Dear friends,
Here is the latest installment of my quarterly conversations with Catherine Austin Fitts.
This one was recorded on
You can listen to the interview on the original Solari Report page:
The Emerging Multipolar World – Silk Road Tug of War with the Saker
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An excellent audio interview with the Saker. I fully agree with his conclusion that the US has no overall foreign policy plan, which is not surprising. The country is being ruled by the elite, by private banks and corporations, all of whom have their own individual interests, reducing the State Department to a bunch of clerks who do as told. And the result ? The US has been reduced to an entity possessing the mentality of feudal Europe, where robber barons pursued their own selfish interests at the expense of the countries they ruled. Kings back then had a tough time controlling their aristocrats.
I have been following US foreign policy for years, and the impression is that currently Washington DC has no real foreign policy plan, been reduced to a wet chicken running left, right an center, trying to patch up and maintain it’s falling empire. As the old army rule goes, he who tries to control everything ends up controlling nothing. Worse, US foreign policy, such as it is, is beginning to alienate Washington’s allies in Europe, who are coming to the conclusion that Washington’s imperial policies will drag them into unnecessary conflicts from which they have nothing to gain, but plenty to lose.
The biggest shock was when Trump threatened Europe with sanctions if it dared participate in the Nord Stream – 2 gas pipeline. This piece of imperial arrogance brought European politicians in an impossible situation vis a vis their own people, who were watching how these same politicians would react, ie. if they would succumb and become imperial subjects. Worse for Washington, sanctions against Russia and Iran have created much bad blood, with the elites in Europe losing billions from lost trade. Analysts in the past few years have stated that it is only a matter of time when a rift occurs between European and US elites. I think it is going that way.
I must, however, disagree with one statement The Saker made, on Britain being reduced to Washington’s puppy, following it’s foreign policy. I fear it’s the other way round. The US is a Rothschild’s creation, when in 1776 they took over from the Crown the control of the American colonies, placing them under their own jurisdiction in the form of a “sovereign” US. Washington DC is under the control of free masons, who have their own HQ in the city, while the commander in chief of all free masons is Prince Philip, whose residence is in London. The US has been following the Rothschild’s agenda, being at war for most of it’s existence. It’s nothing more than a proxy fighter for the Rothschild’s, for whom the country as such is no real importance, being created to be used and then discarded.
In 1998 Igor Panarin, Dean of the Russian Diplomatic Academy, produced his famous map of the dissolution of the US into six parts. While I personally don’t think the map is 100 % accurate, it is indeed almost accurate, as I too think the US will break up. This dissolution of the US would only be beneficial to the Rothschild’s. The northern and central US states would end up in Canada, whose President is the Queen of England. Canada would take over from the US. According to one analyst, the Montana – Colorado region has more (untouched) oil than Saudi Arabia ever had. The oil is obviously being kept in reserve for Canada. As for the southern US states, they would be used for a reincarnated Confederacy, easily influenced by the Rothschild’s, bearing in mind that much of the population is of English origin.
Finally, The Saker is indeed correct that the greatest danger is the attitude of the US military and their potential decision to use nukes to prevent the dissolution of both the US empire and the US. We shall see what their decision will be when the dollar collapses, this event being inspired by the fact that countries are beginning to discard the dollar in international trade, opting for other currencies. On top of that, both Russia and China have been accumulating gold for years, preparing to introduce gold backed currencies. The future is going to be both interesting and, maybe, very dangerous indeed.
Thank you for linking the transcript. I started listening to the podcast and the audio seemed badly garbled.
Only the first 20-30 seconds, the rest is great.
That was a good interview discussion.
I think “Greenland” was the distraction the Saker was looking for at one point to blow off some news trend.
I’m not in the US so the only advantage I have is distance.
Catherine Austin Fitts made some good points about public sector/civil service giving up.
After 40 years, my situation exactly. Slugs? No, leering tape worms!
I still believe the Jewel wasp (parasitoid) is the metaphor.
[and no, I am not suggesting Americans are cockroaches — or the “intentional crime cartel”running its cult out of occupied Palestine are wasps] — the relationship and poison to the neck/head strategy is the meme.]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_cockroach_wasp
The rot started in the mid-70’s (Nixon then Reagan/Thatcher), really accelerated in 80’s and culminating in 90’s with the bipartisan Clinton ‘reform’ of banking (removal of Glass-Steagall in 1999). It then had a slim chance with Gore (only because he had more environmental cred) but the tricks were pulled (homosexuality if I remember correctly) and boy-Bush slithered in with his goat story and shock and awe starting with 9/11 (2.0).
Then Obama, who completely fitted Malcolm-X’s “House negro” definition bailed out the zombie banks (between his Tuesday Drone killing sport) and American capitalism fell.
Where I do not agree with Catherine Austin Fitts is her naive hopeful optimism. The cycles turn. The USA grabbed the agenda mid-20th century by cunning manipulation of WW2 (and late entry) but then the cracks started with civil rights, gender rights, criminal rights, gay rights, … I’m not value judging this change — much of it an improvement, BUT it did knock the stuffing out of the system. Everything is now so ‘equal’ that the battery is flat; the tire is flat; the culture is flat. The purpose is gone. And common purpose is the only thing that could entail all the chaos of metaphors that the US represented. War is all that is left and with the transformation of Russia and China even that is largely flat. Ok, a little stage show called “ISIS” was introduced and now that has largely gone flat. So it is Iran (& was NK, but now flat) with a major risk that peace will break out. Not good for the military Industrial (Congressional) complex and the 30+ odd counties etc. The only real economy left in town.
Sorry, but the culture (of the Clinton generation) is mendacity++. Bred on Ayn Rand BS (and her little groupie Alan Greenspan did his job) — and faux social Darwinism with the exceptionalism syndrome that has now peaked and run its course. It is now neo-feudalism with a panopticon State. Things may improve eventually, but only after the passing of this generation. And by then everything global will have changed. Most of the research will be in Chinese. Spanish will rival English for majority language in many places. But the main issue will be that no one will want the $usd nor the American ‘vision’ (nor the BS that goes with the Saudi gang’s oil cartel that closes the loop on the fiat usd$ scam). The future issue will be increasing lack of relevance.
Always a pleasure to listen to The Saker and Catherine. One has to credit Catherine with being tenaciously hopeful even in these times.
I listened with interest, as I always do, to your recent interview with Catherine Austin Fitz. I love you both. So you still think the Neocons are stupid zealots? Here is what Eric Zuesse has to say about one of the foremost among their number, Jeff Bezos:
“Bezos might be the most ferociously gifted business-person on the planet.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/29/the-real-big-brother/
I think you should start entertaining conspiracy theories.
Regards!
so funny at the end when she’s talking about Tom Massy and the bill he changed the name of – to – Kick the Can bill on the Budget
One of the most interesting questions in this discussion was about how, when, and whether, the elites of an empire survive a collapse. And when, and how, do they buy up stranded assets for cheap prices? Or are their assets seized, and to what extent do those assets survive the seizure? (for example, burning the person’s house down) …
And that set me to trying to think of examples. The Ceaușescu family in Romania did not fare so well. Did they have anything to seize? A while back, my spouse and I were watching a semi-documentary on the fall of Nazi Germany. It focused on the Zionist ‘Nazi Hunters’. Some of those Nazi bastards moved to countries like Argentina, and lived there quietly for a very long time — which raised the question, how did they transfer their wealth from Germany to Argentina in the midst of the downfall? Obviously, some of them were also saved by ‘Operation Paperclip’… In a more recent example, we have the Epstein ‘suicide’ story — not exactly a crash of civilization — is he really dead? There was a story that he set up a trust fund days before his arrest. Who is ‘trusted’ to run that fund? Will his assets be seized? And, I just read someone’s journal entry about Russian history, through a machine translation. It was about the Romanov family, and their bankers and security apparatus. Nicholas II was one of the weakest monarchs ever in Europe, but Russia still had a lot of connections with the European economy and establishment. Apparently quite a bit of Tsarist wealth was transferred westward between 1917 and 1921. In another recent example, there were ‘capitalists’ such as Bill Browder, pillaging Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Anyhow, the discussion has inspired some thinking. I tend to agree more with Saker on this point, China will be in the position to buy. The western ‘oligarchs’ may have astronomical amounts of money now, but their mileage may vary, as it says on the sticker in the window. China has been stockpiling gold, and making deals.
“Fitts: My name for that is the ‘Midianite thing’, and that is one of the reasons I think Epstein is in jail (and reportedly committed suicide). They are trying to keep a lid on the ‘Midianite thing’. It is clearly a problem.”
What is the “Midianite thing” and how do the Midianites, an ancient tribe, come in???