This is bizarre. The recent two summits (APEC and G20) have, I would argue, ended up as a disaster for the US and its allies (see here, here and here) while Russia, China and the rest of the BRICS are clearly in control of the situation, yet there are still those who believe the western corporate media which wants to portray Putin are Russia as “weak”.
I suppose in our age of virtual reality perceptions are everything, and in this case such perceptions are clearly molded by exposure to the western corporate media whose brainwashing skills are nothing short of amazing. But let’s look at the facts.
The single biggest development which came out of these two summits is that Xi Jinping has clearly and, for the first time, openly shown that he fully support Putin and Russia.
I remember how earlier this year there were many who were doubting China’s policies towards Russia, many were saying that the “Walmart-effect” (the magnitude US-China economic ties) would never allow China to side with Russia against the US and yet this is exactly what has happened on at least three levels:
1. Economic: not only have Russia and China have signed what can only be called mega-contracts, but the Chinese were more than happy to offer Russian banks (under US/EU sanctions) access to Chinese credits. China is also helping Russia to replace SWIFT.
2. Political: if anything, the Chinese went out of their way to show that not only was Russia not isolated, but that Putin was the guest of honor at the APEC – thereby openly defying the US/EU.
3. Military: Russia and China are now engaged in regular large size joint military exercises including naval and ground operations. Not only are these two training together, they are regularly practicing the creation of joint staffs.
This really should not have come as a surprise to anybody: Russia and China are truly *ideal* partners, and they perfectly complement to each other. What one needs, the other has, and vice-versa. Not only that, but both have been – and still are – bullied by the USA so much that I would argue that the Empire is literally pushing them into each other’s hands. Obama has repeatedly and openly threatened both Russia and China, send them all sorts of ultimatums, tried to assemble coalitions against them and, of course, surrounded both with military bases and US anti-missile systems.
What Obama and his advisors have failed to realize is this: Russia and China (backed by the BRICS, SCO, CSTO, EEU) are far more powerful than the US/EU block in political, economic and military terms. This is the big news, the major strategic development, the geopolitical tectonic shift, which the Empire’s corporate media is trying so hard to obfuscate. As for western leaders, they are simply delusional and they have manifestly fallen into the old trap of believing their own propaganda. But, as the expression goes, “when your head is in the sand, your butt is in the air” and reality has now reasserted itself with a very powerful and painful bite.
The most ridiculous moment of last week’s summit came when Obama, after having failed to achieve any of his objectives against Russia or China, made a speech where he seriously spoke of the importance of “American leadership”. It was comical to the point of being embarrassing. On Russian TV the commentators where literally laughing when reporting this.
As for Putin, obviously sure of his position, he openly poked fun at the idiocy of the US/EU leaders: “Have they thought about what they are doing at all or not? Or has politics blinded them? As we know eyes constitute a peripheral part of brain. Was something switched off in their brains?”. Combined with now an open warning that Russia would not allow the US/EU to crush the Novorussian resistance, Putin’s message is blunt and clear: western leaders are driving their empire into a wall. [If you have not done so already, I urge you to carefully parse Putin’s recent interview with ARD].
The AngloZionist Empire has truly become an “Empire of Illusions” (to use Chris Hedges expression) where facts matter much less than spin, where the normal way to cope with a challenge is to deny its existence, were self-deception is a way of life.
The writing is on the wall. It has been there for a long while.
The problem is that nobody wants to read it.
The Saker
Germany not only supports the nazi coup and subsequent aggression against the population in Ukraine, in violation of the Nuremberg verdict Germany still pays pensions(officially called “victim pensions”) for the nazi war criminals that were hired for the last nazi aggression:
“Hitler’s most loyal followers, were the minions of the Waffen-SS, responsible for atrocities and murders of hundreds of thousands of people during the war. But how can it be that former members of this criminal organization receive pension payments from the German government to today
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The Allies had excluded the members of the SS of all pension rights. “
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=www.rbb-online.de/kontraste/archiv/kontraste-vom-20-03-2014/rentenskandal–juedische-opfer-kaempfen-um-anerkennung–ss-leute.html
Video with auto-translated subtitles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMLOj_cLfpA
At the same time Germany is refusing reparations to thier victims in Russia, Greece and other countries:
“The German government is still refusing reparations to Soviet prisoners of war, seventy years after the German invasion of the Soviet Union.”
http://german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/57945
“All post war German governments, which claim to be the heirs of the Nazi Reich and the defenders of its property, have refused to pay damages for the mass crimes of their testator directly to victims.”
http://german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56053
“Empire of Illusions”
or “delusions of grandeur & self righteousness”
more likey
Excellent commentary.
But despite the strength of the Russian state and military, Russia has a poorly developed economy largely controlled by rentier oligarchs lacking entrepreneural drive or capacity and inclined to take their money off-shore rather than re-invest in Russia. The lack of economic dynamism combined with below-replacement fertility represents a huge threat to Russia’s future security, when relations with the rising Asian superpowers may not be so friendly.
Can you show me a link where Xi sided with Putin at the G-20?
I haven’t seen any.
What I’ve seen is China and the U.S. talking about a “G-2” and China and Australia (member of the “five eyes”) announcing a free-trade agreement this morning.
Also, how can you not have seen how “nervous” (to put it mildly) Putin looked on German TV?
Most of the power of the zionized western oligarchy derives from the successful imposition of illusion. A very Israeli strategy that is now used throughout their colonies in the fascist west.
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much appreciate the frequency and quality of course ,of your articles appearing before your break, thank you
Russia and China do not need my country or any country that supports Nazism!
Mr Putin was the only honorable participant at G20 and he needs none of them !
https://twitter.com/Lucretius4/status/534017382738853888
“Qatar/Bahrain have announced that China will B allowed 2 pay 4 oil imports not in $ but in Renminbi-Yuan.”
While everyone is busy paying attention to Russia, China begins to set-up the downfall of the US dollar.
China sees all this and remind themselves the AZs cannot be trusted. Day one you are their best friend, overnight to day 2, you are their demon. China has loss their investments in countries where they were edged out by AZs imposing regime change: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Africa. What a mess?
On the Isolation meme, we need to excuse the AZ Empire and their steno media because geography is unknown and sovereign states are non-existent – theirs only to plunder.
How does one isolate a country with 11 time zones?
{Isolation? “It isn’t working” says, The Telegraph, UK}
On the economic front, the financial centers have moved from West to East. And the sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its vassals, the EU hurts those who imposed them.
-Here is The Telegraph, UK /Finance stating the obvious: Global economy to suffer as Putin quits G20 early
Dispute between the West and Russia will act as a significant drag on (global) growth for years
David Cameron may have hailed the G20 meetings in Brisbane over the weekend as a success for the global economy. But in reality, the gathering of the world’s most powerful leaders will be remembered only for the abrupt departure of President Vladimir Putin.
The Russian leader had probably already decided before even arriving in Australia to take an early flight home and dispense with the pleasantries of the end-of-summit dinner. Mr. Cameron’s warning that the Kremlin was at a “crossroads” with the West over its alleged intervention in Ukraine, along with Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper’s blunt message for Russia to get out of its neighbouring former client state, will more than likely have stiffened Mr Putin’s resolve to not back down an inch.[.]
Certainly, if the objective is to make Mr. Putin appear isolated on the world stage in order to make him less popular at home, it isn’t working and also shows a profound misunderstanding of the Russian mind-set.[.]
The danger for the global economy is that the dispute between the West and Russia, which is now being widely described as a new Cold War, will act as a significant drag on growth for years to come. It is certainly unlikely that the measures agreed on by the G20 to boost global gross domestic product (GDP) by 2pc, or £1.25 trillion, by 2018 will be achievable for as long as a country the size of Russia – the world’s eighth largest economy – is kept out in the cold. [.]
The brunt of a prolonged economic war with Russia is being felt by Europe and the UK, not the US. European trade with Russia has almost quadrupled over the past decade to around $335bn and many companies now view the country as one of their fastest growing and most important export markets. Exports to Russia are thought to have accounted for 0.6pc of Europe’s GDP before the current round of sanctions was imposed.
Europe finds itself at the centre of a bitter dispute with Russia at a time when its own economic edifice begins to crumble.[.]
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“The problem is that nobody wants to read it.”
The absolute “nobody” doesn’t exist, and the existence of those who don’t want to read is a lateral opportunity not a problem – a lateral opportunity which has been used by some not restricted to reading even during the “times” of Brezhnev.
“This really should not have come as a surprise to anybody: Russia and China are truly *ideal* partners, and they perfectly complement to each other”
This is looked at from the Military, Political and Economic standpoints, but does not include the Cultural or Spiritual, which perhaps were better not separated, or left behind, or considered of lesser importance.
Why is Putin so popular, and why does the global significant of news of Ukraine and Russia lft the waves of popularity of this blog?
Not just because people care, despite the huge importance, of the economy, the military and of politics of these aspects of our society only, but because we profoundly care about the fact that instinctively, Russia presents a new hope and a new opportunity for the West.
We look towards that vast land known as mother Russia, which includes Ukraine, for new values of spirituality and morality.
The amazing spiritual history of Russia, their repelling, at huge cost, of Mongol hordes from the far east during the 13 century, their role in the catastrophic WW2, where would Europe have been without this protection?
What of the many great cultural heritages of Europe now buried beneath an avalanche of materialism? A materialism which overcame both West and the East during the 20c(through the rise of Bolshevism, Leninism and Stalinism)
What great ideas and culture have China that truly and deservedly meet the West?
All that glitters is not gold, is the phrase that comes to my mind..
Yes we are an ’empire of illusions’, but we must wake up, even if only through another great catastrophe, we must wake up. There is no other way.
I agree Russia-China together are extremely powerful. But the empire has no intention of challenging them militarily. Ukraine for them is little more than a gambit pawn to be sacrificed. They are just angry because so far Russia has declined the gambit. Even economically, I doubt they will wage anything like total war with both Russia and China.
But that is not the greatest danger the empire poses. The Anglo-Zionist method of attack is always, and has always been, destabilization and divide and conquer. They will do everything they can to rabble rouse inside both Russia and China. Then they will grasp at any possible straw that allows them to set Russia and China against one another.
I don’t think they will succeed, but it is still a serious threat. And *everyone* has to be on the lookout for it at all times, from the highest head of state down to the lowly commenter on the internet.
Swedish air-force retract statement that a russian plane entered swedish air space.
Turns out it was a French fighter jet…
The nato cheerleaders in Sweden who “knew” is silent know.
Meanwhile the alleged sub is still not identified..
The Spetznas sleeper cells (who will assassinate all swedish fighter pilots before they have the time to get airborne) are laughing now.
“Russia and China (backed by the BRICS, SCO, CSTO, EEU) are far more powerful than the US/EU block in political, economic and military terms”.
Hey Saker, with all due respect, you should double check on this one, not so sure it’s the case yet. Maybe you should put it that way : “Russia and China (backed by the BRICS, SCO, CSTO, EEU) will soon to be more powerful than the US/EU block in political, economic and military terms.
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The United States is trying to consolidate Europe via NATO eastward expansion aiming at rivalry with China for global dominance, the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Russian State Duma declared.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20141115/1014786704.html
brave ukie nazis terrorize civilian woman who probably wants to live i a non=fascist nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4A2ysVsUDqg
Merkel on steroids. You have to believe she has been thoroughly blackmailed into the extreme positions. She sounds like Yulia with a German accent.
Russia could seek to destabilise vast areas of eastern Europe if it is not challenged in Ukraine, Angela Merkel warned on Monday.
In a speech to Sydney’s Lowry Institute for International Policy Studies, the German Chancellor said Russia’s annexation of Crimea and subsequent destabilisation of eastern Ukraine “called the whole of the European peaceful order into question”.
“This isn’t just about Ukraine,” she said. “This is about Moldova, this is about Georgia, and if this continues then one will have to ask about Serbia and one will have to ask about the countries of the Western Balkans.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/angela-merkel/11236622/Angela-Merkel-warns-Russia-could-seek-to-destabilise-whole-of-the-European-peaceful-order.html
And putin was gambling whole non performance of Russia to save ethnic Russian and to save Russian prestige on his personal freindship with Merkel !
What a loser putin has been in last 6 months_ a paper tiger
Re 17 November, 2014 17:20 17 November, 2014 17:20@
“The amazing spiritual history of Russia, their repelling, at huge cost, of Mongol hordes from the far east during the 13 century, …”
Unfortunately, they didn’t repel the Mongols. They succumbed in 1240. Moscow became their chief tribute collector until 1380, becoming strong enough for Dmitri Donskoy to defeat the Mongold temporarily at Kulikovo, for Ivan IV to face down their demand for tribute at the Ugra 100 years later.
They succumbed primarily because they were weak, divided into independent princedoms. As a rule of thumb when Russia is weak and divided it succumbs: to the Poles during the Time of Troubles, to the Germans and their Bolshevik agents in 1917, and to the the U.S. and Nato under Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Only when it is strong and united, as under Peter I, Alexander I, and Stalin, can they prevail; maybe now under Putin.
Exactly.
Russia has lost more land and wealth is so called peace time than in war in last 100 years.
There are some fresher warcrimes to be found in the Ukraine today.
From RT
15:21
Police detain 12 Bosnian Serbs suspected of war crimes
Bosnian police on Monday arrested 12 Bosnian Serbs suspected of crimes against humanity over an attack in the 1992-95 war, in which 150 Muslim Bosniaks were killed with their bodies being dumped in mass graves, Reuters said. The arrests were carried out near the town of Prijedor. The charges include murder, torture, rape, as well as looting and destroying the property of Bosniaks in the village of Zecovi, the prosecutor’s office said. An estimated 100,000 people are believed to have been killed in the war, the large majority of them Bosniaks.
latest “beheading” film production victim Kassig.
Salvador option same playbook as Operation Phoenix in Vietnam 1960’s.
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/peter-kassig-was-part-of-gen-mcchrystals-killing-machine-in-iraq-from-2006-2007/
No doubt, Russia and China can work together very well, indeed – what surprises me is the fact that it took them so long to find out! I bet they were victims of Western propaganda stating the opposite… Now, as ‘the Empire is literally pushing them into each other’s hands’, the future is open. Changes are happening every day. The shift to the East is unstoppable.
Incidentally, China opened today the so-called Stock Connect between Hong Kong and Shanghai stock markets. The effect was immediate (see http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20141117/1014827482.html).
Free trade between China and Australia simply means Chinese owned primary industry in Australia and a few local oligarchs can export product to the Chinese market with less import cost.
also side effect of TPP failure as China choose FTAAP instead has stirred the pot, it seems that US and UK are wishing to fast track the TTIP as resistance is gathering, they want to push it through before that fails also. It will be a disaster for UK, linking its economy to the catastrophically indebted US. fast track TTIP made it onto front page of UK daily mail today. british public asleep and in the dark as always
http://www.ouest-france.fr/node/2982964
Russian sailors barred from boarding the Mistral.
A shout out to Anonymous @ 16:29 who said…
Can you show me a link where Xi sided with Putin at the G-20?
A Video of BRICS members’ pre-summit meeting:
Here embedded in Pepe Escobar’s article is the video of The G5-the real adults at the G20:
“Well, Washington and its string of puppets did try to turn the G20 into a farce. Fortunately the adults in the room had some business to do.”
.The five BRICS member-nations – despite their current problems, the G5 that really matters in the world – did meet before the summit, including the ‘isolated figure’. Economically, this G5 more than matches the old, decrepit G7.
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And more Examples of China’s closer ties with Russia as the sanctions will not persuade China to isolate Russia
Here:
Obama’s Provocations Pushed China, Russia Closer
“One does not need to be a genius to understand that plans to build Pacific economic zones without the region’s two biggest powers – Russia and China – are doomed.”
“In May, and most likely under the impression of American hostility, Russia and China inched closer together and signed a landmark gas deal.”
Here:
A joint statement issued after Putin and Xi held talks on Tuesday, said the two countries will “establish a comprehensive energy cooperation partnership.”
Wednesday’s agreement on the gas supply deal would come as a massive boost to Sino-Russian ties even as Russia struggles with EU and US sanctions over Ukraine.
Earlier on Tuesday, Russian bank, VTB, signed a currency swap deal with Bank of China to bypass the US dollar.
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Btw. I expect the BRICS will be enlarged to become BRIICS, includes Iran plus 70 other countries. In time.
My charming bride and I watched a good deal of the G20, admittedly late at night after all the household duties were done and the children were asleep after long and busy days. We also watched the West Media spin on all that happened.
While we were not surprised at the treatment Mr. Putin received on his arrival and attendance of the event, we were suitably appalled. I have been around for a few decades and I do read a good amount of history, all facets. I have never read or heard of such antics as were pulled by that herd of self righteous kindergarten pupils gathered down in Aussieland. It was as if Mengele had arrived at a bar mitzvah with a package of pork sausage under his arm. Are these ‘leaders’ of the west patently insane? They all know very well what is going on in the fighting up north and they EVERY ONE OF THEM know who shot down the civilian airliner, but they had to keep the message The Media is pounding on 24/7 and try to savage Mr. Putin. They failed miserably and in doing so again showed The World exactly who and what they are.
Of equal import for Mr. Putin, Novorossiya and The World was his very clear and unequivocal announcement that Novorossiya will not fall. I am positive the boys up north knew that already, just as I have known that fact for many months now and if memory serves I have mentioned it from time to time on blog. The fact remains that The World is now on notice, Novorossiya will be. This simple truism may have been what triggered the absolutely unheard of treatment of a sitting Head of State, said State being one of the most powerful in the world. I just answered my own question, these people are insane, patently so.
Bottom line, Novorossiya will be, Mat Rossiya will be and continue to strengthen as is her duty, BRICS and many other nations who have had enough of the hegemony of The West will continue to unite and resist the constant attacks of EU/US/NATO. They know now that the only good defense is to prepare for war. We hope and pray that War does not come to The World and our little bucolic valley, but if it does, so be it.
I will leave you with this, an incident that happened before the referendums in Krim and Sevastopol back in March. We were sitting at a facility one fine early March morn, discussing the current situation down here. Several people of senior status were sitting with we and the boys and we were discussing what to do with the current events. One senior type questioned my bride and I, in fluent English, about us, our family, compound, children, all. He suddenly looked sad for a moment and said, and this is an exact quote, burned in to my mind: “If the referendum fails, load up your ‘children’ and small bags and go to east. Ships will be there to evacuate you to mainland Russia. Do not hesitate, do it instantly. If you wait a day it will be too late. Do it that evening if it looks like the referendum will fail. I say again, don’t wait, go.”
I looked at my wife and she looked at me. “Call //// and //////, tell them to be ready. They will take the children. Call ////// ///// in ///////////// and tell her she may have some guests for a while and tell her all will be compensated for. Do it now.” She did what I told her to do.
I turned to the officer. “We are not leaving. This is our land, our home. We will stay, the children will go east.”
The senior one looked at me silently for a full minute and I at him, full eye contact, unwavering. Everyone else was silent, watching. He then offered his hand and we shook. “Welcome home. Sarjant.”
It is hard to be sad and proud at the same time, but I was.
Russia and Chinese Defense Ministers meeting.
Note that Shoigu will be meeting with Premier Li Keqiang.
In China, when you talk internal business with State Capitalism corporations, and the PLA is one big state enterprise, you talk to the Premier. Thus, the two countries intend to co-develop weapons and defense systems.
And financing for Russian MIC will be arranged so that the budget in Russia is not stressed by the drop in tax revenue and foreign investment and low ruble.
China will be part of the Russian state treasury, backed by gas and oil and gold and probably food for China as security for loans, investments and joint venture participation.
This is very instructive to watch Shoigu. He and Putin are extremely tight and Russia is China’s flank as well as strategic partner.
So for those who saw nothing in Brisbane from China in support of Putin and Russia, you must learn that in China and Asia and foreign affairs, it isn’t like the West. Subtly and place matter. For Shoigu to be in Beijing immediately after G20 and not after APEC tells you what is going down.
Everyone knew the West at the G20 was going to give Putin a tough time. He used it as he uses press conferences and speeches.
There are two faces to the proto-war. One is the West side and the other is the Putin side. It doesn’t matter where the groups of devils meets. Russia goes, participates, makes its statements and goes home. They understand. And under their breath they tell the West “bring it, we’ll finish it at our borders”.
You have to understand China, Russia and the pathetic West desperate to shirtfront either or both.
Have you ever tried to start a fight in a street, schoolyard, ball field or alley? Do you pick on the strongest, quickest, and grab with two hands his shirt? It don’t work that way. You’d get splattered.
Each month that goes by China and Russia get stronger militarily, forge closer ties economically and assure themselves that no group of nations or hegemony can pick a fight or contain them.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/760169
“During his stay in Beijing, the Russian defense minister will hold talks with Chinese Defense Minister General Chang Wanquan. It is expected that the Russian defense minister will be received by Chinese Prime Minister Li Keqiang,” said the ministry official, General-Major Igor Konashenkov, who is accompanying Shoigu on his trip.
“Under discussion at the meeting will be current issues of international and regional security, and bilateral military and military-technical cooperation,” Konashenkov said.
I am an irreconcilable foe of US and Western European (and Japanese) imperialism, including certainly in regards to what the first two-mentioned powers have done and are doing in Ukraine.
That having been said, I am a Marxist and therefore neither support Putin (who is not, however, guilty, for what has occurred in Ukraine) nor pretend that Russia is as powerful as the western imperialist states which are leading the world towards catastrophe.
Russia’s economy is just the 9th largest in the world, and the average citizen there is about as well off as the average citizen in ….. Romania. Wealth is massively concentrated, perhaps even more so than in the US, whose levels of economic inequality are off the charts.
By some measures, China may — though this is disputed by some sources — just have become the largest economy in the world (measured by “purchasing power parity GDP,”) however, its population is 4.25 times that of the US’s population, so the “average” Chinese person is actually very, very poor.
In his latest sabre-rattling speech, Obama sent semi-subtle messages that his government was intent on supporting upper middle-class elements in China to overthrow the regime there and establish an openly comprador, pro-Washington government in that country.
Neither bourgeois Russian nor Chinese (nor Iranian, etc) nationalism can defeat the drive of US imperialism to dominate the whole world; that task falls to the international working class, united under the anti-war and anti-capitalist banner of a genuinely socialist and internationalist party, the Socialist Equality Party (WSWS.ORG)
The book “Neonazis & Euromaidan: From Democracy to Dictatorship” about the role of extreme-right groups in Euromaidan became available for download.
http://www.cis-emo.net/en/news/neonazis-euromaidan-democracy-dictatorship-out-now
Greetings from Singapore:
Good article in Indian Punchline:
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US shows pure evil to Russia, IS pays back
The Islamic State [IS] missed its timing by a whisker in making the announcement that it beheaded an American aid worker. The announcement should have been made a day earlier just when the G20 summit was getting under way and Russian “aggression” in Ukraine was about to be brought to the centre stage as per the pre-planning by western countries led by the United States.
The IS could easily have put President Barack Obama on the horns of a dilemma and his Australian sidekick might not have resorted to such boorish behavior, either.
There is some poetic justice nonetheless that in the event, the US’s triumphalism of turning the G20 into a pulpit to bait Russia proved short-lived.
The IS has reminded Obama that the US has a lot of blood on its hands and murder begets murder. By the way, it is not Muslim blood alone; the “regime change” Obama presided over in Ukraine in February has so far killed 4000 people. What is one American life in Mesopotamia comparison? Yet, Obama calls It “pure evil” when IS killed a single American.
The G20 at Brisbane could have been turned into a creative forum to try to find a solution to the Ukraine crisis. Instead PM Tony Abbott got a midnight phone call from Washington to turn the summit arena into an Orweliian animal farm. Which he did loyally.
The problem begins only now. One, Ukraine situation is going to take a turn for the worse. Much bloodshed can be expected. Russia is determined to safeguard its national interests and after what happened in Brisbane, it will be strengthened in its belief — and rightly so — that Ukraine is only the symptom of a concerted US strategy to contain Russia’s emergent role as an independent power centre in world politics.
Clearly, Obama wants a “frozen conflict” in Ukraine, which creates an obstacle in Russia’s relations with the western European states in the short and medium term and, in turn, helps to consolidate the US’s trans-Atlantic leadership, apart from giving new verve to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Two, the bitterness created at Brisbane in Russia’s relations with the West will vitiate the climate of world politics as a whole. The bad blood in US-Russia ties will find its echo in the United Nations Security Council while that body is called upon to address the “hotspots”. It will outlive the Obama presidency.
Obama’s calculation could be that with Iran on his side, the US doesn’t need Russia’s cooperation in the Middle East. Equally, Obama could be factoring in that the mesmerizing prospects of a “new type of relationship” between the US and China would keep Beijing in abeyance from teaming up with Moscow in a veritable alliance against Washington.
However, both assumptions can go wrong — or worse still, rendered irrelevant — because there are power centres other than Russia, China or Iran in world politics. In fact, the IS just underlined it.
Again, what happens if Russia abandons its self-restraint and switches gear to active opposition to the US’ policies — from one of passive non-cooperation? So far this hasn’t happened for a variety of reasons. Is the G20 at Brisbane a defining moment, finally, for the Russian elites who pander to the West?
The point is, to borrow Obama’s own expression about the IS, Russia just experienced “pure evil” from the US. What was exhibited at Brisbane was malignity of the sort that is “motiveless” — like Iago’s in William Shakespeare’s play Othello.
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Mario Medjeral
Any hunter knows an animal when wounded is at its most dangerous. The Empire is reaching that point. I also believe the assumption that the Russia/China alliance is more powerful militarily than the Empire and its vassals is not an entirely true one.
They’ve historically shown what level of destruction they are fully capable of administering. I am not a supporter or apologist for the psycho’s, however they remain a dangerous adversary; and one with very evil intentions for those that are in opposition to their agenda.
It is laughable that the UK govt is now complaining about economic recovery being threatened by conflicts…. when they were/still are one of the chief cheermongers for the sanctions that have caused the EUs economic slowdown.
“Russia and China are truly *ideal* partners, and they perfectly complement to each other. “
At this point in time this may be true. But in 5-10 years when China has reached military maturity China will not need Russia anymore. China is a hegemon by tradition, their mindset has always respected only strength, not culture. They have never stopped expanding and always have new claims ready (currently Taiwan, some Indian territories and the whole of the South China Sea). So in 10 years IMO the world may be very different. Unless China changes too, which is not completely impossible – but their tradition is very strong.
“China is a hegemon by tradition, their mindset has always respected only strength, not culture. “
That is, frankly, a pure bs claim. China was an inward looking cultural power for centuries before wester influence there.
Nuce try from anglisaxon pirate nations.
anglis are always afraid of russia, china india iranand german liance hence their attempt to create rift ob one pretext or another amonst brics aswell.hopefully world knows now the aglosaxon pirate very well.
David Stockman said on King World News that the Chinese CB is a member of the Z-World of central bankers, which has zero interest in Russian survival.
The MSM is almost total deception, leaving us with history and instincts for guidance of future events.
Over the long term, I don’t see China pulling Putin’s nuts out of the fire.
Hope I’m wrong.
Good luck Mr. Putin.
Hello Saker,
part 1;
Recently for most germans and europeans,there have been revelations that, though germany has been a powerhouse economically,it is still not a sovereign country!.
Since unconditional surrender in 1945 it has had no constitution in a real sense and no law other than ‘the basic law’ dictated by the allies.
The allies stipulated that, after reconstruction and after a peace treaty was signed by a duly elected government,then, a self determined people could write their own constitution.
However the US/UK never intended for Germany to rise again,since the times of von Bismark, Britain loathed their economic potential.
It transpires that,realizing the Red Army had destroyed the Wermacht and that the allies would win,Churchill,FDR,
Eisenhower[haur] and Morganthau discussed Germany’s future.
FDR wanted to “castrate the bastards”,as did Eisenhower [“the best damned clerk I ever had”….said Gen. Douglas McCarther].
Eisenhower and Morganthau wished to totally de-industrialize Germany,turning it into something like the Ukraine.
Churchill argued for reconstruction and re- industrialization to aid in opposing the ” Soviet threat” after FDR died, he won the day.
Source…. Other Losses, by James Bacque
[ An Invesatigation into the Mass Deaths of German Prisoners at the hands of the French and Americans After World War II, (Little, Brown and Company Ltd., c/o Fenn Publishing Company, Ontario, Canada. 1989, 1999, 2004) ].
Part 2
to continue ….
Now we can see why Poland was induced to join Nato…..four enemy states refuse to sign a peace treaty.
Under the UN charter, Germany,Japan and Italy are still referred to as enemy states!,probably Romania too,
and any nation can ‘legally’ make war on them.
Geo-politics seems a little different now ! it seems that this is why Italy is a launch pad for Nato!,Romania is
still a nazi state.
Britain is a vassal state, along with it’s former dependencies,[ I was born there and it disgusts me!!.]
I can tell you without exageration that only 1 in a 1000 know,or care about anything we discuss
on this blog, narcisism rules… period! … only the the culture of celebrity exists for many.
In a nutshell……Britain,France and the US know they are finished… if the BRICS,SCO,CIS and all the other
initiatives are successful, there will be no more Empire for them …..
At present France still controls 15 African nations,issuing their currencies and keeps their gold in Paris.
France was a defeated country!!.
Britain still controls much of the world, through the commonwealth system of central banks,but has no
significant resources itself.
America is bankrupt but still has the petro-dollar and reserve currency status…for now!
116 years of planning gone ….poof!.
The origonal planners like Cecil Rhodes never had the foresight to predict advances like electronics or the
spinoffs from war,the internet revolution or the derivatives and subsequent disasters.
It is a source of amazement to me that otherwise intelligent people, do no understand the simple fact of power!
Those like Kolomoisky… et.. al..
yes they have paper wealth..legal control over real assets like mines,airports,sea ports etc.
When law breaks down….. The law of the gun always rules !…paper wealth disappears, loyalties leave with the money.
Fast rewind to 2007-2009 …. Trillions of wealth, measured in Dollars or Yen/Euro/Yuan/GBP or ?, that were lost in
disasters, that for the most part, were never understood by the principal bond holders,these are the people who
actually control the levers of power….This is QE ! …
Intelligent observers of finance and economics seem perplexed that central bankers continue policies that do
not work….but they really do!…… but only for the intended recipients!,the Sovereign bond holders !!!.
Banks are only a medium of wealth transfer,nothing more,bank excess reserves are transferred into sovereign bonds,
at will…it is all just a scam,in itself, just a meaningless word for those who do not understand!.
In essence, QE is to make the Sovereign bond holders whole.. at the expense of the savers and tax payers…
it is that simple!,
extract taxation-money / labour / value creation and transfer it to the top people!!
Those that have the levers of power will never relent while they live!…it is dynastic….
It is never mentioned in the MSM articles about ‘bail-ins’ …that the savers in banks are tax payers of yesteryear!
bail-in,bail-out….it is the same old wine, in a brand new bottle! .
In Australia there was/is something called a bail-up! yes.. that is right ….theft!. a ‘hold up’.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy…
Hamlet Act 1, scene 5
and no,I no longer live there!
Caveat Emptor.
I agree that the US/EU self-declared superior position seems increasingly built on sand. One big weakness is the world economy which never recovered from the last big crash. The next big crash maybe the world economy’s terminal one.
The problem for Russia and China is that they have fully bought into this economy. Despite sanctions Russia and China are slavishly devoted to capitalism. This may well be their downfall along with the US/EU.
Russia and China, if they want to survive in the long-term, have no other option but to reinvent the socialist economy.
“White Widow”, or but maybe she lived in the world?
From Blog: Pravosudija.net
In the press and in the network a message appeared about an Englishwoman, who was killed in eastern Ukraine. It is alleged that her name was Samantha Lewthwait. In accordance with published in “Komsomolskaya Pravda” message from «DailyMail» she is known as the “White Widow” and is alive and well and is with her new husband in Somalia: “Earlier it was reported that 30-year international delinquent fought in punitive battalions” Donbas”and “Aydar “, and the other day she was shot by militia sniper near Debaltsevo.
However, according to «DailyMail», the Englishwoman now lives in southern Somalia with her husband, who calls himself Marco Costa, and they have two small children. As the newspaper notes, the photograph in the passport of Mark Costa – is jihadist Fahmy Jamal Salim, who is hiding from the Kenyan police after the killing of two police officers in Nairobi in 2011. As evidence that the “White Widow” is alive and is now married to Salim, the newspaper publishes a joint selfie of spouses in their home. Lets recall, Lewthwait was the widow of a suicide bomber Jermaine Lindsay who blew up a train in the London Underground in 2005 year. And until her appearance in Ukraine she was a fugitives from justice in Africa. ”
Here’s what I found out about this story. The published version is connected with reality in one detail: a British woman was indeed murdered in eastern Ukraine. Many “volunteers” from Europe with Ukrainian connections serve in the battalion “Aydar”. A young woman from Leeds arrived there with her boyfriend. He’s English citizen of Ukrainian family. Englishwoman’s name was Harriet, and she served under the direct command of Sergei Melnychuk.
According to my reliable sources, she was killed as a result of rape – to conceal the crime. One detail is unclear: the perpetrator was either himself Melnychuk or his deputy, and I have not been able to establish the identity of the suspect beyond reasonable doubt. Anyway, the victim threatened to call the police, which not particularly worried the criminals. However, she said that she will appeal to the British Embassy in Kiev and will raise a huge scandal.
The commanders of the battalion “Aydar” could not let her spoil established excellent relations with the British. As a result, “separatists killed a terrorist” The British also not interested in public response and to risk or, even worse – the change of attitudes of the British public to the conflict. Whatever happens in war, barbarians can only be Russian, and under no circumstances should the Ukrainians.
Now things are going well, no one in the UK would not shed a tear for the “known terrorist Samantu Lewthwait”, regardless of whether she is alive or dead. The fate of Harriet from Leeds would not be know to her compatriots
. November 17, 2014 – 23:47
Translated from Russian 11/17/14 3:40 pm ET
Strategically Russia and China are perfect partners. The energy pact was just waiting to happen. Tactically they need some work but they are getting there. Shutting out the US will take a lot of effort since they have a lot of tricks in their bags. Dirty ones too. They will never fight a war they might loose or with great loss. It won’t happen. My take is that in the coming years we’ll watch and witness a lot more illusions on hollywood level in real life. The US and therefore the AZ might not have the upper hand in the future but that does not make for a peaceful world since they took a lot of their “mad dog” tactics from israel. To see a real change some politicians need to leave the world stage willingly or forcefully. They need to be taken out of power. Every single one of them. That will be what the next “war” will be about. We are not in clear water yet.
Some people think Putin is weak for calling western leaders his “partners.” But maybe Putin thinks they are weak by calling them that. It almost sounds condescending.
Curtis LeMay thought John F. Kennedy was weak – for not launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the Soviet Union. He actually believed it would be necessary sooner or later. LeMay’s SAC commander was almost as crazy as he was. Some of these western leaders might not be stronger than Putin, but they might be crazier. McCain doesn’t even try to hide it. Crazy = strong, sane = weak. Weak isn’t so bad.
If this article is correct, and I have no reason to believe it is not, then the West has to be very wary of a military confrontation with Russia as it is entirely possible that their entire Mediterranean and Gulf Fleet could be literally wiped out in minutes.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40222.htm
If that article os right thenRussia and china must hasten to war to tske out the anglosaxons 6 evil eyes _ the rest of europeans are not enemies.
»First and foremost Russia must diversify its economy; it must industrialize its raw materials and invest heavily in substituting local production for Western imports. While shifting its trade to China is a positive step, it mustnot replicate the previous commodities (oil and gas) for manufactured goods trading pattern of the past.
»Secondly, Russia must re-nationalize its banking, foreign trade and strategic industries, ending the dubious political and economic loyalties and rentier behavior of the current dysfunctional private ‘capitalist’ class. The Putin Administration must shift from oligarchs to technocrats, from rentiers to entrepreneurs, from speculators who earn in Russia and invest in the West to workers co-participation– in a word it must deepen the national,public, and productive character of the economy. It is not enough to claim that oligarchs who remain in Russia and declare loyalty to the Putin Administration are legitimate economic agents. They have generally disinvested from Russia, transferred their wealth abroad and have questioned legitimate state authority under pressure from Western sanctions.
»Russia needs a new economic and political revolution – in which the government recognizes the West as an imperial threat and in which it counts on the organized Russian working class and not on dubious oligarchs. The Putin Administration has pulled Russia from the abyss and has instilled dignity and self-respect among Russians at home and abroad by standing up to Western aggression in the Ukraine. From this point on, President Putin needs to move forward and dismantle the entire Yeltsin klepto-state and economy and re-industrialize, diversify and develop its own high technology for a diversified economy. And above all Russia needs to create new democratic, popular forms of democracy to sustain the transition to a secure, anti-imperialist and sovereign state.
»President Putin has the backing of the vast majority of Russian people; he has the scientific and professional cadre; he has allies in China and among the BRICs; and he has the will and the power to “do the right thing”. The question remains whether Putin will succeed in this historical mission or whether, out of fear and indecision, he will capitulate before the threats of a dangerous and decaying West.»
http://www.dedefensa.org/article-la_le_on_du_g20_et_le_jeu_de_la_russie_17_11_2014.html
Russia’s Vulnerability to the EU–US Sanctions & Military Encroachments.
http://www.4thmedia.org/2014/11/russias-vulnerability-to-eu-us-sanctions-and-military-encroachments/
A key metric showing how russia is keen or desperate to build back up her deterrent part of the military is to look at the long-range (stand-off) arms being pursued, which would be the Topol MIRV ICBM, its silent service nuclear subs & that armament onboard, which is the Bulava MIRV ICBM again, up to 10 per missile.
As such, all those theater of operations= battlefield tactical nuclear missiles, IRBMs at best,are no deterrent at all, & which i notice are being magically touted now by the MSM in some big blaring article as russia having a huge number advantage in the western Europe theater (shades of 1960’s ‘missile gap’ BIG LIE!)—how could they have missed that these dozen years right under their noses?
We saw this over 50 years ago when the bastards always itching for a new war somewhere had the Jupiter IRBMs put in first in italy 1961, then 1962 into Turkey, then a very new nato member, at a military base Izmir across the black sea from russia.
kruschev correctly saw that the only way of defeating this was to go toe-to-toe with them, by getting some missiles put in somewhere close to CONUS, which was of course Cuba, just 90 miles offshore.
their first new generation nuclear sub since the fall of USSR was launched only in 2009, & they have had some fails with the Bulava, just as with the Topol.
this test was just 2 weeks ago:
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/757230
MOSCOW, October 29. /TASS/. Strategic nuclear submarine Yuri Dolgoruky has launched a Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile from the Barents Sea towards the Kura testing range in Kamchatka, the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry told TASS on Wednesday.
No need for Russia to do more than send only Tens of Topol and Bulova missiles to England _ that will cut the hrad of 5 eyes evil anglos empire.
that is whyRussia must not sign intermediate range missile regime. Her main enemy is only 2000 kilometers west. SoRusdia must concentrate on taking out the main plotter and enemy of Rusdia at First opportunity.
that will shorten war to one week only_ no more world war 3 being plotted by england
Another country being targeted for regime change:
Hungarians rally against corruption and demand resignation of Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his government
because,
(Reuters) – More than 10,000 Hungarians rallied in Budapest on Monday to demand the resignation of Prime Minister Viktor Orban, accusing him of employing corrupt public servants and cosying up to the Kremlin.
The numbers who turned up at parliament for the rally – billed by organizers as a “Day of Public Outrage” – were much smaller than the crowds which protested a planned tax on the Internet last month and forced Orban to shelve the plan.
Alleged corruption has become a new rallying cry for Orban’s opponents after the United States said it was barring entry to six Hungarian public servants, including the head of the tax authority, on suspicion of being associated with graft.[.]
Orban has raised concern in the United States and European Union with policies that his critics say have penalized big businesses, limited democratic freedoms and pulled Hungary closer into the Kremlin’s orbit.
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we can’t have big business being penalized or having sanctions being by-passed
When they ridicule you, you praise them.
When they humiliate you, you smile.
When they pretend to be strong, you show your weakness.
Because when they come, you’ll crush them.
PM Putin is applying a mix of Lao Tzu and Sun Tzu’s philosophies here and I’m loving it.
Praising Australian PM Abbott and calling him ‘Tony’, after he sent a desk jockey [duck up from the basement] to greet PM Putin.
Brilliant!
That’s what happens when your central bank’s vaults are stuffed with real money and shiny gold.
There this little bit of news
http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/why-russia-and-china-see-eye-to-eye-on-cyber-security/big-brother-george-orwell-internet-security-domestic-spying/c1s17328/#.VGp-6GctB9A
Could not agree more with your analysis of the G20. Here on Sunday morning, the media through twenty-something bimbo reporters stated that no one would sit next to Putin, no one like him (I am not making things up — that was about the substance of the coverage of the three commercial channels).
At that point I realised that the west had been drubbed.
On Monday the Pres. XI entered the Australian Parliament. It looks like we are signing on to the Chinese Asian Pact, the US pivot through the transpacific treaty is DEAD!!
The James Petras recommendations mentionned by Anonymous 21:45 are not just adviceable. They are essential if Russia is to survive as a distinct nation and cultural entity. If it continues with its current model of export raw materials and import everything else, it will definitely disappear.
http://endthelie.com/2014/11/15/ankara-washington-agree-train-2000-syrian-rebels-turkey-report/
Reuters / Hosam Katan
The US and Turkey agreed on plans to train 2,000 members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) on Turkish territory, but the sides failed to agree on the question of training Kurdish groups, which Ankara has labeled members of a terrorist organization.
Spy vs Spy.
http://endthelie.com/2014/11/15/always-watching-undercover-feds-surge-numbers-infiltrate-protests-report/
At least 40 government agencies use undercover operatives in the US, with agents pretending to be business people, protesters, doctors, accountants, and welfare recipients, among other things, in order to monitor illegal activity. The information was printed in The New York Times, which cited records and interviews.
Interesting interview of Novorossia fighter by Graham Phillips from Nikishino. Anyone want to buy an APC? Also Right Sector firing at Ukrainian army.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0rWmH5HoA
Also this one “Letters to the Front-line”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYm6l9ThUe8
https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK
NotSoFast said… @20:18
“China is a hegemon by tradition…”
When did this happen? Han and Tang dynasties fell after the empire was bankrupted by westward expansion. Chinese ships sailed as far as Africa in the early 15th century, but China never did what Spain did to the Americas, and the whole sordid history of European colonialism that followed.
And have you no experience with Chinese art, literature and philosophy? Even Mao Zedong wrote poetry.
I have no idea what the future will bring, but at the moment, it benefits the current hegemon to sow discord between Russia and China.
I saw an example last night of direct propaganda here in Australia. SBS news – a government multi-language TV/radio service was showing the new clip of the crash of MH17. You may have seen it this week (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDMjnwbIDBE).
The female commentator was pointing out how a local was unconcernedly working on his hay stack while the jetliner was burning fiercely in the background nearby.
Anybody who actually watched the clip could see that what he was doing was trying to pull out smoking parts of the haystack with a pitch fork before the whole thing went up in flames.
On the good side, I did see that when Putin left Australia, he stopped to shake the hand of the motorcycle cop that provided escort to him to the airport. How many world leaders do stuff like that?
Anonymous Anonymous said…
It is laughable that the UK govt is now complaining about economic recovery being threatened by conflicts…. when they were/still are one of the chief cheermongers for the sanctions that have caused the EUs economic slowdown.
That was entirely the point anonymous. They needed someone to blame the lack of a recovery on and they chose Russia. Only Russia didn’t play along. But this is exactly what they wanted. They need to save face at the collapse of their “superior” system by blaming someone else for its failure. Russia being sacrificed to save capitalism.
The harping on Waffen SS pensions is pointless. The Waffen SS were primarily soldiers and they did not commit appreciably more atrocities than most other armies in the Second World War. There is no reason for the German government not to pay their pensions.
Regarding flip benzoni’s comment,
I am seeing shades of “EuroSiberia” idea in flip benzoni’s comment. This is the notion that Russia is fundamentally a European country and that, integrated into a larger Europe from Lisbon to Vladivistock, then one can have a European superpower both independent of the USA as well as being the dominant power in the world. Based on this view, Russia is a vast reservoir of spiritual values and military manpower that would, integrated into Europe, would help Europe shake off its current decadence while avoiding the geopolitical decline that its small territory and declining population would lead it in the face of the return of the continental civilizations of China and India to world politics.
The problem with this view is that it assumes that racial solidarity between Europeans and Russians will trump geography and history. Russia was rarely, if ever, the eastern European bulwark against Asiatic hordes. As Saker has noted in a previous post, the medieval Russians were pressed by both Mongols and Catholic Europeans and they generally decided that the suzerainty of the former was preferable. The decline of Mongol power in Russia led to the western Rus lands coming under Polish and Lithuanian rule and this created the conditions for the division of the Rus into Great Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians that many Russian patriots bemoan today. Furthermore, it was the Mongol experience that led to the rise of autocratic Muscovy and hence the Russian Empire which mastered both the perennial threat from the steppe nomads as well as beating back western invaders. Had the medieval Russians followed the European aristocratic political model rather than the Sino-Mongol autocratic model, given the weather conditions of the region, would likely have remained decentralized principalities that would have ended up as satellites of either Poland or Sweden.
As for spiritual values, all of the challengers to US hegemony are still in the process of working out a spiritual-ideological alternative to the US model. For the last several years, it does not go much beyond multipolarity and a bit more dirigism in economic affairs. The intensification of their conflicts with US seems to be pushing Russia and China to work more on articulating an alternative civilizational model but it is still very much a work in progress.
As for Notsofast,
Taiwan is Chinese territory where a significant portion of the populace has been culturally alienated from China via the Japanese colonial experience and subsequent American shenanigans. Seeking to recoup Taiwan is not a sign of “expansionism”. The Sino-Indian border was never clearly demarcated so that border will involve some give-and-take but China is under no moral obligation to accept the Indian position. Ditto for the South China Sea. Furthermore, the notion that China respects only strength rather than culture is nonsense. The whole basis of Chinese influence among its neighbours for most of recorded history was the prestige of the Chinese culture. China was the “Middle Kingdom” even when it was miltarily weaker than the northern steppe nomads. Of course, the experience of the 19th century has led many Chinese to appreciate strength in international affairs a lot more but to claim that China is a historically expansionist power is false. Chinese territory over the centuries has grown at the rate of most continental states. Big conquests only really occurred on the northern and western frontiers were frankly they were needed to subdue threats from the steppe.
Saker, you should have a youtube channel and upload your podcasts to youtube. Everytime you made a new podcast it would automatically be sent to all your subscribers.
@ anon 00.00
“When did this happen? Han and Tang dynasties fell after the empire was bankrupted by westward expansion. Chinese ships sailed as far as Africa in the early 15th century, but China never did what Spain did to the Americas, and the whole sordid history of European colonialism that followed.
And have you no experience with Chinese art, literature and philosophy? Even Mao Zedong wrote poetry.”
This discussion is not new. Here is a summary of one of my latest posts:
The picture you paint of China and its mindset is different from what I experienced myself. Here is my personal experience:
– I’ve had 30+ years of good relationships with Chinese immigrants in Europe, some of which have become good friends
– When I noticed they came from another planet (culturally speaking :-) ) I took 3 years of Chinese courses
– I also read (translations of) some of their literature (Confucius, Tao, I Jing)
– and it took me at least 3-5 years to emotionally adjust to their cultural outlook and to accept parts of their tradition.
My conclusions were (and are) that the Chinese outlook is very different from ours in the following points:
– each individual is only responsible for himself
– each individual is extremely sensitive to his own desires but completely insensitive to the desires of others (linked to the preceding point) – unless the other is powerful.
– an attitude of „Winner takes all“ – competitors who are weak have no rights (in other words might is right)
– if you are cheated by somebody it’s your own fault because you did’nt pay attention (see f. ex. the 36 stratagems)
– helping others is unadvisable because you will most likely become a victim yourself (understandable in view of the preceding points)
– an overall feeling of racial superiority which is considered normal and patriotic
The parts of Chinese tradition that I finally felt I could accept were
– you are also responsible for yourself: only helping others while ignoring yourself is not good policy. But you are also responsible for others – the one you help today may help you tomorrow.
– the Chinese idea of racial superiority=patriotism is closer to the normal human feeling than the AZ attitude which I feel uncomfortable with. But I reject the idea of overall superiority and the ensuing genocides.
And I might add that I’m quite relieved that people like Putin, Khazin and Strelkov seem to tend towards a somewhat similar understanding.
As to Mao he not only wrote poetry he is also known for statements like “A lie repeated 50 times becomes a truth” – for ex. he promised the Tibetans that their language and culture would be protected by the Chinese constitution – and if you are aware of Tibet news this is simply a lie because Tibetan language and religion are both violently suppressed.
These podcasts really need to be on youtube!
Sorry Saker, but in G20 putins performance or non performance was insult to Russia as a Great country.
such a pwer like Russia must not tolerate non entities like australian, canadan and british Pms’ sh_t.
putin had to be more aggressive because it is not him but honour of Russia at stake.
Russia has lost much more land by not fighting than by fighting.Think about it.
The Western leaders, along with the majority of their populations do indeed fall victims of their own propaganda. It is also true that they console and soothe themselves with rubbish media claims and falsehoods or semi-truths. Just to give a few examples of western “mythmaking” at its purest: a) Witness how all economic date are spun in such an extreme way as to be made to look good for the western sheeple. b) Witness their eternally pessimistic projections over the development of the Chinese and Russian economies. They have been declaring for decades that China is about to collapse, that the Party will lose power, that China cannot innovate etc.. The end result? China has achieved the most astonishing economic growth in the history of mankind. They have also been predicting for years that Russian oil production will start declining. The end result? Russian oil production has risen from less than 6 million barrels per day to almost 11 million. Their worry that the Russian economy will keep growing at around 3% per year has compelled them to embark on this sanctions rollercoaster. While it is true that Russian economic performance is not as good as it should have been, it has been better to that of the West in recent years and I would expect the trend to continue, especially once Russia manages to adapt to the sanctions environment. c) Just witness all the laughable arguments as to why Russia and China will eventually fall out. It makes for cringeworthy reading, yet the western presstitudes and their sheeple seem to literally fall for it. I can go one and on about all their ludicrous economic and geopolitical predictions of the past two decades or so, which have all been proven false time and again. I saw a poster claiming that he did not see Xi supporting Putin. Well, I am sorry to observe that he must have been watching (and believing) western media propaganda on the APEC meeting. Putin was clearly the guest of honor while Obama was relegated to the “wives club” position. Also of great symbolic importance, was the announcement of Russia and China of celebrating the 70th anniversary of V-Day jointly! You can get no more symbolic than that.
I am surprised by how many in here seem to doubt the potential for ever more enhanced cooperation between Russia and China. This was my reply to an ill-informed western zombie, who could not see the bleeding obvious. It was on the discussion forum of a MSM propaganda website:
“1) The US and China are strategic rivals. That is why I keep on stressing the fact the the US has surrounded China with military bases and alliances. I am merely providing concrete evidence in order to back up my claims. If China and the US were allies, then there would be no need for the American Armed Forces to maintain an aggressive posture against the Chinese homeland.
2) Russia and China have a lot in common. They have both fought against Western Imperialism for eons, they have both suffered greatly in the past, they are both demonized in the western press, they are both surrounded by the US Military, they are both explicitly left out by the proposed new trade arrangements that the US is pushing very hard for (TTIP and TPP) they are both outside the western financial system, and their respective economies are perfectly compatible. All these are undisputed facts and they can be expected further, a lot further.
3) If you knew history you would have known that there are two types of countries on the planet, the West and the rest. Both China and Russia fall manifestly in the “rest” category.
4) I do not understand what you mean by China has “respect” in the West. If you had said that in the West China is more feared than Russia, then may be I would agree.
5) Where exactly are you locating any hostility between Russia and China? I would like to see some proof instead of mainstream press fantasy theories. By the way, just a few short hours ago, the respective leaders of the two countries have just signed a new mega gas deal. They seemed pretty friendly to me when they were shaking hands.
6) Western journalists are bought and paid for by corporate and state interests. They almost never step outside the party line and repeat the same inanities over and over again. If you do not believe me, I can provide you with a lot of proof. Isolated cases of individual politicians haunted by the press proves nothing at all, I am referring to the role that the mainstream press plays apropos foreign policy and economic policy in their fundamental manifestations. Debate revolves only around secondary and very narrow issues. The fundamental parameters of what is being discussed has always been very tightly controlled.”
“Sorry Saker, but in G20 putins performance or non performance was insult to Russia as a Great country.
such a pwer like Russia must not tolerate non entities like australian, canadan and british Pms’ sh_t.
putin had to be more aggressive because it is not him but honour of Russia at stake.
Russia has lost much more land by not fighting than by fighting.Think about it.”
What did you expect Putin to do? Start behaving like a clown just because the Anglo-Zionist minions felt emboldened on home soil? Putin speaks with actions, at the right place and at the right time. He is no kindergarten politician like Harper, or Cameron who are both anxious to get re-elected in up-coming elections. Putin sees far into the future, not 3 weeks or months from now.
“And putin was gambling whole non performance of Russia to save ethnic Russian and to save Russian prestige on his personal freindship with Merkel !
What a loser putin has been in last 6 months_ a paper tiger”
This may, or may not be true. Namely that he Putin has shown excessive respect and trust to the Germans. But keep in mind the Putin and Merkel have had several long conversations in recent months, and also had a 4-hour meeting recently in Brisbane. The truth is that we have no clue of what was it that they were discussing. My best guesstimation is that ze Germans are trying to play a double game here. Some officials trying to act anti-Russian and pro-Western alliance etc etc etc, while others more conciliatory and keeping their options open behind the scenes. But I have no way of actually knowing that. But it is definitely the case that Merkel and Steinmeyer have been playing some sort of good cop bad cop routine.
No matter what high-blown claims the politicians make each year on Remembrance Day, The Great War was essentially a fight between two branches of a single royal family over the balance of power on the continent of Europe, British foreign policy holding to a longstanding principle that no one nation should ever be permitted to dominate the continent.
It was also a war between the world’s greatest existing imperial power, Britain, and another state, Germany, which aspired to become a greater imperial power than it was.
To a considerable extent, it was a war resulting from large standing armies and great arms races, a telling indictment of those who preach the false gospel of ever-greater military strength to defend freedom. As with any huge, shiny new investment, great armies will always be used, and the results are almost invariably great misery.
The First World War was not a war to end all wars, as a slogan of the time claimed. If anything, it was a precursor for a great many wars to follow, and, most importantly, it was a powerful and important cause of World War II.
It also was not a war about democracy since none of the participants, including Britain, would qualify as democracies by any reasonable reckoning with their heavily limited voting franchise and government structures stacked in the interests of old and privileged orders, quite apart from their holding empires whose populations enjoyed no franchise at all.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/14/what-we-truly-learned-from-the-great-war-2/
Mao did promise the Dalai Lama that the Tibetan lamaist administration would remain in place and that socialism would be introduced gradually. Then came the rebellion against the PRC in Kham and Amdo which were ethnically Tibetan to a large extent but were not of the Dalai Lama’s administration (and as such were not subject to the gradualist approach promised). The Dalai Lama and his associates decided to throw their lot in with the rebellion and the American CIA. They claim that there was a Chinese plot to assasinate the Dalai Lama though how such a plot would help Chinese control is not so clear since anything untoward happening to the Dalai Lama would have been blamed by the populace on Beijing. After that it would have been silly to imagine that Mao would have kept the lamaist administration in place for any length of time. What has been suppressed in Tibet is the lamaist administration and political influence, and not, except for the interlude of the Cultural Revolution, the Tibetan language or the religion itself.
All of you who think that Germany play indenpendent politix look at this. I posted link about WW1 with key understanding: “The Great War was essentially a fight between two branches of a single royal family over the balance of power on the continent of Europe, British foreign policy holding to a longstanding principle that no one nation should ever be permitted to dominate the continent.”
We all know that inhabitants of The isles are genetical siblings of Basques, so in distant past was their language. But we call them after germanic tribes anglo-saxons.
The great ruler of Roman empire was Charlemagne. His descendants are heirs of empire and Vatican. British royal family is Saxe/Coburg/Gotha they just changed name to Windsor after WW2. Another branches: Orange/Nassau = Dutch royals, Hanover- prince Bernhardt of Hanover, daddy of current dutch queen and former nazi. Hohenzolern= Teutonic knights order= Prussians.
First you read about Northern crusades. When Prussians turned to reformation and did not wanted share fortune with family they just ignited problems. In WW1 kaiser Wilhelm, Otto von Bismarck, dutch and british royals, and president of USA were cousins. Some 40 USA presidents are descendants of Charlemahne. Those who were not were killed. Search for Royal Presidents.
http://asis.com/users/stag/uspres.html
I think this dynasty controls world not Rothschild etc
The American Vizier in Hungary oversees the beginning of the maidan there:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-hungary-envoy-under-fire-attending-protest-170811666.html
Thank you, Song, for your info about Tibet.
Having illusions is sometimes a survival mechanism, say to get a person through a difficult period.
Believing those illusions chances delusion when acting on that belief.
The trick is to know each, their difference and their deceptions.
I don’t know what everyone keeps expecting Putin to do. Start swinging like a drunk street fighter? Refuse to shake hands with someone who has the cheek to say he’s only shaking because he has to?
He went there. He turned the other cheek to all the insults. Look at the amused-at-kids’-antics expression on his face.
So he called them “partners” (even that some have objected to)?. They ARE partners, they DO have dealings together. He did not say brothers.
And then he went home early, pleading a long flight WHICH HE DETAILED, to rub it in how very huge his country is. Longer from Vladivostok to Moscow than Brisbane to Vladivostok.
Then he did not stay for the dinner.
He did not break bread with them
re Stephen Harper-“get out of Ukraine”= get out of the arctic….watch for developments there please, remember Canadian ship in Black Sea, Canada claims Lomonsov Ridge that Rus says has geologically proved to be of same composition as rus geolgy. Also hence so many sanctions concerning oil production processes that are denying technology/expertise/finance etc etc to Rus to exploit oil in difficult places.
@NotSoFast 17 November, 2014 20:18
“China is a hegemon by tradition, their mindset has always respected only strength, not culture. They have never stopped expanding and always have new claims ready”
If China never stops expanding, please explain the Great Wall. If the Chinese were planning to expand beyond it, why did they go to the immense effort of building the Wall?
And it wasn’t just one Great Wall built 2000 years ago. Many Walls have been raised up over the millenia, which means that China’s non-expansionist policy has been rather consistent for a long, LONG time.
The Apollonian
@Anonymous, 17 November, 2014 20:28
“David Stockman said on King World News that the Chinese CB is a member of the Z-World of central bankers, which has zero interest in Russian survival.”
Sure. If the Chinese Central Bank is such a great supporter of the Zionist world, why is China so clearly trying to undermine the U.S. dollar as reserve? There is now an enormous push to avoid the U.S. fiat currency in international trade; and China is by far the strongest leader of this movement. So reality seems to be contradicting Stockman’s claim.
The Appollonian
re:Tibet
“What has been suppressed in Tibet is the lamaist administration and political influence, and not, except for the interlude of the Cultural Revolution, the Tibetan language or the religion itself.”
I was member of a Tibet-support group for 4 years where I was responsible for the news bulletin.I was therefore in contact with many other groups and I’m still today receiving info. And I’ve been to India and to international conferences and to Dharamsala. As far as I’m aware here is what is happening in Tibet:
– over 90% of the monasteries are closed or destroyed. Those who remain house more police than monks.
– religious festivals (and some traditional non-religious festivals) are more and more forbidden in Tibet.
– the Tibetan language has been removed from all school curricula. Protests by pupils, students, teachers and Tibetans were ignored. Those Tibetans who want to keep their language by organizing private courses or private schools are persecuted. Persecution takes the form of shooting, arresting and widespread and systematic torture. I have seen myself the yearly accounts of our Tibet-support group and I’ve seen the expenses and medical statments related to torture rehabilitation.
– Contrary to the official Chinese position Tibet was never a Chinese province: it was a province of the Mongolian Empire which included also China. Additionally a Tibetan ruler once married a Chinese princess. But this does not make a Chinese province out of Tibet. Tibet had its own language, writing and culture and had no Chinese populations – the invasion in 1950 was a pure landgrab for a huge territory, very strategic water resources and hoped for mineral resources.
re: The Dalai Lama and the CIA
I am not a religious man and I have nothing for or against the Dalai Lama. However if I put myself in his shoes I can certainly understand his reactions:
His peaceful country has been invaded by a brutal colonizer who uses shootings, torture and all forms of intimidation to suppress dissent. Foreign countries who dare to invite the Lama are pressured or blackmailed to rescind the invitation. So what is a ruler to do if he wants to support his people who burn themselves to death as they see their culture and language destroyed? The unfortunate reality is that the only country that does not react to the PRC’s pressure is the AZ Empire. They do it for their own reasons of course – but if the Lama refuses their support he is left with nothing.
I did protest to the Tibet Network when they gave support to the Hong Kong psy-op. They could not answer honestly of course but by now I understand that they are between a rock and a hard place.
Not so fast.
in mid 80s the evil bitch margaret thather refused to meet Dalai Lama becuase it would have annoyedChina which was west darling in mid 80s .