These Winter Olympics were a disgrace, being turned into a anti-Russian propaganda instrument, the intention being to humiliate Russia and subvert Putins election chances. It failed. I was so sickened by the attitude of the Olympic organizers that I did not even watch the Olympics, with the exception of watching Russian curlers and ice skaters on the Internet.
There is no question that at least one Russian participant was given dope without realizing it, the husband of Anastasia Bryzgalova, who became a beauty sensation at the Olympics. This unexpected publicity had to be overturned, and it was, when her husband was framed. During the Olympics we also had demonstrations in Moscow, organized by NGO’s, which failed pathetically.
As I have written before, it is time for Russia, China and others to introduce the Euro-Asian Games, open to all. The current Olympics Games have lost their reason to exist, being turned into a political instrument.
I think both were framed. I am reposting this comment from Moveable feast cafe if it is ok.
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There is something very fishy about the Anti Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs) pinned on the Russian curler and Russian bobsledder during the final week of the Peyongchang Winter Olympics.
It makes no logical sense that an athlete would do a one-time consumption of a chemical that is of no value in circumstances where it is almost certain to be detected with huge negative consequences.
That is precisely the situation. The Russian Mixed Curling bronze medal winner, Alexander Krushelnitsky, had to give up his medal, plus that of his partner wife, because traces of meldonium were found in his urine sample. He had previously tested clean.
International curlers were astounded at the news and bemused at the idea of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) for curling. The skip of the Danish curling team said: I think most people will laugh and ask, ‘what could you possibly need doping for?
Krushelnitsky strongly denies taking banned drugs: I am categorically opposed to doping …. never, at any time that I have been involved in sport, have I ever used prohibited substances.
Similar curious circumstances apply in the second ADRV. Russian bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva had numerous negative (clean) tests before she was tested positive for banned trimetazidine. Bobsledding is another sport which requires physical and mental skill but not physical endurance.
In the February 25 IOC meeting ( https://twitter.com/iocmedia/status/967551771907317760 ) to close the Peyongchang Winter Games, the head of the IOC Implementation Group, Nicole Hoevertz, said the Russian athletes had been tested “more than any other athletes”. She and her group were convinced that the 168 member Russian athletic team was clean. At about 35:00 in the video, she says the two Russian doping violations were “very peculiar.”
Hoevertz introduced the Director of the IOC Medical and Scientific Commission, Dr. Bludgett, to provide more detail. He suggested that meldonium would not be of benefit in curling. He then went further and suggested the ADRV regarding trimetazidine may be in error. He said trimetazidine “……is a substance where there is a parent compound which is a common headache migraine treatment available particularly in China and Japan and if that is found then it is not considered an ADRV. And if there is a very low level, as there was in this case, that is a possibility. “
Sergeeva denies ever taking banned drugs and even went on social media with a T-shirt declaring her commitment to clean sport.
Unfortunately, western media will not investigate this possibility. Western media cannot even accurately report on events like the IOC meeting yesterday.
The fact that the head of the IOC Implementation Group warmly praised the Russian participation at the Peyongchang Olympics is not mentioned in western media.
The fact that Dr. Bludgett raised questions about the accuracy of the ADRVs against Russia is not mentioned in reports from NY Times, the UK Guardian or Inside the Games.
Instead, the writer at Inside the Games once again exaggerated the voice of critics of Russia as he downplayed the voices of international athletes who want to put the doping scandal behind and move forward.
Western media have reported deceptively that the Russian athletes have “admitted” to the violations. In fact, both Russian athletes strongly deny taking banned drugs.
Western media bias is also shown in the focus on alleged Russian doping and minimization or ignoring of other possible violations.
For example the story about the Norwegian cross-country ski team and their use of banned asthmatic medications. They get around the restrictions by having their doctor claim that most of their athletes are asthmatic.
What has struck me throughout this is how important it appears to be that the Russian flag not be displayed.
Remember back in 2016, at the Paralympic Games, and one protesting coach dared to parade in the Opening Ceremonies displaying a Russian flag? All Heck broke loose over that. As a rational human being, it didn’t seem like such a big deal, but in the media it was the crime of the century and the offender was duly pilloried and punished.
Now, in 2018, the Russian Olympic Committee came up with a $15 million extortion payment believing that was what was required to have their figure skating champion carry the Russian flag in the Closing Ceremonies. The IOC then said no, citing these two incidents as the reason.
Thus, while the IOC was on one hand negotiating with the ROC about ‘reinstatement’, two very suspicious incidents of ‘doping’ were in my mind created. Which the IOC then used to deny the very site of the Russian flag in the Closing Ceremonies.
All in all, the way this whole situation of Russian athletes at the Olympics was handled was very strange. Here’s what would have been straight forward. WADA and the IOC denies RADA the ability to test athletes due to past alledged abuses. Which should simply mean that WADA takes over that job. Most international athletes are regularly tested anyways these days. Track and Field, sking, cross-country sking, I’d imagine this is true in all of these sports. .
Thus, you had a lot of athletes who were already known to be, well I won’t say clean, but I will say staying within the rules and passing the tests. And the allegations regarding Sochi did not involved some secret way of passing the tests, but that supposedly that the tests were tampered with. Thus, there is no reason to doubt the tests themselves.
Thus, the standard position that only ‘clean’ athletes can attend the Olympics would have been a fairly simple one.
Yet, the IOC went out of its way to ban the Russian uniforms, the Russian anthems, and the Russian flags.
On top of which some very strange and apparently evidence-free decisions to ban various medal favorites from Russia from competing at all.
All of this looks much more like a propaganda campaign against Russia. Lets make sure Russia doesn’t win many medals. And lets make sure we don’t see the Russian flag or hear the Russian anthem.
The most famous case of using the Olympics to play politics was of course Germany in 1936. Hitler wanted to use the games to show the superiority of Germans and his ideas of a master race. This appears to be very similar, but opposite in form. Its not that one country is to appear as superior (although it did show the superiority of asthmatics from Norway), but instead we don’t want the designated enemy to show at all positively in these Games.
And thus the rather strange and constant insistence that the greatest evil in the Olympic movement is somehow the appearance of a Russian flag.
First, thanks to Inessa for the video and sub-titled translation. She is a marvel, too. Does great work at FortRuss.
Second, in the spirit of competition, the Russians competed and proved two great things, in the gold medal final hockey game and in figure skating with the 15-year old overcoming the four-hour destruction of her last practice session by the anti-doping forces who stole her practice time to force a urine and blood test. (This alone proves the utter immoral and unethical WADA and IOC war against the Russian athletes.)
But justice was served and Russia has those two gold medals in extraordinary triumphs.
Under the worst situation for athletes to perform, the Russians proved their greatness.
In all matters of economics, politics, sports, you name it, the United States is loath to compete on a fair, level playing field. They have lost their belief in fair play and faith in their own abilities. They also hold onto the hegemonic edge and influence to bend or break all rules.
It was disgusting what happened to the Russian team. However, they won anyway, though over 900 athletes were excluded from a chance at the South Korean games.
If having one practice session interupted by a drug test would destroy someone’s chances in the Olympics, then they were not a quality Olympic contender in the first place.
Two reasons. One, these people work for years on these events. The work that was done to win the gold medal was all done months and years ago. If someone is an Olympic champion, that is true because they’ve put in the work long before they ever took a plane flight to Korea.
Second, any such high-level competition is a set of head-games. Any competitor is looking for any way to get into the head of an opponent, thus any true Olympic champion has a required skill in staying focused and doing what they came there to do. Anyone who is so easily disrupted that having drug testers show up at a practice is not a champion and probably never even wins the national competition to get to the Olympics.
You are entitled to your opinion, as ignorant as you have constructed.
You obviously don’t know what a 15-year old athlete is psychologically.
You don’t know how important the final practice is to a precision skillset like figure skating.
Dear Mats,
I believe you are unkind to Anonymous. He is quite correct in what he has stated. Athletes practise for years to reach their personal level of excellence.
Again though, a 15 year old girl would appear to be an easy target, but she proved to be otherwise, and perhaps she was aware of how she was being abused which simply increased her determination to win. I really do not know as I haven’t asked her.
But, what these actions are by the testers is a show of their ethics and beliefs in that they are more important than the athletes. Please think about that for a moment. These bureaucrats who live off the efforts of others are simply pushing their own agenda.
when Putin is speaking about the timing of the ban of Russia from the Olympics – and the Russian Presidential elections – all the people listening to him were Russians, so it seemed to me – and they listen with great acceptance of his words and as though they know he truly speaks for them –
How different here in the West – our leaders lie to us continually – they’re all Mafioso’s – how can we change this?
That’s what always strikes me about Putin’s long question and answer sessions.
You never see an American or western politician do anything like that. And if you watch or hear about the ‘debate preparations’ or the preparations for an American politician’s press conferences, you can easily see why.
They spend a great deal of time preparing for possible questions that might be asked and memorizing a response that they can deliver on cue. Along with hand-gestures and possible one-liners to use. And we know that now, unlike in the past, the questions at a American presidential press conference are pre-cleared in advance and that only a controlled group of people can ask questions. We know that during the debates that CNN was feeding questions to one of the candidates (Crooked Clinton of course).
Putin can do his long question and answer sessions because he appears to be telling the truth. He doesn’t have to memorize the answers to possible questions, and the possible questions don’t need to be so rigorously controlled and the list of possible questioners so culled and restricted. No American politician can do this because they all have to practice their lies in advance, and any long exposure or conversation is more likely to reveal that they are lying.
Ann, you asked how we can change this… I don’t see that it’s possible, although I’m not any kind of expert in geopolitics. I think the US has to collapse, or make a fatal mistake that results in its military destruction and occupation. The the US elites in power, who I think are the banking families, will never, ever, give up their stranglehold on the looting operation that they are running, to remove all wealth from US Americans, and to remove all wealth from the rest of the world. They will not stop until the breathing is stopped, or until their freedom is removed. That will probably require a physical occupation of the US and a manhunt for these criminals, or a financial collapse could also possibly do it. Personally, I hope for the military mistake and occupation of the US and the resultant manhunt and journey to justice for these evil animals who now run the US government and military.
Well, the only contest I watched were the two hockey matches, Russia vs. USA and the finals, Russia-Germany, and I enjoyed both, the first because of utmost superiority of Russian team and humiliating defeat of US, and the second because it was really an outstanding game by both participants. First class hockey. The end score was also to my taste.
Same here, and I’m not even remotely interested in hockey, despite being Canadian. But the final game was a hard fought cliff-hanger, and could have gone either way. Fortunately it went the right way. ;-)
I have said from the beginning that these doctored drug screens were beneficial to the USG in 2 ways. One was the propaganda value and 2 was removing as much competition as possible to give the US athletes a better chance of placing.
The fact is, for any US athletes that won a medal, unless they competed against Russia, they will never be able to claim they are the best.
I went looking in Youtube for a resumeé with highlights of the match between Russia and the US and could not find it! Strange no? Could anybody in this forum post this? BTW I am not Russian of course but I am happy that Russia became champion and even happier that Russia beat the US! LOL!!
I ask because the IOC has gotten much tighter and more legalistic in banning all videos being posted outside of their ‘broadcast partners’ who fork over millions for the rights. I noticed that as of the Rio Games, it was becoming harder in general to find Olympic even videos online in general. The IOC has probably become more more aggressive at issuing take-down notices to Google-Youtube whenever any Olympic content is posted.
That could it be, on the other hand it was no problem to find highlights from the final match against Germany, but the one against the US that I was looking for (as for today) was missing.
I spent over an hour trying to find a video with Russia vs USA match using different search engines and found nothing. I searched with Russia and OAR. You can find highlights from other hockey matches from Olympics but not this one.
The Anglo deep-state is a perfidious Albion on steroids. They fight dirty: they’ll punch you while the referee explains the rules, they’ll throw sand in your face to blind you, they’ll strike you in the back during a truce, and take your daughter hostage when they are defeated. Russia is playing a fair game against a criminally bad loser.
In looking into the crystal ball of the future – I see a President of the WADA soon to step down and being replaced by a more sensible person, within a year at the most.
Beside that my heart smiled when I heard that the Germans got beaten by Russia – the team without a country, HaHaHa good joke ! There is no low they won’t go, because they have lost all measure.
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These Winter Olympics were a disgrace, being turned into a anti-Russian propaganda instrument, the intention being to humiliate Russia and subvert Putins election chances. It failed. I was so sickened by the attitude of the Olympic organizers that I did not even watch the Olympics, with the exception of watching Russian curlers and ice skaters on the Internet.
There is no question that at least one Russian participant was given dope without realizing it, the husband of Anastasia Bryzgalova, who became a beauty sensation at the Olympics. This unexpected publicity had to be overturned, and it was, when her husband was framed. During the Olympics we also had demonstrations in Moscow, organized by NGO’s, which failed pathetically.
As I have written before, it is time for Russia, China and others to introduce the Euro-Asian Games, open to all. The current Olympics Games have lost their reason to exist, being turned into a political instrument.
I think both were framed. I am reposting this comment from Moveable feast cafe if it is ok.
….
There is something very fishy about the Anti Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs) pinned on the Russian curler and Russian bobsledder during the final week of the Peyongchang Winter Olympics.
It makes no logical sense that an athlete would do a one-time consumption of a chemical that is of no value in circumstances where it is almost certain to be detected with huge negative consequences.
That is precisely the situation. The Russian Mixed Curling bronze medal winner, Alexander Krushelnitsky, had to give up his medal, plus that of his partner wife, because traces of meldonium were found in his urine sample. He had previously tested clean.
International curlers were astounded at the news and bemused at the idea of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs) for curling. The skip of the Danish curling team said: I think most people will laugh and ask, ‘what could you possibly need doping for?
Krushelnitsky strongly denies taking banned drugs: I am categorically opposed to doping …. never, at any time that I have been involved in sport, have I ever used prohibited substances.
Similar curious circumstances apply in the second ADRV. Russian bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva had numerous negative (clean) tests before she was tested positive for banned trimetazidine. Bobsledding is another sport which requires physical and mental skill but not physical endurance.
In the February 25 IOC meeting ( https://twitter.com/iocmedia/status/967551771907317760 ) to close the Peyongchang Winter Games, the head of the IOC Implementation Group, Nicole Hoevertz, said the Russian athletes had been tested “more than any other athletes”. She and her group were convinced that the 168 member Russian athletic team was clean. At about 35:00 in the video, she says the two Russian doping violations were “very peculiar.”
Hoevertz introduced the Director of the IOC Medical and Scientific Commission, Dr. Bludgett, to provide more detail. He suggested that meldonium would not be of benefit in curling. He then went further and suggested the ADRV regarding trimetazidine may be in error. He said trimetazidine “……is a substance where there is a parent compound which is a common headache migraine treatment available particularly in China and Japan and if that is found then it is not considered an ADRV. And if there is a very low level, as there was in this case, that is a possibility. “
Sergeeva denies ever taking banned drugs and even went on social media with a T-shirt declaring her commitment to clean sport.
Unfortunately, western media will not investigate this possibility. Western media cannot even accurately report on events like the IOC meeting yesterday.
The fact that the head of the IOC Implementation Group warmly praised the Russian participation at the Peyongchang Olympics is not mentioned in western media.
The fact that Dr. Bludgett raised questions about the accuracy of the ADRVs against Russia is not mentioned in reports from NY Times, the UK Guardian or Inside the Games.
Instead, the writer at Inside the Games once again exaggerated the voice of critics of Russia as he downplayed the voices of international athletes who want to put the doping scandal behind and move forward.
Western media have reported deceptively that the Russian athletes have “admitted” to the violations. In fact, both Russian athletes strongly deny taking banned drugs.
Western media bias is also shown in the focus on alleged Russian doping and minimization or ignoring of other possible violations.
For example the story about the Norwegian cross-country ski team and their use of banned asthmatic medications. They get around the restrictions by having their doctor claim that most of their athletes are asthmatic.
More and links at
http://theduran.com/sabotaging-russia-olympics/
What has struck me throughout this is how important it appears to be that the Russian flag not be displayed.
Remember back in 2016, at the Paralympic Games, and one protesting coach dared to parade in the Opening Ceremonies displaying a Russian flag? All Heck broke loose over that. As a rational human being, it didn’t seem like such a big deal, but in the media it was the crime of the century and the offender was duly pilloried and punished.
Now, in 2018, the Russian Olympic Committee came up with a $15 million extortion payment believing that was what was required to have their figure skating champion carry the Russian flag in the Closing Ceremonies. The IOC then said no, citing these two incidents as the reason.
Thus, while the IOC was on one hand negotiating with the ROC about ‘reinstatement’, two very suspicious incidents of ‘doping’ were in my mind created. Which the IOC then used to deny the very site of the Russian flag in the Closing Ceremonies.
All in all, the way this whole situation of Russian athletes at the Olympics was handled was very strange. Here’s what would have been straight forward. WADA and the IOC denies RADA the ability to test athletes due to past alledged abuses. Which should simply mean that WADA takes over that job. Most international athletes are regularly tested anyways these days. Track and Field, sking, cross-country sking, I’d imagine this is true in all of these sports. .
Thus, you had a lot of athletes who were already known to be, well I won’t say clean, but I will say staying within the rules and passing the tests. And the allegations regarding Sochi did not involved some secret way of passing the tests, but that supposedly that the tests were tampered with. Thus, there is no reason to doubt the tests themselves.
Thus, the standard position that only ‘clean’ athletes can attend the Olympics would have been a fairly simple one.
Yet, the IOC went out of its way to ban the Russian uniforms, the Russian anthems, and the Russian flags.
On top of which some very strange and apparently evidence-free decisions to ban various medal favorites from Russia from competing at all.
All of this looks much more like a propaganda campaign against Russia. Lets make sure Russia doesn’t win many medals. And lets make sure we don’t see the Russian flag or hear the Russian anthem.
The most famous case of using the Olympics to play politics was of course Germany in 1936. Hitler wanted to use the games to show the superiority of Germans and his ideas of a master race. This appears to be very similar, but opposite in form. Its not that one country is to appear as superior (although it did show the superiority of asthmatics from Norway), but instead we don’t want the designated enemy to show at all positively in these Games.
And thus the rather strange and constant insistence that the greatest evil in the Olympic movement is somehow the appearance of a Russian flag.
First, thanks to Inessa for the video and sub-titled translation. She is a marvel, too. Does great work at FortRuss.
Second, in the spirit of competition, the Russians competed and proved two great things, in the gold medal final hockey game and in figure skating with the 15-year old overcoming the four-hour destruction of her last practice session by the anti-doping forces who stole her practice time to force a urine and blood test. (This alone proves the utter immoral and unethical WADA and IOC war against the Russian athletes.)
But justice was served and Russia has those two gold medals in extraordinary triumphs.
Under the worst situation for athletes to perform, the Russians proved their greatness.
In all matters of economics, politics, sports, you name it, the United States is loath to compete on a fair, level playing field. They have lost their belief in fair play and faith in their own abilities. They also hold onto the hegemonic edge and influence to bend or break all rules.
It was disgusting what happened to the Russian team. However, they won anyway, though over 900 athletes were excluded from a chance at the South Korean games.
If having one practice session interupted by a drug test would destroy someone’s chances in the Olympics, then they were not a quality Olympic contender in the first place.
Two reasons. One, these people work for years on these events. The work that was done to win the gold medal was all done months and years ago. If someone is an Olympic champion, that is true because they’ve put in the work long before they ever took a plane flight to Korea.
Second, any such high-level competition is a set of head-games. Any competitor is looking for any way to get into the head of an opponent, thus any true Olympic champion has a required skill in staying focused and doing what they came there to do. Anyone who is so easily disrupted that having drug testers show up at a practice is not a champion and probably never even wins the national competition to get to the Olympics.
You are entitled to your opinion, as ignorant as you have constructed.
You obviously don’t know what a 15-year old athlete is psychologically.
You don’t know how important the final practice is to a precision skillset like figure skating.
Aside from your remark, get a name.
No personal attacks. Mod
Dear Mats,
I believe you are unkind to Anonymous. He is quite correct in what he has stated. Athletes practise for years to reach their personal level of excellence.
Again though, a 15 year old girl would appear to be an easy target, but she proved to be otherwise, and perhaps she was aware of how she was being abused which simply increased her determination to win. I really do not know as I haven’t asked her.
But, what these actions are by the testers is a show of their ethics and beliefs in that they are more important than the athletes. Please think about that for a moment. These bureaucrats who live off the efforts of others are simply pushing their own agenda.
when Putin is speaking about the timing of the ban of Russia from the Olympics – and the Russian Presidential elections – all the people listening to him were Russians, so it seemed to me – and they listen with great acceptance of his words and as though they know he truly speaks for them –
How different here in the West – our leaders lie to us continually – they’re all Mafioso’s – how can we change this?
That’s what always strikes me about Putin’s long question and answer sessions.
You never see an American or western politician do anything like that. And if you watch or hear about the ‘debate preparations’ or the preparations for an American politician’s press conferences, you can easily see why.
They spend a great deal of time preparing for possible questions that might be asked and memorizing a response that they can deliver on cue. Along with hand-gestures and possible one-liners to use. And we know that now, unlike in the past, the questions at a American presidential press conference are pre-cleared in advance and that only a controlled group of people can ask questions. We know that during the debates that CNN was feeding questions to one of the candidates (Crooked Clinton of course).
Putin can do his long question and answer sessions because he appears to be telling the truth. He doesn’t have to memorize the answers to possible questions, and the possible questions don’t need to be so rigorously controlled and the list of possible questioners so culled and restricted. No American politician can do this because they all have to practice their lies in advance, and any long exposure or conversation is more likely to reveal that they are lying.
Ann, you asked how we can change this… I don’t see that it’s possible, although I’m not any kind of expert in geopolitics. I think the US has to collapse, or make a fatal mistake that results in its military destruction and occupation. The the US elites in power, who I think are the banking families, will never, ever, give up their stranglehold on the looting operation that they are running, to remove all wealth from US Americans, and to remove all wealth from the rest of the world. They will not stop until the breathing is stopped, or until their freedom is removed. That will probably require a physical occupation of the US and a manhunt for these criminals, or a financial collapse could also possibly do it. Personally, I hope for the military mistake and occupation of the US and the resultant manhunt and journey to justice for these evil animals who now run the US government and military.
Well, the only contest I watched were the two hockey matches, Russia vs. USA and the finals, Russia-Germany, and I enjoyed both, the first because of utmost superiority of Russian team and humiliating defeat of US, and the second because it was really an outstanding game by both participants. First class hockey. The end score was also to my taste.
Same here, and I’m not even remotely interested in hockey, despite being Canadian. But the final game was a hard fought cliff-hanger, and could have gone either way. Fortunately it went the right way. ;-)
I have said from the beginning that these doctored drug screens were beneficial to the USG in 2 ways. One was the propaganda value and 2 was removing as much competition as possible to give the US athletes a better chance of placing.
The fact is, for any US athletes that won a medal, unless they competed against Russia, they will never be able to claim they are the best.
I went looking in Youtube for a resumeé with highlights of the match between Russia and the US and could not find it! Strange no? Could anybody in this forum post this? BTW I am not Russian of course but I am happy that Russia became champion and even happier that Russia beat the US! LOL!!
Is the same true for other Olympic videos?
I ask because the IOC has gotten much tighter and more legalistic in banning all videos being posted outside of their ‘broadcast partners’ who fork over millions for the rights. I noticed that as of the Rio Games, it was becoming harder in general to find Olympic even videos online in general. The IOC has probably become more more aggressive at issuing take-down notices to Google-Youtube whenever any Olympic content is posted.
That could it be, on the other hand it was no problem to find highlights from the final match against Germany, but the one against the US that I was looking for (as for today) was missing.
I spent over an hour trying to find a video with Russia vs USA match using different search engines and found nothing. I searched with Russia and OAR. You can find highlights from other hockey matches from Olympics but not this one.
The Anglo deep-state is a perfidious Albion on steroids. They fight dirty: they’ll punch you while the referee explains the rules, they’ll throw sand in your face to blind you, they’ll strike you in the back during a truce, and take your daughter hostage when they are defeated. Russia is playing a fair game against a criminally bad loser.
In looking into the crystal ball of the future – I see a President of the WADA soon to step down and being replaced by a more sensible person, within a year at the most.
Beside that my heart smiled when I heard that the Germans got beaten by Russia – the team without a country, HaHaHa good joke ! There is no low they won’t go, because they have lost all measure.
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