by SouthFront
The most up-to-date information indicates the October 31 tragedy was the result of a terrorist act on board the Airbus A321. If that supposition is confirmed, and considering the reaction by the Russian authorities, one might say that Qatar finally got what it wanted—a war.
Incidentally, Qatar’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Khaled al-Atyya publicly threatened Russia with “World War Three”. We can’t speak for Russia, but as far as Qatari clans are concerned, the war is on.
Sinai is the zone of responsibility of pro-Qatari formations. There has existed an unwritten agreement between Egypt, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia on not allowing terror acts in Egyptian resorts. What is more, the agreement provided for timely exchange of information concerning any threats to the resorts.
If it is established that the A321 was destroyed by a pro-Qatari group, it will cause Egypt’s anger and Riyadh’s displeasure. There are all reasons to believe that, as a minimum, a few members of Qatari elite would have to pay for this with their lives.
But will the story end with dispatching a few highly placed criminals to heaven? There are reasons to believe that the Russian leadership is inclined to view the A321 incident as a direct declaration of war, similar to the 9/11 attacks on the United States. All terror organizations of a certain size are backed by this or that country or financial interest.
One should also turn one’s attention to Great Britain’s position. Almost immediately following the attack, London announced that the British secret services have intercepted telephone conversations among terrorists connected to the Islamic State. This information was being concealed from Russia. That’s why the Russian MFA sharply reminded the British that such information ought to be shared. “We are shocked at the fact that the British government could have some information which might shed light on what happened in the skies over Egypt,” said Russian MFA representative Mariya Zakharova.
We cannot make the claim that MI-5 and MI-6, and therefore also the CIA, had information concerning the terrorist attack prior to the event. But circumstantial evidence suggests there exists a likelihood this was the case. Granted, our information indicates that following a recent lengthy telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and David Cameron, the level of exchange of information between London and Moscow has increased.
In any event, the terrorist attack confirmed the necessity of renewing cooperation between West and Russia, at least on the level of special services.
As far as Russian leadership’s reaction to the confirmed fact of an attack on a Russian civilian aircraft, one should expect that its fight against terrorism will intensify. In practice it means increasing the scope of the military operation in Syria and in other parts of the world. It would appear that the emphasis will be shifted to a global war on terror, which implies attacking the sponsors and organizers of the radical formations.
The DWN reported that a British TUI passenger plane evaded a missle attack at Scharm el-Scheich while landing. They are unsure who fired the missle.
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/11/07/britisches-tui-flugzeug-musste-in-aegypten-einer-rakete-ausweichen/
tsuki, that sounds like disinfo after the fact (why was it not reported at the time?) in order to pretend that Western aircraft are being attacked (unsuccessfully, of course) by their stooges, the jihadists.
Thank you, Southfront but I find several statements somewhat doubtful:
“If it is established that the A321 was destroyed by a pro-Qatari group, it will cause Egypt’s anger and Riyadh’s displeasure.”
Is it not likely that the Russian intervention in Syria against Riyadh’s goals there completely overrides the supposed Saudi commitment to any “Egyptian resorts are off limits” prior arrangement? Any Saudi displeasure would seem to me to be an acting job to fool the credulous, therefore.
ALSO: ” the emphasis will be shifted to a global war on terror, which implies attacking the sponsors and organizers of the radical formations.”
Attack the local middle eastern terror middlemen sponsors or their Empire western sponsors? Since nuclear war is not the Russian objective, “expose” would seem to be a more accurate verb than “attack” for the western sponsors at the top level. Russia is attacking terrorists in Syria with airstrikes, and that action is exposing the fraudulent “coalition” which sponsors the terrorists and pretends to oppose some of them. I think this will intensify, while every effort will be made to avoid “attacking” US-UK other than by political exposure.of their complicity in creating terror as their instrument of pressure against resistance to their hegemony.
Anon, you cannot ‘expose’ the Western role in creating jihadist butchery. Anyone with any intelligence and curiosity has known with certainty since the 1980s, when the USA, Saudi, Pakistan, the UK and Israel created al-Qaeda, their loyal ally, in its various forms, ever since, that the West created jihadism for its strategic ends. But, as the popular mass is dull and completely brainwashed by a 100% propagandistic Rightwing MSM cancer, they don’t know, don’t care and, increasingly, are being goaded to a hatred of Russia and China so vicious as to be almost unbelievable.
“In practice it means increasing the scope of the military operation in Syria and in other parts of the world. It would appear that the emphasis will be shifted to a global war on terror, which implies attacking the sponsors and organizers of the radical formations.”
Should we tell the CIA to evacuate Langley?
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I welcome the effort, and am not critical of exploration of opinion and/or analytics by SouthFront.
But hard facts has been SF’s sweet spot. Attribution is a good thing and should be practiced.
Actually, I can see the day when the organization could grow into a very reliable news source of the multi-polar conflict zones. So I encourage the branching out.
In the “old days”,when a secret service of a country committed murders.Their agents were considered targets at all times and all places.Personally I’m an “old fashioned” type of person.If the Western intelligence services are proved to be involved in the plane bombing (if it was bombed).There should be no place on earth,and no rank of the agents,that should save them from retribution.So I don’t know about “the CIA to evacuate Langley”.But it might be appropriate for those officials to make sure their life insurance policies are paid up.And they have a good supply of Kevlar armor on them at all times.
kevlar doesn’t protect against polonium.
Anon, re. Polonium, are you saying that Mossad, the Polonium experts, will get involved? I doubt it.
don’t pretend that russians cannot send a message if they want
quote:
All terror organizations of a certain size are backed by this or that country or financial interest.
I think we all know who the state sponsors of DAESH are. As all gangsters understand, if you’re going to make threats, you have to follow through on them, or lose “credibility”, which means your ability to effectively intimidate people in the future.
What a fascist scumbag.
One assumes that the message intended by this threat, and the subsequent destruction of Flight 9268 and its passengers, has been perfectly received and understood in Moscow. What remains to be determined, is how they decide to react to it.
Yes, If the esteemed Mr Carter was simply making idle threats it was stupid of him, and he’s not stupid. He would seem to have had the golden three elements cops look for in criminal investigations, means, motive, opportunity. The Russians are probably going to see it that way, right or wrong. I notice that the Russians do not play tit for tat, but always act indirectly in a coordinated way, as advised by Liddel Hart and Mao and other experts. The Russians play to win, not for the game, but to win. This event, whoever “authorized” it, one might assume, will strengthen the voices of the “hard-liners” in Moscow. Their views are public and may be heard on youtube.
Daesh Carter.
Milosevic, the atrocity and the Western attitude, broadly hinting of their prior knowledge, and, in a typical expression of their evil, dead, souls, barely expressing any regret, while the MSM sewer is full of little metastases of ‘Western moral values’ gloating over the destruction or even blaming Russia or the hyper-active ‘Putin’ himself for doing it, is a declaration of war and murderous intent. When you check out the WSWS report of US Congressional Hearings a few days ago, where, in three hearings, the discussion was openly and, they being Yanks, boastfully, of the preparations for war with Russia and China, in the near future, you cannot avoid getting a truly sickening sensation in the pit of your stomach.
Thanks to South Front !!.
Your presentations have improved to a standard of high professionalism.
While H.E. V V Putin is President, Russia will play it’s own game, in it’s own way……neither he nor his security council, do ‘ad hoc’.
These are serious people…….all in NATO *lands* take heed !.
* vassals,debtors etc.
Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
for a loan oft loses both itself and friend,
and borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry
Will Skakespeare, Merchant of Venice.
Correction:
Hamlet, Act 1 scene 3….p 75-77
Shakespeare’s most ‘antisemitic’ observation. His treatment of Shylock, in contrast, was quite sympathetic.
But why would Qatar want to attack Russia (as opposed to helping make Syria a quagmire for it)? Is its proposed pipeline really worth the risk?
The pipeline is only a part of it (I know many think its “the” reason).But I think its the Wahhabi fundamentalism that is the driving force in these wars,as in the European Wars of Religion period.You have fanatic jihadis in this war that Western leaders and their stooges are easily able to manipulate.To them their branch of Islam is the only “pure” one.And Shia are total heretics to them,who must be converted or killed.When dealing with brainwashed ideologues reason doesn’t count.And unscrupulous people (the empire and stooges) can inflame them to do their bidding.
Salam Uncle Bob,
I cannot write much about it. The Qatari were (past tense) countering the threat of Whabbism through Muslim Brotherhood. They lost first and the other is loosing too. The days of sectarianism are over.
Rejoice,
Mohamed.
…which just brings us back to the question – why would Qatar want to attack Russia so directly?
Salam Ewan,
In the last two years we have lost 3 airplanes. 2 Malaysian and 1 Russian. All 3 are due to Israel.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
That very well may be so.It certainly isn’t something they “wouldn’t” do.They have basically no morally in their actions I can think of.It brings a sarcastic smirk to my mouth every time I read them refer to their army as the “most moral army in the World”.
Add Germanwings 9525, the alleged copilote suicide, 24 March this year. Remote controlled mountain crash. Anglozionist crimes all of them.
I get it. So, your answer is that South Front’s speculation is wrong. It wasn’t Qatar. It was Israel. You think Israel would risk an act of war against Russia to see if it might persuade Russia to leave Syria?
And why would Israel send a Malaysian flight off into the Indian Ocean? And what is the evidence leads you to your conclusion?
Salam Evan,
With the Sampson option, no one can think of having act of war against Israel. As far as Malaysia is concerned, that had their Supreme Court conduct Israel’s genocide against Palestinians.
The verdict, “Guilty as Charged”.
I don’t think Israel is very happy with Russia about:
1. Terrorist in Syria, Iraq and so forth are being routed out by Russia.
2. They cannot violate the Airspace of both Syria and Lebanon any longer.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
The “Samson” option, like any deterrent, is not for use. It’s a defence of last resort, not for everyday. Normally you want to be thought not to be messed with but still rational. An act of war against Russia on the assumption Russia won’t retaliate because Israel can destroy itself seems far-fetched.
What is the evidence Israel was involved? And what is the evidence for the Malaysian plane?
“What is the evidence Israel was involved?”
http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15282
Interesting speculation. There is potentially an infinite amount of such speculation. At least there is a good chance this time the investigation will determine what happened.
There is a strong “Masada complex” in Zionist ideology.Which is, “if we don’t get what we want,destroy it all”.That is what makes them so dangerous having nuclear weapons.I don’t know if they did the plane bombing.They certainly wouldn’t have a “moral” concern about it.But that doesn’t mean they “actually did it”.What I do believe is that they ,at least, knew that it was going to happen (or something like it).And did nothing to prevent it ,or warn Russia about it.The British said it was Israel that told them about the plot to bomb the plane.And I figure they informed the US as well.But “maybe” it skipped their minds to tell Russia.
Israel’s use of force has always been to further what it sees as its strategic interests.
Uncle Bob, if you Google ‘Samson Option’ you can see an extract from an opinion piece by a certain David Perlmutter, a ‘Professor’ and ‘aristocrat of humanity’ published in the LA Times in 2002. It said, in part,
‘Masada was not an example to follow. It hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza?What world serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter?’
Note ‘the Jew-hating world’, implying universal Judeophobia. And massacres are of course, only one-way, the Jews NEVER massacring any non-Jews, ever-isn’t that Holy Writ? And the cause of Perlmutter’s wrath was the reaction to Israel’s butchery during the Palestinian Second Intifada. No doubt whatsoever that Perlmutter didn’t shed a tear over the as usual far greater number of Palestinian victims, but with suicide-bombing, Jews, too, were dying, and THAT is utterly unacceptable. So we’ll kill you all, or whatever number will die in a nuclear winter, because you dared to criticise our habitual butchery.
Total disinfo.
This serves the Babylonian Talmudists.
South Front: Kogalymavia #9268. Some major ethical red lines have been crossed here and Russia as the new moral leader of the planet has quietly made them clear. First of all Russia has all sorts of intelligence sources in the midEast and knows what is going on; however, for a foreign government to tauntingly release intelligence information relevant to the death of civilians over MSM rather than quickly and efficiently through back doors if necessary is simply, in British schoolboy code, appalling. And the Russians established that calmly with dignity.
Also, as far as regarding mocking the death of innocents: some things in a human community are sacred. ( even in the middle ages people could claim sanctuary in a Church and nowadays churches, hospitals and schools still are supposedly off limits as deliberate targets in war) Again it was a Russian legislator who had to passionately and effectively point this out: Blasphemy an old word with added definition. Oh yes, these(Charlie Hebdo) are folks who don’t think people are made in the image of G-d ( as you define it) so anything goes. Well, the rest of us beg to disagree.
teranam 13, quietly pointing out that the West is morally evil and spiritually dead cuts no mustard. Western publics are so thoroughly brainwashed, so filled with raw hatred, of others, including one another and, often enough, themselves, that they are, in horrifically large numbers, making no attempt to hide the fact that they feel ‘Russia had it coming’. The lies surrounding MH17 have borne fruit with the worst type, and, today comes the next stage in the insane hate campaign. That Russians are the worst, in fact as far as a panel of Western, white, male stooges was concerned, the only drug cheats in sport, and must be barred from competition. So Western aggression has moved from boycotts (and you can bet your life that the 2018 World Cup will NEVER be allowed to proceed in Russia)to simply barring Russians from even competing. Lance Armstrong was, in fact, a Russian.
This post is really just Southfront speculating. What are the indications that Russia views this act as a declaration of war? We are not told. Why will Qatar be targeted? Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the US might be the culprits. Its all speculation.
Learn more about ongoing international issues and Qatar play in Sinai and ISIS. This post is really just “not-a-Southfront” forestalling. Read between the lines and wait.
What’s it all about? I found the following analysis by Dan Glazebrook particularly succinct–undoubtedly worth the very short read:
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/321159-plane-crash-egypt-terrorist/
Indeed, and as we know intelligence agencies don’t believe in coincidences.
I find Chris Bollyn’s research interesting on what may have occurred in Sinai http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15282 if only because there are examples of bringing down planes to assassinate individuals in our recent past that were made to look like tragic accidents. The technology used then was cruder but still effective…….. Remember Samora Machel in the 80s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9RWHhw5ai4 and Ron Brown in the 90s http://ron-brown-death.tripod.com/ To me there is a continuing thread which culminates in the perfect crime, they don’t even need to mention plausible deniability as it was an accident, or as a failsafe backstop they can now blame a bomb on board, ie terrorism. The sun though rises in the East which means that the Russian Bear is up early in the morning.
Does he mention they even took out a senator from Minnesota and his family? He was totally against the deception on Iraq and was the strongest opponent to it.
I came across an interesting post at Zerohedge which has ignited a burst of comments from the readership. It’s titled, “Krugman Doesn’t Understand Why “Darkness Is Spreading Over Part Of Our Society.” Perhaps it’s the realisation that everything you once thought was true about your homeland is actually an intricate lie; that the present increasingly resembles an Orwellian nightmare, and the future (if there is one) will actually be that nightmare. Ash Carter’s message seems to be that the Empire will either dominate or take the world down trying. 244 souls lost for a cheap political payback is the latest indication that the collective state of Western ‘civilisation’ is far beyond redemption.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-09/krugman-doesnt-understand-why-darkness-spreading-over-part-our-society
Carter’s attitude is a perfect expression of the spiritual evil and pathopsychology of the Western elite. We are ‘Chosen’ by God. We are ‘Exceptional’. Our ‘Western moral values’ are Supreme throughout space and time. Full Spectrum Dominance of the entire planet, then the cosmos, is ours forever. All other states, cultures, societies and civilizations must bow down before our magnificence, and do as they are told. This process, leading to a global hot war, became inevitable when Putin rightly criticised the doctrine of ‘American Exceptionalism’ as an abomination. The next step will, surely, be a ‘terrorist’ atrocity inside Russia, performed with amazing ‘trade-craft’ by the liver-munchers.
He’s scary. The more you delve into his background, the more you get really, really spooked. Deadly calculating guy hell-bent on preemptive attacks. His 24/7 wet dream is probably a simultaneous preemptive nuclear strike on Russia and China, for starters. His maniacal drive to overwhelmingly cripple an opponent when they least expect it, makes him the most dangerous man alive. Russia and China are logically constrained by this hyper-hostile posture to maintain their nuclear assets on hair trigger alert. The risk of a false positive is greatly magnified under such unpredictably dangerous conditions. Humanity is doomed to extinguish itself far sooner than most imagine with Ash Carter in the mix.
Misdirection alert!
“There are reasons to believe that the Russian leadership is inclined to view the A321 incident as a direct declaration of war, similar to the 9/11 attacks on the United States.”
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!
1. Our Russian Brothers and Sisters are already at war. No one can declare war on them. Love and Peace can be declared on them, but, certainly, not war. They are already at war. [Their air forces, soldiers, and militias are fighting on several fronts in Europe and Asia.]
2. The destruction of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11 was not a declaration of war, but, clearly, a False Flag, misdirection terrorist action by the Zionist/American Oligarchs, which served as an excuse for them to expand their wars against the Peoples of the Middle East.
Fourteen years and several million murdered Iraqis, Afghanis, Syrians, Yemenis, Libyans, and Palestinians, later, there are those still attempting to insinuate a view of “the 9/11 attacks on the United States” … “as a direct declaration of war”.
Pay attention here:
3. The 9/11 “attacks” were not “a direct declaration of war”. No one, or nation declared war on the United States on 9/11/2001. However, the terrorist False Flag actions of 9/11 allowed the Zionist American oligarchs to orchestrate a War Campaign of Terror Against several Arab Nations, among them, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, and Palestine.
The death toll is in the millions and rising.
The destruction of Middle East infrastructure is summed up in the hundreds of $billions.
The first shots of World War III have been fired.
They declare…. “A new war began on October 31…” (2015)
Absolutely not. No new war!!!
4. It is the same old war that began when our last Constitutionally elected President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and our Democratic Republic, was assassinated, in Dallas on 11/22/1963.
5. The Zionists and their underlings who shot Kennedy, took some chances. They never understood that history is Anarchism, and is highly unpredictable. They believed they could destroy Russia, their main moral threat, and replace their (the Zionist’s) Marxism with Anal sex, as a dislocating VISION.
*For informational purposes, I can care less about the sexual activities of 2 or more consenting adults. But keep it out of politics.
6. But, out of the ashes, arose the Phoenix, Putin (and his angry Russian friends). They have promised God to save Russia, and, therefore, they have absolutely no choice, no room for compromise, nothing left to sell.
7. They are determined, with, or without our help, to win this war.
Explain their moves in Syria, or the Crimea, by any other measure. Explain the unified zionist/ democrat/republican gang fury directed toward Russia by any other approach.
Explain that cartoon, —rejoicing— over the dead Russian civilian passengers falling from the sky by any other analysis (reread Orwell’s description of the parade of enemy prisoners in “1984”).
For the Democratic Republics!
IMAGINE
“They believed they could destroy Russia, their main moral threat, and replace their (the Zionist’s) Marxism with Anal sex, as a dislocating VISION.”
Haha — yes, faggotry really makes the West literally ass-backwards in its phase of terminal prolapse. But do keep in mind that people like Cameron are even more “advanced”. Remains to be seen how long it will take before the veneration of suchlike sexual preferences forms part of the West’s Holy Gospel of Humanitarian Interventions. Why stop at faggotry?
Mr. Antonsen almost gets it right,despite the bizarre nature of his main point on the subject, when he says, keep it out of politics. What he should have said is, do not allow the West to exploit gay rights in propaganda against Russia (but not Ukraine, or Saudi Arabia, or…) The West on human rights is hypocrisy. Removed.
Why removed? (Genuine question.)
Not sure what was removed. Do you know??
mod-hs
I dont know but I am kinda suspicious of the conclusion being drawn that this bomb was planted by whatever terror group.
I’m inclined to believe that the supposed sophistication if this act is beyond the capacities of these “rent-a-terrorist”.
This was an act of evil perpetrated by Israel/US/UK.
That is my humble opinion.
Yep. I find it especially scary that not Russia but the West was the first one to insist that it _was_ a terror attack.
What’s the motive?
A) Finally involving Russia in a lengthy bloody war (Afghanistan#2 aka Vietnam-style for Russia), which was planned for so long and never succeeded in Ukraine.
B) Can it be a distraction? The Western secret services and MSM are ridiculing themselves by realeasing info so quickly within a few days, while we are still waiting for similar “evidence” for MH17 and MH370 one and a half years later.
So despite making this obvious contradiction even more visible they nevertheless released such MSM stories and “we have evidence and proof” claims. WHY?
Could it be that it was “accidentally” shot down by Istael during this? :
Was the Russian Metrojet plane shot down by Israeli or American missile during “Blue Flag 2015” exercises?
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/11/was-russian-metrojet-plane-shot-down-by.html
I think you’re right Martin. We should consider the possibility that the bomb story is to vaccinate the public so they’ll resist the truth when it comes out.
The simultaneous war games across the border in Israel s/b looked at. But I have a question: Do they use live ammo in war games?
Maybe they believed if they said so, Russians would stop supporting the war against terrorists in Syria.
It very well could be that reason.And it could also just be because they were “pissed” about Russia spoiling their plans.And maybe a combination of the two,or even another unknown reason.But to me the bottom line is “if” they did it,whatever their reasons.
Yes, that’s certainly a possible explanation.
There is such ralk for a week now.
But imho a dumb strategy.
Because Russians and after a while and all of the continent will (hopefully) finally start to react like that: GLORY TO MARXISM-LENINISM ☭ Polyushka Polye (Rock) По́люшко-по́ле https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF-JaDzJ4dQ
(dreams of myself, a half asleep Zebra)
Martin, the West’s quick expressions that it was a bomb was an unsubtle hint that they knew so, because they did it. The garbage about terrorist ‘chatter’ without releasing any recordings or transcripts, was pretty blatant, too. Russia is destroying the terror armies that the West created at the cost of tens of billions to wreck the Middle East, then Russia, Central Asia and China, and that effort was the end of the beginning of WW3. The Western psychopaths cannot compromise. Like cancers they must grow their power and control, forever, until they dominate every state, economy, culture, civilization and sewing circle on the planet. Their psychopathy drives them on, remorselessly.
Mulga, yes, sigh.
And the western masses (not all, but the less intelligent 85%) are too busy waiting for the next iPhone or “Next SuperModel Show” or royal baby tabloid story, rather than finally … : Scooter – Move Your Ass (live 95) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07rdKM3V2E
In that sense they cannot come us any longer claiming “oh, we small individuals cannot do anything blah blah”.
Ok, in 2003 we were about ten Millions in many European cities who marched _against_ the US’s Iraq invasion, and we had a german Chancellor who refused to join the US/UK in committing these crimes. And did it help? No. Even without UN resolution the West invaded the ME, and now look how much blood had been spilled before versus has been and is being spilled now.
Anyways: MOVE YOUIR ASS, that’s also my message to the universe!!!
If there are 1 Million protesters each in front of the White house or downing street or Reichstag or Elysee, thhen the self proclaimed Elite has a problem. And the world is – if it goes under – at least doing so with pride and dignity. Hang those Frankensteins who have all this innocent blood on their guilty hands! That’s the only thing which will help to cure this planet. Was done like that for centuries and millennia. The only chance against cancer is to avoid most western medicine and to go after the cancer!!!!!
To correct myself: I know it cannot succeed for as long as we have “free and independent” western MSM. Because this will keep numbers of protesters low. And what happens in the free democratic West to small numbers of protesters could be seen many times, such as here:
Anaheim Police: Opening Fire On Women & Children + K9 Attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edh68jENrCM
Imagine such scenes had happened in Russia.
It would be “reported” about them for decades on every front page and every TV cover story.
In fact they are doing so despite the fact that such things do not happen in Russia, but in their own countries.
What a hopeless situation.
Sometimes one can almost regret that we here did not accept the rosa glasses offered by Morpheus.
However – to make life at least a bit more hopeful at least I do have these glasses here:
Ленинград – Ленин такой молодой
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP7LpUVUgqA
LENIN IS ALIVE!!!!!! ЛЕНИН ЖИВО!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZS7wVkV9Z4
“As far as Russian leadership’s reaction to the confirmed fact of an attack on a Russian civilian aircraft, one should expect that its fight against terrorism will intensify. In practice it means increasing the scope of the military operation in Syria and in other parts of the world. It would appear that the emphasis will be shifted to a global war on terror, which implies attacking the sponsors and organizers of the radical formations”.
I have always stated this. These psychopathic and satanic anti-humans are highly disposable canon fodder. Russia dispatches a whole bunch of them today another batch is being trained up and funded and armed by the scum hiding behind them and using them as a proxy army. You end up exhausting your resources on fighting the tentacles of the monster instead of grabbing the monster by the throat and hacking its head off, just like its proxy forces does. I am pretty sure this fact has not escaped president Putin nor the Kremlin.
On the subject of whether the British intelligence knew of the plan to blow up the Airbus beforehand I would even go one further and speculate that it might even have been MI6 that planted the explosive device on board, they are pretty adept at such malevolence. And the terrorists “chatter” that was supposedly picked up indicated that these had British accents. The more details they release the more they implicate themselves.
It has long been generally assumed by one and all that the UK plays the role of the poodle to its American “master” but I am lately beginning to wonder if that supposition is actually correct after all. What if the relationship is more one of the US being the cats paw of the UK ? What if the UK is the prime mover and the US the muscle ? Its worth thinking about. Whatever the truth is the UK is at least as equally culpable as the US in the myriad crimes against humanity committed in the name of “freedom” and “democracy” and “humanitarian intervention”.
This is the joke included in the above piece:
“In any event, the terrorist attack confirmed the necessity of renewing cooperation between West and Russia, at least on the level of special services.”
Sounds great. Somebody more suspicious than me would perhaps have preferred to see any such cooperation totally abolished ages ago.
The questions not being asked in Southfront’s speculations here is:
What does Qatar gain by attacking a Russian passenger plane?
&
Who does stand to gain from this attack?
Salam vot take,
Well said. The Egyptian army was allowed in Sinia but without military equipment. With the terrorists threat all that changed and Israel allowed them. Now Russia will be at their doorsteps in Sinia.
Russia is back in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemenn….
The Empire never had any business in Middle East. It found out it’s resources are being drained to the point of collapse. It decided to better leave now, than never…
Best regards,
Mohamed.
@ vot tak
You ask rational questions. Rational questions are meant for rational people. And that is where the problem is.
The direct perpetrators are not rational people, those are religious fanatics from that forsaken region, who have long ago crossed that line within which rationality applies, and are capable of deeds we cannot fathom.
The indirect perpetrators, the manipulators (and we do know well who they are), on the other hand, are actually thriving on chaos – the grander the chaos the better. It is not without cause that we speak of The Empire of Chaos! They have reached their imperial limits, plundering out dry their colonies and then their own countries, and today can fish only in murky waters where misery still can be found and amplified. Another phrase also comes to mind, promoted and applied by the neocons, “creative destruction”…
Disagree greatly with assertion of war being declared as WW3’s been ongoing for awhile–ever since the Outlaw Empire declared Vision 2020 to be its overall goal: Full Spectrum Dominance (how do you gain that without resorting to warfare of all sorts?).
As for Russian revenge, it has yet to exact such for the numerous acts of terror sponsored by the Outlaw Empire on its soil, but will it attack a “softer” (non-nuclear) power that’s clearly guilty? Given the context of an ongoing war and its penchant for following International Law, I doubt Putin would pull a Clinton and cruise missile the responsible country without recourse to the UNSC since such a move would destroy Russia’s most important media campaign aspect–obeying International Law without exception (nobody’s exceptional).
What’s lacking in this piece by Southfront is documentation of its assertions, thus rendering it pure speculation.
accidents happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRm5WcjOikQ
It has been said by at least one close adviser to Comrade President P that war between the US and Russia began last year with the coup in Kiev. Is this W3? Sure looks like it!
Outlaw, ‘International Law’ does not exist for the USA and Israel. They do anything they like, because ‘God’ says that they can.
Yes, war on Egypt started. The bomb attack is not mere act of terror but also multi-purpose strategic move. With this single move ISIS fulfilled following tasks: 1.To calm down its men in Syria disturbed by Russian bombing 2.To panic tourists everywhere = to destroy base of Egyptian economy which in turn means 3.To establish huge recruitment base amongst unemployed Egyptian sunni muslims. 4.ISIS can also start to blackmail airline companies around globe. BTW, what the hell means the “safe flight altitude” above 6km – planes won’t launch and land any more?! The only reason, why ISIS didn’t use a MANPAD from vicinity of the airport is “Look, we can smuggle bomb into your plane just under your eyes!”
of course i have no proof, but i rather think that evildoers have some EM or similar weapon on low Earth orbit. i recall french, i think, passenger jet dissapeared in South pacific suddenly few years ago. MH17 last year, series of chinese explosions, now russian jet. it is conspiracy theory for now because there is no proof. but there is no proof for bomb either. or collision with US drone. there would be parts of drone around.
or this:
http://www.sott.net/article/142482-Italian-govt-suspects-bizarre-fires-in-Sicily-caused-by-large-amount-of-EM-energy-from-top-secret-weapon-of-unknown-power
intriguing story.
After reading the report I have pasted below which was carried in RT News today I am more convinced than ever of British intelligence involvement in the bringing down of the Russian Airbus flight :
“The Sunday Express reported that the UK’s intelligence agency, GCHQ, had intercepted chatter from jihadists in Sinai, who included English speakers with Birmingham and London accents, prior to the crash.
“There has also been some internet traffic suggesting that there was British involvement in the attack. This was a very sophisticated, carefully planned operation involving many moving parts,” an official told the newspaper.
“We know there are British jihadis in Egypt fighting with members of Islamic State. They were trained in Syria and are now hardened terrorists. Some of the Britons have an electronics background and have been developing some very sophisticated bombs.”
They are covering themselves by hiding right in the open so to speak. They planted the damn bomb the Godless swine.
And now they’re running scared because they know that the bear knows.
International arrest warrants ? Is that feasible ?
The British using terrorists with British accents, knowing full well the Egyptian and Russian intelligence services would pick up on this as part of their own investigations? Is this likely? At various times: Qatar gets the blame? Israel gets the blame? Isis? Saudi Arabia? France? All are getting listed as the instigators. Reminds me of 9/11 & the Kennedy assassination. The truth gets buried in a fog of “evidence” accusations and conspiracy theories, until all the true facts are just another “conspiracy theory.” Maybe we also need to look at who isn’t getting he blame … or are they just getting set up for the main blame? I’m confused.
The only thing I do know, if this was a deliberate take-down of a passenger jet, is that all (or some) of the above are responsible. They all have blood on their hands anyway, whether for this attack or for others. So, Yes! Damn them all to hell!
I don’t really see the need for any effort by either Western or Russian advocates to spin this as an adversary controversy. What I see happening here is that governments from all over the world gradually received information from their intelligence services and from the results of the crash investigation, and, after five or six days of details emerging, everyone agrees on what happened (likely a bomb placed at Sharm el-Sheikh by ISIS sympathizers) and the appropriate course of action (avoid flying out of Sharm el-Sheikh or over the Sinai). Looks to me like the emerging multipolar world is starting to work!
I hope RF will not make the same mistake US did: terrorists will want the economical and political demise of Russia. Please, President Putin keep a cool head while hitting more and more targets. Any fighting against terrorism has to be done on a variety of fronts, not only the military one.
True,on many fronts.There is no reason for Guantanamo style prisons.Or Polish torture rendition prisons.A double tap is all that’s needed.Find the financiers,arms suppliers,trainers,and send them straight to the paradise they yearn for.The Westerners and Israelis among them of course are out of luck when it comes to the Virgins in Paradise idea.But that is the breaks I guess,they’ll have to make do with a six foot hole instead.
Yes…..Qatar……( or might we say Exxon Mobil?)…..and its ties with Hollande:
“Middle East: The predictable defeat of France”:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article187828.html
“Francois Hollande talked with the Emir of Qatar”:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article174021.html
This Carter scumbag is not only *insane*, but a danger to life on earth: Defense Secretary Suggests Putin Might Nuke America, Says US Will “Defend International Order” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-08/defense-secretary-suggests-putin-might-nuke-america-says-us-will-defend-internationa
I’m having trouble expressing the thought, but it goes something like: Isn’t the whole point of nuclear weapons that the elite and powerful of the world make peace with each other and oppress the weak and the poor.
I’m having trouble expressing the thought, but it goes something like:
It definitely appears certain that Syria will be the match that ignites the nuclear fuse. Things are now spinning out of control, extremely fast. Savour every moment of life now, because the end is nigh. For anyone who still might imagine that sanity will prevail to save us, let Ash Carter put those delusions firmly and finally to rest:
https://www.rt.com/usa/321194-carter-russia-threat-world-order/
I’m curious if anyone has any insight into that mysterious night light over southern CA the other day. An interesting comment at zerohedge about it:
I’m reminded of that supposed Chinese missile off the LA coast back on November 8, 2010…
Whatever it is, there’s lots of curious things going on right now in these interesting times… and none of them bode very well…
Surreal. Unprecedented diversion of all flights at LAX for a week. Gov said Jade Helm was no biggie too, even while it screamed unprecedented creepy. Bad omens for sure. From where I sit, it looks like the psychosphere that comprises core deep state is going full cheyenne. Collapse and nuclear war appearing increasingly imminent.
“Surreal. Unprecedented diversion of all flights at LAX for a week”
They don’t want low flying aircraft around while they “test stuff” off the cal coast. Sounds like anti-aircraft or missile tests are being done to me.
> From where I sit, it looks like the psychosphere that comprises core deep state is going full cheyenne.
My thinking too (though expressed with a uniquely colorful eloquence!).
> Collapse and nuclear war appearing increasingly imminent.
Agreed.
Why would it transit the entire horizon? It was fired almost directly away from California. It wouldn’t appear to move much at all. Also the light from the sun reflecting off the propellant of a ballistic missile looks exactly like that. I’ve seen many of them. Zero is full of tinfoil hat nutters if they believe that for a second.
RE: “tinfoil hat”
After researching this product, the only place I found where one can purchase one is from a booth at a local conservative friends of Israel meeting. One can find a similar propaganda item at labor friends of Israel meets, but since the UK labor party isn’t still stuck in the 19th century, they call the things aluminum foil hats…
Zero is indeed full of tinfoil hatters, conspiracy theorists, climate deniers and out and out anti-semites. Occasionally is has useful info, but definitely not worth reading for the comments.
conspiracy theorists
If you’re partial to sneers of that sort, why are you here?
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I suppose this website is not for calling out some crazy notions by armchair quarterbacks. Indeed, why are you here?
Hmmm, South Front are correct to suspect that the British knew far more about this than they were letting on.
Also, on Friday, the following article appeared in the Guardian (Commnet was not Free on this article):
UAE told UK: crack down on Muslim Brotherhood or lose arms deals
MB and HMG government have a very, very long history.
Russia must stay on the high moral ground. Stay with(in) the law..international law for that matter in order to win. Use it cleverly ..whatever it means to her advantage.Treat these perpatrators as criminals. Arrests, search warrants, extraditions,UN..etc. must apply. Terrorists and their sponsors are criminals and must be treated as such. Using terror as a tool of revenge will make one become like them..terrorists.STay with the rule of law. You’ll win.
off topic, has anyone seen this article?
http://blogfactory.co.uk/archives/16981
Is this another USS liberty type of false flag? and again to frame Egypt? Egypt seem to lean towards Russia, am sure the zios be it US, Israel, Saudis or Qatari are not satisfied with Egypt. Egypt aldread has economical problems. Now tourism in egypt will be burried for one, and for two they are hoping to distance Russia from Egypt.
“A new war began on October 31”
Now that is silly.
Tragic and cowardly as it is, the probable ‘taking down’ of the A321 by CIA/Mossad/NATO is just a sad side show with no tactical or strategical benefits for the perpetrator.
On the contrary: It shows to the world how depraved and desperate they are. What a clown show!
SAA seems very interested in clearing out cells deeper into government held areas. Not making much headway to new territory. There are not many terrorists in these areas so it is easy to sweep.. But why bother? takes a lot of effort to clean up vermin in the patches.. This new Russian offensive must have some purpose.. To gain experience for the Syrian troops??? Seems a dozen rats hold up thousands of SAA troops for days on end..
Syrian battle front maps..
https://twitter.com/Amin_Akh
Some pictures of Scandinavians.. What the heck are these people doing in the desert? Assad did say the greatest threat were from Scandinavians but here you can see their pictures in the other link.
https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/662202159753220096
NEW MAP: #SAA / #Hezbollah
Syriac Patriarch and his clergymen arrive in the Syriac Orthodox town of Sadad to show their solidarity and support:
Graphic +18: Meet the “moderate” Ahrar showing the head of an #SAA officer in a basket #Syria.
whats left of 40 Martyrs Armenian Orthodox church in Jdaydeh, Aleppo. Blown up by “moderate” rebels last year #Syria
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem
Point finger at Obama and Cameron.
If Russia needs to respond then she must do this covertly or WWIII may be the result if the west or its vassals are openly challenged. Either Qatar or Israel may have brought this plane down and Qatar would not do this without Washington’s okay, but Israel might on its own accord.
addendum: Ashton Carter threatened that Russia would begin to take casulties if she entered into the Syrian conflict in a pro active manner. This is that threat made good either intentionally with blessings or at the hand of another, forcing the situation by making good on the threat but without the blessing.