacer. Cuando esta clase de chistes salen a la luz en medio de tal tragedia dan ganas de reir. No diga bobadas, piense nada mas en donde quedaria el tal soldador (tanto el aparato como el trabajador así como el contratista). Con ese grado de destrucción no puede haber quedado ningún registro de ello.
Translation. Mod:
That story of yours about the welder is just about done. When these kinds of jokes come to light in the midst of such a tragedy they make you want to laugh. Don’t be silly, just think about where the welder would be (both the appliance and the worker as well as the contractor). With that degree of destruction there can be no record of it.
Thanks for your insights on this.
Looking at things the choreography is straight up 9/11. The same hand. I could be wrong. I just looking at the stage management.
My thought, too.
Katherine
I whole heartedly believe it was sabotage and a very calculated at one at that. It was done by no other than u.s/isreal. What a perfect atmosphere with this incident on top to apply more pressure on Hezbollah domestically. Now if hezbollah is be blamed I bet you Hezbollah will now be required to notify certain observers where they stash their supplies/weapons to “prevent” this happening again and then this information will swiftly be handed over to the dozen pro-Israel pawns in high places in lebanon and then handed to the Israelis themself for future attacks. Now, also imagine the chatter going around in the Hezbollah channels going back and forth between Nasrallah and whomever is carrying out the investigation on the ground and reporting back..is this also the perfect storm to figure out where Nasrallah is lurking now that I am sure he is probably in demand for his opinion? His phone line must be busy and all it takes is isreal to somehow intercept a signal to figure out where Nasrallah is.
Israel admitted that it was not a Hezbollah weapons storage.
In the video I saw, first there was a fire or smaller explosion going on but still large (large white smoke cloud rising)—I thought this white smoke cloud was “the” explosion.
And then, KABOOM. Really big explosion.
Katherine
PS
At the base of the white cloud were orange-hot glowing areas—not “licking” flames.
Katherine
Beirut explosion reminds me of Tianjin, China explosion of August 13, 2015. Both appear maybe NOT so accidental.
Tianjin was not a bomb. It was negligent storage. Very similar to this one.
Though, with Israel’s goals and satanic values, Beirut was due to be destroyed. It’s the goal. And the stupidity of the officials assisted the goal, be it by means of accident or sabotage.
What makes this accident very suspicious is the concurrent explosions all over Iran, which the government says are not bombs. That is hard to believe. I rarely believe the government in Teheran.
We see Israel making war on all its neighbors, so it is quite easy to assume every explosion is Israeli-linked.
What we lack in all these explosions is proof of our suspicions.
It is always a temptation to assume Israel must be involved ( it may well be ) However, we are in danger of reflexively shouting Israel before we actually know anything, a bit like the US / UK automatically blaming Russia for everything.
I always ask three questions :
Does this story make sense ?
Cui bono ?
What is the evidence ?
These are very obvious questions I know, but still, they are often not answered and a conclusion is simply asserted.
Dear Larchmonter,
I frequently think of the two phrases invented by the CIA in the 60’s; ‘Plausible Deniability’ and “Conspiracy Theories’. And then there is the very old adage ‘Who Benefits’.
And please consider the manner in which the CIA and the US have been managing their attacks on their and Israel’s enemies; all so very plausible and deniable underhand attacks. Just because you cannot prove it does not mean that it occurred.
Video clearly showing missile striking ammonia storage facility:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNx3K22Zx9k
I have watched this video several times and I did not see any missile or anything that could credibly be mistaken for a missile. At best there was a tiny speck that could have been a bird.
But…why a bird would fly towards the epicenter of the first explosion where such ammount of smoke was already on dispell?
Makes no sense for a natural bird, with all its instincts of conservation intact….
But could well not be a natural bird, of course…What about a drone?
There are reports from ground witnesses, including a foreign correspondent, haing heard noise of aircrafts previous to the blasts
I would agree – before we accept that the UFO was a “bird” I’d like answers to some questions, that should be easy for experts to supply.
1. What kind of bird dives fast, at an angle of about 45deg. and not into water but solid objects? [I know there are sea birds which dive fast but they are almost perpendicular. Land birds that dive onto prey i.e eagles, come in at a lower angle usually, I think, from memory.
2. Do such birds live in that area? Can the distance from the UFO to the camera be estimated, thus the size of the bird calculated – from first sight it looks to be such a distance, that to see it from that distance, it must be size of an eagle or condor. Do such exist in Lebanon?
3. Are there documented records of this bird species regularly taking dive runs in that area?
4. Is their prey identified?
Without answers, the bird theory has to be put on hold. If they answered in the negative, it has to be abandoned, which supports the contention that it was some kind of missile.
That it was a missile is also supported by Vladimir Putin’s comments, that Lebanon suffered “a terrorist” attack. Since the US and Israel are clearly terrorists, they are not ruled out.
Perhaps your eyes need testing. My old eyes saw it and it was moving far too fast to be a bird. This incident stinks of naked aggression from the usual suspects.
I don’t see anything on the video that looks like either a missile or a bird.
But the shape of the explosion—the big white “donut”—sure looks like “something”. . .
Something that explosives experts can maybe look at. It is pretty symmetrical and “neat.”
It is interesting that first there is the fire—getting a lot of smart phones already pointed in the right direction with video going—and then there is the “real” explosion. Kind of like the sequence at 9/11.
Katherine
Radiation levels after Beirut blast.
https://radmon.org/index.php
Radiation Alert log of readings.
https://radmon.org/index.php/alerts (live log)
I need to match the excessively high Pedara, Sicily (Italian) alerts with the blast time. Does anyone know what time the blast took place?
short after 18:00 local time (15:00 UTC).
It was around 6 pm, Beirut time….
Why do you think the levels of radiation in Spain are so high comapred with. for exmaple, the US?
Could it be because of storage of Us nuclear weapons in US bases in Spain?
This article:
https://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2020/Aug-04/509847-initial-reports-two-massive-explosion-at-beirut-port.ashx
was published on Aug. 04, 2020 | 06:29 PM.
Judging by the time stamps of their live news, they use local Lebanese time on the site, which is UTC+3.
So explosion happened before 3:29 PM UTC, that is before 15:29 UTC, when the article was put on their site.
Wikipedia says the second explosion occurred at about 18:08 local time, which is 15:08 UTC.
High readings in Pedara, Sicily start at 14:51:44 UTC, good 15 minutes before the second explosion in Beirut port.
That looks like a bird. I can even make out flapping.
Uhm🤔
What type of rockets/missiles flap their wings??
Go trough the slomo part frame by frame and you see the wings move.
I might change my mind if another video shows a missile, this one did not.
israel would commit suicide if they say they r behind this because they will free hezbolla, iran and syria hands to retaliate and scalate. Israel knows this.
What time of day, exactly, did this explosion take place? Not one report I’ve read seems to have an answer.
As to why it is not sabotage: the video footage of the pre explosion fires shows small explosions like sparks. This indicates something, possibly electric transformers or other electric equipment, exploding from the fire (I have seen this kind of thing happen myself). The sabotage would have to be amazing in its timing to take advantage of a fire that would explode the ammonium nitrate from sparks and heat. Occam’s Razor would make an accidental explosion more likely. Besides, zionist stooge Trump said it was an attack. If it really was one he’d have been told in advance to shut up.
The u.s rules Isreal not the other way around. Unless you think isreal would surround itself with its enemies and dictate what happens in America. Why were the Americans and British so good at colonizing? No enemies near by..rule by sea. You’ve got to think in terms of nuclear first strike: the u.s has made it seem like isreal runs the show so that if a random unsuspected nuclear strike was launched it is launched on isreal so that the u.s can sustain no damage and fire one to wherever that nuke came from. That’s another trick many people overlook or intentionally overlook..trump said it was an attack to peddle the idea isreal controls the u.s.
Dear Moroccan Eyes,
Ariel Sharon would disagree with your first statement, and so too would Bibi Netanyahu.
Amazing how the impotent Israel manages to get AIPAC to do its dirty work on the omnipotent Congressfolk and Senators in DC then.
Nick MacDonald
From the video on Off-Guardian, there is already a fire burning when the explosion occurs. There is talk of fireworks stored adjacent to the nitrate.
re: https://youtu.be/jNx3K22Zx9k?t=54
Yes, I think it is a bird too. It is WAY to far forward in the video to be missile hitting in the background. I can see it’s wings fluttering.
Yeah…it’s a super fast bird that lands in the fire and then explodes. Plus if it was a bird, from that distance would be huge.
The man making the video thinks it is s missile. Not a bird.
Where is the bird? Is it circled in turquoise?
The video is pretty small, and I don’t see any bird, missile or anything at all in the air.
Katherine
So, who started the Fireworks fire?
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, chances are, it’s probably a duck.
Who did it? Well, I believe their are basically four possibilities:
a)Israel
b)Israhell
c)ZOG
d)Lucifer
https://toranja-mecanica.blogspot.com/
I’m going with number 4.
For me I cant fathom the idea this being a mistake and neglegence. You would think a country like Lebanon with all the spies flying in and out, all the political pro isreal puppets, economical downfall, and what’s happening in neighbouring Syria and Palestine..and thboth iran and Saudi Arabia fighting all over lebanon in many ways..you would think security at their MAIN economical hub their port would be NUMBER ONE Priority. Am I really to believe they left some explosive substances on the port near a fireworks factory With no security measures? With all that listed above going on am I to believe it was just a matter of heat from the sun, or some malfunctioning firework was the reason we saw that blast? Something isnt right.
All the evidence shows that there had been infact over 2000 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored there for the past 6+ years, pretty crappily stored by the way. Seems that the Lebanon authorities were not that competent.
Moroccan eyes
customs officials alledgedly sent several letters to the gov asking them for help with getting rid of the substance.
I cant locate it now, i think i read it on @Canthama1 twitter feed.
There was pictures of the alleged letters but i cant read arabic so i am not 100% sure if it is true or not.
The question that everyone shoud be asking is: Qui bono?
Who benefits from this disaster?
Does Lebanon benefits?
Does Hezbollah benefits?
Does Iran?
Does Syria?
Does Israel Benefits?
Does the US benefits?
In whose current agenda does this disaster conveniently fit into?
“Beirut Blast Shockwaves Will Be Felt by Hezbollah for a Long Time”
The above is the latest headline from Haaretz.
From Israel’s perspective the catastrophic”incident” that occured yesterday is being viewed entirely through the prism of its negative implications for Hezbollah, and by extention Iran.
That alone should make persons cautious before concluding that what occured was an accident.
The last “big explosion” that occured in Lebanon in Febuary 2005 with the assassination of Rafik Hariri and it was quickly pinned on Hezbollah without a shred of evidence and it was used to get Syrian Troops out of Lebanon – something Israel had always wanted.
Hezbollah denied any involvement but the US appointed tribunal did not consider to look elsewhere.
Israel benefitted from Hariri’s killing, with the finger of suspicion pointed at Hezbollah and Syrian Troops ousted from Lebanon, yet the biased tribunal looking at the case did not consider looking at Israel.
This might very well have been an accident, but the fact that many knew – including the US and Israel – that almost 3000 tons of Ammonia Nitrate was being stored in Hanger 12, it was probably an “accident” wainting to happen, and at a time deemed to be of maximum convenience to them, Lebanon’s enemies ensured that it did.
Remember: Qui bono?
Selah
That same article caught my eye and I posted about it on Off Guardian. It convinced me even more than Veteran’s Today. You have made the same arguments that I was thinking. Also the Hariri tribunal verdict is to be announced on Friday. August 7.
Make that Cui bono?
Selah
This is ominous to say the least. The monkey with the hand grenades has finally started throwing the grenades around. Great. Time to think about food and materiel reservers, shelter, get together with family and friends, maxe emergency plans etc.
Blast wave looks more like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOjbgTTrSNg than any ammonium nitrate explosion I’ve seen.
Very, very interesting. However, what would be the point if you already have a pile of cheap explosive fertilizer sitting around, waiting to explode. Also what other explosions have you seen to compare it to? I have seen footage of the Texas fertilizer plant explosion and although not exactly the same it is hard to tell as the footage was from much closer than the footage in Beirut. Second question. Who on earth stores fireworks next to explosive fuel? That sounds like either sheer stupidity on a whole lot of people’s parts and a highly unlikely coincidence or it was done on purpose. The actors are most likely not one country or another, but there are those who work behind the scenes to start wars between countries by doing things that make one country blame and get mad at another —things exactly like this. Likeliest scenario. Someone’s shadow company bought a warehouse and some fertilizer…same person got someone else to put fireworks in adjoining warehouse…also paid an engineer to make sure that everything would go as planned…same people paid some gang to get one of their low level hooligans to start a fire in the fireworks warehouse…BOOM. There is no paper trail…Same boss gets their friends in the media to speculate which country did this…that country gets all the attention and blame…not too many people fact check since they are already mad at the other country for other things…and thus you have a war, which incidentally is financed on both sides by aforementioned fat cat boss, who now is richer than ever, while the poor get poorer or dead from the war.
Just reading an entertaining “bio” of the Rothschild entity. Bu Frederic Morton.
Written in an earlier age. So, no attempt to hide the reality.
They got their start financing wars. No loyalties except to themselves and their family.
Very easy with a lot of private, untraceable cash, opeartives, transport, etc. to create and fund the combination that resulted in this explosion.
Just an example.
Katherine
The explosion in the video looks nothing like Beirut and nothing like the claimed ODAB-500 in the description. The explosion in the video is too powerful for ODAB-500, while smaller than Beirut and it behaves differently.
The one in the video might be ODAB-1500, but even there it doesn’t fit perfectly.
The terror event is a *three* stage process clearly carried out by Israel.
1) firebombs are used in the ‘firework’ factory- video clearly shows classic tiny ‘explosions’ early on.
2) a large conventional bomb is used to trigger a massive ragged fire blast above the ‘nitrate’ storage facility.
3) 1/25th of a second later, Israel triggers a small tactical nuke at the same location under the cover of the conventional explosion. The classic nuclear fully spherical fireball can be seen in one frame of many of the videos.
It is the tactical nuclear blast that destroys the port and causes all the damage.
There is no such thing as coincidence. Israel had its world war class weapon systems out to play on Lebanon’s border, and promised to use them if there was any attempt to strike back in ‘revenge’ for the endless atrocities carried out by israel in Syria. The monster that rules in Israel is in massive political trouble. He is enboldened by absolute support from the Trump admin.
Israel has destroyed yet another economic centre of one of its stated ‘enemies’. Israel’s tactic across the decades has been to keep its non-western neighbours in a third world economic state, using military atrocity to achieve this.
Sadly, as proven across the recent months with Iran, the nations targeted by Israeli terror have leaders who describe such terror attacks as ‘accidents’ whenever they thing their populace will swallow such lies.
Nuclear weapons have advanced since the late 1950s as much as phones and computers, but the advances are not in the public domain. Russia was even able to experiment with hand held guns firing nuclear ‘bullets’, so tiny can the modern nuclear warheads be today. And a modern small nuke can have its radiation residue dialed to near zero, with astonishing efficient conversion of mass to energy. There is still a radiation signature, but the general public believe that since the signature is so tiny, it can’t have been a nuclear explosion.
The UK used a nuclear weapon against the major defence installation in the hands of ‘rebels’ in Yemen a few years back. Nuclear weapons have been used by the West in military conflicts many times since WW2 ended- as much to scientifically examine their effectiveness in a real conflict situation (just like the nukes used on Japan).
Just like with 9/11, those with any decent education understand the truth, but the majority get fed the ‘fertilizer’ accident and buy it hook, line and sinker- for they do not want to face a truth too terrifying to accept.
Now Israel has got away with nuking Lebanon, the pressure on the monsters running that nation to do the same to Iran will be impossible to resist. Any location in Iran with ‘explosive materials’ on site can be sold to fools as an ‘accident’ and every juicy target in Iran can be descibed thus.
The longstanding issue with nukes has always been ‘the Genie out of the bottle’- the same reason Blair normalised the use of DU. One Israeli nuke did to the key economic resource in Lebanon what conventional war by Israel could never achieve. And Israel’s opponents are falling over themselves to sell the Israeli lie- what could be more perfectly demonic.
PS there was no ‘missile’. Such a claim is designed to ‘poison the well’. The Firebombs, conventional bomb, and tactical nuclear warhead had been planted by an israeli terror team in advance- the exact process Israel prides itself on mastering. Indeed Israel states that this form of attack is their ‘superior’ ‘military’ planning and execution. They boast of planning for these strikes as a proof of their ‘superiority’ and ‘worthiness’ of being the regional ‘masters’. Pure vile racism in action.
Remember the Israeli bombs planted in the phones of targets in Lebanon and Gaza years back? Israeli bombs in computers. And Israel howling in delight when these ‘clever’ methods murdered opposition leader after leader? Remeber the mass slaughter of civilians in Israel’s terror wars on Lebanon, Gaza and Syria, and the explicit public Israeli promise that next time they’d kill far more civilians?
Yesterday Israel kept that promise in Lebanon, and today they are in hysterics at the fools ignoring the nuclear perfectly spherical fireblast visible in the video for that single frame immediately before the classic nuclear shockwave destroys the location.
Any, that is ANY, explosion is fully spherical, whether it is a firecracker or Tsar Bomba. If I said what I really thought of your hypothesis the moderator wouldn’t pass my comment, so I’ll confine myself to suggesting reading up on basic blast physics.
Thank you for some common sense. People are so trained to see bomb and think nuclear—automatically. Like children. God gave us reasoning abilities for a reason! Use them!
Thank you Paul, OEDEN,
Excellent Post- both!
Regards
Chris
If this was a nuclear detonation, where is all the firestorms from the extreme heat? That superheated air would be carried with the blast wave and everyone in the vicinity hit by the blast wave would have at least been severely burned if not vaporized. Am I mistaken?
I doubt this was an accident.
Yes Israelis are the likely suspects whether it a merely a cigarette tossed into the building/ship, a stick of dynamite or a sophisticated ignition device. Be it a renegade person or group, or Govt.
Then again it could be an Act of God, or a careless worker, or even a piece of glass magnified by the Sun, or chemical reaction based on temperature or instability of the chemicals due to age as that ship full of AN has been sitting there for 6 years.etc….
But a spherical blast can come from pattern of the distribution of the explosive.
A barrel of gunpowder will behave the similarly – as the initial combustion (with an upward column blast) then vaporizes and spreads the unburnt material then ignites in a secondary super blast as the forces hit the ground level then blast upwards magnifying the effect into that white cloud of smoke.
A review of video footage also reveals the white cloud of the blast appears to be harbor water and sand from the explosion site.
Wrong- the video footage watched in slow motion shows the literal formation of clouds a fixed distance from the nuclear plasma ball as a consequence of a pressure wave forcing water molecules to condense. Hot air carries far more water than cold air. The air over a desert doesn’t rain *not* due to a lack of water but due to hot air being able to hold so much more water in a non-condensed form.
The plasma ball from a nuclear warhead explosion does *not* expand indefinietly- it is essentially done at a certain radius (here somewhat higher than the adjoining building. The secondary effect is the instantaneous heating of the surrounding ball of air, that then causes the classic shockwave that levels the surrounding region. The energy from this form of tactical nuke is designed to be kinetic, *not* heat, *not* radiation.
The entirety of the classic ‘hotter than the Sun’ nuclear effect happens only at ‘ground zero’ where the initial plasma ball develops. Photos from the air show a perfect spherical indentation that literally ‘ate’ the ground.
The destruction of the ground is another signature of a nuclear device. The energy released into the plasma ball enters all solid materials and causes them to disintergrate at an atomic level. Not even burning or melting- just disintergration. But as I said, this effect is only within the nuclear plasma ball itself- and is not the physical method that then does all the intended destruction.
Why would Lebanon officials of all colours lie? Actually, in history, they (the leaders of a nation thumped this hard) always do. Recall the laughable Iraqi propaganda in the first days of Blair’s genocidal invasion of Iraq. You see the entirety of the top of the power structure of Lebanese society would be at risk from the general populace lower down if they said “we are so rubbish we allowed Israel to murder thousands of you and destroy the economic centre of your nation”. At the people at the top (everywhere) care only about their own necks.
After 9/11, indy demo experts across the West contacted the US government to tell them it was obvious the ‘terrorists’ had rigged the three towers with explosives to cause their total demolition. When told in return that the US government completely denied that possibility, the indy demo specialists fell silent, understanding what had really happened, who did it, and how dangerous it would be to continue to offer expert opinions in public.
For any employed expert to explain why this was a nuclear explosion would, at the very least, cost them their job- and any similar employment in the future. All the major powers are currently buiding unprecedented numbers of ‘small’ nuclear warheads whose yield would be quite a bit lower than this Israeli one. There is no secret about this rush to normalise the use of nuclear warheads in coming conflicts.
One ‘small’ ‘cheap’ Israeli bomb did what multiple wars by Israel on its neighbours all failed to do. And Israel watches as even its ‘enemies’ fall over themselves to deny the truth (fear of nukes scrambles the brains of most people).
In plain site, the evidence is recorded and ignored. Not one of the ‘deniers’ will produce a photo or video of another conventional detonation with the plasma fireball and the resulting perfectly spherical ground disintegration- and yet they will say over and over “nothing to see here”. The fact that experts measured the released energy, and easily calculated it is many many many more times than the perfect energy relese of the supposed ‘nitrates’ is like the experts who dared to explain how jet fuel cannot cause steel to melt.
The really really scary fact is that now, as I type, legions of military horrors across the West are saying “we must do this to Iran and *now*- see how even our enemies swallow any lie”. Iran has set the precedent of being ‘accident prone’- the US claims the sanctions make heavy industry ever more ‘dangerous’ in Iran- and the statist shills are ready on every forum to tell you not to believe your lying eyes.
The only thing that may save Iran is the need for the West to physically get the nukes into place by ground- infiltrating Lebanon was as easy for Israel as falling off a log, so corrupt is that place- do any of you think anyone bothered to open up a crate of ‘fireworks’ to see what really lay inside? No doubt french agents worked alongside Israeli ones to get this job done.
Iran is careful to be very different. But with the total success of the nuking of Lebanon, pressure on military planners to find a way to do the same in Iran, when cost is literally no object (they’ll use billions of dollars to bribe Iranian traitors if that is what it takes- remember the pallets of dollars Blair and co moved into Iraq during his invasion to ‘buy’ ‘co-operation’ of the locals). All that matters is that the ordinary populace watches nuclear bombs go off, and then agree they didn’t see what they saw when the shills rally their forces.
“The air over a desert doesn’t rain *not* due to a lack of water but due to hot air being able to hold so much more water in a non-condensed form. ”
Not trying to be argumentative, but . . .
in that case why isn’t the air in the desert “muggy,” i.e., high humidity, instead of being well known for being very dry (and hence not as uncomfortable as, say, India before the monsoon “breaks”)?
Katherine
A possible answer may lay here:
‘China emerges as potential investor as Lebanon runs low on options’
[quote] “Last month, discussion over the possibility of Chinese aid escalated into a shouting match between the embassy and David Schenker, a former US Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern affairs.
…
On June 17, the United States invoked the Caesar Syrian Civilian Protection Act to impose sanctions on the Syrian regime and its backers. Analysts warn that the Caesar Act will increase the division in Lebanon over ties with Syria and Hezbollah’s external relations.
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/07/lebanon-china-money-investment.html
One can argue that China is sitting pretty to get the contract to rebuild the port—rebuild it better, more modern etc. so one can look at this from a slightly different angle.
Also, are there any satellite feeds? If so, and they will never be shared with the plebs, these and the very secret closed documents of the various intelligence agencies running around the Mid East will tell it all. Again, we will never know but someone does know or perhaps did know.
Two things to look for: 1. solidarity in the midEast. 2. retaliation in the midEast. Of course all those fires and bomb blasts in Iran over the last two months were not “accidental”.
Again, the structure on the planet is not to involve the minds of the masses but to manipulate and control them—-every political system does this but it is done even more so today as the struggle is on over who will control space and the riches that beckon. ( As for the Chinese launch to Mars? Well, the Indians did it with superb mathematical manipulations and teamwork, and it did not fare so well at the final stage so we shall see…)
Here is a more narrow “large picture”:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-will-soon-be-able-close-straits-hormuz-and-red-sea
explosion at china port. tianjin.
kay griggs interviews are a must see if theres ever an insider to global skullduggery .
as far as mining . we used to use a cement mixer to make diesel and nitrate slurry. pour it into bags and set charges . simple chemistry doesnt allow only one part of the equation to go boom. just my two cents .
Here’s a variation on the theory, Israel’s overrated Mossad identifies the fireworks warehouse as a Hezbollah asset and decides to do a Syria style attack in Lebanon. This sets off the chain of events, it’s possible they didn’t know where the nitrate was stored. They wanted a smallish attack on Hezbollah where they could chortle, ‘maybe we did or maybe we didn’t’ like they have been doing in Iran.
If this was a cruise missile strike from a ship or a long range glider bomb attack then I would have to think that Russia would have at least the presence of IDF military captured in strike range at the time of the explosion. This would also explain Trumps, ‘my Generals told me it was an attack’ comment. Trump lies but he lies about conspiracy theories he believes, not about what he has heard.
If they found fireworks and thought it was Hezbollah cache, it wasn’t the Israelis. They are not stupid.
They know arms storage from fireworks storage. So your supposition is incorrect for starters.
It’s best to take the explosion for what it likely is–massive stupidity and accidental ignition.
It may, one day, come out that it was deliberate sabotage.
That requires testimony because it is unlikely some hard evidentiary proof will ever be found.
To move a conscience to confess to such a crime might take a lot more than a few hundred dead. People in that region are hardened by decades of war and atrocities.
Thus, don’t hold you breath.
The CIA and Israel are very likely suspects. However, seeing Lebanese government, internecine warfare and the lack of wisdom in that society, it is much more likely that negligence and stupidity was the spark for the explosion.
Shit happens to stupid people. Lebanon was in free fall before this disaster. In fact, when in our lifetimes has Lebanon not been in crisis? It is a sad, tragic society with no center of gravity, except that it is a perpetual battlefield.
Look closely at Hezbollah’s social welfare system. This is an opportunity for them to win over others if they can become the core of reconstruction. This is a huge opportunity for them.
China jumps in and rebuilds the port. Big boost to OBOR. Tripoli and Sidon’s ports are not large enough to replace Beirut, so Syria and Russia use Tartus and Latakia to help out Lebanon. Both Lebanon and Syria are so badly damaged that this tragedy may lead to something useful like a Lebanon-Syrian Federation.
“that this tragedy may lead to something useful like a Lebanon-Syrian Federation.”
Wasn’t Lebanon part of Greater Syria anyhow?
Maybe it’s time to turn the clock back . . .
Katherine
These types of disasters happen. Halifax SS Mont Blanc 1917, Bhopal India, West in Texas and many others. This is why LNG tankers are not allowed in many ports. Sad that you know not what caused this one and yet you seek to cast blame. Ammonium nitrate is very dangerous when allow to get damp. I would like to know if you could think of a worse place to store it. Yes, by the sea in a highly populated area. They only have themselves to blame for that.
Port of Newcastle, Australia regularly stores between 6,000 – 12,000 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. This is much more than Beirut. (Beirut apparently had almost 3,000 tonnes)
Not drawing any conclusions, simply stating that the amount of ammonium nitrate in Beirut and its storage at the port is not that unusual or uncommon.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-05/beirut-blast-raises-concern-about-newcastle-ammonium-nitrate/12527546
Prolonged high heat from a fire or a detonator type explosion are required otherwise nitrate is quite stable on its own. Israel caused fires and infrastructure attacks in Iran? Looks famiiar, it could be stuрidity (storage) exploited by US/Israel. Pretty good cover. Needs solid investigation
Everybody knew it was there, including Hezbollah, which is why no one in the region will call it what it was. It was an insurance policy placed there and the Lebanese authorities were forced to assume suretyship. “Do as we say, keep Hezbollah in line or we push the button.” Some cashed out the insurance policy. Ironically the only people who have no interest in maintaining the illusion are the Americans. Trump came right out and said it was an attack. The man is still a master troll in spite of himself.
Ammonium nitrate is a colourless crystalline substance (melting point 169.6 °C [337.3 °F]). It is highly soluble in water; heating of the water solution decomposes the salt to nitrous oxide (laughing gas).
Britannica.com › Science › Chemistry. In a world where facts don’t matter.
Stack high in transit (shit). Refers to fertilizer being transport in the lower parts of a ship. That is how they labeled the containers after finding out how hazardous it was to transport fertiziler in bulk and unsealed in a ship.
This is awful. Negligence is certainly involved. How many times does the lesson have to be learned that large amounts of dangerous substances are not to be stored in important and public areas? Now the bigger question must be answered. That stuff was sitting there for 6 years. What made it ignite now? Being suspicious of evil deeds deliberately engaged in is fully justified.
It is hard to not view this terrible incident as part of some greater context. Interesting to note is this bill recently introduced in the U.S. Congress “Countering Hezbollah in Lebanon’s Military Act of 2019” {S.1886}. This bill seeks pressure the Lebanese government to disarm and expel Hisballah from Lebonon by withholding security assistance funding for Lebanon. A small piece of a big puzzle, but together with recent border events on the Lebonon-Israel border, greater machinations in concoction is something for consideration.
Possibly a micro drone remotely controlled. The “accident” is just too convenient to be an accident.
An article in the Atlantic Council by Nicholas Blanford suggests that lots of people heard Israeli jets and drones right before the blast. Then he adds that Israeli jets are always flying around as if this somehow makes it irrelevant. Luckilyy for him, he and his family were far away in the mountains when it happened, although they live very close to the blast site.
Personally I think the rush to defend Israel and the concerted effort by the mainstream and Israeli media to blame incompetence / corruption / Hezbollah storing arms near population centres etc. is very distracting. It seems that anyone who was anyone knew that this huge pile of fertilizer was stored there and attempts to get rid of it had been frustrated by judges. It seemed like a sitting duck for a covert attack.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/officials-knew-danger-beirut-port-years-200805032416684.html
Throwback from the past in Haaretz: Should Israel Flatten Beirut to Destroy Hezbollah’s Missiles?
Most of Hezbollah’s 100,000 missile arsenal are hidden in civilian areas. Israel should examine now the ethical and logistical consequences of its first use of extreme conventional weapons against them.
Amitai Etzioni | Feb 15, 2016 7:00 PM
https://archive.is/j4xtU
The title of the article was subsequently changed to something less aggressive.
Regarding the article, I would like to include a comment I just made in the Cafe, but it’s appropriate here.
1. This announcement of a telegram sent by RF President Vladimir Vladimirovich to Lebanon:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram of condolences to Lebanese President Michel Naim Aoun in connection with the explosion in the port of the Lebanese capital ‒ Beirut.
“Please accept our deep condolences for the numerous human casualties and the death of former Lebanese Prime Minister Raul Hariri in a terrorist attack in the center of the Lebanese capital. While strongly condemning this heinous crime, I am confident that its organizers will not be able to undermine internal peace and stability in friendly Lebanon»
I very much doubt that he would have made such a categorical statement had he not been certain, from his very extensive and highly efficient Intel sources, that it was the truth.
[2] Secondly, there is an amateur video circling, which Nessa Sinchougova sent on her FB, and I picked up. Sadly, I have no idea how to do a copy/paste from FB to here. But it shows someone videoing some birds on the roof tops with the “target” background. You can then see a small black object flying very fast and straight – directly to the target, disappearing behind the towers. Within a second, the explosion kicks off.
A “kamikaze” bird? Somehow I doubt it.
Do I recall something about ships being hit by possibility of very fast missiles in Persian gulf….similarities??????
Where did you read this Pamela?
Because all I could find about the telegram contents was this TASS link:
https://tass.com/politics/1185807
No mention of terrorism
Pamela, the Putin quote you found most likely refer to the Hariri assassination in 2005, that also shook Beirut;
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/hariri-assassination-the-day-that-rocked-lebanon/ar-BB17uoCX?li=BBqdg4K
Does seem to be the case – I threw that in copied from a translation of a piece from a FB group calling themselves ‘Vladimir Putin” [nothing to do with the man, of course ] out of St. Petersburg.
Normally I check all things before I write them here, but my usual “quick link” to the Presidents page was not available and I was in a tearing rush.
It certainly seems odd that they would do that – I’ve not had reason to doubt them before either. Apologies if it has been misleading to anyone.
Pamela, perhaps you should check your Putin quote. He is not a man that makes statements like that without evidence. Here is the formal statement from Mr Putin.
“Condolences to President of Lebanon Michel Aoun
August 4, 2020
21:40
Vladimir Putin sent a message of condolence to President of the Republic of Lebanon Michel Aoun in connection with the loss of human life and large-scale destruction caused by an explosion in the port of Beirut.
“We in Russia share the grief of the Lebanese people. Please convey my words of sympathy and support to the victims’ families and friends and wishes for a speedy recovery to the injured,” the President of Russia noted.”
and here is the formal statement from Foreign Affairs Office:
“Comment by the Information and Press Department on Russia’s humanitarian operation in Lebanon
On August 4, a large explosion at the Port of Beirut killed many and caused significant destruction. A state of emergency was declared. Prime Minister of the Republic of Lebanon Hassan Diab asked foreign states for help.
In this connection, in line with the instructions of President of Russia Vladimir Putin, the Russian Emergencies Ministry in cooperation with the Foreign Ministry and the Federal Service for the Oversight of Consumer Protection and Welfare (Rospotrebnadzor) are developing a plan to provide emergency humanitarian aid to the friendly nation of Lebanon to relieve the disaster. It was decided to send a rescue group with the necessary equipment to Beirut for search-and-rescue operations in ruined buildings as well as an airmobile hospital of the Ministry of Emergencies and a mobile PCR laboratory of Rospotrebnadzor.
The Lebanese leadership welcomed Russia’s initiative and expressed its gratitude for the readiness to help. Now the parties are agreeing immediate hands-on steps to prepare Russia’s humanitarian operation in Lebanon that will be launched soon.”
I know Rafik Hariri (father, former PM), Saad Hariri (son, former PM), but who is Raul Hariri? Putin has more info than I, apparently…
That the explosion occured at a depot with a known critical danger storage component does lend credence to the “plausible denial” theory.
If you wanted to pick a target to “punish” Lebanon, wouldn’t this be just perfect? Circumstantial, I know, but men have gone to the gallows on less.
It at least helps to shade the nuances on the event.
All day long I think about this tragedy of beautiful Beirut, and I am not sure about anything….I’ve read all the articles available, all the comments… Still do not understand what really happened…
I disagree with Saker to eliminate the possibility of an attack from Israel ( am not talking about little tactical nukes here, because I have no Idea about them).. Maybe a conventional weapon?
Then, maybe really it was only a neglect on part of the Lebanese which has caused this unprecedented disaster?
What is the truth is too early to know.
But, definitely an ominous ‘clamor united’ of all the sold out MSM presstitutes is claiming a huge incompetence by the Lebanese. The welder, please….
To me, when they so unite, it is always and absolutely a symptom of stinking affair of lies and pushing an agenda of their paymasters.
After all Saker, did you not teach us to carefully examine all the things before we are to bring any conclusions.
Maybe to look at the Israel’s decision to finish with the Palestine and the Lebanons statements about it?
I am waiting for people who know and understand more than I to help. As Saker says, let us take time, no rush.
I add some links on the articles about lebanon by Andre Viltceheck, he knows a lot about this planet:
https://www.unz.com/avltchek/quo-vadis-lebanon/
Some more:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=ALeKk000DAZWgXw3111Vgbr4PKd3GvEFQQ%3A1596649105128&ei=ke4qX9GqB-eNwPAP3ee1gA0&q=Andre+Viltcheck+lebanon&oq=Andre+Viltcheck+lebanon&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIHCCEQChCgAToECAAQRzoECCMQJzoECC4QDToECAAQDToICAAQCBANEB46BggAEA0QHlD10wNY3LgEYMu-BGgAcAJ4AIABzwOIAZ0OkgEJMC43LjEuMC4xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiRt_e1zYTrAhXnBhAIHd1zDdAQ4dUDCAs&uact=5
Some are irritated by his writing, claiming he is too emotional, but I strongly disagree, he is a man on a mission for good, and somewhat poet…
Thank you…
When Saker and others have time, I eagerly await the thoughtful analysis on this terrible, terrible …sitrep
If this explosion was not an accident, there primary suspects for this horrific crime are:
1. Israel
2. America
3. America and Israel as partners in crime
Thus, both Israel and America have been attempting to destabilize Lebanon and weaken Hezbollah, as part of their wars against the Axis of Resistance in general.
For instance, America has been waging a terror war against Syria since at least 2011, where Hezbollah has deployed resistance fighters.
The USA and Israel have been launching terror attacks against Iran (like the murder of General Qasem Soleimani, the recent explosions in Iran; or the American-Israeli Stuxnet virus) for years.
And America has stealthily been waging one of its patented “pro-democracy” (sic) Hybrid Wars against Lebanon since last year at least.
The United States and Israel are by far the world’s leading terrorist nations. The fact they incessantly boast that they are the world’s leading democracies only demonstrates how Orwellian they truly are.
Destroying Lebanon’s port will further destabilize that country.
And sowing chaos is what the American Empire of Chaos specializes in.
Is Lebanon on the Verge of Chaos? Is Chaos Useful for the West and Israel?
https://syria360.wordpress.com/2019/12/20/is-lebanon-on-the-verge-of-chaos-is-chaos-useful-for-the-west-and-israel/
What Have the US and Protestors in Lebanon Achieved Over Iran and its Allies?
https://syria360.wordpress.com/2019/12/08/what-have-the-us-and-protestors-in-lebanon-achieved-over-iran-and-its-allies/
This explanation seems plausible — that Zionists meant to bomb a Hezbollah arms depot and didn’t realize the fertilizer warehouse was there. In any case, there was probably more dancing near a white van somewhere recently. https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2020/08/04/breaking-israel-bombed-beirut/