About an article East Ukraine’s Donetsk Republic Will Hold Referendum To Join Russia
Without going into intricacies of world affairs, I need to give to you, our readers and commentators, the same warning I give to our Research Assistants: Check Your Sources.
First, ZeroHedge reposts a xinhuanet.com article that claims its source was “the Donetsk-based Ostrov news agency”
Upon simple cross-reference, nothing is found that would confirm that the Referendum to Join Russia is the official stand of Donetsk and Lugansk People’s republics. It could be “fake news,” right? Let’s look who is spreading the fake news. What is “the Donetsk-based Ostrov news agency” also known as ostro.org?
NGO “Ostro.org” is operated and financed by the notorious US State Department’s tool of color revolutions and fascists putsches NED.org National Endowment for Democracy for Ukraine
Along with the “Donetsk Committee of Voters of Ukraine: Freedom of Information” that has received $55,840 for Promoting Civic Journalism in Eastern Ukraine. “Donetsk Committee of Voters of Ukraine: Political Processes” that has received in 2014 $10,000 for “Promoting Voter Education, Mobilization and Monitoring in Eastern Ukraine.” to operate an election hotline and create a special section devoted to election-related topics on its informational portal, (NGO.donetsk.ua). Along with Ukrainian Youth Association of Ukraine (SUM) NGO Strengthening that has received $38,185 for “Strengthening Civil Society in Central and Eastern Ukraine
To strengthen civil society organizations in the Chernihiv and Donetsk regions of Ukraine.”
“Center for Research on Social Perspectives in the Donbas Freedom of Information has received in 2014 Supplement: $37,493 in “Supporting Independent Regional Media” to help “To disseminate independent information about and for Ukraine’s regions, with a focus on the May 2014 presidential election and the ongoing political transition. The Center will continue to operate its popular news website, OstriV (www.ostro.org). Initial and supplemental NED support will be used to cover the salaries of four correspondents, who will produce more than 200 analytical and 10,000 informational items for the website. Funds will also be used to cover a portion of the Center’s basic operating costs.”
Center for Research on Social Perspectives in the Donbas has been a recipient of multiple Western grants over the years. Like, for example, from irf.ua that awarded grant number 30639 to ostro.org … Grant budget (UAH): 19183, E-mail: info@ostro.org. Registration date: 20.06.2003, Grantee address: 83100, м. Donetsk for “Preparation and Publication of Analytical and Informational Materials on Social and Political Processes in Donetsk region”
Needless to say that irg.ua, a.k.a. International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) or Міжнародний фонд “Відродження” is one of the George Soros’ Open Society Foundation spawns.
The simple whois search yields that company IAA “Ostro” is run by Yaroslav Kolgushev. It was founded in 2002 as a NGO with the address: Artema str. 193 v/67 Donetsk Donetsk Oblast 83004 UA Phone: +380.62348077 and administrative Contact Information: Name: REDO Hostmaster Organization: PP Rulez (.REDO) City: Kiev Zip: 03186 Country: UA Phone: +380.442414975
Yaroslav Kolgushev, editor of NGO portal “OstroV,” which was created in 2002 to operate in Donetsk and has been hosted on Google service, in scenic Mountain View, California. On a google server with IP 107.178.244.221 with at least 33 another websites. A very interesting bunch of websites, to say the least: 24daily.net (Самые свежие новости Украины и всего Мира без Цензуры The freshest news from Ukraine and the World without Censorship), acopy.net (a Hong Kong based anti-Chinese government news portal), and also pravda.com.ua (новини онлайн про Україну, Українська правда, Keywords: топ, Донецьк, українська правда, украинская) and libertyinnorthkorea.org (Liberty in North Korea is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization based out of Torrance, California, United States. The North Korean PEOPLE have massive potential to drive change in their country. We exist to empower the PEOPLE); umuvugizi.com; zambianwatchdog.com; premiumtimesng.com (Breaking news and deep investigative stories from Nigeria) allegedly based in Abuja, but with the administration address in Toronto, Canada; radiokiskeya.com (Radio Kiskeya 885 FM Internet radio stations for Haiti, Listen to Radio Kiskeya on the Go! Call 712.432.7885 from any phone to start listening now* *U.S. Phone number and so on. One of the way the US phone companies control information to Haitians migrants in the US and Canada); inmediahk.net (An anti-China government “citizen” media platform run by a group of volunteers in Hong Kong) and of cause – passiontimes.hk. Don’t click on it looking for hot Asian chicks. It’s a website run by Civic Passion (Chinese: 熱血公民) a populist anti-communist Hong Kong political portal, an “internet activist group” that also runs Passion Times
The bottom line, if this shared google server with IP 107.178.244.221 hosted only US-NATO propaganda directed at Ukraine, someone could suggest that this server is rented by some Ukrainian entity. However, the scoop of the anti-governments web sites hosted on this server is wide enough to be worldwide, it looks like it belongs to the Soros’ Open Society Foundation itself.
Back to our sheep, I mean the front man for “ostroV” news portal Yaroslav Kolgushev. As Tracey Goldner writers for Globaljournalist.org (The University of Missouri UMC School of Journalism. BTW, as you can see, the globalgournalist.org enjoys the same “open-handed donors” since the 1990s, “including private business, Open Society (Soros), Press Now, National Endowment for Democracy, European Union and the U.S. Department of State…”
So, as Tracey Goldner writers for Globaljournalist.org on 30 September 2014, in her article Project Exile: Ukrainian flees amidst fighting
that “Ukrainian journalists Olena Kolgusheva and Yaroslav Kolgushev” moved from Donetsk to Lvov “after the home of one of their colleagues was shot-up with machine-gun fire.” Lvov (Lviv) however, has proven to be too dangerous for a couple of heroic truth fighters for “democracy” because from this nest of friendly Banderovets and Maidanovets
they went straight to, you guessed it, to Missouri, where their son Roman, a graduate student and Fulbright Scholar at the University of Missouri, helped arrange for his family to come to the United States on a two-month visa with the help of the university and others.”
Yes, YES! Everything is connected and everyone knows each other. Kiev junta cloud is a one big happy family adopted by Soros and whatever and whoever uses him as a front man. ZeroHedge and xinhuanet took the fake Donetsk news right from the horse’s mouth, the US State Department and NATO, and maybe some little bits from Bibi’s mouth. Do you want them to see a reaction of the Russia’s government? The EU? Will they start a new “Putin – Russian Tsar” campaign? You betcha.
Guys, and ladies, every time you go out to fight the Western spawns of hell, do two things: check your sources, and don’t forget your kevlar.
Ukraine
1. Poland: Unknowns in masks destroy a monument to UPA video
Поляки уничтожают памятник УПА
2. NATO occupied Ukraine plans to solve the growing problem of unemployment by forcing 10 million working adults to dig foxholes and tranches [source]
Interview with Ruslan Bortnik, the director of the Ukrainian Institute of Policy Analysis and Management.
10 миллионов украинцев заставят мести улицы и рыть окопы в случае введение военного положения (ВИДЕО)
3. The unknown soldiers of the strange war [source]
Swedish veterans of the war in Donbass have confirmed the participation of officers from the EU and NATO member states in war hostilities in eastern Ukraine
Economy of Ukraine
1. This week I found a new favorite Ukrainian political analyst and economist, Alexander Dudchak [source]
“Business – starting from the small up to the big companies – live their every day like it is their last day, having lost faith in tomorrow. The state and the people, or, as they now say, the nation live more and more independently from one another. The people even ask the government at least not to interfere and let them survive. ”
August 14. Александр Дудчак, экономист, «Блажен, кто верует»: экономика Украины за неделю
Alexander Dudchak, an economist, A new record of Ukraine is registered – by official data, the shadow economy totaled 47% by the half of 2015 with a tangible growth versus the same period of 2014 – 5% in the first quarter of the year.
By data of the Ministry of Economic Development, the shadow economy comparing to GDP in Ukraine was as follows during the last five years: 38% in 2010, 34% in 2011, 34% in 2012, 34% in 2013, 41% in 2014 (record-breaking year since 2007).
August 13. Ukraine as a friendly country of Poland ought to help its partner in anti-Russian sanctions with electricity.
As the energy system in Poland is experiencing a crisis, the government of that country has appealed to Ukraine for help. Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk charged taking immediate measures: “We must support our friendly country Poland and do everything possible to help our partners stabilize the energy situation in their country as soon as possible.” To that end, Ukraine will increase the import of electricity from Russia by 200MW.
The Third World War
1. US Military Uses IMF & World Bank To Launder 85% Of Its Black Budget [source]
A very important article uncovering the ways the US colonizes sovereign economies to financing its military to bully countries and nations into colonizing them.
My advice has always been to follow the money to understand the situation.
“This is part of an even larger financial scheme. It is fairly well-established by now that international financial institutions like the World Trade Organization, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund operate primarily as instruments of corporate power and nation-controlling infrastructure investment mechanisms. For example, the primary purpose of the World Bank is to bully developing countries into borrowing money for infrastructure investments that will fleece trillions of dollars while permanently indebting these “debtor” nations to West. But how exactly does the World Bank go about doing this?’
“the four-step plan for bamboozling developing countries into becoming debtor nations:
Step One, is to convince a nation to privatize its state industries.
Step Two utilizes “capital market liberalization,” which refers to the sudden influx of speculative investment money that depletes national reserves and property values while triggering a large interest bump by the IMF.
Step Three is “Market-Based Pricing,” which means raising the prices on food, water and cooking gas. This leads to “Step Three and a Half: The IMF Riot.” Examples of this can be seen in Indonesia, Bolivia, Ecuador and many other countries where the IMF’s actions have caused financial turmoil and social strife.
Step Four, of course, is “free trade,” where all barriers to the exploitation of local produce are eliminated.”
Armed with this knowledge, there is One and only Step that all the non-western countries should take – to declare all western debt being Odious, predatory and colonial and turn to non-western banks and sources of financing.
The Putsch Pirates of The Potomac – Part One
2. Russia-Insider commentators:
For the gazillionth time: This is not “disgraceful journalism“, this is information warfare. Warfare. They’re making people dead. Maybe you (or your entire demographic) are on the list (Spoiler: You are.) The media owners of “Western” media have no civic duty or social contract with the citizenry. That’s a quaint notion cooked up by some Dead White Guys. The literal religion of the owners dictates that they shall utter whatever falsehoods to the citizens so that they may be subjugated to God’s Chosen People(tm).
In the cosmic realpolitik of the Chosen, you as cattle have no right not to be deceived. In fact, you have no rights at all — only the right to die for your beliefs (or your ignorance… same thing, really).
I’m wondering why RI keeps referring to it as “journalism”. It’s “journalism” in the same sense that a B-52 carpet bombing is soil tilling.
They’re not “clueless”. They’re not lazy. They’re not “getting it wrong”. They’re intentionally lying to further an agenda of murder and conquest. And virtually the entire lot of YOU write them checks to maintain the sluiceway of distraction, distortion and falsehood. Where does their power come from? Their power comes from your consumer dollar. Why don’t you exercise the “terrible power of the purse”?
Donbass Novorossia
1. Message from Donbass “plastic surgeons” to the Ukro-Nazis and NATO militants: Come to Donbass and will significantly improve your looks. (18+ images)
2. NATO Kiev junta military group threatening Donbass [source]
August 20 – 90 thousand NATO thugs, 450 tanks, 203 Grad multiple rocket launcher systems, 5 Tockla U, short-range ballistic missile systems (NATO Designation SS-21 … Tochka-U (SS-21 Scarab-B).
Киев усилил группировку ВСУ: Донбасс атакуют 90 тыс человек, 450 танков, 203 РСЗО , 5 «Точек-У»
Political analysts states that Kiev is afraid of yet another caldron and is getting prepared for a second since WWII the great Kursk Tank battle [source]
МАРКОВ Сергей, Киев боится попасть в «котел» и готовит аналог «Курской дуги», — политолог
3. Валентина Лисица. Донбассу с любовью! Valentina Lisitsa. Donbass with love! (ENG subs)
Valentina performs 3 movement of the famous 14th sonata written by L. V. Beethoven.
Russia and Beyond
If you have a problem, ask a Russian engineer to find a solution!
Solar Powered cold storage is the technology that will be disruptive to all those colonial western electric and food companies
Russian inventor offers a cheap and simple solution to the problem of storing crops in hot regions of the world, like Africa, Middle east and India. Patrushev Nikolay, a chemistry student from Bashkir State University, Russia
Autonomous storage
Autonomous storage with temperatures inside from -5 to +2 degrees Celsius. It is ideal for storing vegetables, fruit and meat. Farmers don’t need to buy expensive electricity from the Western owned corporations. [source]
Interesting enough, the James Dyson Award website removed all the information about Patrushev Nikolay invention in English and in German
You still can view Nikolay Patrushev profile in cash format
Implementation of this versatile design will give small farmers in countries colonized by the West the chance to save up to 3/4 of their crops that they lose now due to heat and lack of the electricity.
James Dyson Award forgot to remove this page on Solar Powered cold storage
You can also view Patrushev’s invention on this video
Congratulations, Nikolay, well done!
2. Grehm Fillips found in Yalta, Crimea, an unhappy local Ukrainian woman and very satisfied refugee from the West of Ukraine.
08/18/2015, Ялта, Виктор Орлов. Крым, Политика, Россия, Украина Грэм Филлипс нашел в Ялте недовольную местную украинку и довольного приезжего западенца
August 18th, Crimea – President Putin answers question about Russia’s economy [source]
First, however, he took a submarine ride into the depths of the Black Sea to take a look at the ancient ship resting on the bottom [source]
President Putin also has called Ukrainians and Russian “One nation” and said that “despite of some current difficulties” Ukraine, after unification with Russia, will built itself a much better future. Quote: «Украина встанет на ноги и будет развиваться позитивно, вместе с Россией будет строить свое будущее», – заключил он.
Here is the video of Putin’s interview in front of the crowd of people in Crimea. He’s answering the question about the situation in Donbass.
President Putin’s information meeting and a conversation with the representatives of Crimea [source] English translation
New trends emerging these past seven days, and also old trends coming to their logical conclusions
Russia redirects railway traffic from Latvia to Ust-Luga
August 14th – Representatives of the Russian Railways OJSC inform that the cargo traffic to Latvia may be stopped fully.
It should be noted that the Riga Free Port transferred 23.709 million tons of cargoes (from and to Russia) for seven months of 2015, which is by 1% more than for the same period of 2014 – 41.08 million tons – by 15.8% more than in 2013.
Latvian transportation minister wants to visit Russia trying to keep the Baltic port transit money EU1.2 billion annually and support at least 75,000 workers in Latvia [source]
Министр сообщений Латвии хочет посетить РФ, чтобы не потерять транзит
As I reported before, Russia is building new ultra-modern port to bypass the Baltic countries oil and gas terminals.
Instead of going to a NATO and EU member, fanatically anti-Russian and Euro-hysterical Latvia, billions of dollars are staying in Russia in Ust-Luga port
50% of population of Latvia are ethnic Russians who have non-citizens status even so they were born there. Latvia stages NATO drill 150 meters from the border with Russia. Latvia stages old-SS and neo-Nazi marches. In what fresh hell they think that all of these won’t damage their trade with their neighbor, which just happened to be the biggest country in the world? Russia is bigger than planet Pluto. Don’t you ever forget it! Latvia is in size of my toenail. As the commentators of Russian Spring (rusvesna.su) suggest the Westerners complain that Russians don’t smile enough. So, let’s kick their European asses with a smile.
As a Russian woman, Svetlana, comments on Russian Spring portal,
You still have to come to understanding your Ukraine. As for us, Russian, in our country everything is clear: fields are planted, harvested, farms are modernized, industry develops , many new factories are built, young people study and do sports. Russia supports Ukraine trading relationship and all our stores are filled up with Ukrainian products, but most likely only because this year on vacation to Crimea more than 4 million tourists has already arrived, apparently we buy Ukrainian produce to feed everyone without problems. But now a lot of excellent products made in Russia , so soon we will be done trading with you … I drove in January 2014 in Ukraine to Lviv .In Central Ukraine the people plow field; in Western Ukraine is all overgrown with weeds; on the way to the Donbass all fields planted with grain and vegetables, enterprises function.
First time I went to the Krasnodar and Stavropol regions in January 2015 and was particularly surprised by thousands of miles of fields, all are plowed and planted. I saw huge plantation and vineyard. In Crimea last year they collected 2 million tons of grain – they need only 1 million ; huge vineyards; orchards of peaches, cherries, apples, pears, strawberry, roses, and lavender field…!!! The people working! It is time for Russia to ban the import of products from unfriendly countries. And You Ukrainian Europeans , well, you just have to help Latvian Europeans something to ship in the ports of Latvia ))) …
Светлана
And now for another edition of “Amerika in decline…”
Join is as we watch the collapse of the US dollar, and with that the implosion of the US economy.
Yuan Devaluation Sparks Biggest Crash In US Corporate Bonds Since Lehman [source]
Just two days ago we warned of the dramatic disconnect between equity insurance and credit insurance markets – at levels last seen before Bear Stearns collapse. As the Yuan devaluation shuddered EURCNH carry traders and battered European assets, US equity markets stumbled onwards and upwards, impregnable in their fortitude with The Fed at their back no matter what. However, US corporate bond markets were a bloodbath…
The Bank of America/Merrill Lynch High Yield CCC Yield got absolutely slammed this week, rising from 13.58% to 16.18%! The biggest spike in yields since the financial crisis.
The US is cooking a putsch in Brazil, followed by a civil war, followed by collapse of economy, followed by the US companies grabbing national treasures and resources for free and instituting “austerity” and the neo-Nazis rule. [source]
see also:
Austerity – Elite Terrorism Against Ordinary People [source]
The US failed in Armenia, now they try to occupy Brazil and Turkey. As God is my witness, after Ukraine, any nation that buys a pro-American and anti-national sovereignty putsch government deserves what’s coming to them. Somehow, I believe that there are no other nation in the world as stupid as Ukrainian. Who else wants to attach themselves to a sinking Titanic?
Off topic, I own some items that used to belong to a famous person who died on Titanic. I bought them at an auction. I feel like I am channeling this person’s spirit through his belongings. He definitely warns against attaching yourself to a sinking ship. Most likely it won’t end well, neither for a ship, nor for you.
“Deal Or War”: Is Doomed Dollar Really Behind Obama’s Iran Warning? [source]
“But what could really be behind Obama’s dire warning of “deal or war” is another scenario – the collapse of the US dollar, and with that the implosion of the US economy.
That scenario was hinted at this week by US Secretary of State John Kerry. Speaking in New York on August 11, Kerry made the candid admission that failure to seal the nuclear deal could result in the US dollar losing its status as the top international reserve currency.”
American Malls In Meltdown – The Economic Recovery Is Complete & Utter Fraud [source]
“What happens when we roll back into the next official recession, unemployment soars, and consumers really stop spending? What is revealed when you look under the hood of this economic recovery is that it is a complete and utter fraud. The recovery is nothing but smoke and mirrors, buoyed by subprime auto debt, really subprime student loan debt, corporate stock buybacks, and Fed financed bubbles in stocks, real estate, and bonds. The four retailers listed below are nothing but zombies, kept alive by the Fed’s ZIRP and QE, as they stumble towards their ultimate deaths. The coming recession will be the knife through their skulls, putting them out of their misery.”
Another Top US Defense Establishment Figure Calls for Killing Russians
Caught On Tape: Native Americans Chase John McCain Off Navajo Land
Feds Give Shell Final OK To Drill For Arctic Oil
By Keith Goldberg
Law360, New York (August 17, 2015, 5:12 PM ET) — U.S. offshore drilling regulators on Monday gave the final go-ahead to Royal Dutch Shell PLC to drill in Arctic waters after a piece of required emergency equipment made its way back to the Chukchi Sea aboard an icebreaking ship that had to undergo repairs.
The Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement had approved Shell permits to conduct limited exploratory drilling in the sea about 70 miles northwest from the village of Wainwright on Alaska’s northern coast, but wouldn’t allow the energy giant Shell to enter oil-bearing…
Many thanks Scott –
What a super overview of the NGO octopus tentacles that want to wrap the Donbass/ the world in ‘democracy’.
Re Putin’s visit to Crimea…
We have cousins in Sevastopol (one family has lived there since WWII, and the other family recently fled from Ukraine so that the grandson would not end up in the Junta meat grinder) … they are overjoyed to be under Putin’s umbrella. Infrastructure is being improved, pensions increased and they feel very safe.
Many thanks to all the Saker team.
Thank you Scott.
What goes around comes around Latvia!
Rgds,
Veritas
I’m sorry that I pointed to that link, but I was not the first and not the only one (see other threads).
Then, in /19-08-2015-military-report-of-novorossia/#comments at the very top you can see a small but important IF:
“Maybe this can finally change, if true:”
Then, you forgot to mention that I updated my theread all night long, and did check the sources:
Martin from S.E.B. on August 20, 2015 · at 1:52 am UTC
WTF: But from where and how do you know or how did you find out, that they are the original src?
“Interesting” site we should send to the moon.
They have a large banner on top which advertises https://stopterror.in.ua/
I hope the Chinese are more professional than using such a shit as input for their news agency.
Reply
Martin from S.E.B. on August 20, 2015 · at 2:15 am UTC
Ok, you are right.
Found the answer myself:
In http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-08/19/c_134535215.htm and repeated 1:1 by http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/east-ukraines-donetsk-republic-will-hold-referendum-join-russia
it reads: “””””the Donetsk-based Ostrov news agency reported Wednesday.”””””
Now, that appears to be the mistake.
It is a Kiev Nazi mouthpiece, rather than being “Donetsk based”.
Thanks for the pointer.
It sounded too good to be true.
It is disappointing that the Chinese with all their highly educated smart geniuses let such a mistake happen.
Although, wait a second: http://www.ostro.org != ostroV.
Is there another news agency with the additional ‘v’ as quoted by xinhuanet.com and ZH, which may indeed be Donetsk based?
—>>
https://www.google.de/search?q=ostrov+news+agency&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=eTnVVZrqAebVygOnh4eADQ
NO, unlikely.
Because as early as in April 2014 the infamous Kyivpost dirt-crap quoted them already:
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/protesters-seize-building-of-ukrainian-security-services-donetsk-dept-342294.html
So the Chinese either fell into a trap, or those responsible gor some extra $$$ from the CIA.
I do not like the way in which you burn me here at the very top spot of your city’s market.
“So the Chinese either fell into a trap, or those responsible gor some extra $$$ from the CIA.”
Or they printed it for their own purposes. Perhaps to advance the idea of Donbas joining Russia as a solution, or elicit a reaction from some quarter.
It’s hard to analyze what the Chinese are thinking, but if the news stories published passed inder the eyes of policy people first then it may well be neither accident or bribery, but an excuse to say something they could not otherwise.
During recent days I also checked a few other sources and debunked them here.
No video proof whatsoever.
But I rather won’t repeat that here because I don’t want to throw bad light on certain website of our own side.
I’m shocked that you deal with me in that manner after all the personal price I had to pay for defending the Truth on my OpenSXCE sites. Namely I’m being boycotted by western companies and never get a job or a contract.
Whatever: After _this_ you won’t see me again.
Come on, Martin. It’s understood that we all here list links to info as questions and subjects for discussion. We face a torrent of lies and disinformation. We can only rely on each other to uncover the truth.
A referendum of reunification with Russia would be great if it were true. But, since it’s coming from the dark side, it can only mean a provocation. You and I know that these false news and provocations end up with good people dying.
Please, don’t go away. I keep referring to your comments, because I see you as a knowledgeable and decent human being. I have actually wanted to offer you to get your comments on the modern history of Germany together to publish as a brochure. And.. Do you want help with finding a job? Drop an email to Saker for me.
@ Scott,
Many, many, many thanks. Those beers are still in tucked away in the fridge :o)
*******
Does anyone know the story behind the ‘out of the blue’ Zerohedge.com?
It gives my ‘moral taste buds’ the same chill as that rag, ‘The Daily Beast.’
1. NATO- Kiev’s attack plan to cut DPR and LPR from Russia
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2350045.html
2. George Soros: fake progressive, friend of nazis by Eric Zuesse,
http://off-guardian.org/2015/08/20/george-soros-fake-progressive-friend-of-nazis/
August 20th – “George Soros happens to support only nazis (racist fascists) whose passionate hatred is specifically against Russians. His entire biography in public life has actually been that.
You can see “International Renaissance Fund” mentioned at the bottom of that. It’s also called the International Renaissance Foundation, and it’s an extension of George Soros, just as his Open Society Foundations are. It’s shown there as being the third-biggest donor to Hromadske TV.”
“Basically, the U.S. aristocracy is united on it. They disagree about things such as global warming; but, on policies to conquer Russia and grab its natural resources via privatizations, they’re remarkably united.”
3. Польские фанаты на матче в Киеве разнесли Бандеру и УПА
http://lifenews.ru/news/159713
the fans of Polish “Legion” club who rampaged through Kiev, made it clear, that they don’t appreciate Stepan Bandera and UPA.
Apparently the Polish fans were chanting:“Down with Stepan Bandera! Bandera is a male reproductive organ! Death to Bandeites. Lvov is a Polish city!”
Nothing there to disagree with.
Yes it seems there was a punch up in the center of Kiev between the two sides also (the Poles won it) and a couple of Poles were stabbed.I guess the Bandera couldn’t go for a fair fist fight and “brought knives to a fist fight” typical of fascists.
http://lifenews.ru/video/13581
China’s 70th anniversary of end of WWII against Imperial, Criminal Japan, will celebrate with South Korean President Park attending. She will make a three-day trip to China.
This has been an issue as the US has been pressuring her strongly to not attend.
But of course, Korea has been the treated badly by Japan forever and she is just strong enough to defy the US. They are trying to find a way to get rid of Mrs. Park. She is close to China for trade, investment, education of her students, and will swiftly abandon the US if North Korea ever comes to its senses (no sign of that yet).
There is virtually no friction of any kind between China and South Korea. As Eurasia and the development of Russia’s Far East unfolds, South Korea will be a player with its investments and industries.
I’m concerned by the renewed trouble in Korea the last couple of days.Something major there certainly would damage the Victory Day celebrations,now wouldn’t it,hmmm.
yeah, same thoughts here, just when the S. Korean president about to go to PRC….
Oh, my dear, thank you so much for this guided tour of some enemy bunkers in the Information War. The sheer volume is an education in itself.
May I add: get as close to original sources as you can. If the source is a published article, find it and read it. 50% of the time it is not quoted correctly by the secondary source. Many times, in the original, it is followed by a sentence starting “On the other hand . . .”
This especially applies to Wikipedia. Its great flaw is that there is no mechanism for changing something that is egregiously false so long as it correctly quotes a mainstream source. But its footnotes are a good place to start tracking back to original sources.
@ Scott,
August 18th, Crimea – President Putin answers question about Russia’s economy [source]
First, however, he took a submarine ride into the depths of the Black Sea to take a look at the ancient ship resting on the bottom [source]
The link in bold ends up at a ‘error page not found’ disclaimer.
@Rich
These should work
Thank you for pointing out.
en.kremlin.ru posts English translations of all his speeches. It takes sometimes up to a week for them to do so.
cheers
August 18th, Crimea – President Putin answers question about Russia’s economy [source]
http://rusvesna.su/economy/1439912885
First, however, he took a submarine ride into the depths of the Black Sea to take a look at the ancient ship resting on the bottom
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50147 images
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201508181817-yft1.htm
President Putin also has called Ukrainians and Russian “One nation” and said that “despite of some current difficulties” Ukraine, after unification with Russia, will built itself a much better future. Quote: «Украина встанет на ноги и будет развиваться позитивно, вместе с Россией будет строить свое будущее», – заключил он.
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201508172008-7377.htm
Here is the video of Putin’s interview in front of the crowd of people in Crimea. He’s answering the question about the situation in Donbass.
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201508181815-6574.htm
President Putin’s information meeting and a conversation with the representatives of Crimea [source] English translation
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50140
@ Scott,
Thanks, man. Appreciated.
On the same topic, this Information War:
http://regnum.ru/news/polit/1954971.html
McCain, Grybauskaitė, et al, meeting in Riga on 20 August to plan Infowar against Russia.
Euro-Parliamentarian from Latvia, ex-Minister of Defense Artis Pabriks gave the game away, when he made the following statement, in Russian (so, no excuse of “faulty translation”), and obvious that he was speaking about the propaganda war against the Russian people:
«Мы можем сказать так: с коммуникацией и пропагандой возможно выиграть войну без войны. То есть мы должны, скажем так, переубедить людей, чтобы они потеряли свою волю, они не хотели защищаться, они ненавидели своё государство».
TRANSLATION INTO ENGLISH
We can say the following: With communication and propaganda, it is possible to win the war without having to go to war. In other words, we can convince people, to the extent that they lose their will, they no longer defend themselves, they start to despise their own government.
More on the Info war against Russia:
NATO Counters Putin’s Info War: New facility to fight Russian cyber warfare and ‘propaganda attacks’
McCain is a living skull…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oz3ruFExww
War follows Mccain everywhere he goes.
Scott:
Yes, whois ostro.org gives.
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The problem is, that neither ZH nor the original article by http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-08/19/c_134535215.htm that was quoted by ZH pointed to the website ostro.org or to the original article in Russian. Not at all.
The only thing they posted as reference to the src was “the Donetsk-based Ostrov news agency reported Wednesday.”.
Normally one can trust ZH and certainly xinhuanet.com I would have expected.
Nevertheless I had written the first link to that post which I wrote (others also pointed to that article at about the same time deep down in older threads).
… I had written: /19-08-2015-military-report-of-novorossia/ ***** “if true:” *****
Later I continued for hours to find out more, then after getting help from
sickofbeingachump-mario on August 20, 2015 · at 1:18 am UTC
“””””This is what Xinhua is reporting from:
http://www.ostro.org/general/politics/news/478642/
Референдум о “вхождении ДНР в состав Российской Федерации на правах отдельного субъекта РФ” готовят «власти» так называемой ДНР. Об этом «ОстроВу» сообщил источник, близкий к руководству «республики».
No specific source within the DNR was cited.
Never heard of this website until today. However, look at the top left and at the very bottom…”””””
I then posted that it was definitely a trap that xinhuanet and later ZH (and myself) had been falling in.
So I debunked this myslef as soon as I knew more (thanks to sickofbeingachump-mario) , everybody check /19-08-2015-military-report-of-novorossia/
All this happened within a few hours from begin to end.
I thought that’s what discussing with other users is intended for … ?!
I did not publish a SITREP but simply posted that link and put it in question from beginning on.
The way how you condemn and pillory me here at the very top of your SITREP explicitly by my name is dishonorable.
Next time you do this you should also tell reders the rest of the story.
What a shame!
“…Normally one can trust ZH…”
No one can not trust them. One must be skeptical.
Excellent Scott !! and thanks for verifying some suspicions I had along with informing of info I did not see / know.
Scott: If we cannot even trust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinhua_News_Agency “The Xinhua News Agency (English pronunciation: /ˌʃɪnˈhwɑː/[1]) is the official press agency of the People’s Republic of China.” anymore, how much can we then trust Sputniknews, Tass or the Novorussia news agencies?
Not sure if you had a very bad day, but definitely you shot over the target.
@ Martin in S.E.B,
Q; Whatever: After _this_ you won’t see me again.
R; OK. If there’s one thing in life I can’t stand, it’s’ people proclaiming one thing and doing another.
You can go and sit with the politicians over there, in their row of shiny wheels, with a blinker flipped to the left, just before they take a sharp turn to the right.
But, you corrected yourself in that thread, that’s true.
Martin,my friend,I don’t think Scott or anyone else blames you for posting that.You weren’t the first one I believe (nor the last) to post about that.Scott I figure, just read your post,and so pointed it out as how people can get misled by the Ukie’s/CIA.It has happened to me,and everyone else,I figure, at various times.Please don’t feel offended.Your posts are a real advantage to this blog,and thank you for sharing them with us.
ditto!. It’s not easy to figure faux news from real, plus, the chinese aren’t exactly expert at figuring out fake stuff from real stuff on the Internet – which is one main reason why they have a tightly controlled firewall — because it’s too easy to be fooled!!!!
Hi Uncle Bob 1, my comrade,
thank you for your supportive words!
Possible that I myself also over-reacted.
But believe me: Living here in modern day Zombified US-brainwashed and NATO-occupied Germany is a real horror.
My only escape is the Pro-(Novo)Russian Internet.
But when I saw the lines that had been there, and then even at the top of a SITREP, it felt like getting backstabbed.
@ Daniel Rich:
I’m not joking. A similar incident made me quit the Saker English German translation and moderation team last year after only a short time.
And please: Never again compare me to German mainstream “politicians” other than some from the KPD (KommunistParty of Germany), which is still forbidden until this day since 1956 in West-Germany and since 1990 also here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPD-Verbot
If you want to see a good German politician, then take for example Egon Krenz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpiijuyYkts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egon_Krenz
I not only share your disgust against these complicit murderers like Merkel, Steinmeier, Rudolf Scharping, Peter Struck, Franz Josef Jung, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, Thomas de Maizière, Ursula von der Leyen (and all through all banks and ranks), but multiply your digust by 2^64, then you reach mine towards them!
I watched Maidan every day and every night via LiveStream, also when Klitschko was invited to Berlin, shortly before the final Massacre and Putsch on Maidan.
That aside:
My statement “you see me never again here …” was written on initial impact.
It should have been continued like “unless the site gets corrected”.
As you see at the top of this SITREP, this was now being done.
With that in mind everything is ok again, nothing to watch here.
More important are the Novorussian’s in DonBass, THEY NEED US!
BTW, here a look how Berlin looked 70 years ago: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2349764.html
The stupid mainstream Germans always forget who started this war and totally black out the role of the British and American Bombers, who committed these crimes knowingly and intentionally to civilian areas, while _not_ bombing industrial and military complexes before the real end. Because A) they had their own investments in these factories and wanted to protect them and B) wanted Germany to destroy Russia, and vice versa.
Unfortunately the western MSM are still controlled by the same international gang whose goal it was that Russia and Germany would be enemies. It is the same gang that wants Ukraine and Russia to be hostile. The same that destroyed the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia. And most other parts of this planet.
Once again I would like to recommend the Russian-German Friendship Youtube channel to everybody (who understands one of the 2 languages) :
Deutschland+Russland
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIoEQ9l5iGP_XLLeGhS16lw
Don’t forget: My homeland was not and is not Germany, but Communist/Soviet East-Germany:
Berlin, Hauptstadt der DDR Teil 1 / Берлин, ГДР
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZdxuOK3YuE
“Let’s go” – V put’ (в путь) in german – Nationale Volksarmee March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DdJifdnVs
A country that was ridiculed, raped, destroyed, robbed off and truly ANNEXED by the West 25 years ago, thanks to Gorbachev that damn thug.
Martin from Soviet East Berlin
… your comments are worthy, so please don’t leave.
I think all this shows how easy it is for any of us to get caught out in the ‘disinformation wars’.
Cheers … our son lives in S.E.B too.
I’ve always admired this song.I think it gave hope and was one of the great anthems of the World.Its a shame everything ended as it did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM
U Bob,
it may be a shame. While the Soviet ideal was admirable it’s demise was inevitable.
From Oligarchy to Oligarchy: The Structure of Russia’s Ruling Elite https://www.gwu.edu/~ieresgwu/assets/docs/demokratizatsiya%20archive/07-3_Graham.pdf
“The fundamental condition that has historically given rise to and sustained the oligarchy – the close intertwining of power and property – remains unchanged.”
Thanks for the link.
It provides a fairly detailed overview of the political-economic structure Putin stepped into.
Putin, of course, utterly demolished the author’s final section and conclusions, but everything up to that point is more than worth reading.
Thanks Anonymoous, I’ll take a look. Of course since it’s written under the auspices of Carnegie Endlowment (part of US power structure) I assume it won’t mention any control or facilitation of Russian oligarchs by the US.
Us oligarchs are bankers and bank holding companies who control the major transnational corps, including the media. They choose the presidential and important Congressional candidates, and thru the president other administration figures & the upper-most level of the military. I wd expect that bankers play a lesser role in Russia, since Russia’s central bank is controlled by the IMF/Fed system.
Thanks for the link; I’m sure I’ll learn something.
Martin, please stay. Last year we had a discussion about Sassnitz. Also about similarities between Sweden and DDR in an age that is no more. We didn’t have as many red flags, but when I watch “Auferstanden Aus Ruinen” I recognize a lot. Before I was born, the Socialdemocrats started building “Folkhemmet” [Volksheim, peoples home] and it was peaceful and people friendly. Traces of the project survived when I was a teenager. Enough for me to understand your feelings and your loss. Sweden is a colony today. Our politicians administer the decay, that is all.
I travelled around Europe as much as I could when I was young. Knowing that much has changed, I dare not visit Germany and France again. I want to preserve good memories of what we have lost. Unfortunately, except for the harbour of Sassnitz, I never saw DDR. I wish I had.
DDR:s national anthem is a message of peace. Not all anthems are like that.
Btw, how do you say peoples home in Russian? I guess people would understand “doma narodna”, though it is probably bad Russian. I need to learn the language better.
Dear Comrade Martin from S.E.B, formerly known as Martin Bochnig, I do not think Scott wanted to name you for getting you in evidence but because you fall him friendly as happens to me.
It is clear from further that you are a very good person, because even when you get angry, result so charming. That’s “the way in which you burn me here at the very top spot of your city’s market” I found invaluable, but if you look like a Spanish!….
Martin, tovarishch, please stay on the blog, you’re the only person I know reminiscent of the USSR, and who appreciates something from granpa Stalin. You and I should take a trip to Russia without taking too long, certainly we will like to visit many places that others do not.
Knowing now that you are out of work, I understand you’re discouraged, maybe you could try it in Russia since you live close ….
Have hope, although not exactly the USSR again, we will have something similar if not better, you will see.
Hugs from the Basque Country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrXP7kEeVXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cie5028jWSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEx_-cb38UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzT7ghFvuXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxZPIdEq8EE
Nice work, Scott, on the expose of the zionazi Soros covert ops and on the sitrep.
so what’s the bottom line for Alaska ? Terrible oil spills and devestation for the animals and Inuit peoples…gross…
Scott, Thank you for continuing to cover the institutions which make up the New World Order (or neoliberal economic globalism). Your section immediately under the heading “The Third World War” helps people to understand that the fight is not only military.
You said, “Armed with this knowledge, there is One and only Step that all the non-western countries should take – to declare all western debt being Odious, predatory and colonial and turn to non-western banks and sources of financing.”
I would go a step further and recommend that all countries recapture the ability to issue their own currency without its being controlled by the IMF/Fed system.
When countries issue their own investment currency and credits without paying interest to the global banking cabal most investment can be managed internally without the need for foreign capital.
This is recommended by Michael Hudson, Ellen Brown & others. Starikov refers to the same thing when he says that Russia should nationalize the ruble. To allow the IMF/Fed system to continue to control the amount of local currency issued is to prevent ones own financial sovereignty.
Starikov indicates why Russia (and perhaps the rest of the BRICS) have not broken w this system: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/nikolai-starikov-how-escape-western-economic-system/ri8781
At 5:02 he says “Today a certain system dominates. And we cannot refuse this system at once because the world will not recognize our currency and our country and there will be a big blockade. The way of small steps towards creation of the alternative center of issue will be more correct. ” [The 7 mid-east nations attcked by US were not members of IMF or WTO –Penelope]
At 5:59 “Therefore a return to the multipolar world has to begin with the alternative center of issue.” [of currency/credit]
At 6:30 “Staying in this system is more favorable to China at the moment than a one-stage gap with it. China grows in this system, plays by the rules. China has huge gold and foreign exchange reserve and Americans cannot tell it is just paper and computer zeros.”
6:59 “It is possible to quit the system only in a case when the exit from it is more favorable than staying in this system.”
And I say: They are going to crash the world economy and tell us the only cure is a single world currency. Will it be easier THEN to opt out? Surely in chaos and desperation nations will opt to go along. However difficult to change now, BRICS or another group must weaken the institutions of the NWO by withdrawing from them. To wait for a “better time” is an illusion.
Thanks Scott and good call on RI.
Don’t be scared Scott,
Start your own blog. Your site-reps are the only reason I come here anymore, that and on the RARE occasion when the Saker posts something besides a you tube video, with sub-titles. I’ve been internetting since ’98 on a slip account. I have seen them come and go. Saker seems to have the big head at the moment. I am certain you could expand on any of the topics above and create enough content to merit your own site.
You have wit and facts on your side. You’ll do well either way. You could wordpress or typepad it. Moon of Alabama is on typepad I think and he has a well informed audience. He sticks mainly to Middle eastern affairs though and there is a huge void when it comes to Russian/Ukranian issues that you could fill. Yah, I got all the sites.
I appreciate you.
b4real
Saker seems to have the big head at the moment. I am certain you could expand on any of the topics above and create enough content to merit your own site.
The usual sow division routine.
Moon of Alabama is on typepad I think and he has a well informed audience. He sticks mainly to Middle eastern affairs though and there is a huge void when it comes to Russian/Ukranian issues that you could fill.
I’m sure “uncle bernhard”, that’s “b”, the blogger at Moon of Alabama, appreciates the plug for his blog, not to mention the recruitment pitch to Scott.
Pretty sleazy stuff, that. Though typical of zionists. The MoA blogger has used his blog as a platform to disparage Saker. MoA is a pro-zionist, AZZ site (anti-zionist-zionist, a term Gilad Atzmon created to describe pro-zionist phony leftists). I’ll bet Saker gets more traffic than MoA – zios don’t like that :D it really hurts their ability to dominate the web and enforce their propaganda.
bot tak
I read you. I know you have had troubles at MOA. Not sowing division here, not a troll. Scott has talent, as does the Saker. I truly miss reading the Saker’s viewpoints and articles, he has a truly unique talent and gift for getting his points across and simplifying what would otherwise be confusing topics. Ever since he went worldwide, he hardly writes here, and personally, I come here for his views, and now also for Scott’s site reps.
I wish I didn’t have to sift through all the videos, but I am from a different era and prefer my information in text format, so accept my point of view for what it is.
Your opinion of MOA, is just that, an opinion, I won’t debate that. My reference to MOA was that all of its content is created by a single individual who I find informative and he draws a highly intelligent group of posters there, yourself being one of them. That is all.
Be good.
b4real
and he draws a highly intelligent group of posters there, yourself being one of them.
“Uncle Bernhard” booted me off the site more than 2 years ago for being anti-zionist. I think I had been there around half a year. But that is better than the treatment what Mulga Mumblebrain got. He was zapped there in less than a week, only a couple of days, If I remember right.
But thanks for the compliment. ;D
Thanks Scott – very informative indeed. I am going to print out this to be more cautious in future.
In defence of all, including the regular posters here, I think everyone is fairly aware of disinfo and usually add caveats to links they are uncertain about. Vigilance is key – nessun dorma!! :)
A telling snippet of the international scale and the top-down manufacture/collusion of/with terrorism here:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article188379.html
There is no way known jihadists could operate like this – acquiring land, training materiel without the support of officialdom in Bosnia-Herzegovina. No doubt this is a source for the Chechnen terrorists too.
Well, the thing is, if you are major media, or want to compete with it, you will get your head chopped off, figuratively, if you talk about “Zios” and a few other nameless No Nos. Alex Jones is the Alternative Media King, and he is very guarded or else they would shut him down. If you fly under the radar, you can say whatever you want, but if you are a major news anchor, like Brian Williams, and you wander off the reservation (as he did) then you get yanked out of your chair.
Megyn Kelly is/was the media’s golden girl, but she’s on vacation because she ruined herself attacking Trump. She exposed herself, now she’s done. These shills have to be real careful. She came on way too strong. Bill O’Reilly is glad he didn’t do it!
John F. Kennedy was planning to buy a major Boston newspaper after he left office (hah!) and JFK jr. didn’t get too far with his publication, and JFK’s mentor, James Forrestal, wanted to start an “alternative” newspaper before he fell off the 16th floor of the Bethesda Naval Hospital, so you get the picture.
Disinformation is part and parcel of modern life. Just roll with it. Really, it comes under the rubric of espionage.
Penelope,
OT, but still relevant to disinfo theme: an expose of the extent MSM (here, the BBC) is engaged in ‘manufacturing consensus’ to a level far beyond mere distortion:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bbc-saving-syrias-children-documentary-staged-events-fake-video-footage/5470158
It certainly increases the probability of the Boston bombing being a staged psychops..and it has a collusion theme between military/Intel (NATO in this case) and Muslim operatives too.
Eimar, Did you LOOK at the photo evidence I supplied re Boston Bombing? http://deepinsidetherabbithole.com/The_Boston_Bombing_Hoax.html
The second link shows photos taken from a different angle by a different person.
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So far as I know Sandy Hook was the first hoax (as opposed to false flag) The link I supplied about Sandy Hook is the only explanation I’ve seen as why they are practicing w hoaxes:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/02/RIR-140205.php This loads erratically btw. If when you click on it you get a lady w sunglasses, scroll down to the video arrow & click on that.
Here’s just one add’l teaser on Sandy Hook:
” I think one of the more interesting aspects to this is the relation of the Iroquois gas line, the major squabble over it being put in through where Sandy Hook elementary is, and that also most all of the victims houses line up to where the gas line as put through. Coincidentally, many of the houses the victims were supposed to have lived in at the time of the shooting were all sold on 12/25/09, which is the same time Iroquois gas, Newtown, and the State of Connecticut can be found to have purchased most, if not almost all of the victims homes – which in another remarkable coincidence..all line up under where Iroquois Gas ran their new line.”
That’s an investigative para from a site that’s been taken down; she found that when the victims “moved in” (if they did) at least a great number of the homes had all been vacated by prior owners due to Iroquois gas having bought up when the gas line went thru. “Shooter’s” family lived in one of those homes too. After the incident, several people tried to gain entrance to the neighborhood in their cars, were turned back. One guy made it further on foot before being turned back; he said there were no cars & no people.
Eimar, Yeah, the “chem attack” on the Syrian children took place in the middle of the night, but every one of them is wearing day clothes. A few were identified as having been among those kidnapped at Latakia.
Is the BBC link you supplied from the chem attack too– or some other “theatre”. Ghastly acting. The adult’s shredded clothing about as believable as the shredded clothing in the Boston Bomb link I supplied.
Thank you, comrades and Ladies, for commenting.
@b4real Thanks for your advice. However, I don’t think that the world would benefit from yet another wordpress blog. Plus, Saker is so noble, kind, knowledgeable, intellectually nurturing, and forward looking that so many great people are being attracted to him and his ideas. In times like this, we stick together.
take care
I feel you Scott,
Some things I just have to bear.
I do like your writing style and wit. It fills a void (for me) here while Saker is out playing Brokaw. ;)
Take care.
b4real