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11.12.2014 Ukrainian crisis news. Latest news of Ukraine, Russia, Germany

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  1. Ann on December 12, 2014  ·  at 1:16 am EST/EDT

    Yes, that’s the worst thing that can happen in Germany…right sector.

    but its awful that Islamic people are being targeted by nationalists…after all, we, the white race has caused this huge migration of arabs towards the west.I’m sure they’d rather be in their own countries…but we’re there…blowing up everything..

    So we have to shelter the Arabs now, or get our F**king governments and military out of their countries. There can be no immigrantion laws until they can go back to their own countries.

  2. Anonymous on December 12, 2014  ·  at 1:26 am EST/EDT

    Central Bank of Russia tries to destroy Russian economy?

    http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/11-12-2014/129285-central_bank_russian_economy-0/

  3. Kat Kan on December 12, 2014  ·  at 3:53 am EST/EDT

    @ ann “…but its awful that Islamic people are being targeted by nationalists…after all, we, the white race has caused this huge migration of arabs towards the west….”

    In Germany, most of the Muslims are Turkish. From the 1960’s they were imported (by arrangement with the Turkish government) as guest workers, later being allowed to bring their families. There are now about 3 million of them there now, and they are subject to some discrimination, including violence, especially since times have changed and former workers are now unemployed. And they are easy to recognise, unlike other European minorities, so they’re the prime target for the nationalists.

    This adds some colour to Germany’s views about Turk Stream.

  4. Anonymous on December 12, 2014  ·  at 6:46 am EST/EDT

    Ann said…12 December, 2014 01:16

    “but its awful that Islamic people are being targeted by nationalists…after all, we, the white race has caused this huge migration of arabs towards the west.I’m sure they’d rather be in their own countries…but we’re there…blowing up everything..

    So we have to shelter the Arabs now, or get our F**king governments and military out of their countries. There can be no immigrantion laws until they can go back to their own countries.”

    Us and them. Why is sheltering Arabs something “negative”?

    Anyway, one of their best tunes on the matter:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbeqj-1XOo

    вот так

  5. Jonathan Jarvis on December 12, 2014  ·  at 10:15 am EST/EDT

    Russia’s State Advisor, Director of The Institute of Problems of Globalization, Doctor of Economics, author Mikhail Delyagin tells Anton Chelyshev on Komsomolskaya Pravda radio that Ukraine is preparing a new large-scale anti-Russian provocation. Article in Fort-russ published on December 11, 2014. Basically radioactive waste in Estonia etc added to NATO imported nuclear waste,transported to Donbass so ukr army can set it off and claim it as rus nuclear attack. Good article too-read remainder. Reminder USA claiming yesterday of possibility of nuclear weapons missiles in Crimea-excuse for ukr to act with NATO?

    “The US authorities intend to spend 73.7 billion dollars on military operations abroad in 2015, world’s leading publications report.

    Apparently ?excellent interview programme with many participants of renown re ukraine on rtr planeta last night /evening.Might be worth trying to check out.Other livestream tv channels listed here too on the www.

    Russia is currently considering the possibility of initiating a draft decision of the UN Human Rights Council on the protection of Christians in the Middle East and North Africa
    “The Financial Times report on December 10 said the IMF believes Ukraine needs as much as 30% of GDP worth of financial support – the $17bn committed by the IMF and an additional $15bn, and that the IMF is not prepared to provide this sort of cash itself.This passes the buck to the EU, say analysts, but the EU has no facilities for massive lending to non-members. It has already lent Ukraine €1.61bn in 2014, with a further €2bn planned for 2015, which already counts as an extraordinary support measure for an external country.”
    Lithuania it seems going all out to host NATO military hardware on large scale-ready for …..? Did Senate vote for the $640m loan guarantees Thursday for ukr? USA says IMF must help first to fix economy-but if IMF won’t, then defaults to EU who says no….wot happenz next?.
    New usa bill authorises military aid $350m. to include armour piercing weapons.

    There are claims that AFU forces are digging in some 15 k’s away from demarcation lines.

    http://iouco.tumblr.com/
    “NATO has decided on an ‘all-or-nothing campaign’: to seize all of Ukraine or, failing that, destroy the restive southeast, obliterate its population and productive capacity and engage in an all-out economic (and possibly shooting) war with Russia.”
    “The number of Ukrainian military service members has increased from 130,000 last year to today’s 232,000 and plans are to increase the number of armed forces personnel to 250,000,” Poltorak said, speaking at Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine’s parliament. Sounds peaceful? What pay?

  6. Jonathan Jarvis on December 12, 2014  ·  at 11:56 am EST/EDT

    http://rt.com/news/213547-who-ukraine-health-crisis/
    very serious report from WHO re health care in Ukraine east, eg mental patients dying of cold, hunger, this more than a humanitarian crisis. no vaccinations against epidemics etc…….”When millions of children suffer the effects of war…Politicians think strategically and [are] often removed from the battlefields and suffering of ordinary people. Conflict situations demand political solutions, not more weapons,” Atle Dyregrov from the Children and War Foundation told Sputnik Thursday.

    “MOSCOW, December 12. /TASS/. Russia does not need Mistral helicopter carriers, as the country is not expected to land troops anywhere in the near future, a Russian official said on Friday.” says prefers the money back(which France nor NATO can afford BTW)- I disagree-might be needed in Black Sea area, Moldova, sea of Azov, could be using for defending/protecting local populace under attack, removing refugees, acting as hospital/aid ships eg Syria.

    QHA) – The EU will strengthen its sanctions against the tourism industry in Crimea, as well as the exploration of oil and gas on the peninsula, Reuters has reported, citing a draft decision by the EU. Really going to help the situation isn’t it.
    Also-Heads of the UNPO and FUEN has called on Vladimir Putin to assist in ending of Human Rights violations in Crimea as well as to create a dialogue with the Mejlis-well they have been given a new parliamentiary facility very recently.

    U.S. ‘troubled’ over Crimean leaders visit to India.
    (QHA) – Turkey does not recognize the de facto situation in Crimea, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu announced during the OSCE Ministerial Council in Basel, Switzerland 5 Dec-mixed messages? “The crisis in Ukraine and around it should be solved by a compromise, but at the same time, it is necessary to respect the territorial integrity of the state and its independence.”

    (QHA) – The gas pipeline connecting the Republic of Crimea with the Krasnodar Territory of Russia will be laid under the Kerch Strait in 2018- as part of new Turkey pipeline scheme.
    The Russian government has ordered that all WWII veterans from Baltic nations who fought against Nazi Germany should receive lifelong pensions from the Russian state in the currency of their choice. Nice gesture.
    Russ Security Council-. “The meeting participants expressed deep concern over the continuing extremely tense humanitarian situation in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions,” Peskov said.

    “We will never pursue the path of self-isolation and we are ready for cooperation with the countries of the West and the East based on respect of mutual interests,” Lavrov told the participants of the “Dialogue for the Future: Russia and World Around” scientific and educational program Dec 12

    Montenegro not permitted to join NATO -still wants to apply sanctions? Maybe Merkel really afraid of the Balkans which is why she cowtows to USA…….On Wednesday, Kaspersky Labs’ Global Research & Analysis Team reported a new cyber espionage campaign primarily targeting Russian companies in major sectors, such as oil, finance, military or engineering, as well as Russian embassies.Kaspersky Lab named the campaign Cloud Atlas and claimed it is most likely a successor to the so-called Red October espionage. According to reports, the campaign also targets companies in Belarus, Kazakhstan and India. . For five years Red October had been transmitting information from various diplomatic, governmental and scientific research organizations around the world, but primarily in Russia.

  7. Anonymous on December 12, 2014  ·  at 7:46 pm EST/EDT

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/12/12/is-kaliningrad-natos-real-target/

  8. Anonymous on December 12, 2014  ·  at 7:51 pm EST/EDT

    Indian anglophile class -especially indian english language media -is a race of Coolies and traitors.
    The same class of Indians who are doing propaganda against china today are the same people who forced Rajiv Gandhi in December 1987 to make friendship with china(and recognise Tibet as part of china) why-? because the usa had ben friend with china since 1984 and wanted India to be friend too as opposed to russia.-therefore the Indian parasite class made the Indian foreign policy viz china not to suit India but to suit American interests-it is doing the same but in revere direction this time because their Anglo-American masters want them to do so. the same Indian elite class (for example the president of Ranbaxy ,a sikh, chairman of FICCi some mr. singh at the time in 80s was vehemently opposing any defence increase of buying of defence equipment while asking for friendship with china BECAUSE IT WAS desired by usa in MID-80s). the same FICCi is making propaganda against DRDo and(with 6% of defence budget) and Indian scientists saying it has not kept the development of innovations and kept the 50 yrs. old mig 21 not in shape!.)

  9. sasy on December 12, 2014  ·  at 9:09 pm EST/EDT

    Anonymous asks, “Us and them. Why is sheltering Arabs something “negative”?”. What’s negative is sweeping statements.In a nutshell, I reckon, 1) immigration in a time of boom is not immigration in a time of crisis, 2) gradual immigration has a different impact from
    rapid immigration , 3) immigration for economic reasons differs from
    immigration as a refugee, 3) immigration with a view to settling in that country differs from immigration with a view to moving on. The Internet and charter flights also tend to act against cultural integration. So, I reckon under certain circumstances, the disadvantages may outweigh the advantages.

  10. sasy on December 12, 2014  ·  at 9:12 pm EST/EDT

    Anonymous asks, “Us and them. Why is sheltering Arabs something “negative”?”. What’s negative is sweeping statements.In a nutshell, I reckon, 1) immigration in a time of boom is not immigration in a time of crisis, 2) gradual immigration has a different impact from
    rapid immigration , 3) immigration for economic reasons differs from
    immigration as a refugee, 3) immigration with a view to settling in that country differs from immigration with a view to moving on. The Internet and charter flights also tend to act against cultural integration. So, I reckon under certain circumstances, the disadvantages may outweigh the advantages.

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