Posted by Amarynth
The Westminster Magistrate’s Court has issued an order to extradite journalist and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to the United States.
The order was sent to Home Secretary Priti Patel who has to sign off on extraditions. Assange’s defense has until May 18 to make submissions to Patel against extradition.
Meanwhile Assange will remain in custody. He can only appeal once Patel has made a decision.
https://richardmedhurst.substack.com/p/uk-court-issues-order-to-extradite?s=w
British Court Sends Assange Extradition To Home Office For Approval https://t.co/2ZT41LkLVq
— Kevin Gosztola (@kgosztola) April 20, 2022
There seems very little hope now for Mr Assange. However, he will go down in history as a conclusive proof that journalism was extinct, and truth of any kind highly endangered, in 21st century Britain.
In crushing him his enemies have furnished the most compelling evidence possible that he was right, and what he said was true.
Boycott, divest from and sanction “ Great “ Britain.
Fintan O’Toole: “If lies were flies, the swarm around him would be so thick that Boris Johnson would be invisible.”
Conclusive proof that UK ‘journalists’ deserve no protections at all. Coming with the extrajudicial persecution of Craig Murray, proof that liberty and human rights is dead in UK. Proof that CONservatives want us to eat crap, maggots and flies.
William Casey (CIA Director 1981-1987): “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
Fintan OToole is Irish Times.
Worse than the New York Slimes, the flies sure do swarm at the Cloaca, sess-pit, a British out-house.
It is not Conservatives.. (What a foolish notion), we are dominated by ‘progressives’.. Lefty zealots, who dominate all fields and institutions.. It is not conservatives waging war on the truth with perversions and subversions.. It is not conservatives besieging, the family unit. The institution of marriage. it is not conservatives with a rabid ‘ends justify the means’ bloody minded obsession with re molding everything everyone every place in their own image. The nature and definition of conservative is TO CONSERVE, uphold and maintain. Whether traditions or values.. You have it backwards… It is rabid lentals (left of mental) corroding everything like a bacteria… Justsayin
Tom Welsh,
I have always had massive respect for you, cos you always write sensibly and calmly. I wrote far too much, and for too long about what I think I know about Julian Assange and Craig Murray. When I post here (which is rarely) I get a response – submitted for moderation. Today I got no response at all. I will make one further short point, not included in what I wrote..from memory
Julian Assange appeared on his balcony at the Ecudarian Embassy on a hot day in May 2017 at around 3pm wearing a black motorcycle jacket.
The press – and all the media – ITV, RT, Sky, BBC, ITV had been waiting for him with all their gear, since 6:00 am in the morning.
Something had happened that morning (I can’t remember what) such that he had to make an appearence, and speak…which he did, about 10 hours after the film crew turned up.
He could have been almost literally anywhere in the world…the RAF has fast jets
To walk from his bedroom, after having a pee, and preparing a speech he could do in less than 5 minutes (he’s a lot quicker than Craig Murray)…but it took him nearly 10 hours, and it was hot.
Full leather jacket, full motorcyle gear, as if he had just rushed in via the back door, on a motorbike like a rock star – as cool as anything, and gave a great speech.
I mentioned this on Craig Murray’s blog.
He did not disagree with me.
Regardless of everything, neither of these people should have been jailed for telling the truth as best as they could.
I have no evidence that they were lying.
But all these people are media stars.
My other post is much longer, but doesn’t discredit either of them.
They have both got more balls than me.
I might disagree with them , but am convinced they are good men.
Tony
America does not like its war crimes exposed. 175 years in prison for leaking information about a state’s criminal deeds, and only a few years for a killer who destroyed a family, is not worthy of any justice of the name.
Absolutely unfair.
“America does not like its war crimes exposed.”
Perhaps you miss an aspect and hence you may not see an “intelligence aspect” ?
In context drone warfare was assigned a precision that was not possible, particularly in precise targetting, and hence de facto it was a variant of carpet bombing with “collateral damage”.
At that time local assets were used as targetters in situ – not Arizona – but in Afghanistan given its culture of vendetta there was difficulty recruiting local assets for such tasks or progressively any tasks, thereby rendering drone warfare a variant of carpet bombing – not as stated on the brochures.
Perhaps unwittingly Mr. Assange exposed that to the detriment of many who defined this as an “intelligence matter/breach” – reasonable as it appears that almost anything can be defined as an intelligence breach in “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” not to be disclosed.
At the very least that is likely a significant component of why Mr. Assange is likely to be “extra-dited” as some say.
1. The definition of so called ‘intelligence breach’ is not of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but that of the USA which is the country seeking his extradition.
2. Assange is NOT an American citizen. Thus how can he accused of breaching US ‘intelligence matter breach.?’ or what they sometimes call spying? He wasn’t in the USA.
3. There lots of journalists in history who have had EXCLUSIVES on various matters and have never been charged with such.
4. What was revealed by Assange was a CRIME. It did not, could not, endanger any US/British soldier or some ‘top secret military classified information.’ For example, if an American journalist get access to Russia’s own military operation footage where their planes fire into a peaceable crowd, would the journalist be sort for punishment?
Julian Assange is being punished as a personal vendetta against him for embarrassing the ‘strongest baddest military in the galaxy’ AND to DETER any other journalist from ever revealing/publishing anything incriminating the US state ‘without prior vetting’ by the usual scoundrel.
A sad day that British justice system has downgraded itself so much.
“The definition of so called ‘intelligence breach’ is not of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland but that of the USA which is the country seeking his extradition.”
You appartently hold to the illusions of sovereign states.
“The United States of America” is a network of coercive social relations which de facto includes, but is not limited to, “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” particularly in regards to matters of “intelligence” 5 eyes refers. Mr. Blair de facto increased the de jure.
“Julian Assange is being punished as a personal vendetta against him for embarrassing the ‘strongest baddest military in the galaxy’ AND to DETER any other journalist from ever revealing/publishing anything incriminating the US state ‘without prior vetting’ by the usual scoundrel.”
The conflation of an explanation with the explanation is very useful in matters of “perception management”.
The lessons that some understood were :
1. The morale and hence the access to/utility of US local assets in Afghanistan was significantly deteriorating.
2. That consequently the drone war in context of Afghanistan was a type of carpet bombing that afforded significant opportunities of adverse reaction – as proved to be the case – hence the running away from Afghanistan and the subsequent punishment of Afghanistan.
Which may have not have been perceived by Mr. Assange, as he chose the Ecuadorian Embassy as a place of “safety” thereby imprisoning himself whilst possibly aiding the construction of a “legend”.
Whilst those immersed in illusions perceive
“A sad day that British justice system has downgraded itself so much.”
He didn’t expose intelligence information. He exposed a helicopter crew shooting down, in cold blood, a bunch of civilians on the city street below.
” He exposed a helicopter crew shooting down, in cold blood, a bunch of civilians on the city street below.”
That is the interpretation of some.
Some others asked the question why ? whilst some referred to different incidents – and some pondered practices of “targetting” and possible opportunities derived therefrom.
“Certainty” is impossible since omniscience is not an option, but belief in “certainty” is a useful tool in “perception management”.
Look at the Wikileaks video – hear the gungho-shooters, sure in their immunity.
And puke at what happened to USMC.
Paper bag at the door on the way out….
MrBumble on April 20, 2022 · at 4:03 pm EST/EDT
Quote…
” He exposed a helicopter crew shooting down, in cold blood, a bunch of civilians on the city street below.”
That is the interpretation of some.
… Unquote.
Strangely, it is also a statement of indisputable fact, as demonstrated by the real-time events recorded and narrated by the murderers themselves during the commission of their uprovoked butchery against a bunch of innocent civilians.
ad hominem removed … mod
“Strangely, it is also a statement of indisputable fact”
re : MrBumble on April 20, 2022 · at 4:03 pm EST/EDT
“whilst some referred to different incidents…”
Thank you for your illustration of conflating an answer with the answer, perhaps through lack of facility in some modes of perception.
That is always a useful tool in “perception managent” and in your case of such utility that your follow on was ad hominem removed … mod – ad hominem attacks also being a useful tool in “perception management”, as are resort to anger and other forms of emotionalism.
. . .and laughing about it.
UK Gov’t and US Gov’t is ONE government. They don’t about their subjects or citizens. When there is war, chaos, or mini wars, including the Covid war, UK and US are there. Remember the Five Eyes. Remember Cecile Rhodes and his round table. And the centre of is London monarchy. Julian Assange is a hero in journalism/democracy, and will be martyred.
Theresa May as Home Secretary blocked extradition of Gary McKinnon in 2012. Unfortunately Johnson regime has sycophantic Patel who will brown-nose anyone to get ahead so hope dies.
It will cost Johnson dearly if he is so servile to USA. It was Blair who brought in this one-sided Extradition Treaty with USA modelled on European Arrest Warrant which makes ANYONE in UK liable to extradition to USA without US needing to make a prima facie case – even for things not illegal in UK.
It was the 1917 Espionage Act used more by Obama than any other President which really cannot be applied to NON-US persons.
It is a global outrage that US seeks to punish journalism anywhere on earth it does not like…….but it was a German Daniel Domscheit-Berg that betrayed Assange
Was this D.D.Berg a German? Or (((something else)))?
Blair may well have been PM when this sycophantic, one sided treaty was pushed through Parliament. But lets not lose site of the fact that the Home Secretary who steered this piece of legislation was David Blunkett.
Now ensconced in a comfortable grace and favour house – possibly somewhere in the Chatsworth area of North Derbyshire – for services rendered. Who would have thought the guy who flew the Red Flag over Sheffield Town Hall when he was Council leader would turn out to be such a sniveling turncoat.
“Who would have thought the guy who flew the Red Flag over Sheffield Town Hall when he was Council leader would turn out to be such a sniveling turncoat.”
To be a turncoat you need to have a coat to turn, whilst snivelling can be quite useful through being perceived by “elites” as a “working class” behaviour with connotations of just-like-usness – Mr. Johnson, a former pupil of Eton, being an ocassional practitioner of this technique.
Mr. Blunkett did wear the coat of Sheffield Council and was a performer versed in changing coats..
Mr. Blair – a former pupil of Fettes in Edinburgh, and pursuer of barristerdom in Inns of Court, was and has likely always been a performer dressing up in the coats of others for his own advantage, including with like minded others moderating “The Labour Party” through removal of clause 4 and forays with others perceiving election as prime including Mr. Blunkett, whilst maintaining the illusions of “The Labour Party” that “reform” in/of coercive social relations is only an option to minimally re-form the pre-existing components into slightly different arrays.
Like in the case Mr. Zelensky, initially many fell for the performance – some from desperation and some from hope as is generally the case – but not all, some of whom understood/understand that “representative democracy” ‘s main utility is to transfer the agency of people to their “betters” with acceptable levels of blowback, and hence transcendence will likely be a function of “lived experience” which informed/informs the practices of others outwith “The United States of America” and one of its component parts, “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”, including during the 1990’s.
Wait a minute, I thought it was Chelsea Manning who unintentionally did this to Assange by discussing the matter in the first place with Berg…
Mockingbird flies.
Phoenix must rise!
I foresee one of three outcomes for him: 1. He’ll be killed for attempting to escape; 2. He’ll commit suicide the first month after arriving; 3. He’ll simply disappear (like the Scripals) and never be heard from again.
You don’t think he’ll be brought to trial then?
No.
Agree re no trial.
Quiet, and long-term, hospitalization for Mr. Assange’s mental derangements will be required.
Perhaps he’ll be released when he turns 80 or so.
Assange.
Lira.
Remember the names.
Not enough. Find culprits, enablers. Interrogate, make example. So the future psychopaths remember too.
Unfortunately it comes at the worst time for Julian: not only are they using the Ukraine situation as a distraction to hide behind, but propaganda and misinformation – and misuse of the media – are an all time high in the history of mankind. In that respect the perversion of information in the hearings of Julan’s case, and the perversion of information in current media are but a continuum, Just 2 years ago such overwhelmingly illegal judgements would have been impossible to push through. Today anything goes.
Julian’s only hope is people on the streets – call out Boris Johnson for crimes of humanity against Julian, call on Boris Johnson to offer himself as war criminal for trial by the Russians in place of those two British nazi mercenaries (the two nazi mercenaries should stand trial, but Johnson is even more qualified to stand trial for war crimes). Make sure the maximum pressure is on Johnson not to take this evil action of extraditing Julian [even though Patel makes the decision, Johnson as Prime Minister must be held accountable for it].
“as a distraction to hide behind”
The process and its “velocity” is in part a parade to enhance and sustain the cloak of the majesty of law, with a twist of the rule of “informed” woman, and hence hiding is not one of their purposes whilst distraction is: hiding behind often encouraging some spectators to shout – “He’s behind you” – as part of the performance.
“Julian’s only hope is people on the streets”
Woke&Cancel culture oriented British young generation? Same as in Ukie bandwagon. Your hope is futile. Sad to say but facts are what facts are.
Julian Assange will never make it to the United States. There won’t be any trial in the US and no opportunity for his supporters to mass in front of a court house. Instead he’ll be taken to Guantanamo and his trial will be held there.
The outrage grinders stir the pot
with lies and obfuscation
the purpose of this psyop
is to manipulate the nation
The manufacture of consent
for plunders foreign and domestic
the media serve the one percent
they keep in line or get arrested
They enrage so you’ll engage
pick a side, it’s good for hating
god forbid you disengage
this dissent is good for ratings
The fourth estate is dead and gone
it rots in Belmarsh with Assange
the Hegemon has grown too strong
they sing the Uniparty’s song-
Given the meter/metre.
Is the follow-on
“sit on your arse for fifty years
and hang your hat on a pension”?
If so like waiting for Godot, no pension will likely arrive.
He has until May 18th to appeal and can only appeal once she “makes her decision”? I’m sure the decision will be signed May 17th at 11:59 PM.
With this, human rights and rule of law are officially dead in the West. As the US says, ‘rule of law’ is now ‘Rules-based Order©’. It is clear there is no due process here. RIP Julian, you were too good for Zone A.
I bet Snowden is now thanking his lucky stars that he got stranded in Russia.
Keeping gold in Western vaults
-> Confiscated
Holding foreign currency reserves in Western bank -> Frozen
Seeking asylum in Western country -> Draged to kangaroo court.
Connect the dots.
Foreign currency confiscated, not frozen.
in a perfect world he could be exchanged for any number of dumbass merc LARPers caught in ukraine and spend his remaining years recuperating in sochi. oh well.
instead he’s been tortured and will be disappeared…probably to a cell in the same supermax aaifa siddiqui got sent to after military and deep state vermin were done raping her.
i know a sudden collapse would be catastrophic in a lot of ways but WOW the west really needs to go down.
The intensity with which elements of the media and establishment have defended Assange suggests he has some damaging information involving powerful people in American politics that they fear being disclosed in a court of law.
In one of the other threads someone suggested Putin demand Assange as part of any mercenary exchange. I loved it. Great idea.
Que Putin salve Assange.
“Que Putin salve Assange.”
You appear to believe in the biblical parable of the shepherd who left 99 sheep to find and recover 1 sheep.
That was an illusion held by the British SAS popped during the Iraq War.
However as the saying goes “Everyone is allowed their “own” opinion as long as they don’t try to act on it.”
That would be a win for the UKUS as they are claiming he is an asset. Russians may be compasionate, but not stupid.
I wish it were possible. But it won’t happen. Assange just an spec in a huge geopolitical struggle/domination and Russians would absolutely have no reason to interfere. As it is, Russia has had some of its citizens arrested and locked in the USA purely on witchhunt.
How did a proud nation, whose flag the sun never set on, become such a compliant, docile tool of Uncle $hmuel? Brits should be ashamed of themselves for allowing it.
As a Brit I do feel ashamed, sick to the pit of my stomach.
The British State has long since removed its velvet glove and unveiled the iron fist; up close and personal for me during the miners strike of 1983/84. Any claims about “democracy”, “freedom” or “the mother of parliaments” ring hollow in my ears.
Sadly though, most of my compatriots are the archetype for Orwells proles; feed them Victory gin, bingo/lottery and 2 minutes of hate everyday and they are content.
«The British State has long since removed its velvet glove and unveiled the iron fist; up close and personal for me during the miners strike of 1983/84. Any claims about “democracy”, “freedom” or “the mother of parliaments” ring hollow in my ears. Sadly though, most of my compatriots are the archetype for Orwells proles;»
Orwell wrote 90 years ago in “Review of The Civilization of France by Ernst Robert Curtius”:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jJj0NgA08SUC&pg=PA244
“In England, a century of strong government has developed what O. Henry called the stern and rugged fear of the police to a point where any public protest seems an indecency.
But in France everyone can remember a certain amount of civil disturbance, and even the workmen in the bistros talk of la revolution – meaning the next revolution, not the last one.
The highly socialised modern mind, which makes a kind of composite god out of the rich, the government, the police and the larger newspapers, has not been developed – at least not yet.”
Assange and Murray (and others) dared to defy that “composite god” and have been made an example of what happens to “deviants”.
That said, the miner’s strike of 1983 was led by “one last heave” syndicalist nutters like Arthur Scargill who seemed to want to replace the UK elites with themselves and the UK elites took their gloves off, and Scargill has poorly planned the challenge.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/anthony-barnett/thatcher-and-words-no-one-mentions-north-sea-oil«
«On the left and outside official Labour, there were four broad responses to Thatcher, personified by Tony Benn, Stuart Hall, Eric Hobsbawm and Ken Livingstone’s. Benn was for traditional left populism with a democratic language entirely new to 20th century British politics, but this was captured by the far-left and in particular by the miners’ leader Arthur Scargill, an anti-democratic syndicalist who orchestrated its destruction.»
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GPEyREvjvCsC&pg=PT366
«Many found Scargill inspiring; many others found him frankly scary. He had been a Communist and retained strong Marxist views and a penchant for denouncing anyone who disagreed with him as a traitor. Some found a megalomaniac atmosphere at his Barnsley headquarters, already known as Arthur’s Castle. Kim Howells, then a Communist and later a New Labour minister, visited him there and was taken aback to find him sitting at ‘this Mussolini desk with a great space in front of it’ and behind him a huge painting of himself on the back of a lorry, posed like Lenin, urging picketing workers in London to overthrow the ruling class. Howells thought anyone who could put up a painting like that was nuts and returned to express his fears to the Welsh miners. ‘And of course the South Wales executive almost to a man agreed with me. But then they said, “He’s the only one we’ve got, see, boy. The Left has decided.”’»
Thank you for your reply Blissex.
And thank you also for highlighting the petit-bourgeios response from what was seen as the “progressive Left” at the time.
All the intellectual Left (including the luminaries you reference) struggled to conceptualise the genuine stirring of working-class consciousness that occurred during the strike; Scargill didn’t truly understand the power he had unleashed, Howells and Livingstone were chasing their own place at the trough and as for Hobsbawm… talk about a wannabe Chomsky!
My memory includes a broken leg and arm caused by oppressive police actions at Orgreave coking works.
But all this is probably off-topic for this thread, just to add that Julian has been betrayed by the same forces that betrayed the miners, the so-called open-minded Liberal Left intelligensia, the same clowns that, these days, proclaim Russia’s elected leader to be a ‘thug and a bully’ and totally disregard the suffering inflicted by Nazi-aligned forces on the people in the Donbass.
Just my humble opinion.
I feel so sorry for Julian and his family.
In Ukraine some try to negotiate prisoner swaps for oligarchs and mercenaries.
To save Julian’s life I appeal to the RF that they propose to the West to exchange Julian for one or hundreds of their beloved mercenaries trapped in Mariupol.
If we could, if we could! The Azovstal plant can hide many interesting people from different NATO countries. They could be exchanged, but…
I hope for a miracle for Assange. Snowden may not like Russia, but at least he is alive and safe!
Zone A justice in action. He told the truth. In the zone A, it is a crime now. “Are we the bad guys?” The joke is on them.
Gonzalo Lira and Julian Assange the same day. Sad day.
The values of the civilized West in action… DISGRACEFUL
Anytime a normie parrots some regimist media lie – just say ‘Julian Assange’
You’ll be able to hear the gears crash inside his head 😂
Western democracy on the move… Great!
BTW. It looks like Finland is now blocking thesaker.is website. Works with Tor-browser after several try.
I think he has already found resignation, knowing that his experience demonstrates a lot, even his life’s work.
and he actually has a lot of power still; I don’t know if more than before but, as the times have changed, it could actually be more.
This is an opportunity to accuse UK of “human rights” abuse, freedom of speech suppression, war crimes cover-up and so on, and yet, they remain silent. WTF?
The message from the Empire of Lies and Plunder to any independent journalist worldwide is clear:
“If any of you dare conclusively expose our lies and crimes, they better fly to Russia asap, or our injustice system (and our vassals’, such as UK, Sweden, Australia, etc) will spare no effort nor expense (tax revenues, inflationary money creation and deficit spending afford us limitless resources) to grind both you and your legacy into dust.
That’s because we define the narrative, we create reality, we even rewrite history, and you can at most watch, and dimly wonder, and bleat on, like the sheeple you are.
Speaking of which, turn your skills to fabricate, embellish and disseminate our untruths on Russian war atrocities, if you want our 30 pieces of silver. Now, that’s good journalism…”
Such is the Orwellian hubris we must confront and oppose, by turning ourselves into unassuming, disciplined warriors intent on starving and disrupting the beast.
Starve and disrupt the beast.
With every choice. With every purchase. With every investment.
Each of us. Every one.
“If any of you dare conclusively expose our lies and crimes..”
One of the purposes of “the surveillance state” is to encourage that all are under constant view an interpretation – a “perception management routine”, known to some as the electrified cattle fence routine.
This is aided if the hoi poloi deem collection to constitute “intelligence”.
A boycott is useful but perhaps soon boycott will be by necessity ?
So a man who has not committed any crime on U.S soil is been extradited by a country that doesn’t exist, and his extradition is signed-off by a person who was never wanted by the native born?
Welcome to what is called the West?
Its like Assange has fallen down a rabbit hole to arrive at a very dark place. No fairytale here.
Like I always said the most dangerous country on the planet is the U.S, if-anyone-country will launch a nuclear attack it will be the U.S…they are already preparing the world for an attack in Ukraine with false stories.
If the American people do not do something about the psychopaths that run that country they will kill us all!
Perhaps a team of Russian Spetsnaz can capture him en-route to the airfield and whisk him off to Russia for tea with Vlad the Great?
Julian truly great light as all human greats (eg JFK) with the gene of altruism
I first became aware of Julian Assange, before he became famous, and probably before Craig Murray had ever heard of him. I have never knowingly met either of these people, though have come close to meeting Craig Murray on several occasions.
I followed the events of Julian Assange very closely, when he was in Sweden, and was totally convinced that he was not guilty of any rape, from the actual almost live twitter messages from the two girls involved, and also what was published in Aftonbladet the Swedish equivalent of The Sun.
In fact, when he was back in the UK, I even offered our home, as a place of Sanctuary, cos at the time, we had a big house, mostly full of kids, were completely anoynmous, so far as I knew, and as a computer geek, I thouht he would get on well with my 13 year old son.
Whilst my offer was probably never even read, it was completely honest (maybe in my innocence)
He then ends up in a big home of some very rich person, and does interviews there, so it was just as well, he didn’t end up in my back garden, as I didn’t particularly fancy camera crews walking through my house, asking – is Julian Assange here???
Craig Murray, who I retain massive respect for, is quite obviously still a part of The British Establishment.
It is entirely possible and likely that Julian Assange has previously worked for Intelligence Services, and maybe still does.
However, I am 100% convinced that regardless of what either or both of them may have done or not done, neither of them should have been jailed, and they have been.
There is only so much shit The British Establishment can make up.
The Americans make it up as they go along.
I have no evidence that Julian Assange and Craig Murray, are not good men of integrity, and have lied about anything (they probably have, but I have no evidence of it)
However, I would be more convinced of their integrity, if they told the truth about 9/11, which they never have.
I have no connections whatsover to any of these people, governments, politics or anything but I told the truth about 9/11 to my colleagues at work, my friends and my family, when 17 months after the event, before the Iraq War started (which I marched against with over 1 million people in Central London) February 2003
I merely said the Official US Government Story re 9/11 does not comply with the basic laws of physics,which I had studied at a British University.
This did not go down well. Nearly everyone thought I was mad. I was ostracised, by my friends, and effectively demoted from a senior Job at British company, such that I realised, I had to leave, and did the next year.
Despite the consequences, if you can’t openly say, what you believe to be the truth, accepting you may be wrong, don’t bother.
If you can’t fight for truth, justice the law, and basic trust in everything, then all of society falls apart and we all end up in hell on earth.
I hope Gonzalo Lira is O.K., but millions of people, are praying for this guy, whilst almost no one could give a shit, about all the people who have been bombed to hell, since NATO started in Serbia in 1999, and have never stopped.
As I resigned in 2004, and had nothing much else to do, I understand most of the story.
The UK Government does not come out of it well. They seem to be nearly as evil as the American neocons, but have not yet said Fuck the USA.
The war in The Ukraine is really an American attack on Europe, including the UK
Why haven’t we got anyone with the courage to stand up for the people they are paid to represent
Look at the lot of them..Not a spine amongst them – Disgraceful bunch of creeps.
Tony
Trump calls the U.S. government corrupt (it is corrupt and that’s why he wanted to lead the corruption) and becomes president. Assange proves it is corrupt and is imprisoned. Imprison Trump too please, will ya?
I’m under the impression that what he’s charged for – the “Collateral Damage” video, is it not? – is NOT the real reason they’ve done all this to him. Wasn’t it published many years before he was framed in Sweden, then jailed in England? It was already old news by then.
I’m under the impression it’s actually about the exposure of “her emails,” which detail & prove depredation and vice so horrendous, and so ubiquitous across the political spectrum, that it’s staggering. They can’t try him for that though; it would give the horrific perversion too much more publicity than it already has gotten. They need to keep that unknown by the masses who are quick to ridicule “conspiracy theory” because it’s about something they themselves have never heard of – like massive underground structures and tunnels. Because you know, “they’re expensive.” Never mind that we can give Ukraine $3 billion worth of weapons in one month – you’d have to be CRAZY to think underground cities exist!
They managed to expose Epstein’s Island (whisking away a corpse who barely looks similar to Epstein) and to keep people thinking it was “just” pedophilia with near-adults; not mass-rape and execution of girls and boys by politicians, celebrities, etc who were specifically set up by Mossad in order to make blackmail videos and thus control basically our whole power structure. When people ask why Congress continues to give Israel so much “aid,” that would be why.
Anna,
You maybe right, but I could never read any of that crazy US dem pizza shit. I am very lucky having a lovely wife, who after living together for 5 years, we just kind of said to each other, lets get married and have kids, which we did. After our daughter was born, it made sense, for her to give up her job, and become a full time childminder, for our boy and girl, and also many other children once she (and me) got checked out and officially registered as people (and our home) as a safe place for young children, mostly before they started school.
In fact my wife did much the same as my Mum, who was also a Childminder.
the people I felt sorry for were the kids’ parents, when they came to collect them after all the trauma and stress of commuting into London to earn money to pay their mortgage, and my wife for looking after their kids.
Most of the time, the children, had been perfectly well behaved all day. My wife has a special gift with children.
They would regularly scream and shout, and pull massive tantrums, when their parents turned up to take them home. They wanted to stay here with my wife and kids.
I was really lucky. Still am. We have got our Grandchildren round most of the time now.
Still got a happy home.
I can’t read stuff about evil people being horrible to Children.
Children are the most wonderful gift from heaven.
How can you outsource them? They are not commodities
My wife is not their Mum
You are.
Stay at home and look after them.
Tony
Anna, you are right that it has to do with “her” emails, but it’s more than that. Of particular interest to this forum, the whole “Trump-Russia collusion” narrative is predicated on the assertion that Russia hacked the DNC emails and gave them to Assange. Assange has stated that he can prove that the emails did not come from Russia. US intelligence can’t allow him to tell the truth about that.
For more info: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2020/02/19/media-jump-on-assange-court-statement-a-pardon-for-truthtelling/
One thing the US government has not thought about is that this will stop the use of “leaks”. The government officials have communicated by alias as “a senior State Department official”. From now on if a govt official passed on classified info, the reporter can be arrested. I imagine that from now on, all interviews will be on record and taped by the reporter. This is going to freeze up a lot of reporting.
Lord willing every day more and more good people are motivated to oppose zionist filth America. I’m a citizen a d I hope and pray to see the day it’s clear to the world the game is over. God forgive us for allowing so much death and destruction to be done in not only our na e but in the Name of Christianity. We are guilty and just like in Macbeth no amount of hand washing will cleanse us. And may the world, the peoples of the world, forgive us.
This places the UK and USA among the top of the most vile nations in history.
Patel is more English than the Queen of England and to prove it she will sin Assange. god bless Patel.
I am ashamed to be a Brit good ol British injustice if they were any further up the sepoes butt they would not be visible they UK and US kill on BS claim it’s ok for them to invade a kill but should anyone report them they are the crim Truth is treason in the empire of lies
«Truth is treason in the empire of lies»
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/01/untruth-and-consequences/305561/
«at a conference in Tehran in which the Allies discussed opening new fronts against Nazi Germany, Churchill stressed the need to keep the Allies’ plans secret. To Joseph Stalin, he said, “In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.”»
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jJj0NgA08SUC&pg=PA244
«In England, a century of strong government has developed what O. Henry called the stern and rugged fear of the police to a point where any public protest seems an indecency.
But in France everyone can remember a certain amount of civil disturbance, and even the workmen in the bistros talk of la revolution – meaning the next revolution, not the last one.
The highly socialised modern mind, which makes a kind of composite god out of the rich, the government, the police and the larger newspapers, has not been developed – at least not yet.»
George Orwell, 1943:
«Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. […] I saw newspapers in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact, history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to have happened according to various ‘party lines’.»
Harold MacMillan, 1963:
«It is wonderful not to read the newspapers — except a rapid glance through The Times. It makes such a difference. One feels better, mentally and morally, not to be absorbing unconsciously, all that steady stream of falsehood, innuendo, poison which makes up the Press today, apart from purely informative sections.»
Anyone seeking to understand English Law would be well advised to type the following words into their favorite search engine:
Evan Whitton Our Corrupt Legal System A history of English Law
That should get you to somewhere where you can download a PDF of this book, which is the work of another of Australia’s vanishingly few real journalists. It is an easy read and it details the history of English Law in all its grubby detail. What has been done to Assange is simly business as usual.
As an Australian citizen I am absolutely disgusted at the spineless, craven lack of defense of the right of an Australian journalist to tell the truth, regardless of who is embarrased by that truth. Those whose behaviour disgust me thus are our entire media industry, our political class with pitifully few exceptions and our intellectual class. A more pathetic bunch of whores I am yet to see.
“Evan Whitton Our Corrupt Legal System A history of English Law”
The designation of “Corrupt” tends to catalyse connotations that the author has a notion of the purpose and concommitant practice of law that the coercive social relations through which “law” is practiced does not hold, since for them qualitatively it remains fit for purpose.
In present coercive social relations, the designation of “Corrupt” tends also to catalyse connotations of an unfortunate aberration that can be rectified through reform, ergo: linear modulation, not lateral transcendence.
The coercive social relations through which law is practiced use the notion of “the rule of law”, which in present coercive social relations tends to catalyse notions of “independence from human tampering and equity in practice”, thereby obfuscating the purpose of “the rule of law” which is to facilitate “the rule of man by other men/women” by the obfuscation “the rule of law”.
As a component part of the transcendence of coercive social relations through which law is currently practiced, both the notion of “the rule of law” and “the rule of man by other men/women” require to be transcended by “the cooperation of man/woman for man/women”.
On present discussion the present hypotheses/understanding is that the lateral processes through which this can be facilitated are incorporated in networks of lateral processes to facilitate the transcendence of coercive social relations by voluntary cooperative social relations for mutual benefit, and as is the case with many trajectories of lateral processes, the modes of transcendence and their interactive trajectories are/will beindistinctly perceived and cooperatively tested in practice to aid perception and subsequent cooperative implementations – the ongoing implementation practices of The Russian Constitution which are attempts to transcend the previous constitution “donated” by “The United States of America” being in early limited illustration of such lateral networks of processes.
In such discussions/hypotheses formulations Mr Whitton’s observations would likely have utility as one catalyst among many catalysts interacting.
Freedom of Press is dead in the west, and truth has joined it in the coffin.
It will be sorely missed.
“It will be sorely missed.”
Perhaps by some whilst some will perceive self-inflicted opportunities for others.
«Look at the Wikileaks video – hear the gungho-shooters, sure in their immunity. And puke at what happened to USMC.»
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/chilcot-inquiry-black-ops-in-iraq-caused-split-between-us-and-uk-7130996.html
“Some senior British officers were unhappy at what was going on and the involvement of the UK’s SAS and the SBS. “Why are we helping to run Latin American-style death squads?” One British commander, himself ex-SAS, demanded to know. The SAS were, on at least two occasions, barred from carrying out such missions in the British-run south of the country. Questions were asked about how information was being obtained from suspects in Balad.”