Since nothing dramatic is going on (thanks God for that!), I can mention little things which want to share with you. This time, yet again, its the BBC which triggered my disgust. This is the BBC article about the airplane crash which took place in Algeria today:
An Algerian military transport plane has crashed in the north-east of the country, killing all but one of the 78 people on board. The Hercules C-130 crashed into a mountain in Oum al-Bouaghi province, en route to Constantine, in bad weather conditions. One survivor is being treated for head injuries, reports said. The government and military say 78 people were on board – not 103 as reported by officials and local media. Most of those on board were military personnel and their family members. “I saw the military plane crashing, and it was cut into two pieces,” a firefighter, Mohamed, told Reuters news agency at Ouled Gacem, near the crash site. Women and children were among the 77 bodies recovered from the crash site. Dozens of rescue workers reached the scene, despite the mountainous terrain and wintry weather conditions (…)
Nothing special, right? True.
And yet, there is something very obnoxious here. The article says “Hercules C-130”. It does not say “US-built Hercules C-130”. So what? Why should the BBC specify that the C-130 is build in the USA? I don’t see a reason for that too.
But my question is this: why is it that when a Russian-built aircraft crashes the BBC always, always, absolutely *always* writes “Russian-built Tupolev” or “Russian-built Antonov”. If you do not believe me, look in the BBC archives for yourself. Western-built aircraft are always designated by model only, but if the aircraft is Russian, then it is always referred to as “Russian-built”. Why?
To associate Russian aircraft with crashes, of course. Nevermind that in fact Russian aircraft are mostly more reliable than their western equivalents, that they are easier to maintain, and that they can take infinitely more abuse. And nevermind that the Russian air transport industry has a safety record pretty much on par with the West. If it crashes, its because it is Russian-built.
Think I am paranoid – check for yourself.
I even wrote to the BBC a few years ago. Never got a reply.
Does that mean that the BBC has some kind of minder which sits there and makes sure that every time a Russian-built aircraft crashes its country of origin is mentioned? Of course not. It’s much worse than that. This has become a cultural automatism. Reporters do that automatically, without even thinking about it.
It’s a little thing, of course, but it is typical of an imperial, of not racist, mindset.
Next time an aircraft crashes, see for yourself is this “Saker law of BBC coverage” holds or not.
Cheers,
The Saker
I love you man.This is one of my dislikes of western media along with all of the more horrible lies,omissions and petty browbeating.Also the propaganda by omission.Thanx Polarbare47
I agree with every article I read on this sight.The west will never say anything good about;Russia Venezuela,Cuba or mention any of their achievements.Thanx Polarbare47
england is the msot evil nation in the world and enemy of all nations. england is the main plotter agasint russia and china and germany etc.
Britain’s “Bomber” Harris, who led the RAF Bomber Command during its mass raids on Germany in the Second World War, cut his teeth devastating Kurdish villages in Iraq in the 1920s.
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may 25th, 2007.
LaRouche on Russian TV: “British Empire” Determined to have a war with Russia, China and India
May 25 (LPAC)–The impact of Lyndon LaRouche’s visit to Moscow last week is still being felt, with repeat broadcasts of LaRouche’s interview in Moscow May 16, to the economist Mikhail Khazin, host of the “A+ in Economics” weekly program on the Spas Channel, a satellite TV station linked with the Russian Orthodox Church. The interview first aired on Friday, May 18, and was repeated several times.
With “showdowns” looming between the Anglo-American-Euro bloc at the United Nations and Russia and China over Iran, and possibly over Kosovo, LaRouche identified the real war danger as coming from the British Empire–as he has described it–targeting Russia, China and India.
Mr. Putin -there is not much time left. Anglosaxon pirate race like English and Americans are spreading their evil design like wild fire on this world, 2020 is too late. Russia has to prepare for coming world war 3 imposed on it by England and run by USA. Russia must ally with China and Germany to destroy England the primary seat of evil.
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4th June, 2007.
President putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all the cities, towns and big villages( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how germany wes villified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
such is the evil propaganda of british spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british parasites.
It is no use targeting poland -target the main villain which is england and the english race which must be annihilated from the face of the world.
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RUSSIA NOT REALIZE THAT IF EVER IRAN IS ATTACKED AND DEFEATED BY USA ATHEN RUSSIA WILL LOSE ALL STATUS AND PRESTIGE OF EVEN THIRD RATE PWOER INT HE WORLD AND THEN NO COUNTRY WILL BE WIILING TO BE ON SIDE OF RUSSIABECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO BE WITH A STRONG SCOUNTRY WHO CAN ORDER AND MANAGE THE AGENDA AS AMERICA IS TRYING TO DO AND THEN RUSSIA WILL BE =DESTROYED AS IS THE VERY INSTEDSION OF USA?
RUSSIA MUST NOT LET USA SCORE3 ANY MORE POINT ANYWHERE LET ALONE IN IRAN OTHERWISE RUSSIA IS FINISHED EVEN AS A COUNTRY .
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iran and russia.
If russia follishly stop busher plant work or does not support iran a=verses the west then russia will be doomed as well because then resurgent west ,which has ben ploting against russia too,will have ecicircled and weakned russia.and russia will have no friend to look to when it is under pressure from the west.
thertefore russia must support all the countries who have stod fagainst angloamerican evil -only by this method russia and other countries can maintain their indepdence.
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Has putin been neutered now after anglosopnsored protest agasint his rightful convincing win int eh election?
Seems so.
26th October 2012- he thinks that giving board membership to his british enemy will bring transparency ?
The same bp of gulf of mexico fame which is a by word for loies. Deceit and conspiracy incl;udign agasint russia !
BP representatives on Rosneft board will provide extra transparency – Putin
The presence of BP representatives on the board of directors of Rosneft will provide extra transparency for the Russian oil company, President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday. “If there is a representative of a major shareholder there on the board of directors, that will provide additional transparency to the activities of our largest oil company,” Interfax quoted him as saying. He made the statement at a meeting with members of the Valday international discussion club.
6th November 2012—
this lavrov in foreign ministry is an useless man who should be kicked out by Putin and Sergei Ivanov -former defense misnter in 2006- be made foreign minister or prime minister by kicking out traitor medvedev too.
arhttp://www.counterpunch.org/2013/10/14/churchills-poison-gas-stockpile/
october 14, 2013
When the Brits Came Close to Using Chemical Weapons in World War II
Churchill’s Poison Gas Stockpile
by PATRICK COCKBURN
England as pirate rogue state today and yesterday.
Just as Britain is the save heaven for all kinds of wanted top political and financial criminals.
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==60% of the UK’s GDP is financial fraud, dabbling in stolen money from the third world with help of british approved dictators in those nations.-otherwise humanitarian bombing is coming your Way!
Money laundering is the business of English race-they never graduated from the piracy days.
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The global money laundering system Britain put in place as its colonies dwindled is the core element of its new Empire. It consists of a string of tax havens around the world operating with London [ Images ] as a global hub. The system now caters to all sorts of criminals, ranging from super-rich tax evaders and corporate bigwigs hiding the proceeds of mispricing of trade to mafiosi engaged in garden variety organised crime.
The tax haven system washes an estimated $2 trillion annually into the “legitimate” world economy. According to a recent report from Washington-based Global Financial Integrity, an NGO headed by a former World Bank economist, it also drained about $6 trillion out of poor countries over the last decade. Adding up the estimates made by a number of experts indicates that the total of illicit assets in tax havens is some $30 trillion, double the GDP of the United States.
That massive pool of money generates the multi-billion dollar “hedge funds” that have made a travesty of free market mechanisms, especially commodity markets. Indians struggling with the ever increasing cost of petrol and diesel can blame it on hedge fund manipulations that have kept oil prices over $100 per barrel amidst the worst recession since the Great Depression of the 1930s. They can also blame the system for India’s pandemic of mega scams: without a convenient way to stash black money the corrupt would not dare do such massive fraud on their people.
In the defence of its imperial interests it has precipitated two World Wars and is now presiding over an empire of crime that drains the poorest countries of their hard earned wealth. During the days of Empire and now, treachery has been a staple in Britain’s international relations.”
The British are one of the most Russophobic and Slavophobic nations on the planet, and they provide safe harbor to “oligarch” crooks, terrorists, extremists, traitors and other criminals on the lam from Russia and many other countries, protecting them from justice.
The modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit instruction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch Jews (like thee criminal U.K.-based fugitive oligarch Boris Berezovsky)
were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 4 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990 -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English .race through this money protection racket . It is money protection racket in the sense that those eliete’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks. The witness, who appeared on the Rossiya channel with his face hidden and was referred to as Pyotr, accused 61-year-old Berezovsky of killing Alexander Litvinenko because the former security officer knew how the exiled tycoon had obtained political asylum in Britain in 2003. This thief boris berezosvky is a terrorist as well who calls for violet end to Putin-the president who is one of the most loved of his countrymen compared to any in the world.
As someone said “We live in a world where criminals are good guys and patriots are villains: where Berezovsky is a liberal “human rights” activist and Putin is a moral monster.” that putin who is one of the most popular leader of any in the world.
say even if Russia destroys usa then if Britain or rather england is allowed to exist then the english parasitic dog race will ,by very parasitic nature, will try to disrupt Russia or other countries’ existence. therefore instead of attacking usa or poland it is best policy of Russia to attrack and destroy to the whole of england which must be evaporated to a rubble.
That is what explains influx of foreign money to London and how London has overtaken new York in stock market. Forget about service industry -british are the most ill mannered race what service can they provide except protection racket on back of american arms? Britain is looting even usa. Through it is usa which has worked hard (through illegal invasions ) to make other countries unstable so that Britain can get money from protection of stooge elites of those countries..
the modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit instruction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch jews were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 400 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990(now kuwait soverenign fund is nto in kuwait but in londoan and under british occuptation) -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English race through this money protection racket . it is money protection racket in the sense that those elite’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks.
…Indeed…my favorite is the use of the term “regime” vs. “government” whenever the MSM reference the duly elected Syrian GOVERNMENT, and President Assad. The zusa/zeu presstitutes must think their propaganda goes down smoother than hand-crafted bourbon. Proles are not so easily fooled. The only “regime” around here is zusa.
…BTW…do you think Putin has an agreement with the zogs that allows Israel to ruin and destroy zusa, as long as they don’t mess with Rus. Strategically it makes much sense. Sad for us tho. Sigh.
Off topic perhaps you didn’t know about it that surprisingly has gotten little attention in the alternative me3dia but how come you never did a post on the revelation that from a US court case that the CIA was involved in drug trafficking with Mexico’s largest drug cartel?
http://youtu.be/7pfsemATz5U
@anonymous:do you think Putin has an agreement with the zogs that allows Israel to ruin and destroy zusa, as long as they don’t mess with Rus.
No. The relationship between Russia and Israel is a complex one, but it is most definitely not an alliance or a partnership of any kind. Rather, it is a mutual awareness that at times their interests coincide and at times they don’t. They are always all smiles towards each other, and they are powerfully enmeshed with each other because of the large number of Russian Jews (and even some non-Jews) who live in Israel. The Russian and Israeli mafia talk to each other, as do the Russian and Israeli intelligence services, as do diplomats and politicians, but this is not a true partnership and both sides know that. The key element of this relationship is this: both sides know that they have nothing to gain from a confrontation. And both sides understand each other very well, waaaaaay better than the Americans who misread both the Israelis and the Russians. But on a deep deep level, Russian politicians like Putin and the folks who back him don’t have any love for Jews or Israelis whom they totally mistrust. The Israelis know that and the feeling is very mutual. So they both key an eye on each other, and they smile. A lot. But they will never trust each other. One example to explain: both sides know fully well that Jews ruled Russia during the Eltsin years and both sides know that Putin kicked them out of power. Just like Stalin kicked out the Trotskists. Today Putin is top dog. Tomorrow, who knows? So both sides respect each other’s sophistication and power, but they know that they are forever enemies. Does that make sense?
Kind regards,
The Saker
There are 31 crash records for the Tupolev TU-154 in the aircraft accident database.
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/aircraft_detail.cgi?aircraft=Tupolev+TU-154
There are 35 crash records for the Boeing 747 in the aircraft accident database.
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/aircraft_detail.cgi?aircraft=Boeing+747
@Russia-Israel,
It makes eminent sense.
That explains also the unremitting hatred of Russia by all the “new Israels”, pride of place being enjoyed by the self-appointed “British-Israelites” and the “descendants of King David” which is the British Monarchy.
I do believe that there is a template for any journalists when they speak about Russia. And not only Russia. For example Romania is treated even worse. One little example: I receive from my pharmacist a calendar every year. Every national day of every nation in the World is duly inscribed, except Romania. I did write to the publisher. Of course, no answer and the following year the same. Wrote again. The following year the same. Romania does not exist in Australian consciousness. I was talking to people who travelled in Eastern Europe, boasting that they visited “all” those countries, but they could not name Romania among them! When I speak to people they point their finger to the temple, paranoid!
The truth is that in some plans of reorganization of Europe, Romania must be divided between the neighbouring countries(in principal Hungary). That’s why invariably westerners speak of Budapest the capital of Romania (instead of Bucharest) of of Bucharest as the capital of Bulgaria!
This is “perception management”.
WizOz
Regarding the crash – what Saker wrote here was the very first thought that came to my mind when I read the news.
The piece I read did not have the model of the plane mentioned either, so as Russia was not part of the headline this time, I assumed it must be someone else’s, probably US. And it sure was.
Underlining Russian manufacture with each crash of their old planes, planes that may have gone without proper servicing and could be way too run-down for use in the first place, is part of modifying the mind-set of the readers and vilifying Russia.
If their Western MSI’s wishful thinking ever came true and Russia ended up in the “democratic” chaos familiar from the “progressive era of Yeltsin” and Russian aviation industry is taken over by Boeing or magically revived British Aerospace, these references would stop in a snap. And the negative references would miraculously be transferred to… planes made in China.
Why do the Brits act like this? It used to be called the Plan of the Green Empire. Developed all the way back in the 17the century – its goal was to control two entities – North America and Russia. You must admit, they are persistent!
The fact that Russia has been slipping their grasp every now and then, they way it is once again under Putin, is turning them mad as march hare!
I constantly comment on anti-Russian bias in the Daily Telegraph and The Guardian.
Most people are aware of what “Western Media” has become, which is nothing but mere propaganda outlets for the regime.
Strange, seems the tables have now turned: They resemble the communist propaganda outlets back in the day when every major achievement of the west was downplayed or ridiculed…
It’s quite telling though, if you look upon it from another perspective…What this tells me is that they are scared sh**less of what they’ve become vis-a-vis Russia and China who are steadily progressing.
It’s almost entertaining to see them act in such a way.
Another good read Saker.
Thanks.
Cheers,
K
Everything will be ok if we “just get organized” (against the Russians, of course).
Enjoy:
http://www.artistdirect.com/video/the-russians-are-coming-the-russians-are-coming/53286
Along the same lines, compare how many times you read “former KGB officer” after Putin’s name with how many times you ever (never…) saw Daddy Bush described as a former CIA spook.
Anonymous poster re Brittish.
Although the Brittish public have their head up the asses re the cast system that exists in United Kindom, don’t mistake average UK person for a Banker from the City.
Your and the rest of the worlds beef is with the City of London which like the Vatican in Rome is a separate entity to the county in which they reside.
This is the source of where your words ring true. They are the ones along with sock puppet politicians who need to be dealt with for humanities sake. Remember the innocens from the criminals and persue accordingly.
Whist at it look at finance centres in general and their central control point based in Basil, Switzerland, the Bank or International Settlements. Then also look at the IMF, WTO, WHO, UN, Wall Street and any other place where globalist criminals reside..
@ marknesop and EVERYBODY
Thanks for the data. I new the figures were comparable (or better for the Russians), but its nice to see the recent ones. However, even this does not give the full story for two reasons:
a) Russian aircraft often operate in much worse conditions and with much worse maintenance than US aircraft. This is purely due to politics where some countries are too poor to have a modern functional maintenance cycle (African countries) or because they are under sanctions (Iran). Anybody familiar with “3rd World aeronautics” well tell you horror stories about Antonovs or Iliushins flying with parts held together with scotch-tape and holes in the aircraft body, but the key thing is that these aircraft do fly, day after day after day.
b) Russian aircraft also operate in zones were US aircraft simply cannot operate (as the recent purchase of Russian Mi-17 by the USA for Afghanistan proves). I had the opportunity to speak with AH-64 Apache pilots who told me how their birds could not take the humidity of Central America. And we all know what happened to US aircraft in the Iranian desert during Desert One. Who in the West knows that most Russian military aircraft – including heavies Il-76s or MiG-31s – can actually land and take-off from a simple grass strip or even field? You try that with a F-15E or a Galaxy C-5… I am not sure about the C-17 Globemaster III (does anybody know?)
So to compare the comparable one would have to give the US aircraft the same shitty maintenance most Russian aircraft get and then send them to operate in the same hell-holes Russian aircraft operate on a daily basis.
Can you imagine what the crash-comparison would look like in such comparable circumstances?
QED :-)
Cheers,
The Saker
Hello dear saker,
this also applies to other expressions like “Iranian-backed militias” when MSM meintion Hezbollah.
This is a discrediting-tactics used by all MSM and all over the board.
Grüße aus Wien
Rachid
On the subject of Russian aircraft, it brings one of my favourite stories to mind.
I have a friend that works at one of the largest (not saying much)_ military bases here in Canada. He told me that a few years ago a Russian cargo jet full of Russian air force personnel radioed in to the Canadian air base requesting to land to refuel and I guess hang out for a few days. When they landed, they were all extremely drunk and had several women with them. While staying at the base they were constantly drinking and being very obnoxious. When it came time for them to leave, they took off from the runway and their landing gear got stuck, and actually snagged a piece of fence which got caught in the landing gear. They flew for a few kilometres towards Ottawa before they realized their mistake. Apparently they radioed Ottawa airport and asked if they could land there, but the authorities freaked out because they didn’t want a Russian cargo jet with a piece of fence stuck in its landing gear flying near/landing at the capital city’s airport hahahaha. They were instructed to turn around and land at the base they had originally departed from. To repair the landing gear, they went to Canadian Tire (just a regular home hardware store) and repaired the aircraft with materials purchased there, and then they finally went on their way.
Lmao.
It would be none too difficult to list a number of examples where Russians have successfully applied intelligence to problems that the Yankee has solved only through cycling pork, or decided were impossible to solve because there was not enough perceived pork in the barrel.
In the not-enough-pork category: efficient rocket engine design. Russian heavy lift vehicles are the result of “Edison’s 99% perspiration” where the Yankee looked at the problem and wrote it off as practically impossible. Then there is vectored thrust, hypersonic drive and control, “sunburns”, “squalls”, and many other examples. An intriguing one that I am undecided about is whether the Russians have the ability to make any aeroplane invisible to radar at any range (this is quite different from stealth technologies we know about to date).
In the pork-cycling category: detection systems for airport safety. While the Yankee spent millions on creating intrusive body scanners, the Russians created a dog/jackal hybrid. Jackals, it turns out, have noses a thousand times more sensitive than a dog’s; and a dog’s, at the same area density as a person’s, would cover a family dining table. You (or in this case, the Russians) therefore have a chemical sampling machine of remarkable power.
That pork-barelling creates astonishing arrogance. When a Mig-29 came down in Japan, there was much entertained derived from its “archaic” valve-based electronics and its poor engine-service life. Smiling stopped in due course when someone pointed out that valves were much more resilient than semiconductors. As for the Mig-29 engines, the Yankee still does not appreciate that there the Russians made a conscious decision – the same decision that was always made for engines in Formula 1 racing cars until the ruling body decided that race engines must be available for post-race inspection. Similarly, looking at the stealth-iness evaluated independently by an Australian academic of the US F-35 Lightening and the Russian 5th gen fighter, I note the Russian design is not just smarter in the treatment of the residual radar sigature (c’mon, you surely don’t think airplanes can really be invisible?), but the info released into the public domain about it is smarter too (ie the propaganda).
An example which does not fit either pork category is the handling of nationals kidnapped in the middle East in the ’80s. Have you ever wondered why no Russians were held hostage? In fact the natives tried it on – just once. The Russian response is not the sort of thing one might read about in a family newspaper, but history shows it was, in the cultural context, totally effective.
Many of these differences are in technical areas of engineering, thus a challenge to explain simply on a public website. More of a nuisance would be the trolling that would be inevitable, given the widespread incomprehension that (a) pork barreling does not necessarily create better solutions, and/or (b) there is no such thing as “manifest destiny” (or more accurately I suppose “manifest destiny to pillage, plunder, rape and cause general mayhem”).
Vineyard Saker said “..not sure about the C-17 Globemaster III”
It can theoretically, but it is generally discouraged because of possible damage (ingestion) to the four jet engines.
Having said that, I don’t want to foster a pissing contest between US and Russian aircraft.
Anecdotically, I remember my colleagues’ reaction to an accident involving an Airbus passenger jet in the US, along the lines of “oh, of course, an Airbus…”.
But back to the BBC, this is about more or less subtle indoctrination tactics via the MSM, heavily pushed by news agencies upstream BTW (eg reuters).
Cheers, great work
-E
SG: I am sure that this story is true. Russian military planes can be a “fun” place
@Thor Quinn-Darke: I believe that you are referring to Viktor Belenko’s MiG-25 and not to a MiG-29.
@E:Having said that, I don’t want to foster a pissing contest between US and Russian aircraft.
Oh no, of course not. In fact, both countries have built some fantastic aircraft and others which are quite less than fantastic. My point that rather that purely in terms of aircraft reliability “Russian-built” means “super-sturdy” and not, like the BBC wants it to be, crash prone.
It can theoretically, but it is generally discouraged because of possible damage (ingestion) to the four jet engines.
Understood, but building engines with either a protective mesh or which take their air topside to protect them from ingestion of runway debris is the solution chosen (amongst other, such as special chassis/wheel designs) by Russian constructors to make it possible to operate from very bad airstrips. I was told that before an F-22 takes off, a team of assistants must stand in line and then walk down the entire runway to manually remove and small object to avoid foreign object damage (FOD). I was told that when USAF aircraft landed in Kubinka or Zhukovskii for some exchange the crews were horrified at the conditions of the tarmac and runways and that they were afraid to take-off. Please keep in mind that both Kubinka and Zhukovskii are high-end “VIP” kind of air bases and that in some God forsaken corner of Siberia or Central Asia conditions might be infinitely worse.
“oh, of course, an Airbus…”
Dunno about Airbuses, there are bad rumors of French cover-ups of some nasty accidents, but the Rafale has to be one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built. I love its shape, it is just beautiful from any angle. I think that the French have built some absolutely fantastic aircraft :-)
Cheers to all,
The Saker
…the crews were horrified at the conditions of the tarmac and runways and that they were afraid to take-off
Necessity is the mother of invention. Ananke, the greek goddess (and Zeus’ higher up). Brains not pork. Ein voller Bauch studiert nicht gerne.
Rafale…just beautiful from any angle
Indeed, it follows Marcel Dassault’s teaching: to paraphrase, “if an aircraft is to fly well, it has to be beautiful”.
Cheers,
-E
Dear Saker, All from memory, the Lockerbie 747 crash was attributed to a number of groups depending on the current political needs before eventually being blamed on Libya. The person fingered was quite likely innocent but that is another story.
British investigators concluded that a bomb smaller than a cigarette pack brought down the plane. Interesting, the plane broke apart behind a bulkhead just behind the cockpit. Another 747, taking off from Hawaii, suffered a massive structural failure originating apparently from the same bulkhead area. Unfortunately several people were killed but the plane managed to return safely. Both planes were fully loaded and climbing through a strong cross wind at the time of failure. Under slightly different circumstances the Hawaii plane could have suffered a catastrophic failure and crashed in a manner just like the Lockerbie crash. Around this time, a massive inspection of the structural integrity of 747 was ordered.
Think about it. If a crash of the 747 can be blamed on a terrorist bomb, why not? It protects a symbol of Americana, avoids huge financial losses, and perpetuates the war or terror or whatever they called it then. I also recall an Air Inida 747 that was lost and ASSUMED to have brought down by a bomb. There is more supporting evidence that I can dig up but I hope that this opens the discussion about a different aspect of politicizing air crashes.
As always, thanks for the great work.
It’s very true Saker ! Actually, this rule of manipulation by the self-styled “mainstream” media (Anglo-US-sionist power clique actually) can be generalised. It looks like every news item is supervised by censors who simply add or delete a few words here and there, concetrating in the titles and the beginning and end of the article. Just a few words, but of course big impact !
The psychological manipulation of the propaganda is a lot more sophisticated now. Besides smearing designated “enemies”, which Saker pointed out, the media pretty much smear all “foreigners” in order to make them seem inferior and “other” to a country’s public. The point is to have audience believing they are human and all rest are varying degrees of less than human. This helps with getting said public compliant to aggression against all those less than humans when the time comes – and that time eventually does come.
Even “allies” of the fascists, who need to be given some human resemblance, are portrayed more as a loyal pet, instead of as an equal. Except for Israelis, of course, they are usually depicted as superior, and at worst, as equals.
With regard to Russian equipment being “inferior” to western equivalents, well… here’s a few entertaining videos:
Can Your Truck do This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvytcHqJBcM&feature=related
Rather leery of the local environmental impact, though.
Russian trucks at their best.Российские грузовики в лучшем виде. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqI8QsAZAYQ&feature=fvwrel
And aircraft:
Skilled pilot going crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGnyWgXnZ6g
Su-33 performing “Gurza Podguzova” video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCwswOLN8ss&feature=related
Neither of those maneuvers can be done in the USN, btw.
вот так
Saker, I may well have got the Mig confused. My point in comparing the engine to Formula 1 racing cars was that they don’t need to be “super sturdy” per se (the sturdier, the more expensive), but only sturdy enough – where the “enough” has been arrived at by analysis of combat situations. That is also an area where Russian thinking is different from (and IMHO smarter) then American. As the saying goes, it’s not what you’ve got, but how you use it.
On the happier subject of aesthetics, I personally find the Tu-160 very beautiful to look at – and the Sukhoi T-50 simply sublime.
@Thor Quinn-Darke:I personally find the Tu-160 very beautiful to look at – and the Sukhoi T-50 simply sublime.
Agreed. Though IMHO the basic SU-27 is probably the most elegant aircraft I have ever seen. I love how its “head” projects out of the body of the aircraft, and its slightly curved. Just beautiful. In a different style, I like the Il-76 transporter too, especially when seen from the front. The way its high-set wings bend down just gives it an amazing and unique look.
But Russians also had really ugly aircraft, like the MiG-23, the Yak-38 or the Tu-16.
Cheers!
The Saker
Some interesting facts and observations on the history of Anglo Russian bashing in this excellent article in mixed French and English.
http://www.dedefensa.org/article-william_s_lind_soutient_poutine_12_02_2014.html
Some interesting facts and observations on the history of Anglo Russian bashing in this excellent article in mixed French and English.
http://www.dedefensa.org/article-william_s_lind_soutient_poutine_12_02_2014.html
Some of these aircrafts you’re talking about might be needed very soon:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russias-save-ukraine-memorandum-prevent-the-ukraine-from-going-fascist/5368608
Saker:
“But Russians also had really ugly aircraft, like the MiG-23, the Yak-38 or the Tu-16.”
Both the MiG-23 and Yak-23 look fine to me, and the Tu-16, not so good, but not ugly, either. Some of their early jets, such as the MiG-9 or Yak-23, I would consider ugly.
In my opinion, most American military aircraft fall under that latter category and are aesthetic equals of those early Soviet fighters. Or worse. :)
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@вот так: most American military aircraft fall under that latter category and are aesthetic equals of those early Soviet fighters. Or worse. :)
Oh that’s unfair, at least in my subjective opinion. I love the shape of the B-747, F-16, A-10 (yes, I actually like that shape!), C-17, B-1, YF-23, Gulfstream G650. Some are, I have to admit, terrible (F-4, F-14, F-18, F-35, EA-6B).
Of course, this is all very subjective :-)
Cheers,
The Saker
Under “Russian invasion” here´s an impressive landing of Mighty Vlad and a Hugh entourage at Schipol Holland 08-04-2013. The two Presidential Il-96, plus two Tupolev´s and Gasprom´s Dassault´s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfmzdWVh7g
And this favourite, an Aeroflot Il-96 landing in Greece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPHnvexXrI
Think this is the usual brainwashing trick. Western media use it all the time with every single group they (or rather, their masters) do not like. If you check carefully, you’ll find plenty of details on crimes “maybe” committed by people of Muslim origin; every single time something doesn’t work, media points out it’s Chinese made; and so on. Sort of like Italy during WW2; the Propaganda Ministry actually had laws burying crimes committed by Italians and Germans and magnifying those committed by English, French, American or Russians. So, an Italian shooting his wife would be reported as “woman found dead”, an English doing the same as “English murderer brutally kills innocent woman”.
Hey, did I mistakenly land in an Aviation forum blog ;);)
seriously, thanks for all the informative and interesting content , Greetings from Sweden
http://www.kara-murza.ru/books/evr_centr/evr_centr6.htm#hdr_13
Yep, Su-30mki without the military equipment, with simple meteo-radar and additional, integrated fuel tanks is my dream..
@marknesop,
There’s an interesting article about the TU-154 on an airliner modelling web site in which the author likens the Boeing 727 to a Fiat Seicento in comparison to the Tupolev’s Ferrari …
http://www.airlinercafe.com/page.php?id=121
… cool!
A great article:
http://www.thenation.com/article/178344/distorting-russia#
Please have a read.
Cheers,
K
Greetings, Saker.
Off topic, but nevertheless:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/14/russia-attack-paul-craig-roberts/
Would you mind sharing your thoughts about the piece, and what’s your opinion of the author?
Thanks,
BOPOH.
@K:
@ВОРОН:
http://www.thenation.com/article/178344/distorting-russia#
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/14/russia-attack-paul-craig-roberts
Paul Craig Roberts and Stephen F. Cohen are two very interesting personalities whose views of Russia are dramatically different from the views of the typical US establishment. I remember listening to Cohen during the Cold War and already at that time he was a very shrewed analyst with a lot of good insights (at a time when the vast majority of his colleagues were mostly ideological). Roberts is more of a mystery to me. I cannot understand how a man so close to Reagan could have ended up with the views that Roberts has now. Though, come to think of it, my view also changed a full 180 degrees since my early years….
Anyway, two very good read, for which I thank you both and which I recommend to all.
Cheers,
The Saker
Saker,
On Topic:
Aside from a couple of flights in the early ’90s in China, my experience of Russian/Soviet aircraft is limited to the vicarious. In another life, I worked with a Ukrainian Engineer who’s previous life included a stint at Antonov, and who taught me to respect Russian aeronautical engineering via many YouTube videos.
Later, I saw a big Antonov sitting on the tarmac at an airport in Inner Mongolia and had a sudden, shocking “Aha” moment. The 737 I had just arrived on looked like a child’s toy beside it, almost able to fit under one wing of the mighty Antonov. Not even the Airbus 380 impresses after seeing that monster.
Off topic:
Per yr suggestion, I’m posting this link of Dieudonne on Iranian TV. It’s been dubbed into English, making it accessible to a wider audience…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3pvWdlOGK0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjNKMHqfoVSuJF739U66_7g
IMHO, it’s worth the candle, so I hope this tail-end posting catches a few of your readers.
Erebus
@Erebus: thanks a lot for the link to the Dieudonne video – this is very good stuff.
And, please, don’t worry about being off-topic, as I always say “there is no off-topic on this blog except spam” (which is the only reason why I have to moderate comments – you would not believe the amount of stupid spam I get every day; when I first began that blog I did not moderate anything, and sure enough the spammers attacked…).
As for the Russian aircraft, yes, they are impressive from close up. I remember the day I got to 1) sit inside a MiG-29 cockpit (on the ground, not flying, alas) and 2) climb inside a Il-76 transporter. It was awesome to see the raw “nasty” power both of these aircraft literally “radiated”.
Your traveled to Inner Mongolia?! Wow! That must have been most interesting. I envy you.
Cheers and thanks for everything!!
The Saker
This brought a smile:
Foreign media should not mix up sports with politics – Putin
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_15/Foreign-media-should-not-mix-up-sports-with-politics-Putin-1928/
“One of the journalists noticed that before the Olympics Russia experienced “some kind of liberalization process”, referring to the release of the former head of Yukos oil company, Khodorkovsky, as well as the “Bolotanaya case prisoners”.
“Is there any hope? What shall be the end of this story?” he asked.
“There is only my hope that you will never mix up sports with politics. Can I hope for it? I think I can,” Putin answered.”
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Erebus
Thanks for translating that interview with Dieudonne. Very enlightening about the man and his beliefs.
I can understand why Israel’s minions across the board work overtime to smear him. He’s the sort of critic they fear the most. For example, this deep cover zionazi:
Funny Coincidence?
http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2014/02/funny-coincidence.html
That Jewish blogger is one of supposed leftwing opposers of Israel and zionism, but like most of Israel’s deep agents (sayanim), he expends more effort smearing those critical of zionism, than he does on his “anti-zionism”. This is a very common thread throughout the Jewish “left”, and Jewish “anti-zionists” in general. The duplicity is ubiquitous.
I posted this sayanim’s smear to use as an example of how these fake anti-zionists operate. The dead give-away with these sayanim is they never debate honestly, they never take on the actual views of their victims. Instead, they insult, smear, invent things, in short, they attack any cowardly way they can, and do everything they can to try to block the victim from having their real views from being heard (as opposed to the zionazi invented views). IE: they act purely Israeli. These sods are no more left than Netanyahu.
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Mr Like So,
Your thanks are misplaced as I didn’t translate a word of it. I assume it was done by the Iranians, and I can only hope that the translation is a faithful representation of Dieudonne’s original interview.
Be that as it may, I agree that his words in English leave no doubt why he’s a target and I, for one, now appreciate better the furor surrounding him.
Erebus