Two days ago Scott Horton debated a guy called Harvey Kushner from New York (I am not kidding!) at Texas A&M University and the resulting discussion is highly interesting to watch. First, Scott really ripped this poor Neocon into tiny little shreds over and over again. It is absolutely hilarious to see this so-called “expert” getting hammered by Scott who never pretended to be an expert on anything (even though he could teach graduate college courses on US foreign policy in any Ivy League college). Poor Harvey is reduced to “pulling rank” by referring to his lifetime expertise in the “real world” only to go on getting hammered by Scott again. By the end of the debate Harvey from New York was clearly frustrated, humiliated and angry. And so he should: I have rarely seen anyone getting so thoroughly thrashed.
The debate is also very interesting from another aspect. It clearly shows the mindset of kind of Fascist Neocon which have hijacked the USA in the last decades. Harvey from New York openly speaks of 5th columns, of an infiltrated Congress, of an infiltrated US military. Make no mistake, Harvey from New York cannot wait until the Federal government cracks down on any and all forms of dissent. Harvey from New York, when forced to admit that the USA is an empire, says that he is *proud* of the fact that the USA is an empire. Basically, Harvey from New York want to kill all those who oppose the rule of Harvey from New York over the planet. This is the real nature of the threat which faces the entire planet. Its really that simple and that basic. Harvey from New York vs. the rest of mankind.
Scott deserves a lot of credit for forcing this crazed Neocon to reveal his real nature and agenda.
Who is Kushner referring to as the “Fifth Column” in the military, Congress, and the media? Is this a code word? For the rest of us non-neocons?
Great post by the way. Very interesting. Scott did great. Scott had command of names and dates, whereas Kushner pretty much just blabbed cliches.
Here is the description of Harvey Kushner on Amazon.com:
Holy War on the Home Front: The Secret Islamic Terror Network in the United States
Kushner, a Long Island University professor of Criminal Justice and Security Administration and a federal government counter terrorism adviser, blames the Clinton administration, the “liberal media” and political correctness for creating what he sees as a climate that fostered a vast, “secret Islamic network” of Muslim terrorists operating within American borders. In finger-pointing, accusatory prose, Kushner attacks Clinton, the ACLU and anyone else with PC leanings for allowing Islamic terrorist operations to gain a foothold on these shores, primarily through universities, mosques, Muslim charities and the prison system. Kushner singles out Democrats and liberals for blame, and praises President Bush and Republicans, even though he contends the secret terror network continues to operate today. The fault lies squarely, he says, with liberals of all stripes who speak out against such anti-terrorism tactics as the Patriot Act and law enforcement’s use of racial profiling. “The only explanation as to why we continue to ignore the secret Islamic terror network in America is that the demands of political correctness have made us so afraid of being branded racists that we force ourselves to be color blind, identity blind and gender blind till we end up, quite simply, totally blind,” Kushner says. Aside from its author’s overt partisanship, this short book’s other main failing is that it appears that the authors did nearly all of their research on the Internet. Virtually all of the endnotes cite Web sites. While there is a large amount of well-documented, credible information on the World Wide Web, the net is also the home of a vast amount of misinformation, unverifiable information, myth and propaganda, and some may find Kushner’s sources to be poor basis for such strong claims.
I’m surprised that Kushner provided ZERO evidence of this vast terror network. I’m guessing he is as much of a security expert as Daniel Pipes is an expert on Islam. He appears to know far less than Scott Horton and cites few examples to support his argument. He is also incorrect in claiming that Hamas never received support from Israel.
-AA
This Kushner is so arrogant he has no idea when he contradicts himself.
Great question! The Fifth Column. The Fourth Estate. The Third Man. All of these phrases can get confusing. According to Britannica.com, a fifth column refers to any clandestine group or faction of subversive agents who attempt to undermine a nation’s solidarity.
Who came up with the phrase, and what’s with the columns? Emilio Mola Vidal, a Nationalist general during the Spanish Civil War (1936-39), originally coined the term. As four of his army columns moved on Madrid, the general referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his “fifth column,” intent on undermining the loyalist government from within.
So the fifth column is a group of secret sympathizers or supporters of an enemy that engage in espionage or sabotage within defense lines or national borders. Recent conflicts have had their fifth columns: Iraqi insurgents in the Gulf War, Cuban rebels in the Bay of Pigs. Those columns didn’t fare quite as well.
Although I haven’t yet watched the video I did read the comments at antiwar.com. One poster noted the menacing face at kushner’s website.
http://www.harveykushner.com/
On another topic I just saw this about Putin’s CNN interview. My only question is since Putin should have expected this treatment, why did he give it anyway?
http://exiledonline.com/is-cnn-getting-kicked-out-of-russia/#more-781
By the way, thanks for posting the original interview. I knew as I read the Stalin statement Americans would never see it. My reaction to it was the tipoff.
“a guy called Harvey Kushner from New York (I am not kidding!)”
i’m not sure i understand that comment.
new york: listen to his accent!
horton was great — he was obviously rookie and nervous — but he used so many hard facts that he demolished the neocon. awesome.
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