Boris Nemtsov has been shot dead in Moscow. He was one of the most charismatic leaders of the “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition in Russia (please understand that in the Russian context “liberal” and “democratic” means pro-US or even CIA-run, while “non-system” means too small to even get a single deputy in the Duma). He was shot just a few days before the announced demonstration of the very same “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition scheduled for March 1st.
Nemtsov and Yushchenko
As I have already explained many times on this blog, the “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” opposition in Russia has a popular support somewhere in the range of 5% (max). In other words, it is politically *dead* (for a detailed explanation, please read “From Napoleon to Adolf Hitler to Conchita Wurst“). In the hopes of getting a higher number of people to the streets the “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system”opposition allied itself with the ultra-nationalists (usually useful idiots for the CIA) and the homosexual activists (also useful idiots for the CIA). Apparently, this was not enough.
And now, in *perfect* timing, Nemtsov is murdered.
We all know the reaction of the AngloZionists and their propaganda machine. It will be exactly the same as for MH-17: Putin the Murderer!!! Democracy Shot!! Freedom Killed!! etc. etc. etc. etc.
There is no doubt in my mind at all that either this is a fantastically unlikely but always possible case of really bad luck for Putin and Nemtsov was shot by some nutcase or mugged, or this was a absolutely prototypical western false flag: you take a spent politician who has no credibility left with anyone with an IQ over 70, and you turn him into an instant “martyr for freedom, democracy, human right and civilization”.
By the way if, as I believe, this is a false flag, I expect it to be a stunning success in the West and a total flop in Russia: by now, Russians already can smell that kind of setup a mile away and after MH-17 everybody was expecting a false flag. So, if anything, it will only increase the hostility of Russians towards the West and rally them around Putin. In the Empire, however, this will be huge, better than Politkovskaya or Litvinenko combined. A “Nemtsov” prize will be created, a Nemtov statue will be place somewhere (in Warsaw?), the US Congress will pass a “Nemtsov law” and the usual combo package of “democratic hagiography” will be whipped-up.
What worries me most is that the Russian security services did not see this one coming and let it happen. This is a major failure for the FSB which will now have a lot at stake to find out who did it. I expect them to find a fall-guy, a patsy, who will have no provable contacts with any western services and who, ideally, might even have some contacts with the Russian services (like Andrei Lugovoi).
As for the “liberal” or “democratic” “non-system” – it will probably re-brand the upcoming protests as a “tribute to Nemtsov” thereby getting more people into the streets.
There are folks in Langley tonight who got a promotion.
The Saker
For those who can read Russian: who killed Nemtsov
http://pravosudija.net/article/zhertvy-naivnosti
The above Russian link from Google translate
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February 10 “interlocutor” came out with a fatal title. “Boris Nemtsov: I’m afraid that Putin would kill me.” http://sobesednik.ru/politika/20150210-boris-nemcov-boyus-togo-chto-putin-menya-ubet
These chances do not miss, especially in the current environment. In Kiev was quickly organized a meeting between Aslan Alkhanov and a close associate of the leader of the “right sector” Dmitry Yarosh, specializing in these matters. As the organizer of the explosion on the march supporters Maidan in Kharkov Alexander Kazuno, Yarosh associate associated with CANVAS.
Is that Kazuno is still working on the US government-funded NGOs, overthrew Slobodan Milosevic’s successor organization “Otpor!”, While people Yarosh worked there before moved to the “right quadrant.”
Aslan Alkhanov arrived in Moscow in the middle of the week. Demonstrative murder occurred near the Kremlin in a few days. Companion Boris Nemtsov, by a strange coincidence native of Kiev, is not affected.
As a result, immediately launched our pro-American media campaign, conferring on Putin’s fault for he created an atmosphere of intolerance that led to the assassination of the leader of the opposition, the government needs to be protected, but the authorities are at a loss.
They did not want to and still do not want to see the obvious. February 10 Boris Nemtsov signed his death warrant, and his murder was only a matter of a short time. According to my sources, the Kiev meeting Alkhanov SVR was recorded. His arrival in Moscow – fixed FSB.
However, tracing Alkhanov no public announcements, while the US track and does ignored. The victim of this murder can apply for Darwin Award – but the behavior Nemtsov at least understandable: he would not have thought that his bobble cynically take advantage of his American friends.
Are our security services as naive?
Site PRAVOSUDIYA.NET: http://pravosudija.net/article/zhertvy-naivnosti
Yes, according to Sobesednik, on 10 February Nemtsov shared in an interview that his mother is worried about him being killed, and he is worried a little bit himself (for being a critic, that is)
But what on hell is that pravdasudia site? A freaking spoof news circus? Why is that FSB and SVR reporting to that lady ballet dancing truck driver? Who’s those persons, Alexander Kazuno, Aslan Alkhanov, and what’s CANVAS?
—(Must be all working for Mossad I gather, as well as Darwin ? )
Just translated the Russian site from the commenter above. The language sounds strange because that’s how Google translate does Russian. Some of it will make sense to some people here.
A clue: Mark Sleboda notes that he is “being bombarded by Google for the anti-govt pro-Kiev #МаршВеснa” in Moscow on Sunday and rhetorically asks “WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THIS?!?”
This is a sign that the US State Department is preparing for genocide and mass murder. I noticed a similar ad and spam campaign on Google in late February, early March of 2011. As soon as I wrote #Libya on the Google search line, Google would display an ad for a US criminal outfit called “Human Rights First”. The ad itself was a hoax upon a hoax. Not only were there no “Gaddafi crimes” or proof of them, but there was not even the propaganda the criminals were advertising. The page advertised (http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/libya) never contained any proof or even serious claims for anything. It was just just an empty placeholder for content yet to be announced.
The real content was in the two lines on the Google results page: “Qaddafi’s Crimes – Qaddafi is committing atrocities. Read about his crimes in Libya.” The link was not even meant to be clicked. This was a subliminal message. It would be repeated over and over until you were ready to believe it. (Most people were, I was not.)
(Screenshot from Google search results page saved in April 2011.)
Petri Krohn
Thanks for that info about the setting up of the anti-Qaddafi propaganda. I discovered a similar pre-set-up around the South Ossetia war in 2008 on youtube. There were several propaganda accounts set up 1-2 weeks before the fireworks started on 8 Aug, 2008. These all carried propaganda videos supporting the Georgian aggression. These sat empty till the 8th, and then started adding propaganda videos to their accounts. One of these also heavily promoted Israel and Israeli support for the Georgian war criminals. Obviously that account was set up by the Israelis. My suspicion is all of the youtube accounts were the work of Israel. I noted all of this info on a website of mine at that time. Within a couple of days, that youtube account with the Israeli promotions had the Israeli promotions removed. Obviously, one of the web sayanim who monitored my web site alerted who ever ran the youtube site and they then removed all the Israel related material.
An even better question to ask is “why does the Russian government not respond harshly and stop it”.If there was even a “whiff” in the air that a foreign government was sponsoring dissidents and plotting violence in Washington.The FBI and CIA would be rounding them up.And the boys at “Gitmo” would have mass numbers of new company.Its ridiculous that nothing is being done to stop these traitors in Russia.A massive purge should have come down months ago.The lesson of Ukraine to every world leader,is to never ,ever,allow a situation to slip out of control.And never,ever,allow Western agencies to subvert your people.Those that didn’t get that message,or those overlooking it.Don’t need to be in office,and must be replaced themselves.
Saker,
your absolute claim in the headline “FALSE FLAG IN MOSCOW!” will make you look pretty stupid in case it turns out the ex-lover theory is right.
No matter how it will turn out, you look like a rabid Putin fan boy by making stark assertions you don’t have any evidence for. You should have called it “FALSE FLAG IN MOSCOW?” instead.
I thought the ultra-nationalists were conservative Orthodox. How could they ally themselves with the liberals and the gays ?
There are 2 types of “ultra-nationalists”.There are those you speak of.And there are the other kind,where the term “ultra-nationalist” is only a polite term for “neo-nazi”.The Russian version of the Ukrainian “Right Sector”.
So the Russians have those cases too ? Luckily for me you said it, because I shudder to think what would have happened if I had said it.
The Bad Guys are really rattled to resort to a stunt like this. This does not come from a position of strength. This is an expression of a state of duress. Impulsive. A power wrong-footed and not used to it. They over-reach themselves. Good. Very good. They will fight among themselves over this. Good. Some will split away. Maybe attack or betray the other. Go ahead. Suck up all the oxygen. Knock yourselves out trying to spin this but its just more been there done that. The law of diminishing returns has set in. What next? A Reichstag fire?
Nemtsev murder was a brazen attack in close proximity of Cremlin walls. Wow!
Nemtsev cold facts layed down (no sides taken):
– He did make a fortune in transition times (thus potential connections with shady business partners).
– Got relatively few votes in last elections. Outside of system, but did have significant vocal role in the opposition, & louded by west (as Putin critic). YATS & gang did not have many votes either…
– Murdered ahead of March 01 opposition rally (fot maximum publicity effect).
– Might be false flag, but killers had some guts to do it close to best guarded place in Russia (what is security perimeter area width around Cremlin-probably similar to White House?). If it was a FF, Putin (and his security) should be very, very concerned that a targeted political hit happened so close to Cremlin (and presumably by some sort of opposition side).
– What was role of Ukrainian model is yet to be clarified.
– Strange he did not have bodyguards (given the $$ he had, and gov opposition status)?
– The fact is that along Nemtsev, numerous opposition personalities have been killed (Politkovskaya…, even counterspy Litvinenko), imprisioned (Khodorkovskiy, Navalny, Pussy Riot), or exiled like Berezovsky e.t.c.
Logical conlusion – it is not healthy to be agains the system? And Putin was a KGB earlier in his career.
– Honestly – Moscow reminds me on Belgrade, Serbia in 90-ties a lot with numerous political, and/or gangster style killings…
– Perfect material for western press to further demonize Putin (he would be really stupid to do this now)…
Best thing for Putin & Russia is to quickly catch perpertrators, or otherwise it will be a black mark on their eye forever regardless who did it.
Just as bad as the western media. How does anyone know if CIA did it. Just happened. No one knows anything.
Why on Earth whoever did this left the girl alive?
I suspect that it is an entirely criminal affair and perps will be catch soon. I won’t be surprised either if some very unsavory details about Nemtsov emerge from all that.
Anyway, it is obvious that Putin has already been cleared by Russian public opinion. If anything, opposition will probably come out of that event looking even more pathetic than before.
Leaving the girl alive underscores that HE was the victim. Not a robbery or wild shooting, but aimed at him. Therefore had to be done by someone who has it in for him (Putin). If she is in on it she can give confusing evidence, that improves their time to get away. Even if not in on it, from the shock she’ll not remember exactly.
Plus they leave an attractive near-victim witness to speak emotionally at the memorial rally.
the question is: how did they missed her? they were close to each other, she probably wasn’t walking 10 meters behind him…chances are, it is harder to miss her rather than kill her as well…? chances are that 2 of them are even walking hand by hand…or she knows in advance that “something” is going to happen?
Now they’re saying they, or one, got out of the car. So that would be close up, easy to miss one person. They didn’t spray them with machine gun from moving car.
If she is in on it she’d hang back. Or even if not, say someone rings her, she drops back a step or two to take the call. Either way it has to be him, to be sure it looks like deliberate murder, and useful to have a scared but uninjured witness. So, bet she could not see the face. Balaclava or similar and she’s too scared to remember (and may conveniently remember wrong).
Suicide bomber “Putin”‘s latest bomb: staging the fake death of “oppositor” Nemtsov.
This is a parallel and reverse script to the 2003 “two Annas murdered”:
– reverse script of Anna Politkovskaya, an illuminati operative murdered by her boss to suggest that the REAL Putin did it;
– parallel script to Anna Lindh, a fake death staged to advance the agenda “Sweden says yes to EU in the referedum”.
Reminder: to check fake deaths it’s as simple as this: open caskets to public or not.
ALL
illuminati-fake-deaths.blogspot
If I were of a certain twist of mind, like the denizens of the foggy bottom, I might think the following:
Great way to kick off a Moscow Maidan. The march 1st demonstration was in an out of the way part of the city. Now it can be moved to ground hallowed by the blood of an innocent martyr. Ground that just happens to be at the center of things, where you would want a maidan.
The Empire knows no bound, it has no morality. As peoples from Africa, Palestine, Syria, Donbass etc etc know all too well.
@Dissy Yup. I had not seen that but thats what I thought right away. This moves the march to Red square. The appropriate site for a maidan.
The last time they was a real “maidan” in Red Square I think was in 1698.Here is a recount of the result accomplished :
“As a result of a major investigation, 57 Streltsy were executed and the rest sent into exile. Upon his hurried return from London on 25 August 1698, Peter I ordered another investigation. Between September 1698 and February 1699, 1,182 Streltsy were executed and 601 were whipped, branded with iron, or (mostly the young ones) sent into exile. The investigation and executions continued up until 1707. The Moscow regiments, which had not participated in the uprising, were later disbanded. Streltsy and their family members were removed from Moscow.”
Those hoping for a maidan in Moscow should ponder on the results of the last one.
Saker, did you mean that the FSB is going to find any old fall-guy or patsie ? Or did you mean the West ? It sounds like you mean the FSB.
“What worries me most is that the Russian security services did not see this one coming and let it happen. This is a major failure for the FSB which will now have a lot at stake to find out who did it. I expect them to find a fall-guy, a patsy, who will have no provable contacts with any western services and who, ideally, might even have some contacts with the Russian services (like Andrei Lugovoi)”.
This is an article by F. William Engdahl, published in January 2012 before the Russian presidential election, in which “the leading opposition figures” are presented, including Boris Nemtsov.
“Regime Change in the Russian Federation? Why Washington Wants ‘Finito’ with Vladimir Putin”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/regime-change-in-the-russian-federation-why-washington-wants-finito-with-vladimir-putin/28571
The Vineyard has attracted the end of the month’s leftover trolls and dolts on this topic.
He’s dead because he was useless alive compared to dead.
Now, who benefits?
Does Putin, the FSB, the Kremlin, Russian nationalists, pro-Novorossiyans benefit?
Just the opposite. Like MH-17.
There are facts rolling out of the investigation fast. In a few days, they’ll have this solved.
It’s not a good idea to poke the Bear or Putin.
If the Targeting Officer was in the CIA station, there will be “people” sent back to the States.
If it was Oligarch, there will be confiscations of properties and businesses.
If it was criminals from either Ukraine or Russia, a few dead people will be discovered.
But you can be sure, this will be over in 72 hours or so.
I’m sure there are guys in Lubyanka basement right now having their balls wired to batteries if they try to stay silent.
Suicide bomber “Putin”‘s latest bomb: staging the fake death of “oppositor” Nemtsov.
This is a parallel and reverse script of “the murdered Annas”:
– reverse of Anna Politkovskaya, a low rank operative in the illuminati payroll, murdered by her boss to suggest that the REAL Putin did it;
– parallel to Anna Lindh, a fake death staged to advance the agenda “Sweden says yes to EU in the referedum”.
Reminder: to check fake deaths it’s as simple as this: public open casket or not.
Star Trek’s Spock died – Parallel script to Boris Nemtsov
FOUR facts about Leonard Nimoy:
1. the real Nimoy died years ago. He was impersonated after his death by a quite different looking person.
2. Nimoiy was the only man who was officially portrayed as the identity used by the current Grand Master of the Ordo Illuminatus, when he appears in plain sight.
3. Nimoiy was the only man who was officially portrayed as the current Illuminati Grand Master in the first identity where he appears hidden in plain sight.
4. The death of the impersonator was announced hours before suicide bomber “Putin”‘s latest bomb: staging the fake death of “oppositor” Boris Nemtsov.
So “Nimoy’s death” is another parallel script, or in other words, another fake death.
http://illuminati-fake-deaths.blogspot.com/2015/02/boris-nemtsov-killed-by-putin-spock.html
While I agree with Honk’s suggestion about the title (‘False Flag in Moscow?’), this appears to be a first class provocation action aimed to revitalize the politically bankrupt Russian opposition. And worse, it builds up a mood to ”act against the tyrant”, that is, create an atmosphere that might make the very assassination of Putin aceptable, if not to he Russians, at least to a western audience.
It sounds a bit far fetched, but after all the horrific acts of the US that we have witnessed in the past year, everything should be expected.
It is intended to be “serious”. As we have seen in umpteen cases so far, for street protests to become “revolution” they need blood. And when the blood is that of a “critic of Putin”, “vocal critic of President Putin”, “outspoken Putin critic”, “opposition leader”, “leading Russian opposition leader”, “Anti-Putin leader”, “champion of democracy”, “towering figure of the opposition”, “heart of Russia’s opposition”, “Russian Political ‘Golden Boy’ Who Battled Putin”, who announced beforehand that “I am afraid that Putin will kill me”, the better. It is probably expected that it would provoke a great indignation at the mourning procession in memory of Boris Nemtsov. The culprit is already designated, the possible accusations that it is a “false flag” ridiculed in advance.
Of course the girl was a prostitute, maybe of the less obvious kind not paid per hour. Look at the last picture in this article: http://vg-news.ru/n/113166
http://vg-news.ru/files/uploaded_images/201502/%20и%20Анна%20Дурицкая_500.jpg
It’s quite obvious to me.
I’ll repeat,Tymoshenko and Kuchma have proven links to an assassin payed to kill Gennady journalist,and that person is now a RADA Deputy……anything is possible?
How on Earth can a failed politican, out of power and parliament for over a decade and who heads a party with no elected representatives, be described as “leading and prominent”?
Don’t be silly. He was so leading and prominent that the Swedish MSM reporter ensured us that Nemtsov’s death was a very hot topic in Moscow — well, a “very hot topic” among the foreign journalists like herself, as she stupidly also pointed out (wonder if that little revelation had any “consequences” with regard to her career).
While we aren’t sure who did the murder.It’s obvious the one with nothing to gain from it is Putin.As is shown clearly by the Navalny case,if Putin wanted to curtail a critic he would go the legal route.Certainly, at least at first.Navalny is far more of a threat than Nemtsov was to Russia.And Putin won’t even seriously jail him,let alone murder him.And then there is the matter of murdering your opponent across the street from your office.Really,does anyone think Putin would be that stupid.
So that leaves, “who” killed him, and “why” was he killed? The suspects in order of likelihood of guilt are:
1.Western or Ukrainian intelligence services or organizations.
2.Mob connections he was involved with.
3.Pro-Putin people or nationalists (without Putin’s knowledge).That would include pro-Novorossian people.
4.Rouge FSB.
Personally,I’m leaning to 1,2,or 3,so far.With my “hunch”,1 or 3 as the most likely.That covers the “Who”.
As to the “Why”.
If number 1.It would be to discredit Putin and Russia.And to hopefully, for them,spark unrest in Russia.
if number 2.Pay back for some debt or an offense that the criminal elements held against him.
If number 3.They thought they were getting rid of a traitor.An agent,causing trouble in the West’s pay.
If number 4 (see the answer to number 3).
3,4 He was not sufficiently dangerous or treacherous to have a strong case here.
2: nothing is known, and will be easier to crack.
Somebody doing this under (1) would need to have zero understanding or no care about longer term . N would be one of plausible future leaders, and a quite sensible one in such a pack. Than the plan is to just destabilize, not to bring about any (better) alternative.
First and foremost: Good riddance to bad garbage. Boris Nemtsov much resembled Austria’s vile scum Jörg Haider who, at least, had the good taste to kill himself by drunk driving. Indeed, Haider’s depravity didn’t pose any problem to his compatriots — the funeral was attended by mammoth crowds. Nemtsov’s death is a non-issue altogether as the West’s rabid presstitutes have a miniscule following in Russia. It’s funny how this gentry doesn’t understand (or care) that whoever they start eulogising in Russia actually gets an instant kiss of death this way. Please note that this judgement applies fairly well to Vladimir Putin also since, of course, he would only be eulogised by selfsame presstitutes after having committed high treason.
Secondly, the Maidan wannabes in Russia will not make it, as rabble-rousers would have to be imported en masse. On this basis — and provided the murder was indeed a false flag — it could even be said that it was “too little, too late”, thus making Nemtsov a very silly joke of a Martyr.
Don’t be silly. Haider was an Austrian patriot. Nemtsov was a non-gentile whose allegiance lies elsewhere other than Russia.
It sounds like the CIA are attempting to get people to the march/protest in Moscow by ‘framing’ Putin, as Navalny is not getting the numbers wanted.
If Nemtsov’s Wikipeadia reference is updated linking Putin’s fingerprints to the crime, it’s a sure sign its a CIA false flag.
Clearly looks like a false flag, although I would not pin the blame on the FSB. From what I can see Nemtsov looks like a low-level target, and the FSB does not have unlimited resources…
What no one seems to consider is, this is an area of intense security. Like DC or London where lots of diplomats and government ministers are around, a high class neighborhood.
You can not approach such an area without being under scrutiny and if the FSB had any hints a hit was going to take place they would have locked up the place.
This is more than a professional hit, no professional would be able to hit someone in such an area and get away with it. This was a hit with the resources of a vast intelligence organization that had mapped out all the area and its defenses and knew where the blind spots would be and how to get there. When I was in DC I saw at least 10 spots where I was spotted, by that I mean they considered what I was doing and my threat level and I was a tourist wearing a tshit and not even a camera or anything else. If I had a gun or I had talked to anyone like a spotter I would have been instantly grabbed. I doubt Russia is all that deficient.
You have to look at what resources it would take to make a hit in such a place and get away. Crazy people acting alone might be able to make the hit but they wont be able to get away. These people did and so did the people supporting them. Stop it with a mob hit and opposition etc.. They would ALL have been caught less than an hour no matter what precaution they took.
Unless of course you consider the Russian FSB the butt off all jokes.. and they really are that inferior to everyone else. Even MI6 might have trouble in such an op and only the US would even risk such a confrontation. UK would get clobbered if they tried and failed.. The US is reckless enough and don’t care.
Wow. A lot of analysis of who did this. I am more concerned with how it will be used by the west.
How important is this,
Quite frankly the only one who will really care is this poor mans death is his family and friends.
What concerns me as someone looking at the UK media, is how this will be used to damn Putin and Russia. That is what the focus should be. And whether it will have any impact; regime change
What I want to know is will this generate recruits to the liberal pro american/ maidan type agenda? To undermine Putins govt
Can someone shed light on this.
Dear The Saker,
Meanwhile in Kiev:
http://tass.ru/en/world/780190
Former Party of Regions commits suicide in Kiev.
Rgds,
Veritas
you friends and folk, just recall or take back to the times , after WW-II when all over the world the still hidden, mounting crimes and modus operandi of the Nazies in germany and all over Europe were disclosed and made clear to practically every common person in the world.
( and there was no Cell photos and no Web )
Now just imagine, the days after… when the Empire of chaos eventually falls down to the mud and excrement where it belongs. What common people will discover, realize and be stunned about is beyond imagination. And let alone with web and cell imaging.. What to say when its space was the whole world and its time span from 1945 to our days.
Документальный фильм о Немцове
http://vk.com/war_on_line?z=video253051137_171108460%2Faf1fb111c77f166b69
He has some interesting friends,
Here he is with John McCain
http://politikus.ru/uploads/posts/2013-06/1371134340_mccain-1.png
And with Tymoshenko in July
http://fedotov1384.livejournal.com/272965.html
From Russia Insider: http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/02/28/3967 Very good article about the different narratives which in the similarity of their polarities threaten the equilibrium of the world. I don’t agree with everything he says but he has a grasp of national psyche which is true. God Save Us All.
The writer tries too hard to endear the American audience he is writing for with clumsy and wooden statements such as: “Opinions are expressed on the street; I am writing from Moscow and don’t need a pseudonym to say that the Russian news is a joke.”
He also overplays the “ideological” part of the equation.
But finishes on a high with an insightful and precise conclusion: “If the Russian cause comes to look like the fight against fascism, the well Russia draws from is deeper than anything we as Americans can imagine.”
https://deepresource.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/boris-nemtsov.jpg
Look here with whom that NWO half-breed Jew Nemtsov was siding! A bookcase of 5th column treachery ffs! But that aside, I am far more astonished by the fact that Russia is allowing Western agency outposts masquerading as numerous Western NGOs to freely meddle in sociopolitical life of Russia! You don’t allow your enemy to meddle in your internal affairs and political processes! Not enemy’s NGOs or owning your media! Even 6 year old children know that much ffs! And it’s easily arranged with regard to media question (as well as Western NGOs: you expel them, ban them, and members put on trial and hence to long life in prison): what you do you arrange things on the basis of reciprocity, and reciprocity principle states that what you allow of mine in your domain or backyard, the same will I allow of yours in my domain (backyard). It’s very simple and immensely effective way of stopping any type of colonization or hostility. By the reciprocity principle, moles like Nemtsov and Ponomarov (see below) would never be allowed to operate in the first place, since they wouldn’t be allowed to do that in the West what they are doing in Russia! Very effective way of stopping disguised foreign invasion and occupation, which, should be mentioned, has only been coming from he West in the last 300 years or so. See this!
19th January 2015
“An interesting thing happened in Washington recently. Relatively small, little publicized event took place at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a prominent liberal-leaning think tank in Washington.The event, “Russia’s Opposition in a Time of War and Crisis,” featured prominent Russian liberal opposition parliamentarian (member of the Russian Duma) Ilya Ponomarev, a noted critic of Russian President Putin, providing a detailed presentation regarding the current political climate in Russia, and the potential for the ousting or overthrow of the Russian government. Yes, you heard that right. A Russian elected official came to the United States to give a talk about how best to effect regime change in his own country.Ilya Ponomarev prepared an entire PowerPoint detailing his contempt for Russia and his best advice for its ruination. The most significant portion of Ponomarev’s presentation centered on a slide titled “Conditions for the Change of Power in Russia,” which laid out essentially a roadmap or blueprint for regime change in Russia.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-a-russian-parliamentarian-just-commit-treason/5425603
High time for Russia to formally and completely dismantle that Western outpost of agents in various NGOs there, as well as punish that such obvious, and even non other by themselves admitted (you have confession on that picture above and this video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIJEXaXuxeE – so you don’t have to dig deeper for that matter), Western agents: trial and execution!
Lysander February 27, 2015 said:
‘ Alas this will work exactly as the Empire needs it to: it will make it very difficult for Merkel, Holande or any other Euro clown to deal with Putin and will weaken opposition to arming the Ukies. Most of the west will believe it and it does not matter if the rest of the world does not. The US has to keep Europe under its control at any and all costs.
Anyway, it seems agents of the west are very disposable. Poroshenko take note. ‘
ABSOLUTELY! I could not have said it better.
Cemu panika?
Njemcov je bio kriminalac I vucibatina, završilo đubre kako je i živjelo, nemoralan i pokvaren do srži.
Cjeli život radio da uništi Rusiju za račun svojih SAD-ističkih gazda koji su ga i plaćali.
Ali nije postigao ništa već 10 godina i bio im korisniji mrtav nego živ.
Sutra na takozvanim demonstracijama se neće dogoditi ništa jer boli u Rusiji nekoga kurac za toga ološa i ništariju.
Bijeda milijuna građana Rusije je bila rezultat politike njega i njegovih gangstera.
Niko ne place za tim ljigavcem osim njegove obitelji, čak ni njegovi naredbodavci koji su ga žrtvovali.
Jedan petokolonas manje
RT News was dropped by Time Warner Cable in the Myrtle Beach area yesterday. I have cancelled my subscription.
This was shown this morning on CNN on a loop basis. I like Bourdain for the food stuff, but after seeing this I am having a bad case of indigestion.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/27/tsr-sot-sciutto-bourdain-putin-opponent-boris-nemtsov-shot-dead.cnn
I have read through all the comments and to me it all just adds to a lot of speculation that does not help assess the political impact of this death
How is this being dealt with in Russia???
The western media is going on about a man I admit I never heard of along with probably 99% of UK citizens.
Has it rocked Russia?
Was he a leading politician?
Has it destabilised Putins govt?
Will it lead to a Russia Regime change?
Any answers
As the western media is really hyping this issue in a way I find unsettling
>How is this being dealt with in Russia???
As shocking news (with a nuanced difference between opposition and pro-government reactions, with the latter playing it down, and former up somewhat)
>The western media is going on about a man I admit I never heard of along with probably 99% of >UK citizens.
Main Russian news sources are translated in English and available on internet (without a BBC subscription).
>Has it rocked Russia?
Yes
>Was he a leading politician?
Someone who moved from a spotlight as young brilliant reformer to a relative obscurity; remained a co-chair of an opposition political party (Republican Party-PARNAS)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_of_Russia_%E2%80%93_People%27s_Freedom_Party
At present, no seats in Parliament, 1 in local government.
>Has it destabilised Putins govt?
No.
>Will it lead to a Russia Regime change?
No.
The fsb was probably too busy on the internet trying to catch those pesky Catholics (who are clearly a threat to Russian national security, judging by the numbers of them who are saker supporters), and trying to demonstrate to the world the superiority of the Orthodox faith above all others. So they probably left their colleagues from the Russian Orthodox Church in charge with internal security.
S**t. They’re onto us..
Joking apart, I have the distinct impression the current pope is something of a fan of religious orthodoxies – including Russian.
A Universalist is likely to focus on essential values and treat doctrine as cultural differences on ritual/practice. That is not to make him a ‘liberal’ as the Anglophone MSM mistakenly think.
Which might explain why the Vatican news outlets – which have been expanded – are notably lacking in Putinphobia. A certain ‘sympatico’ with misrepresentation, distortion and outright defamation too.
And the planes are nice. ;)
http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-cia-may-just-assassinated-boris-nemtsov-moscow-blame-putin/
Provocation !!!
In other news: The WSJ reports that the US has been suppling satellite imagery of Novorossian positions to the ethnic cleansing Nazis. So where is the US satellite imagery of MH17 then?
Nemtsov was about so insignificant that it did not monitor of FSB, and therefore she could escape danger around Nemtsov.
Dear friends,
I do disagree with this idea of false flag ops. It seems to be driven by causality bias, I.e. fact that he was against current Kremlin rulers/ policies and his dead body causing either by anti-kremlin forces or by kremlin, but nobody else. It’s a binary thinking. Let me explain. He was potential successor of Eltsin as a President, but then Eltsin choose Putin over him. He got life-time envy to Putin. He was crown prince and until last minute he thought himself as a crown prince. He thought his kingdom was last minute stolen. This guy and such like Chubais, Khakamada and do on were walking on 2 legs: making politics to benefit in business and making business to be successful in politics. Nemtsov was doing business in gasoil trading since he became Governor of Nizny Novgorod where NORSI oil refinery is located. Oil products were sold to Ukraine, as well using all kind of grey/ black schemes. There is also a story of Bank ” Neftianoj” and Mr.Lifshirz, sponsoring Union of Right Forces” party ( Chubais, Khakamada and Nemtsov). But that is his first leg. Second leg was in business. In Russia he has no business, only place was Ukraine. And it was not going well. I have no facts to prove, but my theory he was killed over liabilities / cash borrowed / promises/ commitments given to his Ukrainian partners. That was the cause. The consequence was used by parties who can use it and benefit from it. You know them.
I have read a while ago one very interesting article about the cooperators with the Empire and if they don’t achieve expected result for the Empire, they are simply discarded. It looks like this model is somehow working for the Empire, no witness left.
I have just finished reading the book “To dead” from Jozef Karika and there is absolute detailed description how this method is working in real life especially in Jewish lead circles and actions.
Most here clearly see the false flag demonizing Putin but most of their supposed reasons are more or less secondary. No one seems to notice Putin’s real “crime” against the powers that be because they fail to fully understand the real power. No national leader but Putin has had the integrity or willingness to do what is right and proper regardless of the power of those enemies of doing right for his people. That massive, evil power Putin opposes by his actions is the ownership of almost all nations through agent banks of the Rothschild dynasty, owning each nation’s medium of exchange as private bank “credit” (pretended debt) LOANED INTO EXISTENCE AT USURY, the true enslaver of all nations. Although Putin does not seem to be trying to change that method of creating the medium of the RF, he is actively doing all that he can to escape it’s prime enslaver, the U.S. dollar. Much of the world is falling in line behind Putin’s strength of character in this real crusade for the right. This makes Putin the number one “criminal” who must be stopped, no matter how, by the monetary, true powers in the world today, notably satanic in essence. Putin’s apparent Christian faith only makes these talmudists the more determined to do him in. May God keep him safe and working successfully to free mankind from the greatest tyranny the world has ever suffered.
Gadaffi had pan-African ambitions – to create an African dollar-antidote, backed by REAL resources – oil and gold.
That was why he was taken out – and a Libya-friendly US diplomat with him.
For General Russian people, 85 % whom back up Putin, he, the troublemaker is better dead than alive. For the Russian Western Elite, and the West, he was priceless. What he means for the Russian MUZHIKS, I don’t know. But for the “Activists” this is a strong point to be more aggressive and to recruit new blood. Unfortunately Kremlin is still divided and conspired because Russian Muzhiks are not able to transform, and take the controls of theirs nation.
This latest false flag (I can’t fathom how some can thing it is anything but) reeks of desperation in an effort to rally the pathetic Russian Fifth Column which now stands completely discredited, and also for export to the Western sheeple.
As a false flag operation, it massively falls short on the shock value and carnage of the MH-17. The timing is also pathetic, albeit convenient for those that seek to exploit it. The location is of good dramatic value, but haven’t we had lots of that lately?
If the enemies of Russia want something really done, they will have to come up with something big tomorrow! There are many rumors about Ukie snipers and troublemakers. I can guarantee we will get cheap theatrics tomorrow.
Were the Russians caught napping? Again?!?
What kind of security they have in such a sensitive area? Try to pull a stunt like this one this close to the White House and see what happens…
Just like our host, the Saker, I’m alarmed the FSB can’t prevent something like this from happening – forget anywhere in Russia… can they at least concentrate their efforts, in say; a mile radius around the freakin’ Kremlin?!
Secondly; some pro-Russian commentators have been saying that we all should wait for the results of the investigation before jumping to conclusions… I say, to hell with that!
This new batch of a propaganda campaign will last only for a few days time, they know the truth will out, so they’re simply aiming to maximize the damage before that happens. I hope the Russians learned their lessons from the MH17 smear campaign, and move far more quickly than they did last time. Parallely; they have to mount a serious counter to the western MSM propaganda [Putin did it] that is already plastered all over the news papers and news networks.
It’s all well and good to be concerned about political destabilization within the mother land, but Russia cannot afford to neglect the pro-Russian supporters outside Russia, because if it gets to the point of direct intervention in Ukraine (or dog forbid Russia itself) it’s gonna be down to these pro-Russian and anti-war people who will be calling their congress-person or MP desperately (as it happened with Syria) in a bid to stop the madness before it’s too late.
(Apologies if this article’s been posted already)
Did the US Murder Boris Nemtsov? The Imminent Threat
“[..] The biggest concern now is if there are more killings planned for Sunday [march]. The US seems to be going ahead with all of its plans even if the necessary successes at each step before are not met. We have seen this in Syria and Ukraine.
In such an event, it is obvious how the US will spin this, and the call will begin openly for Putin to step down. While this last part may be an eventuality at any rate, the events tomorrow will tell us whether we should expect a serious escalation in this process.”
LINK> http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/did-us-murder-boris-nemstov-imminent.html
^Aaaand that’s what worries me. Once the West goes all out, calling for someone to “step down,” just like a pig-headed bulldog that clenched its jaws on its victim, they just won’t let it go, no matter what. No matter how many facts, evidence, appeasement, compromises or diplomacy you throw at them. In such an event, the only solution is to put the rabid dog down, and when this type of scenario involves nuclear super-powers: it means war.
PS: Btw, this is the second time I’m attempting to post this…
-TL2Q
Time to March!
Is it too much to suggest that the Russian leaders demand an investigation into the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, Martin L. King, Malcalm X, Fred Hampton, and John Lennon, (just as a start)?
There is a longer list of international assassinations conducted by the CIA, MI-5, & MOSSAD, start with Africas finest leader, Patrice Lumumba, try Allende, Diem, add thousands more.
I suggest, in case Vldimir Putin is not reading this website, that The Saker inaugurate a full Permanent SECTION of his Saker Website, dedicated to American Oligarch assassinations. This SECTION could also be expanded to include MOSSAD, & MI-5 assassinations, and assassinations where more than one of the above Spy/Murder agencies assassinated together.
There must be a price to pay (Payback) by the imperialist Oligarchs for their False Flag crimes. The history of their criminal murders must be revealed. With all of us cooperating, we should do quite a good job at exposing these assassinations and False Flags.
We might start with the Coup d’etat in Dallas!
For the VISION!
For the Democratic Republics!
For the Heroes of Stalingrad and Donetz,
IMAGINE
A civil court found in 1999 I think that on the balance of probabilites the US government killed MLK. His civil rights passages were amplified by mass media (to bring down the anglos from power via repopulation liberalism – I am conservative so I would have given afro americans their own viable country in the US to set their own laws but the zionists want every western country to be split into tiny but harmless racially aware factions – including ango/euro mass population reduction) but he also had a lot to say about the CIA.
John Onesti has an interesting blog on the JFK assassination including a great audio by Robert Morningstar (except for the exaggeration about the date of the jaques de molay execution) explaining the ritual Hiram Abiff whacking element. It’s not hard to imagine Skull & Bonesmen at the Yale crypt taking out JFK’s half a skull every Nov. 22nd to fondle it. They are very proud of that trophy.
His death is not a tragedy, he lived as a shit man and died as a shit man.
I am surprised at the reaction of Putin.
It seems it is more profitable in Russia to be a foreign agent, to work against Russia than to be a good law abiding citizen.
Well, IF this was a West orchestrated false flag, it certainly wasn’t done with the Russian public in mind. The guy was a political non-entity there. It was strictly to milk it for western consumption I suppose.
But I actually think the personal settling of scores is as plausible a scenario as any, given this was clearly a pretty seedy character with shady deals and a big mouth. Who knows. At the same time, the location where it happened would have been extremely daring for some mafia style hit. Who knows.
This is a rare case, where the witness, a young Ukrainian Mistress, next to the victim was left unmolested. Such things usually do not happen in contract killings, or they were very professional killers, pretending to be amateurs.
Very strange news from Novorossiya News – found on Facebook.
It seems the Wiki page on the murder went up only 13 minutes later.
But the REALLY strange bit is that as many as 37 pages on the killing were created BEFORE the murder – by several days. That excludes time-lag as an explanation.
The reporter from NN said he awaited new developments from this ‘theatre of the absurd’.
Was it staged in exchange for ‘useful info’ by the FSB?
What do you think, the Saker?
The first wikipedia page still there is at 23:18, 27 February 2015 UTC , 3 hours after the event
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Boris_Nemtsov&oldid=649153071
For comparison, the first mentioning on http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/ is at
22:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC) , 2 hours after the event
Moscow time is UTC + 3.
Hope that helps.
Thanks – but doesn’t really exclude the NN claim.
Intervention by NSA would have to be ruled out.
Jury’s out – still.
I don’t mind my comments getting trashed. It has happened in the past, and I don’t consider them that important to make a fuss.
Two of my comments to this thread have been published. One comment criticizing Saker for the sensationalist “FALSE FLAG IN MOSCOW!” title, however, has been censored? Why?
I just said something to the effect that the Saker has to wipe a lot of egg from his face if it turns out it was just a rival shooting that opposition politician. The Saker should at least turn the exclamation mark in the title into a question mark because he does not present any evidence, except logical(ly admittedly quite convincing) arguments. It doesn’t help the credibility of this regarded analyst if he “knows” things without having to look at the facts.
Please don’t turn into a prima donna, just because your talent and hard word have earned you a well deserved following.
Oops. After publishing this last comment, I was taken to “comment page 3”, which immediately made me aware of the fact that my “censored” comment might be on page 2, which it is. So that’s why I couldn’t find it.
So the icelandic Saker is a pager. Good to know. So I take the last comment back. Still wished for a little more fact-based opionating.
Honk there are newer threads with more detail or updates.
Will check them out.
My point was that at the time the headline was published, the Saker did not have any evidence, except the results of his (admittedly sound) reasoning, looking at this post. Not enough for a headline this free of doubt.
Boris Nemzov, Mikhail Chechetov and the double standards. MKII
https://www.facebook.com/854476074569989/photos/a.854496011234662.1073741828.854476074569989/1094548277229433/?type=1
“One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic”. If the press cares so much about peoples lives why isn’t it so sympathetic to people of Donbass and Syria ?
https://www.facebook.com/854476074569989/photos/a.854496011234662.1073741828.854476074569989/1094658760551718/?type=1
Dear Saker
Could you publish this video.
Получение инструкций в посольстве США
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf3LjntNX20&feature=youtu.be
On January 17, 2012 soon after McFaul was appointed the new United States Ambassador to Russia and arrived in Moscow to assume his post, a number of organizers and prominent participants of the 2011 Russian protests, as well as some prominent figures of the Russian opposition parties, visited the Embassy of the United States in Moscow. On the entrance to the embassy they were encountered by TV journalists who asked them why they were visiting the new Ambassador.[10] On the video later released on YouTube[11] and titled “Получение инструкций в посольстве США” (Receiving instructions in the Embassy of the United States) opposition activists appear flustered by the unexpected media attention. Later, when upon leaving the embassy and once again being encircled by journalists, the activists responded by declaring the journalists spreaders of “Surkovian propaganda” and made no other statement.[10] The visitors to Michael McFaul included: Yevgeniya Chirikova (member of Strategy-31 and Khimki forest activist leader), Boris Nemtsov (leader of the People’s Freedom Party), Lev Ponomarev (human rights activist of the Moscow Helsinki Group), Sergey Mitrokhin (leader of Yabloko party), Oksana Dmitriyeva (deputy head of A Just Russia), Lilia Shibanova (head of the GOLOS Association elections monitor group).[10] Two weeks later, journalist Olga Romanova who managed the financial spending of the December protests, also visited the American Embassy. She said that they discussed Russian protests and the United States Presidential election campaign with McFaul.[12]
Related partial translation from Fort Russ (I think she has the year wrong)
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/03/boris-nemtsov-getting-instructions-at.html
Indeed. The last part of this article said it clear. Russian Intelligence got to take a look at Venezuela’s SEBIN. That’s their Security Intelligence Service. Back in 2014 during Leopoldo Lopéz arrest, they uncovered a plot to assassinate Lopéz by the same opposition under orders by their Zionists bosses. It would be executed at the very moment of his detention. Of course to create the chaos. With this information the events were set to avoid it taking place. Diosdado Cabello with full assistance of the FANB were there to arrest him without any problems. Of course Zionist media was there present to later on TV, put the lies and manipulations. A standard of these Ashkenazim impostors sick behavior since their psychotic beginnings in 448 CE. From there on it has become worse.
Digita il testo o l’indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento.
TRENDS FALSE FLAG
The latest false flag seem to have reached a higher degree of processing: hitting opponents of their enemies.
The judge investigating the Argentine Nisman Kirchner,
drafting anti-Islamic Charlie Hebdo,
protesters Karkhov,
and now the Russian Nemtsov are the most recent examples.
E ‘in a sense, the development of a practice already tested in the Baltic countries (the shots of snipers against demonstrators anti-Russian), with stops in Venezuela and in many other states, and ends in Kiew with sniping against protesters -russi Maidan.
This strategy is parallel to that of the classic false flag against civilian targets, which has its own long history passing by the massacres in Italy of the ’70s, the technically unsurpassed until September 11 killing of’ Malaysian plane in the skies of the Donbass. Ask “who benefits” is still the best antidote, with a clear conscience anyway as the US strategy is more and more complex and elaborate. And even desperate.
In the coming months the US will need to conclude the co-optation of Europe to its hegemonic projects, consolidate the Western Front anti-NATO Russia (and China) and to sign the TTIP; the last hesitations of Germany and France (Minsk2) require new provocations in European territory. We are careful …
TENDENZE FALSE FLAG
Le ultime false flag sembrano aver raggiunto un maggior grado di elaborazione: colpire gli oppositori dei propri nemici.
Il giudice argentino Nisman che indagava sulla Kirchner,
la redazione anti-islamica di Charlie Hebdo,
i manifestanti di Karkhov,
ed ora il russo Nemtsov sono i più recenti esempi.
E’ in un certo senso lo sviluppo di una pratica già sperimentata nei paesi baltici (gli spari dei cecchini contro i manifestanti anti-russi), con tappe in Venezuela ed in numerosi altri Stati, per concludersi a Kiew con il cecchinaggio contro i manifestanti anti-russi di Maidan.
Questa strategia è parallela a quella classica di false flag contro obiettivi civili, che ha la sua lunga storia passante dalle stragi in Italia degli anni ’70, alla tecnicamente insuperabile 11 settembre fino all’abbattimento dell’ aereo malese nei cieli del Donbass. Chiedersi “a chi giova” rimane ancora il miglior antidoto, con la coscienza comunque di come la strategia USA sia sempre più complessa ed elaborata. Ed anche disperata.
Nei prossimi mesi gli USA avranno bisogno di concludere la cooptazione dell’Europa ai propri progetti egemonici, consolidare il fronte occidentale Nato anti-Russia (e Cina) e far firmare il TTIP; le ultime esitazioni di Germania e Francia (Minsk2) richiedono nuove provocazioni in territorio europeo. Stiamo attenti …
The whole affair looks like the modern issue of Gladio, which apparently never died, but was used for new roles. Right-wing secret armies, many of them ex-Nazis in every country. I used to think this was all science fiction but have since found out that so many events now have rather nefarious clues that the MSM media do not care to breach. The Empire wants a war or Putin out. He is considered too dangerous to survive. They will keep on until their defeat, which,I pray, will happen soon.
Death hoax in russia!
Why does the dead body of fitness enthusiast boris nemtsov have a pot belly?
Where are the bullet holes? where is the blood?
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id789.html
Hi– thesaker blog policy is ‘no caps’. He considers it ‘shouting’. I have lowercased your comment and approved it.
“Ukrainian model Anna Duritskaja, 23, had a 4-year romance with slain Russian opposition leader Boris Nemstov and was with him when he was assasinated. According to heraccount, she was waiting for Mr. Nemstov since 10 pm at Bosco-cafe of the GUM shoping mall at the Red Square right across the Kremlin. The couple had dinner at around 11pm Moscow time and then left the malland went for a walk toward Vasilievsky embankment right by the Kremlin walls. Their intended destination was the posh building half a mile away from the Kremlin where the murdered politician had an apartment.” Source:
http://observer.com/2015/03/ukrainian-girlfriend-of-slain-russian-key-to-the-case/
http://uatoday.tv/news/ukrainian-model-missing-after-witnessing-murder-of-russian-opposition-politician-boris-nemtsov-412531.html
For all that a man has been murdered. Let’s not get too politically jaded here. What the Russians should do is conduct a thorough, professional, transparent investigation and catch who actually did it.
Anyways, if we’re going to be Machiavellian about it, then the prerogative for the sovereign is to say and think, “You (outsiders) don’t kill my people. I kill my people.” (The idea being similar to the prerogative to discipline one’s own and be disciplined or corrected only by those who have a natural and logical interest in your actual well being.) To that extent, granting FTSOA this is just a false flag, then still as you noted it constitutes a failure for Russian security services.
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Given the overall strategic crisis centered on the collapse of the Trans Atlantic system represented by the bankrupt City of London/Wall Street financiers, Nemstovs murder smells of Victoria ” Cookie Monster” Nuland.