The Ukrainian civil war has reached a turning point and a lot of separate facts point to this conclusion:
Military situation on the ground
The Ukies are losing, badly. All the reports from Novorussian sources agree that the Ukie forces are either surrounded or in full retreat. But Ukies sources also confirm this. In Kiev, angry demonstrations by nationalists accuse the military high command of minimizing the real casualty figures, of having abandoned the forces fighting in the Donbass. Even Oleg Liashko has stated that the Ukie forces have been “betrayed”. Demonstrations have taken place in from of the Ukie General Staff which many Right Sector protesters which are demanding the creation of a “generals battalion” which would be formed of only generals who would be sent to fight personally (an excellent idea, which I fully approve of!). Others are also demanding the resignation of the Ukie Minister of Defense. Ukrainian woman are regularly stopping military convoys on the roads, often by standing or lying down in front of trucks, to prevent their men from being sent to death. Entire Ukie battalions are deserting from the front and Special Forces are sent to stop them. Apparently, the Ukie police is afraid to arrest the soldiers for desertion because of their large numbers. The city of Mariupol is now surrounded and the local political elites and SBU personnel have fled. Poroshenko cancelled his trip to Turkey and gathered his Security Council. Kolomoiski, who controls the southwestern Ukraine, did the same thing with his own Security Council (yes, since he has his own army, is also has his own security council). Tymoshenko wants the introduction of full martial law. The male population up to 60 is now conscripted (though not called up as far as I know). Iatseniuk and Poroshenko have both demanded that NATO intervene and accept the Ukraine as some special ally. In other words, all the signs are of total complete and utter panic in Kiev.
Political situation
Russia: Putin met with Poroshenko and the EU leaders and delivered them a very simple yet stark message: “don’t talk to us, we are not a party to the conflict – talk to the Novorussians“. By the way, the Kremlin now openly speaks of “Novorussian” and “Novorussian forces”. Furthermore, the Russians are also officially sending in a second aid convoy and they have announced that this will not be the only one. In the UN Security Council the Russian Representative, Vitalii Churkin, has dared the Ukie Rep to explain where the recording of the conversations between the Kiev ATC and MH17 were hidden and why. With the Fall rapidly arriving, the EU has pushed Kiev to renew gas negotiations which the Russians have declared “deadlocked”. By all accounts, the “Voentorg” (a Russian contraction meaning “Military Trade”, which was the name for the Soviet era building were military gear could be purchased) between Russia and Novorussia has further increased and the Novorussian are now getting more men, including specialists, and more equipment.
Contrary to the predictions of the Putin bashing crowd, the replacement of Strelkov by Zakharchenko was not followed by any “sellout” of Novorussia. Quite to the contrary, as soon as Zakharchenko took power the Novorussians went on a general offensive. As for Strelkov himself, he is apparently in good health and is supposed to make a public appearance today in Crimea. So all that talk about Putin backstabbing Novorussia, him having some kind of deal with Obama, about Strelkov having been eliminated by Putin’s Spetsnaz and all the rest of the doom and gloom propaganda of the Putin haters has now clearly shown to be absolute rubbish. Clearly, some Putin bashers are paid by Russian oligarchs, others are just to dull to understand the sophisticated policy of the Kremlin in the Ukraine. Whatever may be the case, these shrills are now completely discredited by fact and forced to walk away in shame.
Putin’s latest move is nothing short of brilliant. Think of it: the mothers and wives of Ukie servicemen are demanding that their men be returned to them, the regime in Kiev ignores them, and Putin steps in to agree with them and asks the Novorussians to open humanitarian corridors to allow them to safely leave and go back home. Thus, he shows more concern for the Ukies than the Ukie regime, he encourages the desertion of Ukie soliders, he minimizes the casualties on all sides, and he deals another death-blow to Ukie morale. Best of all, he achieves all this by a simple statement written in such a way that nobody can possibly condemn him for anything. As for the Novorussians, Zakharchenko has already agreed, but on the condition that the Ukies leave behind all their heavy weapons and the ammo for it. Perfect. Needless to say, the Ukie high command has rejected the offer and ordered the surrounded units to break out guns blazing. Just imagine how that response feels to the relatives of those stuck in the various “cauldrons”!
The EU: the EU is totally stuck. Apparently, the chaos in Banderastan combined with the Russian sanctions and the gas crisis is gradually having an effect in the dull brains of the Eurobureaucrats who are coming to realize that they have been at least as stupid as the Ukies and that the US has used them for their own imperial goals. “Fuck the EU” indeed. Badly. The best these hapless bureaucrats could do is to go to Minsk and agree to negotiate with Russia the terms under which the Ukraine would ratify the Agreement with the EU. Exactly that which Russia had been demanding from Day 1 and which the EU had always been contemptuously rejecting with the arrogant “none of your business” reply. Now Ashton and a few others had to eat humble pie and kindly ask the Russian to come and talk to them.
The US: Poor Uncle Sam is really looking pathetic, foolish and confused. The very best the USA can do is to accuse Russia of invading the Ukraine and only threaten more sanctions as Obama has already admitted that the US has no military option in the Ukraine. To measure the degree of disarray amongst the US Neocons I will just quote from an article written recently by Herbert E. Meyer, former Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence and Vice Chairman of the CIA’s National Intelligence Council during the Reagan Administration, for American Thinker and modestly entitled “How to Solve the Putin Problem“. Here is what this genius came up with:
Since subtlety doesn’t work with Russians, the president and his European counterparts should also make absolutely clear that we have no interest whatever in how these people (the Russian oligarchs) solve their Putin problem. If they can talk good old Vladimir into leaving the Kremlin with full military honors and a 21-gun salute — that would be fine with us. If Putin is too too stubborn to acknowledge that his career is over, and the only way to get him out of the Kremlin is feet-first, with a bullet hole in the back of his head — that would also be okay with us.
Nor would we object to a bit of poetic justice…. For instance, if the next time Putin’s flying back to Moscow from yet another visit with his good friends in Cuba, or Venezuela, or Iran, his airplane gets blasted out of the sky by some murky para-military group that somehow, inexplicably, got its hands on a surface-to-air missile
I don’t know if Mr. Meyer thinks that Mrs Nuland delivering cookies on the Maidan was the subtlety the Russian did not appreciate or understand, or if his own article is an expression of US subtlety, but he clearly has “Pat Robertson moment” (the latter wanted the US to kill Hugo Chavez) which just proves that the AngloZionists don’t have a diplomacy as such and that magical thinking is a key coping mechanism when that lack of diplomacy becomes obvious.
Where do we go from here?
It’ hard to tell. I think that Oleg Tsarev is right when he says that as soon as the Ukie regime begins collapsing the West will suddenly ask for negotiations. Zakharchenko in his crucial press conference has clearly indicated that options such as federalization or decentralization are off the table and that nothing short of full independence will do. Maybe. Maybe not. There are plenty of historical examples which show that separatist movements eventually settled for less, often wisely so. But in this case, we are dealing with several intertwined problems:
a) Geographical: the Ukraine is an artificial country
b) Political: internally the regime in Kiev is Nazi
c) Geo-strategic: externally the regime in Kiev is a russophobic US puppet
d) Economic: the Ukraine is economically dead
All these factors clearly point to the same conclusion: the Ukraine needs to be broken-up. This might happen catastrophically – the East going to Novorussia, the South to Kolomoiski, the Center to Poroshenko and the West breaking off completely. There are some signs that this is already gradually happening. Furthermore, this is all made worse by the undeniable fact that the Ukraine is already a failed state and that a seizable minority of the Ukrainian population if formed of truly rabid nationalists. So right now things don’t look too good for any negotiated solution. Novorussia probably has the potential to rebuild and to become a more or less livable, stable place: most of its industry is in ruins, but it’s “human capital”, it’s people, are very bright and hard working and its political leaders clearly capable people. But short of some kind of miracle, the rest of the Ukraine is probably going to slouch to towards the kind of mess the USA is so good at leaving behind in places like Libya or Iraq. Maybe not, maybe the Europeans will finally grow a spine and tell the US to stay out and then try to solve this ugly mess with Russia. I am not holding my breath, not as long as the current AngloZionist nomenklatura is in power in the EU.
One thing could possibly change this downward spiral: a regime change in Kiev. I don’t mean one replacing Poroshenko by Liashko or Iarosh, but an anti-Nazi insurrection or coup. I will be honest with you, with kind of terror the SBU and the oligarchs are capable of meting out to the general public, this is not very likely. But who knows what might happen on a wave of popular discontent? If the current freaks could be kicked out by halfway sane people and a process of denazification initiated, then maybe something could still be salvaged? Again, I am not very hopeful. But let’s stick to current events.
Current situation
I would say that things look better right now than ever before. This is far, far from over, and many things could go wrong but at least at this moment in time things look pretty good. Short of a sudden reversal, the cities of Lugansk and Donetsk are probably going to be freed from most of the shelling within 10-14 days. Currently, the Novorussians control the entire border between Russia and Novorussia, which makes the Voentorg much easier. Zakharchenko and his men seem to be making an excellent job and rumor has it that Strelkov will be back soon in some special capacity. The Novorussian leadership and the Kremlin are clearly on the same wavelength and there is no reason to suspect an over Russian military intervention. I am confident that the Black Sea Fleet will do what is needed to keep the Novorussian coast safe so as long as the Ukies are not able to mount a surprise attack from the North, Mariupol will probably fall very soon. There are increasing reports of partisan movements in Zaporozhie and that, if true, is something very interesting which might begin to affect other areas and cities such as Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk. I still don’t see Novorussian tanks headed for Kiev, but an operational success seems to be in the making right at this moment in time.
I am by character, education and trade a rather cautious person, but today I am cautiously optimistic, at least for Novorussia.
The Saker
Post Scriptum: this just in from a good friend:
DPR
– Volnovakha taken by Novorossiya Armed Forces (NAF); South-Western Cauldron closed off.
– Yalta (near Mariupol) taken, NAF is now 12 km away from Mariupol.
– Mariupol – Zaporozhye (Berdyansk) road closed off by NAF. Virtually all settlements around Mariupol appear to be taken by NAF. Mariupol Cauldron closed off.
– Fighting has crossed the border into Zaporozhye. Saboteur-Reconnaissance Groups (SRG) and guerrillas active inside Zaporozhye’s borders.
– Ukrainian punitive forces surrendering in the many cauldrons, the rate of surrenders is picking up pace.
– NAF is pushing outward toward Yasinovataya, Maryinka, Karlovka, Krasnogorovka (west of Donetsk)
AND, the BIGGEST (albeit not fully confirmed) NEWS: Donetsk Airport taken by NAF today.
LPR
– Lutugino partially controlled by the Militia, very heavy urban combat there, although Rodakovo was lost (plans to retake it shortly).
– Lyashko appears to be still trapped in Severodonetsk, which is besieged by Mozgovoi’s Brigade (I have no further information since a couple of days ago).
– LPR has encircled Shchastye and Metallist and is advancing on the Ukrainian positions there, as well as in the north-eastern direction (Stanitsa Luganskaya, which still remains contested).
– NAF continues to advance on Deblatsevo, taking checkpoints on the outskirts of the city.
– LPR is planning some major advances in the next few days, hopefully to clean up most of the remaining cauldrons.
PPS: and this from Russia Today:
Poland has refused overflight rights to the plane of Russia’s defense minister, Sergey Shoigu, who was on his way from Slovakia, RIA Novosti’s correspondent reported. The plane has landed in Bratislava.
The minister was returning from the celebrations of the 70th anniversary of the Slovakian national uprising that took place in the town of Banská Bystrica.
However, Poland banned entrance into its airspace for the Tu-154 plane, according to a RIA Novosti correspondent who was on board, citing one of the crewmembers.
The plane had to take a U-turn and landed in Bratislava an hour later.
Negotiations are being held on the matter at the moment. All the passengers are now on board the plane.
Comment: rather petty and infantile behavior in my opinion. This really begs the question of what the Poles think that they will achieve with this other than the dubious honor of “servicing” Uncle Sam once more (those who follow Polish politics will know what I mean).
Excellent news, of course. There is real hope for the victory of Novorussia in the clash with Nazism (which has never gone anywhere, it has always been alive in the twisted minds of the “elites”). The fight against the blind forces of destruction, though, will not be won in one battle, or any time soon. They are still very strong and resourceful.
And let’s never forget all the pain and sorrow the Nazis have brought on millions. Again.
I’ve seen with my own eyes huge chunks of concrete fly like monstrous birds, and I’ve heard with my own ears the horrible screams of the wounded. So I have to ask those of you who don’t know firsthand how unbearably ugly war is – please, let’s not turn our joy for Novorussia’a victories into some “war porn fest”. We can be happy without being cheerful about it. No offense meant to anybody.
Vladimir from Bulgaria
Auslander,
I second your motion.
What is your take on Strelkov and Borodai not showing for the Yalta confab, per Cassad?
And give us a report on the meeting there if you know what went on and the dynamics of it all.
Thanks for your reports and comments. From someone who lives close enough to almost see, hear and smell the war, you are invaluable.
The western journalists have just tweeted that there is no ‘Russian’ invasion in Mariupol and that it is not surrounded. Let me guess at what is going to happen over the weekend. Popular demonstrations and guerilla activity. Any military breakout attempts will be interdicted by NAF guerillas. New NAF navy and airforce elements may come into play. And the ‘front’ will move on. No long-distance shelling of UA positions, no civilian casualties. Mariupol is a static event, it has been taken.
Reposted on front page at
OoEdNews.com
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ukraine-US-EU-Puppet-Regi-by-The-Saker-Donetsk_European-Union_Lugansk_Novorussia-140829-292.html
and
UkraineWar.Info
http://www.ukrainewar.info/ukraine-us-eu-puppet-regime-free-fall/
Zhal’ , ne tak ssylka:
Sorry, wrong link:
Pust’ rasprostranyat’ lyubov’:
Let love spread:
http://youtu.be/z1a3Z2sS9G0
Just read a very interesting article by Clive Maund. Its a must read! About the fight against Russia by US/EU/Nato, a fight for the Dollar basically.
http://www.clivemaund.com/article.php?art_id=3278&PHPSESSID=858d95f877010a9291c0b959c269ab82
Its confirms much of what we know already, but its well written for all to understand, hence reason i think we should all share around the world. Thanks.
Just read a very interesting article by Clive Maund. Its a must read! About the fight against Russia by US/EU/Nato, a fight for the Dollar basically.
http://www.clivemaund.com/article.php?art_id=3278&PHPSESSID=858d95f877010a9291c0b959c269ab82
Its confirms much of what we know already, but its well written for all to understand, hence reason i think we should all share around the world. Thanks.
Shoigu April 17, 2014
“As for the allegations about the involvement of the Russian special task force in the events in Ukraine the only thing to say to that is that searching for a black cat in a dark room is very difficult, especially if there is no cat there at all. It is particular silly if the cat is clever, bold and polite.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/728404
—
Humour:
Moscow calling SBU officer August 2014
– The cat is hungry.
– Understood.
– Do you have a plan?
– I will think of something.
—
Presidential residence Kiev August 2014
– I have it on good authority there is a Russian cat in Donbass, Mr President.
– So what? Cats are cats. What are you guys at SBU thinking? Why bother me with cats? I am getting tired of strange reports.
– This particular cat is not what it seems to be.
– What is wrong with it?
– It is a Russian cat, Mr President, a Russian cat. That says it all.
– Yes, I suppose it does, but, eh, what does it say?
– You know these Moskals. They don’t send a cat, unless they plan something.
– What do they plan?
– We don’t know yet, but we intend to find out, of course.
– I’m lost.
– I’ll use simple words, Mr President. The cat is black and clever.
– And?
– Could be a Trojan horse of sorts. We have had our best minds working on the problem and we think we have come up with a solution.
– What have you come up with?
– We think it is best to force the cat to reveal itself. We want to send a mouse to Donbass.
– A mouse? Why infest the place with mice?
– Cats are cats, as you said. They find a big fat mouse irresistible.
– And then?
– The whole world will see the cat for what it is.
– No, I am not buying it.
– Mr President, this is not a real cat. This is a Russian plot of sorts. We want to set a trap and find out what it is. Right now we are fumbling in the dark.
– I can see that.
– The cat is polite. We want it to lose its temper.
– How do you intend to do that?
– This is the plan, Mr President, this is the plan….
—
Two hours later….
– I understand. What do you propose?
– Perhaps we can lure Kolomoisky to Donbass.
– Mmm.
– Yarosh and his men?
– That is a possibility.
– Parubiy?
– Good idea, but I have a better plan.
– What is the plan, Mr President?
—
The ministry of the interior August 2014
– Igor, how are you?
– Why the ____ do you ask that? I am _____.
– Sorry about that.
– What do you want, you ____?
– SBU just told me the terrorists are sitting on four billion dollars.
– Billions? Those ______ . Tell me more.
– They plan a deal with Poroshenko and/or Akhmetov. Very profitable.
– Four billions? ____.
– Yes, Igor.
– What a ____. That must not happen. Set up a meeting. Tell those ________ I want to talk.
– They will probably want a meeting in Donetsk. Perhaps you should insist on Azov security guards? Or, Yarosch and his best men, perhaps?
– Good idea. I will call these _________ at once.
—
SBU officer calling Moscow August 2014
– The cat will soon be fed.
– A tempting target?
– It certainly is, a real rat and some smaller rats instead of mice.
– Good. The cat is waiting.
And Poles do not run Poland, Goy haters, enemy aliens do. Ditto all Europe.
Winston Churchill made an apt remark calling Poland the «Greedy Hyena of Europe»
http://orientalreview.org/2014/08/28/poland-and-ukraine-history-of-break-downs/
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/08/14/must-poles-care-for-russian-graves.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
http://orientalreview.org/2010/07/31/episode-4-who-ignited-the-first-world-war-i/
And also book: The Forced War, by Hoggan.
After Y’all read this stuff then tell me something about this cute cindirella named Poland.
basho,
though nearly all in U.K. are clueless to the real events in Ukraine, Tony Blair is seen as a fucking embaresment and despised to most.
Dear Saker,
Thanks for the excellent report.
The world has not seen a leader but Putin.
MegaAlexandrou, Napoleon and the great men of the western world were signed by ephimery when not complete destruction.
This is the first man to think and act integratively.
Undoubtedly, his instruction in the former USSR and his passage through the security services, rather than breeding a megalomaniac paranoid, has been directed to the effect of reconstructing his country AND establishing for the first time in our known history, the possibility of a real unity in diversity. He is the first nondualistic politician ever seen. Would we compare this modus vivendi with the zero sum game of the last thousands of years, one can start to become optimistic about the fatebof humankind
Wait Just a nano second here.
RT has a screen headline NATO To Finance Ukraine Army with this story in print: Ukraine moves to drop non-aligned status, apply for NATO membership
Ukraine’s Cabinet has asked the country’s parliament to consider dropping the country’s non-aligned status and seek membership of NATO.
[.]
The move followed a decision by Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council. It also coincided with an emergency meeting of NATO ambassadors in Brussels to discuss the ongoing crisis in east Ukraine.
If passed, the law would ban Ukraine from joining any political unions which would prevent it from eventually achieving “its key and sole goal” – membership in the European Union, Yatsenyuk said, the government’s press service said in a statement.
Following the adoption of the law, Ukraine will be forbidden from being a member of the Eurasian Customs Union and Eurasian Economic Community, and any other unions “which are in essence nothing but Russia’s Soviet Union,” Yatsenyuk stated.
[.]
Rasmussen said earlier that would attempt to overcome internal opposition and agree to the deployment of military bases near the Russian border.
The military bloc is also establishing four trust funds to finance the modernization of the Ukrainian army. Some member states, Rasmussen said, have already said they were planning to make their donations to these funds.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
NATO membership? Will need to suspend the NATO Constitution – unless they intend to recognize Crimea as Russian territory.
Playing with matches. Those donations best go to paying for gas this winter.
AM
Kick Russia Out Of SWIFT, UK Demands; But Beware The Retaliation…
UK Prime Minister David Cameron came out swinging this morning; not only at ISIS but in calling for European leaders to block Russia from the SWIFT banking transaction system. European leaders have already (via unnamed sources) denied any actual new sanctions will take place (though they will be discussing them at the NATO Summit) but – as we have noted previously – this is yet another unintended consequence-driven nail in the coffin of USD hegemony…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/kick-russia-out-swift-uk-demands-beware-retaliation
Let us never forget that on the day of the Odessa Massacre, May 2, 2014, Obama and Merkel gave a press conference from the Rose Garden at the White House, Washington, DC. Instead of condemning human rights violations in Ukraine, they condemned the Russian Federation.
Poroshenko sold his chocolate Roshen company (a part of which operates in Russia) to the older son of Victor Yanukovich, the same President of Ukraine whom Maidan deposed. While Yanukovich’s Party of Regions is politically dead, though its present and former deputies (with Oleg Tzarev’s noble and notable exception) collaborate with the Nazi junta, Poroshenko seems, by this move, to signal that, under current circumstances (Ukraine’s economy and military collapsing), he is willing to trade with “the enemy.”
The point still is that Poroshenko has just sold a significant portion of his possession to the family of the symbolic, iconic enemy of Maidan itself and that the Yanukovich family did not mind being the buyer of Poroshenko’s fortune.
http://g-novosti.in.ua/item/1581-poroshenko-prodal-korporatsiyu-roshen-starshemu-synu-yanukovicha
On August 28, Igor Kolomeysky, the head of the new Khazaria project, declared that, because of the advances of the Army of Novorossiya on Mariupol, he!!! is taking control over Mariupol as well as of Zaporozhiye and its region into his own hands–for “he cannot rely on Kiev.” The western and central south of the former Ukraine is now thus almost officially not just a “Banderstaat,” but a khanate of Kolomeysky himself. It is worth reminding that Kolomeysky also used the Odessa massacre not only for pacifying Odessa, but also for carrying out his takeover of the city of Odessa itself.
In addition, his right hand and deputy, Boris Filatov, arrived in the city of Zaporozhiye and ordered the local authorities to prepare a possible destruction of the gigantic damn DneproGas. At this point, the threat of blowing up this super-damn sounds like a scare tactic. If this terror threat of such mass destruction and devastation were used by anyone else but this Nazi, it would be roundly condemned by all the major media with calls for possible arrest or indictment, which is exactly what should happen. Both Kolomeysky and his sidekick Filatov must be treated as present and imminent threats to public safety. http://dnr-news.com/dnr/2908-kolomoyskiy-mozhet-vzorvat-dneproges-esli-opolchenie-zaymet-zaporozhe.html
don’t know if this has been posted here yet – but there’s an utterly beautiful interview with Alexei Mozgovi over at Slavyangrad.org, Gleb Bazov’s site:
Alexei Mozgovoi: Freedom and Conscience: this will be Novorossia !
I think I’ve seen his name mentioned here and the interview is several days old, but it’s long and the translation just got posted today.
He’s a commander in the NAF, very articulate and moving. Reading, I keep hearing his voice as if in a documentary, and I long for the days in the future when these stories are told in many films and other cultural platforms.
If I was in charge I would put civilian protection from GRADs and artillery far higher than it is at present, instead of running off to fight elsewhere.
The military is primarily there to protect its PEOPLE and property, not going off on ego trips.
Re: 19:24
“I am afraid I don’t understand how many posters here use the term “zionist.” To me, it has always meant those in favor of Israeli statehood.”
I believe that is the basic sense. But this belief in Israeli statehood carries a superstructure, or, rather, is buttressed by a foundation, of other beliefs: the moral and legal rightness of it, the right of members of the Jewish religion to have their very own state, the belief that God gave them this land, the belief that they are God’s elected People. REally, most of these beliefs are ridiculous. As are many other ideas promulgated in different religions, which I will not enumerate here. Except for one: The idea that one people is teh elect of God and therefore has had a secial gift of real estate from God and therefore can kick sand in teh face of anyone who happens to disagree or even already live on that real estate is not that different from the belief of the early Protestants that their material well-being was a sign that THEY were the elect of God and that they had a right to all that they possessed and pretty much wahtever they did to achieve material success was thus godly. Both of these self-serving “we are the elect” ideas are totally undemocratic and in humane. (It is interesting that “We get to be rich plus godly” has been kind of elbowed aside by “WE get to occupy new homes in the Occupied Territories plus be godly” just as the real estate market in New York City started to go through the roof!)
So, back to what does Zionism mean? Bare bones, the belief in the validity of the idea of the Israeli state for Jewish people. But I believe that the whole family of supporting beliefs also can be called part of the Zionism belief system and those who hold them can be called Zionists. I just read in Harper’s Index that 40% of American Jews believe that God gave Israel to the Jewish people. So, I think it is reasonable to call such people Zionists. In fact, perhaps one can call them “pro-Semitics,” meaning they think it is right and normal for Jews to have a special advantage or special treatment. Or, as the punch line goes: “But is it good for the Jews?”
Katherine, USA citizen
Breaking:like usual,there will be an EU meeting in Brussels…
suddenly we have this from the dutch govt
The flight MH17 flying 1,000 feet lower than expected
AFP.
The order of flying less high than normal was made by the Ukrainian aviation authorities.
The MH17 flight of Malaysia Airlines that crashed in mid-July in Ukraine, probably after a missile was flying 1,000 feet lower than projected flight plan, a minister said Friday Dutch Foreign Affairs.
“Flight MH17 was, according to its flight plan, flying at a height of 11,000 meters (flight level 350) but received the Ukrainian aviation authorities in order to fly at a height of 10,000 meters (flight level 330), “said Frans Timmermans, the Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs, in response to parliamentary questions. “This change may be due to operational reasons, to ensure sufficient distance between the MH17 flight and another aircraft flying at 11 km in height. “Apart from the change in altitude, the MH17 flight plan was not amended, the minister said.
The flight plan had been approved by Eurocontrol, for which the minimum flying height in the region was 9.7 kilometers, according to Dutch news agency ANP.
Malaysia Airlines Boeing ensuring Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur link was probably shot down by a missile during its flyby of eastern Ukraine. It was carrying 298 people, including 193 Dutch nationals.
http://www.lesoir.be/640162/article/actualite/monde/2014-08-29/vol-mh17-volait-1000-metres-plus-bas-que-prevu
I don’t know you,but tonight I do have a strange feeling that a big false flag will happen before or during the NATO show next week(in Wales)4 and 5th of sept…’comme par hasard’ as we say in french
Paul II, basho,
Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporiza, Kherson, Mykolayiv and Odessa would have a nice natural boundary and grow a whole lot of wheat. ;~) I wonder if Sumy is in the running…
Auslander,
Thank you for your strong dose of reality. Euphoria feels so good, and is soooo dangerous in a time of war! ;~) It ain’t over till it’s over and we’re a looong way from that. There’s a lot to spin out first, in lots of places, not just Ukraine.
Anonymous 19:12
Ordinary Jews have the same responsibility to think for themselves as any other (also brainwashed) population. No exceptions.
mindful,
Yeah. Isn’t that the way it’s been used? Unfortunately, the State of Israel is an exclusionary, expansionist and deeply racist society whose welfare its American supporters frequently, and treasonously, put ahead of the United States. Were it truly “the only democracy in the Middle East” — i.e., grant full citizenship rights to people whose families have lived there for thousands of years and the self-determination promised to the residents of Gaza and the Occupied Territories at the same time it gained statehood, perhaps the term Zionist would be less of an epithet.
Re: Fuck the EU
Give this Nuland bitch some credit.
She’s got a point.
@where-wolf, Aug. 29, 2014 22:03.
Re: “give this nuland bitch some credit (re: Fuck the EU), she’s got a point”.
I couldn’t agree more, she sure has fucked the EU: by proving to the Russian elites and people that they’d be comiting national suicide if they were to ever trust the closet Nazis of the EU and German leadership, by creating a situation where the Russians will no longer have any further illusions that Europe is their partner, and by making sure that the EU will be hemmed-in from the West by America and from the East by Russia – scuppering the EU’s superpower ambitions forever.
Indeed, Nuland has fucked the EU. (whether she meant to do this or was manipulated into doing this is another story).
Greetings from the UK, it is indeed a beautiful day. This is the second time that Russia has saved Europe from fascism.
Anonymous said
Dude you need to breeze hard and get some altitude, Saker or not Saker? ;)
This particular Saker is a most remarkable falcon (don’t you know) with marvellous transformational powers allowing it to become a human, (every falcon needs a break now and again)and then he can be heard singing softly to himself, “Oh what a beautiful morning,
Oh what a beautiful day,
I’ve got a wonderful feeling,
Everything’s going my way”
Before heading upwards into the breeze again . . .
“I dont know any ukies.. So I cant compare.. But I think polaks and ukies are the same people.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians
So in some point in the past they were all one tribe and spoke the same language what developed into sanskrit (Lithuanian language is Sanskrit). This developed into balto-slavic langauges. Greatest change hapen after Northern crusades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades
They all must kiss Stalin’s hands that he and Russians were able to push descendants of Charlemagne out of Slavic land. Actualy R1a are aryans, author of vedas. It is their history. http://www.r1a.org
Prod Slav
So, how much of Kiev’s army remains?
@Anonymous 16:35
SINGULARITY — like that chemically induced ‘magic trick,’ is a crock.
Please be more discerning.
Seriously tho, you might enjoy this podcast. Fair warning, it starts slow and Jan Irvin is a dick.
GnosticMedia PC 157 JoseBarrera2 Supernatural MindControl 1 hr 36 mins
Soldiers from fascist battalions are talking about Maidan 3.0 against the current leaders and higher command. Some thousand people are now in Kiev sharply criticizing the higher command of the junta. The fact, confirmed from many sources, is that the command of the junta’s military is enjoying universal contempt, derision, and has no trust or esteem. Poroshenko himself and other Maidan leaders are only half a step from being packed together in this category with the generals. http://ru.faktxeber.com/News_h434311.html
There is a slight problem with calling Zionists as Semitic. It has been lately confirmed by several labs around the world, the latest by a team whose head is an Israeli living in the USA, that indeed the genome of Ashkenazis is unrelated to that of Semites. It rather shows a linkage with a Turkish lineage as already claimed by Alfred Koestler, in his much forgotten THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, i.e. the Khazars. These tribes which came from the Caucasus, and mixed with the Scythians, inhabited what is presently called Ukraine. They had a rather violent relation with the Slavs and Vikings, which they took for slaves. They became a kind of buffer empire between Bizancium and Asia, and the Western world.
In distinction with the Jews that remained in the Middle East and populated the Mediterranean and later Spain, Sefarad in Hebrew and thus called Sefardim, which were forced to emmigrate from Spain in 1492 and managed to escape to Morocco, Tunez, Yemen, Greecr, Turkey, Ashkenazim and Sefardim (also called Oriental Jews), they have different genetic traces, and very different illnesses. In Israel, Sefardim are overlooked by the Ashkenazim as “inferior”, and upon their arrival to Israel in the 1950s, thousands of them were treated to massive doses of radioactivity. A kind of internal ethnic cleansing. But this discrimination of the Sefardim is worlwide, they rarely intermarry.
It very much seems that Kholomoiskii wants to restart the Khazar empire, as crazy as this may seem. He is aware that Israel may not last for long unless it redirects its diplomacy towards Eurasia. A very complex game. Ooops, forgot to mention, that genetic studies pending, the Palestinians might be remnants of the Jews after the demise of the kingdom of Judah and the destruction of the Second Temple.
The situation is not looking good for the coup government in Kiev. Some of the neo-nazi national guard battalions have even threatened to come to Kiev to “clean the house.”
The loss of the battle is also the reason why Ukraine now really, really fast wants to join NATO. That is not going to happen. NATO has a simple rule that countries with internationally disputed areas can not join. Should Ukraine give up on Crimea its move would make sense. But as it can not yet do so the joining request is just helpless yapping. As a little consolidation price the IMF squandered another $1.4 billion by giving it to bancrupt Kiev as a part of a larger loan. Ukraine will probably use that to pay for the T-72 tanks it recently bought from Hungary. Officially the IMF is not allowed to give money to countries at war. That may be the reason why yesterday official talk of an “invasion” by Russia was later toned down to “incursion”.
The military battle defeat was the reason why Russia was accused of an invasion even when the OECD observers says (in German) that they have “no objective information” to support such a claim. Such propaganda rushes as yesterday always follow when the shit hits the fan for the “western” side. They are also occasions to introduce new sanction which from the U.S. point of view, have the nice feature of solely hurting both Europe and Russia. The U.S. poodle in No. 10 now wants to kick Russia out of the SWIFT inter-banking systems:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/08/ukraine-lost-a-battle-west-escalates-with-more-russia-sanctions.html#comments
“For instance, if the next time Putin’s flying back to Moscow from yet another visit with his good friends in Cuba, or Venezuela, or Iran, his airplane gets blasted out of the sky by some murky para-military group that somehow, inexplicably, got its hands on a surface-to-air missile” – Meyer
Calling for the assassination of a foreign leader is punishable by law in most countries, but, of course, we’re talking about a collective [western] attempt to demonize Russia/Putin.
A quick scan of today’s MSM headlines:
a) Russia/Putin/Invasion mentioned; 2478 times
b) Flight MH17 mentioned; 0 times
Thus ‘b’ fully explains how utterly deceitful the western press has become and if anyone still believes in ‘western independent news gathering’ one has to conclude that such a notion has to be very wrong.
That’s why the time has come for the creation of a new word. A word that aptly describes the current unfolding of events:
Putindo
“How did you win this deadlocked game?”
“I did a Putindo on the dude!”
Putindo:
1) Classically outmaneuvering an arrogant opponent to such an extent that the person is convinced all the chickens in the world will come home to roost before nightfall, resulting in hastily conducted retreats and an endless stream of ‘white noise’ [aka Propaganda/MSM news garbage].
2) Complete distraction of an opponent by simultaneous, but always opposite, movements [sending in of aid convoys, the creation of humanitarian corridors, reshuffling of names, etc.] like a world class magician.
“Is that a S-400 battery of-“
“Look, I just pulled a rabbit on a Yamaha motorbike out of my hat!”
“Oh, wow….!”
After having had to watch all this [western] pandering [and now eastern pandering and groveling] for decades, I’m relieved to see at least one leader to stand up against all this madness and say, “Enough is enough. Not one step farther. Stop right there!”
Mr. Putin, well done, sir.
History will eventually fold you in between its pages, but it will give you an iconic place in it.
This really begs the question of what the Poles think that they will achieve with this other than the dubious honor of “servicing” Uncle Sam once more (those who follow Polish politics will know what I mean)
They get five dollars.
This might happen catastrophically – the East going to Novorussia, the South to Kolomoiski, the Center to Poroshenko and the West breaking off completely.
I hope not. The swine needs to die otherwise Odessa will be a cruel dictatorship. Odessa belongs to Novorussia.
The whole South of Ukraine should be taken by the NAF. Leave the rest of Ukraine landlocked and that much more economically weak. And the more land they take now, more attractive it becomes to join them. They should push ahead and hard while they are winning without risking their gains. If they stop it will give Poroshenko and his masters time arming a new batch of fodder. Maybe this time with NATO weaponry.
@Nora 29 August, 2014 21:58
Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporiza, Kherson, Mykolayiv and Odessa would have a nice natural boundary and grow a whole lot of wheat. ;~) I wonder if Sumy is in the running…
Perfect.
And meanwhile in Dresden, Germany …
Angela Merkel is getting a friendly reception:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wSMhGE_Mpk
To fully appreciate the chants:
Kriegstreiber = warmonger
Lügenpack = lying scum
:)
Facts on the ground are overtaking political machinations. What is worrisome is Ukraine’s seeking to hide behind NATO’s Article 5 skirt. Rasmussen seems happy to accommodate Ukraine. This means that this thing has to be settled before the Wales summit next week or Putin will have to officially recognize Novorossia to stave off NATO intervention. This could be the ultimate in brinksmanship and it goes without saying that it’s very dangerous. Rasmussen is certainly crazy enough to push the point. The question is, will he be able to get the member states to go along with this madness?
Obama, as recently as yesterday, stated he had no intention to get militarily involved. However, in the same breath, he stated that all member countries, large of small, were guaranteed protection of Article 5.
Dangerous times, indeed.
Oh those crazy Poles.
When they’re not redirecting passenger jets they’re shootin’ ’em down.
To Lonkal: about the Jews. I have met many nice Jews and hardly any bad ones. Besides, I’m pro-Israel/Jews, and buy stuff from Israel when its in the supermarket; I haven’t boycotted its produce.
As with the USA, I differentiate between the Government/elite/banksters, and the rest. The latter are often victims of their own, warmongering leaders. In the case of the USA, it has been hijacked by the neo-cons, primarily Jews, see a VERY important document: the Project for a New American Century.
In the case of Britain, it has way too many Jews in power, namely camoron, who has Jewish blood in him; the leader of the Opposition, Miliband (and his brother) who actually got it right regarding Syria, well done to him; credit where it is due; the Speaker is Jewish, as is the London mayor; bliar’s right hand man, meddlesome is Jewish, and the fact is, that the Jews in Britain OPENLY admitted that bliar and camoron were BOTH selected to be PM, and what a mess they have created. It wouldn’t be so bad if they hadn’t DELIBERATELY (and admitted to) created a multicultural sh!thole with all and sundry not only being allowed in, but actively sough from around the world. I am therefore not surprised that the Jews have been kicked out of many countries over the centuries. And if you think that any of what I have written above is ‘anti-semitic’ then you really are brain dead – even God in the Old Testament criticised the Jews; what charge do they lay against God then?
P.S. If a Jewish judge in Israel sends a Jewish criminal to jail, does that make him anti-semitic?
Indeed, this is the first glimpse of a possible victory, but while i agree with Auslander in keeping the frugality of caution in our fronts, and in account that the whole conflict was indeed framed as a TOP/DOWN process, the enemy was and is unable to ponder on terms of a nondual non linear logic. They are simply the usual square pegs of using linear thinking, and cannot see nor less predict the natural workings of paradox.
There is a timing for everything, and certainly Putin’s mistake seems to be his initial refusal to call in peacekeeping observers. Now he has made the first few steps to recognize Novorossya as an independent state. Novosti has just announced that the Head of DPR Council, has accepted the ceasefire and creatioj of safe passages with one condition:
Recognition of Novorossya.
This is the political turning point.
Kind regards
Patagonian
UPDATE INFO MH-17
Just published via website Dutch government, 19 pages of Q&A between parliament and cabinet of ministers. I’m still reading the document. The Dutch state there is no non-disclosure agreement between Ukraine, Belgium, The Netherlands and Australia.
Lijst van vragen – Verslag Buitengewone Raad Buitenlandse Zaken van 15
augustus 2014 en brieven “Repatriëringsmissie MH17” en “Stand van
Zaken vliegramp MH17”
The document lists a SBU report – http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=129834&cat_id=39574.
source moon of
OMG! VVP definitely came up with not just one but a whole series of utterly delightful and pointedly accurate Quotes Of The Day!
http://rt.com/news/183760-putin-quotes-seliger-forum/
Try this for size:
“Do you remember the joke: ‘Whatever Russians make, they always end up with a Kalashnikov?’ I get an impression that whatever Americans touch they always end up with Libya or Iraq,”
Or this:
“We’re no fools. We saw symbolic cookies handed out on [by Victoria Nuland] Maidan, information support, political support. What that means? A full involvement of the US and European nations into the process of the power change: a violent unconstitutional power change.”
“And the part of the country that disagreed with that is being suppressed with the use of jets, artillery, multiple launch systems and tanks… If these are today’s European values – I’m gravely disappointed.”
What a truly marvelous man! It’s an honor to be living on the same planet at the same time. And Thank God for the Internet bc otherwise we citizens of the Empire would never have a tenth of a clue… about anything, even in our own country. And thank God for you, Saker, for making this wonderful worldwide community possible.
So the breaking point of the Ukrainian cannon-fodder is near? This is like a timid first glow of real hope for the subverted and degenerated West. Viva Novorussia !
But if the past is any guide, the Empire of Lies has so far met any crises with still bigger lies. And the hoi polloi currently give the impression that they are (just a bit) awakening from their eternal slumber: but will the internet and the honest 10% (my estimation) be strong enough to roll back the coming rollercoaster of lies?
It’s a beautiful day, but fasten your seatbelts.
“Katherine said…Lonkal at 16:27 complained of anti-Semitic sentiments on this blog.”
What means semite- semitic? Language, member of religion, nation?
1, Language. Targeted semites speaks hebrew and yidish.
a, Hebrew is dialect of Akkadian language spoken in babylonia. It developed in way similar to vulgar latin. It was dead language in this days Israel since 5-3 cent BC. It was replaced by another clone of Akkadian- Aramaic. So only reason that hebrew survived is because it was sacred language. It was reinvented as live language by Khazars in mid of 19th cent. Word JEW showed up in the last decades of 18th century. Development is similar to word hindu.(Hinduism). Word hindu originate in dutch/belgian word gentoo (they read G as h-kh). Word gentoo comes from Roman empire and means non citizen who belongs to empire’s provinces (Jus Gentium).
Hebrews chenged this word to gentile, chnaged meaning and put it into their fictions. More at askwhy.co.uk
2, Religion. Biblical jews are palestinians.
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israeli-historian-palestinians-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews.html
They fought in Sea People war as Pelestes, were imprisoned by pharaoh.
http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/sea.htm
On link above watch tatoos of aryans as Libu/Labu. Libya got name from them. They were blond/red haired with blue eyes.
But. 10 commandements are from chapter 125 of Egyptian book of dead or Papyrus of Agni/Ani.
http://www.crystalinks.com/tencommandments.html
Agni is vedic god of fire. Russian word for fire- agon, or english word ignite.
Religion is not made by fairy tales but doctrines. All doctrines of judaism are predated in vedas/zend avesta. Again study askwhy.co.uk
There were 4 main religion lines in Judea in times of Jesus. Judaism as we know it today did not exist. Saduces, zealots, pharisees and nazorean essene.
Word pharisee is mutation of word parsi-farsi= persian. Persian phariseism became rabinism and became judaism. BTW word rabi comes from Babylonia. Ruler’s name was Ham-mu-rabi. His name was most likely Ham, later biblical Ham. Mu particle means non-hereditary ruler in commune. (Kibutz)
http://www.wumingfoundation.com/english/outtakes/wu_ming_on_communism.pdf
There was bunch of pharaohs named Moses in Egypt. like Tut-Mose.
We believe that Moses was Akhenaton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ZVhYPXkho
Akhenaten was Vedic after his wife Nefertiti which was Mitani princes. This ruling dynasty was geneticaly connected to Hittite and Mitani. Mitani were vedic.
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/Akhenaten.pdf
Last thing for now. Kabalah, Sufism, gnosticism originate in Vedas-Vedanta. They are all the same.
I am not antisemite, but I do not like liars
Mr Saker:
One sentence in the paragraph ´where to go from here?´ was very puzzling to me:
´the East going to Novorussia, the South to Kolomoiski, the Center to Poroshenko and the West breaking off completely.´
The south to Kolomoiski? I can not imagine this war criminal not being brought to justice!
I was envisioning an uprising in the southern oblasts once Novorussias victories become more permanent and winter sets in. The supply lines at this time will become shorter once Novorossia will be the northern border of the Crimea. I would think eventually, Novorossia will expand to the eastern border of Transdnistria.
@Katherine 17:34
What a great, great riposte that was.
@ Onan/Anon,
Q: I am against Antisemitism as it is directed at all Jews, not just the Jewish elite.
R: As long as that word is hijacked and only embraces a select few, whilst simultaneously excluding all others [Muslims, Arabs, Palestinians], you can go f*** yourself and shove your AS canard up a place where the sun ain’t shining.
That horse you’re so desperately flogging… it is dead. Very dead.
And I have 1,900 good reasons to back up my thoughts, because they’ve all one thing in common; they’re all dead.
Killed by the Apartheid State’s military goons and cheered on by 80% of the Apartheid State’s inhabitants.
Now, step aside, you’re breathing my air.
“Our partners – whatever condition their countries are in and whatever foreign policy concept they adhere to – should understand that it’s better not to mess with us,” Putin said.
The question is, will the lunatic fringe that apparently now controls the western world take heed of that advice…?
Re: 19:24
“I am afraid I don’t understand how many posters here use the term “zionist.” To me, it has always meant those in favor of Israeli statehood.”
To see an example of the usual zionist methods you might want to read http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/08/27/israel-lobby-eliminates-another-critic-paul-craig-roberts/
Paul Craig Roberts is one of the giants of honest blogging and is read in many countries. And his blog (and of course Saker’s vineyard) is a good place to gradually form your own judgment.
And another keeper of a quote, this time from Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov on the Russian MFA website,
“in the coming hours and days, Kiev`s insinuations will be followed with hypocritical moral admonitions on the Russian Federation from other capitals. Primitiveness and predictability of all that we will hear from the West, does not require a long comment.”
“We answer in advance: before teaching others how to live, start with yourself. Consider the extent to which your words are crossed out with your own business. We are convinced that we are right. And we accuse Kiev and the countries sponsoring it of repeatedly putting their own political, in fact, anti-Russian interests above the immutable norms of benevolence and compassion.”
From the Voice of Sevastopol website: http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2848-russia-will-no-longer-silently-watch-at-people-diying-in-the-area-of-the-so-called-ato.html
Plus — and this is really, really exciting research news — scientists from a subsidiary of the state-owned RUSNANO Corporation have developed a method for detecting very early stage cancers via PCR analysis of turned-off onco-suppressor genes. Almost equally exciting, not only can this testing be done at outpatient clinics bc the instrumentation is commonly available and the work simple enough to be conducted by regular medical staff as opposed to highly-trained specialists, but the results can be obtained in 4-6 hours! This is truly wonderful news indeed.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140829/192469149/Russian-Scientists-Develop-Method-for-Earlier-Detection-of.html
New site discovered:
http://www.elespiadigital.com/index.php/noticias/historico-de-noticias/6657-las-milicias-de-nueva-rusia-rompen-el-frente-ucraniano-y-llegan-al-mar-de-azov-poroshenko-oculta-el-desastre-apelando-a-otra-invasion-rusa
Thank you for the update;
I agree Poland is looking petty in their response. Pandering to their electorate i guess.
It seams that Henny Penny (Ukraine) always comes out with the false report that Russia has invaded when they are losing support.
If it was not for MH17 which I believe was a false flag indecent caused by those close to Ukraine, Ukraine would have lost its war against Ukraine ling ago.
The retribution punitive attacks on Eastern Ukraine are woeful and bring nothing but Shame and disunity to Ukraine. If it was not so serious I would refer to the analogy of the Mouse that Roared Peters sellers movie.
Have you also noticed that Ukraine on a late Thursday/Friday come out with the “Russian have invaded Ukraine story” teh western media report it on teh Friday and by the time that it is proven to be another false flag by the Ukrainian authorities it is on the front pages of teh Times and Western newspapers as thought it is fact. Too late for meaningful any retraction. teh Papers never seam to follow up with a front page saying WE GOT IT WRONG, AGAIN. It blind readership left with the impression that the full on invasion is happening.
If Russia was to invade you would know it and the Ukrainian conflict would be at an end as was the case in Georgia back in 2008
The reports coming from the Lyashko camp that if Kyiv does not support their punitive Pogrom against Eastern Ukraine he will drive his tanks out of the Donbass and head to Kyiv.
Monday is the end of the Summer break and Ukrainians will become more outraged of the war in Ukraine and Poroshenko’s handling on the issue. Any attempt to conscript students to fight in this war will only speed up the discontent in Ukraine.
There will come a point in the time when Russia may say “FUCK THE US” and move in to save Ukraine from Ukraine.
Let the Dniester river become the new Western border of Ukraine. problem solved. Poland gets back Lwow. Mackuchevo is returned to Hungary and Chernotsi Romania
When is the official report on MH17 going to be released and will we see a definitive assessment of the case of the downing of Malaysian Civilian Airline. Is three any chance that they will point the finger at Ukraine or will they leave the question open ended to support the Ukrainian US narrative? I doubt it as the West has too many reputaions hinging on the outcome of of this finding, they will want to make sure that any finding does not reflect poorly in there narrative.
the US has much information that they have not released and I would suspect that Russia has much more evidence also.
There are reports that in a secret deal between Holland, the UK, Australia and Ukraine, Ukraine has a right of veto as to what is released and what statements and findings will be made.
More pressure should be on Ukraine to release the ATC MH17 dates and data.
Ukraine should have been required to undergo an independent Forensic audit of it’s BUK missiles to determine if any are missing or had been fired.
what ever the case the next two week will be crucial in this war of Ukrainian stupidity.
Kolo won’t blow the dam. It would make large parts of Ukraine uninhabitable for almost forever as Ukraine has 19 nuclear plants. Parts of Russia also would have a Fukushima moment. It would definitely be what they refer to as a “Sampson” option moment.
Dnipropetrov I think that is the way you spell it has the largest jewish center and holocaust museum on the planet. Kolomosesky financed it through is privat bank.
It would not make much sense as it seem that southern Ukraine and Georgia or plan b and c which will unfold after the fall of Israel. And it is very possible due to the amount of DU now in Israel which is causing sterility among all in the area and Israel is to blame for most of it. Plus their reactor had some serious leakage problems.
There always seems to be the anonymous who brings up the old anti-semitism canard. Most of those who call themselves jews in Palestine are not semitic. They are khazars from the Black Sea area and in biblical times were called edomites. The ones by the way Jesus referred to as those who call themselves Jews but are not jews.
Most of the Semites in the area are Palestinians who converted to Islam.
The idea that you can only be Jewish if you have a Jewish mother springs from haplogroup Y-dna E1B1B1 and is khazar in orgin.
In fact Hitler and his Irish relatives, Bridgette Hitler carry this same blood grouping and that is why books are being written declaring Hitler was Rothschild. If true and I believe it is, there is not much different going on now than what we see in the Ukraine. There is the attempt to call anti-semitism however Yaroush and his crew have stongly emphasized they are on the jews side in this conflict.
That was the case also in nazi Germany as Goebbels, Hess, Mengele and 150,000 Jewish officers of the Reich were themselves Jewish. Goebbels although maintaining he was catholic, had a Jewish wife named Magda.You might recall that I.G. Farben, IBM, BMW Roth banks and Ford were not bombed during the war. Ford was pro nazi and as you expect was a 32 degree mason.
Does anti-goyism worry anybody these days?
Recently opened FBI files have revealed that Hitler was not in the bunker and escaped to Argentina.
Hitler’s half sister Angela was also Jewish and left the a Jewish kitchen in Vienna to come and live in Hitler’s place as the housekeeper.
Incidentally most of the Windsor family is Khazar also. Charlie Windsor is seen many times with rabbis sporting a yarmulke.
Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands was a member of the SS and the legal contract was transferred to the Netherlands after the war. It is still in effect, the Reich never died.
Mostly all of the above! I hope the Donbass wins over the Nazis in Kiev, and Kolomoisky in the south.
And Putin in my mind is showing himself to be one of the most astute politicians in our common era.
Obama and Blair and their kinsfolk should watch out.
And here am I, one who voted for Obama since I was naive, and wanted anyone but another Bush (like a lot of Democrats!)
Vechnaya Pomyat to all those who have died in this conflict, on either side, especially the civilians caught in the cross fire.
I light a candle for them every time I go to church.
Jim of Olym not ashamed nor afraid to say who and where I am.
Anonymous said…
“Shoigu April 17, 2014
“As for the allegations about the involvement of the Russian special task force in the events in Ukraine the only thing to say to that is that searching for a black cat in a dark room is very difficult, especially if there is no cat there at all. It is particular silly if the cat is clever, bold and polite.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/72840
Shoigu’s way of putting that ROKS.
“Humour:
Moscow calling SBU officer August 2014…”
Class. :D
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Anonymous said…29 August, 2014 21:46
That angle of zio-disruption is not original, or new. Though no doubt you thought it was.
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Anon Mongoose said…29 August, 2014 21:35
“NATO membership? Will need to suspend the NATO Constitution”
Like the Jewish mafia is concerned with legalities… ;)
Forget about law when it comes to ZPC/NWO interests. They make their own, then break them when it serves.
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Katherine said…29 August, 2014 21:4
“is not that different from the belief of the early Protestants that their material well-being was a sign that THEY were the elect of God and that they had a right to all that they possessed and pretty much wahtever they did to achieve material success was thus godly. Both of these self-serving “we are the elect” ideas are totally undemocratic and in humane.”
Most Christian zionists are actually Catholic, not Protestant Christians. They don’t proclaim this via zionist enforced “popular” radio and TV preachers (yet to be exposed boy botherers), but that is reality. Most of the Christian “shabas goys” I’ve personally encountered, as well as most of this non-Jewish 5th element found on Jewish sites have been Catholics. Same on this site. Fascism is Catholic, from the Spanish Inquisition queens to the German nazis to the Latin American death squad scum. The Catholic fascist, and the zionist Jew are buttbros, literally and in every other sense.
The damnable aspects of the Christian Protestantism is mostly those aspects that emulated Catholic intolerance and Jewish capitalist opportunism. The followers of Luther being a good example.
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Novorussia appears fine regardless what form it takes, is there hope for what remains other than chaos and confusion? Are we also looking at a possibility of mutual black-mailing re MH17 in what remains of the junta? Is there any possibility of military taking over (a real junta for a change)as the choc king isn’t going to survive
Auslander,
Thank you for everything you’ve done and continue to do. Sober realism about what is achievable for Novorossiya is needed right now. It does appear that Mariupol’s fall is only a matter of time, but the critical factor in maintaining moral high ground and morale is to avoid inflicting the kind of suffering on Mariupol’s citizens that the Ukies inflicted on Donetsk and Lugansk.
The Ukies claim to have 3,000 fighters in Mariupol to defend the city — the actual number after desertions is probably half that at this hour and there will be no serious Volksturm judging by the pro-Ukraine unity rally only drawing a few hundred (according to the BBC’s correspondent no less!) in a city of 300,000-400,000 (I don’t know how many citizens of Mariupol left after the Nazis rolled in on May 9 and completed their temporary conquest of the city in early June).
Larchmonter @ 29 August, 2014 16:14
I’m just glad I was able to help cheer people up when the ‘DNR/LNR are doomed, Putin has sold them down the river!’ psyop trolls and a few well meaning people were repeating these expressions just 2-3 weeks ago. I for one have felt the NAF would drive the Ukies out of Donbas since the collapse of the first Southern Cauldron. I thought ‘any army that writes off so many men like it’s the USSR in 1941 but lacking the Soviet Union’s reserves or will to fight at that time is doomed’. I haven’t lost that conviction. But even if the bulk of the Ukie army surrenders or is destroyed in the next week in these mini-cauldrons, the reality is Ukraine still has enough territorial troops and leftover weapons to check the lightly manned advances of the NAF. And the Ukies can always recruit new volunteer battalions using the ‘Russia is invading’ propaganda while bringing in more mercs, though as Dmitry Orlov summed up in his SITREP mercs don’t like to die for somebody else’s country they prefer to shell or bomb at a safe distance.
Finally there’s the last desperate cards to play, which Larchmonter alluded to the other day: massive false flags (another Chernobyl? If Monsatan can’t have the cherny zom for their amber waves of GMO grain then it all has to be nuked?) and direct, undeniable NATO boots on the ground. Since we all know the Poles and Lithuanians are already fighting in this war on a ‘voluntary’ basis with probably Poland’s best Iraq and Afghan-veteran special forces represented on the ground.
NATO planning rapid-deployment force of 10,000 troops to counter Russia – report.
Many specifics have yet to be worked out or announced, but planners are reportedly implementing ways to increase the number of soldiers involved even more if necessary. Air and naval units will be integrated into the group, as well as ground troops led by British commanders.
As noted by the Times, the creation of the force comes as a response to Russia’s involvement in the ongoing Ukrainian crisis, with the ultimate goal being to “create a fully functioning, division-sized force for rapid deployment and regular, frequent exercises.” NATO has accused Russia of deploying more than 1,000 troops into Ukraine to bolster separatists in the eastern part of the country.
http://rt.com/news/183828-nato-rapid-deployment-force/
There are many brave, smart, and honest people in US. So why we sit quiet and watch how neocons push us all towards WW3 – to the total destruction of the planet. How long can we let them do it?
We are good at discussions and posting in blogs, but that is all we do.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/08/28/washington-piles-lie-upon-lie-paul-craig-roberts/
and majority believe these lies…
Last thought of the night — Odessa would appear to be a bridge much too far, given how fanatical and desperate the Ukies will be to defend it, considering they already murdered scores of ‘Colorado beetles’ to drive the anti-Maidan movement there underground. Nonetheless, there must be a considerable number of anti-Maidan feeling people who have been biding their time hoping and praying for a chance at some well deserved retribution on the Nazis and especially the Right Sector thugs in the city, as well as any police involved in the Kholomoisky/Avakov joint false flag of May 2nd. However, I cannot see Odessa successfully being conquered unless it is attacked from two fronts — meaning an armored column driving east with the full Army of TransDniestr while that enclave’s borders are guarded by the Russian army and called up reservists.
I don’t doubt for a moment that the NAF already has its ‘spetsnaz’ inside Mariupol undoubtedly being guided to safe houses maintained by those who witnessed the murders on May 9-10 and are itching for payback. If the Azov Battalion’s seaside villa HQ that they showed off to the UK Telegraph reporters three weeks ago has been taken then many of the Azov Nazis inside the city have to be soiling their pants, knowing that their faces including that of Mikael Skillt are widely known to the NAF sabotage and recon group snipers.
If Mariupol falls quickly ie within a week the Ukies won’t have time to set up a defensive line along the logical geographic barrier, the Dnieper. The same line Hitler tried to create in late 1943 as the Wehrmacht fell back from Kursk. But today the Ukies have even less reserves than the Wehrmacht did at that time while holding a huge Eastern Front and fighting the Allies in Italy. And they certainly don’t have armored reserves to attack and cut off NAF breakthroughs in Zaporozhe region or rescue the troops trapped in the cauldrons. The only readily available armored reserve is — you guessed it — NATO member countries led by the Poles. But would Poland be stupid enough to drive their shiny refurbished German-built Leopard tanks into Ukraine and try to set up a defensive line south of Kiev, or even directly engage the NAF with Lithuanians and Latvians in APCs on their flanks? I doubt it.
With regard to Polish behaviour, the way they are acting now is really nothing new. During the 1920s and 30’s, they were more “nazi” than the Germans. I have not looked into Polish history before the 20th century, but post WW1, the country has been a net negative on the planet and a total prostitute of the buggered far right. Poland are the “neo-confederates” of Europe. The centre of such backward rubbish there, their historical legacy, in fact, which naturally make them ideal pawns of ziofascists – like similarly “enlightened” folk do in such “enlightened” places as “Deliverance Land”, USA.
Their support of the nazi junta in the Ukraine, for their ZPC/NWO fascist masters is not unusual, it is what one now expects of Poles.
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@Andrew, Auslander, American Kulak, myself and others wrote about these probable events which are now coming about. Not that we were prescient.
I am puffed up with vanity that I am among the “others” who “predicted” almost the exact course of events from the very beginning of the Circus Maidan. Not of course that I was prescient, but looking back at the history of the region. The very “victory” of Germany on the Eastern Front in 1918 was the first cause of its final demise. People have some difficulties to grasp the fact that the hidden cause of the “Great War” was precisely the splitting of the Russian Empire by severing the “Ukraine” from it and making it a German colony. They repeated the same mistake in the Second. And as the French saying goes: “jamais deux sans trois”, they made it the third time. It may have devastating consequences, the Americans won’t come this time! But let’s not speculate.
In any case I remind that this year marks the 360th anniversary of the Rada of Pereyaslav! I believe in historical cycles!
Auslander,
We shall see. Too early for champagne perhaps, but my bet is that critical mass has been reached. The enemy’s morale has been broken, and serious infighting amongst enemy factions can be expected. There is a reason they pushed so far, so fast. They knew a breaking point was coming. Unfortunately for them, the Novorossiyans didn’t break.
Having said that, Dnipetroprovsk and Kiev are much tougher questions than Odessa to Kharkov. Here is something from a recent interview of Pavel Gubarev talking about how he sees the economy driving people into rebelling:
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People lose their jobs. I have often given Zaporozhye, where closed “Motor Sich”, where there are tens of thousands of employees, where the closed factory “AVTOVAZ-Daewoo”, Assembly shop, where he closed several large corporations, which all sum up to 100 000 jobs. Multiply by the dependency ratio, multiplied by a factor of intermediaries in the sale of goods, services, implementation, and we will see that almost half of the residents of the city of Zaporozhye remained practically without means of subsistence. This is a very anxious and concerned about people. And we expect to create Zaporizhzhya national Republic under the same scenario, as in the Donbass. And of course, it’s my personal opinion, this should be accompanied by a military invasion army Novorossia, because we know how cynically and brazenly operates the Ukrainian government. It is all ready to put in jail on political grounds, all with a different point of view physically eliminated. It is normal for a fascist state, which is now Ukraine.
@29 August, 2014 16:32
“I am quite fussy about spelling and some of the typos in your articles are hard on my brain. :) I would like to offer some corrections – please don’t be offended!:”
I’m English speaking (not my mother’s tongue) poor writing skill. Need to check repeatedly spelling and final drafts with word processor and still tons of typos errors? Russian, Ukrainians are Greek to me. Further with whatever translation make my brain work even harder. At best can make out 70% posted.
Most posters here from many Countries some we may not hear of, trying their best express their thought – like me. Its best leave out typos and learn to live with it. We shares’ common believes and must accept whoever regardless religions, races, classes and languages. This is the true meaning freedom of speech and not those who represent us in governments everywhere.
I may not agree 100% posted, but where else you can find more about the war in Ukraine and EU politics?
Kindest Regards
JC
One issue which may become important about the BRICS,the US is behind a new candidate(supposed to be from a green party out of nowhere)Roussef the actual president of Brazil(left)would be beaten by Marina Silva on the second round(elections will take place in octobre)source ibope veja folha.
Attention,very important Mrs Silva is pro US and wants Brazil out of the BRICS because she says she sees more future for his country in the americas.
One more US plot probably to destroy the BRICS to save their dollar.
@”How to Solve the Putin Problem”
Murder of the Tsars was considered in some Kabbalistic circles as an expiatory sacrifice.
EVERYONE needs to see this speech by Chris Hedges:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfZGy3p844
I think Saker has mentioned this before, this war is an extension between Rome and the Byzantine empire of Russia. It goes way back, Ivan the Terrible used to traitors working for the crown and sit them on kegs of gun powder and blow them up leaving a red mist in the town square, he took all the land from the boyars who were also traitors and tried to take his crown away when young and give it to the boyars but Ivan recovered from his illness and never forgot.
He would invade Lithuania and the Baltics and round up the Jews and tell them to convert or die.
This hostility with Poland and the Baltics goes way back.
The Jesuits for all practical purposes are Jewish controlled as hundreds of them were Jewish.
Alright lets break it down a bit and put on our thinking caps. When we discover that Loyola the founder of the Jesuits was Jewish, John Paul was Jewish, Anacletus was Jewish, Innocente was Jewish and ordered two crusades as well as establishing the spy system called confession, John XXIII was Jewish and called the most depraved who ever sat on the throne, Pope Gregory also Jewish declaring it not murder to kill the excommunicated, Malleus Maleficarum by the Dominican friars Heinrich KRAMER [JEW] and James SPRENGER [JEW].”- Sir l.Gardner “Realm Of The Ring Lords”, (Sauron still has the ring)
King Dagobert of the Merovingians brought the Rennaissance and was replaced by the vatican. His crown was then usurped by the Vatican and given to Pepin the Fat of Herstal. Bertha bigfoot the Jewess sired Charlemagne also and he launched two crusades.
https://sites.google.com/a/jewishjesuits.com/www/biographies-a
Cardinal John O’Connor’s wife just indicated his family was Jewish.
Former pope Benedict was a member of the Hitler youth group.
Much of this begins with Disraeli the first English prime minister who called for an alliance between the “aryan” ruling classes and the khazars or Jews. Many khazars had migrated to Poland since back when Alexander the great was after them and tried to encircle them under allegations of human sacrifice.
So today you are simply seeing the Disraeli policy of world domination among the khazars, the crown heads and the nazis. Remember many khazars were members of the Prussian legions.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/the-gay-father-of-nazism-and-zionism.html
Here is another one I bumped into.
http://www.knowthelies.com/node/6997
In the, aforementioned, ‘agreement’ between the Soviets, theWestern Powers and the Vatican, the ‘ascendancy’ of Hitler’s Daughter to power could not be achieved until the Vatican also brought to powera German Pope, and which was accomplished in 2005 following the death of Pope John Paul I, and which then brought to power the former German Nazi Joseph Ratzinger, and who is now known as Pope Benedict XVI, and who assumed the Leadership of the Roman Churchon April 20, 2005 following his election the previous day. (It goes without mentioning the significance of the present Nazi Pope taking power on the 116th birthday anniversary of Adolph Hitler.)
“Though said to be born on July 17, 1954 in the former Soviet controlled German Democratic Republic (East Germany), Angela Merkel’s Stasi GDR file (currently still held in the Soviet KGB archives) states that she was instead born on April 20, 1954, the birth date of her ‘true’ father, Adolph Hitler who was born on April 20, 1889.
According to these reports, Doctor Clauberg was released by the Soviets after serving only seven years of his sentence in return for turning over to the KGB his hidden files on his Nazi artificial insemination experiments and, more horrifically, the frozen sperm of the former Nazi Dictator, Adolf Hitler.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi6nAYpTUb8
Michael Droy 19:40
Mr Droy :
You sir need to check out a video called “Jacob Cohen documentary” about Dieudonne …just google it…it’ll come up. Start with part one….
It will answer your bewilderment about this site…upeepla
Greetings @Saker and @Everyone!
It seems as if something is really about to break. We haven’t had the opportunity to fully digest the most recent articles and comments but we would like to share our latest summary posts with regards to the seemingly unending article “updates” via the CBC. We realize that for many this is simply preaching to the choir or maybe even beating a dead horse here within the Vineyard, but we are doing our best to “enlighten” our fellow Canuckians and sending a message to the ptb and the MSM, that we are watching, documenting and archiving their evil and deceptive deeds.
Please allow a few moments of your time and consider taking a peek and offering some feedback if possible. In closing, let’s all keep fightin’ the good fight, ’cause it may be the only fight that matters. If we lose this battle and allow the criminals and war-mongers to run rough shot over us, we will be the ones who lose, no matter where we reside or that our inner beliefs may be.
Thanks again to you Saker for providing this platform of communication and sharing and to everyone that stops by and offers their own thoughts, opinions and observations. Peace and luv to one and all… :)
Without further adieu, here is yesterdays trifecta with a bonus pick for your consideration. Please feel free to scrutinize, nit pick, use and abuse as you see fit. If you are from the Nation formerly know as Canada, please consider sharing the info with your contacts and MP’s:
#CBC Propaganda Challenge 3: #Harper vs #cdnpoli vs #Ukraine vs #Russia vs #NATO
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/cbc-propaganda-challenge-3-harper-vs-cdnpoli-vs-ukraine-vs-russia-vs-nato/
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#PnPCBC vs #CBC Propaganda Challenge: #Harper vs #cdnpoli vs #Ukraine vs #Russia vs #NATO
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/pnpcbc-vs-cbc-propaganda-challenge-harper-vs-cdnpoli-vs-ukraine-vs-russia-vs-nato/
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@CBCNews Propaganda Challenge 2: #Harper vs #cdnpoli vs #Ukraine vs #Russia vs #NATO vs #CBC
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/cbcnews-propaganda-challenge-2-harper-vs-cdnpoli-vs-ukraine-vs-russia-vs-nato-vs-cbc/
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@CBCNews Propaganda Challenge: #Harper vs #cdnpoli vs #Ukraine vs #Russia
https://dumpharper.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/cbcnews-propaganda-challenge-harper-vs-cdnpoli-vs-ukraine-vs-russia/
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DumpHarper!
Saker, have you heard of the American that fought with the Nazis and was killed recently? An Irish journalist did some digging and came up with the man’s Banderist roots.
Putin, Russia and NovoRosssiya need to keep pushing a humane out for the Ukrainian conscripts who are being forced to fight and sent to their death by the corrupt evil junta scum in Kiev.
Perhaps Donbass and the right sector types can come to some gentlemam’s agreement.. ridding ukraine of the stooge leadership in exchange for some type of detente?
The sanctions against Russia have a side effect that is hardly mentioned: they delay all Western exports towards Russia.
According to the accompanying (Dutch) article there is now a waiting time of eight weeks at the Dutch customs for exports towards Russia. They need to approve each export with a declaration that it can not be used for military purposes and as they were not equipped for that they have built an enormous backlog.
http://www.gelderlander.nl/algemeen/economie/douane-kan-werk-amper-aan-door-sancties-tegen-rusland-1.4508062
Some documentation in Dutch (use your Google translate…). The links refer to pages from where you can download the pdf’s that contain the actual content.
A report from the minister to parliament regarding the MH17 investigation and retrieval of bodies:
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten-en-publicaties/kamerstukken/2014/08/14/stand-van-zaken-vliegramp-mh17.html
Answers of the minister to questions from parliament regarding MH17.
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten-en-publicaties/kamerstukken/2014/08/29/lijst-van-vragen-verslag-buitengewone-raad-buitenlandse-zaken-mh17.html
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@ Dutch // 29 August, 2014 19:05
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We, the Dutch and the rest of Europe, have no say in that whatsoever, because the US is brutally occupying Europe. As an example: see the US Nuclear Bombs at Volker in the Netherlands that we can’t get rid of and the
“America Service Members Protection Act 2002” that expresses the believes of the USA that politics has priority over law (the law of all the sovereign countries in the world(!), and deepens the US refusal to cooperate with the ICC and it gives authority to the executive branch to “use all necessary means” to “free members of the armed forces of the United States ‘detained’ by the ICC.”
So, the NATO is a over-governmental institute and therefor most of the reactions here are too optimistic. Our enemy; The Money and the NAVO as there army, is unscrupulous and will use any tool to achieve it’s goal, i.e. World Domination. And they will succeed!