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16.12.2014 Ukrainian crisis news. Latest news of Ukraine, DPR, Russia, EU, NATO

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  1. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 2:29 am EST/EDT

    FYI, a good cool headed view of the situation in RF and Novorossia. I have been following Yura since about the same time I discovered The Saker blog – since the fall of Slavyansk. The guy was right every time in his predictions and interpretations.

    http://yurasumy.livejournal.com/

  2. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 2:54 am EST/EDT

    Perfect video! The crises just is begin

  3. StevenStarr on December 17, 2014  ·  at 4:19 am EST/EDT

    The news coverage on the Ukrainian Freedom Act is focusing primarily on the sanctions and is missing a much more important point, which is:

    the Ukrainian Freedom Act will grant Ukraine, Moldova, and Georgia the status of “major non-NATO allies” to the US.

    This makes Ukraine eligible for direct military assistance from the US; it also may make it quite possible that the US and NATO would come to its aid under Article 5 of the NATO charter, should Russia choose to invade Ukraine.

    Note that the bill authorizes $350 million in military equipment that includes: “anti-tank and anti-armor weapons; crew served weapons and ammunition; counter-artillery radars to identify and target artillery batteries; fire control, range finder, optical and guidance and control equipment; tactical surveillance drones, and secure command and communications equipment.”

  4. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 5:33 am EST/EDT

    What a pity you went over to films. I’m old-fashioned and can’t get my adobe flash player to work.

  5. Hoffnungstirbtzuletzt on December 17, 2014  ·  at 7:53 am EST/EDT

    Lavrov statements once again scared the Russian bloggers/LiveJournal political scientists. Blogger ‘Friend’ dissects Lavrov’s statements to calm their fears.

    People who periodically confuse TV series “Home 2” with the war in Donbass, send texts for Strelkov/Gubarev, and demand to bring in troops to the TNT channel, – are particularly paranoid. Their paranoia progresses so quickly that in no time they will be mortified by just the word “Ukraine,” in response reciting: “Putiiin Duuumped, La-La-La-La-La-La! Putiiin Duuumped, La-La-La-La-La-La”.

    A special case of such a fright we discuss below. But honestly, we would not be commenting on it, if in addition to words which caused panic among LiveJournal ‘political scientists’, there would not be very important and fundamental statements.

    “If you are really concerned about one issue or another, always start with a review of the primary sources of information. The transcript of the interview of Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov to “France 24” can be found here ( http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/29C0BA2F20252442C3257DB000502785. )

    We highlight a few things that caused some noise and have essential implications.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.co.at/2014/12/how-to-read-lavrov-between-lines.html

    ” This is a super important part of the interview. If we move away from the agenda of the day, and to analyze Lavrov’s words strategically, then how can we interpret the statement “we have overestimated the independence of the European Union and even some separate large European countries”, made in the context of the fact that the USSR was destroyed under the guise of Russia’s entry into Europe, and all the subsequent twenty years, Russia was prepped for entering Europe? And in 2014 it is fully revealed that Europe is not sovereign and there will be no entry.

    This is a fundamental and fatal call, the answer to which can only be a return to itself – the Russian Messianic Empire.”

  6. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 8:12 am EST/EDT

    Time has run out for Russia and Novorussia. Act now or die. Socialism, communism, state capitalism – the only solutions available. Now – tell the West to get fucked, reform the Soviet Union. At least then we will be able to enjoy the knowledge that one good thing was done before the Amerikan Nazis nuke the planet.

  7. Medievil on December 17, 2014  ·  at 8:21 am EST/EDT

    Australia shouldn’t throw in its lot with the United States, but preserve itself from Washington’s reckless overreach. US Russia policies are a case in point why, says the former Australian PM (1975-1983)

    http://russia-insider.com/en/2014/12/16/1921

  8. NoBC4U on December 17, 2014  ·  at 9:04 am EST/EDT

    Someone with a good understanding of Russian might want to look at this. It was posted with an English article stating that a Ukrainian sergeant claims it was a Ukrainian missile that bought down MH17.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTaCbmX4ffQ

  9. Alien Tech on December 17, 2014  ·  at 11:55 am EST/EDT

    The US is tryign to see if Russia will do anything with Gold bakced currency and testing the waters. The US is desperately short of Gold and have leased them out many times over. If there is a crash the US will never recover financially. IE they would lose all leverage on the markets and currency and trading they have a monopoly on now.

    Traders (AKA the PPT) Betting Russia’s Next Move Will Be to Sell Gold

    Russia holds about 1,169.5 metric tons of the precious metal, the central bank said last month. That’s about 10 percent of its foreign reserves, according to the London-based World Gold Council. The country added 150 tons this year through Nov. 18, central bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina told lawmakers.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-16/traders-betting-russia-s-next-move-will-be-to-sell-gold.html

  10. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 11:55 am EST/EDT

    British soldiers ‘mistreated’ 9 Iraqi detainees inquiry finds
    ….
    hahaaaa Our British values….

  11. Alien Tech on December 17, 2014  ·  at 1:53 pm EST/EDT

    Looks like we can breath easier on Syria. Now that Turkey is not allowing the fee syrian army to get paid, they might just wither away and Turkey will drop support for ISIS as well by the look of things. And from the look of things, EU, Qatar, Israel are all knee deep in the pipe without a way to pass the gas.. Putin bitch slapped Merkel.. The only way a Nazi Fraulein ever learns her lessons.

    Erdogan speech indicates deep rift with EU

    “The EU should not intervene in acts taken by the police and judiciary against entities that jeopardise our national security. It should mind its own business”.

    “They cry press freedom, but they [the arrests] have nothing to do with this … We have no concern about what the EU might say, whether the EU accepts us as members or not, we have no such concern. Please keep your wisdom to yourself”, he said.

    http://euobserver.com/foreign/126932

  12. Alien Tech on December 17, 2014  ·  at 2:01 pm EST/EDT

    Looks like the engineered price drop by JPM with consent of Saudi Arabia is backfiring. Seems Russia and Iran are willing to take the pain and will take Oil to $40.. The only country that this dont affect in the short term is Saudi Arabia since they dont pay anything to their Shi’ite citizens and treat them as cattle. The other GCC countries dont have the luxery.. As Russia said, the US will intervene to raise prices after 6 months. But that wont work with both Iran and Russia cooperating.. If the Saud’s cut production and US shale oil blows up, countries like Venezuela and Iraq will take that market share. So its a real sticky wicket here. No one can cut production and the shiites can withstand a lot more pain than the sunni’s are after all only experienced in inflicting it.

    Oil traded near a five-year low in New York as Russia reiterated that it will keep crude production steady next year, echoing OPEC’s strategy of refraining from curbing supply to tackle a global surplus.

    Iran is said to be offering shipments to Asia at the deepest discount in at least 14 years, according to four people with knowledge of the decision. Iraq may revisit its oil-production plans, the country’s Deputy Prime Minister said today in London.

    National Iranian Oil Co. will ship light crude to Asia at $1.80 a barrel below a regional benchmark in January, according to the four people. Its official selling price for December was at a premium of 13 cents. Similar discounts were offered earlier this month by the state oil companies of Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-17/oil-trades-near-5-year-low-as-russia-mirrors-opec-output-policy.html

  13. Wim Roffel on December 17, 2014  ·  at 2:43 pm EST/EDT

    Friedman (Stratfor) has an interesting claim: In other gatherings, with the senior staff of the Institute of International Relations, I tried a different tack, trying to explain that the Russians had embarrassed U.S. President Barack Obama in Syria. Obama had not wanted to attack when poison gas was used in Syria because it was militarily difficult and because if he toppled Syrian President Bashar al Assad, it would leave Sunni jihadists in charge of the country. The United States and Russia had identical interests, I asserted, and the Russian attempt to embarrass the president by making it appear that Putin had forced him to back down triggered the U.S. response in Ukraine.
    http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/viewing-russia-inside

    Maybe Putin has a too big mouth for his own benefit… Sending nuclear arms to Crimea and holding a military exercise near the Baltics gives me the feeling that Putin may be getting confused. With his country facing an economic problem one should expect coolheaded moves to handle the problem. Instead Putin seems occupied with unrelated stuff.

  14. Anonymous on December 17, 2014  ·  at 8:06 pm EST/EDT

    Putin will rue the day he betrayed the novorussia by ordering ceasefire against ukis by the novorussia forces just before minks agreement – all just to please his Anglo partners!
    all this would have been settled in favor of Russia 3 months ago if not 6n months before.
    this is the greatest weakness of russia- too much procrastination, illusion and indecisiveness

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