well it seems to be “just a matter of logistics” Biden says to try and get those Polish MIGS to Ukraine without being held responsible …..rather than principle as earlier ….
The content of this video isn’t anything new to regulars of the Saker. What is remarkable though is the fact that this channel has over 5 million(!) followers and growing. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy soon sees himself facing censure for his wrongthink, too, considering such numbers approach MSM outreach.
What is going on in negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?
Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said
By BEN CASPIT/MAARIV Published: MARCH 8, 2022 1 (https://www.jpost.com/international/article-700677)
Three days after Prime Minister Naftali Bennett’s meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, the details are beginning to emerge. According to people who were privy to details about the meeting, the current situation is that Russia has offered a “final” version of its offer to end the crisis, which Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky needs to accept or decline.
The proposal was deemed “difficult” but not “impossible,” the sources said. It is worse than what Zelensky would have gotten before the invasion but “the gaps between the sides are not great.”
Putin ordered his forces to halt – and the command for a ceasefire to be enacted was given – in order to wait for Zelensky’s decision, the sources said.
If Ukraine’s president rejects the proposal, French President Emmanuel Macron’s assumption that “the worst is before us” is prone to happen. In that scenario, Putin will order his army to put the pedal to the metal and change the face of Ukraine.
Zelensky is torn, the sources said. On the one hand, he is enjoying immense popularity and has become the perfect Che Guevara. On the other hand, he knows full well what the Argentinian revolutionary and guerrilla leader’s end was.
Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said. Assumptions are that he will be forced to give up the contested Donbas region, officially recognize the pro-Russian dissidents in Ukraine, pledge that Ukraine will not join NATO, shrink his army and declare neutrality. If he declines the proposal, the outcome may be terrible: thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of Ukrainians will die and there is a high probability that his country will completely lose its independence.
According to the sources knowledgeable about the content of the talks, Bennett’s trip to Moscow was not meant to mediate between the sides and no arbitration proposal was officially offered. Rather, the trip was meant to get a sense of what Putin’s position was, what his state of mind was, and what his red lines were, and report them to the West.
The real negotiations, according to the sources, are happening directly between Russia and Ukraine and are much more serious than what the West has been saying. Kyiv has not shared with the West what has been going on in the negotiations since they do not want to damper the worldwide sense of emergency.
In reality, however, the Ukrainians know full well what Putin’s demands are and they know they will have to make a dramatic decision in the coming days.
No one will pressure the Ukrainians, the sources said; the decision is Zelensky’s.
One thing is certain, however: Putin is determined, and the growing complications since the invasion will not deter him. On the contrary, he cannot turn back, so the more the war becomes difficult and casualties mount, the more he will be pressured to show real achievements.
The impression is that, despite the fact that the predictions of a quick victory over the Ukrainian army have been proven false, Putin is as determined as ever.
How can they say that? The gaps are great, or else the Ukranians are surrendering. Zelensky said yesterday that Russia will lose, so the sources are wrong on this
“Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said. Assumptions are that he will be forced to give up the contested Donbas region, officially recognize the pro-Russian dissidents in Ukraine, pledge that Ukraine will not join NATO, shrink his army and declare neutrality.”
He also has to accept that Crimea is part of Russia, a Russian demand which Putin communicated to Macron (besides denazification and demilitarization). So, “Ze” is finished politically in Ukraine, after it’s over.
“According to the sources knowledgeable about the content of the talks, Bennett’s trip to Moscow was not meant to mediate between the sides and no arbitration proposal was officially offered. Rather, the trip was meant to get a sense of what Putin’s position was, what his state of mind was, and what his red lines were, and report them to the West.”
That’s a good one. Sure thing!
“and the growing complications since the invasion will not deter him.”
What growing complications could there be other than standard complications? None (if Russia is Russia and Ukraine is Ukraine). In the Donbass, Russia seems to be close to victory. In the other places they are dealing with civilians (their goal not to hurt them so Ukraine is easier to deal with afterwards, besides love). Waiting, not going full force, is part of their strategy (logically) because the more it waits the harder it gets for Zelensky’s side. Zelensky can later be blamed for not surrendering realistically, that is, for ordering a fight to the last civilian (distributing weapons, telling them to use this device or that), which implies not ever surrendering.
“The impression is that, despite the fact that the predictions of a quick victory over the Ukrainian army have been proven false..”
Since the stated goal is denazification, demilitarization, and Crimea recognition, the conflict duration does nor define success or failure for them. (Putin told the media that it’s going “according to plan.”)
This is one of the last settlements left before reaching Donetsk city proper from the south. That means that Ukrop flanks at the very edge of the “Great Cauldron” are finally starting to come into danger of encirclement very soon. Things will continue to snowball from here as RF forces continue to consolidate in this area and concentrate greater and greater firepower onto smaller and smaller groupings of settlements.
And as you can see by the map, there are already advancements and fighting in the next few settlements north/northwest of there, so they too will fall soon and then Donetsk’s southern end will be fully connected to the advancing frontline, and the Great Encirclement will truly begin in force
Can someone please explain why there are lots of videos which show that there are no troops in Kiev. No fighting, no bombs and no planes overhead. Report say that the Russians are hundreds of miles away and life in Kiev i
s normal. They also suggest that pictures in the MSM of fighting is fake and they are using actors to push the war story to the gullable. I don’t trust anything that comes from the MSM.
Is the Southfront Website down? I can’t access it since about 11 am.
well it seems to be “just a matter of logistics” Biden says to try and get those Polish MIGS to Ukraine without being held responsible …..rather than principle as earlier ….
Seem they disabled Southfront and moon of Alabama is our of reach onde Google search engine.
It’s accessible in the U.S. right now.
Amidst the onslaught of Western anti-Russia propaganda, there is still some glimmers of hope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxMVcrvtqqs
The content of this video isn’t anything new to regulars of the Saker. What is remarkable though is the fact that this channel has over 5 million(!) followers and growing. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy soon sees himself facing censure for his wrongthink, too, considering such numbers approach MSM outreach.
We are not alone, even in Zone A.
I looked at the guy. I’ll never succeed!
Great link to the YouTuber with 5 million subscribers. Normies no longer trust regimist Media. Regimist Media should be simply ignored.
Samizdat is winning the hearts and minds.
What is going on in negotiations between Russia and Ukraine?
Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said
By BEN CASPIT/MAARIV Published: MARCH 8, 2022 1 (https://www.jpost.com/international/article-700677)
Three days after Prime Minister Naftali Bennett’s meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, the details are beginning to emerge. According to people who were privy to details about the meeting, the current situation is that Russia has offered a “final” version of its offer to end the crisis, which Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky needs to accept or decline.
The proposal was deemed “difficult” but not “impossible,” the sources said. It is worse than what Zelensky would have gotten before the invasion but “the gaps between the sides are not great.”
Putin ordered his forces to halt – and the command for a ceasefire to be enacted was given – in order to wait for Zelensky’s decision, the sources said.
If Ukraine’s president rejects the proposal, French President Emmanuel Macron’s assumption that “the worst is before us” is prone to happen. In that scenario, Putin will order his army to put the pedal to the metal and change the face of Ukraine.
Zelensky is torn, the sources said. On the one hand, he is enjoying immense popularity and has become the perfect Che Guevara. On the other hand, he knows full well what the Argentinian revolutionary and guerrilla leader’s end was.
Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said. Assumptions are that he will be forced to give up the contested Donbas region, officially recognize the pro-Russian dissidents in Ukraine, pledge that Ukraine will not join NATO, shrink his army and declare neutrality. If he declines the proposal, the outcome may be terrible: thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of Ukrainians will die and there is a high probability that his country will completely lose its independence.
According to the sources knowledgeable about the content of the talks, Bennett’s trip to Moscow was not meant to mediate between the sides and no arbitration proposal was officially offered. Rather, the trip was meant to get a sense of what Putin’s position was, what his state of mind was, and what his red lines were, and report them to the West.
The real negotiations, according to the sources, are happening directly between Russia and Ukraine and are much more serious than what the West has been saying. Kyiv has not shared with the West what has been going on in the negotiations since they do not want to damper the worldwide sense of emergency.
In reality, however, the Ukrainians know full well what Putin’s demands are and they know they will have to make a dramatic decision in the coming days.
No one will pressure the Ukrainians, the sources said; the decision is Zelensky’s.
One thing is certain, however: Putin is determined, and the growing complications since the invasion will not deter him. On the contrary, he cannot turn back, so the more the war becomes difficult and casualties mount, the more he will be pressured to show real achievements.
The impression is that, despite the fact that the predictions of a quick victory over the Ukrainian army have been proven false, Putin is as determined as ever.
“’the gaps between the sides are not great.’”
How can they say that? The gaps are great, or else the Ukranians are surrendering. Zelensky said yesterday that Russia will lose, so the sources are wrong on this
“Zelensky can fortify Ukraine’s independence but will have to pay a heavy price, the sources said. Assumptions are that he will be forced to give up the contested Donbas region, officially recognize the pro-Russian dissidents in Ukraine, pledge that Ukraine will not join NATO, shrink his army and declare neutrality.”
He also has to accept that Crimea is part of Russia, a Russian demand which Putin communicated to Macron (besides denazification and demilitarization). So, “Ze” is finished politically in Ukraine, after it’s over.
“According to the sources knowledgeable about the content of the talks, Bennett’s trip to Moscow was not meant to mediate between the sides and no arbitration proposal was officially offered. Rather, the trip was meant to get a sense of what Putin’s position was, what his state of mind was, and what his red lines were, and report them to the West.”
That’s a good one. Sure thing!
“and the growing complications since the invasion will not deter him.”
What growing complications could there be other than standard complications? None (if Russia is Russia and Ukraine is Ukraine). In the Donbass, Russia seems to be close to victory. In the other places they are dealing with civilians (their goal not to hurt them so Ukraine is easier to deal with afterwards, besides love). Waiting, not going full force, is part of their strategy (logically) because the more it waits the harder it gets for Zelensky’s side. Zelensky can later be blamed for not surrendering realistically, that is, for ordering a fight to the last civilian (distributing weapons, telling them to use this device or that), which implies not ever surrendering.
“The impression is that, despite the fact that the predictions of a quick victory over the Ukrainian army have been proven false..”
Since the stated goal is denazification, demilitarization, and Crimea recognition, the conflict duration does nor define success or failure for them. (Putin told the media that it’s going “according to plan.”)
Big news: RF/DPR forces have taken Novotroiske, a settlement almost 20km north of Volnovakha which was just recently captured a day or two ago.
https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1501611267118796804
https://twitter.com/hlebzhyu/status/1501594341801959431
This is one of the last settlements left before reaching Donetsk city proper from the south. That means that Ukrop flanks at the very edge of the “Great Cauldron” are finally starting to come into danger of encirclement very soon. Things will continue to snowball from here as RF forces continue to consolidate in this area and concentrate greater and greater firepower onto smaller and smaller groupings of settlements.
And as you can see by the map, there are already advancements and fighting in the next few settlements north/northwest of there, so they too will fall soon and then Donetsk’s southern end will be fully connected to the advancing frontline, and the Great Encirclement will truly begin in force
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1501595022055120904
Can someone please explain why there are lots of videos which show that there are no troops in Kiev. No fighting, no bombs and no planes overhead. Report say that the Russians are hundreds of miles away and life in Kiev i
s normal. They also suggest that pictures in the MSM of fighting is fake and they are using actors to push the war story to the gullable. I don’t trust anything that comes from the MSM.