Let me begin by saying that I am not a big supporter of Konstantin Dushenov. Without going into a long detailed discussion about this, let’s just say that I don’t consider myself a nationalist. However, I will readily admit that Dushenov makes some excellent points and that I do agree with a lot of what he says. This time, I decided to post his short commentary about Islam to show that in Russia, even the hardcore nationalists are very pro-Islamic, at least by European or US standards. There is an (apparent) paradox here: the Russians fought the Takfiris in at least 3 extremely vicious wars (Afghanistan, First Chechen and Second Chechen) and yet after 35+ years of fighting the Takfiris there is no Islamophobia in Russia. Amazing no? In the West, all it took to trigger an anti-Muslim hysteria was a few false flags, and millions of westerners immediately bought into the “Islamic boogeyman” canard. Russians fight Takfiris in wars far more brutal and violent than anything experienced by the US/NATO militaries, and yet they do not indulge in Islam-bashing.
What do the Russians know which folks in the West apparently ignore?
I leave you with Dushenov’s comments on this topic.
Cheers,
The Saker
“, even the hardcore nationalists are very pro-Islamic, at least by European or US standards. T”
-Actually, that seems to be fairly common among “hardcore” nationalists, the softer W.European nationalists tends to be “counter-jihad” and have a very simplistic view of islam, basically “Clash of civilizaton” perspective, while more “hardcore” nationalist tend to have a deeper understanding of islam and only oppose wahhabism and of course continued islamic mass immigration, but generally want to ally with countries such as Syria and Iran. BNP is for example considered to be a somewhat “hardcore” nationalist party in W.Europe, being perhaps something like FN in France.
And Nick Griffin supports Syria and Iran against neocon/liberal aggression. He even claims to have written a letter that swayed the UK parlement from voting on bombing Syria, if this is true or not I am too lazy to verify, anyway here is an example of western “hardcore” nationalist view on islam, Syria and Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsIVJq14doo
Where can you read more about this guy in english, and a bit OT but anyone know an english site were you can read up on Russia parties registered for the coming elections? I hear elections laws has been changed so more parties has been able to registered, it would be interesting to see what ideologies are represented
People living in the US cannot see their own feet without being told by the MSM whether they exist first and then how to feel about them.
Our citizens have their emotions, thoughts, and urges dictated by a litany of fear-inducing, lie spouting information pulp fiction – taking the forms of television “programing” (which introduces tropes and memes in-line with US propaganda goals (https://jaysanalysis.com/2016/07/31/star-trek-beyond-distinctions-sjws-in-space/ ; https://jaysanalysis.com/2016/07/31/the-geopolitical-logos-hollywood-atlanticist-hegemony-jay-dyer-on-itel/), online and televised with uniform POVs and fake coverage as needed for their agenda (http://www.prwatch.org/fakenews/execsummary ; https://www.corbettreport.com/politics-is-fake-and-staged/).
Even our Mcdonalds corporate diet, which is slowly being clawed back to sensible organic ingredients, induces physical fatigue, lethargic behavior and an weakens ones overall ability to achieve ones self-interests capably.
Fools, like yourself, generalize about an entire populus. Tell me, Nils, when was the last time you lined up and faced the forces that bleed.
The difference between the west and Russia’s perception of Islam is based on ethnicity. Muslim’s in the Russian federation are from contiguous regions and countries, who ethnically look much the same as Russians. Western Europe has experienced mass immigration from every corner of the planet, making people feel like aliens in their own country, with cities becoming patchworks of ethnic no-go zones. Russia has not experienced this, yet?
European (and the US) perception of Islam has nothing to do with migration. It goes back centuries. It is based on the prime motivating idea of Western “civilization” which is white supremacy. This notion of racial superiority does not underly Russian civilization hence the Russian ability to view other civilizations and races as equals or at least as having value in their own way.
The entire edifice of Western civilization, rests on a foundation of racial superiority, white supremacy. Racism which provides the motive force of domestic Western politics and imperialism which motivates Western foreign policy, both spring from the same source: white supremacy.
And superseding the Western idea of racial supremacy, the real power controlling the West is in itself a race that inherently believes in racial supremacy, that being the Jewish race. A race that that has been trying to conquer and undermine Russia and the Eastern Orthodox Church for millennia now.
Russia has not experienced it because it didn’t allow it to happen. Just compare:
1) to enter Russia, you need a visa and there are border checks. The EU has weak border checks and migrants get in all the time (then can’t get deported easily)
2) to live in Russia, you’re required to speak russian. There’s no such requirement in the EU (which doesn’t even have a common language as it’s too diverse)
3) to live in Russia you need to obey the law and be properly integrated. EU is a joke regarding that. For example last week they allowed a muslim to marry a 14 years old girl in Germany, bypassing local laws. There are also many NGOs that encourage migrants to NOT give up their culture but encourage them to impose them on the locals instead. This only creates problems. They also get stacked into lawless and poor ghettos and convince them they’re hated because of “racism”.
I am afraid that is not true, Russia has over a hundred different ethnicities and most of them look different from each other and certainly different from European Russians. European Russians only constitute around 78% of the Russian population.
And if you look at the Russian nationalist scene, you find that Russia wants the same as nationalist in W.Europe, that is to unite with Russia and create as Putin puts it “A greater Europe” a union from Berlin to Vladivostok.
The reason for this is that Russia has suffered just as W.Europeans have under multiculturalism, aggression by none-Europeans against Russians has made Russian more pan-European than say nationalists in Ukraine and Poland, which are 99% homogeneous and are still stuck in ethnonationalism, where they want to fight other Europeans.
Both Russian, W.European nationalists have moved beyond ethnonationalism and now and desires a large union between European peoples, trading, sharing technology, fighting terrorism, and this due as you say, to the experience of a massive influx of non-Europeans that both Russia and W.Europe has suffered, the situation is the same in USA. Where nationalists wants to work and support a fellow European country, and with the rise of Trump, hopefully it will happen.. And Poland and Ukraine cries for war against Russia is seen as nonsense.
I also feel I must point out that the articles claim that Russia is not “islamophobic” is also incorrect, Moscow in itself contains more skinheads then the rest of the western world put together, at least Russia did in the 1990s, just google “Russian nazi bash muslims” on youtube and find endless of videos of Russians beating up and attacking muslims.
Muslims gangs or asian gangs or “caucasian” as they are called in Russia tends to move to big Russian cities, bribe the police and then get away with all kinds of illegal behavior, including attackin, killing, robboing, and raping Russians.. Just a few years ago 50 000 Russians demonstrated against the Russian police protection of one of these muslim gang members for killing a Russian. As a response to general muslim/asian behavior and of course the wars, a strong hostily has developed towards muslims and people of the caucasus in Russia.
Things might have decreased lately as the conflict against muslims is largely over and I assume Russian propaganda does all it can to generate nation-wide unity as well as the USA coup in Ukraine and war in Donbas probably has generate a lot of unity. Thought make no misstake, the average Russian is much more anti-islam then the average western and there is no Russian that does not seethe with anger when thousands of muslims blocks the streets in Moscow and so forth.
I know this comment will likely be censored because it does not match the reality the author wants for Russia, but that is nevertheless the truth.
One of the strengths of the Russians is that they are not an arrogant people…
They are not like the Nazis and obsessed with race, racism and discrimination……and the few that are, are just reactionary people or have learned and picked up ideas from the Western Nazi ideology…
Russians are smart and know what is good for them and know how to defend themselves..
In the interests of full disclosure I am a Pakistani Muslim.
Many of them are racially quite different. Indeed West Europeans would be (genetically and phenotypically) closer to (ethnic) Russians than say Mongol(oid)/ Turkic citizens of the Russian Federation.
I agree with some of the others: Russians as a nation are not arrogant albeit race conscious (but there is nothing wrong with the latter). Modern Western Civilization is led by those whose arrogance fills the beautiful sky with darkness.
The huge new mosque in Moscow was opened with great Government respect and to me that underlines that the russian federation is also an enlightened and tolerant state. Much is being made of the possible shift of Erdogan towards Moscow. Is he just playing off between the west and east and can the russians trust him? One thing he could do to show a change of heart is to return the Hagia Sofia to the Orthodox church for reconsecration. It is not a tourist attraction and over 500 years of blasphemy to holy ground is quite enough in my opinion. Isn’t this, and tolerance in general, the heart of the rift between these two nations?
Every Orthodox Russian is a great nationalist out of necessity because he has always been surrounded by countless mini-nationalists. Without these Russian Nationalists there would no Russia today. Russian nationalism has historically been benevolent because of Orthodoxy. That is the distinguishing factor that is always overlooked.
The “arabic” numerals and the invention of zero are from India. The arabs refer to the number system as “hindu” numerals since they got it from the indians, and the europeans refer to the number system as the “arabic” numerals since they got it from the arabs.
And where do you think the Hindus got it from ?……
Just type Chinese tech and inventions on wikipedia—> 2 or 3 full pages
type Islamic tech and inventions —-> :))) many many pages from math to philosophy to pychology..
And the ‘Arab’ mathematician who introduced them Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (latinized as Algoritmi) was Persian. Al -Tabari, the Persian historian, called him “al-Majūsī,” (the ‘magus’), Zoroastrian.
The other great Persian mathematician (and poet) Omar Khayyám who made fundamental contributions to the philosophy of mathematics has been often denounced as a heretic, straying from the path of Islam and had to defend his views in front of the mullahs who frequently accused him of atheism, as being to well “versed in all the wisdom of the Greeks” and as insistent that studying science on Greek lines is necessary. Not to say anything about his celebrated fondness for wine!
Avicenna, one of the most significant thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age was a Persian too.
Point taken and all that may be so, but the point was Islam not Arab. i.e. were they muslims? was the civilization and the state which permitted them to discover, find, invent, transmit etc these valuable concepts and knowledge islamic? was it a tolerant state and civilization?
Ngoyo,
This is my dilemma too. Civilization was spreading out way before Islam in the ME. Who originated numbers, beautiful architectures, geometry? For sure, the evidence in Italy/former Rome shows modernization/civilization. But the numbers, architectures, existed in ME as well. It is probably a combination of Greeks, Armenia, ancient Egypt and Rome. All these at one time were allies/collaborated before Islam and Western civilization. It is possible they got the idea from India, China and ancient Egypt since those three predate the latter (5000 years), not sure where Persian empire comes in. Pharoah Egypt is definitely the link the transfer of civilization from India and China to Europe (Rome, Greek, and Armenia and Assyria) as evidenced Greeks lived in ancient Egypt (Cleopatra was Greek who was the queen of Egypt who fell in love with Rome’s warrior Mark Anthony. If Western Hollywood’s correct:-)). I read once Germans being Assyrian descendants. For sure the clue for today’s chaos is in the past hidden history the winners never want us to find out. If we did, we would be living in peaceful world because we learn from past mistakes no matter how ugly it was
But Islam was Arab, wasn’t it? The science they permitted was not.
BTW, have you noticed that the loquacious bearded man doesn’t know the name of the genial ‘Arab’ mathematician who thought of ‘zero’? Perhaps because it was thought by the Indian mathematician Brahmagupta some 200 years before Al-Khwarizmi.
Actually most of the arab scientific discoveries came from Greece, that was then translated into arabic and then re-translated back in latin and Greece hundreds of years later in Europe
No, the Arab, Persian scientists(all Muslim) took the very basics from the greeks, heavily modified them, made them so much more practical. Also, how about the totally new theories and discoveries. There is no denying this. Removed. No attacking other commenters. Mod
History shows that the Islamic Golden Age lifted the Christian west out of ignorance, malaise and barbarism. Here are just a few brilliant geniuses’ who are owed an apology. The renaissance and enlightenment were a direct result of Islam. The pragmatic and open minded Russian state and people know this. Take a look :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhazen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Averroes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avempace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Jafar_ibn_Harun_al-Turjali
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Tufail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Zuhr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_scientists_and_scholars
This is but a small sample of the brilliant minds that advanced the destiny of mankind. Before them , the western peoples were barbaric and even recycling their own feces. And what does the Islamic world get in return….bombs, coups, subversion, subjugation, colonialism, racism and dishonesty. The list goes on forever. The Russians are smart, they know that to make an ally of Islam (which is here to stay, sorry to burst you bubbles) , and together, united, will throw off the Judeo-faux Christian crusade.
The Renaissance was not a ‘direct result of Islam’, but of the resourcing at the fountain of Greek philosophy and science through Byzance (which was actually the source of the vaunted “Islamic Golden Age’). The Greek science never disappeared even during the so-called Dark Ages, although diminished (particularly because the Islamic raids and conquest severed for a long time the contacts with Byzance). Universities were not a ‘direct result of Islam’. And if Enlightenment was a direct result of Islam there is nothing to boast about, let alone to be grateful.
As to France and Belgium at least, not only a few false flags, but also decades of totally irresponsible immigration policy doubled by total resignation of judiciary system, topped by the bien-pensant state intellectual terrorism, leading to a growing number of people behaving in total irrespect of local culture and people. The latter went glowingly pissed off even before the sudden rise of terrorist attacks. These imported cultures being different enough for the average folk not to be able to make differences between them.
Correct. And some of those invasive cultures are not Muslim at all, but Christian (Romanian Gypsies, some Albanians, various African groups) or animists (Africans again) or not religious at all. And amongst the so-called ‘Muslims’ you will find a huge majority of what Soral calls ‘Islamo-racaille’ (Islamo-thugs). As for the biggest Muslim country on the planet (Indonesia) – it is not represented at all.
But, as you say, the average folk cannot distinguish between all these different groups.
Cheers!
Thank you Saker. You always come in at the right time and say exactly the right thing.
Thank you Saker, for your pragmatic, non-racist approach.Removed. No attacking other commenters. Mod While the Faux Christian -Judeo west is locked in a death battle with Islam, the east is rising. Good luck with that I say, being that almost one out of five people on Earth are Muslim. Russia understands this. Good for them.
Romanians are not Gypsies and Gypsies are not Romanians. Gypsies are a ‘Human Rights’ high priority, actively promoted by the Soros gangs.
“The International Romani Union (Romani: Romano Internacionalno Jekhetanipe) is an organization active for the rights of the Romani people. Its seat is in Prague
The IRU was officially established at the second World Romani Congress in 1978.[1] Its presidents have included Stanislav Stankiewicz, Emil Ščuka, and before him, Rajko Đurić who held this office for many years. The Spanish organisation Union Romani is affiliated with the International Romani Union.
The IRU aims to represent all of the world’s Romani peoples; to help encourage their continued cultural and linguistic development; to help resolve a variety of economic and social problems faced by Romani peoples; to connect the work of different organizations and countries toward these ends; and to support human rights for all.
@Wikipedia
“Roma and Travellers are among Europe’s most excluded groups, facing widespread discrimination (and often segregation) in many areas of life including housing, education, employment and health.
The UN Human Rights Office, which chairs the UN Regional Working Group on Roma, works in a number of countries to strengthen the effective exercise of human rights by Roma and Travellers. It does this through supporting work to develop government policies on Roma inclusion, strengthening the capacities of Roma – and in particular Romani women – to take part in local, regional, national and international decision-making, as well as by working to challenge patterns and practices of discrimination and abuse.
The UN Human Rights Office also leads the civil society group on Roma health, which enables Roma activists to comment on UN, European and national policies in this area.”
@http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Minorities/Pages/UnitedNationsRegionalWGonRoma.aspx
“NEW DELHI: Following external affairs minister Sushma Swaraj terming people of the Roma community spread across the world children of India, an international conference here concluded on Sunday with a call to recognize them as India’s diaspora.
“Roma people are an Indian nation, the autochthonous territory of southeastern and western Europe, but also in other parts of the world, with all attributes that make them a special national entity,” Jovan Damjanovic, president of World Roma Organization, said at the three-day International Roma Conference and Cultural Festival 2016 here.
“We would like to be treated as the Indian diaspora and can make a contribution to our country of origin’s growth,” he said at the conference organized by the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) and the Antar Rashtriya Sahayog Parishad (Bharat).
Inaugurating the conference on Friday, Sushma Swaraj said: “You are the children of India who migrated and lived in challenging circumstances in foreign lands for centuries. Yet you maintained your Indian identity. A strong 20 million population of your community spread over 30 countries encompassing West Asia, Europe, America and Australia speaks of your unique ability of adapting to foreign cultures. We in India are proud of you… welcome you with an open heart.”
Said to be descendants of nomadic groups in northwest India like dom, banjara, gujjar, sansi, sikligar, dhangar and others, Romas are known as “Zigeuner” in Germany,”Tsyiganes/Manus” in France, “Tatara” in Sweden, “Gitano” in Spain, “Tshingan” in Turkey and Greece, “Tsigan” in Russia, Bulgaria and Romania and “Gypsies” in Britain.
A resolution adopted at the conclusion of the conference on Sunday called for people-to-people contacts between Indians and Romani people to be encouraged.”
@http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/Call-to-recognize-Romas-as-Indian-diaspora/articleshow/50999163.cmst
Gypsies were treated as refugees from ‘xenophobic, racist, countries’ like Romania where the “Roma” people are discriminated (especially under the influence of the Orthodox Church which is also anti-semitic). Their elevation to the status of ‘victims of the Holocaust’ boosted their claims.
Their high visibility in Europe is due to their principal occupation, beggars on the streets and pickpockets.
Romanians are less visible because they work (on working visas) and tend to return home.
The attacks by Islamic terrorists are catchy, but not important,
What is important is that political correctness is disappearing. This is slowly changing newspaper coverage and public discourse.
[From today’s Belgian press]
“Jihadist mother” freed despite seven reasons why she is dangerous.
There is strong criticism of the release of the “jihadist mother” Fatima Aberkan (55). The judgment states at least seven serious evidence of guilt against the terrorist exist. The past four years at least seven other condemned jihadists have also been allowed to walk free.
“Jihadists Mother ‘Aberkan from Schaerbeek was sentenced in April to 15 years in jail for her active role in the Islamic State terror organization, including the recruitment of fighters for the war in Syria. However, she has appealed this decision. In anticipation of that appeal, the Brussels Indictments Chamber released her last week. The chamber recognizes that there are seven reasons why the condemned is dangerous. Amongst others, she posed armed in front of an Islamic State flag, she traveled regularly to Syria and she played an active role within the Islamic State. However, the court considered that it was sufficient to impose her some conditions. She can not surf to jihadist web site and she has to complete a de-radicalisation course. Her release was not further motivated.
N-VA MP Kristien Van Vaerenbergh says the decision “beggars belief”. “The judgment is flawed. There was absolutely no reason to let this woman walk free.”
The case Aberkan is not the only surprising justice case. Since 2012 the court has already released seven condemned jihadists. In each case, the court had the legal means to keep them behind bars.
I only listenened to about 40% of hos speach. He. used a cultrual marxist discurs, which for me is unacceptable. If this fool represent many nationalists in Russia, I will be very sad and dissapointed. My Hope that Russia in the end will help to stop Islam taking over Europe is fading.
I think instead you should be more worried about the Jewish take-over of Europe. As far as Europe is concerned, you reap what you sow. If not for your interventions etc in the Islamic or third world(sic)there would be no problems now, would there. Europe has become a ‘nation’ of crybabies.
Islam taking over Europe? stop watching TV….its judaism thats taking over Europe if you have not figured out, its the influence of jews in Europe that made you believe Islam is taking over Europe. If you only stop bombig muslim countries and remove military bases on islamic lands, there will be no muslim living in Europe, why would a muslim live in Europe unless you made him leave his country to escape what you created in his country.
The 5 million Muslims in France did not come yesterday fleeing bombs. The Grand Mosque of Paris was founded in 1926 as a token of gratitude, after World War I, to the Muslim tirailleurs from France’s colonial empire, of whom some 100,000 died fighting against Germany. The mass immigration from Maghreb for work in France started in the 1960s, fleeing rather the ‘liberated’ Algeria.
True, nationalists see their future as the union between orthodox christians and muslims. Muslim community have the same point of view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u89757DNmYs
Thank you for sharing this great video and to the Russian brother.
Just an important correction, in the Arab world we call them al-arqam al Hind, because they are from India, and not the “Arabic numerals” as the Western Europeans call them, for once that they gave credit, they got it wrong ;>)
The polymath Ahmed Al-Biruni among his voluminous work wrote a book titled
“Tazkira fi al-hisfib w’al-madd bi al-arqam al-Sind W’al Hind” – Description of arithmetic and system of counting with the numerals of Sind and India).
Kadyrov, the President of Chechnya, says: Vive our Great Motherland Russia! Vive our national leader Vladimir Putin! Allahu Akbar!
I am not sure, but wouldn’t it be proper for the Russian Federation to give the title of President only to the one in the Kremlin, and the other heads of their respective state/province/republic the title of Governors or other titles besides Presidents. Just my political opinion.
Yesterday it was Reds under the beds. Today it is Muslims – whatever we mean by that term. Tomorrow it will be anyone who believes in God or whose moral standard is not sufficiently flexible to meet the changing dictates of political correctness – or just those whose worldview does not fit neatly into one of the little boxes created for us to inhabit in lieu of thinking for ourselves.
@SamGerrans
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/354940-political-correctness-finished-muslims/
“shares HIS opinion…”
cheers
fabien
Great. I totally agree with that this man says. I don’t see a future without an alliance between orthodox christians and muslims (I am talking about the true enlightended and tolerant Islam of course, which is as far from wahhabism as Hillary Clinton is far from truth and reason.)
One detail: the prophet Mohammed spent very little of his life in war, and only defensive wars against people who came to crush his small muslim community sheltered in Medina. The taking of Macca at the end of his life when the muslim community was strong enough cannot be counted as a war as there were no fighting.
Russia is a different civilisation than western Europe.We dont have a history of a muslim population in our countries.Our populations are homogenic.What we do have is a history of wars with muslims.Multiculturalism failed.All i can say that i am fine with the Russians as long as they dont want to impose their model on us.The muslims will leave Europe either by force or peacefully or its the end of the west.The russians can voice their opinion but should stay out of our internal affairs as we nationalists in the west will stay out of their internal affairs.Our intrests with Russia is a stable peacefull post imperial order in Europe, security trade,tourism and the defense against common threats.
Are you planing to force all those europeans who converted to islam and had kids in europe to leave too?
Please close down this conversation. Mod
I would accept this alliance between muslims and orthodoxs if the first gave Hagia Sofia back to them
When the second calif of islam ruled, muslims took over Jerusalam. The Calif Omar (ra) was offered to pray in the church and said ”sorry, it is appreciated you offer me to pray in your house of God, but I should not, if I do God knows people after me will come and turn it into a mosque”. This is what islam says about turning churches to mosques..unlike what the fake islamic ottoman empire did.
As a muslim I do look forward to that day when NATO has no place in constantinopole and that muslims will return ”Hagiasofia” to its people.
The Russian people are a well educated people…..
For this reason they know that the so called Muslims they fought were extremists who were backed by the US-Zionist alliance and their corrupt Arab allies.
The Russian people know that the Western-Zionist alliance has two enemies, which are the Orthodox Christians and the Muslims.
The Zionist Jews and their Godless Western (so called Christian) allies want to destroy all Muslim and Arab lands for greater Israel, this same alliance wants to subjugate the Orthodox Christian Russians.
This alliance brought wars and later Communism to Russia to destroy Christianity in Russia and to destroy and kill its people….and they have failed after slaughtering millions of Russians.
Now it is time for this alliance to slaughter and destroy as much Arabs as they can, unfortunately with the help of the corruption of most of the Arab leaders.
It is only natural and logic that these two groups will form an alliance based on common goals interests and understanding against the evil Godless alliance.
We are now in a moment in history where the world is ruled by a Godless Western system imposing the secular nation states…….
After this entire system collapses, which can only happen through a nuclear war (since a simple economic collapse is absolutely not enough to achieve this) and destroying a substantial part of the Western civilization…….only then will the world be realigned once again based on religious grounds, and their will be formation of religious alliances.
People who have no religious background or insight, where their spiritual faculty or sense is not functioning…..cannot comprehend what is about to unfold, let alone properly make sense of the complexity of what is happening around them.
However, for the people who are in search of the truth, in search of justice, in search of righteousness and balance…..for these people, by their very nature, they will reignite their spiritual faculty (that they have always had)…..and this is why you see many people reassessing religion, seeking the truth, even after growing up most of their lives in Godlessness.
And who is Amen but the Sun god. The Lords Prayer ends with Amen Amen…that is…a first Amen at dawn and a second at dusk…the Muslemman of old bowed to the Sun until some time after the death of Mohamed when the Muslemman was taught to bow to Mecca.
A Pity the Russianman has forgotten from where and on what basis he earnt the title of Rus…red…but a look into the heart of Siberia will uncover the red and white dotted attire of the Shamen and with not much more curiosity from that discovery what that attire signifies.
One of the great tragedies of the fall of Allepo besides so much else of grief and despair was the loss of the Allepo library inwhich was lost the only copy of a history of the Rusman Viking sojourn in Africa, the present day Middle East and the Mediterranean. The only traces of it left can be found in a book entitled – A Mediterranean Civilisation.
If you want to understand what that might have once meant search the Internet for images of Anatolian Marble Idol with Child.
Son of Man eat this red scroll…and I did and it were sweet in my mouth and bitter in my stomach…Ezekial…Revelations…etc
The Lord’s Prayer was written in Aramaic and the ritual phrase amen comes from a word amuna– root meaning ” I believe” .
Language etymology can be tricky and I like the example of the cross cultural pun–English/French-which has several levels of cultural/linguistic meaning:
One man’s meat is another man’s poisson.
Christ was not referring to the Sun God but was more like sealing the prayer….”so be it in faith”
I do think Russians can relate that when the Bolsheviks took over and communism took over their culture was destroyed. I would go as far it is thanks to Mr Putin Russia is finally recovering and regaining and building back up their culture.
The West has been betrayed by our own politicians big time and don’t care working for the 1% pillaging and destroying everywhere they go as long they can live luxurious. Mr Putin is not of the mark that Russia is fighting the old Nazi from WW2 in a new package named Neo Cons.
Paul Joseph Goebbels might be dead but his legacy is not. Westerners and Muslims alike are victims of this horrible agenda. Both camps have hate feed into them by the bucketload.
Hate is never a good thing but both camps have legitimate reasons to do so and sadly that what makes this strategy so effective. Both camps will have to be eaten more by Nazism itself before they understand they have a different mutual enemy to combat.
Bizantura,
Also, what I have come to understand that the very creation of communism as godless is in order to justify killing without the feeling of compassion, altruism and humanity. Under commumism, a billion may have died throughout the world which is a clever way of depopulation.
Saker, you wrote: “there is no Islamophobia in Russia. Amazing no?”
I’m afraid you may not have looked up the results of international polls. Please refer e.g. to this one: http://www.pewglobal.org/2008/09/17/chapter-1-views-of-religious-groups/ which dates back 8 years, but must still be largely relevant, since these things change slowly.
The results regarding opinions of Muslims in various countries are summed up in this graph: http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2008/09/Report-3-2008-09.png
which puts Russia at similar level of favorable/unfavorable views on Muslims as other European countries, or the U.S.
In Russia, 56% expressed favorable, 32% unfavorable view of Muslims, that is 56 – 32 = +24 score
Which was the same as France +24
Less than the US +33 or the UK +40
More than Germany -10, Spain -11 or Poland -19
Altogether no different than the “average” Western European, Central European or North American country :-)
Note that in 2014 http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/12/chapter-4-views-of-roma-muslims-jews things had only changed a few, as appears in the graph: http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2014/05/PG-2014-05-12-EU-4-02.png
French and Germans had more positive views of Muslims than six years before, +45 for the French while Jihadist attacks had already begun (Merah in Toulouse targeting soldiers and Jewish children)
Spaniards had evolved to balanced view +3
Nothing specific in Russians’ outlook on Muslims, I’m afraid.
Pew research polls? are you kidding. That’s a Zionist organ. No one can take them seriously.
Russian priest praises the Muslims ( Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_1oRMeumP4
Regards,
Carmel by the Sea
I cant get enough of this noble man. Where can I watch more of his show.
Being a Muslim myself, I would like to say . Long live Russia, her Church and People.
The world needs more like this man and people from the Muslim side like Sheik Imran Hosien.
The Muslim world and Islam in general , Russia and the Orthodox church are facing the same enemy. Together we can prevail against the Judeo-faux-Christian alliance brought to bear against us.
As far as the Chechens go, the leader of Chechen Republic, Khudarov? is a loyal adherent to Putin and Russia and has sent his fighters to fight with their brothers in Donetsk, etc. This is the spirit. United we stand, divided we fall. The man in the video is absolutely correct.
I wish I knew how to dedicate my life to this call, and effort. Salam. Oh yeah, I also believe that Constantinople should, along with the Sophia church be returned to the Eastern Orthodox , Russian people, along with an apology as soon as possible, as a sign of good will by the Islamic world. Turkey needs to be broken up, as it is run by Turkish jews/influenced by world Jewry.
Simple explanation here. Neo-fascist-fanato-islamists don’t move to Russia. It’s true that Russians probably aren’t getting agitation propaganda about Islam all the time, but they also aren’t having to live with consumerist freaks from Dubai who just moved to North America to strengthen support for a war against Iran. Why should I like someone who moved here to start a war in his “home country” and doesn’t give a drop of crap about what’s happening here, where we actually live? Moreover, incentives are given to hire these people. There being here is literally taking food out of low-income workers’ mouths.
The Islamofascist like the ukranazi, both cultivated in North America, are not such likable people. These people tend to confirm negative propaganda. They tend to imitate American TV culture rather than community and local culture. That’s how they fit in: i.e. they don’t fit in. As a result, they hitch up with other foreigners being programmed for war, and oddly, with homosexuals, also programmed for cultural warfare. All of these groups are essentially full of unlikable people.
@ jeffdavids:
“Simple explanation here. Neo-fascist-fanato-islamists don’t move to Russia. It’s true that Russians probably aren’t getting agitation propaganda about Islam all the time, but they also aren’t having to live with consumerist freaks from Dubai who just moved to North America to strengthen support for a war against Iran [..]”
You hit on another aspect as to why Europeans are fed-up with Mohammedans in general.
Filthy rich arabs buy prime property all over Europe, and because they have petro-dollars to burn (which they didn’t earn), they tend to outbid, or pay above the asking price, in turn, pricing locals out of the housing market.
Those properties are empty for most of the year, and the ones that are not, are sliced-up and converted into multiple apartment occupancy, for renting purposes pushing-up both; house prices AND rents.
Now, why are they allowed to do that, particularly when planning permits in Europe are so restrictive, and since listed buildings (there are millions of these in Europe. BTW; ‘listed building’ means: it’s old and deemed a national heritage) are considered to be untouchable, and therefore unmodifiable. It’s anyone’s guess why these arabs are allowed to do whatever they want with them.
I suppose truck-loads of bribe money solves that problem :/
So, the locals see that rich arabs strut around like they own the place (well, that’s because they do!), they come over only for holidays bringing their flashy super-cars with them (some of them are gold-plated, literally! You can imagine how such grotesque display of undeserved wealth goes down with a population being force-fed austerity measures…), they flaunt every traffic-law known to man. Yet, they never get a ticket, they don’t even pay road tax, to the point some of them don’t even bother with displaying a registration plate.
You try to drive around in a vehicle without a number plate on it. You will get stopped by police, ticketed and your car would be confiscated and duly crushed as part of your punishment.
On the other end of the spectrum: people see low-end Muslims (in full Muslim gear, mind you), slowly but surely taking over their most affordable neighbourhoods.
This often results in the locals eventually moving out of that area. That’s how this so-called ghettos get started, and I’ve said “so-called” because these are not low-end apartment blocks, these are regular, suburban areas.
So, the locals can’t go to the rich areas, because a) they can’t afford them and b) it’s full of rich Muslim (the very ones they’re trying to get away from).
They can’t go to the cheaper areas because they’re full of Muslims, or blacks, or both.
They can’t stay in the somewhat affordable areas because the Muslims slowly take it over.
Where are they supposed to go? It’s not nice to feel like you’re a nomad in your own freaking land! And I say that as an immigrant myself. Why? Because I can totally empathize with their predicament.
If anything like this would be happening in my home-country, I would go Nuclear and my fellow country-folk would also be fighting against such preposterous situation, it wouldn’t be just me.
Plus, whatever government in power at the time that is allowing the displacement to happen, would be facing a violent overthrow, and I’m pretty sure we would have the back-up of the Military too.
Our military is well known for being xenophobes. Don’t wince at that statement, we’re not a ‘politically correct’ country. Never were, and fingers crossed; we’ll never be.
So, all in all, I’d love to see how Russians would put-up with what Europeans are being forced to put-up with. Chances are; Russia would be facing a violent second revolution.
-TL2Q
“These are Satanists not Islamists.” Similarly the Pharisees were claimed by Jesus as having Satan as their father. Jesus never claimed that they were not true Jews though, he strived to show that physical/ ritualistic worship is no longer acceptable but rather a pure heart is. As with Islam there are many sects in Judaism including a militaristic one called Zionist (using different warfare tactics compared to ISIS). Both ISIS and the ZIonists are minor sects of their respective religions but have a considerable approval rating. Both have fairly recently infiltrated their religions and have stamped themselves into the Jewish/Islam subcategories with the help of wicked religious leaders and covert agendas to slip their way into being accepted. The dangers of having a religion based on rituals and repetitive acts as opposed to bettering one self are plain to see, where evil can find a home for itself as long as it follows certain rituals and chants.
Jesus came to do away with physical worship because it was clearly causing more harm then good and a new system was needed. Jews rejected the new system, arabs created their own system that even the Jews thought was archaic. A religion created by man which can be revised by man should have no room in todays world.
ISIS is not a recent infiltration of Islam. ISIS’ roots were established in the first century of Islam. That root is the Khawarij – some translate that Arabic word to ‘outsiders’, but I think a more accurate word is the ‘exiters’.
As for rituals and repetitive acts, all revealed religions came with ones. Rituals are but an outward manifestation of the inward belief of the follower of the religion. Think of it as a demonstration of belief. Rituals are God’s dictates to the believer to better one’s self (prayers, charity).
Satanists have rituals.
What ISIS does, does not relate to Islam one bit. If they do adhere to any rituals, I’m willing to bet they’re not Islamic rituals. Come to think of it, their acts are their rituals (killing the innocent etc)
I get a good vibe from Dushenov. He is a member of the informal brotherhood who refuse to be eaten alive by a soulless machine. Kind of bearded russian “Omega Man” .
Dear The Saker,
Sincere thanks for pointing to this video.
Dear Saker,
This video had English subtitles when i first watched it. Now it doesn’t. Do you know what’s going on?