This article was written for the Unz Review: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/voting-for-trump/
Now that Trump has already comprehensively betrayed all his campaign promises and that he 100 first days in office are marked by nothing else but total chaos, incompetence, betrayals of his closest friends and allies, recklessly dangerous and utterly ineffective grandstanding in foreign policy, there are a lot of people out there who say “I told you so!”, “how could you take this clown seriously!” and “are you now finally waking up from your delusional state?”. Yes, a superficial survey of what Trump did since he got into the White House could appear to make these nay-sayers look right. But in reality, they are completely wrong. Let me explain why.
First, what these nay-sayers apparently ignore is that there are innumerable examples in history of the elites turning against each other, usually in times of crises. In the case of Trump, I submit that there overwhelming empirical data out there that a good part of the world elites really and truly were terrified of a possible Trump victory. The kind of hysterical, completely over-the-top hate campaign in which the US Ziomedia engaged in against Trump is something which I have never seen before and which, in my opinion, proves that the Neocon-run propaganda outlets (the Ziomedia, Hollywood) saw Trump as a major danger to their interests. Now, whether Trump had any chance against such powerful “deep state” actors or not is immaterial: Trump was a chance, a possibility and, I would argue, the only option to try to kick the Neocons in the teeth. And don’t give me Sanders or Stein as possible options, they were both 100% fake – just look at how both of them did Hillary’s dirty job for her (Sanders with his endorsement of her even though he was cheated out of a victory and Stein with her ridiculous recount). Even if Trump had just a 1% chance of prevailing, voting for him was an opportunity to achieve regime change in the USA and the American people grabbed it. They did the ethically and pragmatically correct thing. Trump was really the only choice.
Second, you can think of the elections as a giant opinion poll. What the American voter did is to send two messages urbi et orbi. First to the rest of the planet: Not in our name! We don’t support this regime! And then to the Neocons: we hate you. In fact, we hate you so much that we are willing to even vote for a guy like Trump just because we hate Hillary even more. As to the message to the Ziomedia it was crystal clear: liars! We don’t trust you! Go screw yourselves, we will vote for the man you hate with such a passion precisely because we deny you the right to tell us what to think. Yes, Trump proved to be a fake and a liar himself, but he will also be a one term President as a direct consequence of his betrayals. And it is quite possible that Kushner or Pence will now run the Empire on behalf of his real bosses, but the world will also know that this was not what the American people wanted.
Third, this gigantic vote of no-confidence in the Ziomedia will now force the regime to engage in all sorts of more or less subtle maneuvers to try to crack down on free speech in the USA. This is good news for two reasons: a) they will fail and b) they will show their true face. YouTube, Google, Facebook, Twitter and all the others are now becoming overt agents of oppression whereas in the past they still had (an admittedly thin) veneer of respectability. Now that it has become clear that the Internet is the last free-speech zone and that more and more Americans realize that Russia Today or Press TV are far superior news sources than the US Ziomedia, the level of influence of the US propaganda machine will continue to plummet.
Fourth, if we look at the immoral, self-defeating and, frankly, stupid decisions of Trump in the Middle-East and in Far-East Asia we can at least find some solace in the fact that Trump is now betraying all his campaign promises. Hillary would have done more or less the same, but with what she would definitely present these policies as having a mandate from the American people. Trump has no such excuse, and that is very good indeed. Voting for Trump took the mandate away from the Ziocons.
Fifth, remember the “basket or deplorables”? “Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.” If Hillary had been elected, then the ideology which made her characterize the average American as ugly bigot would be ruling the country by now. But she was defeated. Thus, it is becoming undeniable that there are two Americas out there: one which I call the “alliance of minorities” and the other what I would called “real America” or “mainstream America”. The defeat of Hillary has sent a powerful message to these minorities reminding them that they are exactly that – minorities – and that a political agenda centered on the hatred of the majority is not a viable one. This empowering of the majority of US Americans is, I think, a much needed development whose effects will hopefully felt in future elections.
Sixth, Trump already got one more or less decent Supreme Court Justice in. He might get another one in before he is impeached or his term ends. Hillary would have probably nominated the first Black or Latino genderfluid freak, a Chabad-Lubavitch rabbi or even Alan Dershowitz Himself (with a capital “H”) to the supreme court and dared anybody to vote them down. Of course, compared to the risks of nuclear war, a Supreme Court Justice nominee might not appear to be crucial, but for those living inside the USA such nominations can make a huge difference.
Seventh and last but not least, nuclear war is simply too horrible and threatens the future of the entire human race. I submit that we all, every one of us, has a moral duty to do everything we can to avoid it and to make it less likely, even if we can only act at the margins. This is one of those very rare cases where a single-issue vote really does make sense. I don’t care how bad Trump turned out to be. In fact, even if he turns out to be even worse than Hillary, I submit that it is absolutely undeniable that on the day the Election took place Hillary was the candidate for war and Trump the candidate for peace. Those who claim otherwise seem to have forgotten that Hillary promised us a no-fly zone over Russian forces in Syria. They also forget this absolutely crucial statement made by Hillary Clinton in early December of 2012:
“There is a move to re-Sovietise the region,” (…) “It’s not going to be called that. It’s going to be called a customs union, it will be called Eurasian Union and all of that,” (…) “But let’s make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”
There are also persistent rumors that Hillary was the one who told Bill to bomb Serbia. So this women (sorry, I cannot call her a “lady”) does have a record and that record is a frightening one. God only knows what would have happened if she had become the President. She clearly is a hateful maniac with a personal hate for Putin. There is absolutely no evidence indicating that Trump had that kind of hateful personality.
So while “Monday morning quarterbacking” is fun, it is also absurd. Those who now tell us “I told you so” are right but for the wrong reasons, whereas those who supported Trump were wrong, but for the right reasons. Trump betrayed his campaign promises, but those who voted for him could not simply assume that he would do that, especially not when there was no reason at all to believe that Hillary would betray hers: does anybody seriously believe that after being elected on a promise of war she would have turned into a dove of peace? Of course not.
Simply put: Hillary was guaranteed bad. Trump was possibly bad. The logical choice was therefore obvious, especially when ‘bad’ would most likely mean nuclear war.
Now is the perfect moment to defeat USA by Russia and China. Trump does not have support of the majority, and if they attack fully and escalate to the point that the decision would go to trumps hands, the USA would see a civil war. Russia and China could destroy the US simply by responding to any US provocation. This in turn would result in a question of trumps response, which would be fully opposed by the American people. Although many rednecks would be willing to line up like a mcdonalds drive thru to die for their inbred uncle sam, the liberals are not so braindead and would try to impeach him assembling a team of warren, maddow, and protesters to remove him. This would provoke the biggest redneck vs black vs lgbt vs government showdown the world had ever seen! It would be a Chechnya a la gringo and the world would have the best entertainment ever, Americans ripping each other apart with all of their violence totally unleashed upon each other!
In that situation, White Protestant pro-Zionist Americans would win a Civil War against the Opposition (Liberals/hispanic/greens/drug gangs/ethnic minorities/Anarchists). White Trump-loving types have much more weapons and hunting culture etc and make up the majority of Armed Forces, importantly US Air Force is 99% white and would take out the ‘rebels’ quickly. USA location and demographics make it a very hard place to destroy unless Nuclear Bombs are used. The USA pentagon would love Putin to support a revolution attempt against them, because these McCain types could then use it as a justification for a full scale war against Russia. Putin knows what he is fighting against.
Since when is the US Air Force 99% white? When I was there it was about a third white. Among the officers, who need a university education, it was heavily dominated by whites, but not exclusively.
White is just a social construct created to oppress non-white races, who is white? Irish? Russian? German? Are Italian white? How about Japanese, they are as white as Scandinavians, are they white?
The term white is just a term used by white supremacist to oppress other groups of people
When I was in the air force it was about 90% white, I’m sure a lot has changed since the 1980s, but yeah, it was white back then
Probably not the air force is often mostly white, even in countries such as South Africa where whites are only 10%, the military does it best to get rid of whites, but there just isn’t enough competence among black south Africans to replace white pilots, why they just don’t train more black south Africans I don’t know.
“Lebone told the paper when the defence force started to get rid of whites to bring it into conformity with national demographics it could not have foreseen that new equipment would need people with experience or skills.”
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38027:sandf-reportedly-looking-for-more-white-recruits&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242
“Now that Trump has already comprehensively betrayed all his campaign promises ”
-This is just an outright lie, what about the TTIP?
America, the “MASTERBLASTER” from the movie “Thunderdome” a giant moron ridden on and directed by Twisted Jewish Dwarves ……..
Israel has 300+ NUKES — REFUSES inspections —- REFUSES to sign Non-ProliferationTreaty.
Israel HATES Christianity & GENTILES and denies the Spiritual and Human EQUALITY of NONJews to Jews.
Israel thinks GREATER ISRAEL should rule the World. “Greater Israel” is all land between the Nile and the Euphrates rivers, Syria, Jordan, most of Saudi Arabia. Greater Israel” requires the breaking up of the existing Arab states into small states. You can find maps they have drawn online. http://www.globalresearch.ca/g… Did you know what the two blue bands on their flag stand for? The Nile and the Euphrates. Israel (using the Gentile USA) is spreading chaos and fracturing all Civilization in the Peoples immediately around it in order to facilitate a land grab for “greater israel”.
Israel has “DUAL-citizens”(sayanim) whose true loyalty is to Israel, embedded throughout American government/society. According to the Zionist creed, Israel is the state of the Jews, all the Jews. Every Jew in the world belongs to Israel, even if temporarily residing somewhere else
If Israel could provoke nuclear apocalypse between America&Russia …..and China ….. BY WAY OF DECEPTION…. Israel would be the ONLY NUCLEAR ARMED SUPERPOWER left………
Especially if it SNEAK nuked many of It’s HATED/HISTORICAL “enemies” While they are bombing each other.(Germany, Poland, England, Egypt, Iraq, basically ALL gentiles should “bear the YOKE of Israel”)Noted Israeli military historian Martin Van Creveld stated that Israel could find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared, stressing that Israel also considers Europe a hostile target.
Does Israel have nuclear missiles aimed at the main world capitals?? — You bet.
Israel BRAGS about doing similar in Persia/Iran (75,000dead), Jews even CELEBRATE with Purim [slaughter of enemies] and Egypt(all the FIRST BORN CHILDREN)
David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948: “A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion’s strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo… And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers’ account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram” ………….. read that again
“and settle our forefathers’ account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram”
They are STILL HATING and planning deadly attacks after 3,500+ YEARS .
How do you think they feel about JESUS CHRIST whom they HATE most of ALL.
Israel’s MOTTOES:
(1) NEVER forgive & NEVER forget.
(2) By Way of Deception you will Do War.
(3) Their “god” is a WAR god
Exactly the opposite, the “red necks” are the real Americans that voted against Hillary and does not want a nuclear war, the liberals and minorities would clamp their hands with excitement if Trump started a conflict with Russia, as American cities burned in nuclear fire they would proclaim it to be the destruction of the white christian patriarchy.
My long hair just can’t cover up my “red neck”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3_qUDwF-Ns
And if you say I ain’t outlaw you …. well, just listen ;^)
Am I a “real American” ? hell no! I wouldn’t be caught dead …. son of a … “talkin’ ’bout my earrings and my hair!”
Okay, but let’s get serious, I live deep in the heart of Texas yet my birth family is full of “Santa Monica” liberals. How’s that for conflicted?
I was born here and I have no clue what a real “American” is, and you think you know? LOL
Actually, that LOL is for anyone (Saker) who thinks the situation is here has anything to do with “two americas” cuz you sure as hell don’t live here. It’s NOT that simple.
Promoting identity confusion is real popular in America, and W.Europe, who is American, What is an american? Who is a Sweden? What is a Swede?What is a christian? What is a man? What is a woman? Is there really anything? Can you be a man but feel like a woman? Can you be born in the body of a human but really be a chair? How can we really know? Oh, the world is so confusing! What is real? What is normal? there is nothing normal and nothing is real and everything is a social construct, oh my oh my.><
“Promoting identity confusion is real popular in America”
I totally agree.
It’s getting ridiculous.
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Just saw the French election, Macron and Le Penn won and most are saying Macron will win. Go figure!
It’s easy to forget that you get a “red neck” from spending the day out in the fields on your farm. In Texas, “red neck” means rural and, usually, conservative, Christan and armed.
Didn’t you hear? We thump our bibles with guns. Not that I’m actually Christian or anything … it’s complicated really.
Red necks o not want a war with white Russia, but eager to fight one with China. That is the conclusion you get after reading their their comments.
Rednecks/deplorable/none-liberals wants peace and don’t want anymore wars with anyone not China not Russia.
Yes, most deplorables are sort of pan-European conservatives that views Russia as the bastion of European civilization standing up to the wave of degenerate PC-fascist ideology washing in from the west. Many such as Marine Le Pen in France openly admire Putin and are funded by Russian banks.
War is the worst option: forget-it. The only reasonable option is to boycott the US $ and the Euro and for Russia and Iran to cut energy export to EU. Bankrupcy has to be forced on the US and the EU.
That would likely make USA/EU very miserable for a few years and Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other oil providers very happy. Then after a few years Russia and Iran would be largely replaced and Russia would have lost all influence its oil and gas gave over EU, EU would be totally in USA grip, nobody in EU would buy Russian gas and oil for a generation. Russia would lose money and influence, Saudiarabia and USA would gain money and influence.
EU would be miserable short term.
Russia would be poor long term.
Russia would be cut off from EU.
Saudiarabia would be rich.
Neocons and liberals in USA would be ecstatic.
The US makes about 20% of the world GDP but the USD makes about 60% of the international trades and all world central bank reserves.
All commodities in international trade are denominated in USD.
Such reality is mainly supported by US middle east policy and the petrodollar with Saudi Arabia & Emirates alliance.
It gives the US the right to just print money and buy commodities and goods for “free”.
Should the US stop such policy then the petrodollar ends. The USD economy would be crushed with it.
Nobody can change that fact. Neither Trump or anybody else.
That is why Bankers are the masters of the USD and the military industrial complex applies the bankers rules over the world.
The architecture of trade globalization is a built on the USD in a very unbalanced way.
Suffice to see the US trade defficit with China and China USD currency reserve based on nothing but paper and lines in computers.
Basically China is working as a slave country for the US for nothing else than debt and paper promise. Well, China is also absorbing the only true value they are after : know how and technology. When the system breaks the real value will be there and nowhere else.
The real and current situation is that everybody stand to lose if the “system” breaks.
The US economy would be crushed. The World economy would be crushed. All countries would be in a very deep crisis.
The sad reality is that the system as it is built is not viable. But a system collapse would be hell for everyone.
The question : can the system be reformed ?
The only way to bring change is to end USD status without collapsing the US economy (which would not be acceptable and would bring war and destruction) and find a way to transition smoothly over many years to another more balanced system.
Obviously Trump is not the one that will bring such change.
And the US oligarchy has no incentive to do so.
Due to current unbalanced world economy much power is in the hands of the bankers as they manage the books and the debts (guess what ? There is much debt and debtors are in the hands of their banks). Financiers can push buttons trigger crisis and send shock waves to would unsettle Trump of the presidency if necessary.
Should they end the voodoo economy then everything will go down the sinkhole.
Trump never said he will change anything regarding USD and has not created any momentum regarding such reform.
Trump has been from a start a reality tv star (surely that says something…) never up to the task, intellectually unprepared and with no enough relations in circle of powers to change sh×t.
China, Russia and their allies have now created an alternate banking/monetary architecture based on gold that has been recently completed. This can accommodate any number of nations and the transition would not be as onerous as you imagine. The main obstacle to this is the Jewish State in Palestine whose ruling families are the ultimate controllers of the present system. It is they who are actively seeking a world war in order to cover their tracks and start anew.
This means that in order to eliminate the present global fiat monetary and banking system, the critical financial dimension of the present world system, it will be necessary for the Jewish State to be destroyed. This possibility has only entered the minds of the Zionist oligarchy as a last resort suicide mission. They would, I believe, be willing to sacrifice their 6,ooo,ooo population to accomplish this in the final extremity.
Therefore, the present imbroglio in the Middle East will soon change into a full scale regional war with the deployment of nuclear weapons. Jerusalem and possibly Damascus will be destroyed. The mental and emotional impact of this destruction on the Jewish people, their Christian admirers and their other followers and dependants will bring about the end of that people, their religion and their long cherished dream of world domination.
It is this event that will prepare the way for the virtual conquest of the West by the East although this will be accomplished cooperatively and with a minimum of opposition since the nations of the East will be coming to the aid of the nations of the West at a time when their global monetary and banking system has collapsed and the lines of credit on which their economies depend have all dried up.
That’s not entirely true, the collapse of the USD, Euro, pond sterling, and so forth, would be very, very good for everyone, except for the Roth-child led bunch of unspeakable trash who issue it.
It’d also be very good for Americans because their evil slavedrivers would lose power, but they won’t be subsidized by the rest of the world any longer.
You’re right, Ashkenazi Satanist Trump bin Hitlery al-Ziobama is just the latest (Roth-child mob) cr-ISIS actor representing the most depraved Nazi tyranny in the world (since 1913, Fed, increasingly openly so since the 90s)
See Paul Craig Roberts’ – who has the guts to tell the truth, he’s invariably the best – latest article: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/20/freedom-democracy-tyranny/
Laika,
It would be stupid for the US 1% oligarchy to deny such power over the World.
It is a doom for the 99% who sees jobs leaving the country.
Obviously there is a deep rift between the 1% and the 99%.
That being said it is not politically possible nor practicable for an US politician to give up the USD power over the world.
Does someone see Trump or anyone go see Russia and China and request to give up the USD status to get a more balanced world ???
That s ridiculous lunacy.
No one give up power.
It needs to be grabed and fought for by others.
The US is doomed to continue on current path.
Other powers responsibility is to build up their independent system step by step and leverage their own interests.
Please stop your rant and insults regarding jews, arabs and so on.
The anglo empire has been built from the very start centuries ago by anglozionists.
First central bank in England. Then displaced in US.
The protestants olygarchy and the jewish oligarcy built it together through political ruthlessness, smartness, and with blood and wars.
That is legitimate and realpolitics.
People need to just stop whinning like cry baby.
And build their own life and country in the world as it is.
No, dead wrong, Anon. (whether you realize that or not). Besides, I’m not ranting about Jews, let alone Arabs, ever. I’m just stating the plain facts as decently as possible about a very organized ethnic mafia – aka (nowadays) Roth-child led Pharisaic Talmudism (and its ugly sister Saudi-Wahhabism), which horribly rapes and ruins the world esp. since the 17th c.
Also, your so-called ‘protestants’ are merely whores of this very depraved, two-faced, and organized crime syndicate.
It’s actually not unlike the Trump family. It seems to me Trump’s grandma was a solid German girl/woman – she also set up the building business – and his mother a solid Gaelic girl/woman. Both were merely tricked, used, giving the Trumps (still the same Roth-child Nazi/Trotskyite scum) even more two-facedness.
Essentially correct. Very simple view on this when central bank interest rates are below inflation rates real wealth is transferred from the 99.9% to the bankers (aka .1%). We currently are experiencing that transfer in a ever increasing way.
Since the invention of the British East India company (1600) those elite have sought to get commodities and labor at the cheapest costs by ‘robbing’ under developed nations. The East India eventually developed a militia to enforce their trade business.
The Baurers (aka ‘Red Shields’, Rothschilds) discovered lending to the national or sovereign level was lucrative and when combined essentially with the above was additionally lucrative. They funded wars. Wars that could also enhance and maintain profitable trade.
Collapse of this system is inevitable, however there would be a lot of ‘collateral damage’ to the world. Not everyone would make it. Collateral damage is a phrase used by bankers to indicate the damage (war) left to the sovereign nation (collateral).
Some things to read up for a view of world power today
Hofjuden – Baurer or Rothschild was a hofjuden. Why the name change ? Start here.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
The 1993 Holy See and Israel Agreement. Essential reading. Start here.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_Agreement_Between_the_Holy_See_and_the_State_of_Israel
There was a coup in America in 1963, from that point forward the president was essentially a figurehead, surrounded by handlers for all practical purposes. Voting for candidate D or R yields no long term difference since the Military Industrial Complex firmly established that control Nov 1963. No revolution, legislative or otherwise nominal change in the power structure has occurred in America since that day. If you view that America has been a military controlled state since then you can understand why it is the ‘war state’, and you can see the path of those in charge today.
If the western worlds interalpha banking system collapses it would eventually be better for the common man, but not everyone will make it through ( a lot of short term pain ) ask any Russian living through the mid 90s.
Laika
I am sorry, but to me, your post sounds like heinous rant.
The Anglo empire and the US benefited greatly from the jewish and protestant olegarchy alliance.
See today where the US stands.
A global empire which brought prosperity and power to US citizen for centuries.
As of the world population growth experienced in last century, that is only possible with western technology and energy coming from oil.
Sure there is today a systemic issue and rift between the 1% and the 99%.
But you cannot just wipe out centuries of benefit for the anglo populace and dominion.
Would you rather have a world on the model of China or Russia ?
China and russia can surely bring much to the global order.
But they need to do more homework first to be considered as a model.
Whether you like it or not the world is globalized now. And it will not cease to be due to technological progress.
Surely many things needs to be improved. But breaking everything is not the best way forward.
Neither is the artificial difference between communities you are pointing at.
Yes, one can ‘build’ a lot with brutal (wage) slavery (rat-race) and plunder. Besides, the real ‘prosperity’ in the US happened when they still mostly worked for themselves, instead of being slaves of a ruthless (foreign) mafia (the Fed 1913). Maybe you heard too much PC indoctrination (i.e. western ‘education’).
Your “rants” are fine by me, so far, Laika.
This idea that we have to “be practical” and submit to the fake One Eye US Dollar and its manipulators over the last 100 years and not bite the bullet and KILL that beast (politically of course) is just propitiatory twit brown-nosing impotence, in my book.
Thanks!
It is better to do house cleaning. Even for US as well as for other nations to start fresh and do things right for their nations without interference. Trump has a good idea, he is not being protectionist if he just starts clean and promote for America and trade unilaterally without interfering in the affairs of other nations.
you have too much hope. For now US are to brainwashed, most of them would go into war to “defend” their country even if they don’t like Trump. Ofc elite won’t but it would be bad PR for them to speek so (remenber US main style is the most pueril as they want to be seen tough at all cost…)
To make them back to earth US millitary need a failure, an official to conventional force. Guerilla style like vietman or irak would do also but with much less impact as they would call it “victory” before suffering the impact.
In any case China doesn’t need/want to push it as the time play into her favor for the moment. (each time that pass China have a better army and economy which make her a better remplacement for US…).
Her biggest flaw imo is her population who doesn’t benefit the same priviledge as the westerner does for now. And this would probably be poke as people are sometime easily corruptible..
Russia in other hand have the best military for now but this advantage might vanish in future, so she probably in a tougher spot. She seem to be working on her economy and diplomacy. Economy is tough as I don’t see her do better then China in near future. Diplomacy is probably a better card but she is not view as that reliable as that as she’s for now unable to defend properly her allies. (Cuba, Venezuala, Syria)
In that election there was no one candidate to vote for to offer any sane change of direction to the empire. Therefore the way for the people to vote to show that change is necessary was to not vote at all. If no candidate had received more than (say) 1% of the population’s vote, any policy, or indeed Govt, would be illegitimate because 99% of their democracy didn’t want any of them – An action Simple Simon had recommended at the time. But sanity & independence of thought don’t exist….so lets have more of the same….again and again and again….or, enough rope is available, go for it.
You missed the point ; this was about sending a clear signal. The message was received loud and clear ; the gloves are off.
Something has been awoken among the majority , and the minorities know it.
You might be correct. Their squeals are few DB above normal. And they try to get physical.
Saker, Trump was NEVER supposed to win the Presidency.
This is not a matter of conjecture or opinion. It can be verified by authenticated documentation.
The John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks are unequivocal.
The “deep” DNC and their amorphous “owners” plotted*, planned*, cheated* and possibly bribed) to steer, guide and direct both the DNC AND RNC primaries to deliver DJ Trump as the RNC candidate.
***(Wikileaks provides irrefutable evidence for these claims.
The DNC assigned Trump the role of a “Pied Piper” candidate.
He was supposed to lead the electorate to Hillary.
The DNC selected Trump because they perceived him as so “ridiculous” as a candidate, so comical, so absurd and unelectable, it made HRC the only viable candidate
(Again, all this is evidenced from Wikileaks).
HRC was anointed to be the first femalePresident of the United States of America.
Everyone who was anyone knew this.
The controlled corporate media new this, because their Puppet Masters, the owners of both the DNC AND RNC had signed off on it.
It was, as they say, a “done deal”.
Meanwhile, out on the campaign trail, things got a little less certain.
DJT, ever the egotistical celebrity, became conspicuously intoxicated with the exuberant rallies and the adrenalin of “winning”.
Whether Trump knew he’d been recruited to be the foil to HRC, or whether he believed he was the “rightful” candidate is not known, because the RNC emails have not (yet) been leaked.
Despite demonstrable and growing mass support for Trump among the HRC-disparaged (and self-identifying) “deplorables”, the controlled(owned) lugenpress continued to megaphone that HRC was winning.
And then something happened.
Something entirely unexpected, unscripted and something that despite all efforts, could not be controlled or concealed.
It was the most exquisite deus ex machina moment:
Hillary, attending a commemoration of the 9/11 mass murder
(or should we say a DeepState /[{~?celebration?~}]\) in NYC,
“suffered” a health melt-down and was hurled like a sack of potatoes into her customised ambulance/SVU.
And that is the precise moment the script was torn up and other forces and amorphous players entered the game.
There was a sea-change. It was palpable.
Like every 10-year old boy of his vintage DJ Trump had dreamed of one day growing up to be the President of the United States of America.
If he HAD previously agreed to a Faustian deal to be a faux candidate, he now reneged.
He rode the tumescent tide into the White House.
And all hell broke loose.
The seething, psychotic, incandescent anger from the Clintons, their media and their previously subterranean supporters supports the presumption that Trump reneged on whatever deal he may have struck with the Hill-devil.
Political contests are held all over the world all the time.
They are hard-fought and emotional, and mostly unethical. And candidates lose.
But just as you note, Saker; never has there been seen the vitriol, the violence and such an unrelenting crusade against the winner, as has been unleashed against DJT.
“Never Trump” became a casus belli “not my president”.
Right on the spot! I agree, Trump’s role was to make killary’s ride straight to the throne, yet, they missjudged common sense, cause she looks like satan himself, and such sickness one cannot hide.
Very good emphasis here. The unprecedented assault on Trump by the media throughout the campaign, not to mention the obvious methods being used to eliminate any consideration of other candidates, either Democratic or third party have shown to all the immensity of dislike the people have for current policies being forced upon the American people – I include both the Sanders following and the Stein supporters – notwithstanding their candidates’ lack of integrity at the last. Sure, Sanders and Stein both folded in the extreme, but their announced policies, just as Trump’s announced policies, were what people supported – and those were policies which any sane individual would support in the world at large!
Stein was advocating a return to New Deal policies which had given people within the US security and a way to defeat the oligarchs. So she said. Sanders was talking about needed jobs and the wealth disparity that has become so outrageous. Trump was talking about fighting terrorism and a better approach towards Russia.
The media put on a full out campaign of its own to bury these candidates, and the artificial rules of the campaign were all heavily weighted, and blatantly misused, to weed them out. Stein had to spend most of her energies simply waging individual battles to get on the ballot. And in the end the vote itself was so easily manipulated to push out any gains she might have achieved doing that.
So, yes, votes for Trump were tremendously important. Just as was the support for the other two. And at this point, I will tell you this: take no heed of polls! That’s the machine talking and it means nothing. The American people are stunned and ashamed of this sham government, which is not the government they voted for.
Right now a President usually wins by getting less than 30% of the vote in the US. First I don’t think you could convince most Americans to boycott an election. Second even if a President a lower number of votes. As long as they got more than their opponent,they win .Say if only 10% of people voted.And they got 6% and the opponent 4%,they would still get the “majority of votes” and that is what counts under this system.
Dear Uncle,
Ten percent of the eligible voters equates to only about 12 million votes per the tally of the 2016 presidential election. I think there would be a huge uproar in the country if the government tried to pass that off as a legitimate presidential election result.
There would be serious accusations across the board (e.g., voter miscounts, fraud, registration challenges, etc.). It would be catastrophic and it would be a blessing if it happened. I hope someday it does, too.
Yes, I agree.
The American people must end the lunacy of legitimizing the kakistocracy that is the destroyer of humanity.
Trump is a minority president in the sense that his political opponents are more powerful than his supporters. He is only in trouble because of policies to restore normal relations with Russia, abandon regime change, and balance international trade.
It is accurate to speak of “total chaos.” But are not the above better explanations than “incompetence, betrayals of his closest friends and allies,” etc.?
No, the Nazi bum Trump is a total fraud, and no doubt Flynn, Bannon, Roger Stone and all were in on it too. There’s no way they didn’t know that Trump was a Roth-child mobster, frontman.
See for instance this vid. at 31:00 about the Trump tower: https://youtu.be/m-F3FOkZsog
The only thing Trump did was to make perfectly clear that Pharisaic Talmudists (Satanists) are white-livered liars, betrayers, back-stabbers, totally incompatible savages, and comparable to schizophrenic psychopaths.
Ashkenazi (Semitic) satanic Roth-child Jews (seemingly wannabee whites at that) have mixed with Europeans, and some of them like Hitlery and Trump – therefore their biggest assets – look hardly Ashkenazi (Semitic) anymore.
I reckon Trump was the Roth-child mob’s desperate attempt – unprecedented since Roth-child bastard Adolf Hitler – to get the American people behind them again, make willing house negros (cannon fodder) of them.
It won’t work anymore (because of the internet), and is so far-fetched, counterproductive, and desperate, I didn’t even consider it, nor took the time to really look into Trump. There was no alternative anyway after Rand Paul was out (no doubt another objective), so I completely agree with The Saker’s analysis.
What do Trump and Clinton have one thing in common?
Their in-laws are zionists
Thank you, Saker, for a second valuable analysis this week, reflecting the comprehensiveness and intricacy of your understanding of this rather complex topic!! You speak to people’s hearts as well as to their intellect, and I appreciate that. Cold hard facts can just be a little… cold and hard sometimes.
Dear Saker,
1. The people who are saying “I told you so” are not suggesting that you should have or should not have voted for Trump. These people realize that Clinton was bought and paid for by the Empire. These people are only suggesting that the ones who voted for Trump were dreaming and hoping of something unrealistic, illogical and had nothing to base their hopes on.
2. The people who are saying “I told you so” realize and understand how the system works, and understand that the system cannot be changed from within the system itself….by voting.
3. The people who voted for Trump do not need to keep explaining why they voted for Trump…..It is obvious to anyone with a normal thinking mind that the people who voted for Trump felt they had no choice…it is understandable. In the end, the Americans who oppose the evil Empire (and even the ones who do not) are now all in the same boat whether they voted for Trump or not.
4. Finally, coming from an outsider (non-American), it is time for Americans to wake up from their dreams and foolishness and comprehend the disaster of a system they are living in. Find other and more constructive ways to defeat the system ;-) . Otherwise you will have to watch how your country devours itself alive.
good comment Harry – I guess its just such a shock – I myself totally fell for the lie – in this case – and now its an adjustment process to filter out all the hope and relief –
and now he does the worst thing he could possibly do – charge Julian Assange –
I hate Trump I hate his daughter I hate his soninlaw – I even threaten to hate his wife –
I feel so ripped off and I love Julian and I hope the world stands by Julian better than it stood by Bradley Manning.
Deep in the American Psyche is the knowledge that they can print money, and other countries must earn it.
Thanks Saker
The fact that Trump did a 180 in such short time surely must wake up many more people to the ‘ deep powers’ real leaders who have had their face masks pulled away and stand naked for every real American and the rest of the world to see. Every broken promise by Trump exposes them more.
The last decent US president was JFK who was murdered by the CIA acting on behalf of the Fed.
The last decent politician in Europe was Adolf Hitler and he and his people were murdered by world Jewry.
What’s not to like?
Interestingly JFK was an ardent admirer of Hitler if you read JFK’s diaries after his visit to Hitler’s favourite haunts in Germany.
JFK and Hitler both issued their own debt free currency, [the last attempt by any politician in the US or Europe…though Gaddafi tried it in Libya and got lynched], and both of them paid the ultimate price at the hands of the BIS and their national bank owning friends.
An interesting parallel most people don’t like to admit.
So what do you expect? You get Trump and Europe gets Merkel and May.
Whatever, everyone is getting mercilessly screwed by the usual suspects.
Happy Beltaine on April 30th through to May 1st for those of my persuasion!
what a weird comment this is ? You’re a Hitler fan ?
Read a little more about the man and you will see he was fighting against the zionist money system not the Jews 150,000 Jews fought for Germany in ww2 ,obviously you know the main stream media lies to us so use that logic and don’t take things at face value.
It is a good idea to understand how much “Western” backing Hitler enjoyed during his rise to power as a frame to make sense of his projects like Volkwagen (people’s car). The Kennedy, Bush elders and even IBM enthusiastically joined King Edward VIII in supporting Hitler’s regime.
Like Trumpty Dumbdy, Hitler was a charismatic, but emotionally fragile and damaged personality, easily manipulated, but prone to bouts of uncontrollable behaviour. Such self-absorbed sociopaths often inspire a strong cult following, complicating control, hence the need to get Dumb Donald hedged in by Deep State-approved minders ASAP after the inauguration. The ensuing First 100 Days flip-floppery and failure has disillusioned the no-more-war-MAGA support, Trumpmania is dead, and a lame duck is born.
The Rothschild/Deep State learned much in its WW2 maelstrom creation. The general public, not so much.
Hitler was possessed – there’s no other explanation for it – I have read alot about him and his effect on huge amounts of the population
Trump is nowhere near the deviousness of Hitler.
I can’t believe how people today confuse evil (Hitler) with nobility – its sick – you guys who think Hitler’s a cool dude – wake up you sillies – he was evil – pure evil – one face of the giganitic evil that abounds – but a very manipulative face – Hitler – a demon –
Hitler was essentially a failed personality picked up by the Empire occultocracy headquartered in London in order to be used to smash Russia/USSR.
Trump is a currently failing personality being used by the same forces, but not quite fully failed….YET.
As the pressure builds will he miraculously flip back to some strategic sanity and give up his stupid chocolate cake moves and other infantile nonsense??
I would not say “impossible”, because the world (including you and I who voted for him) need to play this hand out to the end, but I would say, at this point, highly, highly improbable.
Like Hitlery Ditlery Done, Humpty Trumptedy Dumb will almost certainly crack and never be “put back together again”.
But he was a useful wrecking ball knocking a few very bad other eggs off the wall in order to get there himself.
Trouble is, he’s very, very wobbly and not solidifying his base, without which he is a joke. .
So the current patriotic duty is to go after those disorienting him and making him so damned wobbly and subject to going “off the wall” while preparing his awakening base for what’s next, should he (most likely) “have a hard fall.” unless he attends the May “Belt and Road” Conference in Beijing.
That’s the kind of long, long, long shot “miracle” that might save Humpty Trumpty ( and a few billion people) from a very hard fall: Xi and Putin straightening the wobble of this bobble head.
May 14-15. About as “impossible” as Nov 8. Lots of work to make it happen, though.
“The world summit, “The Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation,” hosted by China, is now less than a month off. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi yesterday gave a preview to the international media, on the attendance, agenda and key concepts of the May 14-15 event in Beijing. Among the 110 nations participating, 28 will send their heads of state; the leaders of the United Nations and 59 other organizations will be there. Wang said–referring to Russia, Central Asia and China–that, what was once a “blueprint, is now a roadmap,” for this region. One day soon, this description should apply to the whole world, as the Schiller Institute’s World Land-Bridge has promoted for decades.
Conspicuously absent from this picture, are the United States, and other hold-outs centered in the North Atlantic. This reflects continued domination by the thinking, lies and dirty operations of the dead British Empire. But it needn’t be for long.”
https://larouchepac.com/20170419/may-summit-china-belt-and-road-blueprint-now-roadmap-cancel-british-system
When JFK wrote that ‘Hitler had in him the stuff of which legends are made,’
then that did not mean that JFK was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler, let alone of his crimes.
Think of Napoleon for that matter.
Also a criminal.
But if someone says something good of Napoleon, everybody understands that it doesn’t mean he is an admirer of his crimes.
@ Pirouette: For the JFK aspect, the best rational analysis of the remaining forensics and very odd actions of various agencies and officials I have seen seem to indicate the following:
1) Oswald was indeed a patsy, incited and set up by the CIA/Deep State to make a credible, but intended to fail, assassination attempt.
2) The kill shot came from the following Secret Service car, where an untrained and unprepared agent accidentally (the safety was OFF… DUH!!!) fired one round as the car jerked forward after Oswald’s shots. Unintended consequences are a bitch.
This explains all the extremely odd behaviour by the Secret Service etc. in trying to claim JFK’s body and obstructing any proper autopsy. The kill bullet, which would have confirmed the weapon, disappearing, along with other physical evidence pointing to the actual weapon location. The need to ensure Oswald’s silence, as the CIA chose him for being easy to manipulate and mislead, knew he would eventually slip up. Ruby? There is no question the CIA has connections to the mobs, the CIA-run drug production/smuggling operations in Afghanistan and Columbia leave no doubt.
So while the Zionist/CIA/Deep State was definitely working against JFK, just as they are against Trumpty Dumbdy, the JFK assassination was simply another false flag gone wrong. But the Zionist/CIA/Deep State got away with it, and so has been emboldened since to lie bigger and more brazenly.
And whether Mayer Amschel Rothschild actually openly admitted it or not, he and his descendants have deliberately made it their lifework to control the central banks/money supply of as many countries as possible, and demonstrably inciting the overthrow of monarchs/dictators/gov’ts that resisted Rothschild control. QED.
Yes, JKF’s silver-reserves backed “United States Notes” threatened to begin to reduce that FED (read Rothschild) money-supply control monopoly. I doubt the Rothschilds actually ordered his death, but certainly took pains to ensure the truth was never widely understood, and in true Disaster Capitalism fashion, took advantage of the aftermath.
I doubt the Rothschild Empire would encourage its minions to openly flaunt to incoming leaders the JFK killing as their potential fate… that would confirm the conspiracy, which has far greater power in the “mystery” than the facts. The Rothschilds have so much other capacity to manipulate and intimidate any errant leader, why risk exposing their complicity in an act that would turn 100% of the world against them? They have no compunction arranging wars and the deaths of minor “bad guy” players like Saddam and Gaddafi, but a kill a POTUS? Too big a risk, even for the Rothschilds… Threaten? Absolutely… hence the 9/11 Flight 93, postulated in the ZIOPress as intended to hit the White House or Capitol Building. But George W. Shrub was busy reading My Pet Goat in Florida, so Flight 93 was downed in a field “by heroes” (ignore those fighter jets behind the curtain, I AM OZ..) rather than being allowed to proceed.
What about Robert Kennedy? A false flag that has gone wrong too? I don’t think so. Every Kennedys’ death after JFk and Rfk is not accident as well. I think there might have been internal war between protestants and catholics for power.
Can you put some links up for your sources Mr anonymous especially about the plan to finance from plundering Europe as most of the autobahn’s and germanys success with six million put back into work had been achieved before 1936/7.Regards a very interested cave dweller.
Thank you for the analysis Saker.
Having spent a career working in local government in the United States, I see the country going through a process of discovery that I observed a few times at the local level. What I mean by this is that society will explore what we can call ‘soft options’ to achieve substantive change, until it finds out definitively that they do not work. This process of discovery is probably part of our human nature. Most of us who are not fully engaged in an issue, or who wish to avoid sudden and hard changes, will always try the path of incremental change. It is only when we finally admit that such small changes always fail to achieve the desired result, that the need for a major change is accepted and people are willing to work to implement it.
So it is at the national level. People voted for Trump because he was pitching a platform that was sufficiently different from Hillary Clinton and the Zio establishment, it offered hope for a change in direction. A return to a society that would offer opportunity and fairness rather than just empty rhetoric.
Due to his pathetic capitulation to the Zio establishment (in combination with factors two and three identified in your article), Trump’s near inevitable failure may well act as a clear and unmistakable message to the American majority that there is no chance whatever for soft, incremental change, through the existing political system, to accomplish anything positive for people who are not in the chosen 0.1%.
This failure will likely lead to a further hardening of boundaries between ‘progressive minorities’ and the real America. Should the 2020 see election of another ‘progressive minority’ Zio owned puppet, I see it as a very distinct probability that the United States will enter a period of violent internal conflict, with all semblance of remaining civil liberties being destroyed until such time the Zio regime is removed.
In short, we are standing at the threshold of a new phase in the struggle for America.
“In short, we are standing at the threshold of a new phase in the struggle for America.”
An obvious consequence of Trump’s about-face is that both sides have had their turn being betrayed. The “left” was betrayed by Obama, and now the “right” is waking up to the same pain.
However false is the divide between left & right, and however nuanced one’s distinctions between the various sub-groups within the two main groups, the reality is that the vast majority of the voting public has been in-your-face blatantly betrayed.
If the 2 sides, however subdivided, ever realize that they face the same enemy, an enemy that cares not a whit for either of them, and can find the will to act on it, America stands a chance of avoiding evolving into Orwell’s Oceania.
The first question is “Can they act?” The 2nd is “When?”. I’ve been saying for years that they can, but will not move until the enemy makes an outrageous blunder.
I’m getting the sense that the people swarming the Trump administration, the Kushners, the McMasters, the Mattis’, and the rest may just be the group to pull that off.
I respect the Saker and never doubt his sincerity. His analyses of Russia’s political and military strengths and strategies are often novel, illuminating and deep. I agree that the issue of nuclear annihilation is the major issue facing us and that all other issues should be subordinated to it.
But insofar as American politics is concerned, he remains a bit of an insensitive ignoramus who seems to support nationalism irrespective of whatever racist proto-fascist pro-corporate civil-rights destroying agenda accompanies it. His support for Steve Bannan
This comment was intercepted by the mods. I took a look at it and then I saw that claim that I support Steve Bannon. Either the authors has major reading difficulties or he does not care about the truth. Either way, I am trashing the rest of his comment as anything coming after such a stupid and demonstratively false claim deserves to be trashed.
The Saker
Good catch Saker. Zionist trolls lurk everywhere. It is clear your understanding of the political situation in America is so spot on that it raises alarm in certain circles. The truth is that Trump has succeeded in destroying the regular Republican dwarfs pretending to the throne and in doing so forced the deep state forces closer to the surface. His betrayal of all campaign promises could not be more instructive, but American voters are left now with few options in the political arena as the landscape is decidedly abstract. If, as other commenters have noted, the sad reality the change cannot happen from within persists the future is dim for the good ole USA.
I apologize for my careless reading of your prior remarks about Bannon. I had blurred it with other commentary posted on your site. I take this as representing your position: /a-multi-level-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/comment-page-3/
“The worst aspect of this clusterf**k is how utterly immoral this makes Trump appear. Think of it – first Trump abjectly betrayed Flynn. Then he betrayed Bannon. [Sidebar: I mostly liked Flynn. I had no use for Bannon at all. But the fact is that they were not my best friends, they were Trump’s best friends. …”
That said, it is a shame that you deleted the rest of my criticism of your position as I stand by it; it is accurate, but not worth the time and energy required to regenerate it except to say this is why you are dead wrong about Gorsuch:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/neil_gorsuch_and_the_deconstruction_of_the_administrative_state_20170326
Discussion on Truthdig 44 comments
Marjorie Cohn: Neil Gorsuch and the Deconstruction of the Administrative State
M Green a month ago
Alphonse Maddin, a black man who drives a truck whose trailer brakes don’t work is freezing to death with signs of hypothermia on a deserted highway while his company fails to send help and demands that he stay with his haul. To save his life he detaches the trailer and drives the cab to safety, and is fired contrary to OSHA regulations. Ever the protector of corporate interests, Judge Neil Gorsuch was the sole dissenting vote upholding the termination. Ms. Cohn emphasizes that Gorsuch failed to uphold the Chevron Deference that requires judges to defer to agency judgments unless they are patently unreasonable, but the issue is more elemental and fundamental: Gorsuch refused even to recognize Maddin’s plight and instead denied it by distorting the -27 F as merely “cold weather” and his staying in place despite the hypothermia that put his life at risk as simply an “unpleasant option.” This example reveals Gorsuch as a rigid corporate ideologue with no heart who will deny human reality in the service of corporate interests. This is what makes him unfit for the Supreme Court.
Certainly you have a right to censor every comment that you don’t agree with, what is more reasonable then seeing someone express and opinion, and then instead of countering it, you censoring it?
and anonymous doesn’t even have the guts to use a name – go find another site okay ?- you’re not welcome here as far as I’m concerned – getting in your little jabs as an unidentifable – hahahahaha
what a coward
@ Anonymous: This to clarify any confusion about where we all are. Perhaps more bluntly than our always-polite Saker (he may end up an honorary Canadian for being too much so) would put forward himself, but it needs to be said.
This is Saker’s house, and we are guests.
He runs a “public house” with full understanding of the implications, but that does not mean anything goes. So posters can either abide by the generous limits clearly stated, or find some other house to haunt.
And while I don’t always agree with Saker’s positions, I feel overall I get a more-than-fair chance at rebuttal and rational reading from moderation staff. If you find a better site in that regard, go there. Otherwise leave the floor open here for thoughtful and sincere comments. Less noise means more signal. The Cafe awaits those who wish a free-er range of discussion and with the patience to wade through a small sample of what the mods must face. The mods deserve a medal if the cafe is any indication.
I think the Saker mod staff is coming to the realization of just how “subtle” the Deep State/Zio-trolls are, and it makes for a difficult line to tread. I believe I recognize professional operative “voices” I have crossed paths with elsewhere, and they are destructive and dangerous. As the post volume rises on the entire site, there is a notable increase in artfully “confused” posts that I would have relegated to the bit-bin, but they are published, probably to err on the side of less censorship. Which is why several “regulars” and many hit-and-run artists are lucky I’m not a Mod… and I’m sure feelings are mutual.
So my advice to genuine commenters, before hitting “Post a comment”, look for the hallmarks of content for a good post. Originality, veracity, on-topic and non-personal language (I do try for brevity, but seldom accomplish it, sorry. Avoid Me-too (reiterating what was said in the main article) posts.
And so it goes.
As a matter of fact, I do. This blog is my blog, I am the host and I invite whoever I want and I set the rules. In this case, somebody grossly misrepresenting my views on Bannon got “censored” under rule #3 of the moderation guidelines (/moderation-policy/) “Any comment designed to make me angry will make me angry and will be removed in anger.
Look, if he had written that I was sympathetic to Flynn, I would not have reacted that way. But Bannon?! This guy is a hardline Papist and a rabid Islamophobe. I also find him unsophisticated, even primitive. I have ZERO use for the kind of pseudo-Christianity Bannon represents. Mind you, I also did not like Flynn’s Iran and China bashing, but at least he also said some good things. But Bannon?
So yes, I will (sometimes) take the time to counter an opinion. But lies I “censor” under rule #5: Any comment deliberately and grossly mis-representing what I write will be immediately removed. I shall not answer any “straw man” arguments.
Which is very reasonable, I think.
But if you want true free speech, then Ron Unz’ “Unz Review” (http://www.unz.com/) is the place to go. Ron allows everything. I admire him for that, he is a true defender of free speech, even lies, insults and other nasty attacks directed against him personally. But I am not like him. I began like him, but then I ran into such a shitstorm of dishonesty, stupidity, misrepresentation, trolling, etc. etc. etc. that I felt that a minimum of order had to be restored. I never regretted that decision.
Cheers,
The Saker
Yes, Trump is totally ignoring his base now, I think because he only sees crisis ahead of him. He’s surrounded by Bush Jnr types who when faced with similar circumstances cut taxes, spent big and went to war.
Should Russia/China/Iran preempt his obvious move and finish off the takfiris in Syria ASAP? The status quo clearly leaves the door open for the ziocons.
The good guys are winning in Syria but it’s a hard slog due to lack of manpower. A troop surge chiefly sponsored by Iran could put an end to any number of pockets and collapse defensive lines held by the ziocons.
We know these people won’t ever stop coming up with ways to turn the tide in their favor for which TIME is the essential commodity… you know they would have doubled down themselves after Aleppo if it were them.
I have no idea why putting just enough troops in to grind out a win over a long period of time is better than ending things quickly at this juncture.
Can anyone explain?
There are no “good” guys in Syria (except Russians). But in comparison with religious (or pretending to be religious) nuts Assad is certifiably better. My concern there is that Russia is in bad sit. there. Assad can win only by allowing Qatari pipe to the Med, but it will spell huge economic calamity for Russia: it will steal the only substantial market they have. And he cannot win by killing clowns. There is inexhaustible supply of them in both flesh and money.
Saker:
Your sober analysis here speaks to me and to real politics and is one that almost word for word is what I have been saying since Trump fell off the wagon and betrayed us. What people forget is that the only way left for Americans to defeat Hillary was to vote her out by voting Trump in period. Having repeatedly made that argument in the run up to election day, I have no regrets now and would do exactly same thing today given the same circumstances. I challenge all those that now say “I told you so” to offer a viable workable alternative or take a hike. (Both Sanders and Stein have since proved themselves to be neo liberal neocon fakes and not voting at all was a total cop out). The real questions that remain is what practical things can we now do to impose the will of the majority of people on our deep state dictators so as to bring about real change and world peace. Anything else “my friend” is just “Blowing in the Wind”.
If you want to bring peaceful change, stop working for the destruction of the USA and the world. As long as enough people produce weapons, manage troops’ logistics and fund wars there won’t be any noticeable change in foreign policy. At the very least, use anti-terror legislation and international law to interdict IRS and the government the abuse of your taxes for criminal purposes.
It is as simple as it gets.
I shall add that most earnings in the USA do not qualify as income and, hence, are not taxable. Read the book “Cracking the code” summarized in the short film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRCxUf_jI_w
I’ll just say again that both the Sanders supporters and the Stein supporters performed the useful tasks of supporting policy, and ought not to be rejected by the pragmatists who supported Trump but rather included in the general anti-regime body of citizens. This isn’t a time for division and one-upmanship – the regime will love that. I’m very tired of the theme ‘we knew better than you’ when it comes to such decisions, because we looked at policy – the Trump voters, Sanders supporters, and Stein voters as well. What our candidates then did after the fact is not what we chose them to do! Had it been, Hillary would have won with all those sheepish Sanders voters following him into the bullpen – they didn’t.
This is important because the power of leadership is very much diminished without the support of the people on the issue of policy. This election made that very clear.
With Clinton, the battleground was Syria and Ukraine.
With Trump, the battleground is only Syria.
And he’s got a real dilemma for himself.
ISIS is moving HQ to Deir ez Zor, as Assad has charged.
All along, we have seen the US assist ISIS in this locale. First, bombing Syrian forces last year (also killing Russians) and later moving thousands of ISIS from Raqqa and Mosul to force enormous SAA resources to come away from Homs, Hama and Aleppo to save the airbase and the city.
What this means for Trump is the US command is divided. Trump wants ISIS defeated, and the Deep State/IC wants Assad out. The two are incompatible.
The war will go longer and not well for Trump if winning Raqqa is meaningless.
Depriving the Caliphate Raqqa is PR. It is not decisive militarily.
As the summer draws near and long and nothing significant is gained by the Kurds taking Raqqa from ISIS, Trump has no victory.
The Russians will have to devise an Aleppo-like campaign for Deir ez-Zor. They helped with massive bombings in the earlier and present battles. More will have to be done. Meanwhile, the massive relocation of ISIS is incomprehensible to any rational person. How can the mighty US military not be able to stop it, each citizen has asked since the 2300 Humvees were taken in Iraq and thousands of Toyota pickups were caravanned across the highways for four years now?
This is on Trump. It’s his war against ISIS. Mattis can posture and call Iran and Assad names. But his vast military can’t fight in the open desert despite the availability of thousands of aircraft, missiles and drones.
The war against the Hegemon is in Syria. It will be decisive for the global community, humanity. Russia, Iran and Syria (with some extra help from China who sees clearly where best to provide assistance) will defeat the proxies, al Nusra and ISIS and the ragtag rebels of AQ/CIA origins.
Waiting in Ukraine is the final push to oblivion of the nazi-Deep State Ukraine military. When they launch their attack, Russia will provide what it had in three other boilers in 2014-2015. But this time, no Minsk interruption, no Merkel or Trump or NATO timeout. Yet, that will be a sideshow compared to Syria.
Syria has been the great geopolitical theatre which Russia and Iran cannot lose, for existential reasons. It’s not a war of assistance or rescue. It’s for defense of their own nations.
The US has chosen it, designed it and is close to losing it.
It is just a question of how much intensity the Pentagon feels it can take. How many US men KIA and wounded, and how much force the Russians will deploy to destroy all the proxies and wither away the vassal stooges from Israel, Jordan and the Sunni coalition?
Most of all Trump wants victory. How will he get it if ISIS is protected so obviously?
Watch for the Iraqi air force to join the Russians along the border and at Deir ez Zor. It may be in the cards soon. The eastern border has been US controlled. But that will soon be challenged. A S400 unit placed in Palmyra would cover all the rest of Syria. We may see that eventually if the US keeps interfering.
Trump wants to defeat ISIS.
Russia and Iran must defeat the Hegemon (his vassals and proxies).
That is what Syria is all about.
It would have been a total war with Clinton.
With Trump, it’s just another American blunder and military defeat waiting for the ghost of General Giap to send “tanks through the embassy gates”.
The US will be leaving and throwing helos off the ships (so to speak).
The prob. for Russia (as I see it) is that war in Ukraine is easily winnable (proximity, land access, mostly non-hostile pop, total domestic support for kicking banderistas, etc.) The war in Syria is much more uncertain for the same reasons.
@Larch
I agree with just about everything you are saying, but I am not sure about Trump vs ISIS.
I also think, that Russians might have to send in a brigade of real soldiers to “break the camel’s back”.
Otherwise to add to other discussions about the elections in the US, I believe that “in all elections fewer than 50% of the allowed voters actually voted”. This means that “not my president” actually applied to all recent president.
Larch…check site x22report.com dated 4/20/17 and 4/21/17 regard PDJT DOMESTIC& FOREIGN policies.
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LInk to the articles?
Usually excellent analyses from Larchmonter, but not this:
“Depriving the Caliphate [from keeping] Raqqa is PR. It is not decisive militarily.”
Raqqa is important.
The big reason is that Qatar wants to run a pipeline straight through eastern Syria to Turkey. If the moderate head-choppers keep Raqqa, then Qatar could get the pipeline they paid the terrorists for.
Also, and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but ISIS in possession of Raqqa means that ISIS still has the possibility to work on both sides of the Syria-Iraq border, and to send men and material wherever they want. These considerations are 100% military.
In the short run, eastern Syria is less important militarily for Syria because their population is almost entirely in the west. But in the medium term, ISIS needs to be finally defeated in both Syria and Iraq or this nasty Islamic heresy could spring back to life. When Qatar finally abandons the idea of getting their pipeline through Syria, the al-Thani gang will greatly reduce their financial support for ISIS. In the long term, the Salafist heresy has to be confronted and defeated, and the Sunnis of Iraq need to be reintegrated into Iraq.
At best his election bought peace a few more months.
His sign is Mars and it was ascendant throughout last year with it falling retrograde only after his win and now it goes direct again. War comes.
He follows the white horse al-buraq.
He is the heir to the white horse fortune earnt on the dead horse trail.
And peace is taken from the earth.
Does anyone remember Mitt and his challenging al-buraq Obama. Mitt and his gang thought Mitt was the real white horse but al-buraq had been chosen before time began.
Why limit enquiry to Islamic and Christian eschatology.?
Agni stands primed for his day like the sun.
And others come to the fray for from Sirte he comes filled with the flesh of dead men.
I hope I am wrong. If I could have I would have voted for him. I hope he can reign in the war machine. I hope he still is the man I saw grab his new wife’s butt as he entered a lift chased by a media throng and declare…no cellulite.!
Please Donald reverse out of the snare set for you by that devil Obama.
And with regards etymology Donald means world ruler, Vladamir means bringer of world peace.
The contest begins.
Thank you Saker for putting all this into words – and so powerfully and so well. I agree completely with all your points.
What remains is to watch and see how Trump gets along over time. He may be able to recover some of what formerly appeared to be independence. Or he may not.
But either way, from his thrashing about in his actions and reactions, we will continue to see more true colors irretrievably revealed by institutions and vested interests, and to learn more about the relative strength and weakness of the zio parasite ruling this nation, versus the ordinary people and players aspiring patriotically to redeem it along its nominal constitutional lines.
Saker, I looked into the rumors about Serbia and they’re not rumors. They’re Hillary’s brags. Not only did she tell her press entourage about her phone call, but right after the bombing began, she got up on a stage somewhere in Africa and said that “my husband and I” would not allow Kosovo to remain in Serbia.
Thanks for the confirmation
The Saker
With regards to Trump, I can only say that he is doing the best he can to maintain the appearance of Empire, because that’s what the media and the clueless want — but it must be increasingly evident to the world that it’s all for show.
@Antaz-A
I am taking a strong opposite view to you. The very very best BEST way for Trump to UNITE the American people is for RF and/or PRC to attack. An external attack is the tried and true way of uniting a nation/people against a common foe.
One of the dudes best remembered for his “propaganda” knows what he is talking about.
Russia and China, with thousands of years of history behind them, and two current exceptional leaders, are responding the best way….. Walking carefully and carrying a big “stick”…..
They are focused on a once-in-a-millennium project, the new Silk Road – a massive infrastructure, economic and geo-political enterprise. If they can keep the neo-con/Atlanticist/Demons distracted for another 24- 36 months , they will have won.
THAT is why we are so close to WW3.
24-36 month is way too short. I think it is closer to ~10 years (for China). And for Russia…unfortunately it might be longer considering all their existing problems. And especially with active external interference.
I have to agree on most of these seven points. I voted for Trump after spending the previous 20 years as an active member of the Democratic Party — I was in that minority that defined the left wing of the party. After the DNC stole the nomination for Hillary in the primaries it was clear to me that my efforts to reform the party from within was futile.
A vote for Trump was my way, and the way of many other Democrats to throw a wrench into the system. That is pretty crude with very few positive outcomes other than sending a message. I had no illusions that Trump would be able to deliver on his promises. But it was a way to vote against war with Russia, withdrawal from the ME and opposition to NATO. Now it is not often that one has an opportunity to express those opinions in a national referendum.
I have not voted in a presidential election since 2000. I did support Dennis Kucinich’s campaign in 2004, assuming (correctly, I think) that he was America’s last chance at forestalling catastrophe. While Trump talked about ‘making a deal’ with Russia, he also in the next breath, having made noises about no more regime changes, promised to increase the already bloated military budget.
My bottom line as a US citizen, is no more wars, and cut the military to the size that Smedley Butler recommended in his book War is a Racket. The only military the US needs is a National Guard and a Coast Guard, everything else is to inflict suffering and death in the name of Capitalism/Zionism/Imperialism. This seems so obvious to me, that voting for Trump was useless. Trump’s strategy was to follow Kissinger’s advice to split Russia off from China with sweet talk, while preparing for war, which Gen. Dunford essentially admitted in Congressional testimony, that the US was not ready for. That’s why Hillary was thrown overboard, and Trump was plan B.
As with Obama, he staged an act of war within a week of inauguration. So where was the Trump peace dividend?
As for not voting being a copout. That is criticizing a Sophie’s choice. Respected people like John Pilger said, there was no one to vote for.
Not voting for death by poison or death by firing squad is not a copout. It is sanity.
Fact is, as we all agree here, the US is on the road to ruin, one way or another. 200 years of inflicting suffering is seeing Divine or Karmic Blowback, whether one things in Abrahamic or Hindu or Buddhist or Confucian or Daoist eschatology.
In the end, who cares who is right or wrong in one’s assessment of the Trump administration before and/or after the election? The end result is what we have, terminal Empire. Whether the world or what is called the USA survives it is the question that only time will tell.
@”statement made by Hillary Clinton in early December of 2012″
Already in 1992 a Pentagon plan declared:
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.
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First, the U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests.
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access to vital raw materials, primarily Persian Gulf oil”
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/08/world/excerpts-from-pentagon-s-plan-prevent-the-re-emergence-of-a-new-rival.html
In 2009 the EU think tank ISS announced the current war against Russia:
“Hard power politics – Clausewitzian influence over alienated state regimes. Some alien-ated regimes will still exist in 2020 – the key uncertainty here being the Kremlin. If so, we will need to retain a capability to meet their deliberate challenges to our vision of the world. This will require hard military power, but also an increased focus on asymmetrical forms of destruction, notably in the cybersphere. This is of major concern to the East-ern members of the EU, and if the ESDP is unable to provide this then they will turn to NATO or directly to the US.”
http://www.iss.europa.eu/uploads/media/What_ambitions_for_European_defence_in_2020.pdf
Doncha just LOVE this sentence:
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convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests.
…. “they” actually acknowledge that others may have “legitimate” interests…
But never admit Zionist/Deep State/Rothschild interests are illegitimate…
The emerging power that Clinton was talking about should be in fact China not Russia. It is China who is building around the world. Ironically, Western aggression is rather strong towards Russia even before Russia got involved in Syria. What is more, China hardly gets involved to counter Western agression by becoming a by-stander nor has any views on against attack on other nations. For instance, the U.S as it is its nature, is competing with china, it follows where China is and attacks these weak nations such as Libya, Yemen and other nations covertly where china has been. China runs away quickly while these nations are attacked. Where does china stand? Is it not better for these nations not to invite china so that they dont get attacked by U.S?
Our Saker wrote, “I submit that we all, every one of us, has a moral duty to do everything we can to avoid it and to make it less likely, even if we can only act at the margins.”
I’m doing my part to perform a moral duty as implored by Saker by rejecting the failed process of participating in the “republican” form of government altogether, that is the delusion the people decide for themselves how they are to be governed. There are few candidates/incumbent for the U.S. Congress or the Executive Branch who hold the people’s trust paramount to their own personal agenda. Fair elections do not exist; it has become a travesty of vile corruption, growing worse and worse every cycle. Washington, DC is a house festering with the poison of avarice and self-aggrandizement. It is biblically sinful in every way.
Half of the voters chose President Trump, half voted for Clinton. Who were the real losers? The entire country lost, because the militarists are still in control of American foreign policy and Wall Street and multinational corporations are still in control of the domestic economy to enrich themselves at the expense of the people. Nothing changed for the better and to suggest that global war has been avoided based upon a comparison of Trump v. Clinton personalities, attitudes and practices is an erroneous prognostication. Neither of the candidates can stop the Pentagon war machine anymore than Emperor Hirohito could stop the generals of the Imperial Japanese Army during the run up to World War II.
To embrace the act of selecting the “lesser of two evils” is to surrender to the system that has been created by lies and deceit to make the electorate believe they are engaging in the democratic process. Many people know they are being duped yet still go through the motions of voting.
Nothing will ever change in America until the citizenry stay home on November 8 of an election year. Stop doing what the elitists want you to do which is to legally give them the scepter of power over you. No violent civil war is needed, just end the madness of legitimizing iniquity. If you don’t vote they cannot assume the authority to rule your life and kill other humans in far away lands in your name.
People are afraid to even consider what will happen if the majority of the electorate say, “no more”. I assure you the sun will come up over the eastern horizon the next day, the air will be just as breathable as before and you will still be alive, perhaps more so than ever.
Saint Paul spread the word of Christ and his sacrifice for all who believed in his message. We in this time, must make a sacrifice to not continue down the path to darkness.
Amen to your words !
Absolutely agree with my Christian brother here.
The American people have to stop repeating this madness over and over and over again for the sake of themselves and the entire world.
To vote is to legitimize a very corrupt and evil process which is destroying society and other nations all around the world.
If the American people do not rise up in insurrection and secession, you will continue to legitimize this evil on you.
We already said “I told you so” about Trump, do not less tell you “I told you so” about your country and people being destroyed, your rights taken and your children’s future become raped.
It is hard to believe the polls anymore as well as the voting machine and the electorate. The people can’t control those. What is the probability that every two candidates being very close to eachother in their numbers? Why is it that all of the sudden the establishment’s favorite candidates number shoots up at first while the other candidates struggle hard to reach the favorite candidate and eventually become neck and neck with the second chosen candidate? This same thing that happened between Trump and Clinton is happening with the French election between Macron and Le Pen. The probability of similar event in election must be random and can’t be similar. This means there is manipulation in the polls.
Pence is in Australia after doing the Pacific tour.
He’s the goto man — Cheney 2.0
Trump is a buffoon — but agree a less worse option than the Clinton machine (although I think its the same machine in reality) …. along the lines of Ford’s “you can have any color as long as its black’.
And the best model of the current USA situation I’ve found is that of Henry Ford as explained in the Max Keiser report Episode 1058 (“Max interviews Chris Whalen, author of the new book, Ford Men: From Inspiration to Enterprise, about the myth that is the legend called Henry Ford.”)
[click into 15:28]
https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/384847-episode-max-keiser-1058/
They’ve got Ronald McDonald — that queer looking clown with female hips selling crap meat products for a prime real estate empire — fronting a vicious cabal of vested interests that are not governing for the people etc.
At least with Trump in the White House, Bill is not cavorting in the Lincoln Bedroom with whomever!
OMG – I never made the connection – that’s very good – I wonder if there’s anything in this ?-
donald the ronald mcdonald – wow –
I bet trump does hold lots of stock in McDonalds –
Saker: I am a bit stunned that you cannot see that “Trump” is a bumbling puppet. He is at least 2 or 3 degrees away from those who use him. One can call it whatever: The Deep State, Shadow Government, Un-Elected Technocrats, Military- Industrial- Congressional, Complex…there are literally hundreds of self-appointed Psychopathic groups swarming with neo-con Psychopaths who lust for war. And they, being soft, puffy half-men cowards who send thousands–nay!-millions to their death! Trump-Shmump! He’s turning over all his powers to “experts” and has never understood Constitutional War making Powers(Obama understood them and simply ignored them because Congress is Gutless). My take? He is on meds and will melt away like a wicked dumb-ass warlock. I really like just about everything you write, man! And you dig Miles! But this piece?
(The all cap sections were edited. Its against the blog rules.Please find another way to make your point.MOD)
When you say he (Trump) is on meds, i hooe it is not true but he has been either incorrect or (they) are not letting him on the details of the foreign policy after the coup; he said the U.S war ships were heading towards N. Korea but the ship was seen heading towards Australia. He was discussing the current war regarding the chemical attack as if it was in Iraq until the reporter corrected him it is in Syria. This is according to RT.
I agree that Hillary was the one who told Billy boy to bomb my country. However Mara Korbelova
(better known as Madeleine Albright) is the one who (to me) influenced Hillary. In between these two I believe that Mara is a more lethal one-pure evil.
Yea, sure. As they used to say in Russia back in 19-th century: “Czar is good, buy his ministers are real villains”
I don’t really know why this article was written.
There are other things going on that have not been discussed and addressed – particularly Turkey and it’s ongoing flip flops on Syria
And the drum beat for war in Syria led by UK France and the USA based on the chemical weapons false flag.
As soon as Trump was elected and started to fill his cabinet with generals and neo cons it was obvious which way it would go.
This article was shows there is still denial of this fact.
Trump is a dangerous warmonger surrounded by warmongers
and you’re one of the ‘I told you so’s
I disagree with your comment about choosing a Black or Latino “genderfluid” is worst than Gorsuch. Gorsuch is in the pocket of Wall Street Zionist, and will do their bidding. Sonia Soto Mayor, Supreme Court Justice, cannot be considered in the pockets of Wall Street. Gorsuch will be worst than Scalia.
I agree with saker except that I think the situation is more fluid, more hopeful of more flip flops than he and commentors indicate in these 26 comments here.
Flips back in the direction of sanity….but only as pressure builds on leading people like Donald all the way down to the average American.
Why are so many so weak? Unlike AIPAC, the neocons and the flailing, failing MSM (who are still intensely focused on being very well paid slaves and prostitutes) the millions of Deplorables are quite unfocused, disorganized,,,,,,but learning fast! Fast enough? Doubtful! But possible, as the rate of change itself, so visible in 2016 is ITSELF subject to change.
Acceleration of change. More a part of nature than linear, change whose rate never changes!
There are things that aren’t fixed, you know.
Trump during the election was a good ole crane wielding a nice big wrecking ball. And the damage was a pure joy to behold. In his recent interview linked below Robert David Steele repeats 4-5 times the formulation, “No matter what happens, I will still go to my grave eternally grateful and thanking Donald Trump for stopping Hillary Clinton.”
https://youtu.be/8UfYLA7FCqQ
However, due to his past history in NYC and his association with Roy Cohn, lawyer for Senator Joseph McCarthy (“I have a list!”…..Red Scare buffoon ) and a dispicable, evil human being, I had no enthusiasm for voting at all, a couple of weeks before the election.
active patriot’s posting (right here in the vineyard) about a month before the election of FBI anon’s stuff on 4 chan rallying the grass roots against the Clinton Foundation got me intrigued with stopping the witch.
The Podesta e-mails and the visible depression of Clinton supporters I know, was further blood in the water.
But what got me to the polls was a group of rowdy, feisty, unapologetic blacks on a big front porch in San Bernardino a week before the election. They were all for Trump. I picked up similar signs of mind control breaking down among hispanics, and I began to feel a little more hope for this country!
Anyway, in the link above Steele says he and Cynthia McKinney have just formed a new PAC which will rally the base that Trump has dumped, without which, says Steele, Trump has to realize “he is nothing”. And they are giving him til May 1 to come to his senses and honor his promises, or they will help bring him down.
They may have to grow 50-100-1000 times. Like Trump did. But Steele is more savvy and McKinney is more courageous and appealing than the Donald will ever be.
Things can change. But they have to be made to change, and not be watched changing too slowly.
I heard that guy Robert Steele isn’t to be trusted – watch out Cynthia –
He ran for president in 2008 in a party that no one has heard of – something to do with all that is the reason that he’s not to be trusted –
just heard it through the grape vine –
Ann, you might be right. I don’t know Steele that well at all, but can we assume that Cynthia is no “babe in the woods” and might know him a little better than either you or I do??? Ummm????
Plenty of videos of him on you tube, so you and I and the whole world don’t have to take the word of some anonymous person “on the grapevine” who whispered suspicions in your ear.
And they’re “to be trusted”??? Give me a friggin break, Ann! We don’t even know their name, much less how to check them out on dozens of you tube videos!!
What do we know about them? We know they are doing NOTHING, most probably, except whispering in the shadows of “the grapevine” against others who are doing a great deal, out in the open!!!
So who’s gut guts and who’s guts are “full of it”???.
SO far I have watched several hours of Robert David Steele and have not yet run into anything that is the kiss of death for my interest in him. Quite the opposite, SO FAR. Your “grape vine” guy. WTF (w=where) is he or she????
Now, before you turn off in an ego rage, I have always liked your comments. They are generally fair, honest and well meaning. So hang in there.
I didn’t know Steve Bannon very well at all either, but when Larchmonter 445 said he was “the pale rider coming to destroy them” (The Deep State & MSM) I took a certain interest in finding out more about him. Watched an old video of him doing grass roots organizing in the hinterlands years ago, had never visited or known anything much about Breitbart News, etc,etc. Unlike Saker (who differs radically with L445 on Bannon, having no use for him whatsoever…..) I picked up some things that were positive, and some that really put me on guard. Some of his Catholic right wing apocalyptic world view, for example.
I regarded Bannon pretty much as Trump: A nice wrecking ball with which to demolish certain detestable edifices on the American political landscape. What he is for sure I may never know, because he may be done. His life expectancy in the administration appears to be short and his physical life expectancy may be even shorter. He looks very unhealthy.
So I’m moving on. I may never know whether Saker or L 445 was more accurate on Steve Bannon.
My point here is Method .
Whether people proceed rigorously, or by the seat of their pants.
A very great deal depends on mobilizing those Deplorables (like you and I…probably) that knew and still know that Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, John McCain etc were and will forever be absolute poison. for all of humanity.
Steele “not to be trusted”???. OK, maybe so. <b.Show me!!!! Then I’ll agree with you. Everybody pretending to lead goes under the microscope, including McKinney. Comes with the territory of political leadership. No problem! Bring on the microscope!!
But we have to have a better method than gossip to do the job halfway decently, IMHO of identifying and assisting in our more modest ways, such emerging leadership, should the Donald’s buffant hairdo, atop his body and head which slid into the Empire sewer, disappear beneath the brown stuff. Unless some miracle pulls him out PDQ.
Cheers!
well, mr ranter – the friend knows the guy personally and has lots of experience in politics -but doesn’t want to be identified – I was just warning you –
Like I said Ann, tell the :”friend” to come out of the shadows at least as much as you or I do and present his or her evidence or this “warning” is to be very lightly regarded if not ridiculed mercilessly…… and the METHOD— hunches, “feelings”, gossipy “freinds” who whisper in the shadows and won’t come out with what they know… all 100% useless in a time of crisis like this
Useless!!!!
What do you have mainly in human affairs, at this stage of our infancy, or at best, troubled adolescence????
Stupid ego-driven pissing contests, that’s what. Until your “friend” gets some guts and shows you and I what they’ve got on Steele or anyome else actually doing something I am (freindly ) warning you that your method (in this particular instance) is very, very, very weak.
And it’s important that many others, with weak, gossipy method up their game PFF!!!!
(Pretty F’ing Fast)
Don’t your “friend” and you and I owe our good friend Cynthia McKinney that much????
Ask your friend to respond, please.
Thanks for the link, interesting developments. McKinney could get huge support on the net these days — she’s super-intelligent, willing to look at “fringe” topics, and has a sense of humor, which is crucial. People are loaded up with depression these days, they don’t need more doom and gloom ’cause they’re everywhere you look.
As for Steele, I think he was a regular at the 2600 hacker conferences many years ago, so at the very least he’s got some interesting friends. If McKinney can use her allies and the net 1/10,0000th of what Trump did, she could go all kinds of places.
I didn’t like any of the ‘viable candidates’ of either Demo or Repulsive parties, so I voted for Stein. At least she wasn’t for killing other people. I live in the PNW so I hope we can make peace with North Korea. we have Bangor (nuclear subs) and Ft. Lewis next to me.
Trump was still the better choice. With HRC we would have had chaos in both Syria and Ukraine as soon as she was confirmed the next president and before even assuming office. Now the U.S. has their eyes set on North Korea and in an extreme case of regime change would actually benefit Russia and China but may wreak havoc on South Korea’s industry if the North invades. We know China will never allow a regime in North Korea that is hostile to them and the Americans know this as well. If a new Nork regime means lifting sanctions then it opens up new markets for Chinese companies and Russian gas as they will seek to modernise. So there is still no comparison, Trump was still the better choice.
I totally agree that Hillary is an evil freak from Hell that was thankfully defeated. However, that in itself is not a reason to encourage people to vote for a Republican. In order for a real ‘regime change’ to occur in the US, both the Democrat and Republican parties must be smashed out of existence and replaced with new political forces not controlled by Neocon financial oligarchs. We need to support the third party movement…
This defense of trump and his neocon-zionazi-nazi freakshow is getting rediculous. The only reason trump was a better choice than clinton is that he will not be able to garner the sort of free pass clinton would, people will actually stand up and object to the neocon ziosod. Other than their public image, clinton and trump are to same zionazi govno. This has been more than proved by Trump’s actions and words since his [s]election. With the tuppence regime, the govno is out there in plain sight, the Clinton freakshow would have used perfume and plastic flowers to disguise the pile.
The people who voted for this regime who are not themselves zionazi neocon fascist scum are actually very much a minority of it’s voters. Most who voted for Trump actually do agree with the extremism of this regime, as they likewise did that of it’s bush jr predecessor. These are the real brain dead sheeple.
The attacks on this woman are a very good representation of the sort of tuppence regime scum I am referring to here, from the faggot govenor to the faggot writing the letters. This is the tuppence regime actual base.
Noose in the Mail: Controversial Florida Attorney Gets Threatening Delivery
https://sputniknews.com/us/201704221052875481-florida-attorney-noose-mail/
vt – ‘I told you so’ stance –
And the country really wanted change – I don’t believe you when you say that most of the people who voted for him are still in love with him – now he’s got other followers – plus the awful ones that voted him in for his hunting philosophy – he’s betrayed the majority of the voters who believed in him
ronald mcdonald lied as much as obama did –
are we to condemn them before proven guilty ? like you do ?
Saker’s article is right on – the whole world now sees ronny boy for what he is –
I’m wondering if everyone voted for who they want, not who they don’t want – well…I guess Hillary would have won
its an easy place to be vt – when you’re just down on everyone and everything –
what DO you like ?
Did you vote – No – so now you are still on the fence
Good points Ann.
Although I do like extra vigilant Anti-ZioGay guards like Vot Tak. That service is needed!!
But, (agapically speaking, as always….) it is necessary to point out that fence sitting is neither politically potent nor physically healthy.
Warning: Excessive fence -sitting can lead to hemorrhoids!
Kudos for some pretty good Monday quarterbacking points.
I think the DNC, MSM and Establishment thought that by demonizing Trump and touting her so-called credentials and so-called advocate of ‘women’s rights’, voters – even if they didn’t like her- would regard and choose her as the lesser of two evils- whereas, in fact, they were so out of touch they didn’t realize how much people despised her and correctly tagged her as being a continuation of everything they recognized as antithetical to their interests.
However, on one point I think you are very wrong, i.e., when you say, “….Trump already got one more or less decent Supreme Court Justice in…” It’s not that Gorsuch is ‘conservative’, nor even that he is an insider who is so far right in his ideology that you can expect his decisions to be highly politicized- but, that he is one who sold his soul to Cheney-Bush criminal enterprise when, under Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, he worked on strategies for legitimizing (and also covering up) the Administration’s torture program- just as John Yoo, and Jay Bybee, and others had done, and not only got away with it, but have since thrived.
Thanks. I needed that. Good points
thanks Saker, great article – kind of licking wounds, but true nevertheless –
a big disappointment is an understatment
I never for a moment believed that Trump, a billionaire wheeler-dealer from the real-estate/casino/reality-TV sector, was going to do what he said he would during the election campaign – apart from the bit about tax cuts for businesses (like his own).
I didn’t believe in “Hope and Change” from the smooth-talking Chicago lawyer either.
I have long since realised that the Democratic and Republican Parties represent one and the same set of interests – the US Empire. They are just two teams of bought and paid for politicians, and their political battles are all a fake drama for the bought and paid for MSM.
But the Empire is crumbling fast – if you don’t believe me, look at this: http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/04/19/more%20and%20more.jpg
After 9 years of austerity and near-zero interest rates, where are the “green shoots”? Nowhere to be seen, as Central Banks are printing fiat currency like mad just to keep the world economy from imploding. Industrial companies are borrowing money to buy back their own shares – that’s how unprofitable they see real production as being.
Whether Trump was ignorant or not before he got his briefings on the terrible state of the empire, he soon realised that the only thing to do was double down on austerity and more fiat printing, exactly as the architects of the empire said.
And still it won’t work. The world will soon run out of financial “assets” for the Central Banks to buy. Without the extra liquidity they provide, share and bond prices will fall and interest rates will rise, making industry’s debt repayments impossible to service. There will be bankruptcies, then massive bankruptcies, factory closures, mass worker lay-offs, tax revenues will fall, pension funds will collapse, and we will have the biggest deflationary spiral the world has ever seen. Although not part of the Empire, China is the Empire’s factory, and will be sucked in the toilet too.
The Saker doesn’t seem to get this, and neither do the American voters. ‘It was OK to vote for Trump because he MIGHT have been telling the truth, even if it turned out he wasn’t.’ What ?!
There is NO solution to this problem. We have borrowed until we can borrow no more, and now we are going to have to admit total bankruptcy. It isn’t going to be pleasant.
We are going to fall back to a primitive civilisation for which we have no skills or experience, and no suitably primitive infrastructure to match (think horses and mules). The only saving grace is that the world’s wildlife will heave a huge sigh of relief that we are gone.
well, they just borrowed fake money from a fake bank – the fed will just forgive the debt if they have to keep the monster alive – that’s silly
Good points, Palloy. Almost universally ignored. However, not even Jill Stein could have run on such a campaign, even if she were aware of this, and I doubt that she really was. It is just a minority of the Greens who understand that financial collapse is baked into the cake–and by now you can basically stick a fork in it. (Ann, I would not be surprised by another round of prestidigitation, but Trump makes it less likely than before.) The majority still have hope in unicorn technologies to turn the ship around and ride triumphantly back through the rainbow.
In fact, Clinton and her gang may very well be aware of the terrible state of the Empire, and that made her all the more dangerous. When the economy fails, start a war like Japan did. But be sure to skip town when that goes south too.
I think those at the top are all aware of the imminent financial implosion, and have been for some time now. That’s why the policies haven’t changed, despite the party in power changing. Keep printing and buying to prop the markets up. Meanwhile keep the fear levels up, and keep sabre-rattling against the Empire’s enemies, so when the system is on the point of collapse, we can start on WW3 and switch to a war economy instantly.
A war economy is completely different to a peacetime economy. All dissidents can be locked up for spreading enemy propaganda, all unemployed youth can be forced off the streets and into the military, factories can be directed to produce war matériel, rationing of gasoline, diversion of ships and aircraft to military support tasks. The police are way over-armed for normal operations, but not for wartime. The mass surveillance system is way more than they need for peacetime, but will come in handy when national loyalty is important.
How could they not be ready for it? I’m sure they have it all planned out.
Good points but I have a very general issue with all financial doom predictions. Money is but an illusion: the biggest deception ever in my viewpoint. The entire world economy can run without a cent perfectly, if every participant delivers his/her goods and services for free. Therefore, people will only be doomed if they insist on getting paid after the big bust. Insisting on getting fake, intrinsically worth-less money for trade will cause self-inflicted pain. It will be suicidal.
For the money masters, the self-appointed delusional masters of the Universe, a money-free economy is the worst outcome as it will cancel their power in its entirety. So, better don’t expect anything sane coming from the economic experts.
Best regards,
Marcel
I don’t believe you’ve thought that through properly. Can I have a Ferrari for free? Can the entire population of the world have Ferraris ? And gasoline for free too ?
No to both your questions. But everyone could get free transport as a service. In a sharing economy, you do not need to own a lot of stuff.
The owners of trump’s bum, and literally the bums of every other treasonous freak in that regime, ran another war criminal attack.
Israeli Warplanes Launch Missile Attack on Syrian Army in Quneitra – Source
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201704211052869570-israel-warplanes-syria-army/
There is an additional bonus, hopefully. Trumpet is the Jeltsin of USA and counterintuitively by his failures, hopefully will herald the rebirth of a new reinvigorated nation.
I agree with Saker’s analysis, there’s many good points and he laid them out clearly and succinctly.
I find it amusing that some of the posters are talking of not voting as a ‘protest’ or to ‘send a message’. I could not vote. Since I live in a ‘Russia occupied’ area US Embassy in Moscow refuses to even speak to what few expats are still in Krimu, if you contact them you are told to contact US Embassy in Ukraine, Kiev to be exact. Kiev stated that to get an absentee ballot said ballot had to be sent to your HOR, in other words the ‘Russian occupied’ area of ‘Ukraine’. The ballot had to be mailed to either Embassy in Ukraine or to your registered voting district in US from your HOR in the ‘Russian occupied’ area. There is of course no Ukraine mail service in the ‘occupied zone’ and Embassy in Ukraine knows this fact. According to my friend who contacted them the woman was actually laughing at him, ergo me, when she triumphantly informed him of this Catch 22.
In my opinion you are being foolish if you did not vote. In this election we did indeed have a clear choice between an uncompromising evil and someone who at least gave us a glimmer of hope of avoiding all out war. If you did not vote, or if you threw away your vote by casting it for a patently nonviable candidate, then you can not complain about the election results, good, bad or indifferent.
In this AO we greeted the election results with very cautious optimism, very cautious indeed. While many, including me, were not pleased with the massive and ongoing attacks on Mr. Trump from early in the election cycle to this very day, we did think that possibly he could do at least some of what he said in the campaign. As it turned out he was patently destroyed with two weeks of his oath of office and his statements and promises were not to be.
On the other hand I had no doubts that if Hillary Diane Rodham had been sworn in within 6 weeks we in this bucolic little city would have been greeted one fine day with swarms of cruise missiles appearing on the horizon. The entire catastrophe of the maidan coup d’etat was to wrest control of Krimu in general and Sevastopol in particular from Ukraine. He who controls Sevastopol controls the entire Black Sea. US/nato sitting in Sevastopol would have effective bottled up the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Novorossisk, surrounded on all sides with NATO bases in Sevastopol, Turkei, Gruzya and Bulgaria. American missiles would have dotted the entire landscape of this island and created a very serious threat to Russia’s nuclear systems, effectively putting well over half of the entire Russian missile complex within easy range of US ‘defensive’ missile batteries.
Like the spoiled and recalcitrant children they are, Hillary Diane Rodham and her henchmen would have done everything in her power to destroy this city and this island if she could not possess it and by the second day after the coup in Kiev it was obvious to everyone that while Kiev fell to US, Krimu and Sevastopol would never fall. The citizens slammed the door in her and Kiev’s face and by the fourth day of the coup success this island and this city were effectively cut off from Ukraine and US. The small ‘NATO’ mission in Sevastopol was summarily put out and the even smaller one in Feodosya suffered the same fate albeit later in the progression of events.
By electing President Trump a global war has at least been curtailed for the time being and possibly put off for a goodly amount of time in the future. We will see as events progress but at this time it looks to me like US foreign policy is in a shambles.
When the orcs attack Novorossiya, and they will, they have no choice, NAF has sufficient forces on hand to repel them and this time there will be no ‘Minsk 14.3’, no Mutti Merkel running to Moscow to beg President Putin to put NAF on a leash and stop them from counterattacking. This time the fighting will progress until all of Novorossiya is liberated and quite possibly a buffer zone along her borders created from orc territory. This time there will be no stand down for a day as the foreign troops fighting for the orcs are allowed to leave as in the summer and Debaltsyevo cauldrons. This time it will be for all the marbles and when the dust settles the victory parade will include the foreigners and the atrocities committed by the orcs will be publicly shown and documented. I have no idea what President Trump’s reaction to this turn of events will be but whatever it is it will affect us in Krimu, no doubt. So be it. We live with the hand we are dealt.
Auslander
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@Aus,
I agree with you. I believe that people who do not vote actually leave the end result to others. Hence, I always said: voting for the lesser evil is better than not voting. By saying that, I also agree with Saker said.
You wrote, “If you did not vote, or if you threw away your vote by casting it for a patently nonviable candidate, then you can not complain about the election results, good, bad or indifferent.” A polite condemnation offered to those such as myself, who no longer accept the tired old, “lesser of two evils” canard.
Back in February of this year we discussed this same topic. Timid hope, uncertainty and outright trepidation is what motivated half the electorate to choose President Trump versus Hillary Clinton. The idea that Hillary Clinton can command the Pentagon generals and admirals to do her bidding and sanctify her power anymore than Trump could to prosecute war in Crimea or in Eastern Europe, is a weak argument. She could scream to the top of her lungs like a lunatic Queen of Hearts and what would have happened is no more than the threats you see today with U.S.-NATO forces operating in the Baltic States, in Poland, in Ukraine, in Bulgaria, and on Romanian soil that touches the Black Sea. Constanta is less than 400 kilometers by sea from Sevastopol; do you feel any safer with Trump as president, given that fact and the current tactical situation?
The idea that Clinton would already have moved on Crimea or into Donbass is pure hyperbole because as sociopathic as is the Pentagon, they’re not suicidal. I don’t suggest the world is better or worse off with Trump, only the focus is on his peculiar behaviors by the media while in the war room of the shadow government, the long term plan of U.S. imperialism moves ahead.
Russia has the federal district of Crimea well protected militarily, President Putin and Defense Minister Shoigu have seen to that, thank God. But war is coming and as I responded to you before, Russia will ultimately be forced to destroy the eastern seaboard of the North American continent to save itself from Satan on the Potomac; there is no other way.
Despite your disagreement, the American people can stop all of this by not participating in the falsity of the electoral process that grants power to those who are most unworthy of it but they are too deficient in mental acumen. I chose not to be a willing conspirator to evil. I will perform my moral duty to reject that which is immoral every time when reprobates are all that is proffered on the electoral ballot. I am not afraid any longer as those like me who also made the correct choice, know as well. Having written this, make no mistake should violence become necessary to destroy the beast, I will not hesitate to act accordingly.
As I write this comment, I listen to the Sretensky Monastery Choir sing Божественная Литургия with their resonating, beautiful, deep voices in perfect harmony. It reminds me what is really important in my life, to spiritually climb The Ladder of Divine Ascent, to not look down but always upward; a challenge I confess, I often fail. Still, I must not waiver, for faith and prayer is all the world has left to fill us up with our Savior’s love, the inexhaustible, divine strength that carries us to the end of mortal existence.
I also listen to deeply divine music as I write and as I reply to posts. This night I am listening to Гимн херувимов to which both my novel and the short story were written albeit often mixed with other liturgies and local musik. While religion is very important to my little family we don’t wear it on our sleeves, we simply profess our faith at St. Nikolas, at home and wherever else it may be appropriate of the moment.
You have your opinion on the events and possibilities and I have mine. I respect your thoughts and arguments but as you well know I do not agree with all of them. I can only say a collective sigh of relief was exhaled as the election results became known in this AO through that fateful day, actually night, here. However, those who had access to far more information than I were obviously hedging their bets, the clans were not gathering, they were gathered from well before that day through this day almost six months later.
I stand by my statement that if Hillary Diane Rodham had won and had survived to take the oath of office we would be at war by now, and I’ll qualify that with ‘if any of us were still alive’. There were, and are, enough senior officers in command of US Armed Forces who are chomping at the bit to prosecute a full blown war with Russia and I have no doubts they would willingly and with alacrity issued the orders if she had so ordered and I have no doubts she would have issued the attack orders. This begs the question of would the field grade and company officers followed those orders. We can praise God we never had to find out….yet.
Auslander
Jackson Browne – Lives in the Balance – original video, sound fixed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms5J2U_ySdI
Same old zionazi nazi pindo govno. The faces and pr bs change, but their behaviour does not.
The task before Mir is how to neutralize this last gasp from the zionazi-nazis (zpc/nwo) without going to war. The tuppence regime brought nothing different here, it is the same bottom rung zionazi govno.
Trump (by his betrayals) became an empty suit and a puppet, he was hated by the Left but had huge grassroots support in “Middle America” now he has everybody to hate him, he became George W. Bush in under 100 days. This is a perfect strom to kick the Zioncohns out through an internal revolution or external isolation(optimally both).
The guts of the State are now out in the open we know who is who and (((who))) pulls the strings. Now we know the Emperor has no clothes. Let’s make this happen,(removed for language,MOD) (((Hydra))). Bring on the Pain!
Now we know that MAGA is just MIGA = Make “Israel Great” Again
Disappointing and unproductive analysis.
Trump is the president. Time to move on. Blaming Trump at a personal level is also unproductive.
Why is Trump unable to capitalise politically the massive number of votes he got in the election? Why and how has he been cornered by his opponents? Is he able to get out? How? Has he got room to maneuver? What is needed to make him politically strong enough to keep his election promises?
Why is the Republican party (Trump was the Republican party candidate) unable or unwilling to back Trump in getting Trump to fulfill his election promises?
Does Trump need to mobilise his own political party to implement his election promises? Is that even an option? Or can he get enough of his own Republican representatives/senators elected in the next election to be able to do this?
In the US system, being president, by itself, is insufficient to further any political agenda. To varying degrees this is true of any country.
What would be nice to have from The Saker is an analysis of the balance of political forces for and against Trump, how they need to be managed or altered, how new political forces can be mobilised etc. in order to achieve Trump’s (and his voters’) political goals.
The presidential election showed clearly that there is an unmet poitical demand. If this is left unmet, it could lead to even worse decisions by the US government which would be damaging not just to the US but to the whole world.
The role of the US president is probably similar to the one of the Russian Czar and maybe the US and Trump are in a similar position to the Czar before he was deposed.
Winding down an empire is fraught with risks. We need incisive and clear headed analysis from skillful and knowledgeable people like the Saker to improve our understanding and show the way ahead so that it does not all end with a bang, nuclear or otherwise.
Check this. The Zionist’s prepared scripts for a Hillary Presidency – preferred – and a Trump Presidency – frowned upon – had to be quite different.
With Hillary it was possible to simply let the very orderly and easily predictable psychopath’s algorithm run its deadly course, while Zion-Media slowly but surely would stylize Hillary into a Mother Theresa like saintly figure. Easy.
The efficient handling of Trump is an altogether messier affair. Due to his half cardboard, half clown characteristics, Trump can only be run as an Anti, as in anti-hero. And that, needless to say, is potentially a recipe for unmitigated disaster.
CIA’s Doctor Mengeles will have to work shift, overtime and constantly improvise to refract Trump’s idiot savant shooting from the hip trajectories in the desired, genocidal direction.
The reverse tactic – allowing the CIA to commit pointless war crimes (Tomahawks and MOAB attacks in Syria and Afghanistan) and forcing Trump to take responsibility for it and thus making him look like a freak – is a welcome option too.
… as are dozens of others, all situated between the bizarre and the grotesque, intended to achieve little to nothing except a) derailing Trump and his ‘followers’ and b) enlarging the swamp.
New stuff has come to light, But first about the reasons to vote for…
The rural folk in our little ranching community on the river seemed to vote for T Man about 75%, but the consensus was that voting for Trump was “like throwing a grenade” – ie liable to disrupt things among their lordships. The motivation was fear of war, so far as I can learn.
Barbarossa, one recalls, failed, as did v. Schlieffen Plan before it – both due to disrupted beginnings. Not, mind you, that Barbarossa 2.0 might just be delayed by the fat fella and his idiocy, but you never knew. Small things, especially in war, sometimes have large effect.
But there is a significant new development. see http://tass.com/politics/942643
Brother G: “The more aggressive the Americans are the sooner they will see the final collapse of the dollar as the only way for the victims of American aggression to stop this aggression is to get rid of the dollar. As soon as we and China are through with the dollar, it will be the end of the United States’ military might,” Sergey Glazyev
Note that TASS is showcasing this just in case the fellas down at the shop might have missed it. This, like the TU95’s, is a signal…
Now then, check out Brother Max and Sister Stacy at 23:00 they’re talking about the Wiemar-like inflation about to hit the USA: https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/385662-episode-max-keiser-1061/
Looks like hardball to me…
Well what did anyone expect??? There was no way – at least for now that Trump could possibly stop the zionist war machine. The article makes many salient points especially the awakening of the oppressed American people. Not the fake paid soros stooges but the real forgotten men and women of America.
There are only two sides – the racist anglo/zionist imbeciles with their whores and everyone else. The only reason the occultists are in charge is not by wisdom but rather ruthless evil combined with stupidity and infused with greed.
Evil only creates more evil and greed likewise – enabling the zionists to corrupt the sheeple with easy to swallow steps that seem innocuous and self helping.
What I find most encouraging about the Trump victory – and I am still thrilled that it happened. Is not what Trump has done or will do but rather examples like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcTgJrxzkoE
Real people fighting back – clearly these are spontenous and heartfelt – which explains why the MSM has all but ignored the revolt brewing with the US. Note how the police stood by while the deep state security service agents with the antifa front attempted to quell revolt.
The right against the left narrative has collapsed and the desperate zionist campaign to demonize opposition by the swath of racism and intolerance has proven ineffective.
No matter how many soros backed stooges dressed in moderate head chopper gear and pajama pants the zionist field it is not enough to suppress real Americans. Just like in Syria – there are simply not enough drug fueled mercs to stop the resistance.
The anglo/zionist hubris has now galvanized the Trump supporters – as can be seen in the outburst at Berkeley. Like the resistance in the ME – the American people are coming together in a movement outside of the zionist political puppet show. Berkeley is a good example. Where you can clearly see the disorganize but sincere swell of revolt. The soros thugs simply did not expect that common people would stand up to them – unlike those fake propaganda MSM bring out the klansman (another zionist construct) circuses.
What we can now expect is that Trump will continue to do a terrible job implementing the anglo/zionist agenda and that the American revolt will culminate in the public execution of numerous dual citizens and their vassal stooges. The liberation of Palestine and the great American revolt is a lot closer than we think.
Hey there my brother,
I think that maybe you need some time off? I mean, why are you being a Trump apologist? Yeah, sure, I totally agree that a random, unpredictable Trump is way better than an extremely predictable imperialist sociopath like Hillary. I sort of supported “Trump as a monkey wrench tossed into the imperial machinery” but hell, I never vote because voting grants legitimacy to your overlords. Why are you supporting my overlord?
To speak directly, this post comes off as an ambling rant with few facts and little clear purpose (except to defend Trump and vilify Hillary).
I love you brother, hang in there and keep fighting the good fight. Some days (and posts) are better than others!
A. Critic
Why voting for Anyone makes me laugh (7 reasons answered)
1. “…examples in history of the elites turning against each other”
How does voting for any elite sponsered, vetted and controlled candidate — not to mention carefully invented, packaged and trained tv star for heaven’s sake, undermine elites? Voting for preselected cadidates only reinforces the illusion that you have power to affect decisions made by sociopaths who are 100% united against you. Infighting between elites stops as soon as they realize the rabble are profitting.
2. “…you can think of the elections as a giant opinion poll”
Correct. An opinion poll. Your opinion is irrelevant to any final outcome. Innumerable studes demonstrate there is no correlation between what the public wants and what it gets. Did you want free trade so all your jobs could be sent to Mexico and China? Of course not. Your opinion only matters in so far as elites are informed they’ll have to do a better job of marketting their decisions or else brutalize your consciousness more effectively, like they always do.
3. “…this gigantic vote of no-confidence in the Ziomedia will now force the regime to engage in all sorts of more or less subtle maneuvers to try to crack down on free speech”
Measures to repress, manipulate and control so-called free speech have been ongoing for quite some time and are both subtle and not — and these measures number in the thousands if not tens of thousands. It’s called Full Spectrum Dominance. More importantly, these measures were rapidly accelerated after the election of Trump when every idiotic plan rejected by the previous regime was pulled off the shelf and enacted. Net neutrality my tuchus. The quickening of repression began exactly one day after Trump was elected and was very obviously planned to coincide with the predetermined victory of the ‘saviour’ of the remorselessly gullible.
4. “…find some solace in the fact that Trump is now betraying all his campaign promises. Hillary would have done more or less the same.”
I don’t follow your logic. How is this a reason to have voted for Trump?
5. “If Hillary had been elected, then the ideology which made her characterize the average American as ugly bigot would be ruling the country by now…”
If Hillary had been elected, the American people would have had a genuine representitive of the elite mentality as President. Hillary Obviously threw the election with these carefully designed comments meant to upset everyone she needed to win while simultaneously splitting America straight down the middle. By the way, 90% of the voters in 70% black Mississipi are White. Moreover, 100% of the vote counting is ‘supervised’ by people selected by George Soros and his institutionalized sytem of vote rigging, so sophisticated most of us can hardly fathom it — unless of course we bother to think about it for 90 seconds or less.
Trump’s supposedly ‘disappointing’ performance in the later debates was made to make him look ‘real’ and endear him to the electorate while Hillary looked more and more insane with every passing day. Had the result gone differently the sense of relief and deliverance felt by the white working class would not have occurred and pent up rage would not have been (temporarily) defused. Also, if Hillary won we would be closer to a genuine revolt by people with guns instead of the mass confusion generated by the public spectacle and a ritual of venting — always and forever pushing us into directions which are useful to the power mad and toxic elite — who think you’re an idiot and have little to no reason to think otherwise so long as you keep giving their rigged system the stamp of approval by voting. Furthermore, Clinton voters are already so out to lunch that angering them was not ever even a minor concern for the Ziocrats, Necons, Gangsters, et al.
Here is an article from Yale. Go ahead, have a look. Look at that evil face who is now mocking you. It was planned all along — and they are telling you.
Was the election a ‘shattering’ experience for you? [ha ha ha] There is hope, says a Yale sociologist
http://news.yale.edu/2017/01/27/was-election-shattering-experience-you-there-hope-says-yale-sociologist
6. “…Trump already got one more or less decent Supreme Court Justice”
Great. I’ll go get my 20-100 million USD from the bank and find the lawyers I need to take on Monsanto.
7. “…nuclear war is simply too horrible and threatens the future of the entire human race”
Yes it is. Theoretically. Which is why the threat of nuclear war is so useful a stick for beating the masses into submission. Funny how we’ve avoided it all this time. There are good reasons to think the first nuclear ‘tests’ were a ruse — to keep Stalin from walking over Europe, while Hiroshima and Nagasaki were possibly fire bombed, including with radioactive material. Perhaps nuclear weapons amount to no more than the scattering of dirty radioactive material, to salt the earth — but I don’t know and won’t take a chance so the only rational thing to do is for everyone to come to terms, as the Russians for been suggesting for eons, and figure out a way to at the very least massively reduce the manufacture and deployment of these insane and basically useless weapons — unless of course you are a member of the elite who needs to terrorize the planet into doing it your way or else. Funny, now that I think of it, do you really need 20000 nuclear bombs if 30 can annialate the planet? Unless you need that many to scatter radioactive contaminants? Why would a tiny sealed core of plutonium prove so difficult to manage? They sure got some mileage in Ziomedia out of those supposedly insecure Soviet nukes, back in the 90’s, didn’t they? Important questions don’t you think?
There’s this guy Lumi, an occaisonal commenter, who I used to pillage when he would make this suggestion. I’m still undecided but now thinking differently. Remember how they used to tell us it’s the fallout that would kill us? Go watch the movie The Day After to remind yourself. Ergo, all nuclear bombs are dirty bombs, if not in reality then for all practical purposes that’s all they can be if it’s the fallout, not the blast, that kills ya.
The Nuclear Hoax
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjMteDFgbjTAhWn8YMKHTVvDpYQFggiMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmileswmathis.com%2Ftrinity.pdf&usg=AFQjCNE6xwaZtM3JVk6zWqWJNO4E7Fv20A
Democracy is a cloak for the oligarchy. See that child of Abraham named Thucydides who wrote Pericles Funeral Oration to both market and celebrate this Athenian psyop, which now governs most of the world, in both theory and practice — just as it was meant to starting roughly 2500 years ago on the crowded streets of Athens. It is not what you think it is.
But Democracy is a ravaging success, for those who invented it, or do you think powerful people suddenly woke up one day and came to the conclusion that we rabble should be consulted? Lol. It was conceived as a ruse but even then it had one redeeming quality, not including the relatively tiny size of a polis: oligarchs could be influenced, if not by reason then by a dagger.
Hi there
Let me chime in on this Hoax with some more factual info, forensic evidence.
http://www.big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/impossible-shadows-fake-ruins-Hiroshima-photos.html
https://tabublog.com/2015/04/21/no-nukes-were-dropped-on-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/bomb.htm
http://coconutrevival.com/?p=3611
Take Care
Kent
P.S.
High res. of one of the fake photos from Miles Mathis analysis (and others).
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/DgIEr0a%20(1).jpg
Enhanced version of fake official photo of test. It is impressive though, given the rather limited technology at the time to manipulate photos.
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/DgIEr0aEnhanced.jpg
Kent
I’m not an expert on this issue. Nonetheless, I would recommend skepticism regarding these claims.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/10/can-people-live-hiroshima-nagasaki-now-chernobyl/
http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2012/10/18/who-knew-about-radiation-sickness-and-when/
Thanks for your comment Alfa – really good reading
As for the 1945 nukes, i think we all can agree this was hoax for a number of reasons. Question is what happened later – did they actually come up with working nuclear explosives and delivery methods?
Reality indicates this is not the case, since we never have seen them being used (and humanity tends to use all weapons ever invented without exception). Furthermore, no nuke accidents, no known stolen nukes, no firing off by mistakes – nothing!
Also, if someone (Lumi?) has done some deeper studies into the ‘Tsar bomba’ alleged test and cares to share it would be highly appreciated. This is the largest ‘nuke’ ever claimed to be tested – but the information out there is very scarce.
AlfaAlfalfa, that “Miles W. Mathis” is unfortunately one of the countless deceptively treacherous disinfo trash sites. They (CIA, ‘think tanks’, whatever) typically tell almost the truth, and then distort it, and mix it with the most outrageous crap (even such as the earth is flat, or nuclear weapons don’t exist).
It is actually their main and favorite way to discredit the truth about something in the eyes of naïve, ignorant people. so they will dismiss it, and keep believing the pack of lies the system tells them.
I’ll comment on point 4 — I think The Saker is saying that with Trump making these recent decisions he is breaking, going against, his campaign promises, in contrast to Clinton. Clinton may have made the exact same decisions, but the decisions would have been in support of her campaign promises.
Trump is acting in flagrant violation of his mandate from the voters, whereas Clinton in the same circumstances would be acting in line with her mandate. I think he’s trying to highlight this difference.
I’m struggling to figure out why you believe that Gorsuch is a good choice for the Supreme Court.
Saker, I stopped reading after your:
” Hillary would have probably nominated the first Black or Latino genderfluid freak, a Chabad-Lubavitch rabbi or even Alan Dershowitz Himself (with a capital “H”)”
Your ethnic slurs discredit your analysis. You seem to have avoided any mention of pedogate as being part of the swamp. Pizzagate is not the exclusive favorite perversion of any single ethnic, racial or tribal minority.
As far as gender fluid token goes, I hope you don’t need to be reminded of the Anderson Coopers, Catlyn Jenner, Ellen Degeneres and a long list of people that more than adequately fit your “genderfluid freak” characterization. Here is a list that should refresh your mind about them
http://www.ranker.com/list/gay-celebrities-who-came-out-in-the-2000s/celebrity-lists
The truth is that many Blacks, Hispanics and minorities supported Trump for the wrong reasons as they believed he was indeed going to drain the swamp. If you deny that you are lying because the Cuban vote gave Florida to Trump.
So, stop your mis-characterization of the Hispanic vote if you want to call it the Mexican American vote that went to Hillary, then that is your prerogative but the Cuban vote gave Florida to Trump.
I think The Saker is arguing that Clinton would have appointed as judge who represents the “minorities who hate the majority” coalition. So, if she appointed a Hispanic judge, she would select someone who is Hispanic but does *not* reflect the views of the Hispanic majority.
He’s not trying to insult or misrepresent the Hispanic vote. He is trying to demonstrate how the Clinton machine’s (ab)use of minorities is practiced. IMO :-)
Trump seems to be a better choice in the first place. But after a while you will see that deep state has a welcome victim in Trump to be responsive for the really bad things.
The deep state is just warming up right now, recognizing they can do whatever they want and make Trump responsive for. But because the deep state has no central head this new freedom will cause total chaos. The same chaos the US caused around the world will finaly fall back to themself.
I agree with you, even if Trump today is not behaving as we expected he would, voting for him was the only way to try to “bring down the elephant in the room”.
In France we have a similar dilemna and I will vote for Marine Le Pen as she is candidate willing to try to bring down that elephant. All the others belong to the New World Order, Fillon was the French PM when Sarkozy destroyed Libya and re-integrate NATO, Macon and Hamon are supporting all the terrorist in Syria and are courting the Saudi’s family and the Al-Thani’s family ruling Qatar, both criminal families. Melanchon is a free-mason belonging to the Grand-Orient from France, as such, he is also part of that dreadfull system.
Marine Le Pen will have to fight the elephant. With her, we may fail but it is better to fight than to capitulate and accept servitude.
I am rooting for France, the French people, and Le Pen. I HOPE SHE WINS.
The reason why i hoped Trump win was based on intuition that DT will hurry up the decline of Empire. Last four years of Global US Empire are here NOW. 2021 will start in totally different conditions. Trump will divide and degrade America, make it really disguisting and hated all over the world and it the consequence of 2016 election and early 2017 betrayal.
The realpolitik mode of thinking behind this article, ironically similar to that of the neocons/neolibs, is discouraging to say the least. We must be better than this if we are to have a better world. A vote for either Trump or Clinton–a mean and clueless billionaire bully or a phony Wall Street-loving warmonger–was a mistake…and IMHO a sin. Yes, Sanders and Stein also proved disappointing and disheartening in the end, but before one piles on them too eagerly, it would be wise to consider Teddy Roosevelt’s “man in the arena.” Assuming that one’s votes are acts for which accounts will someday need to be given to a higher power, I would much rather attempt to explain a vote for Sanders or Stein, or a protest vote or pass on this presidential election, than to make a shaky, somewhat dissembling case that one grotesque form of evil was preferable to another.
Has Saker never really thought about inevitable process of western cultural decline? The point is that change will never really happen with political process like voting and party system. The real change will come with horrors of economic/military/plague catastrophy. When WW3 is out of question (we all will die and you can’t blame me later to have been wrong) and plague is likely theoretical all we have now left is economic gun down, a bullet to head of Dollar Gorilla.
I’m even more convinced than in 2003 that Johan Galtung is seeing the clear picture – the collapse of US Empire is coming and the biggest winners of that process are 99% of Americans (in longer run). A life living in peace without militarism is what mankind now needs. Without US backed jihadist terrorism we will have least criminal era of human history. Only in some parts of Sub Saharan Africa there are clear evidence of structural potential violent future (because demographics). More and more Muslim non-African countries are passing or passed that critical period (because fast decline of fertility rate).
Post Pax Americana will mean more fair multipolar world where western people finally confesses to be just on quite small branch of humankind. Not paradise but far from living hell. The truth remains: “the good old days” were not so good at all. We need each others more than ever.
Trump is lifetime Zionist and Netanyahu’s friend. He is not forced to be Zionist (in the sense of accepting of all the Israeli exceptionality and living mythology), it’s his truly mindset. And he is not the same like Clinton and Obama, who both of them are all but Israeli PM’s copies, unlike Trump. He needn’t neither Bannon nor Flynn having whole pro-Israeli cabal in DC at his hand. Trump is not obsessed with Russia like Clinton, Obama, McCain, he genuinely hates Iran instead, just like his Israeli friend.
Translation, we’re all too wimpy to do anything real, so let’s pretend we’re doing something by playing into their game and voting…. like a moron…
Trump was the option in the election period…if voters did not want war. in that regard Hillary was no option at all.
going in I knew Trump would have great difficulty and ultimately fail, or climb down willingly from his program. but I did not expect his collapse to be at supersonic speed.
Trump did not live in progressive company and did not know of any progressives who were true nationalists and capable of dealing with the ‘deep state’ Trump could not put an admin together that could deal with the deep state from people he actually knew, from his campaign who were hard, incorruptible progressives. and had he found some and tried to appoint them, the civil war might have emerged right there as the senate/congress would have blocked every such appointment
the only way for Trump to prevail putting together such a cabinet was to truly solidify his support into a movement and have them filling up the streets of DC with pitch forks at the ready
Trump is also a rich man tied by the navel to Jewry, Judaism/Zionism. it looks to me that Trump himself is very likely Jewish. I would wager that that is the reason why Trump has survived in his business and remains a rich man. and by now his psy closet is probably full of blackmail level, impeachable content.
Trumps parents..his father looks inextricably Jewish to me although I don’t see where that is acknowledged. and those are the conditions in which Trump grew up..Jewish in New York.
His children are married to Jews..and Jews marry Jews mostly. how in heavens name could/would such a man prevail against Jewish interest I could not see/cannot see…unless his movement became real movement, organized, total, out in the streets in the cities, in DC itself, ready to intervene if necessary. that would have made sure the congress would pass his nominations and he would get the cabinet he needed to carry through his program
Trump did not go out to do this. he chose some of the worse people for his cabinet, betrayed those who were for his promises. to develop such a movement would have seriously threatened real revolutionary changes that would threaten Trump too, as a rich man… not to mention challenged the social control of Jews in America.
could or would have Trump go so far?
I don’t think so and never expected it. but I did expect a Russian re-set and war climb-down: with Syrian too. I expected some infrastructure redevelopment program, maybe a NAFTA re-negotiation, and some real action of jobs etc. I expected some ‘goodies’ but much climb down from the totality of the direction and program his campaign promised
I am a black American who voted for Trump. A Protestant. A Patriot. A U.S. nationalist. I am a descendant of black American slaves. My family has served in the U.S. military and fought wars defending this country FOR GENERATIONS. I know OTHER black Americans who voted for Trump and LOVE this country. The color of our skin and our ethnicity do not AUTOMATICALLY define our values or priorities.
Our ancestors have made a MAJOR investment in this country via labor AND blood. We are EQUALLY AMERICAN. And, MANY of us love it MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
God bless White/Black America (you may add a bit of red)! It is the highest call to fight for its defense.
But America should heed the advise of the famous soldier, the Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery:
“Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: ‘Do not march on Moscow’. Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good. That is the first rule. I do not know whether your Lordships will know Rule 2 of war. It is: ‘Do not go fighting with your land armies in China’. It is a vast country, with no clearly defined objectives”.
I’m tired of war for the sake of war. I’m also tired of the U.S. being overextended. That’s why I voted for Trump–for the HOPE of a reversal. The U.S. is not a perfect country, but IT IS a wonderful country with lots of potential. I’d never heard of the concept of “the Deep State” until I was introduced to Catherine Austin Fitts. However, I noticed, on my own, that there was an effort to erode American society, identity, culture, and power by bringing in masses to dilute the native population, assure electoral wins by the Democratic Party (not that I think the Republicans are “so great–I DON’T), and to SUPPRESS Christianity/Christian values, once and for all. Voting against that movement was AN IMPERATIVE for me.
I was SO HAPPY Trump ran on his platform. I supported him from the beginning. For me, there was no other viable option this election. YES, I’m disappointed by the turns and some of the decisions he has made. However, Trump has been under INTENSE assault, since he was elected–EVEN BEFORE the inauguration. I have NVER seen anything like that in my life. That let me know, “the Deep State” IS REAL. Giving up Flynn was a mistake. Giving up Brannon (racist or not) would be a mistake also, because these are people who truly believed in and supported Trump’s objectives. These are men who were truly in his corner and willing to fight for him. Trump cannot achieve his objectives ALONE. He’s been GREATLY weakened. And, he’s surrounded by people with a globalist mindset, which will make it more difficult for him to receive support for a nationalist focus. At least we have Sessions who seems sincere about protecting the border.
I was VERY SAD to hear about the strike on Syria. And, I’m VERY NERVOUS about this situation with North Korea. But, I was cautiously relieved to hear Trump say we still are not going into Syria. I’m hoping PRUDENCE will win over the “need” to prove military might. The thought of another world war is OVERWHELMING, and it’s something we DON’T NEED. I believe Trump was sincere in his speech before Congress (which I thought WAS EXCELLENT, btw), when he talked of being the President of the U.S. and not the world, and also allowing the Syrian people to decide what to do about Assad. But, something happened in the interim (unfortunately). Now, Trump has started getting more favorable reviews in the media and from certain members of Congress. I DID NOTICE THAT. Trump is only human and is susceptible to pressure like the rest of us. For the task he was taking on, he REQUIRED fortification (like Flynn, for example). I don’t think he realized what he would be dealing with. I never expected it. IT’S CRAZY. So, I’m saddened by the turn of events, but hopeful that some things can still be salvaged and unnecessary war can be averted.
For those who felt they were/are unable to choose “the lesser of two evils” for moral or ethical reasons, I respect them. I personally don’t consider Trump “evil” as some others do. But, PRAGMATICALLY, it was either going to be the Democratic candidate (Hillary) or the Republican candidate (Trump). Voting for an alternative candidate or not voting at all, STILL would effectively be a vote for the ultimate winner. This past election presented STARKLY different platforms and ideological directions for this country. For me, person, the outcome was one I was unwilling to leave up to “Chance”. I voted for the platform I believed was in the best interests of the country (and the rest of the world, for that matter).
As far as third parties are concerned, our system is not set up to support one, and the Democrats and Republicans are not going to try to alter the system to make such a candidacy more viable. It’s against their interests. Furthermore, achieving such an aim requires more time than we have available to address current issues.
In sum, I had to vote with my conscience. And, my personal values would not allow me to support a Clinton Presidency. I had a lot of hope for Trump, but I realized nothing is “guaranteed “. STILL, working with Trump leads to a better range of possibilities than working with Clinton, in my opinion. All is not yet lost, but the future is “TENUOUS”, at best. We “deplorables” have to continue TO PRESS for the outcomes we voted for and were promised. And, we must continue to let THE REST of the world know that global destruction WILL NOT BE SOUGHT “in OUR name”.
I beg to disagree on a few points:
– I believe that Sanders would have been a much better choice. This is not about left or right. It is because I believe he has some decency in him. Yes, he is living in the Washington mud and he has become contaminated – as anyone would. So don’t expect him to see the world as you do. But I would trust him to change course when something doesn’t feel good. Trump on the other hand will do anything that works in the polls.
– The Saker brings a type of Verelendungstheorie. Everything has to become bad before it becomes better and the faster it becomes bad the faster there will be a reaction. In my opinion this usually works the other way around: you give some people special interests and it may take decades to take them back from them.
– Yes, everyone has seen that someone who says Putin is a good guy can be elected president in the US – what signals that they don’t believe all this neocon hysteria. But not every public opinion is translated in policies. Public opinion in the US has been skeptical about Wall Street for quite some time – with almost no effect.
that is exactly how i would have put it.people dont do logic anymore.in uk we have an election coming up,various reasons are being given,i think it is so the bastards can go to war, first syria then iran,if russia and china dont intervien.this could all be stopped if people voted for ukip,thats why the media demonises them
Trump is a powerless puppet like Obama was. Do you really believe Bush jr could do a thing on his own?
The elections were a reality show. Things are going to be ugly and we need to be prepared for it.
USA only understand force, you need to send a clear message to these criminals. Hezbollah kicked Israel’s ass in 2006 in 33 days.
The US voters voted for change. But the candidates moves are controlled by the puppet master. The puppet master has not changed.Only the puppet changes.
I see that the North Korean Communist Dictatorship has threatened the Chinese Communist Dictatorship for allying itself with the Trump Administration. I find this to be a hopeful sign that President Trump is working with US trading partners in a constructive and new coalition building manner that can include the Russian Republic. Isn’t this refreshing! Nation to Nation.
It’s not refreshing to me. More like Nation to Nutcase. If Russia makes any such deals with the US, they will be betrayed. And that would make them the Nutcase party in the first place. Putin himself at times speaks ruefully of Russia’s unsavory WTO experience, wherein to this day the durable US/EU sanctions prompt no resistance in reference to WTO standards. Is there to be no learning from this?
And betrayal would only be the lesser crime. Russia, if economically entwined by or with the US to the extent of just one molecule further than at present, will be impoverished, raked over, and finally taken down by financial and economic levers both longstanding and innovative in nature, all at the hegemon’s good pleasure and timing. There won’t even be a Great Battle to remember over the campfires of 2030, just the slow entropy of institutionalized moneychanging, a triumph of rent-seeking, and the ineluctable dawn one day of perfected economic servitude and a bankruptcy of the public virtue.
I cannot believe Russian leaders and planners might be so stupid as to fall for this. Job one: purge the atlanticists, good and hard. Then see how much appetite remains for such lunacy as crawling into bed with the usurping Western whores.
On the other hand, China may yet confirm itself as a hopeless, money-grubbing, short-sighted, ultimately suicidal shadow of a Great Power. But no one is relying on China to save the world.
As with any nation, it’s first order of priorities is to protect its self-interest and security.
Threatening Beijing, in some personal way, as DPRK likes to talk, is not only counter-productive, but suicidal.
Beijing, the CPC leadership, the PLA and the economic giants of China, are not about to live with a lunatic next door.
It won’t matter what ‘it’ looks like, but Beijing will decapitate NK for China’s and the CPC’s own security. I expect in May, when Putin and Xi meet, the topic will be how and when they preempt the US and Kim from creating regional chaos.
China and Russia were the allies of DPRK for three years against the UN-forces led by the USA. They drove MacArthur back to the South. They have blood in the same soil as the Koreans. And now their stakes are far larger than Kim’s.
North Korea can have a future, but it looks as though it won’t be with Kim.
30 warheads makes him the most dangerous paranoid in human history.
Even an accident could knock China and Russia’s economy worse than what the Hegemon intends with containment and an arms race.
Kim is a greater threat than anything the Chinese and Russians face from the Hegemon at present. And in the world of gauging threats, the present is what matters most. He must be dealt with.
Peace on the Korean Peninsula is one person away. So is total, suicidal war.
Appreciate your insight, Larchmonter 445. A couple of comments, if I may:
I am not convinced that Kim represents “a greater threat than anything the Chinese and Russians face from the Hegemon at present”. I am open to this idea, but for me at least, it is a very large statement to encounter. I must assume you speak only in the context of proximal threats containing an immediately measurable military consequence. My own belief is that, as far as guaging threats is concerned, allowing the “present” to matter “most” (and as any conflict escalates, “most” usually comes to mean “only”) is precisely the reflex that makes a party to induced chaos act in a way that compromises their longer-term interests (perhaps even displacing them).
The Hegemon, by threatening to retaliate against Kim’s stated plans for defending himself (that’s how the meaning of Pence’s absurd speech actually works out), is effectively introducing a season of chaos into a system (engineered mostly by the “lunatic” Kim) that was, unfortunately for domination planning, operating in a predictable way. North Korea’s system was a micro-MAD arrangement that was working as designed: it was keeping the US reluctant to attack NK, by raising the cost of such an attack. It was succeeding regardless of whether Kim actually has nukes that are capably weaponized, and it was succeeding regardless of whether Kim occupies the high or low moral ground. The present hope on the part of the US is to create a bifurcation inside that functioning (though costly and ultimately unsustainable) process, thereby stimulating China/Russia into reacting meaningfully (and reportably) to correct what is a purely induced disruption in the system’s steady-state operation.
To say that Kim’s system was working is not to comment on its moral value. Just that it was working. You call Kim a lunatic. If by that you mean he is psychotic or incoherent, your assessment may be true, but to me he seems to be differently afflicted: he is obsessively rational, calculating, angry, paranoid, and plainly belligerent. But most of this excitation is, I think, exogenously sourced. And if he is in fact rational, then it is doubtful he would intend to verifiably start the war. However, without question, that increasingly twitchy finger of his does sit on what he would no doubt like to develop into a hair-trigger capability. Given that reality, I suggest that reasonable counterparties do not exacerbate any state of high anxiety that already governs most of what an armed proto-enemy is thinking, doing, and saying. So, why is the US doing exactly that to Kim? Are we to, yet again, once again, and again after that, assume the US provokes Kim because they really don’t know the consequent value of that provocation? That they are ignorant of the fruit it is likely to bear? And what should this tell us about US intentions? Is this what good will looks like?
It seems you are suggesting that Russia and China would act “preemptively” to stop the US and Kim from “creating regional chaos.” But the only prescription for achieving this effect seems to be, “take out Kim.” Nothing concrete is heard concerning the US and its role. Perhaps the suggestion is that Russia and China could remove Kim, put something else (as yet undefined) in his place, and all of this would assumedly sit well with the US? If only Kim were gone, but THAAD and the tens of thousands of US soldiers sitting in Korea and Japan remain, does that mean China and Russia’s “stakes” in this are then made safe? Is that a win for them? If so, that result strikes me as a true flabbergaster of a win.
Some more questions:
1) Are China and Russia certain that Kim cannot be persuaded to drop his weapons and war programming, in exchange for the US being told in the form of a demand by those two great powers, that they must militarily vacate the region?
2) Is the present degree of stress between NK and China something to be expected over time, or has it been precipitated? If so, what accomplished that?
3) If Putin and Xi meet, and do in fact jointly chart out a course for “decapitating” NK, does that mean Russia’s (admittedly implicit) reticence concerning regime change is, or has been, selective, even illusory?
4) Is the will of the South Korean people to have no voice in these determinations? If not, why is that? Or do Russia and China already have a good understanding of SK’s popular preference, perhaps transmitted by the, shall we say, imperfectly objective United States?
Given in part that the US, in the post-WWII day of its nuclear-weapon monopoly, planned and developed a nuclear attack intended to wipe out the politically important parts of the USSR (as well as some bits of non-British Europe), how exactly can Kim (also a presumed nuclear-war planner at this point) be described as “the most dangerous paranoid in human history”? Maybe he is a contender, but he hasn’t yet earned the crown. Hiroshima left my father’s family as not more than a tenth of what it might have been. The survivors will tell you that the lunatic is as the lunatic does.
I spent a half hour constructing answers to your questions.
I deleted them.
Your stakeholding, if honest as you indicate (Korean), earns you space.
Just realize a person, Kim, is different from a government (the Hegemon) which has turned tyranny, uncontrollable. Kim could have come out of the Hermitage, the caves, and joined the world in the big Russian 70th anniversary celebration. He chose to stay home, though directly invited by Putin. Everything would be different. His status and the NK status would have changed. Openings for him and NK would have occurred.
If he held his nukes and missiles close, kept his mouth shut and interacted with his neighbors in some sensible way, he would not have everyone set against him.
And his two biggest neighbors, former allies, are thinking of preserving North Korea as viable society, ready to join in a Korean Peninsula development that would be led by South Korean capital and familial ties.
Instead, he sputters in psychotic rapture.
This, ultimately, has little to do with the Hegemon or its desires of domination.
It has to do with the national security of China and Russia.
Whatever happens (unless Kim or the Hegemon preempt) they will decide his future.
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Everything else is fear-mongering.
Trump was the choice if you wanted to avoid a massive conflagration of the US and its coalition versus Russia (in Syria and Ukraine, simultaneously). And in the Black Sea and Mediterranean, also.
Would such a conflagration have led to nuclear war? No one knows. Chances, though are very good.
Russia would have to defend and its losses would be large. More than likely, tactical nukes would have been employed.
So, we got Trump. Will there be such a hot conflict in Syria and Ukraine? Highly unlikely. Trump and enough rational men beyond the generals know that Russia is an equal in strategic weapons, and a devastating force in tactical battles. The costs of fighting Russia are very high. Unacceptable for any normal thinker.
Neocons and Russophobes never calculate the costs. They are interested only in doing the damage. Blowback is never in their simulations and planning papers.
Unintended consequences are not in their lexicon.
So, we have the right one in the WH. They one who will not push Russia too far.
He will push for a few more months in Syria. Maybe set up safe zones in an attempt to partition Syria. But these plans are illegal and will be defeated by reality.
The big test will be Deir ez Zor in the east of Syria. This looks to be the masterwork of the Pentagon to re-establish ISIS from Raqqa to the east, gather the forces from Mosul and declare a new Caliphate capital.
Trump wants ISIS to be liquidated. I don’t foresee him backing this plan for very long. It is of course meant to squander more Syrian Army forces and weaken Assad.
From the looks of the battlefields of Syria so far, it would take a year or more of intense urban fighting to weaken Assad. Aleppo, under siege by the SAA for six months, was taken in little over 14 days. It had been prepared by al Nusra and ISIS for three years. I think Russian airpower will change Deir ez Zor more radically than Aleppo was altered.
Trump hates losing. Syria will look like a loss in the making with no hope of an overtime comeback like the Patriots in SuperBowl.
The Americans who voted for Trump wanted him to work with Putin and Russian military to defeat ISIS. Nothing has changed in that electorate. They want Russian and US cooperation and a fast end to ISIS/AQ. Many of them do not trust Mattis and McMaster. Trump is meeting with everyone, but has no plans to meet with Putin. Another issue that Trump’s voters do not like.
At some point, he has to get real or win some other way.
If there was another path to victory, it would be clear to everyone.
What we all see is rehashed Bush and Petraeus, a losing formula in a quicksand pit called MENA. And the generals are adding Yemen and Afghanistan to their bucket of shit list. (let’s not forget, West Africa, Sub-Sahara and Horn of Africa because McMaster and Mattis haven’t.)
Pick a winner from this lineup: Syria, Iraq, Libya, Mali, Sudan, Somalia, Tunisia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Lebanon. Where can Trump get his victory?
We picked the right guy. There is no winnable war and Trump wants a victory.
He’s giving the generals Raqqa and he wants it to be the ending of ISIS. Maybe they haven’t briefed him on Deir ez Zor.
Everywhere a surge. McMaster was Petreaus’ pomppomp girl for surge. They are going to surge all over CENTCOM and AFRICOM. But nowhere is there victory evident as outcome.
And mid-summer, Deir ez Zor will be in the news everyday.
When Putin and Trump shake hands in G20 in July, Putin will let him know the facts. That will be a Presidential briefing for the ages!
I would love to be a fly on the wall when President Putin meets President Trump. DJT’s advisers have moved heaven and earth to keep him away from VVP. I wonder why?
Stop please with this fantasy that when Trump meets Putin all will be well.
Neither of us said anything about ‘all will be well’. But I will bet you 5 rubles that DJT will not meet with VVP in private and alone.
O yes he will…you do not know Don…
Here are the hard facts for US reality according Chinese expert:
“A Chinese observer, Qiao Liang, author of Unrestricted Warfare (1999), abused in English translation with the inaccurate subtitle, “China’s Master Plan to Destroy America,” recently identified the germ of the country’s general economic disease in the neoliberal shift from productive to financial investment:
“This financial economy (using money to make money) is much easier than the real (industry-based) economy. Why will it bother with manufacturing industries that have only low value-adding capabilities? Since August 15, 1971, the U.S. has gradually stopped its real economy and moved into a virtual economy. It has become an ‘empty’ economy state. Today’s U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has reached US$18 trillion, but only $5 trillion is from the real economy.””
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/14/panic-in-america-people-in-revolt/
Where I come from freedom of expression is highly regarded, and censoring someone for their opinions even if you consider them to be wrong(Very subjective) is quite appalling. Isnt it a bit hypocritical that you criticise liberal media but behave even worse then they do?
anon- I’ve watched this blog go through its growing pains – not as long as some here but long enough to make a decent retort to your complaint –
as a reader – reading down the comments – if there is one after another after another of cruel small minded and just plain nasty comments against the blogger – which believe me, happens – its like it attacts more of the same type of commenters –
Well, its a good way to divest the entire readership of good comments – its like this anon –
Jesus and his disciples were walking down the road, and they came upon a dead dog’s carcass – and the disciples all turned away their heads – but Jesus said – “Try to find the good in everything, even this – look for instance, at how white the dog’s teeth are”
Same goes for us too – if we find the good then not everyone is happy, but no one is miserable, as they become when there is abounding negative energy on a comment thread – especially against Saker – as it his blog and his expenses and his time and his patience and his feelings that are being demolished by rude nasty comments.
Now I’ve had my say, even though no one is looking at this thread anymore.
Wrong!! I read your last line. LOL.
Actually the whole comment. Right! ( on ).
This has to be one of the worst pieces I have read by The Saker, an author who regularly puts out very succinct writings with factual basis.
I can understand his logic for voting for Trump but the conclusions for such logic fail miserably. Trump for all intents or purposes was and still is nothing more than a loud-mouthed buffoon who couldn’t find his way out of a paper bag with a map designed in comic-book style.
Given this I have been very surprised to see how easily he folded and took up the same militaristic policies of the Obama administration but in a far more dangerous manner. As The Saker stated, Trump was quite consistent in his campaign when speaking about military interventions in other countries. Nonetheless, this 180 on such dangerous ground demonstrates the man’s complete incompetency, which must have been evident as well in his business dealings.
Though I also completely agree with the assertions that Sanders was an abysmal fake, the same cannot be said of Jill Stein who I saw engage in some fairly tough interviews. She held her ground excellently and was able to riposte quite effectively.
I never saw Jill Stein as a “fake” but more as a completely incompetent campaigner who spent her meager resources foolishly. Nonetheless, her policy prescriptions were quite sound and many were backed up by good economic thought. Of course, if by chance had she been elected she would have been as ineffectual as Trump is dangerous with a Congress that would have disallowed her to accomplish anything.
None of this makes her a “fake”.
The problem with the American voting public is that they have not yet come to the conclusion that the only way out of the current political nightmare is direct action against the US government. There are only two ways to do this. You can use violence, which is what the public is rightfully frightened to do (and it usually has not resulted in historically better outcomes) or the public can begin to force all of the “progressive” organizations that claim to be fighting for the public good to stop concentrating on their single issue programs and begin to adopt a unified program of the single cause towards the dismantling the current US government. Together such organizations have the funds and a more cohesive approach would put terrible pressures on the government to clean house and replace the current spate of looser politicians with new governing mechanisms and processes.
So far, all I have seen is tepid analysis of the current situation, which has been repeated ad-nausea. We all know it is bad so what are we going to do about it? Protest? Write another essay? Call your representative?
Again the best way out of this mess is to begin targeting these progressive organizations and force them to cooperate with each other towards a single goal. There are many good people involved in such groups but right now they are too divided to be of any value to anyone…
First, Jill Stein played the system for millions of dollars. She is hollow.
Sanders sold out for a third home.
Enough of the “progressive, enlightened left”. Chavez took a nation that could have fed steak to everyone and turned into Maduro mash, half garbage dump diet, half gruel with a bitter taste of petroleum.
And good people dominate the planet but evil rules it.
Read a little history. Goodness doesn’t triumph easily or for very long.
Killing the evil people is an imperative. They don’t go away on their own.
You can’t vote them out. You can’t disarm them (they have the armies and armories).
There are a million or so Elites on the planet who are moving toward a transhuman existence. That has to be exposed and debunked.
And if you want to change things, offer ideas without personally attacking others whose ideas are not yours.
Since your comment includes many clues to the fallacies of your conclusions, begin with “buffoon”. Trump made it to the WH. He has proven over his life that paper bags (your designated challenge) are for lunch, not obstacles. Trump got sandwiched by forces you are failing to note. Saker noted them clearly.
No President since Eisenhower has not been caught by the Deep State and Zionist pressures, the MIC and a corrupt and tyrannical government. One man, even if he had a massive party (or Movement as in Trump’s case) can wield much power when it isn’t his power to wield. It is Executive Power that resides outside the Oval Office, in the name of the Presidency, but far from his grasp. When those forces turn against a President, he is fortunate not to be JFK’d.
Get real. And don’t attack without a damn good analytical basis and a brilliant game plan.
One Single Goal is the magic? Sounds like FB or Twitter notations.
Life on Planet Earth is far more complex than that. Or Buddhism or Maharisi’s TM would have taken root in everyone.
It’s like the young people today who don’t have a clue. “I’m just chillin’,” they say when you ask what are they doing with their life. In other words, they don’t have a clue or a path and can’t find it anywhere on their SmartPhone.
Aha! Now we have One Single Goal.
Start a blog and an App and let’s see how you beat Saker and the Vineyard.
WACO was a BURNT OFFERING of Christians to Hillary’s OWNERS.
So America has piously sworn to punish those who use chemical weapons, but Hillary is praised by Trump instead of “Lock Her UP!”
A reminder — Hillary “We came, We saw, HE DIED ….. LOL” Clinton
Illegal gas was used to incapacitate 76 American Citizens who were then burned alive because they DARED to defy the Clintons for 90 days …….
The BUTCHERESS of WACO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UdfN8hZQvI&feature=youtu.be
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/01/hillary-ordered-final-massacre-at-waco.html
Monday, January 27, 2014 Hillary Ordered The Final Massacre At Waco By Robert Morrow
Hillary, not Bill, not Janet Reno, not Webb Hubbell, not Vince Foster was the one who ordered the final assault. Final death count: 76 Branch Davidians, including 21 children and two pregnant women. The nature of the attack in Waco also indicates that a Christian minority in the compound was targeted solely for religious reasons.
The chaos in Syria was winding down. The TRAITORS in the Pentagon spent 18 months at $10MILLION a DAY hitting nothing. ISIS continued to hold miles long parades of OUR equipment complete with flags on clear, dry, sunny days, and the TRAITORS in the Pentagon “could not seem to bomb them”. ..
https://forzanuova-us.org/2……..
http://original.antiwar.com…
Then the Russians came in and blew the ISIS asses off. Have you noticed the parades ENDED.
ISIS has ZERO antiaircraft abilities. the TRAITORS in the Pentagon could have dropped bombs from HOT AIR BALLOONS ……. We KNOW who the Pentagon is working for and it is NOT America.
That would be a “tragedy” for Turkey and Israel who are BOTH genocidally flooding White, CHRISTIAN Europe with muslum invaders …………. that war had to get going again …..
Israel and Turkey dream of splitting Syria between them ….
(1) Turkey/Erdogan, dreaming of a new Ottoman Empire, wants Syrian land, Erdogan wants to complete the CONQUEST of Europe that was stopped by SOBIESKI in 1683 …..
(2) Israel grabbing Syrian land for “greater israel”, creating hell on earth while clearing enemy population from around it’s borders and —-
(3) America, the “MASTERBLASTER” from the movie “Thunderdome” a giant moron ridden on and directed by Twisted Jewish Dwarves ……..
Who PROFITS? Who benefits by clearing enemy populations away from their borders so it can steal land for “greater israel” while genocidally flooding CHRISTianity at the same time.
Israel does not have the NUMBERS to flood Europe so it uses the muslums as SHOCK TROOPS. What do the Jews think of JESUS? “As for Christianity, there is a dispute among Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry …. Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.” Read that last bit again: “Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
https://demstuermer.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/who-is-behind-mass-immigration.png
There is no way that millions just start migrating out of the Middle East into Europe because of a sudden impulse to do so, some very powerful supporting group is behind this and it simply is not clear what would be the motivation for such a massive invasion this mass movement of people across European borders IS genocide:
Send in all these healthy young male muslims under the guise of refugees. Refugees are women and young children and Older men. These young males should be fighting for Their Country. Instead….like I saw posted in the comments section of one of the links posted…..they are a Trojan Horse for some future escapade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpnYpQaHAuc&feature=youtu.be — mass migration
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3724/7236/original.jpg
Who has the most desire to empty the Levant of Arabs and send them packing to Europe. You kill so many birds with that one stone it’s irresistible.
http://russia-insider.com/en/isis-calls-backup-israel-attacks-syrian-army-positions-near-damascus/ri19004
http://thegoldenreport.net/a-biblical-storm-aimed-at-jerusalem/ here Jews are actively AIDDING the invaders.
Who killed Christ and has HATED His followers for 2,000 years?
Who picks for these candidates in the first place? The people must choose their own candidates so that they don’t have to vote for the lesser of evil. I believe that is the original problem. The fact remains that Trump from the beginning affected his campaign speeches by looking unprofessional using negative and strong words on immigration, Clinton, building walls, etc pushed the true liberals away from him. Still, it is good he won.
What is not clear is he may have been tricked by shady advisors or he may not have been truthful himself to the public his intentions once he is in office. That will remain to be his secret. Because, how could he not know the serious threat he would be in once he is in office and impose policies that the neocons don’t like? Right now, he is either in trouble from the neocons trying to pull him under their control or he is in on it. On the other hand, the opposition he experienced from MSM and he accusing the MSM rightfully, as fake news makes him more truthful. Hope he wins against all odds if he truly stands for the people.
Trump’s campaign was more pro-Israel than Hillary’s. Why would the “ziomedia” be so vehemently against him?
Im not convinced of your logic….we are now facing bolshevik zionist like russia did in 1917.
The simple truth is that all of America’s presidents fort the lasst 100 years have simply been puppets of the Zionist global elite conspiracy. Votes have never been counted or reported accurately. Puppets are selected, not elected. Nothing couod be more obvious. So implying or suggesting otherwise is simply dishonest and disingenuous.
The Zionist global conspiracy has overplayed its hand very badly. Every thinking man and woman in America now has no excuse not to know the truth: that everything our government and media tells us is a con and a lie. Anyone not filled with rage and fury over this fraud and speaking out against it in the strongest of terms by now is immoral and spiritually dead.
This story does not have a happy ending for most people. Nor should it. Most people have tolerated and compromised with that which is evil for far too long. YHWH (God) is filled with rage and fury over mankind’s depravity and tolerance for evil. And soon, Yahushua (Christ) will return to tread the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of almighty God upon the wicked, in perfect fulfillment of the prophecy of Revelation 19:15.
The moral to this story is that YHWH is very real and the KJV of the Bible is 100% trustworthy, true and reliable. We are living in the bitter last days of the end times of Bible prophecy. The great tribulation has already come and gone and very few people even noticed it. Soon comes the wrath of a holy, just and righteous God who has had just about enough. If you haven’t also had enough, then you are part of the problem.
I didn’t want Hillary, voted for Trump and the Repubs thinking she would win. I didn’t want her to win by a landslide. The day Trump reversed himself, launched missiles into Syria, and declared Assad must go was the day I jumped off his train which I was never really on in the first place. Trump was a bait and switch scam artist who won the presidency because Hillary was so repulsive. The only good news coming from his win is that we don’t have to listen to her. The bad news is Trump, just like Obama, is not a man of his word. American voters once again have been swindled. Trump should do the country a favor and voluntarily step down.
Excellent article! Still optimistic and Trump needs to reopen 9/11. The Israelis were involved. It would end the true terrorism in the world. The greatest threat is the Talmudic mindset or Jewish supremacists
Thanks, Very good assessment and summation of the Trump vote. However, a Palace coup may exist in the Whitehouse or President Trump and the people around him are smarter than we think. I reference Voltairenet.org’s Thierry Meyssan reporting on the Trump foreign policy. There may be several layers of an offensive operation coming out of the Oval Office, where we would be surprised by the targets and actual agenda; among which is to stay close to Russia and Iran. It’s just that public appearances have to be kept political correct for now. The British have been particularly insistent that war is necessary now. France may have felt the UK’s anger expressed in terrorist attacks. We, the bewildered, as a result of information received from the MSM, can only perceive from the one dimensional, ‘objective’ narrative and our sense perception. Your thoughts
I believe it is wrong to see the Democratic Party as an alliance of minorities. There were – a few decades ago – and it made sense for example to do some things extra for blacks who tended to vote en massa for the Democrats and who live also concentrated so that they form majorities in some voting districts.
But nowadays you hardly hear the Democrats about Blacks. They are part of the deplorables that they don’t care about very much. Also they take them for granted as they have nowhere else to go as the contempt of the Republicans is even worse.
Instead the Democrats – and progressives al over the Western world – are increasingly looking like a kind of religion. Homosexuals form an estimated 5% of the population and for only a small fraction of them it is the deciding issue in their vote. Transgenders are even more rare and irrelevant. What matters at the voting booth is that there are so many people – who often don’t know a single transgender personally – for whom it has become the deciding issue in projecting their “progressive” identity.