My name is Egor Prosvirnin, I am the chief editor of the Russian site sputnikipogrom.com which advocates European values. I’ve heard that one of the aspects of life that Europeans, and Germans especially, cherish is history. If we were to recall recent history, we would remember that a vast army of 300,000 Soviet troops along with 5,000 tanks, 1,500 aircraft and 10,000 artillery pieces (including tactical nuclear weapons) simply left the then just-united Germany without firing a shot.
It was an operation unprecedented in scope and brevity, when the entire Soviet army withdrew literally to open fields. Tens of thousands of Soviet officers, obeying the orders of the supreme command, went from their warm barracks to live in moldy tents set up in the middle of sodden snow-covered fields. In many instances along with their families.
For what?
For hope. Hope that the dark pages of history between our two countries were finally and forever past. Hope that we no longer have to keep armies of tanks in the center of Europe, and that Europe would respect and consider our interests. Hope that in a united Germany we would have a good friend and ally, with whom Russia would fulfill the dream of Charles de Gaulle of a united Europe stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
When our armies were leaving Germany, our soldiers were told that Germany had recognized and redeemed its mistakes of the past, there were no undecided issues with Germany, and that we would no longer hear German voices calling for retribution against Russia, therefore we did not need our Army of tanks positioned in the middle of Europe.
From that moment, Russians and Germans were friends, and friends have no need for vast armadas of armor and tanks. Russians should cease being afraid of a united Germany and disarm.
And we disarmed. And for 20 years we felt that we did the right thing, that the past is forgotten forever, and that the Germans appreciated how readily we closed all the bases and brought all the troops home (although there are American bases in Germany to date). In good times our friends know us; in troubled times we come to know our friends; and troubled times did come via the Ukrainian crisis. It became clear that the Germans do not remember the good. It turned out that the Germans did not learn the lessons of history, it seems that the Germans viewed the voluntary dismantling and withdrawal of our war machine not as humanism and goodwill, but weakness.
It turns out that when the Americans spoke loudly and sharply with the German chancellor, whom they for all these years have kept under surveillance like some sticky-fingered housemaid, the entire German society leaped up like a submissive dog running obediently to its American master…. even when the conflict with Russia goes against German economic and political interests. It seems therefore that if one blunts their sword, removes their armor, ceases the Soviet-era preparations for World War III, and is reaching out to the Germans, the Germans will spit in your extended hand at the first opportunity.
It turns out that Russians are yet again “Untermensch”, who can be savaged with impunity on the pages of the German press and punitive sanctions demanded from the rostrum of the Bundestag, while disallowing an opportunity for Russia to openly and equitably argue its case. It turns out, however, that the Ukrainian government can without any liability prohibit the Russian language, jail Russian activists, target residential neighborhoods with volleys of artillery, kill thousands of civilians who happen to be mostly Russian – and that’s OK. It is OK because it’s a “democracy”, and it suits Germany because Russians are “Untermensch”, because Russians are Jews whose blood for Germans is worth nothing. And what’s more, for trying to defend themselves, for attempting to return fire against the Ukrainian armed forces, Russians should be punished, publicly harassed, their will to resist broken, and then forced into an international Russian ghetto.
Then burn that ghetto, as the Trade Unions building in Odessa was burned with 49 pro-Russian protesters inside. Do you know how the Ukrainian social networks responded to this holocaust? By referring to the dead as “Colorado Shishkebabs”(*) – this is what tens of thousands of people in the Ukrainian social networks wrote, including indecent sayings copied into photos of the charred bodies.
We are again the subhumans, we are again nothing but animals that Ukrainian Nazis may kill with impunity, creating a “Russian-frei Ukraina”. According to the data collected by Human Rights Watch, only during this past July the Ukrainians killed one thousand one hundred fifty PEACEFUL RUSSIANS in the eastern part of the country, and these killings continue daily. Where are your protests, Germany? Where are your sanctions against Ukraine? Where is your vaunted humanism that you profess to have learned since 1945 by recognizing the errors from your past?
artwork by Josetxo Ezcurra |
Saur-Mogila, which is located on strategic heights and is a memorial to Russian soldiers who died there 70 years ago during a fierce battle with the Wehrmacht, has once again been stormed. This time by the Ukrainian battalion “Azov” wearing their Wolfsangel patches, a symbol of the 2nd, 4th and 34th SS divisions, and you are silent! Russian militia are ducking behind the granite statues of Soviet soldiers from neo-Nazi bullets fired by “the National Guard” of Ukraine, and you dare to agree with the American nonsense about “Russian aggression”! Ukrainians shoot cities with ballistic missiles, leaving craters in places homes once stood, and you impose sanctions not against Ukraine but against Russia!
Again, troops are killing unarmed Russian civilians, and you are debating whether it is time to start delivering weapons to these murderers so that they can kill more Russians? All of your vaunted “politics of memory” and “learning from the past” is simply a pile of dog shit, as again before your eyes unarmed civilians are butchered, and you applaud this and promise these Ukrainian murderers fresh financing.
You have not learned humanism, you Germans. You have not learned responsibility. You have not learned to resist Evil and tell that Evil clearly to its face, “No, you are the killer, I will not help you, you must stop the killing immediately.” You have not learned to be a responsible, independent, free people, who are capable of giving good in return for good.
You are slaves who think good is a weakness.
In 1934, Hitler drove you like sheep, and in 2014 Obama is your shepherd. If tomorrow in Germany, the Americans open a concentration camp for Russians, half of you will immediately submit their curriculum vitaefor jobs as operators of the gas chambers, and your press will start to explain how this camp is patriotic and good for the German economy. It would then follow that killing these Russian “Untermensch”, crafting lampshades out of their skin for daring to resist, and sending this nicely packaged to Washington to please your American ally.
Germans have failed their test. When Evil has returned again to Europe, you do not even attempt to resist it, and immediately fall prostrate at its feet like a slave after the eagerly-awaited, long delayed return of your master. Serve Evil, impose sanctions, support the murder of Russians, supply weapons to the killers of Russians, justify this genocide – the end of your story will be familiar, because Evil cannot win.
I will conclude this text with a popular quote from the famous American stateswoman Ms. Victoria Nuland, who obviously makes the decisions in Ukraine instead of your Chancellor:
“Fuck the EU”.
Like it or not, but admit that the Americans are a smart people capable of accurately determining the “price” of a united Germany and a united Europe.
source: http://sputnikipogrom.com/europe/germany/18213/russian-appeal/
At Ukrainian radio stations callers asking if the Russians might be sending the Ebola virus in the humanitarian convoy to wipe out Ukrainians.
lol. why should any german care for russians??
more than 50% (!!) of older germans will be poor in 2020. 60% in 2030.
Poor by definition of the law called hartz4 means:
no smoking ever
no alcohol ever
until you die!!!
Any questions why they do not care about anything else then themselves?
Another missed opportunity for Putin to stand up for Russia is gone.He called the Duma to Crimea and then gave a nothing speech.While a short space away neo-nazis are murdering Russian speakers.I thought he was different and would stand up for Russians.But daily he disappoints me more and more.Someone said that some in the military are telling him “if you don’t fight in Donbass you will be fighting in Crimea”.Very true words.And by then thousands more Russian speakers will be dead.He will face a united neo-nazi Ukraine.Certainly he will win.But many more Russians will die needlessly.
Situation in Donbass by August 14
[posted 14 August: 3:41 (Universal Time?)]
Briefly about the situation on the front lines.
LPR
1. Nobody is storming Luhansk. There is low-intensity shelling, and their intensity actually lowered somewhat…
2. …cut the road to Krasnodon…unexpected for the local command, the slow reaction stems from this. According to the sources, sweeping the road will take 1-2 days.
3. Humanitarian cargo systemically passes through a wide hole in the border…
4. On the territory of the former South cauldron at this moment there are no junta soldiers left…
DPR
1. An attempt to surround Gorlovka and break to Yenakiyevo at this time is unsuccessful…
2. The offensive on Ilovaysk apparently ran out of steam and currently the forces are regrouped for to resume it ASAP. Once again it was subjectively proved that during the assault of those settlements where the militia have sufficiently many forces, the junta typically fails…
3. Yesterday the information appeared that the militia took back Debaltsevo…
4. Torez, Shakhtyorsk, Snezhnoye, and Miusinsk are held by the militia, here the junta was pulled into low-perspective fighting, in which the strike capabilities of mechanized detachments are spent, to put it mildly, not in the best way. The positional nature of fighting allows the militia to use their artillery effectively and inflict losses on the junta military, which due to the nature of fighting, end up in self-styled “cauldrons”…
5. Yasinovataya continues to be subjects to massive shelling, but the attempts to enter the city end up being unsuccessful for the junta…The same thing happens with shelling of Donetsk too. Homes are destroyed, civilians die, social infrastructure crumbles, but despite the overall systemic nature of such actions (read war crimes), the military potential of the DPR effectively doesn’t suffer.
6. Krasnyi Luch was held, a part of roads was swept, so now we can confidently state that the plan of wide encirclement of Donetsk and Gorlovka failed for the second time…
Overall, the militia is holding on to crucial points and the junta offensive is not developing as rapidly as fascists would have it. Significant losses and low speed of advancing is clearly not something that will allow to achieve victory by August 24. Nevertheless the operative risks for the DPR are very serious. All reserves were deployed into action…
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Bolotov Resigned
…Overall, if Bolotov’s rule is evaluated, then he did a lot on the first stage of building the LPR and his role here is hard to deny. But after ending up at the top he didn’t have sufficient skill to combine the role of a politic and commander in chief.
Overall, it is stupid to demand such skills from Bolotov, if a person left service at the rank of staff sergeant of the VDV. He ruled like he could and knew, because at that moment in Luhansk there was nobody besides Bolotov and Mozgovoi. Something was working, something wasn’t.
But the situation demanded a more professional approach for managing war. So there is nothing surprising that in Donetsk and in Luhansk power was transferred to the military, and the political leadership was pushed to the background. The rotation certainly happened with the privity of Moscow.
-“Anon, I think this is an extremely well-written, emotional essay, written by someone, possibly in Eastern Ukraine. Maybe you should go and live there and see if you could write a better, more “objective” and equally well-written piece.”
This is a hysterical screed by a website that promotes and links to far-right Eurochauvinist propaganda like the Sweden Democrats’ “Salute to the European Youth.”
I think the ultimate irony is despite how much Western Europe is raping the Donbass right now, despite the fact that far-right activists from countries like Sweden and Germany have traveled to Ukraine to train in fascist militias, this site “Sputnik Pogrom” still continues to uphold the Eurochauvinist ideology as some kind of ideal to be emulated. How many more centuries of being treated as the slaves of Europe will be needed to convince Russians that European values themselves–not hypocrisy or whatever the hell this author seems to suggest–that the values themselves (and the constant self-critical referential gazing at the Western European holy land) are the problem?
-From the rant:
“You have not learned humanism, you Germans. You have not learned responsibility. You have not learned to resist Evil and tell that Evil clearly to its face,”
I think they learned humanistic values quite well. It’s no contradiction that what we regard today as “humanism” arose from the absolute apogee of the great Western European empires. John Stuart Mill, the great philosopher of human rights, worked in the colonial bureaucracy occupying India and provided the Empire some of its most eloquent intellectual defenses. Immanuel Kant, the great German philosopher, was one of the seminal founders of scientific racism.
Eurochauvinists understand perfectly what their ideology is all about. It’s fools like the author of this rant that takes at face value the sweet lies they tell their conquests.
I can just imagine Alexander Nevsky trying to submit himself as a vassal to the Teutonic invaders and their civilization and attempting to guilt the invaders into stopping their invasion. It’s beyond pathetic, and there is no a shred of dignity in this piece.
Any big rant full of hate against anyone is not going to help those families in Eastern Ukraine.
Any amount of hatred is great for venting pent up emotions but it will not help DONBASS or the victims of that terrible crime against humanity.
I suggest to the writer of this hateful rant to write some workable solution as to how to help the people in Eastern Ukraine.
Making clear for anyone how they hate some people will not solve anything will it?
I personally hate the DUTCH & think that the Dutch are 1000 times worse. two faced and racist Xenophobes who have become a parasitic culture of global exploitation. But Im not going to write a rant about it thinking it is somehow going to help save lives in Eastern Ukraine!
I am German & be happy to travel to Donbass, Rostov or Crimea to help volunteer for those refugees if the Russian federation would invite me.
The Ukrainian KIEV Nazis would just shoot me and make me disappear after torture.
So I really couldn’t see any sense in this hate filled rant against Germans in General. I think the writer is a full on Propaganda Journalist to elicit response or the writer needs some therapy for anger issues. Try some German wine or Ukrainian vodka if you still can.
As a German I am going to keep help, assist Russians or Ukrainians who are victims of this business of war no matter if the world calls me silly little names, NAZI or anything else.
Its elementary school insults & I have heard them for the last 30 years.
To the writer of all that pent up hatred & frustration.
I Hope you find the beauty in those people who try to make a positive difference whomever, whatever and wherever they are.
Even some Dutch people are nice. :)
Greetings from Berlin, Germany.
Hope you meet some nice Germans soon to change your mind.
My apologies for the nasty, evil, selfish and ZOMBIE opportunistic once that have gave you such a nasty impression of all Germans.
These names, nationalities, colors, religions are all just political labels manipulated by the ruling class to sow discontent & confusion in my opinion.
Meanwhile, how can we help Eastern Ukrainians from Germany?
@Ivan Lukic
I do not expect the Serbian government to be our ally today. IT would make no sense. Serbia had two wars with Europe recently – and was defeated twice. Neither we Russians nor Czechs nor anyone else stood strong enough for you. With such an experience i would never expect you to start a third hopeless fight.
OTOH i believe you government could at least stay neutral. The news that Beograd now waits to arrest Serbian volunteers if they would return from Ukraine is disturbing.
@Ivan Lukic
Here is the account how Russian decision-making happened in as late as 1999
http://www.posprikaz.ru/2014/03/sobytiya-v-yugoslavii-1999-goda-pouchitelnyj-urok-dlya-rossii/
And it came after economical fraud of 1998
And in the year when de facto Chechnya draw too optimistic conclusion out of our Kosovo capituation and invaded Russia.
Those three blows together we basically the calls to survive or perish. God knows why, we started to recover.
Although it has no significance, I feel like writing this:
As a German, I like to apologize for my government and the entire political class of Germay.
Many Germans do not agree with Merkel & Co., although that does not change anything.
I wish the russian people, in russia and elsewhere, all the best and a peaceful future for all of us.
PS: Please, Russia, stop Western Imperialism – in Syria, Ukraine etc.
PPS: I think, “good” Germans in the 30′ may have felt like we feel today: Nothing but lies and propaganda in the media and an economic situation that is “good” at the surface, but terrible once you look under the carpet.
WOW such hatred
Such generalizations
Such hatred against Germans?
How can one respond to such hostility & frustrated anger.
Hope you meet some nice Germans soon and realize that all basic people are all the same at birth.
Caring, innocent, full of hope.
Then the social brainwashing starts to try and fit us all into boxes & camps to be manipulated by the Elite puppet masters on top.
Has worked for thousands of years and according to this hateful piece it still worked on the author.
WOW good luck with so much hate
But what about the people in Eastern Ukraine? What can ordinary Germans possibly do to help & prove the author wrong?
K from Germany,
Thank you for your astute and really quite thought-provoking observations. What you’re describing is similar in so many ways to what I see here in America, and your last two points I think tie it up nicely: this lack of connectedness and/or the power to change anything in our lives are certainly due in large part to the Neoliberal version of capitalism now running the show. I only differ with you in that I do think, since this is all at the core of what’s going on right now, that it would be a good topic for discussion, whether on one thread or just various parts of many.
Lumi,
Agreed, and it would be lovely to be able to discuss these things in a troll-free environment. Given the swarms we get hit with here though, I don’t blame Saker for not wanting to touch any of it with a ten foot pole. And that’s really a shame, bc it’s a topic in which many facts are still lacking and a conversation that really needs to be held, bc there is guilt and wrongdoing on all sides. I just can’t figure out how that conversation could happen.
james@wpc, Arioch and Erebus,
I stand corrected. You all made some excellent points, especially re: the use of “the German government” vs. “Germans”, and how this only inflames old passions, the potential pro-West agenda of Sputnik and Pogrom, and how Germany and Europe have silently morphed in similar fashion as the US. These words really stick with me:
“While Russia was comatose, the world changed. Russia has risen from its near-death experience to regain its Russian-ness, but its neighbours have moved, replaced by simulacra, war-bots and empty suits. Therein lies the crux of the matter.”
But it’s not just Russia that was comatose: most of the people in my country, and I am guessing quite a few others, may not have been exactly comatose, but we were too busy doing other things to notice how the entire world changed around us, in damned near every way that matters.
In this article Paul Craig Roberts reiterates exactly who is the friend and who is the foe.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/08/13/washington-chokes-truth-lies-paul-craig-roberts/
@One of those Evil Germans
As a Russian i am sorry to hear this.
I can only say that other Sputnik and Pogrom articles provoke the zeal between different groups of Russians to between Russians and Ukrainians.
This site is famous for greeting 22-06-1941 as the lucky date when Russia gave a fight to Communists.
Please do no think this shock-content site does represent the general Russian sentiment. It does misrepresent it in the ugly dividing forms. So that someone else would conquer us one after another.
I am half German and I live in Germany. I am sick and tired of the shameful Germans in this thread who say that one should not blame the normal German folks for the crimes of their government. And then they enumerate stupid excuses. They elected their own government, they are not storming the streets in response to its governments crimes. Thus Germans as a people are complicit, period. There are no excuses.
An individual may be excused, there isn’t much that an individual on his own can do. But Germans AS A PEOPLE are guilty. It is absolutely unacceptable that Germans once again support nazis against Russians. There can be no excuse for this.
There are Many People who think that it is better for British Prime Minister David Cameron to be put on Trial, and then put to Death if he is found Guilty of not doing all in his power to avoid WW 3, rather than to have WW 3.
There are Many People who think that these steps should go a little slower so that the British Public can understand, because of the Commonwealth of Nations, and because the British Prime Minister may listen to reason by his advisers at https://www.google.com.au/search?q=pistol&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5bTsU6g7hKCiBOeFghA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1120&bih=640 .
Message from a “proud” German (a few dozen comments back):
“This is entitled »Russian Appeal to Germany«. I feel this is a misnomer. It should be entitled »Rant on Germany by Egor Prosvirnin«. I wish it had not been published. It is unpresentable. It will not appeal (I know) to any German with a minimum of self-esteem. It’ll only appeal to utterly misguided anti-German fringe figures (Antifa teens and twens). I know because I’m German.
(1) As soon as you start the »Nazi« meme ordinary Germans will start ignoring you. Triggers disgust that, due to educational conditioning, is rarely voiced as such. People are sick and tired of it but somehow have learned that they are not allowed to say so, at least not publicly. Anti Nazi indoctrination starts in childhood and continues through MSM all your life.
(2) Very significant parts of the historiography on NS is lies and hoaxes. You mentioned the lampshades – a totally ridiculous one, invented by the Americans. I’m almost surprised you didn’t mention the soap – an equally ridiculous one, invented by the Soviets. There’s a lot more to it, but this is not the place to talk about it.
(3) NS *never* talked about »russische Untermenschen«. This kind of claim is only possible because when it’s about »Nazis«, people feel fact-checking is dispensable. After all, demanding proof would be tantamount to outing oneself as a »Nazi sympathizer«. (Have to add that there was a somewhat racist element to the NS propaganda against the Soviet Union, in which they showed images of Asian looking Siberian troops and matched that up with »bolshevism« and the history of Asian nomadic hordes invading Central Europe in past centuries. But I would say that the American racist anti-Japanese propaganda was much uglier than the German anti-Bolshevist propaganda.)”
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So I guess the solution is to retool the message so as to not offend the sensibilities of an EU-German political entity that has totally recovered from its decades of “anti-Nazi brainwashing.” You can see how they even think the Nazi deopopulation program wasn’t even all that racist.
Well, gee, I guess if 26 million dead in a race war wasn’t all that racist, what’s a few thousand more Russians in the Donbass?
Go worship to European values some more, SputnikMorons.
Egor Prosvirnin is entitled to his opinion, as everybody else, but calling this piece an “appeal” is completely wrong. I find it offensive and insulting; it’s not right to label Germans the way he does. “A slap in the face” (les at 04:26) to get a positive reaction, indeed.
Excellent! Indeed, fuck the EU and shame on Germany.
I am also a German and I would like to respond especially to K from Germany.
First off, K is wrong in suggesting that Germans are by and large apathetic. We have to distinguish between different kinds of Germans, especially between more ordinary working class people and the “managerial class”. Working class people in Germany are often apathetic, so much is true, although they equally often understand what is going on surprisingly well even without reading many books or newspapers. It’s another matter with the semi-elite – more or less well educated professional people who keep the country going on a daily basis (what is often called the “managerial class”). You see, in Germany it’s no different than in any other country, which means that, to make any kind of career, you have to be opportunistic. So, people like this – businesspeople, senior engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. – typically watch the major news shows and read one or two major newspapers to be able to know what the talking points are at any point of time. And these people, I hate to say it, seem to be jumping on the anti-Russian bandwagon right now.
That’s my impression from talking to friends and relatives. Polls seem to show that even the wider population is buying the anti-Russian propaganda but my point is that especially the people who have something to say in German society seem to be doing the so.
Where it will lead we don’t know
but there is certainly an anti-Russian undercurrent in Germany that’s disturbing.
This brings me to my second point, which is more related to the original article. It is where this undercurrent really comes from. The article is, unfortunately, correct in diagnosing that it is a widespread attitude holding that Russians are Untermenschen. It’s as simple as that. You can notice it at many places – what and how journalists write and say about the Russia and the Russian people, ordinary Germans derogatorily using the expression “der Russe” (“the Russian”) when they mean the Russians, cultural contacts broken off by public officials etc. etc.
It’s really a shame to have to diagnose that, but it is the way it is.
My feeling is that, other than digging up old attitudes towards Russians as Untermenschen, there is a widespread feeling that Russia is weak and that we can afford it to treat it like that. The only countermeasure to that is steadfastness and projecting an image of strength. In so far the Russian leadership is right about
not getting bogged down in a military adventure in Eastern Ukraine while, the the same time, hitting hard and astutely on the sanctions front.
Minor question of fact about Germany, maybe addressed in comments (don’t read them all): Is the former East Germany (including East Berlin) covered by the post-WW2 agreements giving the Western allies some kind of intervention rights in their own zones ? Can the German government act independently, without interference, in the former Soviet zone ? Have the Western allies moved troops into the former Soviet zone ?
It’s about time that Germans got off their knees, came to their senses, and threw the German based US/UK troops out of their country. If they don’t, they are likely to have their country flattened alongside the rest of Europe for a third time in the space of a hundred years. Do Germans really want to die to preserve the US/UK financial order?
The effect of the article published above is to create divisions between the ordinary people of Germany and Russia (and other countries as well). This is curious because the stated purpose of the article is to ‘appeal to the Germans’ but it is obviously doing the opposite.
So what’s going on with this article?
I think we have a general consensus at “the Vineyard” that the people everywhere need to unite against the Powers That Be. They are the ones that infest every nation and cause every war to further their thieving and their power over the rest of us.
The only division worth promoting is between the psychopaths, wherever we find them, and the rest of us in every country.
Every other division we support weakens us and strengthens the psychopaths and therefore makes war more likely.
Jim,
For months, every news outlet in the West was demonizing and threatening Russia and Putin personally. No matter if I looked at the German Bild or Der Spiegel, British Telegraph or Daily Mail, Dutch newspapers and TV, France and of course the US.
Like I said a couple of days ago, it looked like the tone of the messengers has changed. No more threatening about Phase 3 sanctions from politicians, and therefore a different tone from their propaganda news outlets. Even the powerful German Handelsblatt had a very strong and realistic article that the Western news media were taking the wrong path with their threatening and demonizing. On TV and in the news media they now even show destroyed houses in Eastern Ukraine which they didn’t do before and completely ignored the damage and humanitarian disaster over there.
But all this after Putin showed his teeth very strongly only once, with 1 sanction, the food ban. I didn’t hear or see anything anymore from Brussels about retaliation against Russia. Maybe it’s silence before the storm but I think that Brussels doesn’t know what happened to them and they don’t have a plan B to tackle this problem.
The EU and US must have thought that if they arranged a coup in the Ukraine and threatened Russia with sanctions that Russia would only think about their economy and wouldn’t do anything. The EU thought they just had to give a couple of dollars to the Ukraine and everything would have been fine and Ukraine would be in the Western sphere.
They never expected that Russia would right away take Crimea. They also find out how bankrupt, corrupt and crazy the Kiev politicians really are. Instead of having to give a couple of billion, the Ukraine needs tens of billions, it’s a black hole, plus they’re destroying their own country and even threatening to stop the gas transit from Russia to the EU. Besides that the EU never thought that their economies would be hurt by Russian sanctions.
If somebody thinks that his opponent is weak because he keeps quiet then people have the tendency to become overconfident, thinking that silence is weakness. I learned one thing in the past with my karate lessons, never underestimate your opponent, no matter how small and thin they’re looking.
CIGA Richard
The article is well written and very factual. I agree completely and for those that don’t I regard as paid trolls.
94 killed in Donetsk and Lugansk in the last two days.
Artillery is doing a fine job of ethnic cleansing.
UN estimated only 60 per day were dying. Maybe counting the day’s dead is slow work.
Red Cross, our friends in Switzerland who are busy sanctioning everything Russian, have done nothing, which is their specialty in behalf of humanity.
That leaves the people being bombarded with their trust in God.
The militia is defenseless against Kiev’s long reach with deadly shelling.
Meanwhile, not a word from Strelkov.
Lugansk changed military leader. From a sergeant to an old major.
Meanwhile Fox and CNN hypothesize that on those shrink-wrapped pallets inside those white trucks coming from Russia are soldiers and weapons.
“It’s Logistics”, goes the advertisements. Let UPS handle your cargo.
@ Aninymous at 8.40:
You wrote: “(I know that germany has a 1949 constitution, the Grundgesetz Basic Law,but did
they get to write it!are they happy with it!)”
Yes, they did ‘get’ to write it themselves, and yes, they were happy with it.
What so many forget who rant against Germany or other European countries is that Brussels, i.e. the EU, has slowly taken over, that most laws are now made in Brussels but unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.
As for the article: I find it astonishing that editors and indeed a whole lot of ordinary people still assume that what is said in a country’s MSM is the opinion of ‘the people’.
It is not – as a glance on the comments pages of any online publication will show, be they German, English, French.
Please think about this: we’re now living in times where the politicians and top bureaucrats of all our countries have more in common with each other and act accordingly, than they have with us, the people, whom the proclaim to represent.
Let´s recap on that Fuck the EU statement:
Here´s the famous Youtube clip where the
U.S diplomats were captured red handed
discussing the script for the then upcoming
regime coup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL_GShyGv3o
First, thanks to Saker for publishing this flawed piece. It is important to hear a full range of perspectives, especially those that offer strong rhetoric that may confirm prejudices or harden positions or lead to flawed policies. We are offered the opportunity to make critiques, corrections, etc.
Is there any indisputable content at all to the category “European values” or any discernible content to the category “the smart American people”?
In my opinion, most so called western countries – and perhaps all the rest – now have entered into – or perhaps more precisely have been manipulated into and stumbled groggily into – a deep and wide cultural confusion and dysfunction.
Nevertheless, on a personal level, here in Canada, I have encountered a large majority of good people when it comes to one on one, or volunteer community efforts. But everyone has been subjected to a continual bombardment of large-picture-related disinformation – lies, spin, missing critical information, trivial distractions etc – since before birth. Thus there is extreme meta-political ,and serious civic, dysfunction.
So how is it that all these good people could cheer on or be apathetic towards a continual parade of depravity from far off? In my opinion the heart of the problem is at the executive level, the elite level, the oligarchic level, the ‘command and control’ level, of society: in effect, no matter what the façade, extreme pathology is now typically dominant. And this mis-leading and deranged leadership infects much of the underneath.
So for example, there is a little known book, written about Health Canada by Shiv Chopra, PhD, long time HC employee. The book’s title is Corrupt to the Core. Incidentally, something similar could with reason be said for the WHO or say the US FDA, etc. But within Health Canada there are, no doubt, some perhaps even many good people, well intentioned, even honorable. Chopra himself qualifies as the latter.
It seems to me that one basic problem we face is what we might call ‘the mechanism of appointment.’ That is, executives in a wide range of institutions are in effect appointed by – in Canada for example, the Prime Minister has nominal powers of appointment pertaining to thousands of positions– whoever actually dominates politics.
This dominant problematic process of top-down appointment could theoretically be ditched in many cases and instead democratized – including direct democratic procedures – and made transparent, and subject to full critical discourse. Theoretically.
The Rule of the Game
You read here and in many other places that the western governments do not represent the people they rule over. People like those called upon in this writing fell they are misaddressed. A few clear words are needed to address this issue:
If you pay taxes or participate in elections or simply respect government institutions that means you are part of it. You may wait for new elections, blame the mass-media or the conspiracies of the super-rich – at least in my eyes it doesn’t wash away the blood that is on your hands as well as the rest of the population of any country destroying other peoples life.
What are the alternatives a person has when he faces the fact that he is a participant in a crime. First – stop participation. Second – stop participation. Third – stop the crime.
Q
Strelkov has been dismissed or has changed jobs.
At this meeting, the Council of Ministers approved the request of resignation from the post of Minister of Defense DNI Colonel Igor Strelkov in connection with his transfer to another job, the press center of the DNI.
Prime Minister Alexander explained Zaharchenko present, which will perform the important work of Igor Shooters.
In connection with the release of the said office, the Minister of Defence appointed Vladimir Kononov. This appointment shall be made tomorrow for the approval of the Supreme Council.
Vladimir Kononov informed the participants about the situation at the front.
At the meeting would be voiced by order of the Commander Supreme Council DNR Alexander Zaharchenko on the introduction of the Ministry of Defence as the First Deputy Defense – Chief of the General Staff.
Has been appointed Nikolai Gunmen, who will also be imposed tomorrow for the approval of the Supreme Council of the NPT. “
STRELKOV IS OUT.
Said to be actually wounded; perhaps in Sevastopol.
Replaced by Kononov.
God help Novorossia, and Igor Strelkov.
I found most of the replies by germans pathetic. Yea none of us in any country have much say in what our government does. They are all corrupt and only out to make a buck off of anyone!
Thats all true.. Not many people voted for Hitler.. Around 20% of voters from what I recall.. Which was like less than 10% of the population.. But the majority of the population enjoyed the things hitler provided.. Heck even I am impressed by what all he had done for germany. I only got disgusted after he turned russians into subhumans. And although many germans protested and the white rose was brave enough to tell that, most honorable germans started opposing hitler after they figured out what would happen to themselves when hitler lost the war. The same as we are witnessing now with Russia.
On the other hand most of the US are drones. BUT many people are brave enough to face the music.. maybe not enough to make any difference but there seems to be a lot more Americans willing to oppose their government which is a totalitarian fascist state like nazi germany than the germans of today. At least the japanese readily admit, they have no honor, they lost the war and now obey what ever command they are given. If the germans do not think they matter, then well they should readily admit they have no honor as well. Whining does not help.
Being neither german or russian, I see mostly from a neutral point of view. I see the dangers of US policy.. They have been so arrogant that they have forgotten that others on the planet do think they matter and their lives matter. Maybe not to US policy makers.. If others are not willing to oppose a genocidal policy to wipe out life on the planet then they dont deserve a dignified existence. They should be alarmed and out on the streets at the dangerous course their government is on. The US is in lalala land. As their stock market shows. As it always was and is. Europeans should know better.. Poles should be terrified! They only lost 25% of their population in WW2 and would lose 100% in WW3..
Now that I’ve re-read this appeal — I’m convinced its another mossad-cia-mi5-pysop to divide and conquer. Not saying some Russians don’t “feel” dissed by the EU and Germans in particular — but this is really stupid and meant to drive a wedge. Methinks there are LOTS of ZIO trolls on this site. But Saker should know better than to publish them. Just saying. AGS
OT: Hey Angela and Bobby. It’s time to re-form the party. Your legacy, that of your people and the future of America is at stake.
Every city from Los Angeles to Chicago to D.C. –
The revolution starts now.
– from Nazi-occupied Amerika
Hi,
Somebody read that great essay of the publisher of the most influential German financial paper: “Handelsblatt” lately ?
I personally prefer to do business with this Gabor Steingart who is handling this crises in the mind of Willy Brandt, than with this selfish, over-simplified man from that oh so religious Russia—as Saker is pretending so bigoted, Brrr.
And believe me I am disgusted by the bribed European politicians; in the Netherlands and all the other countries of the EEG
Ah. The Strelkov thing – possibly a promotion (who knows at this point?). And he’ s not injured – good.
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/14/08/2014/942987.shtml#xtor=AL-%5Binternal_traffic%5D–%5Brbc.ru%5D-%5Bmain_body%5D-%5Bitem_1
Ann,
Nora beat me to it:-)
Though, most quoted English version is due to Longfellow, 1845.
early recorded form of sentiment by Euripides circa 405 BC ‘The Bacchae’, line 882, translated as:
“Slow but sure moves the might of the gods”.
Earliest printed version is ‘Sextus Empiricus Against Professors’ (perhaps specifically *Against* the Grammarians) I.xiii.287, who quotes it as an existing Greek adage and gives a Latin form:
ὀψε θɛῷν ἀλέουσίμύλοί, ἀλέουσί δε λɛρṯά,
Est mola tarda dei, verum molit illa minuti
“The mills of the gods are late to grind, but they grind small”.
Also,Other versions given in Plutarch (Moralia)
*Earliest English* version is recorded by George Herbert, (died 1633, published 1640):
“Gods Mill grinds slow, but sure.”
1640 George Herbert Outlandish Proverbs no. 747
And….here are a few more words on Justice:
“Justice renders to every one his due”.
Cicero, De Legibus (c. 43 BC)I, 15
“The foundations of justice are that no one shall suffer wrong; then, that the public good be promoted”
Cicero, De Officiis (44 BC), I. 10
“Now my friends, I am opposed to the system of society in which we live today, not because I lack the natural equipment to do for myself but because I am not satisfied to make myself comfortable knowing that there are thousands of my fellow men who suffer for the barest necessities of life. We were taught under the old ethic that man’s business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Thousands of years ago the question was asked: “Am I my brother’s keeper?” That question has never yet been answered in a way that is satisfactory to civilized society.
Yes, I am my brother’s keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself. What would you think of me if I were capable of seating myself at a table and gorging myself with food and saw about me the children of my fellow beings starving to death?”
—Eugene V. Debs in The Issue, a speech delivered at Girard, Kansas (23 May 1908)
“Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”
— Frederick Douglass Speech on the twenty-fourth anniversary of Emancipation in the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C. (April 1886
And I leave you with these last three which some of my favorites:
“We ought always to deal justly, not only with those who are just to us, but likewise to those who endeavor to injure us; and this, for fear lest by rendering them evil for evil, we should fall into the same vice.”
-Hierocles, as quoted in Ladies Companion Vol. XIII
“There is more owing her than is paid; and more shall be paid her than she’ll demand.”
-William Shakespeare, All’s Well That Ends Well (1600s), Act I, scene 3, line 107
“Whoever fights, whoever falls,
Justice conquers evermore.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson, Voluntaries
Shame! For shame, Saker, that you publish this opportunistic drivel from Prosvirnin, a man who would sell himself to anyone who would buy it.
Do you all remember how this fascist was on Hromadske.tv during Maidan 1.0 talking about how great it was that Ukronazis he met in the square seemed to be warm and cordial towards the Russian far right?
Shame!
Anonymous 13:17
God, that’s *exactly* how I feel right now! Absolutely. But it is significant, bc isn’t it exactly what most people who see what’s going in really feel?
Are you truly as helpless there as we are here? Can you affect, or dump, Merkel, for example? It would seem that your business and agricultural sectors would have second thoughts, and I’ve read that your public, at least, is more aware than ours. Is there really no recourse for you?
Part 1 of the post
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This comment should be posted on the Sitrep by Mindfriedo, but anyway it is connected to the fight also in Ukraine as a cover up for the new country called big Israel.
In many languages it is a very well known proverb that under the lamp there is a dark too.
If this information is true as it looks like, than we shouldn’t be surprised what is going on. The good news is, that the fight is going on and every day we learn something new about this world fighting fraud. I’m just wondering if these parasitic people came here to our planet from somewhere else where they have previously destroyed another planer. Mars or similar??? And now they are going after us, but we just simply we are not going to give up this fight in an easy way
Ooh, he’s mad. And rightly so. Translated this into Serbian.
Somewhat off-topic, the quisling government of Serbia has – following Washington’s orders – come out against the Serbs fighting for the DNR/LPR, denouncing them as “mercenaries” and “traitors”.
Meanwhile, two former Serbian soldiers were captured as actual mercenaries, fighting for the Ukies (no condemnation of those, natch). I hope they suffer the fate prescribed by the lyrics of “The Sacred War” – pour encourager les autres.
Though not German, as an Austrian I have to agree with various critics of this rant, that it is itself racist and liable to do more harm than good with its passionate and unfair generalisations.
The majority in all Western countries is zombified and dumbed down by our social arrangements, only dimly growing aware how we have been betrayed and stabbed in the back by the anglozionist-guided media and politicians. Even so, I would imagine far more Germans or Austrians see beyond the corrupt bullshit, than the US or Canadian or Australian public. So why single out Germans for this special hatred and hysterical reproaches?
The general public in Germany is not doing anything different from the general public in the rest of Europe. Even many Donbass citizens prefer to sit out the conflict in a safe area.
The author, if he is even sincere, completely overestimates the possibilities of the normal citizen in our deeply dysfunctional and corrupt states. As a German I would not feel shamed by this, but merely turned off by the constant Nazi references.
@123abc:
Just like you I am half German, living in Germany. And I couldn’t agree with you any less. Your obvious self hatred and despising of your own people makes me sad. Your arrogant, self righteous tone is completely out of place. By your logic the British, the Americans, the French, pretty much everybody is complicit as a people, since I haven’t seen any of them storming the streets because of what happens. Realistically, how can we expect that if the media is hiding the truth everywhere and there are still too many unaware of the lies they are fed every day. Considering that those becoming aware are openly voicing their dissent I am confident that the Germans as a people, and most of all other peoples are not in favor of what is unfolding in the Ukraine. As all people the Germans have many flaws and are not without guilt, but they are not deserving of your attitude. Nestbeschmutzer is the last thing needed here.
What does it mean in these times to warm up national idendity.
The piece written let me ask whether this already is the official statement to justifie the bomb-a of the German labor plant.
Part 2 of the post
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The unfortunate fact about most
English-speakers, many of whom
have ample access to do so, never
bother to learn a second or third
language. Therefore the “official”
information which circulates within the Anglosphere remains highly-controlled.
But, thanks to the Internet and to
YouTube, what’s not on government-
sanctioned TV can be shown here.
This clip is an automated text-to-
voice of a French article, translated into English with a slideshow of corroborating images originally published here.
SUMMARY:
“Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called
‘Caliph,’ the head of ISIL(Islamic
State in Iraq and the Levant) [aka
ISIS] is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden and from Iranian intelligence, a Mossad-trained operative named Elliot Shimon.
“Elliot Shimon, aka Al-Baghdadi was
born of two Jewish parents and is a
Mossad agent…trained in espionage
and psychological warfare against
Arab and Islamic societies.
“This information has been published by other newspapers and websites with claims that the Leader of the”Caliphate,” “al-Baghdadi” is working with the intelligence agencies of the US, UK and Israel to create an organization capable
of attracting terrorist extremists
from around the world. (Source:
Radio ajyal.com).
“Another source corroborating this
statement is the site, Egy-press:
“With photo support, Iranian media
reveals the true identity of the
“Emir Daash”, a trained Zionist agent.
“Iranian intelligence discovered the true identity of the Emir Daash, known under the name Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi;his real name is Elliot Shimon…His false
‘real’ [cover] name is Ibrahim ibn Awad ibn Ibrahim Al Badri Arradoui Hoseini.
“The plan: get into the military and civilian heart of the countries that are declared as a threat to Israel, in
order to destroy same, in order to
facilitate the takeover by the Zionist state of a large swathe of the Middle East, in order to establish ‘Greater Israel.’
Part3 of the comment
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“These are the borders of this Zionist project, the ‘Greater Israel’ or ‘EretzIsrael’ for short.
[This image, by the way is published on Britam.org, a sitewhich espouses”British Israelism: (aka Anglo-Israelism),
a doctrine based on the hypothesis that people of Western European descent,particularly those in Great Britain, are the direct lineal descendants of the “Ten
Lost Tribes of Israel.” (I thought there were supposed to be 12?)
[Although these tenets have been refuted by evidence from modern genetic,linguistic, archaeological and philological research, this belief continues to have a
significant following,particularly within the former British Empire, where it was introduced in the 1870s].
“These statements strongly suggest that ISIS/ISIL was deliberately created to sow chaos in countries surrounding Israel and recently, ISIS announced that it will soon
take down the ‘barbarians Jews’ [referring to the Israel] for their recent razing of Gaza.
“After devastating an area of Israel [in what would be the Mother of all False Flag
Operations], this will then allow the Americans and the Israelis to…shoot faster,in order to defend the Zionist state – after
having rather conspicuously let them[ISIS/ISIL] proliferate and to act with impunity for over two months [to recruit and train], while the worlds’ attention has
been diverted by the Malaysian Airlines crash in Ukraine in addition to the Ebola scare,
they’ve been busy causing the complete destabilization of Iraq.
“After gathering the most fanatical of the world in one place [largely seething Arabs and other homicidal non-Arabs from all over the world], a veritable Army of the Devil has been created, filled with bloodthirsty murderers without mercy for their [now, largely Christian]victims, murdering with a vengeance and
in cold blood, filming their atrocities and immediately relaying these on social
networks [to ensure the justified outrage of the West against this bogus, Sharia’ Caliphate’], which most definitely must be stopped; a consummate False Flag Operation of epic proportions.”
Video (almost 2 and a half mins):
French Report: ISIS Leader is Not Arab http://www.ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.com/page/26603.html
123abc,
It must be horrible to hate half of yourself so deeply. There is nothing Germans AS A PEOPLE are guilty for AS A PEOPLE. Absolutely, positively nothing, zero, zilch, nada. That’s just typical racist, hate-filled, hasbarat crap, and it’s getting rather thick on this post. Wonder why…
Anonymous 13:55
Your thoughts on the managerical class are intriguing, and I’m thinking that applies to a certain extent in the US as well. Our ordinary people, especially the older ones most likely to vote, tend to be poorly informed and easily manipulated by appeals to their baser emotions: hatred, panic and rage. They also connect and relate quite well to what Robert Snefjella wrote at 15:06 about the extreme pathology at higher levels.
Anonymous 14:12
Ain’t nuthin’ factual ’bout lampshades and soap. Sorry. Perhaps the shoe fits on someone else’s foot — like yours?
Carmel by the Sea,
Wow. I kind of knew he’d gotten it from one or another classical source — but wow. I won’t tell you how long ago I last read Cicero, but I’m truly impressed with your compendium, and sure loved seeing Douglass and Debs included!
http://i-m-ho.livejournal.com/1999561.html
Odessa today.
May 2nd he organised the mass-murder
Today he is a head of the regional government
“Soon it will be Main Street where the Hellfires strike.”
Fine with me. As long as it’s Main Street, Hamptons, N.Y. or anywhere the neocons call home. Bring it!!!
@ariadnatheo
Agree in full. This in certainly not the way to win support in Germany for the pro-russian Ukrainians. It rather will serve as a propaganda tool for any remaining true german nazis. Bad article.
Anonymous 16:18, 16:30, 16:31
That is verrrry interesting indeed. I’d read before that he was Mossad-trained, and these guys certainly lack any Muslim reticence re: bombing mosques, to put it mildly. Oh, and if anyone’s interested, here are some pretty pictures of John McInsane with “Al Baghdadi” , which of course is a huge surprise to approximately no one. Penny’s got an awful lot of good stuff on just how hinky this Yazidi “rescue” effort is, among other things; I posted one the other day that was just terrific about how, uh, un-mountainous and un-rescue-y the media pix were, but she’s got so much more up there now it’s really worth a good look-see: http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/
@Nora: Penny’s got an awful lot of good stuff on just how hinky this Yazidi “rescue” effort is, among other things…
Now you believe me when I say that they are all in cahoots, including Obama and Putin.
Ukraine is an illusion also, to a certain extent.
Netanyahu days are numbered, InshaAllah.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
akrainer at 08:25,
Thank you so much for your post! Your focus on the Rothschild agreement is very important to this entire discussion.
I am reminded that in the Occupy movement the best mantra we were given was “We are the 99 percent”. I still have my sign with that inclusive statement on it, and it applies globally as well as within nations.
The only correction to it, and you make that clear, is that it is not really the one percent we are ruled by but the .01 percent of the one percent – oligarchs with enough billions to remain permanently in the shadows, until something like this ‘agreement’ is triggered. May the Russians be able to overcome it!
I cannot imagine Putin speaking to anyone in the tones of this address, and no more would I. It does no one any good. That period of history is behind us, particularly as there was a public accounting for the crimes of that war and more than a full generation has passed.
It is the crimes of this generation we need to address.
german unification was opposed vehemently by one country and one country only-england.
Russia and germany have common enemy the english theiving race.
better to destroy england for ever than ht each otehrs.
Sparing the Brits/French at Dunkirk was just one of Hitler’s multiple peace offers. But the satanists needed Germany’s annihilation before all Europe could be mastered.
Hitler let the entire British Army and much of the French army escape
Yes; Hitler let the entire British Army and much of the French army escape at Dunkirk (he ordered the German tanks stopped when they were about ten miles from Dunkirk). About 350,000 soldiers escaped and nearly all of them returned to fight the Germans.
The British effort to keep Central Asia (Russian and China) from aligning with central Europe, (Germany) against the maritime powers (the British and the US) was described by H.J. Mackinder in the following 1904 essay. It makes clear by inference that the Anglo-Americans are determined to keep Germany and Russia separated, if not killing one another, at any cost, lest they combine their resources and know-how to challenge Anglo-American dominence.
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The crusade of the Anglo-Saxons is about pure colonialist exploitation. Essentially it’s a thuggish state in its foundation and in its technology.
Here we’re talking about a state which is fundamentally thuggish, because its very basis is thuggery towards other states
Origin of the first world war-plotted by the English pirates against Russia and Germany.
“The kaiser was absolutely correct. The Secret Elite was prepared to use any nation as a cat’s-paw, and Russia became the victim of British trickery, manipulated into a different treaty that was designed not to protect her or the peace of Europe but to enable the Secret Elite to destroy Germany.”
“The Secret Elite did not accept that German economic and industrial success was a just reward for their investment in better education and new technology. Together with its burgeoning industry, and a brand-new merchant fleet that promised future colonial expansion , Germany was also beginning to invest in oil production in Romania and Galicia. This was even more alarming because the Secret Elite knew just how strategically important oil was for future industrial development and warfare. The German threat had to be removed, and war was the only means by which that could be achieved.
……”and he shared the Secret Elite philosophy for world dominance by the Anglo-Saxon race.”
…….”France and Russia were needed in a new capacity: as Britain’s friends and allies…..but were enacted for one single purpose: to throttle Germany.”
They clearly identified Germany as the enemy at the Empire’s gate and understood immediately that, on its own, Britain could not destroy her as a continental power.
28/05/2014.
You Germans should have listened to what Otto von Bismarck had to say, ie. to stay on friendly terms with Russia and China. Had you listened to him, then two world wars would not have been fought and today you would be richer than you are.
Nato is an instrument of anglo england to control Europe through American arms. Both world wars were plotted and started by england to ruin Germany and Russia.
Yesterday Avakov and Yatzenyuk denied Russian humanitarian column to pass.
Moscow hinted they think the situation gloomy enough to make the column to by any means.
So… Here we are. Columns goes with the military guards.
freecrimea.livejournal.com/23373.html
So APCs are confirmed by Ronald who is on the list I went you a link of accompanying journalists
It makes a lot of sense – I myself thought that if convoy dares to pass despite Avakov and Yatzenyuk prohibited it, then it better have some cover.
Now the west has two tough choices.
1. Attack convoy for the invasion that is not real invasion yet, this proving that military cover was required and destroying humanitarian mission and creating casus belli for nuking.
2. Let it slide and see APCs going away with empty trucks – creating a precedent for our limited peacekeeping incursions.
All plots r done by the evil english nation -read dumas interview-they pass the blame2 jews if turned unpopular.
England is head of the family. USA is just the loud mouthed son with a fancy car.
Even after french ex minster Dumas saying that english planned syrian terrorism years ago-rus talks?
england is running a WW3 agasint all non anglo nations ofociurse it needs american arms for that.
Gulf war plotted by witch thatcher, first iraq war by criminal tony blair-this syrian by english rat
only when wars become unpopular the english stoptaking credit for that nd let blame b placed on Jews
and stupid people including hitler blamed jews while it was all along the english parasites who loot.
england lives off protection money from the international criminals who get asylum in england 4 money.
biggest money laundering is done by the english race in london calling it service industry.
There is nothing these anglosaxon creatures enjoy more than hating others, either the poor and downtrodden, those of other races or religions.
anglophile kissinger promised british controlled gulf monarchies protection run by the british -usa.
World war one and two plotted and started by england.
Napoleaon’s attack on Russia plotted by england(to which the Great Napoleaon himself admitted).
Considering the extent of the disaster(at battle of Auterlitzs and of Ulm before that in 1805 instigated by england with money stolen from India), The Austrian Emperor said
“THE ENGLISH ARE DEALERS OF HUMAN FLESH, THEY PAY OTHERS TO FIGHT AT THEIR PLACE”.
The Emperor forgot to mention that the payment is from the victim or some other pople’s wealth.
And English are too coward to fight on their own-they have never won a single war on their own since boar war in 1899 and that too with all resources of loot from empire.
With a force that peaked at almost half a million men, more than double the entire Boer population of the Transvaal, against an estimated 40,000 Boers in the field, the British expected an easy victory. Easy?
Docherty, Gerry; MacGregor, James (2013-07-04). Hidden History: The Secret Origins of the First World War (Kindle Locations 753-755). Mainstream Publishing. Kindle Edition.
4th June, 2007.
President Putin is wrong when he says that russia should or will target the missile on europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Europe.
Russia with massive nukes must target england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world.
look how Germany wes vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong.
in fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM against Russia. BBc spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation.in other word accept fraudulent win of bush for sake of england ! “
-such is the evil propaganda of British spies inside america. .
poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards.
It is no use targeting Poland -target the main villain which is england and the english nation which must be stopped now.
james at wpc:
“The only division worth promoting is between the psychopaths, wherever we find them, and the rest of us in every country.”
Well said, james, and worth repeating!
Yes, Kremlin switched to play rough.
And that is why I think the column really has nothing but humanitarian aid.
See, all this road along, Kiev invited Moscow to start the war, and arranged it in damned if you do damned if you don’t scheme.
Now Moscow does the same. Kiev can destcoy the convoy – and there would be nothing found but food and water. And ukrainian social networks we discussing his to preempt Moscow by creating false flag convoy of their own. Or Kiev can swallow it and let it go, basically admitting Russian humanitarian missions with military incursions for missions safety.
The former option would destroy Poroshenko image in the Eastern Ukraine and somewhat damage it in the West. The latter one would render him goofy before his own “nationally-aware ukrainian patriots” calling them to revitalize near suppressed EuroMaidan.
This all after Kiev Rada cloned Hitler’s Patriotic Act today, and both ukrainian media and EuroMaidan promised tomorrow a press conference about it.
Insane mix.
Russia puts itself into medium-term easy target position. But. It sets an IMMEDIATE problem for Poroshenko, it has no good solution for.
@American Kulak said…
and this:
http://sputnikipogrom.com/angryrussians/18078/your-fight-nor-ours/
Just a note to American Kulak. While I appreciate your overall sentiment, I have to say you are wrong about many American conservatives. A large segment have gone over the the libertarian movement. They have abandoned the republican party. Libertarians are fully opposed to US imperialism and aggression. It is the American liberal that, ironically, now stands in support of the US regime and is unquestioningly accepting the russophobic propaganda. Progressives are a different breed, although many respected progressive websites are virtually silent on the issue or devoid of meaningful content re: Ukraine/Russia. The terms of the US culture war are shifting, though many have not noticed. In part, this may because Washington is preying upon rural Americans very aggressively. They have become energized and radicalized because of this and are becoming much more aware of what is going on than are most liberals. Some of the best writing in America is coming out of rural people now. See, for example, Farm Wars: http://farmwars.info/
Efforts by Washington and the MSM to stereotype these people and label them as homegrown “terrorists” are aimed at discrediting and silencing them. They are a powerful and increasingly radicalized force. We need to stop standing on their toes.
This is the kind of war Washington is waging on rural Americans.
http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/michigan-dept-of-agri-forces-farmer-to-dump-248-gallons-of-organic-milk-and-break-1200-free-range-eggs-07222014
They know what this is about. They understand the globalists. For years, people like Glenn Beck have been informing them of the agenda while smug American liberals stood on the sidelines ridiculing them as stupid lunatics.
For years now I have been reading on both left and right. They are simply not who we think they are.
Germans have a complex of superiority, and do not see anyone but themselves. But they fear the strongest: we will see when the game is finished, whom they will fear the most, Americans or Russians?
Anonymous said…
Emm, I think many people took the letter as a response to the entire West. Germany is hardly the leading culprit in this matter. Everyone knows this. I think people hoped Merkel would make a different choice. Obviously, the bulk of the blame falls on Washington and then on the UK and secondarily on many others.
juliana,
“It is the crimes of this generation we need to address.”
This. And the issue we’ve got under contention right now is how best to do that. I’ve been fence-sitting on this brouhaha bc, as much as I see a Zionist influence in this piece and question the worth of attacking the German people for what their leaders do, there also seems to be no little worth in a Russian, even a Fifth Columnish Russian, expressing anger at any of the countries now treating Russia the way they are. Sometimes remaining above the fray can be grossly misinterpreted, especially by Westerners who’ve lived under “might makes right” for so long they have no awareness of anything else.
But yes, it *is* the crimes of this generation we need to address. Lord knows there are enough of them — and enough of us. It’s about time each of us (here I go again) start figuring out how we can best contribute to the effort of stopping the crimes and bringing the damned perps to justice.
Anonymous 20:41,
Israel Shamir noted waaaay back in the day that the current Culture Wars demarcation really missed the boat bc the true lineup was more Business As Usual Centrists vs the opposition, who really had far more in common than they realized. So, instead of a line, he pictured a circle. I think that’s even more true now — basically it’s the awake vs. the sleeping; we all just need to recognize that, and unite around the serious issues we have in common rather than the far more minor ones that still divide us. Support for the unarmed, innocent people of Ferguson being brutalized and shot by cops playing IDF would be a good place to start.
@ Arioch, about Serbs and Serbia, Empire managed to put their pupets in power. Empire also controls practially all media in Serbia. However, even after 20 years of doing everything possible to destroy us, despite the fact that they control “our” polititians, media, many intelectuals, cultural institutions, e.c.t, e.c.t, they still couldn’t change pro-Rusian orientation of the Serb nation. (That’s one of the main resons why are we targeted for the total distraction by Empire). But no meter what, Serb will allways feel strong bond with Russians.
ioCarmel by the Sea – This is my favorite speech by Eugene Debs:
“Your Honor,years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”
What a great soul he was!
Well, I would say that NOT ALL GERMANS are agreeing with NAZTO/US/EU & they are against NAZTO/US/EU coup in Ukraine.
But they are afraid to voice their opinion due to HATE SPEECH laws of Germany enforced by politicians & judges from the “Most Moral Nation on Earth”
See Germans HATE SPEECH & DEFAMING THE DEATH LAWS ect..ect..
Another question youshould ask yourself, how many soldiers in NAZTO German Army will go & fight Russia for Ukraine?, Ooops I mean the Most Moral Nation on Earth??
How can Russians think that Germans can be their friends is beyond me. German antagonism towards Slavs is legendary. They ethnically cleaned Slavic population in Germany, who they call Wends and there are only 100 000 of them left. To this day they have absolutely no rights, it is scary how oppressed these people still are in “democratic” Germany. The only Slavs they can tolerate are those who agree to be their vassals, whoever is refusing that, shouldn’t exist.
Russians they especially hate, because they won the WWII and completely humiliated Germans, and they don’t like to be humiliated. Hitler started WWII, because Germans were angry for losing WWI and they couldn’t wait to start another war. Hitler wasn’t alone, he had 50 million Germans supporting him, just like Merkel has millions today supporting her politics and advising of her boy Klitscko on how to start shooting of police officers in Maidan. What Russians saw as “goodwill”, Germans saw as an opportunity to get their revenge and they wasted no time. After collapse of Berlin wall, they started to carefully “cultivate” their Nazi allies, every nation that marched on Stalingrad was supported by Germany in past 20 years. Nazism started to rise in Eu long time ago, with German blessing, like in Baltic States were Nazi holidays are being celebrated publicly.
Germans can play dumb all they want and blame it on Jews, that’s nothing new, Jews were financing Hitler as well, Jews would finance Satan himself. They can be insulted by Russian “rants”, but Russians are insulted by their constant direct or indirect involvement in killings of their people or people who they consider close. Whoever doesn’t support German government has nothing to be insulted by, I don’t support my government in almost anything and their decisions have nothing to do with me, if people think they are incompetent morons they are absolutely right, I agree.
Rgds,
M.
K of Germany:
Was the most sincere testimony I read them.
Mother’s side, grandfather (fought in World War I), grandmother (it was from a Jewish family), uncle – came to Brazil shortly after WW I, one born in Brazil, aunt and my mother,, as Austrians acted this way (only my mother is still alive is 82 years old).
I’m lucky to have a great-grandson of Polish father whose family came to Brazil around 1870 – even as a great-grandson of immigrants living in the colony, indoors only spoke Polish.
Grew that European duality and today, at age 52 consider myself Brazilian.
School, College, Master, met all sorts of interactions with Japanese native Indians of Brazil, black, everyone my age who had or had problems due to their parents being immigrants in this great and generous land called Brazil Portuguese colonized by a people who have historically reputed to be kind, welcoming and tolerant – sometimes very tolerant sociologically.
The “schwartz”, “mi schlequen oach” (lick my ass), swearing in German do not quite know how to spell and translation from Portuguese to English Google is terrible, part of my upbringing.
I was surprised by his testimony interesting, took me round in neurons, saw “flashe’s” last, something from my childhood when in company of the Austrian part of my family.
K:
I can tell you with his mouth full as Brazilian:
Fuck Europe.
You would be welcome in Brazil.
Bration there.
* Note – I am not politically correct, I write what I think, be damned opinions to the contrary, and as the Saker says, I act. must be because of the slavic blood Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Proftel (do Brasil).
Carmel by the Sea
Wow. Thanks for the lesson in Greek. The quote by Debs…that was a black man, right ? How Christian in the best sense of the word…thanks very much for this..
“concentration camp for Russians” will not happen on the part of the US. That is absurd. I do understand why Russia is attempting to re-control Eastern Ukraine from historical value, but more from current value as a gas production area. Unfortunately, the latest/greatest wars have been over gas and oil reserves. Ownerships or benefactors. … The FACT that most of Russian speaking Eastern Ukraine would rather be a part of Russia should be of no surprise. Stop your thoughts about Germany. They are of no concern to me or to them.
I agree 1000% with everything in this letter.