From the website of the US Gauleiter in Kiev, Petro Poroshenko: “We will attack and liberate our land“. And attack they sure did. Below is the report which Juan has just sent me.
The Saker
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The situation deteriorated. Kramatorsk is being flattened by intense bombardment. The ukes are using everything they have including gas and multiple Grad and Hurricane salvos.
04:00 Heavy armor moving on Kramatorsk. A full regiment including main battle tanks.
05:00 Sukhoi aircraft attacks started Kramatorsk. Reports one has been shot down, not confirmed.
05:30 Intense fighting has commenced outskirts Kramatorsk. Tactical situations unknown.
06:45 Heavy civilian casualties reported Kramatorsk. Civilian living areas are targeted. One hospital has been hit and is burning. Casualties unknown in hospital. One 7 floor flats building has collapsed. Casualties unknown.
Slavyansk and outlying villages and towns are under heavy bombardment from Karachun Mountain. Civilian living areas targeted. Reports two flats buildings burning. Reports 2 hospitals including children hospital hit multiple times. Heavy casualties reported at hospitals, unconfirmed.
03:20 Counter batter fire from Army Novorossiya has knocked down 110 m high radio/TV tower on Karachun Mountain (second party visual confirmation). Nazis had observation platforms on the tower. Unknown if platforms manned at time of destruction.
Confirmed Air Defense unit A-1402 taken by Army Novorossiya. Condition of air defense missile systems and related targeting and control systems unknown 07:10. Additional ordinance supply for systems unknown in quantity or quality.
Real time communication with Slavyansk and Donetsk City lost 03:20 today.
Donetsk City outlying areas coming under artillery fire. 04:30.
There was no ‘cease fire’. During the slight decrease of hostilities of the last week the Nazis used the time to send massive reinforcements and supplies to Novorossiya and positioned their units for the assaults extant this morning. Strong attempts were made by Nazi units to disrupt humanitarian aid and gifts coming across the Russia/Novorossiya borders.
The preplanned in the event of capture demolition of the military park in Donetsk is destroying a large ammunition, weapon and equipment store destined for the 5th Column right sector units in Donetsk City.
Juan
Praying for you guys.
May the spirit of Russia uphold and defend you, and may the right prevail.
I keep hoping that Russia will find a way to direct a few fuel air explosives on the artillery located on Karachun mountain who are targetting the civilians in the town.
США там правят бал. Указание Парубия, координатора снайперов-убийц “Небесной сотни” в Киеве и бойни в Одессе, исполнил канал “Интер” (The U.S. there running the show. Note Parubiy, coordinator of snipers-killers “Heavenly hundreds” in Kiev and the massacre in Odessa, performed the “inter”channel)
http://anna-news.info/node/17781 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/anna-news.info/node/17781
“Videolottery to quote from previously published ANNA-NEWS of the secret orders Parubiy on the preparation of provocations:
“…During the phone talk with the acting Minister of defense Mavilim agreed to hold mock seizures of weapons from the separatists, allegedly supplied from Russia. Koval invited to play combat officers and soldiers of the National Guard with terrorists, resulting supposedly will be captured samples of weapons, with clear signs of belonging to the military units of the armed forces of the Russian army. He has already started preparing the data of weapons.”
When you try to solve a problem, sometimes you need to go to basic and RE-verify AXIOMS. It’s the foundation of LOGIC thinking. I would like to understand a few things:
1. Why, in more than 10 years since Putin got the power, Russia didn’t develop a local industry which will use the natural gas to create value added products ? Maybe is because, after all, Putin is really incompetent when it comes to economics ? Maybe he is also easy to blackmail be the western countries because his daughters are not living in Russia (same as Lavrov daugher) ?
2. Why is Putin not preparing a successor already ? He is over 60’s. I know his body looks young, but I’m afraid his mind is
old (it’s NATURAL and there is nothing you can do). RUSSIA needs an AGGRESSIVE young leader right now. Someone who calls “mutty Adolfina Merkel” every second day to ask for permission is a joke and a sell-out. What Putin does lately with all those phone calls is absolutely HUMILIATING for the Russian nation !!!
3. Why is Russia still using dollars and why is Russia a member of the BIS bank from Basel ???? This could also be question number 1.
4. Why is Russia still aggressive against eastern European nations that could actually be strong allies with them ?
5. Why is Russia acting as if they follow they have a role in the CLASSICAL HEGELIAN DIALECTIC ????????????
6. Is there huge corruption in Russia or not ???? Don’t LIE !!! How many of you , the readers, would move there ????
7. Did Putin receive as a gift a YACHT from Abramovici or not ????
8. Is Putin involved in the SOGAS company through some relatives or not ? Is Putin a real christian or a crypto-jew ?
9. I am still a believer in Putin, but this is why I am very harsh on him: because if he is a fake saviour, we are all DOOMED !!!! The effort he places in pleasing western european nation is baffling me !!! All that f.. ing money that Russia is investing in gas pipelines could have been better used in some gas based factory (like fertilizer producer). Yet, mister fu..cking smart PUTIN that we all admire has a policy of sending all the natural to Germans and he gives no shit about abous developing something in Eastern Europe !!!
Well, good luck for Putin for su..cking the german dick and pissing on the heads of eastern european nations. When right time will come, russians will be very surprised why no eastern european nation is not on their side !!!
Russians … Keep treating eastern europeans like shit and stab them in the back … but don’t be surprised later on.
3. The Bank for International Settlements provides the standard for risk management in finance.
That’s why Russia is a member.
Best wishes
Anonymous in Finland
RT just ran some eyewitness voice overs from reporters’ from Kramatorsk. It is being hit very, very hard with mortar shelling. Still no assault.
The Ukies may be amassing enormous armor columns to move at Kramatorsk but they are timid so far.
I think they know their losses will be large.
I believe they understand that anti-tank missiles are waiting for them, and plenty of RPG’s. Which puts the tank crew outside on the ground and those guys don’t have any fight in them.
An army that won’t engage is a craven group. I believe the leadership from Russian volunteers is waiting for targets to roll closer.
Hezbollah held off the IDF and demoralized the Israelis in 2006. A good plan, determination and several well-placed anti-tank rounds stopped a far superior army.
Novorossiya is fighting for its land, its liberty and with God in their hearts.
I pray tonight for them to hold and strike when the moment is best. The tanks they face are nothing compared to the IDF tanks Hezbollah faced.
All of the Russian TV channels are cut off in Canada
How many casualties will the Russian populace tolerate? Chemical weapons have already been used. Suppose the Kiev regime uses DU? In a sense of course the Russian state can let these people be slaughtered, denounce it, and continue to wage war in another way. On the other hand, like Vietnam in reverse, TV programming regarding the killing has to fan the flames of anger. Of course the Russian analysis of the psychological effects of the killing are factored into all decisions Putin makes and I wonder what the number is that requires action? Is the death of 5,000 people the trip wire? More? Will it require an actual incursion into Russia to trigger the response?
Anonymous 5:20 said Russian TV channels off-air in Canada.
Not true, RT on air. No internet disruptions either.
GBLMK said…01 July, 2014 05:17
The way you worded your point #1 exposed what you are. (What you wrote before that was meaningless drivel.)
OT, but literally reflecting the same Jewish mafia mentality that is Novorossia.
Profiteering on Banker Deaths: Regulator Says Public Has No Right to Details
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/06/profiteering-on-banker-deaths-regulator-says-public-has-no-right-to-details/
“A man with a long history of keeping big bank secrets safe from the public’s prying eyes has denied the appeal filed by Wall Street On Parade to obtain specifics about the worker deaths upon which JPMorgan Chase pockets the life insurance money each year.
According to its financial filings, as of December 31, 2013, JPMorgan held $17.9 billion in Bank-Owned Life Insurance (BOLI) assets, a dark corner of the insurance market that allows banks to take out life insurance policies on their workers, secretly pocket the death benefits, and receive generous tax perks subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer. According to experts, JPMorgan could potentially hold upwards of $179 billion of life insurance in force on its current and former workers, based on the size of its BOLI assets…”
Стрелков рассказал о химической атаке украинских военных (Shooters told about the chemical attack of the Ukrainian military)
http://lifenews.ru/news/135850 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/lifenews.ru/news/135850
“According to the chief of the army DND, per night in hospital with symptoms of poisoning have three militias.
The chief of the army of the South-East Igor Strelkov confirmed the use of the Ukrainian army chemical weapons. In his words, during the day, under the Slavic poisoned three people. He added that, if the militia was not masks, victims would be much more.
On 29 June, two people were poisoned in Semenovka. Immediately after the start of shelling of ammunition with a chemical substance, the use of which is formed clouds of toxic gas, the way the militia began to wear gas masks. If we were not equipped with individual protection means, the number of victims would be much more, ” said Shooters.
He said that the gas attack on militia cannot be called a “timid attempts”. According to Strelkova, it is targeted attacks. During one of these attacks at the roadblock near the armature-insulator plant suffered militiaman, who hadn’t managed to put on a gas mask. Shooters added that in DND there was no truce, despite the reached with Kiev on 23 June agreement.
– We have a truce and was not as such. Full-scale hostilities began in the morning of 30 June, and is used not only artillery, – said the commander of the army of Donbass.
According to him, on the morning of 30 June, the Ukrainian military has snachala conducted reconnaissance, and then tanks moved on Nikolaevka. Town is under fire mortar and tank guns. Four of militia were wounded.
– With high probability we are waiting for massive artilleriiskii fire to show that the truce is over. First of June we will wait for air strikes. Shells Ukrainian military this week brought a lot, ” continued Shooters.
The term truce declared by the Ukrainian President, Petro Poroshenko, will expire on 30 June 23 hours Moscow time. According to lider LNR Valery Bolotov, after that Kiev will start the global Stripping in DND and LNR.
The Ukrainian military is not the first time use of prohibited ammunition fired DND. on may 11 they applied phosphate mines during the bombing of the outskirts of Slavyansk.
Shells, nachinaniya white phosphorus was used in combat in Vietnam. In 2004 shells with white phosphorus was used by the U.S. army in Iraq, during the battle for the city of Fallujah. In mid-2006, during the second Lebanon war, similar munitions used by the Israeli army.”
@ Anonymous said… 01 July, 2014 04:49
> I keep hoping that Russia will find a way to direct a few fuel air explosives on the artillery located on Karachun mountain (…)
Be a man, guy! They decidedly deserve something matching their valiance! I also wait to read the FOABs were used for the first time. :)
One can always say – a big ammo depot might have been hit…
вот так said…01 July, 2014 06:56
“OT, but literally reflecting the same Jewish mafia mentality that is Novorossia.”
OT, but literally reflecting the same Jewish mafia mentality that is ATTACKING Novorossia.
If the use of chemical/ dirty bomb weapons by the Ukrainian forces can be verified/ confirmed, this could swing world mainstream opinion against Poroshenko and puppeteers via the UN.
Putin could use this for drawing a red line (one warning + official protest, then next time obliteration of the nazis, weapon factories the junta and most of all the mercenaries).
If NATO forces doing their war games make any moves as a response, take them out completely as well.
This is the true Europe for all of you who might think of opposing it.
Bot Tak The Jews are not attacking the Donbas now, where do you come up with that nonsense. The Uki forces attacking in eastern Ukraine are composed of western Ukrainian neo-nazi elements. They are direct descendants of the Bandera gangs active in WWII that joined the German NAZIs in killing Polish and Ukrainian Jews along with many millions of those Slavs that resisted the NAZIs.
The Zionists in recent decades have been guilty of many crimes against the Palestinians, but there is no way that they are involved in this recent assault against the Russian people of eastern Ukraine.
@GBMLK
You seem to want Putin to be some sort of mini-Stalin and just “be aggressive”. That’s impossible now since the world is so interlinked economically and Russia is not a superpower with the worlds reserve currency that can just ignore everyone’s opinion and regime change or invade any country it likes. Russia needs allies and it needs stability above all to keep the resource based economy ticking along. Thus it makes sense to be a part of international organisations like the BIS & OSCE. Notice how Moscow always refers to even traditionally Russophobic Western nations as ‘partners’. You never hear the compliment returned from the Anglo-Murkins. Always demonise demonise demonise!
In saying all this however, Putin certainly has acted with righteous aggression when Russia’s vital interests are threatened (Chechnya, Georgia 08, Crimea – although Crimea wasn’t really “aggression” as such, but a brilliant act of statesmanship I’d argue). I’d argue Novorossiya is not vital to Russian interests SO LONG AS it is not used as a staging post for Ukie fascist/NATO attacks on Russia itself. If that ever happens, then you can expect a direct Russian intervention (though it will be limited to securing border regions I reckon, not the whole of Ukraine)
The TV tower that was knocked over on the Karachun hill actually fell onto the positions of the Ukie troops there, according to the Novoross radio intel.
C Stiegel: “How many casualties will the Russian populace tolerate?”
There has been an increasing amount of reports throughout Russian blogosphere indicating that there are, in fact, tensions building between the Donbass evacuees and the population of locales into which they were placed lately. Nothing major yet, but the trend is there and it will not go away. As such, you will now have two divergent lines of thinking developing within the Russian populace, which in short may be summed up as 1) “help them” and 2) “screw them all”. This will inevitably transfer over to the Russian public’s “body count tolerance”. In short, there is no set number, not even to the nearest thousand or two, and there will not be.
GBLMK: Putin is nobody’s savior, and most definitely not for any eastern Europeans. Russia owes nothing to no one, and it knows full well the “value” of Eastern Europeans as allies. Walking a circular path strewn with rakes and getting smacked in the forehead every step of the way is not a Russian national pastime. Neither is counting money in someone else’s pocket, something that so many Eastern Europeans seem very attached to.
“Gimme, Russia, gimme, you owe me and mine and all of us! Or we will get so offended we’ll pee in your general direction! There! Take that! And… gimme!”
BOPOH
I have wrote two months ago that Putin will betray Novorossia.
This is happening right now.
Putin-worshipers must be disappointed.
There is a very simple explanation to Putin decision not to move Russian army to Eastern Ukraine: russian Oko satellites that are needed to detect an ICBM launch have been built in USSR and have never been replaced.
The replacement was planned to be placed onto orbit in 2013, but it wasn’t done.
Recently a Proton rocket carrying 13 military satelites exploded at launch in Plessetsk.
Russian authorities consider this incident an act of sabotage and are investigating it accordingly.
Maybe the Oko relacement satelites were on board of this Proton rocket.
Anyway, despite all Saker’s pontificatings about the Russian military capabilities, Russia is currently unable to detect the launch of nuclear missiles.
Russia is not ready to face NATO/USA in a nuclear conflict. Russia will try to use other tools to undermine USA domination.
But the folks in Novorossia will be slaughtered well before US empire crumbles.
Saint prince Alexander Nevskyi famously told: “God is not found in (brute) strenght, but he is to be found in the Truth”.
When asked about what happened to the Kursk submarine, Putin has famously replied: ” Well, it sank…”.
That was the first time that Putin caved in to the global West, but we do see today that it was not the last time.
For all his posturing, Putin is not Alexander Nevskyi…
This is a good article for any English-speaking friends who want to understand . . .
http://www.thenation.com/article/180466/silence-american-hawks-about-kievs-atrocities
Brzezinski about the current crisis:
http://www.the-american-interest.com/articles/2014/06/27/confronting-russian-chauvinism/
The Canadian government has mandated that RT is a pay channel. It was blacked out on my Telus cable. I had to call to subscribe. I guess you could say RT is now a premium channel. It now cost two dollars a month. That is still censorship. If there is too many subscribers to RT then the Feds will ban it.
Doug
Some folks might enjoy articles by Igor Druz, a political commentator regarding Russian and Ukrainian matters who seems to have some role for Novorossiya, but who discusses a broader range of topics, such as the West’s Satanism, various oligarchs and their Talmudic influences, and the Philistine approach of those with influence in Moscow. Here is an example of him attacking the Party of Regions for promoting the Nazis:
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I’m more than two years for criticizing the Party of Regions flirting with neo-Nazis, has warned it will end, but this one voice of one crying in the wilderness did not heed.
Then, too, my predictions, alas, seemed influential people wrong. I warned about the coming events the Party of Regions and serious people in Moscow two years ago and earlier.
But they have two questions: if you’re so smart, why are not you rich?
And secondly, how can you understand anything at all, if you are a believer?
…
Exactly two years ago my paper:
“… Neo-Banderivtsy regularly advertise in all media are invited to all the most popular television shows. And it is absolutely impossible without the patronage of the highest ranks the country’s leadership, including – from law enforcement agencies, who obviously hope to solve with the help of certain extremists tactical tasks.”
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http://ruskline.ru/author/d/druz_igor_mihajlovich/
The systematic ETHNIC CLEANSING of Donbass is underway.
Though illegal under international law, it shall proceed unimpeded to its grim conclusion, because international law means nothing when it is at odds with the designs of US empire.
That obscene truth has been known to the Palestinians for decades, and now it shall be known to Donetsk and Luhansk too.
Do not mistake the above for cheap sensationalism. Do not dismiss it as too grotesque to be true.
It is the stated policy of Kiev. It is happening. And it is happening with the active backing of the US and the EU.
SOURCE: Ethnic and cultural cleansing in Ukraine, by Andrew Korybko
Larchmonter445 said…
“Hezbollah held off the IDF and demoralized the Israelis in 2006. A good plan, determination and several well-placed anti-tank rounds stopped a far superior army.”
Hezbollah, if I remember correctly, allowed the israeli tanks to advance far into Lebanese territory and then attacked them from behind. The tanks had a weakness in their armour at their rear, I think, but in any case it was a good strategy.
I respect your comments, Larchmonter. Always insightful.
Dear The Saker,
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/738488
Some highlights from Putin’s speech to Ambassadors:
16:55 Russia
Unipolar model of the world failed — Putin
16:48 Economy
Russian ministry approves international company for South Stream construction
16:35 Russia
Ukraine plots some shady schemes with its partners to get Russian gas — Putin
16:30 Russia
Eurasian Economic Union open to other CIS countries — Putin
16:11 Russia
World development cannot be unified, but necessary to look for common ground — Putin
16:08 Russia
Someone wants to use Europe in his interests — Putin
16:06 Russia
Russia is not interested in outside observer role — Putin
16:00 Russia
Solid diplomatic cluster of Russia, China not aimed against anyone — Putin
16:00
15:58 Russia
Russia not to end relations with US — Putin
15:55 Russia
Russia could not let NATO troops enter Sevastopol — Putin
15:53 Russia
Ukraine deliberately eliminates journalists — Putin
15:48 Russia
Russia to go ahead with South Stream project — Putin
15:46 Russia
Europe most important trade, economic partner of Russia — Putin
15:44 Russia
Putin hopes Armenia will become member of Eurasian Economic Union soon
I think he is setting out Russia’s position.
Rgds,
Veritas
Stories of interest – the first relates to Ukraine – true????
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/obama-capitulates-ukraine-war.html
This may or may not relate to ukraine
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/government-stops-glenn-greenwald-from-publishing-his-big-snowden-revelation.html
President Putin drops a bombshell:
“We are aware of the pressure that our American partners exert on France with a purpose of not to deliver the Mistral warships to Russia. And we know even that the United States hinted that if the French do not deliver the Mistrals, then sanctions will gradually be lifted from the banks, or at least be reduced to minimum. If this is not blackmail, then what is it?”
This is like the Snowden revelations. Everyone “knows” it already, but the “documentation” is important. (Since Mr Putin would not be expected to say these things lightly, his saying this makes this “documented”.)
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_01/US-pressure-on-French-banks-blackmail-linked-to-Mistral-warship-deal-Putin-3075/
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Iran’s deputy foreign minister in Moscow: “Americans want to create [a] new Ukraine [out of Iraq].”
What does he mean? Is he referring to a creation of a new anti-Shia, anti-Iran identity in western part of the population? Then Iraq would be related to Iran in the same manner as Ukraine is related to Russia.
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_07_01/Iraq-may-become-new-Ukraine-due-to-US-interference-Irans-deputy-FM-2425/
Blackmail? Forced tribute to the self appointed global emperor more likely. Still there is some perverse entertainment in seeing the once proud French bend over to pick up the soap! Poodles on leashes must come to heel when called by their master.
“From the website of the US Gauleiter in Kiev,…”
Just can’t get your head out of World War Two, can ya?
Have you noticed how your readership has plummeted?
Gee, maybe if ya quit using your enemy’s frame?
4. Why is Russia still aggressive against eastern European nations that could actually be strong allies with them ?
My friend
Do you pretend that you are ignorant or..?
Russia has no aggressive design towards “eastern” European nations?
America is the bully in Europe, the Croatian government is ruled from the American embassy in Zagreb, the Bulgarian from the American embassy in Sofia and so on…
Croat and Russophile
Michael Hudson: EU Association Agreement with Ukraine Is a Gift to Kleptocrats
6. Is there huge corruption in Russia or not ???? Don’t LIE !!! How many of you , the readers, would move there ????
Cool
How many of you, the readers, would move to NATO/EU country as Italy, Romania, Greece etc…?
C & R
@Anonymous: Just can’t get your head out of World War Two, can ya?
Actually, it’s not me, but the Nazi junta in Kiev and their Bandera-groupies support base.
Have you noticed how your readership has plummeted?
I wouldn’t speak of plummeted, but it has certainly gone down recently. If that is due to pissed-off neo-Nazis leaving, then I say to that “good riddance” as this blog has never been focused on maximizing numbers or about a popularity contest. It is about saying the truth, which *always* ruffles feathers. But, frankly, I think that I have lost more readers to the prevalence of stupid Nazi and Jew-obsessed posts here than to any other reason (sometimes even I look at the comments posted here in total dismay)
Being anti-Nazi *AND* anti-Zionist is not easy, and it gets me a lot of nasty comments from both sides (which, really, are very much alike!), but that is the right thing to do, and that is what I will continue to do. And if my readership falls down to only 2 people – fine. I only fear God and my own conscience, not the condemnation of others.
Most sincerely,
The Saker
Saker, sucking at the enemy’s teat:
On the inability to understand how dangerous and ridiculous is buying into the enemy’s meme:
http://www.dailystormer.com/tweeters-call-germans-nazis-throughout-world-cup-matches/
Would they be doing this if it hadn’t been made popular to do so? OK, who makes such things popular? Hollywood? US MSM?
“Blogger Theodore Svedberg said…
Bot Tak The Jews are not attacking the Donbas now, where do you come up with that nonsense. The Uki forces attacking in eastern Ukraine are composed of western Ukrainian neo-nazi elements. They are direct descendants of the Bandera gangs active in WWII that joined the German NAZIs in killing Polish and Ukrainian Jews along with many millions of those Slavs that resisted the NAZIs.
The Zionists in recent decades have been guilty of many crimes against the Palestinians, but there is no way that they are involved in this recent assault against the Russian people of eastern Ukraine.”
Oh yeah, like Victoria Nuland-Kagan and the US State Dept. aren’t working with the “ahem” oligarchs in Ukraine. Jews from sea to shining sea.
Actually, it’s not me, but the Nazi junta in Kiev and their Bandera-groupies support base.
Have you noticed how your readership has plummeted?
I wouldn’t speak of plummeted, but it has certainly gone down recently. If that is due to pissed-off neo-Nazis leaving, then I say to that “good riddance” as this blog has never been focused on maximizing numbers or about a popularity contest. It is about saying the truth, which *always* ruffles feathers. But, frankly, I think that I have lost more readers to the prevalence of stupid Nazi and Jew-obsessed posts here than to any other reason (sometimes even I look at the comments posted here in total dismay)
Being anti-Nazi *AND* anti-Zionist is not easy, and it gets me a lot of nasty comments from both sides (which, really, are very much alike!), but that is the right thing to do, and that is what I will continue to do. And if my readership falls down to only 2 people – fine. I only fear God and my own conscience, not the condemnation of others.
Most sincerely,
The Saker
Look, you would come off as somewhat credible if your head wasn’t stuck in an American propaganda film from 1942. This is 2014 for God’s sake. “The “Nazis” have been dead for 70 fucking years! It’s the victors of WWII that still rule, you….
So Nuland-Kagan & Co. stage a parade with Bandera posters and take many pictures. And idiots like you accept their frame, that it’s “Nazis” running the show in Kiev. Is Kolomoisky a “Nazi”? How thick can you get? Haven’t you seen and heard the many statements by the Right Sector thugs on how they have no problem with Jews but hate Russians? How “Nazi” is that?
Ugggghh!
Actually, C & R, moving to Italy or Greece does sound good … :)
james@wpc said…
Hezbollah, if I remember correctly, allowed the israeli tanks to advance far into Lebanese territory
3 kilometers about ( VERY “far” oh yes :-) )
Truth is rarely in numbers. McDonalds will always have more customers then a fine, ethnic cousin based restaurant. Brittney Spears will always have bigger fun base then John McLaughlin. Poison often tends to win when it comes to numbers.
I obsessively come here not necessarily because I want to hear some prophecies but because, just like The Saker, I wake up and go to sleep with a not in my stomach and I want to see that I’m not totally alone in this pain.
The other day, I attended a small birthday party with a friend. Most of people there had some sort of academia back ground and after some conversations, I was absolutely shocked how deeply they were poisoned by the mainstream crap. They arrogantly delude themselves with a notion that just because they tend to be on the left, “liberal” side of politics they somehow above the lies.
Needless to say, all of them were convinced that Putin singlehandedly masterminded the war in Ukraine. They thought, I was an evil Neo-Nazi just because I question their sources. This is all I have to say about the numbers.
@Anonymous:Truth is rarely in numbers.
True. And I can even add that if this blog did lose readers (it did) it also gained a lot of very real support (I am preparing a post about that for either later today or tomorrow) so some are most definitely getting what I am trying to do here. Others, clearly, don’t. Frankly, I am seriously considering a “shoot-on-sight policy” for these Nazi-groupies who have been mercilessly abusing my (frankly naive and way too permissible) moderation policies. My big problem is that I hate censorship, so each time I send one of their illiterate and typically hostile/angry comments to the trash I also feel pangs of guilt. I guess that I am slow at getting mature enough to accept that some folks just need to be shown the door. Oh well, I will learn by trial and error.
Kind regards and thanks for your understanding and support!
The Saker
7hi saker
dont let trolls bring you off course. there are many out there who respect your integrity and honesty.
Yours
The Mongrel
Ahhhhh…the anti-Putin anti-Russian trolls are out in force. Silly trolls. Jumping the shark in every single post. Trying desperately to sow seeds of doubt and fear. Same as ever.
Putin tells you straight-out what he’s thinking and doing… and then does it. Love him or hate him… its hard NOT to respect him.
Pray without ceasing for the folks in East Ukraine. The fight for independence is theirs. Not Russia’s.
Today, WAPO’s front page above the fold had a picture of an Iraq war vet triple amputee. The evil we have perpetrated on our children and the children of others through these wars is destroying this nation. The ONLY power evil possesses is to destroy itself. That picture tells the story of America’s cannibalization. The implosion of evil. I am deeply ashamed for my former ignorance. ANGLO-ZIONISM is abject evil. The people who did this to this young man — elected leaders and power-brokers — the ones who take money and destroy lives — are not morons or idiots. They will reap the whirlwind.
There are huge systemic shifts happening all around us. Shifts which were not envisioned months ago. And a sea-change in consciousness about these events is unfolding rapidly. This is not about V. Putin. This is about choosing LIFE. Those who place others knowingly in harms way are already dead. Tick, tock.
Celabelle DeCadix said…
Actually, C & R, moving to Italy or Greece does sound good … :)
01 July, 2014 14:57
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The point is
There are lot of American vassals
where is rampant corruption and low living standard.
You would like to go to Greece fine but in what capacity?
To be in NATO base, to work there or on holiday?
If on holiday with yacht or without money?
The point is in Russia there is corruption but there is as well in every single NATO/EU country.
C&R
I obsessively come here not necessarily because I want to hear some prophecies but because, just like The Saker, I wake up and go to sleep with a not in my stomach and I want to see that I’m not totally alone in this pain.
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Thanks, count me as well among you.
Spaniard
There is a serious potential source of mishaps very cogently pinpointed by Paul Craig Roberts:
What does the State Department tell people – do what we say or we will bomb you into the Stone Age. Remember? They told that to the Pakistani leader. Do what we say. Now!
So, if you have that type of attitude, it doesn’t matter whether you tell the truth or tell lies, because you are the ruler, you are the one, you are the Caesar. And what you say goes, true or false. And so, it is not important to you that it is true, because you are not working on a diplomatic level.
This is something that Putin and Lavrov – the Foreign Minister – don’t seem to understand. They keep thinking that they can work something out with Washington, if the Russian government is just reasonable enough and shows enough good will.
This is a Russian delusion. Washington has no good will.
Potholes ahead in the road, beware…
The Vineyard has grown its vines internationally and sunk its roots quite deeply.
The Troll fungus can’t take hold.
Each day the Vine produces nutritious Truth that marvelously kills the Troll fungus and deliciously excites the minds of the readers.
Yes the Vineyard is a marvel of culture and intellect and it frightens the death-worshipping snakes. The Trolls work for Satanic causes.
Saker, each moment you waste with fungus is less fruit on the Vine, less ground cleared for the Vineyard to grow. Ignore the taunts. Troll fungus dies on the Vine.
I wouldn’t speak of plummeted, but it has certainly gone down recently. If that is due to pissed-off neo-Nazis leaving, then I say to that “good riddance” as this blog has never been focused on maximizing numbers or about a popularity contest. It is about saying the truth, which *always* ruffles feathers. But, frankly, I think that I have lost more readers to the prevalence of stupid Nazi and Jew-obsessed posts here than to any other reason (sometimes even I look at the comments posted here in total dismay)
Let me explain why you find yourself in such total dismay. Please?
First of all, there are always nuts on every side of an argument, especially on the net. BUT… Your complaints are hollow so long as you yourself lace every post with a them of 1942.
Thus, you can refuse posts that do the same, albeit from the opposite viewpoint. But doing so exposes such a ridiculous framework that serious posters don’t bother, and you’re left with the overcongratulatory brown-nosed types.
All I am really suggesting is that you try to get WW2 out of your keyboard and you’re likely to attract higher quality responses – and will have fewer “Nazi & Jew” comments of the nutjob variety.
There are plenty of people like me who are on the side of Russia in this thing who would be happy to limit our disagreements with you over ancient history – if you would drop it yourself. If you would just try it I believe you would like it, since it is what you CLAIM to want.
Respectfully,
In the meantime, more – um, problems with European servitude to the US:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-01/putin-slams-us-9-billion-fine-against-french-bnp-blackmail-russian-warship-deal
I can’t speak for others, but I come here for information, not noise. I think if anything you’re too permissive and need to delete more useless posts.
Since it takes me about 5-10 minutes cycling through captchas in order to find one I can read, I think the trolls will leave quickly after a few of their posts end up in the trash bin.
It was far enough for Hezbollah to get behind them, Duncan. Or did you miss that central point in your haste to make it personal?
Dear The Saker- can you please NEVER refer to ‘readership numbers’ again. You purpose maintaining this blog is surely not supposed to be an ego trip? Those of us that (honestly) visit do so for the convenience of finding in one place current news about the ongoing situation in East Ukraine.
Now everyone with a knowledge of so-called ‘activist’ interest in events mostly hidden by mainstream zionist controlled news outlets understand that too many ‘activists’ are ‘hipsters’, and such people quickly become bored by one cause- rapidly moving on to the next fashionable ‘concern’.
Those that manipulate mainstream media outlets exploit this psychology. When they choose not to cover a situation (or to lie about it constantly), they know that even those people that go elsewhere for their news will soon tire of the effort.
Worse, they understand that sites like yours rapidly descend into circle-jerks of little cliques of self-congratulating participants in the forum, which is very off-putting to many casual visitors.
You, The Saker, should constantly work to stay true to the purpose of this blog, and resist all temptations to give in to the temptations of the ‘ego’. You should always remind yourself that every decent Human, whether they make their voice heard or not, is watching events in Ukraine with absolute horror, and understand that NATO and the USA are 100% responsible for bringing the horrors of war to this region of Europe once more.
Zionist terror in Palestine. Zionist terror growing throughout much of Africa. Zionist terror across the Middle East. And now Zionist terror of the very border of Russia itself. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that the intent is to create the circumstances that will soon trigger another World War.
Putin thinks the monsters that rule the West have some vestige of sanity remaining in their putrid brains, but he is wrong. The real elites of the West travel the world, lecturing on how the Earth should have its population reduced to no more than TWO BILLION souls- and the 1984-style police-state mechanisms being perfected in the West are designed to create the control systems that will keep these two billion ‘survivors’ in permanent servitude to the ‘State’.
Anyway, rest assured that your daily updates in English on the ongoing situation in Ukraine are incredibly welcome by so many of us, so please stop consulting the visitor numbers log, and keep the faith.
@Saker I think you should definitely stop putting the Nazi and Jew hating posts through. I’m not surprised if they’re driving readers away.
To find out whether your blog is “successful” you have to decide what is the goal of your blog. (i) Disseminating information, (ii) explaining the Russian point of view (as you understand it), (iii) provide a forum for Russophiles, (iv) quench the feeling of your powerlessness in the face of things you perceive to be wrong, or (v) something else?
As for the Zio/Jew-rants, unfortunately, they have become so pervasive on the Internet that I have learnt to filter it out on-the-fly. Still, for the sake of new users it would probably be useful to place the link to a post explaining your point of view about these issues in a box on the left side of the main page.
@Saker re comment 15:18
Saker, on censoring I’d say just trash what you don’t like, for whatever reason, no explanations; you may find there’s sthg interesting in a post you don’t like; keep it; you decide; since people frequent people they want to frequent and avoid people they’re not keen on, how’s it supposed to be different on a blog? So I find talk of censorship odd from the start. I, for one, don’t fully agree with all the things you say. You may trash sthg I would personally agree with. So be it. I say that’s cool. With real respect from sasy.
“I obsessively come here not necessarily because I want to hear some prophecies but because, just like The Saker, I wake up and go to sleep with a not in my stomach and I want to see that I’m not totally alone in this pain.
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Thanks, count me as well among you.
Spaniard”
Same here.
Saker, you are doing right thing. I am all for it. I also agree with you on Putin. He seems have been making all right moves so far (although I am for early strike), wish the price was not as high. I still think RF need go in and give it a good pounding and tell them stop to f*** with me, ever again.
Theodore Svedberg said…01 July, 2014 10:11
“Bot Tak The Jews are not attacking the Donbas now, where do you come up with that nonsense…”
You twisted what I wrote in a typical hasbara sayanim manner. Something you are quite well known for throughout the web, and have a very long history of doing, ToivoS/Theodore Svedberg.
You are considered hasbara even on the liberal Judeo-centric site Mondoweiss. In fact here is an example of you attempting to rehabilitate the hasbara term, demonise those who condemn the practice and generally obfuscate a discussion there of hasbara:
Make ‘hasbara’ a household word
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/06/hasbara-household-word.html/comment-page-1#comment-675357
WHERE’S PUTIN?
Panzerkampf
Into the Motherland the German Army March!
In the Soviet Union, Summer 1943
Tanks line up in thousands, as far the eye can see
Ready for the onslaught, ready for the fight
Waiting for the Axis, to march into the trap
Mines are placed in darkness
In the cover of the night
Waiting to be triggered
When the time is right
Imminent invasion
Imminent attack
Once the battle’s started
There’s no turning back
The end of the Third Reich draws near
Its time has come to an end
The end of an era is near
It’s time to attack
http://www.elyricsworld.com/panzerkampf_lyrics_sabaton.html
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The Jewish community of Dnepropetrovsk went under the Nazis
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2373-evreyskaya-obschina-dnepropetrovska-legla-pod-fashistov.html
“It seems, Jews of Dnepropetrovsk forgot all the horrors of the fascismforgot concentration camps, gas chambers, forgot all millions of Jewish victimsfor which they seventy years “milked” the successor of Nazi Germany. What to talk about Jewish pogroms Ukrainian nationalists, during the civil war in the beginning of the last century, people with such a short memory. That was long ago…
Or was it a historical fiction to create the myth of a depressed and unhappy people – the outcast?
The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish religious community and parishioners Central synagogue “Golden rose” render all possible assistance to the Ukrainian fascist invaders, killing innocent people in Donbas and Lugansk region and call upon the Jews of Dnepropetrovsk actively help them in this. In the hall of the Central synagogue “Golden rose” installed bathing, zdoka (a box for donations).
On the website “Jewish Kiev. ua/Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community” is mentioned managing the Affairs of religious communities Alexander Fridkis. This character is proud that his community has gathered several thousand UAH on “honorary help the fascists and the Punisher”.
Indeed:
“Time was worse, but there was meaner!”
The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community took patronage over the punitive detachments in Donbass
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/napoleon-6.livejournal.com/327691.html
“On the photo Filatov, Eleanor hroysman and Korban in Jerusalem”
The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community politicized and occupied by collection zdaki for fighters ATO
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/evreiskiy.kiev.ua/dnepropetrovskaja-evrejjskaja-obshhina-13442.html
“The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community actively places politinformation materials, organized and established a fundraiser for the soldiers going into the zone of ATU, assistance to the servicemen of the National guard and wounded.
Many of the materials on the website of the community has highly political: “All the great revolutions in Ukraine is gaining movement aid to the wounded soldiers of the Ukrainian army, National guard, and battalions of territorial defense, fighting for peace and the integrity of Ukraine, and refugees from the regions where commit injustice gang separatists and terrorists, acting on the orders of the Russian imperialists and the warmongers,” according to the website of the Dnepropetrovsk Jewish community.
“The Dnepropetrovsk Jewish religious community and members of the Central synagogue “Golden rose” render all possible assistance to the servicemen, fighting terrorists and protect the unity and integrity of Ukraine, and call upon the Jews of Dnepropetrovsk actively help them in this,” – the official portal of the DEO.
Then follows a detailed description of the aims and ways of fundraising:
In the hall of the Central synagogue “Golden rose” installed bathing, zdoka (a box for donations) for a purpose of raising funds for the treatment of wounded soldiers of the National Guard and battalions of the territorial defense under treatment at the regional hospital Mechnikov.
“We have already collected several thousand UAH, and every day receives new donations, ” said managing the Affairs of religious communities Alexander Fridkis, – donations are anonymous, but I know that means for our soldiers give and needy parishioners, and those who have work. Of course, many Jews do not use our bathing, zdoka, and pay the funds directly, and, moreover, very large, but our contribution, however small, also goes to the common cause – helping our wounded defenders.”
In addition to support for wounded soldiers, the Jewish religious community and the parishioners of the synagogue seek to assist those preparing to go into the zone of ATU and engage in battle with terrorists and bandits. So, yesterday, reconnaissance battalion of the National Guard, prepared in a short time to go for participation in hostilities to protect Ukraine, was taken over tons of food aid.
“We took the most different products: potatoes and other vegetables, canned meat and, of course, matsu, continues to tell Alexander Fridkis, who is very active collected it and I am very grateful to all of them, and especially Moishe Warsaw and Nikolai Shitikova. We went to the guards and even did not expect how much they need our modest contribution. I was shocked to see in what conditions are those who are soon to go to shed his blood for us, for our children, for our country, for all the Ukrainian people, including the Jews of Ukraine.
The community also organized to raise funds, clothing and food aid, some families of refugees found shelter in social institutions – pension for boys “Bytes Les Banim” and the Home of the elderly person “Beit Baruch”. All items fundraising work round the clock.”
I have enjoyed your piece about Russian retreats, I think your feelings are very widely shared here.
I wish only to point out that maybe the current struggle between “Eurasianists” and “Atlanticists” is a bit more complicated than reported.
Often we’re referred to the Lybian debacle as a sign of the bad Western influence. In fact, permitting the Lybian obscenities has been the worst strategic error of Russia in the last decade. It is attributed to Medvedev, as he was the President at that time.
Fine enough, but then don’t we should attribute to him also the eorgian triumph? Then he was the President too, wasn’t he?
P.S. – Is there anywhere in the blog a search box? I’m not able to find it, no matter how hard I try, and it’s impossible to find old posts, so that the usefulness of the blog is hindered.
On 01 July, 2014 14:30, Gareth wrote:
Michael Hudson: EU Association Agreement with Ukraine Is a Gift to Kleptocrats
Thanks a lot. I’ve got a lot of respect for Michael Hudson, also as a scholar.
I made a transcript of the interview using the existing transcript from the TRNN as a starting point. That one, however, had several issues, so I did some editing using the video source as a basis, fixed both punctuationand spelling and re-arranged the paragraphs.
Link to the original “raw” transcript and video:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12060
Part I
Anton Woronczuk: Welcome to The Real News Network. I’m Anton Woronczuk in Baltimore. And welcome to another edition of “The Hudson Report”. Now joining us is Michael Hudson. Michael Hudson is a distinguished research professor of economics at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. His two newest books are “The Bubble and Beyond” and “Finance Capitalism and Its Discontents”. Thanks for joining us, Michael.
Michael Hudson: Good to be here.
Anton Woronczuk: So, Michael, let’s talk about the economic association agreement that Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine signed with the EU last week. Let’s get a sense of what are the details of the agreement. And how does this differ from, let’s say, in economic terms, from a full-fledged membership with the EU?
Michael Hudson: Well, I better begin by putting it in the big picture, and then I’ll get after the details. The big picture is that this is a form of colonialism almost identical to what Europe did in Africa and Latin America and the Near East. What it did in the 19th century in Africa, where property was owned communally, was it would go to the chieftains of a given tribe, as it did to the Saudi Arabian chieftains, and it would say, well, to make an agreement, you have to register all this oil of your country, but you register it in your own name.
And once they registered it in their own name, then Britain or France or the other European powers could make a deal that the chieftains could then sell this property or make contracts on behalf of oil or minerals with the European colonial powers. And that’s how the colonial powers pried away all of this property from what had been tribal possession or communal possession.
Well, as you know, what happened in the Ukraine and the rest of Central Europe after 1991 was all of this public property that was the legacy of the Soviet domination was simply registered in the names of the factory managers. So Ukraine has been called the “Nigeria of the North” for a good reason. The factory managers and all the leading kleptocrats simply registered their factories in their own name and took it over. And now it’s time for stage two of the process, and stage two is basically the agreement that was signed last Friday.
And the agreement is not so much of a trade agreement, but it’s an investment agreement. Now, you’ve – as I think I’ve mentioned in an earlier show on The Real News Network, George Soros had wrote [sic] in “The New York Review of Books”, that the Ukrainian kleptocrats should make partners of the European, the Western Europeans and Americans like himself. They should sell out part ownership to the foreign investors that’ll take over.
So, basically, this is the objective of Europe: They want – there’s been a very heavy purchase of Ukrainian farmland, and they intend to buy as much infrastructure as they can by the results of this deal, which are going to throw Ukraine’s trade balance and tax balance way, way into deficit.
[to be continued]
B.
Part II
Michael Hudson: For instance, ten years ago or so, twenty years ago, when the EU made an agreement with Poland and the Baltics and the other Central European countries, this agreement went hand in hand with the EU putting investment money in a huge – hundreds of millions of dollars went in to build up Polish infrastructure and roads and to make the economy more competitive, so that whereas twenty years ago Poland and Ukraine had pretty much the same incomes and productivity, today Poland’s [is] four times as high.
But in the agreement that was signed on Friday, there’s no agreement at all for the EU to give any fiscal support to build Ukrainian infrastructure or Georgian infrastructure. There’s no support from Europe at all. It is only taking from the Ukraine. What it says is the Ukraine, we’re going – by signing the agreement with us and potentially moving NATO in, you’ve got to stop exporting to Russia and you’ve got to give up 70 % of your imports. You’ve got to lower your wages, already at the lowest in Europe, to absolute starvation levels because we don’t – you don’t have anything that you can export that we in Europe want. We’re not going to give you the support under the common agricultural policy that French farmers and German farmers and other European farmers get. You’re not going to get any of the subsidies that we give our own members.
Anton Woronczuk: But, Michael, when I’m reading the mainstream press here, it’s telling me that Ukraine is going to now have an export market of 28 nations, and that the economy is going to grow by 1 %, and that this is especially going to make up for the loss of Crimea. How does this not equate to an economic gain for the nation?
Michael Hudson: Well, absolutely right, they’re going to have an export market of 28 nations. The problem is, what are they going to export? Right now what they’re exporting is largely military and other goods to Russia from Soviet-era factories in the Eastern Ukraine. But essentially part of the deal that was made with Europe is in Kiev they say: Okay, we’re going to appoint governors of the Eastern Ukraine.
It’s as if there was a military takeover of the United States and the military said: Okay, we’re going to make Donald Trump governor of New York, we’re going to make the Koch brothers governors of Kansas and Missouri. They appointed kleptocrats to be governors to essentially loot the Russian regions. This guarantees that there’s going to be continual fighting as the Eastern Ukraine says, wait a minute, we’re being robbed, we didn’t vote for this, this agreement was not made under a legal parliament, which is what Putin and what Lavrov were saying over the weekend.
So there’s guaranteed to be labour unrest and strikes in the East. There’s [sic] not going to be any exports to Europe, because Europe, the last thing the Europeans want is any competition from the Ukraine, until such time as the Europeans can buy out Ukrainian agriculture, kick the Ukrainians off the land and turn them into mechanised farming, and then take all the food and the land rent and the value of the food to the West.
So what this is, is almost like a repetition of the grabbing of Central Africa that you had in the middle of the 19th century applied to the Ukraine using a neoliberal rhetoric that all this is good and look at your exports.
Well, you could say that of the Congo. You could say that of any country that’s taken over. By taking over and conquering you, we now give you access to our market, except we’re not going to buy anything from you. So it’s only on paper. All of this is just pretence.
[to be continued]
B.
Part III
Anton Woronczuk: Well, the terms of the economic association agreement also–from what I understand, the stipulation is that the Ukraine now cannot join the Russian Customs Union. From what I understand, Russia is still Ukraine’s biggest export market. So how this affects the Ukrainian economy?
Michael Hudson: Ha, ha! That’s what nobody can figure out. Russia has already said, look, under the terms, if we were to let Ukraine continue to trade within the Russian Union, that means that we would let all the European goods go through the Ukraine and into Russia duty-free. And Russia’s already said that it has no intention of doing that. And it’s going to now have to raise the tariffs against the Ukraine.
So in practice, what’s going to happen is the goods that Russia used to get from the old Soviet-era factories in Eastern Ukraine, Russia’s going to build new, modern factories in Russia to make its own military goods and the other steel and the other things it got from the Ukraine. So Russia’s going to become very quickly independent of Ukraine, leaving mass unemployment in the Eastern Ukraine and mass unrest. So you’re going to have Ukrainians without jobs and with nowhere to go, and it’s going to look like Greece or Ireland or Latvia without any of the European money that has gone into these associated countries.
Anton Woronczuk: So, then, what would a progressive trade policy between Ukraine and the EU look like?
Michael Hudson: Well, it would have been one that marked the very beginning of the common market and the beginning of the agreements with Poland.
Western Europe would say: Okay, Ukraine, we realise that your economy has not been modernised, unlike Poland and Czechoslovakia and the other areas, so now that we’ve agreed to sort of plan to take you in, we’re going to put a lot of investment in. We’re going to build roads and infrastructure and schools, and we’re going to make sure that what the kleptocrats have taken, we’re going to apply European-type progressive taxation. We’re going to tax, we’re going to put an economic rent tax in, and we’re going to recapture what has been privatised so that all of these natural resources – your land and your agriculture and your mining – can be the fiscal base. And we’re going to make sure that you, the Ukrainian government, can tax the wealthy like we do in Europe.
But instead, the Europeans are saying, don’t tax the wealthy, tax labour even more, squeeze labour by raising gas prices, by removing the subsidies of gas, so that your labour is going to be squeezed and we can grab what you have more easily. So the Europeans are treating the Ukrainians not like they’re treating themselves, not like they’re treating the former Soviet countries brought in, but really like a defeated enemy to be burdened with reparations and especially to rule through their sort of proconsuls as the kleptocrats that have been assigned as governors by the military junta that took over in Kiev.
Anton Woronczuk: Okay, Michael Hudson, distinguished research professor at the University of Missouri, Kansas City. Thank you for that report.
Michael Hudson: Good to be here.
(for source, see part I)
B.
@Maedhros:permitting the Lybian obscenities has been the worst strategic error of Russia in the last decade. It is attributed to Medvedev, as he was the President at that time. Fine enough, but then don’t we should attribute to him also the Georgian triumph? Then he was the President too, wasn’t he?
Yes and no. It is well known in Russia that Medvedev spent a long time hesitating as to what to do and that Putin had to put a lot of pressure on him to finally get him to act (the military was also furious and put Medvedev under pressure). I am not sure if you understand Russian, but there is at least one report on YouTube full dedicated to this problem which further contributed to make Medvedev unpopular.
As for Libya, yes that was a phenomenally short-sighted and dishonorable vote at the UNSC by Russia. But I consider that the worst was the Russian reneging on the S-300 contract with Iran. Gaddafi was no ally for Russia, in fact, by the time the US/NATO attacked him, he had thoroughly sold out to them. But Iran could be a real and meaningful ally for Russia. In fact, I would say that the Shia are natural allies for Russia and that I sure hope that this alliance, which more or less already exists, will only grow stronger and wider.
Kind regards,
The Saker
For those that think being anti-Zionist is limiting the blog, check out Zero Hedge.com.
It is virulent anti-everything same as the Vine is anti-. Same ideological positions versus Zionism less the religion and historical bloodshed.
So, the argument for PC as a filter is nonsense. Saker owns the blog. That means he strikes out whatever he wants to.
Personally, I prefer to hate people one person at a time, not by some classification. However, I do refer to those who cluster under pure ideological banners by their group-think predispositions. Thus, the Cult of Liberalism is an umbrella term I use. Neo-nazis is another cult of depravity I choose to use to describe the leaders and followers.
But generally, I like to impale most of the criminals individually.
God created them one at a time, so I dispatch them rhetorically in like manner.
It is more satisfying to present an argument they can’t answer or escape. Then the full troll-hood comes out in them as they squirm in their mommy’s basement living quarters.
Generally, though ignore the trolls and concentrate on the issues. We are all facing enormous events of global order, peace, prosperity, tyranny, criminality, health and spirituality.
The war for Novorossiy and Iraq Redux are spawned from the same father of evil, born of different mothers. One, the USA, the other radical Islam. Each theatre of war seems very far from resolution.
A brief analysis of possible variants of the results of ATU
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2379-kratkiy-analiz-vozmozhnyh-variantov-itogov-ato.html
“A brief analysis of possible variants of the results of ATU:
Briefly summing up very disappointing for Kiev conclusions of this analysis, I will only scenarios for a possible future in the relationship Kiev and emerging New Russia:
1. The scenario in which anticipated the partial failure of the ATO, providing real negotiations and some compromise on the future structure of Ukraine, taking into account the interests Russia and South-East of the region.
2. The scenario, which envisages the possibility of a hard failure ATO in Donbas, may result retreat group on pre-prepared positions outside the region.
3. The scenario of a failure of the entire project “Maidan”, which envisages, in addition to the complete defeat of the grouping in the Donbass region and outside it, and also the overthrow of the puppet Pro-American authorities in Kyiv. This is the most unpleasant for Washington plot, which involves additional problems associated with the release of USA of operations, with the sweep of its participants and obrubaem political and legal ends.
I will stress once more: complete ATO in the form of a full and unconditional victory of Kiev at this moment is impossible.
Even if the plan cleave strikes junta in Lugansk, around Slavyansk and direction Saur-grave and Snow will be any success – no positive goals, it simply will not reach.
Beginning today, the attack does not have a clear goal: cash grouping junta in 30-50 thousand bayonets simply unrealistic to take control of Large agglomeration of Donbass.
Even if a formal victory junta against the rebels arises in full growth simple question: what the junta can bring to Donetsk as a development project?
Filtration camp and the forceful imposition of the Ukrainian society, which is completely alien to Donetsk edge?
Mine closure and a stop of factories?
The curtailing cooperation with Russia and close on deaf castle of the state border, which fed generation smugglers?
Let me remind you that Kiev today there is not just money for any development projects – Kyiv has no money even to its own army.
And, moreover, is not achieved membership of such money in the future, because in the economy are not just a process of decay, and the processes of direct and visible collapse of economic links. Processes terrible and unstoppable.
Accordingly, in this situation raises the question of what the troops of the Kiev junta in the territory of Donbass more and more will be taken exactly as occupation.
And here we should remember the classic of the national liberation struggle of the Vietnamese General vo Nguyen Siapa.
In Nguyen SIAP fought for the independence of Vietnam longer anyone: he spent in the war thirty years from 1945 to 1975.
And, interestingly, the most complete description of his strategy was left to us by his enemy – American scout, and subsequently by the writer Philip Davidson and was called the “Fighting Vietnam: History, 1946-1975”. Full text of the book, if you wish, you can look here at this link.
Honestly, read this book. Its almost 500 pages of text, telling about thirty years of struggle Siapa against Japanese, French and Americans are worth it, to understand why the people’s liberation war has always played an occupying army.
The main idea of SIEPA was simple and clear: We should not attempt to completely destroy the occupation army. We should make them leave our land.
This will be a step-by-step to achieve militia of Donbass and the Resistance of the South-East
The occupants must leave the land of Novorossia. Step by step, mile after mile…”
Clarity in the face of the Anglo-Zionist’s evil propoganda and deception is a divine blessing.Thank you from the belly of the beast where the TRUTH is absent. My immense gratitude.
Kiev tanks in middle Donetsk city according to South Front.
@hardcore,
The postures you see from Put in and his team are just that. They are an act.
What they are doing is setting a contrast and a context. For example, I am as certain as I can be that the guys in Moscow understand that the recent ceasefire was nothing of the sort. However if they had rejected it as a fake then the narrative would run against them: bad Russians bullying poor Poroshenko.
However, by going with the false narrative, giving the appearance of buying into it they gain time, time to enable little things to happen, for a few people to breathe for an hour or two and maybe a few men to live a little longer.
More importantly though, when Poroshenko ended the ‘ceasfire’ Moscow was able to take the high ground and say, in effect ‘OK, you guys broke it, so you guys bought it!’ when the time come Russia will be talking to the world and saying ‘remember this, and remember what they did? What happens now is because of what these guys did’
And the world will listen because it is true and the world will see the difference between those with true core values and those without them. Usually humans can recognise other humans who have true core values and give them credit for it, even when bad stuff happens.
Some may not have much time for Winston Churchill but he was a man able to embody true core values and, no matter what you may think of ww2, I think it can be said that without Churchill the second world war would have been very different and the UK would not have survived.
That, in his own way is what Put in is up to, it is a hard job because most people in Russia, the hear abroad and many in Ukraine want him to ease the pain that they see and hear about. He and his team have to see and hear much worse and much more but still remain true to the core truths that they are confident are needed at this time.
No, I don’t understand Russian, as almost all people living in the West. It’s the reason why I continually call for the Kremlin to hire a division of translators and get everything coming out from there comprensible to Western audience; they may be the needle of balance.
Fully agree about Shia being the natural and most important allies in the fight against the D-Empire, but the Lybian idiocy did bring far more harmful consequences in the global scenario.
Probably there are many themes not fully clear to me about Russian politics that you have already covered in older posts, so that I wouldn’t need to ask, but missing a search function here….
KC,
Zeuss linked to a fascinating article in EuroMaidan Press,
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/06/30/the-new-consensus-among-the-us-eu-russia-and-ukraine-a-novorossiya-under-russias-protectorate/
although it’s pretty difficult to read such obvious propaganda. Just try and count the number of times they accuse Putin/Russia of precisely what we are doing! It’s kind of fun, actually…
In any case, reading between the lines it appears quite likely that Kolomoiskiy was behind that recent pretty-much-anti-Poroshenko riot in Kiev. Or if not, he definitely smells blood and, well, let’s use another trite phrase, struck while the iron was hot. Let me speculate a bit further — Netanyahoo loathes Obama, perhaps he’s got a hand in this too? Certainly the National Association of Manufacturers and US Chamber of Commerce coming out against sanctions on Russia had also to have stung, badly.
Meanwhile, have the people of the Donbass gone through all this just to exchange oligarchs? Well, I suppose it’s less important than getting the atrocities to stop.
Anonymous 14:51
“Ugggghh”
Well, for gosh sakes, nobody’s asking you to stay. Really.
@Maedhros:but missing a search function here….
It’s there – on the very top left. But it does a very poor job. I much prefer using the Google Advanced Search (http://www.google.com/advanced_search). Just make sure to enter “http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/” into the “site or domain” box and you can search everything, including the comments!
HTH,
The Saker
Blogger VINEYARDSAKER: said…
@Maedhros:permitting the Lybian obscenities has been the worst strategic error of Russia in the last decade. It is attributed to Medvedev, as he was the President at that time. Fine enough, but then don’t we should attribute to him also the Georgian triumph? Then he was the President too, wasn’t he?
Dear Saker
On Libya
During Gadafi’s role there were no naval Russian military bases on Libyan shores.
Russian people, workers and experts were not employed in Libya.
Gadafi’s sons have never set foot on Russia.
Libya or its government did not invest or kept money in Russia.
Gadafi did not allow Russian soft power in Libya.
What Gadafi did?
He sent his children to London to study.
His family members and from the government bought property in London and they took out gold and money to London and Swiss.
He used to buy weapons from NATO countries as long as they wanted to sell.
Russian companies did not work on oil fields in Libya…etc
Dont cry for Gadafi and Libya.
Croat and Russophile
Well, for gosh sakes, nobody’s asking you to stay. Really.
01 July, 2014 18:41
Nora, that reminds me of an old & discredited (for obvious reasons) American saying: “Love it or leave it.”
Btw, I generally enjoy your commentary.