Dear friends,
Catherine Austin Fitts
Last month I have had the real pleasure to have a one hour long conversation with Catherine Austin Fitts, the president of Solari, Inc., the publisher of The Solari Report and managing member of Solari Investment Advisory Services. Normally, the Catherine’s interviews are for subscribers only, but she has kindly agreed to make it available for free to our community.
This was the first time I had granted anybody an hour long interview over the phone and I have to admit that I enjoyed it very much. Catherine and I are planning to repeat this on a quarterly basis.
Here is the main page of our interview: https://solari.com/blog/russia-and-global-geopolitics-with-the-saker/
You can get the transcript in PDF format here: https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2016/sr20160204_1.pdf
As for the audio, you can listen to it here: https://solari.com/audio/sr20160204_InterviewHQ.mp3
As I said, it was a real pleasure talking to Catherine (thanks A. for putting us in touch!) and I look forward to your future conversations. In the meantime, I highly recommend that you check out the rest of the Solari Reports and the Solari Books.
I hope that you will enjoy the interview as much as I did.
Kind regards,
The Saker
nice one.
i thought this would come to pass before long.
f william engdahl and joseph p farrell (both formidable analysts) have referred to the saker content quite recently again.
best regards, lb
What a marvelous interaction between two hearts in a “marriage of true minds.”
They take us to the limits of the possible but I sense the restrictions of those limits.
I don’t subscribe to Catherine’s Solari report. Unlike Saker, I feel she’s in it for the money. That may be unfair as for her heart but for economy’s sake, she’s an investment counselor.
How can she be pure of heart when she’s dealing with the devil investment-divestment liar as a career? Investment as interest is about as evil as it gets. Her heart seems in the right place, she says all the right words, she’s walking and talking and I’m sure she does not consider herself as an enabler of empire but…can you look this good and be fighting with the scorpion, as she says? If she’s doing it and getting away with it, I’ve got to consult with Oliver’s Fabian “think this out again.”
But then I have to shine a light upon myself. I am definitely not pure of heart but at least I do not take interest, eat meat or keep pets. The two people I greatly admire are the subject of this thread and they do that which I will not do on principle. I am assuming that Catherine takes interest herself since that is what she helps others to do at the max.
I am not better than others nor am I worse as far as I can see. But what I do see is that the quality of my mind is different due to my practices, having become so coincident with the practices. In the past I’ve done much of what I now reject.
I judge myself to be simplistic, arrogant, supercilious, pompous, condescending and boorish; as others also have judged me. I blame love because she just doesn’t seem to give a shot what I or others think. I was raised to be as timid as a mouse. I was all right in a crappy sort of way until she got a hold over me.
I could be wrong and I feel that sting about as often as the Feast Cafe opens. I resolve to quit just as often and just as often I don’t. It’s either an addiction or a restriction I can’t control. If I’m banned from this site as I’ve been banned from others I’ll get what I deserve.
Uncle Timothy took to drugs; I can’t do that. My deep namesake, Dionysus, took to wine; I can’t do that. My middle name namesake, James, was the first bishop of Jerusalem; I can’t do that. It’s all a set up for narcissism and delusions of grandeur: I can do that very well. I’m caught between a rock and a hard place as manic-depressives know so well.
My greatest need is for love which goes hand in glove with community. I see it coming but I can’t get out of the way. “you’re gonna make me lonesome when you go.”
In the meantime, let’s ride this train all the way to hell and back.
“This wheel’s on fire, rolling down the road. Best notify my vineyard kin. This wheel shall explode!” Mostly Dylan.
I agree with you here, Dennis, and I also have reservations with Catherine Austin Fitts´s related to her occupation and former employer, the Bush administration.
I thought the same when I read the presentation of Cathal Haughian, who intorduced himself as “I’ve spent my adult life in 51 countries. This was financed by correctly anticipating the Great Financial Crisis in 2008”. I guess we have to understand that with his financial expertise was able to “invest” in the “precise” to “make a lot of money” before the collapse of 2008. Many other people also literally was covered by money, I’ve seen reports on TV where brokers told that these crisis/colapses are unique opportunities to make a fortune….. With the misfortune of others, of course.
The problem is when we are introduced to these people as “winners”, even here, where it is supposed to fight for a different world, more just and equitable for all and not just for a handful of smart-ass, based on ancient Christian and human values.
I do not feel at all that I am in the same trench than people who works making profit of the worst o this Capitalist Cassino, moving money from one point to another.
Whereas the money, is not created ( well, actually, yes, this is done in some places like the US ) nor destroyed, only changes hands, I do not know if Cathal will have thought that perhaps part of his travels have been financed by the unjust appropiation of savings or pensions of many citizens who have dedicated their lives to work from sunrise to sunset and overnight they saw that the fruit of their efforts had evaporated. And that those bank failures that occurred in 2008 we have paid well distributed amongst the ordinary citizens through drastic cuts in wages and working conditions achieved during decades of fighting in the streets by our ancestors.
And so, I found very interesting the interview, but , so sorry, I have not much interest on what have to say investment advisers or people who “educate the children of China’s best families”.
Catherine is one of the good guys. Anyone who wants to get a sense of who she is, should read her story at the following link: http://www.dunwalke.com/
She really blows the lid on the criminal conspiracy that is the US govt and big business. You can also see her interviewed by Aaron Russo in his movie – America: Freedom to Fascism, link – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
This is where I first discovered Austin Fitts. It is when you come across people like her, that you get heart that there are still some people around our western nations that have a sense of morality and Godliness and that perhaps not all hope is lost just yet.
Agree with you and thanks for the link. It’s a great read for those that haven’t read it.
I met my girl in Lancashire – when I just knew I was going to be blown away and was..She had a job…I had lost mine…so we became friends..I had nowt…so she borrowed her sisters tent…in 1981…she said she was going To Stonehenge Free Festival with her Friends..I burst into tears – am I not invited??..she said O.K. you can come too
There was just the two of us..
So I says will you Marry me…
What you??? Yeh O.K.
So we did – eventually – well she gave up her life and all her friends in Lancashire to move to London with me…in 1982
We are Still Together and Still in Love in 2016
And We will be Grandparents very soon
So I wrote this just now…when We got home from the pub
She is a bit of an angel and everyone could see how much I am in love with her – and her with me…they could see our eyes whilst we were both independently flirting and making new friends – and I was calling her Grannie…
She just looked and is So Warm and Beautiful…
We walked home together – and I tried to write – I love you on a frozen windscreen.
We aren’t Grandparents yet – but anytime soon
The Band and The Audience were Brilliant Too
So I asked The Question of The Scottish Guy
The guy singing and playing guitar…
I had already asked my mate
I was really surprised at the response
What do you Reckon – In or Out of The EU??
Regardless of their political colours
They all said OUT
Even The Scottish
Tony
I think this comment is Off Topic. Please post OT comments in Moveable Feast Cafe.
The issue arises, and i would love to get some insight into this:
How does one explain that lies that oversimplify or are based on oversimplifications make everything more complicated.
Whereas truths that explain complicated things actually make things a lot simpler.
Katherine
From personal experience I would think you need to create a reality based on lies and ever more lies to mask over the old lies a whole new world based on lies created out of your own imagination or the imagination of others, like imperialism.. While in truth there is just one reality, the one you understand and believe in. Now notice I said reality.. Truth can have many realities as well, not all of them in concert with what really happened. But since it is one you understand and your perception of things don’t change easily unless you have an epiphany, it is consistent. An epiphany is when you realize your reality has changed because your perceptions have changed. And then you believe in a new truth. Overall I have found that truth does not change, details might.. But what happened, happens and will happen no matter what and it could not have happened any other way.. Morpheus in matrix said this a lot better..
And Donald dumbfield gave a great explanation of lies.. and distorted reality..
In essence there are people who’s perceptions match because we us humans experience things similarly. And there are people who force this perception to change based on fantasy, usually as lord and savior.. Enlightenment by Buddha is where you realize there is but one truth and you are closer to it as much as possible. But we know matter can exist in multiple realities and in multiple states all at the same time. How Buddha might compromise here is a question we can all ask him when we meet him.
They are meant to do that,Katherine. If you knew left from right,up from down,… than you would not be an easy target for manipulation. It goes well with “sweet lies and bitter truths”. Muddying the waters. Otherwise they will be exposed.
When someone tells you something is complicated,in my experience, that person is either ignorant on the subject (irrelevant of their education or position) or is planning to use you. In either case your safest bet is to avoid them altogether ,and if you can, oppose their agenda if they are positioned or are positioning themselves as your representatives,because it is you who will be paying their ignorance or dishonest intent.
Nice interview Saker. I am getting an impression that submarines are now sprouting even outside the deserts and started “infesting” the fields. Keep up the fertilizing!
Thanks for the responses.
My post was prompted by the discussion, in which the subject comes up of the lies promulgated by the west, based on oversimplifications and unspecified ideologies—creating greater complexity and confusion. More compliatoins.
Whereas the information that takes into account the complexity of things, actually leads to a reduction of complications. That was my point.
I was not really thinking in terms of the spiritual realm. I am not particularly spiritual . . . Just want to understand political and perceptual dynamics better.
Katherine
Very amusing bit by The Saker: substituting currency backed by gold for currency backed by aircraft carrier. And another one: take the dollar price we offer or we will blow you to smithereens. Very amusing Saker.
Why did Obama et al allow the Iran deal? And who has lowered the price of oil that benefits only some? And how does China fit in all this?
USA single handily destroys giant asteroid heading to earth to wipe out man kind, saving us all..
Oh wait, it was not the coalition but a Hollywood movie.. and is the second time taking credit for the SyAF wiping out high level nato operatives inside IS.
Deir-ez-Zor Province
Syrian air force killed one of the most dangerous ISIS terrorist leaders, one Mudallah Al-Rabi’aa (pseudonym Abu Ahmad). Having learned of an ISIS meeting being held in Albu-kamal in southern Deir-ez-Zor province, SAA leadership directed SAAF to launch an airstrike at the location of the meeting.
Other individuals eliminated included several high-ranking field terrorist commanders and Abu-Ahmad’s terrorist associates. He used to head ISIS terrorist administration of the city of Mohassan.
PDF transcript: I am not going to correct typos that are intuitive but, to avoid confusion, feel that the name of the book needs correction. It is “The Essential Saker” not “Essential Sacred”
From near the end of the transcript:
“You can get the book which is called Essential Sacred from Amazon or directly from the publisher, Nimble Books.
Enjoyed reading PDF version. I figure that they used speech to text software judging from the types of mistakes (e.g. trader instead of traitor).
Yes, it looks like a machine did this transcript. If no, I do not know how in the Earth The Saker could be named as “Military Journalist” in Europe, his book as “Essential Sacred” and those words of Obama about the exceptionalism of the US becoming “The dispensable nation”. The last sounding like a joke indeed…..
Elsi,
Yes, I saw that ‘dispensable nation’ one and put it in the ‘intuitively obvious section’.
Besides that it is, of course, far too good to correct!
Russia, China, India, Iran, Syria and many others -especialy the EU- take note.
Sanctuary
Dear Saker
For people who have interest in geopolitics it does not matter, but those who are novice in this field it might be confusing. In PDF there is an error.
SAKER: Sure. The 1990’s were truly an apocalyptic period for Russia because
basically what happened was that the Soviet Union didn’t break up. It
was broken up by Soviet elites, people linked to the Nomenklatura, the
high level party, and they split up the Soviet Union into 50 republics.
There were not 50 but 15 republics.
Congratulations on great work
.
What is the music at the beginning and the end?
J.S. Bach: Prelude, From Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 1 In G Major, BWV 1007
(made a bit more famous by being one of tunes on the “Master and Commander” film.
Big thanks! I don’t like Bach in general, so I had some problems with identifying it. But it sounds very familiar. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for putting this interview up.
Catherine Austin Fitts is definitely one of my favourite people to listen to, and of course I have been coming to this site for understanding of what is going on now.
I admire you both very much.
Thank you to CAF for allowing this interview to be put up on your site for free.
Dear Saker,
Great interview but you should’ve asked her about the “secret space program”.
lb is right. William F Engdahl and Joseph P Farrell would be good to interview.
Also be good to interview Richard Dolan, Robert Hastings and Steven Greer about the UFO phenomenon and coverup.
See the interview involving Catherine Austin Fitts, Farrell and Dolan on the Internet.
This stuff matters and relates to both geopolitics and theology.
Medvedev wasn’t joking: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo
That was a brilliant interview. Thank you.
most beautiful colour coordinated alternative blog of the century goes to saker’s for today’s combination of the golden yellows of ukraine sitrep and madonna background, the blue of the mountains of the saker – (those pale green turquoise lower slopes and indigo foreground..) – the warm skin colour of Peter Koenig, the mauve of the Catherine Fitts, the orange of the “You guys are the best – thank you!!” and that dark, suave suave lavrov suit. excellent.
excuse not to comment on the interview, but am no further than colour admiration so far…
On a subject of dropping oil price allegedly destroying Russian economy – or it’s miraculous resilience, depending on your point of view:
On one of the Kaiser Report shows about 2 months ago, they showed the chart showing the impact of falling oil price for various countries. For western countries the drops are almost catastrophic since their oil price is denominated in US dollars. But for Russia, who produces its’ own oil and gas, the drop in state revenue is 0.7% when denominated in Rubles. Why? Because the dollar being artificially inflated and hence it appears that Ruble is falling, they don’t even notice the price drop.
When you couple that with sanctions forcing Russia to greatly accellerate its’ own agricultural and industrial production to achieve self-sufficiency, you get a result of massive farmer protests all around Europe, and yet none of the panic in Russia. Yes, Russia could have used few more years to get along with its’ plans for self-sufficiency, but its’ economy is far from ruin, as the west claims.
Of course, western elites who don’t understand their own economic system will keep touting the sanctions as a great victory over the aggressor etc. Tell that to the French and Italian farmers and German industrial manufacturers. By the time sanctions are lifted, 40% of them will be bankrupt and even the ones who survive won’t be selling much to Russia, simply because she won’t need anything.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot…
Huffington saker next…..
RR
It seems to me – whoever is an enemy of Russia receives title “West”. During the Cold War 1.0 Pakistan was “west” too. In American eyes Saudi Arabia is “west” too.
Saker, you mentioned Iran, and being wrong regarding the invasion that seemed about to happen , 3 or4yrs ago When a massive force seemed pretty much ready to go. i have my own opinions as to why they backed off but Id be very interested in yours. I too was sure it was about to get very messy there. But it didnt. Why?
At two points in the interview Austin Fitts brings up the fact that Russia getting its own GPS nexus operational in 2011 was a game changer in that it enabled Russia to challenge and compete with the US when it comes to international money trading, or finances or something. I didn’t quite get it, I don’t understand what she was trying to highlight, and what’s more, The Saker apparently didn’t catch on to it either.
Does anyone know what this is all about?
It seemed important as a possible black hole in our understanding of the big picture.
1)
In the old times, the powers who controlled the seas were the powers who controlled global banking. Now that banking has gone totally electronic, the sea has been replaced by space, and ships by satellites.
2)
The US happens to ‘distort’ its GPS satellite’s signals in conflict zones. Having your own, more precise GLONASS system handy proves to be very useful under such circumstances.
Thank you Saker,
that was a very enjoyable and interesting read. I do however have to say, that i hope you are very very wrong considering your view on Europe. I would rather die defending my country, Austria, than flee. I mean…my ancestors haven´t fought war after war to defeat the Ottoman Empire to just flee and open up everything for radical Islamists these days.
The same goes for this EU and US slaves that we call politicans. Make no mistake, many if not most people here are feed up with this situation. That´s why they are back-paddling now on their “welcome policy” (to hell with Merkel), lying thru their teeth in the mainstream media (not very successfully mind you) and Brussel tries to push laws to de-arm the people. They are in panic mode because they fear they will lose their power or worse that the people will turn on them.
Which is pretty much what Generals in several countries, including here and Switzerland meant in my opinion when they were talking about possible civil unrest and that the people should arm themselves.
The EU was never meant to strengthen Europe, it was meant to do the opposite, just like the Euro. It was also not a European idea but an US based one. Easier to control, well, that experiment was doomed to fail from day one, guess i will live thru the times when it breaks apart again, for the better or the worse. We will see.
Yes cirdanx, also called my attention The Saker saying that if he would live in Europe he would flee.
But I was wondering to where? To the US? But is not all going to collapse there?
There is no other place to flee except Russia, I guess……
That´s the point. The US themself are heading for a financial colapse, you can´t just print money forever. That´s impossible.
Considering how dependent the US is on imports now, what will happen then? What will happen to cities where millions live when their wallmart shelves are empty? The thing is, Europe is the biggest markt, thats true, but we also produce stuff. This is why farmers from every field are up on arms now because we exported all that stuff to Russia.
Even the US isn´t really united, every so often the south, especialy Texas thinks loudly about independence. Considering the history of their “independence war” i can´t blame them either. I wouldn´t want to live in the US when they go down the toilette.
Maybe i´m wrong and the Saker is right, i don´t know. But even if we consider a mostly Europe wide civil war. I doubt this would go in favor of a united Europe under one rule in the end. National pride, based on national history is too strong, even when i agree with him that Europe is weak, but as i see it, this it the influence of Washington, because they want to keep their vassals.
And make no mistake, Europe is not free, he is right when he says that Washington has the saying here. This is the problem. The Americans never left, the Russians did. This is a historical fact. I ate up every history book i could find since i was a child because its interesting. I´m not claiming to be an expert but it´s a fact, that the so called allies definied the boards and political parties that now exist in Europe.
I´m not talking about WW2 by the way, this started with WW1. The treaty of versailles was a lot but not a peace contract. It´s purpose was WW2, i mean read it, its funtion was to destroy the “losers” and strengthen the winners of WW1. It could only lead to WW2. This isn´t only the fault of the US it´s also the fault of the continental powers of Europe, namely the UK and France at first. Or does anyone think it´s just a convenience that after WW1 four empires fell?
Read the speech of Larov that is here on this site..he understands this as well, he even mentioned it.
The Austrian-Hungary empire was tricked into a conflict with Serbia, because it was known that Russia would react. What most ignore though is the following…for Austria this was an internal conflict with Serbia, and no one in Austria wanted that war, in fact only ONE general pressed for it, a certain general with close ties to England..ups, Sounds familiar right? Because the Russian Tsar had no interest in conflict either. Yet his advisors, the same people who betrayed him afterwards pushed for a war against Austria-Hungary.
The results are well know. The Tsar family fell, Austria-Hungary fell. Germany fell, and not for the good. And then? UK and France were still there. The only real two empires left on Europe who impossed a peace contract that plundered the other side and their people. This in return paved the road to the next war.
I don´t need to repeat what came next, despite a lot of lies. Hitler was a cunt, but so was Stalin and so was the US. There was no good vs evil. All sides were monsters for their own benefit. But the US didn´t came as liberators, they came as conqueres. Just look at the theft they have commited from the germans, which in return allowed them to gain the technolical edge and became the world power they are now, or better were.
They came along with NATO and the EU was also an US idea. I mean for fucking sake (sorry) does anyone really believe it´s just a convenience that the director of the ECB is a Goldman Sachs man? Really?
The forced NATO and EU integration has been a topic here several times so no need to go into it. But keep that in mind with all of history and you will see that this is not just accidents, as the destruction of Yugoslavia was also not one, which quite frankyl, was a european success story until they got bombed to shit. The message was clear, as long as the EU and the US has the power in Europe, there will be no success story anymore, no Yugoslavia, no other empire (they literally forced Austria to sign that we will never make an alliance again…).
This is the problem in Europe, we are vassals who can´t decide for themselves. But the more the “West” (i hate that term but i see it as USA) goes on a war path with the East…the more you will have opposition against it. We do see this today, the people abondon western main stream media in droves. They vote for national parties, and please, don´t be an idiot and think right = Nazi. Not only is that stupid but also a fucking lie. It´s the same nonsense as Hillary Clinton comparing Putin with Hitler. It doesn´t hold up.
What we would need is a de-americanisation. A breakup of NATO wouldn´t be bad either ;)
But i can´t see either of this happen, not in the near future anyway. On the other side, history tells us, that things can happen fast, realisticly it would just take Turkey under an clearly insane Erdogan to attack Russia, and Nato is finished. Not because Russia would destroy them, because there is no way, no threat Washington could speak out, that every NATO country would follow Turkey into a war with Russia. This is not going to happen. Never.
The dream scenario would be…and some of this is happening right now….that the “right” parties gain a lot of votes (happening), the industry and economic factions are protesting against this and trying to push the politics in the direction of russia (happening but with marginal success), the people voting against that shit (happening), protesting (happening), down with the EU and Euro…(well thats a difficult subject but it is happening).
The point is…i will challenge the Saker on the notion that all of europe is the same but i agree with being slaves to the US, but that makes us two….both EU and Russia was plundered, it took a man like Putin to try to stop it and he was successful in some aspects, not all. We don´t need a Putin here, we need several ;)
Ugh sorry for the rant… but i felt like it..
No need to apologize. A good rant!
Please provide documentation for your assertion: “it was also not a European idea but an US based one”.
Sure. i would take a closer look at the Aldrich original wich is linked, sums it up:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-03/european-union-was-american-idea
From a historic perspective this has been mentioned before of course, but you need to pay attention on WHO did that and what their motives were:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe
Dig a bit and you suddenly realize that this was not realy an idea, though wished by the reamaing powers, of Europe, thats my point.
And the invention of the Euro did exactly what it was mean to do. shift money from the rich countries to the..banks…in the name of the poor ones. You don´t even have to dig, the whole system is clear if you have two brain cells in your head.
Thank you. Your statement did drive me towards doing some investigation myself. You are absolutely correct, I must first state.
I discovered a few resources, more reliable than wiki, which validate your statement. CIA involvement in creating what became the EU and its currency union, the EURO.
Again thank you for your comments.
Excuse me for failing to mention the Zero Hedge article you provided a link for. It prompted further investigation of available USG documents; where much evidence was availble in support of the ZH article. Again, thanks.
It’s great that you interviewed with Catherine Austin Fitts. She has a widespread following and a reputation for common sense – one of my favorites! She appears on Coast-to-Coast-AM occasionally, and they have a big radio audience (it’s not all UFOs and Big Foot – they get political and financial guests, too).
It would also be nice if you had an interview with John Batchelor. He is right wing and sometimes a little too Russophobic, but he also has guests like Professor Stephen Cohen.
Nice to hear that more sensible people are showing up on the radio talk shows. I hope it is the beginning of a trend.
catherine austin fitts is a charmer and like someone remarked earlier has a big radio audience, so i think it is very helpful for the saker’s point of view to get exposure in that circle.
she is bright, pragmatic and optimistic, but not at all a knowall..i haven’t a clue how well she serves her subscribers on solari, i hope she does well on that front, but i disagree with her theory of the undying dollar and much like the saker strongly suggested, the US military arm is limited – certainly not unmatched for the task of forcing the dollar down everyone throat for much longer.
so, i cannot see how else could she substantiate her theory? on what economic movements when evrerything in the US points to stagnation? on quadrillions of funds arising from the ‘black budget’ ms fitts is discussing with various radio hosts? i am not belitteling her theory or the hosts, i would like to see more substance to her supposition. is she implying that the proceeds of the ‘black budget’ investment would somehow strenghten the US failing military effectiveness, put the dollar and the US economy back on track? how would that work?
in her recent interview with the daniel lizst, aka dark journalist, fitts critisised various false memes among alternative media outlets. she did it very thoroughly and charmingly giggled throughout, but in the last quarter of the broadcast introduced her own i might add fishy meme with regards to the ‘underground canals/deposits in syria over which everyone is fighting now. she implied the russian as well as american@co bombing campaign has much to do with that important fact. she failed however to elaborate and left it at that. most disappointing and regretfully threw herself into the same lot of the group she was so critical of cor the most part of that broadcast. i voiced my concern in the comment area – but it got deleted the same evening..i never went back to relisten, in fact i am a lot less interested in what austin fitts has to say these days.
like i said earlier, i am glad the saker got a chance to offer missing pieces of a big picture that many in the alternative and other media think they see.
best regards
I agree interviews with John Batchelor and Stephen F Cohen would be great.
But MEJ, don’t disparage the UFO/ET phenomenon. Catherine Austin Fitts own investigation has her giving credibility to this. The coverup is real as attested to by former head of the US Federal Aviation Authority accidents investigation dept, John Callahan, former chief British defence, Lord Admiral Hill-Norton, the generals, admirals and astronomers from the French Space Agency’s investigation into UFOs “Cometa report”, Chile’s military, PM Medvedev of Russia, numerous military personnel from NATO and Warsaw Pact that UFOs disrupted nuclear weapons systems on both sides numerous times. Robert Hastings is a researcher who has collated over 140 of these accounts and would be worth interviewing- http://www.ufohastings.com
Steven Greer is another researcher who has 100’s witness accounts – http://www.siriusdisclosure.com
Richard Dolan is a historian of the Cold War and secret services. He stumbled into the UFO/ET field and has brought his impeccable analytical skills to it. Google his many interviews and his books on the national security state.
There are a few NASA whistleblowers of a long standing coverup and Photoshopping and airbrushing of artificial structures on Moon and in space, at least three astronauts who’ve stated there’s a coverup – Cooper, Mitchell, O’Leary. Armstrong and Aldrin both made cryptic comments and were somewhat tortured souls after returning from the moon. Plenty of people with nothing else to do but pick up anomalies in live NASA feeds and countless pictures from Moon and Mars.
This topic is no longer one for ridicule and dismissal.
You can choose to ridicule and ignore it, but as declassified CIA document from 50s would show you are simply giving in to the main strategy of the coverup.
What do UFOs/ETs/SecretSpaceProgram have to do with geopolitics, war, financial domination, theology and essentially a struggle of good and evil – it seems they are a central issue. But open your minds and research for yourselves.
Peter from Oz, how did your research into the topic further your understanding of history of humanity? how enhanced is your grasp of reality as a result?
this question is sincere, by no means cynical..thanks
The clear facts are (1) UFO phenomenon is very real and not explicable by usual explanations. (2) There has been and is a concerted cover-up. (3) some groups and individuals can summon UFOs with meditation ( see the videos, quite astounding, eg ECETI with James Gilliland, CE5 with Stephen Greer – I was with him and group when a UFO light appeared – and others). (4) there are artificial structures on moon. (5) UFOs interfered with nuclear weapons on both sides of Cold War with vastly superior technology than either side, hence almost certainly ET.
As to testimony re ancient aliens theory and genetic experiments on us and other species on this planet and rise and fall of civilisations within solar system over a much longer period of time than mainstream archaeology accepts – planetary war between Mars and planet that is now asteroid belt – maybe. Interesting testimonies by alleged insiders from Secret Space Program – research “Corey Goode, Randy Cramer, David Wilcock).
Mythology has a lot of interesting data – as Joseph P Farrell describes. Graham Hancock presents evidence of submerged cities ( near Sri Lanka, near Cuba) that don’t fit archaeological timelines in current paradigm.
goode, willcocks are embarrissingly the FLOPS of the alternative et theory. they fail to substantiate anything..willcock is dreaming that his dreams are in some way significant and goode is fantasising over his fantasies..no meat to it whatsoever..just their personal accounts if you are prepared to buy it. they are also flogging crockery and books on their respective websites from what i undarstand.. so, i am sorry, but no – that is all gibberish.except of course graham hanckock who offers a viable theory based on extensive documentation.
but that still does not change one iota. from history, we can see that ufo have been depicted as of medieval times: on fresco, panel and canvas paintings..and sooooo..how does a confirmation that they exist change anything or advances our knowledge about human origins? going on records so far, one can assume that they , the ufo occupants are helping with keeping the lid on their operations on our planet.
i am not impressed with their track record.
if they are colluding with our elites: financial, military and political, well, that’s another matter and if true, it only reaffirms my reservation towards them.i.e. i would like them to leave, go away asap.
their presence is not helping human empowerment, on the contrary: chances are that military complex is hellbent on financing reverse engineering of et technology, imposing forever more and more misery and poverty on tax paying public..just so our earthly elites can keep up with the jones’.
we can do better than that.
One thing that was mentioned in the interview comes at odds with what I’m reading in a Putin biography by Norwegian russologist Bjørn Nistad. He writes that Putin was stationed in East Germany, in one city (not Berlin) only. This makes me wonder about the statements in the interview about Putin’s superb perspective on Western thinking because of his history as an intelligence agent stationed in Europe.
He was in Dresden if I know wright.
Thanks to both participants in this interesting discussion. It reminded me of what I have heard about the composition of a concerto, that the best ones are those in which the solist and the orchestra perform as equal partners. Much was given from the store of knowledge of each, and it is always refreshing when a question cannot be answered – so many times in other interview situations either the interviewee launches into an ‘answer’ that has nothing to do with the question, or the interviewer uses questions like hatchets to carve a notch in an unresponsive tree. Neither of these happened here.
Did people notice Austin Fitts mentioning the USS Donald Cook incident and Russia’s electronic blackout in Syria? These are “new” technologies being introduced on the global battlefield.
Considering the incredibly high stakes for the entrenched US hawks, should we not be more pro-active in analyzing possible black swan scenarios, such as US special forces blowing up the Mosul Dam or more introduction of secret technologies that up until now have only been discussed in conspiracy forums, not in forums discussing geopolitics?
This seems crazy stuff possibly involving the Russian president:
http://exopolitics.org/is-russia-using-weapons-developed-with-extraterrestrial-help-in-syrian-civil-war/
But consider the Russian PMs comments:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xUIz4lt6G00
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zHCSpm2kepo
sounds like belittling russian engineers’ intellect and potential …and/or introducing a new fear meme. which makes me not want to consider further reading. exopolitics site is full of disinfo content offered as means of distraction.
it’s inconclusive whether medvedev referred to actual reality or the russian tv show with the same title – in jest.
Sorry that post was also from me and must’ve flicked back to anonymous. That Exopolitics site is Michael Salla Ph.D. And appears reputable and well meaning.
Medvedev has odd dead pan humour if that’s case – if you watch both interviews it seems unlikely he was joking despite the female journalist reaction. The Russian documentary “men in black” is very serious re ETs and on YouTube with English subtitles.
Really enjoyed the interview. Hope you do more. Thanks.
Wonderful interview, and both the Saker and Catherine have my upmost respect. However, without having knowledge of the old 1889 book “The Great Red Dragon: Foreign Money Power in the United States,” you’ll never be able to put two and two together. 99% of Russians are decent people; 99% of Americans are decent people, and that goes for the rest of the world, too. We all have a common enemy, and until THAT enemy is addressed, nothing will change. Good people will continue to have to fight good people. The sociopathic 1% will see to that. Had the author been in Russia, the old book might have been titled “The Great Red Dragon: Foreign Money Power in Russia.” It could also be “The Great Red Dragon: Foreign Money Power In China. I make nothing from my web site nor the original 1889 book, which is on-line via University of California. I just want good people to stop fighting each other, and know who is their real enemy.
Excellent interaction and thanks for sharing !!
Starting @ 46:17 Catherine asks Saker about the immigrant crisis and the source / root of it and who is financing it and he says “The short answer and honest one would be I don’t know” … he knows and it’s threatening enough that he says he doesn’t know.
Thank you for this interview.
Very interesting. Catherine strikes one as very fine lady.
This interview, being read parallel with listening, was an adventure to me. The pauses and emphasizes of the Saker touched my heart as sometimes did Catherine’s replies.
For my “clientele” among the Saker – commenters (sensible to essays in astrological understanding) I offer an overview over the time from 6.2015 to 1.2016.
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.de/2014/12/berlin-kiew-and-russia-in-next-7-months.html
(The following one is in progress).
Yes the interview is deeply satisfying as well as a wonderfully calibrated dance of words and concepts that need to be so experienced and done by as many of us well enough informed of the issues and committed to solving them. To engage in debates and questions such as here is a delight and and comfort beyond comfort….as we debate nothing less that the survival of our species. The US has been secretly altering the human species to create whole countries and continents of passive members of US hegemonic colonies. Mrs. William Clinton knows in detail the plans to remake the human DNA by the use of interactive brain chips first developed by Nazi Germany, tested with care on the Holocaust prisons, later by the US on US prisoners for over 50 years. Now, today, the US is testing the brain interactive chips by secretly implanting them in newborns being ‘chipped’ in their soft sculls as they emerge from the birth canal..from Britain to the farthest regions of Asia and Africa. The chips cause a form of autism and are being developed on each newborn so implanted, the data going to NSA in Utah, USA. Each country allowing this use of their citizens loses their ethical status as a civil entity. Exactly what the US intends. Dark ages barbarism intended.
As to the murky backdrop to world power that enables so much abnormal activity with such ease, I am sure I know I am able to figure out where that comes from and who it is and why. But am myself terrified of putting my targeted debates into words that will figure out the spoken, written, answers..
Every big problem has it’s answers at the core of it. You just have to dig, often for generations.
Saker is Russian, He will not have seen America as I have since 1940. He seems not to know that the US aim is to remake human identity, to what extent it will go to try to accomplish this. An insane attempt. Mrs William Clinton knows and killed the US Ambassador in Benghazi with CIA instructions
that leaked his position to the be-headers her mails going out from an unsecured sender because somehow he found out everything. An honest Christian man, the CIA shrink evaluation of him was he would go public using his position of US power. Kill him as if by accident in a rebel attack. He might also have found out that 9/11 was a US Government set up to remove all law. Anyone who found out and speak of it (how can we not?) are to be eliminated with our families as well as all the records we ever existed. My Netherlands family goes back 800 years. The valid private record of that history was given by my enraged American mother to the US CIA in order to help then bring down Europe, destroy it. I am being slowly assassinated as I warn Netherlanders the of suicidal passive moves they are using in response to US unending demands now they are ensconced in Amsterdam, all US corporations represented in our capital city. Each corporation has it’s own private mafia, but the record of our Dutch family business goes back to 1695. My birth name representing that family partnership known with great respect before WW1 and WW11, I am safe in Amsterdam, but no-where else… Dad warned the War Queen not to start the Bilderberg Group as America would use it to take over Europe. Exactly where Europe is now. The US CIA is sure it owns Europe today. Maybe, maybe not. So, I see things differently from the Saker. I do not think he is safe living in Florida, USA, or anywhere, USA.
The US intelligence services shrinks are sure I can be so terrified I can be convinced to join in the structure of active European/Russian dismemberment….besides killing me here could harm US interests badly. So, writing here under my family name, a family known to have been adding to Holland, England, Ireland and Scotland hundreds of years before we set up a Genever gin distillery near Rotterdam means I and my sons, one killed in 2013, belong. (My first son was US denied his passport when he was ready to move here last September.) Netherlanders loved it’s Christian Royalty, so young as a governing system, but from it’s heartland, and Dad with his sister was brought up with the young Princess Wilhelmiena, who, as WW 11 Queen, asked Dad what he thought
of her Bilderberg Group idea for peace. He warned her that the US would use it to take over Europe. She listened, her daughter as Queen set the group up and then gave it to the US CIA. At least 20 family members from both sides of the Atlantic have been assassinated. Ambitious, mad, Bush 1, for one year head of the US CIA, began the targeted Dutch deaths his first year in elected supreme office.
US is now a killing machine since NATO was set up to control the globe. The last two Presidents non-entities chosen to do what they were told. Royalty across Europe has been silenced. The process to remove their histories from them is ongoing, school books, history books being altered.
How long I have I do not know, but I survived two attempts to kill me in 2015, more of them before that, so I write to densely, too much. As if late to catch a train.
This woman is either insane or part of the Deep State disinformation brigade. In this video, she claims that we are on the verge of becoming a “multi-planetary civilization.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kdIKQDorng
Oh, Fitts was also on John B. Wells’ Caravan to Midnight. Judging from the comments, 1/3 of the audience grew up on Coast to Coast.