I have to confess that my first reaction was to simply ignore this report as an irrelevant load of nonsense. Then I listened to a Ukrainian blogger, Anatoli Sharii, making fun of this report for over 10 minutes. Listening to him my first reaction was “can’t be – Sharii is in overkill mode”. But then Sharii began quoting the report at length and I simply could not believe my eyes (I reading the original English text which Sharii had translated into Russian): every word Sharii said was true. That’s when I decided to download this document and read it. Here it is embedded for you to read. Please do read the full text. It is absolutely amazing:
Before we go into the details, I also recommend that you go through the following two examples of how the US corporate media “helpfully” provided their readers with a “guide” to better understand/interpret this report:
CNN: 10 most damning findings from report on Russian election interference
VOX: The key findings from the US intelligence report on the Russia hack, decoded
Again, even if it is painful, I recommend that you read the full text of the “guides” provided by these media outlets.
Now let’s turn to the contents.
First, remember what the stated goal of this report was: to convince President-Elect Donald Trump that the Russians had actively interfered in the US Presidential election. Since Donald Trump openly and repeatedly expressed his deepest skepticism about this entire issue, this report is the best the Neocons got to try to make him change his mind.
Second, there is this key sentence in the first page of the report: “while the conclusions in the report are all reflected in the classified assessment, the declassified report does not and cannot include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence and sources and methods“. Translated in plain English it means this: “while we cannot tell you exactly how we know what we know, lest the bad guys find out about a super-secret intelligence gathering methods, we promise you that the conclusions made public today are supported by our research. In other words, while “sources and methods” are kept secret, the conclusions made public do faithfully summarize our findings. In even simpler words we could say “our conclusions are exhaustive, there are no other findings kept secret, only our methods and means have been classified”. Basically this means that, this is all the Neocons got.
So what does the report say:
- The Russians were critical of the US democracy process (page ii)
- Putin & Co preferred Trump over Clinton (page ii)
- The Russian media (state and private) was critical of Clinton (page ii)
- The Russian military intelligence agency GRU is behind well know hackers (page ii and iii)
- The Russians obtained access to US electoral boards but that did not affect the vote count (page iii)
- The Russians will use that experience in the future against US allies (page iii)
That’s it. Seriously. That’s all they got. The rest of the report is just a kind of vague discussion filled with “we assess”, “we believe” and other such “estimative language” (explained on page 13 of the report). The most amazing thing is that in the 25 pages of the report there is not ONE SINGLE ELEMENT OF PROOF. Absolutely nothing. What we have are what I can only call “political complaints” (points 1 through 3 above) and a totally unsubstantiated allegation of illegal monitoring of various US servers/networks/computers. And that, my friends, is absolutely stunning. Why? Because in the first instance, the US intel agencies are complaining that the Russians are using their God given right to express their opinions and preferences and while in the second instance the US complains that Russia is doing exactly that which the biggest US intel agency – the NSA – has been officially (and secretively) created to do: monitor others.
About half the report is basically a long, paranoid rant about how effective RT and Sputnik are and how popular they have become in the West. Seriously, they are trying to convince Trump that the Russians are bad bad bad by saying that RT has good talkshows! This simply blows my mind.
As for whether the GRU is in any way linked to Guccifer or DCLeaks.com – this is plain laughable and they might as well claim that the Martian intelligence services are linked to Wikileaks or that Russian time-travel machines were involved in the assassination of JFK. Frankly, this is as lame as it is pathetic.
I don’t know what Trump was thinking when he listened to this load of bovine excreta, but I know that had I been in his position I would have literally kicked the folks presenting this report down the stairs of my house and that I would have immediately fired all the persons and offices linked to the drafting of this text. Why?
Because as somebody who wrote analytical reports himself, I know that this report is so bad and vague that it would have been unacceptable even coming from a first year junior analyst, nevermind top intelligence officials. Second, because this report contains absolutely no actionable intelligence whatsoever. So the Russians don’t like Hillary and they say so. What’s the big deal? Hillary was the most incompetent and russophobic Secretary of State in US history and had she been elected, the risks of thermonuclear war would have been immense. Does it really surprise anybody that most Russians (including yours truly) absolutely hate, despise and fear her? What is Trump supposed to do now: call Putin and tell him “Vladimir, please tell RT not to criticize US public figures?!”. And what was Trump supposed to answer if Putin replied to him “Donald, the USA has been deeply interfering inside Russia, you ran our country in the 1990s, you rigged our elections, your snipers shot our people from the roof of your embassy in 1993 and your media has been demonizing me personally for years now – and you want me to tone down RT?!”
The good news is that Trump did the right thing: he ridiculed this absolutely laughable report and reiterated his desire for a good relationship with Russia:
However, this should not be the end of the story. Not only is this report a botched and pathetic attempt at serving the narrow political interests of the Neocons, it is also an immense stain on the already battered reputation of the US intelligence community. We already had Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons, we already had the zig-zaging nonsense about the Iranian military nuclear program, and now we have this Kindergarten level direct interference in internal US politics. If the USA was some kind of tiny and irrelevant country like, say, Estonia, that would be no big deal. But when the US taxpayer spends many billions to fund not one, not two or three, but 16 intelligence agencies and all they can produce is this kind of total crap, this is a problem. A problem made worse by the fact that this kind of “intelligence” is what the President will use to have to make critical decisions, including the one to go to war or even to use nuclear weapons.
So funny as this all is, this is also scary. It appears that the US intelligence community has been so totally politicized that it is unable to fulfill its most important task: inform US decision makers.
Yet again I come to the same conclusion: Trump needs to crack down hard, very hard, on the US intelligence community, especially the CIA. The entire community must be reformed and dramatically reduced in size. In intelligence matters, bigger is not better, and a bloated immense intelligence community of 16 agencies is something not a single country in history has ever tried. This is not only a total waste of resources, this is outright dangerous.
For years now, the Russians have been complaining about what they politely called the “lack of professionalism” of their US colleagues. No doubt that now they will openly begin to deplore the “lack of professionalism” of the US intelligence services. Why? Because Russia’s security very much depends on the US intelligence community truthfully and competently reporting about Russia to the US President. A competent US intel community would tell the President that Russia is no threat whatsoever and the working with Russia on the basis of healthy self-interest, basic common sense and mutual respect would be in the interest of both countries. But right now, the US intel community is only making matters worse, and that harms both the USA and Russia.
Trump should appoint somebody at the head of the FBI with “a cold head, a burning heart and clean hands” (to borrow the expression of Felix Dzerzhinskii) and order a massive crack-down on Congress, the US media and the US intelligence community. Just like Putin did it in Russia, and how the US dealt with the likes of Al Capone, he can probably get most of them on charges of corruption, obstruction of justice, fraud, abuse of power, criminal conspiracy to defraud, etc. Congress (which always felt above the law) and the intel community (which uses secrecy to hide corruption) should be especially vulnerable to such tactics.
For Trump and, I would argue, for the USA as a country, it is vital to purge the top levels of power from such incompetent and dishonorable clowns. Besides, they will not leave Trump alone nor will they give him a fair chance to prove himself. And the Neocons cannot be appeased, they always want more. Unless Trump takes immediate action against them as soon as he enters the White House, his Presidency will be doomed, as will the future of the USA.
The Saker
Thank you, Saker, for briefing us during your holidays! Not to distract from or muddy the subject, but investigative reporter Jon Rappoport sent out this article today:
“This is a Coup: the Homeland Security takeover of US Elections”
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/this-is-a-coup-the-homeland-security-takeover-of-us-elections/
This happened quietly on Friday, he says.
Amazing. So Just as Russia is set up as the bogeyman to justify Nato against European better instincts, it is now set up as the bogeyman to ensure intelligence agencies regain control over US politics. Surely Trump should have seen this coming.
The stupidity of the US “intelligence” community, is literally a threat to mankind.
These people are not stupid, they are well aware they are producing ” fake news”, although they are not intelligent either, they are just corrupt ops who depend on their salary for a living and sell their souls and conscience.
I agree completely with Saker’s analysis of this ludicrous and patently unprofessional report promulgated by what is supposed to be the top echelons of US Security Agencies. Saker is a bit more polite than I am and my thought after wasting an hour reading this bovine scatology was Whiskey Tango Foxtrot are these clowns thinking.
Here’s my take on what current US culture faces and I’ll be completely honest, US Culture and Country are in the midst of the most dangerous period of time since it’s founding and this danger is totally self inflicted. Readers may agree or disagree with my synopsis of current US Culture and that is your right, just as it’s my right to publicize my views.
This report is a disturbing picture but, sadly, indicative of the entire structure of US for the last two decades and more. The entire culture from top to bottom has been corrupted completely. Military has gone through numerous purges in that time, the latest couple years ago when a lot of the experienced company grade and lower field grade officers and NCO’s were summarily put out. Morale? What morale?
Society is gone, replaced by some fantasy ‘dream’ of equality for all. What a farce and bold faced lie, the proof of which was vividly shown in the aftermath of the election with all the screaming from the losers. They, my friends, are the current face of our culture as seen not only in country but more importantly from abroad.
It’s the little things, the old salami game wherein they cut off just a small piece of the sausage, not enough to even quibble about, but in the end all you’ve got left in your hand is the string and that’s not worth fighting over either. The steady erosion of culture has been extant and replete with minor aberrations that added together show what happened. For instance, you will never hear me refer to children as ‘kids’. A kid is the result of conjugal relations between two goats. A child is the result of two humans of different genders smiling at each other, so to speak. A ‘single mom’ is an unwed or widowed mother, not ‘single’ and not a ‘mom’, a mother with no husband. ‘Horizontally challenged’ means fat, not challenged. ‘Special needs’ means what? A special nail color to make them happy?
Think about it and look at what they’ve done to what was a vibrant, industrious and growing culture.
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Your comments nail the “medical condition” exactly.
Peace is anathema to the Deep State.
They care nothing of the nations of the world.
They loathe Russia.
They are terrified of Trump.
Their machinations have gone public. We don’t need a Commission or Hearing to uncover their plots and weapons.
The Deep State and Khazarian lunacy is in the white hot zone of death.
Putin has it laser lit. Trump has a finger on the weapon to destroy it.
When their communications connect, the vermin will be dusted.
Go to youtube. Search Where Is Eric Braverman? Go back to about “Day 60”, and the go forward in time. Today is day 79. When this SHTF, there will be civil war in America. All these players committed TREASON. There are Stinger missels and Saran gas spread all over the globe where ever ISIS is.
All the 675,000 emails on Anthony Weiners server are going to be published somewhere and soon. If not by the NYPD than by some other patriot. Major changes are coming starting January 20th 2017.
Cheers, Blondinka
I read somewhere online that the FBI seized the laptop from the NYPD when Comey reopened the investigation the week before the election, which some speculate is why Comey reopened the investigation, so the FBI controls the evidence, not the NYPD. N
Everythnig good, except our comment that “Trump has his laser lit”. I don’t trust Trump to do anything good, although I did vote for him, most of all after reading the comments from his appointees.I think he will be the next “worst president ever”.
I know — it’s worrying. The thought even crossed my mind that Hillary was set up to lose to get Trump in — that how paranoid I’ve become with everything wrapped in lies and manipulation. But maybe it won’t be as bad as it seems now and this talk really is get through the hearings Can’t tell until we see what happens, but I do expect a lot of bad things coming even if we avoid war.
What choice was there? These problems will not be solved with parties, elections, or ordinary politics in any case, and we will have to fight every battle one at a time, whack-a-mole, for the time being.
Well said! Bravo!
Yes, I fully agree as well. What we are witnessing, and this report is just emblematic of the whole process, is the dawn of “modernism”. The French historian Philippe Grasset (his blog dedefensa.org is a must if you understand French), has written about this extensively and place this process on what he calls a “metahistorical” level, i.e. a level that is both historical but somewhat beyond the human realm. Basically, “forces” beyond us have taken over the dynamic of history and the US, which happens to be the epicenter of the current chaos factory, is used by these “forces” to accelerate the downfall of modern civilization.
I am not a religious guy at all, but having read Grasset’s work (La Grâce de l’Histoire) and various other sources, it definitely feels that way. No matter the current human actors, this dynamic is somewhat beyond us. And the curious aspect of all this is that it had sort of been predicted thousands of years ago by ancient “wisemen” versed in the dynamics of time cycles and its effect on the degree of human morality / spirituality (for example, the Hindus call the current ending era the Kaliyuga, and I suggest curious readers to read this article : http://www.bibhudevmisra.com/2012/07/end-of-kali-yuga-in-2025-unraveling.html – this is truly fascinating, at least in a poetic kind of way, for it is describing on a metaphorical level what we are going through).
Sorry, I meant the DUSK, not the DAWN …
@ Armand de Louje:
Sorry – not buying the latest po-mo ‘explanation’ for what’s happening.
It’s simplw: the deceit and machinations of a transnational elite is being exposed – and all the actors at the heart of the chaos are scrambling to control the narrative. A narrative that no longer has auththenticity, much less ‘full spectrum dominance’.
That’s largely thanks to the net and, paradoxically, globalism – the very means by which the transnational elites hoped to control ‘the masses’ is proving to be a double-edged sword.
Two significant factors have emerged: the MSM is now no longer trusted or believed by a much wider public than before, and that in turn has led to increasing awareness that conflict is being orchestrated.
No forces are compelling any of this, any more than the mythical ‘forces’ of free market dogma. It’s entirely down to individuals in key locii of control (the media, mic, political parties, banksters).
And yes, we do collectively have the means to do something about it.
But first, treason must be reinstated as a grave crime against nation-states, and the actors abusing public trust brought to trial.
I detect the stirrings already.
Election inter fearing how about the Israeli Mossad diplomat caught on camera conspiring to “take down” UK politician?
So much for your Anglo / Zionist empire, theory Saker, when Mossad decides who is the PM and or a cabinet minister in the British government. Its even on video now!!! How can the evidence be any stronger?? Just like when Victoria Newland another Jew said Yats would be the PM of Ukrinae and he was a few weeks later. Jews are now superior to Anglos in Britain even under British law. If you don’t post this one Saker you are indeed a phony and everyone will know it soon enough. How about allowing my posting on how the Jewish supremacist master race, treats blacks and other racially inferior lower then animals Goyim in Israel, with the SOS racism videos?
So there it is official, Jews run the British government! Its even on video! Total news black out on it in our now Soviet once free western media.
If there were any honest courts left in Britain all these MPS and Jewish organizations would be arrested, tried and sent to jail as traitors.
Your Anglo Zionist empire term is like calling apartheid South Africa the “Africans Boer / Zu Lu black / empire”. When one group totally dominates all others with superior legal rights to all the others enshrined under the law, such an argument as yours is basically a joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUW5RMbR-3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFImn9HM2kk
http://www.globalresearch.ca/undercover-investigation-how-many-british-mps-are-working-for-israel/5567307
“Undercover Investigation”: How Many British MPs Are Working for Israel?
By Jonathan Cook
Global Research, January 09, 2017
Jonathan Cook 8 January 2017
Region: Europe, Middle East & North Africa
In-depth Report: PALESTINE
Al Jazeera are to be congratulated on an undercover investigation exposing something most of us could probably have guessed: that some Israeli embassy staff in the UK – let’s not pussy around, Mossad agents – are working with senior political activists and politicians in the Conservative and Labour parties to subvert their own parties from within, and skew British foreign policy so that it benefits Israeli, rather than British, interests.
One cannot really blame Israel for doing this. Most states promote their interests as best they can. But one can and should expose and shame the British politicians who are collaborating with Israel in further harming Britain’s representative democracy.
It is not as though these people cannot be easily identified. They even advertise what they are up to. They are members of the Conservative and Labour Friends of Israel. They dominate both parliamentary parties, but especially the Conservatives. According to the CFI’s figures, fully 80 per cent of Tory MPs belong to the party’s Friends of Israel group.
Once, no one would have hesitated to call British politicians acting in the interests of a foreign power, and very possibly taking financial benefits for doing so, “traitors”. And yet, as Al Jazeera’s secretly filmed footage shows, Israeli spies like Shai Masot can readily meet and conspire with a Tory minister’s much-trusted aide to discuss how best to “take down” the deputy foreign minister, Alan Duncan, over his criticisms of Israel’s illegal settlements in the occupied territories. Maria Strizzolo, education minister Robert Halfon’s assistant, suggests engineering a “little scandal” to damage Duncan.
Masot and Israel’s intelligence services cannot infuence British foreign policy through the opposition Labour party, but that doesn’t prevent them from also taking a keen interest in Labour MPs. Masot is filmed talking to Labour Friends of Israel’s chair, Joan Ryan, about “lots of money” – more than £1 million – he has received from the Israeli government to send yet another batch of Labour MPs on an all-expenses-paid trip to Israel, where they will be wined and dined, and primed by top officials to adopt even more extreme pro-Israel positions. LFI is known for sending the largest proportion of MPs to Israel on these kinds of trips.
Does that have an effect on British domestic politics. You bet it does! Israel isn’t a charity.
A large number of those who have been making Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s life a misery belong to Labour Friends of Israel. They are the same MPs who have been talking up an “anti-semitism crisis” in the Labour party – based on zero tangible evidence – since Corbyn became party leader. Were they following the dictates of their conscience? Did they really fear an anti-semitism plague had suddenly beset their party? Or were they playing deeply cynical politics to oust a leader who supports justice for the Palestinian people and is considered by Israel’s rightwing government, which has no interest in making peace with the Palestinians, to be bad news for Israel?
Al Jazeera’s investigation has not been shown yet, so we can rely only on the snippets released so far, either by Al Jazeera itself or additional leaks of the investigation provided by the Mail on Sunday.
It is worth listening to a Tory minister in the government of recently departed David Cameron, who writes anonymously in the Mail on Sunday. S/he warns of a double whammy to British politics caused by Israel and its British partisans – one that is starting to approach the damage done to the US political system by Israel.
The British government skews its foreign policy to avoid upsetting Jewish donors, s/he says. MPs, meanwhile, act like agents of a foreign power – s/he generously assumes unwittingly – rather than representatives of the British people. Forget international law, these politicians are not even promoting British interests.
Here is what the minister writes:
British foreign policy is in hock to Israeli influence at the heart of our politics, and those in authority have ignored what is going on.
For years the CFI and Labour Friends of Israel (LFI), have worked with – even for – the Israeli government and their London embassy to promote Israeli policy and thwart UK Government policy and the actions of Ministers who try to defend Palestinian rights.
Lots of countries try to force their views on others, but what is scandalous in the UK is that instead of resisting it, successive Governments have submitted to it, taken donors’ money, and allowed Israeli influence-peddling to shape policy and even determine the fate of Ministers.
Even now, if I were to reveal who I am, I would be subjected to a relentless barrage of abuse and character assassination. …
It now seems clear people in the Conservative and Labour Parties have been working with the Israeli embassy, which has used them to demonise and trash MPs who criticise Israel; an army of Israel’s useful idiots in Parliament.
This is politically corrupt, and diplomatically indefensible. The conduct of certain MPs needs to be exposed as the poisonous and deceitful infiltration of our politics by the unwitting agents of another country …
We need a full inquiry into the Israeli Embassy, the links, access and funding of the CFI and LFI.
It is rare that I agree with a Tory government minister, but such an inquiry cannot come too soon.
Note too that it is an indictment of the UK media that Al-Jazeera, rather than the British fourth estate, has exposed Israel’s moves to subvert the British political system. It is not as though reporters from the BBC, Guardian, Times and the Mail haven’t had ministers like the one above complaining to them for years about interference from Israel. So why did they not long ago send in undercover teams to expose this collusion between Israel and British MPs?
We have had weeks of stories about the supposed efforts of Russia and Putin to subvert the US election, without a hint yet of any evidence, and based on a central allegation against the Russians that they compromised the election result by releasing truthful information about wrongdoing in the Democratic party. Russian diplomats have been expelled based on these evidence-free claims, and President Obama has vowed to take other, covert action against Russia.
Here we have documented evidence of the Israeli government secretly plotting with “friendly” British MPs to oust a British government minister. If that isn’t interference in the British political system I don’t know what is. Will we similarly have weeks of coverage of this story in the UK media, or will it be quickly filed away and forgotten?
And will any action beyond the removal of Masot be demanded by the British government? It seems unlikely. The Foreign Office has already issued a statement saying that, following Masot’s dismissal, it considers the matter closed.
The original source of this article is Jonathan Cook
Copyright © Jonathan Cook, Jonathan Cook, 2017
Hot off the press: Israel plot to ‘take down’ Tory minister:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2017/1/8/hot-off-the-press-israel-plot-to-take-down-tory-minister
January 08, 2017 / Gilad Atzmon
Both The Daily Mail and The Guardian are reporting tonight that an Israeli embassy official has been caught on camera in an undercover sting plotting to “take down” members of the British parliament regarded as hostile, including the Foreign Office minister Sir Alan Duncan – an outspoken supporter of Palestinian statehood.
In the video Shai Masot, who describes himself as an ‘officer in the IDF’ was recorded in conversation about a hit list of British MPs.
Many commentators including yours truly have been arguing for years that the Israeli Lobby is a disaster in our midst. Tonight the Brits can witness for themselves the level of Mossad interference in British politics.
If British Jews are really concerned about Anti Semitism maybe they should consider how to disassociate themselves from the Jewish State.
Jewish Power is now British Law – It’s Official!
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/12/13/jewish-power-is-now-british-law-its-official
December 13, 2016 / Gilad Atzmon
By Gilad Atzmon
For years I have argued that Jewish power is the power to silence criticism of Jewish Power. Now, UK Prime Minister Theresa May has confirmed that my observation is spot on.
PM May has decided to accept the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism and to integrate it into British law.
According to the IHRA, “antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”
Pretty lazy definition I’d say. Substitute the word ‘antisemitism’ with ‘bigotry’ and the word ‘Jews’ with ‘one people’ and you end up with a reasonably good definition of hatred itself. But our Theresa thinks Jews deserve special protection. And why? Because although in Britain, as in the USA, Germany and France everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, Jews are somehow more equal than others.
Sir Eric Pickles, government envoy for ‘post-Holocaust issue’s, is also committed to the Jews and the primacy of their suffering, so much so that he has morphed into a giant gefilte fish. As Pickles told the BBC, the new definition “catches up with modern antisemitism”. It was, he said, “important not to conflate Jewish people with Israel.”
I couldn’t agree more. We should never conflate Jews with Israel. First, Jews are wonderfully, innocent, peace loving people – except perhaps the 14 million or so of them who support Israel and give the entire tribe a bad name – and second, it would be an absurd to ignore the five or so Jews who oppose Israel and truly support Palestine. Maybe Pickles should use his position and influence to lobby the Israeli government to stop defining Israel as the “Jewish state” – now, wouldn’t that stop people conflating the Jews with their state!
According to the IHRA, antisemitism can include denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination. Again, I couldn’t agree more. Since Britain supported the rise of ISIS and armed its battalions, it’s only fair that it should also support the Jews-only state. And it’s never too late for Britain to admit that maybe an Aryan-only State is also a pretty kosher idea. And what about a White state? Do white people not also have the right to self-determination? I think we should be told.
Nor should it surprise us that man-of principle Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party rushed to back May’s move. After all, who more than that ‘man of the people’ Jeremy Corbyn would understand the need of British workers to attach themselves to Jewish sensitivities?
The Jewish Chronicle was kind enough to list the names of the Jewish leaders that congratulated the move. For example, Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis saluted the Prime Minister for her commitment to tackling the scourge of anti-Semitism and Jonathan Arkush, Board of Deputies president also welcomed the government decision. I wonder, is there not one Jewish leader who can see that such a move, one that makes Jews special in the eyes of the law, is a recipe for disaster? Does any Jewish leader really believe such a law will make British Jews loved or respected?
Jewish history actually proves the opposite. It is always Jewish exceptionalism that evolves into Jewish disaster.
Thanks for allowing my post on Mossad etc running and ruling over the British government. My faith in you is restored. I hope in light of this new irrefutable evidence, that it is the Zionist empire and not the Anglo Zionist empire you will change your position. I have made mistakes in the past as well, but I admit them and can change my position based up on real evidence that would be admissible in court as is the evidence just gave you.
What would happen if it had been Russians, Chinese, Iranians, French, Germans, Brazilians, and Greeks Angolans caught doing this? Judging by the hysteria about phony allegations of Russia electing Donald Trump, by our Soviet Jewish owned Zionist media, it would be front page news and it would be war!!!
Jews can do now do no wrong, they are man gods and the religion of what was once the West is now holocaustianty and worship of Jews as man gods.
Thanks Saker. But I think it worked a little on Trump, as per this article. Your thoughts.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-08/priebus-trump-accepts-us-intelligence-conclusion-russia-played-role-hacking
One thing observers of Trump must learn: no one speaks for Trump. He resets any comment by anyone back into his words and meaning.
Preibus and Pence and Kellyanne Conway like to speak UniParty-speak.
They are establishment tokens Trump uses to placate and keep the Globalists and Statists off balance.
Trump will set it straight forthwith. He’s done this time and again.
You have to understand him thoroughly. He is a Tsar. Everyone is on a one day pass who work for him. He’ll fire anyone.
The US has never had a private citizen like this as President.
He’s like some, but different from all.
No one nor any ideology rules him. He is a patriot, populist.
He is a classic American loner. An isolate soul.
We have elected The Man With No Name who, ironically, has a brand name.
This is Clint Eastwood with billions who has prospered in the midst of an ethos in NYC that devours most men. The American people have hired him to clean up the town, drain the swamp.
He follows his ideas only. He listens better than anyone has ever listened, but he never deviates from his goal.
He is waiting for the Intel community to finish with shooting its wad.
Then he’ll snap their dick and bust their balls.
Preibus is holding a clipboard. He’s nobody. Nor are the others around the oval office.
This is America’s Putin. And most don’t understand Vlad after 17 years.
This period of pre-power is the season of Noise. Wait. There is coming a season of Signals.
Exactly!
Thank you
I appreciate your courtesy here Jose, but I would like to let you know that we discourage very short responses like yours. They don’t exactly contribute to discussion, which is what we are looking for – however I will let them through this time assuming you were unaware of the “discussion response” rule. Thanks. Mod PS
Don’t be taken in by that ham-fisted propaganda. I’m astonished to see in on ZH. But, given their recent history, perhaps not so surprised after all. It is a propaganda hit-piece from Reuters. Period. That’s all it is. Neither Priebus nor Trump has “admitted” anything. I myself saw the interview. Priebus tried–twice–to finish his statement without answering Chris Wallace’s badgering interruptions, but Wallace wouldn’t shut up, so Priebus–as it seemed to me–said, “Russia,” simply to be allowed to finish his statement. Anyway, these words “admitted” and the rest of it, are propaganda from Reuters, nothing more.
For a brief time ZH was great, but then a concerted effort by Israeli agents changed all that. A zionist agent got himself made moderator at ZH, and began working with key zionist trolls who posted regularly at the site. The trolls would target any person writing significant pro-Russian or anti-Israel comments, and bait that person until they said something the Israeli moderator could use as an excuse to ban them. Meanwhile the moderator was constantly berating the management for running pro-Russian stories in the first place.
When the moderator was finally thrown out, he went on a general crusade describing ZH as an ‘anti-jewish’ ‘pro-Russian’ enterprise to any website that would listen – and the management of ZH responded in fear, altering the roster of daily news stories beyond all recognition. Now ZH is just another soft zionist outlet with morons writing illiterate dribble in the comments.
Don’t know who you are or your motives, but what you say about the current environment at ZH is entirely false. Perhaps you are showing some sour grapes from a bad experience – I don’t know. What I do know is that ZH is not a ‘soft zionist outlet with morons writing illiterate dribble in the comments’. As with any other comment section there are ‘stars’ and there are ‘imbeciles’, and ZH has its share of each. But what I have experienced is well-thought out comments on the part of the stars and many of those who contribute daily.
Indeed, I am quite vocally anti-zionist – many would call me anti-Semitic (even though there are few Semitics within the ranks of those who call themselves Jews but are not). I have had no problem posting my deepest feelings about Zionists on ZH, and indeed, it is the one site I can really do so.
Even a wonderfully anti-AngloZionist site like the Saker’s is heavily moderated, unlike ZH (as an example, see the moderator’s comment injected above about ‘short responses’ – that would never happen on ZH. So I truly do not know where you are coming from.
At the risk of being edited out, it looks like “twilight” is most probably the disgruntled ex editor in question, out to poison yet more minds against ZH.
More and more, ZH is my go to site to keep a finger on the pulse, a peek in the madhouse window, and an ear at the boardroom door. That and the comments are an absolute riot if you are up for a free for all bar room brawl, which as an ex kiwi barman/bouncer I find entertaining when conducted by consenting adults. They have no faer or favour, and are most often first with news that only shows up elsewhere days later, if at all.
Thanks for your testimony, I was not paying attention to ZH at all, but now, and since I find the comments of this “twighlight” highly suspicious and the censure here excessive, for not to say excessively biased ) , I will pass over there for sure.
ZH is a mixed bag – but certainly not a ‘soft Zionist outlet.’
That said, it sometimes posts anti-Iranian content and articles that do not ‘fit’ a perfect ‘alt-media’ niche.
But I consider that generally ‘healthy’ as it provokes a lively debate.
It is consistently on the money with regard to media machinations and often posts news that reveals them: it recently featured a post on the movement of NATO ships between Libya and Italy, exposing the duplicity of ‘human rights’ NGOs in the people-smuggling racket.
Didn’t see that reported anywhere else.
That there may very well be Zionist sympathies among those who editorialize or comment on the site is neither here nor there: it is not a consistent narrative promoted by the site.
Thank you.
The last paragraph is perfect, Saker. Trump can talk nice in public to appear “reasonable” (from the crazy ziocon perspective) to keep them off balance. But never in the hope of getting them off his back. The fight has started and there is only winning or loosing.
In fact, while I may be wrong, I’m pretty sure his tough talk on Iran is meant to keep the Christian fundies on his side and not so much the neocons. My guess is he has no intention of actually picking a fight with Iran, though he will do some harrasment tactics that have minimal effect on the Iranians but look good on neoconservative TV. The Iranians will hardly notice or care.
The key is that the fundamentalists can be persuaded that Russia is a real Christian country with real Christian values and therefore not all bad. This separates them from the neocons on a huge issue. Trump is definitely a smart guy and seems to know exactly where his enemy is weakest and focuses there.
A pretty good American politics blog I read has described the struggle in the US government – Intelligence services included- as a fight between the “white hats” (good guys) vs. the “black hats” (bad guys).
The white hats are honest professionals who strive to do their jobs to the best of their ability. The “black hats” are politically motivated hacks who abuse their position and authority to advance a political agenda.
Clapper and Brennan are Obama political appointees, and they a the blackest of black hats. Nobody believes their nonsense except for those on the American Left who desperately want to believe it.
All of this really speaks to the almost unfathomable corruption eight years of the Obama politicization of EVERYTHING has wrought. The apparatus of the state has been weaponized against his political opponents. Parts of the bureaucracy that have always been considered neutral – such as the IRS, the FBI, the DOJ, and the “Intelligence Community” – have been brought low, with hair-raising scandals and transparently overt political acts.
The latest line from the black hats in the Deep State is that Mr. Trump must be incredibly naive or incredibly stupid if he trusts bad guy Vlad Putin (KGB! Boo!) over the God-fearing, red-white-and-blue, unimpeachable CIA! Or, perhaps Putin is blackmailing Trump, or bribing him. Seriously. That’s what they’re saying.
We should all take heart in President-elect Donald Trump’s courage and pugnaciousness in the face of these scurrilous attacks. President elect Trump has nominated several retired Generals for cabinet posts. This is significant because all three generals were sacked by Obama for political reasons. They’re “white hats” being brought in to root out the cancer of the Obamaites.
Which explains the shrill hysterics coming from the black hats of the Deep State.
Well said!
“[..] a fight between the “white hats” (good guys) vs. the “black hats” (bad guys). ”
The Global Zionist Banking Cartel have been tightly in charge of the USA since its very foundation.
Acting through fancy-named proxies like the Pilgrim, Freemasons, robber barons, cowboys, WASPs, the Italian mafia, the mob, Mormons, the Boston Brahmin, Hollywood, the Hippies, the Yuppies, the Black Panthers, Feminists & Snowflakes, they were able to create the most amazing intertwined matrix of power the world has ever seen, with seemingly nobody noticing.
While their dominion-expanding hoaxes of Pearl Harbor, Bay of Pics, JFK assassination, Gulf of Tonkin incident, the moon landing block buster and untold others frauds hardly raised any suspicions, the farce of 9/11 might have gone a tad to far.
Suddenly, even 12 years old boys watching the 24 hours nonstop CNN footage of the planes hitting the Twin Towers felt an unsettling tingling running down their spines and couldn’t help but ask themselves: “Is this really real, or ….”
The advent of the internet and hundred thousands of people like you&me connecting together and sorting things out with the speed of light, added up to the first real challenge to the Money Printers on the American continent, ever!
And here comes Trump. Not exactly an outsider, not exactly a holy man, but yet a man with surefire instincts, amazing intuition, streetwise intelligence and a fully functional heart chakra – or so it seems at least.
Show down time! The Talmudists are gearing up for a Holy war against anything and anyone who has the audacity to challenge their god-given right to complete dominion over humanity and rest of the Universe.
My idiot local newspaper is barking at me daily with fervor I have never seen before. Scary, yes, but also very, very funny.
well… the latest news about this subject:
“Trump Chief of Staff, Reince Priebus, folds to Fox News, and says Russia is behind “fake news” election hack”
http://theduran.com/trump-chief-of-staff-reince-priebus-folds-to-fox-news-and-says-russia-is-behind-election-fake-news-hack/
go figure…
The headline is “fake” ; “entities in Russia” does not equal the Russian state . . .obviously.
http://pickeringpost.com/cartoon/6781
So, most probably, Trump´s friendly attitude is displayed in order to confuse the Russians and makes them confident of a descalation that never will be?
We must pay attention to facts instead of twitters, and OTAN continues amassing troops and material at Russian borders.
I would be in full alert towards January 20th.
Anon,
Finally a reasonable comment. Trumps actions, not his tweets, will matter. If those actions stray very far from the intentions of empires, and the world’s zionist dominated masters, those who control currencies, banking, agriculture and distribution.of products and wealth worldwide, Trump will simply be made to go away. There is far too much at stake to allow one individuals goals to upset the apple cart. Even Putin, and Russia as a whole are still being restrained by Elvira and Russia’s central bank. Who controls Elvira? No amount of genius is necessary to know the answer.
When Mr. T succeeds in pulling back the combined US/NATO forces from Russia’s western and southwestern borders, without first being restrained or eliminated I will eat crow. Then consider his positions concerning China. If, by some miracle, Trump were to accomplish rapproachment with his Russian partners, much better relations, how do the Russian leadership react towards a more agressive policy toward the Chinese government? History in the making, one way or another.
we are all shivering on their reaction against Trump jan 20 on.
All is uncertainty unless the winner takes no prisoners.
I don’t know what to make of this. Maybe it’s just lies to try to keep the wagon rolling — and lying is OK now, of course: just say what you want and move on.
Maybe it is significant and maybe not. If Trump is questioned on it he say ‘I didn’t say that’, or ‘I don’t agree with that’ — similar to what he said about Pence regarding supporting some war — forget which one.
We are in a post-logic, post-rationality, and post-truth stage now, apparently, and nothing which is said matters — or maybe at least until he is sworn in.
Now, we have seen things like this where Obama, Kerry, and the generals tell very different stories, and where no one is on script, so maybe this is just part of that trend?
But then with everyone wondering if the game is poker or chess or what, maybe Trump’s game is Fizzbin…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DeIExLcURQ
Increasingly , I am reminded of the traditional pesher technique, where there is a surface meaning for the uninitiated, and the true meaning, hidden in plain sight, for those who have the “key “.
In the present case , it appears that the “key ” is comprised of literacy and intelligence in roughly equal amounts.
Just remember : Trump is born in the sign of Gemini. Gemini’s motto : “two souls in my heart”. The life with him will be a real adventure, and he enjoys this because it’s his way of life.
Damage containment.
Trump may simply be ‘riding the wave’ or not getting into the nitty-gritty ( like the fact that the malware was Ukrainian).
Priebus got a lot of media heat for dismissing the claim initially.
And they’ve got the Repubtiles like Graham and McCain sh*tstirring
In the GOP.
So I think its a case of conceding – slightly – one battle in the coming war.
There is no widespread belief in the Russian ‘hack’ narrative as far as I can make out, only the usual suspects making the claim.
More attention should be given to how the DHS is using the claims as a smokescreen to gain control over the electoral process.
This is propaganda from Reuters. I myself saw the interview between Priebus and Chris Wallace. Also, Trump tweeted wither today or yesterday that people who don’t want friendly relations with Russia are “fools.” His exact word. This “Priebus admits” malarkey is propaganda from Reuters.
Already over?
Priebus: Trump “Accepts” That Russia Played A Role In Election Hacking
In a surprising twist, incoming White House chief of staff Reince Priebus said Sunday on Fox News that President-elect Donald Trump accepts that Russia played a role in hacking the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta.
Priebus, the former RNC chairman, said Trump understands that Moscow was behind the intrusions into the Democratic Party organizations. “He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia so that’s not the issue” and added that Trump “is not denying that entities in Russia were behind this particular hacking campaign.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-08/priebus-trump-accepts-us-intelligence-conclusion-russia-played-role-hacking
Pay attention to exactly what Trump and his people are saying: Russia, AND EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD as well as numerous private groups and individuals, are always attempting to hack into computer networks.
Of course they are! Personally, I would think less of Russian Intelligence if they WEREN’T trying. And I’m quite sure the US Intelligence is hacking right back … and ditto, I would think less of them if they weren’t.
From there he segues into “enhancing cyber security will be a top priority”. Something which Obama, for his entire administration, couldn’t have cared less about until the final hours of his administration when he suddenly discovered it as a tool to attack and undermine the incoming administration.
To recap: Trump tells Obama and the breathless press, “No s**t, Sherlock”, “perhaps you could have lifted a finger to do something about it, had you not been completely stupid, corrupt, and incompetent.”
This is propaganda from Reuters. Zero Hedge did NOT initiate this story. They simply printed a Reuters story, which is propaganda, pure and simple. Ignore it. ZH ain’t what it used to be.
ZH used to be entirely about exposing the fraud of the US markets. But everyone knows that it’s completely corrupt now, so it turned into a clickbait site.
“For Trump and, I would argue, for the USA as a country, it is vital to purge the top levels of power from such incompetent and dishonorable clowns.”
And what will Soros and The Tribe have to say about that? Reactionary all-out imbeciles are their most solid, dependable adherents. Pretty amusing with a horde of gung-ho imbeciles providing the “intelligence”.
Again: The Soviets were 100% on point viewing bourgeois ideology as a manifestation of mental illness.
Actually this report proves some things, you just got to read it carefully.
It proves that Russians are funding Russian Media Networks to spread and defend Russian interests around the world!
It proves, WITH DATA, that RT does very well on YouTube.
And, most of all, it proves they can use intelligence to intelligently manage space on a report. Out of 25 pages, 8 are filled with blanks, index or cover pages.
Read it carefully!
The tremendous influence ascribed to Sputnik and RT is one of the funniest elements in the report. Apparently these two media outlets are more influential than the entire US media. The New York Times, Washington Post, all the broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) and all the cable news (CNN, Fox, MSNBC) and internet news sites such as Huffington Post and Daily KOS were no match for the Red Menace(-es)!
Truth be told, the propaganda content of RT and Sputnik is comparable to the US outlets cited above, but probably with more factual content. The American MSM quit pretending to be objective journalists a long time ago; the Russian outlets still make an effort.
If, and that is a big “If”, Trump takes office he can correct many of these last minute maneuvers. However, it seems rather clear that a surreptitious,underground, slo-mo coup is being attempted in the USA at this moment.
The Corporate Media, buried securely into the bowels of the deep state, is in high gear trying to “soften” us and to shut us up. These next 11 days will call forth patriots, truth tellers and men and women of principle–one can hope.
More will be revealed. In the next weeks, If there is a major earthquake along with massive flooding in California, they will have the perfect storm in which to practice mass exercises in marshal law much like what they did for the City of Boston after the pressure-cooker bombings but in this case there will be good reason. The State is run by Hillary-supporters and will cooperate fully.
The key will be what happens afterwards. Legally, half of the National Guard is under jurisdiction of the Governor of the State and the other half under the President of the United States.
there are 17 intelligence agencies full of folks running all sorts of scenarios much like this when they are not twiddling their thumbs or writing mind numbing reports agreeable to their superiors. The proof is in the putting, however.
There is a great deal more to come from Wikileaks if the neo-cons and anti-Trump/Anti-Russia crowd don’t shut up and stand down. They have been warned quite clearly, and they ignore the warning at their peril. The inauguration will go on as planned–smoothly and without incident.
“It appears that the US intelligence community has been so totally politicized that it is unable to fulfill its most important task: inform US decision makers.”
The badly put together report is perhaps a result of the political animals at the heads of the intel agencies hedging their bets. At the moment Obama who requested the report is their boss. In a few days, Trump will be their new boss.
… and that is exactly why Trump is selecting people who will clean house, eliciting the frantic mudslinging hissy fit from those about to be “cleaned”.
Haha, just hilarious! As I’m writing these very lines, the Swedish MSM dullards have finally “seen the light”. To wit: Russia, China, and North Korea (who could ever have guessed?) are hacking Sweden’s computer networks to the tune of 100000 attacks per annum. And that could be a serious attempt to interfere with Sweden’s elections in 2018 ! Plagiarizing taken to the point of silly caricature.
The news broadcast then continued accordingly with the latest rehash right from Zionazi Hoaxes Inc. : Another lorry tour-de-force — this time right in the Zionist Entity itself.
MSM = Merde Saloperie Mensonges
Many years ago, when “always online” internet was still a bit of novelty, my sister had a software firewall that blocked “potentially malicious” pings on her computer. It popped up an alert message with the details of the IP addresses attempting to probe her computer.
Quite a lot were coming out of mainland China at that time. It was a bit surprising to me, but even 15 years ago it was well known that foreign IP’s were constantly probing for vulnerabilities.
Also: The online threat environment is one reason why TOP CABINET OFFICIALS SHOULD NOT KEEP CLASSIFIED INFORMATION ON A HOMEBREW SERVER IN THE BATHROOM CLOSET!!!
I can only imagine the incredulity at foreign intelligence services when they discovered Hillary Clinton’s “clintonemail.com” server. They probably figured it was a trap or a decoy of some sort: NOBODY is that stupid and incompetent.
as a Twin, Donald is prinzipially a pragmatic one. The “third” line of Mercury is: they do it and we do it, permanantly.
As written, the form of this report looks very bad, even if you are not a seasoned analyst. It becomes downright stupid if it you happen to have the technical knowledge to read the substance, mostly presented in the previous report. And if you have been actively involved in a similar high profile hacking case involving the exact same tools and groups of people quoted, you get scared to death. I am terrified. Seriously.
If the authors (or their masters) of this report can get away with this, without having anybody else but John McAfee coming out and calling this circus batshit crazy, then we should all seriously consider USA as a rogue state. The anchors of all the TV networks have aligned themselves on this insanity, almost forcing the story down the throat of their guests and viewers with a synchronization that even Kim Jong Un would not expect from his generals.
There is almost no pushback! Even when James Claper hints at the absurdity he is forced to present -and he truly did it several times during his hearing-, 15 days before retiring, nobody takes notice. Worse, foreign countries and media organizations, even the ones who have always been highly skeptical of US Intelligence, seem to gobble it all. Does the average American citizen realize that by accepting this at face value he is signing a blank check to these guys? That any disaster, either provoked or purely accidental, will now safely be attributed to a hacking of some sort by the bad guys of the day? It is like a “license to false flag”.
While foreign leaders were probably amused at what a failing administration did attempt to rig its own election process, they cannot ignore anymore disparaging comments when a large population is being indoctrinated. This can quickly go out of control. Did anyone notice that the Russian president, in this official, worldwide circulated report is referred to as “Putin”? Not even Mr. Has President Duterte started a trend? Maybe the classified report contained SOB Putin.
This entire story and the narrative are beyond the pale.
The intellectual elites in US, especially the ones in IT industries, have to step in and bury these dangerous clowns. It is urgent.
Sad to say but YES, our fluoridated sheeple easily and passively accept what the presstitutes publish.
Americans have learned to be comfortable being lied to. Much easier than critical thinking.
Which is why, I am the black sheep of the family and have few friends if any.
They do not like intelligent discourse when the speak media talking point drivel.
But I am encouraged that many here grasp the gravity of the talmudic synogogue of satan ownership of the ussa.
They now have infested and infected the nation with all Marxist planks without a fight.
The only solution I see is to water the tree of liberty once again.
Be well everyone. …
I have Bad news for You Tex…
The Tree of Liberty is long dead in the Old Republic.
They changed it for a plastic surrogate.
From what I see, the US public aren’t buying it. There have been several online surveys, and those who trust in and believe Wikileaks outnumber those who believe in the US intel by roughly 5:1. And trust in official news outlets is at an all-time low.
(As seen on ZH; Who does America believe?).
Apparently uk spies tipped off the usa in 2015 after “fancy bear” hackers alledgedly targeted uk elections and government servers then….nb today Turkey is complaining usa has attacked it’s energy something or other…
Bwuhahahahaha
If that is how you spell it.
All those billions spent to look the most stupid fools ever.Soooo good to read all the debunking articles every day.
Preibus is the snake in the long grass.
Gates likening Trump to Kennedy was no compliment.
More of a threat or intimidation wouldn’t you think?
Pathetic – is the adjective that keeps coming to me.
Even with my very limited knowledge of Intelligence matters, when I downloaded and read the Report I initially thought I had been spoofed.
Especially based on the ‘gotcha’ response coming from NBC etc.
But, based on the abysmal track record of the MSM, I should have know better.
I checked to ensure that I had the real thing and having done that, I read it a second time.
In any self respecting country, a Report of this nature; devoid of evidence, short on facts and full of vagueness, every single Agency head should be fired with immediate effect and placed in detention to await their fate.
For the US however, the bar must be raised even higher. These multiple Agencies command $billion dollar budgets !
This is totally disgracefull and unacceptable, and as the Saker said very very Scary, because these guys have the potential to get Wars started – as they did with Iraq, and we all know the story there.
With all the hype that these guys and the pliant MSM have been building up for months about Russian hacking, and with their growing insistence that their case was a Slam Dunk, I was expecting at minimum a:
shakey video of Putin speaking in broken English congratulating the hackers for hacking the DNC and Clinton’s Server, while pausing to take an incoming call from Julian Assange.
……I mean at least.
I think we can safely conclude that these multiple US Intelligence Agencies are running a huge Racket at the expense of unwitting US taxpayers.
Is this how they account for the $billions allocated to them annually?
I think they should not only be Fired, but
Arrested, Prosecuted and Convicted.
Trump need to take an Axe to these Agencies ASAP and remove the colossal international embarrassment that they have inflicted upon the United States.
As for the US MSM: this is a hydra-headed monster that he will have to slay if he wishes to have enough breathing room to have an effective presidency.
He will probably have to resort to legislation to break up some of these huge Media Conglomerates that have been allowed to cosolidate to the point where, they now threaten the effective operation of the State.
To go the legislative route however, Trump would need the support of Congress, and here in lies the problem, because if you thought the Intelligence Agencies are corrupt and compromised, then, you cleary dont know anything about the US Congress.
The US Congress is beyond redemption.!
Craven
Corrupt
Conflicted
Compromised
Clueless
Occupied
All these adjectives just scrape the surface in trying to describe Congress.
But anyway, Trump has to start somewhere, and given the Whopper that the Agencies just served up for “analysis” their little Bubble World is a good a place as any to start cleaning house or as he would say ” draining the Swamp”.
Again, only the word Pathetic, comes to mind…
Yes, Saker, you are quite right: Trump must clean house. USing the FBI to bring to heel those in Congress, the bureaucracies, and the (so-called) “press” is just my prescription, as well, so I am in full agreement with you. And for the same reasons: The neo-cons will not rest. We all know who they are, and to whom they answer. Their loyalties are not to America, so there is no reason to keep them inside the government. The people are fed up with them anyway. So we shall see.
And that he will….
Hi Saker,
Hope you are having a good break.
I have read the document and it really is embarrassing that this was put out by the USA key agencies.
1. They must have known it was rubbish but the audience it’s aimed at don’t care as they are on board with the anti Russian b***s***. The media and the British cons in both parties
2. The people too busy to read it will either go along with the MSM or just block it out as they don’t really care
3. Those that have read it will shake their head in astonishment that the USA are trying the old WMD truck again!
Trump I don’t know about – as I can’t work out his motivations for the Russian policy
Does he want to break the Russia and China alliance ?
Worried about the attitude to China and Iran
I don’t like trump and don’t trust him – what is the agenda
Any thought on the questions
Excuse my bluntness here, but it doesn’t really matter a wit whether we happen to like or trust Trump or not.
Reality dictated that between electing warmongering sociopath Hillary or Donald there was absolutely NO other choices to be had in the matter.
Whatever the outcome, we’ll just all have to live with that fact.
My predilection is that Trump will try to clean up the swamp, but that if he goes to fast and too far, and doesn’t have the backing of at least some very powerful elements within the “deep state” he’ll soon meet the same fate as JFK.
Then it will be game over and Americans will be in a real civil dilemma, with martial law and a military state of emergency turning the empire into an oligarchical run dictatorship. Which for all intents and purposes it already practically is.
Only time will tell what forces will prevail, the rest is up to destiny and completely out of our control. Meantime I think we just have pray and support Trump in whatever way we can in his fight against an establishment that clearly wants to see him dead and gone from history.
As he said in one of his last speeches, “we’ve crossed the Rubicon and there’s not turning back now”. It’s either put up a fight for what you got or shut up and stop whining about not having a custom consumer catalogue of ideal political candidates to select from, buy into and order delivered to your door step to save you without any effort and expenditure of energy.
Since most of those now fretting about what Trump will do next, didn’t even bother getting off the their lazy asses to go out and vote against Hillary. You have no reason to complain now.
Face it, the globalist have turned the heart of the American empire into a third world slum country by means of austerity and draconian dictatorial laws, so by now we should all know exactly what it’s like for the rest of the world to be at the receiving end of American imperial might.
Time to wake up from the delusions of a functioning “democracy” or any personal freedoms of “choice” and work with whatever you’ve got left to save America and avoid being fried by a thermonuclear war with Russia.
Can it be made any clearer or simpler, that there is NO other “choice” left now but to support Trump or perish at the behest of the globalist neocons determined to bring about an Armageddon to serve their insane delusional interests while hiding from the rest of us in their nuclear bunkers.
So whom do you want to trust, Trump or all those that have already clearly told you they are out to destroy you and all the rest of humanity?
To me it’s a no-brained question, unless of course your hopelessly out of touch with reality and lack any common sense in which case this whole discourse will be completely lost on you.
Time to make up your mind and decide once and for all which side of history your on. Being as how in a nuclear war there is no neutral ground left for any of us to hide behind while we try and make up our minds about which side we’re actually on.
It’s either Trump for all his faults or neocon Hillary’s promised thermonuclear holocaust visited upon us all period.
That alone, “for better or worse” is the only choice in reality we are wedded to by history, like it or not. Failure to do so is not an option.
So for once, get real America EH!..Ray
Does he want to break the Russia and China alliance ?
I don’t know, but I hope that he does not, because if he does he will be disappointed as this ain’t happening. I will soon write an article about that, stay tuned :-)
Perhaps that will not be possible while Mr. Putin is in charge, but it is not the first time in history China turns against Russia and allies with the US, as happened during Mr. Khrushchev mandate onwards .
I’ve read that possible gambit – as Nixon turned to China to counter Russia, so Trump will turn to Russia to counter China.
That might be a little too cute by half.
Trump is, first and last, about two things: Action and results. He doesn’t hold a grudge, and never lets personal feelings stand in the way of closing a deal.
He has very specific complaints about China, simply stated Trump says China is “behaving badly” but all he wants is for them to “stop it”. And if they do stop “it” then everything is fine, no need to carry on any further.
A big advantage Trump has over nearly every other American politician is he begins with the end in mind, actually thinks a matter all the way through before acting, and plans several moves ahead. Obama, on the other hand, never thought anything through, never had a plan, and only considered the immediate political implications, totally unconcerned with the future.
In practical terms, I don’t think a President Trump would have ever drawn a “red line” in Syria or anywhere else unless he was truly prepared to follow through. Obama did draw that line, but he didn’t expect to ever have it tested. He was under pressure to “DO SOMETHING”, and so he did what he does best – he SAID “SOMETHING”. In a firm voice. Then as far as he and his fanboys in the media were concerned the matter was settled.
Time will tell.
What do you think about Engdahls’ opinion about this question of breaking the Russian-Chinese alliance. Very frightening I would think.
I find the argument for the REAL powers actually supporting Trump and turning against Hillary not very convincing. It is too convoluted – at least on the surface – and would not have necessarily guaranteed a Trump victory.
Here is the link:
http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2016/12/22/the-incredible-trump-deception
This report, as everything else Obama does, is strictly for US domestic consumption and serves only the political purposes of the Democrat Party.
If it sours diplomatic relations with Russia, provokes an international incident, embarrasses the CIA, and damages US international prestige is of no importance to Barack Obama.
The goal of this report is to undermine Trump by de-legitimizing his election victory. The New York Times, a once great newspaper now reduced to the Democratic Party newsletter, ran this story. The reader comments section was filled with thousands of responses from the Democratic faithful still mourning for Hillary Clinton expressing their profound satisfaction: “‘Comrade’ Trump will forever be a president with an asterisk next to his name, he owes his victory to Russian hackers! Trump is a fool lacking the ability to understand that he is just Putin’s puppet!” Literally, THOUSANDS of NYT readers believe this.
The half of the country that voted for Trump knows the report is nonsense. The ultimate disgraceful act of a disgraceful President.
So, as far as Obama and the Democrats are concerned … mission, accomplished.
Well, you made perfect sense Saker but here’s the latest headline from Reuters:
Trump acknowledges Russia role in U.S. election hacking: aide
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14S0O6
EXCERPT (sucks)
Reince Priebus said Trump believed Russia was behind the intrusions into the Democratic Party organizations, although Priebus did not clarify whether the president-elect agreed that the hacks were directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia, so that’s not the issue,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”
It was the first acknowledgment from a senior member of the Republican president-elect’s team that Trump had accepted that Russia directed the hacking and subsequent disclosure of Democratic emails during the 2016 presidential election.
“He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia, so that’s not the issue.”
“Action may be taken”
The piece is spin. They are only admitting that people with Russian IP addresses try to hack [government] servers in America.
Action may be taken means that there are definitely reasons to shore up IT security for some departments and organizations, and to make sure people at the DOS are not using servers in their basement (to avoid FOIA) and syncing their mail with telephones and Weiner’s laptop.
Really, any source IP can be made to look to come from anywhere -this is basically what anonymisers do for camouflage.
No ‘state level’ hacker would expose themselves this way although they might make it look like someone else. There is a possibility that the NSA can hack TOR but there are other alternatives:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/best-alternatives-tor-12-programs-use-nsa-hackers-compromised-tor-project-376976
All this said, everybody hacks everybody and what individuals do nobody can control.
What this report shows is why they lost the election. They actually are disinformed, misinformed, they lost contact with reality, they live in their own fantasy world (which is also an echo-chamber). That’s what makes them so dangerous. They are the real enemies of USA and a McCarthy like commission is warranted. They are in fact the scions of the same people McCarthy tried to rid America of.
The report is a joke and literally ALL of the alleged “evidence” actually pertaining to the hacks (where there were hacks and not LEAKS) is purely circumstantial and spoofable by hackers. Infosec expert Jeffrey Carr has debunked every one of them in his articles on Medium (Google for them, very good reads). He has made a clear case that Russian intelligence would never do any hack in the ham-handed manner these hacks were done.
The fact that some of the malware used is not Russian but Ukrainian is particularly interesting, since it points directly to the very logical possibility that Ukraine hackers – of whom there are many who probably do not like Russia but speak Russian – were involved in an attempt to frame Russia for the hacks. The point raised that the compile times of the malware were during Russian business hours is ridiculous – Kiev, Ukraine, is one hour behind Moscow time if you look at the time zones. And any hacker worth his salt could adjust his computer’s time to be anywhere in the world. They would also have easy access to Russian Internet providers.
The report is pathetically bad and will likely backfire.
Here is my ultra-extreme reading of this entire mess.
So the American intelligence community has now released two reports on this “Russian hack”: the December 29 “Joint Analysis Report”, and this January 6 “Intelligence Community Assessment”.
As Saker has said, both of these reports are underwhelming. But it seems to me that they’re so abysmally bad that it can’t possibly be an accident.
Compare these reports to what the FBI was able to put together to indict Chinese state hackers back in 2014. There you see 48 pages of actual hard evidence and specific actions confirmed and explained in detail.
The December 29 JAR report combines two hacking groups into a single Russian state actor which is given the ridiculous name “Grizzly Steppe”. This is despite the fact that the CrowdStrike report on which they are basing this intelligence claims that the two groups are completely separate, took pointless duplicate actions, and were apparently unaware of each other. This initial report has less than half a page of technical details, which led to many calls for a more in-depth report — the mess of nonsense we have before us today. The intelligence community cannot have been unaware of the media’s clamor to make all the details public, so why is the second report so bad?
Both the JAR and ICA reports are filled with what is not only filler text but OBVIOUS filler text. Fully half of the JAR is generic information about how hacking works. The ICA report contains only 5 pages of complaints about Russia and all of them are completely unsourced assertions. The rest of the 14-page report discusses what RT was broadcasting during the 2012 election, as well as generic information about the ODNI in general and blank space.
Did they seriously see no need to include data from after 2012?
I am of the opinion that mere incompetence cannot explain this. Someone very high up is being forced to follow orders that they do not want to follow at all. They in turn ordered their inferiors to issue purposefully useless reports that undermine the legitimacy of their own propaganda operation. Obama in turn allowed these reports to be released as is — people who actually read them critically are not his target audience.
We are truly through the looking glass here. Something big must be coming on Inauguration Day. If these reports are the result of incompetence then the entire American intelligence community is a disorganized jumble of idiots, which does not reflect what I know about them.
Agree, this is just the ICA fooling the POTUS. Boycotting the POTUS I mean.
It is so “ridiculous” that is obvious.
I am of the same opinion.
BTW, what is Guccifer? I have never heard about this.
Totally agree.
It is almost entirely ‘filler’ and really clumsy, obvious filler at that.
It’s hard to put it down to incompetence: though the political appointees that head the agencies are not likely appointed for their ‘intelligence’, the actual analysts must surely be required to meet some basic standards.
It does look like a ‘forced’ result.
Some might say that the real significance lies elsewhere – they might say the object was not Mr T but the rubes, the masses. The self evident question is obvious – why?
To generate consent for war. As part of a drum beat…
FSB: We assess that even though Trump is ignorant and unpredictable, Hillary is the more likely to foment adventuresome incidents on our borders, injure Russian interests, and take us further down the path to thermonuclear confrontation. This aligns with the interest of the Foundation and its contributors.
PUTIN: Good. What kind of interventions are possible to discourage Americans to vote for Hillary?
RT: We could run more shows with a negative slant on Hillary, rerunning material we can borrow cheaply from American MSM.
FSB: We could use our contacts to try to place a mixture of true and disturbing stories about Hillary in American media. A solid budget would help us “persuade” many among the American press, we could even outbid the CIA for their “services”.
AIDE: You could give a speech and just say you really favor Trump, or maybe we could reverse engineer the American public mind by praising Hillary instead!
GRU: You guys are so complicated. None of that will make any difference. Why not just divulge true messages and let Hillary hang herself?
ALL: Well that sounds brilliant, but what makes you think such terrorist [Google translated, Original=explosive] material exists, and how on earth can we find it, let alone pull off such a stunt ?
GRU: Well, as luck would have it, Human Intel has just informed us that some Sanders supporters at Democrats HQ have phoned with us, and they estimate with high confidence that there is a bomb present there, of course we are speaking with a figure of speech, which means: DNC plotters expose themselves and Hillary.
PUTIN: Yessss! I could pass it on myself secretly using special Russian calendar technique, Julian. Then I will get the credit and he will get the blame. Yes, we Russians are so clever when it comes to fooling Americans how to vote — we hide Pravda into Propaganda in plain view. Ha !
I hope when Terump visits Russia, Pres. Putin teaches him how to conduct a proper purge. That is, if Trump makes it that far.
Don’t know why Trump is being upbraided for not submitting to the authority of the intelligence community. There is already a precedent for this in living memory, e.g., BILL CLINTON. When Frank Eugene Corder crashed a plane onto the White House lawn in 1994, the running gag in Washington was that the pilot was [then CIA director] Jim Woolsey, trying to get a meeting with the president. It was common knowledge that Clinton was completely uninterested in meetings and briefings with the CIA. In fact, Clinton stated in an interview that he could pick up more from reading the NY Times or the Washington Post than from so-called intelligence briefings.
“As is the inn-keeper, thus he trusts his guest” is a saying in my country, indicating that people interpret others’ actions to mean what it would mean if they themselves were involved.
Jung talked about the shadow self, Freud about projection.
The whole meme by the US Defense establishment about hybrid information warfare, that is, achieving the results of warfare by other means, notably propaganda, is nothing else than a completely transparent self-revelation of what they themselves are doing and how they think. Russian defense spending is obviously intended for invasion of other countries.
The most peculiar thing about the Russia scare is that absolutely nothing has come to light since it was first started. Despite there being no additional facts or evidence, the story just keeps growing and transforming itself. Now they’re saying it’s not just the Russians, but Iran and China were in on it too. Everything that has been added since the democrats first blamed leaked emails on the Russians is pure echo chamber conjecture and speculation: The GRU did it, hackers used by Russian intelligence did it, WikiLeaks was in on it, Putin supervised it, RT and Russian media were marshalled to make Americans change their minds, Iran was part of it too … Even Clapper was still saying in October that there was a lot of hyperventilation going on about Russian attribution.
What if Putin et al were to simply state openly that they prefer a new president who will not bait them and is mindful of what military confrontation could lead to, and who tries to cooperate on matters of joint interest [they have said this], and they assess that Trump more likely fits this bill. Who cares? Obviously they would think that. Obama openly campaigned against Brexit! Obama even referred to “after we brokered a deal .. uh .. to transition power in Ukraine” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmUNCsT8TjU [00:19 second mark]
1. DNC/MSM favored Trump as an easily beatable Republican candidate, and enabled that scenario.
2. MSM gave Trump billions in free publicity. Even though they knew he was baiting and trolling them, they couldn’t help themselves, and thought their negative coverage would be a negative for Trump.
3. DNC/MSM subverted the democratic election process, favoring Clinton over Sanders, who would have been the better candidate to beat Trump, even hiring fixers who paid thugs to incite violence outside of Trump rallies and paid people to populate the DNC convention and keep out Sanders’ supporters.
4. DNC/MSM grip on reality was completely knocked out when the inevitable Trump loss did not happen, and they were themselves almost entirely to blame.
5. Psychotic denial sets in and everything is blamed on the omnipotent and omniscient puppet-master in Moscow: After all, almost nothing happens in Russia or the world without Him knowing about it.
A few days ago ITN in Britain ran a lunchtime news broadcast that was basically 30 minutes of Russia bashing using 5 or 6 different Orwellian issues, including the ‘hacking’ story. For those that don’t know, ITN is a wholly jewish owned british (fake) news agency that was set up to provide the news broadcasts on non-BBC TV channels and radio stations in the UK when the British government was finally forced to end the monopoly the BBC had in radio and TV services (end of the 1950s). Today, Murdoch’s ‘Sky’ news outlet provides a third ‘official’ news outlet for radio/TV use in the UK.
ITN (which is also Channel 4 news- a fact few Brits appreciate) makes the BBC look like saints by comparison. It was ITN that led the world zionist propaganda against the Russian assistance of the Afghan government back when British funded muslim extremists from British created religious schools in Pakistan threatened the first major wahhabi terror revolution of the 20th century. ITN actively cheered the murder of every Russian soldier in Afghanistan. Today we know these terrorists as the ‘Taliban’, but back when ITN glorified their destruction of Human Rights in Afghanistan, the ‘Muhadajeen’ were the allies of ‘James Bond’ and ‘Rambo’.
My point is that the pure garbage represented by this so-called ‘report’ exists only so lying filth at agencies like ITN can refer to it to ‘prove’ their anti-Russian news stories. And the people who watch this garbage are so thick and ill-informed, it doesn’t matter how pathetic the underlying propaganda actually is. These moronic viewers/readers will never ever bother to even read the original report- and will take the word of the news readers that every word is well researched and ‘true’.
It’s a 50-50 game – like the US election where half the population was awake enough to vote for Trump, and the other half were sleep-walking idiots proud to vote for war-monger Clinton. The monsters hope that the 50% of the population they have ‘in the bag’ will be enough. Like the ‘sheep’ of Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’ bleating out their SJW indoctinated nonsense to drown out the voices of the informed.
By proving what garbage this report is does us little good, because the ill-informed 50% are proud to be dupes of the mainstream media. In a world where murderous terrorist agents from the jewish terrorist state of Israel can proudly operate in the UK to “take out” any British politician who opposes the evil of Israel, the zionist owned/controlled mainstream media outlets and the Soros/zionist controlled mock-independent outlets consider themselves to be untouchable.
The scariest thing is how certain outlets like ITN are that it will be ‘business as usual’ after Trump is supposedly made president. Obviously these zionists are certain they know something we don’t. Given that Trump is the ***only*** major Republican figure who is pro-Russia and anti-war, it is reasonable to assume that what they know is that Trump is not long for this world. This rubbish report makes no sense if Trump is to take absolute power only a few weeks later. After all, it would represent career ruin for a vast number of careerists at the various ‘intelligence’ agencies in the USA- and these people never willingly put their necks on the chopping block.
No, this report is like PNAC calling for a “new Pearl Harbour” to justify US wars against all the enemies of Israel. PNAC was widely quoted, and then the required 9/11 happened shortly afterwards. This ‘hacking report’ likewise is certain about the actions that are going to follow- because whatever it takes is what will happen.
PS after the story broke about Israeli agents directly threatening British politicians in the UK, Israel arranged a false flag (the so-called truck attack) to knock this very ‘difficult’ story off the headlines, and to garner sympathy for Israel. This is just how ruthless the enemies of Mankind are.
“The scariest thing is how certain outlets like ITN are that it will be ‘business as usual’ after Trump is supposedly made president.”
They also knew Trump would not win the election.
Trump has been a step ahead so far and hopefully he will stay a step ahead.
“This is just how ruthless the enemies of Mankind are.”
Great line Twilight, for this is what they truly are. Thing is though they seem to be running out of mojo. This truck attack is so obviously a false flag, linked up to the French and German attacks. Israel has been trying to conflate ‘Islamic Terrorism’ with Palestinian resistance for decades; it is the foundational idea behind the GWOT. When I see lazy covert activity (read discovered passports/known wolves), I see the end of the line. Little bit like how a superband has two or three albums which are cutting edge, then the creative juices seem to run out. Hasbara was a new benchmark in the art of propaganda, but it is seriously fraying at the edges now. The US propaganda effort has fallen off a cliff; it is not fooling anyone now but the fools. Providence is moving her spotlight onwards, and the Anglo-Zionists are slipping into the dark.
Saker
Nice job.
Amusing to see that something said by one Reince Priebus (is that a real earthling name ;D) has the comment section in a panic. No websayanim posting there… ;D
LOL! I thought almost the same the first time I heard such a name….
How the hell would his mom call him when a child? With the simple thing that would have been calling him Newt Gingrich, wouldn´t be?
I keep thinking ‘Prince Probis’……
Follow up: trump pointed out that both the Russians did not manipulate the u.s. prez election and that the usa should maintain good dip relations with Russia after being briefed by israel’s quislings.
My guess is he is being polite and non committal, while holding his cards against his chest. A rational thing to do, especially given the current circumstances.
Clarification: The “Report” was written specifically, as usual, for the poor, dumbed-down Western/American street. It will have some effect, but the Zionist/US Mass Media is deeply entrenched. It will take some considerable time to get them back on the right plain, (plain truth); and when that happens, we won’t need RT.
As for these words by the Saker, they are meant for the same people: The mindless minions with the narrow, irrational minds who have not yet learned to “Question More”.
But don’t become over-hopeful folks. This guy Trump is a newbee. We’ve heard some words from him, but let’s wait and see if he has any SAND. Maybe he LIKES to read funny-books.
DISCLAIMER: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within. 29, 2016/JAR-16-20296 dated December 29, 2016
A ‘collective’ intelligence service report offering no warranties on the intelligence it is reporting, prepared to WAR on the ‘intelligence it will not warranty,’ is as close to madness as I want to get.
It is haunting to realize global peace hangs on the fabrications of Ukrainian fascism and ‘crowdstrike’.
I guess they chose that brand name post Maidan/sniping, because that’s what they know best, and that’s what they intend to do.
Exuse me if I’m not entirely are joining the Hurray choir. When Trump says he will make “Russia respect the US much more than she does now” how are we supposed to interpret that in any other way than as a veiled threat?
Trumps historical ignorance? ” We won two world wars” (and saved Europe & Russia). OMG. Will Putin invite him for the victory day parade and the million marsch after that insult? Shall Russia look the other way? I hope not…
Learn to play the game and you will see where it is going. Over a few years US has increased its threats and denigration of Russia. This has caused Russian leadership to lose all respect for US. Note that respect is different to liking.
” We won two world wars” – I cannot speak for the Trumpster’s historical knowledge/analysis but I do know he is very good both for making elliptical statements and at telling people what they want to hear. In this case the domestic USA population -who, being exceptional and having Manifest Destiny etc., of course believe that in their hearts, and to whom there is zero to be gained by saying otherwise.
I doubt Putin will take it as an insult -he is way beyond that.
watching tucker carlson i got a good feeling about him….
until an interview where the ‘guest’ said about russia’s
”invasion of georgia and ukraine”
he never challenged that.
so much for group think.
America did win both world wars. Came in late both times to swoop up the spoils, after potentially playing a background role in instigating both conflagrations to weaken their competitors. This is why there has been no (official) world war three; they don’t have the balls to start one, and they then couldn’t come in late to steal the win. This is also why they are trying so hard to provoke Russia, they also know their own people will not buy into it unless they can manoeuvre someone into attacking them (Pearl Harbour 3?).
I don’t want to overstate what we do here, but the growing awareness among the People has been a very effective break on their military adventures. Their second Pearl Harbour didn’t provide political cover for very long after their illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq, they are worried if they pulled off another fake Pearl Harbour people at the moment would blame them for it.
I have been postulating for a while that the purpose of WWI was to decimate the domestic populations of the combatants who had become educated and radicalised by socialism and democracy. If our populations have similarly become aware of ruling class machinations, they might be inclined to clean the slate again. I have been pushing the line that they could call a war and we wouldn’t turn up; a peace movement by omission. Problem is they probably don’t need us to fight each other directly to kill us, they could just nuke us all.
This US intelligence report and their agencies computing experts don’t even know the difference between hacking and cracking!!!
From page 3 of the report: Background to “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections”: The Analytic Process and Cyber Incident Attribution:
“These election-related disclosures reflect a pattern of Russian intelligence using hacked information in targeted influence efforts against targets such as Olympic athletes and other foreign governments. Such efforts have included releasing or altering personal data, defacing websites, or releasing e- mails.”
According to RFC 1983 ( http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1983.html):
hacker
A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular. The term is often misused in a pejorative context, where “cracker” would be the correct term. See also: cracker.
cracker
A cracker is an individual who attempts to access computer systems without authorization. These individuals are often malicious, as opposed to hackers, and have many means at their disposal for breaking into a system. See also: hacker, Computer Emergency Response Team, Trojan Horse, virus, worm.
Imagine what the Justice Department will find when they initiate a real investigation of the financial dealings of members of Congress. And imagine the howls from the corporate media about witch-hunts and McCarthyism. I can hardly wait.
For additional information on report holes see:
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/01/07/us-report-still-lacks-proof-on-russia-hack/
Computer access threats are worldwide and hard to trace. See cracking attempt map:
http://threatmap.fortiguard.com/
I read the Saker article but not the almost universally despised and “pathetic” report yet.
I also read all the comments, which were quite good, as a group.
But my senses and extra senses are on the highest alert, because here ‘s what was on my computer screen as I resolved to visit the Vineyard very late this Sunday and opened up the internet:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-tanks-roll-into-germany-to-protect-against-potential-russian-invasion/ar-BBy31SL?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
The drumbeat is getting so stupid I get the sense something really desperate is in the works. Despite the reasonable hypotheses about deliberate incompetence being shown to undercut Obama’s orders. Propaganda is one thing. Propaganda mixed with more arms sent near Russia’s borders that psychos themselves may blow up and blame Putin for is another.
I watched Dr Strangelove yesterday, for the first time. My son ordered it, so I sat down and watched it and LMAO. Synchronicity?? Perhaps, but I am not in a laughing mood this Sunday evening.
The Rand report – Thinking the Unthinkable.
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html
“This research was sponsored by the Office of the Undersecretary of the Army and conducted within the RAND Arroyo Center’s Strategy, Doctrine, and Resources Program. R AND Arroyo Center, part of the RAND Corporation, is a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the United States Army.”
The US believe they could fight a naval war with China and using the right strategy, keep it conventional warfare and limited in scope. No doubt they also believe the same about a limited war with Russia.
An interesting article here at Fortruss. http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/01/us-tanks-pour-into-eastern-europe-what.html
The US deployments, although only a token force for full scale conventional war with Russia are deployed in such a way to perhaps make the taking of Kaliningrad feasible (feasible for the neo-cons).
I tried to think of the unthinkable, but I couldn’t think of anything.
The Rand org should be ‘randed’ up and used for medical experiments in Guantanamo Bay.
I admit I watch programs like Headline News, Worlds Apart, Sophie Co., sometimes Going Underground, the often wonderful documentaries, and little else. However much of the programming is unwatchable. Larry King, brutal. Thom Hartman, c’mon, at times laughable. Watching the Hawks gibberish. Boom bust, if I want to gaze at Ms. David or the lovely Bianca. Ed Harrison has always been a bit of a fraud. Otherwise, not much there. Least I mention Ed Shultz, how this guy warrants his own show is inexplicable. If the deep state is intimidated by RT what kind of morons inhabit their many agencies? All know the answer. One thing is certain, the truth is the hegemons’ kryptonite.
This is all a waste of time by a lame duck. The stakeholders at the international level are not interested in the froth and bubble of a dying administration. And the People, who are the target of this disinfo attack, are also dubious about anything that comes out of the American ‘intelligence’ community. Though I carry the scars of the Iraq invasion, I am often heartened to see the many ways that invasion shattered the political status-quo in the USA. As pathetic as the excuses for the Vietnam War were, they could be shoehorned into the general anti-communist propaganda line. The invasion of Iraq using fake intelligence has woken up so many people to how the world really works, it has almost been worth it. This whole GWOT misadventure was always a last-ditch effort to save the Empire (and the Ruling Class behind it); it has failed, broken against the steps of the Aleppo Citadel. Now just to stay out of the way of the flailing limbs of the dying animal until peace breaks out.
I feel like something (a lot) is missing here. Whether it is Trump or his hired hands that continue to muddle all the issues. I have read through all these posts and am not really enlightened. The intelligence report is rubbish. But there are so many contradictions, in Trumps tweets and his buddies public displays. It is easy to say he is ‘playing’ the field’ until he gets in office but this is guess (hope) work. I have a sinking feeling that all the intellectuals on this site are projecting their reasoning and desires of victory over neocons etc etc unto Trump. He is being made into a magician? I find it hard to convince myself that he is that good of an actor.
I spent some time wondering what the hell all this silly noise regarding “Russian Hacking”, and “Fake News” was actually all about. It made no sense to me that adults in high positions would push patently ridiculous stories-for-idiots through every media outlet they could muster.
I wonder no more. Though a variety of polls show nobody believes them, the “Russian Hacking” and “Fake News” memes serve well enough to mask a 2-pronged attack on American liberties. As things go pear shaped financially, economically and politically over the next couple of years, they will spread through the Western world.
Adequate to purpose, these memes served as smokescreens for dramatic political changes to the Republic that were occurring behind the curtains. These are now enshrined in law. One fundamentally undermines basic constitutional rights and freedoms, while the 2nd is a giant step towards even more of that.
The first shoe dropped in early December when Congress passed the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act. Buried deep within it is the Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act. Obama signed it into law on the Friday before Christmas, and just like that, the Federal government took on the power to silence political dissent under cover of “Fake News”.
Now, a 2nd shoe has dropped.
On Friday last, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson announced that his office has declared all aspects of US elections to be “critical infrastructure”, which the DHS is mandated to protect.
Johnson has said that the designation does “… nothing to change the role state and local governments have in administering and running elections” except “… for those (States) who request it.” but leaves unsaid how many states have “requested” it.
I expect the 3rd shoe to drop when States are denied federal money to run federal elections unless they “request” DHS assistance. As almost all the States are bankrupt, the slow Federale coup against the States will inexorably move forward. What was a constitutionally mandated State power to run elections as the States saw fit, will soon become a solely Federal power.
I further expect that the next meme in this series will be increasingly shrill calls for elimination of the Electoral College. I can hear them now. The “people’s will” should be the only deciding factor in elections!
Should that too come to pass, the USA might as well skip Federal elections altogether and just have the DHS send a smoke signal up the chimney whenever they’ve settled on a new President.
Just a few more bricks in the wall.
Let’s hope California will succeed in the secession currently in its embryonic stage – and then see how much ‘power’ is left with The Swamp.
That’s where most of the liberal excesses are coming from anyway.
Add Texas into the mix and it’s a done deal…
Looks like ‘the swamp’ may be drained using Russian and Chinese equipment.
I had such high hopes for America with the election of Obama.. He walked into the Whitehouse presidential and is leaving it like an Uncle Tom
It is clearly total bullshit. There is a simple celear unambiguous dead giveaway – no one, not even a pure political head of department / group, has put their name to it.
The use of the word ‘hack’ is distraction – a distraction from the leaks of damning information about the Obama regime and the Clinton regime-supposed-to-have-been.
Such information includes audio recordings of Kerry confirming the US has supported the rise of ISIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4phB-_pXDM
I think that it´s time to forget about the outgoing administration and start looking at what things will most probably look like in say, ten days onwards.
Reading how has evolutioned the language from, other times, moderated commenters here, one can not but feel increasingly scared, feeling that a hard core of Trump supporters were not but waiting for a person like him to go out of the wardrobe and start behaving as they always had desired, say, free of any constraint, both in language and in acts.
Just I was reading this article by Tom Engelhardt and, even when I did not know what had happened to those who had dared to oppose Trump as ordinary citizens ( and which reminds me the style of some organizations which are heavily represented in this blog ) I have always seen the conflict of interests present in a mandate of a transnational tycoon like Trump. Read the article and then you most probably would ask yourself why is that there are people here who deny Trump is a transnational oligarch and why all those facts about people harassed have been omited by the supossedly well informed people who comment here:
“Will Trump Make 1984 Look Like a Nursery Tale?”
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176225/tomgram%3A_engelhardt%2C_will_trump_make_1984_look_like_a_nursery_tale/#more
I’m not really sure what is meant by this post. The Tomdispatch post you linked is speculative fiction and presents itself as such. What do you mean by “what had happened to those who dare to oppose Trump”? FYI, he’s not in power yet.
Your post is confusing.
Are you saying a Clinton presidency was a more desire able outcome for the chances of world peace?
That she had no intention of starting a war with Russia?
That her involvement in the overthrow of Ghaddaffi and the destruction of Libya counts for nothing?
Or her role in the destruction of Yugoslavia? ( Yes, it was her then-president husband who gave the go-ahead, but those two are – politically – joined-at-the-hip).
Genuinely at a loss as to what ‘alternative’ realistically-speaking could be better…
And no, Stein did not have a chance, nor Bernie ( who didn’t notably object to the warmongering, unlike Trump who at least, sincerely or not, did) – the US electorate would never have given enough support to either to succeed in a presidential mandate.
Interested to know what was the ‘best’ outcome given the circumstances in your opinion.
The best outcome would have been rejecting the two candidates as unpresentable and force the government to repeat elections until someone with a bit of morality appears.
There have been several countries in Europe which have functioned without government for a while, some quite a time, and nothing has happened.
But, obviously there were pressure groups very interested in this kind of candidate.
I have no idea who was this Tom Engelhardt till now, but read his article in a Spanish alt-website, and despite giving credibility to some MSM, sounded me very factible that The Donald will be able to activate the “always enraged white supremacist” ( always enraged because that is their usual mood whatever be what happens in the world/home and so on ) via Twitter to throw them to against whoever steps in the middle of his areas of interests ( read his business ).
I fear the worst, not only by seeing who The Donald is, but also by seeing how are evolutioning their supporters at the doors of the take of power, losing shame to the forced march to display their real character, rude and agressive, people who promise themselves lucrative business with this presidency.
You can have for sure that not for a moment this kind of people are thinking in their fellow citizens, if no, they would think of them also when they express themselves, but, why they have changed so much now? Because now they think there are already free bar, since his president uses this kind of vocabulary and behaves the same, and so do their associated media like Breitbart and InfoWars, and so they interpret is no longer needed to appear disguised as what they are not. A dream for many, and you might know it.
Is it that you really believe that will come heaven on Earth?
Haveyou any reserve with the obvious conflicts of interests this presidency imply?
Please no attacks on other commenters – as it breaks the moderation policy. Mod
Okay, see what your point is.
I guess you just don’t ‘get’ US politics.
There definitely was no chance of the scenario you outline – that would require a non-politicized administration – civil service, police, military etc – to happen. It does not exist in the US – all institutional appointments are political, including the judiciary.
There is no way the electorate would have ‘waited’ for some ‘desirable’ or ‘moral’ candidate to emerge – they put Trump in power to a) solve unemployment/bring back manufacturing to US and b) to rollback the extremist identitarian politics of the DNC machine ( the ‘transgender bathroom wars’ being the latest example).
The ‘right/left’ dichotomy reality does not exist in any meaningful sense in the US – voters practice ‘realpolitik’, they do not concern themselves with ideals, but with what various cohorts percieve as advantageous to them.
As for ‘white supremacy’ being a Trump ‘philosophy’, I can tell you right that that is total bunk: I guarantee you that any size able ‘neonazi’ movement is bankrolled by Soros proxies/CIA/Zionists who distrust a Trump admin.
I would caution you a) not to confuse Breibart with Trump himself and b) to be aware that much of the agit-prop by BLM is Soros-funded/initiated: Trump actually got a lot of disillusioned black Democratic voters to take a risk with him.
So I repeat – what practical alternative was there in the actual circumstances for any better outcome to give peace a chance? You are aware it was Clinton-appointee Victoria Nuland who helped destabilize the Ukraine and bring fascists to power? Where did Trump do the equivalent if he’s such a ‘white supremacist’ as you claim?
And please don’t offer some fictional ‘moral candidate’ – hypotheticals are pointless. We can all ‘imagine’ our ideal scenario but reality dictates our choices.
So again, I have to assume your lack of realism is a mask that actually favoured Clinton.
Well, you can assume things about me and that is not considered an attack, but then my comment has been edited the way it suggests I was attacking you or anybody, what is not true.
I was only referencing one commenter who in the past made a whole post praising Trump as an example of anyone who promises heaven on Earth with his presidency.
Then I was saying that you seemed to me always very reasonable in your comments, but I am starting finding you quite changed also with this issue, which I find strange in you, but saying that, at least, you remained polite, but, then, now, your assumption in this last comment does not seem to me polite at all, since I have explained myself enough so as to you have clear that I do not support Clinton at all.
Since, for what it seems, those who does not support Trump here play with such disadvantage, I would say that this discussion ends here, I am not willing to allow that anyone makes appear my post like I was not trying to make, find it quite dishonest.
It does seem like there has been a shift in comments about Trump. At first, many commenters expressed concerns/criticisms of him, and of the possibilities for the Trump presidency. Now there is less of that.
Maybe most of The Saker’s followers are choosing to wait until Jan. 21st before critiquing him again. So stick with us, Anon! You may feel isolated and picked on today, but this could change in a few weeks.
Transgenderism is the least of our problems, I would say, and you speak as if it were already proven that The Donald is going to bring back all those jobs.
Is that not also hypothetical?
Why those hypothesis about The Donald ( all his promises ) are not pointless for you as you consider mine?
And yes, I am completely aware of who destabilized the Ukraine, since I am supporting Donbass since the beginning, and not only with words/comments,
Mentioning one commenter who promises himself heaven on Earth with this presidency is an attack?
In what way? That is only a reference, in fact the same commenter published a whole post praising The Donald which was deemed too fantastical by many here.
And who is to determine what candidate has the proper ‘morality’ and which candidate(s) are unpresentable?
In the last election, not quite over yet, the DNC was able to do a mock-selection of candidates which seems to be fine with most ‘Democrats’. But then, what is not fine with most ‘Democrats’? At the hearings today, it appears that the DNC has not even handed over the computers to the US Gestapo for examination.
Arguably, those DNC, allegedly hacked, computers are the only possibility of finding evidence there is.
The DNC are not interested and also, apparently, above the law. Not a peep out of the Gestapo about this little detail.
The Trump candidacy seems more legitimate by the fact that, apparently, no one in either party wanted him. Negative selection, true, but a legitimate process of sorts at least.
Noch ist Trump nicht in sein Amt eingeführt und irgendwie habe ich die Befürchtung, dass die Zeit wieder reif ist für einen politischen Mord.
Das ist die Furcht vieler von uns.
That is the fear of many of us.
Auslander
Nice and useful article, as usual. But I have to disagree with some of the background of this picture:
“But when the US tax payer spends many billions to fund not one, not two or three, but 16 intelligence agencies and all they can produce is this kind of total crap, this is a problem. A problem made worse by the fact that this kind of “intelligence” is what the President will use to have to make critical decisions, including the one to go to war or even to use nuclear weapons.”
I cannot accept blindly that the intelligence community is incompetent because they produced this “report”. They had to create something from an inexistant fact, what else would you expect? They know there’s nothing but had to say something. NSA or the FBI could not write: ‘It was us who did it’.
CIA knew of the inexistant Saddam’s WMD or Iranian nuclear arms programm. They seem to be rather competent, it’s the Government or the military that try to fool us with “we know undoubtedly that”, “we have clear info”, “we have proof that” etc. It doesn’t mean the agent on the ground made any mistake, any false assumption or missed something (or the HQ misunderstood all the infos from all the sources available). The US politicians have the right intel, I believe, but do whatever they want despite that.
I’m writing in a train, not sure if I was clear enough.
Apologies, I’m writing this before reading the actual DNI report, though I trust the Saker’s commentary on it is insightful.
I’m afraid my view on it is more pessimistic than most of the commenters here. (No criticism of them, my fandom of the Saker’s site is partially based on the comments that append to his posts.)
What could all those “intelligence” agencies be thinking, producing such an appalling waste of print/pixels? Anybody can see through it. Well, maybe that’s the point. Trump sees it, says it’s crap, threatens the CIA/FBI anew, and, (as another commenter has pointed out), there’s another “brick in the wall.” The “intelligence” community is threatened by an outsider, who’s unwilling to kowtow to their role, despite their presenting to him their best efforts. National security!! Time for “executive action,” if you get my drift.
That’s where all this is headed, IMHO. Times tough.
Could somebody who knows English well write about this
Im Juli 2016 besuchte BILD die Trollfabrik im russischen Sankt Petersburg, in der Sawtschuk damals arbeitete. In ihr arbeiten rund um die Uhr etwa 400 junge Menschen, meist zwischen 20 und 30 Jahren alt, für 640 bis 800 Euro im Monat. Sehr gutes Geld nach russischen Maßstäben!
http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump/ist-sie-putins-hackerin-49640846.bild.html
i) Bild is CIA controlled.
ii) One of the people who supposedly worked at a ‘troll factory’ is associated with a US cyberwarfare outfit InfoPeace.
iii) The ‘troll factory’ is uber secret, so no real details apresented, just as with the supposed ‘Russian hacking’ .
iv) Some RUssian running a penetration testing lab is targetted by sanctions for no specific reason other than the usual ‘the evidence is too secret to reveal’ bs. The implication is that she and others have the technology to hack into US systems, but so do numerous US, UK state and on-state organisations and individuals.
v) Bild is CIA controlled. Oh, I already said that.
Well… There is nothing new. The CIA actively trying to sabotage Reagan’s attempts to push the soviets out because of their worldview they couldn’t see in 80th the rapidly approaching disintegration of the SU. Although it was obvious to many (yours truly).
Political figures such as Sen. McCain, Graham, and President Obama are attempting to provoke a diplomatic crisis to prevent President-elect Trump from making overtures to Russia. McCain and Graham have their own reasons for doing so, but Obama is afraid Trump will succeed where he failed so miserably, embarrassing him.
I don’t think they will succeed in thwarting Trump.
The key difference is Obama wanted to be “friends” with Russia, but he didn’t understand that earning Putin’s friendship requires earning his respect. The cheesy red “Reset” button was ridiculous, and then Obama followed up that embarrassment with feckless policies, weakness, and senseless provocations. In short he was a perfect fool – and one thing is certain, Putin does not suffer fools.
What followed was several years of Obama huffing and puffing, making empty threats while Russia blatantly disrespected him, showing the world Obama is not a serious person, but a clown.
The big difference with Trump is getting Russia to “like” him is not the approach; nor is proving his “toughness” to domestic critics by taking “strong actions” against Russia (which they are desperately goading him to do). The Trump Administration approach will be based on mutual interests of both nations. Mutual interests that will be more aligned once Trump takes office and shifts American policy away from Obama’s “regime change, making the world safe for the Muslim Brotherhood” to “stability and peace”.
There will be points of agreement, such as fighting “radical Islamic terrorism” where Trump will be interested in winding down Obama’s war in Syria and cutting off funding and arms to the “moderates”.
There will be differences – namely, the status of Israel.
But the approach will be based on facts and principles, not words and emotion.
Assange tears up the “intelligence” report:
WikiLeaks Holds Press Conference Responding to CIA Report on US Election
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201701091049402268-wikileaks-presser-cia-report/
“The report, which was released on Friday, whose principal author is the CIA, and its current head John Brennan, is not an intelligence report. It does not have the structure of an intelligence report, it does not have the structure of a presidential daily briefing. It is frankly quite embarrassing, I think, to the reputation of the US intelligence services to be putting out something that claims to be a report like that,” Assange said.
“This is a press release. It is clearly designed for political effect,” he said during an audio conference broadcast by WikiLeaks.
He also said that the report is a “political attack cannon against Trump”, which is also aimed to explain why Hillary Clinton lost the US presidential election.
“The evidentiary weight [of the report] is literally zero, there is no evidence of any kind supplied,” Assange said.
“We are concerned about protecting our sources. If our source was a state, we would have had much less concern about protecting it,” Assange said.
The report is not even fabricated as there is no evidence in it, it contains only speculations, the Wikileaks founder said.”
He goes on to explain more and repeats this offer:
“Assange reaffirmed that Wikileaks will grant $30,000 for any information on employees in US President Obama’s administration destroying documents.”
A bit like the black blobs which were supposed to be proof of a Russian invasion of the Ukraine. Most people will listen to the sound bites and read the headlines and believe there is absolute proof that Russia hacked the US elections, whatever that they mean to them. Murica, I don’t believe a word you say.
The paranoiac beliefs of the Empire about people ‘hacking’ them exhibits a disgusting degree of self-importance. As if anyone would be interested in the dirty laundry of the Clintons which is hidden in plain sight. Bill’s pedophilia and sexual predations and their mutual bribe-clearing and money-laundering house, the Clinton Foundation.
Wikileaks holding net conference on ODNI ‘assessment’:
https://www.rt.com/news/373071-wikileaks-odni-report-hacking/
Humph……… When I stuff something at home, I blame the Cat ??
The Democrats are smarter than I, they blame Russia ??
I’ll think of this next time ?? Instead of the Cat, I’ll blame Russia ??
Evidence – much better evidence than has been produced so far – is building that any hacks – as opposed to leaks – that were done to the DNC were likely done by Ukrainian hackers as a false flag to get Russia blamed for them.
Everyone needs to read these articles:
Why Crowdstrike’s Russian Hacking Story Fell Apart – Say Hello to Fancy Bear
http://jfmxl.sdf.org/USA/20170103-why-crowdstrike-s-russian-hacking-story-fell-apart-say-hello-to-fancy-bear.html
Did a Ukrainian University Student Create Grizzly Steppe?
http://jfmxl.sdf.org/USA/20170106-petri-krohn-did-a-ukrainian-university-student-create-grizzly-steppe.html
Russia Hacking the Election the Inside Story
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/12/russia-hacking-election-inside-story-2.html
I had been suspicious of the Russian theory due to Jeffrey Carr’s articles on Medium (Google for them, they are vital to understanding the issues) which debunk most of the evidence. I wondered why it was that the equally logical possibility that Ukrainian hackers might have done the hacks as a false flag operation to frame Russian for them was being ignored completely.
I noted that the “evidence” that the compile times for the malware were allegedly during “Russian business hours.” If you look at the time zone maps, you’ll see Moscow is just one hour ahead of Kiev, Ukraine. So that “evidence” was meaningless.
Secondly, I read an article by WordFence, a company which does WordPress blog security, that the PHP malware used was provably Ukrainian and open source, i.e., available to anyone aware of it. There is nothing “Russian” about it.
Then I found the above articles which pretty clearly show connect the dots evidence that the head of CrowdStrike, the company that the FBI RELIED ON for the “evidence”, is run by an anti-Russian Russian ex-pat who has DIRECT connections to Ukrainian ultra-nationalists who are DIRECTLY connected to the Democratic National Committee and who themselves have DIRECT connections to apparently competent Ukrainian hackers. I mean these articles lay it out in chapter and verse based on publicly available data.
I now believe that it is entirely possible that the entire DNC “hack” accusation is a false flag operation organized by Ukrainian individuals, with or without Ukrainian state help, and with or without the knowledge of the Clinton campaign, for the purpose of further ruining US relations with Russia.
The DNC documents themselves were likely “leaked”, not “hacked”. But hacks were done solely for the purpose of getting Russia blamed for them.
Stay tuned. The last word is not the ODNI/FBI report.
After ‘war is peace’, ‘lie is truth’, ‘opression is freedom’, etc. now stupidity is intelligence.
The people who wrote this report may actually be as incompetent as they seem. However, it is also possible that they secretly wanted to undermine the “Russia Hacking” propaganda campaign and this stupid report is the result.
Thank you Saker. I have just read another good article on the subject by Robert David Steele on Global Research which complements very well your analysis:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-soft-coup-collapses-russia-did-not-hack-cia-bluffing-blackmail-revealed-what-next/5567311
Robert seems to think like so many others here and elsewhere that we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the Deep State in the USA. I personally think it’s far too early to make that assumption.
In response to “J.L.Seagull” above:
I also agree – I have had the same feeling about this “report”, that this can’t possibly be simple incompetence.
I hadn’t considered the possibility that it might be “forced” in the way that you describe; this is an intriguing possibility, though still that just doesn’t seem to quite make sense (at least to me).
My own suspicions lean in the direction of there being deeper levels of strategy, cunning, and malice behind this; to wit:
— The US (in collusion with France, the UK, &c.) has failed catastrophically in Syria, largely due to the brilliant diplomatic maneuvering and coordinated military strategy of Russia. Not only have US objectives in Syria been thoroughly undermined, but there are threatened both the collapse US influence across the Middle East, and the reorientation of the entire region into new Russian-centered structures. Even Turkey now seems to be finding and creating pretexts to move towards Russia and away from NATO.
— Thanks to the clumsy US provocations towards Russia and China (also Iran), they have been driven into alliance, rather than being kept separated and bickering as envisioned by Kissinger et al. And they are far to smart and far too aware to be simply driven apart again by for example bombing one of their embassies and trying to make it look like the other did it.
— Now, according to The Plan, America must contain and control the rise of Russia and China. But the game is up; they no longer follow, or agree, or trust, or even listen; even they begin now to openly mock and defy America. So what to do?? A new strategy is necessary…
— Well: Let’s say we bring in a Shiny New American President, who claims he wants to really turn things around now; be friends with Russia! Even lets make it easier for him to get started; give him some bogus reports about Russia meddling in US elections, that he can reject; dumb and pointless sanctions against Russia, that he can overturn; etc. Russia has soundly defeated the US in Syria; made the US fall flat on its face in Syria, in Turkey. Now Glamorous New President can swoop in, and start the process the process to Cozy back up to Russia… Maybe this is Kissinger’s hand again on the steering wheel, trying to steer the ship back on course one more time before he dies?
Thank you MD. Your interpretation is actually similar to something Pepe Escobar wrote for Sputnik last fall — he has a source who he considers a powerful Master of the Universe kind of guy, and that source said that closer friendship with Russia is in the cards for the truly powerful.
In case you or other readers didn’t know, Kissinger himself is actually quite friendly with Trump.
I’ve commented on earlier posts here that there seems to be a visible divide between two sides of America’s deep state. The media are 100% against Trump, but some businessmen are for him, such as his Cabinet picks.
I have heard from a trustworthy friend that some within the American intelligence community are taking an extremely long-term view on continuity of government, anticipating impending economic and environmental disasters as the illusion of global finance starts to crumble. I don’t think Trump is controlled outright, but in a political environment where no one wants to help him, it makes sense that these quieter parts of the deep state might be extending him secret support until he comes into power, which would strike fear into the Obama-Hillary camp and cause the sort of “forced reports” that I believe might be happening here. But my analysis is probably not all that meaningful, because if these reports were “forced” we will learn all the details of that in only two weeks’ time at the most.
Now they are trying to convince trump that the Russians tried to compromise him.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/
Just if anyone considers this a real thing – why didn’t they present it last week withthe DNI hearing?
Sorry, I shouldn’t say, – but from a foreigners view, the US looks like a Banana republic now (not that we are any better)
The real significance of the ODNI report is that facts are no more facts. they were replaced by ” agreement” which defines what will be presented as fact. fashioned fact is replaced by new “fact”. creations of deviant humans who rule world. just remind yourself of “facts” presented by Nazi about jewish people. they had “evidence” for their “facts”, they used calipers to measure heads of jews.
that is the way the modern world is functioning today.
“facts and evidence” serve today as prelude for in advance planned actions.
fashioned evidence were used to define future actions. no more.
my english is bad but i think i made point.
What is astonishing about this is not the gall, brazenness, corruption and sheer evil required to perjure and lie lie like this, but the incompetent, vulgar, imbecility which informs every sentence and every word.
With people like this at the helm, and not hanging from lamp-posts by the indignant wrath of the people, the US is not much more than a broken sewage treatment plant…. with nukes.