The biggest joint maneuvers between Russia and China in history are currently taking place in the Russian Far East right now. The trained scenario is 100% “politically correct”: defense of civilians against a terrorist attack. And these must be some formidable terrorists if the Chinese and Russians felt that the best way to deal with them is to launch a full-scale amphibious assault supported by naval aviation and special forces :-)
Anyway, here is a video of this amphibious assault. Sorry – no English subtitles or voice-over, but really all that matters is what you actually see, not the pious baloney about “terrorists”!
Enjoy,
The Saker
All I can say to that is “bravo”.
The Far East, Northeast China, East China Sea, South China are secure from the Hegemon and its tools, Japan and Philippines.
Over the next few years, Russian and Chinese navies and defense systems will be woven into joint command readiness.
You can see the integration in this video. These are complex amphibious operations they are practicing.
All year there have been exercises to begin the tuning of communications, radars, satellite feeds and live fire action sequences. The Chinese have also participated in the Russian competitions for tanks and aircraft. They are adapting Russian standards and practices.
The US has created quite a challenge by driving these neighbors together. Decades from now historians will point to 2015 as the year the US lost its edge on land, sea and air.
It looks like the Hegemon might be considering taking another Georgia proxy swing at Russia via its NATO vassals.
NATO says training centre in Georgia is step to membership
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/nato-says-training-centre-in-georgia-is-step-to-membership/article26137332/
Until and unless Russia announces a Putin Doctrine or whatever they might call it.Saying that an expansion of NATO and/or Color Revolutions in any further country of the ex-USSR will be considered as a threat to Russia’s national security and an attack on Russia.And that they will be opposed by all measures including military,NATO will not stop until they ring Russia totally with NATO states and bases.That is just a fact and Russia needs to clearly understand that.NATO can wait 1 year,2 years,5 years,10 years,but that is the policy of the US and talking sweet won’t change that.If Russia wants to see NATO bases all around their borders they can continue their inaction.If not ,they need to let it be clearly understood in the World that they won’t permit that,no matter the cost.
“The US has created quite a challenge by driving these neighbors together. Decades from now historians will point to 2015 as the year the US lost its edge on land, sea and air”.
Obama just wanted to make his uniqueness and exceptionalism absolutely beyond dispute… as the worst President in US history. (IMHO he has achieved the goal with something to spare).
Well said. Russia and China are natural allies. The traditional enemies of both countries have been the Christ Killers. As a Revisionist historian, my central thesis is that Japan in the modern era has never been anything more than cannon fodder and an expendable pawn in the centuries-long jewish Geo-political chess game of controlling and containing both Russia and China.
http://justice4chinese.weebly.com/japs-and-jews-a-match-made-in-hell-the-rape-and-destruction-of-china-by-barbaric-japs-was-financed-by-jews.html
JEWlluminati created the Maoist Revolution (just like they created the Bolshevik and Nazi ones) and turned China into a power with massive transfers of funds, technology and access to the World markets and finances (just like they did with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan until 1939 and the USSR until it was no longer useful).
For me China is a mystery…a have a few theories but the fact that they created the powerful China of today and the fact that China gets a free pass on the “Human Rights/Democracy” baloney never leaves my mind.
But in theory Russia and China are natural allies since both nations are Nationalist and Racialist and the West is Internationalist/Globalist/One Worldist and wants to created the One World Race (low-IQ, brown with some asiatic features).
It is funny how Western “academic” journals and media continuously try to convince Russians of “yellow peril” on Siberia. As we can clearly see Beijing has been getting what it wants from Siberia at the NEGOTIATION TABLE! :) It is great to see the Sino-Russian mistrust from the Cold War has been 80% melted away.
That being said, there is a lot China’s PLA needs to learn from Spetznaz-Alfa, Russian paratroopers, and naval infantry. Although Chinese SOF have been successful in dealing with drug gangs, the time will come soon when Chinese SOF will need to fight ISIS-style groups in Beijing, Shanghai, etc, and they will need to be as efficient as Spetznaz-Alfa.
Will not last very long,
any friendship based on business of two desperates…
There were times when Soviets trained German Wehrmacht on Russian soil, USSR delivering raw materials, wood and grain to Germany, Germans technology to bolsheviks,
within 10 years there was the 2nd WW.
Just think about how to expell several millions (some of them illegally immigrated) of Chinese from Russia? Yes, the times can change, resources can become scarce. How to arrange it that the country with some 120 mil. citizens (of more than 100 ethnics and nations) makes clear to the neighbour with over 1 bil. inhabitants not to interfere?!
One possibility https://youtu.be/twi4o2yLQvk
is how the Yemeni send home US tanks with Russian weapons.
But very soon not only the Chinese economy but also technology and military will absolutely prevail…
I understand you are a Russia-hater.But really, try to at least get the facts right.First,Russia, and certainly China, are not “two desperates”.Second,China can get everything she needs much easier than with aggression the “old fashioned” way,trade for it.Third,Russia has close to 150 million people today (and growing).Any current census estimate shows that,look it up.Fourth,Eastern Russia is between 95-97% Slavic.The Chinese minority is tiny.There are probably as many Russians in China as Chinese in Russia.And Fifth,and last.The areas of China that border on Russia are not heavily populated themselves.So those areas would be developed for Chinese settlement long before any other was thought of.
I understand you are not an analyst,
not even an average student – just silly logic and deduction.
OMG – Russian-hater, a really quick on-line diagnosis.
And your “facts” somehow do not fit the real numbers and relations to my text above.
The Master is a baiter.
The “master” sounds like a Western master-bater, or is that master-baiter.
Westerners realize that the only way that they can continue to rule the world is to divide and conquer and prevent the nations of Eurasia from developing strategic alliances against them
As such, the West is waging a desperate disinformation war to sow mistrust and division between nations like Russia and China–akin to how they have sown division in the Middle East between Sunni and Shia nations.
No country should fall fo this Western baited trap.
Whispering campaigns disguised as “analysis” is one of their special tactics of deception.
To paraphrase Native American wisdom, Europeans and Americans speak with the serpent’s tongue.
There was a story about NASA’s moon landing.
Much prior to the launch some NASA guy were in the US west doing something when they happened upon a Navajo. They asked him to say something in his language that they could record and play from the surface of the moon. He complied.
Story goes that when the Navajo’s heard the message being broadcast from the moon’s surface they had a chuckle.
The message was such: Dear Moon bretheren, beware the White Man. He’s come to take your land.
The US regime made hundreds of treaties with the Indigenous, and broke every one. That tells you all you need to know about ‘Western Moral Values’, but then there are the genocides, foreign aggressions, subversions, exploitation….
Bob, it looks like a simple Sinophobic xenophobe, the type infesting the West these days, as the reality of China’s rise gives the Western supremacists ‘The Fear’. The BBC is as full of them as a septic tank is of turds, only they have a plummy voice and a nauseating line in contemptuous condescension, as if it was still 1839 and the ‘Celestials’ had better just smoke their opium and get out of the White Man’s way. I wouldn’t cross the street to micturate on this type-life’s too short.
I should clarify my “negotiation table” comment. China is getting what it wants from MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL negotiations with Moscow. Oil and gas through rail and pipelines, electricity from Russian hydroelectric dams, Siberian timber, and easier visa requirements for Chinese citizens in Russia.
It is true things could be better, but one thing is certain: Moscow does NOT have to fear for its Far East regions.
yawn, the “Yellow Peril” believers strike again…
You know how many people died in the history of all wars between Russia and China? A few thousand. These were all not more than military skirmishes.
To most westerners it is simply inconceivable that 2 such major powers can coexist for centuries side by side without having each side constantly seeking to overpower the other side by force or even caring much for the other.
One can also see this when reading what the first Chinese explorers did when they reached the African continent in comparison to what the Europeans did there. They simply traded with the locals and then went home.
This is also inconceivable to a westerner as he always seeks to enslave local native populations, label them subhumans and eventually exterminate them.
Excellent observation, Ivan. The West fears and hates a worldview not based on their perverted religiosity, where they, the glorious ‘Judeo-Christian’ West are ordained by God to rule the entire planet forever, and simply take what they covet from non-Western untermenschen, and murder any who dare resist, along with their entire societies. When you consider the true history of Western violence against the non-Western world (leaving aside their own internal fratricidal violence)you must come to the conclusion that the West, or to be more precise, its ruling elites, are evil incarnate.
OMG what beautiful landscape at 1:20…Russia’s far east…I suppose it gets really cold there in winter though ?
It is currently burning, as climate destabilisation tightens its grip. The world will need China and Russia to lead the battle to avert ecological catastrophe, because the ruling elites in the West plainly do not care. They seem to believe that the catastrophe will kill billions of ‘useless eaters’ and leave the ruling Western elite, miraculously, unharmed. They are, indeed, mad as well as bad and dangerous to know.
oh that’s so enjoyable to see the Russian and Chinese troups interspersed…blue and green..happy faces….nice.
Language will be a big issue if the two armies are to work well together. They will need a speaker of the opposite language embedded in each and every group.
Less of a problem than with NATO.Given the long history between the USSR and China the Chinese military has quite a few people that speak Russian.And with the current relations, I’m guessing there will be even more in the near future.When those officers were talking among themselves during the training I didn’t notice any translators hoovering around them.
Many of the older generations of Chinese, i.e. those that came of age during the USSR-Chinese Red Army ear, learned Russian; based on the larger number of Russian tourists in Xian, it is make a big comeback among Chinese millennials. There is also the ability to use a “neutral” 3rd party language, English.
Using “English” would be totally counter-productive.At least if NATO wants to listen in make them provide Russian or Chinese linguists.Otherwise it would be too easy to just hack the conversations.
Uncle Bob 1, neither the Russians or Chinese will be communicating on open channels. All coms will be digitised and all the Septics and NATO will hear is static.
True,unless they can hack that.Given time nothing is totally “secure”.Which is why military technology in that field is constantly researched.But my point was/is,I don’t think they would use English to communicate with each other.
There are many Chinese and Russians who are not all that fluent in English so they would have to learn it to a greater degree and would still have the problem of miscommunication. Probably better to develop Runese or Chussian for the specialized communication of military operations and fill in with translators (both human and computers).
But I think they will find a way to work it out between them without our advice — they have been next to each other for a few thousand years. There may be a problem with the alphabets, though — Cyrillic and Chinese (which uses special equipment in printing, BTW), but English also uses its own alphabet. Or maybe this could be a new business opportunity for Mongolians, for a common language, sandwiched in the middle.
I found this article on “Foreign Policy” magazine.A pro-junta Russophobic piece (with a pay window).The importance of the article doesn’t lay in the poll they talk about.I figure it is using false numbers.But in the fact they are talking about it.The US intends to put the junta Ukraine in NATO.They can deny it all they want to,but that is the intent.And Russia needs to understand that and wake up.The US has an “MO” in their plots that they always use.They like to make it appear that they are “pushed” into things by the “will of the people”.They manufacture opinions of what they want to do to make that story seem real.They use that scheme over and over again.They have made the fatal decision to get Ukraine in NATO.Otherwise they wouldn’t push so hard to make up lies to make it happen.Russia needs to liberate Ukraine before they pull off their plot,or accept a NATO Ukraine,because it is coming:
” Surprise! Ukraine Loves NATO”
For the first time in its post-Soviet history, a majority of Ukrainians approve of their country joining NATO. The drastic change of attitude marks a sea change in Ukrainians’ attitudes toward the security alliance even as it poses a palpable challenge for the country’s infantile political class.
A recent poll by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation made headlines in Ukraine: 64 percent of respondents said they would vote for NATO accession in a hypothetical referendum. (Only 28 percent would oppose.) This result marks a landslide — and rapid — shift in Ukrainians’ perception of the European security architecture. In 2009, only 21 percent of Ukrainians said they supported NATO accession, while almost 60 percent were against. As recently as the fall of 2013, before the Euromaidan revolution, two-thirds of Ukrainians couldn’t envision Ukraine being part of NATO.
Public attitudes toward NATO in Ukraine have long been shaped by emotional divisions between Westernizers and “pro-Russians,” leaving little space for informed debate. Ukraine’s third president, Viktor Yushchenko, used to pontificate about joining NATO without delivering on the reforms needed to achieve that goal. This resulted in growing apathy towards NATO membership and, in the international realm, in a resounding rejection of Ukraine’s accession plans at the notorious 2008 Bucharest summit. Seeing that Ukraine’s leadership was unable to reform the long-neglected army, even the most ardently pro-Western Ukrainians lost faith that the country would ever join the Western security bloc.
Yushchenko’s pro-Russian successor, Viktor Yanukovych, effectively scrapped the previous defense doctrine, which had at least symbolically proclaimed a path to “Euro-Atlantic integration,” greatly pleasing his friends in the Kremlin. But four years of Yanukovych’s reckless authoritarian rule, brought to an end by the Euromaidan revolution and followed by a year of war with Russia, have turned the tables on the issue of NATO membership. The moment may have arrived for this question to become a matter of serious political debate.
The first elements of a growing political consensus on NATO accession seem to be in place. Five out of six parliamentary parties call for closer cooperation with NATO in their programs. In December 2014, the parliament voted to drop Ukraine’s “non-bloc status” (a central policy of the Yanukovych government). High-ranking legislators in the ruling coalition have explicitly called this a first step on the way to applying for NATO membership.
This time, the officials’ words are finally backed up with action: Ukrainian political commentators point out that the country now spends a much larger share of its GDP (about 5 percent) on defense than the NATO-wide 2 percent standard, which few existing members meet. And just this summer, Ukraine has held three major military exercises — Rapid Trident, Fearless Guardian, and Sea Breeze — with NATO troops. The non-lethal support and training that Kiev has received from the United States and Canada in the course of the war against Russian-backed separatists further boosted NATO’s image as a credible international partner. Never before has a prospective alliance with Western nations had such a prominent presence on Ukraine’s political agenda and in the media.
Notably, the drastic change in the public opinion has accelerated in the past several months — particularly since the failure of the Minsk-2 ceasefire agreement, which was intended to stop the conflict in the east. In March of this year, immediately after the agreement was signed, just 43 percent of Ukrainians said they would support NATO accession, while 32 percent expressed opposition. At that time, the newly signed ceasefire gave many hope that diplomacy could put the war on hold. Four months later,Ukrainians are growing increasingly disillusioned with diplomatic attempts to placate Russia. Instead, two-thirds of Ukrainians now see their country’s membership in the Western mutual defense bloc as a means to ensure its security against future Russian aggression.
Granted, there are still regional differences in attitudes toward NATO. The Democratic Initiatives poll covered only territory controlled by the government: the occupied parts of the Donbas and Crimea were not included in the survey. But the results in the Ukraine-controlled parts of Luhansk and Donetsk regions mirror the general trend. Although a majority there still oppose NATO membership, the share of supporters increased from a meager 4 percent in 2009 to some 20 percent now. This drastic increase outpaces even the Ukrainian average. Russia’s aggression in eastern Ukraine has actually persuaded many previously skeptical Ukrainians there that their country can’t go it alone on defense.
As it usually happens in Ukraine, politicians appear ill-prepared to adapt to the dramatic change in the public’s mood. President Petro Poroshenko’s late June response to a journalist’s question about NATO membership — “it’s not time yet” — already appears woefully outdated, as the results of the referendum he advocates now appear rather obvious. Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk has shown little, if any, credibility on defense-policy issues: his claim that not all NATO members supported Ukraine’s membership smells of defeatism. None of the parties in the ruling coalition goes beyond cheap platitudes when discussing Ukraine’s strategic priorities on defense policy.
The change in attitudes is particularly stark given Russia’s continued push for Ukraine to provide guarantees of “non-accession” to NATO amid the ongoing war. But Ukrainians do not appear to be intimidated by Russian troops and weapons. A recent survey showed that 41 percent of Ukrainians would reject a “guarantee” of non-membership even in exchange for “peace” in eastern Ukraine, more than those who would accept such a surrender. Even if the Ukrainian political leadership were ready to make a behind-the-curtain “anti-NATO” deal with Russia, it would attract little support from the citizenry and would certainly backfire politically.
Five years ago, some European leaders and Ukrainian politicians could credibly claim that Ukraine lacked the public support necessary to even start a conversation on potential NATO membership. But now that argument is ringing increasingly hollow, as Ukrainians are rapidly turning into staunch supporters of the alliance. As Ukraine’s army gains more resources and public support, pro-NATO voices in the country are bound to shape the nation’s foreign policy in the coming years.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/13/surprise-ukraine-loves-nato/
Those landing craft are pretty impressive considering how close they are getting to land.
In this latest statement about UAF massive shelling, DPR’s Deputy Commander, Eduard Basurin, sounds desperate, helpless, imploring help from anyone willing to give it. Very depressing. It seems they have no option but to take it, and take it, and take some more it until there is nothing else to destroy and no one else to kill in the Donbass.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/08/breaking-uaf-massively-shelling-dpr.html
UAF Massively shelling DPR
August 27th, 2015
RusVesna – translated for Fort Russ by J. Arnoldski
“Emergency statement: UAF massively shelling DPR, Poroshenko intends to resume hostilities — Ministry of Defence”
On the evening of August 26, DPR Deputy Commander, Eduard Basurin, made an emergency statement: “The situation in the DPR has drastically deteriorated.
The Kiev fascist regime has given the criminal order to shell our territories.
As a result, from 5 P.M. punitive forces began massively shelling positions of the DPR army and the civilian areas of Belaya Kamenka, Novolaspa, Staroslava, and Staroignatovka.
The fascists have used heavy artillery prohibited by the Minsk Agreements against the civilian areas of Aleksandrovka and Marinka. The outskirts of Donetsk have been struck.
The shelling has been carried out from the positions of the 72nd mechanized brigade under the command of the criminal Grishchenko, as well as the 19th infantry battalion. The enemy is using ACS howitzers of 152 and 122 mm, mortars of 120 and 80 mm, and tanks.
A residential block in the Kubyshevsky district of Donetsk suffered a direct hit from a fascist tank.
According to our estimate, the enemy is trying to provoke a response by our troops and with such activity convince the army command of the DPR to prepare for an offensive in this direction of the UAF.
It is safe to say that the criminal fascist regime is purposefully trying to disrupt the Minsk Agreement. The bloodthirsty Kiev puppets are out to disrupt the establishment of peaceful life in the Republic, thereby showing the whole world their inability to conduct civilized negotiations. The paranoiacs in power are leading Ukraine into the abyss!
The President of Ukraine seeks to resume hostilities and lead a new escalation of tensions in Eastern Europe, and therefore, we appeal to the people and officers of Ukraine: sabotage the criminal orders of the UAF command, show acts of defiance, and demonstrate an absence of support for the aggressive plans of Poroshenko.
Come over to the side of the DPR, stand with us to protect the civilian population of Donbass!
We call on the leaders of European countries and Russia, as well as international organizations, to stop the criminal actions of Poroshenko in Donbass, by which the Ukrainian president seeks to unleash a new conflict in Eastern Europe and drown Donbass in blood!” – Eduard Basurin stated.
Thank you very much for this link and news.
A more likely answer is he is setting the stage.He wants the World to see that “we are trying our best to follow Minsk 2” but you see “the Ukrainians keep on shelling no matter what we do”.So then when the Ukrainians do attack there won’t be any problem when the NAF destroys them.
IMHO, perhaps a declaration like this, by Russia to the Donbas republics, the Ukraine, Germany, France, the US, OSCE, NATO, and the UN Security Council, might be useful:
“In order to bring about a peaceful resolution to the crisis in the Eastern Ukraine, as envisioned in the Minsk-2 accord, Russia will immediately retaliate from its own territory against any artillery or rocket attacks on the Donbas republics.”
Russia should be able to do so easily with Iskandrs. Thermobaric warheads should give the Ukis pause, and deter them from future attacks.
PS: I forgot to sign the above. — W.H. Seward (no, we’re not returning Alaska)
I don’t know, but i wonder why this kind of exercises are always in russian land… With all that rumours about an China eyes on Siberia is strange this kind of preference.
Anyway, i hope one day the CSTO + China get an organization like NATO.
So which part of the heavily populated Chinese coast would you think a better spot to use? One of the nice things about Russia is that training areas aren’t hard to find.BTW,the last training their Navies did jointly was I believe, in the Mediterranean,not in Russia or China but actually closer to Syria.
China has also hosted joint Sino-CSTO military exercises off the coast of Dalian, and Hainan island, amongst other locales.
As for a Chinese invasion of Siberia, it is currently being invaded by Chinese businessmen and tourists, which has helped rejuvenate Vladivostock, amongst other places.
Russia wants to project the dynamics of the two militaries in the Sea of Japan and on its Far East turf to establish in no uncertain terms to Japan and the US that Russia is not isolated, cannot be contained, is not intimidated by US power or its vassals.
Russia’s plans for that region are wide and deep, include the Koreas and China, and extend a hand to Japan for economic participation.
But this was primarily the two new boys ( Putin and Xi) on the scene, working together. The petrochemical, LNG, fishery, and tourism of the region needs peace. The best route to peace is to clearly demonstrate that war is impossible. Russia and China are tight buddies now. Training together in critical areas is part of that. I expect to see Russian navy in the South China Sea waters alongside Chinese vessels. That’s the way of the new arrangement of powers.
I’ve noticed we’ve been joined today by a few,who I’d call,empire loyalists.They seem to be following the “doom and gloom tactic”.Make it look like everything is bad and “we are hopeless,certain to be crushed” in other words “defeatists”.Probably the same tactic used by the 5th column in Russia.At first I thought it was one person and maybe they were legitimately worried.But now I see three,too much of a coincidence I think.Must be a slow day at Langley and they decided to work a bit of disinformation on the Saker.
What is rather ridiculous is to try to put a positive spin on everything, no matter how desperate and gloomy it actually sounds. Thus, for example, you choose to interpret the desperate Basurin plea quoted in the Fort Russ article as a sign that:
“…he is setting the stage. He wants the World to see that “we are trying our best to follow Minsk 2″ but you see “the Ukrainians keep on shelling no matter what we do”.So then when the Ukrainians do attack there won’t be any problem when the NAF destroys them.”
You say he wants to make the world see something?
News for you: the DPR leaders don’t have the power ta make “the world” see anything. How many people in Europe or North America do you think got access to what Basurin said? How many people do you think even know who he is? A microspopic portion. If NAF attacks, how many will know that UAF had been shelling all along?
And what makes you so sure that NAF has the power to destroy anything thrown at them by an army that has been massing equipment and troops in the front lines, helped nad supplied by swarms of western “advisors”, having all the leisure to prepare, and knowing they can take their sweet time while they sap the morale of the population and the militias with this constant destruction?
Please stop accusing others of being “empire loyalists” as you put it, just because they don’t have a cheerful interpretation of everything that is going on. Your position as it transpires from the phrases I quoted from you, is patently absurd. It is more than wishful thinking. It is like a parody of wishful thinking. At the moment, there is nothing cheerful going on. There is only misery and death.
Actually, when I read the Basurin statement yesterday, and pondered the choice of wording and tone, I had the same exact “setting the stage” thought.
One can certainly question whether “setting the stage” can be accomplished in any meaningful way, and produce any positive results, but I think that it is reasonable to agree that Uncle Bob’s take on the matter is at least a logical one, and supported by the conditions and by the tone of the message itself.
Its the “governments” of the World that hear the message.And no,I don’t always put a “positive” spin on “everything” (if anything just the opposite).But as most every report we have seen says (except NATO and Kiev reports,that is).The fascists will not be able to win a war against Donbass.So while the situation is serious.Defeatism is not the tact to take in this crisis.I tell things as I see them.And I see way too much “disinformation” coming out lately to be a coincidence.
Anonymous,
You troll us continually, trying desperately to weave the message from the Hegemon that nothing is right with Resistance, and each nuance is a “tell” that the Empire will prevail.
Get lost. You bore the hell out of everyone with your patent cant.
Your sewer rat anonymity is your message. The rest is drivel, packaged to your vanity.
There is so much nobility in the Donbass and all you can do is spread sewage as you dart in and out of the shadows.
Go dance to the Tyrant’s music. The Vineyard is for a spirit of love and enlightened information.
“Anonymous”: You forgot to pontificate about Putin’s Russia only representing extreme wealth disparity and rottenness overall. Somewhat surprising as I thought that to you this point of view is a very useful one for “presenting the whole picture”, so to speak. Moreover, what’s amusing with all your whining and ranting is that you prefer not to see that there is a global power shift going on. To Western supremacists, the invincibility and infallibility of the Western Imperialist Bourgeoisie is a given, as is the inferiority, futility, corruption, backwardness, and incompetence of each and every one of its adversaries.
Granted, the prospect of a NATO Nazi Protectorate in the Ukraine is a truly horrible one. Given the levels of insanity prevailing among Saakashvili and the Ukro-trash — unlike the wealth disparity levels in Russia these levels are, in fact, extreme — we have a real possibility of all-out war finishing off Human Civilization for good. Hence, Russia is dead right in prioritizing its force de frappe, most notably relying on joint exercises with China.
Nussiminen on August 29, 2015 · at 7:12 pm UTC said:
“we have a real possibility of all-out war finishing off Human Civilization for good.”
Nonsense. The rich guys still like clean surface air too much. Nice “low level” conflict is good enough to keep the sheep in their respective field (you included) and MIC supernormal profit in perpetuity.
Meanwhile, they keep their other real killer primed at home http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/27/thousands-died-after-fit-for-work-assessment-dwp-figures…I guess you could find similar in Russia & China.
Reply to Martin from S.E.B.:
I am posting this here and at /ukraine-sitrep-august-26th-2015-by-scott/
Actually I did learn Russian the “children’s way”. We repeated and did substitution drills with sentences like: Я учусь русскому языку в школе. Мне нравится рыба, щи и картошки. The result is that even though I rarely get to practise Russian and have forgotten most of the vocabulary I learned, my Russian accent is probably better than the other languages I learned. After a semester of this method, unfortunately, my Russian teacher left and was replaced by a Russian speaking women from Lithuania, who used the traditional method in a fast paced course emphasizing reading and grammar. The only concession she made was to speak with a Moscow, not a Leningrad accent. At university it was more of the same.
My key reference books for Russian are (1) Duff and Makaroff and (2) Kolni-Balozki. The first because the Duff method emphasizes reading real articles in the foreign language with English translations either side-by-side or interlinearly and the second because Kolni-Balozki gives complete coverage, including etymological remarks, of grammar and vocabulary difficulties in all their gory detail.
Besides Russian, I learned German and Spanish the traditional way in school and university and French and Dutch through course instruction while living and working in countries where the languages are spoken.
I have been to Russia, Belarus and the Ukraine years ago when it was still the Soviet Union during the cold war. Camping and conversing with people in Russian, English, French and German. (The person I was with didn’t speak Russian.) In those days, the younger generation was speaking some English, while the older generation spoke French or German.
They must be a new breed of Andoreans from startrek….everyone has blue skin when i watched the video……!
OT
but don’t beleive what you hear about military from Forbes, at least:
http://www.rt.com/news/313653-russia-ukraine-soldiers-fake-forbes/
Who slipped? How fake report on ‘Russian soldier deaths’ in Ukraine set MSM on fire
Published time: 27 Aug, 2015 22:10Edited time: 28 Aug, 2015 16:07
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Watch the video — total fabrication, maybe from hackers and trolls, on an almost non-existent site, with no working address and phone number. And Forbes just published the lies without even checking the source (apparently in Kiev).
The Wicked Witches of the West strikes again.
See the degeneration of USA (actually, I think it probably has always been this way, just that it is not openly acknowledged):
Presidential candidate Trump openly mocks Asians, and everyone cheered:
http://atimes.com/2015/08/trump-mocks-asians-at-presidential-campaign-rally/
If that’s what Trump thinks he knows nothing about doing business in Asia
http://davidcliveprice.com/12-commandments-of-asian-business-etiquette/
http://upstart.bizjournals.com/resources/author/2013/06/27/21-cultural-clues-for-business-in-asia.html?page=all
Talk about an Ugly American!
No, blue-Donald Trump is the authentic voice of Americanism. Of the poor, defeated, depraved, depressed masses that have been screwed into the dust by the parasites who control the USA, and who have nothing left but their insane arrogance as ‘Exceptional’. Like those lucky Afro-Americans who, blessed by being able to run fast (useful to escape lynch-mobs for their ancestors), can be useful PR tools winning gold medals at the Olympics etc, then loyally strut around with ‘Old Glory’ wrapped around their shoulders, then return to the country that they must love in public, where their brothers and sisters are shot down like dogs in the street and millions are imprisoned, on parole, released or otherwise controlled by the punitive authorities. These ‘Americans’ hate and fear the ‘mere Asiatics’ with a fury. After the Chinese built their Trans-Continental railroads, the Americans repaid the service with lynchings and mass deportations, in true Yankee fashion. I wouldn’t bet against Trump. Those who the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.
Interesting photos this 25th article of Tianjin, along with all kinds of “experts” as usual, from Duffo the self-acclaimed disinfo artiste!
Supposed science is way above me; not even sure about this claim of cell phone as scintillation detector (of high speed particle radiation).
But learned a few things nonetheless.
I didn’t realize you get phosgene gas, the WW I poison trench gas, from this effect.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blast14-640×480.jpg
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/25/confirmation-tianjin-was-nuked/
I find all these claims of nuclear explosions everywhere hard to believe… (ukraine, yemen, china, etc etc)
Dear The Saker,
What is your view of this physicist’s article that Tianjin was a tacical nuke? He is calling it China’s 9/11…..(I know its VT but it makes for interesting reading)
Rgds,
Veritas
News flash!:
Crazy Russian Hacker Has Ruined my son’s life: Lord Biden
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-28/joe-bidens-son-blames-russian-agents-ashley-madison-profile
Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden’s account on the extramarital dating website Ashley Madison was used and likely created on the Georgetown University campus while Biden was teaching there.
Biden thinks international agents, possibly Russian, who objected to his board membership with a Ukrainian gas company set up a fake account to discredit him. A source close to Biden told People Magazine after the first Breitbart story ran that the IP address for the account traces to Jacksonville, Florida.
But account information shows that the profile, which was confirmed by a credit card purchase in 2014, was used at the latitude/longitude point of 38.912682, -77.071704.
It’s likely in this video:
7 Simple April Fools Day Pranks Ideas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwGXlTWFfUM
And all the female members of Ashley Madison were fakes!! The Internet attracts suckers and master manipulators.
They are just copying a page from the Empire
The Anglo-American Empire still builds on the British Empire’s obsession with dismembering Russia and China and re-uniting Eurasia under a single US-UK-NATO planetary power.
For local defense, Chinese and Russian forces must at once
1. improve inter-operability and
2. deploy unmanned naval vessels, assault robots and weaponized drones.
But mere defense against NATO-ASEAN aggression will not annihilate the consolidated threat. Unfortunately, the attackers’ homelands must become imperilled.
Interestingly there is now in U.S. presidential elections going to be a strong candidate who recently said he will have good relations to Putin. He said that he would easily make good deals with Putin. You guess who is that guy?
Take a look at this at least from 4:00 ahead, I recommend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8yj1YkoaM8
France Paid Russia €900m for failing to deliver Mistrals
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/27987/52/
The ship that appears from 1:09 to 1:21 is incredible. Sure, it has a flat-bottomed hull, but the hull is still quite narrow in comparison to the apparent mass of the ship’s superstructure. Yet the ship can get right up to the shore without running aground?!
For those with delusions that Bernie Sanders will be “good for peace”:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/26/sanderss-screwy-mideast-strategy/
So Sanders and Saudi planners seem to be on the same page. But does Sanders really believe that expanded war by an autocratic state in a critical region will breed good outcomes? Sanders doesn’t seem to take money from Lockheed Martin — though he’s backed their F-35 slated to be based in Vermont — but his stance on Saudi Arabia must bring a smile to the faces of Military-Industrial Complex bigwigs.
I saw a poll in the US that among Democrats (the Democratic and Republican Parties are the two party “system” in the US),Sanders was polling at 62% with Clinton at 28%.The other 10% was divided between others including Biden who was at 5%.Its way to early for any certainty about that election.I am shocked though at how “popular” Sanders has become.I think it’s because as I mentioned before, people want to hear a “populist” message from a candidate.They never hear that from their candidates.Its the same on the Republican side.Trump is sounding a form of a populist message.Only from the right-wing viewpoint,while Sanders comes more from the left-wing side.The key though is both “populist” wings have some ideas in common.And they are appealing to people.At the end of the day,I doubt either will win.The “powers that be” haven’t turned their full guns on them yet.But I could be wrong,one of them could actually win (or at least be their parties candidate).But I wouldn’t bet on it if I was a betting man.
I doubt any one of those 2 would have made any difference. There are a few things I learnt over the past 2 decades in the US. There are only 3 groups of people in Washington DC: those who want war, those who want More War, and those who want ALL OUT War.
By now my favorite song during the election season is Fleetwood Mac’s “Little Lies” : Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. Tell me, tell me, tell me lies.
I have to admit I got snookered by, as yet, “the greatest fraud in US history” – Obama. It will not happen again. In fact going forward, between 2 candidates, there is no point choosing the “less bad”. I might as well choose “the worst”. I think unless and until we elect the worst ever president, US people (majority anyway), will continue to be zombies…. I rather someone really terrible is chosen and people finally rise up…
If there is any lesson to choosing Obama, it is that choosing the less bad lead to less resistance to bad policies, that’s all.
I shutter to think of who the “worse” would be.I thought the last 5 pretty much was scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
It will certainly has to be worse than G.W Bush or Obama. The Chinese theory on government is that if the government is bad enough, it will be overthrown, and that would be the only natural outcome. PCR also said that what is needed in order for the USA to change, is a new president with a mass movement behind it.
If you think about it, US has been trying to overthrow various countries basically by triggering mass movement (color revolutions). Thus the sanctions against Russia are designed to make people angry at the government, it just did not work because every Russian is smart enough to see that they are due to external forces. In order the succeed, mass movements have to spring from internal. Thus only when people are so angry and fed up with the (US) goverment will US people change it. Otherwise it will never change – come every presidential election, it will be “Welcome the new POTUS, same as the old POTUS”
“There are a few things I learnt over the past 2 decades in the US. There are only 3 groups of people in Washington DC: those who want war, those who want More War, and those who want ALL OUT War”
Exactly. And, even more importantly, this propensity for unending violence is in absolute perfect agreement with plain Pindo mentality. It’s not a matter of an isolated Pindo elite increasingly turned psychotic. Actually, I would even go so far as agreeing — sincerely — with the Pindos’ claims to Exceptionalism. They are unsurpassed in their parasitic appropriation (as well as wanton trashing) of the Planet’s resources and labour output. Obviously, this modus vivendi cannot rely on anything but unending repression and terror, just like it cannot breed any different mentality than a Nazi one. Last but not least, it cannot be terminated but by imperialist defeat inflicted from outside. Sure as hell, “change” — at least for the better — does not originate in the Offal Office.
Nussiminen, you have it precisely. The ruling Western elites, most markedly in the Anglosphere, are ‘Rightwing Authoritarians’, or in simple jargon, psychopaths. Some charming, dissembling and treacherous (Obama, Blair-for a while, Bill Clinton etc)but most just bloody evil (Cameron, Harper, Abbott etc). This is a battle between good and evil, no doubt about it.
Evil indeed. And, once again, with a faithful mass base at their disposal. As a Russian blogger of yesteryear put it:
“The West is made up by bankrupt hideous baboons for whom the total destruction of humanity and, indeed, life itself is their only capable wetdream”.
If anything, the above assessment fits so-called “Western Culture” to a T.
@ The Saker,
Thank you. A wonderful and uplifting video. It’s good to see the Russians and Chinese together. Btw..beautiful landscape !
Talk about amphibious invasions…
Russian foreign ministers have more fun:
http://www.rt.com/news/313761-lavrov-rafting-russia-extreme/
(Kerry, on the other hand, has trouble not falling off a bike — maybe he learned that from Bush.)
One does not really know what rafting is until you try whitewater rafting at the sources of the Nile in Jinja ( Uganda ).
Just amazing! Cheer up, Lavrov!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlwLRXdcrjM
The political statement implicit with this exercise, that is will to extend military cooperation between Russia and China, is an important one, although it’s not new.
What is otherwise striking in that exercise is how small it was. Look up http://news.usni.org/2015/08/26/china-russia-land-400-marines-in-first-joint-pacific-amphibious-exercise We’re speaking of about 400 soldiers, both nations combined, China e.g. landing 150 men with 20 armored vehicles.
OK, but any small amphibious exercise e.g. by France with Lebanon (March 2013) includes equivalent number of vehicles and soldiers. Look up http://www.defense.gouv.fr/ema/interarmees/exercices-interarmees/autres-exercices/cedre-bleu-exercice-amphibie-conjoint-franco-libanais (link in French) And similar exercises are held regularly, not only by France obviously but by other Western nations as well, not only with Lebanon or other small country. France did a national-only amphibious exercise in 2014 that was (much) larger that this combined bi-national Russia+China exercise… http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/grandes-manoeuvres-aeronavales-et-amphibies-entre-le-var-et-la-corse (1000 men, 200 vehicles, dozens of helicopters)
So this was a ***really really small*** exercise, strikingly small if one relates it to the size of Russia’s population or armed forces, not to speak of China’s.
Why?
One possibility: Russia’s and China’s amphibious forces are not that well developed (1)
Also: they do not see each other as a so important military partner, irrespective of public pronouncements (2)
Finally: maybe there are less interested in military abilities in themselves, and more in political positioning. Both countries after all know very well they won’t have to fight a shooting war against the US, nor Japan, any time soon (3)
I would imagine more a combination of (2) and (3). While Russia and China do not have very large amphibious forces, they are still not THAT weak.
dont forget about the russian plan to reinforce kuril island’s defenses , in a bold move by the russian to counter the japanese goverment childish behaviour in claiming kuril as their own and in provocating russia by giving aid to ukraine.
japan is a nation that only pretend to be peaceful , especially to the americans who is now their master.. japan treated other nations like china and korea and russia with contempt, foolishly causing more hate to japan because its insistence on some islands far away from japan mainland.
if the japanese gov dont pull back its head and stop their confrontational attitude, it will find it with no friends around it , and will find that uncle sam is unreliable ally in a real shooting war..
the only friend the japs got now is another US puppet the filipino gov, who sell their country’s soul and befriend america and japanese , forgetting that many pain and suffering in filipino all caused by america and japan.
the only way for peace in asia is removal of US military from pacific and the removal of US puppet goverment like japan, filipino, australia, singapore..
I don’t think Russia intends to defend the Kurils with a very small force such as that which took part in this Russian-Chinese politico-military exercise… with 90% on the politics and 10% on the military, as I was explaining :-) Again, Russia and China may not be that powerful amphibious-fighting-wise, they are not THAT weak.
Regarding Japan, I am not aware of any infringement of Japanese forces on territory of any other nation. Protests about Kurils may be futile, they are strictly peaceful. And Japan did not respond in kind to Chinese provocations in the Senkaku / Diaoyu dispute, which was a wiser policy than that of China.
As for the US position in East & South-Eastern Asia, it is actually very secure, not in spite of but thanks to China. When a newly very powerful nation ruffles feathers among its neighbors in a way that they consider arrogant, the net effect is for them to favor “the devil they know”, relations with whom they have learnt to manage, rather than this new & ambitious devil. Not only Japan, Philippines and Australia have pro-US policies… even Vietnam has moved towards America! The fact that even Vietnam forgave and prefers US to China tells volumes about how China is viewed in the region…
From the point of view of US Empire, South America is lost, Middle-East is both under control and a mess, Europe is generally safe but not secure with US hegemony on shaky grounds… but East and South-Eastern Asia is more than secure: US diplomatic power is actually increasing there.