Both John Mearsheimer and, especially, Stephen Cohen are both extremely smart and knowledgeable academics and it is a crying shame that these two men are so completely ignored by the current US elites. I highly recommend this very good show. Enjoy!
The Saker
Personal note: I want to add something here. Mearsheimer and Cohen are the living proof that the caricature which a lot of non-US people have about Americans being arrogant, ignorant and stupid is fundamentally wrong. During the Cold War an entire generation of very savvy academics and analysts materialized who were refined, well educated and sophisticated thinkers with the ability to truly look ahead in a non-ideological fashion. I have had the pleasure and honor to study with Paul Nitze and I personally knew Admiral Elmo Zumwalt and I can attest that while not necessarily always sinless saints, these men were truly remarkable decision-makers who loved their country and who wanted to do what is right for it. Listening to Mearsheimer and Cohen I had a flashback to my conversation with Nitze who by the end of his life also had reached a certain wisdom and detachment which allowed him to see things from a higher perspective. I also hope that Steven Cohen will impress those who naively believe that all American Jews are sayanim or AIPAC/JINSA/ZOA agents as this is far from being the case. The USA is far more complex than a lot of non-Americans think and it should not be judged by the performance of clowns like Dubya, Obama or Biden.
@ anon 02:26:
about serbia, the EU and russia:
just like the UK is the “trojan horse” of the us within eu, serbia could play a very usefull part in promoting russian interests once a member of the eu. they need an economic perspective, but i would argue that a united european front like now would hardly be possible if serbia was a member of the EU.
@Nora 20:50
Maybe we could add also the coming (Gordon Duff and Chip Tatum report it as imminent at Veterans Today) indictment of Sheldon Adelson by a federal Grand Jury as evidence of a slow gaining of the upper hand by the Anglo part of the AngloZionist Empire.
No reason to “exceedingly rejoice” for the rest of the world, anyway. If that is true, we are just going to get LESS of the same; surely an improvement, but hardly what’s needed.
That’s also the reason why I can’t share the Saker’s enthusiasm here.
These two gentlemen are just reasonable people (of course you notice them in a sea of mad men), but they lack any real knowledge.
Their perspective is no less built entirely inside the Empire and rest entirely upon its official historical mithology.
economic sanctions against russia and the public opinion in germany
73% oppose economic sanctions against russia (up from 69% in march)
but merkel anounced that a coalition of three parties (CDU, SPD and green party), which have a 90% majority in the german parliament, are ready to implement “economic sanctions” if russia “does not change its policy on ukraine” (whatever that means).
also, a growing number is against ukraine becoming a member of the eu any time soon (59%, up from 53% in march).
Marco,
Yes, to your well-stated comments about both men.
bogdan,
Have you seen this piece? http://journal-neo.org/2014/04/27/rus-konets-globalizatsii-i-e-konomika-konservativnogo-proekta/ I’m no economist but he seems to have some good points in here about what could/should be done.
Mulga,
“Winner take all” came over on the Mayflower, landed at Jamestown, etc. Dispensationalist nutcakes wanting to set up their own, VERY exclusionary City on a Hill (the first group), or second-sons wanting to drink, gamble and get rick quick instead of a stodgy clerical living (the second), neither group knew one thing about farming and could not possibly have survived w/o the guidance and assistance of the very people they then blithely murdered, because superiority.
kalithea,
The 2004 election was stolen, in Ohio, New Mexico and West Virginia, among other places. People world-wide were desperate in 2008 — tons of people here worked very hard for Obama, they didn’t just vote for him — but you will also remember he also won a Nobel Peace Prize for… not being Bush, so we weren’t the only ones duped. I’m not aware of too many people who care for him anymore but those on the Left are loathe to criticize him bc he’s black and a whole chunk of the Right really do hate him bc they can’t stand the idea of a Black president (which then makes the Left even more reluctant to criticize him, etc.)
Serbia’s people are pro-Russian, but like everyone else, their leaders sell the people out and betray them.
Why would it be any different if Serbia were in the EU?
An interesting if lengthy document about possible financial collapse Trade Off: Financial system supply-chain cross contagion – a study in global systemic collapse.
Short summary, it could happen in a few weeks because of aggravating feedback in the supply chains.
However, I read the whole stuff a while ago and had the nasty suspicion that though plausible it could ALSO be part of some propaganda deterrence to scare the bejesus out of anyone and thus ensure compliance with the “benevolent advices” of the authorities should any financial trouble occur.
Any opinion from finance experts among the commenters?
The Jewish Mayor of Kharkiv, who has thrown his support behind the putschists in Kiev was flown to Haifa, Israel at 3:00 a.m. after receiving a gun shot in the back; but the Israeli government claims this was done privately. Sure, because we’re supposed to believe that Jewish Ukrainians regularly fly to Israel for emergency treatment at 3:00 a.m. and Israel’s Nitwityahoo and Zionists are so intent on presenting a neutral image and pretending no involvement in the takeover in Ukraine that they didn’t waste any time in denying that the Israeli government came to the the aid of this Mayor. Swift denial – classic giveaway. Pretty soon Zionists will be selling off swampland to bribe Palestinian collaborators with. And they also said they had nothing to do with the murder of Iranian physicists and the murder of a Palestinian in a Dubai Hotel either – and know nothing of stolen passports, and they did not break the truce to justify Cast Lead or commit war crimes and on and on and on.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4514545,00.html
Richard Heinberg over a decade ago wrote the book “The Party’s over” about peak oil. One of the scenarios he envisioned that the world would take as conventional oil begins to decline was Last Man Standing. I thought that the most likely and it would seem that we are at that point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Party's_Over:_Oil,_War,_and_the_Fate_of_Industrial_Societies
Biden’s visit to Ukraine was in part about selling the idea of fracking. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-horn/vice-president-joe-biden_b_5201051.html No one would be doing any fracking at all if it weren’t for the fact that conventional oil and gas are beginning to decline. The energy return (not even counting environmental damage) is too low.
Peak Oil underlies everything going on in the world today.
Andreas Walsh said…
“…the caricature which a lot of non-US people have about Americans being arrogant, ignorant and stupid is fundamentally wrong.”
No, it’s not fundamentally wrong. It’s generally true. But of course not absolutely true. You can always find a exception that proves the rule. In no way are these 2 gentlemen representative of the vast majority of the population.
28 April, 2014 21:55
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Over 70% of the US public opposed Obama’s proposal to bomb Syria.
And by a 2-1 margin, the US public opposes US interference in Ukraine.
I think the anti-democratic structure of US government and US elections are far more to blame than the US public.
Andreas Walsh said…
“…the caricature which a lot of non-US people have about Americans being arrogant, ignorant and stupid is fundamentally wrong.”
No, it’s not fundamentally wrong. It’s generally true. But of course not absolutely true. You can always find a exception that proves the rule. In no way are these 2 gentlemen representative of the vast majority of the population.
28 April, 2014 21:55
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Opinion polls indicated that 70% of the US public opposed Obama’s plan to bomb Syria.
By a 2-1 margin, the US public opposes US interference in Ukraine.
I would imagine you would find similar numbers with the public in the US’s warmongering partners of the UK and France.
I think the anti-democratic structure of the US federal government and US elections is to blame, not the US public.
Gordon Duff has never yet managed to deliver an exclusive that was ever confirmed subsequently, or predict anything that actually happened. In other words, he is either a fantasist simply out to make money, or a misinformationalist. I can’t call him a disinformationalist, because he has never yet managed to produce any effect by misleading anyone. He is just a waste of time. And so is Press TV, which does not increase my respect for the Iranian state in its present form.
Fursov is marvellous. Someone commenting in this thread complains that they are personally scared by the threat to bourgeois freedom of speech, that is, the freedom of speech which destroys all state and national structures in favour of market anarchy. Well, let them be frightened, if it frightens them. That says more about them than it does about the matter in hand.
http://ntv.livejournal.com/352164.html
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ntv/14201556/1059278/1059278_original.jpg
Egypt mk.ii?
By the way, there’s a fundamental flaw in the whole Mearsheimer school of ‘neo-realist’ political ideology, but since you are evidently not a Marxist, Saker, it isn’t so surprising that you didn’t spot it. It is this: the idea that the US’s Monroe Doctrine hemisphere can just sit there being capitalist, without attempting to expand, limiting itself to living peaceably with other power blocs as long as they live peaceably with it, and so on, is just pie in the sky. It is a basic conclusion of Marxist economic theory that capitalism must continually expand, or it will die. If it cannot expand either in breadth or in depth, then it must start wars, so that the profit rate can be restored by production at a more labour-intensive level in the devastated areas, basically the enslavement of the defeated. Germany and Japan after WW2, and to a lesser extent Europe as a whole, are the classic examples, as seen from the US perspective of course.
Smal, but powerfull.
What’s going on in the Ukraine? Who are the good guys and who the bad? Who are the revolutionaries, and who the reactionaries and oppressors? What do the Ukrainian people want? What should the British Worker’s attitude to all this turmoil be?
Harpal Brar, Chairman of the CPGB-ML lays it down in this great video: “Ukraine – Oppose the Fascist Coup
Youtub:
Ukraine – Oppose the Fascist Coup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYHGE3wvr5A
The April 28 edition of German weekly Der Spiegel shows a steely eyed man wearing a balaclava aiming a rifle into your living room. On his shoulder the distinctive Russian field sign in black and gold. “War in Europe?”
Inside, an interview with Steinmeier:
SPIEGEL: For a long time, a military escalation between Western and Eastern Europe was considered out of the question. Is that certainty still valid?
Steinmeier: I don’t even want to think about military escalation between the West and the East. One thing, however, is clear: If the wrong decisions are made now, they could nullify decades of work furthering the freedom and security of Europe. Nobody of sound mind can seriously want that. Because we would pay the price for it in Europe — all of us, without exception.
…
SPIEGEL: Would the German government and NATO be well-advised to revisit their strategic defense planning and armaments priorities?
Steinmeier: There is no military solution to the conflict in the Ukraine. Even if it can sometimes be frustrating, I am firmly convinced that only tenacious diplomatic work can bring us any closer to a solution. That’s why I’m arguing — with all of my strength — that the OSCE should get the chance to fulfill its mission as part of the Geneva Agreement. Of course, that doesn’t preclude us members of NATO from incorporating the latest developments into our communal planning. That’s a matter of course. That was already the task of the foreign ministers at the most recent NATO Council. And now that will be implemented.
SPIEGEL: Do you think it’s more likely that Europe or the United States will come out of this conflict geopolitically strengthened?
Steinmeier: I don’t have a crystal ball, unfortunately. But I caution against looking for winners and losers in the middle of the crisis based on concepts from the 19th and early 20th century. Spheres of influence, geopolitical regions, hegemony, aspirations to dominance – those aren’t part of our foreign policy — though we would also be well advised to take into account other people thinking along those lines. Whoever thinks war allows for lasting victories these days should take a look at European history books and learn their lesson.
Article…
Brian
Mohamed said…29 April, 2014 09:48
Hey, many thanks. :)
Anti-Kiev protesters take control of govt buildings in Lugansk Region, east Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/155640-protesters-government-building-ukraine/
The zionazi drama queens are making some more “evidence” of Russian evilality.
U.S. Taped Moscow Plotting Chaos
http://news.yahoo.com/u-taped-moscow-plotting-chaos-094500766–politics.html
“Intel is producing taped conversations of intelligence operatives taking their orders from Moscow…”
The operative phrase in this new pile of zio-manure is “Intel is producing”. I’m surprised Israel’s bum bandit brigade are being so open about creating this “evidence”. Pathetic.
The Karkov Mayor was flown to Israel because the high level health care is far better in Israel than in Ukraine, but also because it’s easier to protect him against further assassination attempts.
As to who shot him, given the mayors criminal past, it could be almost anyone.
Mike Whitney’s latest piece, yesterday in CounterPunch, is really, truly worth reading. I think he finally gets it; it’s been neat to see his thinking evolve:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/28/why-is-putin-in-washingtons-crosshairs/
Rowan Berkeley,
“Someone commenting in this thread complains that they are personally scared by the threat to bourgeois freedom of speech” That was me. I’m not personally scared, I just have a big mouth and don’t like anyone telling me I can’t use it. ;~) Seriously though, I was just musing on where appropriate limits might be set, but I am curious about how my being able to speak my mind can “destroy all state and national structures in favor of market anarchy” — about which I am every bit as livid as you, btw. Also, your comment on Marxist thought on the need for capitalism to ever-expand and the &^*$^ Monroe Doctrine was 100% spot-on, I think.
Brian J,
Do you take Steinmeier at face value, or think he’s being slippery and sly with that OSCE Trojan Horse? I kind of thought he was being a good guy…
Wikispooks said…
…about that Andrei Fursov video.
…I need a transcript complied
…must get that up on Wikispooks.
Can you give us a hint when you succeeded?
Thanx in advance, Feng
Putin: Washington behind Ukraine events all along, though flying low
http://rt.com/news/155732-putin-usa-behind-ukraine-crisis/
“The US has been behind the Ukrainian crisis from the beginning, but was initially flying low, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said. He added that if sanctions continue, Russia will have to reconsider who has access to key sectors if its economy.
“I think what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow,” Putin said, as quoted by RIA Novosti.
Putin stated that since the US has taken a lead role in resolving the political crisis in Ukraine, it is “telling that they originally were behind this process, but now they just have emerged as leaders” of it.
The “Maidan cookies” policy paves the way to a broader crisis, Putin warned, referring to US officials showing up in central Kiev and encouraging protesters during demonstrations.
“It is necessary to understand that the situation is serious and try to find serious approaches to the solution,” he said.
Putin said that he has called on Kiev to start an all-Ukrainian dialogue, adding that other countries should not be blamed for the crisis.
“[They should] treat equally the rights of those living in other areas of Ukraine, first of all, I mean, the east and southeast, establish a dialogue, find a compromise,” he told journalists while speaking about the measures necessary to put an end to the crisis. “Here’s what you need to do; searching for the guilty outside Ukraine is wrong.”
Regarding the last row of sanctions imposed on Russia by the US and the EU, Vladimir Putin said he sees no need for counter sanctions.
“We would very much wish not to resort to any measures in response,” he told reporters. “But if something like that continues, we will of course have to think about who is working in the key sectors of the Russian economy, including the energy sector, and how.”
At the same time, the US and EU sanctions will not harm the Eurasian integration process, which is meant to lead to the creation of the Eurasian Economic Union, based on a Customs Union and common economic space among Russia, Kazakhstan, and Belarus, he said.”
Bogdan
You mentioned The Grand Inquisitor and Brothers Karamazov.
Have you ever seen the 12 part Russian TV mini-series Bratya Karamazovy?
Here’s link to part 1 with English subtitles (also available without subs). I can’t recommend this enough. It is the best TV ever made. If Americans could be strapped down and forced to watch this (on account of their short attention spans) they’d have a very different opinion of the steady diet of CRAP they’re usually fed.
Please watch it if you haven’t seen it already. It’s surprisingly true to the book and what I imagined. The acting and casting are unbelievable. 12 episodes roughly 43 mins each.
the karamazov brothers 2008 english subtitles. 1 Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuQTWWFuS-4
One more link for Dostoevsky B.K. and the brilliant speech of the Grand Inquisitor. This is a monologue in English from Drama House UK.
The Grand Inquisitor Monologue Part 1 [of 3] – 9:53 mins
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+grand+inquisitor+part+1
So prescient.
Re: Andrei Fursov video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLUJpqaQpY
Those looking for a transcript can now find it in the comments under the video, in 4 [Parts].
pug said…
Serbia’s people are pro-Russian, but like everyone else, their leaders sell the people out and betray them.
Why would it be any different if Serbia were in the EU?
Maybe not. The first video is 18 months old but Joaquin Flores seems to think Nikolic is fooling the West. I don’t know enough to judge his statement be he’s knowledgeable and interesting to listen to.
Russia’s Serbia Plays The EU and Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKSSac2y7b4&list=PL5WdALk2_ZNRTN8uFY-adsDaQ2XeRKJgV
Here’s a second, more recent video (1 month ago) about Serbia on Crimea. I have yet to watch this one.
Serbia Supports Crimea Referendum – Joaquin Flores
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Joaquin+Flores+serbia
Dunno if you’re interested, but if you grab the short url for a youtube under the Share button, you can paste it into this embed code and tweak the height vlue, and the width will adjust itself.
[embed height="300"]http://youtu.be/S9674pRBm6g[/embed]
wendy davis
The US SHOULD be sanctioned , punished , fined , taken to court etc . Because as long as they commit atrocities back brutal regime change etc and are not punished , they will go right on doing it
@Nora
You asked: “Do you take Steinmeier at face value, or think he’s being slippery and sly with that OSCE Trojan Horse? I kind of thought he was being a good guy… “
I think that he is very much with USA, there are arguments against it, but I must be clear, I don’t trust any of the German politicians even one bit. The pro Steinmeier (SPD guy) argument is that he is a protege of Schröder (also SPD, former chancellor). And Schröder is a friend of Putin. Schröder prevented Germany from participating in Iraq war, he also helped build “North Stream”, but he also is a neoliberal and his Thatcherian reforms betrayed German people, that’s why his SPD dropped from 40% to now 20-25% and no hopes of getting back up. On a side note, there is now a huge shítstorm in German media because he celebrated his 70th birthday with Putin, but normal people comment pro Schröder. Also noteworthy is that Philip Mißfelder from CDU participated in the party.
So far I haven’t noticed from Steinmeier any serious behaviour that contradicts the “Anglozionists”
In talking about German politics one has to know that it is a fact that Germany is still occupied land and afaik there is still no peace treaty with USA. Every new German chancellor had to visit USA and sign secret papers. The source for this info is trustworthy (Egon Bahr), he also said that after the German reunification this pratcise was dropped, but I see no reason to believe this, I don’t see why it would have been dropped.
The other thing one needs to understand about German politics is that USA appear to have gigantic blackmail material on them. The Merkel government is doing everything to prevent investigation of the NSA spying scandal. If you want to understand German comtemporary politics you need to look at how post-1945 Germany was completely!!! taken over by USA, the entire secret intelligence apparatus, military, media, politics, everything. I don’t believe that Germany is a sovereign country except on paper.
One last interesting note about the secret paper that new German chancellors have to sign and the spying/blackmail. When Willy Brand (chancellor from 69-75) became chancellor he was shocked when he found out that he had to sign this secret document, but he signed for the greater good. In 75 Günter Guillaume, a GDR spy and FRG minister was uncovered and Willy Brand took responsibility and resigned with the argument that he couldn’t remain chancellor with the commies having all that blackmail potential on him. He was set up by the German secret intelligence service. And now compare this to today. The NSA has gigantic blackmail potential – not only on Merkel, on probably every important politician – and not only does Merkel not resign, she prevents all investigation into the matter. So my common sense assumption is that German politics is fully subject to USA (until proven otherwise, and the proof has to be very strong).
Maybe one could also make the argument that Germany is attempting to carefully integrate with Russia. Consider that both Merkel and the German President Joachim Gauck come from the former GDR and may have been Stasi-members (google “IM Erika” for Merkel and “IM Larve” for Gauck. And of course that Schröder being Putin’s friend, and Steinmeier a Schröder protege. But again, if they are indeed trying to integrate with Russia then they are doing it so carefully that it’s imperceptible – that’s why I say that until proven otherwise I continue to assume that they are US puppets.
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Hiya Rowan Berkeley
I know Veteran’s Today is Pentagon funded and should be discounted on that basis. Plenty of disinformation seemingly geared to rallying dissident vets and maybe used as a tool used to manipulate factions in Iran. Some of the propaganda they produce is compelling (but mostly pure B.S., especially Moon of Alabama and Shrimpton). I go there to read Gilad Atzmon and sometimes Jonas Alexis.
I have a question for you, maybe you or someone else knows something: what do you think of Syria’s purported sinking of an Israeli Dolphin Class sub — and Israel subsequently retaliating with a mini nuke?
Here’s the strike, probably a MOAB (I’ve no idea) but still chilling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcd8WmsxCOM
1. Ray McGovern *really* lights into Kerry, with a fair amount of detail,
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/28/why-is-putin-in-washingtons-crosshairs/
2. McGovern also lights into Obama, but do take a look at John Glaser’s account of his speech yesterday in the Philippines,
http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/04/28/president-obama-why-is-it-that-everybody-is-so-eager-to-use-military-force
3. Obama is a present-day example of that old American staple, the snake-oil salesman — a con-man, nothing more and nothing less. He’s just playing “good cop” to Kerry’s current role of “bad cop”. Or something. And it shows in his ratings; check this out:
“The [WP-ABC News] poll shows that only 41 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s policy, down from 46 percent in the first three months of the year. Just 42 percent of respondents said they favored Obama’s economic policy, 37 percent approve of the measures he has taken to implement the Affordable Care Act and 34 percent back his position on the settlement of the Ukrainian crisis.”
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140429/189461163/Obama-Approval-Rating-Plummets-to-Record-Low—US-poll.html
4. And last but not least, here is something else *really* interesting:
“MOSCOW, April 29 (RIA Novosti) – Two Russian navy ships, together with forces from Nicaragua and Honduras, have taken part in anti-narcotics naval exercises in the Caribbean, a spokesman for Russia’s Northern Fleet said Tuesday.”
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140429/189460592/Russian-Navy-Ships-Take-Part-in-Anti-Drug-Drills-in-Caribbean.html
Off point but relevant overall…I just watched a video in which a former MI5 agent and whistleblower makes a very convincing argument that the 1999 apartment bombings in Russia were false flag attacks arranged by the Russian govt (that govt agents were literally caught red handed with bombs in their hands) and that it killed hundreds and justified Russia’s Second Chechen War. False flags are a fact of life & Putin would have been in on this if it happened in 1999 and was in fact a false flag. Anyone have any insights into this?
Here is Annie Machon’s interview: http://futurefastforward.com/feature-articles/7220-qdeep-stateq-annie-machon-mi-5-whistle-blower-.html
Where-Wolf, is that Russian ‘Brothers K’ available on DVD? I’m just re-reading Dostoevsky, and am half way through ‘The Devils’. However, if I had to choose only one to take to the desert island, it would be either ‘Notes from Underground’ or ‘The Idiot’.
Anonymous at 18.52, the Syrian jihadist butchers enjoy the excellent medical treatment available in Israel, too (human organ transplants are a bargain). Then they are sent back to the fray with $1,000 to pay for hors d’oeuvre, before the main course of human flesh.
Rowan Berkeley, and as both Marx and Engels foresaw, the operation of capitalism destroys the balance between mankind and the natural economy of the planet, based on solar energy. Hence the digging up and burning of millions of years of solar energy captured in fossil fuels deranges the carbon cycle, leading to climate destabilisation, and cancerous production and consumption, particularly by the rich, destroys the productive biospheres and leaves little but polluting waste behind.
kalithea, what percent are Jews amongst the Ukrainian population, and how have they managed to control politics and the economy? Naughty questions I know, but as Henry Ford said of the ‘Protocols’, ‘I don’t know whether it’s true or not, but it’s what I’ve seen in my business life’, or words to that effect.
Monica Perez, if you are relying on ‘a former MI5’ agent and ‘whistleblower’ for your information, then I have an Opera House that you might be interested in purchasing. Nice views of Sydney Harbour.
kalithea, if the loathsome Zionazi supremacist Anatoly Scharansky is involved, then it must be a tainted effort because he is, in my opinion, the very epitome of Judeofascist hatred and contempt for the goyim. The Soviets no doubt realised what a monster he is.
@kalithea said … Anonymous said … In my view,
I’m a citizen of the United States. I wanted to respond to what kalithea said as a means of adding something to the general discussion of differing ruling elites versus the people they rule.
I grew up in an educational system that demonized Russia, Communism, and the Russian people. The so-called educators forgot to teach us that there’s a difference between the government and the people when the people have little of no influence and those people are systematically denied information. The educators forgot to tell us that Russia lost 20 million people (at least) in WWII and that a lot of that killing was done willingly by recruits from the nations behind the “Iron Curtain.”
If you can demonize an entire people, it is much easier to profit off of the consent of those people to waste all sorts of money on a manufactured conflict.
If you withhold key critical information from the people (e.g., death totals, etc), then the people have no reason to challenge the prevailing demonization.
Given a real choice, a majority of people in every society on earth will choose a rational and non-violent path of relating to other societies. There are just as many decent people in Russia as there are in the United States as there are in Iran, etc.
The focus of our ire should be on those behind the machine of political control. Obama and Kerry are objectionable to say the least, but they’re not in charge. If it were remotely likely that Obama (or Bush or Clinton) would try to take charge and conform to the basic decency of the people, they would never be allowed to run for office.
The U.S. and Iranian election systems have a great deal in common. In Iran, to run for office, the Guardian Council must approve you. Part of that approval is a formal test prospective candidates must pass to show their conformity with the values of the clerical leadership. In the U.S., in order to run, you need money. The political parties have their own vetting process. First, you can’t be outside the confines of the precepts of crony capitalism and the national security state. Second, if you are outside those confines, you get no money. No money means no elections. Therefore, the conformity is assured. There will never be a block of candidates to oppose the ruling class. There will be some who appear to oppose it but they’ll either be marginalized of bought off.
The citizens of the U.S. are clear in their recognition of the phony process. They opposed Iraq, all parties plus independents, before the WMD scare. 70% to 80% opposed policies in Libya and Syria. A majority opposes any military involvement or hostilities in the Ukraine. There is reflexive distrust of both the media and the government in the U.S.
However, the means of control are exquisite and relentless. No voice can be heard, unless the internet, that the (s)elected officials announce it.
There is no point talking about “lazy” or “chicken” U.S. citizens anymore than there to speak of Russians or Ukrainians, for that matter. Those who rise to prominence now have the means to exercise absolute control while those who hide behind them in their shadows reap huge profits.
Peace and respect to all peoples.
Everyone everywhere has the right to life in dignity. Why? Because they were born!
Nora,
While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to your own “facts”
Obama’s mother was a white woman from Kansas. His father was a black man from Kenya. Obama is Biracial. That is a medical fact.
Oh, And the part about:
“a whole chunk of the Right really do hate him bc they can’t stand the idea of a Black president”
That is a canard pushed by Obama supporters, MSM, people on the Left, etc., designed to silence Obama’s critics.
So for example:
“If you are against Obama’s policy to bomb Libya, you are a racist”
or “If you are against Obama backing/funding the Nazis in Kiev, you are a racist”
In addition, a couple of months ago, one of Obama’s MSM propagandists at MSNBC ripped on Mitt Romney’s family for adopting a black child.
The same MSNBC propagandists then said:
“The right wing will “hate” the biracial family depicted in the Cheerios ad”
The caused a major firestorm on the internet:
http://twitchy.com/2014/01/30/some-right-of-center-biracial-families-that-race-baiting-msnbc-doesnt-seem-to-know-exist/
It gets even better:
More conservatives belong to biracial families than do progressive liberals according to left wing biased Washington Post.
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/01/31/msnbc-hates-conservatives-liberals-belong-biracial-families/
So to recap, according to Obama’s supporters:
If you are against ANY of Obama’s decree’s, policies, in the Ukraine, Russia, Syria, etc.,:
You are all obviously a bunch of racists. :)
Regards,
Meezer
Ha ha ha, I have to tell you the Annie Machon story, it’s hilarious, I mean, after people being poisoned with polonium-210, and countries being rendered uninhabitable for all eternity by uranium-235, this is pure amusement. Now, here we go.
First of all, we have David Shayler defecting from MI6. Shayler was (and in a surreal way, still is) a terrific bigmouth, and like most of these defectors, the basis of all his claims is implausible. In a nutshell, he talked as if there was no such thing as compartmentalisation, even for a junior desk officer like himself. He claimed to have seen everything on the mid-east. “Everything”. This is obviously nonsense. But anyway, while Shayler was writing his book and going in and out of prison, he was joined on his travels by this Annie Machon, who claimed to be a defector from MI5, and together they became an “item”, traipsing around Europe giving joint presentations of the highly improbable and the already obvious.
This is where it gets really good. It started to be rumoured around the undergrownd of the blogosphere of the internets that Shayler was getting rather heavily into psychedelic mushrooms. Then one day a video appeared in which he announced that he was the Messiah. It wasn’t a spectacular with robes and shining lights, he was just sitting in a small english suburban back garden, wearing a pullover.
At this point (having, in my view, executed MI6’s revenge by slipping him some insanely powerful psychedelic, or rather hypnotic, because that’s what they are) sweet Annie deserted him. Then subsequent to that he adopted the practice of transvestism and became a rather unconvincing leggy blonde in a miniskirt, apparently also somewhat into sadomasochism (that’s a very english secret service touch). He was last heard of being evicted by ordinary police from a small cottage in which he and some hippie chums were squatting. Isn’t it a good story? All the videos are on youtube, but only the real fan needs to see them.
US Congress wants to strengthen propaganda broadcasts abroad
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_30/US-Congress-wants-to-strengthen-propaganda-broadcasts-abroad-5094/
“…The authors of the document do not hide that the desire to strengthen advocacy appeared after the events in Ukraine. “Millions of people worldwide don’t have access to objective news. My recent trip to Ukraine was a serious reminder that the competition of ideas is still very relevant and that the US should play an important role in facilitating the free flow of information and to share its values,” said a committee member, Democrat Eliot Engel…”
It seems almost all of the U.S. regime are the J. Edgar Hoover type of gays now. Perhaps it’s a zionazi requirement? or maybe just an overwhelming desire on the part of the quislings to emulate Netanyahu?
@Michael Collins
I meet people here in my country who talk about the rot in the system. Of corruption, decadence of the rulers, of their rights being abused. But I find very few of these people who I feel would act differently than those currently in power. They lack empathy for the suffering of anyone else but themselves.
I get what you are saying about most people everywhere being helpless against a system. But I don’t feel that makes them innocent of the crimes of their states. Even the North Korean crazies who are brain washed. Because they abandoned their minds.
I get American customers at my shops. They are all nice people, open minded, very polite, they appreciate hard work, and are considerate. Most might be more open minded then locals here or in Iran.
But your system of education is not just making your people biased. It is making them forget ethical values to an extent. It is making things permissive and it is making success the only criteria. And the culture being promoted is corrupting people everywhere.
Sure most Americans opposed Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. but most often than not the answer you get tends to say its costing us too much, our economy is more important, we have no business being there. From the “liberals” in Iran you get a similar answer. Our economy is bad, why back Lebanon. Of course, the economic hardship of the average Iranian is far more acute.
One last thing, the harm that the US is causing the world over is far more serious. The number of people dead or suffering, the wars, the environmental degradation, the crimes of its allies, the changing values the world over. The people there should be more concerned because these monsters in power are doing all this in their name.
Mindfriedo
@Monica Perez
Alexander Litvinenko and Anna Politkovskaya were the first to link the Russian Apartment bombings to Putin.
Annie Machon was an MI5 intelligence officer said to be a dissident. Here’s a segment from her Wiki:
In 1991 she was recruited by MI5 where she was posted to their counter-subversion department, officially known ‘F2’. It was there she met Shayler. She then spent two years working in ‘T’ Branch, investigating Irish terrorism, before being reposted to the international counter-terrorist division, known as ‘G Branch’. In 1996 she and Shayler resigned to blow the whistle on a series of alleged crimes committed by the spies, none of which were subsequently followed up by the Crown Prosecution Service. These include:
– Secret MI5 files held on the very government ministers responsible for overseeing the intelligence services.
– Illegal MI5 phone taps.
– Lying to government by MI5.
– IRA bombs that could and should have been prevented.
– The 1994 bombing of the Israeli embassy in London, when two innocent people were wrongfully convicted.
– The attempted MI6 assassination of Colonel Gaddafi of Libya
Machon published her first book, Spies, Lies and Whistleblowers: MI5, MI6 and the Shayler Affair in 2005.
None of the revealations made in this book were new or even surprising.
It was only much later that she started talking about 7/7 and 9/11. It is logical to conclude she was an asset of British intel with a very public cover story.
The video link you posted was uploaded on March 26, 2011. I don’t know the original date of recording or when she first started repeating allegations against Putin, of which she would have absolutely no personal knowledge, but it seems her claims were perfectly timed to coincide with British efforts to demonize Putin. Can you see the pattern that’s forming?
I have never seen any credible evidence linking Putin the Russian Apartment Bombings nor have I seen a convincing timeline putting Putin in a clear position of authority until well after the Second Chechen War was over.
Putin was appointed one of three acting Prime Ministers in August of 1999. No one expected him to last for more than a few months himself. As you might recall, Russia under Yeltsin changed Prime Ministers like a baby changes diapers. 1999 was a time of complete dissaray in Russia and only after success in the Second Chechen War was Putin credited with providing the necessary leadership for a victory. Putin became President when Yeltsin resigned on Decemeber 31, 1999 as per the Russian constitution.
The first Chechen War (1994) was a project organized and funded by the CIA that killed possibly 100 000 people. Does the name Dzhokhar Dudayev ring any bells? How about Graham Fuller? It has been estimated that up to 1,300 people were kidnapped in Chechnya between 1996 and 1999. The Chechens were CIA backed terrorists with a long and bloody history. Recall what happened to all those children in Beslan in 2004. Putin wore that CIA sponsered tragedy as I remember it.
To make a very long and complicated story slightly shorter, Putin’s accusers have zero credibility and just as much proof.
Just like the BBC and the rest of Putin’s wealthy London detractors, you have nothing.
@Mulga Mumblebrain
Bratya Karamazovy / The Brothers Karamazov [DVD NTSC][ENGLISH SUBTITLES][2009] (2009)
http://www.amazon.com/Karamazovy-Brothers-Karamazov-ENGLISH-SUBTITLES/dp/B002LC8LEC
To Juliania and others who disagreed with me whether Americans are “arrogant, stupid and fundamentally wrong,” I’ll partly concede the point that most Americans may be antiwar, fundamentally progressive in sentiment, etc… But I’d suggest they’re still so clueless about how to deal with the permanent aggression, brutality and corruption of their own government, and so totally unable to check or slow its insanity, that you can still call them arrogant, stupid and fundamentally wrong and not be too off-target.
Haven’t read all the comments yet. I don’t believe that Bill Clinton or others in high positions in the government all genuinely think that U.S. interests are benign. I’m not convinced they all believe they are doing something other than supporting the interests of a narrow elite. Really? When they smash countries to pieces and enforce economic policies that immiserate the population, do they really consider their policies benign? I don’t think so.
Whether the U.S. general public tends to think of U.S. foreign policy as benign (in intent if nothing else–“mistakes were made”) is another matter. That seems quite likely.
These commentators are certainly an improvement over the MSM norm, but they still seem to be staying within acceptable boundaries.
Re: Michael Collins said…
@kalithea said … Anonymous said … In my view,
I’m a citizen of the United States. I wanted to respond to what kalithea said as a means of adding something to the general discussion of differing ruling elites versus the people they rule.
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I can see only one sure way to shake up the entire system…do not vote…on anything–national, state, regional, or local. If this were done in mass, it would be something that couldn’t be ignored, and the legitimacy of these criminals would be put out in the open. I stopped voting over ten years ago. Alas, I can’t get anyone to do it, even though in conversations with them, they agree that we don’t have representative government, even at the local level.
José Saramago wrote a fictional account of what could happen if most of the public refused to vote. His book is titled: Seeing.
Here’s the Amazon description:
On election day in the capital, it is raining so hard that no one has bothered to come out to vote. The politicians are growing jittery. Should they reschedule the elections for another day? Around three o’clock, the rain finally stops. Promptly at four, voters rush to the polling stations, as if they had been ordered to appear.
But when the ballots are counted, more than 70 percent are blank. The citizens are rebellious. A state of emergency is declared. But are the authorities acting too precipitously? Or even blindly? The word evokes terrible memories of the plague of blindness that hit the city four years before, and of the one woman who kept her sight. Could she be behind the blank ballots? A police superintendent is put on the case.
What begins as a satire on governments and the sometimes dubious efficacy of the democratic system turns into something far more sinister. A singular novel from the author of Blindness.
Meezer
“according to left wing biased Washington Post.”
WP is zionazi. You just killed your credibility completely. :D
About the racist element against Obama, it’s there. I’ve heard it often. Go to any American small town in whitebread country and bring up Obama.
You’re just posting the sort of American rubbish that plays well of rightwing and zionist dittohead sites, like Freerepublic.
Regarding the apartment bombings: Berezovsky could have fixed that, via his connections in the Mossad, as a ‘favor’ to Putin, which Putin himself certainly couldn’t have prevented. At that time, Putin was stil Berezovsky’s ‘protege’, in the sense that B thought he had bought and owned Putin. If you recall, B also paid for ‘Jihadi’ attacks in Chechnya so that he could stage-manage Putin’s response, or try to do so. That is how these oligarchs think, and Putin was clever enough to stay noncommittal throughout this black comedy. A KGB officer should certainly know how to do that, especially a Lt-Col, which is the lowest general staff rank.
OT
Insurance policies pertaining to bankers’ suicides classified as containing ‘trade secrets’
http://rt.com/usa/155712-martens-policies-deaths-jpmorgan/
Banksters literally killing off employees and collecting life insurance on them. It’s not random murders, either, but people deemed a possible or real threat are the ones being bumped off by JP Morgan.
Incidentally, a similar wave of murders accompanied the S&L crash of 20+ years ago.
Thank you kindly for the Fursev transcript, ‘New Insight’. You must have a very vigorous team there. I’ve integrated it into one continuous, properly formatted piece of prose for my blog, and inserted a few comments, which you may or may not agree with, in various highlighted colours, here.
Wikispooks;
There’s now a transcript up at Youtube, in four parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLUJpqaQpY
Also, your comment on Marxist thought on the need for capitalism to ever-expand … was 100% spot-on, I think.
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I can’t help myself but wonder everytime someone states that the current economic system is capitalistic.
“A capitalist may wish to sell drinking water, but Mammon wants to poison all water in order to force everybody to buy drinking water.” (Israel Shamir)
I could spend ten years and use millions of words, but I would never be able to illustrate the difference between Capitalism and the current economic and financial system better than those few words above from Israel Shamir.
For years I’ve protested the labeling of the current economic system as capitalistic. Capitalism (as teached by the Austrian School and sistematically exposed by von Mises, teaching which has anyway a major flaw in the alleged neutrality of money – see my essay on Economic Goods and Money as a Good) is the only correct economic theory and is just a theory!
To have it in practice, you should have all men obeying at least the last half of God’s Decalogue (do not kill, do not steal, do not lie, do not covet, etc.). That’s not possible, as men are always free to make a moral choice; there’s no such a thing as an economic agent, you have always a moral agent!
The moment he chooses evil (and it’s inevitable if the only goal is his economic gain), the market ceases to be free and the foundation of capitalism collapses. Moreover, beyond a certain threshold accumulation of capital, if not widespread, becomes uneconomic for the system, not least because it makes the latter less and less free. You have just to look around to see empirical evidences of this.
In fact, the current economic system does not even pretend to be capitalistic. Its monetary foundations lay on so-called money called out of thin air, outside any economic process. The process is not even rational, as this money gets its value exclusively from the State’s guarantee but the State (i.e. the citizens) must pay to get it; it’s difficult to imagine something more idiotic and criminal!
Therefore, the nature entirely parasitical of the production of the most important economic good, whose property is given to a select few, who can so create at will claims immediately due on every goods, works and services for their exclusive advantage, deny ab initio any capitalistic pretension of the current economic system. The freedom of the markets and their acting people is destroyed to the root!
As an aside, it must be stressed that only in this case it’s correct to call usury the charging of interest, namely in the case of blatant usurpation of the monetary sovereignty, when so-called money is entirely loose from any economic process or work, i.e. entirely parasitical in its production and appropriation. It’s clear that when that production and appropriation comes from free and legitimate economic process and work, money is just another economic good, even if a special one, and every economic good can legitimately require its price.
continue
Beyond this, the freedom to undertake economic activity has become just a myth in modern western demonocracies (it’s not a refuse, that’s the only correct denomination for the current western political system). Today, to make just one example, in New York you need a dozen different permits to sell lemonade. Only big fishes, sanctioned by the High Parasite (the international banks’ gang), are free to bribe their way to “economic success”; the rest are allowed to swim as much as necessary to become adequate food for the Worm’s unquenchable hunger.
Not only! The responsibility for one’s own actions again apply only in case of petty malfeasance and never against a member or a vassal of the High Parasite, unless he pisses off the pot. Crime is the only thing that pays in the current western economic environment, but only big crime!
The only freedom that common people have is to scramble all day to get the privilege to scramble one day more.
Therefore, to sum it up, if it does not look like a duck, if it does not move like a duck, if it does not quack….. well, then IT’S NOT A DUCK!!!
The current economic system is not capitalistic, it’s a slavery system, and you must be extremely stupid if you wonder why its outcome is that one percent of people control ninety percent of riches!
“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
P.S. – A capitalist may wish to sell GMO for food, but Mammon wants a compliant politician to pass a law preventing people to know they are buying GMO for food (after people had made very clear that they want to know).
For the links, go here:
http://houseofmaedhros.wordpress.com/2014/04/10/the-difference/
Someone somewhere has written a manual that says putting a picture next to a screenname (Italian and Spanish are faves) gives you greater credibility when working as a disinformation blogger or troll. Regular people are actually way too frightened to put their own real picture even beside a fake name.
You need only look at their pictures to see that something is off or you can note the frequency with which these faces tend to resemble someone you’ve seen on Letterman or Kimmel or Stewart or Fallon or Meyers.
Gut Yontiff btw y’all.
In any case, some of the people who work alongside these much more upwardly mobile people must surely be genuinely decent and proud of their countries and also be resentful of their 2nd class status and perhaps willing to do something good for themselves and their loved ones and for all of humanity.
It is these decent people who signed up to do good only to be hijacked by lunatic gangsters who see them as expendable who are themselves in a position to sabotage plans to murder millions or billions of equally good and decent people because the aforementioned people are fricken INSANE.
My main concern is that most of the good people with a conscience have no idea what I’m talking about even though I’ve already said sabotage (twice now) while those who do understand have already converted and live in terrible fear of their in laws:(
But think carefully now and you might understand who this message is really meant for.
Schee?
BTW #2 — it is a very bad idea for you to linger on this message.
@Mindfriedo
Thanks for that response. We may not take responsibility but we will all bear responsibility for the outcome of our actions; more likely, inaction.
The mood here is not so much based on no money. It has more to do with ‘What the heck are we doing over there?’ I’ve been a not in my name person for a while. The majority isn’t there yet. In the mean time, minding our own business is progress.
The real tragedy is that the global oligarchs are fiddling around while we move full force toward predictable global catastrophes. 2020 is dooms day for the southern half of Indonesia in terms of climate variability. The complex eco systems will start collapsing. And there will be more, on and on. That’s an immense problem. What difference will all of this make when we lose regional habitats collapse and become cauldrons of disease.
I’m of the opinion that any world leaders who fail to emphasize this point regularly are guilty of gross negligence. It is truly unforgivable.
And leaders like Obama and Kerry, who know well the perils we face, are guilty of the worst type of nihilism by wasting everybody’s time and the ongoing tragedies by ‘surrounding Russia.’ What is their major malfunction?
Yesterday I watched Andrei Fursov’s talk. I really like the breadth and depth of his knowledge; I learned a lot from his talk and as a result of that, I’ve started looking differently at post-1989 history.
There’s this one thing nagging at me though: his comments around the Fifth Column and how the media ought to be curtailed and placed under strict state control. I understand where he’s coming from: it’s enough to look around in the US and Europe to see the demential influence of the mass media. People have become sheeple, listening to the echo chamber that we call the free press, with tv personalities regurgitating sound bites and journalists cowering to power.
But. The internet. The Vineyard would not be possible in Fursov’s world; by definition, the Saker’s site would be considered subversive because he stimulates independent thought. Independent from whatever power structure, including that of the state. Abby Martin, the RT presenter who criticised Russia for their foreign politics in March, explained in an interview on Buzzsaw with Sean Stone that by being morally consistent, not pro one or anti the other, she focuses on the injustice, not in whose name it is being perpetrated. I’m afraid that such a stance would not jive with Fursov’s sensitivities.
I don’t like that. I would not want to live in Fursov’s world.
Thanks, Where-Wolf. Will order.
@New Insight
I prepared a text file based on your comments in the Fursov video. Mostly I just added punctuation changes. I don’t want to download it to Wikispooks, which someone else suggested, since you may not like the way I changed things. But if you want I will, or I can email or download the file somewhere else.
Pardon me. I forgot to include link to full interview.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/frank-walter-steinmeier-talks-about-the-ukraine-crisis-and-russia-a-966493.html
Note: http://www.spiegel.de/international/ will bring up contents of English edition including, this week, a commentary on Schröder’s birthday party.
Nora asked: Do you take Steinmeier at face value, or think he’s being slippery and sly with that OSCE Trojan Horse? I kind of thought he was being a good guy…
I’ve been trying to confirm a rumour from early March that Steinmeier and Merkel had undertaken both to read Margaret MacMillan’s The War That Ended Peace. In any case I think he is aware of the past and cares what place he will have in history. During his first stint as FM he worked for a policy of improved cooperation with Russia rather than isolation.
I would argue that Steinmeier’s words attain gravity merely by virtue of their being spoken. Which other FM or head of a NATO state has used this language? Steinmeyer is one of the few still practising diplomacy on this file. That’s why I’m arguing — with all of my strength — that the OSCE should get the chance to fulfill its mission as part of the Geneva Agreement. He is pleading for Putin to keep a level head in a dangerous situation or possibly to give us “something we can work with” as to de-escalation.
Steinmeyer returned to his old post in December 2013 after several years as opposition leader. Imagine his dismay as he was handed the amateurish Kiev file. For Steinmeier the OSCE’s handler’s might be the Trojan Horse- full of people who record his phone calls and try to undo his earlier efforts to forge bonds to make sure war in Europe is more difficult to embark on.
I’ll bet he could use a little love these days along the lines of his predecessors’ letter to Putin with it’s gift of courage and wisdom. Whatever is in his mind I trust he can share it with his wife with whom he has a unique relationship.
http://www.dw.de/opposition-leader-steinmeier-recovering-after-donating-kidney-to-wife/a-5942074
or this for picture with wife Elke
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/bild-713314-123035.html
Brian
@New Insight, that was a fascinating talk. Thanks for the link.
Ipak, što se točno desilo jučer na Maidanu ostaje misterija. Do sada imamo najmanje četiri verzije jučerašnjeg događaja. Po pitanju identiteta “radikala pod bakljama” ove teorije su do sada ponuđene:
1) Oni su pripadnici desničarske organizacije Socijal-Nacionalno Vijeće
2) Oni su pripadnici Desnog Sektora
3) Oni su “proizvod” ruskih službi
4) Oni su pripadnici nacionalističke organizacije Ukrajinski Patrioti
http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/veliki-i-misteriozni-sukob-na-maidanu-sukobili-se-pripadnici-obrane-maidana-i-maskirani-radikalni-desnicari-oko-cijeg-identiteta-se-izvjestaji-zestoko-spore/
@ were-wolf: “Before any of this can be done we have to understand who we are and who are our opponents and pick our targets accordingly.”
Then stop talking about such stupid nonsense like the non-existent “Canadian politics” or the non-existent presidential “elections” in the USA.
Canadian politics are the politics of the british empire, because it is a part of it and subordinated to the queen as the highest authority. She also literally owns the land too and collects all the land taxes.
As for the US, there are no elections there, none, nada, zilch. The president is being CHOSEN by the Electoral College and only by them and there is no way in hell that any american citizen could have any say about it whatsoever.
Now go re-read your sentence above and try to walk the talk too instead of parroting some irrelevant nonsense.
Summary from: https://twitter.com/spainbuca
As of 4/29/2014
What I said two days ago about the plan to get rid of Timoshenko’s extremist group is starting to happen: break-up of the maidan.
Good thing about it is that once the fear subsides in Kiev, a lot of pro-Russians will emerge out of all this. They exist.
The plan also includes getting rid of the Minister of the Interior, who is following orders from Timoshenko.
Timoshenko knows she has become a nuisance to everyone and that they want to get rid of her, and she is trying to win the support of the poeple in the street, but people now are saying no.
Challenge and warning on the phone from the military command to the Minister of the Interior: Watch out what you do, lest we intervene.
Minister of Defense will endorse what the military decide to do even if it goes against the Minister of the Interior.
Ukrainian Minister of Defense is on the phone right now with Russian Minister of Defense.
Ukrainian Minister of Defense is willing to continue negotiating with Russia and abide by what they agree to do.
The Minister of the Interior suggested earlier today that, if elections are held in May, they should not be held in the entire country. [Such are the] delusions of those who have already lost.
The Minister of Defense asks the Minister of the Interior to dismantle the office of the private military in the next few days.
[that would mean mainly the American mercenaries]
Some members of the Kiev police command have bolted [resigned?], the Minister of the Interior begins to be isolated.
Perhaps I´m too optimistic, but to mee it seems the battle has been won!
All means Kiev did have are now exhausted:
-The military was sent, but they refused or even changed sides
-Armed special forces were sent, but were beaten at the first checkpoints
(No artillery could be used, or they would have been wiped out by the Russian air force)
-Pravy sector militia were bussed into Donetsk, but were beaten by local defense forces (which have grown considerably in strength now, due to fired police!)
-Europe will not do much more than token sanctions
-Different fractions from the Maidan are having street battles in Kiev
What will the south do? And will there be a lasting distance between the US and Europe? If so, Putin will be truly victorious, and might end up as ´Putin the great´ in history books.
@ Unknown,
Q: Daniel Rich,
wrong again, wise people see everything from lots of perspectives.
R: Which is every time a different perspective. Thank you for making my point.
Mulga Mumblebrain said on 30 April, 2014 01:52…
Anonymous at 18.52, the Syrian jihadist butchers enjoy the excellent medical treatment available in Israel, too (human organ transplants are a bargain). Then they are sent back to the fray with $1,000 to pay for hors d’oeuvre, before the main course of human flesh.
You have a very nice sense of humor and you put it very excellently too!
With respect and regards,
Mohamed.
Further to New Insight and JC above.
I’ve posted the English text to Wikispooks
It is a first-pass and requires more formatting work. I’ve added headings and sub-heading for readability and citation purposes. No doubt both grammar and presentation could be improved and people are welcome to help with that if so inclined. As with ALL wiki pages, there is also a discussion page.
Meezer,
I don’t know where to start. You’ve never heard of the One Drop Rule, have you. Or been around genuine racists, apparently. But let me try to unpack this, using facts. Race in this country is a sociological construct, not a biological one since, as you noted, a vastly underacknowledged number of us have ancestors of varying hues. That would include, btw, a very large number of people of color whose grandparents would never have dared take a seat in the front of the bus despite having, say, three lily-white European grandparents. Secondly, MSNBC “propagandists”? Really? You honestly believe that commercial was an MSNBC-Obama-General Mills-ad agency conspiracy? No point trying to convince you otherwise but dear, that is really off the deep end. I’d like to see facts on that, not allegations or, you know, opinions. Oh, Volokh. Got it. Wait — he’s left-wing??? And writes in a left-wing rag? That would be a big surprise to Fred Hiatt, or, you know, the last couple generations of Wa-Po owners. Now, I’m never going to say the Left is devoid of racism. It’s not. But a 1% difference does not generally reach statistical significance — and in fact, that is precisely what Volokh said. You might want to re-read it. But what has me most dumbfounded of all is that you somehow take me, who you correctly see as a Leftist, as an Obama supporter!
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/03/end-of-era-for-west.html
@Michael Collins
The real tragedy…cauldron of disease
Really scary. Want to be like an ostrich and sink my head in the sand. I think of the same thing happening in a lot of places. And once resources are exhausted, thugs like the ones we see in the Ukraine and Syria will grow stronger everywhere.
Yes it’s more apathy than greed. Less vicious but still selfish. Progress none the less.
Mindfriedo
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sigh. Thank you, I guess. I appreciate the information and would like to apologise for my country. I just wish I could figure out how to change its behavior.
Mindfriedo, Michael Collins
I really agree quite strongly with both of you. I guess what’s standing out the most to me is all money and effort spent trying to keep us ignorant and divided, and where I’m really stuck is what we can do to counter it.
Andreas Walsh,
I typed the above sentence before reading your comment and realize that, yes, even those of us who do see what’s going on are “clueless about how to deal with the permanent aggression, brutality and corruption of their own government, and so totally unable to check or slow its insanity”. It’s much easier for us to snipe at “the other side” than figure out how to extract ourselves from the curse of Neo-Liberalism, Exceptionalism and the rest of the litany. And I’m not going to make any excuses — even those of us who kind-of-got it were all too busy doing other things. So I’m not being snide here, I really am looking for answers, or at least suggestions. Running for even a state representative requires making nice-nice with either local Dems or Re-thugs, and lots of money. Staying in office requires even more and usually entails compromises with both one’s party leaders and the various corporations just wanting… whatever. And frankly, just about every one of our state and federal elected officials should be replaced. But how? I’m not using it as a cop-out, I’m really trying to figure out what we can do, but I’m also feeling very, very trapped, and seeking advice everywhere I can.
FWIW, I’m in full agreement with Brian J’s comments above – 08:26.
Here is another German politician with a commendably balanced view of things too – Gregor Gysi.
He begins with some ‘anti-Putin’ obeisances to orthodoxy – necessary to get any kind of hearing in the west I’m afraid – but he gets better quickly and provides the Bundestag with a few unwelcome and uncomfortable home-truths. Merkel squirms and the assembled center-right members maintain a stoney-faced silence – but some solid applause from the left.
I sense a deep and disturbing sense of deja-vu informing Germans with any understanding of real (as opposed to victor’s) history, and hope that such understanding may be gaining ground.
Re: Rowan Berkeley said…
Thank you kindly for the Fursev transcript, ‘New Insight’. You must have a very vigorous team there. I’ve integrated it into one continuous, properly formatted piece of prose for my blog, and inserted a few comments, which you may or may not agree with, in various highlighted colours, here.
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I was married to a woman from Argentina. I’ve been there many times over the years. My father-in-law in the ’90s mentioned one town in Paraguay that is nicknamed “Little Arabia” or something like that. It is almost entirely made up of immigrants from the Middle East. My father-in-law mentioned that he had heard that if was crawling with ME terror organizations. It’s also known to be a dangerous place to visit, so Fursov’s statement on Middle Easterners in Paraguay is accurate.
As far as the volcano in Yellowstone, that, too, is an accurate statement. This is what Secretary of Defense Cohen said in a Q & A session at a conference on terrorism in 1997.
“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.” – William S. Cohen, U.S. Secretary of Defense
Is there a kind of weapon that could do this kind of thing? You need to read the research of Dr. Judy Wood on what really happened on 9/11. She has published the results of her forensic study of the WTC site. It wasn’t just buildings 1 & 2 that were demolished, nor the Alex Joneses screeching on building 7. It was ALL 7 WTC buildings that were destroyed. How? With an invisible directed energy weapon (DEW), just what Cohen was claiming the “others” are supposed to have, aka known in psychology terms as projection.
If you are a reader, I recommend getting her book “Where Did The Towers Go?” here.
http://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com
This is her website: http://www.drjudywood.com
At the top of her website, if you aren’t a reader, she has posted her presentation on the WTC event and free energy at the Breakthrough Energy Movement conference in 2012 in Holland.
While this video presentation is good, it in no way contains the complete evidence and verifiable proof that her book presents. I’ve followed her research for many years, and it is so highly credible that it is sufficient for a court case, which she did, going all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. No one in the fake “truth movement” has ever done this. Why she’s still alive is a mystery. People like this usually get “accidented.”I can’t speak to the other statements that you’ve highlighted as BS, but these two that you are calling disinfo are factual.
As for Veteran’s Today and anything they post, two attackers of Dr. Wood’s work are regulars there–Jim Fetzer and Kevin Barrett. Both are disinformation agents, and if you read Andrew Johnson’s book, you will see them being exposed for just what they are.
Website: http://www.checktheevidence.com
Book available for free as an e-book or paperback at cost at Lulu here:
http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-johnson/9-11-finding-the-truth/paperback/product-16341476.html;jsessionid=4ACC5EED252E104B61FD4F970D8AB2F5
News out of Kiev.
Riots on the Maidan, Kiev. 4/29/2014
Massive Brawl on Kiev’s Maidan
City of Kiev announces military maneuvers in Kiev.
Translation, Kiev City Administration
But banner on RT states “Ukraine’s Defense Ministry website say no military drills planned in Kiev.
Judy Wood again, the towers were demolished by unspecified ‘energy beams’ from orbital weapons platforms of unspecified ownership, very bright, thank you very much for that nonsense.