In many of my past articles I have tried to show that the terrorists which have committed the recent atrocities in the USA, Europe and elsewhere were not really motivated by Islamic values at all and that the rulers of the AngloZionist Empire are trying to create a “clash of civilizations” narrative in which the western world and the Islamic world are on a collision course. They way they do that is simple: they identify psychologically weak individuals, the types that religious sects always prey on, and they then provide them with a thin layer of pseudo-Islam to rationalize their alienation and give them an ideological pretext to strike out and murder members of the society they hate so much. My evidence is simple: if you look at what we find out about the perpetrators you will see that they are typically sexually promiscuous, often homosexuals, that they drink, use prostitutes and engage in many types of activities which are categorically forbidden in Islam. Furthermore, in most cases the perpetrators do not have even an intermediate level Islamic education and their newly-found “Islamism” is either gathered on the social media or the result of maybe one trip to a Muslim country. Simply put these so-called “Islamic terrorists” are not so much Muslims, as they are your common, garden variety type of maladapted losers, frustrated unhappy types with a weak psyche and a desire for revenge.
Each time I wrote this I was accused of “whitewashing Islam” or of denying the obvious: that Islam is aggressive and a threat to the western world. The first accusation is a rather crude ad hominem used to avoid discussing the issue and reduce it all to my putative sympathies for Islam. And since ad hominems cannot be logically challenged, I will focus instead on the second accusation: that Islam is a threat to the western world.
Let’s begin with some basics first. “Islam” is an extremely diverse religion which over the centuries has been adopted in countries ranging from Morocco to Indonesia. To speak of “Islam” without adding some kind of narrowing qualifier to that word is simply nonsensical. Just as it would be ridiculously unfair to lump Orthodox Christians with the Papist Crusaders (if only because the former were also victims of the latter), it is ridiculously unfair to lump the Takfiri crazies of Daesh or al-Qaeda with, say, the Shia (if only because in this case the latter were victims of the fomer).
Furthermore, the kind of militant Islam which we are dealing with today is a very unique and distinct variant of Islam. Since I am not a Muslim myself I may well be wrong in my conclusions (Muslim readers: please correct me if needed!), but as far as I can tell the kind of militant Islam which inspires al-Qaeda, Daesh and the rest of the Takfiri crazies has its roots in the ideology of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and Muhammad bin Saud who together laid the foundation of the Saudi state. And while this ideology, Wahabism, does borrow elements from the teachings of the 14th century scholar Ibn Taymiyyah, it was, at least initially, limited to the various tribes living on the Arabian Peninsula and had very little impact on the rest of the Muslim world. In other words, Wahabism was a local phenomenon limited to Arabian Peninsula at least until the Americans decided to unleash it against the Soviets in Afghanistan (more about that later).
The second type of Islam which has inspired various terrorist organizations in northern Africa and the Middle-East is based on the ideas of Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian author whose ideas have had a major impact on the Muslim Brotherhood which nowadays plays an important role in many countries such as Egypt, Turkey and many others. Some have tried to link what I would call “Qutbism”to the 9th century Kharijites, but this seems far fetched to me: Qutbism is a very modern ideology developed in reaction to the modern, secular, state.
There are some major differences between Wahabism and Qutbism (such as the former being profoundly reactionary and the latter much more progressive), but the key feature they have in common is that they are both profoundly revolutionary. This is one of the things which is most often overlooked: the revolutionary zeal of Wahabism and Qutbism is primarily directed at existing Muslim countries and societies, not at the rest of the world.
I would argue that just like the Ebola virus which has existed for a long time in the dark bat caves of Kenya, the Wahabi virus remind confined to the deserts of the KSA until some particularly demented minds in the USA (led by Zbigniew Brzezinski, a bona fide maniac) decided to unleash the Wahabi virus against the Soviets in Afghanistan.
What the CIA did was this: it 1) federated various extremist Muslims groups into one movement 2) it used Saudi money and propaganda to organize them and 3) it gave them weapons. Lots of weapons.
[Sidebar: The official narrative is that the plan worked and that the CIA booted out the Soviets from Afghanistan. Personally, I don’t buy this at all. Not only were Reagan’s “freedom fighters” unable to beat the Soviet army, it took them four long years to finally oust Mohammad Najibullah (1992) even though the Soviets withdrawal (1988) had left him completely alone. As for the Taliban, they only seized Kabul in 1996. No, what forced Gorbachev to order a withdrawal of the Soviet forces in Afghanistan was the total chaos inside the Soviet Union, not the military prowess of the Afghans. But since the CIA wanted to credit for “winning”, this is how the West decided to remember that event]
What is certain, however, is that the war in Afghanistan really did federate, for the first time, many varieties of Muslim extremists who convinced themselves that they had defeated the “Russian bear” and who then decided to take on both the established regimes of the Muslim world (whether Baathist or Shia) and the western infidels. The problem, however, was the the western infidels were far away and had plenty of military power at their disposal to deal with the Takfiris. So the Takfiris decided to fight only the weak:
1) The Russians in Chechnia during the Eltsin years (with the covert support of the Anglo-Zionists and most of the Muslim world)
2) The Serbs in Bosnia (with the full military support of NATO and the entire Muslim world)
Notice that when Putin came to power the Wahabis were defeated in Chechnia and that in Bosnia (and later Kosovo) the Wahabis were unable to defeat the Serbs and had to rely on the massive military intervention by NATO. In fact, it soon became apparent that the Takfiris could only achieve successes when backed by direct US/NATO power (Libya, Syria). The closest thing to a military success these Takfiris ever had was in Iraq where they could capitalize on the sectarian conflict resulting from the ousting of Saddam Hussein. As for Syria, Daesh has had the full support of the USA, the EU, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and all their proxies.
Why is all this important?
For two reasons: first, we have to realize that the threat we are dealing with is not “Islam” per se, but only a small subsection of the Islamic world. Second, this subsection primarily preys on the rest of the Islamic world, especially when it is already weakened by western military intervention.
Understanding a threat does not mean minimizing it. The Wahabi threat is real and it is growing with each passing year because the West still wants to use it against those states who refuse to be subjugated by the AngloZionist Empire. Even worse, the rulers of the Empire are now using the Wahabi crazies to create a crisis in their own homelands which they see as a means to preserve the current political order. In other words, the real problem are not the Wahabis, but the leaders of the AngloZionist Empire who are using these Wahabis inside and outside the Empire. What makes that threat even more dangerous is that Wahabism is now eroding traditional Islam in many parts of the world. In fact, most Muslim countries are now facing a revolutionary Wahabi threat, courtesy of the Saudis, of course, but also of their AngloZionist patrons who take absolutely no effective action to combat terrorism, who only pay lip-service to the need to not condemn all of Islam, but whose propaganda machine constantly hammers in the message that Islam, all of it, is a threat to the western world and democracy.
By refusing to discriminate between the Takfiris and the rest of the Muslim world, the Empire is constantly provoking the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide even though the vast majority of these Muslims are not only not liked to any form of Wahabism, but they are also the main victim of Wahabi atrocities and terrorist attacks. The various forms of traditional Islam worldwide are now under a double threat: on one hand from the Wahabi crazies and their Saudi patrons and, on the other, from the cultural/ideological war the West is now waging against Islam as a religion and as a civilizational model.
The distressing thing is that Wahabism can only be defeated by exactly the opposite approach: a full-spectrum state effort to eradicate Takfiri terrorists and a strong effort to foster, and even protect, the non-Wahabi forms of traditional Islam. This is exactly what Putin and Kadyrov did in Chechnia and this is what Assad is now trying to do in Syria. But this strategy implies a fundamental shift in thinking, at least for the Wests, as it is centered on two things which the West is categorically refusing to do:
1) To kill as many Takfiri terrorists as possible (rather than try to use them against perceived enemies)
2) To accept that traditional Islam is the single most important defense against the Takfirism
The war in Chechnia has shown that Russians can kill a lot of Wahabis. But only Muslims can kill the Wahabi ideology.
None of the above requires any endorsement of, or sympathy for, Islam. I submit that straightforward pragmatic logic clearly indicates that the worst possible way to struggle against Wahabism is to proclaim that Islam as a whole is the problem. In reality, the deadly Wahabi ‘virus’ has infected the ‘body’ of Islam and is now growing inside it. If this process continues, the traditional Islamic ‘body’ will simply die and be replaced by a Wahabi pandemic which will be much, much more dangerous for the entire planet. Because, make no mistake here, Wahabism is a mortal threat to everybody, Muslim or not, and it is a force which cannot be negotiated with. When Hezbollah’s Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, refers to the Wahabi crazies as “shaitans” (demons) he quite literally correct. When the “moderate” terrorists execute 12 year old children and use chemical weapons against civilians it becomes quite literally impossible to imagine what the “hardliners” could be capable of.
The West stands at a crossroads: it can either wage a “clash of civilizations” kind of war against the entire Muslim world and lose that war, or it can finally come to its senses and realize that the only thing standing between it and the Takfiris is the traditional Islamic world. Either way, Russia will fare much better, not only because her security services and special forces now have a total of 35+ years worth of experience dealing with the Takfiri crazies, but also because she can count on her Muslim population to be at the forefront of the defense of the Russian state and of true Islam. In contrast, the AngloZionist West has managed to alienate most Muslims and can only count on its Israeli patrons for help (with friends like these who needs enemies anyway?).
I suppose that the hardcore Islam haters will call me or sorts of names and accuse me, once again, of being a Muslim propagandist. Fine. To them I can only say “enjoy your losing war against an entire religion!”. To those still capable of thinking straight I suggest the obvious: the bull in a corrida dies because he wastes his strength and energy trying to fight a piece of red cloth instead of goring the torero holding it.
You are the bull. The red cloth is the AngloZionist’s depiction of Islam. The matador is the AngloZionist Empire. Your move.
The Saker
So profoundly demented and depraved – according to Saker’s latest evil rant, terrorists are homosexuals.
May i suggest a new pair of glasses and a good nights sleep, my good fellow. Saker DID NOT suggest your spurios claim…
I think there are many categories of fallacies your non-sequitur comment falls under: reductio ad absurdum. ad hominem, straw man -how many else?
While my views on sexual orientation are likely broader than the Saker’s the subject actually isn’t relevant here beyond assigning a typical profile to ‘psychologically weak’ individuals preyed upon and cultivated by extremist religions. Homosexuals have always been preyed upon throughout history.
Read the article again.
It would seem so.
https://theintercept.com/2015/05/18/exploitation-social-issues-generate-support-militarism-imperialism/
Privilege for fealty.
Congratulations! You are now qualified to become a Western Journalist.
Well, I dont know what you mean by that, but I dont fully agree with this article, certainly there are elements that wants a “clash of civilization” between islam and Europe.
But that in itself does not mean islam is not athreat to Europe, if you just look at the birth rates you’ll see that islam pose an existential threat to all the peoples of Europe.. You have for example the average age of a European country being 45+ and the average age of the muslim population in that country by 9, already in many European countries muslims and other non-Europeans are the majority of the young… This is not some “far-fetched” threat, this is an absolute existential threat, stretching from Russia to French, to UK to USA. Altough in USA it is hispanics not arab muslims that poses a demograpic threat.
Even if muslims themselves were just all kind and cuddly, their demographic threat would change Europe forever and leave the native population marganlised minority, no longer in control of their own countries and futures.
So yes, islam poses a threat to Europe.. However, while islam poses a threat to Europe, it poses a threat to Europe in the same sense that a bullet flying towards a mans face poses a threat.. Of course the bullet is lethal, but the real threat is who fired it. Or in the European case, who supports the massimmigration of muslims and non-Europeans? These is the real threat, behind the muslim threat.
And for that you have a wide array of forces, you have the cultural marxist, racist anti-white maniacs, that just wants as many people born with white skin raped, murdered and abused as possible until they day all whites are exterminated, you have the international oligarchy, that wants to destroy all nationality, all identity and turn the world into slave cattle for their products, you have the supremacist groups, various religious and ethnic groups who seek world domination or at the very least, maximal control to use the world for their own religious and ethnic interests, all these of course are anti-white. And you have all in between, local oligarchs,banks, bussiness, corrupt officals.
Who unleashed Islam extremism to come from Saudi Arabia/Egypt/Afghanistan to Iraq and Syria and now to Europe? It was during the invasion of Iraq, Syria and Libya which was non existent before. They were contained where they were before. I think it is important to take responsibilities for mistakes or deliberate actions
Hardly… you forget how the US/UK destroyed Pakistan by putting General Zia ul-Haq in charge of Fundamentalist Islamist forces inside Pakistan and Afghanistan in hope of speeding Islamic terrorism into the soft underbelly of the USSR.
Since 1950s US/UK had sponsored Muslim brotherhood – building them a mosque in Munich (name of a book – see Amazon) to destabilise the Soviet Union. Turkey was running operations in Central Asia. the Uighurs in China are used by Western sponsors to destabilise China. Israel even created Hamas to destabilise the PLO. These groups have long been pawns on the chessboard
after elaborating some demographics you (anonymous) state:
“So yes, islam poses a threat to Europe”.
You should spiral deeper… why are muslim nations having so many children?
One reason is being poor, but living in countries full of resources, but not having the cake. When they try to stand up against corruption and crony capitalism you can be sure that a proxy war emerges, fueled by the usual suspects.
Being poor brings a lot of problems: no good schools, no good health and birth management etc.
Watch the richer nations with good healthcare and schools: the woman instantly have less children, go to work (cause they can read and study and dont have to have a baby with 14… therefore also watch out the birthrate in mostly hindu India due to poorness!), have a baby maybe later, but not 7.
So my conclusion: the problem lies deeper, its in the consciousness.
We are growing to a global village and not at all ready having all the laws for fairness, freedom, enviromental rights for future generations etc, we just havent got the brain yet for the tasks; but this will come with evolution (like internet, boosting the global connecting thoughts), unless we dont destroy the planet………….
Thesaker shares views with Hillary it seems.
“Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) 19 november 2015
And also with Putin,and the Russian government as well. If Hitler and Stalin in 1944 both looked up at the sky and said it looked blue. Would you accuse Stalin of some sinister “sharing views with Hitler”.
That’s what she says while for at least the past 20 years she has promoted and supported ‘humanitarian’ bombing of vast swathes of the Islamic world, in the name of peace.
Anyone who has had the misfortune to tangle with a psychopath/sociopath and survive does so because they learn to disregard what is said and to look instead to the actions.
Talk is cheap and there is nothing cheaper than political talk.
Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism… well I suppose Hilary is in the best position to know where the real roots of today’s terrorism lie.
Re “So profoundly demented and depraved – according to Saker’s latest evil rant, terrorists are homosexuals.”
Huh?
I just read teh Saker’s piece. There is no mention of homosexuals (did I miss something?) nor of any subject that seems to be related to sexual orientation.
The Saker’s conclusions make a lot of sense. It is nutty to demonize a whole religion, especially one of the world’s “three great religions.” I have always been very drawn to many of the central tenets of Islam, which is a very egalitarian religion and truly an international religion. I am sure that is why it has appealed to so many people in so many different cultures and countries. And why it appealed to black Americans, after centuries of oppression in this county in which they were a vilified caste. It is really a shame that the Wahabs seem to control Mecca and have made a hash of it.
Katherine
I read the German-speaking press, and I note that Christian religious symbols are being attacked.
A cross on a mountain top is axed down in Bavaria ; http://www.merkur.de/lokales/bad-toelz/lenggries-ort28977/gipfelkreuz-prinzkopf-laerchkogel-umgehackt-6646697.html
A small cross by the roadside marks the spot of a fatal road accident in Bockhorn, Germany. Since the establishment of a centre for refugees, the cross os torn out of the ground, and pissed upon:
http://www.merkur.de/lokales/erding/gedenkkreuz-wird-wurfobjekt-6279180.html
On some mountain-tops you have a book, where people can write down their feelings upon seeing the beautiful scenery. In the book on top of the Austrian Loripenzkugel one finds written down:
“Europe is ours. Long live our religion. Allahu akhbar. Long live islam and sharia. We will behead you all. Up with IS, down with unbelievers.”
http://kurier.at/chronik/niederoesterreich/werden-euch-alle-koepfen-aerger-um-gipfelbuch-eintrag/212.193.902
Great article..vey clear. Though i do find you slightly understate the vital historical role played by Rothscies english lords and empire builders from 1850s in meddling with the Saud families. Chinese opium wars, indian raj genocides, sudan with gordon…His majestys empire builders were most preoccupied. Suez canal and oil for those jolly dreadnought battleships were the major impetus to fully endors the medina-mecca-Saud ‘axis of evil’…We English, do it proper what!! Those bankers were most pleased…
Yes, the bankers have had undue influence throughout the ages. They encourage debt burdened and therefor compliant rulers / governments, throughout history, to adopt policy initiatives, both internal and external, that amount to little more than profit taking exercises.
There are often times though, when the rulers / governments and the bankers are both in agreement with the profit taking because its a win / win situation for both of them. It does not matter if the profit comes from internal sources(their own people), or external sources (other people), its just profit. But it is easier when the profits come from external sources (other people), and then their own people can join in on the action also, so to speak.
But when the sources of external profit (other people) run out, their own people become a problem for the bankers and rulers / governments. Now there are gripes from the bottom of the pyramid scheme, noises about fairness and equality that might have the bankers and rulers (interchangeable), at the top of the pyramid, in the crosshairs. Noises that threaten the foundation of the pyramid. Therefor divisions and distractions need to be manufactured to keep the noise at the bottom of the pyramid down. Throw in lots of false flag initiatives to further enhance those divisions and distractions. Throw in lots more policing and government intrusion to keep the base of the pyramid stable. Muslims are now the preferred choice of division and distraction for the Western world’s people’s at the bottom of the pyramid. (and Russians or Chinese also, but the Muslims are the most easily malleable).
Its another facet of the divide and rule strategy, albeit applied internally to the people’s of Western countries. The Saker is correct, all these manufactured divisions are just red cloth distractions, better to concentrate on the matadors at the top of the pyramid, those interchangeable bankers / rulers.
All true.
Sometimes they don’t even need to play on division – just rely on the “patriotism” and “religious” aspects of the nation and you can the poor suckers can be robbed blind.
Case in point – Russia.
Going back to what I wrote previously, the only way to stabilize the base of the pyramid, to keep the noises of the people down, is by manufacturing divisions and distractions. That is, by manufacturing chaos.
Hence Muslims were invited into Europe where their rapes and pillaging are encouraged, protected and kept out of the limelight via police protection. The European people’s can’t thus rise up against their rulers / bankers because their mind’s are so occupied by the chaos created by the Muslims, the chaos created by their own Government. What little brain cells they have left is further zombified by Russia’s imminent invasion of the Baltics and Poland hoax and all the lesbian and gay nonsense. They don’t know if they are Arthur or Martha, so confused they are. For the bankers / rulers of the Western world, Chaos is therefor the new stability.
While that holds true on the domestic front, its even more relevant abroad. The more chaos in the Middle East, Africa, South America, etc, the more stable the West looks, the more what funds there are available in the Middle East, Africa, South America, etc will flow to the bankers / rulers of the West for ‘safe keeping’ and ‘disappearing’. The more the chaos abroad, the more opportunities are available for external profits, land grabbing, etc.
So for Western countries, chaos is the new stability, on both their domestic front and on their foreign fronts. That is why ISIS was created. Islam is just a religion that is being used, if it didn’t exist, some other religion or some other entity would have been conscripted, maybe.
And yes, any aspect of human nature, including patriotism and religion can be used to achieve nefarious goals, including chaos. However Russia’s goals do not include robbing.
Only if you consider robbing from the general population is not robbing. Income disparity in Russia is greater than most nations on earth.
Grrr, 2 words, gini coefficient. Wikipedia it, Russia has never featured anywhere on the gini coefficient ever.
Grrr, it has e.g. /a-tale-of-two-world-orders-unz-review-column/comment-page-1/#comment-122289
Not to mention this /lets-lay-down-our-arms-my-fellow-oppositionist-letter-from-a-bona-fide-putin-hater/comment-page-1/#comment-168224 and the actual statistics from the Russian Federaton Federal State Statistic service site itself:
http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b14_12/IssWWW.exe/stg/d01/07-01.htm
Itam of particular relevance being “Coefficient of funds (coefficient differentiation of income), in times”
Ok, change of tactic required. I’m a South African in South Africa. Since South Africa has had the dubious honour of having had the highest gini-coefficient ever, I can safely say that Russia does not feature on the gini-coefficient at all.
Its all down to the theory of relativity (the non-scientific one).
Every place on this planet has its income inequalities, its normal. Russia has income inequalities also. But Russia has something no-one else on this planet has, namely empty land, lots of it. The base of the pyramid is therefor immense. The guys at the bottom are not really in the clutches of the monkeys at the top, because they can always fall back to the original stock market. Russia is therefor virtually the only country on the planet which can withstand a high degree of external shocks.
Let me explain why. The original stock market is based on land and livestock, and crop cultivation. Each cow you have can produce a calf a year, that’s nearly a 100% return on investment. Each ewe should produce 2 lambs a year, that’s nearly a 200% return on investment. Same with the goats’, lets not mention the pigs and the chickens. Where can an ordinary guy get 100-200% returns on the New York stock exchange per annum, regularly and with low risk?
So the people in Russia at the bottom of the pyramid shouldn’t have it too bad, with some elbow grease and the free land offers they can survive and profit. With the right technology, and green houses galore, Russia might in fact be able to produce all the world’s food requirements. That’s a lot of export potential.
If you have a regular steady job, plus a farm on the side, you’re rolling in the $$$ and the manure. Just make sure you bank with the agricultural co-operative run by your stingy grandmother, and not with the banks run by those holding passports from a certain middle eastern country, and place limits on land ownership by commercial pty ltd entities, and things should be fine. There seems to be red tape problems regarding everything in Russia but the German farmers there seem to have survived those.
Also, your farmers generally have more robust children, know their heavy machinery, their firearms and their hammers and sickles, so they make the best soldiers and citizens. Farmers love their land, their cows and their chickens, not like those monkeys at the top of the pyramid, who only love their money. And since money can move, so do those at the top of the pyramid. They will merrily skip to the top of another pyramid in another country at the drop of a hat. In fact, they don’t even like land or countries, they only like companies.
Great explanation but watch out, such praising of Russia what is driving the West towards Russia. Russia also has to be careful its own Russian Zionists and fifth column, they could destroy it from inside. Another nation which inform want to mention on the brink of civil war and disintegration because of the enemies within serving foreign forces
Yes, but you need yet another change of tactic.
The pillage of the USSR at it’s demise was staggering (mostly by the now Russian Oligarchs) and while average income has increased since then the disparity stats (for Russia) exemplify that this pillage has only increased since.
So, the goal of some Russians is the same as the goal of some people in “the West” i.e. their goal is to “include robbing” massive populations (national & global) blind.
Spot the difference? there is none – Russia has exactly the same type of structure as “the West” aka predatory Capitalism.
In that you are correct, Russia does indeed now have exactly the same predatory capitalism pyramid structure as the countries in the West, so yes, the goal of some Russians is to rob the population blind.
Since Russia’s pyramid differs from the Western pyramids’ due to the fact that it is suffused with religion, Russia should have the political will to actively take steps to blunten the most inhuman capitalistic tendencies.
What you don’t want is the dynastic god ordained nobility of the past being replaced with the super rich dynastic families of the present. Russia took care of its nobility of the past, it therefor has the ability to deal with the super rich of the present.
Unfortunately (it’s the same everywhere), Russia’s political will is determined by those who are implementing the capitalistic rape of the masses – the pyramid there has zero difference to elsewhere.
What do you consider the least inhuman of the capitalistic tendencies to be?
Why do you you think Russia’s religious suffusion may cause the implementation of those when we already have evidence that this religiously suffused country has increasing wealth disparity (implemented by those Russians at the top of the pyramid)?
Could it be they care about themselves (and their capitalist cronies) more than they care about: “do unto others as you would have done onto yourself”?
Make no mistake, Russia’s capitalists are just as bad as any other capitalist.
Yes, many Russians (along with the help of a few others) did take care of its nobility in the past (bravo), and many Russians there now do have the ability to deal with the super rich of the present..but the capitalist system is the source of the problem so it must be destroyed at the same time.
To apply this solution to Russia only will probably lead to failure some decades hence (remember, the people of the USSR actually voted for its maintenance and not it’s dissolution) therefore a similar global revolution is required for ultimate victory.
Here’s what recently deceased scumbag Gerald Grosvenor (Duke of Westminster) had to say about his £8 Billion estate:
“He has to see himself as a caretaker, keeping the estates in good shape in his lifetime. It took me 10 years just to understand what I had inherited. It hasn’t been easy.”
Yeah…right.
@gT,
And the western governments have no real answers to the collapsing Ponzi schemes of our economies, the unwinnable resource wars, the climate changes because they are locked into the ideology of neo-conservatism and imperialism which requires endless growth to sustain.
We are reaching the limits of ‘growth’ as it is commonly understood which the one-dimensional fools in high office can see but cannot admit lest they lose their death grip on power.
Unable to come up with real solutions, divide and rule and fomenting constant chaos is the stop-gap they have settled on to cement their grip–so we can expect a lot more of that.
Any viable solutions will have to come from elsewhere, from fresh perspectives free of stale ideological constraints. A radical rethink is needed and since the current power holders have no intention of doing it, that only leaves us, the ordinary working joes who pay all the bills, material and otherwise, in any event.
A good article, Saker, thanks.
could you people please stop talking about chaos and muslims in one sentence? we (im european) have no chaos because of the muslims. there have been a few slaughtered very cruel = huge effect, but the chaos lies somewhere totally else: crony capitalism and everything that comes with it.
just count the dead from pills in Europe and and compare to dead from terrorist attacks in Europe……………….
Nope, the crony capitalism with its insider trading, pension looting and price and rate fixing is not called chaos, it is called business as usual. This occurs at the upper levels of the pyramid.
Chaos is reserved for the lower levels, where it is necessary to divert attention away from the business as usual practices. Yes, the deaths due to Muslim terrorist attacks are small, but the impact of their sexual molestations is huge. 50% of the European population, the females, now have their attention diverted away from the business as usual practices, and are now more concerned with whether they are going to get raped on their way to work, to the shop, to the train, or not.
Drugs are a great way to divert attention away from reality altogether. The Taliban drastically curtailed poppy cultivation is Afghanistan, hence the US had to step in to ensure the continued supply of opium and heroin.
Note how this article come right out and claims the usa backs al qaida:
Russian Airstrikes Rock Aleppo Artillery College, Al-Nusra After Siege Broken
http://sputniknews.com/news/20160807/1044036237/russia-airstrikes-aleppo-siege-rebels.html
“The victory for al-Nusra Front and allied anti-Assad Islamist rebel groups, which are strangely backed by the United States, suggests that the “groundbreaking” victory for the terror groups may be short-lived
Washington-backed ‘moderate’ rebels, including a freshly rebranded al-Nusra Front (al-Qaeda) and the violent Islamist group Ahrar al-Sham breached the Syrian government siege in the city of Aleppo on Saturday opening a corridor in the south marking a major setback for the Syrian Army supported by Russian airpower.
The United States claims that al-Nusra Front is not part of the ‘moderate’ group that is being supported, but by the admission of social media posts by al-Nusra Front and Ahrar al-Sham controlled accounts in the wake of the rebel breakthrough the two groups are intertwined in their fight in opposition to the Assad regime.”
Russian media no longer wastes time being “diplomatic” about american support for these terrorists.
What a pleasure to read such a brilliant cogent article. In my mind the so called war on terrorism is a war on all of Islam. I am not a Muslim either, but I have some good friends who are. They can not relate to these crazy Whahabis any more than I can.
Thank you Saker for this piece. I trust you don’t mind that I pass this onto some people I know who need it.
The Saker is undoubtedly correct in his analysis. Many Muslims are being used as useful idiots/dupes by parasitic organs of Zionist West. He does not go all the way to the end of the tunnel though.
To extend logic to saying Takfiris/Salafists are root problem, without actually looking at Islam’s trilogy is faulty logic. The trilogy actually predicates Takfiri behavior, especially due to post Medina abrogation.
There is no denying this reality, A religion that indurates psychopathy needs to be called out for what it is. If certain factions CHOOSE to not engage in post Medina gambits, does not change the fundamentals of their guiding documents.
Dr. Bill Warner has done a lot of work reducing Islam to numbers and analyzing it statistically. This then removes subjective opinion. Either Islam does these things or it doesn’t, data supports the argument.
Having feelings about your friends who are Muslim, blinds one to good analysis. We are talking about civilization constructs here; time to become dispassionate.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Uu4XnRS1hiz3JCpNFIuUg
Quibble – or is it?
Why does Sputnik refer to the democratically-elected Syrian government and president as the ‘Assad regime’?
@ Eimar:
“Why does Sputnik refer to the democratically-elected Syrian government and president as the ‘Assad regime’?”
^Ouch!
But I agree, do they refer to others nation leaders as regimes? How about the Obama regime? Or Merkel regime? Or Hollande regime? Netanyahu regime? Xi Jinping regime? Shall I dare say; Putin regime?
No?
I didn’t think so…
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Seriously! After RT going full libtard (can we have our old RT back? Remember them days? When they weren’t as visually polished as they are now, but their content was way better then than now), I’m wondering who are behind these various Russian News Outlets and what’s their agenda.
-TL2Q
This article is a very useful tool for those people who wish to explain what is happening to others who are not yet aware of the difference between normal muslim people and violent jihadis.
Dear Saker
Even today the majority of Muslims in most of the Muslim world are traditional Sunni Sufi muslims. There is an Islam that is depicted on the Anglozionist mainstream media and there is the Islam that is not shown at all.
Oppressive regimes find the anglozionist version of Islam more useful since they use it to justify their oppression and so continue looting of the peoples wealth.
Naturally the Muslims are angry and this anger erupts from time to time and feeds into the Anglo Zionist propaganda of depicting Islam as brutal savage and reactionary.
The reality is that Islam is the last frontier that rejects monopoly usury Capitalism. And since the bankers who rule the world understand this very well they have decided to fight Islam. They have opened many fronts against traditional Islam and the most dangerous front is a “parallel Islam” – Islam in name but its antithesis in reality. Thus from Shiasm to Qadianism to Wahhabism to Islamism, various movements were launched. With the fall of the Caliphate in 1909 ( not 1924) the sunni world was deprived of the central authority capable of presenting an organized defence against the anglozionist designs.
But trust me on this one. Traditional Islam is far more powerful than anyone assumes. Its ability to survive and overcome does not stem from its ability to defend itself militarily culturally or economically but it stems from its very nature to satisfy the quest of the human soul. So long as the human soul lives Islam is here to stay. Islam is the original message of Jesus which could survive in its original form only through the intervention of the holy prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Jesus peace be upon him threw the usurers out of the temple and so did the holy prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Islam will prevail. Islam permits trade and forbids usury. Islam wants to provide a serene space to the human necessary for him to realize that be is vicegerent of God on this planet. Once he recognizes this he takes on the investiture of the divine names – of love, of justice, of peace. Assalam u Aleikum Peace be upon you.
True , traditional sunni sufi islam will survive inspite of the attack of wahabsim in all its frorm from the muslim brotherhood to the iindian subcontinents deobandi tablighi jamaat form of wahabism. But the problem is institutionalised islam will and is being dominated by the different strands of wahabism.
The traditional sunni sufi islam will survive in houses and small sufi orders in small numbers until the muslims who have become wahabis eventually become atheists.[ The reason for their eventual turn to atheism is, as you said wahabism is a spiritually dead concept ,and eventually people will find no food for their soul in this sick and depraved ideology,and thus their rejection of the concept and belief in a God .] When atheism becomes a reality ,that is when the traditional sunni sufi based spiritually centred will find its calling and disillusioned materialist muslims will find their way back to the original spiritually centered sunni sufi way.
The problem is that religion gets hijacked by those who seek power and to create empire; the Ottoman, Vatican, and now Protestant and Wahabbism under NWO. Of course, Zionism facilitates all these powers. It has nothing to do with any faith religion itself using religion or oherwise, It is the struggle and competition to take over the world
so true Zula!
Beautifully said. From a mainstream Muslim. Thank you. Islam is here to stay, Islam will survive. Zionism/Judaism is using the West/faux Christianity as a bludgeoning tool against Islam, however this ‘tool’ is showing serious signs of cracking already. And yet, mainstream Islam(1.6 billion souls) hasn’t even committed one percent yet. Good luck to those who think they can subjugate the Islamic world/faith. thus, Russia is on the correct side of history. The creators of Wahhabism and Salafism and their supporters have blundered badly as these movements have already over-extended themselves and are in the process of being outright rejected by mainstream Muslims.
Strange that you include Shia along with Qaidani and wahabhi groups. It is true that these two groups are a recent phenomenon and would have remained on fringes of Islam or died out on the own. The Shia on the other hand are almost as old as Islam. An they constitute a near 20% minority among Muslims and till date there is no record of the West being in bed with them
Good article. A great tragedy is that Mecca is under the care of al Saud.
Yes, it is Israeli/Wahhabi (ISIS) occupied . . . Very well said, Saker.
Something that might help the terrorism situation is if the current “friendly” attitude in Turkish relations with Russia is “for real”. In an article on RT ,Erdogan is saying:
“Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the upcoming talks with his “friend” Vladimir Putin in Moscow will “open a new page” in relations between Turkey and Russia.
“This will be a historic visit, a fresh start. I believe that a new page will be opened [during] … the negotiations with my friend Vladimir,” Erdogan told TASS news agency in an exclusive interview ahead of his state visit on Tuesday, adding that “there is yet much for our countries to do together.”
The Turkish leader also stressed the importance of Russia’s efforts in Syria by acknowledging that the reconciliation of the Syrian conflict is impossible without Russia.
“A solution to the Syrian crisis cannot be found without Russia. We can resolve the Syrian crisis only in cooperation with Russia,” Erdogan said, stressing that Russia’s participation is highly important for the Syria peace process.”
https://www.rt.com/news/354990-erdogan-turkey-russia-relations/
So while its too early to say for sure. If that is Erdogan’s “new thinking”. Things might be improving in Syria soon.
And while he is actively bombing Kurdistan workers party in south east turkey today……..got to be some solution to kurdish situation too, cannot be excluded logically if now Turkey and Rus now aiming for and could achieve regional peace, security.
Southfront carrying article…..no chance of rapprochement turkey -egypt ,despite intermediaries, egypt offers a home to Gulen, delighted in coup attempt, and is now actively funding kurd workers party..claims Turkey is funding terrorism in Sinai peninsular……getting very complex folks.
Maybe? But Gulen would be a complete fool if he moved to Egypt. All it would take was a change of government there,or a large bribe,or a hit squad from Turkey. And he’d be done for.I don’t see him leaving the US to take his chances on something like that happening to him.
” When Hezbollah’s Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, refers to the Wahabi crazies as “shaitans” (demons) he quite literally correct. When the “moderate” terrorists execute 12 year old children and use chemical weapons against civilians it becomes quite literally impossible to imagine what the “hardliners” could be capable of.”
At last, a sensible and comprehensive overview of the Anglo Capitalists’ fake “clash of civilizations” pretext for endless war and looting. This article ought to be compulsory reading for every educated person who is interested in the second most dangerous trend in contemporary Western politics. (The first and most dangerous being NATzO’s war against Russia – ever simmering and now near to the boil).
Fortunately we (the sane, peace loving part of humanity) now have, currently fighting in Syria, no less than 3 sensible sane leaders who are not only militarily resisting the spread of Anglo Zionist armed chaos, but also resisting the poisonous Anglo Zionist “clash of cultures”. President Putin of Russia, President of Syria Dr.Assad, and Reverend Nasr’Allah of Hezb’Allah who represents the heart and soul of Lebanese resistance. As a British resident in Israel I find it interesting that you noted Rev. Nasr’Allah’s apt description of Wahabis as “demons”. There is a really religious dimension to these 3 leaders’ fight against the cursed union of Anglo Capitalist terrorism with Daesh extremism. “For we fight not only against flesh and blood but against Principalities and Powers, there is war in the Heavens” — St.Paul
Sorry St. Paul, there is no war in heaven but place for each of God’s sons,
there are only games, to create the perfect mixtures. War is on earth because of the ‘Prince of this world’.
It has been quite since the long tiresome negotiation between Iran and US for nuclear settlement. I think the US settled the negotiation with Iran in order to lure Iran away from especially Russia. I am wondering if Iran defected.
I think this is great article,that explains a lot of what is happening. I’d like to expand on it a bit with my own conclusions. I think this goes back to the beginnings of the zionist movement as well. When the zionists decided to establish Israel they found a big problem for them. A land ,that was mostly Muslim. And a Western World that hadn’t for a century had any real Muslim hatred. Certainly,they weren’t “pro-Islam”,but the West had come to an understanding with Islam. And took an attitude of “live and let live”. That wasn’t good for zionism. They needed the West as allies,to secure their control over Palestine. And a West that was “neutral” towards Muslims wouldn’t be of use to them.Only a West at war or hating Muslims would serve their purposes.
Probably the majority of Western writers on the Middle East in the 20th Century ,were Jewish. And if not many of the others were pro-zionist. So you began to see one pro-Israeli and anti-Muslim book after the other,for decades. That helped them,but it wasn’t enough to stir up the West into being anti-Muslim. So we began to see the issue of terrorism,more and more,as the century progressed.And all of it laid at the door of “Islam”.We saw books,movies,TV shows,one after the other,talking about a “clash of civilizations”. And when convenient pretexts came up,the Iranian revolution,the war in Afghanistan. Later the Taliban and Al Qaeda (and now ISIS). We see the zionists and their supporters saying “we told you so,all Muslims are bad”.
Certainly,Islamic jihadism coming from an unholy alliance between Western regimes (mainly the US),and the Saudi Wahhabism is a great threat. But we need to see how this came about. Who gains from it,to understand it. I remember at the time of 9/11,the press pushing the idea that the US needed to become a “security state” (read police state) like Israel is,they said . That was the only way to “fight terrorism” to their thinking. No one questioning then (and few now),what caused the rise of jihadism. Among peoples that had been peaceful for many years. What reasons were there for peoples, that from as late as after WWII had been friendly towards the West. Were now, “all of a sudden” deadly enemies of the West”.I do believe that its possible for coincidences to exist. But not one after the other. That bespeaks planning instead.
Hit the nail on the head..historically very relevant. Thanks.
Ps any info on english meddling in persia in 1880-90s, the tobacco monpol or such, which really aggravated and even united persians for a short time ?? Of course the major oil finds a few years later settled the persian question. Ironical that we anglos, cia-mossad-mi6, now control the opiate trade for those disenchanted iranian youths.. Wish the ayatollahs would drop the death sentence and concentrate more on water management & hypher efficient agric production..
Iran (Persia) was much bigger then than now. The British (and Russians) over and over again forced the Iranians to cede small areas of the country to them or their allies (some not so small). But “nibble by nibble” they took over more of it. Finally for a while the Iranians united and changed the leadership and that stopped. Until later they too got co-opted by the Western powers. And now we have the Islamic Republic that replaced the last discredited regime.
(That is just a very short wide overview.The history is much more detailed and complicated than that,when taken step by step But still it gives you a “big picture” of what happened.).
Here is a map showing the changes: http://payvand.com/news/12/dec/Iran-Territorial-Changes-19-20-Century-HR.jpg
@Probably the majority of Western writers on the Middle East in the 20th Century ,were Jewish
I don’t know about “the majority,” but the best book I know of, very fair, which means critical of ALL western meddling and betrayals, including the big kahuna of betrayals, that of the Palestinians by giving it to the Zionist Jews, is Peter Mansfield’s The Arabs. It’s the best.
It is a Penguin paperback.
Very clear on the way the Brits played the tribes of the Arabian peninsula, raised up the House of Saud, betrayed the Hashemite House of . . . can’t recall name, who was a moderate Muslim. Then the French betrayed his son, King Faisal, in Syria. Then the Brits betrayed him again in Iraq. He wanted to bring all of the tribes under one umbrella and unite the country, but the Brits wanted to have control of the . . . what else . . .OIL in Mosul, Basra, and elsewhere. Anyhow, Mansfield gives the best, very readable, account for an introduction to the history of the MENA and the role of Western meddlers, rise of ARab nationalism, etc.
There is definitely something to the idea of the Israelis stirring the pot against the Arabs qua Arabs (including Christians, and of course there are also Jewish ARabs), and all Muslims, but especially ARabs, the ones who live in the Zionists’ neighborhood and on the lands that the latter covet. .
Katherine
Yes,he seemed to have a love for the peoples he wrote about. Whether it had anything to due with his being born in India,I’m not sure. But I’d suspect it did influence his writing on the East.
Dear saker thanks for another deeply thought provoking article. You say that the Muslim brotherhood are a revolutionary bunch. …do they desire to see a sharia state in their respective nations? Is this part of thier overall aim or are they as you say more progressive and somehow are prone to integrating I to some kind of democracy?
Saker nailed it, it is the core of the issue.
Just an observation:
Rallying for a war against the Islam while collaborating with and supporting the Wahabism is very logical. There is one arch enemy of the empire: True spirituality. The Muslim Umma and it social ethics correspond wery well the the Catholic social ethics teaching, in particular with its Latin American expression. This is a deadly threat for the worshippers of greed and death cult, thus fighting Muslims and the Islam as a spiritual religion makes a lot of sense. Regarding Rome, they have their assets in the Vatican, not only since Mussolini.
And there are other brands of weaponizing pseudo-religion: The protestant sects and Scientology. The latter are for the “elite” to form the management, and the first ones are applied to Latin America, Africa and Asia outside the regions where Islam has relevant influence.
Weaponizing pseudo-religion is as old as Christianity since the Roman empire converting to it under a military dictatorship and transforming religion into regilion.
And any quest for total power used it. See for example The Occult Roots of Nazism by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke.
So how do you suggest Europeans fight terrorism without banning Islam? Wait until the moderates stand up? Don’t hold your breath, they are irrelevant when a priests head gets cut off. By not being against terrorism you are with them, there is no middle ground. Ive asked you this before, what is YOUR answer to this problem? waiting it out is not an answer. Actions are answers. Banning burqas are answers. Closing down mosques who have any link to terrorism are answers. Prosecuting people for knowing and not reporting terrorist acts is another one. What Chechnya showed us not that Wahhabi ideology has been killed but rather rich Muslims dont like to blow themselves up. It is well known that suicide bombers are generally poor and depressed. There is a reason you dont see too many terrorists from UAE, Qatar, Kuwait.
Islam is an outlet for lost, depressed, angry, sexually frustrated individuals. The Koran is not a cure for these people but a tool to release these feelings. Buddhism cannot be manipulated in such a way that blowing yourself up in a crowded market to kill as many people as possible will grant you speedy access to heaven. Christianity can be manipulated but nowhere near to that point. So why is the Koran so easily manipulated? Because it is flawed, imperfect. Our book the Bible teaches us… “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” The Koran was given to Mohammad by a Gin.
Christianity existed 600 years before Islam and it was preached and accepted throughout the middle east. When Islam came around it easily spread throughout the middle east like wildfire but was resisted in Europe and every white nation. The reason it spread so easily in the Middle east is because Islam suited the people better than Christianity. Turning the other cheek wasn’t gonna cut it. A true religion of peace didn’t have any room for sex slavery, mass murder, war and blood-lust. A religion was replaced with one that suited the agenda, similarly to what is happening in Mexico where Catholicism is being replaced with Satan worshiping via Santa Muerte because in Christianity there is no justification in reclaiming territory of Northern Mexico lost to the Gringo.
As Christians we cannot say that salvation can be achieved through the Koran, there is no room for that kind of acceptance according to the Gospel.
” A religion was replaced with one that suited the agenda, similarly to what is happening in Mexico where Catholicism is being replaced with Satan worshiping via Santa Muerte because in Christianity there is no justification in reclaiming territory of Northern Mexico lost to the Gringo.”
I’m not sure where you came up with that from. First,there is nothing about Christianity that has ever stopped wars over territorial issues. Christian countries have fought each other countless times over territorial issues. And second,I don’t see any real effort on the part of Mexico, seriously trying to reclaim those territories. Certainly if they were offered them back they’d probably agree. But there isn’t any “real” movement in Mexico to regain them.That might be the dream of a few people. But not any valid “movement”.
Did Mohammed kill or order people to be killed to further his religious cause ? Simple question that nobody on this site who claims Islam is a religion of peace will answer .
Why would you be “hung-up” by something like that. That type of thing happened throughout the Old Testament. And in the Christian World as well. Some people mistakenly consider that to be an exclusive Islamic action. And its not at all. I don’t thing I’d have enough space to list all the incidents of that in Jewish and Christian history,as well as Muslim.I suggest you refresh yourself on this Biblical passage,” let them without sin,cast the first stone”. We shouldn’t be casting any stones.
The old soft shoe shuffle. It’s pretty obvious what the implications of the answer are, which you side stepped with a bit of the moral equivalence routine. If the founder of the faith killed to further his religious cause then what is the problem with any of his subsequent followers doing the same thing? Pretty simple question that no one will answer .
The rules of war in Islam are very clear. No war of aggression is allowed , only fighting against oppression, injustice etc and in a defensive manner. When the enemy is defeated, one must cease and desist. When Islam came about , it was turbulent times and Arabia was a dangerous place, there were a lot of internal, as well as external enemies. After Arabia was cleared of threats, Islam was surrounded by two hostile empires, the Byzantines and Persians. Islam was able to defend itself against these treats in short order.
About 80-90 percent of Islamic expansion was peaceful, and not by the sword. Indonesia , the most populace Islamic country, not one sword was brought to bear. Even in Spain, initially not one sword was used.
Are you really under the impression that the way to have a respectful intelligent discussion that could result in a mutually beneficial exchange of ideas is to throw out a childish, irrelevant and rather smelly red herring …
Has any religious, political, social or ideological group ever attained power without killing or giving orders to kill?
I think Uncle Bob is right.
It’s hard to beat the Old TEstament for bloodthirstiness.
And what about that pesky Inquisition, also the way it was carried out in the New World.
Not to mention the, uh, Crusades.
Wasn’t it the Pope who ordered European knights to set out on the Crusades and capture Jerusalem? Did you hear about what then happened in Jerusalem? Ugh.
Plenty of religious leaders order heads and other bits to roll. Or burn.
Katherine
Christianity operates under supersession. Islam operates under Abrogation.
Understanding the difference brings clarity. The new Testament overturns OLD with supersession – or rather completes it, and makes much overturned – no longer relevant. The violent parts of OLD testament especially are overturned and no longer valid.
Abrogation is used in Islam to Cherry Pick the best verse to fit the day. Abrogation especially says that what comes later is better than what comes first. What comes later is POST MEDINA.
After Medina, Islam decidedly changed. The Koran is really two books, pre Medina and post Medina. But, since Koran is not written in chronological order, it is hard to discern the difference unless you are trained to do so. Guess who are trained to interpret?
Political Islam is yet another term that brings clarity to a western mind. This is not religion in the sense of separation of church and state, but is religion/law/state all mixed up with no division. It is a complete way of being and acting within a legal socio-political framework. That framework is why Sharia law is so desired after a Muslim population reaches 10% or more.
Hence, claims that there is peaceful conversion within subject populations, is really agitation in all political spheres FOR political islam. It is still war, but by covert action and subversion. This action is presently unfolding in the West.
As I posted earlier, Dr. Bill Warner has reduced Islam to statistics. This then makes analysis objective and data driven. Subjective claims founder upon the hard rocks of data.
https://www.politicalislam.com/
Hayek: EVer heard the phrase “the church militant”?
“Onward, Christian soldiers!”
Katherine
Islam is a peaceful religion. If it wasn’t, 1.6 billion Muslims would have overran the whole World by now.
There is a historical instance in Islamic history when the Jews of Medina committed high treason against the Muslims there(after essentially signing a peace treaty) when they attacked the Muslims from the rear while the Muslims were fighting for their very existence against their enemies who had them surrounded. Well, the Muslims (vastly outnumbered) prevailed against this external threat. But then it was time to deal with this high treason. Mohammed and other leaders consulted a prominent Rabbi of Medina on what the Jewish laws say about such betrayal; the Rabbi said be-heading, thus a significant number of the treasonous were executed by no other than their own racial brethren whom did not join the said treason.
When the Muslims liberated the Holy lands from the crusaders, they let Jews and Christians live in peace, and practice their religion. When the Crusaders(Christian) took over the Holy Land, they slaughtered all inhabitants of Jerusalem(and in other places) including women and children.
Islam is a peaceful religion. If it wasn’t, 1.6 billion Muslims would have overran the whole World by now.
Well, they are working on it aren’t they, isn’t that Mohammed’s mandate ? Remember, there is only one true believer, wonder who that might be ?
Medina was an entrepot city on East West Caravan routes. At the time it was completely controlled by the Haibaru (Hebrew).
Haibaru were donkey caravan tribes that moved goods and metal money between cities. This is why they still shill for gold as money, as it is outside the reach of the king, and used by merchants. I.E. the merchant is above the King.
Mohammed was a merchant in Mecca, which also had a large group of Jews present. This put Mohammed in direct conflict with Jews of the day, and explains the hostile passages against Jewry.
http://quotingislam.blogspot.com/2011/06/muhammad-says-that-one-day-very-trees.html
Medina is also the very spot that Habilis Neanderthalis crossed over on their way out of north africa, to then reside on top of mountains before fourth ice ages – long ago in pre-history. Today’s Semite speakers are lineal descendants of Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon peoples, with upwards of 30% Neanderthal DNA. This is quite obvious by observing physical features of remnant populations.
Entrepot cities are “lawless” cities where business is done between bigger city states. Those people who were ejected from populations would find themselves as wanderers between cities, and they could get caught up with donkey caravaners.
Cro-Magnon populations in the Neolithic stone age, built consensual civilizations, with social constructs to eject those who were murderers and anti-social. These anti-social types would find themselves in the same range as the thalls, thus leading to opportunity to inter-breed.
A unique kind of brain wants an invisible bearded sky-god, subordination of women, and no graven images Cro-Magnon people’s had balance between male and female in their religions, and also had fertility rites to be in balance with the earth. None of these balance features are present in neanderthalic brains. (No art in their caves hence no graven images are allowed. MIddle eastern art is geometric.)
Both Talmud and Islamic trilogy has psychopathy indurated to fixture.
@ Uncle Bob;
This is a quote from what you quoted by Leo: “A religion was replaced with one that suited the agenda, similarly to what is happening in Mexico where Catholicism is being replaced with Satan worshiping via Santa Muerte [..]”
To be fair… I think he was actually referring to ‘Santeria,’ which is an Afro-Caribbean ‘religion’ rather than a Satanist ‘religion.’
And it’s my suspicion that the ‘Caribbean’ part of it, it’s just there to muddle the waters. These type of things come from Africa. A similar argument can be made about the Brazilian Umbanda, and likewise; that originates from Africa – even though they do blend some Roman Catholic ethos (and saints) in their cults. Just like Santeria does.
If anything this kind of stuff illustrates even better (better than relying on historical references of this Muslim country vs. that Crusader one, or these native people stripped off their land by invaders [etc]) as I was saying … this better illustrates the dire situation happening in the West in general, but mainly Europe.
Islam is the xeno ‘religion’ / culture, just like Santeria, Voodoo, or Umbanda are (to name a few). Non of those sects/cults are aboriginal to the Americas (as I said before, they’re African). Yet! There they are, and growing.
As much as I sympathize with these Afro-ethnic people living in a strange continent that’s not their own, and why they’re sticking to their old beliefs… in reality: they have no right to spread their nonsense to people that are not their own (I’m saying this as someone that lost a family member to one of these Umbanda sects, and neither she, nor I, nor any member of my family have any ties to the African continent, or their culture to begin with).
And you lot can go right ahead and brand me politically incorrect by saying what I just said, but I can see, with my own two eyes, that’s exactly what Islam is doing to Europe – changing it beyond recognition, and no-one asks what right they have to do that.
But to be fair, this case is even worse; because they’re the protected species by the local authorities, unlike people from African sects in the Americas, who don’t get ‘preferential treatment,’ at least not as far as I’m aware.
Massive difference!
-TL2Q
Oh! And another thing!
In the light of what I just said previously… this OP piece it’s either; helping or hurting.
And I must say – in balance, the way I see it; it’s doing more harm than good :/
-TL2Q
PS: I just saw on RT a live broadcast with Putin and Turdogan speaking together (next to each other, mind you).
Please, do excuse me, but I feel like barfing right now…
TL2Q
That which you saw was Putin mildly releasing Erdogan from a stranglehold
Stay tuned for further developments and pass the popcorn ( non monsanto, of course).
Can someone say: Constantinople and Turk-stream again?
@ T1:
“Can someone say: Constantinople and Turk-stream again?”
I don’t know about the Constantinople angle of it, but do the Russians really want their all-important gas pipes to be tied down to a basket-case nation? And they’re getting loonier (and more arrogant) by the minute.
Likewise; I don’t know what is there to celebrate by Turkey pivoting to Asia. If I was in Asia, say, China, I wouldn’t want anything to do with them and I’m pretty sure most Chinese would agree with me (not their elites, of course, but that’s another matter entirely).
-TL2Q
I knew he was talking about Santeria (I lived in Cuba a while). My point wasn’t about the religions. It was the other half of his statement about Mexico trying to reclaim the US Southwest. That simply isn’t true. Certainly a “few” would like it back (and I think it was stolen to begin with, BTW). But there is no “real” effort by Mexicans to reclaim it.
@ Uncle Bob:
No, no. I know what you were referring to in the second part of your post. That’s why I didn’t feel there was a need to address it and left it out.
And I agree with you, while there are some Mexican hardcore nationalists who would like to see those lands returned to them (and yes, they were stolen), I would imagine both; Mexicans living in the US an Mexicans in Mexico don’t want that to happen, because… getting those lands back would also mean paying for them, and they can’t afford that! Same situation why Russia don’t want Ukraine back. And who can blame them?
-TL2Q
PS: I’m so jealous that you managed to live in Cuba for some time :-)
For the most part, American southwest was bought from Mexico.
There were never really many Mexican’s in the American southwest, there were Indians. Mestizos as a race hadn’t even formed yet.
It is easy enough to look at population statistics, so one can de-hypnotize oneself from false narratives. (I think the Saker is also spinning a false narrative of Islam).
Aztecs especially would not venture north because Apache, who were cannibals, would slaughter them. Centuries of conditioning made Aztecs fearful to cross the deserts. If they did any trading it was strictly along coastlines.
The very reason Mexico invited American’s into Tejas was due to this very fact, the only people they could get to go North were Spaniards. Of these, they were mostly Marano Jews formerly from Canary Islands,
It was white people who populated and built the western America’s. Most Mexicans are recent immigrants – very very few families go back even five generations.
As more and more Mexicans fill up the U.S. they will create myths to validate their actions.
@ MEFOBILLS:
“There were never really many Mexican’s in the American southwest, there were Indians. Mestizos as a race hadn’t even formed yet [..]”
And since Mexicans came into existence only because of the Spanish/Portuguese invasions. No wonder, there weren’t any “Mexicans” there and just “Indians,” gee! I wonder why that was? :/
And, for FFS! So; if there’s an empty enough area (say, Siberia), am I allowed to take it over? Just because it’s empty, or not populated enough?
Just because some areas [do you have any real idea of how big the Americas continent is? Hint: the maps are not exactly accurate, at least not visually (*) ] weren’t fully controlled by this or that native-american tribe/civilization, that doesn’t mean that was an open invitation for Europeans who where running out of room in their pathetically small, rat infested, black-death ridden continent to go over there and help themselves to huge portions of pristine land. Is it?
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(*) = Here’s the pic of a more accurate global map here: http://www.hitxp.com/pics/peters-map.jpg
Plus the article that goes with it:
Why is the Popular World Map Wrong?
http://www.hitxp.com/articles/science-technology/mercator-peters-robinson-projection-world-map-cartography/
^ Essentially because I read about this years ago (not sure if this linked article mentions it or not) the traditional global map tends to overblow the size of the North hemisphere territories while downsizing the ones on the South.
When in the updated map (based on actual data by sq. miles or sq. kilometers) first thing that it jumps at you is that Africa is huge! But so it’s South America in comparison to North America in the traditional global map.
Yeah… on the down side, Russia doesn’t look as mighty as the traditional global map depicts her either. They’re squashed down to size, no-where near as big as we picture it, while China looks rather way bigger than the US.
-TL2Q
TL2Q,
My main beef is with false narratives that are used to pursue and agenda. If the agenda creates lower civilized type humans, then it is an enemy.
Here is a video that shows the advance of Islam as it conquered nations and people… and yes it had a sword at the tip. Were the invaded people better off afterwards; the answer has to be no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
With regards to Western Invasion of America’s, it was a mixed bag. Let’s consider that narrative of the Indians popularly told, is not accurate. Many Indian tribes were Cannibals. They did not invent the sail, or the wheel. They did not invent brick, nor did they make roads to allow commerce. There was metal under their feet in the land, and they did not learn how to fashion it into goods. Think about the act of cutting off ones scalp and then leaving the person to bleed to death. One favorite act of Indians would be to put other tribes, or whites on lattice works of wood. Then let them bake in the sun. Other Indians might cut them to hear them scream.
This was a form of entertainment, like TV. Indians would sit around and watch torture as entertainment. Eating other people was not done in Western World for thousands of years, so Indians were very primitive.
The Aztecs were relatively civilized compared to those tribes of Western America’s. Farming cultures and more advanced Indian tribes were treated pretty well. The more Cannibalistic and Animal like tribes were treated harshly by the White Man. The Whites of that era were convinced they had a superior Christian Culture, and were not ashamed to impose it on barbaric heathen Indians (their opinion).
The point about immigration of groups, is that an inferior and more barbaric culture, if it arrives and takes over, is a disaster. A superior culture that allows people to self actualize and have more freedom from want, is desirable. In all of human history there are tribes overrunning other tribes.
Southern Mexicans who have R type breeding patterns and are mentally infused with death cult programming, are not capable of building higher civilization. Islam equally has a poor record of allowing high civilization to build, because Sharia has all the answers, so what really happens is regression and stagnation.
The whole idea how Islam dominated ME, although I don’t have knowledge on islam originated by Mohammed since 7th century, how it spread like wild fire, I believe probably due to the Ottoman empire. Many information coming from West hardly teaches the origin and spreading of Islam. It will be interesting to know (haven’t read the Quran), the history how and why Islam was originated and how it was spread throughout the world. Once again, the interest for spreading it under the Ottoman was to create large empire using Islam. In return, the Ottoman guarantees solidarity against Christianity and anti the Ottoman. This shows, Islam did not spread naturally but by force.
@Zula
If you want to know how Islam originated it is a good idea to consult the historical accounts of people who had not written the Quran. For instance, the Hadiths:
“Then Allah’s Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, “Cover me! Cover me!” They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, “I fear that something may happen to me.” Khadija replied, “Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones.” Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin ‘Abdul ‘Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, “Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!” Waraqa asked, “O my nephew! What have you seen?” Allah’s Apostle described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, “This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses.(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3).
The text is actually straightforward enough to draw the conclusion (backed by other sources) that the real inspiration behind the ‘revelation’ of Mahomet was his ‘Queen Esther’, Khadija. She ‘convinced’ him that his terrifying paranoid visions (typical for schizophrenia, a fact that the Meccans were aware since his childhood) were divine inspirations (using sex like Esther). She actually started telling her neighbors that the angel Gabriel had spoken to her husband in the cave and that he was the “final messenger.” She was obviously claiming that Mohammad had a connection to the God of the Israelites (Jews) and sent him to be coached by Waraqa, and then to Medina, most likely to be coached into ‘prophethood’ in a more Jewish environment).
WizOz,
Thanks for the info. Can’t help but wonder if Islam was created to counter Christianity at that time. It probably threatened Judaism. The Hebrews didn’t like Christ, hence the crucifixion. Notice also, both Christianity and Islam seem to be based from Hebrew? Here it seems, the coming of Mohammed was to compete with Christ. If everything what is in quran is the same as what is in the bible except the messengers, then it is for competition particularly Islam has been dominant in that region slaughtering Christians for no reason.
The Quran was brought down from God almighty to Mohammed through Arch-angel Gabriel. Not one letter of the Quran has been manipulated, unlike the various versions of the Bible. Nowhere in the Quran does God state that suicidal attacks will grant you heaven, in fact the Quran explicitly forbids suicide, period. However, the Quran says fight oppression, injustice, defensively.
Read what the Holy Quran says about Jesus, and Mary. Be enlightened.
Wonderful commentary. Thank you.
“The Bastille Day terrorist hailed by ISIS as a “soldier of Islam” had bisexual flings — and his main male squeeze was a 73-year-old retiree”
“‘Nice attacker drank alcohol, ate pork, took drugs and never went to mosque”
“Laptops recovered from ISIS jihadists are filled ‘up to 80%’ with PORN, reveals former US intelligence director”
After a successful terrorist attack, you will find articles with titles like these. It’s typical US psyops: discredit the enemy, don’t let successful terrorists become heroes or martyrs.
“The various forms of traditional Islam worldwide are now under a double threat: on one hand from the Wahabi crazies and their Saudi patrons and, on the other, from the cultural/ideological war the West is now waging against Islam as a religion and as a civilizational model.”
Dear Saker, for me, out of the whole (very astute) analysis, this paragraph stands out as the primary take-away I feel your we all should reflect on.
The tragic fact is that the Saudis have used their petrodollars to bank roll wahabism/takfirsm into the Muslim world, sowing great discord, disunity, hate, and ultimately neo-khajirite violence.
Regards,
Anon. Lurker.
I have seen a Youtube once the sickening recruitment of a young Saudi by the kingdom. They indoctrinate the youth by saying (not exact words and was in Arabic with subtitles), unless he goes and blow himself up at targeted place, Islam will be finished, he is doing this suicide for the sake of islam. In fact, on this video, I remember, the kingdom used his father sitting next to him to convince the young man and the father blessing him afterwards. This video might still be posted on YouTube.
excellent piece, enlightening i would even say
Txs saker
… Great analysis Saker, but people who can think straight are as much a target of the extremism virus as non-violent sects of Islam.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201407/anti-intellectualism-and-the-dumbing-down-america
Especially in the political arena.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/opinion/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.html?_r=0
Islam has been kind of offered the same deal as the American Progressives (Most DNC progressive platform ever in exchange for more war abroad) ; a cut of the pie in exchange for complicity and children sacrificed to war.
http://www.ramzybaroud.net/response-bill-clinton-liberty-america/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/vote-for-hillary-clinton-vote-for-the-military-industrial-complex-and-world-war/5539746
Converting religions from within into surprisingly compliant attack dogs isn’t new to Anglo-Zionism. They did it to modern Christians to create the postmodern Evangelical version.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/04/corporate-america-invented-religious-right-conservative-roosevelt-princeton-117030
Evangelicals don’t go around lopping off heads but they have long cheerled bombing interventions in foreign countries. They are socially secured in power with extensive social and business networks, the product of not-so-tacit tacit A-Z favouritism. The most perfidous strain running through them all is the Armageddon Lobby, which is little more than a dedicated cult of greifers sabotaging civil society, driven by the belief (and enjoyment) of destroying under the pretexts of saving.
When free to resist, people reject extremism. People in Muslim countries don’t have that luxury, to be manipulated by just peerless elites of their own.
https://valerietarico.com/2016/03/04/evangelical-christianitys-brand-is-used-up/
Climate change will affect Islamic population most extensively. Peoples of Islam compose a good portion of the equatorial and global south. This will only give more leverage to A-Z harassment.
https://letterpile.com/books/Climate-Wars-A-Review
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-07/stunning-images-americas-most-important-aquifier
Ironically climate change might, in a few centuries time, restore the ‘Garden of Eden’ to the Sahara and Saudi Arabia. A warmer world might shift African moonsoons northwards, something normally periodically caused by shifts in Earth’s axial tilt. Making those regions prime geopolitical real estate, but in a distant future.
http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/02/another-global-warming-catastrophe-the-sahara-desert-is-getting-greener/
Its interesting that the U.S. is making such a big priority of AFRICOM and coddling Saudi Arabia. After the oil runs out, these regions may see a boon of water and all the value-added development that comes with it.
To get back on-topic, any grand middle and long-term plans for the global future rests on the fate of the existing local populations occupying much of the equatorial and global south real estate, many of whom are of Islam. While one can’t rule out sheer stupid thrills for the sport of it, there may be more strategic method to the madness than just short term oil dibs.
Dear Saker
There is a very simple solution to this problem. Help set up traditional sufi school under traditional Muslim scholars. The resources needed for this are nothing compared to the benefits that will stem from it.
For starters Chechnya could become the centre of traditional Sufi Islam and could help set up traditional Sufi schools in various parts of the world under genuine Sufi teachers.
Teachers like Hamza Yusuf, Abdul Hakim Murad, Imam Zayd Shakir, Shaykh Muhammad bin Yahya an Ninowy and similar scholars in middle east and indopak.
The one’s you named are mostly frauds in service of empire – not much hope from them.
look no further than Imran Hosien. be enlightened.
Saker sounds like the western media parrot.After every attack they exclaim: “This has nothing to do with Islam ! Islam is peacefull ! Hug a muslim ! The greatest danger is that right wing populist use this to gain power ! ”
Nope Saker.The muslim have to leave Europe.We will not be replaced by them.We will not hand our countries over to them.And yes they want to conquer us and Russia too.Seperated we can live with them, with open borders no way.Finally it doesnt matter what i say or do or what Sake thinks or does, the war is on.If Russia insists with force on western multicultural globalism and open borders its the enemy and not a friend.Of course “the russians” can have all the opinions they want.The russians i know are the most vile enemies of Islam because Islam hits them as hard as it hits us.And to be clear: I was always against the wars in the muslim world be it the Iraq war or the war against Hezbollah in 2006 or what have you.Right now i changed my mind.The goal of western european policy once its free should to enforce the rule of secular military autocrats a la Gaddaffi or Assad in arab/muslim countries in order to control and modernize them.Multiculturalism is the heart and center of globalism.The war against the serbs was fought because “there can be no racially homogenic national states in this time”.These are the words of NATO.Its doesnt matter if muslims conquer by force or by peacefully by birth rates.We are not Russia.We are tiny.We want our quality of life back.They have to go !
Valhalla is not rising: you’ve all been emasculated, and your women are no Valkyries either. Most sad, but that’s the reality: you’re a ripe waiting to be plucked – or even just fall on its own.
You’re not Russia, and you’re tiny: so ally yourselves with Russia, and stop your ruinous subservience to the US, or you will be wiped out by militant Islam.
However, if you think the Saker is a parrot, I don’t see how you will ever know what’s good for you. Therefore, your country cannot but be overrun…
From Svenro…sorry I strongly disagree. Your string ill founded belief….This is exactly what Rothscies and Langley want. As well demonstrated by that kowtowing Danish idiot, Fogh Rasmussen..Tænker igjen Viking..
“The goal of western european policy once its free should to enforce the rule of secular military autocrats a la Gaddaffi or Assad in arab/muslim countries in order to control and modernize them.”
It’s precisely because of this kind of mentality that the “civilised” West can wage war all over the world in the name of “Democracy” and “Humanism”. Westernization is synonymous of globalisation.
People like you just see the problem not the causes, the causes of mass immigration and refugees has always been the foreign policies of your governments: economic sanctions, bombing, invading and pillaging countries.
why did the soviet invade afghanistan?
@ anon 9:10 am UTC
There has been some controversy about ‘why the Soviets invaded Afghanistan’. If you read William Blum’s research of the ‘invation’ he writes that the Soviets did not invade as much as they were invited by the Afghan Government of Mohammed Taraki in 1979 to help him put down the Muojahedeen; https://williamblum.org/chapters/killing-hope/afghanistan
confirmed by this source; http://www.eurekaencyclopedia.com/index.php/Category:Afghan/Soviet_War
Every word true (except the bats in Kenya, that would be Congo)! But unfortunately the people of the west are incapable of understanding and forcing their elites to change course. As it is said, “he whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad”. The population of the west has been driven mad by TV, propaganda and consumerism. The proof? Pokemon Go. I rest my case! Since, as the bible tells us, “there is none so blind as he who will not see”, the western public cannot rescue itself.
The rest of the world, lead by Russia, must rise to the task.
I don’t think hedonism and consumerism are bad, I think the pursuit of pleasure is a neural thing.
But propaganda is actually evil, more evil than terrorism, if anyone should be killed it’s not the murderers (or terrorists or whatever you want to call them), but the journalists, internet commenters, etc. To be 100% clear: I would define “propaganda” as repeating the same argument more than one time. Google “Ad Nauseam” logical fallacy, this is what they do, and individuals, groups and countries who do that, should be killed.
What about if the argument being repeated is true?
Depends. If this or that person is your enemy, and resists to accept truth, I think it’s not worth it to try and convince him. Let him stay wrong, I say.
If he is your friend and if his life is in an immediate danger if he doesn’t know this truth, then sure, repeat it as many times as is needed for him to never forget it. Because it’s an emergency.
I was surprised to learn that the word “propaganda” originally meant “to propagate”, i. e. “to spread”, to make a message known to as many followers of the Catholic Church as possible. Now it means not to spread but to repeat a message a large number of times.
I don’t have a problem with letting people know the truth, but, in my opinion, I don’t see it as my job to make people agree with the truth… as long as not a single one of them is my friend or is in immediate danger and a state of emergency.
Such is my personal opinion, to underscore: I would save a friend or a stranger from drowning, but I wouldn’t save an enemy from drowning.
Hi The Saker,
thanks for an interesting article, you are right about its only a very small percentage of muslims involved in terrorism. As a muslim from Morocco I can say I have never heard of ”Qutbism” and most moroccans would say same thing.
This small group of ”so called” muslims involved in terrorism and calling it Jihad are actually ”khawarijits”, this group existed for centuries. Not all ”salafis/wahabis” are involved in terrorism, I know few and they also call this group ”khawarits”.
As Mehdi Hasan says (if Islam is teaching terrorism why is the rest of muslims (99.9 percent doing it), its only a very very small group (the Alqaeda type).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9tNyp03M0
I’m against killing on principle, and I think there is nothing to be done against paramilitary organizations without killing their members. Therefore, there is no way to stop “terrorists” (paramiliary groups), let them kill whoever they want, the war on “terror” is a bad cause, war already IS terror.
So I choose to never support any “war on terror”.
What I wanted to make a side note on, whoever, is this: there is no “west”, it is an outdated cold war era term, meaning anticommunist countries. Today, we have America, which is very capitalist to the point of having the “eat the poor” mentality, and we have Canadia, which is a socialist country, and yet they both hate Russia. So if not only capitalist but also socialist countries hate Russia, maybe just maybe Russia makes some evil decisions.
If America was a person and died, I would not even go to her funeral. But something else is going on and not any ridiculous “second cold war”.
Many commentators are offering or looking for possible solutions to DAESH Isis etc., A waste of time which runs contrary to the Langley CIA doctrine of perpetual conflict. Langley with full supprt of NATO EU have a proxy army doing their dirty work with dispoable, semi literate gullible youths..their nerfarious actions and threats also support the GLADIO doctrine for the EU. Israel have no objections the YONin plan is on track and no ‘western’ military will risk their own soldiers as deonstrated by record suicides among US vets and the growing protests from Israeli refuseniks.
Tragically for ME Muslims facing often unbearable heat waves and water shortages their black gold has become their suffocating quicksand. EU victims are desired collateral damage.
Your call this time Langley-Tel aviv….
Dear The Saker,
I have a personal question to ask you about this article, and I believe many people might have this question in their mind…
You have mentioned the “western world” and “the West” several times in this article, concluding with “The West stands at a crossroads…….”.
My question to you is who do you define as being “the West” ?
Are they the intellectuals, grass-root movements, the general populations or members within the leadership, members within the Anglo-Zionist Empire, or all of the above (generally addressing everyone in the West) ?
I believe this article is a very good educational lesson to anyone in the West (or anywhere else in this world for that matter), and I therefore assume “the West” is the entire Western population and its institutions, but I wanted to ask you anyways for clarification…
As for your explanation on the Takfiri phenomenon, I believe it is pretty accurate and well studied……
….the term “Takfiri” is accurate in my opinion as an Arab Sunni Muslim to define these very extreme violent groups, and it is even more accurate than the term Wahhabi (or Wahbism), since we are in a much more developed stage at this moment in time than what Abdul Wahab preached back in the Arabian peninsula…..Maybe using the term Wahabism is giving to much credit to this person, but this is an issue for debate.
“Islam” to the mainstream Muslim populations and to our historic main stream well known and accepted historic scholars and schools of thought is by default moderate and should take the middle way or middle ground, or the balanced way…
…..anything extreme in Islam from a scholarly perspective is considered deviant and is considered against the teachings of Islam, whether it is being extremely liberal like constitutionalizing homosexuality or being extremely violent like chopping people’s heads off for believing they are not actual Muslims.
Dear Saker ,
This is a masterpiece . Superb .
Spasibo
Mikel
There is also a case to be made that Judaism was hijacked by Zionist/banker/fascists. In 1948, Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt and about 50 other notable Jews in US civil society sent a letter to the NY Times, warning against the very people who are causing such chaos, citing and calling by name, their fascist and terrorist tendencies.
But as is obvious, that wing got control, and through AIPAC, Wall Street, Soros, NYT, etc, have gotten control of the narrative and we see the result.
It appears to me that the Jewish community in general acquiesced to this ‘mis’leadership, and there is now rising resistance to it. So on the one hand we have the powerful and influential neocons like the Kagans, Nulands, Kristols, etc. On the other, the ‘old Jewish Left’ which was opposed to militarization and exploitation, has been dormant for decades but now slowly it is finding a voice. Jill Stein, who is Jewish, has called out the militarization of the economy, the exploitation of the Palestinians, the inherent racism in the US, the depredations of the Bankers, the war driven foreign policy.
Whether, like the traditional Muslims, Jewish civil society can route out the crazies is the key question, because the rot is deep.
“… all religions need a way of coming to terms with the modern world and with plural society.”
There are a number of contrasting factors in the complex puzzle circling around SA:
1. The SA regime claim (for authority) to be the protectors of the two sacred mosques.
2. The traditional ‘protector’ family line before the Saud intervention is now the king of Jordan.
3. There is a schizophrenia in the Arabian (SA) peninsular —
(a) the medieval Wahabism mentioned which controls the social and cultural agenda (e.g., misogynist orientation) from the great mosques; and
(b) the largely Houston educated and orientated playboy ruling class of self-defining modern ‘exceptional’ ex-goat herders from the Riyadh region.
4. SA TV-land is often banal infantile re-runs of heavily censored 1960’s US ‘Brady Bunch’ mush.
5. Indonesians and other Indian subcontinent workers are treated like slaves while the tourist industry (I mean Hajj) caters to a global population ranging from sophisticated 5* moderns down to primitive Africans who have not even seen a traffic light in their lives.
6. Numerous legitimate recognised schools of thought exist in Islamic domains — Wahhabism is not one of them.
7. However, on a simplistic level — two alternative world views can be observed within the mindset of islam (and for that matter any other religious system):
(a) that line of thinking which says (according to the Book in question) all things are permitted unless explicitly prohibited; and
(b) conversely, the other line of thinking which says all things are prohibited unless explicitly approved. Wahhabism is of this second type.
8. Following on from (7) — there are ‘gaps’ in between the interpretations. Thus chewing of Catha edulis (khat, qat) is permitted in the more relaxed Yemen, while it is prohibited in SA.
9. In addition to the tendencies of the Semitic mind towards grand exceptionalism (and by no means alone in that) there are suggestions in folk-lore the Jews who were evicted from Median during the time of the Islamic prophet settled in the regions around Riyadh. Thus promoting an ancient connection with the current ruling class and ideology in Occupied Palestine.
Bottom-line:
SA is a mighty mess and can only exist as a viable entity as long as: (a) the mainstream media are paid off (the narrative); and (b) the every-printable fiat petro-$USD can be sunk into the bottomless black-hole of the SA desert (and/or recycled for military-industrial complex inventory). Cui bono? Houston et al (i.e., Saudi Aramco).
All that aside, the observations (below) regarding Erdogan and the Turkish psychi also apply to the SA context: “… this is about personal authority” over large areas of desert; (private) family wealth; and general (public) ignorance.
[As a footnote: It seems not to be noticed that, along with many other ‘Islamic’ values emerging, the largely bankrupt Western banking system is trending towards a ‘no-interest rate’ system? Degrees of correlation or causation?]
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Interview: Professor Greg Barton, counter terrorism expert with Deakin University (6:42min, 21/07/2016)
“GREG BARTON: Well Islamism is very much a here-and-now focus on political power. I mean, commonly the formulation is application of Sharia, if not an Islamic state, so top-down enforcement of religious morality and observance. Erdogan is representing people and has the popular support of people who are basically Sufistically-inclined, but his own inclinations has borrowed a lot from the surrounding Islamism of countries like Egypt, where in many respects he’s always had a sympathy for the Muslim Brotherhood. That doesn’t have a presence in Turkey, but his inclinations run that way ever since he was Mayor of Istanbul in the 1990s and then became this transformational prime minister of a new party. So, there’s an odd tension there. I mean, in theory, the people supporting him actually have the same religious outlook as people in the Gulen network, but this is about personal authority.
TONY JONES: It is interesting to note though when it comes to the Gulenist movement, the Catholic Church, even some leading Zionists in the United States, have described the principles and teachings of Gulen as the antidote to fundamentalism. Is that an accurate assessment?
GREG BARTON: Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Indonesia earlier, Tony. I mean, Gus Dur Abdurrahman Wahid was very different in his personal style than Fethullah Gulen, but I’ve met Gulen a couple of times and he strikes me as a similar sort of moderate, modern Sufistic Muslim. He’s more socially conservative than Abdurrahman Wahid was, but in many ways, very similar ideas and I’ve looked at the ideas of both men very closely. So, yeah, I think that idea that – people often say Islam needs reformation. That’s too simplistic, but all religions need a way of coming to terms with the modern world and with plural society, and in Indonesia and in Turkey, we’ve seen these leaders offer a way forward and it’s basically been a good news story, so it’s a pity it’s mired in political controversy at the moment.”
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2016/s4505134.htm
A+ article Saker.
Also A+ goes for the post at 6:04 am of Uncle Bob 1.
I fully support what the Saker is telling us. I will not add anything beyond my hope that he will be understood and my fear that the crazies Zionists running the Empire will do everything to maintain the course to Armageddon.
Dear Saker
Let us not forget for it is a human trait to forget. Let us go back to basics. Yes the Takfiri Wahhabi is not representative of Islam and yes they may have committed some individual acts of terror and violence in the west but let us start by counting the most recent western crimes against Humanity.
1. Vietnam War and the millions killed
2. Afghan war and the millions killed
3. Iraq war and the millions killed
4. Libyan war and the millions killed
5. Israeli war against Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria
6. And other innumerable war crimes.
So while discussing Islam and Muslims let us not forget the backdrop against which this discussion is being held, There seem to be some self righteous individuals here and this is just a reminder for them lest they forget. Almost all acts of violence attributed to Islam in the west are False flags and all acts of violence in the east in the name of Islam seem to have a heavy involvement of western intelligence and western state actors. For those who are calling for an ouster of Muslims and Islam from the west let me say this: Leave the Muslims alone in their own countries and they wont even look at your west and at your Europe. Out own countries are far better if you just leave us alone. Let me say this. I have extensively travelled the west and I have not seen anything in the west that we do not have in the east. To you your west and to us our east. Just leave us alone.
Its even worse. There is the Western tendency to only consider the lives lost of their own people as counting. And not even think about the others. If you asked most Americans the cost in lives they’d give you the US figure. And “maybe” say,”and others as well”.So the Afghan and Iraq war to most Americans cost around 10,000 lives. The several million others were “enemy dead” or “collateral damage” without numbers attached. The same with Vietnam and the other wars. As long as the media is controlled by the elite and the regimes in power,that won’t change.
When you tell the Saker “leave us alone”, I do not understand you. If Russia had not come to help Syria against the terrorists, Syria would be in the same chaos as Libya. When the Anglo-Zionist Empire is creating havocs in the Middle-East, we have to be thankful for Russia, Iran and the Hezbollah for their interventions. Someone has to stop KSA, Qatar and the Muslim Brothers.
Many thanks to Putin, Khamenei, Nasrallah and Assad.
Anonymous said “For those who are calling for an ouster of Muslims and Islam from the west let me say this: Leave the Muslims alone in their own countries and they wont even look at your west and at your Europe.”
Therefor his second utterance of “leave us alone” was referencing the former, he was telling those in the West to “leave us alone”, not the Saker or Russia.
Thanks for an objective
Constructive analysis.
Saker, your analysis parallels that of the staff of The Daily Bell; in this recent post, “New York Times Whips Up Anti-Islam Hatred with Extensive Article” they make the following points and provide links to evidence that supports their position and please forbear as I post an extensive excerpt. I think it’s worth researching and making your own conclusions but the point is that the A.Z. empire is manipulating, as always, its subject peoples who have programmed to lose the ability to think for themselves.
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/new-york-times-whips-up-anti-islam-hatred-with-extensive-article/
EXCERPT:
“Bottom line implication: Islamic terror cannot be stopped without the forthright action of the US federal government.
Of course, since this is an endless Times article, we never learn that those behind US and European governments funded first Al Qaeda and then ISIS.
We never learn the growing war between radical – fundamental – Islam and the West is a bankers’ war……”
Top Western elites fortified by banking money created first Al Qaeda and now ISIS, Here.
Globalists created Wahhabi Terrorism to Destroy Islam and Justify a Global State
http://www.globalresearch.ca/g…
You Can’t Understand ISIS If You Don’t Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terrorism
http://www.globalresearch.ca/a…
CIA Agent Admits Obama Created ISIS To Invade Syria
http://yournewswire.com/cia-ag…
Top Western elites created the current wars in the Middle East and then imported hundreds of thousands of Muslims into Europe.
Though people don’t want to contemplate it, much of the terror now taking place in Europe and the US shows signs of Western intel manipulation.
Islam versus the West is a recipe for authoritarianism and banker control……
Deal with issues locally if at all possible. We just wrote about that Here.
The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people, see Here. The modern world has not been continually convulsed by crusader-style – East versus West – military campaigns.
Here is a debunking of the “endless Islamic violence” meme (“The Myth of the Murderous Muslim”). You may choose to disbelieve it, but it makes some good points.
In fact, plenty of people live together around the world without trying to slit each others’ throats.
What ought to be confronted first? The neo-Gladio intelligence operations in the US and Europe that have funded Islamic terrorism ought to be called to account. The immigration policies initiated by Brussels, DC and London’s City ought to be challenged as well.
These larger manipulations should cease. Unfortunately, more and more people are turning to central government for “protection” and “action.”
This is how a religious war is built. This is how federal governments maintain control.
Conclusion: Electronic information has revealed how such control works. Chaos and war are always the work of a powerful handful. People need to confront the real agents of terror and war if at all possible, not just their foot-soldiers.
I appreciate, and agree with, Saker’s standpoint that Islam is NOT the problem. But you can even be more radical by saying that wahhabism is not the problem either.
Because, as explained by the Saker above, you do not need wahhabism to explain the terror attacks in the US and EU, and the endless US backed wars in the Middle East.
For the former you need psychologically weak individuals who can be blackmailed.
For the latter, a mercenary army will do. This is what the article above from the Saker is saying to me.
And the root cause for the atrocities that are discussed in Saker’s article (and elsewhere) is a simple one, that is that religion is a good thing for good people, and a bad thing for bad people.
It is that simple.
Stealing, robbing, killing, and because you do not want to say to yourself that you are a miserable thief and thug, will make you rationalize your deeds by calling them ‘God’s will’. And for this you will find plenty of excuses in all religious books, non excepted.
And for those, who believe that the solution would be than to ban all religious books, well, they are stupid beyond belief.
Because it is not what is in those books that makes people bad, but it is the other way around: it is about bad people who are trying to find justification for their unjustifiable deeds as they are not willing to blame themselves as that will hurt their self-image. That is the root cause of the wars in the Middle East, and its justification in one sentence.
Without religious books, bad people will rationalize their deeds for the love of their country, fellow citizens, or whatever as long as they do not have to look at themselves in the mirror. Plenty of possibilities to do that, which all can be categorized under Sartre’s philosophy: ‘Bad Faith, condemned to be free’.
So there is the problem. And for the solution you really do not have to bomb places like Chechnya to make Grozny ‘booming’ again and so on and so forth. What you need is a mirror and the courage to look straight into it.
And learn from regret.
I would say you’re almost to the actual conclusion. The attackers in Europe and the US are not staples of a general religious population, but mentally unfit actors that fall into a archetypical character type.
Think about it like this… What are the chances England, Germany, Japan, France, the US would be hit by 1-2 deranged fanatics in the spat of a few months? Why now? Why does each character have a common archetypical background? Why no women? Why does the usual MSM story not make any sense when compared to facts on the ground, eye witness testimonies, or rely on far-fetched “passport discoveries” at the scene of the crime? Why can’t the US “defeat” ISIS after toppling multiple countries armed forces in less time? When will the American people wake up?
The Saker said it without saying it explicitly. This is pure cover for the continuation of Syrian “bombing” missions which is simply a continuation of an economic-geopolitical struggle with Eurasia and the AngloZionists.
For all intents and purposes they don’t care if the theatre makes sense. They are more focused on preparation for a conflict. This personally freaks me out as I no longer can tell how serious they are or if its a grand bluff. Think about it like this: mass space travel to outside the planted will soon be possible… allowing the 1% to not be present in the case of a nuclear exchange.
The US didn’t invade Iraq because the US is beholden to Israel as some suggest. The US invaded because it helped a local ally while advancing a leg of its grand strategy that culminates in the removal of Chinese and Russian sovereignty. Oh and we get to rationalize disproportionate funds to the MIC.
Actually, American society has been producing a steady stream of crazy mass-killers for quite some time now. And the incidents have been coming quicker and quicker on the heels of the previous. Usually the attackers are just portrayed as ‘crazy’. Although the kid in Germany and who’d been bullied all through school and had turned to studying mass killers in his mind bore a very eeiry resemblance to the typical American mass-murderer. The only thing that was different with the Orlando attack was that the attacker claimed to be Muslim and that this was the reason for the attack. This was the first story out of the propaganda system at least. But like usual, it turned out to be typically full of holes. And the attacker did fit the pattern of people who claim to be devoted Muslims but who really acted like just the opposite. Then again, I grew up in the American South and I’m definitely familiar with lots of people who claimed to be devoted Christians and then did just the opposite all the time, so I’m not sure how rare that sort of behavior really is.
I agree. People may misuse religion, power or anything else to further their own agendas. That only means their understanding of this world and why they are here is self-serving
At the end of the day Muslims understand that The Creator knows what everyone reveals and what everyone conceals and that there is a Judgement to come and conduct which is approved on which the Judgement will be based.
On this basis…
Daesh has nothing to do with Islam.
And no amount of self-delusion can disguise their cruel brutal self-glorifying acts of ignorance as being righteous in any interpretation of Islam.
These acts are inconsistent with the recorded and developed legal principles of Islam. Neither are they a reliving of any historical period in Islam nor a lived expression of anything that had existed before.
They are something new … A virus injected by the West into the body of Islam but thoroughly and comprehensively rejected by the main body of Muslims. The problem is that they continue to exist because they have been given their thrones, money and armies by the West to keep injecting their poison into Islam.
But Muslims also understand that this is a testing ground to see who’s who, and ultimately power and money and even suffering are an irrelevant temporary inconvenience … It is choices deeds and words that are eternal.
Essentially the West(Germano Romans as Nikolai Trubetzkoy called this civilization, I call it Carolingian) produces unrooted inidividuals, who, because of they can’t fall back on some sort of ethnic-religious community, become radicalized into ultra religious and/or collectivist types. Once radicalized they feel like they must take it out their frustrations on consumerist western society(the Anglosphere and especially the US being extreme cases. In my opinion the US is so odd because it sits, ideologically, between British Whiggism and French Jacobinism. I think that is the cause of US bipolarity).
In todays muslim world there really isn’t a Caliphate, only pretend ones like ISIS or Saudi Arabia; the real “Caliphate” is centered in Washington. This Caliphate is a capitalist oligarchy and it uses extreme versions of Islam for its goals.
It is true that Islam varies, but why does it vary? I think most ideologies will sooner or later vary because of the different “national” characters of different populations. By national I don’t refer to modern nation states but to ethnic-cultural nations. These invisible, but very real, divisions are the causes of wars and therefore of progress. Progress being nothing more than personal and/or collective intelligence being pressured to find solutions for survival.
I believe that this current conflict between the US and Russia has a geneology going back centuries if not millenia. It was not planned but because of the diffetences among nations, it has unfolded like this.
I’ve gone off track but Saker you are right that the west(Carolingia) its current Anglo dominated phase is just using extreme versions of Islam for its goals.
Thank you for this intelligent, level-headed, and clarifying article. Many things to praise about it. I appreciated very much how you point out that the idea that the US was responsible for “defeating the Soviets” in Afghanistan is wrong. It is remarkable how many unhinged and fanatical types have affected US policies–Dulles, Brzezinski, and others. And look at types like Breedlove.
Great summarizing point: “Russia will fare much better, not only because her security services and special forces now have a total of 35+ years worth of experience dealing with the Takfiri crazies, but also because she can count on her Muslim population to be at the forefront of the defense of the Russian state and of true Islam. In contrast, the AngloZionist West has managed to alienate most Muslims and can only count on its Israeli patrons for help (with friends like these who needs enemies anyway?).”
Saker, removed I have no doubt that in this particular day and age it is the Wahhabi strand of Islam that is the main threat and i salute those Muslims both Shia and Muslim opposing it and yes we should help them in their quest against this genocidal ideology and its sponsors (including the USA) . However throughout history it cannot be denied that Islamic supremacism and imperialism are also a matter of Fact. The first crusade done by those who you deride as Papist crusaders was not a war of expansion but rather a defensive war – a reaction to 400 years of extremely aggressive Islamic expansion (do you actually know that Islamic armies were first defeated at Tours in 732 – how did they get that far if not by an unprovoked urge to conquer and convert by the sword?) – as I was saying the first crusade (and that in parallel with the Reconquista of spain was a defensive war against Islamic Imperialism) was set in motion after a plea from Alexius I Comnenus the Byzantine and Orthodox emperor for help from the west – and this after the islamists of their time had already dismantled the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, attacked pilgrims at will and were also threatening the Byzantine Capital. Were the ottomans not imperialistic and expansionist? and did they not use Islam as their ideology for conquest? What happened in the Hindu Kush? were the natives of India somehow threatening to the Islamic conquerors? It is a matter of Historical Fact that the friction with Islam started because it was the latter that sought domination. We seem to forget that the entire middle east and North Africa was Christian. What happened to it? You paint with a wide brush – which an analyst of your pretensions should always refrain from doing so – but you just cannot help being a victim to your own ideological bias – and that is a pity because otherwise you offer much of value which is why i keep visiting here. All but one of the turkish-Russian wars occurred after 1650, at a time when the Ottoman empire was in decline, its energy sapped by constant warfare with the ‘papist crusaders’.. if it were not for the constant resistance put up by the latter who knows what might have happened to Russia and Orthodoxy? Let us use history to learn from it – and not to keep on beating each other with it – we will never get anywhere. History like climatic events is very complex and never as simplistic as you make it. I respect all cultures, even the Islamic ones – but let us not portray one as all good and the other all evil as the ‘Anglo-zionists’ want to do today. And for your information, for the titanic and real struggle for survival with Islam do not look at the Anglo-zionists or any of the northern countries – it was in the Mediterranean and its littoral that you should look to, to the countries such as Italy and Spain. the Anglo-zionists do not even know what it means to live in constant fear of their countries falling victim to Islamic imperialism. And yet for us who live here in the South, having crossed swords with Islam over entire centuries, we respect them in a way that the northerners will never understand and wish them well as long as they stick to their own dominions, dominions they have acquired by conquest.
Please stop using capitals – its like shouting.Mod
No matter how biased you are, islam came to rectify the distortions of one true religion of one true God Allmighty and to defend and reaffirm Jesus the Christ, son of Mary, true prophet of God and true Messiah, peace and blessings be upon him and his blessed virgin mother.
Thanks Saker. Your description of the type of people selected for entrapment is well illustrated by the Canadian case where John Nuttall and his partner Amanda Korody were accused of planting pressure cooker bombs in 2013. Living on welfare and taking methadone for heroin addiction, the couple, who had converted to Islam a couple of years before, were the perfect patsies. While a jury found them guilty at trial the judge later overruled the decision on the grounds of entrapment by the RCMP. What was interesting is that thanks to a very fine and brave judge all the details of the police sting came out. Here is a link to a good summary of the case: http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=9862
Secondly, I believe that the whole refugee “invasion” of Europe was planned well in advance. Knowing full well that a good number of Takfiris would melt into the wave of immigrants, chaos fear and anger could just about be guaranteed. Then little Israel could say “now you know what we have to deal with.”
Astonishing. Hints of institutional acknowledgement of the rotten practices of state “anti”-terrorism units.
Thank you The Saker for this very timely analysis. Like many of the commentators here, the Muslims I know don’t relate to the Wahabi crazies running amok in the Middle East and Europe.
Brilliant! Thank you Saker!
One slight correction. The Wahhabists really took off following the 1970’s oil price shock and US scam to make Saudis trade oil for USD only. The country was suddenly awash with USD and some of this was passed on to Wahhabist teaching centers. This led to a dramatic increase in Wahhabist teaching. It is not clear if this was an intended consequence of the US action (by Kissinger et al.)
Milosevic has been cleared of all charges by Yuogslav Tribunal – 10 years too late.
All the ‘Butcher of the Balkans’ bs has been clearly shown to be NATO sponsored bs propagated by so-called ‘journalists’. Damn those fsckers to hell as they are still presstituting themselves for war with Russia.
https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/08/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/
Very well explained, above all the part when you explain how Wahhabism become a global phenomenon instead of the local phenomenon it was until the 80es thanks to USA and KSA.
To supplement your point about how ‘terror attacks’ are presented in the western mass media, let me describe the three ‘attacks’ that struck closest to me. And how they were presented in the mass media.
The most recent was when a gunman walked into a shopping mall and started shooting people. Both in one of the locations within the mall, and also out into the parking lot. In the end, three people were dead, and nine others wounded. The attacker had a clearly stated religious and political motive for the attack. However, this attack was never called terrorism by officials or the media.
This attack was on a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs, which provides services to women like abortions, counseling and contraception. The attacker was a crazy, radicalized right-wing Christian.
The attack was never called terrorism. This began quickly at a press conference with law enforcement shortly after the shooter was ‘secured’. A reporter asked, I believe to the US Attorney for the region, if the attack was a terrorist attack, and the person hemmed and hawed and danced around the answer and refused to call it terrorism. The person had strong religious and political views that he directly stated as the region for the murders, but its not terrorism. Presumably the fact that the killer was right-wing and a Christian was the reason for this.
Since the attack was not called terrorism, the media and officials also avoided a discussion about just how this deliberate and cold-blooded killer got ‘radicalized’. In the US, a discussion about who openly calls abortion to be ‘murder’ and who treads close to the line of saying that something needs to be done about these murderers in places like Planned Parenthood clinic would quickly lead to members of Congress and a few Presidential nomination seekers, as well as a slice of the right-wing fundamentalist versions of Christianity. Instead, the media just never had the discussion, and the attack has been quickly forgotten. The San Bernadino shootings happened about a week later, and even a google search will show that the Colorado Springs shootings were quickly forgotten and dismissed. After all, we can’t be talking about violent right-wing Christian fundamentalists and the danger they pose to random people at a shopping mall.
The other attack that happened near me was the crazy, apparently over-medicaded dude who shot up a packed movie theater on the night of a summer-time premier of a blockbuster movie. 12 dead, and many wounded at the theaters (plural because some bullets went through the thin walls between theaters and hit people next door). Most chilling to me was that this guy left his apartment with the stereo blasting and the front door unlocked but booby trapped. Thus, he was willing to kill or maim anyone who uncautiously pushed that door open to check on the noise, and the explosives there might have leveled the whole building.
This attacker expressed no political or religious motives for the killing, and has since just said he was insane at the time. But, the interesting part to me is that the attack overall isn’t too far distant from the sort of breakdowns that are labeled ‘terror’ attacks in the media. If the attacker had been a Muslim, and an imigrant, then one could easily see the attack being labeled a terror attack. But, since he was a white, middle to upper class American studying for advanced degrees at a college, he’s simply crazy and not at all lumped in with the other mass killings that while otherwise similar are instead called terror attacks committed by crazy people who happen to be Muslims and from somewhere else.
The third attack is the terrorist who got closest to killing me. Since its the Olympic season, I can’t help but remember the bomb that was set off at the Atlanta Olympics in 1996. Turned out, I’d been standing in that exact spot only 24 hours before. Again, the attacker was a crazy, right-wing fundamentalist Christian who’d been radicalized over the issue of abortion.
I saw that the US spies were helping with security in Rio. In that case, they can be expected to completely miss the attack and the attacker before it happens because they are looking for the wrong people. A crazy, right-wing, radicalized, fundamentalist Christian just isn’t on their radar. It wasn’t in 1996 and it likely isn’t now. The US spies and police compounded their ignorance by instead quickly blaming the attack on a security guard who was nearby, and who’d actually saved lives by spotting the back-pack bomb and moving people away from it before it exploded. I don’t know where this guy is 20 years later, but at the time his life was pretty much ruined and his name visciously smeared by the US police and spy agencies who mistakenly accused him of being the bomber, and of course by the corporate media that willing printed and covered their lies and unfounded accusations.
This bomber went on to strike two more times in the Atlanta area, each time striking religiously motivated targets such as a gay and lesbian bar and another Planned Parenthood clinic. But, you’ll never hear the name Eric Rudolph nor the Atlanta Olympic bombings mentioned as a part of the wave of religiously motivated terror attacks by radicalized people.
And, the US police and spies were clueless when it came to preventing even the later bombings of this series of attacks. When the attacker is right-wing and Christian, suddenly the US police become the Keystone cops in terms of effectiveness in trying to catch and stop the person. They did finally catch him, a couple of years after he’d stopped committing the bombings, apparently of his own accord.
Simply brilliant.
Here, read this :
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/debunking-the-suicide-for-72-virgins-myth/
Before going further : always the same prejudices about Crusades and who did violences between Catholics and Orthodoxes…
I admit readily you don’t have time to study medieval history, it is not your area and with your job plus The Saker plus your family (which I feel somehow guilty, as a reader, to disturb so much), it cannot even be a hobby.
But please, stop your catho-bashing on false pretenses, you are just highlighting every time how much you have been brainwashed by an Orthodox culture which hence appears as hateful.
I have been brainwashed (by ideologized French public school) against Catholicism, and feel so lucky of having been able to go farther; but I can tell you that not only the “conciliarist Catholic church” (which teaches no hate, particularly for sin in general…) but also all what I read later of really Catholic writing, have any hate against Orthodoxy…
So, on what side is the problem? Is not it on the side of those who kept pretending a Catholic could not be a good subject and had to be persecuted, and hold on defaming the Catholics as you show so often?
Nevertheless, I am very grateful for your site and your dedication, and wish you the best health, and the best news to announce… ;-)
This essay should be taught in all the schools colleges and universities of the world. Especially to all the truth seekers this is a must read. Especially when the writer is a non Muslim!
General jean bernard pinatel, french retired general, has constructive comments regarding europanizing of nato, cooperating with russia and the failure (desired) of the fight against terrorism!! In LeFigaro a good right wing rag. A point often conveniently overlooked in criticizing Front National is their dislike of present NATO and the IMF..voila mes enfants, ca bouge !!
French have never recovered from Indochine or loss of Algeria..Syria as Lebanon were also favorites for the frogs…whooops, pardon French. Our socialist comrade Hollande will need more than10000 euro a month haircuts to keep his hair on..meme sa tete sur ses epaules!!
Vive de Gaulle et vive la France Libre…
“In contrast, the AngloZionist West…can only count on its Israeli Patrons for help ….”
“I believe the US is a colony of Israel.” (Saker, podcast 2)
the same stupidity, over and over again.
The feeding of Wahhabism and its dirty child Daesh by USA – the hypocrite “land of the free” fostering a system that kills innocent people, keeps slaves and imprisons women – in fact IS an attack on the whole of Islam.
the aim is to conveince everyone that no better Islam is possible than this one, in order to make forget the high culture and deep wisdom that developed on the ground of Muhammad´s path, in order to make the remedies against many human problems that lie in this system ineffective or even poisonous.
why do so? To remove alternatives to Mammonism, which is the true “faith” of USA.
Catholic Church has been submitted, during last 100 years, to a similar process, with the same aim, albeit in a more hidden and less bloody way.
The old Catholic dogma, too, contains eternal truths – mixed with destructive elements of error and superstition, as it is in all existing religions, but invaluable nonetheless.
Now, the nonbelieving rich people of Europe and North America during the time of late 18th to early 20th century, objected to the Church´s authority and tried to overcome it,
not really for its acts of cruelty and its spreading of fear among normal people by superstitious invented doctrines,
(this altruistic raison d´étre of opposition to the church often heard from “Voltairians” never was or is true in those who LED the anti-church movement, only in the goodwilled smaller followers who have no deep insight, who dont see cruelty is an ubiquitous disease…)
but because they desired the church´s riches and resented criticism of their lifestyle of luxury by the church. As early as in the beginning of 19th century, Prussian State made use of anti-catholic argumentation to allow itself to confiscate Catholic Church´s riches and monastery buildings. The propaganda for this measure was about reason vs superstition and humanity vs cruelty, but in fact the whole thing was about money, and the Prussian army financed by this mega-robbery, as everybody knows, was no less cruel to its novices as the strictest Jesuits.
many of the rich of Europe and USA organized in Freemason lodges … to change public opinion and governmental ideology.
This process of ideological struggle ran on for generations outside the Church only.
It first showed consequences within Catholic church hierarchy itself at the beginning of 20th century when so-called Modernism arose, which demanded to adapt Catholic dogma to modern scientific recognitions.
This is an idea that sounded really good at those past times, but nowadays must show its hollowness to every sane mind, at least to everyone who knows a little bit about the history of Sciences. From the stand-point of our time, the primitivity of 19th century sciences is clearly seen… and from that of 22th century OUR scientific absurdities will lie open… so fast changes Science, and so imperfect it is and must always be by its very nature… how can Man, then, come to the idea to adapt religious dogma to such a windy thing?
well, Pope Pius the Tenth, who reigned from 1905 to 1915, was confronted with this demand of adapting Faith to Science and reacted quite correctly, rejecting this idea as an absurdity and forbidding priests to follow it…
for this decision he has been derided, as an “idiot”, and hated, as the founder of a Stasi like control institution for priests, till now, even within Church…
I did so too, when I was younger, but now I see this hate is not justified… what else should he have done? Can any Pope let the tradition of his church, which is like precious old wine, get mixed with water?
The “stasi” methods of this Pope, you must know, kept Church together till end of WWII, and it was the OLD Catholic dogma, which he thus protected, that made many, many Europeans who lived during the cursed years between 1918 and 1945 resistant both to Marxism and Nazism, up to active resistance, eve up to sacrificing their lives… see, how precious it really is!
But what happened after the horrors of WWII? Second Vatican Council. Called in by a good pope who desired peace, who tried to prevent a repetition of the WWII apocalypse, it changed into a process of watering and thinning Catholic wine.
Many decisions of VCII were good, removing unbiblical superstitions,
but among them was one horrible, deadly mistake – the “modernization” of Mass ritual!
By this change, the White Magic of Mass was weakened so much
that from this time the ideological and spiritual strength of Catholic Church went down and down and down, and still does.
And the Freemasons – who know more than a bit about Magic and knew very well what had been done by this change – exulted about their victory, and still do.
The result: Modern Catholic faith practice, at least in Europe and partially in USA, won´t be able to give anyone the strength to resist to (Mammonist, Nazi, Marxist, Mafia or whatever) injustice and sin in private and political life. It rather supports our daily slavery for money!
And those who still desire a religion with full powers and cling to the OLD Mass ritual get derided and belittled. “Fanaticism” is the insult they have to hear and fear every day.
See, what “they” are tyring to do to Islam ? First make this tiger rabid and then catch it, narcotize it and extract its teeth… as they pulled the Catholic Winged Lion´s teeth before.
The only big animal with teeth, they think, should be the Money dragon.
Well, it will eat them alive.
Bon appetit!
Once again, saker, hehe, its getting simply boring but never the less this have to be read, and I know a lot of you, will choke on their coffy reading this about Christian religion, and where its about Jews.
And Khazars.
Like the “norce”, whom are basicly Bulgar Khazars, Odin is a Turkish/Caucasian diety, and isnt Nordic what so ever, this “viking” nonsense is just that, bollocs an mass.
I dont know how and with what, the sky high level of ignorance is becomed, this stupidity must be intended or if not, then we all have a massive problem, since basicly most debatants either isnt knowledgable or have flushed whats left of wisdom down the toilet.
The “ugly” truth about Islam and Christianity regarding Jesus and the so called Jews.
And of course, the even more “horrible” truth about Muhammad.
Hehe, this is it, and from Muhammad him self.
About Chistians and the followers of the Book, the Hebrews, must not be confused with the fake “jews” posing as Hebrews.
http://thehigherlearning.com/2014/08/16/did-you-know-muhammad-wrote-a-letter-guaranteeing-the-protection-of-christians/
And then this, Facts are Facts and I have to this date not seen anyone debunking or countering this, from B. Freedman.
http://benjaminhfreedman.blogspot.no/2008/01/freedman-jesus-was-not-jew.html
and this.
The “jjews”. Facts are facts by B. Freedman.
From Rense, a site I dont bother to visit, but this popped up first.
http://rense.com/general47/facys.htm
Enjoy, and may the lord have mercy upon us all, because the war is coming.
peace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi#Persons_claiming_to_be_the_Mahdi
Muhammad Ahmad was a particular problem the British had to deal with……The broad thrust of his teaching followed that of other reformers, his Islam was one devoted to the words of Muhammad and based on a return to the virtues of strict devotion, prayer, and simplicity as laid down in the Qur’an. Any deviation from the Qur’an was therefore heresy.”
“With Sudan now in Sudanese hands, the Mahdi formed a government. The Mahdiyya (Mahdist regime) modified the Shariah (Islamic law), which would be implemented by Islamic courts headed by various Islamic imams, in accordance with the view of an Islamic state. The courts enforced a Sharia law that the Mahdi claimed was founded on instructions conveyed to him by God in visions.”
I almost totally agree with the Saker.I am a traditionnal Tunisian Muslim and I confirm that wahabism/salafism/takfirism and the the Brotherhood Sect are a deadly danger for the Muslim World and the whole World.The problem is my little country has not the means to counter the wahabi saoudi virus supported by USA,Zionistan…
By the way,I would like to thank the Saker for his great job,his brilliant analyses and his integrity.At least there are some decent people in the USA.
Aziz from Tunis.
The “gift” of Clarity enables one to See far beyond the quibbles of ignorance. A very precise and poignant article, thank you Saker
This article, when mention the topic of Bosnia is full of false facts and arguments. Mostly taken from serbian propaganda. So from year 1992 to year 1995:
1. During war in Bosnia, Serbia and Montenegro (than FRY) invaded Bosnia with troops of former YPA. They provided arms, ammo, officers and their salaries to the bosnian serb army.Former Yugoslav People Army was than 4th or 5 th by manpower in Europe. This was from the East.
2. From West, Croatia supported bosnian croats the same way. Therefore Bosnia was encircled, and is today with hostile neighbours.
3. Legal Bosnian government was left without arms or any support form West or NATO. As a matter Muslims of Bosnia were left to genocide by Serbs and Croats. All proved with ease.
4. Through Croatia, in 1993 (during the peak of Croatian aggression to Bosnia) cca 500-600 mujahedeen are being let through the croatian territory to BiH. 500 persons make small difference in military terms.
5. Serbs and Croats were saved by Dayton peace accord. Other they would be defeated.
6. This is not first time saker is using flase information on war in Bosnia, understandably trying to defend his ortodox brethen from Serbia by using false facts and spinning the truth. Why? If you are trying to write a fair and honest analysis. Or you are not?
Btw, since you did not notice, serbs and their values are totally upside-down to russians (just look at serbian national flag for a start)..
/excellent and informative
Wahabism, Salafism has been vigorously promoted by anglo-zionists as an anti-commie and anti-iran tool and also to lap up to the Saudis and their crude oil wealth. The west is promoting and opposing Salafists simultaneously mostly with arab crude wealth. This unholy strategy will lead to western systemic collapse. On the other hand the muslims already stand destroyed as a result of the triple anglo-israeli and salafist onslaught.
Brilliant analysis, thank you!
The only thing that can stop the Anglo Zionist Empire is obviously actual information to the 500 million Europeans…as they then will past on to the rest of 7 billion of us. The US ambassador the CIA had assassinated by it’s rebels by using Hilary’s bathroom internet server which they set up. “Rebels” got the date, time and place the ambassador would be killable and did it. He knew too much and was about to tell everybody.That the Empire was starting to massacre the several billion they needed erased from the total 7 billion humans. The human identity change that is already in process by using insane or obediently passive US placed EU leaders like Barosso, Sarkozy.
I, in Netherlands am not safe, my youngest son already assassinated, my elder under ‘no-fly’ cannot leave US and move to me in Europe. May kill him too, he knows what I know. The Dutch with good jobs still are terrified obedient and dare nothing. With Erodpgan facts are shifting globally though. Me, am 80 yrs.
And here’s another one. From a time when Canada’s PM and family just happened to be “vacationing” at a remote part of Vancouver Island. Was there a threat issued?
http://globalnews.ca/news/2890098/rcmp-investigating-peterborough-plane-crash-as-national-security-issue/