As you probably know, the two Russian journalists who worked for the LifeNews, Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saichenko, were finally freed and brought back home via Grozny in Chechnia. You might even have heard that the President of Chechnia, Ramzan Kadyrov, played a special role in their liberation. I think that the importance of this event might be under-estimated by many observers and I want to briefly comment on that.
It all really began in Crimea where, before the operation of the Russian Polite Armed Men in Green (PAMG), when there were some very serious tensions between the various parties including the Muslim Tatars. At that time, Ramzan Kadyrov for the first time made a statement from faraway Grozny saying that he will not tolerate any “abuses against the Chechen” minority in Crimea. Since there are not all that many Chechens in Crimea and since soon thereafter PAMG solved the problem anyway, this statement was rapidly forgotten. But think again, besides being a statement in support of the Chechens in Crimea, who was that statement directed against? Clearly, the threatened party was not the pro-Russian one, but the pro-Ukrainian forces, including those Tatars (mainly linked to Turkey) who had been manipulated by the USA to take action against the pro-Russian population of Crimea. It is now clear that what happened in this instance is that Kadyrov did openly say that which Putin could not (for obvious political reasons). In the end, it was Putin who eventually engaged his PAMG, but it was Kadyrov who had made the threat.
This time again, Kadyrov got involved by issuing an amazing statement which most commentators overlooked. Here is what he said about the two kidnapped reporters:
The Ukraine’s leadership continues to use Fascist methods. We demand the immediate release of Sidyakin and Saychenko. If the folks in Kiev don’t come back to their senses and do not let these journalists go back home, we will not stand by in silence and watch as mock them, for them to their knees and keep them with bags on their heads. We have the forces and the capabilities to influence those who are holding these journalists in captivity. I therefore advise them to free these journalists or otherwise we will have resort to some tough actions.
I don’t know about you, but when I read that I went “wow!”. There is a Chechen President (who is also and-ex warlord) who is clearly giving the Ukies an ultimatum which they better not ignore. They didn’t.
During 4 days of secret negotiations a group of Chechen negotiators sent by Kadyrov flew to Kiev in his personal jet and had some very frank conversations with the right people in Kiev. The Chechens probably used the typical mix of threats and bribes to prevail and, as a direct result of this operation, the two reporters were freed.
What is very interesting, is that there is mounting evidence that Putin was involved all along even though he never said a word about it. First, it is well know that Putin is personally very close to Kadyrov and that a strong friendship binds these two men who have immense respect for each other. But now we can also make sense of a comment made by Putin who declared that the kidnapped journalists were kept in a “zindan” (a prison hole in the ground), something which he apparently learned through Kadyrov’s people in Kiev. Finally, one has to know Kadrov’s quasi obsession in stressing at every step that he is always acting exclusively with the full support of the Kremlin to completely exclude the possibility of a unilateral action on Kadyrov’s side.
This time again, Kadyrov said that which Putin could not say.
It was also interesting for me to hear the testimony of the two reporters who told that they understood that something dramatic had changed in their condition when they heard a voice pick up the phone and say “salaam aleikum”. Soon thereafter their handcuffs were taken off and they were told “take off the hood off your heads, you are safe now, you are under the protection of the President of Chechnia“.
Why do I consider this so important?
Because the image of Chechnia and the Chechens is radically changing in Russia. The media openly calls Kadyrov a hero and Russian citizens rejoice when they hear the Islamic “salaam aleikum” because they know that they are now safe. This is huge! What a change from only 10 years ago.
Kadyrov in reality plays a role which is a much bigger one than “just” the President of Chechnia (and a hugely successful one at that!). He is clearly Putin’s “ally number 1”, especially in security matters, and the two men clearly work closely together as a kind of “tag team”. This kind of special role does a lot to restore the pride of the Chechen people and it also does a lot to change the terrible image many Russians had of Chechens as a result of the horrors of the time when Chechnia was ruled by psychopathic Wahabis. Instead of being “terrorist barbarians” the Chechens are now increasingly seen as tough and reliable allies of Russia and of the Russian President.
As for the Chechens, they are still feared, but this time outside Russia. During the 08.08.08 war the Georgians ran as fast as they could as soon as they heard that the Chechen battalion had arrived. Nowadays, the Ukraine is full of rumors that Chechens have arrived to support the Donetsk and Lugansk republics. To my knowlege this has not happened (yet?) and apparently there is some confusion between a “Vostok battalion” (Eastern battalion) in the Ukraine and the Chechen “Vostok battalion” which saw action in 08.08.08. The former is composed of local volunteers from the Donbass while the latter is now formally part of the 291st Motor-Rifle regiment of the 42nd Guard Motor-Rifle Division of the Russian armed forces. But I would not put it past Kadyrov to send in Chechen special forces as “volunteers” into the Donbass if things get really ugly there. Of course, the key thing would be to get Putin’s go ahead for such a move.
I find that absolutely remarkable. By 2000 Chechnia was in ruins, a huge amount of Chechens had been killed, Grozny was was completely destroyed and plans were made to abandon the city and build a new capital elsewhere. Almost all western experts were unanimous in their conclusion that the guerrilla war and terrorism operations would never stop and that Chechnia would become a “constantly bleeding wound in the soft underbelly of Russia” or some equally stupid cliche. Now, 14 years later, Grozny is a superb city, traditional Islam has completely replaced Wahabism, Chechen terrorists and warlords have all been eliminated one by one, Chechnia has a very low crime rate, French actor Gerard Depardieu has an apartment in downtown Grozny, Russians increasingly see Chechens as their toughest and most dependable allies and the enemies of Russia literally tremble in fear at the possibility that “the Chechens might come”. Who could have ever imagined that?!
Will that be enough to heal the wounds of the past?
I don’t know for sure, but I fervently hope so. For one thing I will always blame the regime of Eltsin and his Jewish oligarchs more than Dudaev and his Chechen followers for the first Chechen war. True, what the Chechens did during and after that war was simply beyond barbaric and I fully supported the 2nd Chechen war in which Russia simply did what had to be done (and did so brilliantly). So I believe that both sides share the guilt and the pain of what happened. Still, Russia is so much bigger and more powerful that the Chechens who had no chance as soon as the Russian people supported the military action (which was not the case in the first Chechen war) and I believe that Akhmad Kadyrov had the wisdom to see that this war would end up in the quasi-total elimination of the Chechen people and that it had to be stopped. I think that Putin also understood this and that he believed that such an outcome would also be a disaster for Russia. So these two men did the unthinkable and stopped a war which was about to turn into a total war until one side would wipe out the other. It is as easy for me to write these terrible words as it is for you to read them. But think about it, we are truly talking about an unspeakable horror which almost happened. And the murder of Akhmad Kadyrov could have made this outcome inevitable had it not been for his son Ramzan who replaced his father and did an absolutely brilliant job to make his dream come true: Chechnia today is both Islamic and free. It has a huge degree of autonomy, but it also is the most faithful and strongest ally of the Russian President. I would even say that Chechnia is the single most important factor of stability in the entire Caucasus region.
I am under no illusion about the possibility of a “Ukrainian Kadyrov” appearing on the world scene anytime soon. But if such a miracle could happen in Chechnia, I want to at least hope that it is possible in a future Ukraine, one freed from oligarchs and Nazis as much as Chechnia is now Wahabi-free.
Hope dies last and this is a hope I simply want to keep in my heart, no matter how naive it might seem to the “realists” out there. I don’t want to believe that a “Banderastan” can survive in what is a Christian holy land for which literally millions of people died to keep in Orthodox and free. Right now the picture out of the Ukraine is a terrible one. But Chechnia in 2000 was even worse. So I will keep hoping.
The Saker
“Now, 14 years later, Grozny is a superb city, traditional Islam has completely replaced Wahabism”
Traditional Islam is “radical” Islam. What we like to pretend is “moderate/traditional/real” Islam isn’t, it is something we Westerners impose through imposing relatively secular military regimes and strongmen. You know real/traditional Christianity is Orthodoxy, and not Protestant homosexual clergy upholding abortion, just so is the Islam that we Westerners like a modern fake mutations.
@Anonymous:Traditional Islam is “radical” Islam
By the same logic you could say that Orthodoxy is “radical” Christianity. And you would be wrong. Being “radical” is neither good nor bad. What matters is “radical in what?”.
I personally only have respect for “radical” religions and what I don’t like is what I call the “decaf” version of religion. And yes, the Wahabis are also radicals. So the problem is not radicalism or not, but what it upholds. As for Chechnia, Islam in the Caucasus is very different from the Wahabi one. You can call the Islam of Kadyrov “radical” or not, but I welcome it and I see that as a fantastic opportunity for Russia and the best weapon against the Wahabis. Ditto for Shia Islam, which I also see as a natural ally of Russia and also a powerful weapon against Wahabism.
The Saker
Though I do not know about Religion, but it is nothing but a belief. Although every religion has its good and bad side, it is not the followers but the leaders(political as well as so called religious) use it for their personal goals. History has shown what a good or a bad leader can do and to what effect. Before making any decisions a little thought can make a huge difference. But, it is only hope that have brought us to today.
Keep hoping and hope for good.
Biswajit
Though I do not know about Religion, but it is nothing but a belief. Although every religion has its good and bad side, it is not the followers but the leaders(political as well as so called religious) use it for their personal goals. History has shown what a good or a bad leader can do and to what effect. Before making any decisions a little thought can make a huge difference. But, it is only hope that have brought us to today.
Keep hoping and hope for good.
Biswajit
Thanks for the article. A lot of things I didn’t know. Eplains why zionist Jews hate Kadyrov so much.
I had been thinking that Kadyrov’s role in getting the journalists released was important, and that his role in the Ukraine is deliberately kept understated but is very effective.
Sometimes it is unbelievable to me when I look back growing up in Saudi Arabia and the version of the Chechnyan war we were fed.
Whabbi Islam has really come full circle finally with almost a mutually beneficial co-existance with the Anglo-Zionist empire’s objectives. It is an alliance forged in the melting pot of individualistic-self-centred-self righteous-greed filled tyranny.
Had Kadyrov not done what he did, Chechnya would have been a launch pad for the NATO into Russia.
Sheikh imran Hosien in his many lectures states that Rus/russia will one day become allies….that Islam and the Eastern church will come together and defeat the evil West…i think we are starting to see that unfold….let us hope….
There are Chechens in Syria, fighting for Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS, and Assad too. That certainly makes them sound like reliable, known quantities. Kadyrov was the intermediary for the large Russian govt bribe (I assume it was very large) that got the LifeNews guys out, but is that supposed to increase our confidence? That Kadyrov can make the Kiev junta accept bribes? We have a youtube clip of the Chechens who are now serving in the Donbas Vostok Brigade, and I suppose that in his oriental way, Kadyrov has sent them from his personal palace guard. Is that supposed to be reassuring? I know who Kadyrov is. He’s a traitor to his people, and a tyrant to boot. The Chechens are not a Russian or even a Russian-speaking people at all, and hence quite unlike either the Ossetians or the inhabitants of the Donbass. Kadyrov started as a Chechen rebel leader, then deserted them when he found he could no longer retain control of the rebellion, because Bandar Bush was taking it over with his Wahhabis. And none of this arouses even the tiniest iota of confidence, frankly, nor should it in you. But you are one of those who thinks (or at least says) that Putin is a god among men, and therefore that anybody who serves him is godlike too. Well, I think otherwise. To me, Putin is a piece of shit, actually. I have never believed in him the way all the pseudo-left sheeple now obediently do. That is why I keep on and on reporting a ten year old story that says from a consummately insider point of view that he is in the pocket of the Lubavitchers (as is Dugin). And Boris Berezovsky, the Jewish vykrest, brought Putin to power by means of an unnecessary Chechen war started by Shamil Basayev, to whom he (Berezovsky) personally paid very large sums. What does that tell you?
It tells me that you are a one-note fucking clown who needs to find a hobby.
God…. you are trolling the saker too!? It must be exhausting being a 24/7 troll. Go away
Martial law has been declared in Donetsk People’s Republic. According to Pushlin, “The main purpose is to clear the Republic’s territory of Ukrainian military units.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/733252
Pushilin is not keen on Poroshenko’s stated intention of coming to Donbass and will speak w/Kiev regarding hostage exchange and Ukie troop withdrawal only through intermediaries.
@Rowan Berkeley:What does that tell you?
It tell me that you are an ignorant, bigoted, arrogant and rude idiot. Exactly the kind that I don’t want on this blog. So, congrats, you are the first one I am booting out by name and this was the last post on this blog you have signed with you name. You can still try to post as anonymous or under a new name, but as “Rowan Berkeley” you are now officially the first resident of this blog’s trash bin.
Good riddance and bye-bye!
The Saker
@ Rowan Berkeley,
Q: I have never believed in him the way all the pseudo-left sheeple now obediently do. T
R: A ‘broad brush’ remains a ‘broad brush’ no matter how impressive the ‘painting.’
Should I add ‘all intelligent people agree on that’ to it, to make it a bit more condescending?
I agree. Great Analysis. Contains Much more facts than Hope. I World like to translate it into German and publish the article in my Blog.
A nice article on the transformation of Chechanya written from a middle-Eastern perspective.
(About the site: even though the site is probably run by US state department insiders, it is pretty unbiased.)
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/01/chechnya-mideast-diplomacy-muslim-outreach-ramzan-kadyrov.html
@Hartmut Beyerl: if you translate it into German I will be both honored and grateful.
Kind regards,
The Saker
Today the Western Press is doing its very best to brush off the total victory of France’s National Front and Britain’s UKIP in free substantive elections.
While you, Saker, are writing an eye-popping account of an historical reality no one is aware of in the West.
One surely must ask one’s self why there is this enormous discrepancy between excellent journalism on your part and dreck on the part of the Western Press.
Keep up the good work.
Saker, this is a remarkable outcome and justification for hope.
Part of our responsibility as thinking beings is to attempt to find paths out of the troubles set before us by the others who will not think responsibly. The past has shown that such troubles can sometimes be turned around quite efficiently when enough good minds have become engaged.
When desire for a theory of order follows a Time of Troubles, the abstract, the Platonic, the symbolic, the spiritual, may gradually attain to a valid structural model. The affairs of peoples move much more rapidly today and are often full of surprises. Is this to be the decade of the easternization of Europe? History likes patterns based on the circle (arcs, waves, echoes, and perhaps spirals.)
Here is a past example of a such a reaching for order. It is from the introduction to a new rules of falconry by Tsar Alexis Mikhailovich in 1656 Transl. S.A. Zenkovsky:
INTRODUCTION
The Sovereign Tsar and Great Prince, Alexis Mikhailovich, autocrat of all Great and Little and White Russia, has decreed this new model and rules for the honor and exaltation of His Majesty’s beautiful and glorious sport of falconry.
And in accordance with his Majesty’s decree let their be nothing done without stateliness, or without well-regulated and beautiful order; and let all things have their honor and their place and their model regulated by writ, because, though a thing be small if it be in due form honored, well proportioned, harmonious, stately, no one will blame it or find fault with it; everyone will praise, everyone will honor and admire, that even such a small detail is honored and regulated and ordered in due measure. …
Endlessly glorious and admirable is the preying of the gyrfalcon. Astonishing and heart comforting is the hunt of young hawks. Most attractive is the movement and the preying of the peregrine falcon. …
Brian
Hmmmm. Wikipedia is not Kadyrov’s friend.
In fact it is a laundry list of allegations against him.
What an amazing turnaround and thanks so much for telling the tale.
You didn’t mention, Saker, the decades long ongoing US/CIA effort at fomenting chaos in the Caucasus via Chechnya. The tables appear to have really turned on those sobs…
From Wayne Madsen, April 29, 2013.
Through a myriad of «civil society» organizations, the United States has been financing Chechen groups inside the autonomous republic, in Russia, and abroad. However, large portions of U.S. assistance money has «bled» over to support Chechen and other North Caucasus terrorist groups, which the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence agencies insist on referring to as «separatist guerrillas», «nationalists», «insurgents», and «rebels», instead of terrorists.
complete article at:
http://orientalreview.org/2013/04/29/washingtons-civil-society-and-cia-financing-of-chechen-and-other-caucasus-regional-terrorists/
Another Anonymous has said that “traditional Islam is ‘radical’ Islam.” Let us hope so; the closer one adheres to the original meaning of the Koran, the better.
All this hinges, of course, on the word “radical”, perhaps one of the most misunderstood words in the English language. “Radical” is from Latin, meaning “root” (duh!). Anything radical is anything closest to the original, closest to the root meaning of things. Using language correctly, radical = conservative.
While I would argue that Orthodoxy is not radical Christianity, I readily acknowledge that Orthodoxy is the closest thing we have to radical Christianity.
Wahhabism, like “born-again” Christianity, is anything but radical, being based on Sharia, an outgrowth of hadith, the various interpretive glosses on the Koran.
To clarify a bit, I consider the letters of Paul to be hadith, Paul’s interpretation of Christ’s message. The writers of the five or six most used versions of Islam’s hadith, like Paul with Jesus, did not know Mohammed and wrote after the fact. Wahhabism is a modern interpretation of medieval interpretations.
Traditional Islam is not radical, but has found ways to accommodate itself to other faiths, over 1400 years has learned tolerance and shown far more consideration for other faiths than has Christianity.
Saker, try as you might to keep the ranters and flamers off your comments page, I say you still have a tough row to hoe dealing with the general ignorance of people.
There is definitely a group of Ossetian volunteers (both North and South), and apparently some Abkhaz as well in the Vostok battalion. (Btw, Ossetians are not “Russian” or “Russian-speaking”, but the majority are Orthodox Christians). Ukrainians of course call both groups “Chechens” any chance they get. It seems there are a few Chechens with the Cossacks in Antratsyt, but nowhere near enough to make a difference.
Anlso, it makes sense to be more afraid not of Chechens, but of people who beat them last time, namely Chechen war vets like Igor Stelkov and others over there. The only people who can match that kind of experience on the Ukie side are mercenaries, and those have their own issues. And the use of zindans by the Ukies was a very bad idea in this regard. Seems to have awakened memories that should have been left undisturbed.
Saker, There is no strong man in Ukraine.There is no strong man in military, otherwise, the army would have been be properly fed, and paid, and no one could walk all over them. Without a strong army (at least relatively speaking), there will be no kind of political strong man you are looking for.
As for Putin, Russian people is very fortunate to have a leader who is strong, intelligent, and care about them, and the country’s future, and I know that Russian people knows. What else any one says are not important.
I looked into your old posts, and was hoping to find some thing regarding Chinese and Russian cooperation, I found none. Do you know how people in Russia thinks about it, or how are you think about, does it worth a post?
J
The Saker
26 May, 2014 01:56
Thank You and thanks for the education on what’s going on at this time and the past.
@Rowan Berkeley:What does that tell you?
It tell me that you are an ignorant, bigoted, arrogant and rude idiot. Exactly the kind that I don’t want on this blog. So, congrats, you are the first one I am booting out by name and this was the last post on this blog you have signed with you name. You can still try to post as anonymous or under a new name, but as “Rowan Berkeley” you are now officially the first resident of this blog’s trash bin.
Dear Saker
You smelled a rat and you were correct, keep that way.
From Slovenia
@ Anonymous,
Q: …and dreck on the part of the Western Press.
R: Did you know that China, Russia beat US in new corporate transparency report?
If anyone would’ve told me 12 years ago that I would turn to Russia to get better informed, I would have laughed my head off. I vividly remember the pictures of dead Russian tank personnel lying smoldering in the streets of Grozny [Chechen WI]. When I read The Saker’s article about a Chechen hand in re/solving this problem, I realized once more how the rot has infested every single MSM I know off.
And people keep yakking about Hitler and Goebbels. No wonder Goebbels admired Edward Bernays [Freud’s nephew].
YES. Hope is the order of the day. It’s happening! I do believe that the oligarchy everywhere will be dealt with, in one way or another, and that it won’t be decades from now.
This article was so informative and uplifting! Improved my mood immensely, thank you so much!
–Ann P
Saker,
I would see the Chechin involvement as a sort of ‘favor’ to Putin. What would motivate Kadyrov to become involved in Ukraine otherwise?
I’m also not sure that payment of bribes to Kiev bosses was necessary, the mere arrival of a messenger from Kadyrov would send a clear warning of things to come.
I recall the hostage situation (in Lebanon?) in Soviet days and the KGB’s ‘approach’ to ‘mediate’ a solution.
T1
I wanted to respond to the commenter from a previous thread who said there was evidence (and indeed there is) of Chechens and Ossetians fighting alongside the Donbass resistance. What the commenter got wrong is trying to claim as the EuroMaidanPR freaks do that the uprising is majority Russian rather than being 70-80% former Ukrainian nationals now fighting for NovoRossiya.
Commanders like ‘Demon’ and Strelkov are the exception not the rule as more Ukrainians with military experience come into the picture. But it should be noted that Strelkov’s authenticated dispatch from the other day before his blog was DDOS’d mentioned ‘allies’ with a written smile, knowing likely that Chechen or Ossetian combat veterans were about to make mincemeat out of some National Guard thugs. (This as others have remarked is the key, dividing the Ukrainian ARMY from the regime and driving a wedge between the reluctant Army and the bloodthirsty maniacs and ultranationalists of the Nazi Guard and Right Sector spin off groups).
Thus far with half the so-called ‘Donbass batalion’ wiped out last week after that idiot Tymchuk was gloating Donbass would drive on to ‘liberate’ Donetsk for the junta, the resistance is drawing closer to that goal. But they still have difficulty consolidating law and order behind the lines or maintaining what was already a distressed economy in the liberated areas that Ahkmetov is trying to buy back for Kiev. And we can expect more false flag attacks now that Poroshenko is in charge trying to whip the Army into attacking towns and cities and failed attempts to turn the people against the rebellion.
These are the serious challenges but Saker is right if the hellhole that was Chechnya/Grozny in 2000 can be rendered habitable and relatively stable again, then there is hope for the Donbass and possibly the rest of Ukraine.
American Kulak
Part 1 in reply to 25 May, 2014 16:48 on Saturday SITREP thread and subsequent.
I have yet to see hard core indisputable evidence of American mercenaries in action in Ukraine (if you accept that this video allegedly from Kharkov is a fake) such as an American merc being verifiably caught with his credentials shown to the world by Donbass rebels. IMO the video below is a fake but it was produced in Russia by GRU as a psyop/psychological warning to the real American mercs in Ukraine of what could happen to them — not only dying or getting wounded in another nation’s failed war, but the possibility of being captured and paraded for the YouTube cameras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFBU4GwBa1s
The grunting “I’m an American citizen” GRU warning video to Greystone that made it on RT program “In the Know” and was also posted on Military.com
https://twitter.com/INTHENOWRT/status/466921086815576064
Der Spiegel is a well-respected publication and they would not have picked up the Welt am Sonntag report about 400 American Blackwater type mercenaries fighting (their emphasis not mine) the ground in Ukraine in addition to the dozens of CIA and FBI agents in Kiev without confirming it with their BND/German government sources.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK9gMhRZA2U
Recall that the rumors and Russian government allegations about Greystone/Blackwater operating in Ukraine began with the deployment of these oligarch-funded personal bodyguards dressed not in Ukrainian uniforms but Blackwater-type regalia in Donetsk back in April. At the very least these are Ukrainian elite internal troops with NATO country equipment and training:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576490/Are-Blackwater-active-Ukraine-Videos-spark-talk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html
I consider positive identification of Americans or Brits either training Ukrainian troops or actually directing them near the battle front in Southeastern Ukraine only a matter of time.
American Kulak
Part 2 reply to the guy who said ‘there are 100s of Russians fighting alongside the Donbass resistance and among its commanders, where are the Anglo-American/NATO country mercenaries fighting for Kiev?’
http://shaltaibaltai.deviantart.com/art/In-Slovyansk-Ukraine-arrested-Danish-mercenary-451799435
The above comes from ANNA News Service and in their report they claim to have positively ID’d at least one Danish mercenary who served in Iraq and is apparently a sniper in Ukraine. Note the sniper training in light of the mysterious and apparently foreign origin of some snipers that German TV confirmed shot BOTH Berkut riot police and Maidan fighters in Kiev:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJ-ucnyPU
German TV report with English subtitles — if bribed SBU weren’t willing to shoot both sides to provoke a successful coup at Maidan, maybe Danish or other EU merc vets of Afghanistan were?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdPNxlyohRs
We also have the above footage of a ‘Ukrainian’ National Guard uniform-wearing soldier speaking fluent Italian to Italian journalists. There is also another clip on YouTube showing non-Slavic looking Ukrainian National Guardsmen. They are confronted by the angry locals and reply to them in very broken Russian outside of a village:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIOfm5r8v8
These men appear to be either Europeans, South Africans or Americans of undetermined origin. My best guess would be Balts. Please note during the Donbass Battalion raid on Krasnoyarmsk which resulted in the deaths of two unarmed protesters on May 11, several Donbass members refused to answer questions shouted in Russian or Ukrainian and in English as well, suggesting they did not want to speak with There is also the presidential decree issued by Turchnynov granting immediate Ukrainian citizenship to any Polish or Lithuanian national who serves in the armed forces of Ukraine. I cannot find a source on that report but will soon. If that isn’t a dead giveaway that NATO member citizens are fighting alongside Ukrainian forces, what besides the photograph of a Lithiuanian patch on a Urkainian National Guardsman is? Relevant background here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian%E2%80%93Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_Brigade
Thus unlike the other commenters I won’t deny that the vids EuroMaidanPR, those mostly lying pack of Banderite hyenas put out, happen to be correct in one case — some of the fighters alongside the majority Ukrainian citizen uprising are in fact Russians, Chechens or South Ossetians. But in light of the overwhelming evidence of foreign involvement in advisory and everything but direct combat roles outlined above, my reply to you sir is so what? Russia has a border with Ukraine, Denmark, Italy and the United States do not.
American Kulak
@Rowan Berkeley: There are Chechens in Syria, fighting for Jabhat al-Nusra, ISIS …
These are two groups of people: (i) the mujahedeens who were expelled (or got out) and now find it impossible to return to Chechanya or other parts of the Caucasus.
(ii) those Chechans living in Turkey who were forced by the Turkish Intelligence to go to fight in Syria. (Check the Al Monitor link given below.)
In short, they have no connection to the people living in the present Chechanya, or to the present Chechan state.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2014/04/turkey-syria-opposition-groups-support-kuwait.html
Last comment of the evening — here’s a Tweet showing Ukrainian TV depicting long lines to vote in the ‘separatist’ referendum of May 11 in the Donbass with turnout for Sunday’s Kiev-run presidential elections:
https://twitter.com/volkova_v/status/470550063396442112
Of course, I’m not holding my breath for the same idiots who rage against Russian propaganda in Forbes to admit that now entirely State-dominated Ukrainian TV lies just as much or more.
American Kulak
The Ukie ultranationalist capacity to deny reality is awesome, behold their angry retorts of ‘no proof’ that the maniac Lyashko tortured a Donbass activist he kidnapped and stripped down to his underwear on camera:
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/470611414135365632
I wonder if Max Seddon of Buzzfeed is long for covering Ukraine for his employers, he seems to be getting too honest about the insanity on Kiev’s side.
American Kulak
@ Anonymous,
Q: Hmmmm. Wikipedia is not Kadyrov’s friend.
R: Could it be that The right’s latest weapon: ‘Zionist editing’ on Wikipedia has anything to do with that?
How unbeleivable grandiose the dirt ist in the Ukraine Elite can be read here…
Weapons, Prostitutes and Drugs –These are Things Petro Poroshenko is Associated With
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/05/24/weapons-prostitutes-drugs-things-poroshenko-associated-with.html
It is not avoidable to say, that here we have indeed another moraly questionable jewish connection resulting in the plundering of a whole country and its people. In all started in the mid 1980 of the past century with a criminal ancestor and never stopped till today. The greed, crimes and plundering are unspeakable and unbeleivable. There really is not much more to say and do than to get rid of such people as fast as possible in any way possible. The life and outcome and wellbeing of more than 40 Mio. People depend on the will of just a few criminals.
The Ukraine is today in the same status ans Russia was in the mid 1990 and just as Russia there will be absolutely nothing left if these very same pople are finshed with it. One example is that more than 50% of the fertile Land are under controll of foreign agrobussinesses instead of the Ukrainian people. They do not even own their Land anymore…
Klitchko in the meantime was awarded the city of Kiev…
History is being writen here in the case of the country named Ukraine and we all can watch how ultra crimianl it all is. It clearly shows that the most potent crimes are being planned and executed at the very top of societies… combined with unspeakbale greed.
Hi Saker –
I don’t think the West got much of what the Chechyans did in the two wars. It was more like a “glorification of the poor rebels.” I do know that the US helped pinpoint Dudaev in the first Chechnya War. Which goes to show how quickly the US can switch sides when Russia was on the ropes and the Oligarchs were feasting on her carcass. Things changed when Russia could start to defend herself again. I am glad to see things better in Chechnya and also glad to see Russia has some allies in the Caucasus.She needs them. I, too, have hope, that more people will look at what is happening now and realize that they need better information. As for “radical” Islam, it is the natural ally of the Orthodox and the enemy of those who would mislead people for their own benefit. A caution to all readers of Wikipedia: It is written by many different people and I can honestly say that we all have opinions, many of which may not be accurate. As a Muslim, we always say “And Allah knows and we do not.” That always seems to cover the action. Like you, Saker, I will keep hoping for some decent leadership in the Ukraine, because they certainly lack it right now.
This might be of interest: Putin was very open with CNBC: Anchor
@ American Kulak,
Thanks for providing that many links. Appreciated.
Great article. The example of Chechnia shows that everything is possible in politics.
Dearest Saker,
@Saker : Hope dies last and this is a hope I simply want to keep in my heart, no matter how naive it might seem to the “realists” out there.
Yes, it is the hope that tomorrow will be better than today. Thus, the concept of Second Coming of Jesus (as) and Imam Mahdi (as). Their or God’s Kingdom for a 1,000 years and hopefully everyone will live in peace.
We saw this glimmer of hope briefly in Saudi Arabic, before the Syrian Fiasco and hopefully we will see it again. All the Islamic Archaeological have been destroyed in Saudi Arabia. The house where the Prophet Mohammad (saws) lived with his first wife Bibi Khadija (as) for 27 years and where he had his daughter Bibi Fatima (as), has been destroyed and Toilets have been build on top of it. Toilets!
Yes, we saw glimmer of hope, we saw live on TV, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia praying at the Grave of Prophet Mohammad (saws) and everyone around him was stunned. His Guards, Ministers and all those Princes around him didn’t know what to do as they watched him in stunned silence.
Yes, there is always, Hope. Satan plans and God plans, and God is the best of the Planner.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
I’ve been reader of this blog since the beginning of the year, i think. While the Saker is far from being unbiased, i believe most of material appeared here could be considered veracious, sometimes with a tiny grain of salt, maybe. But frankly, this particular article kicked me off balance.
From my point of view there are several serious, khgm, “inaccuracies”, let’s put it that way.
1. “Image of Chechnia and Chechens is radically changing in Russia”. In reality, Chechens are being considered what they are – thugs from the mountains, using knives and guns without hesitation after slightest provocation, for example in a restaurant, against usually barehanded adversaries. What is worse, it’s well known that they will get away with it even with blood on their hands. Officials will be bribed or intimidated, so no one will be prosecuted. Even if the case gets to a court – well, persons involved will just go back to Caucasus, where local police will never try to catch them. These guys go through the downtown Moscow in dozens of cars, shooting live ammunition into the air and surrounding vehicles, and again, with impunity. So – there is no change in attitude towards Chechens: they are feared and hated. And since they are really a very small minority the only thing keeping them from being harassed and killed one by one is support from the police, judicial and special services. Sad but true. Google phrases below, if interested. Click images section or youtube if you don’t know Russian.
Кавказский автопробег.
Стреляющая свадьба.
2. Media calls Kadyrov hero? That’s because he was awarded with the Golden star (highest Russian decoration) and title of Hero of Russian Federation, move, that caused sheer outrage and disgust in the Russian military. He is also called academic, which is also true. When Kadyrov is called a hero in media, there is /sarc tag in 100% cases. The tag you are probably missing.
3. Kadyrov is really playing very important role. He (actually, his father) was chosen to become a rat wolf of a kind. A creature trained to eradicate its fellow rats, i.e. warlords, that failed to strike deal with the Kremlin first. Was that necessary to bring up such creature? The answer is likely “yes”. It was cost-effective solution. But that doesn’t change Kadyrov from what he is, nor it helps to improve attitude towards him. Nothing will help here, i think.
4. After elimination of most rivaling warlords Chechnya is living quite well, thanks to the money they got from the federal state budget. Money, that doesn’t go to other regions, that is. They build great mosques and skyscrapers (skyscrapers, for god’s sake, in a rural area!) at expense of regions of Russia proper. It’s well known, and causes a lot of tensions too.
5. Vostok battalion, u say? Ok, let’s get to the Chechen Vostok battalion. It was a stronghold of Yamadayev family. Which got themselves into a conflict with no other but Ramzan Kadyrov. Aftermath of the conflict:
a. Ruslan (Khalid) Yamadayev. Colonel, Hero of Russian Federation, member of Russian Stated Duma. Murdered in downtown Moscow.
b. Sulim Yamadayev. Lieutenant colonel, Hero of Russian Federation. Murdered in Dubai, OAE. Lots of info about this one available in English. Dubai police concluded that Kadyrov’s cousin was behind the murder.
c. Vostok battalion. Disbanded in 2008, soon after war with Gergia.
Dear Friend Macon Richardson,
@Macon Richardson : Wahhabism, like “born-again” Christianity, is anything but radical, being based on Sharia, an outgrowth of hadith, the various interpretive glosses on the Koran.
I would call it “fanaticism” rather than “radical”. 250+ years after the death of Prophet Mohammad (saws), the Sunni started believing from umpteen of so called imams, in one of the four imams. I repeat, one of four imams and not all the four imams.
The last of these four was Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, who I consider the best but least understood. There rose in 12th Century, a man called, “Ibn Taymiyyah”. He was follower of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
This Ibn Taymiyyah, who is today God-Like due to Petro-Dollars, was the most fanatic person ever lived in Islam. The Sunni basically put him in a prison and threw away the keys in the sea. Ibn Taymiyyah believed that God has physical body.
When, not very long ago the House of Saud was set up by our British Masters, at the same time our British Masters set up the Wahhabi religion based on Ibn Taymiyyah fanaticism. A young man named, “Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab” was chosen for this task to help the New Kingdom.
You can Google all the names, but keep in mind the influence of Petro-Dollars and MSM.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Hi Saker,
My parents are in Iraq along with some of my other family for the next 10 days. Karbala, Najaf, Baghdad, and maybe Samara. They may or may not get the opportunity to meet Sistani.
If you have any questions, I can ask them to ask the locals. About Maliki, Nasrallah, or “The Great Satan.”
They tell me the mosque in Kufa is very different now. Money is pouring in from Shias everywhere. I know there were posters outside mosques in Iran asking for people to donate. After Saddam fell the sanitation and burial chambers were in dire need of repair.
And even though the Iranians must have contributed the most, I’m sure the Kuwaitis and the Lebanese are not far behind. Every single improvement being made though, will have Iranian architects, masons and craftsmen involved.
There was an attack in Kazmain(Southern Baghdad) yesterday. My parents will visit the shrine there tomorrow. I was worried when I called to check, but at the back of my head I thought, what better place is there to die?
Warm regards
Mindfriedo
The question is if Poroshenko wants to emulate Putin?
I believe he does.
Recall that it was a very small but influential minority faction in the West that precipitated this crisis.
The elections in Europe delivered a major boost to the pro-Putin factions, and a hammer blow to the tiny faction that wants to cause trouble.
My money is on the Ukraine taking as much money as they can from the IMF and then double-crossing them and going independent.
@Mindfriedo,
I sincerely hope your family will have a save trip.
Dear Friend Macon Richardson,
@Macon Richardson : To clarify a bit, I consider the letters of Paul to be hadith, Paul’s interpretation of Christ’s message. The writers of the five or six most used versions of Islam’s hadith, like Paul with Jesus, did not know Mohammed and wrote after the fact.
To Muslims the Quran is a Scripture from God, which is separate from the actions and sayings of the Prophet Mohammad (saws), which is called the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws).
Thus to Muslims, Quran is equal to the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws) as the Sunnah explains both the Quran and religion.
The word Sunni, is derived from Sunnah. Before the advent of the internet, it was rumored that Shia are not Muslims as they don’t believe in Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws). The saying went as such, “if the Shia believed in the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws), they would be called Sunni”. Duh! :)
What is the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws) and what does it consists:
A good definition would be, “Sunnah:=The legal way or ways, orders, acts of worship and statements of the Prophet, that are ideals and models to be followed by Muslims.”
Thus, it consists of:
1. Sayings – hadiths.
2. Actions.
3. Judgments.
4. History.
5. What he approved.
6. What he disapproved.
There was very little Sunnah written during the times of the Prophet. What little was written, was burnt by Sunni claiming that Quran (Scripture) is sufficient for them.
For 200 years after the death of the Prophet the Sunnah was cooked, cooked, recooked, and then cooked again and then documented. The Sunni and Shia have different Sunnah. The Sunnis have 6 authenticated books of hadiths, and each book is voluminous. The Shia have their own.
To Muslims they don’t consider TaNaKh (OT) and NT being Scriptures from God. They consider these Scriptures being lost. Muslims consider:
1. Torah: Sunnah of Prophet Moses (as).
2. Psalms: Sunnah of Prophet David (as).
3. Gospels: Sunnah of Prophet Jesus (as).
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Imran Hosein refers to the Wahabi-Salafis as Protestant Islam.
Are there parallels between Protest Islam and Protestant Christianity?
Chechnya practices sufism just as syria does,which is traditional sunni islam.The name sunni has been hijacked the wahabi /salafi /tablighi sects and these violent sects are used as a tool by the west to tarnish true sunni islam.They are in fact the mercenaries of western imperialism.
@ Anonymous : Imran Hosein refers to the Wahabi-Salafis as Protestant Islam.
I don’t think that I have very much faith in Imran Hosein as a Religious Authority. But as a Peace Lover, I admire him.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Brian_J said…
When desire for a theory of order follows a Time of Troubles, the abstract, the Platonic, the symbolic, the spiritual, may gradually attain to a valid structural model.
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Neo-platonist garbage – a giant identification and equivocation of whatever concepts one likes, in order to delude oneself that one knows something worth knowing as a result; the gratuitous “spiritual” being the oh-so-fashionable New Age icing on top. The Absolute is Perfect, allelulias all round?!?
Why I am so critical? Because notwithstanding your conviction (belief? faith?), whatever it is you think “may” attain, in practice it may not. That’s why some say “Deo volente” and others “In Shā’a llāh”. In fact there is nothing of any reality here at all: “the abstract” “attaining” to another abstraction (“a valid structual model”). Say what’s that? Another abstraction… explicable by another abstraction. We could play this game recursively for Eternity. And get absolutely (sic) Nowhere.
Please develop a sense of social responsibility.
@Anonymous : Chechnya practices sufism just as syria does,which is traditional sunni islam.
If the Chechnyans have become Suffi, then it is the best news in the decade.
God bless them.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Dear Friend Macon Richardson,
BTW, the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (saws) with Shia is as much cooked as the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (saws) with Sunni.
Back to Ibn Taymiyyah.
Both Ibn Taymiyyah and Wahhabi believe in the Literal Interpretation of the Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad (saws).
They say, why would God lie in the Quran. If God says in the Quran, “His two hands are open”, then He literally has two hands. Where as, both Sunni and Shia believe this statement implies that God is Generous.
According to Ibn Taymiyyah. First thing God created above the Seven Heavens is His Throne and Stool. According to him, the Throne is sooo old that when God sits on it, it makes sound. And, then God rest His two feet on the stool.
Thus, God has body, two eyes, two hands, two legs, but nothing Like Unto Him.
Therefore, God is not Physically everywhere. However, God’s Essence (Knowledge) is everywhere. That God’s had allocated certain time for earth, every day. And that He descents to earth every day and ask the angels what is going on. When His time is up, He ascends and tells the angels, He will catch up the next day.
Once a month, God takes the total tour of the earth on a donkey.
Due to Petro-Dollars you will not find very much about the above on the internet.But you will find these in the books written by Ibn Taymiyyah. These books are accepted by Muslims Authorities, that they are authored by him.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Dearest Mindfriedo,
Salam,
@Mindfriedo : My parents are in Iraq along with some of my other family for the next 10 days. Karbala, Najaf, Baghdad, and maybe Samara.
Your parents and other family members are one of the luckiest people on earth. God will protect them, and InshaAllah they will be back safe and sound.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
The economic impact on one company oligarch. http://johnhelmer.net/?p=10834#more-10834
The power of silence.
He is interview of Ramsan Kadyrov with some details of rescue (in Russian)
http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/6189045.html
@anonymous 11:23
I am not sure of Imran Hosein’s reason. But I’ve heard this argument before.
It’s to do with a centralised clergy or church. Orthodox Sunni Islam has had their four schools of thought and the Al Azha university in Cairo to issue fatwas. The Shias have their “Marjas of Taqleed,” scholars to be emulated. The wahabbis/salafis do not have a centralised clergy. They have institutions in Saudi, Qatar and India but there is no central authority. They are more of puritans saying that the Quran is enough for us. Any Salafi or Wahabi can correct me if I’m wrong.
I heard something similar from Robert Baer. He states that any Wahhabi imam gives a fatwa and their followers take them for valid. He contrasted this with TWA flight 847 where Islamic Jihad, a non de guerre for the Hizballah, took hostages and executed a marine on board. The members of Islamic Jihad called up Fadllallah, an Ayatollah, to get a fatwa before they could execute the marine.
Regards
Mindfriedo
@Daniel Rich
Thank you
Mindfriedo
@Anon( American Kulak)
thank you for having enough courage and honesty to answer my questions head on. I accept your position even if it differs from mine in substance, at least you took the time to consider it, and that’s fair enough. Although,
following your logic of Russia’s proximity vs Ukraine to its conclusion, I understand now why the Ukrainian nationalists prefer American/IMF/EU tyranny to the tyranny of their Russian neighbors- a tyrant an ocean away is always preferable to a tyrant across the boarder, the former finds less excuses to interfere with your autonomy within your own boarders.
@I consider the letters of Paul to be hadith, Paul’s interpretation of Christ’s message. The writers of the five or six most used versions of Islam’s hadith, like Paul with Jesus, did not know Mohammed and wrote after the fact.
My friend Mahomed,
Again you try to force upon us a muslim interpretation of Christianity, of which you prove again that you know nothing else than the muslim version.
St. Paul (besides the fact that he was a contemporary of Jesus) did encounter the Christ personally:
“As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.
“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything”. (Acts 9:3–9)
“For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born” (1 Cor. 15:3–8)
Paul wrote his letters in a span of 30 years after the Resurrection, in permanent contact with all the principal witnesses. They have been authenticated at the time and copyied with utmost care for the accuracy of the content.
The hadith are a collection of hersays: “I heard someone say, ‘I heard a Companion say, ‘I heard the Prophet…” and so on”, and are indeed late, some even contradicting the Quran (as in the case of zina, see where the corruption is).
@Tor Quinn-Darke 11:50
Well done, you’ve understood my comment after reading one sentence. I’m not sure how neo-Platonism came into a discussion of good government and internationl relations, where Plato’s influence, however, is still felt after thousands of years.
The example I had offered, Tsar Alexis stylized appeal, was a snapshot of a process already well on its way of using human understanding to move forward from a Time of Troubles. Just fifty years earlier Russia had been in chaos, overrun by alien armies, regicide, widespread famine, massacres — far worse than 1991 or Ukraine today.
Far from being an abstraction, the structure was in place by 1656, providing a platform from which Alexis’ son Peter would soon undertake the previously unimagineable project of bringing Russia into Europe as a power — an achievement to rival Bismarck’s gathering of the German states.
Please, take a lead from Alexis Mikhailovich and grant more honour to detail — read, think, study, before flinging a cliche where it didn’t really belong.
Brian
Dearest Friend WizOz,
I did not write the following comments. The person who wrote the following comments is dear Macon Richardson on 26 May, 2014 03:28:
“I consider the letters of Paul to be hadith, Paul’s interpretation of Christ’s message. The writers of the five or six most used versions of Islam’s hadith, like Paul with Jesus, did not know Mohammed and wrote after the fact.”
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Dearest Friend WizOz,
@WizOz : and are indeed late, some even contradicting the Quran (as in the case of zina, see where the corruption is).
As I have mentioned earlier several times, the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammad (saws) was cooked, cooked, recooked, and then cooked again and then documented. The Sunni and Shia have different Sunnah, but about 80% of their Sunnah is same.
However, Muslims believe that Quran is equal to Sunnah. Thus, Sunnah compliments the Quran. There is no contradiction about Zina in Quran and Sunnah.
The Quran doesn’t mention “stoning”. The “stoning” is in Sunnah, which compliments the Quran. Therefore, we Muslims are not ashamed to claim that both Prophet Mohammad (saws) and Countries till today practice “stoning”. God’s Major Commandments and Punishment don’t change from Day 1, until the Judgement Day and have nothing to do with being politically correct.
Having said above, as I have written previously and shown umpteen times that in Islam it is impossible to prove Zina. Unless, it is a Kangaroo Court.
Zina can be proven when someone self confesses. Then only that, one party of the Zina is punished, and not the other party of the Zina. It takes two to do Zina. Why would someone self confess?
He/she prefers to pay his/her sins in this life rather than afterlife. One doesn’t pay for their sins twice.
To Muslims they don’t consider TaNaKh (OT) and NT being Scriptures from God. They consider these Scriptures being lost. Muslims consider:
1. Torah: Sunnah of Prophet Moses (as).
2. Psalms: Sunnah of Prophet David (as).
3. Gospels: Sunnah of Prophet Jesus (as).
And, the Muslims consider the above Sunnah of Moses, David and Jesus was cooked, cooked, recooked, and then cooked again and then documented in the above books, as was the Sunnah of Mohammad.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Dear Friend WizOz,
Definition of Zina: Penetration is taken place between man and a woman OR penetration is taken place between two men.
Proof of Zina: Four people must have witnessed with their eyes that penetration is taken place. So, Zina is impossible to prove unless:
1. The witnesses are Peeping Tom and happened to be at the right time and place.
2. The committing the Zina are Exhibitionist, thus penetration is being performed in public.
3. The witnesses are part of Orgy and thus witnessed the penetration. Basically, are telling on themselves.
And, witness who give false testimony is subject to 80 lashes.
Punishment of Zina:
1. If the man or woman are unmarried, then it is 100 lashes.
2. For married man, married woman or repeat offenders, than it is “stoning”.
3. For Homosexual where penetration has taken place, it is “stoning”.
Kangaroo Court: None of the above conditions matter.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
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