by Fulan Nasrullah
Good question. Most people find it hard to navigate through the confusing myriad of stories about Boko Haram. Especially .the lies and half-truths and outright ignorance propagated by contemporary Main Stream Media (MSM) as ‘facts’.
To understand what these people are one needs access to them. Apart from Shekau, the rest of the Boko Haram are publicity wary, viewing it as a distraction to their ’cause’ so knowing them tends to get a bit difficult
And then there is the government. You know too much about the Boko Haram, you are a Boko Haram operative or a sympathizer, and its off with your head a la Alice in Wonderland style. So one tends to be cautious albeit a little bit paranoid about what in can say or even hear.
However what is clear that I can pass along is this.
There are four groups, three of whom are allied to each other. They are namely:
1. Jamaa’atu Ahlis-Sunnah Lid-Da’wati Wal-Jihaad of Abubakar Shekau
2. Jamaa’atu Ahlis-Sunnah Ahlis-Sunnah Lid-Da’wati Wal-Jihaad of Sheikh Bukar Al-Barnawi
…. Group of the People of The Sunnah(Traditions) For the Call/Propagation (Evangelism) and The Struggling/Striving
3. Ansorul-Muslimiina Fii Bilaadis-Sudan led by Abu Usamah Al-Ansori
….. Helpers Of The Muslims In The Lands of The Sudan (Sudan is a classical Arabic term referring to the entire part of Muslim Africa that runs from Senegal and the Atlantic to the Ethiopia-Sudan border. Some historians also include Ethiopia and Somalia up to the Juba and Shabelle regions in it
4. Haraktul-Muhajiriina wal-Mujahidiin led by Khalid Al-Barnawi.
Movement of Those Who Have Migrated and Those Who Are Striving……..
Origins….
These four groups all originated from the students of Muhammad Yusuf who survived the 2009 Conflict in Maiduguri which was badly mismanaged by the government. They first called to seek revenge for the massacre of several thousand of innocent residents of Maiduguri and the extra-Judicial murder of Sheikh Yusuf.
Their call has metamorphosed into a whole different reason for fighting
Ideology…..
They are Yusufiyya. They follow strictly the teachings of Muhammad Yusuf. However the group of Shekau is becoming more Takfiri and leaving the Yusufiyyah Ideology and this is causing estrangement between it and the other three groups.
They are Yusufiyyah Sunnis I.e Sunnis on the Aqeedah (Creed) of Muhammad Yusuf and the Manhaj(Methodology) of Thaurah fil-Jihad (Revolution In Striving) to the core. They can stand Ikhwanis since they revere Qutb and Al-Banna.
However, the three other groups I.e Jamaa’atu Ahlis-Sunnah of Sheikh Bukar Al-Barnawi, Harakatul-Muhajiriin of Khalid Al-Barnawi and Ansorul-Muslimiin of Abu Usamah Al-Ansori despise Ikhwanul-Muslimiin (Muslim Brotherhood) because the Ikhwan participate in democracy and protest which the Yusufiyyah reject.
Their Views Of Al-Baghdadi…..
Shekau and his group have links with Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi and his group that date back to May/June 2014 when a delegation from Shekau arrived in Ar-Raqqoh in Syria to seek an agreement of cooperation with Al-Baghdadi and his then Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. The agreement was reached and half a dozen technical advisors from the ISIS are said to have come to Nigeria via Chad and Cameroon to train Shekau’s forces. Apart from those technical no substantial support from Al-Baghdadi flowed to Shekau.
While Shekau obviously admires Baghdad, it I unclear so far if he has pledged loyalty to Al-Baghdadi’s Islamic State yet or if he is even willing to go that far.
The other three groups take a radically different view of Al-Baghdadi, deriding him as an ‘adventurer’ and a ‘bloodthirsty descendant of Al-Hajjaj Bin Yusuf’ and as ‘one who calls to misguidance’.
Shekau’s association with Al-Baghdadi and his adopting of the Takfiri code of Al-Baghdadi’s Islamic State has caused the other three groups to be wary of him and to band together in case they may need to fight him in the future.
What Are They Fighting For….
I must confess a lack of complete knowledge of what they are fighting for.
Shekau’s objective is totally indiscernible to me. If he wants to conquer the whole Nigeria or just a part, I simply cannot tell.
The others wanted revenge for 2009(Sheikh Bukar Al-Barnawi), defence of Muslims against the alleged plots of Christian Association of Nigeria and the fanatic neo-Zionist churches that are found in Northern Nigeria e.g ECWA (Evangelical Communion Of West Africa and COCIN (Church of Christ In Nigeria) with islamophobic ideologies and known consorts of Israel’s Mossad (Sheikh Abu Usamah Al-Ansori), and joining the global Jihad against the enemies of Islam (America and pro- American Muslim regimes) and waging Jihad to protect Muslim lands (Khalid Al-Barnawi), respectively.
Now buoyed on by their fast growing strength, their increasing numbers, their easy victories and their increasing arsenal, they are no longer fighting fr the mundane causes of the past. They (especially Khalid Al-Barnawi and Abu Usamah Al-Ansori) believe they can defeat the Nigerian Army and overthrow the current system of government and establish an Islamic Union/State/Emirate of Nigeria or something like that based on their rule and their ideas. They see this war as a long struggle that they will fight one village at a time until the whole of Nigeria is under their heel willingly or unwillingly.
Before they took Gwoza, negotiations were possible in fact they were calling for negotiations. But after the ease of defending Damboa, retaking Gamboru-Ngala, seizing Madagali and chasing Nigerian troops into Cameroon, they are confident that in the long run they can and will win.
“…the global Jihad against the enemies of Islam (America and pro- American Muslim regimes)…” They make a lot of noise about that, but only seem to attack other Arabs. They don’t attack Americans or Israelis with anything other than words. Least that’s my impression.
Oops, I was thinking about ISIS, but I stand by what I said: Boko Haram just seem to want to spread chaos for the sake of spreading chaos. Whether they know it or not they are playing into the hands of Yanquis and Zionists.
Fullan,
I’m just so glad we’re hearing from you again! I was really really worried, and had been praying for the health and safety of you and everyone you know and care about, as well as for an end to these ceaseless, senseless horrors. How do you raise children in a situation like this? How do you live? It just looks to me like we, the Saudis and Israel are all behind it, and really don’t care what kind of bedlam we create bc the whole purpose was to do precisely that. And I don’t see how anyone living there has any recourse whatever to anything else. Is the whole purpose to drive people out of Nigeria? And if so, to where? Or is this basically just like what we’re doing in Ukraine, where we clearly couldn’t care less how it’s disrupted or what happens to the people, as long as we get our hands on the oil, the soil, or whatever else we’re really wanting. In any case, I want to apologise to you for the horrors my government is committing in my name and with my tax dollars; I’d be quite happy to do everything I can to stop it all, if I could just figure out what exactly that would be. Please do know there are some of us who really do care about this though, and think about it, a lot.
Thank you for this succinct and informative summary of which I dare say few if any of us had any knowledge. Please continue to help us understand the dynamics of these events.
In my experience movements often emerge out of a set of grievances, which combined with a set of circumstances set it on a path with a vision that may not have been imagined at the start.
It seems to me that while Boko Haram emerged as a reaction to a defined set of events, it has since become a vehicle for expressing a wide range of hopes and fears.
The key question is whether or not they have the ability to deliver on the dreams they proffer.
One of the best things that happened in the Syrian conflict was the ‘government’ that was put in place by the jihadist groups in the areas they controlled. As those groups fell to looting pillaging and fighting amongst themselves, Syrians quickly realized those people were completely incapable of building any kind of community or society. Any popular support or sympathy they had quickly evaporated.
Again, thank you for your post and the clarity of your information.
Nora said it for me. Is it a mosaic or a puzzle ‘without’ an end? Me thinks the latter. We/Saker have been garbaging about a handful of pure nonsense for more time than it takes to grow crop of potatoes, and then some. Lets face it all we can doit talk. If that works, so be it. nice to know we are all that smart.
Now spend a couple of lines for “my” Mali Russins you know where..and not the Ruth’s as good as they are.
Boko Haram is a consequence of imperialism. Take out all the looting going on underneath and it will turn into a regular society with low intnesity conflicts. Always external forces cause these to turn into extreme genocidal tendencies.
Has the whole world gone mad?
The Muslims fighting on the periphery are becoming stronger and stronger.
oi, this is all well and good, but I need to know whether or not Novorossia is getting sold out. I need to know about the balance of power in Moscow and Novorussia between those ready to go all the way and those trying to make some slimey deal. I won’t be happy until 8-10 regions plus Kiev are taken, joined with Tiraspol and all oligarchs destroyed.
Fulan Nasrullah
Good to see you back here again and thanks for the report.
“the group of Shekau is becoming more Takfiri…They can stand Ikhwanis…The agreement was reached and half a dozen technical advisors from the ISIS are said to have come to Nigeria via Chad and Cameroon to train Shekau’s forces.”
That group sounds like a prime candidate for membership in the Mossad/CIA “al qaida” family of pet “Muslim” terrorist merc army.
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DONT lie about The Boko Haram, they where and stil is an American runn and founded Pattsy org, as the ISIS and so on are, incl Al-q.
Boko Haram was untill two years ago, a “good partner” for the Americans and even Hilarious Calligula Clintonius, wasnt intressed in labeling and marking them as an Terrorist org. since they where doing the right things, creating havoc, and to justify further violence, that patern is EXACTLY the same as in Libya and so on.
I wounder who is actually writing this shitt, and remeber Mali.
huh, would probably moust of you think, but the same “al quedas” was sent into Mali, where the land was infact calming down and even the Berbers had gotten thei atonomy, and Mali was on the right track for the comon people and to the benefitt of the land, but NOPE.
Mali is a land with wast meatl recoursess and gold, and then “al queda” begunn killing and created wars inside Mali, and just some months after the French sent in their “rescue” to help, but the fact is that the French instaled their own puppet instead, and now they and the western lands controll Mali totaly and have acsess to the entire basis of recoursess.
I am getting really pissed of by mutch of the bullshitt I read about the so called “islamic fighters” whom are more of an insane criminal org than anything else.
Why do I feal one have to correct the f… bollocs served to us 24/7.
Do you think we are braindead, I dont for a f…. second belive the BH is Islamic nor intressed in the comon man/woman since they behave like sick f…. and kills and rapes the very people they supousedly fight for.
How f… stupid is it possible to be, amricans and europenas.
Its all a show, runn and feeded by the imerialsic western anglo lands, with the curtecys of and rotected by the prestitutes of the rotten ot the core MSM, whom EVERYBODY in eastern Ukraina would be f… familiare with by now, that senario YOU are having and going thrue is exactly the same used for centurys.
And as far back as the ancient Rome and its senats, if WE dont have an enemy, we create one, the Heglian anti/thesis.
But I gess you dont know this or are afraid of speaking about this.
This groups are f…. fakes, and why do you think they as the ISIS use balaclavas all the time, because they arent Arabs at all.
Manly mercs, as YOU should know by now.
I DONT BY THIS ISLAMIC drivel at all, its 100% propaganda and lies.
They are simply traitores and turncoats, thats it, criminal that should be hanged, for what they are sick f… criminals.
Nothing more or less.
wake up.
peace
Hello,
Yes. Thank you for these very interesting informations; This area tends to be very confused and it is difficult to find information you can trust.
Do you know anything about the rumor that the “khalife” al Baghdadi would be a Mossad=trained agent?
By the way I am told that the term “Soudan” comes from the Arab word “Aswad”, which means “Black”. Most of that was in the Empire of Morocco controlled land or sphere of influence, which is the basis for the Moroccan claim to the Sahara. They consider all of these lands were there until it was torn from them by Spain and France.
Salam
So… what is so attractive about the ideas of Mohammed Yusuf?
The Wikipedia article links to a BBC article which quotes him as saying:
“There are prominent Islamic preachers who have seen and understood that the present Western-style education is mixed with issues that run contrary to our beliefs in Islam. Like rain. We believe it is a creation of God rather than an evaporation caused by the sun that condenses and becomes rain. Like saying the world is a sphere. If it runs contrary to the teachings of Allah, we reject it. We also reject the theory of Darwinism.”
That rather makes him sound as simply representing those who prefer comfortable ignorance over uncomfortable truth.
But surely there’s more to it than that.
Dear Fulan Nasrullah, do you agree that Nigeria’s extreme population growth might plunge the country into indefinite chaos, irrespective of other political/religious/social details. According to the United Nations population division medium variant (http://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/unpp/panel_population.htm), Nigeria will have in 2040 approximately 350 million people and in 2060 537 million people. That’s a huge number for an area roughly the size of Germany and France combined.
best regards,
olivier
Dear friend, check this out: http://theantimedia.org/council-on-foreign-relations-syrian-rebels-need-al-qaeda-now/
Steven Sotloff Was an Israeli: Report
According to the above article, Steven Sotloff was a Jew with dual citizenship, both Israeli and American.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@E said: That rather makes him sound as simply representing those who prefer comfortable ignorance over uncomfortable truth. But surely there’s more to it than that.
Excellent observation.
The Sunni believe in Predestination, the Shia believe in Freewill. The Sunni believe in Caliphate, the Shia believe in Democracy, as Iran is a good example.
Thus, all those corrupt Caliphs are appointed by God due to Predestination. Therefore, we should bow to the rules of corrupt rulers. How convenient.
The first people who challenged that were Hassan Al-Banna, the founder of Brotherhood (Brother Keepers) and Syed Qutb in early 20th century. In English it is referred to as, “Muslim Brotherhood”.
Basically, according to them all these corrupt rulers are NOT appointed by God, but by the Colonizer. Therefore, we must protest for democracy.
Every time, this takes place in any country, they are injected with “liver eaters” and are taken over by the “liver eaters” with the help of Muslim Scholars. The rulers are powerful with lots of money.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Thank you Fullan,
As always very interesting and informative.
Mindfriedo
The so called “Boko Haram” is a MI6 psy op(through it’s “cia/ mossad” executive department).The same can be said about the so called “ISIS”/”ISIL”/”IS” or whatever the “msm” propaganda machinery calls it today…The (City of London Corp.)”Venician” Empire at work…
thank you fulan. What is the source of “outside” support for BH? Surely it cannot be entirely homegrown.
@Mohamed
Salam
“the Shia believe in Freewill”
You’ve said this before and I’ve let it slide.
I remember listening to a Hadees in the mosque where a man brought this question to Imam Ja’far Sadiq (as). The Imam told him that the matter is in between free will and predestination. He could not understand. So the Imam asked him to raise one foot. When one foot of the man was in the air, he said raise the other. The man was perplexed and said it is physically impossible. This he (imam Ja’far) said is what it means. You can do so much and no more. People have free will but only to the extent granted to them.
“the Shia believe in Democracy, as Iran is a good example.”
Are you serious?
Shia believe in Democracy?
Nope, in Islam it’s only by God, of God and for God.
Immamat not Rahbariayat.
As Iran is a good example?
Every government till the coming of the Mahdi is corrupt and will fail. Every single type. Even the part democracy part theocracy of The “Islamic” Republic of Iran.
Mindfriedo
I’d never paid too much attention to much of the African stuff, except this Ebola outbreak (Fort Detrick & Tulane University have been running a “research programme” at a private – I think – lab in Liberia – again I think thats right) There was too much war & corruption & western lies from Tunisia to the Ukraine to spend too much if any time on African news.
But Islamaphobia must be spread to the very ends of the earth and surprise, surprise Zionist backed churches spewing hate & incitement, ably assisted by massacres by Govt forces (probably at the bidding of some resource raping multi national This article has offered a very good background to this whole Boko Haram phenomenon and I now have a very basic understanding. As usual the old ABCNNBCBSBBCFOX hydra has done a stellar job of completely obfuscating the reason for Boko Haram, portraying them as just another group of Sharia Law preaching violent Muslims . . . . we know that where ever the next group “pops up” that there’ll be rich pickings just below the surface.
Nigeria/British here.
Lived in Nigeria for 27yrs till 2003. An ordinary nigerian just wish to live,work and provide for his family and its impossible for an ordinary man to just take a gun and fight for whatever cause on his own without someone big backers somewhere promising him big returns in the end. Terrorism as turn into big multi-billion dollar industry, and there are recruits everywhere willing to take arms. Religion is the easiest excuse to use as a reason. Its all about the money, money, money, for both the stupid recruits and the financiers paying them. Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, Free Syrian Army etc are all mercinaries, payed handsomely by the bosses ie CIA,Mossad,MI5,MI6,FBI,DHS,etc. Religion also gets the most recruits. They are all mecenaries, no different from Blackwater and co.
“So we continue to call on Russia to pull back its troops from Ukrainian borders, stop the flow of weapons and fighters into Ukraine, stop the support for armed militants in Ukraine and engage in a constructive political process,” Rasmussen said.
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/748081
Rasmussen is called Psaki in trousers. He just kicked his own behind, beside Bama’s, Cameroon’s, Abbott’s etc. Where are Russian troops in UA or @ border? Quuestion for god
@ Mindfriedo said: You’ve said this before and I’ve let it slide.
I remember listening to a Hadees in the mosque where a man brought this question to Imam Ja’far Sadiq (as). The Imam told him that the matter is in between free will and predestination. He could not understand. So the Imam asked him to raise one foot. When one foot of the man was in the air, he said raise the other. The man was perplexed and said it is physically impossible. This he (imam Ja’far) said is what it means. You can do so much and no more. People have free will but only to the extent granted to them.
Yes, you finally understand that it is a fine line between the Freewill and the Will of God.
When Yazid (la) killed Imam Hussain (as), he did this out of his Freewill not because of Predestination.
When abu Bakr, Omar and Osman upsurged the rights of Imam Ali, they did it our of their Freewill not because of Predestination.
According to Sunni, all Caliphs are chosen by Predestination. And, for this reason they call the Shia “Rafida”. Rafida means, “to deny”. The Shia deny the Caliphates of abu Bakr, Omar and Osman and thus to the Sunni, the Shia deny the Will of God, therefore the Shia are Kafirs.
It was the same Imam Ja’far Sadiq (as), who said that if Rafida means deniers, than I am proudly a Rafida.
Shia Islam is not so easy to understand. Irfan and Sufism are from none other than Imam Ali (as).
Mindfriedo said: Are you serious?
Shia believe in Democracy?
Nope, in Islam it’s only by God, of God and for God.
Immamat not Rahbariayat.
Tell me where is your Imam now?
Bahrain is majority of Shia, around 70%. Are they not asking for democracy in Bahrain now?
What are the Houtis demanding in Yemen?
What is Arab Spring?
Is there not so called Democracies in both Egypt and Yemen?
How did you choose your Marja, while your Imam is in occulation?
Each and every person in a Shia home who is baliq (mature) choose his/her own Marja. If this is not democracy, then what it is?
Like I said earlier, Shia Islam is not so easy to understand.
The Sunni believe in Predestination and therefore the rulers are chosen by God.
1. The first ruler (caliph) abu Bakr was chosen by a committee of eight people.
2. The second ruler (caliph) Omar was chosen by the Will of first ruler (caliph) abu Bakr.
3. The third ruler (caliph) Osman was chosen by a Committee of seven formed by the second ruler (caliph) Omar, and he nominated two candidates, Osman and Imam Ali (as).
4. The forth ruler (caliph) Imam Ali (as)was chosen by the masses.
5. The fifth ruler (caliph) Muawiyah chose himself by might by sword.
6. The sixth ruler (caliph) Yazid (la) was chosen by his father the fifth ruler (caliph) Muawiyah.
7. Then on the caliphate become dynasties.
According to the Sunnis the above is Predestination, and shouldn’t be questioned. NO RULER SHOULD BE QUESTIONED. How convenient.
And, Prophet Mohammad (saws) forgot to choose his successor, or didn’t consider it necessary as Predestination will take care of itself. It was abu Bakr who saw the threat to the Muslims, being without a successor, and choose himself while Mohammad (saws) body was still warm. Mohammad (saws) being a Prophet couldn’t foresee this. AstafgurAllah.
Like I said earlier, Shia Islam is not so easy to understand.
@Mindfriedo said: Every government till the coming of the Mahdi is corrupt and will fail. Every single type. Even the part democracy part theocracy of The “Islamic” Republic of Iran.
So we should not have any government at all, and have law of jungle.
Or, being 70% Shia, let the Sunnis rule us, and then we can blame them easily.
One man’s terrorist is another man’s mercenary.
@Mohamed
Will do this quickly, I think we keep taking up Fullan’s amazing work with our petty debates:
“When Yazid (la) killed Imam Hussain (as), he did this out of his Freewill not because of Predestination.”
Tell me what this Ayat refers to, it was revealed before Karbala:
And We Ransomed him with a Great Sacrifice 37:107
Don’t answer this cause I agree with your religious views, not your religious political views:
“Bahrain is majority of Shia, around 70%. Are they not asking for democracy in Bahrain now?
What are the Houtis demanding in Yemen?”
Please read up on what the Houthis are demanding:
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2014/09/yemen-houthi-leader-warns-civil-unrest-20149113228408313.html
Their rights, not democracy: Democracy gets subverted faster than any other system and oligarchs start to rule. The Protesters in Bahrain were initially ok with the Monarchy. The crackdown led to a hardening of views. They were demanding better rights.
“Tell me where is your Imam now?”
You don’t need this answer
“How did you choose your Marja, while your Imam is in occulation?
Each and every person in a Shia home who is baliq (mature) choose his/her own Marja. If this is not democracy, then what it is?”
What are the categories that help you select a Marja brother Mohamed? Is it just popular will (democracy)? Once you go through these requirements, most learned, pious, reputation, there are very few choices left and with a little common sense, there is none.
Moreover, what are the rights of this Marja? Is he allowed to interfere in politics? To rule? To trespass on the authority of an Imam?
Sistani can rule much more easily than Khomeini could rule Iran. If Sistani asked, you, me, Shias from all over would flock to Iraq. Iranian Shias would abandon their Rahbar. Why does he stay aloof of power? When it is so close? So tempting?
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“So we should not have any government at all, and have law of jungle.
Or, being 70% Shia, let the Sunnis rule us, and then we can blame them easily”
I have heard this argument from Iranis very often.
No Mohamed, not having one does not mean you have another. For instance if something is not black, does not mean it is white.
Did our Imams not have authority from God to rule? Was most of Khurasan not with Imam Reza (as) if he so choose? Was it not predestined by God that our beloved Imams show us the way till Qayama and not rule? Did our Imams not live under the Umayyad Caliphs and the Abbasid Caliphs when they could have demanded the right to rule? And knowing that God would have granted them anything, why did they not claim power?
I’ll quote you here: Shia Islam is not so easy to understand.
And I’ll modify it a bit: God knows best!
The rule of God will only be through the Mahdi (atfs). Every other system, even an “Islamic” one that Ayatollah Ruhullah Khomeini brought to Iran…will fail!
warm regards
Mindfriedo
So… was I right in my previous comment? I’m trying to understand what makes Yusuf’s ideas so appealing. What is it he said that resonated with people so much? Do people feel so strongly about the “infidel” teachings of modern meteorology that they’re going to take up arms to fight for their right to believe that raindrops are caused by God instead of condensation?
I’m obviously exaggerating, in the hope that someone will give a better answer.
@Mindfriedo said: Did our Imams not have authority from God to rule? Was most of Khurasan not with Imam Reza (as) if he so choose? Was it not predestined by God that our beloved Imams show us the way till Qayama and not rule? Did our Imams not live under the Umayyad Caliphs and the Abbasid Caliphs when they could have demanded the right to rule? And knowing that God would have granted them anything, why did they not claim power?
Didn’t Imam Ali (as) rule?
If it is predestined by God, then why do you reject the caliphates of abu Bakr, Omar and Osman.
Didn’t Imam Hassan (as) rule?
If it is predestined by God, then why do you reject the caliphates of Muawiyah and Yazid (la).
Imam Redha/Reza (as) didn’t have a chance to rule. When Haroon Rashid asked Imam Redha (as) the boundaries of Fadak, based on Imam Redha (as) answer, Haroon Rashid had him murdered.
If it is predestined by God, then why do you reject the caliphate of Haroon Rashid, all the Umayyad Caliphs and all the Abbasid Caliphs.
How can you reject God’s Will, if it is predestined?
Know your history. Don’t make up history. I sometimes wonder, if you really are a Shia.
@Mindfriedo said: Please read up on what the Houthis are demanding:
http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2014/09/yemen-houthi-leader-warns-civil-unrest-20149113228408313.html
Their rights, not democracy: Democracy gets subverted faster than any other system and oligarchs start to rule. The Protesters in Bahrain were initially ok with the Monarchy. The crackdown led to a hardening of views. They were demanding better rights.
The Houtis are demanding the removal of the Yemeni President, Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi. How was this President chosen?
Only one person running in the Presidential contest.
Please don’t quote me Hasbarah al-Jazeera News.
I remember well, instead of calling the Houtis as “Protestors” you called them “Rebels”.
And, what are the Shia in Bahrain demanding, but not Constitutional Monarchy.
I have read that not only Boko Haram, but also ISIS were originally funded by CIA. There are several articles that claim this. What they claim is these are convient excuses for the War on Terror that makes money for US oligarchs, and to help break up oil rich coutries or at least bring chaos that can be exploited by corporations. Is there truth to this?
If the Caliphate of Yazid (la) was Predestined by God, then why did Imam Hussain (as) refused to give baya to Yazid (la)?
Why did Imam Hussain (as) wanted to bring revolution against Yazid (la) with the help of Kuffan, Iraq?
Like I said, Shia Islam is not so simple.
BTW, the Arabs write Redha and not Reza.
The dude said it perfectly, these guys are psychopathic mercs paid to do gruesome things and the beheading videos cannot be trusted. There is common resistance to imperial ideologies and Muslims want to just live by their own rules, for non Muslims they have their own rules to suit by. We live in a pluralistic society and it is sad to see that universal principles of Islamic humanity are being used to try to give the faith a bad name by the actions of a miniscule minority of idiots. I do not consider Shias to be non Muslims, whatever one believes is their own business between them and Allah.I also hope USA would return to its founding roots and traditions and stop getting involved in the intrigue of the middle east. A tall order indeed for Russia, China, USA or any power. Just look at history.
Khan
@Mohamed
You tire me out with your childish arguments. I am forced to answer stupid things like these:
‘I remember well, instead of calling the Houtis as “Protestors” you called them “Rebels”’
I refer to Daash as terrorists when they specifically commit a terrorist or cruel act. I refer to them as Daash fighters if it’s not clear the government is just bombing Sunni fighters in Ramadi and Fallujah allied to Daash or bombing Daash maniacs.
Similarly when the Houthis started setting up road blocks and decided to take over Sana militarily I referred to them as rebels. Right now the Houthi leader is calling for civil disobedience that makes them protesters.
Like Imam Ali (as) said “intention is the root of all action.” I try to differentiate them based on what they intend to do.
mindfriedo
@Mohamed
Dear brother
The Purpose of the Imams is to protect Allah’s deen and to show humanity the right way. That is why they each lived the way they did. Imam Ali (as) could have taken up Abu Sufyan’s (la) offer and taken power if the purpose was to rule. But that would have given you and me a bad example to follow. One that said to rule is the main purpose and how you get there does not matter. Even the 11th Imam in his short lifetime prepared the Shia for Taqlid, just as Imam Mahdi (atfs) during the shorter occultation did.
The purpose I guess is to test us as God says in the Quran “He Who has created death and life, so that He may try you” (67:2)
The reason why the three Caliphs were allowed to rule was just that. To make two paths apparent and then for man to use his limited free will to chose. Yes the rule of the three Caliphs was predestined, that is why Mohammad (sawa) asked Ali (as) to be patient and aloof from politics when he died. But the Caliphs choose to usurp power. Nobody forced them. They did it out of free will. So they are guilty for their actions. Ali (as) accepted the will/predestination of God, that is why he is Ali (as) and an inspiration to the Sufis, our Marefat, the God of the Nusairis, and what amazes the non Muslims: Ali the Magnificent.
Imam Hussain (as) did not fight for power or to be able to rule. If he did not oppose Yazid when he did, Islam would be finished. It would be a Byzantine Islam where drinking and fornication would be halal. He was willing to leave the Muslim’s land and let Yazid rule as long as he was not required to legitimize Yazid’s rule/actions. His grandfather told him that God wants to see him martyred. His grandfather prepared him for sacrifice. Mohammad (sawa) also prepared Ali (as) for the rule of the three. All this was needed to protect Islam. There is this Eulogy where Fatima (sa) refers to her son as her “desired/destined sacrifice.” Allah Allah!
“Imam Redha/Reza (as) didn’t have a chance to rule”
No brother Mohamed. The purpose of Imam Reza (as) (like the Iranians call him; and if we are talking about pronunciation then I’ll take you back to when Hazarate/Hadharat Bilal gave the Azan and the Arabs protested his pronunciation. And I’ll remind you it’s still none of your business.) was not to rule. A significant moment was when he pointed out that “He is one of the conditions for success.” This negates the Fivers and Seveners and makes our path clearer. That is why after Salat we say his ziarat specifically and not the ziarat of all remaining Imams.
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Imam Reza’s (as) purpose was to guide, not to set up God’s kingdom on Earth. And He could have ruled if he wanted. The creations of God would have answered/been obliged to answer his call. When he was leaving to perform Eid prayers people saw the sky and the earth, things they could not see answer his Takbir (May Allah send his blessings on Mohammad and his progeny). Mamun was informed that if Imam Reza (as) was allowed to finish his prayers, Mamun (la, May God curse him till the end of time) would lose his kingdom. Mamun (la) would have lost his kingdom in an instant to the like of Imam Reza (as). And here predestination and free will come to play. Yes it was Imam Hussain’s (as) choice to sacrifice in the way of God, but God had destined this for him. When Ali ibn Abi Talib (as) wishes for a son like Abbas (as) it is because of what is destined. The matter is, like Imam Ja’far Sadiq (as) clarified in-between.
“Know your history. Don’t make up history. I sometimes wonder if you really are a Shia.”
I’m not here to prove anything to anyone about my beliefs. By not ruling now, Sistani is also showing a drastic difference between Khomeini and his rule of the jurist, for which there was never any precedent (this is the history you forget), and the apolitical Shia Islam that makes man a better person. If following Khomeini and his political ideology is your criteria for deciding who a Shia is then count me out. I will follow Sistani and say what Imam Ja’far al Sadiq (as) said and be a “rafida.”
Anyone who rules, other than one guided by God, will inevitably go corrupt or become an oppressor.
mindfriedo
@Mindfriedo: Yes the rule of the three Caliphs was predestined, that is why Mohammad (sawa) asked Ali (as) to be patient and aloof from politics when he died. But the Caliphs choose to usurp power. Nobody forced them. They did it out of free will.
This is what the Sunni belief is that God’s Knowledge is Predestination. God is All Knowing, All Seeing, All Hearing. His Knowledge that that the Caliphs choose to usurp power, is not Predestination.
Then you go on to say, “Nobody forced them. They did it out of free will.”
It seems that you contradict yourself.
@Mohamed
Yes, a poor flow of words on my part.
But the point is the same.
God has foreknowledge, and destiny exists, but man has free will. And is accountable for his actions.
Seems contradiction till you can stand with both feet off the ground
Warm regards
Mindfriedo
@Mindfriedo said: Seems contradiction till you can stand with both feet off the ground
Salam Brother,
I fully agree! ~:)
We Shia believe that it was Imam Jaffar al-Sadiq who brought all this scientific knowledge to Muslims. Even to a point that the Imam has said, our Adam and Eve are 60,000 generations of Adams and Eves. Each generation being about 50,000 years. Therefore, 60,000 x 50,000 = 300,000 years minimum.
What the Imam was talking about the “Laws of Nature” and at the same time explaining there is a fine line between Freewill and Predestination. He put all the debates about Freewill vs Predestination to bed.
However, he also said that men will be able to somewhat control the “Laws of Nature”. Today, we can stand with both feet off the ground (hover) by putting a machine on our backs.
Having said the above, still today, the Imam explanation of Freewill vs Predestination is valid. It is simple and at the same time mind boggling.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
I have said this over and over again about Boko Haram. It is a covert operation by the U.S to Destabilize Nigeria and Turn Africa to another NATO-Russia era.
They’re good at stuffs like Boko haram. You guys remember Charles taylor story and Idi Amin in Africa ? (Puppets)
To do that they need something like NATO in place and they already have it as AFRICOM. AFRICAOM is just waiting patiently for the covert operation in Nigeria to become success. Ghana has already accepted to AFRICOM and if you check when Jerry John Rawlings killed a lot of them. He was secretly working for U.S and the western media white washed what he did then. Since then Ghana has turned a total Puppet state.
Once Boko haram is done breaking Nigeria (95% not likely) AFRICOM will start taking states to themselves like NATO is doing in Europe.
Now, the main purpose behind this is to stop CHINA. The fastest growing world power and the best!
I have said this over and over again about Boko Haram. It is a covert operation by the U.S to Destabilize Nigeria and Turn Africa to another NATO-Russia era.
They’re good at stuffs like Boko haram. You guys remember Charles taylor story and Idi Amin in Africa ? (Puppets)
To do that they need something like NATO in place and they already have it as AFRICOM. AFRICAOM is just waiting patiently for the covert operation in Nigeria to become success. Ghana has already accepted to AFRICOM and if you check when Jerry John Rawlings killed a lot of them. He was secretly working for U.S and the western media white washed what he did then. Since then Ghana has turned a total Puppet state.
Once Boko haram is done breaking Nigeria (95% not likely) AFRICOM will start taking states to themselves like NATO is doing in Europe.
Now, the main purpose behind this is to stop CHINA. The fastest growing world power and the best!