I am probably going to regret doing this, but I will do it anyway (sigh): I will post maps. In fact, I am going to do this three times!
First, a video of the Ukrainian advances since their counter-attack: (no sound)
Second, here is a map to give you a closer look:
And finally a Google map of the area with the actual distance between Balakleia and Kupiansk indicated:
So what I am trying to show here?
Two things:
- This is, by far, the most successful Ukrainian attack since the SMO began
- This entire battle is limited to a short and very narrow segment of the line of contact.
The Ukrainian plan is very simple: show NATO the best they can do and it appears that the best they can do is to conduct a tactical attack (not an operational level one!) at an immense costs in human lives.
Hardly a reason to celebrate (for the Ukronazis) or to freak out (for Russians).
The fact that a “super-dooper US military commander and genius strategist” like Blinken has traveled to Kiev is no coincidence and it is rather evident the true reason why this entire show has been executed is pretty obvious: Blinken is desperate to make President Brandon look good/better/less clueless (“Presidential” in US parlance) before the upcoming elections. Blinken in Kiev is not unlike BoJo in Kiev: just a brain-dead ignoramus demanding “total war” against the Russians at, literally, any cost (to the Ukrainians, of course, and they are both irrelevant and expandable for Uncle Shmuel).
I can also clearly see that US/NATO PSYOPs are out in full force again (and I am sure that they will instantly pounce on the comments section below) trying to make it look as if the Ukronazis were about to take the Kremlin. Not only are Western PYSOPs feeding their usual nonsense to the folks in the West, they are also very active in the many Russian Telegram channels.
And the fact that the Russian MoD had nothing to say about it this for already 48 hours only adds to the sense of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) created by this massive PSYOPs effort (more about that below). And, alas, yes, Russian information operations still suck and are Kindergarten level when compared to the multi-billion dollars PSYOP industry available to the Western ruling class (aka Neocons).
So, setting aside all hysterics and silly rumors, what do we know so far?
So far, the Nazis have made their initial push, and they have already brought in reinforcements. But, at least so far, they have failed to further develop this tactical attack into an operational offensive. The entire area the Ukrainians have taken back is roughly the size of the frontal assault of a single division.
Please keep in mind that the Russians cannot (well, will not, since that would violate basic Russian tactical/operational norms) commit their operational reserves until they are quite convinced that 1) the Ukronazis are fully committed to specific (one or more) axes of attack 2) that the Ukrainian reserves are fully committed and 3) that no other major (relatively speaking) attack is feasible elsewhere along the line of contact.
In theory, if successful, this Ukrainian attack could threaten Russian forces in all sorts of ways, but I personally don’t believe that this will happen as the Russians are, according to numerous reports, concentrating very large forces to contain the Ukrainian attack. Furthermore, the Ukrainian advances *already* has come at a *huge* cost in personnel (again!).
Also, please consider this: the further East the Ukronazi forces go, the less artillery they will have to support them: shorter range artillery systems (like small-medium caliber mortars) will either be too far, or will have to be moved forward (at great risk) and only long range artillery (MLRS & HIMARS) will be able to support the Ukrainian attack. And, of course, it is much easier to resupply the Ukrainian attack force while it is closer to the Ukrainian rear than when the resupplies will have to be brought through a very dangerous and highly contested area!
For the Russian side, it is exactly the opposite: the closer the Ukrainian forces moves East, the more firepower the Russians can unleash against them and the shorter and safer distance Russian logistics have to deal with.
The same goes for airpower. The further East the Ukrainians move, the safer it will be for Russian CAS to strike them from a (relatively) safe(r) position as most of the Ukrainian air defenses are further back and the only type of air defenses the Ukrainians have en masse for this attacks mostly MANPADs (Igla, Strela, Stinger, Osa, etc.) which are only effective against some types of aircraft (Mi-24s and Mi-8s) and almost useless against others (Mi-28, Ka-52, Su-25).
I spend a few hours reading the reports of the (very few) Russian military correspondents I trust (including Evgenii Poddubnyi, imho the best one of them) and it is pretty clear that nothing is clear. There are major clashes (not even a real “battle” in the military sense of the word!) being fought with, on one side, Ukrainian forces and (lots) of foreign mercenaries and, on the other side, Russian Guards (Rosgvardiia) and airborne units. Which means that the Ukrainian forces are heavier, at least on the ground, as neither the Guards nor the airborne forces have heavy armor. However, this is partially already compensated by the Russian artillery and CAS. But the Russian military itself has not yet engaged her mechanized and armored forces, this will happen either today or in the next couple of days at which point things will get even worse for the advancing Ukrainian forces.
So right now, we simply need to wait for what will happen next. This one is simply too early to call.
Still, I know what most readers are thinking: did the Russians screw up pretty badly or is this some kind of fancy Russian plan to pull the Ukrainians into attacking and then destroying them?
Truth be told, I don’t know.
What I do know is that there are A LOT of very unhappy voices in the Russian blogosphere and this is hardly surprising. First, the Western PSYOPs are making the most of this, and part of the Russian audience is freaking out. Second, most Russians are now too young to remember WWII and thus there are also plenty of Russians who simply do not understand that a retreat does not necessarily mean “disaster” (though it CAN mean that too, depends on the circumstances) and that this is simply what warfare is all about.
Simply put, any new type of warfare, like the SMO, always implies two things:
- Mistakes are inevitably made and need to be corrected and
- Some aspects of the operational planning need to be adjusted or even changed completely
==>>These things are NORMAL, they “come with the territory” if you wish.<<==
In Russian there is an expression “this is unpleasant/upsetting but not dangerous” (это обидно, но не опасно). I think that this fully applies here: nobody in Russia is particularly happy about what is taking place (except maybe the Russian General Staff IF we assume that this is all a big trap the Russians deliberately created, and there is some evidence for that as the force concentrations prior to this attack were reported by numerous observers, so it was hardly a secret that the Ukronazis were about to attack somewhere in the northeast). But we need to really keep aware of the proportions of what is happening: after six months of warfare, this is the first and only Ukrainian attack which shows some real capabilities, and it is all limited to a rather narrow corridor within the Russian tactical defenses only! As I said, these are strong tactical attacks and clashes, but the size of them does not even amount to a real “battle” or “offensive”, at least not in the military sense of the word.
Now if the Russians do not take back the initiative over this week-end, then things might seriously become alarming and we could speak of the first operational success of the Ukronazis and their Neocon masters.
Could that happen? Yes, absolutely.
Should we assume it will? No, this is too soon to come to such a conclusion.
So wait and see is the best I can suggest at this point in time.
One more thing: it appears that the Ukronazis have, yet again, attempted an amphibious landing near the ZNPP and, yet again, their fast attack craft were destroyed before they could reach land. Yet another attempt to get a desperately needed “peremoga” which ended up in disaster.
Remember “Ze”‘s “million soldiers army”? Of course, this statement was laughable. But there is more to this, I think. I personally see that as a type of Freudian slip in which “Ze” shows his confidence that he still has immense reserves of cannon fodder to send in all sorts of attacks à la “Charge of the Light Brigade“.
“Ze” knows: his future depends on President Brandon and right now what President Brandon needs the most is some kind of “peremoga” of his own to show the people of the USA that the US military – and, therefore, is proxy forces – is still the “‘The Finest Fighting Force in the History of the World” (as per Obama’s dixit – and who could possibly doubt that military expert?!), which it never was, but nevermind that since US Americans don’t study history, even less so the history of warfare (or, when they do, they “study” a Hollywood version thereof).
There is a sad, pathetic, irony in the fact that ignorant brainwashed US Americans are hanging Ukie flags in support of the Nazi regime in Kiev while their own rulers are basically committing genocide against the peoples of the Ukraine!
That is about as ignorant and stupid as ignorant and stupid gets…
Finally, please also check out Andrei Martyanov‘s and Bernhard‘s views on this on their respective websites:
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/09/as-was-expected.html
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/the-izium-counteroffensive-success-disaster.html
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And since it is Friday, I will leave you with some music which I hope that you will enjoy. In this case, I want to share with you several versions of Chick Corea’s composition “Spain” (one of my absolute favorite ones to interpret and improvise over). Enjoy!
First, Chick Corea himself with Hiromi Uehara:
Next, the Spain as interpreted by the group “Nation of Five”:
Next, John McLaughlin with Paco de Lucia:
and, lastly, the vocal version of Al Jarreau:
Let’s admits the utter military incompetence out f the Russian general in charge of the Kharkov area.
This sector always showed poor performance since the beginning.
I have strong pro Russia views since my childhood and feel humilated with the shameful situation.
How it can be possible.
Right now the Russian troops withdrawn from almost all Kharkov.
They now Izyum and probably Liman
All of this could have been avoided if someone in Kremlin ordered an assault to Kyev in the beginning of the conflict.
“That is about as ignorant and stupid and ignorant and stupid gets”, you say. Well, with all that kazillions spent on keeping people ignorant and stupid, the blame is not on the people, I’d say.
This here quote gets increasingly hard to find on the Internet. Google does its best not to find it, if at all possible.
“If people really knew, the war would be stopped tomorrow, but of course they don’t and can’t know. The correspondents don’t write and the censorship won’t pass the truth… The thing is horrible and beyond human nature to bear and I feel I can’t go on with this bloody business…”
— David Lloyd George
They moved to fast and to far for any support to help them ”suicide”
Regardless of current events, it seems that strategy of Russians who fight with peacetime army, is: slowly and steadily increase pressure on Ukraine till the moment of sudden non-linear breakdown of all resistance. Due to material and mental exhaustion of Ukraine and allies in environment of “mother of all crises”. Strategy is not without risks.
As the Russian SMO is not a land grab then the Ukies are once again aiding with the demilitarization and de-nazifying of Ukraine as this appears to be significantly gathering pace. The Ukies are kind of “falling on their own bayonets” !
I am reporting to you the situation in the Russian hinterland. As of 10.09.2022, most of the people in villages and small towns do not yet know about the return of their territories by Ukraine. Few people read alternative media and Telegram channels here. Only active literate youth and serious adults interested in politics. The news here is learned mainly from the evening editions on TV and the splash screen of the browser home page. In these news and political talk shows, until 09.09.2022, nothing was said at all about the breakthrough of Ukrainians. Although there were no obvious lies about the victories. It was obvious from the appearance of the presenters how uncomfortable it was for them to remain silent about the events in the Balakleya area. By the way, the largest Shebelinsky gas field in Ukraine is located there. Therefore, it is possible (or maybe not), the purpose of the attack is to return it to Ukraine in case the gas supply from Russia stops. There is no mass censorship and harassment for talking about politics. But in the news, even at the beginning of the operation, several stories were shown about bringing naive idle chatterers to criminal responsibility, and therefore most people reasonably keep their mouths shut. But the disinhibition effect works on the Internet and Internet addicts write anything. There is no patriotic frenzy in the outback. There are a small number of volunteers who support the soldiers morally and with parcels with non-standard equipment. Thus, the news about the failure in the war will reach the population of Russia who is not sitting on the Internet only today. It is unlikely that it will cause mass unrest now, since this is not yet an obvious catastrophe. Most people have long been aware of corruption, theft, incompetence, fraud during inspections and in reports to superiors. But nothing happens. Incompetent managers remain in their places.
On 09/10/2022 at 17:10 Moscow time, the Russian Defense Ministry in its TG channel reports:
“In order to achieve the stated goals of the special military operation to liberate Donbass, it was decided to regroup Russian troops located in the Balakleya and Izyum areas to increase efforts in the Donetsk direction. To this end, an operation was carried out within three days to curtail and organize the transfer of the Izyum-Balakleya group of troops to the territory of the Donetsk People’s Republic. During this operation, a number of distracting and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the actual actions of the troops.”
Thus, officially, the military still does not talk about the offensive of the Banderites.
There is a children’s fairy tale by the Danish writer Hans Christian Andersen “The Emperor’s New Dress”.
People in Russia, of course, knew that everything was not well in the army. After all, most men in Russia served in the army and saw the show-off firsthand. But because of patriotism, after all, I want to think that the army on parade and the army in reality are the same thing.
What’s the point of getting emotional, I’ll just follow the development of events that I can’t influence.
Saker wrote:
“I spend a few hours reading the reports of the (very few) Russian military correspondents I trust (including Evgenii Poddubnyi, imho the best one of them) and it is pretty clear that nothing is clear”.
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Somewhere from the beginning of the summer, around the time you went on sick leave, it became impossible to watch the reports of Russian war correspondents without doing a facepalm. Because there is no specifics in their messages, only abstractions. It is not necessary, of course, to divulge military secrets, but at least there should be some specifics.
And when a person speaks abstractly – when he has no information about the subject of the conversation, when he does not understand what he is trying to talk about.
It will sound rude, of course, but we have an old ruined barn, a garbage dump and bushes here on the outskirts. You can shoot a video and it will look like the captured positions of Bandera. And you don’t have to go to any Donbass. Such quality became the reports of military journalists.
Apparently, the decrease in specifics at the beginning of the summer should have signaled that everything was not well with the course of the operation. If the offensive has stopped, then the forces of the armies have become equal. And Russian MoD began to embellish the picture.
Well, okay, we’re waiting to see what happens next.
George
Thank you indeed. Exaggarating only slightly, you must be the first Russian posting in this forum. What do you think, would Russians support leaving the SMO format and transitioning to all out war against Ukraine instead?
I am also wondering how Putin himself is communicating with the Russian people. He gives a lot of speeches, but are any of them directed towards the Russians as opposed to some special or foreign audiences?
And thank you for your attention to my comment.
From observing my surroundings, I can say that people in the hinterland of Russia now trust Putin. Not because of the lack of information about the Bandera breakthrough, but because he is still a good man, during whose reign the lives of people in Russia have improved significantly.
According to my feelings, people would support the activation and expansion of the scale of operations in Ukraine (even to the scale of the war with NATO), provided that there are prompt and effective changes within Russia. Aimed at removing incompetent managers, as well as those involved in theft and corruption.
If such changes do not begin urgently, then in case of failures in the operation in Ukraine, Putin risks quickly losing the support of the people, including the army, police, and Rosgvardiya. It was tedious to start the process back in March 2022, but so far only propaganda hype, and no real changes are felt.
Putin is a good speaker. He speaks simply, clearly and sincerely. Therefore, his recent performances are well received by people in Russia. It is clear from the speeches that their addressee is Russian citizens. These are not performances for a foreign audience.
George:
Você está muito enganado sobre os discursos de Putin!
Sou Professor de Geografia no Brasil, utilizei um dos discursos em sala de aula (imprimi, cada aluno levou uma para casa, frente e verso, uma folha de A-4).
Recebi pais de alunos nos dias seguintes, no término do horário, vieram na escola me elogiar dada a iniciativa de mostrar a realidade.
Tradução Google:
George:
You are very wrong about Putin’s speeches!
I am a Geography Teacher in Brazil, I used one of the speeches in the classroom (I printed it, each student took one home, front and back, an A-4 sheet).
I received parents of students in the following days, at the end of the day, they came to the school to praise me for the initiative to show the reality.
One independent Russian blogger with the pseudonym El-Murid recently described the main problem in Russia in this way:
“Those decisions that for some reason are taken as irreversible, in the Kremlin’s execution look (and are) a complete disaster, since the lack of a project management culture, and now the final loss of this extremely useful skill, leads to the inability to complete what has been started, to fix the result. And this is a chronic and critical problem of the regime, which accompanies it for more than twenty years of the incumbent leader’s stay in power.”
Operation Z: Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring
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Boris Rozhin
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According to the situation at 16-00.
1. Enemy light infantry was spotted at the northern entrance to Izyum. There are no confirmation videos from the city itself yet. The withdrawal of troops to Oskol began at night. However, there is still no evidence that the enemy is in Izyum.
2. Krasny Liman and Yampol were held by the RF Armed Forces in the middle of the day. Enemy attacks are repelled. Oskol, as far as one can understand, is also controlled by the RF Armed Forces, which allows you to keep the road in the direction of Izyum.
3. The western part of Kupyansk is controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Eastern Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The enemy is also probing the possibility of advancing northwest of Kupyansk in the direction of Veliky Buruluk.
4. Svatovo under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The front is now at Oskol. Columns of refugees from Izyum and Kupyansk pass through the city.
5. It is reported that the enemy transported several DRGs near Khotomly (he had already landed there before, but he was driven out from there). The enemy is also shelling Volchansk in order to sow panic.
6. The stuffing about the loss of Aleksandrovka near Kherson, which was dispersed today, is either due to a mistake or disinformation, the enemy occupied the village of Aleksandrovka near Shevchenkovo. Aleksandrovka near Kherson under the control of the RF Armed Forces – enemy attacks there were repulsed.
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as a psyop its a failure in the West, sadly for Zelensky the Queen had the impertenence to die thus wiping anything about Ukraine from the pages of all the newspapapers and into oblivion, at least for the next 10 days until after the funeral and the British themselves are incredinbly mawkish about this sort of thing so will be in mourning for months. Haven’t seen a single story about ukraine anywhere near the front pages for days and even online the Ukies are buried way, way down in the scroll if represented at all. Justice can sometimes be sweet!
@thesaker..
I guess it s ok to stare when you are wrong.
Ukraine is mich tougher than everybody expected
All this on Harkow direction, all this Russian loss if true, it is very strange and weird.
Simply cannot be rationally explained. Russians have air domination, artillery domination and such a disaster cannot be explained.
I do not know but something very strange is going on.
@ Sarajevo man on September 10, 2022 · at 9:51 am EST/EDT
I do not know but something very strange is going on.
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Not enough boots on the ground. That’s what’s going on.
You can have all the weaponry, without manpower, sooner or later, you’re bound to have setbacks.
Lone Wolf
I believe the Russians went in with two hundred thousand,Russia had better get serious because they are fighting Nato not Ukraine,why is there still an airport or railway standing in Ukraine?and Russia has not gone after the Nazi high command,its hard to tell the real situation near Karkhiv but it doen’t look great,i worry for the civilians in the areas the Nazis have captured,their Einsazgruppen will be moving in,wonder if there will be a partial mobilisation? i have seen a report on another forum that there is fighting near Donesk airport,could be fake news but if not how could that happen seven years after the DPR took it? and Donetsk should not still be subjected to shelling seven months into this operation.
“Russians have air domination”
Critics early on were pointing to Russia not hardly using their bombers in Ukraine and saying that meant it did not have air domination. Russia doesn’t fly its planes much over Ukrainian controlled territory due to anti-aircraft. So all the reports of air domination were untrue. Russia merely surprised/shocked Ukraine and the west at the very beginning by going much further than they expected. But since then they regrouped and were heavily supplied with NATO weapons and intelligence, plotting all along, and they took the initiative against Russia which barely had the troops to hold the land it did (and that’s why they weren’t advancing). They were stalled for months.
Ukraine (with NATO help) was underestimated, and the SMO should have been converted into a genuine war last April or May, instead of become too conservative and content to hold the line.
Spain by Yohan Kim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-WpHTKll94
The Ukrainians have mentioned that they want to redo oluja and drive all russians and russianspeakers out of ukraine for many years.
Ukrainians took part in oluja and croats are now part of the foreign legion.
They are both the house negro uncle tom equivalent in the slavic culture.
Domesticated pro german/ anglo happy slaves who dream to be like their masters.
Build a wall at the border and let them be happy slaves. But put in any constitution
of a true slavic country that this state is eternal and any kind of help for these pro nato
slavs is illegal. If one day their masters decide to cull them so be it.
In 2014 a much higher percentage of ukrainians were pro russian then in 2022.
And whatever pro russians were left in the villages and towns that ukraine now
takes back will be dead if they have shown any lack of devotion to the religion
of Bandera during the russian controled time.
So even if russia will take it back later their will be even less people left who do not hate them.
1. cause those who liked them were killed
2. the friends and family of those who liked them and were killed cause of them.
3. those who hated them all the time
And do not forget every pro russian civilan that the ukrainians kill will show up on
the world news as a patriotic ukrainian that the russians killed to get more weapons
more voluntarys and more countries to join the sanctions.
I slowly get the feeling that china has played Putin and will at some point join the west
under some kind of deal over taiwan. Their dedication to the russians is 0.
Hell Erdogan does more then china… and he is a sworn enemy of all slavs and christians.
Of course he does it for a reason but chine does f… all.
Croats?
How many Croats …five or six. Maybe ten…
Oluja and this in Harkow have absolutely nothing in common
Les chefs Ukrainiens font de la bravade mais il perdent la tête en réalité car, c’est une situation idéale pour tailler en pièce l’armée Ukrainienne qui a percé et se retrouver renforcée au nord-est de Kramatorsk pour enchaîner par l’encerclement de l’armée du Donbass par le Nord afin de rejoindre la poussée qui s’effectue actuellement au niveau de Donetsk. Les Ukrainiens n’auront pas le choix ils devront évacuer dans urgence de façon désorganisée perdant tout leur système défensif. Ce sera fini Kiev devra alors capituler….
Franchement, je ne suis pas certain que les Ukrainiens n’aient pas foncé tête baissée dans un piège à con.
Machine Translation:
The Ukrainian leaders are bravado but they are losing their minds in reality because it is an ideal situation to tear apart the Ukrainian army that has broken through and find itself reinforced north-east of Kramatorsk to follow up with the encirclement of the Donbass army from the North in order to join the push that is currently taking place at the Donetsk level. The Ukrainians will have no choice they will have to evacuate urgently in a disorganized way losing all their defensive system. It will be over Kiev will then have to capitulate….
Frankly, I am not sure that the Ukrainians did not plunge headlong into a con trap.
MOSCOW, September 10. /TASS/. Russian Aerospace Forces hit Ukrainian National Guard 5th Brigade headquarters, as well as deployment locations of Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Kraken nationalist battalion near Balakleya and Chuguyev with precision air-based weapons, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov said Saturday.
“Russian Aerospace Forces hit Ukrainian National Guard 5th Brigade headquarters, as well as temporary accommodation locations of the 92nd Mechanized Brigade and the Kraken nationalist militia near Balakleya and Chuguyev, Kharkov Region,” Konashenkov said.
According to the spokesman, Russian forces also eliminated the command post of the 54th Mechanized Brigade near Ray-Aleksandrovka, DPR.
“Up to 300 Ukrainian servicemen and up to 15 military vehicles were destroyed,” he added.
Russian forces hit seven Ukrainian Armed Forces command posts in DPR and Nikolayev Region, as well as 48 enemy artillery units in 178 districts, Konashenkov said.
“In the past 24 hours, a total of 7 UAF command posts were hit near settlements of Rozovka, Ocheretino, Vodyanoye, Novomikhaylovka and Ugledar (DPR), near Snigiryovka and Novonikolayevka (Nikolayev Region), in addition to 48 artillery units, personnel and military vehicles in 178 districts,” he said.
Ukrainian drones:
Russian Air Defense systems downed 13 Ukrainian drones and intercepted 5 HIMARS rockets, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said.
“Air defenses downed 13 drones near settlements of Chkalovo and Belyayevka (Kherson Region), Krasnoye (Kharkov Region), Smeloye, Staromlynovka and Novoukrainskoye (Zaporozhye Region), as well as near Novoandreyevka, Valeryanovka, Kirillovka and Panteleymonovka (DPR). Five HIMARS multiple launch rocket system missiles were destroyed in-flight near Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson Region,” the spokesman said.
Rockets:
Russian Armed Forces eliminated six rocket artillery weapons and ammunition depots in DPR, Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye Regions, Konashenkov said.
“A total of six rocket artillery weapons and ammunition depots were eliminated near settlements of Kurakhovo, Konstantinovka and Seversk, DPR, Dnepr and Radushnoye (Dnepropetrovsk Region), Gulyay Pole (Zaporozhye Region),” Konashenkov said.
Russian Armed Forces suppressed two Ukrainian rocket artillery squads and five field artillery squads in DPR, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said.
“Two reactive artillery squads and five field artillery squads were eliminated during counter-battery fight near settlements of Georgiyevka, Krasnogorovka, Antonovka, Romanovka, Ocheretino, Novgorodskoye and Novosyolovka, DPR,” he said.
Furthermore, a US-made M777 howitzer was destroyed near the settlement of Novosyolovka-1.
Radars:
Russian Armed Forces destroyed a Ukrainian radar near Kaluga, Nikolayev Region, in the past 24 hours, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov said Saturday.
“An air target detection and tracking radar was destroyed near the settlement of Kaluga, Nikolayev Region,” Konashenkov said.
https://tass.com/russia/1505775
This is for everyone posting panicky/negative comments here.
Listen to last “The New Atlas” video by Brian Berletic for the rational review of the situation.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3zNxBahukU)
Also you can listen to Scott Ritter’s last assessment here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBm1n5yNVO4)
Also don’t forget the latest reviews of Alexander Mercouris/ Alex Christoforou about this offensive by Ukraine.
Sorry to disrupt the concerto.
The person that sent me this captioned it, “One Russian saying it as it is.”
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https://russtrat.ru/poziciya-eleny-paninoy/9-sentyabrya-2022-1548-11162
MOSCOW, September 9, 2022, RUSSTRAT Institute.
Just a few days ago, attention was focused on the Kherson region, now-on Kupyansk and Izyum. However, we must understand that we are not talking about any local events. The nature of the war has changed. Since the end of August, the fighting in Ukraine has taken on a qualitatively new character. The United States and NATO have finally dropped their masks and are no longer hiding behind Ukrainian formations. The APU turned into a robot avatar controlled by a NATO operator, who not only sets combat tasks, but also directs their implementation in real time. Moreover, there is an upward escalation of armed actions against Russia.
All these factors require a radical rethink of the situation and a change of strategy. And not only for the Russian armed forces. Now we are talking about protecting our citizens on the territory of the Russian Federation, protecting the national sovereignty of the country.
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Lone Wolf
Yes, the the concerto on this site has become so self reinforcing that the commentators are beginning to lose their credibility. The only way to stop the West is to directly attack them. Otherwise, with the infinite support of the US arms complex and gradual introduction of actual NATO troops, what is happening right now will become the norm across the front.
Many of those “actual NATO troops” (and their commanders) have already been annihilated or surrendered out of Azovstal in Mariupol. They’ve been in battle from the start, and their numbers are dwindling.
There is no “infinite support of the US arms complex.” Even if sending more weapons to growing numbers of nato soldiers MIA or KIA weren’t a big enough lie, in and of itself.
I don’t like to go into a discussion with somebody that knows about military 10 times more then me but this analysis didn’t hold up because 12 hours latter it’s worthless because regardless how this ends p military wise this is a propaganda win of Stalingrad proportions for NATO because even if the Russians reverse this,and right now i don’t see how,this prolongs thew war for at least 6 months if not a year unless Russia surrenders which they can’t do because of themselves and the rest of the world.
The New Atlas calls this operation a “strategic blunder”:
“Kharkov Offensive 2.0: Winning Headlines Today, Hastening Defeat for Tomorrow”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3zNxBahukU
This is all based on information that are no longer right because the situation became worse since.
Voenkor Kitten Z
The Ministry of Defense finally broke the silence on the Izyum-Balakliya direction:
1) To achieve the goals of the NMD, a decision was made to regroup troops in the Balakleya and Izyum regions to build up efforts in the Donetsk direction;
2) An operation was carried out to curtail and transfer the Izyum-Balakliya group of troops to the territory of the DPR;
3) A number of distraction and demonstration activities were carried out with the designation of the real actions of the troops;
4) Destroyed more than two thousand militants and mercenaries.
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So while knowing an attack in Balakleya and Izyum area was imminent they decided to regroup and leave that area practically undefended – OK
Where did they destroy more than two thousand militants and mercenaries?
There are huge loses in the Ukrainian army but that wont stop them because they apparently don’t care but the loses are real.
Yes I read somewhere that the Ukrainian army lost some 5000 men first day + 2500 men second day. If true that is big losses but just asking that 2000 figures mentioned by MoD is that for today?
Russian Mod is very conservative with numbers
@Avirgo: “Russian Mod is very conservative with numbers”
It would be very interesting for true military historians to compare later how reliable the claims of RF MoD were to real Ukrainian losses. So far I have found not a single case in military history were enemy losses have been bigger than the opposite forces has claimed. Most likely claims have been 50- 300% bigger than real losses.
I have to say I trust not at all e.g “leaked Ukrainian document” with 1.8 more killed than wounded Ukie soldiers. These kind of foolish “data” despise facts luring fools who have no idea how much more there are WIA compared to KIA + DOW ( killed in action + died on wounds).
That small chapter of War in Ukraine is revealing how easily people are believing in stories backing their own illusions.
Look up the casualty rates in vietnam, korean war, Iraq, and afghanistan. You will see U.S lying about its losses with “contractors,” “Suicide,” Missing in action. U.S still can’t get its death #s right for Korea and Vietnam. Same for Israel’s losses in its wars.
Historically accurate body counts with battlefield control. There are estimates, but most kiling by russians are by artillery, and Ukraine has a record of hiding losses, and cremating bodies.
Fact: AFU doesn’t collect their dead.
Their death count is not revealed until Russia reveals it. If Russia says “200 Ukronazi’s dead,” it’s probably more like 2,000.
Natoistan and it’s gullible entourage are caught in their own blood bath. Which no amount of “pro nazi” propoganda can outspin.
Mikael H.
Thanks for posting that, as at least a half dozen YT commenters have posited that an offensive against the Izium Bridgehead was imminent over the past few weeks. So, the Russian MoD is essentially saying, we knew it was coming …obviously, how could they not given the recon, signals intel and human FSB sources they have. So, they let the Ukes have the Izium Bridgehead, as they did when they withdrew from the Kiev & Kharkov outskirts. (giving full benefit of the doubt to the MoD (for now))
If that is true, then the Russians must be up to something that will make this withdrawal worth it ??? I guess we all have to just “trust the plan” at this point and wait and see. (sigh)
This is such a bad statement that the MoD ought to be shamed for its awful PR job.
This is mostly a PR loss then anything else.
Possibility: the Russian leaders spent so long building their expertise, and being surrounded by experts, they inadvertently vastly overestimate the average persons’ knowledge of the subject. So they give a terse public announcement in the expectation the average person will be able to complete the picture with that information and come to a conclusion. Sort of like what this XKCD comic lampoons: https://xkcd.com/2501/
And another possibility is that the machine needs “three days to flush the toilet”. :)
Here’s my layman’s take on what’s happening here:
The Russians know that the Ukro-nazis are being used as pure cannon fodder – completely suicidal death squads that will see ten Ukrainian soldiers killed just to kill one Russian.
This makes it a different sort of war. The Russians have zero desire to go “man-to-man” against these suicide squads because they cannot afford those kind of losses without a broader mobilization of Russian troops, drafting civilians, etc. They obviously do not want to do this and do not want to get pinned down like that (while NATO obviously does want to force Russia to be pinned down like that).
Therefore, they will pull back as much as necessary to keep hitting the Ukro-Nazis with long range weapons and airstrikes. The Russians don’t care about the dirt, or care about keeping this or that village, except where it matters strategically.
It all comes down the maxim that NATO will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.
So the real angle here is just how brainwashed and stupid is the average Ukrainian who is being shipped off to the front to die as cannon-fodder? Answer that, and you answer how long this war will last.
This will be a long attritional war. Ukrainians casualties are very high and will not be replaced. The recent Ukrainian offensive had substantial numbers of nato mercenaries funded by the u.s state department. Mercs may be paid 20,000+ a month. The offensive also had substantial numbers of women.
All the concern trolling i see here, makes me think that these people are living in early ww2 Soviets times, where russians would just hold the line and get surrounded. Russia was retreated, yes but army losses are minimal to non existant. Ukrainians force casualties are high, many thousands. The territorial changes are not decisive in the overall war. The Ukrainian have won a propaganda victory, but they have always planned to “win” one way, the western elites are famous for the lying skills and paint it as such anyway.
The lines in kharkiv are thin both ways, but the distance to russian borders are short and russia can reorganize a counter attack at its leisure.
But Izyum does matter strategically quite a lot:
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/ukraine-counterattacks
Without Izyum, no move on Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. All this talk about Russia not caring
about this or that piece of dirt does not take into account that not all pieces of dirt are created equal.
Not only that, the approach of falling back to create a kill zone for the Ukrainians bears the risk of demoralizing a population that is witnessing refugees from these lands streaming in. Preventing the emptying of Russian lands is precisely what the SMO is
meant to achieve. If, just if, someone has made the math that shows that Ukraine will bleed dry over time,
facilitating that these lands can be taken back, then it would be nice to see that math. We hear that substantial
numbers of women are taking part in the counter-offensive, so that might indicate that Ukraine is indeed
bleeding dry, but that’s still very vague. Then the real question is to what extent Ukrainian losses are taking
place among more well-trained tier of it’s two-tier military. And what is really going on is a three-tier military
having been formed – Ukrainian cannon fodder, Ukrainian regulars, NATO units in Ukrainian uniform, all under
direct NATO command. Neither Ukraine nor NATO care about the first tier, at all.
The article that is linked to above claims that attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure are required. It’s to neutralize
the stratagem, to force the manpower out. Those newfound NATO tactics presently employed exploit the Russian averseness to taking losses, a direct consequence of how fundamentally Russian society has changed since the times of Stalin. Attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure must be wide-ranging to have any effect, it would mean a declaration of war and following through on it.
In war, it’s usually the more ruthless side that wins. It’s obvious which side is presently the more ruthless one in the the war that’s ongoing.
Sometime during March or April 2022, I concluded that “they” will be slugging this out for the next 10 years.
During Saturday, the situation in easter Ukraine is getting even more volatile. I won’t say “bad for Russians” because the entire thing is actually undergoing a phase shift. It might be best to give up the mindset of “our guys are winning/losing” if you have it because it won’t really make sense until everything calms down, in 2032.
About an hour ago, news hit that “Russian Ministry of Defense now states that Russian military grouping withdraw from Izyum-Balakliya direction to reenforce Donetsk direction”. And thinking people start turning their brain-gears. Obviously, this could be a lie, offering copium to people. Maybe they aren’t withdrawing but are being pushed out. But I’m not there, there are no reporters that I know of east of Chkalovske-Balakliia and there are no videos of dead Russian soldiers, like there were videos of dead Ukrainian soldiers in spring. So for all I know, Russians really are executing an orderly withdrawal.
But if they are, and MoD is saying this, what does that imply, does the statement make sense? I don’t think giving up all this teritory would shorten the frontline – when I look at the map it doesn’t seem to shorten it, so it makes no sense that the withdrawal is done to improve the situation in Kharkiv Oblast. So the MoD isn’t saying “we’ll improve the situation”.
Okay, so what IS the MoD saying? What interpretation makes sense? Well, it could be that they gave on up Izyum and the entire area around it. Okay. But then were is the new line, and why? I think I can make it work by returning to the basics: RF is helping Lugansk and Donetsk, and its goals are demilitarization and denacification. Demilitarization means destroying everything Ukraine throws at it, mostly by using artillery. *Like they did in Kherson.* And when I look at the map, I actually see a nice Kherson-like killing ground between the lines Kupiansk-Sviatohirsk on the west and Nyzhnia Duvanka-Kreminna on the east. There is also potential for the ground west of Kupiansk-Sviatohirsk. So you could make a prediction that Ukrainians will take all the ground up to Nyzhnia Duvanka-Kreminna!!! This thesis is strengthened by the southern border of this killing ground: there is a thick forest on the line Sviatohirsk-Liman-Kreminna. Supposedly, Ukrainians already emerged to the north of Liman, so this southern border is definitively unstable.
It’s possible Russians want to replicate the success in Kherson in this “killing ground” I found, and IF they do, Ukrainians will take ANOTHER 40km over the next 3 days!
Yet the new Russian line may not even end there. First, because the southern flank of it is still buried in the forest, but also because it doesn’t have a nearby rail line. So maybe the Russians will want to move their forces all the way to the line Troitske-Schastia!!! That’s the forward movement of 160km for Ukrainians!!! It means giving up Lysychansk! \o/ The benefits of this line would be: that it has a rail connection, its southern flank is not buried in a forest, and in front of it lies 40km of flat open terrain where the Ukrainians can’t hide. So the Russians will be able to demilitarize them if they’re stupid enough to attack Russians.
My main point here is that the situation is overly volatile, and there are really good reasons to expect COMPLETELY wild developments over the next week.
As for the week ending, important bits can be summed up as: 1. Ukrainians managed to get a mechanized division right under Russian noses, 2. this division chased out Russian forces consisting of 40 year old guys without serious hardware, 3. NATO made a decision to send so much materiel to Ukraine in the future that it is going to reduce its own capability!! (I might be wrong on point 3, there isn’t a lot of information in circulation.) Point 3 is very important – NATO is really doubling down on Ukraine. My expectation is that NATO expects Ukraine to be Soviet Afganistan 2.0 for Russia.
Additional point: USA DoD made the decision this week to increase artillery shell production from ~15k/month to ~35k/month, over a period of three years.
So this really isn’t over yet, and won’t be until either the West or East cracks. Which is going to take a decade. FML :/
1. It will not be an Afghanistan, totally different environments. Here this is more steppe warfare, armies need high mobility. Russian withdrawal was correct to minimize casualties.
2. Ukrainians were not highly mechanized. Many are on foot and using light vehicles with civilian vehicles.
3. This offensive is lead by mercenaries, which is very expensive over time and not the easiest to replace.
4. Russia MOD will attack elsewhere.
“USA DoD made the decision this week to increase artillery shell production from ~15k/month to ~35k/month”
That is not impressive as RF use that many, some reports up to 60K, shells in one day.
Petrof & Boshirov estão cuidando disso…
Muita farinha de milho ao invés de enxofre…
Petrof & Boshirov are taking care of it…
Lots of cornmeal instead of sulfur…
The news received from today is arguably the worst since the beginning of the war. It took more than a month to capture Izyum and we all know how important the city is for operations in the Donbas and today it’s becoming apparent the city is lost, along with most of the Kharkov oblast.
I can only say I admire the Russian and allied troops who fight valiantly while badly outnumbered but there’s only so much one can do. The failure we’re witnessing here can only be blamed on the politicians and their whole ‘strategy’ from the beginning of the operation.
With the so called UN General Assembly coming up this week the NATO induced PR of “Ukrainian victory” will definitely turn the UN into an amphitheatre, nothing short of a Broadway play. How low can these Western sociopaths can go.
This statement is ridiculous.and idiotic So this is disaster
OK, they have to make reserve defense lines to wait and stop Ukros there
Obviously Russians cannot continue with this small number of manpower.
They have to send more soldiers
Military Chronicle Latest:
09/10/2022 BREAKING NEWS: APU occupied only the northern outskirts of Izyum. Map of hostilities for the evening: Kupyansk, Balakleya, Svatovo (15 videos)
The situation in the Kharkiv direction as of 17.00 September 10, 2022.
At the moment, the situation in the north-east of the Kharkiv region continues to deteriorate. Against the backdrop of the withdrawal of units of the RF Armed Forces, mobile tactical groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine almost unhindered reached Bolshoy Burluk (40 km to the north).
From the Pechenezh reservoir, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to move north to Khotomli . DRGs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine calmly wandered along the other side at the beginning of summer, until the RF Armed Forces cleared the surrounding forests. Against the background of the withdrawal of troops, sending a detachment on duty to raise the flag is not so difficult.
In Izyum , separate units of the 60th OMSB “Veterans” hold the defense . The situation to the south of it also remains in question. But at the northern entrance to the city there are already enemy units.
From the area of the village of Suligovka (on the map) for 14 days they claim that two consecutive attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on this settlement. and neighboring settlement Brazhkovka – successfully reflected.
Rybar
🇬🇧🇺🇦 On the need to ensure the safety of residents of the Russian-controlled territories of the Kharkiv region.
Now all attention is riveted directly to the fighting, and rightly so. But in the chaos of the unfolding events, it is important not to forget about those who in such a situation cannot stand up for themselves.
As we were told from the field, civilians in Volchansk and other liberated cities were left to fend for themselves, because the local authorities are confused and do not announce an organized evacuation. Some of the residents are fleeing in panic, fearing the imminent capture of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and subsequent reprisals, while others are waiting for instructions and simply do not know what to do, putting their lives at risk.
Now the civilian structures in the territories under our control, first of all, need to do the following things:
➖Organize an orderly exit of civilians from territories threatened by enemy capture. Warn relatives living in Russia in advance so that they can meet them on the other side of the border.
➖Provide, in cooperation with the military and the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation, with the supply, as well as the accommodation of refugees .
➖Eliminate the possible capture of documentation of departmental structures by the armed forces of the enemy. In other words, take out or destroy documents. It is not fear but common sense
that speaks of this simple necessity : the situation at the front is changing rapidly and such measures must be taken prematurely. While military personnel are doing their duty and trying to level the front line, it is now more important than ever for civilian structures to do their job in a coordinated and precise manner in order to save the lives of people who trusted them. At the current moment, the heavy burden of concern for the civilian population has mainly fallen on the shoulders of volunteers. #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov @rybar * Support us:
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The head of the military-civilian administration of the Kharkiv region, Vitaly Ganchev, recommended that all residents of the region evacuate to save their lives.
According to him, representatives of the administration are working in temporary accommodation centers, who are ready to provide refugees with food, warmth and medicines.
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⚡️🇬🇧🇺🇦The RF Armed Forces launched a counteroffensive on the northern bank of the Ingulets River east of Snigirevka from Kalininsky and Bobrovy Kut .
In Bereznegovatoy , units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine engaged in looting and open the apartments of the population under the pretext of “search for traitors.”
I am not one, who worries about the Russian success of it’s SMO.
Gonzalo Lira outlined this pretty well and just now I saw an article on ZeroHedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/wounded-ukrainian-soldiers-paint-grim-picture-kherson-counteroffensive
Following just the informations of the Russian MoD gives a good picture of the dire situation, that the Ukranian cannon fodder is in.
For the normal Ukie conscripts I feel deeply sorry. The Nazis – let them go to hell
Not going very well, early triumphalism is as bad as defeatism.
Russians apparently withdraw troops from Izyum to avoid encirclement, cauldron.
They had to leave heavy weaponry but they destroyed all of them
How could this happen to them it is big question
OK now, they have to take lesson from this defeat
First they have to send much more man power
More manpower didnt help in Afghanistan and Vietnam, its not a question of manpower but strategy and tactics.
Overall, russia strategy and tactics are effective.
As Russia is retreating in the south east of Karkhov, Kiev is sending troops to punish the ukrainians having collaborate with the russians and that is a major problem, something that may terrify other ukrainians still in the russia controlled area. Russia has underestimated Kiev’s capacity to prevent a military collapse and time is acting to develop among ukrainians, hate feeling againts Russia. This operation has to be transformed in full war to break quickly Kiev’s backbone otherwise, this operation will poisonned the whole world.
You are right. Russia needs to send million soldiers and to finish this
Assuming this is indeed a loss for Russia, if Russia doesn’t respond boldly and overwhelming, I will begin to suspect that this whole Ukraine thing has been Kabuki Theatre and is part of the Great Reset effort.
mymother03
What happened at the Battle of the Bulge was that there where two very capable militarizes going at each other. The Germans lost because they lacked the military force needed to continue the push into allied forces.
My preference here is to compare this Ukrainian offensive maneuver to the Tet offensive in Vietnam. On a military level the offensive was a colossal blunder. They took a lot of losses without a lot of gains. What they proved mainly was that the American occupation of Vietnam (what it really was) had not won over the “hearts and minds” of the population. That caused the US press to flip and in the long run produced a victory for North Vietnam.
I am not predicting a victory here for Ukraine, but otherwise the analogy holds up well. The Ukrainians did the offense to prove they could do it. On that level it is a win already, and if a lot of their own troops end up dead, outsiders to the event won’t care all that much.
The situation does cause me to wonder if the Russian approach to the SMO is correct. Is the slow and steady village by village approach really a good idea? Probably not on a strictly military level. Than again, perhaps they are going slow for reasons that are more political than military. It is a matter of deliberately playing for time. One possible gain is that the war as an ongoing event builds support for an expanded war inside Russia.
Looking at the American side, the weakest link in the alliance is Western Europe. This is because the stupid sanctions policy damages Europe more than any other group. It is the Europeans making a substantial sacrifice for the benefit of what is the American foreign policy. The full burden will hit a few months from now. It will be a people made more poor with super high energy costs, plus a slowing economy. In Germany they are locked into shutting down whole industries.
I used to think poorly of the Italians for not staying with it when they went to war. Maybe they got it right? Perhaps the countries that fight with the least determination get the best outcomes. In the upcoming Italian election, the party that looks to be the winner is anti-immigrant. If they follow through, they well be at odds with the EU already, and it would be a whole lot easier to find a way to get low cost Russian energy products into Italy.
A common weakness in an alliance is separate military forces. The other weakness is a tendency for one of the alliance members to cut a favorable deal with the enemy, undercutting everybody else. If Europe brakes in the current war effort, that is probably how it will happen.
They have great plans now.
“I believe that the American war effort in this conflict should focus on the ‘de-imperialization’ of Russia. It seems to me that we are witnessing the beginning of the demise of the Russian Federation in its current form. We must be prepared for this… We were not prepared for the collapse of the USSR, Hodges wrote on Twitter.”
Ben Hodges, former US commander in Europe.
So now the Russians know what is waiting for them. The question here is are Russians patriot enough to fight back or are they lame and tamed.
If Russia does not win this war it will have grave consequences for stability of Russia
Russia simply must win
If Banderist Ukraine win it would be absolute disaster for entire world
Russia has to declare total war and to finish with this BS
I see that the Ukrainians have pushed the russian forces out of Kharkov (how cute that Grammarly is suggesting ‘Kharkiv’).
Hopping that this is the usual regrouping of forces before the big counter-offensive. Right now, the Russian SMO looks more disorganized than ever, at least in the eyes of the media. This comes as no surprise because the West has been supplying the Ukrainians with ammo and weapons while Russia has been greatly underestimating the scale of the operation.
Declare war already and end this charade.
Thanks Saker for music, great.
I don’t want to make the blog as a juke box, but let me propose Magma (Jazz ala Magma, famous, must):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGsCGvYClY
Concerning Ukraine, I don’t know what to think, I am not a military expert.
My concerns are for civilians trapped in the ”liberated” towns.
From what I heard (Russian TV) a lot where evacuated.
I have a 2 questions to all those who say this is not that bad cause russia will just continue to kill ukrainian soldiers and does not need those villages and cities.
1.
Why take all those villages and cities in the first place and put the civilians there at risk if you do not think they
are worth defending?
2.
Why is Russia in Ukraine? Cause the support many of us here – who are not military fans – to russia is cause
this ukrainian regime is installed to kill russians and russianspeakers. I thought this is the official reason for this
special operation. Cause if this is just the pretext and they do not care how many people are killed then get out of ukraine and offer all those who still like russia a nice house somewhere in russia and some starting capital.
Build a damn wall and shoot anything that you feel like is dangerous to you just like Isreal is doing it.
The US is dedicated to keep ruling the planet. If you are not at least as dedicated to defeat them you wont.
For those who know the Game of Thrones … i keep getting Ned Stark vibes of lack of dedication to win from the Russian side while the others are the Lanisters ready to use any dirty trick in the book and masters of bribe and murder…
“If you play the game of thrones you either win or you die.”
1. getting encircled is not a strategy. Russia is actively evacuating civilians.
2. Russia has created states that are pro-russia, instead of anti russian. Russia would like good relations with civilians in ukraine, so it is not bombing it like U.S in Iraq and Afghanistan. U.S is already losing badly in many parts of the world. It is not Russia alone that is at war with the U.S, but bad decisions by the U.S and the west that is causing it to lose.
Voenkor Kitten Z
Military expert Boris Rozhin on the progress of the special military operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine on 20.18 Moscow time on 10.09.2022, specially for the channel Voenkor Kotenok Z @voenkorKotenok :
1. The enemy announced the capture of Balakleya. There is no information about the fighting around the city.
2. The enemy also announced the capture of the western part of Kupyansk . DRGs are already operating on the other side.
3.Even according to the statements of the enemy, he has not yet entered Izyum . In the morning and afternoon there were still battles. Part of the forces of the RF Armed Forces began to retreat to Oskol at night. The situation in the areas south and west of Izyum is not clear.
4. After the occupation of the western part of Kupyansk , as well as Shevchenkovothe enemy has thrown groups of DRGs and light infantry to the north, which are advancing towards Veliky Burluk , taking advantage of the absence of a continuous front line.
5. Volchansk is being evacuated. There is conflicting information about whether the city will be held.
6. Svatovo – under the complete control of the LPR, no one approached him. During the day there was no particular panic.
7. Krasny Liman and Yampol. By evening, they were held by our troops, who repelled several enemy attacks. The enemy’s plan to rapidly reach Oskol from the south within one light period failed.
8. In the light of the official withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the Kharkiv regionit is still difficult to say where the line of deployment of the withdrawn troops, as outlined by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, is located.
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LPR Ambassador to the Russian Federation Rodion Miroshnik: the entire territory of the Republic, including Severodonetsk, Lisichansk, Starobelskoye, Svatovo , is controlled by the forces of the LPR and Russia, rumors about the entry of Ukrainian troops into the territory of the LPR are not true.
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‼️🇬🇧Report from the front:
▪️On the 4th day of the enemy’s counteroffensive, units of the Russian army escaped encirclement in Izyum and retreated to the line of defense along the left bank of the Oskol River.
▪️The enemy suffered losses while trying to storm the Red Estuary
▪️The enemy entered Kupyansk and occupied the eastern part of the city, the RF Armed Forces took up defensive positions in the eastern part on the left bank of the river and in the industrial zone. Large reserves helped slow down the enemy advance and stabilize the front, E. Poddubny reports.
t.me/btr80/1719
Ukraine is coming
“All residents of the Kharkov region are recommended to evacuate to save their lives,” Vitaly Ganchev, head of the Regional State Administration, told compatriots.
https://t.me/denazi_UA/20764
It is worth mentioning that Kharkov alone has about 1.4 million inhabitants.
Whatever the concrete reasons for the Russian withdrawal from the Kharkov region (military, diplomatic or both), the war in Ukraine will not end.
On the contrary it will escalate, albeit not immediately, just as the Minsk Accords (2014/2015) only procrastinated the inexorable.
Imperium will not give up colonizing Russia, reducing it to a neocolonial status.
Exactly as it did with Brazil after the 2016 coup d’état. This is followed by a Bolsonaro government that is proud togive militar salute the US flag and to US sub-authorities on Brazilian soil.
The war will not only continue but is bound to escalate to the nuclear level, through whatever scenario.
Imperium can only be defeated by being confronted with its immediate, total and final destruction. There will be no other alternative. Abandon all illusions.
It’s coming. Be ready.
《First of all, you must carry out the first attack against the command and control system. Then make an attack against the strategic facilities.》
Putin – “The Putin Interviews”, Oliver Stone – 2017 – page 114 of the Brazilian edition
This today from the editor and director of RUSSTRAT, the virtually “official” news outlet of the foreign policy of Russia.
“MOSCOW, September 9, 2022, RUSSTRAT Institute.
Just a few days ago, attention was focused on the Kherson region, now-on Kupyansk and Izyum. However, we must understand that we are not talking about any local events. The nature of the war has changed. Since the end of August, the fighting in Ukraine has taken on a qualitatively new character. The United States and NATO have finally dropped their masks and are no longer hiding behind Ukrainian formations. The APU turned into a robot avatar controlled by a NATO operator, who not only sets combat tasks, but also directs their implementation in real time. Moreover, there is an upward escalation of armed actions against Russia.
All these factors require a radical rethink of the situation and a change of strategy. And not only for the Russian armed forces. Now we are talking about protecting our citizens on the territory of the Russian Federation, protecting the national sovereignty of the country.”
I would also add this for further information for those who it seems still dont grasp what Saker has been saying here. It’s Brian Berletic of the The New Atlas who gives very succinct, clear and understandable explanations of the situation in Ukraine. An ex-Marine, with experience in innovative engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3zNxBahukU
As he points out it’s a big mistake to try to make any sort of estimate and people talking of “feeling ashamed’ of Russian actions; Russia thinks and acts long term, not just for todays headlines. If you are still baffled by what happened, and the likely reasoning Russia was using, you could do worse than add his voice to Saker, to make it clear.
However, for the first time I have seen, Elena Panina of Russtrat has spelt out what we knew but no-one wanted to say, that NATO and US are behind the Ukraine Incident – and now they are coming out into the light.
O que significa……… “Forças reagrupadas em Balakleya, Izyum, redistribuídas para DPR, diz Ministério da Defesa russo Segundo o porta-voz do Ministério da Defesa russo, para o efeito, uma operação de reorganização e redistribuição do agrupamento Izyum-Balakleya para a República Popular de Donetsk
Machine Translation: What it means……… “forces regrouped in Balakleya, Izyum, redeployed to DPR, says Russian Defense Ministry according to the spokesman of the Russian Defense Ministry, for this purpose, an operation of reorganization and redistribution of the grouping Izyum-Balakleya to the Donetsk People’s Republic
From Russian Telegram:
> The need to “relocate” large contingents of troops by curtailing entire axes again raises the question of the insufficient size of the grouping in the entire theater of operations as a whole. From February to September, they tried to solve this issue by strengthening recruitment for contract service, mobilization in the DPR and LPR, recruitment into PMCs, the formation of BARS, the 3rd Corps, etc. However, six months later, the problem still exists and has the most serious impact on the course of operations.
I’m a little confused by the panic. The only war NATO can win is the propaganda war and more and more people in the West are seeing through the BS. They realise they have a big problem that is only going to get worse as the economic disaster unfolding in the West accelerates and more people wake up to what is going on. It’s that desperate for them they are now including propaganda pieces directly into soap operas like Coronation Street where they mock the ‘conspiracy theorists’ out there who think the West is run by a cabal. They even included a reference to the faked moon landings. I’m enjoying this apocalypse. It’s hilarious stuff.
“I’m a little confused by the panic. The only war NATO can win is the propaganda war”
NATO has been expanding to Russia’s borders. NATO/U.S. has destroyed country after country and got its way: Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq in recent decades. Russia only salvaged a few areas around its borders or where it had naval bases: South Ossetia, Crimea, part of Syria
Agree. They’ve got the propaganda war, through a partisan media, down to a fine art.
The kind of “art” a child paints on the wall when the shorts are full.
I wasn’t following closely the slow, but until recently, steady progress, because I knew this approach by Putin, of very slow and incremental action, aka. “SMO”, let a wide margin open for the “west” (NATO/USA) to stir shit in many different ways.
It seems they found a way to do just that, using kamikaze tactics to inflict considerable pain to the Russians.
The west is not acting rationally (the sanctions and economic damage to the EU is proof of that), much less the ukrainians.
And this SMO shit is all about counting on Russia’s enemies to behave rationally, which is becoming clearer by the day that they won’t.
It doesn’t matter that the KIA ratio is 20:1 or 50:1. Any tactical analysis is pointless. The ukies doesn’t need to sustain this indefinitely either. They only need to do this long enough to create a internal political problem for Russia, which they may be very close to achieving.
We will see how bad it really is, but when I see very pro-kremlin sources, that usually always say that Putin is playing 5D chess and all is a plan etc… NOT saying those things this time, it is an indicative that a epic fuckup may have happened.
If so, either Putin will double down on it’s current patch risking its own chair in the process, or there will be a sizeable escalation this time around.
The rumor that there is a huge amount of retired? NATO soldiers mixed with the Ukrainians, if true….
40 % of Academy pmc in fact, lot are kia/wia now.
This shows immediately the difference between the full ukrop Kerson(failure) offensive and this one( ++).
De facto ‘nato’.
In my previous comment I showed optimism about the positive outcome of the SMO for the Russians.
I draw this optimism in part from a lecture of the American military specialist Dr. Phillip Karber (president of the Potomac Foundation) who gave a lecture in front of West Point cadets in 2017 on the topic of “The Russian Way of War”.
Of course the lecture is heavily tainted and biased ( good guy versus bad guy – guess, who is who).
But in the below linked YouTube video things become really interesting approximately from mininute 23:00 on. Listen to him…
He speaks about the superiority of Russian weapon systems over those of the West (namely USA).
The link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CMby_WPjk4
Anyone genuinely concerned about the greatness of Russia is not happy by any of this sloppy preparation and execution.
I am not about the show of force just for the sake of it but does seem to be appropriate at this time. Having read the Russian Military version of recent events a lot does not add up. Its very fishy and maybe some dont seem to be doing the jobs they should be doing. The Empire of Lies are experts at all nefarious tactics and will use all means necessary to get their evil way. They will and can infiltrate and subvert absolutely anything. People do not matter to them.
Latest From Military Chronicle:
09/11/2022 LATEST NEWS from Ukraine: The Armed Forces of Ukraine ran into Russian troops. Kupyansk, Balakleya, Lyman, Izyum – Map of hostilities today (17 videos)
The enemy continues to develop the offensive, now the mobile groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving towards the border of Russia – to the north of the Kharkov region. Despite the impressive pace of advancement, there are very few videos of downed or destroyed Russian equipment (literally a few) and few prisoners of the RF Armed Forces. The situation is even directly reversed – there were more broken vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The enemy announced the capture of Balakleya in the evening . There is no information about the fighting around the city. The enemy also announced the capture of the western part of Kupyansk . On the other side, the DRG is already operating.
Even according to the statements of the enemy, he has not yet entered Izyum . In the morning and afternoon there were still battles. Part of the forces of the RF Armed Forces began to retreat to Oskol at night. The situation in the areas south and west of Izyum is not clear. Continued in the material.
https://voenhronika.ru/
Operation Z: Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring
Report from the front:
▪️On the 4th day of the enemy’s counteroffensive, units of the Russian army escaped encirclement in Izyum and retreated to the line of defense along the left bank of the Oskol River.
▪️The enemy suffered losses while trying to storm the Red Estuary
▪️The enemy entered Kupyansk and occupied the eastern part of the city, the RF Armed Forces took up defensive positions in the eastern part on the left bank of the river and in the industrial zone. Large reserves helped slow down the enemy advance and stabilize the front, E. Poddubny reports.
▪️After the withdrawal from Izyum, Russian troops continue fierce battles on reserve defense lines in the area.
▪️Approached reserves from the “O” group stopped the enemy’s breakthrough in Kupyansk, holding the eastern part d slow down the enemy advance and stabilize the front, E. Poddubny reports.
t.me/btr80/1719and the industrial zone of the city.
▪️The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to try to develop the offensive.
▪️Attempts to storm the Krasny Liman are continuing, the reservists of the LPR and Barca are holding the city and the surrounding area.
▪️All day long, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been attacking the border near the villages of Disputed, Verkhnekamenka, Zolotarevka, trying to reach Lisichansk.
▪️From n.p. Savintsy left the Russian troops, now he is occupied by the enemy.
▪️It continues to deliver massive artillery and air strikes against the advancing enemy.
▪️It is reported about the crimes and looting of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the settlements left by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
▪️The RF Armed Forces continue to supply reserves to the Kharkov direction.
🔞🏴☠️Ours destroyed the advancing forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region
As reported, in the course of only one battle, the enemy lost 2 tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles and a group of their militants, reports ptsr_team .
The enemy made one after another attempt to storm the positions of Russian volunteers with several armored groups, but all attacks were repelled with losses for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
t.me/RVvoenkor
If bemused by the many “armchair” warriors and critics who seem to think Russia made a terrible mistake, got “caught short”, dont know what they are doing, etc etc, it has to be remembered that there are out there, sites which managed to promote themselves as being on the side of the angels who are peddling this sort of thing.
A good example is Alexander Mercuris of The Duran.
This report sounds like something straight out of Kiev and the CNN. He says , in effect, that :
“* Russia has thrown the weight of fighting on the backs of untrained, inexperienced, Donbass militia,
* Putin and Shoigue took their eye off the ball, i.e. lost concentration on what was happening, [probably because they went off for a few drinks, I suppose, although he did suggest it was because of the exercises in the Far East., ], and
*they had no idea of the true strength of either the Ukro defence or the Donbass militia.
In other words, Putin and Shoigue are a pair of idiots who cant fight a war. I never heard anything more stupid or biased in my life. I’ve not had much of an opinion of either for a long time, but this is very bad, leading one to wonder just who is paying them. But with so many thinking they are knowledgeable and supporters of right, it is no wonder so many just cant grasp what is really happening there.
And now you know why I stopped paying attention to Mercouris and the Duran :-)
Dear Saker and comrade commentators,
as I am not a military strategist (nor do I have a military education), I can only try to be logical in what is happening in the Kharkov front: latest statement by the Russian MoD that the RF is being withdrawn from Balakleya – Izyum front to Donbas to achieve the goal of SMO is not in line with at least next:
– the main goal of disarmament and denazification of Ukraine – how to do it if you’re stalled with offensive operations for 2 months and let such a breach and collapse of defense lines in only less than 3 days
– protection of civilians and civilian infrastructure – how to achieve this if no organized retreat of civilians was conducted and ukie artillery left to destroy “liberated” lands and towns instead actively suppressed by own artillery
– it took months of heavy fighting (and serious casualties) to liberate Izyum and Balakleya and now this whole area is proclaimed non strategic and left in just 3 days???
– if true that most of heavy equipment is left (supplies for sure couldn’t be taken out so quickly), than this is for sure not an organized retreat, but something totaly different
– most probably dubious numbers of destroyed Ukrainian military hardware/industry and command centers and manpower coming from daily briefings of Russian MoD
If Russia is really fighting the combined west for the survival than its economy should be a war one and people conscripted/mobilized for civic and military duties and not living like nothing is going on…
Something looks really wrong with intelligence data acquisition, analyzing this data and using the analyzes for at east tactical and operational if not strategic planning (not to even try to think about some hi tech netcentric talk we are listening from supposed experts). As ukie offensive is not only a tactical one, but already achieving operational success. And if they succeed operationally in the Kharkov front – by the end of this weekend as Saker explained, even with huge loses, than they can throw in few more thousand forces on other fronts (they prepared concentrations of forces in different areas) and try few different operational initiatives that can lead into strategic turning point… Either it is incompetence in high ranks or betrayal in those same high ranks of RF. Or is high military command not in line with VVP and want to force a different approach to this war. As this is a war and it has to be fought like one, especially if it is an existential one.
I want Russia to win. First in brotherly Ukraine and bring back those mostly manipulated and used people to Russian world and than to also change the security status in Europe – to defeat OTAN or/and make it useless. To help Europe really come back to its roots we all praised not so long time ago… But it is not going in the right direction. Combined west is producing, supplying and spending resources. And they have far more resources than Russia. If we want to take this to middle/long term, even crippled western economies can win with sheer quantity vs quality…
Regarding western weapons they don’t look inferior to Russian ones, they look on pair for me. It even looks that they are easy to operate or there are a lot of OTAN soldiers already fighting in ukie ranks… Russia is batter in rocketry and air defense, probably in training troops generally, but this didn’t bring any real advantage so far. It is steel quantity and good enough quality that is fighting most probably still better quality.
Something has to be changed dramatically in order to win the battle in Ukraine, so more to win against the combined west. And China doesn’t seem to be a reliable (partner) there. She acts more like a war profiteer and counting their profit on expenses of all others, especially of Russia.
I hope I am terribly wrong and there is some more complexity that I simply cannot understand. But after more than 6 months of this so called SMO it doesn’t look like. And I am not following any western or ukie news, only independent and Russian ones…
Saker thanks for your excellent work that lightens hopes in all us. I will continue to be a beliver in victory even when things do not look promising.
All the best to all of you.
Quote – ”First in brotherly Ukraine and bring back those mostly manipulated and used people to Russian world and than to also change the security status in Europe – to defeat OTAN or/and make it useless.”
There is no such thing as ‘brotherly Ukraine” anymore, will never come back
”Changing security status in Europe”: will not happen, except after a real war (with massive losses of infras, people, economy, military) and a total defeat of Nato, this can only be after a nuclear war, but both Europe and Russia will not exist anymore.
Problem is (and since 2014 Maidan, Odessa): lack of RU credibility, or worse when there is RU credibility(believe me Western politicos were really afraid in the first weeks, no massive weapons like himars, talk of sending ‘defensive’ weaponery no more, money but very little).
They turned 180 degrees after the Kiev ‘feint fiasco’..they started to believe it was ‘doable’, if not a full victory at least a limited one for Russia, wich weaken her.
No retaliation policy courtesy of Moscow: from false flags, to daily bombing and killing of Donetsk, attacks on Crimea, even inside Russia, murder(terrorist attack) on Dugina, they know there is zero risk, though neocons + britons double down and down..
They already have zero risk on their own soil, as two islands US/UK (yes US is an island, a big one), they are far and know Putin is moderate, will never use nukes or conventional strikes on their assets (even assets out of their mainland, like military bases).All the sarmat, poseidon, hypersonic things are just MAD items, but of no or very little use(hyper).
It was the same in Syria when they killed 250 wagner trying to take the oil fields back. They killed regular RU military, diplomats, musicians, humanitarian, doctors etc…zero retaliation
How do you want to be respected by never responding to any attack?
They will only slow down after they lose ‘assets’ being military and or infra.They only respect FORCE.
They must be scared again by RU, scared to death, otherwise, there will be more disasters like during the last three days.
European leaders are not going to change their attitude, even if they are forced to destroy their economy for years.
Whistleblower in France today, said that Macron was blackmailed by merika: ‘follow us, or we will sanctions your banks as a starter’ etc…if Macron is under such a blackmail all the other are(not even necessary for POL+3B).
Official NATO war targets are, if regime change not possible: Odessa and even Crimea.
The rest they don’t care. And for the stealing of Russia assets(oil, gas, metals…), they know that one day Putin will go (for whatever reason), and they hope for a new Eltsin to appear à la Guiado.
Forget India and China, they do almost nothing, they are even weaker than Russia, they will capitulate and switch side, we will see that with the gas and oil cap coming soon (12/05), otherwise secondary sanctions will strike them. Russia is alone( Serbia is small, they will do regime change there is needed eventhough Vucic is an almost EU asset).Turkey is after all Nato, they can regime change Erdogan.
404 is now, simply a big ‘al quaeda ISIS’ state’ with same tactics: terrorism
You must act with terrorist the hard way only.
@Natoistan
“They already have zero risk on their own soil, as two islands US/UK (yes US is an island, a big one), they are far and know Putin is moderate, will never use nukes or conventional strikes on their assets (even assets out of their mainland, like military bases).All the sarmat, poseidon, hypersonic things are just MAD items, but of no or very little use(hyper).”
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is all you need to know about how things will play out. Ever since WW1, these two countries have seen zero retaliation for the horrible things they have done to this world.
Not economic, not political and surely not any military retaliation. Until someone hurts them badly, and by that I mean rough them up good, this horror in Europe and elsewhere will never end.
Oh, I will also add to this otherwise very soberning comment that they will either regime change Viktor Orban, murder him or at the very least, kick Hungary out of the EU.
It is 09/10 and these are the latest…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ajCgT61gA
“It was a giant trap for c. 25,000 Ukrainian troops. Russians pulled back as fast as they possibly could to allow Ukrainian army into fairly narrow invasion channels. Russians allowed the troops and equipment in as far as they wanted to go. Then the Russians started bombing all the resupply routes, that has been ongoing for the past 24 hours or so.”
But if I read the the map correctly there is no narrow invasion channel but a straight line since Russia withdrew so Ukraine won, at least for now.
Não entendo tanta polêmica por causa do recuo russo nessa situação.
Qualquer um com metade do cérebro e quociente de inteligência pouco acima da temperatura ambiente pode entender a correlação de forças envolvidas.
Na minha humilde opinião de sofá, será outro bolsão e muita carnificina Ukie desmilitarizada/desnazificada até daqui sete dias.
Sei que há poucos registros sobre a Guerra do Paraguai (onde Brasil e Argentina mataram 2/3 da população paraguaia).
Alguns anos atrás, arqueólogos encontraram restos de uma trincheira paraguaia no meio do Estado do Mato Grosso do Sul no Brasil.
O Paraguai seria a Ucrânia e Brasil e Argentina seriam os aliados atuais, guardadas as devidas proporções…
Houve um avanço mas, depois, aconteceu o que relatei acima (uma vergonha dignamente debaixo do tapete da História latino-americana).
Outra coisa, mulheres, mulheres mortas na linha de frente ucranianas, sinal que a bucha de canhão está exaurindo, nem os alemães na WW2 fizeram isso.
Se a coisa continuar assim, veremos adolescentes exatamente como ocorreu no passado.
Outra coisa, há um rumor na Rede sobre o que está para acontecer entre 15 e 20 de setembro, mais precisamente, 15.
Vários questionamentos e, ninguém sabe de onde surgiu esse boato.
Não sei se interessa a vocês mas, vou contar.
Ontem, uma senhora que é minha aluna numa classe de aceleração no período noturno trouxe a filha que mora a vinte anos em Portugal, é casada com um português que ficou lá e, a neta com cinco anos de idade.
O que estamos estudando em Geografia é Geopolítica.
Essa senhora que é minha aluna fez questão de trazer essa filha para assistir minha aula e, saiu com muitas informações, que condizem com o que ela e o marido estão percebendo na Europa, provavelmente o marido virá para o Brasil em janeiro (talvez antes) para residir definitivamente aqui.
Foi uma aula muito proveitosa e, graças às informações que leio no Saker, Aftershok, ZeroHedge, MoonOfAlabama dentre outros. Muitos outros… :-)
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I don’t understand so much controversy because of the Russian retreat in this situation.
Anyone with half a brain and an intelligence quotient just above room temperature can understand the correlation of forces involved.
In my humble couch opinion, it will be another pocket and lots of demilitarized/denazified Ukie carnage by seven days from now.
I know that there are few records about the Paraguayan War (where Brazil and Argentina killed 2/3 of the Paraguayan population).
A few years ago, archaeologists found remains of a Paraguayan trench in the middle of the state of Mato Grosso do Sul in Brazil.
Paraguay would be Ukraine and Brazil and Argentina would be the current allies, keeping due proportions…
There was an advance, but then what I reported above happened (a shame worthy under the rug of Latin American history).
Another thing, women, dead women on the Ukrainian front lines, a sign that the cannon fodder is running out, not even the Germans in WW2 did that.
If things continue like this, we will see teenagers exactly as they did in the past.
Another thing, there is a rumor on the Net about what is to happen between the 15th and 20th of September, more precisely, the 15th.
Several questions and, no one knows where this rumor came from.
I don’t know if you’re interested, but I’ll tell you.
Yesterday, a lady who is a student of mine in an acceleration class at night brought her daughter who has lived in Portugal for twenty years, is married to a Portuguese who stayed there and her granddaughter is five years old.
What we are studying in Geography is Geopolitics.
This lady who is my student insisted on bringing her daughter to attend my class and she came out with a lot of information, which is in line with what she and her husband are realizing in Europe, her husband will probably come to Brazil in January (maybe sooner) to reside permanently here.
It was a very useful class and, thanks to the information I read on Saker among others. Many others… :-)
To what extent is the sudden change in the nature of the war in Ukraine attributable to a new Head of State in the Uk and the simultaneous accession of a new rabidly warmongering, Russophobic Prime Minister?
I cannot help feeling that these changes are dangerous for the future of the UK.
A couple of comments on the current situation.
Women in war, in my personal experience, are capable of such courage, that many a times can make men look like cowards.
I posted earlier a statement from another woman, director of “The Institute for International Political and Economic Strategies,” RUSSTRAT, that illustrates the courage with which Russian women are facing up to the current crisis.
Here is another Russian woman, from the frontlines at Kherson, delivering a timely message reminding us of the Russian spirit needed to defeat the current nazis, as Russians did with the German nazis.
Yes, there is an ongoing situation about which to be concerned, however, emotional sobriety in war is the only trait that would take you through the cyclical ups and downs.
Truth in times of crisis lie in between those who yell and scream “Defeat!,” and those who live in denial. The alarmists who throw their arms or cover their heads with their hands, have no understanding of what it takes to win a war. They live in la-la-land, having a linear vision of how the war has to unfold, to their liking.
The deniers or apologists live in a different la-la-land, always denying there is a problem, “No, the town was not taken,” even though pictures of the Ukronazis are plastered all over the net with their flag in front of city hall. Ukronazis took 800 sq kms in 5 days? Nothing to worry about, that’s the Russian Way of War.
In between those two absurd, illogical, delusional positions, is the statement of the Russian sister below, and the one I posted before, calling us all for the spirit that defeated the German nazis, ardent hearts and cool heads.
The Soviet Union’s Great Patriotic War was not won by denying mistakes, but by learning from them and surmounting them. Ukraine’s current war theater is but a fraction of the challenges faced by the Soviet Union. We don’t have idiots at the helm of Russia. Putin would not allow a defeat to happen, neither would Shoigu, Gerasimov, Lavrov, or the Russian people.
Ukraine will be defeated.
Mark my words.
Not by deniers, apologists, alarmists or defeatists, but by those who, like these Russian women, have the courage to stand up to the challenges with honesty, dignity, and courage.
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https://t.me/war_subtitled_en/625
Would have we won the Great Patriotic War if in 1941-1945 if we had Telegram and mobile phones with video cameras? Very unlikely.
I just imagined minute-by-minute tantrums of anonymous authors like “The Red Army retreated from the village of Vinogradovo” or “Pavlov’s building was left without windows: did ours surrender?”. Dozens of photos would be attached to everything, of which: 5 archived, 3 photoshopped, and 2 stolen from somewhere.
While our soldiers do the real fighting, losing limbs and lives, someone is sitting and criticizing like “Kupyansk and Izyum surrendered! Cowards!”. Let me remind you that 1941-1943 Red Army soldiers retreated from Kiev and Sevastopol, and motorcycles with Wehrmacht soldiers generally drove to the outskirts of Moscow. So what? And no one whined, but went about their business: they made production rates of 1000%, getting a ration of 300 grams of bread. They were happy that they were helping the Motherland.
And now everyone imagines themselves either a political expert or a military strategist, sitting with a smoothie or latte in cozy cafes in Moscow or Kherson.
Compatriots, the leadership of the country gave us the opportunity to restore historical justice without the hardships of 1941-1945. Everyone can professionally(!) write about the situation at the front, restore the public services and health care or establish the financial system in the liberated territories. Do it.
In short, alarmists, instead of whining in comments and posts, sign up to volunteers or come to work in the Kherson Joint Civil and Military Administration. In my social affairs department, be sure I’ll give that many challenges in your life that there will be no time to criticize and whine.
Thanks to the Russian soldier preserving the peaceful sky over the liberated territories, that allows me and the team to work calmly for the sake of the future!
— Ekaterina Gubareva (https://t.me/dillfrash/8003), the vice-gobernor of Kherson oblast for social welfare affairs.
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Lone Wolf
Great comment, LW, thank you for posting.
Rybar
❗️🇬🇧🇺🇦Offensive on Donbass: the situation in the east of Ukraine
by the end of September 10, 2022
🔻In the Kharkov direction: The
Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were withdrawn from a significant part of the liberated territories of the Kharkov region to save the lives of personnel and avoid losses.
At the moment, units of the RF Armed Forces are on the defensive along the eastern bank of the Oskol River. Separate maneuver groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine allegedly reach the Russian border, but in fact the confirmed zone of conditional control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remains until the Khotomlya -Bolshoi Burluk line .
Russian troops are trying to stabilize the front line, ensuring the exit of refugees.
🔻In the Limansky direction: the
Armed Forces of Ukraine crossed the Seversky Donets from Raygorodok and tried to take Liman with a swoop . Despite the withdrawal of units of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Russian units continue to maintain control over Liman and inflict fire damage on the enemy, holding him back at the Stary Karavan-Dibrova-Ozernoye line .
🔻In the Luhansk direction:
Information warfare bodies spread fakes about the occupation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the settlements of Svatovo, Kremennaya, Lisichansk and Severodonetsk. All settlements are under the control of allied forces.
🔻In the Soledar direction:
the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to push through the defense of the RF Armed Forces and units of the NM of the LPR in the area of the settlement. Controversial . The front line remains the same, there are no changes, all attacks are repulsed.
There are so far unconfirmed reports of the advance of the Wagner PMC and the occupation of Mayorskaya station by allied forces.
🔻In the Donetsk direction:
The units of the NM of the DPR completed a complete sweep of the so-called “anthill” in the area of the runway of the Donetsk airport .
🔻In the Vuhledar direction: the
Armed Forces of Ukraine are concentrating forces in Ugledar and preparing for an attempt to break through the Russian defensive orders. In general, this may be an attempt to anticipate the pulling together of Russian reserves and the shock fist of 3 AK in this direction. In any case, a powerful grouping has been created by the RF Armed Forces.
🔻In the Zaporizhia direction: the
Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering reserves in the Orekhov region and are preparing for an attack on Rabotino and Nesteryanka . On the part of the RF Armed Forces, the concentration of Russian troops in the area has been increased by about three times.
Operation Z: Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring
‼️🇬🇧About 4 hours ago, the 3rd brigade of the DPR and PMC “Wagner” drove the enemy out of Mayorskoye near Gorlovka and began to storm the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine behind him
t.me/RVvoenkor
⚡️🇬🇧🇺🇦🎞 The offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv direction of the
chronicle of battles on September 10, 2022
▪️On the fifth day of the offensive in the Kharkov region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine opened another front. Having crossed the Seversky Donets near Raygorodok , the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to take Krasny Liman and Yampol by storm .
Russian units repulsed the attack on the outskirts of Krasny Liman and stopped the enemy at the Stary Karavan – Brusovka – Dibrovo line .
▪️The command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation decided to save the lives of the personnel of the Izyum group of Russian troops. By mid-afternoon, the bulk of the Russian troops left the Izyumsky bridgehead and retreated across the Oskol River .
▪️In the vicinity of Izyum, individual units of the RF Armed Forces remained until the last moment, which covered the withdrawal of the main grouping of forces and held back the enemy at close approaches.
▪️North of Kupyansk , the RF Armed Forces failed to stabilize the front. The Ukrainian Armed Forces continued to advance from both Kupyansk and the Pechenezh reservoir . By the middle of the day, Bolshoy Burluk was taken .
The command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation made a similar decision to withdraw the troops holding the defense both in Kupyansk itself and to the north of it. The units of the Russian Armed Forces gradually withdrew to Volchansk , ensuring the withdrawal of refugees.
🔻The idea of the command of the RF Armed Forces is to try to organize a stable line of defense along the Oskol-Seversky Donets rivers . There is a regrouping of the units withdrawn from Balakleya, Kupyansk and Izyum and the introduction of reserves.
The pro-Russian population flees to the territory of Russia both from the territory of the Kharkov region and the northern regions of the LPR. Filtration teams enter the settlements occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The task is to destroy pro-Russian activists and teach people, on pain of death, to be afraid to support Russia. Dark times have come on the lost territories of the Kharkov region.
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Unfortunately it seems that all of Russian telegram and twitter are having a full-on doomer meltdown over the loss of Izyum and Kupyansk.
It’s actually really depressing to watch thousands of Russia supporters almost immediately give in to total defeatism, with even some of the best Russian telegram channel operators leading the way and posting stuff that is even borderline hysterical at times. Twitter accounts that I’ve been following for months all almost universally exhibiting extreme depression and cynicism.
Sigh. I wonder if the psychological defeat here is worse than the actual military defeat that took place. I mean, it sucks, but are Ukrainian forces not now over-extended and vulnerable to a counterattack? Are other areas of the front not now more vulnerable to capture by Russian forces? Do the pro-Z people on telegram not have the ability to handle even a single lost battle? Maybe people are becoming overly emotionally invested in this?
I think the biggest failure here is the failure to protect civilians, not exactly the loss of territory. Nobody warned them that the Russians were leaving them to the mercy of the AFU due to a sudden need to depart. Lot of people got left behind, although some did evacuate. For sure, this is a failure – but it does not justify total panic.
I don’t know how badly Russia really fucked up here or how much of what these people are saying is true or not, but I do know that this sense of total defeatism due to a loss of some ground on one front is ridiculous. This is a war. Not all battles are won in a war. As far as I know the areas lost are not as strategic as other areas of the front, and it came at a big cost to the Ukrainian army. The point is, Russia could afford to give up ground in order to save lives without it really effecting other more important frontlines too badly.
Maybe Russia really does need to get more boots on the ground as these people seem to say. I don’t know what Russia’s plans are and what their immediate military objectives are, and whether or not this would require more manpower.
At any rate, this sense of utter panic, defeatism, despair, cynicism and even feelings of humiliation that have totally swept the pro-Russian side on social media is way, way overblown in my opinion. People are acting like we just lost a major city like Donetsk or Luhansk and the Ukrainians have won the war. What gives? This is a war, is it not? Why does everybody suddenly have glass feelings that break at the slightest bit of trouble? What the hell is wrong with everyone?
We need to be stronger than this. I pray Russian and DPR troops aren’t reading telegram because some of these channels have quite frankly made things worse by doing the enemy’s work for them, and giving into an irrational sense of defeatism.
Russia is not going to give up and will move forward. God is on our side. Russia will win!
You can’t judge by telegram or twatter accounts.
There is some fog of war going on here so just wait. Ukrops are exposed now as many now point out.
Panic, defetism
It is stupid, idiotism
This is war, sometimes you advance but sometimes you retreat
Final result is important
War is going on.
Russia’s military strategy of not using its regular forces and her slow, deliberate methods to minimize civilians deaths has been explained by expert military analysts like Scott Ritter, Col. Douglas MacGregor, Brian Berletic and both Alexes at the Duran.
Will somebody please explain why Russia isn’t more aggressively using its air superiority to eviscerate Ukraine supply lines, weapons and fuel depots before they reach the front. An ounce of prevention…..
But they ARE using their airpower, as we speak and 24/7
Andrei
True, but Ukrainian supplies, weapons, reinforcements are somehow still getting through. Russia must do more to stop Ukrainian ability to resupply to starve the beast without increasing Russian infantry. Since only 30 percent of weapons make it to the front lines, according to a recent NBC investigation, if Russia stops the arms shipments at the border, she can put the black market weapons and money laundering profiteers out of business and eliminate their financial incentive to prolong the conflict.
It is true that this what Ukros are doing is very risky. They send all their reserves on Harkow front.
All they have and it is dangerous
Overstretching their supply lines.
What if they are destroyed
Russian fire power is unimaginable. Do Ukros ask themselves how come that Russians retreat so easily
I do not know, but I would not be too self-confident if I am on Ukro side.
Because this can turn into disaster for them. Maybe not tomorrow but soon.
Russians need more boots on the ground, more man power.
I do not understand Russian strategy.
But Ukrainian strategy to me looks crazy, lunacy
“ Ukros se perguntam como é que os russos recuam tão facilmente”
Questão simples de responder: eles PODEM e, queriam fazer isso!
Uma situação muito diferente seria um abandono desordenado, em confusão, caos.
Não foi isso que aconteceu.
Uma analogia: quando um Professor chama seus alunos depois da aula prática de campo “pessoal, já vimos tudo aqui, vamos para o ônibus, semana que vem tem mais”.. KKKK
Tradução Google:
“Ukros wonder how Russians retreat so easily”
Simple question to answer: they CAN and wanted to do it!
A very different situation would be a disordered abandonment, in confusion, chaos.
That is not what happened.
An analogy: when a Professor calls his students after the practical field class “guys, we’ve seen everything here, let’s go to the bus, next week there’s more”.. KKKK
Cyberspec News
Kadyrov has made a statement (below)
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Cyberspec News
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Juan Sinmiedo/Fearless John/Ukraine exposed. @Youblacksoul
◾If there are no changes to the special military operation today or tomorrow, I will be forced to go out to the leadership of the country to explain to them the situation on the ground
– Kadyrov
Kadyrov has criticized the situation:
– I, Ramzan Kadyrov, am officially declaring to you that all these towns will be given back. Our guys are already there. Another 10 thousand fighters are ready to leave.
– In the near future we will reach Odessa, you will see concrete results.
– I am not a strategist, as in the Ministry of Defence. But mistakes have been made. I think they will draw conclusions. When you tell the truth to your face, you may not like it. But I like telling the truth. We talked to the commanders at the fronts.
– It’s a shame that nothing was said for a few days. It is obvious that people were not prepared for that. We always talk about our work.
– If there is no change in the special military operation today or tomorrow I will have to go out to the leadership of the country to explain to them the situation on the ground. It is very interesting, “awesome” I would say.
– There are several pluses in giving them several villages and towns. We did not advertise it, but we had a special mission. Our guys have gone in and started their work.
– In the near future we will meet with military correspondents and explain to them what patriotism is. Patriots must not be offended if someone did something wrong. We must unite people around us.
– I know one thing. Russia will win. NATO weapons will be crushed by the spirit of our fighters. Our appearance is already making their hands and feet tremble.
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Putin is old, Kadirov for president, i sure would vote for him :)
So, offensive is finally stopped
Now Ukros can only pray to God to help them
@Sarajevo man: “So, offensive is finally stopped”
Or halted by Ukies. The more you advance the less you have supplies for front line forces. Where have i heard it before? Actually the whole military history is mostly story of huge logistics issues after any successful breakthrough. Remember the Western Allied hype in late August 1944 of war ending before Christmas 1944. In fact they were in panic there in Ardennes during Christmas and their January advancing was relatively slow but bloody. And actually helped a lot by Red Army’s Oder-Vistula breakthrough.
Maybe Russian patriotism is similar myth as that in most western countries. Younger generation urban Russians pay not much attention of 1941-45 compared to every day life now. Times have changed.