I get remarkable little hate mail these days. When I began this blog, I got quite a few emails accusing me of being an anti-Semite, but that tide gradually petered out. It was replaced by letters from various Jew-hating types who had hoped that I also hated Jews, only to realize that I did not. That got them angry at me too. And then, I had the Right-wingers who hoped that I was one of their own, only to realize that I hated reactionary politics and a few Marxists who had felt that I was on their side, only to realize that while I very much shared Marx’s critique of capitalism, I was deeply hostile to the solutions offered. What else? I got a few really offended Baathists, one well-meaning but naive Wahabi, two really offended Latin Christians, and a couple of Palestinians who were deeply outraged at a post of mine entitled Why Hamas should release Gilad Shalit. I think that this list pretty much covers it. But today I got one comment which really pissed me of and I decided to dedicate a full post to reply to the sorry individual who posted it. This is the comment which I feel deserves a full answer:
Seems to be a huge pro-Russian bias here, why, exactly?
My family has lost several members directly to Russian police-state enforcement tactics, the usual, arrest in the middle of the night, then prison or a bullet in the back of the head.
If you are wondering why so many think that the only good Russian is a dead Russian, that would be the reason. I am sure you will never publish this comment, which only proves you are just another pro-Russian propaganda organ.
OK, now let me know reply to this guy point by point:
Seems to be a huge pro-Russian bias here, why, exactly?
It impossible to prove a negative and I cannot prove the absence of a bias in me. Besides, we all have our more or less subconscious biases. Add to this that I was born in a family of Russian refugees and that I feel culturally fully Russian, and you have a slam-dunk “evidence” of my bias. Except that the implication here is not only that I have a bias, but that this bias makes me lose my sense of truth, fairness, justice, honor and the fraternity of all men, all that which is so much higher than parochial nationalism or patriotism. The implication here is that I would side with Russia no matter what, even with a murderous, genocidal and imperialistic Russia. And that I categorically deny, and to make my case, I will use the next sentence:
My family has lost several members directly to Russian police-state enforcement tactics, the usual, arrest in the middle of the night, then prison or a bullet in the back of the head.
So? My family also lost several of its members to the Boshevik regime. One of my relatives was boiled alive (literally) by revolutionaries. Another spent 20 years in the Gulag (in Magadan) for something he never did. Later, the Soviets send their NKVD agents abroad to spy on my family. My great-father fought against the Communists during WWII in Russisches Schutzkorps of the German Wehrmacht (something I do not approve of, but which I understand), and I myself spent almost 10 years of my life fighting the Soviet regime and, especially the KGB in various types of anti-Soviet activities (sending books of Solzhenisyn or Solonevich into the Soviet Union thought merchant ships, disseminating information to counter the Soviet propaganda, sending money to the families of political prisoners, etc.). I think I did a pretty good job since was listed internationally by the Soviet representations abroad (with photo and all!) as a “dangerous activist” and I even got a bona fide (but illegal) death threat from a frustrated KGB agent. I also worked with Polish exiles who were assisting Solidarnosc from aboard and I had frequent contacts with a covert representative of Ahmad Shah Massoud in Europe whom I helped making important contacts. Last, but not least, I used to be a military analyst for the General Staff of the country in Europe were I was born, with a rank of Specialist (Major) for operational training and strategic analysis. Can you guess against what military I was training our forces to fight? So, believe me, I had many years to think ‘Russia, wrong or right my country”, but I never did that.
And let me ask you now: what did YOU do to fight the Soviets and their secret police?
After 1991, was first hopeful but soon I was horrified and disgusted by what I saw in the regime of Eltsin and his Jewish oligarchs. I was in Moscow in 1993 when these US-supported thugs crushed the opposition with tanks, snipers and Betar commandos. At that point I just turned away in utter disgust. And when finally Putin came to power I though “oh God, the KGB is back in command”. But then, to my absolute amazement, I saw something completely different gradually happening. First, in small steps, but then in bigger and bigger strides: for the first time in my life I saw Russia doing something right, standing up for things like freedom, international law, respect for human and civil right. And one day I caught myself on the really amazing thought that I actually agreed with almost every single policy of the Kremlin (with a few exceptions like joining the WTO, betraying Iran twice, letting NATO attack Libya and a few others). So here is the key thing you seem to miss: I began supporting Russia only when Russia began standing for everything that is right, decent, honorable and truthful. I assure you that for a longtime anti-Soviet activist like myself, it is very, very counter-intuitive to say anything good about the Kremlin and yet I am now honestly compelled to say not only that I fully support Putin, but that I consider him to be one of the greatest statesmen in Russian history. If in 2000 another Eltsin like US puppet had been elected Russia would have simply vanished from the world map as a country. Instead, Putin literally resurrected it in something like 10 years! Yes, there are still plenty of bad problems in Russia and a lot still needs to be changed, but just look back and consider the kind of Russia Putin inherited in 1999. So this is why, after some hesitation and soul-searching, and after seeing Mark Sleboda on Crossfire yesterday, I decided to place a Saint George ribbon on the top left of my blog: because today Russia does stand for freedom!
If you are wondering why so many think that the only good Russian is a dead Russian, that would be the reason.
Wrong. The reason why not “so many” but the *western plutocrats* want Russians dead is because Russia never submitted to their rule. Because in polar opposition to the western propaganda and cultural racism, Russians are by far the most freedom loving people in Europe who rejected every single wannabe planetary overlord that Europe produced: the Popes, Napoleon, Hitler and even Lenin/Trotsky. And now Russia is refusing to bow down to Emperor Obama. That is the real reason why people like you hate and fear Russia. The so-called progressive and enlightened West not only produced all the tyrants, it also very eagerly submitted to them: Hitler was elected democratically I remind you, and with the exception of a few brave souls, very few opposed him (the Serbs, the Dutch and a few others). The Russian civil war which followed the Bolshevik insurrection really lasted from 1918 to 1946 (even Stalin understood that the ROA was a continuation of the civil war)! And even after that there were regular insurrections (Novocherkassk, 1962), even in the Gulag (Ekibastuz 1952, Kengir 1954)! How does that compare with the so-called “freedom loving West” which systematically bows down before each dictator/emperor (like Obama today)? The reason why so many want Russians dead is because they believe that Russia is what stands between them and world power. And they are absolutely right about that.
I am sure you will never publish this comment, which only proves you are just another pro-Russian propaganda organ.
That just goes to prove how stupid and narrow-minded you are: you project unto others your own ugliness. FYI – I never censored a single post on this blog, never, I believe in 100% freedom of speech and 100% freedom of thought. And I loathe censorship with a special intensity, if only because I myself have been censored many times.
So is this blog just another pro-Russian propaganda organ? You can think whatever the hell you want, but in my mind I am simply following the principle of Malcolm X who said “I am for truth, no matter who tells it” and that, today, means that, yes, I am for Russia. But only because Russia today itself is for truth!
The Saker
PS: I forgot to mention one more accusation: some folks accused me of being a “fake Orthodox” and a Muslim which, I suppose, in their sick minds is something like the ultimate insult. At the time I simply ignored that bonehead.
Very well said and thanks.
perhaps the ” russofobics bigot” is a nephew of the Trotskyists who survived to stalin. In fact, only just a Trotskyist may hate ALL the Russians because of the Stalin’s purges ..
Hitler was elected democratically I remind you, and with the exception of a few brave souls, very few opposed him (the Serbs, the Dutch and a few others)
Not to nitpick…but I seem to recall something about Britain and France going to war over the issue of Polish security.
Oh yeah, and Russia being ALLIED with Nazi Germany in the dismemberment of Poland…
@Lexington: I seem to recall something about Britain and France going to war over the issue of Polish security.
You really believe that they went to war over “Polish security”? Or was it over the fact that Hitler threatened them?
Russia being ALLIED with Nazi Germany in the dismemberment of Poland…
Not true. This was not an alliance but a non-aggression treaty. More importantly Stalin needed the time to build up the Soviet military.
But you are missing my point: you refer to what WWII *government* did or did not do. I was talking about the *people*!
Cheers,
The Saker
If you stand for truth, can you explain why, today, Vladimir Putin stated that the soldiers who have appeared widespread on the Crimean peninsula are not Russian Military?
This is at odds with the following facts:
-their vehicles have Russian registration plates
-Their vehicles are recognised as vehicles, some exclusively, in use by Russian military
-their uniform/camo is widely recognised as Russian military
-their weaponry is recognised as standard for various Russian infantry types (and far too expensive/rare for separatists or “local self-defence forces”-VP quote)
-their language is russian, and many of them have confirmed to multiple journalists and observers from across the world that they are indeed Russian Military.
Thank you for your time, I enjoy reading your views.
@Anonymous: why, today, Vladimir Putin stated that the soldiers who have appeared widespread on the Crimean peninsula are not Russian Military?
Very good point! Putin and his diplomats are being cute here, to say it nicely. They say that 1) Russians have the right to be in the Crimea and that they even pay top Ruble for that right, 2) That this right also include the right to transit 3) that the local authorities requested that movement and 4) that the only legitimate President of the Ukraine also requested it.
Neat – but still not honest at all :-)
The fact is that these forces are beyond any doubt not only Russian, but from Russia proper, and that these are not the forces which were supposed to be stationed in the Crimea. I have tried to identify these forces and I am fairly sure that these are units of the 3rd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade which is stationed in the city of Toliatti, in the Samara region, that roughly 1000 miles away from the Ukraine. This unit had covertly left a few days before and was ready to intervene from a hidden staging area. Nobody saw them move because they did so under the cover of the military exercises taking place in western Russia. This is why they could move in literally overnight.
So is Putin lying? Hell yes! Absolutely.
However,
I never said that Putin or any other Russian politician never lies. I said that Russia stands for truth. First, Putin’s lies are a tactic, but his goal is not a lie – he is very honest about it. Second, a covert action (this is what we are dealing with here) is a key tool of statecraft – everybody who can does it – and covert operations are all denied. I would also add that everybody knows that these are Russians, and the Russians know that everybody knows. This is just a legal/political figleaf destined to hide a very well known fact.
Please get me right – I always tell me friends that “Putin is not the kind of man I would want to give my daughter in marriage to, but he is exactly the man that Russia needs in the Kremlin today”.
Does that make sense?
But is he personally above lying? Oh hell no – he will lie as much as he deems needed for this purpose. So if Russia stands for truth – and I firmly believe that – this does not mean that Russian rulers always say the truth.
Do you really see a contradiction here?
Cheers,
The Saker
any thoughts on the russian ship that just docked at cuba?
@Anonymous: any thoughts on the russian ship that just docked at cuba?
A non-event. I was at a carwash when I saw a totally hysterical FOX TV report which gave the feeling that this ship was about to invade the continental USA. The reporters looked freaked out and the entire discussing was “how will we respond to this latest provocation?”. Which is garbage, this is just a courtesy visit to Havana from a Russian Navy spyship which poses no threat to anybody. Of course it spies on the USA, but so do the Russian satellites in the sky or the Russian attack subs off the Florida coast.
BTW – USN spyships are also all over the planet and nobody has hysterical fits over that…
Cheers,
The Saker
Very well said Mr. Saker and well done! I am a little surprised, that you wrote such a wide answer to this “person”. I had some experience with all kinds of provocateurs, who write just to provoke and would not bother anymore.
Thanks for the energy :-)
I discovered this URL just yesterday from another “politically incorrect webzine”. That guy tries to fight the “windmills” the same way also. Thumbs up!
@Anonymous:I am a little surprised, that you wrote such a wide answer to this “person”.
Well, LOL, you are right I suppose. But then I just felt the urge to vent (he did piss me off), and I figured that for one guy posting such crap, there are 100 who think it but don’t post. Finally, since do have a very pro-Russian position right now, I want all my readers to know *EXACTLY* where I come from so full disclosure about my personal background is just something I owe my readers.
Kind regards and many thanks,
The Saker
What leverage does the west have to isolate Russia economically and politically? (Putin may not give a shit, but it may hurt, no?)
Do you regard this an as intelligence failure by Russia in not getting wind of this early on way before EU dangled the ‘carrot’ and the 5 billion anti-Russian campaign?
Your analysis of contemporary events is truly very good. I like how you shared here your conversion story out of Kremlin-means-totalitarian-police-state to Putin-actually-has-principles. I went through the same conversion.
Since then I have had to incessantly debunk and contradict a hoard of Neocon American “Catholics” who insist everything Putin says is a lie. I’ve watched in amazement as the online North American Catholic community has come and grown to be one of the biggest supporters of Putin’s policies exactly because they sound like they are lifted word for word from the Catechism. Some Catholics actually believe that Putin is a fulfillment of a promise made by an apparition of Our Lady at Fatima in regards to Russia.
Of course, the paid Neocons have done everything in their power to demonize Putin, Palestinians and Muslims or Islam generally to Catholics. What is surprising is how spectacularly they are failing, in large part thanks to the major and significant documents and texts of the Second Vatican Council, which the Neoconners are forced to contradict or desperately try to poo-poo it.
When you have rabbidly patriotic and anti-Communist conservative American Catholics defending Russia and Kremlin policy you know you have a big paradigm shift on your hands.
It’s pretty comical when you have to read a Neoconner make a desperate case that the Kremlin and Putin himself are deliberately but disingenuously copying the language of the Roman Catholic Catechism in order to curb people’s enthusiasm for Putin’s policies. Funny also when people claiming to be Ukrainian Catholics are effectively booed off stage on forums and media when they try to sell the new regime in Kiev and claim anyone opposed to it is under the spell of Russian lies, etc.
The times they are a changing.
Two questions…
1. I am with you on the world power push from the west, but there is documentary evidence that the west financed the Bolshevik revolution (supposedly because the Czar was a threat to the Rockefeller monopoly on oil) and of course Russia and the US cooperated to establish the UN to further the goal of world government. I have been having a hard time trying to figure out how Putin fits in with this. You seem to be saying that Putin represents a total break from the dialectical aspect of US-Russia relations (thesis-anti-thesis-synthesis) that characterized the 20th century and brought us the worldwide communo-fascist paradigm of today, but my cynical side says Putin may still be playing within the confines of that globalist game. Do you think it’s realistic to hope that if Putin/Russia win dominance in the 21st c the Anglo-American Establishment/banking cabal really will be on the run?
2. Are there anti-Putin / anti-interventionist protests in Russia right now (a la pussy riot)? I’m just thinking this would be a good time for anti-Putin types in Russia to come out in force and get some airtime yet no media is reporting that.
“Last, but not least, I used to be a military analyst for the General Staff of the country in Europe were I was born, with a rank of Specialist (Major) for operational training and strategic analysis.”
Is there any particular reason why you refrain from disclosing which country that was?
Dear Saker,
Brilliant and intelligent ansver as always. I do admire your calmnes , definitely you had a very good training.Unfortunately not so many people around the globe knows that these type of provocatures are legaly paid for their job to spread the misinformation around the world. Let them be, I feel sorry for them and nothing else.
@William Dunkirk: I like how you shared here your conversion story out of Kremlin-means-totalitarian-police-state to Putin-actually-has-principles
Well, I can tell you that it was *extremely* counter-intuitive for me, to say the least. But for me reality should always trump ideology and I refused to deny the reality of what I was seeing. I can assure you that it got a lot of my family members and friends really pissed at me, especially those living in the USA. There must be some kind of anti-Putin virus in the air around here, as they all rabidly hate Putin but they cannot explain why. My mother-in-law actually told me literally “I just hate him, that’s it”. Hard to argue with that, no? So I don’t.
It is also bizarre for me to remember how the western elites were far less anti-Brezhnev or anti-Gorbi, not to mention anti-Eltsin, than they are anti-Putin today. The kind of anti-Putin propaganda I see in the West today make Joseph Goebbels and Julius Streicher look like very objective and honest reporters. And, just like with my friends and relatives, I have never seen a fact-based critique of Putin, only rather crude lies and complete fabrications.
But for me it is unacceptable to put ideology over reality. Even if this is not always easy :-)
Cheers,
The Saker
@Nestorian:Is there any particular reason why you refrain from disclosing which country that was?
Yes :-p
@ to Anonymous 04 March 2014 /11.47
Tthere is a book circulating around the net about the Putin when he was elected and he opened the most secret archives of Russia and he discovered that both of the regimes West and East were runned by the same thugs .
Today the former CIA and KGB agents are fishing, camping, traveling togeteher and beating their heads how they were mislead by their peers.
All of the governments around the world were infiltrated by the secret power who never was voted for by the legitimate voters.
Regarding to the Russian soldiers to Krym. Because after separation of Ukraine from Russia, Ukraine wasn’t able / at the same time wasn’t interested to improve their national defence system because looting of the Ukraine was more important for the west/Ukraine soldiers are still using uniforms, armed vehicles and all of the equipments under the Russian signs / it would be the same for example when state of Oregon sudenly will fight the state of Washington they will have no diferent uniforms becasue they don’t have them from one day to another and they will speak the same language/and exactly the same situation is happening right now in Ukraine. Most of the soldiers are from Ukraine and the rest is from Russia because the president Yanukovich / even he is very corrupted and the west was supporting him /has asked Mr.Putin to help him to provide and prevent any more bloodshed to hurt innocent civilians.
Russia will never going to kill citizens of Ukraine they are brothers, families are intermarried and they went together through the history with the very painful and drastic memories. West is now looking like a parrot and nothing else. Putin is not a saint as another politicians around the world, but he definitely stays for the freedom much more than the pretencoius West.Look at this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=an3A3hRA8_M.
You don’t want to know how the former East Europe hated Russian’s after invasion of Hungary /1956/ Czechoslovakia /1968 / even the soldiers were some innocent people they just got the order to go and make an invasion and the gangters they were just laughing behind the curtain. You have NO IDEA how many families were murdered and put into a jail during these occupations and Putin has discovered this only after opening the archives. Today the all Europe knows that the very well celebrated VELVET REVOLUTION orchestrated by Vaclav Havel and the gang was nothing else just a huge fraud with the wery well orchestrated looting of the former Eastern countries of Europe. This plan is NOT the conspiracy theory of these days, but unfortunately very harsh reality and I can guaranty you, that 85% of the European nations these days are supporting Putin at this time because they have discovered what is the truth and nothing else. Game is over!
At Lexington
The International Shylocks and their client states (Great Britain & France) forced Germany into war over the issue of Danzig and oppression of ethnic Germans in Western Poland. They had cared no hoot about Polish security otherwise they would have also declared war upon the (Godless) USSR. Hitler DID NOT threaten Great Britain nor France directly, however his JUST economic policies freed his people from the International Shylocks and set an example for the rest of Mankind. They could NOT tolerate this as this would mean the end of their messianic quest to rule the world from Jerusalem. Now Orthodox Russia (not the Godless USSR) is standing in their way. And their client states, NATO, is trying to force war upon Orthodox Russia.
By the way I am a Muslim from Pakistan.
“I never said that Putin or any other Russian politician never lies. I said that Russia stands for truth. First, Putin’s lies are a tactic, but his goal is not a lie – he is very honest about it.”
With all due respect, how can a person be both a liar and “stand for the truth”? The two are patently in contradiction to one another. A person who truly stands for truth NEVER lies.
If a corollary of this is that such an one never embroils himself in the filth of politics, where lying is mandatory, then so be it.
That is the corollary that I have drawn for myself, personally, and I also believe it is a corollary that both Christ Himself (whom we both worship) and the ante-Nicene, anti-Roman Church would have drawn.
The truth has come out of Russia in the past, in the form of the ancient indo-european concept of arta.
Putin embodies the name of Artaxerxes, or “he who rules through arta”.
Two questions: (1) re. the anti-Communist Polish Solidarity Trade Union: to what extent do you attribute the success of Solidarity to the papist social philosophy which seemed to animate it? (2) You mention “international law” in this piece, but is there really such a thing as “international law”? There is certainly international custom (largely dead, i.e., no more formal declarations of war, targeting civilians, etc.) and international contract (i.e., treaties, agreements etc., enforceable in equity), but is there really such a thing as “international law”?
What a relief to see this. I have been paying very close attention to Putin for about ten years… since reading about the chaos and hardship in Russia in the 90s in… I think… The Atlantic.
I was shocked. I was heartbroken. I was ashamed to have been so clueless. From that in-depth article I thought Russia would be suffering for decades, lifetimes, and NOTHING in the Western Media had led me to believe anything nearly so bad was going on there. I knew our media was crap, but had no idea before then just HOW crap.
Gradually I began to see that Putin was turning it all around. At first I was upset and suspicious of him for not locking up every filthy oligarch who had harmed his fellows so egregiously, chasing them all down and… and… ruining their lives — they deserved it — but I soon realized Putin’s restraint had been THE perfect way to handle it.
He saved the Russian people untold grief by only making sure the oligarchs were prevented from political influence. Their fascist friends would have come down even harder on Russia if he had done what I wanted him to do, and all would have been lost before it even began. I still feel humbled by it, by realizing the courage and wisdom and heart and true human adulthood it took to choose that course.
I have glued myself to each bit of news about him for all this time and he has not put a foot wrong. I agree there have been some things that were very hard to swallow, but each time I realized that the choices were designed to avert WWIII, that he has kept the safety of the Russian people, and also the rest of us, uppermost in his mind and done or not done always what gives the best chances to steadily weaken the psychopaths and enhance the chances of ultimately prevailing… of having a world left for good people to live in.
If there were more leaders willing publicly to ally with him it might go faster, but that also might bring it down around our ears… so he has done already way more than can have been expected by any of us in these horrible times.
I guess I disagree with you only when you say he is one of the greatest in Russian history. I’d say he is THE greatest… maybe in human history.
He seems to me to be what JFK was going to be… but learned from what happened to him.
I am just wondering why nothing I have posted on this blog has so far shown up on a comments thread. Does one have to me a member of this blog to comment?
Also, the robot tests are very difficult. I am not a robot, I am a writer and editor, but aparently I cannot pass the test, though the software stops giving me new tests, so I assume that I have got it right. But still, my comments disappear into cyberspace and never come back.
I find it hard to call myself an American these days in light of the indignant blatherings of Kerry and the media pundits. With all this talk about “American exceptionalism” lately, I have decided that the only thing truly “exceptional” about America is its hubris, hypocrisy, and the utter stupidity of Joe and Mary Sixpack ignorantly chanting “USA! USA! USA!
During the Olympics, I dared to say “Putin is my hero” to someone and her mouth just dropped. Oh, the horror! {grinning}
I know, I know, Dear American Commissar: my attitude is noticed. Oh yes, it is noticed.
I find it hard to call myself an American these days in light of the indignant blatherings of Kerry and the media pundits. With all this talk about “American exceptionalism” lately, I have decided that the only thing truly “exceptional” about America is its hubris, hypocrisy, and the utter stupidity of Joe and Mary Sixpack ignorantly chanting “USA! USA! USA!
During the Olympics, I dared to say “Putin is my hero” to someone and her mouth just dropped. Oh, the horror! {grinning}
I know, I know, Dear American Commissar: my attitude is noticed. Oh yes, it is noticed.
russia tests ICBM missile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26442381
@Nestorian:With all due respect, how can a person be both a liar and “stand for the truth”? The two are patently in contradiction to one another. A person who truly stands for truth NEVER lies.
Ok. Let me repeat: Russia nowadays, objectively stands for truth, decency and freedom. That does not, repeat, *NOT* make Putin a saint, or even a person who never lies. Have you ever heard of a politician who never lies? If yes, who is it? If no, then you are denying the very premise of point, i.e. that it is relevant that Putin can speak a lie. Just try to think logically for Pete’s sake! Then Russia != Putin. One is a country the other is a person. Furthermore, one can go in a direction, but with slight deviations from the course. Is any of the above new to you?! And what are you trying to prove? That Putin is not saint? Or a person who never lies? Is that not kind of obvious for any adult?
Please stop posting kindergarten-level comments and try to think logically…
@OldEz:to what extent do you attribute the success of Solidarity to the papist social philosophy which seemed to animate it?
Solidarity was an interesting mix of Latin Christian ideas, mixed in with socialist values and pro-Western ideas. There were very different movement and key figures inside Solidarity like say Adam Michnik, Bronislaw Geremek or Lech Walesa who all had rather different ideas. Remember how Pope John-Paul II and CIA chief General Vernon Walters secretly planned the so-called “Holy Alliance” (http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_holy_alliance.php)? That is very typical of the kind of diverse forces which were backing Solidarity both outside and inside. At the time I was dumb and naive, and believed in the purity of it all. Now I know better :-)
You mention “international law” in this piece, but is there really such a thing as “international law”
Oh yes, absolutely. It is embodied in a bunch of treaties, agreements, instruments, etc. But yes, of course there is, even if it is ignored.
Cheers!
The Saker
Saker,
I am not naïve. I know that all politicians lie. For this reason, I admire none of them.
As I indicated in my previous post, I think The Christ whom we both worship condemns them for it most severely also – including Putin.
If Putin lies, then he is not a man whom I can admire. Nor, I submit, should he be a man whom you admire, if you truly love Christ.
If you yourself love the truth, then you should not praise Putin for his lies, but condemn him.
Nestorian, the Christ I worship forgives. He asks a lot of us but understands our frailties. More bluntly, He was the only perfect person ever and even more bluntly, He didn’t last too long on this imperfect earth.
Liked the term “Latin Christian”. That’s clear to me.
Michael
Oh, Nestorian, don’t be so childlish insisting on comparing normal human beings to ideal of Christ! Especially politicians!
Among the world ruling psychopaths, Putin seems to be the most human, which doesn’t mean he’s totally faultless. All wars are fought by deception, read Sun Tzu. While western politicians are shamelessly hypocritical liars, Putin has a lot of decency in comparison. But Christ he is not, of course!
Anyway, I’ve learned to like him much more than ANY of our politicians in North America.
Keep up the good work. Do not let these people get you down. The USA media is in full tilt lying. Not a word about the $5 billion Nuland and the State Dept used to create this coup. Sickening.
Saker:
I come from an old American military family. My ancestors have fought in every major American war since the Civil War of 1861-65. My father was a senior officer in the USN. He was a conservative and a patriot, but he was also fair minded and had a high opinion of Russia, the Russian people and the Soviet military. Over time, I have become increasingly disgusted with the filthy vermin who have taken over the American political system, legal system, mass media, schools and economy, but like you, I have come to admire Putin and everything he has done for Russia. My sympathies are with Russia, and not with the morally bankrupt degenerates and cowardly bullies who (mis)rule America and who were behind the false front “color revolutions” in Ukraine and elsewhere. Someone needed to stand up to Obama and the rest of these idiots and Putin has stepped up to the plate. If only we could have a leader of his caliber in America…
I must confess that when I start checking the Balabanschina, I usually fall for a little vanity, looking for possible answers to my own comments in previous posts. So I stumbled first on the little piece of trotsko-hasbara BS to which I adressed the following:
@gaw,
If there is a pro-Russian “bias” it is because this site is not an anti-Russian one.
WizOz
04 March, 2014 18:35
Then I noticed the ample answer of the Saker.
@Nestorian:”With all due respect, how can a person be both a liar and “stand for the truth”? The two are patently in contradiction to one another. A person who truly stands for truth NEVER lies.”
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Some people are unrealistic idealists. It is not possible to live in society without ever telling a lie: such a society would dissolve into extreme violence, duels and murders.
Think of all the little lies we tell every day out of politeness to make human relations smoother. The important thing is not to tell lies that harm people.
For a politician, it is even harder as some truths would cause great harm to his country when it is threatened by criminal regimes like the US and its puppets.
@Putin lies,
He applies a very usual tactic in the political game: plausible deniability. And I guess in the proper war game: Maskirovka. NATO had not a clue about the movements of the Spetsnaz (as it did not have in 2008 in Georgia). Make no mistake, the whole circus in Ukraine was a declaration of war.
WizOz
If you want truth in Russia, then maybe you and your friends should complete the transaction of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s book “200 Years Together (with the Jews).”
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/200_Years_Together
There is a PDF copy of volume two (in Russian) at
http://solargeneral.com/library/200-years-together-alexander-solzhenitsyn.pdf
Only chapter 15: “Among Bolsheviks,” from volume two has not been translated. So starting there would be sensible.
How do you feel Russia betray Iran twice? S-300 and? Most Iranians don’t trust Russia anymore.
I’m Iranian and I enjoy your blog.
Dear Brother Saker,
Thank you for giving us a little background of yourself, your sense of justice and honesty shine through in your writing.
I knew I was not wrong in how I felt about the modern Russia, and your details and intelligence have given so much depth and background to support what I knew was true:
Russia maybe can someday become a true moral superpower.
It is as though I have found a kindred spirit. Bless you for what you are doing here, my friend.
Mike L.
Saker
Hopefully, that anti-Russian tool is the worst you get spammed with from now on.
Thanks for writing about the background where you come from. It provides a deeper understanding of your writing and POV here.
Half of my family also hails from Russia, from the Ukraine to be more exact (great-grandfolks). From what you describe about yourself, arriving a couple of generations earlier, though, than yours, as they left a little before WW1. The reason they left was religious persecution from the czarist regime. They were Baptists and did not want to convert to Orthodox. In Russia they were fairly well off, but in the USA were rapidly reduced to extreme poverty after the old man passed away, and by the end of the 20’s were working as farm workers for $1 a day or less. My grandmother had a wealth of stories about those days and it was always a wonder visiting with her. The other half of the family hails from the UK, about a generation later, they also had their share of ups and downs and great stories, but in comparison to the Russian side, their stories are rather mundane and a lot less “colourful”. :)
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Saker, this is almost exactly my trajectory. Thank you for putting it into a post. I suspect you speak for many more.- J
The media had been forced to call the ‘Russian forces’…. Pro-Russian ‘ as they seem to be self defence forces . Some Russian soldiers were met at the border near Kerch by locals , but these are not the men were being told have ‘invaded’ the country
@Vot tak,
Just a little remark to avoid cognitive dissonance, Orthodoxy precedes Baptism. Therefore Baptism were converts from Orthodoxy
WizOz
Nestorian says he can’t admire liars : he must have trouble looking in the mirror .
So far president Putin has shorn himself to he a restrained statesman: remember how gun go were the Americans to go into Afghanistan and Iraq .., based entirely on lies . They managed to wage wars that have killed 2 to 3 million people . So far the Russians haven’t fired a shot :buy done shrewd statesmanship has helped back up the courage of the east and southern Ukrainians to resist and set their lands on new courses: which Washington may not have anticipated
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From a brazilian’s follower.
It seems to me that positive attitudes towards Russia around the planet have been growing for several reasons. Putin’s leadership style, cerebral, firm, judicious, canny, articulate, and his practical and statecraft accomplishments, are part of it. The rapid renovation of a Russia in shambles happened largely under his watch.
In comparison, the very legitimacy let alone the competence of many western governments is now questioned by many of their citizens. Illegitimacy is earned by a system of control reliant upon fear and falsehoods, and by repudiation of fundamental constitutional and common-sense, common law principles. Contempt is earned by dishonesty allied with incompetence coupled with arrogance. Much of the planet has been the scene of a decades long rise in technological wizardry and productive capacity alongside diminishing public health, growing financial and social problems, and concentration of wealth. Global oligopoly, based on fraud, is the game, and it ain’t working for most of us. By contrast Russia, despite enormous challenges, appears to be making real broad headway.
The globally now widespread and growing realization that many official narratives – 9/11 is an iconic example – are completely bogus, that the ‘war on terror’ are wars of aggressive terror, that western governments are supine or enthusiastic participants in direct or by proxy wars of aggression, further puts the very legitimacy of many governments into question. Russia resisted, feebly yes, but resisted, the destruction of Yugoslavia based on lies and subterfuge and aggressive war, they did not attack Iraq, they did not bomb Libya, they help Syria resist invasion.
And more and more people are understanding that the old mass media comprehensively, and even a large swath of the so-called alternative media, are participants in and enablers of harming the human prospect: disinformation, censorship, and abdication of any semblance of real journalism.
In contrast there is Russia Today, not perfect, but more informative, more honest, than all of the West’s major ‘news’ outlets put together.
And that is perhaps the greatest threat posed by Russia to global hegemony projects: Honest and full and well informed discourse is the permanent nemesis of tyranny and criminality on high and systems of manipulation. More than Russia’s military might, or resolve, it is the capacity of Russia to provide honest discourse via satellite transmissions to mass audiences that threatens the pathology that has gained global dominance. In the name of peace on earth and humanity’s success, Russia could use help from other countries – Iceland has made steps in that direction – in facilitating large scale honest geo-politically and financially related discourse. Russia is now too solitary as the planet’s most effective national impediment to evil.
I remember reading on the 1990s russia after ‘liberation ‘ was a parlous place , with male death from alcoholism, the military in disarray . Things looked very bad after Glasnost. But then Putin appeared out if nowhere and , Hollywood lacks the gorm to script this , an ex KGB official began to put russia on road to recovery mainly by turning around Russia’s economy and taking the oligarchs head on.
Russia had gotten lucky!
Then came the battle with khodorkovsky and Halliburton , which he won . Russia’s recent Sochi Olympics is a symbol is Russia’s rejuvenation : a Phoenix Olympics
“Not to nitpick…but I seem to recall something about Britain and France going to war over the issue of Polish security.
Oh yeah, and Russia being ALLIED with Nazi Germany in the dismemberment of Poland…”
It would lead to an interesting debate, v.g., to find out if the Nazi-Soviet Pact was or wasnt a direct consequence of the Munich fiasco, which the GB sold the Czechs to the nazis with the hope to turn Hitler to the East.
In “Rise and fall of the 3th Reich” the author described Stalin was perplexed by Chambarlain action in Munich, because USSR, France were determined to guarantee the Czech integraty, even with militar operation.
Wait, you don’t hate Jews? That’s it, I’m done with this blog!
Just kidding, of course. Great post and good timing for it!
Robert Snefjella, very well said.
the peoples are awakening everywhere about the looting and killings of there fellow beings and the majority of us dont accept this as a way of life. I live in EU and am getting more and more ashamed of this mob style governments.
The ” russofobics bigot” wants “the unipolar world”. One boss, one master, one capo – America uber alles. Putin is the best president in the last hundred years of the Russian history. May God bless Russia and Putin.
From Italy
VINEYARDSAKER: “So is Putin lying? Hell yes! Absolutely.”
I dont believe that Putin is lying. International law is part of Russias military doctrine.
I think he told us at the news conference how Russias actions can be squared with international law:
“He denied that military personnel in unmarked uniforms who now control much of Crimea are Russian forces, describing them instead as “local defense forces.”
“Look at the people who were operating in Kiev – they were very well trained at special camps in Poland and Lithuania, they were trained by special structures,” he said. “Why do you think that the self-defense forces in Crimea should be any less professional?””
My guess is, that the so called self-defence forces are crimean paramilitary units which have been trained and equiped by Russia. De jure no Russian forces, therefore no invasion by Russia.
The citation was from the NYTimes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/world/europe/ukraine.html
Concerning the question of whether Putin in lying or not about Russian troops in Crimea, an article in “The Daily Beast” claimed that the troops that took over the airport were “security contractors” like Blackwater, and thus not technically Russian troops.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/28/exclusive-russian-blackwater-takes-over-ukraine-airport.html
Ignatius Burns
Regarding “international law,” The Law of Nations by Vattel is cited as the single most influential work in the drafting of the US Constitution, and while not binding law, it might be likened to the notion of natural law among nations and therefore could actually be considered more powerful than acts of legislation because it is fundamentally immutable. In my mind, legitimate legislation and adjudication are ways of teasing out the nuances of natural law – if they reach beyond that they are inherently illegitimate.
Somebody above spoke of a piece in he thought Atlantic about the dismal state of Russia. I believe he is talking about this
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/05/russia-is-finished/302220/
“The unstoppable descent of a once great power into social catastrophe and strategic irrelevance “
Makes interesting reading today — I often refer to it.
I am an ethnic chinese from Malaysia and I support Russia’s stance on Syria & Ukraine. Thank you for pushing back against the mainstream western media…even if just a little bit.
. Errrrhhhh – no. Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on 30 January 1933, and Hitler seized power several months later after the Reichstag Fire with the enactment of the Enabling Act. It is true that in the March 1933 elections the Nazis secured the largest number of seats in the Reichstag, but they had only 33% of them, and Hitler was not one of the legislators (he was appointed Chancellor).
Very well said. Russophobia is bigotry!