I often get justly criticized for using designations like “the West” or “Anglos” because they are misnomers. Frankly, I have to plead guilty to this offense because yes, I do use them, and yes, they are misnomers. Even saying “the Ukrainians” or “the Russians” is an oversimplification. My only defense is to say that I have to assume that the readers of this blog are intelligent and educated enough to understand that when I say, for example, “the Americans” I do not mean every single citizen of the United State any more than when I say “the Germans” in the context of WWII I mean every single living German person of that time. Still, I regularly feel a little guilty about using such possibly ambiguous categories and I welcome the opportunity to set the record strait.
Just today an anonymous poster wrote in a comment that Israel did not support the USA in the Ukrainian crisis. I fully agreed and posted the following reply:
That is quite true and it is too bad that people often lump Israelis with AngloZionists because, as you correctly point out, the Israelis are generally backing Russia in this case. For example, Israel has offered to help Crimea get water (http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1793436.html) although in the end the Russian military will end up providing the water by building a pipeline under the water. There are just too many Russian Jews in Israel not to realize that the Ukie regime is neo-Nazi and racist. Besides, Bandera was never popular amongst Russian Jews for obvious reasons.
The topic of Russian-Israeli relations in a fascinating and very complex one which really would deserve a full analysis, and if/when things cool down in the Ukraine I will write one, but today I just wanted to illustrate that even my “AngloZionist” category, by which I still stand as being basically correct, can lead to misinterpretation and that even “Zionist” and “Israeli” can, in some instances, be two very different things.
One of my correspondents today sent me some beautiful pictures taken in Vienna with his cellphone which show that the category “the West” also should only be understood as “those who rule over the West” (just like all these other categories should really be understood as preceded by “those who rule over”).
While official Europe is de-facto backing neo-Nazis, while the western official historiography is increasingly trying erase the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler, while Russia is neither invited to, or even congratulated with, celebrations of Victory Day – there are some people in the West who, of course, remember the truth and do act on it.
Thanks to “D” for sending me these photos and giving me the opportunity to address the issue of the categories I use on this blog.
The Saker
PS: look at the amount of flowers people brought!
Saker, I’ll try to be very careful in the labels I choose but really, the bottom line is, in Europe and the Americas at the very least, but plenty of other places as well, we’re all in the same boat. Not only have we been deliberately divided internally into almost-warring “teams”, but whatever institutions of representative government we might once have had have been subverted to deny us actual representation. Meanwhile our standards of living deteriorate, all the money flows ever-upward and any voice we once might have had is progressively silenced.
The problem is what to do about it and, ironically enough, I’m trying to channel Putin here, at least in terms of the process we might use, if not the content. I.e., we’ve got to think non-linearly, a combination of judo and chess or, to quote Pepe Escobar, Lao Tzu and Tao Te Ching. Please help me here, everybody, because the best I can come up with is starting by trying to unite warring factions inside a country based on common perceptions, needs and goals — and right there I have to sit down, shake my head and wait till the despair passes. Help!
Hi Nora,
Excellent post and I couldnt agree with you more. Unfortunately I believe the rot has set in too deep for any individual or group to do anything about it at the present time. The hyenas have taken over for now and joe blogs is too busy trying to survive in an abyssmally low pay and high tax economy to take any notice, or has his own vested interests in the system to protect.
I do think however when things kick off big style, and with the short sighted and incompetent morons now ruling the west this is not a question of if but of when, and when the actions of their so called leaders start bringing horror and destruction right to the home front then and only then will the sheeple wake up from their apathy and maybe just maybe come together and act as one to put a stop to the madness of the military industrial complex and the 1percenters who control it.
Israel is simply playing the old game of playing both sides of a conflict. Zionists in the U.S. and Europe can take the anti-Russian line while Israel keeps it’s options open.
We’ve seen this time and time again in Israeli history and prior to it with the international Zionist movement. For example, Zionists lobbied both sides during WWI.
To think that sayanim in America, Britain, and France aren’t collaborating with Israel on this is naive.
This is a very good point. The popular quasi istoriography promoted by Discovery channel and like promotes II world war where only The West had a leading role. For example. in Serbia, where common people are now very obedient to the Empire, there is no common feeling of gratefulness for liberation in II world war. Everything is forgotten in spite on so many victims. The population wants only more consumption and status. In the same time, Serbia is in total decline, population is shrinking etc.
“Anglo-Zionist” is a extremely crude term that ignores history. You really should create another one, because this one smacks of ignorant anti-semitism and an overwrought imagination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
I supported Germany in WWII, because Germany was fighting the Jews and Bolsheviks. But now that the Jews and Bolsheviks have switched sides and are now in power in the West, I support Russia.
Speaking of Russian-Israeli relations. It is nowadays easily forgotten that it was Stalin who was instrumental in creation of the state of Israel, and moreover – that he did it in face of a strong opposition from the USA government at the time. How times change…
If you understand Russian, for a most interesting and informative interview on the topic, conducted on 24 July 2010 by the Russian radio channel “Eho Moskvi” (Эхо Москвы) with the known Soviet and Russian journalist Leonid Mlechin (Леонид Михайлович Млечин):
“Stalin. Creation of the state of Israel” (Сталин. Создание государства Израиль)
[text] http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/staliname/696896-echo.html
[audio, 46:08] http://www.echo.msk.ru/sounds/696896.html
Hi Saker,
here is a powerful picture from
St. Petersburg:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img845/40/on3h.jpg
Incidentally, your term “AngloZionists” is both accurate and precise, as it exceptionally well reflects the present political realities. (Not only that you should not stop using it, I have adopted it from you in my own writings, both in English and in other languages which I use on the network.)
I think “the west” is really a term invented by the propagandists and brought into circulation by the presstitutes. This exaggeration is absolutely necessary for them. The peak was when John Kerry spoke that “the world” condemns this and that. In reality the parasites are extremely few, so in order to be taken seriously they have to create the perception where they speak for as many as possible.
One important antidote to this is the meme of about the 99% and 1%.
Another utterly vile example is the division of the world into 1st world, 2nd world, 3rd world. Think about it, they divide the world in three worlds, the best/smartest/civilized/herrenrasse/masters, then the so-so guys who still have a lot of homework to do, and the barbarians/idiots/untermenschen/slaves. Same thing with Piigs, Brics. None of this is said by accident.
To this one important antidote is the meme about multipolar world, instead of unipolar.
Ever wondered what word “the west” really means? It is not Mediterranean civilisation of greece, Italy,spain or even France. it is not north western european civilisation of germany or scandinavia. In fact all these countries have been spied upon by the nations who call and self designate themselves “the west” -a nation otherwise known as 5 Eyes !- A combination of england, usa,canada ,newzealand and australia- disparate nations geographically and not even european but esssentially anglosaxon race nations. A race based concept really. West is euphemism for anglos- it does not include any of other white european nations not even the most westerly european nation of Ireland! The word “west” is a fraud to distract from real actors behind the scene-the 5 eyes.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/04/26/360112/germans-should-go-free-from-us-yoke/
Time Germans too demand referendum – for independence from US yoke.
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An Englishman offered that NATO was designed to keep America in Europe, Germany down, and Russia out. Its hard to fathom why Germany would be interested in NATO. Teutons are just as much victims of nato.
Anon,
That is indeed a POWERFUL picture! Thanks for sharing it here, and I hope you are spamming it all over the internet!!!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img845/40/on3h.jpg
“Frankly, I have to plead guilty to this offense because yes, I do use them, and yes, they are misnomers.”
Does that mean you will stop referring to Catholics with the inaccurate “Protestant” pejorative of “Papists?” I recall that you once told me you called us “papists” in order to avoid a misnomer. But, hey, if you use the terms “Americans” and “Anglos” in full knowledge of them being misnomers, then why do you single out the “Papists” for such precise, logically rigorous (and pedantic) treatment? I’m not attempting to start a fight, or to argue one way or another, I am just pointing out that none of us are as ideologically-neutral as we represent ourselves to be. We all have our prejudices, Saker, and I wouldn’t dream of begrudging you yours, but I am glad you can admit (even if only indirectly) that you call us papists not on grounds logical precision, but because of a personal choice informed by a parochial ideology. Best regards!
MOSCOW. May 12 (Interfax) – The leaders of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) are ready for talks with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, DPR government co-chairman Myroslav Rudenko told Interfax.
“We certainly remember what happened after Germany became, among other European countries, a guarantor of talks during the Euromaidan demonstrations in Kyiv. Despite all these guarantees, militants still toppled the incumbent government and seized power. So while talking to him is possible, we have not forgotten what happened,” Rudenko said.
The German foreign minister said earlier that he will arrive in Kyiv on Tuesday, according to Western European media outlets.
He also told reporters in Brussels that during his trip to Ukraine he will visit the southeast of the country.
Steinmeier is set to persuade the fighting forces in the Ukraine that launching a dialogue is the only way out of the conflict.
Right.
How beautiful that red flag there.
Nevermind the millions that have perished under the enlightenment that it symbolises.
So, national-socialism is hateful, etc, etc. And of course, we can’t refer to every single German when we say “the Germans” in WW2.
You might as well, because Hitler had popular support in a scale that the Soviet intelligentsia never even dreamed of.
So, instead of
“while the western official historiography is increasingly trying erase the role of the Soviet Union in defeating Hitler”
one could then properly write:
“while the western official historiography is increasingly trying erase the role of Stalin in defeating Germany”,
no?
A few posts back you said that Russia or the Russians were enslaved to communism. So one gets confused: when slaves act while being enslaved they are not doing but their master’s bidding, correct? Therefore, when you talk about the role of Soviet Russia defeating the anti-christ in person, you are in effect talking about the role the Russian slaves had in defeating their master’s enemy?
How is it then? Were the enslaved Russians fighting for “freedom” or for their masters? Or their masters’ freedom? Or perhaps both the slaves’ and masters’ interests conveniently aligned?
And what about the wonderful deeds of the Red Army (and the other Allied armies, but the Red takes away the cup) in the immediate post-war such as – to name one thing only – mass indiscriminate rape, which is well documented albeit rarely spoken of? Such joy for the occupied I imagine… Truly worth celebrating… Was it still the Russians there or was it slaves?
I don’t want to say that you’re trying to whitewash the Soviets and their wonderful deeds. I understand that there is a need to reinforce national pride, awareness, etc.
But doing that at the expense of the Germans – for Germany did follow Hitler and they didn’t strike me as slaves – who suffered at least as much at the hands of the Allied armies (not to mention the bombings) as the Russians at the hand of the invading Whermacht – cannot help but convey the message that the war isn’t, after all, over…
And then there’s the last half-decade where little countries that had nothing to do with the mess in Eastern Europe had to deal with an aggressive Soviet neo-imperialism (and it’s gringo correspondent) that did nothing other than cause havoc, anarchy and destruction wherever it got it’s hands on. Was it Russians then, or was it slaves? Was, say, Daniel Solod a slave or was he Russian?
Ah, almost forgot: you, like most people, when talking about national-socialism (from what I’ve able to observe at least) make a point in being as subjective as possible; it’s always: hateful, evil, etc, etc. We all know that. It’s been ceaselessly pounded in our ears for the last 60 years… but I’m still waiting on the promised post about NS, so I’d like to make a suggestion: can the discussion include the economic aspects of NS policy? In other words: are you able to describe and criticise the Reich’s economic and labour policies and strategies? What was the currency based on? How did the State influence the economy and work conditions? How did Germany conducted trade with other countries, and things like that?
And then you can compare it to the Soviet model and the liberal western model.
That would be really interesting.
Thanks.
About wrong names: “America” is a CONTINENT, from Strait of Bering to Argentina.
Chile is America, Mexico is America, Venezuela is America, and yes, also USA is America.
The other hand, “Americans” are the PEOPLES who live in “America”.
So chileans are americans, venezuelans are americans, not only “USAns” are americans.
Please stop stealing names (or use quotation marks)… :)
@ Nora,
Try watching this scene from the movie Shooter, it sums up the 1% vs the rest of humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhADUuFITo
Hello Saker and all,
Do you think this is propaganda or is it the proof of what many of us knew from the beginning?
http://www.dailysabah.com/economy/2014/05/12/around-400-usled-mercenaries-deployed-to-ukraine
Please comment
Thank you
I’ll try to answer some of the questions posed here with another question. It’s perhaps a bit simplistic but it works for me.
From where did all these nation states get the money to fund these global conflicts?
T1
Well, well, well. It’s a small start, one country, but it’s a start. May this trickle become a torrent!
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_12/Czech-Republic-opposes-hosting-NATOs-troops-Czech-Defense-Minister-1753/
israelis were at maidan sq taking part in the aggression against the ukrainian govt.
i say the zionized/judaized west.
heartfelt and mujahedin:
If you have VERY open minds, you might read:
“The Myth of German Villainy” by Benton Bradberry
It covers both world wars.
Speaking of the West, here’s a story from the Harvard University undergrad daily that Saker and his readers may find interesting, particularly the comments. The Russian violinist Vladimir T. Spivakov played Harvard yesterday and was greeted by a protest somewhat smaller that the referendum turnout. :) But as the comments confirm, the Euromaidan apologists and propagandists are alive and active here in the USA.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/5/11/protesters-violinist-pro-putin/
For starters, let’s make it clear that, yes, “West” and “East” are very silly political notions indeed. This is in stark contrast to “North” and “South” that do make sense since they’re unambiguous — polar opposites, literally.
Now, the time has come to pay full homage to the erstwhile blogger “poiuytr” and his superb forum Insurrection daily. The global insurrection against Western occupation. This guy had a truly unsurpassed understanding of “Western values” as they actually manifest themselves in concrete reality. I agree with him wholeheartedly to my last breath and without apology. Enjoy!
1) The West is made up by bankrupt hideous baboons for whom the total destruction of humanity and, indeed, life itself is their only capable wetdream
2) The west has been lost and lost for good and there’s nothing they or anyone can do about it anymore. And so they’re probably running and will probably fire a parting shot at Russia or Iran or Venezuela, just to make lots of smoke in which they’ll hope to disappear, rename themselves (AGAIN as this monster does), and regroup for NWO attack part III sometime in future.
3) And so more likely outcome is going to be a west-wide collapse. And that means, not only no dollars ever again on this planet, but it also means no god damn fucking disgusting yank baboon child murdering redneck sleaze ugly obese bitches that all the US populace is.
For example, Israel has offered to help Crimea get water.
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Timeo Danaos Et Dona Ferentes….
Espina said
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_12/New-Cold-War-likely-to-undermine-US-global-hegemony-expert-3056/
Espina Scotland
Saker, fabulous thread responses.
Dare I add … gulp… that the homicidal Auschwitz gas chamber, singular, was build/fashioned from a small air raid shelter three years after the war,
and that Hitler did not get demonised for screaming bloody murder against Jews to drive them out to Palestine, but for building a national currency backed by real value without national debt. That was the mortal sin of Adolf Jacob Hitler.
S-sorry.
FYI Israeli presence noted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqscUAsjw4
“helping the people”
…and keep using “AngloZionist” because it is pretty accurate,
because Talmudist influence added globalism to English anti-Christianity after British union;
because very few Jews are Goy hating hunchback Zionists,
and because your term includes all the Anglo-phone post-Christian and frantic white populations where the secret/satanic societies do dictate the anti-social agenda to the Continentals’ 1%. “Wogs start at Calais really mean globalist anti-humanity starts at Dover.
@ sasy
did the Israeli ‘medical student’ also say he was American? I thought I heard that… but I’m an old woman, who knows?
It seems to me that the Roman Empire morphed into Europe morphed into The West. (The West comprises the colonial powers.) The age of Constantine seems to be ending.
How is the Roman church not Papist? Especially since the Pope began appointing bishops world-wide in the nineteenth century. The Holy Spirit is supposed to rule the Church, but the Pope is the only official voice. Yes, there is ferment and life locally, but the bishops are bounden to those who appoint them.
The Industrial Age and Colonialism have grown because of cheap fuel — coal, oil, gas. We’ve used fuels, and other finite resources like ores, profligately. This time is also coming to an end. Are the elite unaware and still seeking endless growth, or are they abandoning the rest of us while preparing islands of refuge for themselves? Same result for the masses.
@ sasy
did the Israeli ‘medical student’ also say he was American? I thought I heard that… but I’m an old woman, who knows?
@ Anon 17:48
Thanks for the recommendation. You might be interested in the story of Baron von Ungern-Sternberg, a Baltic German who fought for the Russians against the Jews and Bolsheviks in Mongolia during the civil war. Check out ‘The Bloody White Baron’ by James Palmer (2008).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlSzewPMhD4
Violent Clashes in Mariupol on Victory Day: Russian Roulette in Ukraine (Dispatch 36)
and do you know?
that israel has created its own space program
and of those brave astronauts flew
in its kosher rocket
modern technology
fly extremely fast
pass another planet
star
sometimes happen to any nebula
at some point they are already so far
that began to appear in clouds of antimatter
nothing is
fly on
passing antigalaxy
antistars
look
antiplanet
landing, the decision falls
and landed on the anticlearing
look around
and on the edge of the anticlearing
the antiforest stands wearing anticottage
antismoke flies with antichimney
probably inhabited
approach closer
look it by the antiwindow
emptiness
grab antihandle
opens the antidoor
and in the antisalon
at the antitable sitting antisemites
hence there is no escape
get it in the head
all boot the money goes to a
that you hold the snouts
lies and then murder
always the same pattern
where human blood flows
swim with her money
I also have a problem with labels.
The enemies of of all peaceful people are the Anglo-Zionist Oligarchy. We should be clear about who is in control of the West and the values they represent.
They directly control the consciousness of the Eurovision/American Idol crowd, an absolute maximum of 25% of the population — and I’m being very generous.
Look at the bearded lady, if you dare (not recommended). She/he/it represents the values of your opponents.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxcrawl.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2FConchita-Wurst-bearded-lady.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxcrawl.com%2F2014%2F01%2F28%2Faustria-bearded-woman-conchita-wurst-most-controversial-appearance-at-eurovision-2014-some-countries-to-boycott-the-european-song-festival-in-copenhagen-denmark%2F&h=371&w=605&tbnid=sgow_6nZPeUXyM%3A&zoom=1&docid=pyzPwMCjEVW4GM&ei=widxU5PdDYqTyASZrYHoDw&tbm=isch&ved=0CFkQMygBMAE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=439&page=1&start=0&ndsp=16
Putin needs to stand back and let his enemies self destruct. If they want a war in Ukraine then it will only further guarantee their eventual undoing.
Anon at 12 May, 2014 17:51
Thanks for the link and they even allowed my utube link of nuland to post to try knock down the BS.
Anonymous said…
“Anglo-Zionist” is a extremely crude term that ignores history. You really should create another one, because this one smacks of ignorant anti-semitism and an overwrought imagination.
No. Anglo-Zionist has already entered public consciousness and there it will remain and grow as people slowly come to grips with the nature of cancerous ideology of the Anglo-Zionist Oligarchy.
Never let anyone tell you how you can or can’t communicate an idea.
It may seem strange to some that the US is using Neo-nazi’s in Kiev (just as it seems strange that the US is using AlQueda in Syria. I should say appalling rather than strange. However it should not be surprising. Obama despite being a Democrat has surrounded himself with many of the very same neocons who surrounded Bush Jr. And Bush comes from a background via his grandfather of support for the Nazi’s. While little known in the US I am sure Europe and Russia are not at all ignorant of this history as testified to by this story in The Guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
“George Bush’s grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
His business dealings, which continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.”
@mujahedin
What you fail to rcognize is the Nazism, Bolshevism, Zionism and Wahabbism are all exactly the same thing.
German economic success was the result of the German people including their proclivity for toolmaking, built up and developed over many ceturies going all the way back to ancient Greece.
It’s a pity that Germans have lost their confidence in themselves.
Anonymous Lurker
That was cheerful. I’m sorry though (maybe it’s because I’m a girl and *really* don’t like guy flicks ;~)) but think about all those people voting yesterday, all those people. Sure they’re less than perfect, who isn’t, but I still have a really hard time believing that the bulk of us can’t get it together, and keep it together, to win out over the .1% of the.1% of the .1% who are doing all this crap. Yeah, we’re mostly sheep, but throughout history people *have* developed decent systems of governance. The real problem, I think, is maintaining them. The Haudenosaunee (Iroquois Tribes) Confederation managed to keep five tribes from warring, or breaking various other agreed-upon laws, for 500 years, plus or minus. It took five days to recite the Great Law of Peace and everybody got together to hear it every five years and whenever else needed, so everybody knew it by heart. That to me is the most impressive example, but the main point is, it shows it can be done. Women played a pretty important role in their culture, and I expect most of those babushkas yesterday would do quite well too — along with most everybody else. I.e., maybe we’re not really sheep, we’re compliant bc we’re lazy and “into” other stuff and it takes a lot to get our attention?
T1
“From where did all these nation states get the money to fund these global conflicts?”
We The People, what we made, what we bought and/or what we pay in taxes. Right?
Nussimen,
I understand your anger. I share it. But honest to gosh, we’re not all like that. Mostly just lazy, ignorant and into our own thing — which, I’ll grant you is bad enough. But there are those of us who see it, care, and just cannot figure out what we can do.
Just a thought…
From the first commentary found in the website:
Slovyansk right now: there is no assault, the operational situation is calm (video)
http://rusvesna.su/news/1399925652
http://vybor.md/_20/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1399512085_snayper.jpeg
Anonymous 19:25
Thank you. I agree with you about everything but the high taxes — they’re really not, they’re just skewed to hit (the remains of) the middle class. Trust me on this, I’m old enough to remember 90% brackets (for real), and frankly think that’s about right for these robber barons. Corporations used to pay taxes too — a lot of them. And they ought to again also, since now they’re legally considered “people”. Just those two tax changes could turn A LOT of stuff around — but we have to figure out how to get people in office who would actually do that, instead of making vague, empty promises.
But the other thing is, do you think we could figure out a way of getting the Leftish and the Right to agree to disagree on stuff that, right now for sure, really *isn’t* that important? Like, let’s put aside Gay Rights (they’re mostly won anyhow) and Abortion, or Obamacare, or whatever you choose on either side, and then focus on the concerns we really do have in common? Can you imagine us doing that? What would it take? I mean, the ship of state is sinking fast, but the American public really is sinking faster and we need to put aside our divisions and work together to at least try to set things straight, while there are still things to set straight!
Where-Wolf 20:27
What. You. Said.
Just funny…
http://media.cackle.me/f24973d279ae7af4a7c787e16decdd92.JPG
The “West” is a term that was popularized during the Cold War and used to associate Western Europe with the US.
The European New Right, for example, refuses to use the term, which it associates exclusively with America and its empire, and instead refers to “Europe” whenever it wants to denote its own side.
Relatedly, the New Right supported the Soviet Union during the Cold War, for it realized that the US was the greater threat to European Civilization.
For those who would like to read where to turn for information and proved in practice, here it is – from my daily routine:
Firstly, translations, sites made as pin tabs (in Firefox):
1) https://translate.google.com/
2) http://slovari.yandex.ru/
select aHr <-> pyc
3) http://translate.yandex.ru/
select in a row of buttons:
Русский <-> Английский Перевectи
Secondly, the websites (in this order):
1) http://rusvesna.su/
2) http://www.voicesevas.ru/
3) https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK
4) http://www.ustream.tv/channel/newsfrontX X=empty or 1 to 5
5) http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=onair
6) http://lifenews.ru/ + http://lifenews.ru/watch-live
7) http://rt.com/ + http://rt.com/on-air/
8) http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
+ nearly all commentaries (hyperlinks as well)
9) http://voiceofrussia.com/
Those webs provide a lot of youtube films (or hyperlinks).
Number 1 and 2 are a MUST, the first one you should pin via yandex translation to be more handy.
THE DOORS
“The End”
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I’ll never look into your eyes…again
Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need…of some…stranger’s hand
In a…desperate land
Lost in a Roman…wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah
There’s danger on the edge of town
Ride the King’s highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby
Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake…he’s old, and his skin is cold
The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and we’ll do the rest
The blue bus is callin’ us
The blue bus is callin’ us
Driver, where you taken’ us
The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and…then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door…and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother…I want to…fuck you
C’mon baby, take a chance with us
C’mon baby, take a chance with us
C’mon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the blue bus
Doin’ a blue rock
On a blue bus
Doin’ a blue rock
C’mon, yeah
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
It hurts to set you free
But you’ll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die
This is the end
Mohamed.
Take a look at this video:
Four days ago in the congressional hearing Nuland admits that Yanukovich is NOT responsible for the sniper killings in february.
Relevant part is in the first video at 1:55:40
http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hearing/hearing-russia-s-destabilization-ukraine
But why wasn’t this picked up anywhere? Look at this RT video, they cut off exactly the part where Nuland admits that Yanukovich isn’t responsible for the killings.
Relevant part at 1:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDSSksfHG98
I don’t understand this. Nuland didn’t have to say what she did, it was out of place in the conversation, she wasn’t asked about the sniper killings. So why did she admit it? And why didn’t RT or anyone else pick up on it?
@ Saker,
After I saw 5 Israelis dance while my fellow countrymen were dying, I stopped caring about all those who support that 5th column, backstabbing entity.
Nora, please read Candide. There is no despair in the garden.
@Nora
I completely agree with you on taxation.
We have never been collectively wealthier or more productive.
More important, we have a tax system that redistributes wealth upwards towards the proverbial 1 percenters and especially the 1/10th of 1 percenters.
Our economic problems would be very easy to solve if not for the imbalance in power between parasites and producers.
“Where-Wolf on 12 May, 2014 20:42 said…
What you fail to recognize is the Nazism, Bolshevism, Zionism and Wahabbism are all exactly the same thing.”
Excellent, I couldn’t have said it better!
To Muslims Quran = Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad
Quran might be perfectly preserved. It is the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad which explains the Quran and the religion.
The Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad was cooked, and cooked and recooked, for the benefits and control of rulers the then Mighty Caliphs.
This is how the 1% control the religion, just like they control the Zionist Christians and Mega Churches.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@ Anonymous,
Q: ignorant anti-semitism
R: All those who’re excluded from being a Semite, beg to differ…
William K Black – ex US regulator, author of “The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One, and all-round righteous man – once commented that what made Hitler appear god-like to German’s was his ability to simply dismiss the rubbish economics that had driven Germany to the brink. To roll right over it. (Pun intended.) i read this as: Hitler’s power was the reflection of the insanely impoverished economics of his (cough) day. This made a lot of sense to me and also, for obvious reason, gives me great pause now.
I tend to think of this along the lines of Keynes’ despair at the stupidity of the Versailles settlement which – in my potted history – had Germany in the vice of dumping vast amounts of DM’s on the world in reparations which of course increased relatively because they were essentially shorting the very payment medium by making payments. (From the other end of the trade, a “self-licking ice cream” as Wall Street might say.)
It seems disastrously similar to austerity in Europe in at least this aspect: shrinking economies in order to service payments is – on its face – insane. On this point I think – not that anyone’s much noticed, except in Italy where they are rock stars – the Modern Monetary Theorists like Randy Wray, Warren Mosler and Stephanie Kelton seem unassailable.
It also seems completely reminiscent of the IMF treatment countries receive that is “on deck” for Ukraine or what’s left of it.
Trying to get to my point… I’m wondering whether anyone here senses in regions like Donetsk – even Oligarch ruled Donetsk – some faint sense of a socialist revival. (It might seem trite but – after watching a lot of really disturbing, despicable behaviour during this crisis – overall the apparent rekative kindness and bravery of people in the east really stands out to me. It certainly is in stark contrast to the tortured logic / speech / behaviour coming from everyone on the other side, most obviously the Right Sector, Svoboda but equally the drivel emanating from “right thinking” people in EU, liberal press, USG and of course the horror show of Kiev.)
Anyone else get this feeling?
@Grunt
Dude…
Surely they must teach you something about psychological warfare.
Weak attacks against your opponent only serve to strengthen his resolve. They also reveal the weakness of your own commitment as you fight to maintain the illusion of control (over yourself and others).
Your opponent does have weaknesses but you’ve repeatedly demonstrated you’re incapable of finding them.
There are just too many Russian Jews in Israel not to realize that the Ukie regime is neo-Nazi and racist. Besides, Bandera was never popular amongst Russian Jews for obvious reasons.
I don’t think that’s the reasoning for Israel’s stance at all. The plight of the Palestinians and the annexation of Palestinian land is the reason for Israel’s support of Russia when it comes to Ukraine. Israel abstained from the UN vote on Russia’s annexation of Crimea precisely because to vote against it would be to condemn their own land grabs.
Anyway, it’s been an interesting last couple of days as it’s been an interesting last several months. It reminds me of a campy American movie from the 1980s entitled
Revenge Of The Smerds.
Anonymous said…
I’m wondering whether anyone here senses in regions like Donetsk – even Oligarch ruled Donetsk – some faint sense of a socialist revival.
Yes and no.
The old left/right paradigm is incapable of describing what’s happening in Ukraine and elsewhere.
I endorse Marxist class anaysis but beyond that I think we need to get beyond any and all Khazarian paradigms.
The NWO seeks to bolster and maintain the false dichotomy between socialism and ‘free’ markets. They are setting up a new golden calf for opponents of the plutocracy. The idea is to make would be ‘socialists’ worship a false god thereby directing them away from a better understanding of the issues and their enemies.
The valid question is are you in favour of producers or parasites.
I qualify this by saying that human beings do indeed benefit from bacteria and other organisms which live in or on the body (comprising 7% of total body weight, I think).
We need to kill the cancer that is destroying the host but we are still inextricably interwoven with all life on this planet.
Repost of a link showing the various connections among the ruling oligarchy in the NWO.
Naming Names: Your Real Government
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html
My only hesitancy about the anglo-zionist term is that it implies the portion of the ruling capitalists who are not necessarily zionist are anglos. There are quite a few non-anglo power brokers among the western oligarchy. But any term is likely to simply things and anglo-zionist is close enough as far as I’m concerned.
Regarding Saker’s claim that Israel isn’t backing the anglo-zionist attack on the Ukraine, I agree with what Cahokia wrote in the comment from 12 May, 2014 15:32.
One can see what side the Israelis are on by the way the western media frames an issue.
When the picture provided by the media is uniform, as it has been about Ukraine and Russia (and China, BTW), it means there is no disagreement among those oligarchs and that the zionist among them (IE: those who favour Israel) are also fully in agreement on the policies. If Israel opposed this attack on Ukraine/Russia, one would have never seen anything like the propaganda consensus being orchestrated by western media.
If there is obvious disagreement among the media sources, it means there is a similar disagreement among the western oligarchs. That can mean mean several divisions among the oligarchs over policy, such as turf, tactical, and other things based upon their individual interests. But if the zionists disagree with policy, then the media strongly favours their position. The zionists completely control western media. They are not about to use it to whip up public sentiment about something that is against their interests.
Another thing to look at is that zionists have a very strong influence over international finance. This is one of their main areas in the western power hierarchy, if not the main area. The attack on the Ukraine, I think, is an opening salvo in an attempt to bring down Russia. Mainly to prevent a coalition of nations coming together to form alternative international trading in currencies other than the dollar and Euro (the potential “fall back” reserve currency), which the zionists have their clout in. Should the dollar lose the primacy it has, the zionists will lose out as much, or more than the rest of the western oligarchs due to finance being much more important to them as a mechanism of control.
Always remember: “by way of deception, thou shall do war”, not just the Mossad “motto”, but that of zionists and Israel.
“Clearly, Putin and Russia are just two more puppet pieces on the globalist chessboard, pitted against other puppets in the West in a grand theater designed to distract and divide the masses through chaos. As Kissinger points out, in crisis there is opportunity.
What is the goal? They’ve already told us, openly, on numerous occasions.
The first great prizes of the New World Order are a global currency and centralized economic control. The elites are not satisfied with quiet dominance of individual economies. They want complete political homogenization and the end of all sovereignty. Period.” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-07/guest-post-false-eastwest-paradigm-hides-rise-global-currency
ZakuKommander,
I actually was digging in my garden when you wrote that… ;~)
Anonymous 22:03
Please tell me more. But go slowly bc I’m not really very adept at anything post-Keynesian — or at least nothing since then has made much sense to me. Got a basic grasp of the classics, but still know very little about how Hitler worked his miracle — enough to be impressed, though.
Nora,
Hitler’s hand in the “miracle” mostly consisted of ordering the death or imprisonment of anyone deemed likely to continue fostering the workers side of the class war that had been a regular feature of the Weimar Republic and reappointing Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht to Presidency of the Reichsbank. His wikipedia entry gives some detail on how he ginned up prosperity. Be sure to follow the link to Mefo_bills.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
In essence they did what most all governments are now doing, though the methods vary some. Create fake money, use it to fund militarism and steal what real wealth you can.
@Anonymous 22:03
“Trying to get to my point… I’m wondering whether anyone here senses in regions like Donetsk – even Oligarch ruled Donetsk – some faint sense of a socialist revival. (It might seem trite but – after watching a lot of really disturbing, despicable behaviour during this crisis – overall the apparent rekative kindness and bravery of people in the east really stands out to me. It certainly is in stark contrast to the tortured logic / speech / behaviour coming from everyone on the other side, most obviously the Right Sector, Svoboda but equally the drivel emanating from “right thinking” people in EU, liberal press, USG and of course the horror show of Kiev.)
Anyone else get this feeling?”
You express very well my feeling – I haven’t any firsthand experience, just what I have seen in videos from regions in the south of Ukraine (and I haven’t seen any to the north or west, so just those). But very like unto those photos of bouquet after bouquet of flowers piled at the memorial. Somehow with all the talk of civil war and economic hardship, it is such a sweet, sweet place and people!
By the way, for a recent consideration of Holocaust realities (Auschwitz) in a poetic novel, I recommend Peter Matthiessen’s “In Paradise” which I have just finished reading.
This is not directly related to your terminology discussion, Saker, but it’s interesting, so I hope you won’t block it:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2014/05/killing-your-own-people-a-brief-guide.html#comments
I don’t normally take anything written in the Daily Mail too seriously, but Peter Hitchens has been writing some lucid stuff on Russia/Ukraine recently, so I thought I’d share the link.
Indcidentally, I visited the Harvard Crimson link (http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/5/11/protesters-violinist-pro-putin/) that someone posted above, and I found it quite interesting. I was not at all surprised that people were protesting the musician who backed the Crimean annexation, though I did find that fact a bit depressing. But down in the comment section, the debate on Crimea/Ukraine was surprisingly vigorous and well-informed. Is the ‘AngloZionist’ narrative on Ukraine finally starting to crack a bit in the US? Maybe…
Nora
Hitler’s mortal sin. From http://www.realww2.infoat “24 March 1933” of the WW2 chronology:
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However, as Hitler and Schacht contemplated raising the beloved nation from economic ruin, they proceeded with fatal innocence to soak up Germany’s six million unemployed by funding huge public works with government credits, that is, with money deemed into existence by printing bank notes, hoping the paper would be accepted as payment for work. Hitler had said, “I am no economist but I would have thought that a day’s work has value.” The National Socialists gambled that their deemed or fiat money would be gradually replaced by real savings earned by work of real value. Assisted by the patriotism of the candidly informed public, the scheme worked so successfully that by 1936 unemployment was gone and the Deutschmark was coveted on black markets. But by generating the nation’s own wealth, by chaining wages and prices while coincidentally avoiding national debt, Hitler and Schacht had mortally threatened the globalists’ financial power over nations. Consequently, from 1933 until Britain and France finally started the hot war, the western media waged propaganda war against Germany. Hjalmar Schacht died in 1970.
that would be the Schwarzenburg Platz. It is the Russian war memorial in Vienna. When I was ther in ’73, the narrataive ran that if anyting happened (destructive) to it, the Russians had the right to roll over the border from Hungary in response to the provocation. I believe that is the monument on which someone threw blue and yellow paint recently.
I would suggest EU/NATO pact as a symbol of all evil.
The worst term is to call America the West.
America loves it.
@The topic of Russian-Israeli relations in a fascinating and very complex one which really would deserve a full analysis
That is certainly so. But I would think that “Bandera was never popular amongst Russian Jews for obvious reasons” is not so absolute as we assume. Russian Jews maybe, but “Ukrainian Jews”?
Although you should always take Wikipedia with bucketful of salt, it cannot always avoid to relate inconvenient facts like these ones: “The OUN’s ideology, on the other hand, did not emphasize antisemitism and racism despite the presence of some antisemitic writing. Indeed, three of its leaders, General Mykola Kapustiansky, Rico Yary (himself of Hungarian-Jewish descent), and Mykola Stsyborsky (the OUN’s chief theorist), were married to Jewish women and Jews belonged to the OUN’s underground movement”….
“Ukrainian nationalist literature generally showed little interest in Nazi-like antisemitism during the 1930s. Evhen Onatsky, writing in the OUN’s official journal in 1934, condemned German National Socialism as imperialist, racist and anti-Christian”….The OUN-B’s ambivalent wartime attitude towards the Jews was highlighted during the Second General Congress of OUN-B (April, 1941, Kraków)in which the OUN-B condemned anti-Jewish pogroms.[49] and specifically warned against the pogromist mindset as useful only to Muscovite propaganda. At that conference the OUN-B declared ‘The Jews in the USSR constitute the most faithful support of the ruling Bolshevik regime, and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in Ukraine. The Muscovite-Bolshevik government exploits the anti-Jewish sentiments of the Ukrainian masses to divert their attention from the true cause of their misfortune and to channel them in a time of frustration into pogroms on Jews. The OUN combats the Jews as the prop of the Muscovite-Bolshevik regime and simultaneously it renders the masses conscious of the fact that the principal foe is Moscow'”….An underground OUN publication in 1943 condemned ‘German racism, which carried anthropological nonsense to the absurd’. In the official organ of the OUN-B’s leadership, instructions to OUN groups urged those groups to ‘liquidate the manifestations of harmful foreign influence, particularly the German racist concepts and practices’. There were many cases of Jews having been sheltered from the Nazis by the OUN-B’s military wing UPA and Jews fought in the ranks of UPA. Finally, the 3rd OUN Congress held in August 1943 proclaimed equal rights to all minorities inhabiting Ukraine. The OUN position concerning the Jews was disseminated through its IDEIA I CHYN clandestine journal, and it specifically asked for resistance to manifestations of Antisemitism”.
Now, Stepan Bandera spent most of the War years interned in a Nazi concentration camp!
So, there are many nuances of grey that allow many “Ukrainian Jews” (who happen to be Israeli citizens also) to take a more lenient view of the Banderists. It is clear that in their view the Jews were bad only because they were the instruments of the hated Moskali. In today’s parlance: the Ukrainian Jewish oligarchs good, the Russian Jewish oligarchs (the Putin’s ones) bad.
This is what I call A Call for Action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ#t=21
:)
Dear Saker,
First of all, I like to say thank you for the situation updates on Ukraine where we can obtain stories from the “other side” about the unrest and war in Ukraine, rather than just a one-sided propaganda from the mainstream news.
However, I would like to comment on some of the issues I see when many of you on this board are commemorating World War II. The depictions I see here is a virtuous Soviet Russia fought off the evil Nazi empire, while the West did (or suffered) little in the process. And the red soviet flags became a symbol of heroism and honor and glory.
I beg to differ. What I see, clearly from historical facts, was that two evil empires fought against each other. And in the end, one evil empire destroyed the other. Communism is as evil as Nazism. Communism altogether murdered and caused more people to died than Nazi’s did. Soviet Union suffered 23 million deaths from WWII, but how many millions of his own country men did Stalin alone murdered? Japan caused about the death of at least 10 million Chinese, but guess what, Mao caused the deaths of more than 30 million of his OWN countrymen!
Sure, a life is a life, murder is murder. But if we can put a degree on it, it is evil to kill millions of foreigners that you don’t really care about, how much more evil it is to kill millions of your own countrymen whom you are suppose to care about?
Yes, Soviet Union, under the rule of Stalin stopped Nazi Germany under the rule of Hitler. Russian people paid a heavy price in terms of life. But how much of those life could have been saved by the Soviets? How many of those deaths could have been avoided? Don’t forget both Communism and Nazism do not really care about human beings at all. So in the end, both the swastikas and the sickle and hammer are symbols of death, tyranny, and dictatorship.
I myself being from a country that suffered greatly at the hands of both Fascism and Communism can attest to the true horror of both evil ideology. So please, don’t glamorize the Soviets. Just because the Soviets defeated some evil empire, doesn’t make it good!
R.T.
WizOz said: “The topic of Russian-Israeli relations in a fascinating and very complex one which really would deserve a full analysis
That is certainly so. But I would think that “Bandera was never popular amongst Russian Jews for obvious reasons” is not so absolute as we assume. Russian Jews maybe, but “Ukrainian Jews”?”
I don’t find Russian-Israeli relations fascinating at all.
Israel’s interests in Russia are grubby, crass, and materialistic in the extreme.
Israel is unlike Western nations (it’s not a Western nation, incidentally) in that it is utterly opportunistic and without any loyalties except the obvious.
Putin will never truly be their man because he deposed the post-Soviet Jewish oligarchs and pushed Russia away from the cosmopolitan Zionist/finance capital dominated West. He made Russia the one major white nation which isn’t Zionist dominated.
That doesn’t mean they can’t accommodate Putin on a situational basis.
Anon 00:26
Not quite ‘fake money’ It was real value, not just paper!
“…Hitler began a national credit program by devising a plan of public works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no longer came from the private international bankers. The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German government (not the international bankers) issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and paid them with Treasury certificates. Under the National Socialists, Germany’s money wasn’t backed by gold (which was owned by the international bankers). It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, “For every mark issued, we require the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done, or goods produced.”The government paid workers in certificates. Workers spent those certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers.Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work.
Within five years, Germany went from being the poorest nation in Europe to becoming the richest. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers’denial of credit and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system that cut the bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits. (Venezuela does the same thing today when it trades oil for commodities plus medical help, and so on. Hence the bankers are trying to squeeze Venezuela.) Germany’s economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several monuments, including the famous Autobahn, the world’s first extensive superhighway. …”
As a recent visitor to Saker’s blog I hope that he would drop the term “Anglo-zionism”. It sounds really crude and also not that accurate.
Saker should not be confused about the term “West”. It does have meaning to today’s context. I would think that most people identify the “West” with western Europe, the UK and the US. Finance capital as has been understood for the last 100 years is centered there.
Why not just call it Western Imperialism? I am not going to argue that there is no Zionist influence in Western Imperialism, but it really is quite tiny.
Now if we could just stop kicking the holocaust narrative,
I repeat, Saker’s Anglo-Zionist adjective reveals the truth because it is accurate.
But my language is more so—
The World Hate Establishment of
Anglo-American satanic societies
whose first executives and proxies (and dispensable patsies) are the Talmud-crazed, Goy-hating very first victims of Judaic deception
who are given to fear (unmentionably) that
they are predestined to Hell because their blood is cursed because they descend from the Christ killers.
BS
It is not. They don’t. Jews who fear that are schmuks, suckers. They are lied to by the humanity haters who direct world Jewry—for the time being.
@Everybody:
okay this is going downhill. I don’t want this thread to continue. Let’s stop this now and turn the page and get back on topic. Thanks!
The Saker
Anon 03:45
The fake money I mentioned was the Mefo Bills issued by Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft, a front company set up by Schacht to fund rearmament with promissory notes. Accounting it as private debt kept it invisible to the allies who might have gotten suspicious of a sudden huge increase in the budget deficit. As the early rearmament work was done in the USSR, I wonder if Stalin ever got paid.
The Mefo Bills were inspired by the Öffa bills, initiated by the Chancellor Brüning in 1932 for the public works projects you mentioned. Kurt von Schleicher continued and expanded the scheme. Hitler wanted to expand it further to finance rearmament. Reichsbank President Hans Luther refused, so Dolfy replaced him with Schacht who was more amenable.
The whole scheme was highly inflationary (how very Keynesian). Hitler wouldn’t have cared. His whole plan was to steal the future wealth of the 3rd Reich. Ubermensch deserve the best. Right?